The Sloppy Boys - 185. Orange Wine with Lamar Woods

Episode Date: May 3, 2024

The guys are joined by writer-actor-rapper Lamar Woods as they sip a wine that's neither made from oranges, nor orange in color (necessarily!)Orange wine is available at wine stores, NOT grocery stores (typically!)Lamar's album Highly Sensitive Person is now streaming everywhere. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh, New York City! The Sloppy Boys are coming to the Chelsea Music Hall on May 9th for the New York premiere of our movie, Blood, Sweat, and Beers. We're going to be there. The director, Robert O'Gean, is going to be there. We're going to intro the movie. We're going to be chilling at the bar. We're going to be having drinks.

We're going to do a Q&A after the movie. We're going to be chilling. We're going to be having fun. You're going to laugh at the movie, movie and it's gonna be a great night also hey here's the other thing stick around in the city because the very next night may 10th in brooklyn at littlefield we're playing a show live rock and roll show when we're gonna play a long one we decided we're going to do two big fat sets of music holy shit new york it's all happening may 9th and 10th and then also the next couple of days we'll be in rhode island in westerly at the united theater and then we're going to be we're

going to be playing a live show there we're going to be we're going to be screening a movie there and then after that we're going to be in pittsburgh and we're gonna be in philadelphia so you gotta go look at our socials and you gotta get the tickets to all the stuff peace hey folks welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford. Hello. And Tim Kalpakis.

What is up? And joining us today, a very special guest, actor, writer, rapper, Lamar Woods is here. Hey Lamar. Hey, that was fast. That was way too fast. I'm not ready. Hey, Lamar. Hey, that was fast.

That was way too fast. I was not ready. Can we also throw, I think you can throw director in there too, Lamar? Yeah, next year, in a year, you could do that. But it's coming. All right, I will say. We'll have you back. We'll have you back. Yeah, have me back, yeah.

I got fired from that. But I'll still be back. If somebody adds a hyphen to their credit, they get to come back on the show. Yeah. If they have plans for more hyphens. I got big hyphens coming. Big hyphen project coming up. Thanks for having me on the show, y'all.

I'm so excited to get drunk and drink. Get drunk and drink. Oh, shit. That is not what this show is about. That is not what this show is about. That is not what this show is about. This show is a very intelligent, clear, concise summation of each cocktail. This is education. Okay.

If we get to drinking, that's if we have time. I was at the Buddhist, I go to this Buddhist temple every week, and I was there yesterday, and the monk was in there, and they wanted us to do this exercise. We had to write down something you're like resisting and uh i wrote um i'm resisting being sober all their shit was like oh stretching or working out i was like there's a real serious problem like went right for it I was like, this is a real serious problem.

Like went right for it. I was like, all right, all right, Buddha. Is that the temple near, well, his old house? The one off of Franklin? Oh, no, no. Oh, you know what's funny, though? I think, so I don't go to that one, but I go to the one in Echo Park. It's like this kind of chill one called Angel City Zen Center. Oh, good.

But the guest, the person who was doing the lecture i think might have been from that one but i don't know for sure but uh because i was they i was like i think i bet they from that one that's by mitch's house i didn't base it out on nothing but i just the vibe i was like they look like they live by mitch they're like i'm coming from near mitch's house well yeah mitch's new house oh, there's a third one? I've been to the one near Mitch's old house. There was like one evening

it was like, come in. It was like right when it started. It was like, come in one of these nights and see what we do here. So I went in like I didn't go much more because there was you to pay some stuff and I didn't realize that. But it was a cool just like you couldn't hear anything outside it was really neat yeah that's why i don't i don't go to that one the one i like the one i go to because you don't have to pay like that like i it's so strange to me to like pay like like it's like a gym membership almost

yeah i guess it's a little weird don't say gym membership i'm i'm flaking on my gym membership man just oozing money me too you got huge and then you bailed on it i know i gotta announce jacked by june too or i will yeah it's been it's been almost a year all right i'm announcing it i'm announcing jacked by june too so this means all of may you have all made to get jacked by June I have all May All of May Jeff I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you all something about These noodles I've been eating recently

Oh god here we go Kojak Why are you supposed to be keto? No this is Tim this is within the keto guidelines It's called Kojak Konjak noodles Konjak noodles This is Tim. This is within the keto guidelines. Okay. It's called the Kojak. Konjac noodles.

Okay. Konjac noodles. They are. Hold on. I'm just looking them up to make sure I'm getting the right thing. Yes. Oh, these are so good. They're konjac noodles. They're like made of konjac root or something, but they can shape them in like noodles or rice or whatever

and there's kind of no taste to them you just sauce them up but like i'm mixing you know i'm mixing my chicken and stuff in there and beef and just making stir fries on the stuff that has really no carbs has like 12 carbs per uh damn mike mike were you are you the one telling me about like we have a friend who boils up rice until it's just gruel. Yes. And you were really excited about the sound of that? I tried it. I liked it. Really? Like the stuff on The Matrix.

I've been going, exactly. But I can make it taste like corn flakes. It might be good, but would rice be better? It's basically a, like, it has no taste. You put syrup or something on it if you want, but it's just like to give you some nutrients in the morning and out the door. You know, that sounds awful. Well, Jeff, I'm not sitting here trying to have the best meals of my life. I'm unlike Lamar here.

We'll get to talking about that in just a second. I'm out there. We call a monster meals. Functionally, I'm functional. I got to get jacked by June my own way. All right. Why June? Why do you need to get jacked by June my own way. All right. Why June? Why do you need to be jacked by June? Because the alliteration is so powerful.

And that's like beach season too. You could be audacious by August. We're already audacious. Probably fat by July. Speaking of Mike being skinny look at look at what shirt i'm wearing it was a hand-me-up from hanford oh a hand-me-up that's the floral the floral blouse too big on hanford and timmy reaps the rewards there you go oh we should say our yeah our last our last couple episodes where mike was in town and he was in town for partially the lodge room show that Lamar played

with us at. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. That's right. That was a good time, y'all. That was so great. That was one of the best nights of my life.

It made me, really? Me too. It made me, it was the worst of my life. I lead such a nice life that that was one of the worst times

I've ever had. Oh, man. It was great. Right when that show ended, I was like, we got to tour this thing around. This is a fun group. You guys, Lamar, us, and Don't Stop. Yeah, I think that would be really fun. Yeah, I was going to tell y'all.

I was thinking about that. I'm available. I want to travel. I got to get out of here. I got to get out of LA. Where are you from, Lamar? I'm from Atlanta I want to travel. I got to get out of here. I got to get out of LA. Where are you from Lamar? I'm from Atlanta, from Georgia. So yeah, I've been out here for like a long time though.

I feel like I'm from here at this point, but I've been, but I've been out here for like 13 years though. That's funny to, to be from Atlanta and to move to Hollywood for Hollywood stuff. And then in the, over the last 13 years, like Atlanta, like turned into Hollywood kind of, I know it's like, they tricked me.

Well, I left because I was like, they were like, they waited until I left to start doing all this shit. So yeah, the coast is clear. Let's bring out, bring out the studio.

It's like Tyler Perry and a bunch of, a bunch of his goons. And they're like, all right, you're ready. Lamar's gone. We're going to, we're going to take over this town.

But yeah, no, I, yeah, it wasn't like that when I was living, when I was in college, even the college I went to, I mean, even though I didn't really was, no, I was going to do film stuff. I was actually doing music out there. So I left, I left doing music for this similar reason, but it was, uh, I just, it was just so hip hop heavy and i was getting into like more like folk music and stuff at the time so i was like oh i bet california would like this and then i came out here but uh cool but uh but now it's like everyone's moving to atlanta to do movies

and stuff it's just crazy did i feel like i was not there for this but i feel like the way that we met you was like some sort of backyard screening of shorts or something and dave ferguson met you or something oh man oh man you're taking me back to take me back all the way all the way all the way yeah yeah i was a full baby at that backyard screening but uh but remember this was like our old sketch group, the birthday boys. I remember Dave saying like, Hey, I met a funny guy named Lamar. Yeah, no, that was, uh, we, I would, cause we used to do the little, we used to do like sketches, like the video sketches and stuff. And we did, uh, our site was called Northside comedy.

And it was obviously we big fans of y'all. And we would, we would do like, we screened it at that screen. I think what's the name was there. What's that guy's name? That, um, that guy that was on, uh,

the show about tech, uh, on Silicon Valley, Thomas Middleditch. No, no, no. I have the other one.

TJ Miller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was there. I remember that night. It was like in the backyard. Right. And there's like a, yes, yes, yes. Wow. Oh, Jesus Christ. Was this, yeah, yeah, he was there. I remember that night. It was like in the backyard, right? And there's like a, yes, yes, yes.

Wow. Oh, Jesus Christ. Was this, no, not Successful Alcoholics. Was that the short that played? Or is that a different one? Do you remember that short? Yeah. That was Cruel, right?

I think this was before that. I think this is at the dawn of time. Wow. Okay. This is what the audience wants to hear me fumble through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember. Yeah, remember that.

They like that. TJ Miller was there. He was there. Or he may not have been. I don't remember. Ferguson came up to me. He was like, hey, funny stuff, man. And I was like, who the hell are you, man?

I don't need your approval. And then he was like, I didn't you man I'll get your approval and then um and then he was uh he was like he I didn't know what UCB was at the time and he he told me about UCB and then that's how that's how I found out what UCB was through him actually that's funny though Dave acting like he's Lorne Michaels or something like funny stuff you get the thumbs up from me are you gonna make something of yourself? What did you say your name was again? He was a guy like you, right?

No, he was great. He changed my life, actually. Damn. All right, Dave. All right, Dave. Way to go, Dave. He changed your life, and then the best night of your life was at the lodge room just a couple weeks ago. I feel like we're involved with all of it.

Yeah, who said y'all? He changed my life at the lodge room. He pissed me off. I was having such a good time. You know how I met Dave Ferguson? I was, he auditioned for an Ithaca College TV show that

I was the head writer of, and I remember being like, watching the monitors and being like, this Ferguson, he reminds me of Dana Carvey. I gave him the thumbs up. The Johnny Carson wave. So you changed his life. See, you sparked the brain that will change the world. I'm still waiting on that first thumbs up, you know?

You'll get it, Jeff. When's Ferguson going to change your life, Jeff? Maybe the end of this episode. Maybe. Well, you guys want to get into some booze news? Yes. Booze news. Hit it.

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Was that a chocolate bar? That was what we were doing. What was the recent drink we were doing? A chocolate shavings into something. Ah, yes. Mudslide. Mudslide. And I got, remember the, you know,

those big Tony chocolate bars that you see in like, uh, wrapped in paper. I had never gotten one before and I just saw it. I was like, Ooh, I'll use this. And I had that voice was me saying, have you ever seen tony's rapping and i was holding up the big wrapping thing ah yes or the wraps are not the wrapping the wrapping paper and you didn't know it would go on to become a classic booze news theme no i didn't i felt like who did that one tim bolarium he gave you a thumbs up bolarium gets the thumbs up with me

you'll get it i wonder if bolarium was pushing as far as he could on that one note to have tim go or to have jeff go tony chocolony um okay so today's booze news i i wanted to talk about something wine-related because it's a wine show. And I'm pretty whiny myself. Mike. Mike, stop. I'm a wine-o, I should say. I'm drunk.

That's what you're supposed to say for the show. But here's the news. I'm dropping this in of wine for you at the bottom of the ocean for a year wow oh shit so let you watch it via smartphone yeah so yeah so basically it's uh the company is kayu matsuri. And I guess that the vibrations of the ocean give wine a distinct flavor. Oh, yeah. Oh, Mike, you know about this? Yeah.

They do? They do. With any food, really. You put any food or drink under the ocean for a while. Oh, this is good. Keep going, because I have personal experience with this, Tim. Putting food under the ocean? No, the vibrations in the water.

But go on, go on oh yeah of course well well uh this uh basically just you give this japanese company 700 dollars that's pretty good they have a cage that you can fill with up to 12 bottles they sink it down to the bottom of the ocean you wait a year you get get it back and i guess in addition to uh the the taste um it's like a cool thing that like then your bottle is covered in barnacles yeah you got a barnacle that's good and it looks funny and then but then here's the thing that made me laugh was that uh yeah there's a live cam on your bottles yeah 24 7 and you can watch from a phone. You can check in on your bottles. Those bottles are in a fish tank downtown. I guarantee you half that $700 is just to like set up the webcams and do all

the bandwidth shit. Like it's going to be a lot cheaper to have a nanny cam. Cause you can't own property at the bottom of the ocean. The waterline is the thing, right? So, so anyone could probably just go oh really unless you had a cam on it well tim you want to hear my story yes um friend of mine girlfriend let's say

wow everything's getting hot and heavy at this point or what hold on and let me get all right all right all right got it had a gift from her parents for an ultrasonic bath you heard of this sort of thing it's sort of like sort of like a um sensory deprivation chamber but it's like basically like a queen size bed tub you walk in through like a little little submarine hatch door and you lay in about a foot and a half two feet of water and they have speakers in the water that are throwing sound waves at you. So it's like spa music, but you hear like the different waves. Sometimes they line up, sometimes they don't. So it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

And it's supposed to be super beneficial. And I was like, yeah, yeah, whatever. Let's do this. It sounds relaxing, even if I don't buy into all of the chakra stuff necessarily. Or maybe I do buy into the chakra stuff, but I don't think that this place in Frogtown is maybe like the best execution of it. So I do this thing. I sip my tea afterwards. We leave. It was a great time. I drink that night a little too much. Hungover the next morning. So like not a particularly healthy weekend.

so like not a particularly healthy weekend but come nightfall i'm feeling razor sharp razor sharp and the next day on it super sharp all day next day super sharp all day five days in a row of just being like i could fly an f-16 right now i couldn't believe it not For these United States, you can't. I remember being in the bath and they said like certain frequencies might stress you out. That's okay. Work through it. Other ones might make you feel a little different. Try to make note of what makes you feel weird.

And there were three times that I felt weird. One, I felt like my skin, I guess, was like kind of like falling apart at the seams like jelly like you know you soak a gel a jelly or a gummy bear in water and it just gets like gelatinous on the edges remember we soaked him in vodka once i felt gelatinous for for a little bit but i was like just just enjoy it just enjoy it moment came. Enjoy being gelatinous. I felt extremely alert. Lights came on and I was just like, I went from being chill and like, Hey, I'm just kind of feeling this to like, if the lights went on, no, no, just staring at the ceiling, being like something about this is making me feel activated. And then the last one I remember was like feeling really heavy in one of them and like

drawing something like drawing like the back of my hair in the back of my skin. And I felt like I was laying on a solid object rather than water. So they're just like little things where, you know, while you were in there, while you were in there for like a solid hour and you just kind of like feel these different sensations, but the net result, I was Superman for like five days. Wow. Damn. That's pretty dope. What kind of music did they tell you? What kind of music is playing? It was it was truly like you know sound waves like not even music with the beat it was just like so and so it didn't sound like they even gave it a pleasant ambient style it's more just like these are vibrations true truly it's just like they have frequencies that they're like

trying out on you. Yeah. Damn. Okay. When you said you had a story about vibrations of the water, I thought you were going to talk about when you puked on a surfboard. Yeah, that was the other time. I thought you were going to talk about being in a jacuzzi and getting aroused with the jets. Getting aroused with the jets, fucking the jets, all that type of stuff.

Man. You guys ever try and fuck a jet? No, not when it's on. No, good luck. Good luck. Fuck it.

Oh, it's on. I've never fucked a hot tub jet, but, um, I, I basically did everything, but

we didn't want to take that. Some hand stuff. I will say, I won't say what I've done with a hot tub, but I have performed aftercare with a hot tub. So it was some intense BDSM. It may have gotten a little intense. Certain safe words were used, shouted by some of us.

Is that it for Booze News? Are we going to descend further into filth? No, we'll stick to proper talk. Thank you to Kanger for that news story and wrap it up. Oh, Kanger, nice. Ooh, the classic. Is that a... Mario 2.

Mario 2. Mario 2. Well, well, well, I guess it looks like it's time for me to introduce the drink of the day. We have a guest and we have a guest known for... for what you like wine, don't you, Lamar? Yeah, you are. Now, you were kind of let me know if I'm getting any of this stuff wrong, because you're the you're the expert as far as I can tell.

I'll tell you that. I just assumed with the Grand Cru. Oh, yeah. That's probably why they hired you, because you know what? Anyway, let's get on with this. Well, I do want to hear about the Grand Cru stuff, but Mike, you continue. I know. I think let me do the drink.

We'll make the drinks. Then we'll come back and we'll sit with Lamar and he can hash it out. Okay. You can tell us what we got wrong. Because I want to hear about Grand Cru. I want to hear about the album. I want to hear about it all. Okay.

Ready? We're talking today about orange wine. Orange wine. You've had? Yes. No. No. Me neither.

Lamar, you've had? Absolutely. Yeah. You're a wine guy. Yeah. I love wine. I don't know if it's clear. I had never, I mean, I've heard of it. it i never had it maybe i had a sip from somebody i got all this info from info info

from delish.com orange wine is not made with oranges is this news to anybody it was to me and it certainly seemed to be the headline of every single article i looked at wow really you guys just thought of course it's it's called orange but it's a grape wine better than me i call all wine grape wine anyway you know the next thing i heard though mike because at first i figured that like oh it's probably made from oranges and then i hear the the big thing you hear is no no no no skin contact yeah yeah and of course i thought human skin my brain doesn't go right to grape skin no i did think that too like i thought it had something to do with how they touch it or something yeah yeah right they smush it with no boots on so no it's basically what you do is you think about

white wine grapes made in a red wine process that's all orange wine is so you take a grape they smush it and then they don't remove it from the skins the skin is fermenting in there with it which gives it like a darker like the longer you keep it in there, the longer you get or the darker the orange will be. And actually, this is interesting, too. I didn't know

about this. Rosé is the opposite. It's if you take the skins take the skins out of the red wine process. Does that make sense? I did not know. Me neither. That's cool, although it's a little disappointing because now I feel like we've played all our cards.

Yeah, right, right. There's got to be new combinations. There's no other ways to make wine. Somebody's got to figure something out. Okay, well, hey, you want to feel old? This drink dates back to 6,000 BCE. somebody's gonna figure something out yeah um okay well hey you want to feel old this drink dates back to 6000 bce mike that makes me feel young yeah i'm much younger than that the orange

wine goes way back i did think it was like a new like white girl thing like it felt like it just happened it's definitely having a moment right now here's somebody on tiktok said this now i don't know how true this is because they don't write for Delish.com, but they said that in the early 2000s, like 2001, there were, oh, this comes from Georgia, by the way, Georgia, the country, not just. Sorry, Lamar. Not yet. Nice try.

Nice try, dude. People call it the birthplace of wines. They started making wine as soon as i left every time i leave they do some shit but yeah they do all your favorite stuff they make movies that does happen to me every time i go to a white bar they go this is from georgia and that conversation had the same conversation oh georgia and they're like no georgia it happens every time and there's never going to be a moment where it's actually my hometown they have one winery out there and they have a they have like

a peach they actually do have a wine that's made from peaches like peach wine that's not made from made from the peaches yeah yeah interesting it's not good though much the way one would think that orange wine is made from oranges anyway uh so and to think that you wouldn't be wrong or foolish. If you're listening at home, say, oh, I thought you're OK if orange wine you thought was oranges. But oh, somebody online on TikTok was saying that when Georgia, they they export a lot of their orange wine to Russia. And then the early 2000s sanctions, Russia was sanctioned. So they sent a lot of it to like Europe and the U S now. So that's how we got it.

I don't know if that's true. I feel like it just got popular. Yeah. But who knows? I'm just looking through my little thing here. Keep it slightly chilled, kind of treat it like a white wine a little bit, but the,

the darker it gets. Like 55 degrees it says. How much is a... I left mine in the sun. Mine's 56 degrees. They said if it's a darker color, you treat it more like a red wine. Keep it room temp. This is a very diverse wine. It can pair with

anything kind of. Also, this article said it's good for... It's good before a meal or between a meal and dessert so anytime and it said it's good for coming off a red but you don't want to get back into a fruity or acidic thing so if you want to transition nicely from a white into a red as the night goes on uh what that's all i can tell you really a lot of people confuse it for natural wine which isn't uh the case oh right because it got popular around the same time like

all of these seem feel very like i hadn't heard of them until three years ago skin contact natural wine orange wine yeah and then suddenly for me they all they all go together as wines that i i'm allowed to drink cold. And that's what I love, is to sit outside and have a chilled red or something. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing. Oh, if you have, I don't have many wine glasses, so I've just kind of like a white wine glass.

It's this thing I read suggested, have a big open bowl red wine glass. Chill it like white, serve it like red. Wow. Good job, dude, serve it like red. Wow. Good job, dude. That's not bad. Not bad. Plus, we get some editing, tighten up the ums and ahs.

I think that's going to be a nice little report. The ums and ahs from us. No, the ums and ahs from me. Yeah, you guys keep it down. Salivating. Yeah, that was real interesting stuff. So, Mike, am I allowed to ask Lamar about grand crew or do you have rules about when let's do that now

okay let's do that well i mean i also i also want i'm excited to drink we can yeah here i want i want to hear with with wine in hand yeah with wine in hand all right so folks we're gonna go pour these wines and we'll be right back with more Sloppy Boys after this. Bring your wine back, too, so we can read the labels. It's smart. And we're back. Orange wine in hand. Let's see them.

How does your wine measure up? All different types. I'm the wine guy, but I have just a regular-ass cup. You're drinking out of a pint glass. I said open bowl. Red wine. Oh, yeah, you got that open bowl. That is definitely an open bowl.

This actually, no, this is pretty, the camera's deceiving. This is pretty thin. It's a closed bowl. It's an over bowl this actually no this is pretty the camera's deceiving this is pretty thin it's a closed bowl it's a closed order a bunch of wine glasses but i over the course of like two months i've broke all of them like just like just either somehow like falling down or like i knocked them over on whatever they just were so easy to break so now i'm back to my pint my beer glasses i i'm i have some glasses that are like monogrammed like martini glasses and old-fashioned glasses and when they break i'm so sad yeah yeah it's the it's the worst thing we when we did the birthday boys we for a one of the c i think season one gifts we had birthday boys pint glasses made for for oh i have mine i know i barely use mine because i'm like oh

i don't want to take this thing out it belongs in a museum oh one of my only goods pint glasses and it's like i'm afraid to drink out of it all right are we doing like sniffs of this how do what's the best way about that you know i don't know i can't see what flavors you smell you just jam your nose down there and suck in yeah you can open your mouth a little bit while you're sniffing it. Ooh. Ah, shit, I got something in my nose. Well, I would say that mine is, we'll get into what everybody went with,

but I would say that I'm smelling, it smells like white wine, right? It distinctly smells like a white wine. I'm not getting the orange into my nose. All right, I'm sipping. Okay, sips. Yeah, mine's really good. It has like a, not too strong. It's like dry.

It's kind of dry. I like dry. Tasting some grapefruit up in there This tastes a lot like Chardonnay maybe I don't know wines very well Yeah it's like Most orange when I first got into orange wine A lot of it was funky

The fun of it was That it was like stank almost like yeah yeah stinky ass wine but this actually seems kind of my whatever we have right here is like kind of like a mild like smooth orange wine which is good because i stopped drinking orange wine for that reason because it was just too much and then too much so if i there's too much stank on it then i now that i drank this, now that I'm drinking this, I'm like, this is the kind of orange wine I would drink if I did. Cause I kind of stopped drinking orange wine after a while.

But so what is that? Where's, did you buy there? Did Jeff buy that? I got him some bottles at that place. Lou, you know, on Heather's. That's where I went. I love Lou. Yeah.

They were very helpful. I just went in and said like, Hey, can you point me to a couple of bottles of just like beginner orange wine? Like I want, I want like a good cross section went in and said, like, hey, can you point me to a couple bottles of just, like, beginner orange wine? Like, I want, like, a good cross-section of, like, intro to orange wine, you know? Yeah, and what did Lou point you toward? Kohlfuck. Okay. You see this?

Yeah, that's what I'm drinking. It's from Austria. I got Lamar one of those, and then another one of... Fascinating. lamar one of those and then another another one of uh fascinating hey my mine is called uh naken n-a-k-e-n yeah and it also is from austria made with organic grapes from austria is the idea like that we don't do a lot of like california france for orange wines i do hear austria a lot even when i order it at the bar austria is what comes up a lot that's what i always think of austrian or german especially with those like when i order one at a bar i also like the the kind of pungent one so i'll say to you like do you have a stanky

orange wine and then a lot i feel like a lot of times they say oh it's like german or austrian what makes it a uh what make what like stanky and like because i don't know how to decide i don't uh know wines very well or how to describe when you say stanky is that closer to a red wine um and you know like what like with natural wines or all the popular wines in the last few years they kind of taste like kombucha a little bit like okay like you can almost taste the alcohol more um i think you're just like tasting rot well i do like that and that's mainly what i've got and like if i look if you go to a place like covel you get to try a couple you know like and so you can go one way or the other but

i also went to lou today and i i posed that same I was like, I'm looking for a down the middle, straightforward, iconic orange wine. Cause I'm going on a podcast and he showed me some like beginner ones. He showed me that one. And then I was about to buy a different one. And then he said, well, you know, orange wine, you know, it's really popular now, but originally it's from Georgia. Would you like a Georgian brand? That's been doing it forever and so that's i got this one papari valley and he's like this like long before orange wine was cool this is one that they've been making forever yeah wow and that's a cool label is that a horse on it is it stanky um yeah it has a horse on it and no it's not stanky it's it's uh i would say chardonnayay kind of like what Mike was saying. I'm getting Chardonnay and then

something in the aftertaste is like, I don't know, almost like olive oil to me or something. My lighting isn't, you know, I tried this new light you can see here. It's one of those Amazon lights. We were talking last time, Jeff was like you could either get DigiLight

or Moto. They're all the same shit. Yeah, Right. The sunset light. This is one. Yeah. Sunset light has a little, uh, remote with it. But anytime I turn on or if I turn the volume up on my TV, it turns red and, uh, it just turns off if I turn the TV off sometimes.

So it's not very good, but I can get it on one color. That's great. You look cool. You look, but anyway, my, my whole point was this is looking in this light looks a lot like a rosé to me. Yeah. Sure. You know? Yeah, why not?

Which is just the opposite. It's just the opposite way they make it. It's fine. Lamar, have you been to this place called Alma's? Alma's not. Cider Bar. It's a cider bar and it's on, I want to say, Virgil? Yep. Yeah. Oh, really? No, I've never i've never heard it's just south of the virgil so it's a cider bar they do have some beers the the guy

who owns it was like i was sick of going to bars that had 30 beers and two ciders so i just flipped yeah so there's just like they have tons of ciders and And if you want stanky, man, that's, they, I mean, you just said you were trying to dial down stanky, but if you ever want to dial it back up, go to Alma's. That makes, that's perfect, Jeff, because the cider, that taste, I get stanky with it. Yeah, that's like fruit wine. It's like all the weird variant stuff, which is like a lot of things can have alcohol in them

that aren't like lagers and pilsners. I got to check that out because I love cider. Yeah, uh you're right they'd only have like one option for that yeah now lamar do you like do you like cocktails and beer as well or is it wine is your top uh so yeah well speaking of grand crew we could talk if you want to talk about that we can yes let's get i want to hear the dawn of your whole relationship with wine where it it started and all of it. The story of Grand Cru is part of that. To answer your question, we'll work our way back. I'm fully a tequila person.

I mean, I am getting back into wine slowly. But we started going to me. This was right. Like back in 2015, me, the homie field, Jackson, y'all know Phil and, uh, and my homie called Tart and Aaron Covington. And we were like a group of black dudes who were trying to try out wine, but it was like, uh, that place was so cool. Cause they never made you feel like, even if you didn't know what the hell you were doing, they didn't make it.

It was the one wine place that was just like, we're going to help you through this. And we just would go in there and we were all like it was kind of around the time we all first started working in the industry. And it became this like almost like therapy group where we will be like, man, fucking like this writer's room is tough or whatever. And we'll be able to talk to each other about it and stuff. And it became like, you know, like our kind of sanctuary. So we go there all the time or whatever. And then, yeah. And then I was, we all kind of got into wine together.

I made this album called Wine Bars because I was, and I got really into wine during the pandemic. It was not healthy but yeah right hey we started a whole fucking podcast about alcohol I was gonna ask y'all did y'all do this like did this start during the pandemic like you know why because it feels like this is something I was doing a lot during the pandemic like drinking and being on zoom zoom screen drunk is exactly yeah I was like why does this feel so familiar yeah i know i remember doing like three hour long zoom things with like just like a gang

of like ucb friends or whatever people you don't you don't see all the time and it's just like whoever could like show people show up and leave whatever then you'd have like maybe nine or twelve squares on the screen you don't even have to feel like you have to talk it was just on yeah it was just like seeing someone who you know but i would think by the time it was done i'd be like drunk by myself in my apartment and i'd close my laptop and i'd be like if an alien was looking at me they would just see like a dude getting hammered and looking at his laptop for three or four hours and going to bed they'd say the same thing you know how those we don't know how those ships work yeah they do that same shit they'd be like oh they're only here on this technical journey well yo these are you not lying jeff because i it's like i'll just be i would never

be accountable for what i'm doing i'm just sitting on the zoom just taking it and then that shit would end and then i'd be alone by myself like i'm fucked up right now yeah that's how you stand up in like two hours yeah uh but i so one thing i did um when i when it was like a little safer like not like a little bit after the first round of all that all the virus and shit the um you know people were trying to figure out things to do outside and hang out one of the things i I figured out we could do was go to the winery because it's,

it is like an open, they're all outside. So, me and the homies went up to, went up to San Luis, I can never say this right, San Luis Obispo,

something like that. San Luis Obispo Beach. Yeah. The San Luis Obispo Beach disaster. disaster but yeah we went up to up there and we just went to every fucking winery right so i'm like we're just hopping around and i'm every i'm loving it because i'm like i'm thinking i know about wine and shit because i started you know we started getting into it and i'm just signing they like you want to sign up for a club and i'm like hell yeah i don't even know what it means really I'm just like man sign me up or whatever

so I'm just signing up for every winery and that shit and this is a nightmare because it's basically taking money out of my account and they're sending me boxes of wine like every month and then so I'm just I was but I'm in the pandemic yeah yeah it's during the pandemic so I'm just drinking fucking bottles of this wine like i'm just like it was just it wouldn't stop coming like because i wouldn't even get through it it would just be like yeah just stacking crates of wine wait a minute this sounds familiar either you've told me this before or carl had the same thing would carl have been getting those yeah he was with me because he came with me on the trip and we both were like yo sign us up sign

me up to the motherfucking club because i'm thinking like i'm thinking like i want to be in the club i want to be like a wine guy now and uh and i didn't realize it was gonna send me i mean in a way it was cool because it would send you one of each varietal like and educate you be like here's like a pinot noir peanut kaya frog all this shit so i'm feeling real classy but it's during the pandemic so i'm like thinking that oh it's better than drinking alcohol drinking liquor or whatever like that's gonna be healthier and then uh so i just i just was drinking a lot of it and but i got really into wine doing that because i was really actually learning about the different types because it was just so many different types coming but um but then we did uh oh yeah grant crew so yeah so then uh they phil wrote a show about about us

kind of connecting at this wine bar and uh and he uh yeah he sold it to nbc or whatever and we uh and we he was always talking about it and he originally the title was uh cheers n word i'm gonna say it on here but it was i don't. I don't even know how that would have worked, but, um, but, uh, but yeah, like I had dropped, I was, we were all into wine sincerely at the time, like really into it. I thought I'd be into it the rest of my life. And then I wrote the album wine bars. Cause I wrote, I wrote the album while all that wine was coming to my, it was during a pandemic and the whole album was like, I wanted to do like a rap album that it was during a pandemic and the whole album was like i wanted to do like a rap album that you could play at a wine bar it was like the idea and then

and then uh so and then right after i dropped the album that's when i got hired on grand cruz it was like right into that and we were just constantly hang like all the writers like we would kind of hang out at the wine bar to get to know each other and stuff and it was great we were all connecting on wine and then uh yeah they had to say a great show it was a beautiful show yeah by the end of it i definitely got tired of wine not because of the show but i think i just i think uh i was just getting oh i get i get older i get acid reflex and wine was just giving me insane after the reflex and i was like yeah man fuck this so i got back on the tequila and that shit that's a clean drunk right there i'm like wait a little more how do you drink tequila you go you go straight or rocks or you mix it with i do uh straight or neat if uh unless they

got the big rock but i like one big rock right uh but yeah i usually go pretty high up or like i try i try this uh tequila called tequila ochcho that I love. You mentioned it on the record. I know Ocho. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. See, I rap what I know. I rap my life.

But yeah, so that and Fortaleza, some other shit. But yeah. Nice. I didn't know about that. That's so cool that uh like had the attitude of like we'll welcome you in and like if you don't know about wine we'll we're not snotty about or snooty about it when when you order there they bring you to you know like you say what you're in the mood for and they bring you to and they pour you to and you get to pick so you're like

automatically learning even if you don't want to that's that's cool i i uh because i think that's the big barrier with wine right it's like yeah yeah and the menu always changed so you never really can go in there confident anyway even if you know about wine you're like they got to tell you what they got anyway so you just you know it's like all right you never feel like because you know when i order at the bar i feel like i'm being annoying like i'm being like oh i can't uh they're like i don't know what I want. They're stressed out or whatever. It goes to show you, you be nice to people,

they're going to make a TV show about you. Every time. Yeah, yeah. Every time. It's guaranteed. Restaurants, be nice to your servers or your people because they could be making a TV show about you. Go ahead.

Go ahead, Timmy. Well, I was going to say that uh do you guys did you order isn't that a thing that happens that you can get the food from next door yeah on sunday on brunch i used to do that for breakfast like we would go get the and then bring them into the into which is cool because they also they have their own food like charcuterie and stuff but then they allow you to bring food in which a lot of places don't if they have food so but then so so phil creates a show he hires you to write for it casts carl in it now it's on nbc two seasons were you are did could you keep going to or did that show kind of blow up your spot and you and

that was no longer a good place for your friend group to hang because it was the exterior right no no it was uh so actually this it was gold line so the the bar at the inside so if you go to gold line in holland park it looks just like every time i go there i i have a hard time because i'm like i feel like i'm at work or like i got my right it looks that shit look just like the set it looks just like it they modeled the inside after it yeah but uh never honestly like

this is probably the first we don't even really talk about it because people probably gonna start pulling up there like and they go okay because we meet up there every day but like uh we never really uh we bleeped it before yeah we won't talk to you yeah bleep it we'll bleep away we bleeped it before yeah we won't yeah yeah bleep it because the motherfuckers start pulling up but uh no it's yeah whatever but yeah it might

be better yeah they um but uh you know we um we kept going it was like a situation where it would be like we would be at uh work all day in the room talking about you know talking about being at a wine bar talking about like everything and then and then all my friends worked in the room so we would the people who like aaron worked there too so we were all the same crew in the room and we'd be like what do you want to do after work and it's like you go to it's just like it feels like you're never off work it's just the way and every single time you're there you're going this gives me an idea for an episode basically yeah that's what happened you know what it's and i'm like it's not that it was i mean it was one of the best rooms ever worked it worked on but it was like the the you know you're sitting

there you're thinking of ideas are coming up and you're like, well, I'm sitting right next to the show writer. I should just tell him this idea. But also I'm like, I want to talk about other shit too. So that became that was the only issue, but it was still the number one spot where I'll be up there. I was there

yesterday. That was great. What a fun time having a show with your very best friends. Yeah, we all recommend it. Hey, you guys did that. I'd like to do that one day in my life. Highly recommended folks. If you can swing it. Now, when, when we had the birthday boys show and we'd be hanging out in the writer's room and then it was time to hang out,

I'd try to get everyone to go to hot and juicy crawfish, get bags of crawfish and get, uh, put bibs on and reach i got us there maybe twice twice but i wanted that to be our watering hole it was tough because if you went there you kind of had to go immediately home to like you put on gloves and like somehow the sauce gets through the gloves and you're like sweating the gloves and you're picking it that's a terrible experience there's a place like that around me right now that I've been wanting to go to, but I just need the right crew and at the right time. You're looking at the crew.

Because not everyone wants to go to those types of places. A messy place. My sister loves that place. Really? They have it in Atlanta. They have one in Atlanta. It's like her favorite spot. I love the taste of it.

Yeah. I mean, it's a beautiful thing what they're doing, you know? It is a beautiful thing. It's all in the same pot. I love that. I, like, I'm pretty fumbly and clumsy with the shells and stuff, but I like watching somebody that maybe grew up in a coastal place where like, because they also have shrimp and everything there and crab and stuff.

I love watching somebody like disassemble a crab really fast because me when i eat crab i mean all shell you gotta watch a pro it's like watching your dad put on a tie and you're like god he's fast yeah that took me back that took me back that took me way back hey i saw your i'm i i don't know if i can't say if i met your dad i think i maybe shook your dad's hand at new year's one year a couple years ago oh yeah yeah he was up in that killer did your dad come out i had a uh i had a new year's party oh my dad was there. Yeah, he pulled, he pulled. Yeah, you see me. No, he, yeah, I had like this big New Year's party. And he was, my dad and my stepmom pulled up. They came in town for it.

It was cool. It's in Atlanta? Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah, they love it there. To this day? To this very day. But yeah, they, I think they mentioned you actually. No, I don't know.

I can't remember. But we went out the next morning and we were like, I was like, I wanted to get their take on it. All my friends. It was like, tell me what you think of this person. Let's talk shit. Yeah. I love it. They like everybody. It was cool. It was cool to see. It was kind of a cool like moment. Cause I was like, uh, you could tell him the wine's kicking in cause I'm just rambling now. because I was like,

you can tell DeWine's kicking in because I'm just rambling now. No, it's perfect. It's perfect. The, we, you know, when my dad,

when I first left Atlanta to LA, I don't think he wanted me to go. Like, I think he didn't think it was going to work out, you know? And it's like that interesting thing

where you leave, like you leave with like nothing. I'm like staying on a homie's couch out here and then for him to come out and see this New Year's party where it's like, I built this entire community or whatever. It was like, yeah, you can tell, you can tell he was like, damn,

this is what you did this. You ain't believe in me. She was awesome. I think it's funny how my parents are great and they're supportive and proud of me too. But isn't it funny trying to explain UCB to a parent that hasn't come to see it yet? I always think back on how stupid, like me at like 24 thinking, like telling my parents, like, oh, I'm doing stuff at UCB. And they're like, okay, we don't know what that is.

And then like a couple months later calling me like, so now I'm directing a mod team and they're like what's what's that and where is that i'm like well it's at ucb like that's the same that's the same building that you're at every night but i get 60 dollars a week now i mean my parents all the whole time we were there doing like the monthly show for like seven straight years they were like shouldn't they be paying you for this which it was only four it's only four really for for the monthly show yeah yeah oh shit felt like forever um but uh and you know yeah that that shouldn't they be paying you would come to a head it would it would uh turn out but um it's funny like when we had the tv show that if they get it it clicks because it's like oh we know what what

a tv show is and this is all leading up to this and then afterwards you know i'm working on like doing these albums with these guys and i'm like yeah we just played you know the satellite well we just did another show at the satellite and they're like cool how's work like that's your hobby right and i was like yeah but like the last hobby turned into a fucking tv show. Give me some credit. Yeah. Give me some time. That is funny. That is the funny life of an artist.

Like, it's like you get successful at one thing and I'm like, I'm just like, all right, now I'm going to do something that's not paying me at all. Like try to do it again. And now it's harder, so much harder to explain. Look at my mom. I'm like, yeah. I was like, I got to share with the Slabby Boys next week. boys next week and they're like and she's like wait are you writing on it she probably lost it she probably was fucking how did you fucking get tickets and then i think it's funny like no

they're comedians but they do music too i'm also doing music as well now so i'm doing that like my parents are supportive but but like they just you know it's a different a whole different like way of going about life yeah but my dad did get into he was they were really in the grand crew to the point where he me and him got on this actually speaking of orange wine like we we decided we had met this guy who had an orange wine uh winery up in santa barbara and we were trying to come up with like a campaign to basically I was trying to figure out how to be like the orange wine brand ambassador and like yeah because my dad's like a he's like a business guy like a smuggles in a county like a smart guy so he was trying to we were trying

to figure out a business plan to like basically be like how do we make orange wine like the wine of a comedy writer? Oh, yeah, that's good. We would do commercials where I'm trying to write a bit, and then I would sip on the wine. None of this happened. We didn't do it, but I was thinking about it. I mean, I think it could have worked, but I don't know. Yeah, it just didn't follow up.

You had a video that cracked me up where you were like, you know, it was like a music video but in it you were acknowledged as like lamar the hollywood writer and you were helping like an older woman oh yeah you have to go oh yeah it was like a sunset that happened all the time but it was the seductive yeah that was so great yeah okay shout out to casey faye directed that oh great job casey i was trying to uh recreate sunset but yeah that is kind of how it goes though which is kind of funny it just feels like that is kind of like what it's like that is you you you have that like you get paired up with someone if somebody's thinking about getting into tv and they want to talk to a writer you go meet with them that's like a part of your life right

yeah like you know it doesn't happen as much anymore but i think in the beginning it would be a lot of like so and so needs a writer uh do you want to meet them and then we would meet and then get to know each other and they would have like not really an idea of anything but they they would say like basically like come up help me fix this and then or help me come up with a writer version of this what this is and then sometimes it will work out you know there's most most of the time it just ends up being it it honestly ends up they end up becoming like more of a cool friend than if anything and then we never end up making a thing together but it's a cool way to it was cool to meet people none of my shit i ended up in being friends i i directed katie perry we are not friends what the fuck it turns out uh pop stars don't like it when

you ask them to do something six times in a row eight times in a row here's my thing when that does happen and nothing that comes of it like or like okay i meet i met like t-pain or whatever like t-pain wants to make a tv show or whatever you go there and then it's like a great meeting my question is like if you saw katie like i'm wondering if i saw t-pain or if you saw katie perry would you feel like you could go talk to them because i feel like so much time has gone by where i feel like i probably yeah right he probably has no idea who i am at this point there there are those situations with celebrities where you have to be like i could either say hello and they'll know me, or

I'll have to explain how they know me. Yeah, of course. Why are you doing that? It's like, you're not going to be happy to see me. They're never psyched about that guy. It's like, oh, you're the one that shot down all my ideas. I'm like, what?

Yes, how are you? How are you guys doing on that orange wine i'm down here you see i'm good i'm on my second uh glass second class what are you on oh i stopped counting but i don't finish the whole thing before i pour more you see right yeah that is that's why wine always sort of picture picture beer too i never know have you guys heard that song orange wine no no well actually there's a couple of them now because like we mentioned this sort of like having a moment uh black odyssey's got one stella cole's got one but there's this other one i kind of didn't even want to play it on the pod oh no but you have to jeff i mean oh no

is this something our interest uh i mean it's kind of it's worth playing but um because it's rising up the charts it's not you know top 10 or anything we got a lot going on taylor and yeah you know beyonce and stuff but um here's one i found that um sam smith he's probably hanging out there somewhere i'll just i'll play if play for if you if you want to hear it yeah we do yeah absolutely we do we definitely love to We do, yeah. We would love to. What's up?

Oh no. We're back. Ready or not. Tiny Tony. Here I come. So slime. It's slime time, bitch. Oh no.

Kicking back with some orange wine. Did you get that wine? It's easy time, bitch. Oh, no. Kicking back with some orange wine. Did you get that wine? It's easy to find. Steal a bottle of white from your dad's collection. And add a little bit of that orange complexion. Red food coloring. Two drops. Yellow food coloring.

I don't make it if it don't blink. Now, come on, Tony. Let's do this dancing. Down, Daniel. Don't lick it if it don't clean clean Now come on Tony, let's do this dance thing Damn Daniel Damn Daniel Damn Daniel Damn Daniel Back at it again with the orange wine Orange, orange wine

Orange, orange wine Over a billion, three hundred million, trillion, three hundred million dollars Trump just talks the talk. We walk the walk. Oh, no, no, no. I'm so sorry. I know. I hated that.

Little Tony and Sir Slime? That's Tiny Tony and Sir Slime, Seals and Crofts Jr. Oh. Right. They did that Seabreeze song a while ago, and we haven't heard from them in a while, or anybody like them.

And then their sons teamed up to be a musical duo as well. Right. Seals Jr. and Crofts Jr. Now, Lamar, these are artists who have, unfortunately, graced our airwaves before. These are terrible artists that we've come across. Jeff seems to know these guys better than we do. No, I don't.

I like the buildup, though. The buildup was kind of dope. It was getting there. They're getting better. They're getting better. Yeah, they're getting older, getting more complicated. Some information was wrong. Take some white wine and put the orange.

Yeah, it didn't hit as well after Mike had explained how it worked before. It's like the context of having like the real information. They could have used Mike's lecture for sure. Yeah, they said it was white wine with red food coloring and yellow food coloring makes orange wine. That's yeah, that's no, that's wrong. That's not right. That's also, Seals and Croft Jr. needs to, we need to stop. This Nepo stuff is disgusting.

Yes. It's bad. Hey, but I'll tell you what's good. That was an example of bad music. But Lamar, there's a line in one of your songs that hit me. And I said, this is a this is very sloppy boys adjacent line and uh it says uh give him a ribeye red wine some mushroom sauce i've been wrapping since i had a spider-man on my drawers we ribeye is my favorite food jeff and mike uh love spider-man mike you're you're a thwap thwap kind of guy right yeah i got the i got the video game spider-man 2 but i fell off for fortnight i'm i'm hooked on fortnight um but it made me

wonder about food uh hanging out at wine bars wine pairs well with food are are you uh into food as well and what do you like to eat while you're drinking wine? Yeah, absolutely. Red, red by red mushroom sauce for sure. I love, I love steak. I love steaks. That's not my favorite food. And, uh,

I love the wine pairing with steak. I mean, Tim's the steak guy over here, but yeah, but he does martini. I'm specifically, specifically, I eat 30 ribeyes a year.

Um, and, um, I would, if I were to pick, I would probably say Musso and Frank, because I also just love the whole hundred-year-old kind of vibe of the place. But I love like a whiny mushroom sauce, but I'm almost like,

if I pay like 60 bucks for a steak, I'm afraid to put anything on it. So I'll order all the blue cheese thing, like in little gravy boats, like the little metal gravy boats, you can have like bearnaise or au poivre or all those on the side. And then I'll, I'll put a little dab on each bite as I go. Yo, you speaking my language cousin.

I do the exact same shit. Like, I'd be like, I do like, I don't even want, don't touch this steak, but I'll like, I just need it there for my own anxiety.

Like I need those sauces around. And then I'll be like, I'll be dipping a man that peppercorn. Oh, let me get a little, but I don't go crazy. But I honestly the red wine mushroom sauce was something I never did at restaurants. I actually, it was something I just learned how to cook on my own. Cause I've been, I've been cooking a lot of steak at the house just cause

I've been thinking, just trying to figure out like how they do it like to see if i can match it or whatever are you on a grill or a frying pan uh the cast iron all day yeah cast iron with the garlic and the rosemary yeah i'm always afraid to bust out my uh cast iron pan because oh boy does it stink up a house like you you're gonna smell like your apartment's gonna smell like beef for like four days after that that because you're like burning it basically it gets it's like a thousand degrees yeah i don't mind i mean i live a lot ain't nobody in here i'm just i mean i mean i was just like sitting there with the steak but sometimes i don't cook steaks my man yeah i leave it overnight and that garlic and a rosemary still sitting in a cast iron.

Oh, shit. It sometimes smells a little gross, but I kind of like it sometimes. But I feel you on miso and franks, though. It's great. That's a great spot. Cast iron, you got it. You can't like put water on it or suds or anything. You got to use it.

You kind of oil it. You want to stay seasoned, right? So you don't ever want to wash this. That's cool. I put a salt, like a coarse, kosher salt on it to keep it clean. And then you just dry wipe it or what? No, you can water it. You can wash it.

You just have to dry it right away because it'll rust. It'll turn orange and stuff. That's such a thing with chefs that I saw a really funny, uh, trolly tweet recently where someone was like, uh, had just made another delicious meal by cast iron pan. And then it was like a picture of them putting into the dishwasher and then like 1 million replies like, no, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that.

They go ham on you. Uh, what do you, let me ask you, do you do you do uh do you do pair do you pair wine with steak or how you feel about that or not i mean i'm i'm a martini guy when it comes to steak because i eat the whole steak and then it's sitting in my stomach and then a really cold martini sip goes and cuts right through it but yeah if i uh i don't know much about wine but if i'm if i feel like i've i've had two martinis and maybe i should allow the entrees here i will say uh you gotta would you recommend a dry red wine because i don't really want something sweet and cabernet with a steak so i'm like yeah is there a pinot that's like tannic and grippy and that type of thing yeah i should do that i

should do the pinot a lot but i i a lot, but it doesn't hit the same, so I've been kind of like going back to beer. I'll just be like, I'll get a steak and a Heineken beer. No, Lamar, you can't cut through a steak in your stomach with beer. It's going to bounce right off. I mean, if I got gas all night, man,

I'd be like, I I gotta figure out my stomach but yeah it's crazy I'd be you'd be hooking up I'd be hooking up with you know whatever I don't know what I'm talking about but yeah you'd be in the bedroom and shit and it'd be like man you go to the bathroom you'd just be like farting your ass it's crazy

I'm just like I gotta stop eating all this shit I'm like really at the stage i guess i'm at the age where i'm like this becoming self-aware of like all my physical health problems so limitations yeah yeah and then you think in terms of cause and effect when you're young you're like oh i'm sick weird but like at our age you're like oh i ate something and now i feel something yeah what do you think about me on that konjac kick? I was looking in the mirror and I didn't like the person I saw.

Mike, I googled that shit while we was pouring wine and shit. That shit was disgusting. Just the root came up. The konjac root. It looked nasty. Don't eat that. You need the noodle. Alright. Don't fuck it up. Alright, let's take a little break and we'll come back with our final thoughts folks listen to the ads they're coming at you

we're back with orange wine and our final thoughts lamar you kick it off would you order it again probably a year ago i stopped drinking orange wine completely i just was like this shit is really a fucking trend but now you're back in completely i'm back in this one because it's not too funky it's not too hard to drink it's smooth and it's got the vibe but like you guys were saying a vibe of a chardonn, but with the fun of an orange wine to get the feel like I'm having some fun. I'll tell you, it goes down quick, too. Do we give it a rating?

Like three sloppies or something like that. Well, you can tell how it's affecting me because I just cut off Lamar in mid-sentence going, and it goes down quick, too. I give it three sloppies as well. Three sloppies as well. I give it three sloppies as well. Three sloppies as well. I give this, yeah, I give this three sloppies. I think, I'm not a big wine person, but I do, when I find a wine I'm enjoying, I like it. I like this.

I will order this when I, it's an order again for me. I'll order this if I'm with a bunch of basic people like hey let's get orange wine they'll think i'm a king and then if i'm with wine snobs i won't even mention orange wine why because they're on to the next if you're with wine snobs just keep your mouth shut my wine snobs i'm just i shouldn't even be there i'm looking for the exits but what are you doing with them i should be back with the basics impressing them with orange wine mike you weren't with me and jeff when we were in napa we did a fancy wine tasting all the way we were drinking like 400 bottles of wine oh yes yes and the guy would pour us some and then be like what do you think and like us having like we were having a blast and it tasted delicious but like all we had to say was like it's delicious real good job on this one real good job have some more and then you get lulled

into this lamar i don't know if this happened to you when you were visiting the vineyards but like i uh was so charmed by the place that then they give you that sheet to order and and the wine that i ordered i went for like 110 bottle i'm $30 bottle of wine guy, maybe 40 at the most. And I was ordering $110 bottles of wine for no reason, but because I was like, I guess this is my new life. And it just feels, it feels really important to you when you're up there. It's like, yeah, you gotta go hard. But it's so funny.

I've been watching these YouTube videos about wine. And the first thing that I learned was like price. Price is like the one thing that doesn't matter. Or like I didn't realize like, oh, like you could have a good wine that's cheap. It wouldn't even matter like how much it costs. Like that's like it's like completely irrelevant to how they make it, which is kind of specific to wine, which I thought was cool. Yeah. But Tim, would you order again?

Three Sloppies. I love orange yeah but tim would you order again uh three sloppies um i love orange wine i would order it again but i i would say that um mine is all is the kind of chardonnay straightforward kind and and i i definitely prefer a stinky stanky one and i like it um cold during the day that's that's what i I like. It's an afternoon drink sitting outside with a cold, stinky orange wine is my favorite.

My one thing is I wish it was colder and that's on me. I even talked about it with Lamar. Nah, that's my fault because he told me

my bad. No, no, it's fine. He was like, should I put this in the fridge? I was like, nah, you don't have to.

I'm going to do it though. Why didn't I just do it? You threw them under the bus. My bad. I think this is so good. The next time I'm at, you know, a Covell or a Tabula Rasa or, you know, one of the many other beloved wine bars around here, I might opt for orange. How about that?

Jefferson. Four sloppies. Four sloppies. Four sloppies, nice. That you didn't know you could do for. That's what I'm saying, Jeff. This is a nice wine to order and then tell everyone around you about it. Yeah.

16 million years old. It's got the, you know, just talk, just talk. It's a white grape, red. Method. Method. Method. Now, Lamar, I don't want to get away. You're not getting away without talking about the album, my friend. Oh, man.

Okay. It's great. Ask me. It's great. It's love to hear it. Loved hearing a lot of those songs live, too. And I like hearing just about you. Yeah. It's about you. Yeah.

It's really personal. Yeah. That's what's great. I mean, when we played with you at the Lodge Room in Highland Park, it was like you, us, and Don't Stop or We'll Die. And I think that we're all kind of walking different lines of being funny, but we all want our music to be good as well. And I think that you really hit that,

that, that mix perfect. Cause there's lots of times in your songs I'm laughing, but then you had like, you, you were, you had a thing about, you rapped with like acapella just about like a panic,

having panic attacks and like, it's okay to ask for help or stuff like that. And then there's a moment like I'm, I'm standing out there with a comedy audience. Who's like being like moved. And it was amazing it was really good i was yeah go ahead sorry oh i was gonna say a lot of a lot of uh people i talked to after the show had been to our shows before but hadn't seen you perform and uh loved it oh that's really good because i was like wasn't sure because i wasn't sure because i'm like I think that's something I probably struggle with more

than I need to which is like this this thing of going from comedy to music and it's like I think we overthink it because I'm like oh they don't want they don't care about music they but it's like I like comedy and music why wouldn't they like dude we used to play we used to play the satellite and it was like night and day compared to you know, like we spent our whole 20s at UCB. But playing music on stage at UCB, we felt like just like the backyard band gang. And then you go to like satellite. And I think the difference is just subwoofers under the stage. Standing like they're there to see music.

Yeah. But like being in a music venue versus a comedy venue playing this sort of stuff that kind of straddles the line it's just once you once you go like music venue it's really hard to go back like the clubs are are where it's at yeah that's that's probably why that show was so special for me because it was just like i've never heard my music in that sounding that good yeah i was like oh this I felt like a fucking superstar but I I think

you know I think with this album I was you know I think especially with rap music because rap is very like you know

aggressive and especially the rap that I grew up off of which mostly like 90s hip hop and I think I was

when I started getting into it I got I got insecure because I've been doing comedy it I got that I got insecure as an because I've been doing comedy for so long that I like it's hard for me to believe like a lot of rap is like very like uh what's it called when you like like exaggerate it's not exaggeration in the in the music so yeah like oh like maybe I have sex with like 30 women a night but maybe I've only had sex like once this week or whatever like so I was having

a hard time writing raps because I was just like my comedy brain was making fun of me like you don't do that yeah I know this you don't want to like get caught being trying to look cool yeah if you've been doing comedy it's like what is this guy now

with us too like I don't we got to keep it light like i don't think we want to yeah be too serious that's where uh but then the hs the this album came out of that which was like highly sensitive i i am i am a highly sensitive person which was like something my therapist had diagnosed me with and i was like oh like uh I should just rap about that like and like yeah and just like express that and then and that's also funny to me because you know like because it is rap and I'm talking and I'm like talking about how sensitive I am I think that was like something that I was like oh like I don't have to hide the comedy and then I was like oh let's just go for it no that's good you just put it out front Like that's the premise and everything I do about that is like plays that

premise. That's, that's great. You got a whole concept. The humor comes out of somebody like just saying like, Hey, I, you know, the one song is about a panic attack. Like I have panic attacks and I'm funny about it and I'm funny about it. And it's like, yeah, like even in a song, even the panic act verse, I'm like, I also fuck thoughts, you know?

It's like I undercut it with, like, rap shit, because it's still, like, at the end of the day, it's still hip-hop, but I was really glad that show was important to me because I think I was insecure about, like, okay, so this is a comedy. This audience might want it. They don't know me as a musician,

so I was like oh are they gonna think i'm is it gonna feel weird if i'm being too serious but i think um i think at the end of the day like yeah it's all it's all just us like i'm just being myself in every version of whatever it is that was it was great it was perfect um i really like that video you had lamar of like you trying to work out what songs are going to be on the album or in what order or something do you remember this oh yeah yeah so i going to be on the album or in what order or something. Do you remember this? Oh yeah. Yeah. So I did like a, the homie was just following me around. I got to put it out later, like a little documentary of the out,

making the album. You got to do it. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was funny. And we basically, and what's also wild is all my friends who do comedy or who do comedy are also musicians, which is crazy. Like, so Phil, which I'm so glad phil did because he was backstage he was like you want me to come out there with you like literally before the show i had no we had no plans of him coming out really yeah with the exception of the one song he's on and he was like do you want me to out there with you and i was like i was like yeah

yeah that'd be dope he just came out the whole time it was like it made such a difference but also it's like this is is the same field that I, we did a TV show together just like crazy. But, uh, uh, that video. Yeah. I was just, I did like, um, so the way I did this album was I recorded like, uh, I think I recorded like 40 songs for this album and I needed to narrow it down to like 15 or so and then I I just did like the whole day I booked like an Airbnb and I just did like three groups of different friend groups and they were all like curated too like it was like I had my nerdy white friends and then I had

my like my close best friends who were just gonna tell me that it's good no matter what I saved uh those the one you saw with carl phil and my homie pug was like all right he's my like i got they got it if they don't like it then we're in trouble but um and yeah so i just did it all day and i played them all 40 songs and then they helped me they kind of just told me the ones they like and they helped me what did you play it on did you like brit wheel a sound system yeah no it was uh the airbnb i had had a or i guess it was more of a studio airbnb so you can record music in there so i just basically like it basically was a studio like a recording that's cool yeah

uh it was helpful yeah it was dope yeah and it was especially 40 tracks holy shit that's you got to release them all like taylor now yeah yeah what's her album called poets of a poets of a tortured like Artist. Poets Department. I'll call it something like that. But no, I love this album. If you're listening and you... Can I promote it now? Yes, time.

Do it now. If you want to hear it, because I want to get this... I've been learning how to promote music, which is also new. But here's what you can do. You can check it out on Spotify Apple title wherever you listen to music it's called highly sensitive person and my name is Lamar Woods you'll find it there but also if you want to buy the album from me directly just go to my website lamar-woods.com and you can buy the album from me and that would mean a lot to me because i that's how we do it that's how we do it over here you know i mean

it just reminded me you just saying your name remind me of we had carl on here and he talked uh cabernet and uh we were talking about one of your songs and he was talking about how uh you you were like what do you want to be named uh in the in the you know on the track and he said wancho cash and then but then the song came out and it was like wanch you were like, what do you want to be named on the track? And he said, Wancho Cash. But then the song came out and it was like, Wancho Cash and Lamar Woods. I feel like that, seeing that written out, it's like it says a lot about our relationship.

I didn't see any Wancho Cash on this or hear any Wancho Cash on this new album, did I? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know what happened there, but he definitely was helping me in the feedback documentary part. And at the live show, he was DJing because he's like a trained DJ.

Yeah, he's DJing now. So yeah, he DJed. He went to like DJ school. He's certified. No, I love having him on. I love working with him, but for some reason, he didn't make it on there i can't tell you why um why i hope i didn't start any beef uh no no no i i realized when i said that it sounded like there was a subtext to it right no it was just

pure like it was just like it's like i feel like i feel like when uh what's it uh what's today was like oh drake didn't make the album or metro boomer was like drake didn't make the album and he was like he was like yeah it just didn't fit and it just turned into like a full beef but it was like purely like there was like no there's no reason at all it's crazy um now did i did i hear mike mitchell in the mix too oh yeah yeah so mike mitchell's on there I love that you have skits man they're so good it took me so long to realize it was Mitch I was like really and I was like

usually Mitch leans into his accent a little more or plays more of a character and I was like that sounds like Will Ferrell to me there's no way Will Ferrell's on this album but then I was like I don't know Lamar worked for NBCbc farrell was an nbc that would be insane uh no mitch was uh perfect yeah that was fun like

yeah the skits i'll wait till you hear the next shit i'm working on i'll do it that shit is gonna be skit it's gonna be more skit than album. What is that one? The Dream Boys. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be all skits and a little music. But yeah, that skit is really funny to me, the Postmates skit, because that shit constantly keeps happening. But I think he had fun. It was fun. We did it in person in the studio together. It was cool.

But there's this new racism this like a new racism going on where people think if you're black and you're by yourself they think you're a postmates person or like i was i go to i go to gelson's all the time like i go to gelson's probably like every every other night to get groceries and literally yesterday i was there and the woman i you know i go to her every fucking time and she's like she's like you're instacart right and I'm like no why would you say that I'm just a guy who lives alone food for myself and I think it's I think what it is is because I think a lot of single black I will say single minorities are doing these jobs and they're ending up in neighborhoods they're not normally in by doing that and i think

they think oh i'm not really living in this neighborhood i'm just like here because i i'm buying groceries from for someone who could live in this neighborhood very racist very racist it's racist yeah but i was a great skit gelsons is uppity that's that i'm not i don't know about gelsons gelsons yeah i gotta get out ofity. I don't know about Gelson's. Gelson's is all fucked up. Yeah, I got to get out of there. Yeah, I don't know what I'm thinking. Come on over to Albertson's, man.

The water's warm. Albertson's be whack too, though. It'd be one cashier. The line would be like, man, I can't do this. I'm in that line. They lean on self-checkout too much. I know them all by heart. Me too.

Do they know you? Lamar, I loved also Tony Baker on on your uh album oh that was great yeah his i i was same thing i was like i know that fucking voice who is that and at one turn of phrase i was like oh my god because i love his just his instagram presence is so funny yeah he's like I would say he's in my top five favorite comedians, Tony Baker. Really? Yeah, stand up. Do you know him from

working? Yeah, how'd you meet that guy? I met him, man, I met him a long time ago when I first moved to LA and we were shooting the sketches and stuff and he actually probably

was in that sketch that Ferguson, that we played at that house. Yeah. But he was just like, you know, back then, you didn't know, we didn't a you know he back then you didn't know we

didn't a lot of the black comics they didn't know about improv and sketch and stuff so they were doing stand-up and we were like come do some sketch with us and we just became really close doing that over and over again then he then i casted him and it's a party and he was in that as well uh so he's been he's like but he also is just like genuinely one of my favorite comedians it's like norm mcdonald basically oh how'd you get big gip and it's a party man that was random uh that was like uh my manager my manager at the time she they also she also repped him and sent him the script there you go but uh but no i love gip he i couldn't believe he did. That was like a dream come true.

I grew up off Goody Mob and Outkast and all that shit. So that was a good dream. There's a documentary I can't find anymore called, it's the Dungeon Family documentary. Have you seen that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Where is it?

It was on Hulu. I don't know. It was on Hulu and we were going to do it for this and I can't find it again, but that thing we were going to do it for this and i can't find it again but it was that that thing was great it's a yeah recipes rico wade he just passed away but he wanted to find his organized noise the doc is called the art of organized noise or the art yeah um yeah i hope i hope it comes back yeah it's weird how like streaming sites you could it's like all these shows just disappear.

Do they just get rid of stuff sometimes? I don't know. It's kind of weird. But that's a great documentary. That's our show. Follow us on social media at The Sloppy Boys, where we release these recipes ahead of time. And if you can't get enough boys, go to patreon.com slash thesloppyboys to get double the pleasure every week. Mike, how are you feeling? I feel good. I'm ready to record our next. Oh boy, we got another episode after this, Lamar. Timothy? Oh man. I feel good.

I'm going to pick up the slack. I'll pick up the slack from Mike in the next episode because I'm razor sharp. And also I just wanted to point out there's a funny thing that happens with my brain where lamar you have uh you have a uh virtual background zoom background on that like is putting you in this like apartment with big windows and a pool behind you and i know it's fake i've known the whole time it's fake but my brain's still like a hundred times during this hour i was like yeah it's beautiful out there he's got a a beautiful body. He's doing so good. We revered him. It really, like, even though I know it's fake, it's just like, I don't know where you're actually sitting.

So I assume that's probably pretty close. It's not close. My apartment's closer to what Mike's looks like. It's just like. Hey, well, watch yourself. This is a nice place. You should see when I turn the camera around. Olympic size swimming pool.

It's a sprawling estate. Man, y'all want to do another one? That's crazy. Yeah, we're going to do another one. But Lamar, where can we find you online? Oh, man. You can find me at ProfMatic. So P-R-O-P-H-Matic, M-A-T-I-C, on Instagram.

And then follow me there. Yeah, and that's it. That's where I'll be. Great. Awesome. Everybody check out his album and check us out here same time next week. Hey, bring a friend, why don't you? Yeah, why not?

I would like to make moves on this, getting more shows with Lamar and Don't Stop. A tour. A tour? Yeah, a tour. I was going to ask you guys generally, like, you know, how did he, because I feel like most of the audience was your fans for the most part. Let's go on a tour. I mean, we're both comedy.

Without thinking of Don't Stop, we can't talk for them. The four of us, we do comedy. Our fans, I'm sure, cross over because of podcasts and comedy fans. Yeah. Could be good. Oh, we didn't even talk about Gossip Kings. Damn. Lamar, you're so prolific.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's over, though. We finished that. We did that. We watched the last episode, and it's done. How long ago, though? That was like two months ago. Damn. A month and a half ago.

Yeah. What's next? What's next for you, Omar, on the Potosphere? I don't know, man. Take a break. Enjoy some orange wine. I like this kind because we don't have to do anything beforehand.

But watching Gossamer before... Didn't you hear Tiny Tim and Sir Slug? I mean... Jeff, what do you mean, you had to find that MP3? Yeah, you had to find that MP3? Yeah, I had to find that MP3. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's the work that you have to do. I can join y'all pod if y'all need a fourth member. You're in. Bye, everyone. Good night. Good night. Thanks, Lamar. See ya. And now to play us out, we have a song off Lamar's new album, Highly Sensitive Person. This is new album, Highly Sensitive Person.

This is track one, Highly Sensitive. Love has never been a popular movement. And no one's ever wanted really to be free. The world is held together, really it is held together. By the love of the nation of very few people. Highly sensitive person I had my first panic attack at 35 I thought I was gonna die like Ryan at the end of Drive I passed out in the middle of my living room Woke up 20 hours later, what the fuck I'm finna do?

My homie Zeke had someone I could talk to But fuck that, I ain't crazy, that's what I thought too Let's just get this salmon and wine, make sure it's wild-caught too I fuck mamas, but I also fuck thots too Tequila, mezcal, I thought I had it handled Until I started grabbing my chest like Tony Soprano My face was red, had the text back, my niggas eat They put me on your doctor, I think we really need to speak

She was fine too, short haircut was unique I started meeting with her like every single week Everything from drugs to suicide, R.I.P. my nigga Reek Sometimes you need help, but that don't make a nigga weak Let's go Sensitivity is simply A trait that People tend to be born with

It's probably significantly Genetically determined And the more sensitive you are The word sensitivity itself Comes from the Latin word For feeling The sincere means to feel So the more sensitive you are, the more you feel.

Fresh PS5, straight out the phone. They send me a text, I don't like talking on the phone. Solo trip in Madrid, got my shit on Rome. Don't take it personal, I just like to be alone. I wear my heart on my sleeve like chrome hearts. Be careful with my shit, fuck sharks, it's healing energy shit. I've been trying to love myself as long as I can remember Hot summer but it's gon' be an emotional winter Work my ass off just to buy a top model dinner

She thinks she tight cause that ass is fat and the waist is thinner Looking at me like I'm lucky to be here Yeah you bad but that attitude is trash to be clear What the fuck is self care? Shut up my nigga open mic smoking butts sitting staring at the ocean I'm sensitive nigga, but I still hope and fight that I'm always gonna shine even through a broken night my nigga Which really promotes what you call a super power creativity But that same sensitivity also makes them more susceptible to pain It comes at the same touch that would be experienced as trivial, but somebody less sensitive really might hurt the sensitive person. One two. One two. One two.

One, two One, two Doing splint, cycle, drowning in expenses Times ticking, I'm kicking it independent Avoiding the negatives in my mentions, gut wrenches As the grass always green over fences I'm trying to be happy for the homies I'm bent out of shape like macaroni I'm fixing my face, acting phony

L.A.'s mad lonely It's no these I haven't read When I'm annoyed, it means it's something I haven't said The shit I'm out. with them 50s. Sounds iffy. I've kinda found that the world renown's shifty. Look around. I should've brought some pals with me. Who's down with me? I can't tell in this foul city.