The Sloppy Boys - 16. Bull Shot

Episode Date: February 5, 2021

The guys venture off-list once again, in search of an infamous beefy beverage…BULL SHOT RECIPE1.5oz/45ml Vodka3oz/90ml Beef Broth2 dash Worcestershire Sauce2 dash Tabasco Sauce1 dash Lemon JuiceCelery Salt (optional, to taste)Pour ingredients into shaker filled with ice. Shake and strain into a rocks glass filled with ice. Garnish with lemon wedge and fresh ground pepper. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. Guess who's back, back, back, back again. Oh no. Mike Hanford's back, back, back, back again. Oh no. Mike Hanford's. Back, back, back, back again. So go say, bring, bring, guess who's back.

What's happening, Jeff? Whoa. And Tim Kalpakis. Guess who's back? Tim is back. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the pod. Hello, hello.

Hello. Now, Mike, that was a bit of a kind of a multimedia tech thing you had going on oh yeah did you notice that yeah i guess um yeah i guess i got very techie on this one today and i wanted to wanted a real a real intro that worked i a lot of my intros are like hi i said i gotta re i gotta rebrand this one was awesome it's really cool because a lot of people probably tune in don't know hey is mike gonna be back uh i know he was on the podcast last week and the previous weeks of every single episode but i wonder if he'll be yeah yeah and like and who mike hanford's back. Mike Hanford, apostrophe S, because he is back.

Right, right. Well, guys, last week we made a big deal about how we were trying to drink we never tried before. Never even heard of. And this, this time, we're zagging on you again, folks. This time we're going just a little bit babongos. Yeah, this is not on the IBA. You're not going to find the bullshot on the IBA. Uh-uh.

You're not going to find it on other podcasts, I'll tell you that much. You, you, we, but we've talked about it before. You've heard it on this podcast a few times. I've hinted. Yes, this is an idea we've fostered on this very pod. We foreshadowed. I'm very excited about this one. This is sounds very uncouth

for a drink. Well, I'm all amped up. Want to get into it? Yeah. Yes. Do you know anything about it, Tim? Well, let me take you to three years ago when I was

sitting on my couch watching a certain film called Caddyshack that I'd seen many times before. And what? Noonan, Noonan. Mike, I'll stop. My arm, Noonan. Okay.

Okay, you knock it off right now. All right, that's fine. Mike, stop. I won't do any more of the famous Caddyshack lines. Well, this is a line that's not too famous. I know all the big ones, and I've seen the movie 35 times, and then this one hit me weird. Play the clip.

Hey, Sabu, can you make a bull shot? Can you make a shoe smell? Hey, Sabu, can you make a bull shot? Can you make a shoe smell? I don't understand even a word of this whole sentence. Do you? No. It's a lot to parse.

I didn't get any part of it. So I stopped. Was Sabu the character's name? No, the character behind the bar is Denunzio, the Italian caddy. And Rodney Dangerfield goes up to him. Honestly, my best guess is that Sabu is kind of like a racial slur here. Because I looked around and Sabu is an Indian first name. And there have been TV characters and comic book characters named Sabu.

So maybe in a suit, he resembled a character from an Indian TV show or a show that was from before I was born. Or just dark skinned. Yeah, or he just sees an Italian guy and calls him an Indian guy's name. This is not the best comedy writing folks, even though, Hey, I mean, Doug Kenny,

uh, Brian Doyle, Murray, Harold Ramis, they should know better. Um, that's, that's the,

uh, the subject of the sentence is, Hey Sabu. And then the predicate, if we're going to be really specific, can you make a bull shot? So I said, what's a bull shot

i look it up and much to my surprise a bull shot is a cocktail that is vodka and beef broth the two main components you wouldn't expect to touch each other ever and shall not and shan't not unless you're a podcaster it's kind of getting kind of silly and the uh the thing that surprised me is it's not a shot this is a a tall drink you sit with correctamundo i'm wondering if in if if it started out as a shot no it didn't you know what it is it's a it's it's a play on bullshit they were being cheeky with the, with the word bullshit. I got that. And then it just assumed it was a shot and they're like, Hey, this works. Yeah. I think you're probably maybe more intellectual than the people that invented this drink, but here's what I, uh,

so back in the day, when I first found this out, I did find a weird recipe and I made one and, uh, and it was a wild experience. But, uh,. But the history I found was kind of interesting because this drink, the Bullshot, is invented at the Caucus Club in Detroit, which is a restaurant right across the street from the much more famous London Club. So they're kind of like they needed a thing. They're an old school chop house,

kind of place where people are eating prime rib and listening to grand piano playing. Heaven, heaven to me. You know, Mike Hanford would kind of be moving table to table. How's everybody's fucking thing going on? Is everyone enjoying the piano grand?

Which notes would you like to hear on the piano? For example, I can talk to the guy and have it made. Um, a young Barbra Streisand was a lounge singer there. So that's kind of cool. That's the vibe of this place. It went out of business at some point.

It actually recently reopened and is doing well. But in 1952, the owner wanted to help out his friend who was an ad man who had the Campbell's soup account. This is sounding kind of familiar with the Moscow mule. It was a couple of mad men doing that. Fireball too did that. Yes. So here we are corporate stooges telling their history. Every, every week I talk about this where we're ponds in this game. history every every week i talk about this we're we're pawns in this game this ad man was saddled with the with promoting campbell's new product campbell's canned beef bouillon aka beef broth liquid you know um those words are interchangeable bouillon and beef broth but it's consummate uh consummate is clarified with a little

bit of egg or gelatin to make it more perfect and pure okay i will just go jump out the fucking window no but stay in the window because you are allowed to use consomme as well but that so that's what it was the guy at the caucus club wanted to help out his admin man friend and they were like what can i put beef broth in? And the, the owner of the caucus club came up with the bullshot and bing, bang, boom. We're talking about an ounce and a half of vodka,

three ounces of beef broth, AKA bullion, AKA sure. Some consummate, if you like a dash of lemon juice, you know, let's call it, let's say a squeeze of one wedge. Sure. Two dashes

of Worcestershire sauce. How do you guys say that word? Some people say Worchester. It's spelled Worchester Shire. Worcestershire. I say it with like a W-U sound. Worcestershire. It's like Gloucester in Massachusetts is spelled Gloucester. And

Worcester in mass is spelled Worchester. Interesting. Well, I see Worcester sauce, two dashes of Tabasco, ground pepper to taste, optional celery salt, which we should do because celery salt is absolutely delicious. Fuck. Garnish with a lemon wedge, pour ingredients into a shaker with ice and shake, strain into a rocks glass with ice cubes, garnish with a lemon wedge, or even sprinkle a littleaker with ice and shake. Strain into a rocks glass with ice cubes. Garnish with a lemon wedge or even sprinkle a little bit of pepper on there.

So that's the, Michael, you found that recipe on the net. There were a few ones floating around, but this felt like the gold standard. They all kind of like had this vibe to it. Yeah. Yeah. And I found an interview with the caucus club guy and it sounded like this was the deal. And you, sorry, you said Tabasco? Tabasco. You know, sometimes recipes just say hot pepper sauce or, but do Tabasco. It's a very distinct sauce. And, uh, and it's ubiquitous. You're going to find it everywhere. And we want everybody to be sipping the same thing and having their own reaction.

Yeah, exactly. To what we're sipping on, you know? thing and having their own reaction yeah exactly we're sipping on you know and if if you don't have tabasco sure we'll let you use a little franks or a little bit of uh you know i love franks it is a very different taste though that franks and tabasco i will jump in there yeah it's buffalo that's different well the franks category that's all cayenne sauce is a louisiana thing and there's many that are very similar tabasco, also Louisiana, but that's its own thing. It's very steakhouse-y. It's very Detroit caucus club.

Yeah, it's very tobacco sauce. Good, good, good. Same thing with our Worcestershire sauce. You know, that brand, like if you get the brand that's in the paper. Yeah, Lee and Perkins. Yeah, I love that. That's some old school stuff. That's what I got. My mom used to make me laugh as a kid where

she'd be cooking or something and I'd be in the kitchen and she'd take, we had Worcestershire sauce and she'd be like, Hey Mike, Worcestershire sauce! And I'd be like, yeah! That's funny. Mom, you're killing it! You're doing great! Dad, you gotta hear mom!

Dad, what are you working on? Oh, shut up and leave me alone. Is it ready yet? We're having Worcestershire for dinner, Dad. So it should be pretty close to being ready. So Tim, this sounds a lot like your beloved Bloody Mary. It really does, Jay. Good detective work there.

Because that's where this sort of drink lands. The reputation is that it kind of started off as a freak drink, as they called it. A novelty. Freaky. That's kind of a funny thing. And then some people were like, you know, it's actually got vitamins in it so that it's a very healthy masculine thing to drink. It never took off huge, but where it did well i had never been on the sloppy boys podcast yeah this is probably its biggest moment um and where it did find its

place was as a non-tomato alternative to the bloody mary some people don't like tomato they think it's gruesome carl feiler tomatoes right tomatoes and ketchup and like mustard are things that people just like uh don't can't do tomato juice some people dislike it on land and then they do like it on a plane because their taste buds are inhibited enough that it doesn't taste as earthy no tell those people get their fucking story straight that doesn't make any sense i read about that in an in-flight magazine. Well, Tim, you and I, we were actually, all three of us were on a flight once

and you must have hated your tomato juice because you dumped it all over your lap. Oh my God, just the worst thing to get off. It wasn't even a Bloody Mary. I had asked for a can of Bloody Mary mix and I was drinking it virgin and I dumped the whole thing all over my jeans.

Hey, at least it's not bright red and wet and gold. Folks, if you're going to Seattle, the last way you want to arrive is with tomato juice down your pants. Okay. They don't take kindly. The grungers don't dig it. Also to get personal, uh, haven't both of you guys been told that you should have less salt?

What are we doing here? That's true. A lot of people tell me a lot of things about my salt intake and and to them i say this is none of your business i i am salt sensitive i've developed it as a 30 something i have been drinking water all day in preparation for this salt water smart yeah whoops i was just taking a mug out of the ocean. What? Ocean water? What? I'm in Marina Del Rey. I actually, for, that's just funny that I'm thinking of it now. For dinner, I just had leftover beef stew that Maria made. I chose incorrectly on that one.

You're going to get a lot of iron. That's another trick we play in my home is Jessica has been told sometimes she's iron deficient. So then I'll be like, we got to go out and eat steaks. And you get to be like, yeah. We got to go out and eat steaks. Maybe I should get the big 24-ounce cut. Maybe I'll eat the fat too. Yeah.

But just so rounding it out, the cultural reference point for this one, Richard Chamberlain, the actor, liked it. Joan Crawford, who also drank Golden Dream. Oh, Cindy's mom. I thought this was kind of cool. In the early 70s, Malcolm McDowell drank bullshots while he was doing press for A Clockwork Orange. Cool. Cool. By the way, he should have been drinking tall glasses of milk, but keep going.

I know. And by the way, he should have been drinking tall glasses of milk, but keep going. I know. I feel like he probably did the math on that and was like, is it too on the nose if I drink milk? What's another weird cow thing? What doesn't come from the udders, but is boiled from the bones? Well, and then, yeah, the drink petered out in the eighties when people were no longer enamored with canned products because in the fifties it was like, oh, it's perfect and it's clean and we're consumers and we like buying Campbell's cans that started to go out of style. to be a funny dated reference although if you flash forward a couple decades i was watching a little show called the sopranos and tony was eating at a steakhouse in upstate new york with christopher and he was making fun of christopher for not drinking and here's a little snippet

sobriety's hard enough work without having to get mocked for what are a fucking bullshit? Will you do me a favor? What a dickhead yelling at his sober friend to drink a cow cocktail. A fucking bullshit. Do me a fucking favor. So what do you guys think? When you think of this drink, do you say, oh, no, no, that is not for me? Or do you say, yes, yes, yes, I shall wait and see. I'm the latter. Look, you've seen me. I like

steak. I like soup. I like brothy, beefy soup. This is going to be fun. He's right. Every time I see him, he's got a steak nearby. Broth in hand. I just really hope it doesn't taste like

chopped liver. Yes. You hope your beef cocktail doesn't taste like chopped liver. That would be awful if it did. You're using your cell phone like Macaulay Culkin's Talkboy. And we're playing right into the palm of your hand, much like

the pizza guy. Tim, I'm looking forward to it let's go okay let's do it this is a good recipe i'll say this i've had one in my life before it was a bad recipe that was just beef and vodka but with all these little seasonings this could be interesting it could be good. Let's drink the fucking thing. Folks, we'll be right back. Hey folks, it's me, Miley. Sorry, Mike. It's Mike. Anyway, a lot of people ask me what I do when I'm not whipping up cocktails. Well, I like to listen to podcasts just like you. And me? I love

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He's reaching to the sun! And we're back, folks. Hey mixed up wow got them guys i feel a little more um scared nervous now than i did before the smell is uh it's something don't be swayed by the smell my yeah true i each one of these ingredients i was sipping it as I was adding them, and I said, these are all delicious. But then when I shook it, that's when I got frothy. Yeah. And that's when I poured it into my thing.

It wasn't even brown anymore. It was just like foam. Yeah, beige. Beige foam. And then also just coaxing it out of the shaker was uh a whole step i was like hey i didn't get i didn't get too much out of that shaker oh it's still coming still coming just a foamy beef broth making its way out of the shaker holes shall we yeah we shall sip one here we go

yeah we shall sip one here we go zoop honestly oh all right zing zang zoomer yeah i got a bit of a pepper up the nose okay zoomer that's uh zip zap zap oh maybe i may maybe i made this thing wrong Mike you're being swayed by the smell the taste what you want is the taste I got the taste alright I am liking this because when I had in the past it just

the flavors didn't go together to create a new you want a recipe to be greater than the sum of its ingredients in the past i tasted soup and vodka but with thought tabasco and the lemon yeah it is all blending together and i'm getting kind of a new mommy zing zow zow timothy i'm allowed to have a little fun I yeah I definitely like when you first said a bull shot was

vodka and beef broth and that was it I was like ooh that doesn't sound so good but then I started reading about it what you were saying replacing the you started educating yourself I said I educated myself that I could replace the Bloody Mary and I thought to myself yes uh huh Bloody Mary, and I thought to myself, There's a concept that works.

Yes. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Do you ever think anything to yourself that wasn't on the Slim Shady EP? Huh. I don't know. I don't think so. Hasn't come up. Hasn't come up. I was a little frustrated by what a dash is

because I was putting a dash of this, two dashes of this, and then I do think I accidentally by what a dash is because I was putting a dash of this, two dashes of this and that. And then I do think I accidentally put too much celery salt because it is salty and I won't sleep a wink tonight. And then the Worcestershire was a little bit more of a glug than a dash. Yeah, I think that's my problem here. I put too much Worcestershire because I couldn't get a good like the Tabasco really shoots out. This thing was just like poor. I was knocking drips out of my Tabasco and my

Worcestershire was like Hurricane Katrina. That's what I'm saying. I didn't have celery salt, but I put a little piece of celery in it like a Bloody Mary. Yeah, it looks bloody. There you go. It looks great. Man, I can't believe the contrast between the

smell that I would call poor. This is a, it smells poor. It smells like, it smells like musky and animal-like. Yeah. And then the taste, but the taste. The taste shall not go to waste. It's good. It's good.

Also, I cracked a little, I don't have any celery salt, but I cracked a little black pepper on top. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Oh, you ground it up fresh? Well, I have, you know, one of those grinders, the McCormick grinders. Yeah, McCormick. That's a great product. Yep.

I love McCormick, their whole line of spices. Um, I am feeling like you could almost forget that this was beef and just sort of like, you know, when you have a really good michelada and just sort of like, you know, when you have a really good michelada and it's not very tomatoey, but it's like dark, it's like tamarind. There's, there's a little bit of that going on here where,

you know, soy sauce is basically like beef. This could be a soy sauce drink. Yeah. Oh boy. I got to say I am, each time I sip it, I am swayed by the smell because

i smell it before i drink it and i don't that's what makes me immediately think of it as like a cold beef soup and i remember before i had a big talking game about loving beef and loving beef soup and you always have beef stew all around you close by nearby at any time um there are are there like flex in yours um i wonder if it might mind to just have like little tiny ice chunks because i was uh really shaking the shit out of it or if there are there is there kind of a pulpy quality to beef broth or is it kind of thin it should be thin what did you use for beef broth uh i got uh just like a normal grocery store carton of beef broth they had low sodium and normal i picked normal um yeah i didn't know the difference so when i was just googling now and it said you are allowed to use consomme

or broth or bouillon but i do think that some that broth might have some bits in it whereas uh consomme has been refined refined did you shake it jeff i shook mine up roger the shit out of it i think i had like shards of ice floating around so i was like why why am i chewing this hey you know how this the method of mixing this one was shaking it up um is there ever a drink like if we had a drink where it's like, you don't just put everything in the glass and stir it or in the shaker and shake it. It's like they have to be ordered in a certain way. I guess the Tequila Sunrise needed to have that for the effect.

Yeah. But it usually doesn't, for the taste, it usually shouldn't matter. Well, like I made some old fashions last night and, you know, they tell you normally like, Oh, put in your water and your sugar cube and muddle it in there with the bitters before you put in the ice. And then, so like there were some steps in, in some drinks, not many we've covered though. I don't think we've done stuff. A lot of that comes into play with cream cause you can't let it curdle yeah and and things like egg will be added last and we've kept it pretty basic 101 yeah so far okay okay when we have made fancy drinks we bitch and moan the whole episode like the zombie there's too many steps guys this is good um i really like that i am when i take a sip and i try to key into the ingredients, they do blend together. I'm not just saying, well, there's a little lemon over here and there's a little pepper over here.

They became one. I think I made this thing wrong. Like, this is not right. Whatever this is. This can't be right. It looks right. I mean, it's also possible that me and Jeff are weird for liking this cow drink. Yeah, it's like each sip I'm like

Mike, hold it up. Yes. Yeah, it looks right. It's brown. It looks like iced tea. Oh, yeah. Some people split the broth with tomato juice

like Emeril does a bloody bowl. That's a smart move. That could be good. Yeah. That's the move, Emeril. I mean, you know, people are going to think this is weird because it's beef.

Yeah. And that's their right. And they're correct. They're not wrong. Those people are right. But also, this isn't any weirder than a Clamato to me. True. Wait, what's Clamato to me. True.

You know, wait, what's Clamato's clam tomato sauce drink, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's disgusting. Like a beer. I mean, it is disgusting, but like, but like that's sold in stores ready to go. Yeah. And I think anything that's got like a weird animal protein in it, people are rightly going to be there um, there is going to give people pause. And this, this is beefier.

I like Clamato because the clam is barely there and it just tastes like sea salt or something. Yeah. Beef is beefier than clam. I have to agree with that. We should have been wearing our, uh, Hanes beefy teas while we're drinking this stuff. Um, what other savory cocktail, you know, like, is there a chicken gelada that we could be drinking?

I don't know. Is there a... Bacon. You guys know that I love bacon. I have seen the Bloody Mary with the bacon strip in it. Oh, yeah. As like the garnish. Are you sure you're not talking about a celery stalk?

No, wait, I'm sorry. It was not a, it wasn't a, uh, shit. It wasn't a Bloody Mary. It was a, uh, a plate full of fried eggs. Yes. Common misconception. Yeah. What do you think of, um, uh, Rodney Dangerfield walking up to Denunzio and saying, Hey, can you make a bullshot? And then he said, I guess when you say, can you make a shoe smell? It's like, yeah, of course. It has a bear shit in the woods. Yeah. So this was a nighttime fancy party.

And Rodney was going to drink this at his banquet dinner. Hmm. Huh. If you're going to be around someone you want to give a little smooch smooch. I would maybe steer you away from the bull shop. Well, that's you guys. I mean, that's, uh, that's why I'd be doing it if we were in the same room. After every drink, come here. That was a good one, wasn't it? Good one. They'll smell you coming a mile away from this thing. Yeah. But that's, what if you're, what if you're trying to date somebody out in cattle country you know and they're like hey yeah that's pretty good for yeah you you remind me of a steer well then they'd be like don't don't drink my livelihood i shall sell that yeah this is a hit on farmers only um i just was thinking about the uh how quizzical I was about the sentence. Hey Sabu, can you make a bullshot?

You ever have that when you're like, somebody says a whole thing to you and you don't understand any part of it. I remember my first job in LA. So this is going back a few years. A guy was talking to me and he mentioned a meme. And I had never, I had never heard the word before. And I was like, a what?

And he goes, a meme. And I'm like, what? And he goes, you know, I can has cheeseburger. And I had not seen that meme. So I was like, dude. That sounds like he's insane or you are insane all of a sudden. one of us is going to the loony bin and uh it ain't me you know i can has cheeseburger okay let me put it in your terms i can has cheeseburger i kind of i did the same uh thing to jessica once where i casually mentioned the movie rockadoodle

the cartoon about a singing chicken yeah yeah and she hadn't heard of rockadoodle and she's like what i was like rockadoodle chanteclair that didn't help the situation either what's the what's the line from stella uh oh like jelly remover for calendars or for photo albums jelly remover for photo albums. For calendars. Or for photo albums. Jelly remover for photo albums. Folks, go watch those Stella shorts. They're funny. You know what I'd probably enjoy drinking more than this?

A little bit of weed mixed with some hard liquor? Yeah, a little bit of weed mixed with hard liquor liquor. Yeah. A little bit of weed mixed with hard liquor, but that's just what I think. You are slim Michael at this point. Yeah. You have sort of a double personality, Mike. Oh yeah.

Michael Mathers. Am I talking to a slim Michael or am I talking to Michael Mathers? Michael Marshall Mathers. Uh, when I was, uh, getting these things today, I was reminded of the,

uh, the venom song from Eminem song from. Oh, was getting these things today, I was reminded of the Venom song from Eminem's song from the other time. Who could forget? Venom, Venom. Venom, Venom. I love that. And your favorite movie line of all time. Yeah.

Sorry about Venom. The very end of a movie. Hey, sorry about Venom. Sorry about Venom. Like that must have been, that was who, Michelle Williams who said that. She must have just been like, given no direction. Right, because she's

a good actor. Like, that's such a weird line to say. And they were just like, yeah, you know, you're sorry that Venom, sorry for what happened to Venom. Okay. You turned into Venom against your will and you were a bad guy for a while. Yeah, sorry he's gone, I guess.

Sorry about this movie we're in. Sorry about the last two hours. Of course, we were up in San Francisco eating at, where were we? House of Nanking. And we walked outside and they were shooting a scene, a motorcycle stunt scene. Yes, a motorcycle chase.

Yeah. And Tom Hardy was nowhere to be found. No. But his stunt double was just as handsome. And they said, people stopped and said, hey, you three kind of look like him. Yeah. Hey, I'm seeing quadruple here.

Four drop dead handsome men. Every time, every year we go to San Francisco and we say, we got to go to the house of prime rib and we've never have made it there. But I think that would be a good place to order a bull shot. Yeah. Yeah. They get that pure beef broth.

The closest we got to eating there was I, I looked up the, I tried to make a reservation. It was all sold out. That was the closest we got. That's pretty good. An attempt at a reservation. Uh,

where else have we gone up there? I know we do House of Nanking almost every time. Tonga Room. Tonga Room. Oh yeah, Tonga Room is wild. What was that cave, that place with the cave that makes the drink mix drinks? Smuggler's Cove. Smuggler's Cove. That place is great, but it does smell like you're

hanging out in a line at like a theme park, like a log flume. It, like a log flume. It smells like a log flume ride. And it takes forever to get a drink because it's all very specialized, you know, cocktails. Oh, and the last time we were there,

somebody puked in the lower base, in the basement level. So on top of it smelling like the Indiana Jones ride, somebody had puked. It's funny too. It's also, that bar rules. Everybody go to Smuggler's Cove. But there's

a funny thing where you're like upstairs and it's a magical world and you're drinking tiki drinks. And then downstairs is kind of a basement and people are chugging beers and barfing two levels of tiki bars. What's the, what's that other place? Uh, uh, it's like the oddities. It's sort of got like a Ripley's believe it or not. Uh specs oh did you guys go there no well no you should vesuvios i like that place that was cool yeah oh hell yeah it was like that little bar how about i um remember that seafood place i brought you guys to that was the tattage grill and we had our own little private room yes that was really cool it was the bomb they made a good martini if i remember correctly yeah you're when you you You know when your waiter is wearing a

white chef coat kind of look, you know you're getting a good martini. Or they're understaffed with waiters and the chef's coming out to take his orders. That might have been the highlight of 2020 for me. That was right before the fall. Yeah. Yeah, geez, that was. We went out with a bang.

And then the rest of the year was total shit. Well, you got to think the COVID was a big factor in with a bang. And then the rest of the year was total shit. Well, you gotta think that COVID was a big factor in that. Huge. Huge problem. Oh, yeah. The guy who got the beef broth account is a very funny idea that he just must have

gotten him like, oh, they're gonna can me, man. They want me out of here. Just give them the beef broth account. I'm in the ejection seat man they gave me beef broth man then everyone's leaving the meeting what what soup did you get i got tomato i got chicken noodle all lucky i got beef broth it's like gill from the simpsons but that was a real guy's job beef Beef broth. So Tim, or Mike, both of you guys, you know your way around the kitchen, maybe a little more than the J-Man.

Yeah, I would say Tim knows his way around the kitchen more than I. I mean, I know where the spoons are, I know where the forks are. I know my way around the kitchen. What's that from? You have a Jedi of Doubtfire. That's correct. Anyway, wait, no, I have a seriousadaya doubt fire that's correct anyway wait no i have a serious question i can get myself into that ice cream pretty quickly come on know where that is

every single time mike stop i'm serious enough nonsense you're right uh what do i do with the rest of my beef broth because i just bought a carton of it and I'm not going to drink 24 bowl shots. Oh, you could make a stew for a couple of friends. Invite them over and they'll bring their bowls. Yeah. You're going to want to make a stew with that. And, uh, yeah, serving a bowl with a big, you know, kind of a wooden spoon, like a Hobbit would eat. So this, this is maybe a dumb question. I have beef broth. I heat it up. So this is maybe a dumb question. I have beef broth. I heat it up.

Is that beef stew? No, no, no. Put a little flour in there, baby. You should just go online and look up recipes for beef broth. I think if I do that plus a carrot, a potato, flour, I guess. Here's what you do, Jeff. You like that slow cooker so much and i don't blame you put some beef broth in there then cook up your stew and that and that's tim also the flour throw in a little vodka and boil that up and see if it gets you drunk you know fancy cooks

that are above my skill level will just use stock chicken stock or vegetable stock or beef stock and they just like have a little squirt bottle and they're just kind of using it instead of water and and they're kind of shooting it all around you're talking about every in in everyday things in like you got a pan and and you got all these delicious crumbles on your pan you want to deglaze and make a little sauce if throw a little stock on there bubble it mix up a little flour in there. You got yourself gravy, Jefferson. I'll use it as a fill-in for a mouthwash if I don't have

any left. Oh, it's starting to get warm too, which is not great for me. You got to use more cubes, my friend. I know. Oh, hey, speaking of this, we got ourselves a little Instagram message that Jefferson, you won't like,

where a guy named Matt W. said, Tim was right about the copper cup with the Moscow Mule. It does not make the drink any colder. In fact, it'll warm up faster. And then I googled and I fact-checked him and I found Thrillist saying the very same thing. They had a doctor.

Is Matt W? Yeah, Matt W. Punk ass. You can't trust that guy further than you can throw him. Bad W? I'll tell you, you know what the W stands for? It's wonderful intellect. That guy needs to chill out with a little... A little bit of weed.

Yes, yes. That's what I suggest. He's not mixing them together. He's smoking weed and then he's drinking hard liquor. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know i say mix them together in some sort of scissor they do something in uh in caddyshack which i called a cannonball or i don't know it's the part where bill murray and chevy chase are like talking to each other late at night and they're drinking and smoking weed and he's like cannonball

it and he like takes a puff of weed and drinks and then exhales exhales yeah man yeah i've done that shit and did you call it cannonball no i don't know hey i don't know man i don't know what you call it but that's a thing like i didn't call it anything i was by myself that would be great just sitting by yourself like you take a big rip and then you cannonball you son of a bitch. Cannonball

is a move that I will often do when I'm jumping in a pool. Yeah. Do you guys find that awesome or what? Yes, I really like that. I like that. I thought that was cool. Boy, yeah, yeah. Do you guys find that awesome or what? Yes, I really like that. I like that. I thought that was cool. Boy, oh boy.

I couldn't have been more excited about this drink, and I'm let down. I feel foolish. I feel foolish. Make another one. Mike. You got the broth. What if you got the broth. What if, what if you excluded the broth and you made a lemony vodka with pepper, Tabasco, and that could be good.

That could be good. Yes. Let me try that. Yeah. Should we do a second, a drink here? Yeah. Yeah. We'll take it.

We'll take a break. And when we come back, Mike will have made some little freakish Frankenstein thing he's going to tell us about. I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to kind of take the beef broth out of it and see what happens. Hey, you could also do a splash of beef, like add to taste. Ah, all right, maybe I'll try that. How about you have a vodka with a beef back?

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eat gross things to kind of freak me out. We're back by the way. Alright. Hey! You guys got your Tabasco sauce. Bob Odenkirk. Odie. Curb your enthusiasm. Very good. Right up.

Mike, you made your new variation. I got a different, I have an alt drink as well where I tweaked it to my specifications. Oh, nice. Which is what you're supposed to do. And here's what I did. Well, you like customizable stuff online. Exactly. Everything customizable because I want to be in control.

I did less beef juice. I did basically one-to-one. And then I did more Tabasco because I like Tabasco. And now I've got a spicy, not-so-salty affair. And I'm not tasting steak. It just is Bloody Mary-esque. And it's delicious. Okay.

I did exactly the same as before. Another one. Jeff. DJ Khaled. I did two ounces vodka. Oh, like a drip of beef broth. Worcestershire and five dashes of hot sauce and lime. And it is disgusting.

Lime or lemon, Mike? Sorry, lemon. You look like there's no cubes in there, so you're kind of just drinking a cloudy, watery-looking drink. I know. I don't have any more ice cubes left either. On the look on his face,

he looks just... This sucks. Looks like a poor orphan boy. This is awful. I think it's the Worcestershire. It's not fun. Not fun for me think it's the Worcestershire is no, it's not fun. Not fun for me.

It's got a little zing pow. Here's the thing I did different. This time I used consomme because I bought a can of that too. Ooh, a lot. Campbell's consomme. Timothy. And it's very, very similar, but it's maybe more,

it tastes like a completed broth. And so it's a little less salty and maybe has some vegetable flavors coming through. So some people might think that's grosser because it tastes more like soup. But I kind of, I was having trouble with the saltiness on the first round and now it's nice. Folks, if you're an elitist prick like Tim,

get yourself some consomme. Instead of the 49 cent can of broth, get the 51 cent. Get yourself some brew collar broth. Have you ever had, you guys been to Musso and Frank? Yeah, I have not. I'm ashamed to say.

We got to all go when, I don't want to get into it. I was there when they were shooting that scene in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Oh shit. Did you play the Brad Pitt role? I was, yes.

That's what I was getting at, Tim. Yes, yes. Did you see Mr. Schwoz? Yeah. Well, they, every time I go there, I try to order something weird off the menu because it's a delicious restaurant with some great stuff. But then they have things from 100 years ago

that no one orders. And one time I saw beef consomme and I said, that'll be a funny thing to order. And they were like, uh, your funniest dinner, please. I always, they have a lot of joke meals, their stuffed celery and stuff like that. But I got the consomme and they were like, would you like it a regular or jellied? And i just said regular because it was my first four and consulate but later i saw what jelly looks like and the normal is just a clear broth soup with nothing floating in it the jellied is cold beef jello it's like it's like when you have have gravy, you're making gravy and it gets cold. It just kind of like jellies. Yeah, the fat congeals together. It's like something

that Diamond Jim Brady would eat before going to the theater. Gross. Well, I don't know about this round, guys. It's too bad, Mike. Bad news. It's bad news.

I mean, look, can we get into final thoughts? Yeah. I mean, as much, I'm glad we made a second one, or I made a second one here today. I don't see myself making this often. It is sort of like a dare food drink, where it's like, try this gross thing, and you might even kind of like it but even

compared to like picklebacks i think i would do i would do picklebacks almost any day of the week and that's considered kind of gross or weird this is really um you know i'm not going to be doing this too often yeah um i think i know what you're getting at jeff this drink is appointment only yes no no no tim that. Tim, Tim, Tim. That would be a weird appointment. I would never call this appointment. I would do this more often than appointment only. Wow.

Wait, more? Okay. What did you call appointment only? Like the Brandy Alexander? Mint Julep, Brandy Alexander. Those are sort of drinks that I don't really even like. But you would have a bull shot more than a mint julep, which is bourbon and mint.

Yeah. You're going to eat the cow cocktail more often than that. Yeah, I guess maybe I just don't like that the mint julep is so celebrated. And I wanted to just use my platform to take it down a peg. That's awesome, dude. And this, I feel like, could use a little help. Conversely, this could use a little help. Hmm.

I don't know. Fair enough. It's not that bad. I just don't want too, too many of them. Well, you would be a very weird guy if you drank this a lot. I would step in if, uh, you know, if I randomly FaceTimed you and I saw that you had a bullshot in your hand, I know what it looks like. I can stop whenever I want. My final thought is, you know, I do like it as a novelty. I feel like a Don Draper kind of a guy, but even more masculine. I'm like a high T, high testosterone Don Dra draper pushed up to the max the chad tim

kalfakis and um i gotta say i think emerald lagasse is right mix this with the bloody mary and then they both get better you could even put a little this into your bloody mary mix and not tell anyone so long as they're not vegan of course and i just had a little brainstorm this into your Bloody Mary mix and not tell anyone, so long as they're not vegan, of course. Of course. And I just had a little brainstorm, which is, I've got a little leftover Lowry's au jus from the last time that I ordered prime rib. And maybe later tonight I'm going to have a fancy bullshot. And then I'll text you guys.

Wait, the au jus has come up in the past. You mixed it in something or something. Yeah, I bragged to you guys that I put it on my spaghetti and it was really good with with no yeah i forget was that with no pasta sauce right i was running out of pasta sauce so i dumped beef juice and it was the best meal i ever ate okay good mike final thoughts yeah this is a no for me dog uh straight up no here's here's what i'm gonna say i'm never gonna make this for myself again unless I'm like a bartender is very much holding my hand. I would go to a place that makes these well and is famous for them and have a professional make this for me. There might not be such a place. If we're being honest, the Caucus Club in Detroit went out of business, then recently reopened.

And on their menu, they have something called the new Bullshot. And I think they make it with gin and they've tried kind of. Oh, gin might be good. It's possible. Gin is a little bit more of a steakhouse-y drink in my mind. Yeah, gin is in, I guess. This may be actually a good drink for COVID. As far as, you know, people have reduced sense of smell after they get COVID.

Yeah, right. That's actually the biggest hurdle for me is I walked back into my kitchen to make another one and I was like, oh, that's nasty. Dude, you gotta. I like it better when it's just a sip sip. You gotta have it up on a plane when you're tasting, smelling, or hearing. Exactly. It's perfect for a plane. People who are having a tough time with smelling with COVID

could also just go behind someone's big fat ass and smell a big fart. Now, why does the eyes have to be fat for the fart to smell bad? It doesn't. I should try that. I should not get until I try it. Now, Mike, how was that last sip? You just took a big last sip

and you didn't make the face. It wasn't a big last sip. Like, I can't get it all down. It's the Tabasco, too. This is all wrong. This is all fucked up. Mike, I'm going to make you a Bloody Mary

and I'm going to say, oh, yeah, there's no cattle products in there up. Mike, I'm going to make you a Bloody Mary and I'm going to say, oh yeah, there's no cattle products in there whatsoever. Good, good. No cattle products, good. You're going to take a sip and say, Tim, what is that dark, savory flavor?

And then I'll pop up and say, gotcha, bitch. No! I'm Johnny Knoxville. This is a jackass. Well, that's it for the Bullshot. Guys, we got some mail. Great. Chris asks, hey, Sloppy Boys,

the Beach Boys or the Beatles? For me, I choose the Beach Boys. Thanks. Chris. Oh, this is very good. I think i only know beatles i mean i know beach boys but like uh i'm a beatles fan same here i i know the beach boys only a fraction of how i know the beatles so that must mean i'm a bigger fan of the beatles are you i feel like you resist the the label beetle maniac but you do listen to a lot of beat Beatles. Are you, I feel like you resist the, the label Beatle maniac, but you do listen to a lot of Beatles,

don't you? Yeah. You know, I just don't like labels. So I am maniacal about the Beatles, but just don't, um, you know,

the Beatles are a better band. Sure. Brian Wilson is a genius. I probably don't choke me on this one i probably listen to the beach boys more because the beatles it's just such a thing you can't just put them on it's like putting on the middle of a movie or something and i feel like my favorite artist is bruce springsteen but i rarely listen to him because you can't listen to bruce in the background you gotta you gotta sit down and you have to well songs are so long too bruce yeah tim i remember when we were discussing

the bgs and you said you don't like harmony and you tell me that you love the beach boys now you love harmony god geez, someone help me square this. Help me understand what's going on, Tim. I guess if I were to explain it, I would say you called me out on a lie and I'm fucked. That did seem like, I don't like Melody, seemed like you were just trying to get people to engage online with you. Well, it worked because my DMs are. You were trolling people. No, I, well, look. line with you um well it works because my people um i know i i well look yeah maybe i'm lied because the beach the beach boys are a harmony band but there's something about harmony when it's just for

no reason that it's like oh now it's the chorus let's stack all the dudes and you know my favorite vocalists are never actually good vocalists. They're just people who their voice rings true. So when you pile a bunch of, oh, I got Crosby. Yeah, bringing stills. Oh, a little Nash. Oh, how about throw Young in there? Not for too long. Just give me Neil Young.

All those other guys are buffoons, and Neil Young is the only good guy I want to hear. So there's that. There you go. Chris, so wait, what's the final tally? We all said Beatles? Yeah.

No. Oh, we all did say Beatles? No, I lied a little bit and then I admitted that I listened to Beach Boys more, but the Beatles are a way better band. Come on. The Beatles to me are more,

there's more stuff going on. The Beach Boys, I mean, I shouldn't say that because the Beach Boys have a lot of stuff going on as well, but they're like poppy sound. I think it's the harmonies in the Beach Boys that make me not really like it. Keep going with the Beach Boys because, you know, our good buddy, I mean, Zeroukian is a big kind of later day Beach Boys fan. And there's some very funny

Brian Wilson, Brian Wilson, even before he left. And then the guys without Brian Wilson, it's, it's a wonderful world, but it's novelty music. Well, I, my, my top song of my Spotify 2020 list was a Beach Boys song that I'd never heard before called Busy Doing Nothing. And I heard a cover of it and then I was like, Oh, this is a good song. And I heard the original and it's a, it's a fun little relaxing song. Yeah. Both great bands. And also Chris, way to go. I feel like the Beatles versus Stones thing is always the thing that people throw around. And this is refreshing. Yeah.

And honestly, more appropriate. Like, Beach Boys and Beatles are way more, I don't know, sonically similar or something than like, the Stones just are just, they kind of seem like the jocks or something they're just like all attitude and not as much uh songwriting in the whiskey and actually they're chugging the tequila sunrises but they're they're blues dudes yeah we brought tequila sunrises up twice uh this episode we should probably do another episode on tequila

sunrise well i feel like both uh both both the Beatles and the Stones were like, we like American blues, and we're kind of like doing it in this rocking sort of way. And then the Beatles started doing more and different things and have an entire arc of their career, and the Stones were like, we're just going to keep doing that. What about

Ruby Tuesday, Jeff? Oh, the one that sounds like a Beatlesles ripoff yeah that one's uh okay oh maybe my favorite stone song golly no no no it's not what about street fighting man what about jumping jack flash oh shit i forgot to tell you oh man i was gonna bring this up earlier in the podcast uh something that happened to me this week i'll do or last week i'll it this week anyway, because I'll probably forget to bring it up next week. So I was on the subway the other day, and walking down the little stairs to get on the subway. What a New Yorker, huh, Tim?

Yeah, I know. I don't do any of this shit. Let me guess, you passed the bodega. I passed a few, Jeff, as a matter of fact. I had to get out of the way of one of those rocketing yellow taxis. Almost took my shoe off. I was walking there. Yeah.

Hey, I was walking right there. No, but who do I see? But Debbie Gibson. No way. Yeah. She was like, we were waiting for the same same train and she was like a little farther but when the train pulled up like we were going for the same uh door and uh she i was like okay i'm not like uh debbie gibson fan or anything i know she exists and she was a pop star but i recognized

her and uh as we're getting on the train she was like really just like bolted in front of me and kind of like pushed me out of the way to get in and i and then i was i was pissed train she was like really just like bolted in front of me and kind of like pushed me out of the way to get in and i and then i was i was pissed and i was like yes yes yeah i mean yes that was my little interaction i couldn't believe Well, if you've got a question for the boys, email us at thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. I hope we answered your question, Chris. Sure we did. And thank you, Matt W., for writing us about the science behind copper cups.

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