The Sloppy Boys - 222. Coffee

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

The guys enjoy a brew of a very different sort! Make a cup of hot brown and join the fun. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. Hi. And Tim Kelpakis. What is up? And we are back together all in the same room once again. Nice. Yeah, we're in LA.

We're at Jeff's place. I'll tell you what. On account of our crazy whirlwind lifestyle. Yes. And the listeners of this pod didn't even, they didn't even know. We had banked some episodes before the new year. So this was actually our very first 2025 record and they didn't even know. They didn't even know.

This is nice. Folks, there's a lot you don't know. Okay. But Churchill's breakfast in Churchill. Yeah, we did it. We did it. We did it. We did it.

We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. of the new year. So this was actually our very first 20, 25 record and they didn't even know. This is no fun. There's a lot you don't know. But Churchill's breakfast and Churchill. Yeah, we, that was, we recorded those back before Christmas. That was forever ago.

You're still talking about that. You still care about that? You've been faked out. You've been juked. You lying on the ground. You don't know shit. You've been juked and also you're wondering why like we didn't then during those episodes talk about how great New Year's Eve in Chicago was.

And oh man, that was so fun. Everyone. Thanks everyone for coming out to those shows and congratulations for seeing possibly the best sloppy boys live show to date. Best any show. Right. Had I been there, I was watching the video of it after and I was like, this is a good time. I like I love this.

I was like, this is what this is. The show that I would want to go to a New Year's Eve. We created that that it was very cool. And we also were a very cool venue that place. Reggie's. OK, so first of all, a sprawling club that reminded me of my beloved Nashville. Like many stages. Many stages and floors. You went to Winsville, like Nashville once.

Now I'm the Nashville guy. But you also came back here like, eh, the drinks were okay. The music wasn't that country and now it's your beloved Nashville. Well, you know, really Thorny's is this. When it comes to Nashville. Well, you know, really Thorny's as they say. When it comes to Nashville. It reminds me of how Stevie Van Zandt, originally in the East Street band, they called him Miami Steve. And it was because he had been to Miami. Bruce was like, Oh, Miami Steve.

He had been there one time. That's super funny. Was Bruce being funny or was he like, I think the New Jersey guys were legit impressed that like someone had left town. Isn't there like a story about a guy like that? It is like he wants to go to Miami. Miami Steve. Oh, wait, so wait. We're talking about Reggie's Reggie's Reggie.

So the venue, there's like a bar where you can play. That's the music joint. We played the rock club. Yeah, which was the first time the drums were on a riser. That was cool. We had a big high stage, a big high stage with this riser for the drums. But then also in the stands, I guess you whatever the G.A. floor was at a slope. Yes. It went slightly up towards the bar in the back.

So if you're a couple of feet back, you can actually see over the tall dude. Yeah, that was cool. That riser, it really felt like show business having you up in that riser. And all the rented gear we had was so fancy. And there were chain link fences everywhere and a sewer grate on the stage. It felt like it felt like a Ninja Turtles hideout. A Ninja Turtles hideout or a foot clan lair. Yeah, like a foot.

Yeah, yeah. We're like where what's his name? Vanilla Ice would have been rapping in the second. Yes, yes. Ninja Ninja rap. Mm hmm. But it's not as if that's the only show that we ever will ever have ever again, because coming right up the Southern double January 23rd and 24th,

we're going to be in Raleigh and Charleston. So come if you're a southeast Slop, come to that because that's a band show again. We're going to be playing music with our instruments playing with mids. Mid. That's some boys from the Dear Blanca group that we traveled with before. And they're good. They're like a sludgy rock band. That's good. And you know what's cool about us is that, is let's say you like the pod. If you like the pod, you're gonna love the band. I like the pod.

And if you like the band, you're gonna love the pod. It kind of works both ways. And these distinctions that we draw between what is this and what is that, they're starting to blur, are they not? Yeah. They're starting to blur. It's all just one giant sloppy boys,

USS sloppy boys. And look, there are forces at work. Like in a complete unknown. Oh, which we get to earlier this week. Yeah, there are people who say we've gotten to. They say, all right, boys, now this is going to be a pod show. So don't know funny business. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, this is a good point. You make Jeff. They rock the sunglasses. Clear off me. We're going on a big podcast tour in February. That's going to hit some of the, the South and the East coast and the Midwest. If you've heard, maybe you heard the live episodes we did this fall. And you're like, Oh, I get it. I know the listening experience. No, no, no, no. In the room. We do way more on the night. And then what ends up on the listening experience is the pot is the cocktail type shit. Yeah. It's sort of like, you don't

know shit folks. There's the big night. The big net has a lot of stuff that's too hot for pod. That's right. Can you believe that? So come on out second half of February, we're going to be in Austin, Atlanta, DC, Philly, New York, Boston, Toronto, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee. Cut a hay. Dang. Hey, is Milwaukee and Ferndale is Detroit. Okay. Nice. Nice. Nice. you know, nice, nice, nice.

And these are all basically would be good. Valentine's presents for your partner to my partner or just friends. I know some people a platonic Valentine's gift. You're doing Valentine's night. Go out, bring the gals out. Hey, why is the gift? While we're talking shows, folks, come out to see me, Mike Hanford in Sacramento on January.

I want to say 14th. No, 15th. And then the next day in San Francisco on the 16th. And that's why we need to sell. Oh, I got bad news. We got to sell tickets, folks. Those already happened. Ah, well, thanks for coming, folks.

The time this gets out. Thanks for coming. Not once did I mention any of these shows. These are shows I'm doing by solo. We got to lock it in 2020. Yeah, we did. That's the fucking problem. I need to we need to lock it in. Let's have like a laptop day where we all sit down with our laptops I'm just figuring that fucking thing Crack the band crack the whole thing. I just need everything in one list. You know what I mean?

If I just get my life on one list, yeah, the nice list that they oh hey coming up big ups to Santa Will this be out by the next Christmas? Will this be out by the next Christmas? No, you're mad at me. Now, hold on. What were we fucking saying? Oh, yeah. Folks, folks, folks, if you don't follow us on social media. Fuck yourself. Insane. This is a living, breathing show that happens 24 seven.

Follow us on Instagram. Blue Sky X, I guess, and Tick Tock. Let's say you don't follow the boys. Tick tock. Yeah. They say, I don't do social media. Yeah. Grab your little phone, fire it up, sign up because we got new cameras coming at

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Find the maximum squeeze. Everybody's feeling a pinch at the page around these days. It's funny. Everyone is. So yeah, do that to yourself. I got pinched at the pump the other day. Oh yeah? Yeah, somebody came up to me and was like, oh, this is kind of expensive. They're like, shut up. Yeah, I got pinched at the pump, the penis pump.

Stop it. His penis pump pitches just a bit. He's like, that's a catheter, dude. Wow. And I can fit. Can I tell a car story? Pumped. What is this car talk? Yeah, we're in L.A. What is it? Clicking, clicking, clicking, clicking.

You're thinking that's not a salon. Clicking, clicking, clicking. One of the guys died years ago and there's you can still hear it. And I think it's just reruns or something. I only I've only ever heard that like on NPR, like Sunday's near Boston after church in New England, putting on like the Boston NPR and hearing it broadcast from there. Like it's, and those guys were funny. I remember Sunday in the car, going to church, listening to the clicking clack, laughing my little nuts off and then being

at church and being like, I miss clicking clack. How can clicking clack doesn't have to go to church? And then, but it's funny because I don't give a shit about cars. Nobody did, but we loved the car guys. If you think of now that's like, you listen to this show in a, you think it's a cocktail podcast, but you know, that's not really the only thing. Uh, and there's a lot of shows like that, but like car talk might be the first thing where it's like, it's a car show, but you don't just listen for the car.

They used to do a thing at the end that was like their sponsors and it was like, Yeah, our lawyers, do we cheat them and how? Yeah, yeah. Just like gag credits. Yeah, I think they had like new ones. That one I remember, but they had like some new ones each week, it seemed. Yeah, yeah.

See, now that's a good NPR show, but you know what I hate is that fucking wait, don't tell this shit. Fuck off. Wait, wait, is it called wait, wait, don't tell? Yeah, fuck it. I have only listened, I've heard that and been like it going, wait, wait? Don't tell me. Yeah, fuck it. I have only listed. I've heard that and been like, yeah, I'm

going to try to listen to this. And I'm like, I don't know what this is supposed to be. It's a jokey game show, right? Yeah, and they're doing a throwback and saying like, welcome back to the show. And you're like, you're parodying something we don't know. You're making fun of the 40s? Yeah, right.

Who's that comedian, Chris Fleming had a foot like yeah, long hair and big glass. He's been putting up a lot of funny clips. He's been on fire. He's been on like he's a he was a guy that I was aware of. And I know that he did. He did like sort of front facing camera videos that like, yeah, you see him. They were good. But then like, I like angry Chris Fleming. Yeah.

Yeah. He got pissed off recently. And he's got a lot of good. He I saw I'm not going to remember the specifics, but he was talking about. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Yeah, yeah. He got pissed off recently. He's got a lot of good, he's got great clips. I saw, I'm not going to remember the specifics, but he was talking about, uh, wait, wait, don't tell me. Oh really? Yeah. Just, do we need this? Just flipping out about it. Oh, I love it. Oh, I gotta watch that. Um, that's a, so wait, what's the other NPR thing that's old timey? The, the Opry, the grand old Opry, right? Do they still do that? I'm not sure.

Is that a National? Prairie Home Companion? I think Garrison Keeler got the boot. I'm not sure. Is that a National? Prairie Home Companion. I think Garrison Keeler got the boot. Cause he was canceled. Is that his name? Yeah, that sounds familiar. I can't remember. I have an inside scoop about him,

but I'm not allowed to say it on the air because it's so insider. Whoa! I'm telling you off-pod. How the hell are you getting inside scoops anywhere? I Googled them. I'll tell you, I get a get out with inside scooped or a... I had a basket in the front.

Bye bye. I'm gonna tell my car story. Yeah, this is all leading up to Tim's big car story I'll tell you I get to get out with inside scooped or die Tim's big car story vroom vroom. You know, I really love Albertsons in Los Feliz. Yes. Yes, sir, and it's a very Standard supermarket. There's no reason it's it's all it's it's almost a norm core Experience there. It's just yes. There's no reason that I love it as much as I do. It's not your Alassans, it's not your Arowan. Yeah, certainly. You like it because it is normcore, I bet. You don't have to go to those crazy... It's not even your Gelsens. It's a pretty standard down the middle. Right. But I do like the place and I think a lot of people in Los Feliz have a lot of pride for it as well, but here's the thing that just happened the other day. I go there all the time and I walk. The other day-

And I walk. I drove there because, oh, we were getting back from Chicago and I had stashed my car somewhere, and I got back into my car and then I drove and I was like, oh, I got to fill up my fridge. I'm going to go to Albertsons. So it's rare for me to be driving to Albertsons, but I drove to Albertsons when I'm getting out. Yeah, okay. Get out, go inside, buy the food, walk out Albertsons, walk home, forget that I drove.

Oh no. This is- That sucks. How much food did you buy? Probably not too much. I only ever buy like one bag of food because- Because you're going to walk it back. Yeah, because I'm going to walk back. This, it was funny because I was walking back really to this was a heavy load you buy

Like kind of too much, but I get back home. That's this is this is this is a Friday Like more Friday morning. Yeah Saturday comes and goes oh no, it's Sunday evening. Oh no. And I'm like, I gotta, I gotta go somewhere. I step outside. You're like, I have no fucking clue where my car is.

My car's gone. Yeah. I'm like, where's my car? I checked my app, like on the maps app for parked car, and it shows me New York. And I'm like, oh, I was in New York last week. Oh, you do that when you, that's a good idea. I don't do it, It just automatically does it.

Really? You can tell where your last like. That's a new phone. Really? Yeah. My phone does that, but I got that Apple CarPlay in my car now. So, oh yeah.

I think it's that, but you're telling me the old TeeBird's doing that? I have Apple CarPlay. The TeeBird has a fancy thing. Oh, I love. You put in a nice. Yeah. I got a CarPlay.

You put in Alpine player. The, I love that you guys have car play. I love that for you. I just would really be, just be disappointed if I found out there was horse play happening in your car. So while you're driving. Car play alone, no horse play. Cause that's all right.

Little bit of role play. Kinky baby. Okay. I'm your driver. I'm the driver. That's the role play. This is the best thing you can come up with. Yeah, there's nobody else in the car. I I'm the driver. That's the role play. This is the best thing you can come up with.

There's nobody else in the car. I'm just the driver waiting to pick someone up. Just sit there, you're jerking off. Ooh, I'm the driver. Sir, get your car out of Gelson's ears. Sir, you're jerking off in your car and saying you're a driver. I'm the driver.

I live in accent and with a lot of jerking off. You are a driver. I live right in the accent and with a lot of jerk. You are a driver. I am. You're English, we. Anyway, I get all scared. I know parked car says New York. I'm like, that's wrong. That was my it's a different car in a different state. And then I'm like, it dawns on me.

Holy fuck. And I so I walk over to Albertsons, this car, this is Sunday night after a car been sitting there since Friday morning. I'm like, is it even going to be there? Right. I'm thinking I've had my car impounded before, and I'm like, this is what lies ahead of me. Calling a phone number, finding a lot downtown, taking Uber down, paying a ticket to the city, then paying $600 to a lot.

But also it's closed on the weekend. It's so hard to wait. Yeah. Yeah. I've had that happen three day weekend. You can't take it out, but you're getting charged. Oh, so this is what's happening in my head. As I walked to Albertsons just to check if my car is still there. And then as I'm walking up, I see that T-Bird in the law and there appears to be a ticket on the on the dash. I'm

like, fine, easily paid. I walk up to it. What is it? It is a warning from Albertsons. Warning me, please, this don't try not to leave your car. That's what I got a customer fun life. That's mom and pop mentality and a corporate grocer. You like to see the signs that say toe away and all that stuff. But they're like, we're not going to give the guy a couple of days. Probably Tim Kowpak is probably it's probably someone who is like, you know what?

My resolution for the year was to be kind to my phone. That's what give people a little more slack than I usually. You're right, though. Customer for life, Tim, because Hanford and I used to live Damier Stone's Throw from Albertsons. Yeah, you'd have to be my homes to do it. But yeah. That's what he means. I'm a home stone's throw.

Stone's throw. I'm a home stone's throw. And then, but then I moved. This is my home stone's throw. I've moved twice since then. Yes. And there are other grocery stores close to me. But I make the drive to Albertsons.

Cause look, I'm making the drive anyway. But I also, I got that place down. I know where the fruits are. I know where the pickles are. I know which cashiers to avoid. The snacks, the seltzers, the booze. Ask me if I went there this morning. Tim, did you go to Albertsons? Yeah. Ask me what I bought. Would you buy one banana?

It was 17 cents. I ate it. It was the best. Did you pay? How'd you pay with it? Card. Yeah. Card on the bed for the banana. Do you also get prescriptions filled there? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I didn't know they had it. They do, they got a pharmacy, a save on. Is that new? No. Always been there my man.

Damn, damn, damn. Cars, yes. I'm glad you got your car back. Thank you. You guys wanna get into some booze news? Bip, bip, bip, bip, bip, hit it. ["The Chit Chats"] Hit it. to know. So go on, go on, go on, come on, read me those news, tell me, teach me about monks and chartreuse.

News, news, go on. I love it. That was great. What was the last thing she said? Go on? No, I said it was the last, like, bunch of words. I don't want to hear it again. Yeah, it was something like not Raikochaiji,

but that type of like cramming a big word into the business. Come on, read me those news. Tell me, teach me about monks and chartreuse. Monks and chartreuse. Monks and chartreuse. Monks and chartreuse. Monks and chartreuse. I love that. Very good. That was great.

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Yep. Have you heard a band called Cub? No. No. Well, that reminded me of Cub Cub Cub C.B. It's like I know nothing about it other than I've heard a song on Spotify. It sounds to me like a 90s or late or early 2000s female like alternative band.

Oh, so cool. It's kind of cool. Yeah, it's got kind of like a light poppy core sound, but it's a little harder. You're saying it sounds like 90s alt rock? Kind of, but I just don't. But it's a little newer and I don't know anything about it. But Cub, I like check him out. I like hearing the zoomers do 90s alt rock like mama. That band mama.

Ooh, mama, I'll tell you children. Denzig. Oh, you know, Glenn, you know, the Glenn, I go by Danzig too. If my name was Glenn, um, you know, uh, fade into you by Mazzie star. Yeah, that's a good song. Always, always, uh, loved that song. Clearly a big influence on lover by Taylor Swift. Sure. I always love that song, but a big influence on Lover by Taylor Swift. Sure. I always loved that song, but never saw Mazzy Star performing.

I just saw on Instagram, spellbinding. She's like- Good maz? Like good performer? Yeah. Like, she's like really in it and she was like really young and cool. I don't know what I- I kind of thought she would be just like an old folky or something. Yeah. Anyway. Mazzy Star.

Mazzy Star is gonna be a star. 30 years later. Okay. So booze news. That's right. Yeah. I wanted, as we said, this is our first time actually being back in the new year.

So I had to, I got to do a couple of little follow-ups, kind of Campbell's clarification style. I checked the email and I checked the DMs and I've gotten a lot of feedback from the listeners. One thing I gotta say is I was wrong about milliliters, milligrams, Jeff, you were right. This, here's the thing. Well, we all knew that was messed up.

That was tough. Here's my problem. It was tough for us. I was thinking that grams are a measure of weight and liters are a measure of volume so that they can't, you know, like they wouldn't translate. Cause I was thinking of when we had the powder that- Yeah, the citric acid. Citric acid powder.

This is why I remembered it. Right. Yeah. So in that one, one case, sure, they're different because we're talking about like powder. No, they're the same. That's why I brought it up. I was like, a grand is a milliliter. I remember from the citric acid powder.

Jesus Christ. Well, as much as I don't accept that, I've learned to not push back on it. But what everyone told me in my DMs is, Tim, when it comes to liquids, like sure, some liquids are slightly heavy, you can make a black and tan, one thing goes on top and other thing goes on the bottom,

but for the most part, they're all the way to water. So it does work if you're saying like, yeah, a gram of water is a milliliter of water. So all of those measurements are based on water. Gotcha. Okay. So yeah, I remember being close enough with the powder, with the citric acid powder. It might not be exactly one to one, but when I did my thing.

I'm going to keep my mouth shut, but it's just so crazy because that's a light fine powder that takes up a lot of space, whereas water is a heavy liquid that doesn't. But isn't, we're measuring mass here, right? Mass is just the- No mass, no matter. But gram is weight and mass is leader. I mean, is- Volume.

Volume. Okay, and then the other one- Mass is volume. This was the only other one, but this was the big one that I really wanted to say because this was interesting to me. The Chinese drink Baiju, right? Yes.

And the brand that we had, which was... Wuliangye. Yes. So we knew that we were kind of doing it funny. We were like drinking it on an empty stomach in the middle of the day and we got all drunk and stuff. We talked about how like, this was like a Chinese businessman drink and stuff.

But what a lot of people reached out to me, especially celebrity bartender, Jack Schramm. Wow, the Schrammer. The Schrammer. He said, dude, here's the thing. This stuff, that's some harsh shit that you guys were just taking to the dome. Really what you do is you're like, you're eating a big meal. And I joked, I said, a succulent Chinese meal?

He said, yes, a succulent Chinese meal. You're eating and you're having little shots of it. You're having like little like half ounce shots of it during your giant Chinese feast. That's why it's crazy strong. You're having it because it's like, talk about xin, you know, like this is a knifey taste, but it's really strong. It gets you drunk. It's and getting you drunk while you're having a big heavy meal. And he's like, I'm telling you, try it that way. I think that's like I mean, the taste changes. The taste was so there's also by that is

not as crazy like, right. Like we talked about it. We covered it. Yeah, this was a high proof. Yeah. And like, but there's there's more common ones that are weaker and less pungent. Wow. Yes. And speaking of that, so a lot of people then said the same thing. Jack said they were like, you guys, you got to be eating a big meal and have this during your big ass meal. And that's the context. That's cool. And cool. I don't think we should try it again, but

it would kind of like taint the meal for you, wouldn't it? Like, I would think that's such a strong taste. That's like, you're not just sneaking in a little digestif. That's like you're introducing quite a flavor. I think you're getting like a big pow, like a reset palette cleanse. Yikes. OK. Stripes. I just feel like this idea of eating a big pow with like a reset palette cleanse. Yikes. Okay. Stripes. I just feel like this idea of eating a big meal

with this very strong liquor can't be as popular as we think it is. Sure. I don't think it's, I wouldn't say that all one billion citizens are doing it every day. How do you say this? Like the business people, if for a big business-y meal, I get that.

I think it's just that anyone that knew anything about this liquid that listened to our episode was like, they're being pretty weird. Like just that at least is not that you have to like it or you have to do it, but like that is what this meant for. But now back to your thing, Jay. They're being pretty weird. The businessman thing.

I read a little more about the- Further reading. The Chinese business drinking culture is fascinating because here's what I learned. Toxic. They believe, we were saying it's sort of like, it was like a gift you give or something like that, or like, it was like a bonding thing.

You're taking me all the way back to Christmas. Yeah. A couple of weeks ago. I get a gift you get. Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy. It's what I'm getting. Let the listener know Mike puts his hand over his chest, over his heart. Everything. Well, that's your love language, right? Yeah. Give it.

Give it to me. You know, I care for you. I see you and I put my hand over my heart. And that's it. Oh, I see. Oh, whee. And then your lover is like, Mike, are we gonna have sex? And he's like, oh no.

Oh, I couldn't. Oh, I couldn't. I love you too much. I couldn't, I couldn't. No. I just wouldn't know what to do. In my reading, and this is useless reading because I don't think we're gonna read this in this trick

because we all hated it. But what was interesting to me, and this is why I like this podcast because this was cool. There's a belief among the business world in China that alcohol, when you're drunk, that is the truest version of you. Truth serum. Yes, it's a truth serum and you're taking away all the phony baloney stuff that business people might be putting on. So they actually purposely, there's

like, hey, there's a new partner at the firm or wherever. Let's see who this guy is. You don't really trust the guy until you've been drunk with him many times and you've seen this person at their worst. And then you're like, now you and I can share a million dollar accounts. Wow.

You know what I mean? Tim, it's exactly the same way at the sloppy boys LLC. Exactly. I'm just now after a couple of times, I was getting drunk recently, like, okay, I'm ready to 15 years down the road. I'll let him have one of the checks for our bank account. That's very interesting. I'm going to see you guys sober before I make my decision. Has it happened yet? But that then, like we knew, we knew,

we talked about there's a drinking culture, but then I just thought, oh, is this like boys club type shit? But it's like there is, and maybe they also just like to get drunk, but that does make sense to me that it's like, yeah, I got drunk with you and I love your pain. It, we, I knew it was something and not just like, is it when you think about it in your like Western mindset, it is like, oh, you're just doing it to show off and be the macho guy.

It's like, who's going to finish one? Yeah, I think that too. But like hearing this is like deeper than that. Like when you when when people in the states go out like get drunk, it's not like I'm going out getting drunk with this guy so I can see who he really is. My mate's character is like I'm going drunk, I'll drink so I can get to my character. That's what I think about hungover on a Sunday morning. I'm like, I'm a true man.

I believe I didn't steal, didn't she? I I can't remember myself. Or maybe I brought this up on the that episode or I've seen it since. But on Instagram, I saw a shot of some Chinese businessmen like on the curb, like really down and out. One guy just like on his back and regular civilians give them water. Setting setting down glasses of water. Yeah, it's like a, it's a known like respected thing.

Like we're going to get you back on your feet. It's so funny. It's almost, well going on what Tim's saying, it's almost like, you're like, wow, this person who's drunk on the street in a business suit, we know he's got a high position to be this drunk. If he's And it's like and it's important.

And you're rooting for them. You're like, I'm cheering them on and supporting them by like giving them water. Like he must be working really hard at his company. Yeah. He's really devoted to his company. It's sad here. You see a drunk on the street.

Now you look down your nose at them, but there you exhaust the drunken man passed out on the street. It's funny. Cause if I went to Japan, if I was feeling thirsty, I'd be like, well, I'd just pick up one of those guys cups. I'd just lay on the ground for a little bit. I'd be like, yeah, I'm a business man. That's great booze news, Tim. That is great.

Great follow ups. Interesting stuff. And it really actually gets you thinking. But it gets you drinking. It gets me thinking, is that it for Boos News? Makes me think we should wrap it up. Ooh. See that chap over there?

Get your hand off my penis! What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal? Nicely done. Nicely done. Well, now that that's all out of the way and through, do we turn our attention to the drink of the day?

Yes. It's time. Is it different than the norm? Yeah, you bet your ass. Does that have anything to do with what month it is? Well, it's sort of the January, the driest month of the year. And so we honor that. Yes. With a little drink called coffee. Coffers.

Coffers. It's been called hot brown, hot brown mocha Java. Hopper. I mean, you know, Java. And the writer, what do we call it in the bang bang? Lifeblood of the writer. Blood of the writer. It would be like sit around and somebody's like, I'm going to grab some life by the writer.

And when he's. I mean, we need life by the writer. Anyone needs some? Do you remember when you first had coffee? Yep. Yep. I remember as a kid trying, like my mom would drink coffee and trying it and be like, no, thank you. But then I remember when I, when we worked at that graphic design place,

then I really started to do it. I think when you enter the workforce is really the thing. Cause you need something to get away from your fucking desk. I didn't like it. And I didn't like it through college. I would do like a coffee, cool, a lot of that Dunkin donuts. It's like something crazy like that. But as far as like drinking ice coffee

or like morning hot coffee, I did a youth groupie type thing in high school. We were all staying up late and that's where I sort of had my first sips getting into coffee. Then took four years off in college, not really for me, but entering the workforce and specifically working for like Buster Design and like the Greif company where I was at.

It's the lifeblood of just about everyone. Yeah. I was the same thing. I remember my first sip was, I took a sip of my parents' coffee at Dicing's Bakery in Kingston, New York, but I didn't drink it. I did the stupid, I've had stuff like this,

other stuff like this where I feel stupid that I wasn't doing it earlier. But like, I was, like when you were working at Buster, both of you guys, I was working at Gracie films and I was making the coffee for the office, but still not drinking it. I'm like 25. Making not partaking, making it up. I'm taking, but make don't partake in a big part of it. Walter white in the car.

A big part of it though was that I was like, I thought, uh, what coffee, how many creams, how many sugars? I don't know what to order. You know, it's like, but then I'm was like, I thought, coffee, how many creams, how many sugars? And I was like, I don't know, it's gonna order. But then I'm also like, I'm like, but I don't like it. I don't like the taste. And it's like, so then when I started drinking it, at Gracie at 25, I would pour myself a black coffee in a mug hot and then put a couple ice cubes in there

and then drink it. And then, but I was just- Be like, oh, this sucks. How do you do this? I think I was just neat. I was being contrarian. I was like, I don't drink it for the taste or whatever, but it's like slowly. Then you're like, Oh, milk dilutes it and the, and the, and the sugar softens the bitterness and none of it is, this is really about the taste.

You drink it and you wake up and you're just like, I used to get mad at Mitch. For the birthday boys days, He didn't drink coffee. And I was like, you know, you go through your whole life tired and groggy. And there's this magic liquid that the rest of us all drink that makes us wake up. He's like, but I don't like it. Our friend Ben is like that, too. He doesn't drink coffee. Yeah. And it's just funny.

I'm like, I was like that. And then, like from from the age of like 16 to 25, I was just tired. And then I just had some coffee. I was like, that's what it is. It always felt too adult. Yeah. Like, oh, other people need that. I'm just a kid.

And when you're in high school, it feels pretentious. Yeah. I remember people would show up and be like, oh, I haven't had my coffee. I'm like, shut up. You're a kid. Shut up. We're Ninja Turtle loving kids. Yeah.

I remember, yeah, I remember when I would leave the Fredonia house to go to work. I would like stop at the AMPM. Sometimes I fill up my get my tank and I would get their coffee all the time. And it would just be like, oh, I'm putting in the. That's when I started to find the French vanilla creamer, the hazelnut creamer. And I got on those big time. And then all of a sudden I switched back to black, or switched to black because it was too sweet, too much. And I was like, this is how you do it.

I still do, I do black coffee much like some might drink Baiju that I like, if I'm having a big breakfast, sometimes I don't want a creamy sweet coffee, you know? But then if I'm just having coffee, I'll put some stuff in it But even that is funny Like thinking of the create like there's so many different ways to approach coffee that it is funny that We were all drinking it for the first time around the same era

It was very much like the the coffee mate like we were we didn't have the money to be Starbucks guys I am PM just had all free stuff Then Starbucks was like hoity toity. Yeah. Also, we just didn't have no money. So buying anything like now, I don't think I'm fancy for like ordering grub or whatever. But like back then I didn't order any anything. Yeah. I didn't buy anything anywhere.

Never ever. I think you're back with like Starbucks. Starbucks wasn't as ubiquitous back then in like the aughts or like the late 90s. I think it was. I think that was the peak of it being like, they're opening a Starbucks inside of another Starbucks. Yeah, that's when you can like see a Starbucks. I think so. But recently they just got more like they've evolved. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think like New Hampshire didn't really have them. Maybe that's what makes sense. Late 90s is the explosion. Maybe that's what I'm waiting for. The 90s is the explosion.

Okay. But I think like, I remember going home from from LA in like 2005 or 2006 and being like, damn there's Starbucks in New Hampshire now. Damn. Takes a while to get up there. The Grant State.

So Dunkin Donuts devoted. It's like good luck putting in a Starbucks. Yeah. Live for your die is the motto. a Starbucks. Yeah, live for your dies. There's a street in my in London Dairy with four Dunkin Donuts on it. Oh, how long is this street? A thousand miles street. We call it thousand miles. Yeah, he's telling us like, yeah, only four.

But you can be like, yeah, I'm going to the Dunkin on Daniel Webster. You want anything? And I'll be like, oh, I'm right there. Oh, you're at the wrong one. I'm at this one. You know, I'm at this one, dude. Yeah, I saw this. I'm going to get this number wrong, but I saw something that was like, oh, there's like 30,000. Maybe this number is right. There's like 30,000 coffee places in America. Buddy, there's 30,000 on Hillhurst. Stop.

There's 30,000 coffee places in America and like 28,000 of them are like Starbucks and Dunkin. Like Starbucks and Dunkin together make up like the vast majority of coffee places in America. That's great. Mike, you like coffee, but due to the pressure of your blood, you don't drink it anymore.

I had to stop drinking it, but I'm excited for tonight because I haven't had a, or today I haven't had a cup of coffee in a long time. Oh, that's going to be good. I think the last one I had was, I do a PSL every season. Every one that the season rolls around. Put a PSL on those DSL's. That's right.

That's right. And they say, sir, we're going to do this one, but you can't say that anymore, you got to go. Wait, I went somewhere, where did we're going to do this one, but you can't say that anymore. You got to go. Wait, I went somewhere. Where did we just go? Oh, Chicago. This is the time. Chicago.

But we went to Chicago and this is when Kelsey and I went and we got breakfast somewhere. And Tim, your rubric for where to go to breakfast on the previous days, we're like, I just don't want to go anywhere that's like Los Feliz. And we ended up, we went to one place, it was closed. The nearby place was very Los Feliz, but very good. But they advertised having intelligentsia coffee, which was the most Chicago. Is it? And we have it in Silver Lake Junction.

I thought it was a Silver Lake. I was seeing it in Chicago. Back, back. You got it back. I know you too. But that's, but that is funny about that. Even like, yeah, like that. I think that we saw Jenny's out there too.

And then we're like, well, Jenny's is from Akron, Ohio. And then I know it as a low spiel. But that's funny, even within the niche. Hey, but on Tim breakfast day, where I didn't want to go to a bougie brunch spot, we found the best golden nugget. Oh yeah. We had some big white mugs of Joe there.

You had said to yourself, you want to get some of those. They were kind of like the curve. I got them. They're fluted. Yes. Well, fluted in a way. What's a, what's the champagne thing? That's a flute too, right?

Yeah, it's funny because a flute is actually quite straight indeed. And you wouldn't want your coffee in one because it's going to end up on your lap. Yeah, but so many holes. Fluted means like concave around the edges to me. I guess like so. It's cool. Conclave the movie. Conclave.

I got a BLT and a baked potato there. I have. A green baked potato is bad. I had a Tennessee steak and eggs. I'd never heard of Tennessee steak. It was great. It was like, not a country fried steak. It was like a lightly breaded steak with onions,

but then with my eggs and my hash browns. Boom, boom, coffee, boom, toast. Big ass plate. And hash browns. Boosh, boosh, coffee, boof, toast. Big ass plate. And then how about that? Oh, how about that fucking steak dinner we had at Chop House? Yeah, Chicago Chop House. Chicago Chop House, that was great. Hold on though, back to your,

might get the funniest plate of food I've ever seen because you got a BLT club. Ooh, yeah. So this is a triple, you know what a diner club looks like cut into the triangles. But no turkey. I think that's what would help it. Wait, what? Yeah, usually it would decker. You know what a diner club looks like cut into the triangles. But no turkey. I think that's what would help it. Wait, what? Yeah.

Usually it was a BLT. It was a BLT club. But presented like a club. But he had the frilly toothpicks and the extra bread and all the stuff. Yes. But he said instead of fries, can my potato option be a baked potato? And they said, yes. It was so funny to look at a fleet that had the iconic triangular club sandwich slices and then a baked potato.

Rather small baked potato. That was green. It was green. Right under the skin between the flesh of the potato and the skin, green. Ooh, put it back in the ground for a couple of days. There's those potatoes, I think they're Kennebec or whatever, that are yellow and I think it's one of those

but on this particular day. This particular day. It was green. But I had a baked potato at the Chop House too, and that was much better. Oh yes. Much bigger. With the big fat house bacon cubes on.

Oh yeah, and they come with the sides with all the fixings. Now there was so much Chop House, maybe we should get the drink going, and then we should do that. Right, I also want to, I have a history of coffee, but let's, I think this time we're sipping while we talk. That's fun, that's fun. We've had so much chit chat and stuff,

let's just get the coffee going. Yeah. And I'm just making it how I make it here. This is Jeff's typical morning. Oh, yeah. What are we what are we drinking? So this I do half calf because I drink a lot of no. That's good for me, though. I didn't know you had my racing. Look at it this way, Tim.

You get to drink twice as much liquid. But are you buying half calf or are you mixing decaf and regular mixing decaf and regular? Jeffing decaf and regular. Jeff, I didn't know this about you. This is... I'm on record as doing this shit. I haven't had a sip of decaf in years. I don't even really know what that tastes like.

You know your parents drink decaf? I know and I never have a sip but I make fun of them all the time for drinking it. What is, does it just taste the same or is it a little bit lifeless? No, no, it's full of life. Is it robust? Full of smells robust. Is it a little bit lifeless? No, no, it's full of life. Is it robust? It smells robust.

Is it robusta or arabica? It's got the joie de vivre that you want when you smell that cup. I could sit here and explain it or we could go to break and come back and you could experience it. Okay, let me see. Tell me the brand.

Don Francisco. Ah yes, I know it well. Second cheapest. Yeah, second cheapest. They made a good friendship. So keep it on the typical morning though. You're having some phone time in your bed while you drink two mugs of this, right?

Exactly fucking right. But you drink two mugs of half calf. That's interesting. You could have one mug of calf. You could have one mug of calf. But I'm a big consumer, Tim. I want to be drinking that much liquid. And so I've dialed down the caffeine.

You wanna take a piss. I've dialed down the caffeine to match the amount a piss. I've dialed down the caffeine to match the amount of liquid I wanna drink. Okay, I'm excited to have a Dutton blend. All right, folks, we're gonna go to break and when we come back for sips. And we're back. Warm steaming mugs in hand.

A Dutton style coffee. And also he put it in a late night with Conan O'Brien mug. I feel like a talk show guest. Hey, and well, you love that. Tim, that was your mug. What? 15 years ago, you gave it to me. That's kind of me as like a gift.

I was using it for pens and pencils. Mm hmm. And you're like, because this is back at the old house and you were like, keep it. It's more use than I got out of it. Probably before I drank coffee. Yeah, it was. And my mug is from your one of the trips you took. You know, it was like a Mexico trip. Yeah. These Bahamas. I love this pineapple. And then me, dough took, it was like a Mexico trip. You brought these back. Bahamas, that's it. I love this.

Pineapple and then me, doughboys mug. Doughboys mug, nice. Now I typically wouldn't, this is not my typical cup. I said, Jeff, make me what you make every morning. So you put oat, French vanilla oat creamer. Yes. In half-calf hopper, coffee. Half-calf hopper.

Or sips. Off the mic. Sips. Hmm. I did mine just black. Yep. Well, this tastes like French vanilla oats. It's delicious. Yeah, this is you got to decorate it.

You got to gussy it up. I'm a big decorator. This takes me back. This taste. This is taking me back. I haven't had a couple like this in a long time. And so you don't make at your home, do you Tim? You do, you got a coffee machine.

You know what's funny? Keurig? On the days I'm not going to Starbucks Reserve. Right. And having a, what do I typically get? An iced shaken espresso with oat milk and no sweetener. But on days where I'm drinking it at home, I've got a Nescafe espresso,

like with a cheapie espresso machine. Damn. So I'll do like two pods of espresso and I don't add any cream or sugar. You're like Danny DeVito and George Clooney. I'm exactly like them. I'm more like- Clooney.

Yes. Yes. Is our espresso expressos. I now I've got me doing it. Espresso is always small. Yeah. Concentrated. But I've also heard it's concentrated as far as flavor. The caffeine is not necessarily super crazy.

Espresso is the same bean ground up a little bit finer, but it's made with pressure. The Italians blasted some of their water, the steam through there. So espresso is coming out stronger. If you drink it straight, yeah, that's strong, but like for the amount it is, but like an Americano, you're basically, you just add water to it

to fill up the rest of the mug. Now it's back to regular coffee. You just turned your espresso back into coffee. Right, right. Okay. But I don't do the Americano thing. I like to I just do a little sort of bing. I on the other hand do. You Americano it up. Like when you're out, you order an Americano.

Because cold brew freaks me out. Like I think. Yeah, cold brew is stupid. Cold brew. What's the deal with cold brew? I can't tell you. If I drink too much cold brew, I me out. Like I think cold brew is stupid. Cold brew. What's the deal with cold brew? If I drink too much cold brew, I like can't read. Like it, it also tastes bad. It fucks with me like cognitively.

This this I'm already feel like a few sips in. I'm because I haven't eaten much. So your eyes are rattling. My eyes like they will be. I know I'm going to be. I think it takes 10 minutes. So that's a little bit a little Pavlovian. That could be.

But I actually, I remember a day very specifically when I was new on coffee, and also new on the band Pavement, you see? Now I was listening to them all the way into work, and I got to work and I was texting with you, I was all hopped up on coffee like crazy, and I was texting Tim like,

here's the thing about Pavement, it's like they're a rock band, but they're like so better known. I can't remember this. And I can tell, I was texting Tim like, here's the thing about pavement. It's like they're a rock, but they're like so better. I remember this. And I can tell I was like, I'm fucking like a coke head. It's like all my ideas are flowing out of me. Got you yapping. Caffeine is like

it's like in the in the the coffee plant. Caffeine is like a deterrent for insects. Like if an insect eats a little caffeine, it'll die. Like, like the leaf, it'll die. It's like poison, but for, they should use that instead of Deet. What's the poisonous stuff in, in like bug spray. They usually like a planes flight over. Well, that's the one in the nineties.

They were like, Oh, this one's got deep. It's like it's poisonous. Is it DDT? Yeah, I remember in school, it was like, be careful of DDT. Yeah, yeah. Oh, mom. And TNT. But mom, it's the only one that works.

You want roaches crawling over this house, mom? Or we get the deep. But so like caffeine would kill insects. And then for humans, it's the amount of a dose doesn't kill us. It's basically caffeine doesn't give you energy. It's blocking your receptor that feels fatigue. It's like when your body is tired and it's telling you to go to sleep,

there's this chemical that starts with an A, it's not acetaminophen, that's Tylenol. That sounds like something like that. Acetane? Acetane. I'm going to 100% say that. Acetane? So basically, we've ascertained the correct word.

Within your blood, there's an acetane receptor. I think it's aspartane is what we're trying to say. Go ahead. I know it's not this word. And I'm not going to look it up. It's up for listeners. Can I have one of our Bijou fans? Yeah, I'll have someone to talk about next week.

Apologize for it. But there's like a receptor. I was looking at images of this. You got the atom that is this tired chemical goes like, and it goes and it clicks inside this receptor that receives it and then you feel it and get tired like this is happening like a million times within your blood like in the molecule so what a caffeine thing does is it goes whoops get out of the way acetate and it goes into the receptor takes its spot so

that that that that tired chemical has nowhere to dock therefore so we're just not feeling our tiredness we We're not actually getting energy. But then also- You're kicking the can down the road. Exactly. But then also that tired chemical also gets in the way of dopamine docking as well. So caffeine says, hey, some dopamine you can get in here.

So it can also improve your mood, make you upbeat and happy and stuff. Interesting. But I looked up, I was like, if this kills insects, but this amount of dosage wouldn't kill us, how much caffeine would kill a human? Yeah. Yes, in cups of coffee.

In cups, but like a day? In a sitting. Okay. I'm gonna say 160. Jeff? I thought he was gonna go, exactly. 20. 20 say 160. Jeff. I thought he was gonna go exactly. Exactly. 20.

70. Wow. Yeah, exactly. 70 cups of coffee will kill you like you're an insect that just bit the leaf of a cafea plant. Wow. I can't imagine. This guy looks like he's an ant

that just bit the cafea plant. So, you know, if you get the jitters off one or two cups of coffee, imagine death by coffee. That's gotta be nuts. That sounds awful. We should have 69 cups of coffee, imagine death by coffee. That's gotta be nuts. That sounds awful. We should have 69 cups of coffee on the pot

and see what we do. You just explode. Yeah. You know, like if somebody were able to- You could just like vibrate across the floor. Like you'd go and say you have like a seizure or something. Is that what happens to these bugs? I think they're just biting down.

They get all zipped up though for one minute. They say, ooh right, my receptors aren't supposed to have this. See it. The legend of the myth of the history of the beginning of coffee that I was going to say before is similar to that. Basically, a thousand years ago, maybe like, let's say 850 in Ethiopia, there's this Ethiopian sheep herder guy and he's herding a bunch of goats and the goats are eating this plant and he says the goats are dancing when they eat this plant they dance. Oh wow. They've been eating these cherries from this plant and they dance around. So then he takes a bite of the cherry

he's like well, this is really that's a dry bitter cherry. I don't like it. No, I'm dancing. And he dances with the goats. Then he goes back into town, he talks to some monk and he's like, hey, these cherries, this is where the story gets very fake. That would be a great coffee shop name, a new coffee shop, Dancing with the Goats. Or Bitter Cherry. Ooh, Bitter Cherry.

Bitter Cherry. Dance with the Goats. It's a long title. It's a long name for a cup of tea. Dancing with goats, I think that would be great. It's funny to think of the dancing. So then like- The dancing goat.

Dancing. They say that then he went to this monk guy who was like, no, no, don't eat these cherries. But then he threw them in the fire and then the fire had this wonderful smell. They said, oh, maybe we'll, hey, we got to roast these or whatever. That sounds dumb. But they definitely like this plant, it's got these cherries. Like it's like coffee beans aren't beans.

They're actually just like the seed. It's like the pit of a cherry. Right, okay. Cause there's like a fleshy. Yeah. Outside. So you have to like get rid of that gross ass cherry. Like, but for a while in Ethiopia,

they were like making dried cherry bars with it or whatever. But it's funny that going from dancing, when you said you think of that you, it was really working at a job in your 20s is where you became a coffee drinker. It's funny to see how we arrived at that because it really goes from the dancy thing. It's right still like Yemen and the Middle East and stuff. Then they're making it at home and being like, well, this must be religious. We'll use this for religious ceremonies because it wakes us up when we make this coffee stuff from this shit. Then in Turkey, they start to have coffee houses and they're fun, lively, artsy places, but it's because they don't, what do you got there? A cross section of a coffee cherry.

Interesting. And like the bean, the coffee bean is like the big- It's the pit. Pit, I had no idea about this. It's a big pit? No idea, this is very interesting. When you order an espresso martini, there are three cherry pits up on the top.

Get these cherry pits up! But sir, those are, what? Those are what? You're a lot, if you're at a bar and you get an espresso martini, you can say, I request the cherry that was around these beans and they have them in the back. Save all the coffee bean flesh.

All right, go ahead. You were talking. So then you got people in the Middle East like making coffee and it's like religious or whatever. But then Turkey starts having these coffee houses and to them, the thing is Islam, you can't drink. Muslim people don't drink alcohol, right? So coffee was kind of like these like in Istanbul they're like drinking coffee and they're like, hey let's have a singer sing and they're kind of being on these lively, fun places.

And they're like, these coffee houses are kind of fun because we don't have bars to have fun. But then when it spreads to England, they're like, make it start to do the espresso thing in Italy, France is putting cream and sugar. In England, when they start to have coffee houses, British people, they have pubs. They're already getting drunk and partying.

And they probably already have tea. They already have tea. But with this shit, so they're drinking tea in the morning and then they're getting drunk all day, like all the time. So when they get coffee houses, instead of it being like a fun vibe, it takes on this intellectual vibe, because it's like, if you want to be a madman, go to the pub. But here at the coffee house, we talk about politics.

We talk about literature. At a rapid pace, I'm sure. Because the pubs, same as in America, that's your quote unquote third space. You ever heard of that term, third space? Yeah. No, what is it? How it's working? It's not your home, it's not your job.

It's like a third space. It's like a common area that people, society can function in. And a bar is functioning. Yeah. Like for me, it's your friends. I volunteer. Right, right, right. For me, it's your friend. Did I live at? For me, it's a orphanage where my boyfriend lives. For me, it's video world. Someday my third space will be video world.

But America is being right. America right now is being criticized for not having enough third spaces or not having free third space. Isolation and depression and all the stuff. Yep. Interesting. Like parks and stuff would that be considered? Parks work. Yeah. But you know, for a lot of these places, there was this, it's like a, you know, if you're on the house, it's like, Hey, get out of here. You can't be here. You gotta buy a coffee to, or if you're just a, but he's somebody trying to shoot a video. Yeah. You can't be here, Yeah. You gotta buy a coffee to, or if you're just a, somebody trying to shoot a video.

Yeah. You can't be here. But this is my third space. There's no third spaces. You say there's no beans here? Roar, roar, what? No, you can't be here. Next time I'm getting kicked out of anywhere, I'm like, but this is my third space.

What will I do? Well, you didn't say that. There are no free locations. He's like, until you make this your first space, you can't be in here shooting videos. Damn. So you live here. All right. So we're talking about pubs and people are getting drunk at the coffee houses and so they it's got an intellectual vibe because it's like, Oh, you're too good to be getting

drunk with your mates. I like that you're seeing it from the point of view of you would be one of the pub guys. Instead of being like, oh, this is an amazing thing. You're like, oh, this is fucking uppity fucking coffee. I think it's also, it's interesting about coffee that like, it's, they call it the bean belt where like the climate is right to grow it. Like it's, and it's just warm countries across South America

and Africa and stuff. The bean belt. We should do a blowout where we take a tour of the whole bean belt. I'm not wearing a bean belt. There's two different beans by the way, Arabica and Robusta. There's like two plants that make the bean.

That's why when I picked up this coffee, I said, ooh, robust. Like that's just one of those words. I is always just like a coffee word really. There's a town in Yemen called Mocha where they imported it. There's a place in the East Indian Islands where it was like the Pacific Islands called Java. So all these words.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. These words, these words. Michael Richer. Easy, buddy. Easy over there. What? He made a good point. He did not.

I know, but getting to the work. So like it's being exported from these warm countries to all these places, but then like, you know, colonization takes it everywhere. You know, like when, when Brits take over Jamaica and now suddenly there's Jamaican coffee or when Spanish people take over Cuban, now there's Cuban coffee. Would you say that a weekend update has sort of gone through a colonization? Almost. Almost got him. He's in my nice chair. I would just say it's gone through a chayonation. At this chayon age, there's a little bit of colonization.

Oh man, I hope they bring us into the studio for the SNL 50. They're gonna. They will. I'll think I can talk about this on pod. A reporter from New York magazine reached out to me. Oh yeah. He said he's writing a piece of profile of Lorne Michaels and he wanted to talk to me about Lorne Michaels. It's about time somebody write about Lorne Michaels. Yeah, well nobody knows anything about the guy. They got to come to the source. So I told the guy, I was like, well, you know, I've only talked to him a couple of times that I only worked for her for two weeks. Yeah, to fill people in, Tim had a brief tenure there for like a two week. Two week guest writer in 2018 at the end of a season when they let some guest writers

come in. So you show up, you give your two week notice. They're like, thanks for letting us know. of a season when they let some guest writers come. So you show up, you give your two week notice. Yeah. They're like, thanks. Thanks for letting us know. Like, here's your incoming pay. Here's your next guy. My second successor. Your two weeks.

You're so much your stuff out of the cardboard box. I'm like, where's the men's room there? OK, so the men's room. Well, you weren't there at the end of the like the last two of the season, right? He was there. There was one more after I was there for Donald Glover and Amy Schumer. Well, you weren't there at the end of the like the last two of the season, right? Um, there was one more after I was there for Donald Glover and Amy Schumer. And I think there was a Tina Fey right after. Oh, yeah, because Tina popped in to like start working on a pre tape sketch. And I pitched a joke, got kind of a little chuckle out of a polite chuckle.

Out of Tina. Oh, God, that's kind of like I would take that to the grave. Yes, I did. She said my name. Oh, God, that's great. She kinda liked it. I would take that to the grave. Yes. I did. She said my name. She's like, and you're Tim? She's like, Tim. I was like, are you laughing at my picture, my name? Wait, she's Greek, right?

Shit, I could have been all talking Christos Anesti with you. Does she have, is Faye a shortened version of a name or a different name? Faye Pachas. No, it's, wait. I'm thinking of Anastanakis. That's the one I know for Jennifer Anastanakis. have a, is Faye a shortened version of a name or a different name? Faye Pachas. No, it's wait. I'm thinking of Anastanakis. That's the one I know for Jennifer Anastanakis. Oh, right.

Sonakis. I was like, isn't it like Lemonakis or something? No, but lemon is a reference to her being Greek, isn't it? Like Liz Lemon. Oh, yeah, we were talking about this. Don't the Greeks use lemon? Sure, sure they do. Quite a, quite a, quite a.

And also her, I think her middle name, I think it's like, or maybe her name is like Elizabeth Christina Fay. Athena Fay something or something. Ah. Right. Fuck. Liz is in there.

Athena Elizabeth Fay. I'm looking it up. I feel, I'm getting a little half calf kick. I'm going to kick for sure. Elizabeth Stamatina. There you go. Right. You would think Tina comes from Christina, but it's Stamatina.

They should call her Stammy. Stammy. Stammy. Stammy, this is the writer for two weeks. So you're talking. Did you talk to the guy yet? No, not yet. I was, we made a date for me to call him this morning.

I called me to answer. But he just, this guy is parking on the wrong tree. He takes the meters now and he said it was because of the snowstorm. He's just like, I'll call you back. I'm talking to Chevy right now. That was the very joke I, I was like, when I was calling him,

I was like, the first thing I'm, I was like, I was like, the first thing I'm going to say to him is like, what did Chevy say? Or did Chevy run long or? The first thing he should say is, uh, why you talking to me? No, no, no. I'm going to be very insightful. The thing about the voice of a historic I missed your call. I was getting colonized.

All right. No way. To get us from colonization to Jeff drinking his workaday cup of Joe at Buster. Yes. It is the Civil War because you get like shifting from the intellectual vibe, like right before like industrialization. And then Civil War is like, you guys like troops, you got to stay warm and you got to wake up, drink a bunch of coffee.

And that's kind of a bit, oh, also the Boston Tea Party, people were like, drink coffee, don't drink tea. Oh, that's interesting. One thing I forget about you, you said a hot drink that warms you up. One thing I forgot about coffee is I'm like sweating. I am sweating, yeah. Really?

And on a cold morning, just because that's about like right now in an apartment where Jeff won't let us have the air on. My microphone is right next to the huge air conditioner. Come on, let me put it on. At least one YouTube doc that I watched was like, that's when you started to think a coffee is just like functional coming out of the Civil War.

And then they were like, so now second half of the 1800s, like age of industrialization is when it's like, you work in a factory, drink your wake up, have some Maxwell House or some Folgers or some, you know, and then, and you then do your job. And then then we're talking, you know, 20th century capitalist America. Yeah. It's like now we have Nestle,

Nescafe makes instant coffee. People are just like waking up, having their Folgers crystals or whatever, going into their office job. And now we're fully become, it's just like work. Cup of Joe gets you. That's so funny that coffee on the one hand their office job and now we're fully become, it's just like work, a cup of joke gets you. That's so funny that coffee on the one hand

is this thing that like helps you leverage your labor potential for your employer. And then on the other one it's just like, ooh, luxurious, time to yourself. It's a opposite ways of thinking about it. It's so weird, but it hits both. Yeah, and that like employers would be like, take your five minute coffee break every hour.

Like they didn't want you. And then meanwhile you got George Clooney in the other year. Yeah, come with me to espresso. Yeah. Well, you know who does exactly that? The first Starbucks in Seattle in the 70s, that dude. Howard Schultz.

Howard Schultz. He went to Italy, he saw everybody with the vibe you're talking. And he's like, why aren't Americans like, this is great, this espresso shit. He didn't drink also was another thing. Oh, he was just like, I want a third space that it doesn't revolve around alcohol.

Much like England. Opposite of England, basically. Didn't drink. Yes, he didn't drink. Or, but yeah, but so he would have been one of the guys at the coffee house, not the pub with Jeff. Smart guys. That first Starbucks, which we've been to. Or but yeah, but so he would have been one of the guys at the coffee house. Not the pub with Jeff smart guys That first Starbucks, I've been snowballs at him

That one didn't when they first opened it. It wasn't like a coffee house You sit in it was like selling fancy beans and then you make them at home Oh, then he said no, no, we got to do the thing here. But then it's funny Starbucks Then there were other play. I think that in nineties you got, but you got that gen X boom that is depicted in friends where it's like, I think intelligentsia in Chicago and a few other independent coffee houses were bringing back the, we're making big bowl lattes. How funny. How embarrassing to name it that. Like we wanted to be sort of, to attract the intelligentsia of, Oh,

but that's funny. They were trying for that. And then they kind of did. So like now coffee, I feel like we just we have both like, and I do both when we come up with products, because this will happen. Eventually, we're going to come up with sloppy boys products, we should do the opposite. We're gonna have a line of drinks. I'm working on we should play down. Not lofty. No, you're right. And we should call it like lower rung. Yeah. Swill.

Sloppy boys, swill pack. You know what mat shots? Bottom of barrel. At the bars, there's the mat shots at the end of the night off the mat. We should can mat shots. That's so funny. No, no, no, no, the drinks are the same.

Cause it's like whatever we're doing. At the factory, we're pouring it onto a mat. It just runs through some plastic before it goes in. Nobody, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no right. Is like average Joe, Cup of Joe. Yeah, that's what I was thinking when you were talking about the US stuff. It sounded like regular Joe. Do we know any Joes? Of course, Joe Saunders, coffee Saunders and Joe Saunders, Joe Jost. Yeah, I mean, come on. I guess one cup of Jost.

Well, do we make our second round? Yeah, I'm going to do some flavoring this time. Ooh. What should I do differently with my second little cup? I also have a little bit of the Starbucks, like, the Galina iced that you can buy. Oh. If anybody wants that iced.

What creamers do you have? Only vanilla. OK, I'm going to do black on this cup because I want to try what Mike had. OK, great. Do a half cup. All right, folks, we're take a little break. And when we come back with round two. I went iced. I went half cup of oat. Which was a planet oat French vanilla creamer.

French vanilla. I didn't see that. And for Tim black. I got to say without the French vanilla oat creamer, I'm getting nearly no taste out of this. It'll come to you. I had the same thing. Well, at first I was like, this doesn't even matter.

I make my coffee a lot stronger and then coffee a bite. This is to me is a weak cup of Joe. Well, can I make a small confession? It's a cup of water. With brown food coloring. No, no, no. I didn't change out the little basket with fresh beans.

I just added more grounds. You know what I'm saying? How much more? Like one scoop of, a big scoop of regular already. Because I was like, there's still a little life left in these old beans. I think there was very little life left in those old beans. Life of the writer in life. See, I'm getting so I'm usually tongue-tied anyway, but my brain is going like

people. Yeah, it's tough to keep the thoughts. I'm not like a professional coffee maker. We're not here to judge my coffee. Mr. Verristo. No, no, no, no. But here's the interesting thing. When I was looking at those molecules and atoms and receptors and the aspartame and all that. They're everywhere.

They're everywhere. Here's what I learned. This is why Mike is feeling it more than us. Me and Jeff, we've got these receptors that are getting clogged up by caffeine. And when our tired chemical can't get in there, it's like, hey, what the fuck? Our body, me and Jeff's blood has been, in addition to those receptors, grown new receptors. So it now takes more caffeine to get me and Jeff zipped up. Whereas Hanford, you don't drink coffee regularly anymore.

You've got less receptors in us. So one cup of coffee is going to hit you harder than it hits me and Jeff. But I probably had my receptors for my coffee drinking days have probably like withered. Fryed up. Good old crusty. As it goes down, old receptors. Dusty ass. Cobweb gold receptors. like an old Model T.

It's like you use your comes in here. No, covered in gum. Receptors covered in gum. What the hell? Well, that's what I had. That cup of coffee over Pam Anderson's house. Hey, guys, maybe this will lighten things up for you. Oh, oh, Biscoff. Jeff just sl for you. Oh, a bisque off Jeff just saw a bisque off an airplane bisque off

courtesy of United Airlines. Oh, I love that. Also, Jeff, your Stanley Cup looks kind of like a classic workman's construction. It's a Yeti. OK, I don't have the fucking trad wife Stanley Cup. OK, your Yeti looks like something that a guy would bring to a construction site in the 50s Well, yeah, it's cuz when I go to the lot I want the you know I want to put on my hard hat and look like one of the guys you know what I would love is to be like one of those mobsters that's doing a Not a no-show, but a no-work

Thing where you you go to the construction site, but you don't work, but you have to be there That wasn't the soprano. Yeah I think no show means you're getting paid You don't even have to be there but some guys have to go and they sit and they play poker all day, but have to be and is there is that for like protection or just I think it's making money off. I think it's certain I mean, yeah, I think it's I mean it's just extortion but a certain number of people have to be there just in case

Someone were to come by okay I see. Well, my biscoff was nice and soaked. Nice. Broke off. That's good. Oh, these are so good. I made an ice cream sandwich with one of these last night. The things are going on, the culinary things are going on over there when no one's looking is. I get adventurous in the kitchen. I was thinking about the Szechuan nuts that you made. Yeah, I finally finished those. I had one tablespoon every morning for a month. That sounds great. All right, final thoughts, coffee.

Tim, kick us off. Stone cold classic. I mean, it's yeah. If you're even a guy who can't drink it anymore. Do you like the flavor of coffee, Mike? If it was like coffee ice cream or something like that. No, I have to be in the right mood for something like that. But coffee itself, I do like the flavor of.

Yeah. You know what I mean? But I tell you what I had a hankering. I didn't satisfy it, but I had a hankering for butter pecan ice cream the other day. It went unsatisfied. It went unsatisfied. And I'm glad it did because I want to be- It'sering away. We're going to wheel you up to the retirement home.

You can have all the. No, please. That's what I didn't want to have it and be like, this is my new flavor. Was it maple walnut or butter pecan? Yeah, those are the two old people. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Back when ice cream, they're like, oh, we'll make this exciting with nuts. We'll put pralines in it. Keep those nuts out of there. Make it green and put chocolate chips in it. How are you? Thank you. This is an order again and again. It's a stone cold classic, all that stuff.

Yeah. I drink it every day. I drink probably three servings of coffee a day. Two in the morning, one in the afternoon. Two hots and a cold in the afternoon. Yeah, but these are all half calves. Not the afternoon one. Oh, full calf. I've been with, witnessing the slingshot nap over here. Oh yeah. Drinks a Celsius goes to bed.

Cause you go down, right? And then you shoot back up because you lay down for half an hour, which is about the amount of time it takes for the caffeine to get into those receptors. You love so damn much. It's like, it's like you, it's your naps while you diving in with a kickboard. You know, it's a kickboard. You know, it's like if you're doing swimming lessons, you hold on the board. But it floats. You can't go too deep.

Dive in it. So I dive down and then the buoyancy shoots me back up. I saw something the other day on Instagram. This woman was wearing this belt with like like underwater, I'm going to say day on Instagram. This woman was wearing this belt with like Like underwater, I'm gonna say Rockets But underwater thrusters and she was just like in this giant pool with her arms to her side like winging around this There's two good of shit like that now. Yeah, like, you know, like the hoverboard type stuff or like little little Gauntlets you put your arms. Yeah

Water jets and stuff. The guy's like, here we go. Oh yeah, yeah, wait, it's the local news. The news guy. Just like, and it starts right now. And it starts right now. It starts right now. Oh god, it starts right now.

Oh, that's a good news. I went on those, you know those things, I forget what they call them, but like I was in Catalina and you stand on the board and it like has the water jets that shoot out of it. Yeah. Those are really fun. You've done that? Yeah. It shoots you up in the air and you stand on the board and it like has the water jets that shoot out of it Yeah, those are really you didn't you've done that? Yeah, shoots you up in the air and then you can die like if once you get your balance and stuff It's really like dive into the water then I saw one where a guy was farting around. You're like a DJ

Stand and he'd like knocks over the DJ stand ruins the party. I see that getting too Confident on the water board But when you do one of those like that's you just do it the once and then you're done. Or what like what do you who do you pay and how much do you do? Well, you get for the day you go out. No, it was like an hour or two, like an hour probably. And you go out. We were on a boat. But the the engine comes from it's like plugged into a waiver.

So that's where like the power is coming from. OK. And it's like like the power is coming from. Okay. And it's like, I forget how it works. Maybe the water is being sent up, something like that. But you kind of, you're on a bit of a leash of this thing. So you can go up and down and swim and get high and then fall down and stuff. And you go until you can't take it anymore.

Ooh, I want to do that. You got to do it. Catalina. The future of water sports today. It's here. Jeff, what was your review of coffee? Oh, I said Stone Cold Classic order again. You got to do it. Catalina, the future of water sports today. It's here. Jeff, what was your review of coffee? Oh, I said Stone Cold Classic order again and every day, etc, etc. Hell, yeah. Five forks. So we all like we all like coffee.

And also, do you guys remember in I think it was in our espresso martini episode, we were talking coffee and then there was a quiz with a lot of questions. It was called the Java Lanch. Do you remember that? Oh, the Java Lanch. Yeah. Yeah. The Java. Okay. So I thought we've been saved from that. Oh, well, yes, but you've heard of that sort of heard of the Java Lanch. But have you heard of Java Lanch Jr. Oh, shit. Junior. It's like the Java Lanch, but with less questions. Well, wasn't the defining characteristic of the original Java Lynch, the amount of question it wasn't. This is we didn't we learn a word for this recently, where it's like when the form becomes something about the form becomes obsolete,

but then this the Yeah, yeah. And then the aesthetic lives on. What was that in reference? It was like, Oh, God, Bob Dylan, we talked about the Bob Dylan movie. We talked about like, panelling on hands and stuff. It's just like, oh, because it used to be a mark of quality. It sort of harkens back to the old ways of doing things. This is like that.

We need to talk to that person who got to you. It was like, I work in signage or something. Oh, the guy that taught us about McBling. Trends. Yeah, it was like he like is a trendologist. He's an aestheticist. I'm an aestheticist. I'mhetist. Aesthetist. I'm an aestheticist, okay? I'm the aestheticist-estetician. Okay, well, the job line here has five questions.

You guys ready? Ooh, yeah. Yes. Okay, let me just take one sip of coffee. Yeah, the coffee will power me through. Yeah, that actually helps. Ooh, woo! Okay.

I'm not gonna sleep for a month after this this coffee. Now you just, you don't buzz in, you just blurt because you're powered by caffeine receptors. Yeah. Yeah. We're already kind of buzzed. Okay. What comedian said you cannot pee into a Mr. Coffee. Yep. And get Tasters Choice. Yummy yummy. You did sound like Gallagher though for a minute there. Because he was impersonating Ross Perot. Okay. It's Dana Carvey's doing Ross Perot complaining about Waterworld. What does it have to do with Gallagher?

Didn't you see, didn't you see Dana, the post credit Dana Carvey special stuff from the nineties? I did. That's like, that's like as, it wouldn't even make a cut. As credits are rolling 90s. I guess like that's like as it was. It is a massive credit. So yeah, I do. OK, question two in the job.

I'll answer here. Who said this? God damn, Jimmy, this is some serious gourmet shit. Me and Vincent would have been satisfied with some freeze dry. I just wish Jules played by the hardest working man in showbiz. Samuel L. Jackson. Jefferson is on the board with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice, right? And he springs the series Gourmation on us.

What flavor is Don't Fucking Jimmy Me? You know, Pulp Fiction Tarantino. OK, Jeff's on the board. Plot friction. Was that the Mad Magazine? Plot friction. That's so cool of them. OK, in the early 1990s, a soap opera

esk series of commercials to Maxwell House depicted a couple falling in love over this line of instant coffee. Folgers. Oh, Nescafe. No, it's not Maxwell House. When was it? Taster's Choice. Taster's Choice. 221. My parents love that shit. They think that that works. They ask me, people are like, it's a will.

They won't. Like, have you ever seen those commercials? Oh, they were so good. People would talk about the couple in those commercials. Was that the one was just the hands talking like that? No, that's it's can't believe it's not butter or something like that. Oh, yeah. I know. I know you're thinking it's a classic.

It's like they talk to their hands are like, oh, you. Yeah. Way too much. I don't really remember the one the Taster's Choice. I watched them on YouTube and it's really funny because you could see it's like aspiration. It's like a yuppie couple and it's sort of like and they played it over years. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I think they're like they eventually got married or something. It's like a Luke and Laura. There's another commercial too where it's like this brother is making coffee for his sister home from college or something like that. The best part of waking up is Folger's in your cup. Yeah. It's like, are they dating? Yeah. It's like this weird like, okay, they're siblings. Was it around Christmas? Yeah.

It's like he's coming home from college or something and everyone's sleeping and it's daybreak and he makes a coffee But yeah, when the little sister comes down, they do have kind of a horny vibe for each other There's something in that commercial, you know the ones like a do-so-rano vibe The Campbell's commercial where the snowman walks in the house. Yep. He starts to melt for some reason boy He's a little he's a little red haired boy Campbell's chicken's chicken noodle soup or something. Yeah, it's one of the for some reason my head, I'm like, were those shot in the same place? I don't know why, but it just feels like the same home. I think they aired in the same, you know, act break.

It's fun. And so they do exist. Yeah. If you watch like Garfield's Christmas special or whatever on on YouTube, a lot of times the commercial break will have all these commercials. Yeah. And then some heavy hitter commercials. or the Hershey kiss one where they're the bells Yeah, yeah, which they had to do that in the old stop-motion actual days. That's not a computer ad, right? I guess not It's an ad for Hershey's. That's for sure Hershey Squirts. They have for computer Okay, next question in the job, Lanceens Junior. Wait, wait, wait. So this is the

third or fourth question? This is question four. It's Jeff two, Mike one. Oh shit, I gotta get my step up my game. Taster's Choice. Why that's made by this popular coffee brand. Clothers Maxwell. Nescafe.

Yes. Nescafe. Mike has tied it up. Ooh, Nescafe. Yes. Nescafe. Mike has tied it up. Ooh, Nescafe. Damn. And here we go, the final question, the tiebreaker two, two. Nescafe, why that is made by the world's largest food conglomerate.

Nestle. Tied! That was an exact tie, wow. That's an exact tie, and I don't have a tiebreaker. You guys tied. You can't blame the distance. Yeah, you can't blame the distance because we're almost feeling the time.

Right, unless I'm a little closer to Tim. Damn, that's crazy. So we're kicking off the year basically pretty much with a tie. That's, it's a year of peace and harmony. It's time, Jeff, for you and I not to have a year where we're just at each other's throats. I know, it's not a zero sum game.

Right. We can all we can work together. We don't need to have this constant Hatfield McCoy thing going on. This thing where it's like, it's not enough that I win. My enemies must fail. My enemy and coworker must fail. I think this really sets the tone for 2025. It's really good. Mm hmm. He's a harmony.

Twenty twenty five. It is shining sea. Wouldn't that be some He's going to be 20 to 20. This shining sea. Wouldn't that be some, maybe it's just too much coffee, but boy, I'd love to see that happen. And in closing, I have one final thing to say. I think I ranted about this to you guys in real life, but I don't think I said it on pause. The receptors again. No, it's about Kaluah. How fucking lucky is Kaluah, the brand, about this espresso martini boom? They didn't do that, it just happened. Yeah. Oh yeah.

The amount of Kaluwa sold this year is probably 100 times what it was five years ago. They're so fucking lucky. Oh, there were presents under the Kaluwa tree this year. Oh yeah. And I ain't talking socks, okay? Razor scooters, right? X-Boxes, you get it?

Yeah, I like it. I like to do this to you, Jeff, sometimes, is get into a character or a mode so heavy it makes you very uncomfortable. I think it's just that he gets it and he's moved on and you're still doing it. No, I like to be an asshole guy around Jeff and he's like, okay.

He likes to grind it a little bit. I like that. We had that clip of you started talking about the Will Smith slap and Jeff was like, all right, all right. And then you're like, why? I'm like, you want to talk about the most well-trended territory of all time. Why? Why?

It's also like saying that Jeff is in charge. All right, folks. That's our show. Follow us on social media at the Sloppy Boys, where we release these recipes ahead of time. And if you can't get enough boys by now, you know, it's patreon.com slash the sloppy boys. That's where for the low price of five dollars you get twice as many laughs You get to laugh as hard on Wednesday as you do on Friday

And you're supporting the group here that gets us out more to do more stuff for you. You understand? Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it's really good and all the blowout is a funny show. Mm-hmm Oh and another new thing that's kind of cool Let's say you're not ready to commit to the $5 a month or $10 a month or whatever. We are releasing episodes a la carte. Maybe you just want to go through and pick one up. Hey, that one looks pretty good.

Two bucks. Love it. I say we make it five bucks. Well, then what would be the incentive to? The incentive is to join the thing to get all of them for five bucks. Okay. It'll be two bucks, fuck.

Yeah, Mike, yep, five bucks it is. Yeah, yeah, five bucks. Wow. Wow. It was a good episode. Very good episode. And a good start to a good year. And I'll tell you this,

I clap ourselves on the back for not delving into like talking about Sabrina stuff with the me espresso. So I mean, I did say that's that me at one point. But that's that made me think of like we didn't we didn't say, oh yeah, this other thing about Sabrina Carpenter I heard about you. 2025. She had a moment. I mean, are we we're done with pop girl shit, right? Like what this next summer?

I'm getting into I'm getting this some heavy metal these right? Like what this next summer? We're done with women. I'm getting into, I'm getting into some heavy metal these days. What are the predictions? Cause it's going to go the other way next summer, right? It's going to be like system of a down summer or something like that. Probably. Or like Linn Biscuit summer.

I wouldn't be surprised if like new metal or what was it? Rap rock or whatever starts making his like younger bands starting to, it's about time for that to like come back in and one like a pop break So because I do think we've had like You know, there's like turnstile There's some of those riffy rocky bands that are inspired by that that are cool But we haven't had a big pop hit like it like actually has the DJ equipment on stage Think the Gen Z is gonna go go that far? Gen Alpha?

I think somebody should sample, I don't think it should be us, somebody should sample Toxicity and make a cool song with the best, literally the best drums ever ever. I listened to that the other day on a really good Bluetooth speaker, I kind of cranked it up. Me too. All the way. Did you see on Christmas I posted a mashup of Jingle Bell Rock and Toxicity? It was really funny. No I didn't see that. Did you see on Christmas I posted a mashup of Jingle Bell Rock and toxicity?

It was really funny. No, I didn't see any posts of that. See this is why you gotta follow not just the Sloppy Boys online but our individual accounts as well. At Jim Kalpakis. At Jefferson Dutton. At Mr. Mike Mayhem maker of the web. Mayhem maker?

Yes, right. Oh, mayhem maker of... Okay. Yeah, you are right. A man maker of, okay. Yeah, you are kind of a little bit of a jest-of. I'm the cool jest-of. Michael's twisted circus. I don't even know if I'm wrong, my own circus on the jest-of. You're the jest-of? Mike, you built this whole circus and you're just the jest-of?

I want to watch. There's no ringleader. Well, good luck grinding your beans, folks. Yep. See you next week. Yep. Give it up for your boys! Give it up for your boys!

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