The Sloppy Boys - 270. Trinidad Sour Christmas Special 5

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

The guys restore a lost tradition wherein they make the first cocktail that truly knocked their socks off (stockings off).TRINIDAD SOUR RECIPE:1.5oz/45ml ANGOSTURA BITTERS1oz/30ml ORGEAT SYRUP .76oz/22.5ml LEMON JUICE .5oz/15ml RYE WHISKEYPour all ingredients into cocktail shaker filled with ice.Shake well and strain into chilled cocktail glass. Recipes via the International Bartenders Association | www.iba-world.comWANT MORE SLOP? Check out:PatreonSHOP the webstore at:The Sloppy Boys WebsiteLISTEN to The Sloppy Boys hit songs on:Apple MusicSpotifyYoutubeTOUR DATES, SOCIALS and more at:LinktreeT H E   S L O P P Y   B O Y S   L L CExpand Ascend Conquer Retain Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, everybody. This is Tim Calpacchus from the Sloppy Boys podcast. I just wanted to let you know something, which is that Boston, we are going to be doing a huge show on December 28th. We're doing the lineup live with Mike Mitchell at the Crystal Ballroom in Somerville. That's right. We're going to be chugging a pint of Guinness, a Jaeger shot, a Jaeger bomb, a Bud Light. We did it once on the show.

Now we're doing it live. Mitch from Dole Boys. This is going to be wild night. You got to come out, folks. And, hey, while I have your attention, I just want you to know that New York City, the Sloppy Boys band is playing a huge show December 30th at the Mercury Lounge in Manhattan.

This is going to be a long musical event of the year. Get dressed up. Come have a big bash with us the night before New Year's Eve. And that will be it for all Sloppy Boys lives. performances in 2025. Thank you so much to everyone who came out to all of these shows because it really meant a lot to us. up the drinks that you love. Secular slide.

I'm Jeff Dutton along with Michael Hanford. Hello. The curious elf, Michael Hanford. Hello. Hello. And the wise elf, Tim Kalpakis. What is up? Secular slide stylies.

We should have made some secular sliders for this. Yeah, like, because most, you know, you have little cheeseburgers and they're very Catholic. by a priest. There's a host on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Host with the most. Hey, we're sort of the host with the most. Back from the road off of like a string

of three hot shows with Antarctica Vespucci and Gupy. Really? Fun, fun, fun, fun, Southern California mini tour. Beautiful. Yeah, it was the best. Folks, if you don't know Antarctica Vespucci, we're talking about Jeff Rosenstock and Chris Farron. Punkers, man.

Teaming up for something. There's such a good band. You've got to listen. You know, there's solo stuff, so check out their duo. But we played a weekend with them, a SoCal run of shows that fucking... San Diego, L.A. and Fullerton. It was so them. It was three shows, three distinct vibes. Yeah.

Totally, totally different vibes. What more do you want? And also taking us out of our comfort zone. Oh, the sloppy boys are growing. It was great. We had just come off of a big, you know, month-long tour. playing big, long, two-hour sets. And it was kind of nice to get back down to basics

and kind of trim away some songs. How do we really represent ourselves in 40 minutes to a brand new crowd? And boy, thanks for the audience for coming out and saying hi after the show. We got some converts. Yeah, it's a lot of fresh ears too. Yeah.

Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, very, very rewarding to have some people come up to the merch table and say, I didn't know who you guys were, and I had a good time. Especially, Rosenstock has a very young fan base. Lots of teenagers, you know. I didn't know who you guys were, but I pledged my allegiance.

And I will go down with the ship and I will die for you. And they were doing a cool thing, too, where they'd meet us at the merch table and be like, here, okay, so here's 30 bucks. Like, yeah, what size T-shirt do you want? They're like, no, no, this is just for you. Wow. I was like, whoa, so this is what this whole fan base is about. That's what they do. Giving away money.

Good, good, good. Friday, Saturday, Sunday we went from a straight-edge sober, vegan DIY teen center. Like a co-op-y type thing, yeah. To a big music venue,

very professional, big music venue, to a skate shop in a strip mall. The skate shop in the strip mall was the most cally thing we've ever done before. Yeah, it was cool.

The lights were on. It felt to me kind of like a tiny desk concert. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. The lights were on the whole time. Lights up.

That's what I was making eye contact with people. I thought maybe they turned, like I knew they weren't going to be like spotlights and stuff. I thought maybe they'd turn half the venue. Yeah, at some point. But I learned a lesson for me, which is, uh, at first I started playing and I was like, this is fun. It's intimate. All these, you know, like a hundred kids right in front of me. And I was like, this is an intimate space. So I'm going to make some eye contact. So I'm kind of looking

around. And then suddenly I start forgetting the lyrics because every time I make eye contact with a person, you're sucked into their soul, you know? Yeah. And then I'm having a relationship with some 15 year old dude. Plotonic. But, but then I, uh, like, but then I, uh, like, Like, I'm forgetting my lyrics because I'm thinking about like, this kid has school tomorrow. You're drawn into their world. Yeah, one guy, he had a camera up front, taking like old, you know, just film. Yeah, send us those picks if you're listening. Send us those picks, dude.

And then I also noticed like any other skate shop, they had skate videos on in the store. And it's like being at a bar where your eyes just drift to the TV. Yeah. So like, I stared at the whole time. I'm performing. And I'm still looking up because I'm seeing guys eat shit on staircases. Me too. I stopped the song at one point.

was like, look at that. That's going to hurt. But you know what? Skate video, I am not a skater, but skate videos are like a, like a looking at a bonfire or something. Like I could just look at it. Like, I could just watch somebody skate forever and you're just like, oh, he didn't make that.

Oh, he heard himself. Oh, he got it. You know, it's like very rewarding. It's very primal in that way. There's something about skate videos too where like you can be very technical with tricks and stuff. But if I'm watching, I can't like see that stuff quick enough. Like if the board flips and they flip it back.

I'm just like, well, I'm not sure what they actually did there, but they did it over a huge gap, and that's pretty cool. And the board gets blurry. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You know how in hockey they did the highlight on the puck to try and bring in viewers who were like, I can't see what's going on? They brought in that little lightsaber streak on the puck.

They should do something like that for skateboarding. It slows down. It goes, boom. See, like, what did that board do? Because you see somebody great, they kick their feet in the board goes, it just flickers in the air. And then they land on it. You're like, well, I guess that was cool. but I don't know if that was a 7-20 or a ficky fucking backside manual.

I need to be an expert skateboarder just to watch expert skateboarders. I don't think so. That's basically what's expected of you these days. I know. But hey, I got to say, skate shops sounded better than I thought. Yeah. Because we went in there and we've played our share of like the PA is just for the mics. You know, we're making the drums.

We got guitar and bass amps. We're not micing. There's no sound guy. It's just us and microphones that have speakers, but no, none of our shit's plugged into anything. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We started to theorize, maybe it was Guppy you kicked this off. I did.

That there were like indie baffling on the walls, like sound baffling because of all the t-shirts and the decks and skateboards on the wall. 360 everywhere. There were no like flat walls. Right, right, right. Sounded fantastic. It was basically Abbey Road. Abby Road was a big room like that, but it had some perforation on the wall. And a few skateboarders.

Yeah, that's true Surely a few skateboards I want to do a half-pipe trick after this, Paul Oh, God Well, folks, you can tell by the crackling fire That this isn't a normal episode, isn't it? This is a nice Reflective

Yeah, holiday It's a holiday episode And the hosts are all here tonight For you And we have much to be reflective upon And we'll get drunk a little bit too. Take that off book.

Yeah, we pretty much are a few more lyrics away from doing a full off book show. So, folks, you'll notice because of the crackling and the rhyming, just the cheer. I wonder if we're going to hear Santa's ho-ho-ho at the end of the episode. Maybe. If we're good. If we're good hosts.

It's the annual Trinidad's sour Christmas special. Yes. It is. Now, when I say annual, We skipped two years. We forgot. Yeah, it's somewhat, somewhat annual, semi-annual. Year one, we did it.

Year two, we brought it back. Three and four. Didn't. And this is five? I think this is five. And then also, well, it's tradition to forget because for Thanksgiving, we said we're always going to do some sort of old-fashioned. Yeah.

And this year we did a phony-nagroney. It fits in with sort of we drink a little bit, drink he's not good for the brain. Right. Well, the story being told on this podcast, it's not the story we intended to tell, but It's really about our memory loss and the deterioration of our livers, yeah. Well, I will say, though, on the, on the booze front,

we drank a lot on our tour, our fall tour in the East Coast and the Midwest, got pretty crunk drunk every night. And then... We had no opener, so we drank enough for our band and an opening band. So it is funny. Then I think I mentioned on an episode after that.

It was so, that week back, it was so nice to, not drink like and I didn't do the thing it wasn't like Tim you got to scale it back it was like me being like please I don't want to drink your body's like rejected yeah and I had not without trying I had like

my first week back I think I had maybe like two drinks over the course of a week and it was just like oh I went out twice or whatever because you still have friends being like oh Tim's back hey Tim you back rustic right exactly what else is there to do and I like made yeah I made garlic

vodka for a party that I went to. I infused it. How was it? And do you just put garlic in it and that's how you infuse? Yeah. Have I told on pod my garlic one? I don't believe so. Okay, so I'm going over to this dinner party and they say it's garlic fest. We're having

garlic-themed stuff. Bring garlic. I say I'm going to infuse some vodka. So I get some kettle one and some garlic. That's the good stuff. So you're taking some garlic and going go bloop? Yeah, I'm going go bloop. But now notice you said bulb

and then the the recipe said clove I didn't know the difference between a bulb and a clove so I I brought put in about 12 times

the amount of garlic that was supposed to be in this so what it was meant to be a little bit of a after breath instead was like a stunt shot like oh I don't like that

how long did you leave it in there to infuse like a week 24 hours but it was it was a burning Stee, it was delicious, but it felt like, you know, when you, you ever do a face melter?

No. It's like a, like cayenne and ginger. It's like a health shop. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was basically that, but the garlic vodka version. So, like, you pop the cork on that thing. Foop. The boom.

And the room clears, I bet. Yeah. Or at least of any vampires. Yeah, sure. There were a few. Was this sort of a Christmas thing? Uh, no. Okay.

So maybe we were vampires. It was a pretty thing. But I think the premise was like, hey, we're all going to have bad breath and stink it's a garlic themed dinner party you know i had heard about this party somebody made uh garlic ice cream yes but forgot to serve it so i never got to try that i forgot to serve it oh boy yeah sad that sounds crazy though yeah i was excited about that i didn't ultimately go unfortunately i forget why but um forgot but uh i talked to the host and i was like man yeah that looks awesome how long you've been doing that first year yeah oh for over this party yeah the garlic party yeah

I thought it was like garlic fest. Everybody get in here. I was like, I saw one of the hosts. I don't know what were keeping a guy. Nick and Claire. I don't know. I don't know. Well, I'll say this.

I recently was on the doughboys double. Yeah. And I was, I left out some names of some events I went to. Then Mitch said the names and then I felt bad that the names were out there. So I'm just in a zone where I'm self-conscious about saying names. Yeah. I don't know if people want to be talked about.

Yeah. But some people do. Maybe Nick and Claire. want to be talked about. Maybe Dan Padley wants his asshole to be talked about. Well, that's okay. That's interesting. That's interesting. That's fucking interesting. We're talking, folks, this

week on the blowout, we talked about the big Lubowski. We revisited the Lobowski movie. It's to a wonderful end. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Wait a second. Wait a second. We were talking about garlic, were we? Yeah, well, you think about that. I have something to say.

Please. Well, it's the holidays. You know, you take tend to take stock and say what you're thankful for it. That's mainly Thanksgiving but Christmas you can too. Yeah. Well, you could... New Year's too. Yes. Take talk. Look back. Well, I just want to say one cool thing about for me, these recent Antarago Vespucci,

I'm playing a Reverend guitar. Oh, yeah. Cross-cut guitar. I'm talking, these pickups are rail hammer, clean cuts. Hum gutters. Youch, I sound like fucking fantastic on that. And I'm playing a Reverend

bass, and it also has specifics too. This is crazy. Guys, I can't believe it. I am also playing a Reverend guitar here in my apartment. Now, and when you... After you play a Reverend guitar, you ever wash it down with a sip of Badger Babs?

Hey, reach for the Badger. Before it reaches for you. Oh, I'll say this about, this is what I was going to say about the show we did in Fullerton in the skate shop. So it was a type of playing thing where we weren't on a stage and there wasn't any

rise to the audience, so it was just flattened. If you were in the back, you couldn't see anything. We met some people at the merch table at the end of the night. Do you remember this? And this girl was like, hey, I never heard you guys before. And when I got here, I couldn't see you. So just listening to it, I was picturing the Muppet band.

Oh, yeah. That's about right. I welcome that. Me too. I'm curious what song it was. Yeah, I don't know. It's funny when we played East Coast Wedding, when we, like, That's some real muppage. Rehearsing it.

It's the theme song to this very pod. Bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch. Yeah. Folks, you might not know if you just love the pod and you don't love the band, if you're, you know, sick in the head. Yeah, maybe you're twisted. Maybe, you're completely lost it. That song is our, off our second album called East Coast Wedding,

and it's got a nice bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch. We should do a special episode where people don't expect it, but the episode of this podcast starts plays the interest. and then they think that you're about to say, hey folks, welcome to the show, but instead it goes, I went to an East Coast wedding, and they're like, what lyrics? And then we play the whole four-minute fucker. That's not a bad idea. Let's do that next episode. Yeah. Yeah. Fun. Well, Mike, I love this crackling fireplace. I feel bad I jumped on you before we recorded. I didn't jump on you. I was just dismissive of this idea of like, you've brought this up several times and I just don't do it. He wants music bed whole hour. Yeah. Whole hour, music bit. Something like that.

No, it's weird. It's not weird. I like having it in the home stretch. Well, it's like a thing we don't do all the time. I'm not saying it for every episode before like. Whatever like if. But all the time for the hour. Right, right.

But it would be like a special one like this with this crackling fire. But do you ever like whenever, sometimes we're doing the introducing the drink of the day and we play some kind of music to set the moon? Yeah, that's fun. I always love that. I'm never like sick of the music. Yes, but you love it because it's special. here's what I'm saying it would be special for the whole hour and every week

Tim I say today we try it great and if it's knowing everyone DM us but first we get it that we get this is shit chat we get a wrap up shit chat yeah but we don't do that but yes yes

now it's time for booze news now it's time for booze news bib bib bib bib bib bib pip pip Bip Bip Bip Bibh Booze News hit it Brees news No, there was a tangent I was going to go on You were going to go on a tangent about Martini and a steak

We were talking about Big and a steak Oh a half pound rabbi that was sliced or a thin But I didn't count it because I didn't want to I wanted to be true to my boys Did a little touch of echo I can't tell what this parody's going to do that 25 ribbyes I got 10 more still

Trying to eat up that great big meal and hold I reached my steak destination Drink a martini because I knew it would Cut through that steak with a great big shim on then any other cocktail so I drink sometimes I've been a flat bed just to get some seas

and clear my head after reading something peculiar I love keeping so I finish up my drink or another rip I mark it down in my book because I'm a real book guy

and I scream from top of my love What is up? And I said, What is up? Bibbibbib bibbibbib. Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip Bip. What is up was sent to us by way of the headband. Oh yes, yes.

Our friends from our friends from. Portland, Maine. If you have a booze news team, email it to the Sloppy Boys podcast at gmail.com. That completes their booze news trilogy. They did one for each of us. For Hanford, they did the keto shuffle. Jeff, they did virtual dut sanity. Right.

And then this was for me. Those guys, if you live up in Maine, go check out a way of the headband. Yeah, we played with them in Maine and. Ports Smith, Hampshire. That's right. Damn. So, Tim, that makes me wonder, though, you wanted to have how many rubies this year? Well, this is up for debate.

I think the song said 25 ribbyes and I, 10 more still. Yeah, like 35. So 35. What Mike has been saying 36. Yeah, I've been saying 36. I thought that was the... What did you think it was? Like 30 or something.

I don't know. My brother swears it was 37. That's too. That's odd. I think it's 30. But I feel like I probably accidentally said 36 a few times or something. But like I think that 36 is too clean because it's just three a month. Yeah.

I feel like I feel like I feel like I probably accidentally said 36 a few times or something. Yeah. like I've 30 is the number that rings true in my heart what what are you up to so in this very moment is it's funny because the year's ending and I said no I said like it's the weather gets colder that's ribby season you have lunch and dinner I've been sitting at 26 for a long time so but there's only four more stakes but that's a lot you could close the gap you could close the gap for sure but well by new year there's also I forget who it was but somebody in the in the Instagram comments had a really good idea, which was

the number, however many ribby's tim has left to eat, he should eat him on stage at their last show of the year. So that would be at the Mercury Lounge in Manhattan on December 30th. I'll probably eat a couple more, but if that's my last one, that would be great. Yeah, that's the, we should, Jeff and I can just play a song, like, just you don't play on a song or something.

I'm sitting at a little table with a white table coffee. Yeah, yeah. Like a napkin tucked into my. I mean, there's, I don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a place in New York, they had this chain that was like Tad steaks. It was like cheap, cheap. It was like a cafeteria where you could get like an $8 back in the day.

Yeah, yeah. So now it's probably like a $18 stick. But that would be pretty funny if I ate a shitty rib on. You've got to do it, man. Yeah. December 30th? December 30th. At the Mercury Lab where we're playing?

Wow. Tickets online now. Also, come see us on in Boston. December 28th, Mike Mitchell's joining us because we're doing the lineup live at the crystal ballroom in Somerville. Wow.

Hey, and, you know, I got to start talking about this. If you live in Toronto, folks, on February 28th, Mike Hanford, me, will be up there shooting my stand-up comedy special. Oh my God.

I'm putting a special together. We're going to put it out, but that's when shooting. So get tickets. Get up there. That's cool. Dude, that's fucking safe. It's going to be great.

Also, like, what took you so long? The hand for an hour long. Honing the material. Honing. Honing material, but also I was like, oh, I got to do. I didn't think I would shoot a special. But then, so then when it was coming in. It's great.

The people want it. I want it. Oh, I got to figure that out. You got to commit that thing to wax. We committed to memory first. Sure. Then to the lax. Then to the wax.

And the wax. Waxahatchy. So what's the actual booze news? Oh. I think it's about wax of hatchie. Yeah. Uh, no, booze news, this is just a, uh, sort of a quick, big, bip, but it comes from my life. Um, uh, I love it when I, doesn't the best news come from your life?

Stop. Okay. Remember years ago I was, I was, uh, I was on, uh, I was in Princeton, New Jersey and I was walking around and I was near the campus and I saw some college kids and they were like, we're going to a board party. And I was like, oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. They do exist. Mm-hmm. They do exist. That was very rewarding to exist. I had an. experience recently where I'm walking in beautiful Los Filles, California. Looking nice. Putting my stilettos on going for a walk down on. On the marble floor of Los Felas.

I says to myself, Tim, I'm going to a cap and cork liquors, a specialty liquor store that we love. I was going to buy something for, who knows, maybe I was even buying the very vodka that I put garlic in. Hey. I go there a lot. Let's say that. It feels like it's within the universe.

Yeah, yeah. let's let's say that yeah let's commit that to wax um okay so so now uh watch uh picture me walking down the street and then almost just out of a movie who blows past me but three gen z kids central casting early 20s broccoli haircuts broccoli hair cut two two guys and a girl uh but like had no pizza broccoli but but uh and a fur restaurant the look was uh uh uh uh uh Small shirts, big jeans, kind of, you know, like tube leg jeans, big tubes. The 90s look. Yeah.

So I clocked them even just the way, because I walk slow. We all know I walk slow. What's the rush? What's the rush? They blew past me in a way that almost just like looked like it was like blocked out for a movie scene. And I clocked them. I go, that's funny just how they like. The latest little booos are out.

Move. Because it reminded me of the time. Remember I told you guys that three Gen Z dudes one time. walked past me and they were doing the, the, uh, what? Is this the one where they commented on your shoes or something? Yes, they were all doing the loafers and white socks, black loafers, white socks looked. And then they looked at me with, it was 8.30 a.m. I'm walking to Starbucks. I had, I had, uh, uh, boat shoes and no socks on. And one of them said, no socks today,

huh? And it was funny because I was like, I, it frustrated me because I was like, I might be older, but like, I'm cooler than them. They were dorks and they weren't pulling off their look. but you know when you're young and you're like I'm doing the look I'm doing the look I feel cool it was like three guys with the same shoes and they saw someone that didn't have the same shoes they're like let's clown on the old guy that's really funny anyway so now anytime

a trio of Gen Zers blow past me I notice so I'm walking past them and then here's what's great I noticed them duck into cabin cork so I'm like oh they're going to the same place as me this is an opportunity trying out their fake ID Michael Hanford Buzz balls

Wow They I followed them I creeped I had a newspaper And I poked holes in And I watched them And I was like what a thing

I could get And they looked through Also they're goofing around Joking Also that was the other thing They were like Being loud and joking But like

They weren't Extroverts Like they were sort of like Putting it on You know Like trying to be cool For each other And they went to the buzz balls

I do that for the show Yeah Afterwards you're like Oh I can't keep up With these two They were so excited to find the buzz balls.

They picked out a bunch of different flavors. They went and they bought buzz balls. And I was like, it's true. It's real. Geez, I didn't mean to step on the story. That's funny that it was like the most obvious thing, like Gen Z would. I did almost get some buzz balls for today because Tim, you also told me about a buzzball holiday thing. Yeah, I have a hot potato thing you do with a buzz ball.

Oh, yeah, yeah, with the big one, hot potato. Did that come up on this show? It was on booze news last week. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, yeah. I also have currently in my fridge and I just have forgotten to drink. I have two, like, holiday Nog buzz balls. Ooh.

But, yeah, we had read an article in Boo's News that was about how, like, the younger generation in the UK was big into them. So now it's spread across the whole. Oh, that was the normals. The Normals? Normans. Normans.

The Normans were into natural wines. Ah, yes. And dirty marks. That's funny about the buzz. But I got to say that's my fate of the whole podcast. of all everything. My favorite thing about it is just knowing what type of person drinks,

what type of drink. I don't know why that's so interesting to me. But when I'm at a bar or like when I went to that garlic party, I like, oh, that guy's, he reached past the shelters and had a medello. Okay, I wonder if you've seen one battle after another.

It makes it real. Yeah. Because if you see a list on a menu of a bunch of names of drinks printed on paper, that doesn't mean anything to me. I want to see the type of guy who gets that sort of drink. I'll say, I'll say, find any of these drinks you've made in the restaurant and whoever's

drinking them. Bring them to me and I want them to see them holding the drink and say, okay. You can almost look around the bar and try and guess. What did that person get? What did that person get? Like there's another bar game that we played once where you go to a bar. We were up in the valley, like deep valley, not our normal stomping ground. And it had like a touch tunes. Oh, you told me about this. And so somebody goes up and they look at the top 10 songs for that. bar and then you come back to the group and it's like you kind of play hot or cold and see who you're appraising the people so you look around like who what's the demo for this bar is it a dive or like are these young people coming to hook up and playing like new songs or

i didn't know touch tune that's cool that it like keeps the top 10 so you can kind of be like i don't want to put on like a beastie boys if this is an outcast bar yeah i'll get tossed no that's a very fun game talking about the the kids on the street making funnier. I was with a girlfriend once walking around. Yeah, it was a little walking date for that. But we were walking around your Echo Park Lake. And we're walking by these teens with like skateboards and just looked like like, again, central casting, punk teens.

By the way, funny to see teens on skateboards now that look exactly like teens on skateboards from when we were kids. Like, I was on. I know you. I was on Hillhurst or Vermont and one of them like swished past me and it felt like time travel because they were like they had the same pants that we had

when we were kids and like you wear the same pants as my bully but anyway we're walking by and we may have been holding hands we were a couple for a long time so we're holding hands and as we're walking by the teens

one of them goes go into the chapel and I was like ah you fucking got me and you got me good my man damn that's rough and then did you have to have the conversation after like that's rough yeah i was like i'm not marrying that kid i'm gonna marry you baby that's too young that's why i bought this ring after all i don't even know his first or last name um that's the worst i i've i've had like

uh you know anytime you don't say that kid was being a dick but i've seen people that don't know they're being dicks and just will ask a couple like when are you gonna tie the knot and it's like how that is that is a dare you and that's a fucking And I'll do that and stand up every once in my like, hey, hey, you guys dating? Okay. Let me ruin the car ride here. Hey, what are you going to ask? Oh, that's funny.

I've done that like once. I don't make it a habit, folks. Come out to the shows. They're great. So that, but the thing of somebody walking by saying something to kind of razz you. Yeah, yeah. Here's one from when I was five years old that still sticks with me. I can, it can piss me off as I tell the story right now.

I'm up at the Shokan Reservoir in Shokan, New York. Oh, yeah. We're riding, me and my family go up, but we're riding bikes. You know, it's a place where you can, like, ride a bike, look at the water, and it's like a park. I'm riding my bike with training wheels on. Another kid, Sean Annabelle, same age as me. I don't know him yet. I'm about to meet him in school soon.

Oh, shit. He blows past me with no training wheels on, and he goes, baby, baby. he can call the baby as a little kid yeah that motherfucker and here's a weird thing about this is like it works too on me as like a nag because then when I what so maybe this is actually before school maybe I'm like four I don't know but then I get to school and he's in my class and I thought he was cool and I wanted to be his friend and then we were friends but I think by him dunking on me I was like yeah I gave him like status like he's a fucking badass I should be part of his I am.

He rides unassisted. Yeah. I want to be calling other people babies with him. Yeah. One time... Baby, baby, baby. One time in the Ithaca semester when we were all out here interning.

I forget who it was. Was it one of you guys? Sean Annabelle, maybe? No, I don't know if it was Sean Annabelle on this one. They went somewhere, and it was a car full of like four or five dudes, and then somebody comes up to the car and says, hey, I guess the girls are in the other car, huh?

It was Jay Leno. How? Jay. Didn't he like getting a big car accident this past year? He set his face on fire. And then he also had an accent. He had two things. Doing stuff?

Like is he a front-facing guy now still? He's doing front-facing camera videos. His face is healed. I was picturing like Harvey Two-face. Yeah, okay. I didn't know what the... I think he's still making his rounds. Jessica just saw him up in the valley of Pinocchio's that where he always used to

very close to where we saw that one day. He's not... He used to have to drive past everything. every day because he was going to the studio. But now I think he still hangs out at that toy car. No, there's like a car. What is it?

Like a toy train? There's like a model shop. Yeah, yeah. But you can, you can, uh, what's like, it's like RC or, uh, what's it? Slot cars. Where the celebrities race. Jesus. Yes.

Classical music, folks. We'll play that at the end of this episode. That's good. Classical music. Yeah, because it's a classical Christmas time. Christmas time. Holiday time. Because it's classical?

Yeah. Oh, wait. There might be a Christmas reference at the end of that song. No? Hmm. I don't think so, but... Damn. You can stretch the imagination.

Yeah. Is that it for booze news? Wrap it up. Wow. Ding dong, ding dong, ding dong. Ring dong, ring dong. Maybe put in some like ring dong ding dong ding don't. here. Ring dong to ring do. Yeah, ring dong to ring do, me.

Oh, it's the fifth annual Trinidad's Sour Christmas special. Do we just jump to five? Sure. Let's just jump to five. Yeah, because you don't, you don't say like, oh, it's the fifth year of the podcast, but it's the third special. It's fifth annual. Yeah, fifth annual. Who's going to present? I mean, we've presented it already. There's no reason a couple times. It was invented in the Clover Club in Brooklyn. I was just there the other night with Neil and Fran. I said to myself, I need to come here more. This has got a nice holiday winter vibe. They do it up nicer.

That is a wonderful bar owned by Julie Reiner. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Giuseppe. Yes, the bartender Giuseppe Gonzalez, who was working there, invented this drink in 2009. Giuseppe is now living in Las Vegas and we've talked we got in touch with him at one point and you talked about the drink on the show DM'd with him but also he he's over like we love this drink but he's also like don't talk to me about this drink he's sober he's disowned it almost

he's sober he's a workout guy and he's just over like um uh cocktail geek culture so i think he's had enough of people be like, I like this drink. He's just like drink what you want, whatever, do your life. There's not many people like that who drop a masterpiece and then just bounce. I did that with the Sloppy Boys four albums. I'm out. You're out? Where were you playing on telling us?

This is it. The Christmas special. We're just going to have bass and drum albums now. If I do leave, I'll say this right now, I want you guys to replace me with a session guitar player who's polished. Who's old? Who's good? An old guy and a technician. But he's also got to have like a good sense of humor.

Like a good stage presence would be funny on stage. Or I would love it if he was a really good session guitar player. Personal, it doesn't matter, but he still sings all my songs and co-hosts the podcast. He's sitting. He's not in the light, but he's singing all the songs. That's funny. That's very funny because they do that. You know when like pop acts will just have this.

Like Green Day has like a couple extra guys back there. Singing lead vocal on a song from the dark back of the stage. Okay, so here is this Giuseppe, I believe invented this as part of like a cock-kit-tail competition to make the best use of bitters. So Angostura bitters are often hail from Trinidad.

So he called it, he basically made a sour, like a whiskey sour or whatever, but with bitters, which I never knew and even had alcohol in it. Turns out it's like 88 proof. But you only ever use a little. Yeah, for this. one, you've got to pull off that top.

Well, that's right. The last time, last episode, I dumped the whole thing out. Yeah, we had a little Trinidad mishap last time. So the recipe we're doing is Giuseppe's original recipe, which is stiffens up the bitters with a teeny bit of rye whiskey. So listen to this. It is an ounce and a half of Angostura bitters. Very unusual if you're a first-time listener.

Very unusual. One ounce or jat syrup. We know that to be the kind of. almondy amoretoey tasting sugary syrup and used in tiki right that's kind of where we started yeah you'll also find that in a hand slamer too

that's right but it comes from it comes from the coffee or the espresso world I believe kind of yeah then um not tea uh not day

three quarters of an ounce of lemon juice joas de lemon uh half ounce rye whiskey pour all ingredients into a cocktail shaker filled with ice shake while and strain into a chilled cocktail glass, babe?

Yeah, so no ice. No ice served up. You know, they're chilling in the fridge, just like an old Cassaday-Hanford. Nicely done, Jim. That's going to be fun. Do you remember, well, maybe we save it. We get some sips going, and then we reminisce. Yes, well, actually, before we reminisce, I can give you an update on my fridge.

I would love that. It is in, I am not home, but it is now in my home. and I've seen pictures of it I super took them it is a white fridge it's not the brush steel or the black how are you feeling about that

I know you were looking forward to maybe getting a little brushed aluminum I was hoping to get the aluminum one just because that's kind of a more modern look and you know it's 2025 soon to be 26 you feel like a chef Your old chef also your old chef My old chef and I don't talk anymore

Sorry to bring up your old chef You gotta kill me I know the things ended Your old fridge it wasn't flush to the wall. You sort of did it, kitty corner, right? I popped it out a little bit. And why did you do that?

It weirdly gave me more space on that wall. How is it possible? I know, Jeff. I don't know how it's done either, but I said, I don't know what I said. It was a flabbergasted still. Also, your old fridge was like a three-quarter size fridge. Yeah, it was like a little, like miniature apartment. But like that's, I like that size.

Yeah, yeah. And is this that same size? I think so. Nice. I'm just glad it's brim. I think so, unless it's bigger. Yeah, I don't know, man. Well, why do you say we shake up these drinks, and when we come back,

there will just be more of the Trinidad Sour Christmas special will return. Yeah, we'll be reminiscing about the year, and having a great time. Ring dong, ding dong, ding dong, ding dong. And we're back with Trinidad Sowers in hand. Wow. Every time you see it, you think, look how beautiful and velvety that thing is. Unmistakable. I always forget what these things kind of look like a...

Like red-brown. Yeah, they kind of... They look like gravy. It looks like gravy. it looks like diarrhea. With a little blood in it. I was just about a diary after eating beet salad all night. Oh.

Sips? Wow. That little tartness. Now this is nostalgic to me. Makes me nostalgic for season one of the pod. Because this was the first like... Yes, I remember where I was. Absolute shocker of a drink.

Yeah. It was such a surprise to us. It really, I'm going to get a little sentimental here, but it really made me think, hey, no, sentimental is the wrong word. There's a lot of things that can happen to the tongue. That's sentimental. A lot of tastes and twists that you can put it through. Anything can happen on the battlefield of the tongue.

Right now those little taste buds are, I'm the surface of my tongue going, wait, I got to be over here or here. I don't know where I got to be. I feel like when I'm drinking. this now it's making me feel some growth because I remember the first time we made this we're like what bittersies being even as alcohol and what is it this and I don't think I was like a bitters guy whereas now I still think this is a pinging and panging all over the mouth and and a rather stimulating drink but I was like oh man over Thanksgiving I was at my parents cabin up

in the Adirondacks and I was there for a whole week, and my, nobody in my family drinks, you know, and they're not even like, they're not like, it's not even, they just don't even think about it, you know, it's just like not, the great thing about that is take my whole family out to dinner, oh my

God, it's so cheap. We went out to an Italian restaurant and we like feasted and I was like, I got this one. They're like, damn, no. And I look, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, it's like under $100 to feed everybody. What the hell you got the artinis? You forget about it. When you cross the Rubicon into being a drinking

fellow at a restaurant, you're paying like a double. Easily double. But anyway, being at my parents' cabin for a week and there's no booze on hand, I, after I've become so acclimated to after I overeat,

I'm like, I'm going to have a little shot of Fernette and there was no, obviously there's no frenet. There was no nothing. But then I saw my parents have like a little thing of bidders. Trader Joe's holiday bidders or something. because my mom had used it in some recipe

she was following, like some dessert. What does it make it, is it like spicy? Like a cinnamony for holiday? It's like old fashioned bitters. It was like, it's not as dark as Angostura, but it kind of has the same taste. Anyway, I was, I remember that. And also when I was just on doughboys,

Emma was saying that you can just drink bitters as a DJS thief. So I was pouring like a little quarter ounce of bitters for myself after dinner. And just sitting with my mom, mom and dad, they're having dessert. I'm having a little sip of bitters. Tim, it's downright medicinal. It is downright, and I'm sure that's what it started as. But drinking straight bitters demystifies, it doesn't seem that crazy anymore.

After, like, after a few nights that I'm like, yeah, after dinner, I have my quarter-round some blurs. Underberg is a bitters, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's the vibe. Hmm, we should find some Underberg cocktails. Yeah. Why have we not done an Undoberg episode?

Have we should do that? Have we not? That's crazy. We did them in Indianapolis. We basically did an Underberg-themed live show. Yeah. Whoever is, of an Indianapolis, folks,

if you didn't hear this, so we brought like a six-pack of those things or something. It was a lot of bags. I thought they were buying them at the bar. They brought them? I think they brought them. Which is, wait a minute,

I don't think you just bring the liquor in. You can get them like a lot of places. Like the bar next to me doesn't have a liquor license per se, but has Underberg. Well, I've seen that before, but then also this place, black circle brewing in Indianapolis

This was a beer bar, but then they did have a few liquor drinks. And I was like, ah, this doesn't happen. It's funny because there was a sign that was just like, we don't have tequila. Stop asking. It was like, I said it about it. Yeah, it's not a sign for tequila. Provide it. Make that money.

Is there, maybe there's something in that state. Who knows where like you can't have a certain amount of liquor? I don't know. Everybody asks for that. Bro, if everybody's asking for it, make that money. Make that money. Make that tip. Has that plant treating you, Mike?

Good. It's hovering right over my head. It's resting right on your head. The fiddly fig leaf is right on my head. Fiddly fig. I wouldn't even mind it's serrating in here and I can start raining? Yeah, then I can be under here like a little mushroom mouse. A little mouse under a mushroom.

A mushroom mouse? Yeah, something like that. This, uh, that tastes a little smokier than I remember. There's always the hint of tree bark or sticks in, uh, Angistura. But I feel like I'm getting almost like a peedy. Whoa, maybe, maybe, what kind of was, what grand of ride or do? use. Elijah Creek, of course. Ah, yes. It was a red-hot

deal at Albertsons. I had to do it. The traditions of Elijah Creek. I think that that's not bad. Whiskey, I feel like I've seen that in... No, it's not bad. In YouTube videos when, like, somebody's making a cocktail, I've seen it, so it's like, cocktail we're not ashamed

of it. And there's only a half an ounce in each of our glasses. Yeah. I fucked up the first round because I didn't read the direction. Of course, I reached for the rye first instead of the bitters and I put that you know I put you know several ounces in the shaker and I had to throw it folks I didn't do the shram method yep do that put the least expensive ingredients and build up you build up the most expensive ingredient is that the

bitters if you think about yeah you're right you're right all right but still semi-shram you semi-sramed it semi-shram I got to tell you guys I was over at uh Tamo shant her the other night. Nice. And they said, a waiter came around. What would you like to drink, sir? I said, drink a cocktail for me. Well, let me run through what I've been to drink a cocktail. He said, no, but which kind?

I was like, which kind? Very typical interaction. Yeah, yeah. No, I had I had a Rob Roy. And it was so good. It was, you know, just needed the, we just needed the right. Those are so good no matter how you make them.

You know what I happen to know is that Rob Roy is really a Manhattan with scotch instead of dry. It felt like that type of Manhattan-y. It's got that kind of heft to it. You drink it down and it is a nice... Rob Roy, to me, was a nice wintry drink. Because we were outside, actually. Did you get the sense that they used a dusty old bottle of Noali Pratt? This thing was...

I was like, which bottle do you use for the remote? He's like, that one over there. It was like glistening. It was so bright. I was like, oh, wow, so it was new. brand new and he said that's what you got to do to make these good yeah for the red sweet vermouth yeah yeah that's what he said the waiter what does he know yeah that's true he is only the waiter and the bartender would know more yeah I think I saw the bartender actually

reached down and come up and go and a bunch of dust flew off but yeah we're like what the hell's that he's like oh that helps the reindeer fly it's Santa dust what the fuck What kind of lemon juice you use? Santa Cruz brand. I could tell it wasn't fresh squeezed. What the fuck? I could just tell. You using fresh squeeze all the time?

I did for the first year of the pod. I always do. I used it for five years of the pod. Wow. Now, I get those little lemony things that look like lemons, the bottles. Now that's bad. That's bad to do. Don't look at me like I'm bad.

That's bad. Oh, but other times I have the real one. Okay. So that's good. Okay. So you're back to good. No, I'm half good, half bad. You're almost on the naughty list, man.

He's all good, you're all bad. I'm half good, half bad. Yeah. Okay. Almost on the naughty list. Do you guys do any resolutions this year? We're about a week out. Yeah, getting off Spotify is one of them.

Right. Right, right, right. Going to the gym, of course. By the end of 2026, you're going to be off Spotify? End of 2025. What are you going to do, band camp? I was looking at title, actually. Oh, right?

That was the whole point of that one was if they give the good percentage, right? They got that good, good. That was Jay Z. and Jay Z's thing, right? Yeah, I just was comparing... Wasn't Kanye, though? Yeah, but like everybody. Madonna, Dead Mouse,

staff punk, like, everybody's backing title. But didn't, wasn't Kanye, like, an owner? Yeah, I think you're right. And he was doing exclusive just his stuff for an album or two. But, like, you know, they marched out like 30 superstars

to, like, launch title. But the thing, yeah, like we were saying last time, like, I don't think there's a streamer. They're all bad. Doesn't have a nice sweet thing story. I've been doing Apple music, like the old school iTunes.

this whole time as well. I like buy tracks occasionally. For a while, I was burning CDs for my car until this year. Yeah, yeah. That's funny to say for a while. Yeah, your whole life until last year. That's crazy. You burned CDs in the 2020s, even in this decade. Hell yeah. I haven't burned a CD since

P. Tim? No, he might drink up. He's going to dream about it. You know why? Because my last five computers haven't had drives and I don't own external drives. So I probably haven't burned a CD since 2010. Could we do an episode where we, the three of us are hooked up to monitors while we sleep

and we can maybe that somebody can read our rhythms and, you know, kind of going along with your snore thing. Because I was just saying you were going to dream up the, you want to read our rhythms? My, I want to read the rhythms and the dreams and stuff. Well, so my, when I, when I did a sleep therapy for my sleep apnea, they didn't read my dreams. But that's what I want to know if there's technology that could read our dreams. They're like, Tim, uh, unfortunately, it seems your throat is getting too relaxed, causing a

snore, a choky snore. Also, you were, uh, you said, Pam Anderson was on your brain. Pam Anderson seems to be making a lot of appearances these days. Yeah. We noticed that, uh, every time you dream about Pam Anderson, that was the blood flow, it's not centered in your brain. Yeah, but, uh, your boxers got constrictive in the middle of the night. Separate sensors on my boxers to see.

how constrict the fibers of the cotton are actually stretching. The fibers are made up just like a tiny liars. They're smart enough to do all this, but not be able to figure out that I have a boner. Your boxers, there's little microphones on the boxers, and it sounds like the creaking of ship ropes. And Tim, we're seeing here, you've been dreaming about the 90s, Pam Anderson, not the 2025. Oh, what are you not?

You were thinking. No, no, no, I like the old gardener. The old gardener. Is she a gardener now? She's a gardener. Hey, that's all right. Dig your own garden. Yeah, fucking melon gardener.

Hey, you watch it, buddy. You watch yourself. Come on. You think she's digging holes, planting her breasts in the ground. That what? What? They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, that's not. Hey, that's not appropriate.

Oh, God. And then, they. The eggplant is Tommy Lee's wang. Oh, God. And then a shriveled old carrot is Liam Neeson's wang. Hey, wait. Oh, right. They're dating.

Foe dating. Foe dating. They got you, dude. It was just for the promotion of the movie. They got you. They got me, too. They got me, too. They got me too.

They got the best of us. They got the best in L.A. If he was, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, Mason was really dating Pam Anderson, the little trickle in his pants and all the paparazzi photos would not be pee. Oh yeah. What is it? So he's just pissing his pants. It would be pre-come

dude. Yeah. And post. That would be PC. It would be pre and post, dude. Hold on, guys. I got a good idea in this world of sequels and redo, re- yes, yes. What if

the price was right? What if Tommy Lee and Pam Anderson got back together for one more a sex tape on a boat. That would be huge. They get so rich. That would be huge. And that would be like properly monetized, properly credited.

Properly credited, Pam would be, have, there'd be an intimacy coordinator. It would be on me. Yeah, I volunteer to do that. I'd like to see you to work together on set as an intimacy coordinator. Yeah, I've done it. I worked on a few movies. I'd typically be like, okay, now you, miss, you're going to lay here on the bed

kind of like, hey, he. And then, sir, you're going to get on top like, ugh, uh, you know, that type of thing. And how should be, oh, yeah, it's doggy. Oh, yeah, it's doggy. The Intimacy Corner is supposed to make it all like calm, very professional. It's like, oh, yeah, and I forgot the mention. He's getting the crew psyched for what they're about to shoot. After totally, having the cast totally comfortable and then turn into the teamsters,

uh, and it's doggy. Woo! It's like, this guy's great. He knows how to talk to the actors. He talks to the crew. He talks to the press. He's a master of sex. Oh, yeah.

We got him doing doggy in three scenes. This one, this is where the woman starts, uh, thrusting. And, uh, she's getting real hard. He does, she, he does, this one doesn't know what he, this one doesn't know. The anatomy. Have you ever been on set? for a nude scene? No.

But for our own nude scenes. Sure. Yeah, yeah. No, I have not. I would be, if I was in a, in a, like, intimate scene, I would probably be like, okay, let's just have the people that need to be in this room. Yeah, I think that's true. Is that kind of, yeah, okay.

But you know what's weird? I would appreciate that because I think it would be, I mean, look, hey, I could perform, but it would be weird. Oh, I got to get a little anecdote. You go. In Starship Troopers, the director, what's, oh, Paul Verhoeven. You know, there's like a group shower scene because they're like, they're grunts.

They're space, they're in space, but they're like army grunts. You've seen Starship Troopers? I never seen it. It's good. Yeah, it's great. I never saw it, but I knew at the time, I thought it looked like a stupid movie

and people like, no, it's like winky. It's good satire. And it predicts Fox News, essentially, like state media. You know what I did like is Galaxy Quest. Continue. I need to see Running Man, the original. Go ahead. Folks.

throwing a lot at you right here these are some good blowouts in our future there are group shower scenes in Starship Troopers and to make everybody comfortable Paul Verhoven was also new directing them oh my God

yeah to make them comfortable but I mean that that is kind of like a hey George Washington wouldn't have his troops do anything anyway and just so that you guys are comfortable I'm going to get hard and I'm going to shoot below you don't know that he was hard you don't know that I have

a feeling. Paul Verhoven, is he... Showgirls. Yeah. Does he have anything to do with Robocop? Yeah, he does. Is he Robocop? He's got a lot to do with Robocop. Is he the actor who plays Robocop? No, that's Peter Weller.

Okay, now what, Robocop, I remember a scene where a guy like melts, but isn't there also, like... That terror, I hated that as a guy. I remember being like, yikes. Is there also a nudity scene in Robocop that's like somebody's, like, boobs get shot off or anything? I think you see some of Robocop's screws. Yeah, you see one of his screws for sure And two little nuts

Which they are nuts in mechanical world Yeah, yeah Well, no, there's an S-A scene There's an attempted rape scene And Robocop shoots a guy in the nards Yes, I remember that Who directed a reanimator?

Ooh, I think I know this one Oh, come on, Jim Sam Ramey. No? Damn. He's the same. He's a good guy. Stuart Gordon.

I don't even know that name. Stu Gordon. Stu Gordon and the downtown kids. From all your favorites are back. From all your favorites are back. This guy also did from beyond. He's sort of like a... Beyond!

Um, okay, wait. What I was going to say was, um, speaking of intismissy coordinate and the like. Intimitimic. Have you seen, Have you seen Kim's new, like, Intimates brand? It's like Intimacy me. Oh, Kim Kardashian.

I have a brand Intimacy. Intimacy. Intimitated. Intim, I see much sexuality. This is good. Make no to this. Intimacy. Intimidated.

These are good words that you could use with capitalize your name in it. Yes. And if I had a fragrance, it would be like people saying these words. You got kind of a smell. Stop that. Oh, no, but this happens to me with the other facets of life, but you ever have someone doing something good with the right intentions, but it almost calls too much attention and it makes you uncomfortable.

I was doing a nude scene in the birthday boys show where you, Mike and Dave, like, picked me out. I was sunbathing naked. Oh, yeah, you were very, yeah. Oh, it was called, the sketch was guy who keeps hurting his dick. And I kept getting a car accidents and my dick would be, cast and stuff like that. But I see more...

It got bit by a shark at one point. Bit by a shark. It got sunburned. So during the sunburned part, I'm sunbathing nude and they gave me the classic like cock sock. Yeah. Which goes, it goes over the scrotum. They should call it a cock and scrotum sock.

A genital covering. But I almost felt everyone was being respectful, but I almost felt like it was just like between... Two bird. A Our first Our AD with the best intentions was like Timmy should I have the unnecessary

Like started having unnecessary people Like PAs like leave the set and stuff And that almost just made it like I didn't even really think about the fact that I was Doing a nude scene until it was like Let's get all the PAs out of here And then suddenly I was like Oh okay

And then the I was sort of in a magic land where this was all okay It was just like I'm being stupid and this is stupid, you know? But then suddenly I was just like, oh, this is like a work environment and I'm naked in front of my employees. Yeah, right, right.

And then... Right, when you think about it just as like a silly joke thing, like, you don't even... The intimate part makes it like, oh, yeah, get people up the set. A naked man is different than a sex scene. So it had crossed my mind. Because like, we had had other, like, in the Seven Brothers Breweries

sketch, I've told this before, but like, I was wearing tight... We were all wearing tidy wetties and we were in the water. pool. And you could see through the, I didn't know it, but you could see through the tidy ways so that they had me put on two pairs of tidy ways. I was like, why would I? Oh. Tim, it's because your, your Greek, swarthy pubic hair is too dark. We're getting two greatest sense in what's going on down there. But, um, so then when I was doing the sunbathing scene, as we shot at, this is like standard good form, but like between takes, the wardrobe

lady would run over with a, um, robe for me. Yeah. Yeah. And I, that may, me feel like I had to put it on. You like, and then suddenly when I'm taking it off, I'm naked again. And it was just, it's like everyone was doing everything right, but I wasn't nervous or uncomfortable

until the robe was handed to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Mike, you, you and Mitch did in the pilot Ropes and Underwear, which you're spending the entire scene totally naked and we blurred you. So kind of the whole day.

Bob fought to blur. That was like a conversation. To not blur. Oh, to not blur. Tonoppler. Right, right, right. Because they were, they were holding their dicks in their hands and covering. And we had that, we had the cock socks on two.

I think I still have mine. Yeah, I think so that, so that you're- I keep it in a matchbook. But, like, it was, uh, yeah, you will, you have to have the cock-sock because your, your hand can't be on your junk for eight straight hours. You got to be able to, like, eat. I've had some very interesting weekends that it would go against that. But, hey, you got to be able to eat sun chips or take a sip of water, you know what I mean?

I just accidentally. take your hand off your cock and reach for a sun chip. Whoops! Your hand goes into the bag. Sorry, buddy. These chips taste like pee.

What the fuck? It tastes like pee. You're screaming at the caterer. These chips taste like pee. You're out of here. You know what? That's straight three. You're out of here.

Taking your hand off your digging again to point away. Get off my set. This is, though, fun stuff. This has been a little nostalgic episode, huh? Yeah, the holiday special

was hitting now. Great, great blend here. Jeff, Jeff, mix these up for us. It's a real good blend. You're nicely done. Hey, thanks. I just follow the directions. This is as scripted. I'm a law-abiding citizen. This is not bad. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.

Well, I'm just going to keep on sipping this, but I might supplement with some other drinks. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. It being just sort of a Christmas special, anything goes. You know what? I want to drink on round two? Straight bitters. I was running my mouth about how I drink straight bitters.

Just a little splash. Folks, I didn't believe him until he said he's going to do it live on pod. And we're going to see him when we come back after this. Ding dong, ding dong. Ding dong, ding dong. And we're back. Here at the Trinidad Sour Holiday Special, things really popping off here, folks, here in the studio, here in the living room, here in the pod. What did you guys do differently? Tim, you did bitters, Jeff, you got kind of the remains of the aborted first round.

So the main liquor in this one is the rye. You know, there's only about a half ounce of rye in the correct version. Ah. This is basically a rye sour. It's part that you kept it, Jeff. If I did that, I would have been so frustrated and I would just got rid of it. Flusher down the toilet. Get this out of here. I don't want anyone to know about this.

But it's got a rash out, so it's got a little spicy little flavor to it. Ooh, that's fun. As for me, I'm about to take a sip of straight Angostura, which I've never done. Really? That would be something you've done before. No, because I had, uh,

well, I probably held the bottle up to my mouth. I'm like, here we go, sips away. Like a hamster in a cage. It can't be good, man. yeah way too much I see why Giuseppe balanced it out nicely done Giuseppe

and I'm just doing my leftover I would say as intense as that was it's not too intense to after dinner feeling bloated need some medicine how would you compare it to a Underberg though which is also fucking intense

exactly the same there you go and you know it's going shing through those cheez-its Yeah, I was, Jeff always has cheese it's. And it's funny because you, you're a goldfish guy and a cheese guy. So you like cheese crackers, but you're never going to find a cheese nip in this. Never once. I'm seeing the back of this cheese box.

I've never seen this tagline. Want it, need it, cheese it. Yeah. What I love about a cheese at it, no, no box of cheese it has ever been purchased by me or been in my home. What? Ever once. You got to do it. Really?

I mean, I don't really buy snacks, but no, I've never bought cheese. It's ever. handful of cheese it and a glass of orange juice. That's disgusting. Don't, folks, don't, don't listen somebody. Somebody DM me. I think I mentioned this. It is a thing that people do. Oh, freaks. Weird freaks. Weird freaks. You need the orange juice or just filling your mouth? No, orange juice and cheese it. Why? Why would other people have thought of that? It's a color color match. I can see that. A lot of us will be like, I don't know what to eat. I'll just match colors and hope it's good. When you guys were growing up, did you ever drink Tang? No. Yeah. No. I loved it's an

orange it would come in like a not on the reg I drank it on the reg like remember when a Kool-Aid there were the pouches of Kool-Aid that were unsweetened but then also sometimes like the little plastic tub the plastic tub of Kool-Aid we would do like country time lemonade more often in my house

yes well during that era or crystal light yes well you drink a diet drink as a kid just what mom would have and I'd be like ooh raspberry I like raspberry in that era when they were doing the plastic tubs Tang was like, hey, we're the original powder. Let's come back.

We're good enough for astronauts. We're good enough for you. The whole thing with them was it was because it was like the first like freeze dried thing or like powder drink. But I remember probably in like 1995. Astronauts would add it to their piss and drink it. They use their piss as the water. They would put their dick in their mouth. And then they put a little powder and then they would pee.

And folks, it takes a lot of training to do. that first part. Yeah, that's really hard. But... When they wing them around in that big old centrifuge, that's what they're training to do. Folding them over. Wing them around. I love Tang. I drank a lot

of tang. Also, that's a weird thing about 90s nutrition is like I was a little fat kid chugging the sugriest shit in the world, but I thought it was healthy. It's like, it has vitamin C, I think. It's just like, I added powder to water. How bad could it be? It's just water. And we also, in that era that was

like the sunny D time, but I never, until L.A., I never had Tampico. You ever have that Mexican drink, Tampico? Is that like, uh, Sunny D. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's next to the horchata. Yeah. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, that had that bite, that throat bite, I could never get over. You know, the drink that bites back.

Yeah, I hate it when I drink a drink and it doesn't bite back. Because also, you don't, you don't bite the drink. No, no, I chew it. You bite the cup. It's the drink that slurps back. You're biting the cup. That's what people don't really realize. This is an order again for me, man.

Wait, where are you going with this, Mike? Are you trying to get out of here or something? Yeah, I'm trying to get done with it. It's Christmas time. I've got to get my shopping done. You're trying to end a holiday special early or something, man? I'm trying to shoot into the new year. Well, real quick.

You were grilling me about my New Year's resolution. We started talking about Spotify and all. that shit i want to hear about my boys resolutions i was just on the doughboys podcast we talked about resolutions and i said to them and i'll tell you the same thing i'm going to try to write every day like jerry sign felt morning pages i just something i i just got so many notes and shit and just like i need to actually be typing to call myself a writer did you do morning pages have you no i did it like for uh two days in a row once years ago timothy's morning pages uh UCB Sketch 201, Tammy Sanger had us do Morning Pages.

I didn't like it for me. In that era, I didn't need it. Maybe now I could use it. Did you, have you read the artist's way? No, but you have. Julia Cameron. Is it Morning Pages a part of that? Yes.

It's like the main thing. It's just funny because like now I could see how it's like, oh yeah, what's on my mind? Well, dig deep and I could find a thing. But when I was doing it at like 24, I was like, I have fucking 5,000. ideas a day that I'm excited about. I don't need to like try to do an exercise. Right one of those. Yeah, totally. I wrote all of those. I wrote all those and it was

so fun. Now I'm like, hmm, what is, what, what, what my, what's happening in my brain? Have you have you, uh, done any more with the book? Um, you mean malicious intent? Yeah. I forgot this. It was. Uh, you know, I'm maybe in 20, maybe I'll write it in 2026. You're like, no, but I just had an idea

for a nosy character. I feel like I But the idea for malicious intent, I don't think I've gone on, I'm not going to say it, but I don't know if I've gone on pause. I've said the title, but I've never said the premise of my novel. Keep it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it dear. You have it to you in the van one time. Yeah. Was I asleep? But a lot of ideas get exchanged in the van. We can't be expected to remember all the idea. You know, typically you have to like break a story and it's exhausting. I just one day, and I'm not like this, a whole novel just was in my head. And I was like, all I need is to set aside the week to write it. This happened exactly with Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel ceiling.

Yeah. And same type of thing, I need a ladder to get up high before I work on this thing. You've got a high typewriter. Yeah. Typewriter, I should say. We also, we came up, that's a good title, though. Malicious intent. We came up with another great title on the road the other day.

City of Graves. Ooh, that is. The sloppy boys, perhaps album five. City of Graves. Yeah, maybe it's a metal album. Yeah, it's like a theme metal. It's got like an iron made. cover with like

kind of a futuristic gory three three buff dudes on the cover fighting a skeleton man fighting skeleton man fighting a zombie man wait who's the Iron Maiden Eddie? Eddie yeah I think that's Eddie the guy

Eddie Van Halen All right Michael you've said you've said your basic thoughts but Order again for me Go off King And I actually am going to order again Maybe that's what I'll do in 26. When I go to a bar, I actually ask for this thing, is I never do.

I've only ever had this out in the real world in at the Clover Club. Folks, 2026, we ask for what we want. We ask for what we need. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We don't just sit there and hope the bartender knows what we're talking. We don't take no for an answer. We don't take no for an answer.

Put that on the city of graves. We don't take no for an answer. No, that's from the Muppets. Instead of, instead of, we're not gone. take it. We don't take no very answer. That's already a Muppets song from like one of the movies. Well, we'll buy the lyrics from them and we'll buy the melody from Twist's

sister. I'm trying to. I just saw Like, we're already confused for the Muppets band. It's okay. I know that's true. I just saw the Kermit on top of the Henson Studios got moved down to Kermie? Atlanta to a museum or something. Kirby? You saw it? You saw it? But the studio on

LeBreya is still Henson or no? That I didn't know. I saw this on an Instagram. picture and it could be fake. Oh, I don't know, frog. You know, it was a Chaplin Studios and you know it's where they recorded. We are the world. Wow. And did you know that

even John Mayer himself owns a slice of that little chunk of land? Henson Studios. Really? John Mayer? A co-op of people came together to like save it from getting like turned into a high rise. Probably a high rise. And

among the notables, my much maligned enemy, John Mayer. It's weird that when you hear about a high-rise, you're like, no, we have to stop that. But when you hear about low-rise, you're like, those will be some good genes. I was dating a girl years ago who said, she DM'd John Mayer, and he responded.

And I said... About this high-rise, low-rise thing? No. She DMed John Mayer? Yeah, yeah. It doesn't surprise me that he's writing back to the chicks in his DMs. Tim, your final thoughts?

Or it again? We give our final thoughts to the fireplace, and they're burned, and they go, they, they go up and the ashes fall all over Los Felas. Yep. It's an order again, because this is one of my favorite drinks of all time. And my New Year's resolution is I'm going to re-up. I'm going to recommit myself to in 2026, I'm only speaking 33.33 of the podcast. What have I lower it to 23%? Yeah, then you'll probably hit you.

You guys each get an extra five. I don't know what I'd do with that extra five. I'd probably talk about Mega Man. It could be silence. Yeah, I might be comfortable just sitting with my thoughts. What if we have a meditation for 10 minutes? Do you think that people think of our podcast as like, the pace is manic or it's chill? I don't think it's chill.

In the beginning, up top, I don't think it's chill. I still don't think we've dialed in how we start this podcast. No, and I think that when I listen to other. Yeah, I always feel like it's a little bit like. Well, host, host, Jesus, Chris. We're all hosts. look at me. You're the host of the main. I host the blowout. What's him doing then? He's just the gig guest. He's the talking of guests. Maybe I will bring a little more

structure into 2026. Oh, no. Now you've asked for it. No. Tim, did you give your final thoughts? Order again. That's it? You leave it at that? No, I said it was one of my favorite drinks. He talked about it for too long. Okay. And for me, it's an order again as well. And it's not just a Christmas thing. Folks, I've been making a lot of things that qualify as Christmas things. Industry sour I made the other day. Oh.

Because our new buddy Andy at Luxardo, he hooked us up with a little Dal Santo. Oh, but a little bit of green herbal liqueur. Wink, wink, somewhat chartruzy. Yeah, a certain... A monastery dweller might enjoy this. It is quite monk-like. Enjoy making it.

It's monk-like in flavor profile, and it does quite well in an industry sour it's way more accessible what's an industry sour um it's Luxardo del Santo yeah for net bronca

lime juice and simple syrup equal parts you shake it up I probably have one of those for one of the next record it's fucking great yeah it's amazing um this is an order again folks it this take that tastes christmasy to me this tastes

christmasy to me but this one I do feel nostalgic just for this very own pod because this was the first drink that knocked my socks off. And we've grown since then. It doesn't knock my socks off quite as much. No. Because you can only see 2001 Space Odyssey for the first time once.

Right, right. You know? And you know all about the robe of the talk about. You know what a how is going to do. You're like, I know, now I know what the Star Child is and means. So you got it on the first. first time and then by the second viewing you were bored

now Neil Campbell said the 2001 of Space Odyssey was the best film of all time when we had him on the podcast I might have to issue a Campbell's correction on that oh best movie ever is sinners that's our show

follow us on social meet wait wait wait wait wait wait wait that's not our show folks oh it is you're right yes Meehan. No, no, leave this and go. That's our show.

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It's www. www. Patreon.com slash the sloppy boys. That's where you get twice as much cheer every week. Folks, it's the whole other

series that we do every week. For example, we can hear us. We revisited the Big Lobowski. How cool. is that. A lot of film podcasts, they would never say, go back to Big Lebowski. That's played out. We're like, okay, it's the cult classic that's been cult classic. It's too much. Well, every other podcast is talking about sinners. We're the only ones talking about the Big Lebowski. Yep. And maybe I'll make myself a Caucasian. Hey. Oh, stop. Very nice. What, I will. Stop. Okay. I need to use the restaurant. That's not good pod talk. Good night. Bye, folks.

Peace. That's a good. Pot talk. Well, I've been all around this crazy world, been to London, I've been to friends. Went to Waikiki with my best buddy, and we did the hool-a-da. Spent a whole paycheck one night in Rome It was well worth a denaro I like to have some fun

And shake my buns when I'm in Rio de Janeiro I stay out all damn night When I'm in Mexico City Then I oversleep and miss my flight Mmm, what a pity Went to Tokyo And don't you know I almost lost my life

Made it out of there By the skin of my teeth After I kissed Godzilla's wife On a Swedish dance floor They yelled for more And they almost crowned me king I like to ski half drunk in the old Swiss Alps of Yolethe, who kind of thing. I love all these places.

There are travelers' delight. But I trade them all for New York City just to have a classic New York night. Walking down to New York City Street Can't make anyone feel alive There's a tapping you toe And everybody a pass We'll raise their hands to give a high five There's a soundtrack through the city

Jazz at every piece of shop And you'll find your groove And that New York funk ringing out from every rooftop We started all night At the Empire State Building in hand We had ourselves some fears We met the mayor there

And he shook our hands And he led around to cheer He said go out and have some fun And he gave us a bunch of cash Said my apartment's always open If you need a place to crash It was a classic New York Night

We bugged on down to Soho Then sang a song at Carnegie Hall Met some poets in the East Village for a jazzy beat Nick Barcrawl Went to Harlem to see some Broadway plays off the Melo Man at Gagin'Rite

Then we published our review In the New York Times made the front page The very same night Took a handsome path to Washington Square Where they play buckets just like fondos We're to the Sears Tower Which is in New York I think To be honest, I really don't know

Saw the gold trying to play the Yankees On the Aston MSG For 20 little statues that looked exactly Like the statue of liberty Got sloshed and buzzed in Chinatown A pastor little in Lee Watch the New Year's ball drop in Old Times Square That thing can get much more glittery

Filled the balloons for Thanksgiving Got in our St. Paddy's Day fight Then lit off some fireworks for Uncle Samuel was a classic New York night New York City It's a hell of a town New York City The best town around New York City

There's on turn it back and the taxi cabs drive on the subway train We took the beach trade up to Brooklyn, baby The Q train out to Queens We took the J train to Billy Joel's apartment Watch the Jets on his new fat screen Just one thing to remember Just one thing to recall No trains go to Staten Island

No trains go there at all No trains go to Staten Island Have you want a girls Then take my advice And give a taxi cab a call And have a classic New York night. We stopped in the CBG base to watch some New York City vans. The Ramones rocked out and the strokes were cool.

Beyonce's husband shook our hands. But Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys, men, they blew us all away. The very best part was when they pointed at us and they asked us if we wanted to play. your stage and took their gear and started playing with all of our minds. Kelt me rounder with the beach boys. It was a classic New York night. Well, you know it's true what they say. This whole damn city is a melting pot.

So many people are like. Languages flying around I feel like I'm at Epcot Then all of a sudden I snapped my fingers, had a beautiful idea Let's hop on a jet to Disney World I hear it's great this time of air

We stopped at our apartment Where we pay a billion dollars rent Went to JFK and the quarry of two, both named after the president. Hopped the plane to Orlando, had a cocktail on the fly. It was a classic New York night. We whirled and twirling in Disney World. It was a classic New York. Mickey, my man will see when we land.

It was a classic New York. Had a wonderful day in FLA. What can I say? We like it that way. Tomorrow at 10, we're going to do it again. It was a classic New York night. If you can make it there, you've really made it there. It was a classic New York night.

Don't wait up for me. I'm going wild in the city. City. It's a hell of a damn city. It's a classic New York City. One of those crazy New York nights. God, I love this town. God, I love the Empire's day building.

It's a hell of a town. A hell of a town. Lord, I love this town. It was a classic New York night. Yeah