The Sloppy Boys - 246. Caesar with Stefan Babcock

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

The guys welcome Stefan Babcock (PUP) and chug the clam juice classic!CAESAR RECIPE: 1.50z/45ml VODKA4oz/120ml CLAMATO2 dashes WORCESTERSHIRE2 dashesTABASCOto taste PREPARED HORSERADISHCombine ingredients in a mixing glass with ice. Serve in an ice-filled glass rimmed with celery salt. For "Stefan Style," include pickle, celery stalk and extra horseradish.Recipe via Liquor.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks! Uh oh! And oh no! The Sloppy Boys are going on tour! We can't wait! We're gonna go on tour this fall! We're gonna hit so many cities! We're so pumped! I can't even wait! We? I'm with you Tim! I also can't wait! In fact, I can't wait for October 12th in Nashville, Tennessee! At City Winery? That's it! Yeah, at City Winery! That's a podcast show, you understand? October 14th, the band's gonna be rocking Chapel Hill, North Carolina at Local 506. Oh yeah, and the very next day, October 15th in Washington, D.C., we're rocking Pearl Street Warehouse.

October 17th in Philadelphia, we're at Milk Boy. Uh oh, October 18th, we're doing a live podcast in Newark, New Jersey. That's a cocktail show, we're talking Victoria Theater. That's good, come on out and chug, chug, chug. And then, on the 19th, we're in Boston, Mass. We're at Victoria Theater. That's good, come on out and chug, chug, chug. And then on the 19th, we're in Boston, Mass. We're at the Middle East. Ah, the famous Middle East upstairs at the Middle East.

Very nice. Then on October 22nd, we're heading south to Hamden, Connecticut. We're heading up the Space Ballroom. That's Hamden, folks. And then folks, on a serious note, October 23rd, we're going to be in my hometown, Woodstock, New York, at Colony Rockin'.

I just can't wait. That's such a fun venue. My family's coming. Sort of a homecoming tea cat showdown. Oh, very nice. October 24th, we're in Amherst, Massachusetts of the Drake. Ooh, that's pretty good. And hey, I don't think all the fun's happening in October.

November 4th in Denver, Colorado, the Gothic Theater, folks, that's a podcast. Come out and see a live podcast. You're welcome, Denver. You've been asking for us to come to a live podcast and we're finally gonna be there. But don't think we're staying there for the rest of our lives because November 6th, we're gonna be rocking Minneapolis, Minnesota.

The Zora, darling, oh, the band's gonna rock that place. And we should also check out Prince's House. Ooh, the Paisley House. On November 7th, we're gonna make our way over to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the X-Rayed Arcade. Love that place, we're gonna rock it. Love that place. Oh, our glorious return.

And then hey, don't forget the 8th, Chicago, Illinois, we love Chicago. We're playing Beat Kitchen. That's another two-show showdown. You come to the early show, or you come to the late show and get nasty with your boys. We played there last New Year's Eve. That was a nice time. Yeah, and you know what's cool for Chicago?

July 24th, we're going to be playing at the I.O. Theater. But that's not part of this ad, because November 9th, we're going to be rocking Indianapolis, Indiana, Black Circle Brewing, wow! November 11th Columbus, Ohio at the Roomba Cafe. Pretty good. And the next day the 12th Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Craft House. Okay and then to everyone who thought that we won't be doing a live podcast November 13th in Cincinnati, Ohio, at the Commonwealth Sanctuary. We got news for you. You're wrong. Wrong. And guess what? On November 14th, we're back at it with that rock and roll music

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I think it's gonna be so much fun and I also can't wait to eventually announce a top secret New Year's Eve kind of a thing coming soon. But I can't say. Different head, top secret New Year's Eve kind of a thing coming soon, but I can't say it. Just a different hand! Just a different hand! Oh, just be ready for some New Year's Eve stuff! Folks, we'll see you out there Fall Winter 2025. All that money you've been saving up for Christmas presents, spend on us.

And come out and party with us fall winter long. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe Heeeey! Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford. Hello. And Tim Kalkakis. What is up? Oh, and joining us today, we have a very special guest,

singer-songwriter, you know him from the Toronto punk band Pup. Please welcome, Stephen Babcock. Woo hoo! Wow. Okay, now wait a second. You now, Stefan and Jeff, you guys have collabed, right? You guys, you guys made a music video together at one point. Oh, you refer to the big collab. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I refer to. Well, Stefan and I still have not met in the flesh. Yeah. But we. Is that true? Yeah. Because I shot a video for Matilda, an incredible song by Stefan. Yeah. But we. Is that true? Yeah. Because I shot a video for Matilda, an incredible song by Stefan. Yeah. And that was a zoom thing.

And then you all shot separately. Yeah. And then we shot down in and then through the magic of editing. Yeah. It was brought together. A lot of is generous. We do shit. Hey, you made the song. We made the song. That's true. Jeff would not have had much to work with.

That was Jeff, Jeff brain child. Great job by the way. Oh, thanks buddy. I really liked that you wrote a song from the perspective of a guitar that doesn't get used so much these days. Yeah, it was like the Toy Story of guitars. You wrote a song from the perspective of a guitar that doesn't get used so much these days. Yeah, it was like the Toy Story of guitar. We talked about like the island of misfit toys from like the Rudolph thing. Like the gun that squirts jelly.

Stevan, do you consider do you consider a song to be like the script for a music video? You know what my first reaction was? What trash like who would you would think that and then something clicked over my brain is like, actually, that's probably how most people write songs these days. Thinking about what the music video could be. Yeah, or like what the TikToks gonna look like?

That's how we think that's what we read our could be. Or yeah, or like what the TikTok's going to look like. That's how we think. That's what we write our albums. We're like, how can we make a TikTok that gets 43 likes? How do we make it as effortful as possible as well? Mm hmm. That is like, oh man, that is such a thing. Just like trying so hard on everything and then watching people who don't give a shit succeed. It's like, I think that look like they don't give a shit though and succeed. I think are giving a lot of shit like the influencer types. Yeah, influencer types. Yeah, but I mean extremely neurotic boys.

And we try so hard. Like we think about the song so carefully. We think every moment in the song, there's nothing that like sneaks under the radar. And it kind of drives us nuts. And then lately we kind of been like, what if we just don't do that and just grip it and rip it?

Sure. Buddy. It feels good. And it honestly, I think it feels way better. I think the songs are just like way more fun and banging and like, so. But if you started from that perspective from the get go, I think you wouldn't be who you are now. Like you have to, I think, be very fine-tuned early on. Wouldn't you think?

Well, yeah. I mean, when you... I guess when you... It wasn't a wasted effort is what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, for me, I won't speak for my bandmates, but for me, I had to try really hard at the beginning because I really sucked at music. And I continue to suck at music, but just like almost purposefully, like I'm extremely competent at what I do, but suck at other things. Yeah. We suck at music too, so we could kind of take a page out of your book.

Like we can do our version of music well. Yeah, yes. That's the important thing. Yeah. It's funny though. I mean, like, I think that that's baked into your whole thing, like your lyrics too, there's a lot of like, like, you might call it embracing the calamity.

Mm-hmm. Ooh. But like, I do feel like there's like, it's funny that you would musically sound that, but at the same time, you do have lyrics about like, your messy, messy life, like, like just going with that or whatever, you know? So it kind of is is is all is all part of the stew. Mm hmm. Yeah.

When you say like your four like major overthinkers, it is funny to have like a punk band, like a ferocious, fast, loud punk band, but have the attention to detail as well, which I think is probably the balancing act that is like really worked out for you all. It was it's the type of thing where like when I first heard that heavy metal music was like really difficult to play, I was like, yeah, right. It's just fast. Yeah. Especially like in metal with those little like gallop parts.

Like, see, we have like a couple moments in pop that are like that. And it's like, when we get in the studio, I'm just like, I'm not even trying to play this. Like I'll hang that for the guitar for that moment. Is everybody on the same page about gripping it and ripping it though? Or have some people had Like trouble grip, but they don't want to rip They're like this. Um, we just rip no, but I mean like like I love the new album and it does sound like but I wonder Are there guys that are that were like kind of want to in the mix or like right before?

Delivering album that are still want to be all picky and then you had had to say like, no, remember we're gripping a ribbon. Oh, that is like a conversation we were having like every day we were writing and recording the record. Because like it's so hard to push back on those habits. Like these things that we've been doing for a decade for four records, like trying so hard to like not overthink after all you've done your whole life is overthink everything, you know? Yeah. Trying so hard to like not overthink after all you've done your whole life is overthink everything, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a challenge. And to be clear, like the way that we didn't overthink it is like the

pop version of not over thinking it, which is like, we really thought about it too much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like just, just like we used to do this thing that we would just put everything under the microscope, especially like Zach and Nestor would have practices themselves where they were sure everything was perfectly lined up. The kick and the bass were perfectly in sync. And then I would have a day with Nestor where we made sure all the rhythms that we were playing were perfectly in sync. And then I would have a day with Nestor where we made sure all the rhythms that we were playing

were like perfectly in sync. And it served us like, that's why like we could get away with being like a messy band, but like being really particular. What was that? Was that, were you guys just rehearsing together or were you laying down the tracks for that? Like when you when you and Nessa were like getting together.

So that that's that was kind of the magic of those records is like everything was just tracked like together. Together. Okay. Yeah. So we would like rehearse the shit out of these songs practice, make sure everything was lined up just musically and we would just go kind of play it, play it as good as we could together. Crazy is three quarters of playing really well and me like holding on. Damn, dude. Well, yeah, I mean, it's crazy that, yeah, you've been doing it for 10 years with the

same group of guys like we similarly, we got a long track record of collabing. But Jeff, we should get in the room together and lock in like the rhythm in. Yeah, Tim keeps suggesting that the rhythm in once and for all. You know what I mean? I love it when you guys exclude when you guys refer to yourselves as the rhythm section and exclude me from that. I would love it if you guys had a lot of secret rehearsals where you get in the pocket.

We're having a barbecue this summer, but we could bring a guest. Can you each bring a guest? Well, I hope I get to be one of your plus ones. Stab it if you want to come too, we could get you out. Let's do it. It is sort of a company picnic type of thing. Hope I get to be one of your plus ones. So if you want to come to we could get yeah It is company picnic time What does playing in the pocket even me? I don't know man

If I knew Stefan I would be there all the time. I'd be playing me out of the pocket Musicians are rarely in the pocket for what I understand Yeah, similarly, I'm like supposed to be in the rhythm section because I'm the lead rhythm guitar player. Okay. But I'm not part of the rhythm section meeting. I heard Pete Townsend say he considered himself rhythm section because he's playing chords and stuff.

He's like, I am the rhythm. They look to me. He didn't ever do still solos or anything. Did he like like here and there? But he was it was a windmill. And but he said he was like, I couldn't rely on Keith Moon to that's not a rhythm section. That's like a weirdo. It's just constant.

I couldn't rely on him. I can't rely on him. So well, then, speaking of the precision or sloppiness of a band, when we had Jeff Rosenstock on the show recently, he said he writes songs about anxiety and stuff so he doesn't drink before a show because he wants to feel anxious and he wants to feel those feelings he felt when he wrote the song, whereas we as a band are totally pretty much completely drunk at all of our shows. What has been what's the I know you guys have probably had a whole journey with it but like right now these days how much is how much guys you guys like partying during

before during a show? Me? Not. I used to. Definitely more. But yeah, it just started saying dumb shit into the microphone. I feel a lot. Two plus two is five. That type of shit. I'm just doing math.

Incorrectly. You're like, what did I say? Two plus two is five. That type of shit. I'm just doing math and. And. You're like, what did I say? I suck some math. Great musician. He sucks at. Yeah, I don't I don't. I don't really drink before we play anymore.

I sometimes on the very rare occasion, I'll have a drink before we play. It's very rare occasion, I'll have a drink before we play, but it's very rare. I think like playing shows for me is like there's like my brain is so I don't know what I'm trying to say. So involved in it that like I don't really need it. It's kind of a fucked up brain experience for me sober. So I just don't need to be, you know, yeah, enhancing it or delegate. I don't know. But the other guys definitely are different with that. You know, I think like, they might say not all of them, a couple of them might say like they play better after a couple of drinks because I feel more comfortable. It's like how I used to say in high school, like I was a better driver when I smoked weed

because I would be more focused. Yeah. Really focused and scared. Look at that road. The road. So yeah, we're all we're all kind of different in that department. But yeah, I kind of don't don't really drink. I have I have some more like music questions,

but you want to keep this thing moving, Jeff and me get the man. We're getting pretty deep in. We're only because I know that's what I'm saying. I want to have a nice. Yeah, me too. Me too. Well, before we get this thing moving, Jeff, and we get the man. We're getting pretty deep in. We're only going to know. That's what I'm saying. I want to have a nice. Yeah, me too. Me too. Well, before we get into the drink, Mike, you know, we have to. I know, you know, we have to do a bit, bit, bit booze. Nice. Baby, baby.

Hey, then we have to wait. So booze news hit it. Me and my boys at this point We're gonna make the drink of the summer. We're gonna make the drink of the summer. Summer, grant us all the power to pour a cocktail sweet and sour. Or bitter, salty, or umami. Or ashy! Let this be my annual reminder that we can all be cool bartenders. That we can all be cool bartenders Raise a toast to the Tom Coggins Going into a pursuit chorus Espresso, martini, spaghetti, spritz and Negroni

Getting drunker makes it harder to remember Ratios. We are all only slopheads. We're gonna make the drink of the summer. Drink of booze, you say what? Drink of the summer was sent to us by Red, AKA Danny Noonan on the Sloppy Boys Discord. And if you have a booze news theme,

email it to thesloppyboyspodcastatgmail.com. That was the Hold Steady. That was a constructive summary. You ever tour with them? Any road dog with the Hold Steady? No, but I have met Craig a few times. Wonderful human being. His new record, his new solo record's really fucking good.

I feel like I'm a big old steady fan, but even I, I check out after a certain amount of, oh, they're really good, they do this thing, I know what that thing is, same thing, but I kind of dip back in on this record, it was really, really good. Yeah, I listened to that, the new Craig Finn record, and liked enough that,

Craig Finn is the one and only sub stack that I subscribe to. And he'd like, and like when I get to EMA, I'm like, I want to hear those, what was going on behind that song. And like, I've actually stuck with it for a couple of months. I feel like I've never made it past like one week of a sub stack before.

Is he doing, is his sub stack all about his song, like behind his songs? I mean, it'll be all of months. I feel like I've never made it past like one week of a sub stack before. Is he doing is his sub stack all about his song like behind his songs? I mean it'll be all of everything you know just like whatever it's it's like how we treat our Patreon. You just throw a lot of stuff at the wall but sometimes yeah it's like the inspiration for a song and he's a really good writer so it's cool to what like even just read a well-written email from him and look at that email. What an artist. Damn, that's a good email.

Damn. Well, what's the actual blues news, Tim? OK, this was just a quick dumb thing that I saw that was like a study recently that caused a bunch of conversation online. And I saw it as just one of these Instagram posts. It's like a headline but not attributed to anything. But a viral conversation that was going on

on Reddit this week based on a study that it was revealed that, I actually don't know if this is even remotely surprising, but people were, at any given moment, a study has shown that at any given moment, 0.7% of the Earth's population is drunk. So that's-

0.7? If it's eight billion people, that means that right now, 55 million people are drunk. Wait, what? You gotta think like a lot of the, it's during the day for a lot, like half the world, right? And then the other half's sleeping. Wait a minute, what do you mean 0.7%?

Of the population. So like not 1%, lower than 1%. Okay. 0.7%. I feel like that sounds low, right? Yeah, that sounds way too low. What's the threshold of drunk? Ooh, interesting.

Maybe it's 0.08. Maybe it's the driving one. I mean. I would think, hmm, that's weird. Cause you hear those stats, it's like every second somebody dies and every second someone's born. Like that doesn't seem, that seems way too big. What are you gonna do?

Like do your own fact check study to, I mean, how do you measure something like that doesn't seem that seems way too. What are you going to do? Like do your own fact check study to I mean, how do you measure something like that? I would just take ask around. I just got to take it as it is. Ask around. You drunk? No, you drunk. This guy's drunk over here. All right. I checked that off. He's not drunk.

These guys in this bar drug. Did you did you say people or adults? Hmm. People. Those babies are not drunk. Actually, you know what though? I read a different article about how like Gen Z is really not drinking. There's like a pretty steep cutoff that it's like. That's so weird that they all fervently listen to the Sloppy Boys podcast all the same. Yeah, every one of them.

Yeah, it says 100%. That's weird. That's weird. But have you seen that it's like, just in general, it's like, I mean, they, weed is legal now, so they all kind of got more into weed, but just that there's like not as much of a drinking culture, so much so that there's some drinking etiquette that isn't being passed down. And I just saw, there was like a New York Times article

about how Gen Z kids are closing their tabs after every round of drinks at bars, and it's pissing off bartenders because they have to keep closing out and closing out. But like young drinkers, they're like, I'm probably just going to have the one, and then they close out, and then they get a second one and they close out,

and then it's becoming a problem. Oh my God, that's so funny. That's so weird to see a trend of young people not drinking because obviously those kids grow up and our bar's going to be going, there's so many bars everywhere. We're going to to read articles like Gen Z is killing the bar industry. That just seems like crazy if down the line bars start closing just because there's not a lot of people that's a drink.

I don't know. They just seem so a bar is always around. I mean, I even heard they're not smoking as much because like weed isn't counterculture anymore, which is part of it. What the hell they're doing. What are they doing? Whippets probably tide pods still eating ass. Oh, God. That's a good way to get an eye infection. The tide pod thing is so overstated. You know, I thought it's like it was like a challenge.

It's like no kid ever liked eating tide pods. It's like it's like a trick you do. I was outside, or walking into a gas station the other day, and some teens were, there was like at night, some teens were kind of walking towards the door as I was. For some reason I got in my head that they were going to ask me to buy them beers or something, and I was just like, fuck, what do I say to these kids?

I'm not buying them beers, but I don't want to sound uncool. What am I going to do? They didn't ask me anything, but it's just thinking like, Oh man, I've never been in this position before. What am I going to do? I don't want to go to jail, man. I'm going to jail, but I don't want to be uncool. Oh, man, I think they're going to start drinking.

Grow up. Yeah, they'll start. Yeah. I mean, it probably would just come. I mean, if we just told them to grow up, like if we just wagged a finger, it's like, grow up. But I mean, I do think things come around just in, like things are cyclical, and I feel like people didn't drink cocktails for a really long time, and then they saw Don Draper have an old fashioned,

and everyone was like, oh, cocktails. But I think it's just in terms of drinking alcohol, I think, Stefan, you might be right, because they will grow up, and as everyone grows up, you sort of realize the pitfalls of human nature and how dark and sad it is, and I think it draws everyone to drink pretty much at some point.

Yeah, it's like, you just haven't lived enough. You haven't taken your knocks. I mean, there's a reason, like, alcohol sales are huge every single year. Yeah, like I found this thing with alcohol where like you can actually use it to like self medicate. Right, right, right. Well, that's it for booze news.

Oh wait, no, Jeff, I have booze news. Okay, I got some stand updates coming up. I'll be in Westerly, Rhode Island on July 11th. I'm there. There? Is this July 11th? This airs? That's where I'll be in Westerly, Rhode Island on July 11th. I'm there. There is this July 11th this airs. That's where I'll be. Then I go to Toronto. Oh, Stevan, you'll like this.

Toronto, Ontario on the 26th of July. Be there. Then in August, Cleveland, Ohio, Nashville, Tennessee, Cincinnati, Ohio, and Bethlehem, PA in September. Find me on my socials and get those tickets. Folks, they're good shows. Where are you doing your term show? The Comedy Bar on Bloor.

Yeah, been there before, sold out. It's two shows that night and last time I was there, I sold them out. Great audiences, great time. Nice dude. Yeah, dude. I feel like we have friends that came out of the Comedy Bar.

Like that was the whole, like a whole scene around that place. Yeah, Sarah Hennessey, I think Alana Johnson maybe? We just did a really good show at the Great Hall. You ever play there, Stephens? Yes. Yeah, that was cool. That was a hot crowd for us, which we're not used to. Hot crowd and nice big room.

Yeah, Toronto's great for that stuff. Yeah Yeah, what's your what's your favorite place in Toronto to play? uh It's like but maybe not like big play like bar bar scene or smaller stuff There used to be a place called the silver dollar, which is a greatest place on earth But it's gone There you know like whatever sneaky deez, I guess. Begrudging.

And they've been a sneaky deez. I've heard that. Yeah. Well, I went to University of Toronto my freshman year. Oh, cool. I mean, kind of. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. And then he moved to Ithaca. So wait, why'd you leave Toronto Mike? Did we ever talk about this? Yeah, it was just a giant, it was humongous school.

And I realized I wanted to do more practical film stuff. So I had to go there. I had to leave Toronto, just because they didn't really offer that noise. At the time. You were doing more film theory, but you wanted to get your hands on a Panasonic, Panaflex.

It was ultimately gonna be just like four years of film theory. I said, yeah, I got no theory about what makes me enjoy this. I got a theory this sucks. I'm ready to grip and rip. We're the G-I-R-I. All right, that's it for Booze.

Wait, wait, wait, we'll plug, Sloppy Boys are playing in Chicago on July 24th. Yes. And the Comedy Central show I write for, Digman premieres July 9th. Comedy Central, check that out. Ooh, Tim, I'm noticing, yeah,

I noticed the Wattingo shirt. Yeah, and hey, there's a whole big pup tour coming with Jeff Rosenstock, right? Yes, yeah. Yeah, when is that? Starts in beginning of September. I think it's like five or six weeks, it's a long one. You coming to New York?

Yes. No, they're skipping New York. I'll be there. Is there a Sneaky D's in New York? Strangely, we are playing. We're doing six shows in Toronto in a couple of weeks. And one of them is that sneaky D's. So that's awesome.

Hell, yeah. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. I'm going to look up sneaky D's. All right. Well, is that it for Boo's News or does anybody else have surprise listings? No.

Please wrap it up. All right. That's it for booze news. Have I been to Sneaky D's? I'm looking at these pictures. I don't know. Like Sneaky D's is booed. That's in the past, man.

We're looking forward now. I know, I know, but I'm looking at the wall. This is the type of place in the bathroom, they don't care if you write on the walls. It doesn't seem. It doesn't seem that way. There's stickers are holding it up. We spray painted pop like in the urinals,

like one letter in each urinal. And they were like, that's cool. That is cool. I'll say the only graffiti I don't like, the only is carved into the toilet seat itself. Yes, I agree. You know, when somebody takes a knife and they're just, you know, like, yeah, you're like breaking the enamel that kind of makes you feel like it's clean.

And I have to sit on that. Oh, I got to put my nasty ass on that. Also, like, you're probably doing that after you've had a few drinks and you're just like in there with your face inches from the toilet seat. Yeah. Probably like holding it steady with your left hand and carving with your right. Got your arm up into the hole of the toilet to hold it in place. Still warm from the last person.

All right, guys, this is nasty talk. This is nasty stuff. Let's get away from this. This is nasty, man. Nasty boy. Let's leave all nastiness behind us. Goodbye. Turn our attention to the beautiful, bright future. That is the drink of the day.

Folks, today we're talking the Caesar pizza pizza. Oh, sure. We've covered it before, but we didn't know shit about it. And now we have an expert, Stefan, when we were talking on the. Take it away. Take this. Wow. Me. I just heard some sort of like presentation.

When we were talking over text, you brought up this and a couple of other drinks. And but then you said something that shocked me. You said, can you even get Caesar mix down here? I was like, y'all have Caesar mix up there? Oh, like a Bloody Mary mix, just. I have a few things to say about this. Okay, now's the time.

First of all, in Canada, I should explain. Mostly Caesars, like you can make them, and I have made them, but they have like really good like pre mixed with alcohol in it. Caesar's we talking about bars and restaurants or like a grocery store. We don't really get booze at most grocery stores but like at the place where you buy alcohol. Yeah, there'll be like cans of like Caesar

and you can get different flavors and whatever. And they got vodka in them. Some of them have gin in them, which is despicable, but yeah. So the normal thing would be to get it like a pre-made thing cause they do a really good job of that. But is that a beer store? Are there beer stores in Toronto?

What do you call it? It's like a package store or something or? Where they sell just beer. That's, there is a beer store? Are there beer stores in Toronto? What do you call it? It's like a package store or something or where they sell just beer. That's there is the beer store. Yeah. But that would you'd find that at probably the LCBO. Oh, yes. LCB. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. But I had it in my brain that like, you know, like Canada does Caesars, America does Bloody Marys. So I was like thinking, I'm never going to find Clamado juice here.

I'm just never going to, I'm never going to find that here. And then I saw it at the grocery store. It's like normal drink. And I got to say, I'm shocked. I just thought like Canada is like weird and quirky, like fucking clam juice in our cocktails. That's so weird. But you guys are out here like raw dogging clam juice.

No, there's different kinds of clam juice. Oh man. That is. But yeah, it is very funny to be drinking Clamato not as part of a cocktail. And then that's just like, what do you want to do? Like, hey little boy, what juice are you gonna drink today?

Clam. I had a tough time purchasing my Clamado today. I almost- Couldn't bring yourself to do it? Morally or? I, well, just because of the taste. I don't like the taste of it or the idea of it and I almost went for a tomato Juice and was like or tomato whatever. Yeah juice I guess and was like, you know, maybe I just won't tell him

But I didn't do that. I got the actual stuff for you. You can't taste the clams I know but I looked I was like maybe it's just called climate clemato and there's not and I looked at it was like no There's clams Clemato. Yeah, Clamado. We all say Clamado just to fancy it up. Clamado. Clamado, Clamado. You're in LA now, right?

You moved to LA? I kind of split my time. Oh, okay. Ooh, Mr. Surf Guy, all right. Well, he splits his time. Hang 10, man. One thing Mr. Surf guy. All right. He splits his time. Hang 10, man. One thing I learned was that like when the drink was invented, they were making it from scratch. But then I think once Mott's was making Clemato,

they started pushing it as a Michelada thing. So I think that that's maybe why we have it in California more. It's such an LA thing or California is I bet that more, more of it is being sold or I mean, I'm sure people are drinking it straight too, but it definitely feels like meat gelato is our way more popular than Caesar's here. That's like half beer, half tomato. Yeah. And like ideally way more beer and a little splash of comada,

but some places really go nuts with it. And you can get them pre-canned now too, right? Like I feel like I've seen big cans that are like officially Bud Light and Motts Clamado. Yep, I've seen that. Damn. I'm kind of stoked because I got this big old thing of Clamado juice now.

I got it. Yeah. You're gonna finish it all today. Well, here's the recipe from liquor.com and we'll add the little tweaks. We're basically this is Stefan's recipe. Stefan correct me if I'm wrong. Celery salt to rim the glass. This is crucial.

He says ounce and a half vodka, four ounces, Clamado, two dash Worcestershire to dash Tabasco horse radish to taste garnish with celery stock. Liquor dot com says cucumber spear. We're going pickle and lime wedge. Yeah, that mostly sounds mostly. Oh, you got further tweaks. Yeah, well, I don't have what we're just we're just sure. Just to share. I don't have to share.

I'm going to forego that. But I usually don't have it, so I normally forego it. Nice. And I don't know why I bought a spicy clamado to avoid the dash of hot sauce. Smart. I saw that, too. I went I went classic, but yeah, I saw the pecan day. I'm hoping this hot sauce kills off any clam taste. I don't remember.

I don't remember. It just burns the taste right out. Hopefully. I don't remember doing the Clamado on the show. Or sorry, the Caesar on the show. And I Jeff says I didn't like it, but. You were traumatized. Yeah, maybe that's why I didn't remember it. Wait, so I've had a different, I've had this recipe, but I want to do it with your tweaks.

So I'm going to skip the Worcestershire. I also have the Picante Clamado, and then you said you like to do a lot of horseradish, right? You're a big horseradish guy. Yeah, I like, yeah. How much, you like to do a lot of horse radish, right? You're a big horse radish guy. Yeah, I like, I like, yeah. How much, you like a big spoonful or more? Yeah, well, I should tell you guys, like... Uh-oh.

I've never had one of these before. I've been LA and my place is like, I don't have stuff here. So I don't have any sort of measuring situation. Oh, that's okay. I'm gonna, you know, I'll figure it out. I think your Torontonian instincts are gonna kick in. Yeah. But yeah, I think it'll be fine.

I'll have to taste it as I'm doing it, kind of like when you're like cooking, you know? Yes. But we'll figure it out. Nice. Have them. Yeah. Bring the agrees with you so you can just kind of keep adding and more of that. Yeah, exactly. And I like the pickle right in there, too. That's going to be a lemon.

Oh, I got a lime. I got it. I don't got a lemon. Lemon. Yeah, I don't know if I have a lemon or a lime. I got both. What's better? Well, I would say lime, but Mike, how are you going to rim your glass? I have some. Oh, I have some like lime juice I can use for celery salt. Yes, as a sticking agent.

Yes. Yes. All right. Folks, we're going to make these drinks and when we come back first sips You got me, Tanks, Tommy! You got me, Plano, my boy! Oh, you got me! Right where you want me! You know, some of Caesar's like, that's like, I'm sure it's the same with Bloody Marys, but it's like the, what do you call them? Like the accoutrement?

No, not that. The garnish is like. Yeah, I like accoutrement. It can be like, yeah. I mean, sometimes they like go to weird restaurants and it's like they got like a spear with a burger. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. Some fried chicken on mine or whatever. I do like when they put a little bacon in.

Yes. Bacon. Yes. I'm like a garlic stuffed olive or a jalapeno. Yeah. Yeah. I got all that stuff with jalapeno or something like a garlic stuffed olive or jalapeno. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff with jalapeno or something like a blue cheesy thing. I feel like there's no garnish. None of those do I dislike but I don't like the tonnage of the places they're like we stack it up. We put like a chopstick and we put the burger in the fridge. It's hard to drink. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's a good one. Michael like this shrimp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know what's a good one?

Mike won't like this. Shrimp. Oh, I love it. See, I like shrimp. See, I would like shrimp in, because I like cocktail sauce. Did you guys take your sips yet? Oh no, we're back by the way.

Let's just be back. Is that okay? Let's see them. Look at these beautiful. Oh, look at the good tomorrow. Look at how much fucking horseradish on the boat. Dude, I put like a fuck like just a teaspoon of beaver extra hot horseradish, and I really hope I don't regret it because I like it.

I think I'll throw horseradish in like tuna fish or whatever else. But I'm going for it. Yeah, I'm going for it for six sips. All right. Yeah, I'm going for it. It's for sips. Sips. All right. Ooh. Oh yeah baby. We that's, I'm pushing it. I'm pushing it on the horseradish. To the max.

Put in this pickle straight in. Ooh, that's a nice. Ooh, that looks like, is that like a Bubbies pickle? That's like a nice gherkin. That's a nice gherkin. I had Bubbies horseradish, Tim. Bubbies is my favorite. Yeah, they're good.

I couldn't find, I went to the, I went to the supermarket today and I was getting all my stuff and I asked the guy, I was like, hey, do you have horseradish? He was like, hmm, I could tell he had never heard that word before. He was like, what does it look like? And I was like, huh.

I was like, hmm, what does it look like? It was like two guys, I was like, it's like a paste. And he's like, like a root. I was like, I think it starts as a root. Oh, my God. I just want to run as somebody else. And it was by the eggs of you imagine. That's the angers.

What does it look like? And where are you at Trader Joe's? Like I was at... He's in a bodega. Yeah, it was some place near me. It's like a chain, but I always forget the name. It's like Ideal Foods or something like that. Or Big Idea.

It's that place where you have to describe what the food looks like. And then they get it for you. The prices are great, but you leave there without anything. Mmm. what the food looks like and then they get it for you. The prices are great, but you leave there without anything. Look. This is delicious and there's something about, as it stacks up to the Bloody Mary, because like, Bloody Marys are so popular in America and I knew that Caesars were more of a thing there,

but it wasn't until we went, we haven't really been for real touring into the last couple years. And it really wasn't until we started playing like Vancouver and Toronto that I really saw Caesars on menus. And I remember we asked the bartender, Jeff, where was that?

Vancouver? Vancouver, and he said, I was like, do you make Bloody Marys here? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, but Caesars are more popular. And he was like, 10 to one, Caesars are more popular. Wow. Who you going to bet, yeah? I bet you 10 to one, they are more popular and he's like 10 to one. Seizures are more popular. Wow. Um, who's going to bet you, I bet you 10 to one.

I lost a lot of money there. What I get, I, I, it's shocking to me that like 10 to one, like that people would be opting for the clam juice one is as subtle as the clam is, but I think what this has going for it is it's like, it's really light, like Clamado, it has like high fructose corn syrup and stuff. It's not too tomato. It's not too soupy. It's like it's really light like comodo. It has like high fructose corn syrup and stuff. It's not too tomato. It's not too soupy. It's like zippy.

It's brighter and lighter. Yeah. Yeah. Less thick for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Bloody Marys feel like a sauce half the time. Like drinking salsa. Yeah. Drinking like gazpacho, you know, right? Yeah. Yeah. I put I put so much horseradish though.

I'm like I'm like chewing. That's how much it's not right. Yeah. I put I put so much horseradish, though I'm like I'm like chewing. That's how much it's not distributing very well. I was busy on the horse riders, but I mean, I put a couple of you told us to go hard. Well, OK. I don't know. I mean, you can see it. So you got some like nebulous clouds. Yeah, I'm seeing the flex. That's pretty good.

It's a good looking. That's a good looking celery to you out there, Stev. It's got the flower on the top. Oh yeah. It's good. Yeah, I specifically chose the one with the flower on the top just for you guys were picking this drink, you said, Caesar's great if we're just doing like a couple, because this is a drink that it would be very weird to be like. Oh, dude. Well, to have 10 of these. I mean, Mike and I used to do, I mean, we did it for what, three years, like a Bloody Mary party at our last apartment.

And so we would batch like a big old, you know, several gallons of Bloody Mary mix with all like the fixings and accoutrement on the sides. People could do what they want. And I had like three or four and I felt terrible. Yeah. Yeah. You just like, I got so salted out that I like,

I took a nap and I woke up and I was like, ET, when ET is all white and shriveled in the puddle. Yeah, yeah, beige ET. Next to the river? Yeah. That's a bad way to be. Yeah. Well, that's a bad way to be, ET.

To me, it's like, it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, delicious and disgusting at the same time, you know? Yeah. How do I overdo that? It's like, it's like, I feel the same way about like oysters. Like I fucking love oysters. Yeah.

Yeah. But like they're kind of disgusting or like even like a shrimp, like shrimp ring, you know, like you have like four shrimp. It's awesome. You eat the whole shrimp ring like. Yeah, yeah. You all been there. You ever had a bowl shot?

What's the bowl? It's like, it's beef broth and vodka, I want to say. It's a Bloody Mary, but instead of the tomato juice beef broth, I think is the easiest. Because Campbell's was trying to use their other cans in cocktails. That one I really did the easiest. Campbell's was trying to use their other cans cocktails. That one I really did not enjoy.

Is it cold? Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, it's pretty good. I think that was the big problem for me. Yeah, it's pretty good. Cold soups, a little odd. Yeah, I'll I'll have some of that hot soup with some vodka.

Can you do that at any restaurant? Vodka. Any restaurant, the soup of the day and add vodka to it. It's funny that that's particularly gross. Like the idea of vodka is something hot. Like there are cocktails you can drink hot, like hot toddies or whatever. But the idea of like having a brown liquor seems OK to heat up, but a clear liquor feels like it's gin or vodka or like a hot, like a warm tequila sunrise. Warm.

What is what's in a hot pot? Tea and whiskey. Tea and brandy? Originally, it's like hot water, lemon, honey, whiskey. But then yeah, a lot of people make it with tea. And you know, it's one of these things people say is medicinal, like, oh, I have a cold, I better drink a hot toddy.

What are the other hot drinks? Like Irish coffee would be a good one. Oh yeah. Butterbeer. What about a Tom and Jerry? Is that hot? What's that? Yes. That's like a hot eggnog old old timey

creamy creamer I love something like that. I love an eggnog. So you might be a Tom and Jerry guy. That's all right I just got a big bite of this stuff. Oh Ooh, I just fucking mouth that pickle Tim Tim, did you have a whole pickle? I had a Grillo's pickle in there. Have you guys noticed? Not a spear? No, it was a spear.

Oh, not the spear. Do you guys, have you noticed the marketing campaign from Grillo's Pickles all over the place? And then right now in Silver Lake, the whole side of what used to be the satellite music venue, no giant sign that says, I heart Grillo's. Is this an LA pickle? I don't think so. I just looked at the jar. It's manufactured in Massachusetts. Because I'm not getting any Grillo ads over here.

Well, my whole algorithm is Grillo and nothing else. I'm thinking when you're following the pepperonis that turned to the little grease cups, the guy that I follow three or four Instagrams about pepperonis, about small pepperonis. Pepperets. It'd be even better if I call him that. Stefan, you guys, you guys ever play satellite?

No. Really? Oh, that would have been good. I don't even know what that is. It used to be space land. I spent a lot of time in Silver Lake, but I don't know. Did it used to be space land? Am I talking to my ass?

Yeah, it was space land in the 90s, and then it was a satellite, and now it's a vacant building. But in LA LA you guys play like the palladium right i just saw the pixies there i just looked it up yeah you're playing with uh rosentuck at the play yeah and the paramount in new york i'm gonna come to that show it's in brooklyn that's a nice theater yeah i think we're seeing the pixies there soon wow night's there is fucking crazy that's awesome yeah two. You sold out the first night, it looks like. Yeah, that's nice. A lot of idiots in New York.

Hey, hey, hey, some of my friends are in New York. This is weird. I'm seeing you sold out the first night, but night two, zero tickets. Look, we barely got across the line on this first show. Let's open up another one. There's one guy out there that wants to see us. We'll play again. That's what happened to me a bunch, not a bunch, but a few times on a standup tour.

They'll be like, oh yeah, we're selling out so well. Let's do another show. And it's like a couple of weeks ago, but I like, you know, we're just going to do the one show. That sounds like, yeah, well, you build me up. You have my head. I feel like I have a hot shot. Yeah, we've had a couple like, yeah, I remember one time we played nights at some big venue in Vancouver. First night sold. That was awesome. Second night was like,

Oh, 200 people in a 1500, 2000 cap room. Yikes. This is bad for my soul. Ooh, yikes. This is bad for my soul. Uh-uh. It is really hard to just tune that out. We just had a funny show. We were playing some small towns recently, and we were like, yeah, even if it's a really small place,

we'll just go for it. So we were playing Brattleboro, Vermont. Yeah, Stone Church. And I think we had like 40-something people, which to me is fine for us in Brattleboro, Vermont, stone church. And I was, I think we had like 40 something people, which to me is fine for us in Brattleboro, Vermont. I'm perfectly happy, but the room was a stone church. So it was a cathedral. So there's something about 40 people

and they're like into it. They're having a blast and everything. But just like when the ceiling is 200 feet tall. Yeah. Even before I was talking to the book, the house manager, I was talking to the book, the house manager, I was like, so how would you expect for, you know, crowds? And he's like, not too good. We don't we don't

really have a lot of people come out to this venue. It's a nice venue, but in the wrong city. I hate it here. I look forward to I look forward to this night. Yeah, what are the one of my favorite shows we've ever played? We play we played a couple of times in this place, Tenerife. It's like an island off the coast of Africa. It's a Spanish island. And we got we booked we booked the first time we played there.

We booked it because we're like, so the end of the tour, we're like, going to treat it like a vacation. We think they're like, yeah. Yeah, no one's gonna show up whatever and so we go there It's probably like 50 60 people show up which is crazy for us, but like playing in this tiny like this tiny punk Yeah, then you It felt awesome. We're like, Tenere fucking rules. We're coming back. And we booked, we booked Penarife again,

to our knowledge, in the same spot. We go back and when we get there, the guy who's putting on the show, he's like, oh, you sold 69 tickets this time. We're like, oh, 69, nice. And, he's like, Oh, you sold 69 tickets this time. We're like, Oh, 69. Nice. And then he's like, we're going to move you to the big room. And it was like, what happened into the other closet room? He's like, that's literally a closet now.

He brings up to the room that we're playing. It's the tennery, like main cultural center. Like 2500 people, no problem could fit in there. Oh, God. It's like the size of like Terminal five or something. I like when you walk in and we're like, how many tickets do we sell? He's like 69. Yeah, 6900 like 69 feels really He's like, 69. Yeah.

6,900. Like, 69 feels really good in like a closet-sized venue and terrible up here. It's like, but these people like to spread out when they watch the show. They're huge people. They're giants. Yeah, we have like, I called her a circle pit at one point

and it was like, gym class. Oh, yeah. Running around. There's a great video. And my girlfriend said, like, it's like, it's in really close. Is me crowd surfing. It's like, oh, it looks like an awesome show. And then you pull back and you're

just a cluster of people holding me up. And she keeps pulling back until I'm literally a speck in this big abyss. Oh, that's great. That's great. That was a good time. That's really funny. Damn. Mike, you should learn some stage diving tips from him.

Oh my God. Yeah, I did. I stage dived once with this group and I went right on the ground. It was awful. It was like onto the cement. It's about a year ago. We know it's like during one of your shows.

Mm hmm. Oh, yeah. So I couldn't be like, oh, I'm done. You're like, oh, I got to do the rest of the show. Ouch. I like it. It's a good dynamic to have, though. Can you continue the show? And now the whole crowd feels bad for the guy on stage worried about his health. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and like, do it again. We'll catch you. I'm like, I can't even move. continue the show and now the whole crowd feels bad for the guy on stage worried about his health.

Yeah, yeah. And like, do it again, we'll catch you. I'm like, I can't even move. Dude, it was so bad. I remember being like legit scared, seeing you like jump up over the crowd and then just fall. I was so happy that I didn't hit my head or like get really seriously hurt.

You did it right, because you like jumped and twisted backwards. Yeah. You did a great jump. It was the crowd's fault. No, actually your problem was. You did it right. Cause you like jumped and twisted backwards. Yeah. You did a great jump. It was the crowds fault. No, actually your problem was. The jump was perfect. I didn't give him a heads up that I was going.

In fact, you did a head fake like you were gonna not jump. And then you jumped. Oof. You don't want to catch him off guard. You don't want to catch me. It was funny though, cause then we just played in Rhode Island recently and then we were. Oh, you mean where I'll be July 11th?

Yes. And the venue has a, an apartment that when we had stayed there before and we were picking bedrooms, I was like, you guys want to do same rooms as before. You want to switch it up. And then Mike, you specifically were like, I don't want to go in that bedroom because I have bad, I have bad to do same rooms as before. You want to switch it up. And then Mike, you specifically were like, I don't want to go in that bedroom because I have bad, I have bad memories of having a broken back,

having just come from doing New York and being sad. Yeah, I could not get comfortable. It sucked. That is brutal. I took a train home like four hours earlier than I was going to just because I need to get out of there. Stephen, how are you guys doing bus style? Or how are you doing it these days? In North America, we're usually in a bus. Actually, our last Euro tour was also in a bus. That was cool.

We don't deserve to be in a bus. Sure you do. Hey, don't say that. Nah, it's a, yeah. So it's still like, it seems like every time we go back to Europe is like back and forth between bus or van. And weirdly in Australia, you just fly to every city.

They're far enough away. Cause the cities are like, they're all super spread out, but then they're all good cities with good shows, right? Isn't that the thing there? Yeah, and something about the airlines. You just like show up and you're like, they're like, so what do you have for luggage? We're like 30 pieces oversized. And they're like, great.

Damn, that's wild to be, you're torn with everything, huh? Well, not everything, but like, yeah, a lot of, a lot of you, like when we fly to Europe, I think we fly with like 15 or 16 big road cases. So it's really, it's pretty expensive and pretty flying. Do you guys have synths on stage at all, or is it all, is it just guitars and? Yeah, just guitars.

The closest thing we have to that is like, Zach who plays drums has a sampler pad that sometimes he plays like. Hey, we got the same thing. Yeah, we do. We got that Roland. The SPDSX speed sex. Yeah.

Yeah. You see it back there. Look at that thing. Sitting pretty. It is sitting pretty. Looking good. Yeah. Wait, what the fuck is I going to say?

Something really cool. Oh, I had something cool to say. Yeah, so you say. I found something really neat I wanted to share with you guys where I mentioned I'm a huge Pup fan and then having you come on the show today, I was listening to your band and I was like, I wonder, you know what, it's Cocktail Podcast.

I wonder if they've sung about cocktails before. So I was clicking around the Bit Torrents, you know? And I was- They're only the ones that go, the money goes to the band. Yes, large sums of money go to the band. If you notice your bank account get big today, it was because of my click. You're welcome.

But I was like, what drinking songs does Pop have? And DVP is one of my favorite songs of yours. And I went and I wanted to give that a listen. And as I was going through one of these BitTorrents of mine, I found an early demo that I hadn't heard before. Yeah, that used to happen a lot back in the file sharing days, would be just weird versions of stuff. Yeah, yeah, BitTor days for sure.

That's still going on, it's just healthy. The days of BitTor thing is still happening. I'm keeping them alive. But I actually thought that this was interesting because I was like, huh, the lyrics have changed a little bit in the song, you know, from the album version that I know. And I was like, well, we have Stefan here, maybe. Well, I brought the MP3 in. this song from the album version that I know.

I was like, well, we have Stefan here. I brought the MP3 in because I thought it applied in a weird way if you listen close to lyrics. I felt like your original lyrics, Stefan, it kind of was relevant to today's episode. So I thought maybe we'd play it in this early demo and take a listen. Interesting, okay. That's awesome. Here we go. ["Tobacco E"] Your sister made me a clam drink. She used horseradish sauce and salt from celery and it was Tobacco E.

Yeah, that was Toshiren, it was tangy and I said, ow, ow, ow, ow. Three cups and my heart's burned up. I said, hit re-heat flux. Ow, ow, ow, ow. She says that I need some Tums or I'll fuck up my epiglottis. She says I need Bratislack. I, for the one like the lyrics you landed on.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, me too. I don't know. That epiglottis lyric should have stayed. You guys don't in your songs. I can't think of you actually name checking epiglottis's too often.

So yeah. You never really say Reheflux or anything like that. Why the change, Stefan? What happened where you want to... Yeah, Stefan, explain yourself. Explain yourself. Or I understand if you want to be the songwriter, you want to talk about the lyrics, that's fine. Yeah, I'm definitely that kind of songwriter

where it's all about the mystery. Sure, sure, sure. En. Yeah, enigmatic. Can't figure it out, man. That's good. And now what, now Tim, where'd you find that? Oh, that was- This was on a BitTorrent. BitTorrent, good, good, good. That was fucked up.

Yeah. That's fucked up what you did. Stay off the BitTorrents, guys. Just stick to the- Yeah, like who leaked that? We're gonna find them and hold them accountable. One of your guys leaked that. We got to talk to you.

What are your guys? Hey, here's a question. Where did the name come from, Pup? I know this. Where do you? Can I answer? It's an acronym. Yeah, I don't know the answer.

It's wasted potential. P.U. stands for wasted. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a very straight enigmatic, you know, you're an interesting writer. Yeah, I get it. People have said pathetic use of potential, but like, no. Oh, oh, oh, I see. Oh, is there one or are you just like, you like it

and you're gonna tell a different story every time? You wanna know how I got these scars? You know how we named our band. Bro, I'm enigmatic as you say. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I get it, I get it. But as you said. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I get it. I get it. Okay.

But here's what we do know. It's all caps, so it's not pup like a dog. If it was, if the U and the P were lowercase, that's a dog. And yet the merch all has dogs on it. Yes. Yeah, you guys have thought about this more than we did when we named the band. Well, yeah, we spent years coming up with the sloppy boys. It's a topic of ours that we care a lot about.

Names are so hard. I feel like if I dug up the old document of potential band names, one, it's probably a gold mine. Two, I'm sure I'd probably get canceled. Yeah. Yeah. It was at 2010. Yeah.

Done, dude. I can't even. Yeah, I'm sure. The Giants hits. How about that for a bit? Not bad. What about our record release show in Toronto was with this awesome band called Big Dick. And I was like, that's a name.

That was a good name. But hard to Google and find the band. It's tough to get Google alerts for that. There was another band when we were coming up in Toronto. They were just called Gay. And it was like, try to find that gay band. Gay band Toronto. It's like Scissor Sisters, Elton John.

Yeah, it was just like, gay sneaky Ds. You can't find it. That's, yeah, that's not. We were touring with Dear Blanca and they at one point had a band called Shows. And they said it was un, un lookable, like un, unfindable. Unmarketable, unfindable. Shows.

I like that. Yeah. But it's funny band names in general though, just how fast they like melt away. Like the first time I heard of Pup, I was like, oh, I wonder what that, but then by the second time, you're just like, that's that band. And I think when, we had a sketch group

called the Birthday Boys, and we were paired up, we did a monthly show at the Upright System Theater with a group called A Kiss From Daddy. And that's such a, the first time you hear it, it's such a pronounced thing to hear. And then I said it 4000 times and I like I never think how many times I'm just like, here's a kiss from daddy guys here backstage. Like it's just nonsense.

A kiss from daddy. Nobody thinks twice about like Pearl Game, you know? Right. Yeah, right, right. That's a that's a that's Jizz, right? Isn't that a? That's Jizz. And that's Jizz. And that's, and that's the stuff, man.

You know what blew my mind when I figured out what Blink 182 Dude Ranch. So all, all music is Jizz basically. All Jizz. Oh, ranch. It's all Jizz. Oh, fuck. Oh. Oh, fuck. Oh, OK. OK. That's nasty. That is nasty. Well, same with a Metallica load.

Yeah, that album. That's just the album, though. It's not a big. You know that there's that Beatles album that was called like Globs of Sea. I thought you were just going to say the White Album. I was going to. And then I said something else. Oh, that's good. That's good. You took us one way and then was zing bang. Yeah. Look forward to that type of humor on Digman.

Come to Comedy Central July 9th. Oh, very nice. Can we get back on track with the drink for one moment, please? Yes. What would you change about the drink for one moment, please? Yes. What would you change about the drink for round two? Do you make any shit? I mean, it's pretty good. I sucked it right down. I know. I don't know what I would do this thing.

Next time I make it, I'm just going to kind of go free hand. No, I'm not going to do the measurements. That's doing it. Stefan's style. Yeah, that's Pops. That's Stefan's style. Yeah. that's Pup style. That's Stefan style. Yeah. Are you going to do any tweaks? I do have Worcestershire, so I am going to do that and do a little less horseradish.

I'm going to do a horseradish. Oh my god. To the max. I also feel like this shit is not picante. Oh. You need the Tabasco. I think this shit is not the Conte. You need the Tabasco. Yeah, I thought that it was delicious, but I think that the spicy label was misleading. Yeah, but I don't have anything.

Mislabeled like a track from Napster or a BitTorrent MP3. One of Tim's BitTorrents. They're shooting, we shouldn't force them. If they're going to throw around the word picante on the bottle, there should be like a certain number of, number of Scoville units or whatever that they have to hit. Yeah. I wasn't feeling it. So that's one of the reasons that I'm going to up the-

Horse radish. Okay, cool. Mike, anything? Yeah. I'm just going to do it by- Oh yeah, your eye bones. Just dash. Sorry, Tim, you doing anything? Yeah, I'm going going to do it by your eye. Your eye. Sorry, Tim, you doing anything? Yeah, I'm going to do something gross. Check it out. I got a bottle of clam juice. Tim, I wish you didn't show me that.

Don't show me that. What do you do with that other than this type of thing? Well, what does anyone have that for? Snows clam juice. That's the only brand I've ever heard that deal that treads in clam juice. I guess a clam soup. I didn't even know that clam juice existed without the motto. I had scientists extract the motto.

Is that coming out of the sloppy boys LLC fund? This is more of my personal bank account. This was like in the section where there was like, you know, tuna fish cans. And then I found this and I was like, I'm going to make it. I'm going to clam it to the. So you're in the isle of that, which comes from the sea. And I'm clam maxing.

Okay. All right, folks. Can we, can I just ask you if you could just crack that open and take a tiny little sip? You're talking to the right guy. So here, okay, bad sign, cracking it open didn't happen, it just silently.

Oh, Tim. Silently unscrewed and there was no pop on the, and it is the top like that should have. Oh, it's supposed to pop. You can tell. Does it smell rotten? It could have gone bad. It's not, honestly, it smells like a Marina

and I have pleasant memories. Marina Del Rey? Yeah, it's one thing Marina Del Rey and then the sip. That's tough to take because I'll tell you, the flavor that is there is like a decent clam chowder, but it's just like a bottle of water. So like swallowing the sip is just a bit, it was very watery. Tim, I've never seen like Ivy, I've seen you eat lamb kidneys and follow it up with like a milkshake grasshopper drink.

You still didn't take a beat andhake, eat grasshopper drink. You still didn't take a beat and say, that's tough to take. Even just the turning of the head was more I've seen Tim ever block it up food. I'll tell you why. I thought it was going to be like really strong and salty, but it's almost words that it's like muted. So I had like, it was like a gulp of water and then, you know?

Gross. And it's probably warm too, or was like a gulp of water and then, you know? Gross. And it's probably warm too or was it in the fridge? Nice, crisp cold. Nice. That goes down. Well, that's disgusting. Yeah, well, that's gross. Folks.

I finished it. Oh. All right, folks. We're going to make round two. We'll be back with more Sloppy Boys after this. Oh boy, I wanna go puke. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I actually put some pickle juice in mine this time. Oh, wow. That's good. You're a brine freak. Yeah, I'm a brine freak. You know, sometimes you see on those pre mixed cans

and we're talking about Canada like extreme pickle. It's like that's aggressive. Extreme Brian. I want to see what it's all about. That sounds great. Next time I'm in Canada, I'm tracking down some cans of Caesar. Yeah, my That sounds great. Next time I'm in Canada, I'm tracking down some cans of Caesar. My my personal recommendation is

yet the one that says the works yellow cam. Oh, the works is like the only ones I see down here are like probably the MOTS one. Right. It's like MOTS Clamado. I don't think I've ever seen anything other than the, the I wish I had with the one I got today. It's like, just like the blue bottle. Yeah. Yeah. But Stefan, you're saying that the works has vodka in it.

Oh, all of these have vodka in it. Amazing. Wow. Except for the one that I was telling you about before that is like the gin one. And it's like like go to jail. But yeah, yellow. I got one called spicy green bean. Don't bother. OK. Damn. Don't bother with the spicy green bean.

Well, I listening to Tim taste that clam juice and talk about it, and then go into my sink and seeing like the gross remnants of clam juice and horseradish made me sick. So I went and made myself a grape ape. A sippable grape ape. What's that? Now the way I made it, I forget the real things,

but it's grape soda, vodka, and lime. And you'd usually do it with like three straws, and you'd drink it like in a shot. But I did it just sippable here. Mike, that is like a liter of grape soda. I know, because I had this grape. It's so flat because it's from when we did the. Oh, no. I was like, I haven't touched this two liter of Welch's in a long time.

Hmm. Still good. Well, Michael, let's do our final thoughts. What do you what do you? Well, it's the Clomado for me. Yes. I thought you were going to ask me. No, no, go for it. You kick us off. It's a Clomado Clomado Clomado for me. I don't like it. I will., go for it. You kick us off. I'm like. It's a Clemato, Clemato, Clemato for me.

I don't like it. I will, I like the stuff in this one though. So I will do the same thing with tomato juice. Hell yeah. Cause I like the pickle. I like the celery salt. That's a bloody Mary Michael. I know, but I'm gonna,

I'm gonna do that with these specifications though. I just want to know what it is about the Clemato cause it doesn't taste fishy, right? Like what? It's the idea of it. It was also more of Tim drinking that stuff right there. I don't dislike these, but I've always just would rather have the tomato juice over the clam juice.

Yeah, but it's hard to blame the drink. Like you could drink any cocktail. If I'm sitting next to you drinking a bottle of clam juice, it's going to ruin the experience. If I throw me a little bit Yeah, I mean if this was the great babe episode and he was drinking clam juice I probably wouldn't make another great babe. You know what I mean? Yeah Would ever consider great babe with clam juice would not like a red ape. Grape plus clam. Clam a light red ape.

Um, Stefan, how do you normally for final thoughts, we say like, would you order it again, which is a pretty mild recommendation? Um, would you, would you order it again? Yes. However, I wouldn't, however, I wouldn't. I don't think it's worth the effort. Making it. Oh, you're saying these these cans, cans, because the cans are as good, if not better. You still got to do the rim yourself and stuff.

The accoutrements. But like. This was an involved process, you know? Yeah. Took a long time. Yeah. So yeah, I would stick to the cans in the future, but since they don't have that in America,

if I'm going to be here half the time. You're going to go buy Clamado. I can't live without my Caesar. Just batch a bunch of it. I have it on a tap. It would be funny if you were like, if someone was like, you know, like a really bad drinker and instead of like, you know, hiding a bottle of whiskey in their desk or something, if it was just all day cans of Caesar, there's somebody doing it. I get those those 55 million people statistically are drunk on Caesar's right now.

Tim, your final thoughts provide them. Okay, well, don't add two ounces of that clam juice. It didn't work. Two ounces. I tried to really clam this up, but what I have here is just, you know, like Manhattan clam chowder. And it's like, that's not good, but I love it. I did the one, I had a Joe beef in Montreal.

I had one made from scratch where the guy was shucking and everything, and that was amazing. And it was very clammy, but still good. I saw him squeezing a clam like straight through the shelf. Wait, can you, can you explain it a little bit? Like you saying he's like blending up clans to make a Caesar. I was like eating by myself at the bar by myself. And then the guy was like, what would you like to drink? I was like,

can I have something really Canadian? And I had never even heard of a Caesar. And he was like, if you're gonna have Caesar, I said no, so I'll have that. And he shucked raw clams. It's clam juice, but you're alone, so it's okay. But you're a weird guy, right? Oh yeah. He dripped, so it was like tomato juice,

vodka, squeezed lemon, Worcestershire, all of it, like one by one. And then he took some raw clams and shucked them and like dripped brine the way that there's brine in there. That it was fucking fantastic. Hmm. That is, now that I like. Yep. If the ingredients are fresh.

Yeah. This is great. I love it. Yeah, this is great. I love it. I would order it again. I kind of do want to see if I could push it to three or four. Not today. If you drink through for these are. Yeah. If there was ever a day where people are like, we're doing Caesars. I'd be like, OK, Caesar Day.

I'll do four. But no one's going to say that because it's just such an odd. It's also super hot here. It's not clam in the hot. It's not good. You too fixated on the clam part, Michael. I know, I know. It's gonna be my ultimate downfall.

Here's the thing though. I love this drink. I'm definitely ordering again, but I'm also thinking like, I might like it more than a Bloody Mary. Me too. A good Bloody Mary is good, but a bad Bloody Mary is such a bummer and such a such a slog to get through. I feel like it's safer to order a Caesar. And I would, if I was going to be like Jeff and try to have four of four of these, I can't have four Bloody Marys, but I maybe could have four of these. But don't you think that these, like the Caesar here,

if it got more popular, it would just turn into a Bloody Mary, like where you just put whatever into it. Like if I go to a bar, their Caesar isn't necessarily gonna be all this stuff, right? Yes, but why like at a gastropub especially, they're like, the Bloody Marys these days are like

ketchup-y and thick and like dark. I'm like, what's going on over there, man? I don't know. I feel like I've never had a bad Caesar, but I've had bad Bloody Mary. I think you can have a bad Caesar unless you put like the extra cup of clam juice or whatever. Common mistake people make, yes.

Well, it's like a Caesar is just people don't go crazy with them like like Bloody Mary. So there is only kind of one Caesar you're going to get. For now, for now. That's what I think. That's what I think. Spoken like a true American. Damn right it is. Oh shit. What was it going to say? Something good. So yeah, right. It was going to be, it was going to be dumb and you know it. Mm.

I think those canned Caesars are going to be coming to the States because the tinned fishes and stuff has gotten so big. I could see the tinned fishy drinks coming next. Oh, yeah. Sound reasoning. That's our show. Follow us on social media at the Sloppy Boys,

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Yeah, I'm gonna see him in the flesh. I'm gonna go that but that Paramount show in Bk. Yeah, I'm gonna do palladium. I'm doing palladium, baby. Oh, yeah., let me know. Not the listener to you guys. Let me know. Sorry, folks. Listeners, shut your mouths about whether or not you're going. If you're going, shut the fuck up. Daddy needs some money. Somebody's getting a phone.

That's your accountant being like, you're not giving away free tickets, are you? We are fucked! Ooh, uh, uh, Stefan, are you a Leafs fan? Maple Leafs fan? Yeah, unfortunately, I'm a huge Leafs fan and it's horrible. What, uh, just as your sign off here, what do you think are the moving pieces, what pieces do you have to leave and what do we need? Are you a hockey guy? I'm a hockey fan. Yeah, puck into net That's what we got. You need a hat trick. I hit yeah, I think they got a whip

Blow that shit up cuz they I'm sick of it. You think Marner's gonna leave? Oh 100% you think Austin's gonna leave awesome Matthews if he's back. I'm throwing my jersey on the ice No, I don't think awesome Matthews? If he's back, I'm throwing my jersey on the ice. No, I don't think Austin Matthews is gonna leave. Is he the captain now? He's the captain. Yeah. Yeah. This is gonna, I'm hoping for some big changes because this is embarrassing to be like this man. It's been embarrassing for, I don't know, 60 years? You were born embarrassed? Well, I think, I think it could happen. You're like, Oh God, where am I?

Toronto? No! Doc, put me back in! Well, good episode guys, and good episode to those of you listening at home. Really good job today, this week. And hey, come see us live, folks. You know the dates. You heard them at the top of the show.

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