The Sloppy Boys - 184. Zapp's Voodoo Bloody Mary

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

The guys sit around gathering dust... to bring you the thrill of a lifetime! Zapp's Voodoo Bloody Mary Pretzel Stix are available in select stores.RECIPE: 2oz/60ml VODKA4oz/120ml TOMATO JUICE.7oz.../20ml LEMON JUICE2 dashes WORCESTERSHIRE1/4 tsp each CREOLE SEASONING, CAYENNE, PAPRIKA, GARLIC POWDER Rim a highball glass with the dust from Zapp's Voodoo Pretzel Stix.Add ice, then ingredients and stir to combine. Garnish with pickled okra and shrimp.Recipe via Dutts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford and Tim Kalpakis. What is up? We are your hosts, the Sloppy Boys Band, with another beautiful, very special episode. Chilling tale of drinks. Timeless integrity. We're in the same room. I'm still in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Explains the smell. Was that me or Tim? No. The combo. I think it's the combo. It's just a little pod joke. Okay, okay, okay. Well, Tim, I do want to say, doesn't look like you're going to smell that guy.
Starting point is 00:00:46 New haircut. Yeah, you can't smell him. Very nice. All the stinky hair is cut off. All that's gone. Very nice fitting pant and a Sperry boat shoe. A Sperry boat shoe. It's that time.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's that time of year. We're getting there. You know what? The Sperry boat shoe with no sock is where the allure is that I was coming to this. We often sort of hot box this apartment with breath while we're recording. Yes. I knew I was going to get kind of sweaty. And farts.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Mm-hmm. And I thought, you know what would be nice, Tim, is to not be wearing socks, have a bare ankle while you're podcasting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. And, Meeland, for this episode, leave in the farts. Yeah, come on. Give the people a chance.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Yeah, here's a few right here. Meeland, put in some real fart sounds Of your own But this is a very special episode I mentioned it up top, but it was true This is exciting Special as in when we get to the drink Or special as now? Special as in when we get to the drink
Starting point is 00:01:42 It's the culmination of a journey, but we're not there yet No, but I have something special in other ways it's not just that i have a hair kind of well-fitting pants and a sperry boat shoe but i've got a i think this came up on the pot i have a sweater oh yes i've been trying to claw this off this guy's hands came up on the show right yes yep and on the text chain even more but they don't know that they don't know that i bought a d-pop middle of the night purchase i got a vintage white v-neck molson beer sweater it arrived it was too small on me it's been sitting in my closet for a year so i said michael oh i actually have two of them i have another one that's also too tight but
Starting point is 00:02:22 it's uh it's closer to fitting it's so it's it's like your gold sweater that's also too tight, but it's closer to fitting. That's like your glass sweater. That's a gold sweater. It's Thinspiration for me. I have a bunch of Thinspiration t-shirts that do not fit me anymore. Let's see how Michael fares with that. I'll show it to the camera for any YouTube viewers. A white sweater.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That's good. Now, you said you were going to maybe put a polo on underneath this thing. I might. Right now, I'm just going to try it on. Oh, yeah. See, the thing is, it's a thin sweater. It's a thin sweater. It's a large one because it's vintage.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's kind of smaller than a typical. Oh, it's soft as hell. It's soft. Oh, boy. See, on you, it has sort of an elegant rich guy kind of look. That's a good one. Well, I kind of carry myself with a bit of a bum It's just that riz That you got
Starting point is 00:03:09 Look at that it looks good It does look good Especially with the white under it Because I feel like you'd be seeing through that thing If you get too crazy with it You know when you see old pictures of Dads at a School plays or something it's like
Starting point is 00:03:25 no that guy can see his shirt right through his sweater it's like the flash does not do them any help on the uh christmas vacation uh what's his name eddie eddie is wearing a fake turtleneck like a dickie under a white sweater and you could just see the square oh yeah i have one of those by the way and i was wearing it over christmas and it's great because and for a sweaty guy if i'm wearing a sweater i could never wear a full turtleneck underneath it yeah but if you just do the fake thing nobody is none the wiser this is awesome and also it says molson uh 1786 to 1986 so this was made in 86 1986 the year the mets won the World Series. Toronto.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's made in Toronto. All right. Oh, Tim, actually, you know what? Now we're exchanging clothing. You know that big floral thing I was wearing the other day? Yeah. You want it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It's yours. Look at this. I just kept seeing myself in that. It was too billowy. I just couldn't get it. Mike's getting hand-me-downs. I'm getting hand-me-ups. I guess I'll just wear my own clothes that I purchased. downs I'm getting hand-me-downs.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I guess I'll just wear my own clothes that I purchased. Jeff, I don't have stuff with space logos all over it and mechs from different animes. Okay. Now that I know that, I feel better. Actually, I have quite a few and they fit me right. They fit Jeff even better.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Alright. Mech. Enough shit chat. Is that enough shit chat? Fine fine for me i'm sure more will come up let's get into a bunch of shit to talk about yeah we do we certainly love to talk me only about 33 of the show but you guys love to just gab gab you guys love to use up that other 66 percent however have you heard the term yapper that's like a it's like a gen z thing now i mean it's it's been a term i've just noted from life pre-gen z well what's it what does it mean gen z just like a yapper just somebody talks a lot yeah it's like someone who talks uh ad nauseum
Starting point is 00:05:19 and without uh what's what's the word talks a lot and without and without consequence without substance uh what do we call trump a yapper yeah sure but like gen z is kind of thrown around the What's the word? Talks a lot and without consequence, without substance. What do we call Trump a yapper? Yeah, sure. But like Gen Z is kind of thrown around the word yap and yapper and stuff. I mean, I've said yap before. It was yapping. Yeah, it's not a new thing. You know, it's a good one. Pretty brutal. And we're not like we we love the slop heads. They're a part of our life, a part of our community. But are you familiar with um uh uh phoebe bridgers uh the punisher yes yeah what is that even when she's wearing the skeleton suit sometimes i think that um it's a punisher is someone that talks to her a yapper but it's like when she gets like cornered by a fan and then it
Starting point is 00:06:00 teeters past fandom into just like you're being greedy with my time. She calls those people punishers. Gotcha. I've heard this. Yeah. Well, I've made it very clear. If you ever see me out in public, don't talk to me. Don't look at me. Don't think about me.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And actually, don't be on the same street as me. Damn. Yep. If you see me, run. But I made that point very clear on the podcast. For me, if you see me, come up to me respectfully and say, Tim, how's your family? How's your friends? How you doing?
Starting point is 00:06:28 How you really doing? I'm kidding, of course. I like to say hello to people. But I do like when gifts are brought to me. If somebody sees me on the street and you have something to give me, that's helpful. That's a good way in. Change. A few swipes on an old Dave and Buster's card. Anything you got on me that's helpful that's a good way in change a few swipes on an old dave
Starting point is 00:06:46 and buster's card anything you got on you that's useful to me if it's not useful i send you packing yeah right get the hell out i take cash i'll tell you what the way i just chugged the seltzer i was like boy i was more thirsty than i thought and i was like i guess i didn't drink anything all day today which means one of these episodes where the drink of the day is going to hit me real hard. I didn't eat much today either. Nor have I. I had some dried fruit, went for a run, am way out of shape, and then got back and ate something I'm calling a pita salad. Take a pita pocket, put your salad in there. You gussied it up though didn't you i did i put the green goddess avocado dressing yeah yeah it's all on the inside salad pickle uh tomato pickle that's all i had that's nice yeah it's good we still have tomatoes in the fridge yes oh yeah good
Starting point is 00:07:37 when you're used to eating uh i had a 30 tomato salad um you left some cherry tomatoes over my place too you're on a tomato kick You're used to eating... I had a 30 tomato salad. You love some cherry tomatoes over at my place, too. You're on a tomato kick. He's got grape tomatoes over here. Yeah, grape tomatoes over here. Cherry tomatoes. I got the whole fruit lineage lined up.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But only in tomato form. What's a beefsteak tomato? That's the big one? Beef. Yeah. Yeah. So every tomato refers to another food item. Yeah, just be be a tomato just don't be afraid to be a tomato heirloom okay that's nice those are the nice ones those are the nice ones uh we were just talking beefsteak that just is steak right
Starting point is 00:08:18 yeah tomato well beefsteak tomato but like remember there was like a it still happens every year in hancock park there's like a harvardy tv writery yeah called beefsteak and yeah it's and a beefsteak is just it was just a steak because you could say ham steak or a swordfish steak sure i bet that the the the steaks they're eating there it's like probably like these are strip steaks or sirloins or yeah i don't think it's yeah it's kind of funny to say beefsteak like you would say i want a tenderloin beefsteak you're right because you just think of steak as the steak now we're i'm an emmy nominated writer two-time wga nominee why am i not i've never been invited this thing you guys ever been
Starting point is 00:08:59 invited to beefsteak no i think these people know i do not know I do not eat very cleanly. I don't fly in the foods flying all over the place. But I think... Those are nasty. I think they put in a bib and you eat with your hands. You go with your hands. I could be... You could be a shoe in.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Why don't they have me there? I would love it. You'd steal his spotlight. I definitely wouldn't wear this. This is going to be challenging to this white sweater. At Beefsteak? At any steak I'm going to be getting this thing dirtied At Beefsteak at any steak
Starting point is 00:09:29 Speaking of steak We have plans at some point In life to go eat at Keene's We have a reservation, we are not saying the date or time Good Let's just give the time Alright
Starting point is 00:09:44 No, because it's pretty easy to figure out um um jeff this place now last time we were in new york we ate at um it was the first time for me at the old homestead steakhouse yeah and that was funny because it was sort of impromptu it was like hey we got a few minutes to kill between sound check and showtime which around here the old homestead steakhouse very quickly like i guess a martini and a steak some of the only people in the restaurant if i remember it was early it was like 5 30 yeah yeah we were actually we had to sit at the bar for a little bit even i think we should go to keen's early and go to the bar yes i've never hung out the bar there it's cool it it looks very i've never i've only eaten there once and it was actually my 35th
Starting point is 00:10:30 birthday the very night of my 35th birthday my family we ate at keen's and this is a place jeff teddy roosevelt ate at this place there's pipes on the walls from all of the greatest guys yeah pipes on the walls from all of the greatest guys. Pipes on the walls from all the greatest guys? Smoking pipes. Oh, okay. You're going to love it, Jeff. It's you're going to love it. Pipes on the walls from all the greatest guys?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Copper pipes? What the hell are you talking about? And it was one of these funny dinners where we got, I think we got a couple of like big like T-bones to split for the table or whatever. But my brother kind of does the thing that i do at muso and frank where he likes to order something weird that sounds like that sounds funny he's a nasty boy he's a nasty boy he's the original nasty boy he ordered mutton oh right you know which was it good it's like i first heard of it on seinfeld yeah yeah um
Starting point is 00:11:21 i i never seen it but I picture something and I can picture the taste in my mouth too, if that makes sense. I think that basically, I could be wrong, that I think that lamb of a certain age, because I ate at a Michelin star restaurant in Edinburgh,
Starting point is 00:11:39 Scotland one time, and then I ate some lamb that had a different name that was like, I think they named it by the number you're done anyway this one was a giant mound and uh it was a little on the bland side and not as fun as the other stuff on the table so we just had a huge mountain of mutton or like well there you go it's probably he's probably the only person that week that ordered the mutton so like give him a big piece well this will be my fourth time going to keen so i am i might go a little wacky on the menu for games i wish i was me first i'm first time playing it very conservative you're gonna have a great time very timid you both will yeah
Starting point is 00:12:14 um and the reason of course why we're going to be at keens in new york city is because we're playing at the little field uh on the 10th yes to play in two sets and the night before that on the 10th. Yes. Playing two sets. And the night before that, on the 9th, we are showing our movie Blood, Sweat, and Beers. Or how the Sloppy Boys recorded an album in El Paso, Texas. West Texas. On a farm in West Texas.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Out in West Texas, town of El Paso. Hey, did we talk about that we went to that place? No, we should. But let me just get this last thing out. On May 9th, we're going to be showing our movie documentary made about us, directed by the great Robert Olguin. At Chelsea Music Hall. Get those tickets, baby. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I think Vinny told me tickets are $20, but then if you want to sit in the first three rows, you can get a VIP ticket for $30. Give a little look at that screen. And we're probably going to answer some questions. We're going to intro it. We're going to answer some questions. We're going to intro it. We're going to answer some questions. We might ask some questions. We might ask some questions. You, what's your deal?
Starting point is 00:13:10 How did you make this thing? You got any movies, dude? We'll ask Robert that. We'll ask Robert how he made it. How did you do this? All right, is that it for boozers? No, there was a tangent I was going to go on. You were going to go on a tangent about...
Starting point is 00:13:23 We were talking about... Oh, uh... We went to go on. You were going to go on a tangent about, we were talking about, oh, we went to that restaurant. Yes. When we were in El Paso, I wanted to go to a bar that is the bar from the Marty Robbins song, El Paso,
Starting point is 00:13:41 out in the West Texas town of El Paso, which I think I, i like i heard that song in breaking bad but i mainly know that song from grateful dead covers because it's a it's a bob weir favorite and they play it live constantly um but they i think it's rosa's cantina and uh i was like we gotta go to this place and it was just a kind of whatever run to the mill bar but it was exciting to get to go to the place and sit there and we had some big fat like frozen margaritas and big fat glasses i must have left before that i think i left was i there you were there we talked about how we would distribute the movie damn we were all partied out i'm remembering the
Starting point is 00:14:20 goal the room afterward no because remember i left really early the last day because you guys kept me up with karaoke. Oh, he did fly out earlier than us. Okay. Karaoke though. Yeah, karaoke is where you heard me say, like someone was like let the girls sing. They have good voices. And I said I have a good voice too. And did not let up after
Starting point is 00:14:40 the whole song. And it was me going, I'm drunk in the back of the car and I cried on the way home from the bar From the bar Can we please get to Booze News Now it's time Booze News Hit it
Starting point is 00:14:55 Chill out What you yelling for Lay back it's all been done before And if you could Only let it be I'm Wendy Why is the beef so complicated? I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else
Starting point is 00:15:16 Ain't you heard about Wendy's? I act like this, you You fall and you crawl and you break And you take what you get And you don't forget about me okay so wendy levine was sent to us by Slophead Andy Ellison. And in his email, he said, you know, I'm actually a musician and I've been wanting to write and record a song. But for now, this mashup will have to do.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Okay. But then enter Slophead. What's his name? Krebix. And this is when I was checking the inbox. I opened up an email from Crevix. Hold on. Listen to Crevix. He had Backstreet Boys first.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And he was like, everywhere there's McDonald's, there's Burger King. And Avril Lavigne's like, ain't you heard about Wendy's? Why is the beef so complicated? Backstreet equals Mickey D's And Zink must be Burger King I guess that would make Avril Lavigne Wendy's a pageant award Where music will acts
Starting point is 00:16:37 Somehow become fast food restaurants What kind of song would Avril Lavigne be singing? Probably Why'd you go with love to be somewhere complicated? I'm seeing not much beef on the bun and that's getting me frustrated. If I may remind you, in this hypothetical world where musicians are restaurants and brothers weddings. That's why she's singing this song about where the beef is. It's business you say, last day boy. Damn. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Damn. Moving. We've established group mind. Groovement first, now group mind. Just doubly ensuring that the episode is not monetizable on YouTube. I can see the ticker going of how long this is going to be playing. Why are we doing video again? Bye video.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Bye video. Bye bye. Here's the thing. I want to do this stuff. I don't want to ban mashups. No, you like to be a party pooper. I don't want to ban bruises. No, I say video, video, go bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Video got to go. Video got to go for the best of the show. Damn. Don't you think? How about this? A couple weeks ago, we posted our music video for Yuppie Man on TikTok. Yeah. And TikTok muted it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. Our own song. Wait, muted it? Yeah, the video's there, but it muted and we but we own it i think we fixed it but i love that but still but still the point remains the point remains that is uh yeah youtube not a friend to the artist huh uh yeah i guess well beast man they like beast man what's his name mr beast beast man beast man they like beast man quite a bit they like beast man mr beast is so funny it's the perfect example of a thing that like if you're outside of it you know
Starting point is 00:18:32 like i i have a general idea of who mr beast is but i wouldn't recognize him and i've never watched one of the videos and it's like that's what the whole rest of the world is doing all the time and i'm like huh well no i feel like more people are looking at uh mr beast feastables at the grocery store and going who's that random guy who came up with his own what are the feastables like those granola bars or like health bars or whatever and you just see like a picture of a smiling i've seen those dude and it's like who's this who's this mascot he's mr b but i think he has like billions of followers, right? Like I think they would know. Yeah, but he does a bunch of stunts where he gives out like millions of dollars and stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And he did like his own squid game thing. Okay. Squidward. But most people I think are confused by Mr. Beast like us. Yeah. The common man is. I would like to have him on the show and talk to him. I'd love to find out what makes him tick, yeah? Yeah. We have him on Mr. Beast. We're not familiar. What are you up to?
Starting point is 00:19:27 Who sent in that second one? Krebex. Krebex? K-R-E-B-E-X. Krebex. Now that sounds to me like when you order something off Amazon and it's like, yeah, grab this gooseneck that will hold up your iPhone.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It's Krebex brand. Brands you've never heard of. They all look the same. And then, up your iPhone. It's Krebix brand. Yeah. Brands you ever heard. They all look the same. And then, Hey, it looks exactly like the Muto brand. I had one of those recently where I was, I ordered a shirt from Instagram,
Starting point is 00:19:53 like one of my pop-up ads. I was like, well, that's a nice shirt and ordered it. Then weeks later it had never come. So I was like, huh? I went,
Starting point is 00:20:01 whatever happened to that? And I tried to search my email and I was like, I don't know what company that was. You know, I was like, there's no way of finding out. And then I was like, just searching for shirt and I couldn't find it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Then I like went to my like credit card statement, like online. And I saw, and I said, gotcha by Krebic. Well, I found it like that. It was like,
Starting point is 00:20:21 it was called like, you've been had at Atlanta or something like, like Atlanta, but with an L. But then when I looked at it, the same shirt was also sold by a company called Jolly Pop because it's like the shirts, not the shirt. You're like, yeah, it's made at some sweatshop. And then it's just some Instagram sellers selling it. So I still, um, I did, I never got to the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And when I was leaving home to come here today, there was a package on my stoop. I threw it inside, but I'm hoping it was that shirt damn i bought on uh instagram did you ever see those loop lassos it's like string on this little oh yeah and it's like motorized yeah it just sort of goes in a circle i bought one of those for uh my nephews and niece for christmas yeah they enjoyed it for a few minutes and it was difficult to do uh but that was one where i definitely was like i see hit purchase that was one where i definitely was like i hit purchase i was like i don't know if that's ever gonna come here i don't know where it's come from or it will come but i certainly did get email after email about how my use of it was
Starting point is 00:21:14 and did you say it was wonderful i said it was wonderful can we talk more about this on the phone um here's the top story in booze news this was sent to us by ace of spades on the discord the ace of spades let me himself motorhead let me he hung out at the rainbow barn grill much like us is let me a guy i know he's he died a couple years ago is he a guy who has a bad background anti-semitic maybe maybe some right-leaning. I don't know. He certainly looks the type. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Sure. Sure. You never, but it's, that's what's weird. You never know with a guy like that, because it's like, you can't judge a book by its cover.
Starting point is 00:21:55 He seems like an angry old man. So yeah, that adds up. Right. But then being like a punk rocker is weird because you could, there are skinhead punk rockers. But then there's other punk rockers that are like, you know the opposite of that yeah i'm looking them up he's clean that was it you did a deep dive police record um oh this is my favorite dog. Just a little barker outside. Well, but he's such a cute little fella.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Was Ace of Spades in Tony Hawk or perhaps Dave Mirra BMX, the video game? I think maybe it was in one of the Tony Hawks. I remember shredding to the Ace of Spades. If you want an action, you know what I need. He was a bass player. Let me. So that's why you have such a kinship with him. Yeah. But I saw a video of him recently, he plays it like he's like strumming the bass right he has a
Starting point is 00:22:51 really cool solo in that song where he's and it's very picky sounding cool um okay so uh ace of spades who by the way is on our discord if you want to get access to the discord and befriend people, I guess, this page, you subscribe to the sloppy boys.com slash the Patriots. No, the Patriot.com slash the sloppy. We should, uh, sloppy boys.com.
Starting point is 00:23:14 We should add a backslash, uh, Patreon just in case we won't get it. Cover bases backwards. Um, okay. Uh, so the story is there
Starting point is 00:23:25 Starbucks Reserve right yeah the fancy one the fancy one with the hats so they've made an olive oil thing
Starting point is 00:23:32 coffee now they're going even further you referred to Olito Olito Olito did that stick around
Starting point is 00:23:40 I tried it and it was like if I'm not into it then no one's gonna and I only had it once and I was like I get it I get it you know it's cause if I'm not into it, then no one's into it. And I only had it once and I was like, I get it. I get it. You know, it's because some people love putting the butter in their coffee.
Starting point is 00:23:49 What do you call that? Bulletproof coffee? Oh, no. Bulletproof. I've heard of that. It was like that. You're drinking a fatty coffee. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 00:23:57 But also congeal the top. It was like the top. My drink was iced, so it was just yellow ice on top. But they have a new drink that is they're they're pushing oh we've got some hot honey drinks one of them is a hot yeah jeff you're a hot honey guy right yeah i had some zabs a minute ago zabs brought it to mitch's left it there they brought it in order to put on pizza right yeah pepperoni with the cups um well hot honey is is a hip trendy condiment at the moment.
Starting point is 00:24:25 They came out with a couple of drinks, but one of them is a hot honey espresso martini. Alcoholic martini with coffee and honey and chili. A spicy chili. Oh, that's the hot one.
Starting point is 00:24:40 But it said it must be 21 or over to order, and I was like, you know, I'm eating my sous vide egg bites at starbucks reserve all the time and i didn't know they had booze there but i i google i thought maybe this was a new thing i google they've been selling different espresso martinis for a year they had the espresso martini then they had a peppermint mocha espresso martini they had a pumpkin spice espresso they swap them out or they just add to the list they swap them out seasonally but then you can get a flight of a couple different ones oh we gotta do that you got oh we should go do it there we should just do it only the reserve right only the reserve but i thought they were only doing this in like japan or something but
Starting point is 00:25:20 oh i think all reserves there's a huge uh starbucks reserve across from the chelsea music hall where we're playing uh showing our movie on may 9. There's that huge Starbucks reserve across from the Chelsea Music Hall where we're playing, showing our movie on May 9th. Oh! Remember that huge one? Yeah, what was the incident that happened? You dropped it. You waited a long time for a drink.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And then you dropped it. Somebody opened the door and you slashed it. They were like, we'll make you another one. You were like, never mind, it's too late. You know when you're in a bad mood and people are trying to fuss over you a little too much? Like one too many people were like, oh, we'll get you another drink. And I was like, I'd rather be sad.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Well, that was, yeah, they gave us the option. Like I just got a tea or something. But for yours, it was like, do you want to go around the other side of the counter and watch it be made? Okay. Yeah. It was a real process. So it took forever. Like they sidelined my drink because I wanted to watch it. And I said, said i was like i'm going to the van because i think i was driving so i went
Starting point is 00:26:07 to the van what did you order that was so involved i think i just got something kind of normal uh i think it was a iced latte you think the you think if you got it without the little show it would have been quicker and then with the show it's like now we got to show off a little bit use all our shiny equipment i do think it was that and and i think it was a silly thing for me to do. And then also that I was embarrassed. The incident was also me being a wimpy California guy in the mean streets of New York because I'm walking out, the door was closing in my face and I used my,
Starting point is 00:26:41 my cup holding arm. I just held out the elbow to try to hold the door open for myself and this big heavy New York winter door slammed into me and whacked my arm and knocked the coffee out of my hand. That's thick wood.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That sucks. Now I'm sure when I lived on the East Coast, I knew I would probably be stiff arming that with the other hand. Fucking Heisman style. So it was my fault and I was sad and then I do remember just it's funny because I'm like, no, I don't want another
Starting point is 00:27:14 coffee. Then I'm sitting in the van like uncaffeinated, hungover, grumpy, tired. Like why did I not get a free coffee? Trying to suck the coffee spill off your shirt. Oh, that's no good. Do you guys get headaches if you don't have caffeine?
Starting point is 00:27:32 No. No. I also learned I have energy in the morning. I actually don't need coffee. I wake up with energy and I can go. But I like to sit in bed and be on my little phone and drink about a cup and a half. And then I make eggs and take a shower. And I like to sit in bed and be on my little phone and drink about a cup and a half. And then I make eggs and take a shower. I like to milk that morning.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm awake, but I'm not out of bed yet. I milk it as long as I can. That's an after 30 thing for me, man. Before 30, I would be, before age 30, not time 30, I would wake up, throw on jeans and sneakers immediately. No iPhones. Maybe iPhones, but not as involved. Our lives weren't connected to them. I feel like I was ready to attack the world when I woke up at a younger age.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But this little thing we keep in our pocket has trained us to not attack. Let them attack. We'll purchase, purchase. Ooh. Purchase power. Interesting stuff. Was that it for Booze News? No, I've got a little piece of Booze News.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Oh. Now, my parents just did a little cruise. They and some of their other, some friends of theirs went on a cruise to Nassau. Oh, the Bahamas, baby. Okay. And they brought back for us. I've been to Nassau. One of them got a little squished in my traveling.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Rum cake, Bahamian. Bahama rum cakeished in my traveling. Rum cake. Bahamian. Bahama rum cake. Pina colada rum cake. And coconut rum cake. That looks beautiful. We can try if we want. That looks like a nice heavy cake.
Starting point is 00:28:57 This one I think had a little. It's a ring cake. A bunt style. Little ring cake bunt style. And yeah, we can give these a whirl. I tried one. It came in a big package of a bunch of them. And I tried one. Nice. I love a bunt style. Little ring cake bunt style. And yeah, we can give these a whirl. I tried one. It came in a big package of a bunch of them, and I tried one. Nice.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I love a bunt. Have you ever had that place, Nothing Bunt Cakes? I've heard of it. No, you told me about it. It's good. I've laughed at the pun. Is there one in LA? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Now, should we do these now? This is your plan. Oh, yeah. Let's do it. Yeah, oh, yeah. We've got a knife right here. You can chop it up. I just pull the knife
Starting point is 00:29:25 here that looks good i recently had a jamaican rum cake at a farmer's market and it was so it was moist and dense and delicious yeah baby oh it sounds gross but it tastes good a wet cake yeah it's that thing that sounds good. I hate a dry cake. Yeah. Anything bready, I don't want to think about it being wet-ish. There used to be a sub shop at the Ithaca Towers Dining Hall
Starting point is 00:29:55 and the bread would always still be a little undercooked and wet and clammy. All right. Forgotten which is which. This one, I'll tell you. That's coconut. Yeah, that's coconut.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's the pina colada. Is that what the other one was? Whichever one doesn't have pineapple taste, that's the coconut. Because the pina colada will have coconut taste. Pina colada is more smooshy. Yeah, that one. Oh, that's good. Wet.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Am I knackering? I'm good. I'm not going to eat it anymore right now. It's like pound cake with a nice twang. Wet. Am I knackering? I'm good. I'm not going to eat it anymore right now. It's like pound cake with a nice twang. Marinated in old Nassau Bahamian rum. Okay. So it's marinated. So they bake this cake and then they submerge it.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. Now, does this actually have... I guess it would burn a lot but that's good maybe it wouldn't burn off if they'd marinated or maybe I think it would say if it had alcohol in it oh contains less than 4% alcohol 4% huh mm-hmm it proof okay you gotta eat the whole cake though to have to have basically a beer's worth. I just put it over there for now, too. This is delicious. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:09 There you go. It reminds me of like, you know, when you go to the gas station and get like one of those crawlers or something that's in the package, you pull it out. It's just like sopping wet. Yeah. These are better, but yeah. That's what I'm saying I avoid is the sopping wet, bready, cakey shit. I actually... I like Danish.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You should be more like me. I recently bought some Hostess Bundt cakes that were lemon Bundt cakes, and I put them in my fridge. So I had a nice, cold, little lemony Bundt cake when I was in the mood. A Hostess. Remember that Sprite cake somebody, Ben Axelrad brought to something of ours? Yeah, that was good. Maybe it was even Thanksgiving. He got like a, yeah, it tastes like Sprite.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It was a bun cake that. Yeah, that's where it gets its like sugar and its moisture from. Yeah. I ate that because I know I had baked a Starry cake that year. Oh, yeah. Sorry, not Starry. Damn. Wait, Starry is Sierra Mist mist right yes but i think they did
Starting point is 00:32:08 they changed the recipe i like starry and sierra mist i remember not loving a discerning uh on cola drinker but i'm still into this right it feels like they were for two decades or however long sierra mist was around they were trying to beat that name because they're like it's such a ripoff of Mountain Dew. Sierra Mist, we've got to come up with something better. Yeah, true. Wow, I didn't really need it. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:32:29 It's really one-to-one. Yeah. It's a large thing that comes out of the earth and a moist thing. Well, they had Mesa Fog for a while. Or like Vapor Dew. You know, Plateau Damp. Himalayan Drizzle. Himalayan Fine, Fine Drizzle.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Fine Drizzle. Fine Drizzle. All right, is that it for Booze News? Wrap it up. That's it for Booze News. Can we talk about the drink of the day, please? This is exciting. I would love that.
Starting point is 00:33:05 The culmination of a long journey for the J-Man. Yeah. Folks, boys, as you know, I've been gathering dust. Gathering dust. But not in the way that one typically gathers dust. Not in a bad way. Not in a bad way. I'm talking Zapp's Vodoo pretzel stick dust the fine fine mustardy
Starting point is 00:33:29 vinegary barbecuey catch-all dust that you find at the bottom of a nice thing as zaps this was a snack that was like my go-to snack for a minute it was a staple now zaps pretzels is a dusty little pretzel isn't it yes it's coated coated what would you describe it because i don't know it's just coated it's like a tangy sand all over their pretzel like what other type of you know because maybe some people don't have zaps like there was those like snyder pretzel nibblers remember those those kind of have the same consistency dust a lot of times just trying to paint a picture paint a picture so but yeah i mean initially it's the the beloved chip is zaps voodoo potato chips yes
Starting point is 00:34:05 which i used to get excited when we'd be on tour in the south or something i'd be like guys they got voodoo and then like now they're all over they're all over the place and specifically every bar now has a bunch of voodoo chips behind the bar for sale so i feel like they did some sort of big promotion for that yeah um and the pretzel sticks taste similar but not the same i would say the pretzel sticks are very much like they're they're dots right dots brand pretzel sticks kind of they're not actually dots because they're a competitor because they're very it's a similar stick and bag similar form factor yes and and uh uh dots are delicious i love those too buttery no but here's the thing jay they've got cheese curls that have the pretzel dust on them and there's
Starting point is 00:34:52 a seal on the bag that says original pretzel dust is pretzel dust a thing now is this like a new thing i guess so i mean it is now but shit ahead, Jeff. I don't want to interrupt. Mike, you were up to your nuts and dust earlier today. He's helped me out, Timmy. That's right. So I said, what am I going to do with all this dust? One time, I put it in some tuna fish. Couldn't taste it. Not enough dust.
Starting point is 00:35:15 That's a strong taste. I said, I need more if I'm going to be applying this to something else. And then I thought, I'll just get the dust. I'll get the all, what they call it, Zapp's all-purpose seasoning, voodoo seasoning. Oh. They had it on the website. You can't get it. Sold out.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Sold out. Discontinued for years now. That's what I'm thinking. This pretzel dust thing is a thing. I know. They got to bring it back. Yeah. But in the meantime, a guy like me will just, every time I go to the supermarket, get a thing of the pretzels.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Finish it. Try and keep that dust safe. Put it up on the high shelf. Yeah, where the kids can't reach it. Every time Mike goes to the shelf because he's feeling snacky, he opens up and goes, ooh, voodoo pretzels. And I say, Mike, help yourself to the pretzels. Leave the dust. But they're all gone.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Oh, right. The decoy dust bags. That's no good. Because, you know, if you came here the other day, you'd find one bag, two bags, three bags, four, five, six, eight empty bags hidden in the cupboard. Yep. Jesus. And Mike, you and I went in there today and with a fine brush
Starting point is 00:36:26 like a craft brush we cut all the bags down like about an inch really all out all the dust i thought there would be enough dust just at the bottom of these bags when you see the amount of dust this is he's got it right here that's it's crazy yeah that's a lot of dust no it's not but for eight bags worth come on man but it seems like not a lot to me a little moisture but why were you advertising that you had so much dust if then you looked in the bags this is so much dust yeah okay more doesn't you got that's true this is how precious it is spice melange all right and so i said what we got to do with this is put it on the rim of a bloody mary so you can like fully taste it you don't want to just add it to something it'll probably get lost like in that tuna i mentioned so this way we all get a little
Starting point is 00:37:15 sip selectively you know what i'm saying and it's kind of a vinegary salty yeah yeah do we know the because i i saw some jokey explanation that was like we spilled all our all our seasonings and we created voodoo well it does kind of taste like you ever have chips that are like the works and it's just like all or all dressed that's yeah all dressed yeah um but i don't know i think that voodoo tastes like really sour to me so oh maybe that's coming from the salt and vinegar maybe it's all the dusts together but it's not as spicy zaps has some very hot flavors yeah they've got crazy flavors right they got crawdad spicy crawtater do they have a pickle one they have hotter than hot they do have a pickle one they do right yeah yeah they're good chips i think during when we're making this drink
Starting point is 00:38:00 i'm gonna pull one of the packages out of the garbage and read the ingredients um on air hell yeah by the way zaps reached out to us one time and was like hey we love that you love our chips we'll send you some product and then they never did hey and then i dm them recently i was like hey can you send us some voodoo dust we want shirts and hats that's what i can get the chips at the store practically shirts and hats can i tell you something tragic though? I tried so hard to get a fresh bag of zaps for the show. Yeah. I went to Vaughn's. No zaps.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Albertson's. No zaps. Ralph's. No zaps. No zaps. John's. No zaps. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:38:39 When you go to John's, you don't get no zaps. Target. No zaps. And in all these places, I see Snyder's. Oh, sure. I see Rolled Gold. Oh, yeah. I even see a fucking owl. Wise. Wise. Owl.
Starting point is 00:38:57 That's funny. Wise doesn't really promote. Don't need to. They're fine with what they... But here's the thing. Couldn't even find the price tag of where the zaps would be now where did you buy your eight bags then this is over time tim some of these are years old but what year were you going to what store were you going to in years of your albertsons okay my beloved albertsons and i thought oh word got out about Zaps. You can't get them anymore because they're so popular.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Now I'm concerned. Are they being edged out of the marketplace by the big dogs? I wonder if there's like a bartender's association that's like edging it out because they didn't want this type of thing to happen. They don't want that sort of competition there being shadow banned. Could be. Could be. Very well be. I couldn't even find the chips this is this is how bad it's gotten i had a bag of zaps voodoo chips today
Starting point is 00:39:52 at a grocery store at a bar um the zaps factory well actually i was at the um i didn't i just saw them at uh last night at tiki no you know that bar in the valley yeah great but then i think i got these ones i think i swiped them from work we had a spread of ike sandwiches and how listen to this i don't like this is the only maybe the only food in my you've mentioned this the only food i don't like on earth i found it ike's it's a sandwich chain never heard of it i've never heard of either chain in in here in la um it's a san diego based chain i think and uh it's like fusion this is what i don't like it's like halal chicken and wasabi mayo with the you know they're mixing stuff together but um i one of my my co-workers was like ike's is really good we should get it today for lunch and then while she was out of the room i tasted my sandwich i said this is disgusting i've never disliked my lunch
Starting point is 00:40:48 in my life and then she walked back in the room and everyone was like tim said it's disgusting it's the first time he ever didn't like his lunch oh no anyway what was the thing you didn't you also didn't like was raw mushrooms right you kind of didn't well i got better at it yeah i i said that i like all food in the world, but ranked dead last is raw mushrooms. And now after that. Yeah. And I still do eat. I would.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I mean, if you handed me like, so I would wolf it. I won't probably. But the other day we were at, I already knew I didn't like Ike's, but we were having like a work party and it was catered by Ike's. And I was sad. But then they had a bunch of a big big pile of Zapp's potato chips. So I filled my backpack with all the Zapp's. I said, I'm going to have my something out of this. I'm not taking the eggs, but I'm taking them.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I'm getting a sandwich's worth of potato chips. You know those New York deli chips? You ever see those? They're little, they're like a purple package. And it's got like New York deli and sort of like neon. I know New York seltzer in a little glass bottle. It's kind of that same thing. Let me find it for you so you can see.
Starting point is 00:41:52 All right. So I was going to bring in a Bloody Mary with a Zapps Voodoo Room. I think we're excited. We're excited about that. I was. I was like, this would be great. I wasn't. I can taste the Zapps.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You were. Well, because I said, what's your recipe? Jeff said he's going to use the normal IBA recipe for Bloody Mary and then just rim it with zaps. I'm like, I don't know if we can do an episode of the pod that's just a new rim on a drink we've already done. Yeah. But you were also tuning into your little Anthony Bourdain and saying, no, no, no. There's too many good spices in New Orleans to just do a normal thing. We got to do like a, we got to do an ode to New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:42:28 This is what happens when you go down there and walk around for 17 miles. I said, Tim, I've never been to New Orleans. I don't give a shit. I've been to the snack aisle at the supermarket. That's where this drink comes from. That's where you went. You got to walk 17 miles in my shoes, baby. But well, but here's where you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Which is rare. I'm about to pivot. i don't think that we should be like i i i was wrong if i thought was saying that we should bring in some other weird ass element because i was saying i said jeff in there the bloody marys are big in the south they got cajun bloody marys so if you made like a zaps take on that i get it but i certainly don't think there should be other weird bold flavors they're going to overpower the zaps okay but here's so here's the thing i think it did a happy medium what if it was zaps and zaps the hot honey and the dust zaps and zaps yeah what do you want to drink zaps and zaps give me a zap that should be your next thing that jeff fight out a zaps honey thing but i
Starting point is 00:43:24 we're like a hot honey thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, go ahead. So here's the thing. I went looking around for... I already told you about the hot honey espresso martini. Don't you listen to Booze News. I do.
Starting point is 00:43:33 That's what got me thinking about it. That's what got me thinking about it. No, no. I feel a little buzzed from that rum cake. Really? No way. Yeah. We got to eat food during the day.
Starting point is 00:43:43 We can't just eat pita salads. I ate that. I had those Zapp's potato chips. I don't know if that's it. Doing my research, I looked for Creole Bloody Mary, Cajun Bloody Mary. NewOrleans.com gave me a recipe that was exactly the fucking same as the IBA. And I said, no, I got to dig a little deeper. NewOrleans.com used the IBA.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I mean, pretty much nothing exciting about it. No smoked paprika, no cayenne pepper, none of that shit. We're getting a little glimpse into what's being done. But I did a little digging. TodayShow.com had a recipe. A bunch of craft blogs had recipes. But I just said, okay, I'm starting with a normal base. Lemon juice, tomato juice, Worcestershire. That's standard. Classic. But the spices, that's where I wanted to pivot. So I said to myself, no horseradish, no black pepper.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Where are we getting our heat from? From pretzels, baby. From pretzels. In the drink itself, I tried a whole bunch of seasonings. Some of them were just listed as are just Creole seasonings. Like that chef guy. What's the... I'll tell you when we get, when we
Starting point is 00:44:51 bring it over here. Paul Prudhoe? It was like Tony... Dom DeMello? Tony Cecchoni or something like that. Oh, the bald guy? Yeah, the little cartoon. What? The little cartoon? He's a cartoon guy? Yeah, he's a little cartoon. Chef Boyardee? He's a cartoon guy? Yeah, he's a little cartoon. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Chef Boyardee? Who was I just saying? Dom DeMello, is he a guy? Dom DeLuise? Dom DeLuise is a guy. Dom DeLuise is a comedian? I think you're picturing there is a guy. I want to say his name is Paul Prudeau, but he looks like Dom DeLuise.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Okay, that's probably right. Can I see the fucking recipe, please? Please, please, please, please. We are late here today. We are 47 minutes in. Looks like that's not Paul Prudhoe. I'll never find it. This is all cuttable anyway.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Tim, don't worry about it. Here's the final recipe. I made a batch, but this is what's in each drink for people at home to follow along. Two ounce vodka. Four ounce tomato juice. Point seven ounce chouasse de lemon. Lemon juice.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Two dash Worcestershire. Now so far we're in familiar territory. Yeah, pretty standard stuff. Here's where it gets weird. Half teaspoon Creole seasoning. Okay. Now this was like a spicy salt, but I didn't want to just dash in Creole seasoning and be like, there we go. I know this stuff. This is like a red canister kind of right? Close green
Starting point is 00:46:13 with clear. When I was hanging out with our friend, Ben Axelrod recently, he had this like this, this, uh, Creole seasoning. And he was like, this is really famous. I was like, I've never had it before. There's so much of this in there because I liked the taste of it. Like I did pinches to the mouth of each of these. This one tasted mostly like a Lowry's. It's like mostly salt. So the rest of these are peppers.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Quarter teaspoon cayenne powder. Quarter teaspoon smoked paprika. Quarter teaspoon garlic powder. Oh my how about that he he was i was i watched him last night in the test kitchen it was so you went down on the bayou i went down on the bayou what do we call is this is this dutton's creole bloody mary what is this called zaps voodoo bloody mary i don't want to take the spotlight tim this is about the zaps but you but you have innovated with your whole entire drink. I would have put my name, Hanford, in Big Life.
Starting point is 00:47:09 The Hanford drink. All right. Guys, what if it sucks? That's true. Distance yourself from that problem. You haven't tasted it yet. I have. I have.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I have. But here we go. Off to make it. What? Any garnishes? The garnishes are a surprise, Mike. Strike that from the record, Milan. No, no, no. That's fine. You want to make these um yeah look i found the guy mike it's paul prudhomme h o home
Starting point is 00:47:32 yeah that's the guy i've heard of him uh this book we're on the same era as dom de luise but i've seen him yeah well they look exactly the same but uh this book chef paul prudhomme's uh louisiana kitchen he's standing in front of a bunch of sausages and they look like a grass skirt. Yeah. Google it, folks. It kind of looks like the chef from Ratatouille without the finger. My brother has this book. It's great.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Damn. Well, do we go make these? Yes, please. I can't wait. All right, folks. You listen to the ads and we'll be right back with more Sloppy Boys. Our bags, zaps, voodoo, Bloody Marys in hand. Damn, these look pro, buddy pro these are the best garnish drinks
Starting point is 00:48:26 we've ever had on the bar you think so oh look at that sips first i'm gonna take a little lip of my oh yeah yeah oh yeah to know the taste oh my god oh javison hmm that's stanky so i'm just i just licked my just the rim and you're right it tastes like the voodoo the chip dust but then it also
Starting point is 00:48:49 has the butteriness of dots pretzels I agree oh that's good now the Cajun seasoning that you used in the drink was Tony Cachere
Starting point is 00:48:59 Tony Cachere which is a beloved Cajun seasoning it's delicious but if you can't find that i think any cajun seasoning will do and there are levels there's there's levels of tony kashir
Starting point is 00:49:11 the just creole seasoning mostly salty then there's a bold one that is like more pepper and then like a really hot one that's even more pepper and are those really hot ones like you could put more because there's less salt, but then it's hotter. Now is Creole seasoning like a thing like each brand is going to have its own Creole seasoning? Yeah, but a lot of Cajun and Creole stuff tends to be hot red like cayenne peppers, smoked paprika or paprika, garlic. And then your herbs and stuff are like your basil and thyme i want to say uh oh it's a hottie yeah oh this is a zipper zip zap wow well i was here yesterday when jeff was doing the uh test kitchen i may have uh snuck a sip or two on the early rounds but um i said i
Starting point is 00:50:01 said oh don't you need some horseradish and jeff said, no, no, no. I'm not doing horseradish. And I do see horseradish in Creole stuff, Cajun stuff, because especially they're doing oysters down there. But I was really trying to remove the normal heat from Bloody Mary and try and rely on like the cayenne. I applaud that because I love horseradish, but in a Bloody Mary, it takes over. So this heat that i'm getting right now is cayenne primarily yes it's and the thing about cayenne is like it's not a sharp heat like uh like a like a habanero something it's like a slow grower it's like nashville hot chicken is is cayenne really yeah catches all our beloved, you know, Frank's Red Hot and Louisiana
Starting point is 00:50:46 Hot Sauce and Crystal and all those. Oh, I just looked it up. I brought that bomb hot sauce we had to my brother and sister-in-law's house. And my sister-in-law likes hot stuff. So she, I would just again, took like a little fork and put it to my tongue. I was like, ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 She was dipping her food in it. I couldn't believe it. That's too much. I can't believe that. But like, I looked it up and... Like, I have a chemical reaction to it. It tastes like a 9- like, ooh. Yeah. She was dipping her food in it. I couldn't believe it. That's too much. I can't believe that. But, like, I looked it up and... Like, I have a chemical reaction to it. It tastes like a 9-volt to me. Yeah, I know. What was I saying? Oh, yeah. I looked up, like, Tabasco is like, let's say, 1,000 Scoville units, probably less, like 400.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And this bomb stuff is like 160,000 Scoville units. What the fuck? So that's the difference there. Wait, say the numbers again uh tabasco is like 400 scoville units pretty low and then that bomb stuff is like 160 000 wow because to me is uh is deceptively hot i i put a lot on it and i love it but i think sometimes what jeff was saying about like the battery taste. Sometimes I think like stuff that's hot that like makes my mouth like is one thing. But like sometimes I eat hot stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It's not doesn't make my mouth hurt, but it's like a different flavor. It's like hot flavor. This okra. Delicious. Yeah. Jeff, talk about the garnishes you got here. Oh, yeah. It's ambitious.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Damn. Okay. We got a little pickled okra. You'll see. You get a pickle. You get a pickle. I love Okay. We got a little pickled okra. You'll see. You get a pickle. You get a pickle. I love it. Good one, Mike.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I'm going to do the same joke after this. You'll see them in a Bloody Mary. And generally, I'm like, oh, it's okra. Generally, whenever I see okra, I'm never tap dancing. I just took a big bite of my celery. The worst thing you can eat on. Yeah. Well, I'm the one who yells at you guys for eating. And then I give you a big bite of my celery the worst thing you can eat on well I'm the one who yells at you guys for eating
Starting point is 00:52:26 and then I give you a whole buffet of garnish Tim how do you feel about okra? okra? pickled okra I love it like I wasn't exposed to any okra until adulthood and when I went down south and they love it
Starting point is 00:52:41 they fry it they're doing everything with it but I think the pickled it's an odd thing because it's a squirmy sticky slimy a lot of seeds it's wormy yeah it's it's like a pickle that resists you in a way i like it pickled best i think when it's not pickled it's a little i've had like bland i've had frickles but like okra frickles so fried okra and those get like the outside casing was good but i didn't love the okra frickles, so fried okra. And those, like the outside casing was good, but I didn't love the okra part. Okra ain't no jokera.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Now, Jeff, continue. We got a little shrimp on there, a little cocktail shrimp. That's nice. Put a little shrimp on the bloody. I wish I had said that clear. I won't take two. I won't take two. And a lemon wedge and a. And a grape tomato.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Mm-hmm. Now, the lemon wedge, do you guys usually squeeze yours in there? I usually, with a garnish like this, I kind of just pick at them throughout the thing. But do you take it in and squeeze it in? I haven't squoze yet because this is such a zippy drink to begin with, but I'm going to squeeze and see what happens. I feel like I just don't want to spill on Jeff's couch. That's okay. I already spilled on my shirt.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Careful, Mike. You got all that white. I'm glad I'm not wearing my new white sweater. Yeah, you're wearing a white button-down, though. Yeah, but this thing's on its way out, and you know how I do how I travel. Yeah, okay. Mike does this thing where he will throw out clothes on the road. Throw out clothes? Yep. What was that? That was my phone. Okay. I was so shocked that Mike throws out clothes on the road. Throw out clothes? Yep. What was that? That was my phone.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I was so shocked that Mike throws out clothes on the road. What I'll do, you know, on like a travel day, it's like, I'm just going to be on a plane. I'm going to wear old socks and an old t-shirt that I don't want anymore. When I get to the hotel, gone. It's just a last wear. Last wear. I like to give my clothes a last run.
Starting point is 00:54:22 He'll gloat, you know, like I'm packing up my clothes. I can't fit my socks. These box. He'll gloat. You know, like I'm packing up my clothes. Oh, I can't fit my socks. These boxers back in. And he'll go, Jeffy. And he just waves his dirty socks in front of me and then throws them in the garbage. Gone. Now, I should say, I'm not being wasteful.
Starting point is 00:54:36 This is stuff that's like no good for anybody anymore. I like that. The last wear. I sometimes will be like, when I'm not sure, I'll find like a button-down shirt in my closet that I haven't worn in six years. And I'm like, you know what? It's a middle of a day. I'm working from home. No one is even going to see me.
Starting point is 00:54:52 But I think I'm going to put this shirt on and this pair of khakis, and I'll tuck this shirt into these khakis, and I'll just see if I like it. And usually I don't. Usually I toss it. I don't think I've seen you in khakis. You should wear khakis more. Or like a light pant.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I wear white jeans a lot. Who said khakis? Was that for? For the shiner. Shiner. Oh. You know what? I maxed out on the khakis in high school because I was in Catholic school and I had a dress code.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Also, my style icon when I was in high school was Kramer. So I did wear a lot of uh kind of some corduroys and chinos yeah yeah um this is a hot drink it's starting to make my my stomach feel like you had too much hot yeah what do you think i mean it's delicious i'm strong so i can deal with the heat but i'm also going to melt what's that i was hoping it would melt can deal with the heat but i was hoping it would melt what's that i was hoping it would melt um ease into it you know how how much uh tony cashier did you put in there um quarter teaspoon oh that's not too much because i am uh i was just wondering if this is going to be one of these salt sensitive nights for me where i'm up all night going yeah i take it back half teaspoon that's a lot too much that's what's getting me right now
Starting point is 00:56:08 is this is this is the sodium i'm enjoying the heat and i and i'm uh what was it and the chat is chat this salt is challenging to me but i'm enjoying it but like the thing about salt with me is like i love it i love I love the taste. And I wish. That was the only seasoning where I put it on my tongue and said, yum, I like this. Right out of the can. Yeah. I was trying out all the cayenne, all the paprika, just to see like, what am I dealing with? What am I adding or subtracting here? And that's one where I felt like I was just eating like pork rub.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Just beautiful, sweet, salty pork rub. rub yeah it's a real good salt i gotta say i'm a little turned off by the snaps i was gonna save that for later yeah it's got like a stinky stag to it it's sweet it's buttery and it's simply like this zippy creole uh drink you came up with for us absolutely didn't need like a... I guess it's the way in. I also think it's maybe gotten like a little stale or like moist or something. It's also like on the rim, it's like getting gloppy. It's like melting.
Starting point is 00:57:18 It is getting gloppy. It crusted on there. It looks like there's like a crust on my glass. But those mix of spices you got in there,ff are good yeah that's good um would you make any tweaks for round two i'm not gonna have another one but i am gonna tweak what i have left i'm i'm still working um hmm i don't know i don't think i would do it i would probably just not do the zaps yeah that would be my i want i want to have like a vodka and zaps or something just to try to see if I could taste the zaps in my drink. Well, there's plenty of just dust if you just want to go hammer.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, let's do it. I might just do a vodka on the rocks with enough dust to taste it. Or is there like a shot version I could do? Dust to taste. Oh. Yeah, a shot with just a little pinch. Or like a shot of vodka and a shot of dust. Oh, I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Or should I just put more dust in the rest of my drink and see if it dusted it up? Well, I think you got a really strong, like a very specific drink, a very taste distinct. So if you want to try just, I think it would screw it up if your results would be screwed up. Too many variables. I need a control group. Well, do we head back into the test kitchen let's do it while they listen to the ads i love that fools you don't have to listen to the ads if you just would go on patreon become a slop head i know but they don't get it they just don't
Starting point is 00:58:34 get ads are good because then you know what products to buy yeah that's true that's true all right folks sit tight there'll be more sloppy boys after this. And we're back with round two of Zapp's Voodoo Bloody Marys. Indeed. Good stuff. What'd y'all do? I just, I'm still working on my first one, but I put a, squeezed my lemon in there. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I made myself just a vodka rocks. The smallest tweak of the group. We'll start with you. Squeezed a lemon. Bold. Good vodcast. I ate my okra um i poured myself a vodka rocks and then i put a whole bunch of uh zaps dust oh i'm not gonna see if it comes through
Starting point is 00:59:34 it's basically like adding panko to a drink just bready it really is like breadcrumbs it's like is it thick yeah look how I collected at the bottom. Ew. So it wasn't fully soluble. Okay, I'm going to... At first, it would just taste like Tito's, and now I'm having that buttery, bready aftertaste. Look, though, you've had zaps. Have you reached to the bottom of the bag?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah. It feels like fresh dust is maybe better than, like, mostly expired dust. Because that's how it gets chunkier. Collected over time by a freak. I'll say that. You're talking about old pretzel. That's like old dough, you know? We threw out the dough.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah, the dough's gone. Yeah, but it's in the dust, you know? Yeah, the dough is in the dust. Ah, the dough is in the dust. You can't take the dough. You can take the dust out of the dough, but you can't take the dough out of the dust. That's right. I, this is probably the appropriate time to mention this.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I don't really love the pretzel, the Zapp's pretzels. Now, how do you feel about Dot's pretzel sticks? I'm sure I've had them. I don't know. Are they good? I'm very into them. Really? Dot's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I think the Zapp's pretzels i like zaps as well yeah i think i think zaps just like absolutely crushes them maybe like i haven't well i just think that you know they they're standing on the shoulders of dots dots invented that stick and then zaps put the their dust on there okay sure but like but dot ran so zap could run i think i haven't had honey mustard no we did we did have honey mustard. Yeah. We had it here. We had it together. So I think I'm just missing out on my Dots dust.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I haven't found my dust. Everyone has their own dust that's their thing. Dutton dust. Dutton dust. You need to come up with Dutton dust. They also have a Southwest, do they not? Jeff, get the Dots cheese curls with the pretzel dust on them. It's a lot of taste. It's a lot of taste. There's a lot of pretzels and flavors and chips and things out there aren't there yeah i was gonna say i don't what i don't
Starting point is 01:01:32 really care for is the pretzel dust tim but then again the voodoo the zaps voodoo pretzel sticks taste different than the zaps voodoo chips so maybe there's something that gets lost or added depending on what it's on. Yeah. So when a cheese curl, maybe it's the best. I wonder if anyone's ever did a crushed up cheese ball rim or a crushed up potato chip rim. Potato chip. Oh, and they offer a drink. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:01 For sure. Crushed up potato chips get used in cooking a lot. And I feel like the Cheetos you don't see, that would be good. I've seen like the breaded chicken, but breaded with chips. Hot Cheetos? I've made, I've done Doritos. I've like deep fried chicken with Dorito. Yeah. And that was really good.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Deep fried with Dorito? Like the Dorito. I smashed up Cool Ranch Doritos and made chicken tenders and deep fried. It was delicious. Chicken Dorito, I called it. That's good. I made this when I was
Starting point is 01:02:30 like a teenager at home. But Cheeto, sometimes on like a hot dog, a fully loaded hot dog at Dodger Stadium or something, you'll get like the Cheeto, Flamin' Hot Cheeto. Just put it on there?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Like it's on there, yeah. Or like a Lotte, like street corn that's been rolled in Flamin' Hot Cheeto. Just put it on there? Like it's on there, yeah. Or like a Lotte street corn that's been rolled in Flamin' Hot Cheeto. I love every Cheeto except for one. I think I know the one. You know the one? No, what is it? That Cheeto. Man.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That Cheeto man. That Cheeto man. That we all had to deal with all those times. Right. If we don't get our act together, we'll be dealing with him again. Cheeto man. That we all had to deal with all those times. Right. If we don't get our act together, we'll be dealing with him again. Cheeto man number two. But we love, the thing about us is we love Joe Biden. Mm-hmm.
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Starting point is 01:03:39 My final thought is it's great, but the Zapps voodoo is not working out for me. Time to go. It's an Oregon for me. No Zaps. Jeff, now I think you have the opportunity to name it what you want.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Because that is all in there in the cup. That's Jeff Dunn. How about Chef Jeff's Creole Bloody Mary? That's good. Chef Jeff's Creole. Then you can do Chef Jeff whatever. Yeah Bloody Mary? That's good. Chef Jeff's Creole. And you can do Chef Jeff whenever. Yeah, a whole line of stuff. Chef Jeff this, Chef Jeff that.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Yeah. Things are going to be different from now on. There's a line of like alcoholic drinks, mixed drinks called Chef Jeff. No food. Should it be bartender Jeff? No, no. No, it doesn't rhyme. Well, you know, everybody says like, yes, chef and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I like to hear it as like, yes, Jeff. Yes, Jeff. Yes, Jeff. But chef Jeff is. Chef Jeff. Yes, chef Jeff. Yes, chef Jeff. Creole concoction.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I say this Creole martini. Martini. Bloody Mary is delicious. and i would order that again but yeah i gotta ding you for you the drink being just inherently flawed the the the tissue the the the the thing the main thing i'm supposed to be paying attention to is the dust yeah it is the not only is the worst part of the drink but it's almost like not part of it it's like there's just weird breadcrumbs i was avoiding there's a name for this there's like a screenwriting name for this we're like the inspiration of idea of an idea that like sets you out on this thing and then when the idea
Starting point is 01:05:14 is done you can kind of like jettison the original idea oh dissolvable premise or something that might be it um powder i had one time when i joined the WGA I had like a night a mentor night where I went out to dinner uh some like five new writers went out to dinner with uh Mike Schur I did I did that too but with a different guy um yeah they have this like mentor program but so I was eating dinner I did that too but they paired us up with Mr. T he pities the fool right I was like what do you wait hold on i was like you put you put you pity fool he has such empathy yeah the wga did this i don't know why
Starting point is 01:05:50 i remember i had that he put me through the table by the end of the meal fucking pile drive me through the table mr t no you're at dinner with sure uh yeah but also i had a dream that mr t was in recently remember i saw him at a party and it was like modern day mr t anyway i'm at dinner with mike sure and we're asking him kind of like we're rookie writers asking questions and stuff and then kind of one idea we got to he said a lot of times uh you know he created uh parks and rec and i guess a billion other shows good place and stuff like that oh yes thank you that's a big boy. He said that lots of times, you know, you, you gotta kill your darlings as they say. And a lot of times he'd have a script that has like, Oh,
Starting point is 01:06:32 like his favorite scene funniest scene was the, the scene that was the impetus to write the episode. A lot of times we get cut. And then he said, he even got to the point where like, that's how he knew an episode was done. Like when his like favorite scene was gone or like like the scene that got that was like, we should do an episode about this. We do this. And it's like once that scene has been cut down and then you see the timer. Twenty two thirty. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:59 There's another term I've heard called a bay leaf. Have you heard of this? I know the cooking term you put on a bay leaf. Sounds like something Chef Jeff would say. It does. The Creole Chef Jeff. This is a note that I've heard that in writer's terms, if you get a bad note from an executive or they're just like, explain why Doc goes back in time or something like that, they'll put in a stupid line just for, to get all the dummies on board,
Starting point is 01:07:27 uh, with the intention of taking it out. Uh, not unlike a Bay leaf. It's a sauce. It's a line in there that is for the, uh, for the process,
Starting point is 01:07:37 not intended for, uh, final. So Bailey's are usually taken out of a sauce. Yes. Not intended for final presentation. Well, I love that. Cause I do hate like on the note.
Starting point is 01:07:47 That's the thing that makes me not like movies most of the time is like when the characters are talking too much about what they want to accomplish. And I'm like, well, there's that thing you're going to do later. Yeah. And one last one. A purple dog. Have you heard of this? No. I thought this was a Bob and David thing.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I've heard shaggy dog story, but I don't know. Yeah, this is a little different. This dog is so streamlined. He's not shaggy dog story, but I don't know. Yeah, this is a little different. This is this is this dog is so streamlined. He's not shaggy at all. He's purple. This is when you intentionally as a writer put something incorrect or weird in your script so that the notes kind of go to it. Oh, interesting. Instead of the stuff that you want to keep.
Starting point is 01:08:23 You put in an obviously correctable thing so that the exec can go wait a minute on page 12 the dog is purple and you go oh i'm sorry yes the dog shouldn't be purple so that's like i meant to just say dog instead i said purple dog i've heard this with uh with with uh network like give them something to say give them give them a word if you want to use a swear word put a worse swear word in so they cut that one and let you have the like if you want to say peenie say cock okay if you want to say peenie if you want to say peenie say cock if you want a pc if you want to say pe beanie you know you gotta first say cop good point very good point one of you guys said something the other day it was like uh another screenwriting thing like oh
Starting point is 01:09:12 that's a bit a bit i feel what it was oh yeah and then you asked me if it was like a mcguffin and i said you kind of red herring no it was it was like a weird word i've never heard before it was like ding-a-mang-goo ring-dong-da-ring-dong no it was uh was it a bill dungserman yep that's right yes ring-dong-da-ring-do that's our show follow us on social media at the sloppy boys we release these recipes ahead of time and if you can't get enough boys we mentioned it it's patreon.com slash the sloppy boys that's where you unlock double the pleasure every week. The sloppy boys blow it. And not to mention questions for Lennon.
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