The Sloppy Boys - 15. Golden Dream

Episode Date: January 29, 2021

The guys discover a Miami-born digestif that "tastes like creamsicles."GOLDEN DREAM RECIPE.67oz/20ml Orange Juice .67oz/20ml Triple Sec.67oz/20ml Galliano.33oz/10ml Fresh CreamPour all ingredients into shaker filled with ice. Shake briskly for few seconds. Strain into chilled cocktail glass.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Michael Hanford. Hi Jeff. Hello Mike. And Timothy Kalpakis. What is up? Not much, dude. And we're your host the sloppy boys oh

yeah oh yeah oh yeah we have got it's gonna get a little nutty here on this show i can i'm calling it now this is a weird wild wet one it's gonna be kind of a mess, I think. Yeah, you at home clicked on this one thinking, golden dream? There's no drink I've ever heard of. What is that? I'm sure it's very nice and polite. No, it's going to be fucking crazy. This one's rude and crude. Dude, we started a podcast thinking, cocktail podcast, what?

It's a bunch of Bloody Marys all the time that'll be easy oh what every week we drink another tomatoey vodka concoction sure maybe there might be a schnapps here or there but not this time yeah i mean i guess there will be the odd liquor ice will be present most undoubtedly but this is where we get really put to the test because the listeners they're thinking these guys are going to buckle under the pressure of doing a cocktail that maybe some listeners have heard of the golden dream but i have not heard of it jeff mike we haven't heard of this shit No We might be making a mocktail of this cocktail Is what some people are saying

Yes Which would be to mock it A mockery of this cocktail lockery Sure I follow Jeff, that makes one of us, come on I once saw a movie called It Follows Anyway, continue, Jeff.

I got nothing. Hey, let's get into a little doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo I found some. I had to dig. I had to dig on this. You're a muckraker. God, I just picked up my phone to get to the article where I read about this. And I get this message on my phone, something went wrong. What is that all about? In the world? Was it a news alert? No, it just came up.

Yeah. It just came up and said something went wrong. And I could click OK or retry. I clicked OK. I like when computers are informal. Yeah. just came up and said something went wrong and i could click okay or retry i clicked okay i like when computers are informal yeah when they're like how how long will this take on the status bar and it's like a couple minutes yeah or when somebody calls you and it's like maybe my camper i like that but i tell you what what i don't like is when an app is when like grub hub is like you just made pizza happen in your underwear by the way well look i like when pizza happens i like when i make pizza happen sure i love but i would like

that i agree i would like that to be more formal uh mr hanford you have um made eight slices of a cheesy pie. Will it be round? You know it. Well, it will be round at first, but then when you select individual parts, well, those will be triangles. I don't like when I buy something with my credit card or debit card and the little thing comes up on the window

that's like, amount is $33.84. Amount okay? It's like, it's not33.84. Amount okay? It's like, it's not okay. I'd rather be zero, but amount is fine for now. I understand that's the price. I don't like it when I'm checking my balance on my bank account, and that amount is like zero or something like that. I'm like, let's get some higher numbers in there for once.

Right, this amount is not okay i called my banker i said you got a lot of gall buddy you think that i you think that makes me happy to check my balance and see a big goose egg yeah how do you think that makes me feel you you talk to me about that you're the one on the bitty baby's ety all day long. Mike, remember the one time in my life I did go sit down and talk to a banker. You happened to be in the bank and you saw the back of my hand and I was like talking to a, I was talking to a financial planner and you were like, Tim, Mr. Big Moneybags. I was worried for you. I was like, is Tim need a loan? I got to help him out.

Yeah, I was meeting, I was pitching that guy some of my comedy ideas. It's like, you got to get in on the ground floor of this. This bank needs more money. Guys, guys. This place is falling apart. Guys, booze news is falling apart. What's the news? Let's get back into do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Okay, so I read an article in, and you're going to all think me some elite, elitist. Sure. But I was reading the New York Times, okay? Oh, Mike. Okay. Yes, I read the New York Times. This is where I get some of my news. Some of my news.

The failing New York Times? No. Hey, watch yourself. That's a thing of the news. Some of my news. The failing New York Times? No. Hey, watch yourself. That's a thing of the past. Okay. And I was reading a fun little article about our favorite liquor. Not our favorite liquor.

A liquor that we've heard of. Chartreuse. You guys ever had Chartreuse? I'm aware that it exists. Is it raspberry liqueur? There's a couple different ones. I think- No, I'm thinking of Chambord.

Sorry, Mike. Go on. Chartreuse. It's got a couple different flavors. No, I'm thinking of Chambord. Sorry, Mike. Go on. Chartreuse. It's got a couple different flavors. Sometimes it's green. It usually has like a nice color to it. Kind of a rainbow-y color. Anyway, it is made in the Chartreuse Mountains of France by a bunch of, get this, monks.

Okay? Tony Chalut? Hey, have you checked out my episode, by the way? No. I've been avoiding it. Oh, okay. It keeps being suggested and you look the other way? I'll do it.

I've watched pretty much every other episode of the series. And then when I get to that one, I try to skip it. And then Netflix is pushing me back. Don't forget. Well, anyway, the Carthusian monks. and these are monks from what I read in this article, God, I'm such a nerd, that are the real like, when you think of monks, they like pray all day, they don't talk, they eat very little, that type of thing. Well, they also make this liqueur and the people who know the recipe for it are just two of them know the full recipe

you know what that reminds me of okay okay mr birthday boys it is one of those things where it's these two monks they've been doing this thing since like i think the 1600s maybe 1700s perfected the recipe for what it is now it's a lot of herbs a bunch of herbs that you can find in France, I'm sure. And these two guys every day get in the same car and drive down to the Chartreuse factory. And apparently it's up on these big hills in a little tiny car that they don't drive well.

It's dangerous. If these two guys go down, goodbye Chartreuse lovers. Wouldn't the whole point of there being two people knowing it, the whole point is don't drive together cars separate cars exactly but then you got to think how many cars do you think the monks the carthesian monks have zero so that's my booze news for the day that's more of a hey you ever wonder what uh you ever wonder what's going on over there? Yeah, I do have a lot of those moments where I'm like,

what is happening in an area that I'm not at? That might be the first world booze news. Yeah, this is the first chartreuse news that we had. Look, booze news does not need the competition. We can't have chartreuse news coming in here. I'm going to come back to our next podcast can't have chartreuse news coming in here. I'm going to come back to next podcast with some new chartreuse news. I'll see what I can dig up.

Better be good. Yeah, man. The onus is on you. It might be flat out bullshit. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Wrap it up. You guys want to talk about today's featured cocktail?

Yeah. Yes. Well. Tim, I don't want to talk about it. I want to drink the fucking thing. Mike. Yeah, and I poured that in my throat. Hey, Jeff.

You knew what you were getting into when you started a podcast with two fucking party animals. That's true. You guys are likely to drink the drinks. Today, to quote Will Smith, welcome to Miami. We are going to Miami because the golden

dream is today's cocktail and I've never heard of it. Y'all ever heard of it? No. Never heard of it. Clean slate. This is great. We're like a focus group test audience for this thing. Finally, a fresh start.

I can shed all my previous misconceptions. We've been bringing so much baggage to all these goddamn drinks. It's nice to just be an empty vessel. The Golden Dream, it's from Miami. It originated at the Old King Bar in the 60s and was popular in the 60s and 70s. It was invented, originally mixed by Raymundo Alvarez, the bartender at the Old King Bar. And this is an after dinner drink, guys. Remember when we did the brandy Alexander?

Oh, Tim, I haven't eaten yet. Could you cram some gram or something? Oh, guys. Remember when we did the brandy Alexander? Oh, Tim, I haven't eaten yet. Could you cram some gram or something? Oh, fine. Mike, have you dined? I had a bowl of penne with tomato sauce on top of it, so I'm good. Okay, so penne, we're talking about a

short tubular noodle with pointy ends. Short tubular, a little pointy on the ends, a short tubular noodle with pointy ends. Short tubular, a little pointy on the ends. Not a big deal. Not pointy that it's going to hurt you. No, it's going to hurt. Perfect. Perfect.

I was reading up on this cocktail and it said, broadly, they say it's an after dinner drink, but they say like, ideally, it's something that you drink after a soft-ended pasta meal. That's perfect. Well, did they say that it's a sharp-ended pasta before it goes into the boiling water? Right. They did say that before the boil, that's a whole different story. You got penny, my man. Go ahead.

Well, it's an after-dinner drink like that, the Brandy Alexander we had that tasted like milkshakes. It's because it's an after dinner drink like that the brandy alexander we had that tasted like milkshakes it's because it's it's sort of like almost a dessert you're having this instead of dessert uh so you don't we're not going to taste it and say too sweet because we're going to know it's a deserty kind of an affair but um apparently it was at some point, I guess they dedicated this drink to actress Joan Crawford. Hey. And it was very popular on the East Coast. Cindy's mom? Yeah.

It's got to be. Wait, Joan Crawford, am I picturing the right lady or am I picturing Joan Collins? Oh, you're picturing the right one. You're probably picturing a Tom Collins, you freaking lush. Oh, come on. I'm in a mood tonight. I'm calling everybody. I'm picking on everybody.

You're kind of, I guess, a roast master. Yeah, roast master general. But isn't your thing that you roast the ones you love? Yeah, that is my thing. That's my thing. You guys want to hear what's in this cocktail wait now this is so this is a pretty simple story it's just like this is what it is this is where it happened that's the story man it's one of the few cocktails i love that i i i poked around and i read the whole internet articles any article i could find about any topic i read it

just on the off chance there might be a mention of a golden dream um and it's there's no debate there's not a fight there's not that shit that we always see where it's like well actually in london they have this similar one um this is just a drink that sits back and says you know you guys fight on cuba libre or rum and coke you fight about where the brandy Alexander was made I'm just here being orange yeah this is one of these drinks is like what do you got some kind of podcast you and a couple of your bros are gonna sort of have a band that then becomes podcasts throw down yeah it's it's just it's not debated it's straightforward this man invented it at this place on this year it got very popular over there so so uh you know we're talking florida we're

talking about a place where a lot of new yorkers go down on vacation in the winter you know we're talking about a lot of uh wealthy traveling types partying it up in the wonderful miami area and this is into that lifestyle a little bit i know you got to get down there more let me in there wealthy traveler partying all the time i'd like to do that yeah because as of this point you're kind of a stationary pauper this will sound even more miami-ish when I start telling you some of the ingredients, because, dudes, we got 20 milliliters of fresh orange juice. It's like four teaspoons, a little more than a half ounce of fresh orange juice. That makes sense.

OJ. Look, easy to get. We all know what that is. Go down to Florida, walk into a grove, grab one of those yellowish spheres. Yellow-ish? Ish. Not yellow. Yellow-ish.

Dark, dark, dark yellow. Dark. The darkest red yellow that you can find. Almost like mix red and yellow together. And then in the same measurement, the equal parts OJ triple sec, that orange liqueur we've learned about. Another one that I know.

Ideally, Quantro, if you have got it, but you can use off-brand triple sec. And then also 20 millimeters. Millimeters? Am I talking links? No, you got to pour it on the table and measure it. Yeah. Freeze it and measure it. Okay, Tim.

I'm actually really sorry about that, Snafu. That's all right. Of Galeano, an Italian. Oh, Tim, Tim, sorry, what? I've never heard of this one. 20 milliliters of Galeano. It is an Italian liqueur that we have

not had. And this is, to me, this is why I wanted to do this podcast. Because I want to learn about all the little weirdies that are behind the guy at the liquor store that are sticky. And nobody buys them. But I want to be the guy that says, can I have a bottle of Galeano?

Tim, surely this is a type of liquor that comes in a traditionally shaped bottle. Let me ask you, when you say traditionally shaped bottle, I hope to God you're picturing a weird, extra tall, pointy bottle that's a weird cylinder and you don't see it on other bottles ever? I was picturing something that looks like a long shoe. Well, that's on you. That's...

That's weird. Those are kind of the only bottles I've ever come across. No, this is a big golden spike. Yeah, it's a big tall prong. And it is an electric yellow. Let's face it, it can look like a whiz yeah i'm not gonna beat around the bush a whiz a whiz it's got star anise juniper berry

musk peppermint it's like one of these weirds i'm excited to taste this one because i have a hunch it'll like all of these fucking things it'll probably just taste like black licorice but um you know the internet seems to think it's a very um complex taste that can't be put into words right um what so what's a what's a substitute for that because i was reading that like it's supposed to have a little bit of a of a vanilla taste to it but then uh mostly i'm seeing licorice yeah there's all these liqueurs when when mixed with uh juices can have a vanilla kind of a vibe they said if you don't um have galliano maybe some sambuca would do the trick um uh herb herb saint what was another one herb saint herb saint but you know like i have a feeling i'm gonna like this drink because i like orange julius's and

i can see where this is going yes the so the final ingredient here is 10 mil uh milliliters of fresh cream two teaspoons of fresh cream so that's a, right? Is what it feels like we're getting at. Yeah, baby. And you, you pour it all into a shaker filled with ice shake briskly for a few seconds, strain into chilled cocktail glass, no garnish. Love it. Nice try. Get the wedges and the cherries off of there. I wouldn't dream of it. Not one little leaf, Jay. See, it's funny that the Brandy Alexander tastes like milkshakes and it's a dessert drink and the Golden Dream tastes like creamsicles. It's another deserty treat. Maybe that's why it's after dinner. When are you usually eating cookies and cakes? Well, I've already had my

dinner as when. Yes, I'm about to take my slumber but not quite yet. You know what is a very popular cocktail that I didn't know about until we started this podcast? I've seen it a lot on cocktail websites. It's the Harvey Wallbanger. We will get to that eventually. And I'm excited to because I've never tried one. But that was the sort of yuppie fern bar cocktail.

That's a kicked up screwdriver that's got some of this Galliano in it. But then this one, you know, adds cream. So I think that'll taste like a little bit of a little bit of an Orange Julius. This one is a got to be a full on creamsicle. You shake it up, shake it real nice and brisk so that you get a fribble action going on. I love it. But, Tim, I bring up the – well, I guess you answered it with the substitutes for Galliano. But if people don't have access to Galliano, I'm going to bet they don't have Sambuca lying around. I'm thinking about the real slophead, the poor college kid who's trying to make cocktails out of Milwaukee's best.

Do they have Herb Saint? Yeah, maybe they have Herb Saint. Herb Saint, Sambuca. These are all very licorice-y. Maybe a Jaeger could pop in there? It could be a Jaeger. It could be absinthe. Lord knows I've got a lot of absinthe

left over from the zombie. Or maybe we're going to taste Galliano and then we're going to be like, hey, we love Galliano and that's our whole thing. And from now on, we're not looking for substitutes. Maybe I'm going into a bar

getting a pint of Galliano on the rocks all the time. Right. Oh, one more thing about substitutes before we go mix it up guys tim you said triple sec ideally quantro yeah now quantro i i bought triple sec because um i'm getting low on my quantro and uh i got the bottom of the bottom shelf uh triple sec that you see at bars that it's like written it It's like in white impact font or whatever.

Yeah. And it's just like a picture of a cartoon orange on it. Yeah. It's like triple sec. That stuff is 30 proof. Whereas Quantro is a full on 80 proof. Oh, Quantro is 80 proof.

Yeah. And it's, and it's stings, man. Like I, would you believe I taste tested them back and forth? I believe it. That's shocking. I was like, why does Quantro like sting? Oh, man. Yikes. Would you believe I taste tested them back and forth? I believe it. That's shocking.

I was like, why does Cointreau sting? Oh, it's 80 proof. I love Cointreau, and it's so sweet that I assumed that it was more diluted. But damn, that'll throw your numbers off. So I guess, folks, the IBA just said triple sec. I saw other recipes elsewhere that were touting Cointreau. But let's be honest. If you're listening to this podcast, you're not looking to say, hey, what's the fanciest version of the drink to make?

Buy yourself a bottle of triple sec. Use it in your margaritas, right? Use it. Use it or lose it. Use it or lose it. Use it in your Cosmos if you want. use it or lose it use it or lose it in your cosmos if you want again we've mentioned this like you could kind of put the bottle the nozzle of the bottle up your butt and you could do a handstand and then they'll go good good good good use it that way you could use it that way good way

to burn your buns but go for it this is one of these weird cocktails we talked about this before isn't it weird when you're putting triple sec into oj you're like that's the real thing why do i have to have this orangey thing added to this orange thing yeah i'm guessing it's some sort of corporate conspiracy where there's the quantro triple sec people run to own a bunch of orange groves let's get the money as much as we can be in this retired of miami go ahead tim what do you back door dealings everybody's connected everybody's doing favors for other people guys hate that shit well shall we mix yeah baby yes all right folks we'll be right back golden dreams in hand. Peace out. Hey folks, we want to pump the brakes on this episode and talk about a great podcast called Bizarre Albums

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This looks good to me. Mine's frothy. Me too. It should be called the frothy dream. Yeah. Did we each get a little funny little glasses? Tim, you got a little champagne in there? I've got a coupe glass.

I got my Illumino. This is, yeah, when I was making it, I was like, like oh it looks like nutmeg should go on the top of this is because it looks like uh brandy alexander an eggnog oh yeah yeah yeah and a brandy alexander right right right uh i didn't use well let's do first sips and then we'll talk oh baby that's good i love it when tim when you said out the gate you were like this one's a sweet one i was like sweet drinks do very well on this podcast we don't we don't deal well with like the stinky rise and stuff yeah we can't handle the rye but yeah geez the rye made us all puke that one time after the Manhattans, right? Oh, you mean the technical or

yawn? Oh, that's right. Perhaps it's good that I warned us about it being sweet because this actually isn't that sweet. It's not as sweet as the Brandy Alexander. It's not, and I'll tell you what, that licorice

taste, I mean, that's Jagermeister. Yes. You could definitely switch that out. I do taste the vanilla more, though, now that it's in there, because I tasted it alone. What is it called? Galliano. Galliano, yeah. And I didn't like the star anise quality of it.

But now in the drink. And I didn't like the star anise quality of it. But now in the drink, I had a little conniption. Some might say a hissy fit in my kitchen just now when I tasted it. And I was like, I know I've ranted about this before. I think I read about this on the Doughboys podcast. But why do we need so many things that taste like black licorice? And I know that there's a lot of different herbs and herb combinations to make it. black licorice and i know that there's a lot of different herbs and herb combinations to make it but i already have fucking expensive absinthe in my bar that i'm not getting through and then i

just added an expensive bottle of this and uzo and sambuca and blah blah blah that's it when i when i took the sip of just the galliano i was like this is black licorice shit. But in the context of the drink, I agree. I'm getting a vanilla-y, creamsicle dream, a golden dream blown up from the winds of Florida. Do you regret the hissy fit now, Tim? Do you take it all back? Yeah. And my neighbors saw, and, you know, it was a whole fucking thing. I'll tell you about the Galliano

I went to four different liquor stores in my neighborhood none of them had it some people didn't even know where it was but one guy was really like yeah this guy was dialed in man and he was like let me just check this out what it did was his database

and he knew what it was. He gave me the, he said Sambuca or Herb Saint. You could try that. He's like, but I don't have those. He didn't have Sambuca? No, this guy, he didn't have Sambuca. He didn't know what he was talking about. No, he was actually very nice.

He thought he was dialed in. And I hope he's listening. I should have told him, I should go around to the liquor stores and be like, hey, listen to my podcast. Anyway. You should. I found Sambuca somewhere, so I got Sambuc. That's nice. Did you try the Sambuca by itself and did it taste like black licorice? I didn't. I didn't because I didn't want to give any

tip off to what I was going to taste. I love that when a liquor store cashier is into it and wants to help. I go to Cap and Cork here in Los Feliz and they're great. If they don't have anything, something, they Google it and they try to figure out what would be similar. If they have to order it, they offer to order. They're interested and they like what they're doing. I even had, not even the cash register guy, but also

a woman shopping there as well. She was like, what are you looking for? And I said, Galeano. And all the three of us were putting our heads together. Hmm. I could see that being a show that you pitch. The three New York jag-offs. Tim, Tim, Tim, don't talk about

my friends that way. With shit for brains. Do not talk about my friends that way. They're for brains. Do not talk about my friends that way. They're actually, I had them, invited them here for the podcast recording. This drink is fucking, this drink is flowing down my throat. I am almost finished with it. And I made it big. I didn't want to mess around trying to measure out 20 milliliters. So I just did ounce, ounce, ounce, half ounce.

So mine was a bigger one. I did two ounce ounce half ounce so mine was a bigger one i did two ounce two ounce one ounce you know what jeff we're gonna have to use podcast funds to buy you a new liver yeah it'd be great actually um this is yeah i i i would i would be willing to i'd be willing to put a little more orange juice in it and just give it a little more orangey taste so it's a little more dessert-y. The way I made it, it's a little too licorice-forward. Mike, we all know that you're an OJ fiend

and you're just finding any way that you can get more of your beloved juice. No, Tim, I'm way past that part of my life. OJ is fine. I don't need it. I don't crave it. But in this instance, I'm way past that part of my life. OJ is fine. I don't need it. I don't crave it. But in this instance, I think it could really help. I want you to honor the ratio that was decided upon by Raymundo Alvarez at the Old King Bar in Miami in the 1960s.

Alvarez, you know, this guy, he's down in Miami, what, what, what, 50, 60 years ago? I don't know this guy. I'm going to drink my drink the way I want to. Okay. Shut up! know this guy he's down in miami what what what 50 60 years ago i don't know this guy i'm gonna drink my drink the way i want to and he can shut up mike i like your attitude dude thanks man i think i'm i'm getting all this confidence from this drink i finished mine this thing rolled right down the the esophagus it didn't it didn't even bother with the epiglottis it just jumped right down into

the lungs for a little bit and then it said no wrong way let's go back you drink one of these things you fill it up to the top you're not careful it's going to go down the front of your shirt yeah for me it went straight down to the bottom of the bladder yeah didn't even touch the intestinal walls we're straight to the glons um wait a second before we took our our first sips, Jeff, there was something that we were talking about. Then you said, wait till after first sips. Oh, it's riveting stuff. I didn't use cream. I used half and half.

Boom. I use thick whipping cream. Yeah. Heavy whip. Heavy whip. I can't seem to find cream that just says cream. It's all heavy whipping cream. That's cream though. I just assume that's it cream that just says cream. It's all heavy whipping cream. That's cream, though.

I just assume that's it. That's the cream. Well, as we learned in our white Russian episode, the dude in Big Lebowski sometimes uses half and half in his Russians, which means I think we can swap it in for cream. Everything's fine. We also learned that the dude always, always abides. What about OJ?

Do you guys use good OJ? Because our recipe said fresh OJ, I didn't get fancy fresh squeezed. IBA always says fresh. I at least got the good Tropicana Pure Premium as opposed to usually with these IBA cocktails. Sometimes it's fun to use the shitty stuff and taste. Yeah, I did the same thing. I went the shitty route to get the

taste of the other stuff. How shitty? Oh, somebody had thrown an orange peel into a garbage can and I picked that up and dunked it in my drink. I've got a foam of cream left over my glass and I'm licking it. Folks, you're missing a Tim licking the inside of his little cocktail glass.

It's a sight. You guys be honest. Are you turned on watching me do that? You look like a, you look like a German shepherd given a, given a, the end of a latte. Um,

a German shepherd is like a shepherd who is of German descent. Yeah, that's what he meant. Yeah, that's what he meant. Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. He means a dog, dude. Here's what's funny. I gulped this thing really fast. I'm already feeling a little bit of the first hint of a buzz kicking in.

And that's interesting to me. Looking back at a recipe, there's no rum, vodka, whiskey, tequila in this drink. It's just little gentle ones, triple sec, Galeano. Those are the only two things our liquor's coming from. I'm looking up Galeano, though. It's 80 proof. Yeah. There we go.

But you're using such a small amount. It's syrupy, though. Like, I tried a sip of it, and it's got that falernum-y like it it's thick yeah you had to floss afterwards it was so thick but somehow 80 proof now i'm drinking this thing and i'm picturing myself in miami in the 60s and it does work i i i wish it were more gold it's called the golden dream but it's really more of the yellow yeah pea dream uh the creamy pea is what a yellow nightmare um but it's making me wonder uh to you guys what is your relationship to the city of miami my i got a i got a good miami story for you, Tim. Sophomore year at college.

It's spring break. Me and my buddy go down to Miami. Hell yeah. Now, is this Terry, Tom, or Todd? This is Terry. Got it. First time I'd ever been on a plane in my life. Wow.

No shit. Can you believe that? On the way up, they bumped me up to first class just on a sort of a... Are you serious? Yeah, it was a lucky type thing. It wasn't because it was my first flight. But that's great. Like every other flight you took, you were in first class.

That's pretty good. Yes, yes. I was 50% first class. So we go down to Miami. And we're not there. I mean, we're not... At this point, I hadn't become a party maniac. And also, we weren't down... It was just the two of us. So we weren't down there with like a big group and we didn't know anyone. So we went to the beach the first day. We're hanging out, having some fun, jumping in the water.

He's like, let's go out. We're going to go out to the bars around town. We're going to, a friend of ours from different colleges is there. We're going to meet up with her. And we get back to the hotel room. And Terry has forgotten to put any type of lotion on his legs. His legs are like burnt to the point where he can't walk. So what do we do?

We lay in our beds. We get a little vodka and orange juice. We lay in our beds and we watch Jerry Maguire, which was on TV. Oh, exciting stuff. Two fun guys hanging out in Miami. One can't walk because of the birds. Man, I have a similar story, Michael. It was another college spring break. I've seen pictures of

this the gang and I went down to Key West to go camping and so you know we're like poor college kids when you watched another Cuba Gooding jr. snow dogs no dogs so we got down there one of us was an eagle scout my friend trevor and uh we get there and it's drizzling we get to the campsite so we're like quickly gathering stuff and setting setting up tents before it really rains and he's just gathering any brush that can uh burn we set we uh start this fire he starts this fire and in the morning we all have rashes on our arms and some like a little bit like on our faces we're like what is this did you get bit by something i don't know and trevor wakes up and his face is swollen his eyes are like shut and it's because he had gathered the local quote-unquote poison

wood as the kindling and as he's blowing in the fire to start it it's just like he's just like burning some it's like a poison ivy variant or something like that but it's called poison wood and so like literally the night we arrived this rash started spreading and then when you take a shower it spreads and it was like on our dicks and stuff it was not fun i think i saw a picture of you like coming out of your tent or something your face is all like swollen up and stuff i think it the the craziest one is trevor it's because it's like it looks like he was stung by bees all over his face it's great that sucks jeez it's uh i guess that miami you got to be careful if you go down there you're gonna get

some sort of weird air ailment yeah you inhale the wrong uh poison wood fumes you're gonna get a bad dose tim i i'm feeling jealous that you finished your golden dream so early because now mine's starting to get warm and you got yours went out on a high note and i'm stuck with this starting to get warm golden dream mine was so did you guys have chilled glasses uh no did you keep your glass in the freezer no i should have you know what they did in the old timey times was you just put a few ice cubes in the glass and like jiggle it around a little bit and then let that sit while you're getting your other ingredients ready and that will cool down the glass i see that when i go to like a more of a mixology type bar uh i see him do that i was like oh that's interesting why wouldn't you just do it all at the same time i guess there's not a real reason

to do it anymore because everyone has freezers and rightidges. Right, I think they're just trying to be like the old style. Yeah, well you should slap them around and say, knock it off. Get with the new times, man. I tried that once and they threw me out. They got the bouncer over there and said, you gotta get out of here. Slap you around. And would it be so bad to just put some cubes in this thing?

It's interesting that I feel that kind of with every shaken cocktail. I like drinks on the rocks. Really, the martini is the only drink that I'm like, yeah, this is perfect and smooth. And I don't want it to get any meltier as it goes. I don't want anything to bump my teeth. Well, you don't want to have rocks in there because it's going to be changing the taste as you go. You know when you get an old-fashioned and it has one big ice cube in it?

You're supposed to wait until it gets to your preferred meltiness, and then you can drink the whole cocktail at that meltiness. Then you slam it. Yes. Wham, bam. Slam! You know what I say about this drink? This golden dream?

If you showed up to a party with friends, a bunch of friends not a huge blowout but a get together and you're like hey i'm gonna bring this drink golden dream i think people would be like holy shit this is great you you know how to make this you're the man you're awesome you're the man we're gonna we're gonna raise the roof for you my man we're gonna raise it for you tonight it's funny trying such a surprising drink it's like like if i it's always like i'm making old fashions i'd be like okay i've had something like that or even martini or sorry the uh manhattan's yeah i was like yeah this kind of tastes like an old fashion i get it but this is like nothing i've ever had

before i'll put a lot of thought into if i'm arriving to the type of party you're talking about like a party that is enough people that it's worth putting some thought into the drink but it's all it's not like a big rager where who cares people are just drinking beer uh when you try it it's it's funny to i wonder a drink like this it is interesting enough that i think it would be right and it would be like oh i haven't heard of that. And it's really good. And it was worth it, but you can overshoot and you do a weird thing. Yeah. And then I had one when I, um,

uh, Mike, your girlfriend, Maria was having a Christmas party one year. And I, uh, it was like, Hey,

I don't want to arrive empty handed to our apartment. I'll stop and I'll buy something. And then I was looking at the shelf and I said, I don't want to bring something kind of basic. I want to bring something kind of cool. I'm walking around. I say, you know, Maria has good taste. She probably would be impressed if I got something impressive.

And then, you know, what caught my eye? Do you remember what I brought? I remember it was a big red bottle of something. It was a bottle of Campari, which is not a thing that you bring on its own. Is that a mixer? Yeah, that's like a. It's in like, I have since learned that you would have it in like a Negroni. It's a very bitter, it's like Aperol, I guess. Okay. in like a Negroni. It's a very bitter, it's like Aperol, I guess. And, and I just walked in because

I, uh, on the back of the thing, you know, every liquor thinks you're going to just like have it on the rocks, have it straight, have it up, have it, you know? So I, I was fooled by the bottle. I just, I brought it and I proudly put it on the table and thinking like, everyone's going to help themselves to this. And then, uh, no one was drinking and i tried to start a little buzz about the campari and then i poured myself a campari and soda and it was really bitter and it was just bubbly bitter and then i was telling people you know they got a component so i remember you coming up to me and saying that i was like could you just get away from me for two seconds about this kabari uh it's just a bitter thing that you wouldn't want to like i i i lately i feel like i've been arriving

to people's houses with a fun a fun hard seltzer you know or or my preferred hard seltzer or or maybe i don't drink a lot of flavored beers like Golden Road pineapple beers and stuff. But sometimes if I go to someone else's house, I'll bring a little bit more of a novelty beer. It's hard to hit that just right where people say, oh. You know what this drink reminds me? So this was made in the 60s, you say? Yes. And the 60s were a tumultuous time in America. I mean, you had the sort of Vietnam War.

Oh, Tim, hold on. I'm going to cut you off there because I just don't want to get too down a path, that path. Okay, yeah. Because that's a whole other episode we can talk about the Vietnam War. Also, Mike still supports the Vietnam War

and this is just the whole thing we don't want to get into. Yeah, we don't want to get into that. This drink, the Golden Dream, reminds me of like, if you're reading a play like virginia who's afraid of virginia wolf let's say yes and they mention a drink called like the golden dream it's one of those things where like you've never heard of it before and you're a little lost for a minute about

what's going on until later in the scene they're like hey these drinks are good and you're like oh they're drinks the golden dream is a drink i see And you're like, oh, they're drinks. The Golden Dream is a drink. I see. Yes, I know exactly what you mean. It just feels like that, like something out of a play that you're just not sure what's going on. We're all out of Galliano and we were all upset with Ichabod. It's like, ugh.

I think I felt that way when I saw Meet the Parents and they were all out of Tom Collins books. Oh, yeah. I was like, have we established this character Tom Collins? And they're out of him? Guys, I want to take it back to Orange

Julius. Okay. Yeah, why don't we just rewind? Yeah, we can Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nasty. You know what? I sounded like there was the guy in the movie Seven who was tied nasty. You know what? I, I sounded like there was the, uh, the, um,

the guy in the movie seven who was tied to the bed continued. I know that was, I, I didn't mean to take you there, Tim. I know it's a traumatic time for you. I didn't want to touch on that. That's for another episode.

Um, you remember orange Julius from the mall. For me, it's the mall of New Hampshire in Manchester, New Hampshire. That's where I had my first Orange Julius. I loved it. I miss them. They're still around or no?

It feels like it. Let me look and see if it's still around. People joke about it like, the mall, Orange Julius. But it's like, that's good. That's a good thing. Joke's on you. They're fucking good. You know what they call it now?

Passion Fruit James. It's so hipsterized. Starfruit Jaden. Orange Julius still exists. Their website is going strong. It looks like they've pivoted to be, they've got a Jamba Juice aesthetic, which is a smart move.

You know, they still have the original drink, but then they've worked in someamba juice aesthetic which is a smart move you know they still have the original drink but then they've worked in some other smoothies good for them i used to go to a place my parents are from montreal and they had orange julep which was basically the same thing but it was a the whole building was a it was a big dome that was a big orange so when you're a kid you're like can we go to the orange dude i fucking love that what's that um what's that bar up in the valley that's shaped like a barrel oh yes um something times idle idle hour idle hour idle hour is a bar up in the up in the valley shaped like a barrel and even when you step inside of it the like main area you are inside of a big hollowed out barrel

and then when you go to the bathroom they have all these photos on the wall of buildings in america that are shaped like objects so it'd be like here's a building shaped like a hot dog here's a building shaped like a dog or a pair of shoes i love it oh man i love that there la used to have a lot more of those. Is that a hot dog stand? Like the tail of the pup or something like that? A building shaped like a thing, especially if it's the thing you're eating. That's fun.

I live in a building that's shaped like a big cube. Oh, you're making me hungry for ice cubes. For what? Ice cubes, baby. The building block of a wonderful cocktail. Very true.

Well. Wait, let me ask you this. Yeah. Creamsicles. Did you get, I, when I was a kid, but a boy, in school, I loved, you know the the ice cream choices at uh lunch we would have the that strawberry shortcake pop that was yeah it's got crumbles ice cream with the crumbles oh and those crumbles are good and then we had the chocolate version of that the eclair pop not as good um i i like i i would say on different days I go different ways.

I was usually the chocolate version. Oh, but right in the mix was the creamsicle and, uh, and we, I would get those all the time and I love them. And, but then I do think at school I had creamsicles at home too, but creamsicles didn't have the crumbles. And I remember thinking I was getting more bang for my 50 cents by getting the crumbly ones. They were a little bit bigger. Creepsicle was one that I stayed away from for a long time, being like, orange and cream? I'm not sure what that is.

And I know what chocolate is. I'm going to eat the chocolate. And I like Creepsicle now. I do. I really do. That also reminds me of the Flintstones push-up pop. The Fred ones were orange, and they had that same sort of like orange sherbet. The Fred ones.

The push-up mechanism is ridiculous and irrelevant, but it totally worked on kids, and those pops were really, really good. Tim, it's absolutely functional. What are you talking about? Why does it have to be pushed up? Because it's soft. It's soft. Because it's's absolutely functional. What are you talking about? Why does it have to be pushed up? Because it's soft. It's soft. Because it's fun and functional. Hey, that cylinder, that was like a toilet paper roll kind of, huh?

Ugh. Damn. And what were they pushing out of it? Oh, no, dude. I actually don't think I want to know. Yeah, I actually don't really actually want to even go there. Well, folks, let's take a break and we're back talking about our final thoughts on the golden dream.

You want to know my thought on this? Yeah. Yeah. Delicious. Ordering again, making again. I love this. Michael. I'm glad I now have the implements in my home to make this because I will make one tomorrow night as well. Damn, dude.

I have to agree. Delicious. Love it. Going to make it. Going to well. Damn, dude. I have to agree. Delicious. Love it. Going to make it. Going to use these ingredients, drink them, and then tomorrow my body will be, you know, sick and dehydrated on account of how many of these I drink later tonight. But I also wanted to yield some or the opposite of yielding. Keep some of my time.

I love the drink. I'm going to drink it again. It's fantastic. yield and keeps them on time. I love the drink. I'm going to drink it again. It's fantastic. I was thinking, you know, when you mentioned Mike, that you got a free upgrade to first class. That's right. I loved it. I was, that never, ever happens to me. And I always try and I sign up for those and I, I never get a first class upgrade. But one time, um, my family, when I was like five, we were going to Bermuda and, uh, my whole family's flying out of, from Florida to Bermuda. And, um, they're like, Oh, one of you can get a first class, uh, upgrade. And my mom is like, Oh, I'll go with the kids.

Uh, and, uh, honey, why don't you go first class? So my dad went first class. And then I remember being like, oh, dad, I wanted to go to the fancy one. And dad gets to go first class. So we were all sitting coach. And then my dad was sitting first class. And then midway through the flight, the flight attendant opened the curtain. And I looked up at the first class. And in that very moment, I saw my dad

lifting a strawberry through the air and down into his mouth and taking a bite of a strawberry. And then the curtain closed and I was like, mom, he's got strawberries. All we got is we got pretzels and dad was eating a strawberry. And I, like that is burned in my brain of I've gotten to fly first class a few times, never like on my own dime, but whenever I think of it, it's always like, oh

fresh strawberry. That feels like a thing from literature too where it's like, we had pretzels, but dad he had a strawberry. And strawberry would also be a delicacy in like victorian times this was like 1994 um well for me i love this uh golden dream i'm gonna make it also this is gonna this is rev this is renegade thinking and i don't expect you guys to be on board with it but i'm gonna say it this could be a good breakfast drink oh well yes interesting we are

always looking to expand the brunch drink options is it too much of a dessert what makes it deserty though just the cream because you think orange juice is breakfast. That's fine. Think about Belgian waffles and pancakes piled up with whipped cream. Why not have this? You get cream on those, don't you? Add this to the brunch menu. Put it right next to the mimosa. It's way better. All right.

I'll bring it up at the next brunch meeting. We'll see. Where are you having brunch meetings? I'm part of the New York City Brunch Society. We kind of help each other out, talk about the menu items and that type of thing. I shouldn't even be talking about it. And hey, folks, if you have ideas for brunch drinks, that is something we look for tips. Our friend Fran said the French 75 is a good brunch drink.

That's a champagne cocktail. It's very good. I like the Bloody Mary. I like the Caesar.ary i like uh the uh the caesar we've talked about the bullshot on here before the bullshot is apparently for some people a brunch drink now what is that what is that the beef thing or something that's the beef that was the beef the beef beef vodka lemon and and but i've seen some like horseradish more of a more of a um bloody mary style oh i like that i love horseradish, more of a more of a Bloody Mary style.

Oh, I like that. I love horseradish. Yeah. Zap zap. OK, well, that's it for the golden dream, folks. We've got some mail. Allison writes. Hi, sloppy boys.

My fiance, Sean, and I are huge fans of the pod and our true slop heads. We're getting married this summer hey how about that nice congrats congratulations congrats salutio if we wanted to include a sloppy boy song in the ceremony which one do you think would be the best oh i'm taken yeah that's people have used that i think people have used that before right it's a groom anthem i'm taking it's about not making love to anybody but your wife you get out on the dance floor you dance have the groom dance by himself for three minutes of that hey but you also have east coast wedding i mean i don't know if they're

on the east coast yeah east coast wedding is the theme song of this very podcast it depends what you're going to be using this song for right is it a fun everyone's going kooky part of the ceremony or is it like let's have a little sentiment here and i'm taken i think it's we're at the altar in the church and the the rings are on and it's a serious moment of love well if you're in the well maybe, maybe Walking Down the Aisle song could be I'm So Punk Rock. That'd be good. I have a regret.

You know, I got married a few years ago, and when I look back on it, like when I was walking down the aisle, I should have done a funny disco dance move. That was your chance, man. Imagine if I had turned to the crowd and say, hey, everyone, John Travolta. That would have been so funny, dude.

It honestly could have been epic. I would have said, what's he having and can I have a double? Oh, she says, thank you, Allison in St. Louis. So not quite East Coast enough. Ah, St. Louis. I consider St. Louis to be East Coast. It's closer to the East Coast.

I mean, it's on the west bank of the Mississippi River, so. Hmm. Well, if you've got a question for the boys, email us at thesloppyboyspodcasts at gmail.com. And that's our show! Follow us on social media at The Sloppy Boys, where we release these recipes ahead of time. Also, be sure to check out our Patreon where subscribers

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