The Sloppy Boys - 243. Gin and Tonic

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

The guys take a break from the bullshit to focus up on a classic! Juniper and Quinine collide-- in this cocktail for the ages! Do NOT miss this one!GIN AND TONIC RECIPE: 2oz/60ml GIN4oz/120ml TONIC WATERFill a highball glass with ice and add the gin. Top with tonic water and gently stir. Garnish with two lime wheels, or other seasonal garnishes.Recipe via Liquor.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Michael Hanford. Hi. And Tim Kalpakis. What is up? Ooh, my boy's looking good. Which one or both was that boys plural? Boys plural.

Yes, you look good. Jeff, you got a cool Hawaiian shirt that's a beer shirt that your mom gave you. Yeah, what's up with this shirt? I got to I got to I got to enter full screen here. Whoa, Tim spoiled it. My mom got it for me. That was a little pre podpod information I came across. Look at you go, Jeff.

Yeah, it's got all sorts of beers on it. This is sort of a blue Hawaiian with a bunch of gold beers throughout. It is a bunch of fake beers, right? I'm trying to look at the like pine beard. Yeah, it's funny. I was looking at it, it looks like, you know, you've seen these sort of like AI shirts,

but this is all, you know, clearly printed English. It's not real brands, but this is all, you know, clearly printed English. It's not real brands, but it's like, you know, it's good. Tim has a tour shirt like that, a stage shirt that I was looking at. I was looking at like all tour and then finally one day I said, Tim, what is this shirt? These are around for a second. I can't. These are real brands. Hold still. Hold them down. Jeff, not me. One time I was at a bar on Cape Cod, the Chatham Squire, like a fun packed bar,

and I was wearing this polo shirt that had a very loud pattern on it of crabs, like crabs in bottles of hot sauce and stuff. Is that to sort of like foreshadow what's going on in your underpants? Just a little heads up before anyone makes their way down to the pubis. But I was hanging out there.

Oh, this is the night that I told you guys I saw like some 16 year olds covering Mr. Brightside and they crushed and it was like, all right, right. It was a cover band that when everyone doing that, it was like the hottest audience I had ever seen. Like they were going nuts and I was so cool. But on that night, a teenage kid, New Englander, taps me on the shoulder and I turn around, my crab shirt, I turn around and he's like,

hey brother, I've been staring at your shirt for an hour. I was like, okay. Not really a compliment in there, but for an hour. Am I about to get my ass kicked? Yeah, the 16 year old beats the shit out of me. Just that you've had eyes on your shirt, sir. That's all you need to know for an hour. New Englanders, they don't like to be distracted

for that long a period of time. That's offensive. Oh, right, right, right. You're a New Englander. You'd know for an hour. Hey, I'll tell you, you know what's, what was, summer has sprung, right? I think so.

Oh yeah, we're in it, man. Is summer's heating up, the summer's sizzle? Ooh. Ooh, I think I stepped out on the sidewalk. Ah! Ooh. You know what I just did was, it was a very summery thing and I said, this makes me feel like

I'm already having a real summer to quote Howard Kramer, having a summer. I went to see Friendship for a second time. Oh, that's a summer movie. I don't even like movies. So me seeing a movie twice is pretty rare, although I did see Attack of the Clones twice with my friends in the theater.

That was years ago. Yeah, I saw Empire Special Edition, I want to say three times. I saw last time I did that was once upon a time in the. That was years ago. Yeah, I saw Empire special edition. I want to say three times. I saw last time I did that was once upon a time in Hollywood. I think I saw. Oh yeah. Well, we saw it twice because we saw it on the road waiting for our airplane at one point.

Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. I maybe saw that like four times. Yeah, that's a perfect one. But then it's very like, like remember, like when Independence Day came out and her kids and it like owned that summer. You're like, remember like when Independence Day came out when we were kids and it like owned that summer

and you're like, I'm going back. Friendship obviously different thing, like a little indie film, but that's even more fun that it's like, when I went again going back, the theater was still packed, like word is growing, but it was so fun to see a comedy for a second time and even just see a movie, like I don't watch movies twice, so being in the theater like,

I love this movie, this movie makes me laugh, but also I can get up and go get some popcorn or go to the bathroom, because I've already seen the movie. The very summery experience I'm missing out on as a film hater. Right? Oh yeah.

You know what I, yeah, it's a, as a film hater, it's okay that you're missing out. I guess you hate film, but I feel for you. It sounds like what I really like is going to the bathroom and buying popcorn. Yeah, you could do that at home.

You're real Cynophobe. What if you guys come over to my place and I'm like, bathrooms there, I'm popping up the popcorn, we're good to go. There's no movie. Any movements, excuse me me Tim, any moves? Bowel or otherwise? Huh?

Bowel or otherwise. No, no, no, no, movements on the Kelpies Hideaway. Yeah, I've been doing like nothing super bar specific other than I bought some new cocktail straws that are red. Good. Solid red. That's good. I had the white ones with the stripe already.

So now I've also got the solid red ones. What's the gauge like on those? So thin, you could like fishing line. Ooh, ooh. Just a thin sip, a real narrow sip. It goes right between your teeth. Mm-hmm. You can kind of use that as a water pick, right between your teeth. Mm-hmm. You can kind of use that as a water pick, right?

That's the idea, yeah. I have a water pick and I don't use it. Do you guys? No, but I want to get an electric toothbrush. Jeff, I think you have one, right? And you swear by it. Oh, I do. Do you swear by it?

I swear, I swear, but no. We need to get somebody to sponsor this show who deals in electric toothbrushes and send us that's good some product Um, that's smart. Here's the ladies going on. I haven't done any bar specific what stuff but I've been doing a little bit of Home decor. I think I talked about I was getting some good feng shui going but then On Mike's recommendation. I got these the new curtains for the front, you know Mike said Tim how they look ditch the curtains Well, it's been its own own journey. I got I was I was like Everything I when I have to pick a color

I'm known to pick navy blue and then for a little while when I was trying to not pick navy blue I would pick maroon and you guys knew you as maroon guy So that every whenever you saw me wearing a maroon t-shirt, it was because I was trying to not wear my navy blue t-shirt that day back when we first met. I didn't realize what struggle you were going through. Lately, I've been trying to, when I try to diversify, the only other color I can think of is dark green.

You like jewel tones, bold jewel tones. Check out the color of this. That's a nice forest green on your. What is that Stanley Cup? It's not Stanley. No, it's not the Stanley Hydro Flask. It's not Lord Stanley's Cup. It's one I got it off of.

It's a it's a kind of Kyo Kyo Kyo Kyo from the good people at Amazon. I don't know. Kind of Kyo. It was like it was like a $ dollar one on Amazon instead of the hundred dollar Amazon basics. No, it's not Amazon Basic. It is just something from Amazon.

But when I looked up the Yeti thing that I want, that was forty dollars and I wanted to get a cheaper one. It's funny how much stuff on Amazon is like just a made up name. Like I guess it's just Chinese drop ship companies. Like Ghost Kitchen. It's always like, oh, I got this one. I got this charger. It's really good.

It's called a Jun Tu. Yeah, right. Right, and that's coming out of the same factory as the, like the one. As the Wexley. The one that's like made simple. Yeah. It's like, doesn't matter.

Anyway, I get some dark green curtains for my front thing and they're black. It's curtains for you. It's curtains for me. They're blackout curtains, guys. Isn't that nice in the summer? I've got a- You bump it in everything. Oh, that's gonna keep you cooler too.

Literally every time in the hot summer afternoon when I step into my house, I say to myself, I say, welcome to the ice cave. And that's the vibe I've got going in a dark icy inside. And when you say ice, you mean the soft cubes. Yes, as chosen by the fanciest of Japanese martini makers. Right, right. You should say something like, welcome to the Emerald Icebox Icebox. I'm going to start saying that.

Hey, how about the Emerald Room over there? It might be nice for Calphe. We're going to the Emerald Icebox. Inside there is Calphe's hideaway. We're going to the Tiger Room. I'm so confused. What's the bathroom called at this place? That should have its own name too.

The shit closet. All right. No, but here's what happened. So I got these green curtains. Jeff, did you see them? Have you been over since I got those? I don't think so. Anyway, I was sitting there being like,

yeah, I got these green curtains. I'm a wild man. I have green curtains. And then I was looking at them and I was like, oh my kid, and I can't pull off these green curtains. So I ordered navy blue curtains and I put them up instead. And they're so much better and I'm so much more comfortable. I moved the green ones to the bedroom though.

So now I've got blackout bedrooms. Honestly, blackout in the bedroom is a king move. I used to just wake up with the sun and think I was smart. No, it's dumb. And if you're me, I'm a freewheeling guy, just sort of not working a day job right now, so that dark curtains give me an extra hour of sleep every morning. Now you can really waste away. Which is, I love it, waking up, I look at my phone

to see is it 8.45, no it's 9.45 to me. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Is it 8.45, no it's 9.45. But I felt for the mere couple of days where I had green curtains in my living room, I felt like I was a fucking, the most fraud, the most fraud boy,

wild man on earth. And now I feel settled. And the navy blue looks fantastic. Subtle nautical vibes growing back. Were they like thick? Were they like velvety? That's what I'm picturing. No, because I didn't want to be,

stuff like that looked a little too ostentatious for me. Yeah, that makes sense. I want to draw the eye to some decorations, but I didn't want the curtains to be the star of the show. What do you know about drawing the eye? I know how to fool the eye. Ah ha ha ha.

Trump du L'air. Trump du L'air, yes. Something like that. Trump to lose. That's when there's like a, you're at like an Italian, like a funny Italian restaurant, like Michelli, Missy and there's like a balcony painted onto the wall. And you're like, is that about, you know, it's painted onto the wall. I love that. Say Trump to lose. No, that's a fool. The eye Trump delude.

Do you guys say Miss Ellie's or Michelle's? Michelle's Michelle's. I say we're talking about the place in L.A. with the singing waiters. Yeah, wait, Stephia. I'd say Michelle's. OK, I love when you see a roof inside. No, I'd say Miss Ellie's.

That's like a Tiki move. A lot is like you go inside the building and then all of a sudden you see the awnings of like you know like thatch roofs yeah I like that a lot inside that's cool I always like that it reminds me kind of of the oh wait a minute I haven't told you guys about oh I've been meaning to tell you about did I tell you about this place in Houston that I went to I think I maybe sent you pictures of it. You sent us pictures of like a gigantic beer hall vibe, but you didn't explain.

Let me tell you about this place. It was down in Houston. I was doing a standup show in Houston. And after the show, near my hotel was this place called The Rustic. And I walked by this place in the afternoon, just when I was walking around the neighborhood, and it was this giant building, kind of open air,

like almost like, what's the pavilion, which like the doors could be closed on the side, but had open air, like almost like, what's the pavilion, which like the doors could be closed on the side, but had open air to it. And there were bands playing there from the time I walked by in the afternoon, like all day long. And after my show, I went in there and it was this giant room.

It reminded me of like an adult Chuck E. Cheese, where there was a live band on the stage and just this giant area of rows of picnic tables, like where people were getting their food, it was like barbecue food and stuff. And then there was a huge bar in the back and there was a bunch of seats all around. And it was just like people milling around

watching this band play. Right when I got there, it started to like thin out, but for a second there, it was like jam packed on a Saturday night. And I was talking to, I'm watching at some point and I'm looking around it started to thin out, but for a second there, it was jam-packed on a Saturday night. And I was talking to, I'm watching at some point, and I'm looking around, and I don't know, we don't know country music very well, especially pop country.

And there's just like, current pop country, people are like, the kids are all dancing, it was like baseball teams and stuff in there, it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Dance in the country? Dance in the country, and the kids knew the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Dance in the country, dance in a country and like the kids knew and knowing like the the dance moves and stuff like everyone did. It was, it was, I felt it was so like, I was like, wow, this is what's happening in the country music world.

Yeah. There's an interesting, this came up briefly once in the pod, but like with country music at these, uh, not necessarily like line dancing places, but I don't know what the other kind of country dancing is. These songs, they all have like their official dances that people know. Like you could go to any club and then when like Aky Breaky, that's condescending for me to say, Aky Breaky Heart.

So let's say some legitimate good country song that people respect comes on. Yeah, Cotton Eye Joe. I mean, I do kind of think it started with that type of shit. Yeah, I mean, like those kind of think it started with that type of shit. Yeah. I mean, like those ones have like definite dances, but you're saying like new pop songs that he haven't been around as long.

I'll have so I've dances too. But also those are still canonized and they're still in the playlist. I think that the, but just like if you're a country friend, you like know like dozens of dances and that would be fun for us. When I hear a driver's license come on, if I started doing this kind of sad steering dance and you guys were kind of doing it to everybody, hit your bling. Good to do to do. I, my song of the summer is how bad do you want to be me by Lady Gaga? I should come up with a dance for that and then get it to catch on.

Oh, do we have is that that's like the only I don't think I've heard any pop songs yet this summer. Like nothing, nothing. You got to listen to that one just because it's it's such a Taylor song that Lady Gaga happened to put out. Yeah. And she beat her at her own game and it's great. We should have songs like when a new sloppy boy song comes out. We need to see the whole crowd doing the same dance for three minutes.

Yeah. You know what? People. One thing I think people should do is when we sing Lifeguard Life, I think when I say wave your hands or make that noise or make some noise, you got to wave your hands or make some noise. Right. Those are not just lyrics. Those are instructions. Those are instructions to get you more excited about this. They're put there for a reason, folks. Let's come up with some call and response type Rocky Horror type stuff for.

Let's choose one song like that one and let's go overboard. And there's just too many moves and it's the whole thing. Yeah. On on Fortnite, I bought the Charlie XCX Apple dance. That's the only dance I've bought. Hmm. I don't think I know how that goes, but I'm glad I'm hoping to see it. It's this one.

Yeah, I see. Yeah, this one. Oh, boy. For those of you listening, Jeff just looked so cool. Oh, no, don't worry, folks. We're going to clip that and put it online, Jeff. You're busted busted

I went to a Charlie XCX show before the brat tour when it was still the sweat tour Yeah, but brat was out right? Yes. Well, that was what was funny. They had they had booked this tour He's alternating songs with Troye Sivan. And then like now they've like updated the playlist, but it wasn't full brat like video displays yet. Right. It was just like, we have a green background.

That's the best we can do. When she played Apple, people are doing the Apple. That's like a TikTok dance. It's different than this country thing. Like everyone knows like, oh, there's a TikTok dance, but it's not like, OK, everyone in the audience, let's do this. Apple dance. Let's do the locomotion. I got it. I mean, country's not immune to Tiktok.

I got to imagine that some of those dancers are coming from Tiktokers and they're being, they're being adopted by the artist. That's how Charlie's happened. You're probably right. So we should pick a country song. Let's pick a random one from like three years ago that doesn't have a dance yet. We invent the dance. Chico's tour face.

Okay, Chico's tour face. Perfect. Yeah, it's like that's like a slow like while everyone's doing like a box formation wall. It's a viral sensation, but the dance like fully sucks and is basic. All right. You want to get into some booze news? sensation but the dance like fully sucks and is basic. All right you want to get into some booze news? You sure?

I would love to be booze news hit it. I hope I'm the bomb I hope I'm the bomb I hope I'm the bomb. I really hope that I got it going on. I really hope that I got it going on. I really hope that I got it going on. I really hope that I got it going on. He hopes he's the bomb. He hopes he's the bomb. He hopes he's the bomb.

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I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I'm the bomb. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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Nice job, Colin. So I had played on our better show, The Blowout, which is a, you can, you can subscribe to that at the links in our bios and stuff like that. I, we played demos and memos of some of our songs, like early versions. And I had a voice note that was like, I hope I'm the bomb.

I hope I'm the bomb. I hope I really hope I gotta go. I really hope I gotta go. And then we said that that possibly evolved into the hit Sloppy Boy's song, I'm on Hell of a Dude. It's similar, it's subject matter. And then what Colin from Columbus has done

is he's made them become one. Colin, put them back. Colin, Colin kind of like reconstructed deconstructed idea. I love that. That's cool, Colin. He's cool. That's cool, Colin. And I'll tell you what I recognize. Cool, cool Colin. Colin Hanks. Him. Oh, thanks, Colin. The voice and then the acoustic guitar and then those little garage band drums that you play with your fingers on your Macbook. Sounds probably exactly like the demo of that song that I would have made and sent to you guys originally. If I find that, we should play that at the end of the episode at the Sea of Colin Nailed

It. Oh, so you're saying take that song that we would normally put on like the Better Show memos and demos episode and then give it here to the free listeners. Yeah, to give the free listener a taste of what they're missing, that they could live a whole different lifestyle where they hear us really be unguarded

and vulnerable on the Sloppy Boys blowout. You know, the Sloppy Boys blowout, that sounds exciting, but I wonder if we could even like plus up, make it even more a dangerous sounding and attractive like, oh, I love the blow up. You like too hot for TV. Remember those like tapes?

I'd be like Jerry Springer too hot for TV or like we should call it like maybe that like the sloppy boys unleashed. Yeah. Oh yeah. We should make a commercial for it that is similar to those too hot for TV commercials. That's like, this is the stuff they couldn't show you on the hard. Yeah. This is the stuff they didn't have time for. They couldn't talk about the Muppet movie on the beach.

Yeah. Yeah. No folks, that's not what the, the blood is not what we don't have time for here. It's what we're more interested in. Oh, that's where our hearts lay. Yes. Yes, yes, that's not what the blood is not what we don't have time for here. It's what we're more interested in Oh, that's where our hearts lay. Yes Yes, yes. Yes. I just want to clear clarify that and this well, hey, so what's the boat? Oh, yeah Who's news you're saying? Okay this yeah

Quick update. I'm sure when you guys are you know between episodes of podcasts you have time off I'm 24 7 working on tracking the drink of the summer. Right. Yeah. I'm going to bring into you right now, two drinks that are drink trends that are happening. Neither of which do I believe they are on track to be drink of the summer,

but they've been covered in the media. And I think that we maybe can see a trend growing here. Okay. Okay. Because have you guys noticed that the jalapeno Sauvignon Blanc, AKA spicy Sauvib is not quieting down. This is picking up. Have you guys seen it? Yeah, no, I know.

It's all over the place. It's all over the place. Yeah. And now, it's inescapable. No, but we put it to the test on this show and we all kind of said like, yeah, there is something here because it's good, it's simple, it's entry level and it's also only two ingredients.

I think the two ingredient thing is big and I think the white wine thing is big because I would say that's the most, since we've been doing this podcast, this is like the most I've kind of almost been convinced that one drink is on track to Pretty definitive. Oh We've been doing the pot for a while though. We were we were here for apparel spritz summer, right or no

We came in when it was more like the New York Times says dirty Shirley's gonna do it or like, you know Like hey, you go spritz The lone range a lot of, but I don't know. We tend to roll our eyes at those, but I just, I don't know. I really, I feel like a lot of people are doing this jalapenos in the Sauvignon Blanc thing. Anyway, listen to these two other drinks. This one is a TikTok trend. The Hillstone Crisp Martini, which is a gin martini with a little bit of St. Germain and a little bit of Sauvignon Blanc in it.

Ooh. That doesn't sound, that sounds good to me, but that doesn't sound like it's gonna get people like. It's complicated. Exciting. They're excited. And also stop pushing St. Germain. It's not happening St. Germain.

I know, I like St. Germain. Yes it is. It would have happened with not happening St. Germain. I know I like St. Germain. Yes it is. It would have happened with the Hugo spritz. Yeah. Hugo Boss. Okay, but what's interesting is this Hillstone thing is, we talked about this a lot with reef rusting martinis and stuff, but this is the chain that invented like artichoke dip and-

Oh yeah. Hello. Hillstone is good. And that's like a weird, that's a weird chain where the restaurants have different names even. Right. They invented artichoke dip.

They invented the artichoke dip we know and love, like the spinach artichoke dip, the dip of tortilla chip into. Yeah, that's my favorite. Of the dips. They. And they invented refrosting the martini glass, but they also, I get the sense with this Hillstone

crisp martini that was on their menu and I feel like they're reaching out to TikTokers to try to make it become a thing. And then because the world is what it is today, it's working and you see like, you know, like I saw some TikTok with a million views where the girl started by saying like, okay, I got an R and D for the Hillstone crisp martini, so let's go, like R and D research and development. I take that as the Hillstone, like not that it's like an ad,

but like the brand did, the brand is putting the word out there. Huh. I gotta get to a Hillstone I've never been to or seen. Have you guys been to one of these? Hillstone sounds like the best restaurant in Bedrock. Jefferson, now you know that that's the Flintstones hometown. Okay, there's a Hillstone restaurant in Manhattan.

I'll go to that one. Get some of this dip. Let's all go together and do a blowout episode out of it. Ooh. Oh yeah, I'd love that. And now Jeff, what were you saying that Hillstone, they're called different things sometimes? Yeah, there's one in Beverly Hills. That's where I want to eat.

I my ex manager's office called honor bar, which we've all, we've all been to my, my current manager, your current manager. Yeah. Honor bar. People love that. He sort of dumped the zero and got with the hero on that one. But yeah, like the one I go to a lot in Pasadena is called Houston's. Some are just called Hillsone.

I dumped him by the way. I dumped him. Tim take it away. And I never will because I love him. In Santa Monica, I think there's one called Gulfstream. In Culver City, there's one called Laurel Grill. But they have the- There's one that has a functioning gas station.

Where was that? Did you see that? Oh, right. On the road? Wait, yeah, we went there. It's like in wine country. Yeah. That was in like Napa or something.

Yeah, and I was like, I went in and I was just like, is this Hillstone, like Hillstone restaurants? And they're like, yep. And I was like, I went in and I was just like, is this Hillstone, like Hillstone restaurants? And they're like, yep. And I was like, you guys sell gas? Yep. Yep. What? When you look at the menu, you're like, oh, this is like,

you know, there's a lot of like steaks and chops and ribs, but then also like there's a sushi menu and a little tiny pizza, wood-fired pizza menu and stuff. It's kind of got, it looks like it's got a lot of stuff. What they do best is like very comfortable dining room. Like, like the, the Houston's and Pasadena is a, uh, like a craftsman house with like this warm, soft lighting and you're in big leathery booths. It's so nice.

Ooh. Yeah. This, this one here in New York looks good too. It's over in, uh, where are we here? It's on the East side. Oh yeah. The one I was looking at is in Yountville, California. Yeah, that's up there.

Yountville. Honor Market. It's like a little market. Oh, Honor again, so that's part of their thing. Yeah, Honor Bar. And a cute little gas station. Interesting. Huh, okay.

Well, I love it. I absolutely love this. So that's trend number one, the Hillstone what? The Hillstone Crisp Martini. Ooh. And then the other one, this is not as big, but like, you know, when a publication just has to pick one and they go for it, Better Homes and Gardens Magazine has said

that the spa spritz is the drink of the summer, so there's been a little blip of influencers making that as well. This is a spritz that's made with Lillet Blanc. Okay. Lillet Blanc. We've come across that in the past. Yeah, what has that been used for with us?

I know I have a bottle of it. We use Lillet in a Vesper Martini. Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Is that what I'm thinking? I'm going to sloppydrinks.com. Ooh. Oh yeah, go to sloppydrinks.com. I'm sure we had Lillet in something else.

But. Corpse Reviver. I was on sloppydrinks the other day for, damn, I forget what it was. That's a good site though. I use it, I use it a lot. It's handy. Yeah. Corpse Reviver number two. Wow. The ultimate hangover drink. Yeah. What else is in there? I thought that that was like ginger. Isn't that a ginger beer? Wait, what's in that? This is from forever ago.

It's gin, Cointreau, Lillet Blanc. I want to say Lillet even though it took years you know, years of French. Lemon juice, schwasse de lemon and absinthe, one dash. It's one of those drinks where I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that has a cool history, but I don't remember what it was like. It was like in Egypt and like some banished bartender from the UK was like helping Egyptian troops with their hangovers as a whole. Yes, that's great. And we were were there the three of us were there too

Corpse survivor that's not tiki though. It sounds like tiki, but no it's it's just not it's just not at all that It's just not um Anyway, the spa spritz it's Looks pretty good I guess as a reference to spa water because because people are loading it up with cucumbers, cucumber and stuff like that. But I don't, this is one of those things where better homes and gardens

just had to write an article. So they did. So I don't really believe that that has, there's some people are making it now. But what I wanted to bring up to you guys was between the Savvy B, the spicy Savvy B, which is happening, the Hillstone Crisp Martini, which is, you know, is having a moment, the Spasspritz.

I'm seeing between the white wine and the vegetal qualities, I'm seeing vegetation, I've seen green, yellows, yellows and crows. Remember last year, or maybe two years ago. A return to nature perhaps. Remember last year, two years ago, we had a drink. It was like the garden drink coming out of England. Garden party.

Garden party with the edible flowers? Mm, I don't know. It seemed like there was a lot of like vegetabley stuff. Like it was possibly, it was like this. Hold on a second. If we haven't done the goddamn drink, would you shut up for two seconds? I'm trying to, I thought you're trying to place a drink.

I'm trying to place you off this podcast. And so Go on. Jefferson Dunn has been placed off of the podcast. I know it was a it was like this type of thing. We're this is same exact type thing Tim was reporting on now. Two years ago was like, oh, in England, they're doing a lot of vegetables and drinks and it didn't

catch on. Catch up. Speaking of vegetables. Isn't there like a maybe the Wimbledon drink had a bunch of shit in it? Isn't Wimbledon a Pimp's Cup? Not the melon ball. Honey deuce. Honey deuce.

But there was another one. Yeah, I guess Pimp's Cup. It's a veggie one. The veges. But you could see here, Lillet is a white wine liqueur type of a thing, and then it's being mixed with champagne here. If there's Sauvignon Blanc in the Hillstone, Chris Martini and the Sauvibé, Spicy Sauvibé.

So I think there's something happening with the white wines. A lot of people who are putting their brains toward what the drink of the summer is going to be are coming up with white whiny type of things. So I don't know whether that's the just that we're overdue or they're just saying like summertime white wine. You know, I don't know. I think like maybe the jalapeno, the spicy savvy B is the clear winner. And then these other ones are just chasing it and being like, Oh, actually, this one could be this instead.

Spicy Savi B is a great name. I think that's a very fun one. I have not yet come across people going back from or like taking this jalapeno into the Rose thing yet, which is how it started, right? Way back in like 22. Yeah. Yeah. You should do that. Cause you're a Rosé all day guy.

No, I know, but I haven't seen that in bars yet. That it's like, hey, you like this white Savi B or the what's called spicy Savi B, but here's the Rosé. Rosé all day. Haven't seen that yet. I mean, I haven't seen any of it at bars yet. I still am seeing like, let's,

I wonder if during the course of the summer, we'll see some of these spicy margaritas turn into jalapeno savvy beat at the bar. You know, that's, that's how you know. That's when you know. But what I don't look forward to is bars coming up with their own name for it, where the Spaghetti got a hundred different names when bars started like, and everyone gave it a funny name, and it's like, well, we're starting with a funny name, you know? Right.

Well, we don't know that's reference. Well, yeah, you don't, because you're not hip. Because you're not hip. Anyway, if any slop heads out there hear of any other white wine cocktails or vegetal crispies out there, let us know, because that's what's trending. Here we are at the very beginning of summer, the unofficial beginning, which is right after

Memorial Day. Oh, are we going to do an episode of Blowout where we say what our summer wishes are? Most fervent. That's kind of fun. Yeah, that was a good one. That was kind of a good one. Best summer plans. Best summer plans.

Maybe we'll do a whole block. I'm trying to think of I got some summer plans. You had boat hopes last year. I had boat hopes the previous year. I got boat hopes again this year, but it's not my full summer plan. Best beach accessory. Oh, the crab spitball and spitballing. You bring a crab to the beach.

No, no, no. But I'd wear one. I'm staring at the thing for an hour. All right, folks. That's it for booze news. Oh, come in and know me better man. Oh, oh, oh, oh. It is me. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, We haven't done the screwdriver. There's some very basic blank and blank mixed drinks we haven't done. We haven't done this drink at all. Oh, I didn't realize that. Never.

One of my faves today. This is? Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, the drink of the day is the gin and tonic, AKA the G and T. You've had, you've heard, you've had, you've heard. It's have heard, it's one of my faves. We all heard.

I'm excited to have another one. Tim, I want you to do your best invitation of the Micro Machine Man on this history, because I want to drink this one. I was actually thinking that I made it that, I'd skip the history, let's talk about the history when we have drink in hand in segment two.

I love that. I love that. So let's say for this gin and tonic, we are going to use the liquor.com recipe, which is brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Two ounces of gin, four ounces tonic water, garnish with two lime wheels, and then they say, fill a highball glass with ice, then add gin, top with tonic water, and gently stir.

Garnish with lime wheels or seasonal garnishes. Now, the ratio, this is hotly debated. This isn't like a normal highball where you want to put too much of the soda and not be able to taste the gin. I've heard three to one is a classic ratio, but I like that Liquor.com is doing a two to one. I tend to prefer lemon instead of lime, but I've read that lime is the classic.

Isn't that odd? Okay. I feel like I've seen the lime, sorry, lemon more, but I only have limes, so I welcome it. I feel like there's just enough drinks garnished with the lime and they tend to be tropical drinks that when I'm having this British-y drink that I would prefer a lemon, but I'll do lime if they tell me to do lime. You know how I like to do limes in this, in a G&T,

is when they cut them up into those little triangles, you know, but not the little chunky little triangles, little pyramids. On the toothpick, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are very squeezable. Something to work hands. That's what I'm talking about.

Squeeze, sort and stout. See what it's about. Okay, now we're gonna talk all about this drink, but let's go make it first. I myself, I've got a few gin options. I'm going to start with Beefeater. Down the middle, junipery gin. Tim, I've never had Beefeater

and I got it specifically for this. You did? Oh, that's what I have. Oh, this is great. We're making the exact same. Oh, this is going to be good. And I have a, I got some weirdy shit too. Yeah. And now for the, for the tonic water, we're doing,

we're doing our, we're doing Badger Bev's. Oh man. I'm looking forward to it. The finest product known to man. Any really any Badger Bev product is the finest product known to man. They're all tied. Badger Bev's makes, they make such a catalog of fine, fine mixers. They're very good.

And tonic water is not something I stock. So to have you're right to have primo tonic water with with some of the finest quinine show up in my door. Fine, fine, fine. I got what a life I live. All right, folks, we're going to go make these drinks. And when we come back, the history. in the history and i i will come back to i'm gonna be at my standing desk i'm gonna put the

best who by folks I'm a yuppie, please don't fuck me. Unless you wanna talk about money. Cause all those yuppies, yeah we like money. We spend it in the sunny or sunny. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Andy? I put a big lime wheel on this one, but I got some pyramids in there. And you made it in a coffee mug, huh? Well, it's, yeah, it's one of these, it's one of these kind of keeps your drink cold

or hot type cups. Oh, it's insulated. Double walled. I got it from the Elsheimer's Association for raising a bunch of money for them. By running a marathon? I ran a marathon, I think I forget the exact number, but it was over like 10,000, it was like maybe $15,000.

Jesus Mike. Michael. Yeah, I think so. You're doing it single-handedly. I gotta look that up again, that was a big number. Folks, give it to the Alzheimer's Association if you can. I can't believe you run marathons. Jeff, either can I.

I don't think I would anymore though. I think I'm done with a full. Yes, it's a lot of too much, way too much training. And I will only fuck my knees up more. Yeah. I feel like doing it once is this like achievement of a lifetime. So then doing like your second and third is sort of like,

well, now it's the next goal. I do them a lot. I've done I've done two total full ones or two, two full ones. And then a bunch of halves. I think I can do halves easier. Easier. I'm doing well. You know what? My two halves. That's a hole. Now that makes a hole. But let's get back to the drink. First sips. Yes. Oh, I'm excited.

That is a classic looking drinking out there, Jeff. Thanks, man. This is to the letter of the law. Tim sips. Yes. Oh, I'm excited. That is a classic looking drink. You got there, Jeff. Thanks, man. This is to the letter of the law. Tim to you guys. Identically. Oh, with our highball glasses. Well, well, the absolute best reach for the Badger. Yeah, Badger did it up. This is this. This is a summary drink to me, man. This is a summery drink to me, man. This is like a vacation drink. Vacation drink, where's this vacation? This would have been growing up,

either going to the Adirondacks, my family would always do an Adirondack trip, Adirondacks trip, and then a St. Lawrence River, Thousand Islands trip. And it was always like cocktail time before dinner was always like gin and tonics and cheese and crackers. Oh, that's fun. Where did you, do you remember wearing the Adirondacks?

Cause that's Tim town. Loon Lake. Loon Lake, beautiful. Yep, yep. Loon Lake near Scroon Lake. That's funny because Scroon Lake, my parents go to a lot and I think we're in the Moon Lake. Yeah.

Scroon. Yeah. Is there an Adirondack sparkling water or sparkling soda or something? I feel like when I was a 90s kid, I love that stuff. I found it on a vacation one time. It was like, I want more of that Adirondack. Ooh, Jeff. Interesting you brought up the 90s kid thing

because next week on the blowout, we're talking about the best 90s thing. The best 90s thing. Best 90s thing. Mm-hmm. We got a lot of 90s kids in the listenership. Mm-hmm, and a lot of 90s things. And we're gonna decide which is the best is.

But right now we're talking about this drink. Folks, if you wanna hear a better show, our show, the show we care about where we're actually talking about things we find more interesting than blanking out, blacking out on booze. Check out the blowout. Trivial matters. It's like we drink the booze here

and then we go black out on the blowout, but yes. Yeah, yes. The two are faithfully entwined. Damn, damn, damn. Oh. Okay, so when one thinks gin and tonic, Mike thinks family vacation in the Adirondacks, cheese crackers, coming out daytime drink.

And I think more of, it's specifically like, before the grills are going on, people are just about to grill. It's like, oh, the grill's heating up. Might as well have a gin and tonic and some cheese and crackers for a cocktail hour. And then it's kind of the sun is not going down yet, but it's that time of day where you've been swimming all day,

you're putting, you've showered, you've got, ooh, I've got the sunburn I'm dealing with. And now it's time for one of these. Time for the G and T's. The G, the D. Jeff, what do you think? Gin tonic, what's conjured in the Dutton gland? You know, maybe this is recency bias.

But it reminds me of the Glendale Americana. Really? Oh, um, umbra? Ombre. Ombre. There's a gin and tonic bar out on the lawn Oh, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, or the movie or whatever. I was with him when I went before Sonic 2. And I remember thinking like, I don't love like a gin and tonic, but then I got into the spirit because exactly. It's not even you open the menu.

All these gins, all these tonics, all these fix ins. It's like pick four fix ins. So you know, you get like, oh, I guess I'll do lemon, basil, strawberry, and some other thing. It's crazy. Maybe it's only two, but still. That's cool. So I think that's like a Spain thing,

and it's like fairly recent in Barcelona. People are having these gin and tonics, they're loaded up with shit, like garnishes on the table, and everyone's having gin and tonics, making making their own loading them up with all the shit. That's fun. And it comes in a big, big like a giant icy goblet. Hmm.

I also liked it. We all like martinis. And I this is working great with the bee feeder by the way, but that's like a straightforward juniper region. And then we've talked about how top shelf gins these days tend to be really botanical and have all these different kind of flowery flavors that I don't love in a dry martini, but in a gin and tonic, they can come and play.

That was gonna be my question because you guys are martini guys, specifically gin martini guys, and you have preferences on your gin. Yeah. Like Mike, I've heard you order beef eaters. Is that your kind of go-to for gin martini guys and you have preferences on your gin. Yeah. Like I Mike, I've heard you order beef eaters that you're kind of go to that or like tang gray if they don't have that or sapphire. Because OK, the other thing I have is tang gray, which is not as botanical as like a Hendrix, right? But it is.

Is it more botanical than this? I think Hendrix goes nicely with a G&T. OK, with lime. Here's what I've gotten wrong on the pod before. When I've said bot on the pod before. When I've said botanical, like I guess that I just never knew what juniper tasted like. So when a gin had a lot of taste, I was like, whoa, botanical.

But I think. Wow, that's botanical. That what I'm tasting, like, because gin is made, it's like a neutral spirit that that's then redistilled with the juniper. So it's like a neutral spirit that's then redistilled with the juniper. So it's like grain alcohol, then redistilled with juniper berries. So the taste we're getting with Beefeater or like Gordon's or Seagram's, all those really

straightforward gins that I like, I do think that's juniper. And then as you get up the shelf into fancy hipster-y brands that are ours, and I think they're throwing some, oh, there's coriander in there, and there's this, and there's that. Oh. So where does tangereh fall? Tangereh is, that's a juniper-y taste,

and that's a higher up the shelf from, that's mid-shelf, that's eye-level shelf. Okay. That's not by your feet. But it's not as straight forward as a Beefeater. Correct, but that taste that it has, I don't know because I've never eaten straight juniper. I don't know if that's just like,

that tangery taste is pretty distinct. Is that just more juniper I'm getting, or is that something else that's throwing a curve ball in the mix? We need to go to like a gin tasting. Yeah. We need to. I would love that.

Also gin, I forget gin is stronger than your other boozes. You think they're all ages? It is. They're not. Gin is damn near 90, sometimes over 90. That would explain the sort of light feeling I'm getting in my head after drinking this drink so quickly.

Ha-dee-dee, ha-dee-doo. Mike, would you say that that light feeling is also helping with circulation and it's helping in its curing heartburn and it's increasing circulation. It's helping you cure the plague? Yes. I feel good. I feel like I don't have the plague any longer. God, they got so well, because that's

when I think gin originally, it's came from his other drink like gin, Evra, Jennifer. And that is something that like people drank in the Netherlands in the 1500s to cure the plague. It was like a cure-all for a lot of stuff, but then when the plague was the big problem, they're like, yeah, yeah, the plague.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry. They were drinking gin? Yes. During the plague? Do you have more history, Tim, to tell us? Oh yes. So. I'm curious most indeed.

Mike thinks of it as the Adirondack family vacation drink. Jeff is at the Americana outside the movie theater drinking with his friend Mookie, who's a big gin and tonic guy by the way he turned me on to the old, they had it, you know, the French restaurant Tex, Telly. Yeah. They used to have one with peppercorns in it. There was like a big barrel and that was good.

Really? But Mookie will make his own gin and tonics. He gets like the fancy gum like syrup and then he'll mix up the syrup with the with the soda water and the gin. So it's like the tonic syrup you mean? Like that's what gives it the tonic flavor? Yeah just like a fine winey syrup. I think it's funny like to me with gin I always picture a gin and tonic I think of it as like a daytime but kind of preppy I think it's funny, to me with gin, I always picture gin and tonic, I think of it as like a daytime, but kind of preppy. I think of it as like tennis club, golf club type of a drink. But then, don't you feel like in the late 90s or early 2000s, or maybe when we went

to college right before the cocktail resurgence when it was just mixed drinks, vodka cranberry, rum and Coke. I felt like gin and tonic was part of that for girls partying in college and stuff, just because it's a two ingredient mixed drink, but it's very different. It's funny to be chugging it out like a sorority house at night. It's funny, I so rarely see people drinking gin and tonics.

Like I hear Jack and Coke or like somebody, you know, rum and Coke or whatever. So much more than gin and tonic, even though it's like the same thing. And it feels old timey. Yeah, it feels old timey. It feels like the wrong place sometimes to be drinking. Like you wouldn't go to a like if you were in college,

go like a college bar and get a gin and tonic. Just feels like a wrong. I feel like I had gin early on in college and I was like, no, thank you. That's my least favorite. You know, it scares you off. I find a lot of people who can't do gin. Also, like, you know, when we were doing it in the year, you know, 2004. Yeah. Like this is pre madmen.

We had no reason to be reaching for gin. There was nothing going on in gin world that I cared about as a college student. And as a college student, it's like an abusive relationship with alcohol where you're just like drinking as much as possible. You're drinking like a like you're saying gin being 90 or be a higher proof is like, oh, that's why I don't like this because it made me so drunk and gave me a huge headache. And I puked.

Even vodka, like you, you hold your nose and drink a bunch of it. But yeah, vodka tended to be like the, it's just, well, we've dealt with it. It was happened during the, it's what this big infusion thing is. It's like vodka, just infuse anything with vodka. Yeah, you can hide it.

Right. But then, so if you take some vodka and then you put some juniper berries in it and you best gin the best gin Anyway, okay, so here are let me nutshell the history for you guys because it's cool. It's um nutshell It's a it's a it's a distinctly distinctly British military drink but with some kind of violent wild history and when I was reading up about gin and I was reading about up about tonic and as the two were converging it was like You know when you're watching the departed you got Leo on one side and you got Will hunting on the other side. Yeah, and then there's slowly as you move through the movie. They're kind of coming or

Heat the movie heat you're watching yes They're kind of coming or heat. The movie Heat you're watching. Yes. This is a good genre. Devil in the White City is kind of like that too, right? You're like, I got an architect and a serial killer and I'm watching them come closer and- An architect and a serial killer?

Yeah, an architect and a serial killer and watching them come closer and closer. Right. I forgot to put my desk up. I'm getting into standing mode because I feel like this is just kind of a fun standing drink. Outstanding drink. Yeah. You know, I stood for a drink a while ago and it was a

good episode. The great babe, maybe, maybe standings, the move. How would a stand? Not all of us have standing desks. Well, we want to see that crotch, Tim. Yeah, I just I just sound really far from the microphone. And you're just looking at my crotch. This is so cool. Everything just raised right up. Damn standing desk.

I haven't I haven't. We got to get a branch sponsorship. Yeah, that's Jeff. Do you have you done any like typing? That's my outstanding. Yeah, I can do it. I can do whatever, man. Have you like will you stand to be like, oh, yeah, no, no, no. Jesus, this feels really shaky being up so high, I've never done this. Oh, yeah, I've done it all. Oh, Jesus.

This feels really shaky being up so high. I think it's going to topple. Okay, Tim, you're talking about a nasty little history. Oh, okay. So on one end, much like Leo and Will Hunting. Hold on, is this going to be one of those histories where when you're done, I'm like, well, I'm sorry now that I said I love this drink so much.

Kind of. It is a very colonialism drink. But. Folks, I assure you, we had no idea about any of, it is a very colonial, colonialism drink. But. Folks, I assure you, we had no idea about any of this. No, you texted, you said, guys, can we do something more colonialism-ish? Okay, so on one end you got gin,

and on the other hand you got tonic. Do you not? Yes. You do, you do. You do, you do. You have to. Gin is like way back in the 1500s, they're having it in like the Netherlands. And it starts as like, coming from this Genever drink,

but it's like, they're saying, oh, it's curing the plague and it's good for circulation and it cures heartburn and all this stuff. But they're also drinking a lot, because the Dutch army is giving it to their troops and noticing like, hey, if you give two servings of gin to these guys before they fight, they're really brave. So it becomes like a staple of their culture in that way.

And they've won every battle. But it is funny, like if you're, I don't know if this guys happens to you in Fortnite, if you have these experiences, but when you're sober, you're scared A couple of drinks you valiant. Tim that's spot-on spot-on. So you're scared when you play that video game? In a way in a way he is once you once you drink down some of that blue curacao looking drink you do start kind of feeling like hey I can do anything because my shields are at a

hundred percent Tim. Having the shields at 100 is very important. We're more concerned about drinking shield juice. Yes, then Uniper. Shield juice? Well, just to make it simpler for you to understand, yes, shield juice, but this comes in the form of chug jug, mini jug.

How did this turn into an intellectual thing that you guys both play a video game I don't play. So now you're you have intellect. We have the floor. How did this take? I don't know how it became this, but it has. It has just become this. Have either of you guys ever heard of the British gin craze? No, I had not until I just read. This is a crazy thing that happened in like the the God.

There was a crazy early 1700s in London basically gin was over there in the Netherlands but then there's like a little upheaval in a little revolution in England and there's a new king and the new king William of Orange of course how did they get rid of that orange guy? The orange guy is the new guy. They got rid of the fuck. I want to say John. Damn. All right.

Oh, you were, you were looking for some ideas, Jeff. Yeah, I was looking for ideas. He's big into Jim and then he takes office. And this might make you think of some modern politics. They're having a dispute with France and the king says, okay, I'm going to put major huge tariffs on French brandy. No, no, no, oh, oh, we, we, we, oh, oh, oh.

Oh, no, no, no. So they're taxing the French brandy and then British people, they have beer, but now they don't have French brandy and this new king says, well, here's the thing, guys. I had this gin stuff when I was in Holland. So just everyone start making a lot of gin. Just go for it.

There's, at this point, there's like no, there's huge taxes on brandy that would be imported, but then he wants to get the like the grain market going. So he's like, everyone start making gin and there's just like no regulations. You can make gin, it's super cheap, you're not being taxed. Also men, women, children can all drink,

there's no drinking age, there's no regulations at all. And he's like, this will be good for the economy if we're turning all of our grain and juniper into gin. So that launches into this like decades of like a generation of just like gin drunkenness. In the first half of the 1700s in London, I hadn't heard of this, but people were just like men, women and children going to bars, drinking so much

that they passed out all the time, people dying, people like women like neglecting their children and selling the children's clothes to get more gin. Whoa, man. It's crazy. And then there's books about it, but it didn't, like, yeah, there's literally stories of a lady being like, I took my kid's school clothes off her body

and left my kid in a ditch, and I sold the clothes for money. But then I felt bad about leaving my kid in a ditch, so I strangled my kid. What the fuck? Everyone's just drunk for decades. I felt bad about leaving my kid in a ditch, so I strangled my kid. Like, these are, these are, everyone's just drunk for decades. See, this is why there needs to be law and order. Um, wait, now listen, hold on a second here. I just saw something.

I don't think, okay. I don't, you said Tim, this was the early 1700s. Yeah. I think this was more in the 1800s, what I'm about to talk about, but I saw an Insta-lil Instagram thing. The term hung over, the etymology of the term hung over comes from, I think it was in New York City,

this thing actually. It was like these, people would put ropes, like just in a bar or a put or a hotel or something, just ropes across like connecting wall to wall. You know, you picture that because renting rooms was so like, either it was too expensive or just like that you had no place to go. People would rent some space on this rope

and just like hang over it. So you'd be, it would be like, I have nowhere else to plop down, uh, and drunk as hell. And I'm like, it's so poor. This, this must've been like the, the, uh, depression or something like that. So people rent out spaces. It's funny that laying like hanging over a rope is better than just finding a little spot on the floor.

Lay on the ground. It was probably like, it was probably like, Hey, you can't be here type of thing. So like, like cops would move you around. So this place like, yeah, we're selling spots on his rope. Gee, like crazy. Yeah, it's it's like a hammock, but even less comfortable. I mean, the bleakest thing we've ever heard about is is the guys at you rustic when that used to open at six o'clock.

Oh, by the way. So that's that's where the phrase Taiwan on comes from. Have you heard this? No, I mean, I've heard about what we're going to go. We're going to Taiwan on meaning drink a lot. Yeah. But what it originally comes from is people with delirium tremens shaking. They would have to drink early in the morning and they would tie a bandana around their

wrist with with the shot glass in it, their drinking hand, and then loop the bandana over their neck and use the other hand to sort of stabilize like so. Like a pulley. Like a pulley over their neck. Yeah. To sort of, to sort of steady the shot glass coming up. And that's, that's hang one or tie one on. That's where tie one on comes from. It's a terrible thing we discuss every week.

Have I told you guys on pod about Graham Chapman from Monty Python during Holy Grail? You told us not on pod, yes, yes, yes. That it was like, he was an alcoholic, but he was like, the guys are letting me play King Arthur in this movie, I want to do a good job, I really want to show up for them, I'm not going to drink, so he didn't drink, but then his hands were shaky and he couldn't act so then the guys on set had

To be like maybe you should drink a little bit And he like drank a little bit each day just so that he could act and wasn't too shaky. Wow Damn, I'm seeing that I might be wrong with that tie went on but I don't know I think that I think I think I'm right but that is that is something I've heard that bit like the story we were told that you rustic people were doing that in the morning. Mm hmm. Somebody here saying that a cowboy would have to tie up his horse before he go get drunk and he'd tie one on. I don't think that's right.

He put a tie on and go get drinks. I'll be tying one on. You could be tying anything, folks. Either way, just come out and get drunk. So this gin craze, as much as the government tries to be like, okay, well, we're gonna put, now we'll put taxes on gin to try to cut down on the gin consumption.

That just leads to then there being like a whole culture of moonshine going on, bathtub gin moonshine happening. And then they're trying to cut down on it by like regulations against that. But then there just becomes this whole like snitch culture. They're like paying people to snitch. And I hate that stuff. Oh, I don't like, I hate that.

Snitches actually to me should get stitches in my personal opinion. Oh, now do you think that just because it rhymes? Yes. Because I think snitches should get British's underwear. Yes. Yes. Yes. We all should have underpants. What eventually makes the gin craze end is literally just a culture shift.

Like the people are like, this is we don't want to be drunk anymore. And like there's a rise of a middle class and families being like, let's not be drunk. And it kind of balances itself out. But British people love gin. That's the whole deal. Now one might ask about tonic water, you say? Yes, quinine. C'too. See, this is what I mean about Leo and Will hunting being the two sides of the two things kind of converging. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now still British though. We're talking British colonial era that we're talking about

British England taking big chunks of India. Did they not? They did. These Brits are sending their troops all over the globe and they're colonizing, but they're getting malaria, Malaria, bad air. Because mosquitoes are biting them and giving them malaria and making them all sick.

Yeah. And they're like, what are we gonna do about this malaria? Bad air. Meanwhile, over in Peru, the locals have found a way to cure malaria is using, making a powder out of the bark of the fever tree Timothy of the fever tree, which which I don't like that just Yeah, these days there's a brand called fever tree. That's yeah complete compared to badger bevs, right? Yeah

but So like there's some priest who goes to Peru and sees this and he brings it back to the British and says, hey, this powder from this fever tree bark. Against the bark, yeah. It cures malaria. And they say, well, okay, well, let's call this stuff quinine.

And they go, well, perfect. Why does that work? Exactly. And he says it works nine times out of 10. Okay. Good, good, well we have our name. It is funny how some drink histories do have things as stupid as that in there.

Anyway, so they start, British colonial troops are all given this quinine tonic, this like a gross bitter syrup, and they say, hey, everybody drink this syrup so that you don't get malaria, but like a year or two in, it's not working, everyone's still getting malaria, and they're like, what's going on? And they find the troops are like not doing it with their,

you give them something bitter and tell them to take it, and they're like, this stuff tastes bad. But, and they're like, you gotta really do this, you gotta have this stuff, man. You've got to do it, man. And then a British troop, an unnamed, lost to history, British colonial soldier mixes his gin, that's rations to him, two rations of gin,

he mixes it with his tonic and... I think his name was, I did read about this, Tim, I think his name was Jim Antonok. Jack Antonok's great-great-grandfather. No, gin and tonic, I was kinda trying to get close to. Go ahead. I know that. Um...

Actually, listen to this, though. I know that. You know why these guys, they've got this tonic syrup with quinine in it and they're able to bubble it up using the first ever bottled carbonated water made by Schwab, Johan Schwab. Schwab did that. Schwab. That's what you've been up to down there.

Yes, I want to do what the bubbles in the water. They would eventually make their own tonic water. But it must have been able to hear that. I think it's yeah, I think his headphones are off. I heard it and I laughed off my I didn't even laugh. I just wanted to point out that Schweppes is garbage compared to Badger Bevs. Oh, yeah, of course. And I love Schweppes.

I would never keep tonic around. But here I am just drinking tonic water straight from the bottle. Look at Jeff. That's what I was saying is badger bevs, even like the ginger ale or whatever is good. Here's the best thing too. Badger bevs, they come in 8.45 ounce bottles,

big glass bottles. So I can make two gin and tonics with this and have a little leftover for sips. For a sip. 0.45 ounce. Speaking of two gin and tonics, I just see that's just what I came to too. I just remembered I've got some Empress gin, I think. Oh, Empress the purple. I think I still do. What'd you got Tim? Neil Campbell gifted me some top shelf hipster, artisan gin called a mass that's got all kinds of botanicals in there. And that's what I want to use for my round two.

Ooh, a mass. And me, a simple tangere. Oh. Oh, Jeff. Well, before we go, did you guys squeeze any lime in there? Cause normally I do. And this time I did it to the letter of the lodge. I put the wheels in there and let it be.

See, I always think with garnish, it's you can either, garnish means you can squeeze that. It's an option, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I did squeeze. You can, you can. Yes, I squelched. Okay, all right, folks, we'll be right back with round two after this.

If I ever meet Tom Collins, I'll kiss him on the lips. He squeezes little hips, do some twirls and dips. Hold him in my grips to thank him for the sips because they got me. And we're back with round two. Let's see them. Looking good. And I want lemon this time. Nice.

Sips. Sips. I didn't have that Empress that I thought I had. I still just have the. Yes, that is different. Um, wait, what you went Tangere? I did a Tangere instead of Beefeater And yeah, it's just a little more bitter, garden-y stank, I want to say.

Ooh, there it is. Yeah, I'm getting that to the, I'm doing this amass stuff that comes in like a slate black bottle and it's very peppery. Yeah, yeah. There are all kinds of herbs coming through here, all over the place, but it good. I don't like that in a martini, but I'm loving it in this.

Terrible. Mm-hmm. Herbs. Interesting, interesting. I pretty much just made the same thing. I was trying to think of maybe something to plop in there, but I don't know what you can do. Do you use the same stuff?

Yeah, I only had one type of gin. I didn't have any of the emperors. I'll tell you what you can do, Mike. If you squeeze. I must have used it on martini's pest. If you use both lemon and lime, it's called an Evans. Evans? I never heard of that.

An Evans tonic or just an Evans? An Evans. An Evans. An evanescence. I'll have the Evans, please. The Evans susso. Ooh, you sus-a-me. Oh, that's why when I'm out of clubs all the time, people are always like, sus-a-me, baby.

Me? Me? I can't sus-a-you. That's only, well, you know, sus-er. Well, final thoughts. I was going to say this in the beginning. Stone Cold Classic. SCC? classic. SCC. SCC is the place to be when you're talking to me about a G&T.

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But, oh, that was the thing, as I was, the last little button on the history, that's sad, is like, when this British army guy puts this together and everyone starts doing it, and then it becomes a British military drink, and then it's like, it helped colonialism because now. Right, right, right. They gave him quinine to be like,

now go colonize more and more effectively. So like the British colonization of India, this big awful thing was made possible more by this very drink. So I don't like that aspect of it. I try not to think about it when I'm drinking my nice little tennis drink here. Isn't it funny that like brands that are still around have have those sort of historical roots and like historical conflict?

Like the British colonialization of India is like brought to you by Schweppes. Right. Right. Right. You say we like a lot of German brands are like, yeah, we were around for that. We were making tags for a certain group. I remember hearing Birkenstock was like part making like Nazi boots or so. I don't know if that's true. Check that out before you don't. Hugo Boss. Yeah. Just like, well, Hugo Spritz. Sorry, buddy. And hey, related, well, Hugo Spritz. Sorry, buddy.

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