The Sloppy Boys - 272. 1439 (Live in Lansing)
Episode Date: January 2, 2026The guys mix Faygo and Crown Royal the way they used to down at Cafe D’Mongo’s.Recorded live at Grewal Hall, Lansing, MI1439 RECIPE: 2oz/60ml CAPTAIN MORGANtop up FAYGO ROCK & RYEPour Cap...tain Morgan Spiced Rum into a highball glass filled with ice.Top up with Faygo Rock & Rye. Stir gently.Recipe via Cafe D'Mongos SpeakeasyWANT MORE SLOP? Check out:PatreonSHOP the webstore at:The Sloppy Boys WebsiteLISTEN to The Sloppy Boys hit songs on:Apple MusicSpotifyYoutubeTOUR DATES, SOCIALS and more at:LinktreeT H E S L O P P Y B O Y S L L CExpand Ascend Conquer Retain Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oh, what's up, Lansing!
Welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love.
I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Michael Hanford.
Hello.
And Tim Calpacus.
What's up?
Woo!
And we are your hosts, a band that has a podcast.
That happens to do this sometimes, but we're mostly a band.
On our taxes, it says band.
Does it really?
It says occupation banned.
Yep.
I have to do my taxes still from, God, from 2022.
You're going to jail, man.
You're going to fucking jail.
No, no, no, no.
In 2025, L.A. got that extension.
but you're, you live in New York?
I'm a BK guy.
We do have some friends who are like...
Burger King?
That's right.
BK.
No, I'm an Arby's guy.
We do have some friends who are like,
I got to do my taxes.
I'm like, dude, it's October.
He's like, yeah, I got to do him from last year.
Yeah, I know.
And the year before, too.
And I was like, why did I grow up thinking that I go to jail
if I do all that math wrong?
I don't know.
There are some people who just don't do any of it.
And then they get a phone call being like,
sorry, friend, we got to walk you,
through that.
We wish you did it.
And like,
it's like the Kramer life,
the Kramer approach.
Right, right, right, right.
Where things just kind of work out
for that guy anyway.
That's not what I learned
from the ant and the grasshopper.
I've been to,
I've been that grasshopper for too long now.
I'm waiting for the ants to get me going.
I'm the ant in that one.
I'm grasshopper, man.
Tim, what are you, dude?
Grass ant.
Ooh.
The unholy hybrid between the grasshopper in the A.
When you're just talking about people doing their taxes at the last minute,
you know, it's even like in L.A., we had these fires this year.
So it was like, don't worry about April 15th,
do it, October 15th.
So everyone waits and is doing the last minute then.
Right, right.
But it's funny that it's just like, you take the amount of time you have,
and it reminds me analogously.
Ooh.
Okay.
This is exciting.
Touring.
We're on tour, folks.
This is the last.
night of the tour we wouldn't do it anywhere but michigan baby i see some familiar faces from the
detroit show last night yeah the band we're a rock of detroit last night thanks for coming uh for this too
but there's a funny thing about a tour is if if you're on a if you're on a six-month tour you get
all partied out if you're on a three-day tour you get all partied out you kind of you you you you
you it just takes up the amount of space you have so that being the last night i'm like if i had to do a show
I would pass away.
Right, right, right, right.
But if I had known from the beginning
we had a show tomorrow,
then I would be totally fine.
I didn't realize we had today's show,
so I'm about to pass away.
No, I...
Natural causes, natural causes.
Mike, you are, you sleep in a little later than me.
To the tune of hours, like three or four hours.
And it keeps pushing...
Hell what I say in the grasshopper.
So, at first, you made a joke,
you made jokes about it.
You remember early on on the tour.
we'd both be awake and then he'd roll over at like, quarter 11 and be like,
oh, all right, guys, we've got to go.
And like, like, you've been ready this whole time.
And then jump up and do some boxing by, like, good.
Oh, yeah, we're trying to do some shadow boxing in the morning.
But now you keep waking up later and later, and it's pushing and pushing.
And I am afraid that one day you just won't wake up.
And if the sleep starts to meet up with an other, with the bedtime is the issue.
You think I'm going to get up, get a cup of coffee, go back to bed.
For the rest for another.
You got to be careful because I'm there, you know, with my, when I go to dinner,
I'm drinking the appuritivus, and then after dinner I have the Dja Steves.
Sometimes I leave only a split second for a normal cocktail.
Right, right, right.
There's a martini, glock.
I got a line of martini's, go, go, go, go, go, bring me mine for that.
Sir, sir, well, let's get the food out of here first.
What's your problem?
I'm weird.
I was weird from day one.
I am feeling
it today. I was doing
all right and now I woke up with a little
tickle here, a little nasal
here. I'm drinking a lot
of day quill today and I'm feeling
better. But he's shaking hands at the
merch table for the show everybody. I'm doing
elbow. Yeah, we have
posters, stickers, or you can have Hanford breathe in your mouth.
That's a merch situation. Yeah, get some viral
germs grown here
in my chest. Did you notice there's a COVID
memorial up the street. I saw that. That's, I like that. This is the first COVID memorial I've ever seen.
It really, it struck me. I was like, we were walking by and I was like, oh, well, this is not
something great to get into for a fun podcast. We're going to have it. But you look at it and you're
like, oh yeah, COVID was this giant thing. I suspect there's a lot of COVID memorials.
They're just teeny tiny microscopic. You don't see them. I don't know. I don't know about that.
Well, also it's, you know, in a way, the memorials for us, because we all had COVID several times.
So it's kind of nice they're paying tribute to
rough couple of weeks I have
here and there
I hated having it
to the survivors
Can I tell you
Can we talk about what we had for breakfast today
It was something I'd never had before
I mean I've had it before but not for breakfast
I had a poutine with breakfast
That was
eye opening for me
I'm going to be going back to
My regular life being like
Can we get gravy on any of this?
stuff. Like, I need to start my day off slow.
Yeah. I need to slow this way down.
Yeah. I'll tell you, I got when it flew a little too close to the sun, I got eggs on top of my
putine. Uh-huh. You were like, I need a little more goo on these fries.
Unnecessary. You know, like, in theory, you're like, oh, when the yolk is, oh, like in
ramen or something. But on top of gravy, nope, nasty. No. Did you, what kind of, did you have,
uh, overeasy, like the yolk's flannel? Plus, you're seeing yellow on brown.
You know, yellow and brown.
It reminded me of a certain room in my house
where I perform certain activities.
The tiger room?
Yeah.
At Kelpie's hideaway?
Maybe I'll start going on the bathroom,
the tiger room.
Let me ask you this when you guys get eggs, ovaries,
or at least where the yolk can break.
You get the toast, you know, you dip the toast, all that.
Do you guys ever get nervous?
Oh, my God.
What the fuck?
This is a bad new.
I just say.
Wow.
This is a good.
These are drinks from Mitch on the web.
Look at that.
Let's take it.
There's a two tone effect.
Mitch,
what do we got going on here?
It's a pineapple upside down.
It's a little teeny fine.
Ooh.
Let me pass these out.
This is a pineapple upside down.
Thank you.
It's a pineapple upside down as in as, now what is in it?
Well, let me get the microphone over to you.
Watch it, buddy.
That's a real thing for some people.
What do we got in here, Mitch?
So it's a little bit of some Malibu.
There is some pineapple, of course, right?
There's some credity in there, and then peach snobs.
Damn.
But I do like this two-tone.
Two-tone.
Now, is this a shot or a sipper?
Do what you want.
Yeah, I like that.
It's a Michigan zipper.
Thanks, Mitch.
Thanks, Mitch.
Let's hear of Mitch.
Ooh, wait.
Mm.
Oh, juicy.
Yeah.
I can't wait to get down to that red bottom as well.
Yeah, that's really good.
I forget how much I like pineapple juice.
I keep trying to tell you.
Even pineapple itself.
I keep trying to give you tips about pineapple juice,
but you just don't take them.
What's the tips?
You know the tip.
Don't make me say it in front of these people.
No.
You put the tip of your dick in pineapple juice.
Jefferson.
And then the tip of your dick tastes good.
Yeah, yeah.
Who the hell's eat all?
Who would be interested in the taste of, okay.
I just did the same joke twice.
That's how you get two laughs, dude.
Can we get back to my, the egg?
Yes, I'm so sorry.
Mitch, you couldn't have come up at a worst time.
I was talking about an egg.
You were about to open up about your breakfast.
I'm going to talk about an egg anxiety.
You ever get this egg anxiety where you pop the yolk.
Oh, yeah.
It's going everywhere.
We want to know your egg anxieties.
The yokes flowed all over the plate.
This is great.
it's getting the hash browns.
Just all of it's on me.
And you got your toast and you're dipping and you're putting stuff.
Do you ever get that thing like, man, I might run out of toast before I get all this yoke up?
No.
Tim, no?
I do.
Never crossed my mind once.
It keeps me up at night.
So that's all I think about running out of toast.
Folks, what are we?
We got egg anxiety out there.
Wow, not a lot of, not big on this egg anxiety.
There might be people that are worried they're going to run out of yoke and have a bunch of toast less.
Yeah, the reverse.
You worry more about that?
Interesting.
Imagine being stuck with...
Everyone here is petrified.
You're stuck with dry crusts after all that.
Yeah, that's no good.
You're like, I didn't budget out the good stuff nicely.
Egg anxiety and toast turmoil.
It's a mess of breakfast.
Mike, you and I also like to save the best bites for last.
Save the best for last.
What is that?
Save the best for last.
Yeah, that's a good.
Yeah, what is that?
Sometimes the sun goes round.
the moon
just when I thought the best
had passed
Dutts and Mike save the best
bite of breakfast for last
Thank you
beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. I'm going to say
Amy Grant, but I think I'm wrong.
Who is that? Does anyone know? Houston?
Vanessa Williams. Of course.
Wonderful Vanessa Williams.
Every single, speaking of saving
the best for last is I've watched,
I should have been taking pictures every time, but every single meal we've had on tour, two weeks.
Eggs?
No.
Breakfast tends to be eggish.
But every time when there's my, I eat slowly because I'm talking too much.
Mike eats at a normal pace.
And Jeff cleans his plate really fast and then goes, oh.
It's insane.
It's like so fast.
We've even thought of like he should order first.
His comes and then Tim and I order.
so we end at the same time.
He, like, it's funny, though, because you're not a foodie.
You don't care about the food.
You just want it off the plate.
Couldn't give a shit about the food.
You're eating it.
You're eating it to try to get it away.
Yeah.
Off the plate.
You don't want it there.
You don't look at it.
My body needs calories, and I'm getting that data, right?
And I'm like, better get that food.
It does feel like depression area eating where you're just like,
I got to get it away before someone takes it from me.
I do have that on sets, too, where.
Or any time there's free food, like a wedding or functional or something like that, I'm like, well, I got to just have as much as I, I got to eat until it hurts.
Yeah.
Well, I was the same.
Still, I'm the same way most of the time.
But yeah, any, excuse me.
Oh, boy.
Let's add that out, meal.
That's the death burp.
Your last burp.
Just as a skull shape of a cloud comes out.
Look, I'll quit.
Get the skull and put it back in his body.
No, let him go.
He's good.
we're talking about egg anxiety
go free food and eat
free food I feel like I've just
this past year I said to myself
Mike when you're stop
eating when you're done not when it's
done right when you just when you feel
like you've had enough you don't have to eat everything
on the plate sometimes these restaurants make
giant putteens
and I didn't finish but my grown up thing
is that when you're at an event and there's open
bar
Tim
you don't have to
make the venue regret that.
You don't have to walk out of that event thinking, you know, they lost money on me.
Yeah.
Leave the Camelback Water solution in the car.
But there was a time, I remember being at a friend's wedding when I was 26, and at that point,
no, had no money.
So if any, he's an open bar, I would just say, you know, like, yes to everything I could have.
Were we at that wedding as well?
No.
Okay.
This was downtown at the L.A. Athletic Club, you know, that kind of old school.
We're probably there anyway doing lifts and heads and things.
Car wheels, tumbles, that type of stuff.
Reps, sets.
Reps, sets, and helping.
But the table I was sitting with, the people, everyone actually laughed at me, and it was a learning moment because we had the cocktail hour.
You walk in, they're passing cocktails, and I was like, I'll take one of those.
Then there's the bar, I go up to a bar, I get a cocktail, I sit down, then there's someone
walking around pouring wine saying, white or red.
I said red.
Then somebody comes by with shampoo.
Sir, would you like champagne?
I had a wall of drinks and drinking for me.
Sir, would you like champagne?
I go, yes.
And then 10 people at my table all laughed.
And I was like, oh, I'm hidden behind a fortress of cocktails already.
I mean, that's a metaphor like crazy right there.
Building up a wall made of alcohol.
I yeah.
This is interesting stuff.
You got to tell Heather about that.
I know.
I haven't talked to her the two weeks we've been on the road here.
Heather's my therapist, but Mike is in touch with her quote.
I get, yeah, I get a call.
Right after your session, she calls me.
You're the proxy.
We debrief.
I say, no, some of this is normal stuff.
Yeah, that's not really that normal.
But, like, she's like, she's like, I'm a fucking nut.
And you're like, no, calm, hey, we don't use that word.
Heather, Heather.
Yeah.
I get a lot of fights with my therapist.
You, son of a bitch.
I'm down to the grenadine.
It's too much.
It's too sweet.
Oh, interesting.
Is it roses?
It's good.
It's just like, come on.
I'm not there.
Yeah. I would give anything to be you.
You'll get there.
Thank you.
Be patient. You'll get there.
Slow and steady.
That's very good.
I have this tour has been fantastic.
I only have one regret.
One thing that didn't happen for me.
Regrets from the road.
I was going to take this to the grave, but instead I'm going to spill my guts.
Wow.
Pretty good.
So the first night of the tour, we kicked it off in Nashville.
Yes.
And I had on that night, I had a moment to myself.
I went down to Broadway.
way. I found out that that's where
the Hawk tour
was interviewed. Yes, yes. And I took a picture
I interviewed.
I don't know if anyone is a fan of
journalism here. She's head down
with the top journalist in the country. It was a very
compelling interview to me.
You know she spits on that thing.
Yeah, I heard the interview. I read the transcript
of the interview.
So I
was really excited to be standing in the same spot
as her. I recreated the picture. I was
very pleased with my
I'm on tour and I've been in a real glonky guy zone.
I've been watching glonky guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Does anybody know the YouTube video?
Who?
Oh, yeah.
Just basically, it's an old YouTube video where some man on the street walks up to a random guy
and he's like, hey, do you know these song lyrics type of thing?
But he's like, hey, how are you doing?
And the guy's like, oh, I'm glonky.
And I'm doing okay.
And he said he was glonky.
He's still as a good guy.
Now, that guy, since then, stabbingy.
his mom and went to prison.
Don't worry about that.
We're not, I mean, I'm worried.
She lived.
She did?
And the justice system worked.
He's in prison.
That makes it a lot.
I didn't know who she lived.
That's great.
Right.
And when he finishes paying his time,
she'll be better.
Here's the thing.
So, forget all.
Back to the fun part.
Ha-ha.
Manki guys.
Oh, okay.
Midway through the tour,
I'm in the van.
I'm like,
Hmm.
Glocky guy's probably my favorite
of all the of all the internet
And you knew you knew the dark
But
I knew the dark and I forgave him
Yeah
But
I'm sorry
I've forgiven this in my heart
You're just saying that clip
You're like that clip
He's my I would say
And then I was thinking about
Hock Tua and Glocki
And all the interviews of the world
I said oh wait
I wonder where
Glonky guy is from
And I wonder where the Glocki guy
interview happened
I fucking Google
I'm sitting in the van
with these guys, they're talking.
They don't, oh, hey, look at the road.
So wait a minute.
Dr. Wiley didn't make Mega Man.
I, we were driving from Chicago.
This is one of these, this is how you know God exists.
We're driving down from Chicago to Indianapolis.
I Google it, glonky guys from Indianapolis.
Wow.
Blanky guy interview happened in in downtown Indianapolis.
Did you go to that spot?
That was my whole plan was to steal away from you guys,
eat that famous trim cocktail I wanted.
Yeah, right, right.
And then I was going to recreate the Glonkey video.
I ran out of time.
Damn.
I didn't get to do it.
And I haven't slept since.
And basically, my life has been a failure in a way.
No, I wouldn't say that.
You're looking great.
We just covered that.
And also, you can make time
to go copy the glonky guy
at some other time and, you know.
Yeah.
Now, how weird would that be
if I took time out of my normal life
to fly to Indianapolis?
Yeah.
Probably the only guy
to ever go to Indianapolis
on vacation.
Yeah.
And then recreate that video
and then I send it to you guys
as novel as it would be,
you'd be like, are you okay?
I don't know.
Yeah, Tim's being kind of glong.
I would call up your local...
I hope he doesn't recreate all of glonky.
monkey guy's actions.
Might have to warn Donna about that.
He's just going back to the shrimp real quick.
Shrimp is something that if it's an open
buffet or something, you will find me there
eating a lot of those things.
Chomping them.
Shrimp is, I go nuts.
It's like, we don't get these all lot.
It's good.
Yeah, and you feel a pressure,
but it's weird if it's like a buffet
where it's peel and eat.
What was that?
Under pressure.
Under pressure.
Oh, yeah.
Um, it was just so accurate that I, uh, but no, uh, I agree.
Sometimes I'm peeling.
Um, it's, it's, I feel like I should be getting paid because I'm doing so much
pealing.
I'm doing so I'll go to like, the brighter groom, but they're usually busy.
So I'll go to like the whoever's sort of the wedding, uh, organized.
I'm like, hey, I've been doing a lot of work here.
Uh, can I at least get my present back?
I mean, I don't have it with me yet.
I, I have a year.
I have a year.
So I'm not going to get you anything.
Yeah, Mike had to peel his own shrimp, and he ate so many.
Too many!
You're not going to get a present.
And sorry, I couldn't find any button up or pants.
I only had shorts.
Well, we're getting some booze news now, finally.
Do we want to?
Hit it out.
Something gross.
Check it out.
Something gross.
Check it.
Check it.
I got a bottle of clam juice.
Tim, I wish you didn't show me that.
Oh, don't show me that.
And then the sip.
Does it smell rotten?
That's tough to cake.
And then the sip.
Could have gone bad.
Stop that.
Does it smell rotten?
Stop that.
I've seen you eat.
Ham kidneys.
Jefferson.
milkshaky grass.
Grass off of
kidneys
Klan milk shake
Oh God
Probably warm
Toos in the fridge
God damn
Probably warm to or it was in the fridge
Fuck my life
Probably warm to
Mike
I want to go puke
Zwaastiklam was sent to us
by Tom Hand
And if you have a booze news theme email
It's the Sloppy Boys podcast at G1
I will once I finally finish it. Nice, Tom Hand. Once you get online, I'm going to email you. The whole
catalog I'm working on. Tom Hand, he's put a few in recently. He's good. He does some good work.
Yeah, the hand man. We're starting to call him the hand man. Do you like that? No, your thing was-
We love the hand man. Yeah, every time he hears that he gets excited and then he hears the D and goes,
that's not me. That guy's coming for the crown. I think that we referred at when a
Tom Hand makes a song we say
That was a hand job
You were trying to get that going
But we thought it was improper
Well yeah
That'll happen
It is so funny when you know
We say a lot of dumb stuff on the pot
Here in the pod here in the web
But you know usually it's just dumb
And you hear it once go as dumb and it goes away
But when you hear it repeated with a beat
You're like damn they really
That's
Damn why they say that
I didn't have said that
In context
Very funny that
Just we were talking about
Peel and eat shrimp
and then went to a clam song.
That's one of these interesting.
I see sort of a, no.
Shellfish.
Shellfish.
Shelfish.
Shelfish.
Could be a shellfish theme show.
Clam juice is what?
The Caesar?
The Caesar?
Oh, yeah.
When we had Stefan from Pub on,
I took some clam juice straight to the dome
and I didn't like it.
Yeah, I bet.
And this guy likes everything, bro.
I once saw him eat lamb kidney
and drink a grasshopper
at a steak restaurant
you don't want organs and cream
you know a creamy
minty
creamy drink is good just by itself I can't do it
with like a meal or anything
I completely agree and I'll never make that mistake
ever again I promise
folks are going to hold them to it
okay so for booze news
we're going to do the thing
return to one of our favorite
things to do on the road which is
booze news cues for you
and we're going to take
advantage of the fact we're out here meeting the people we're pounding the pavement we want to learn
about the culture now we said to ourselves hey we're in michigan are we not we're
we said all you can't if you're in uh brooklyn or los feel is you can't even lock down the street
without hearing hey people in michigan love verner's ginger ale they love i'm trying to i'm in the
library trying to study hey verners is popular in michigan sure even if you google it you're
You're like, is Vernis popular in Michigan?
It says, yeah.
You ask AI, and it's like, absolutely, man.
We would ask the real people.
Well, we actually can't.
They do sell it at Albertsons in Los Angeles.
So, like, we've had it and stuff.
But I want to know as far as, like, you guys are the Michiganians.
Michiganians?
Ganders.
Ganders?
Michiganers.
Take a gander.
With the D.
Ganderers?
Mm-hmm.
I like that.
it's like you're taking a ganderat misha
no so I want to know
like Vernor's is delicious
don't get me wrong
but I also think other ginger ale
the normal style to me is delicious
but I want to hear from you guys
Vernors or normal
let's hear it for Vernors
let's hear it for normal
normal
Whoa
One real proud
Normal enjoyer
Right up front
Normal
Of Vernors or
Canada dry
Vernors
Yeah
Canada to dry
Damn
This is a
Inverner's
A state
Shit
Seagrams or Schwebs
Seagrams
Swebs
Who
Femps
Furnter
Furner
Yeah
That was kind of interesting that Schwepps does have a following.
We learned something here.
Michiganers love Vernors.
It's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
If you don't know what Schwebs is.
Yeah, give me Schwebs.
Damn.
Well, that's going to be, like, if I'm ever invited to a Christmas party in Michigan,
I figure everyone's bringing burners, I'm going to bring the Schwebs.
I'm like, thank you, Tim.
You know, it's not going to steal the night.
It's not going to be.
the best gift we get, but it's useful.
Hey, what's the actual booze news, please?
That was it.
That's booze news?
Wrap it up.
What's the actual booze news, please, he said.
What? That was the actual booze.
I mean, that's going to be front page news tomorrow that we just...
Well, here's people like verters.
What's the actual boo? That's the booze. That's wrap it up.
There it goes.
Bye, booze news.
Bye.
See you later.
Sorry we flushed you down to hell.
Hell, now we turn our attention to the drink of the day.
It's a fun one.
It's a fun one today.
It's an exciting one, too.
Very exciting.
The 1439.
You've had?
Nice.
Well, I was led to believe that you all
All had and y'all loved it.
Boys, you've had?
Had not or heard.
Had not or heard.
I've had.
I've had.
You've had?
I had it at Cafe DeMongos.
Woo!
They don't even...
They don't even...
They're not.
Tim, they didn't even know to cheer.
Disgusting.
Damn.
1439, invented at Cafe de Mongo, a Detroit institution.
Building used to be a Greek restaurant.
back in 1920.
They should turn it back and back.
Yeah, they should put it back.
Biggest mistake they ever made.
In 1985, purchased by Larry Mongo.
So DeMongo is de apostrophe Mongo of Mungo.
Right, right, right.
Now, you would know Mongo is it's the way that you skateboard.
Yeah, there's Goofy foot is one and Mongo is another one.
I think, or if you push with your front foot, that's Mongo.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
you push back foot and then mongo is like they it looks fun you've got you've got more of the board
in front of it yes so then what's goofy foot goofy foot is when you uh i think that's when you're
skateboarding and you say gorse goersh yeah if you go down a hill too fast you go woo then you know
that guy's goofy well it was many restaurants cafe joseph wax fruit rhythm cafe there's many
with performances by a young Eminem and a young kid rock.
Boo.
And it became Cafe de Mongo speakeasy in 2007.
That's kind of cool.
It's a speakey's a small spot.
The drink, 1439, not a year.
It's an address.
1439 Griswold Street.
Let's hear it for Griswold Street.
I want to make a National Ampoon's vacation joke, but I don't.
Don't.
Okay.
Do not. I mean, that is...
That's plagiarism is in the worst form.
Well, two storied drinks came out of Cafe de Mungo, one of them, the 1439, we'll talk about
in a second. Also, Detroit Brown. Have you heard of that? Have you at least heard of that one?
What's that?
Crown Royal Angostura Bitters and Vernors.
Oh, now you're paying attention. Jesus Christ.
We've been thinking about, we've been trying to think of some holiday theme or holiday vibe.
drinks. That feels like a big holiday.
But that's a story for another day.
For another.
Look at this just so that I can brag.
Sure.
When I went with my friend Ben, our friend Ben, to this cafe, I had both of these drinks and
take a look, they've served them to be in plastic cups.
I love that.
Interesting.
You're a bar getting a clear plastic Dixie Cup.
I don't, I wouldn't think clear plastic Dixie cups in a speakeasy.
Right.
Man, that's why because the cops might raid at any moment.
So you got a, huh.
Yeah.
So you got a,
huh,
huh.
Well,
you want to know how we make it?
Yes.
Yours.
The recipe,
two ounces,
Captain Morgan spiced rum.
Four ounces,
let's say.
You could top it up.
Top it up.
Top it up.
Fago rock and rye.
I've never had Fago in my whole life.
I'd never had it either.
I don't think I've ever been in.
in a place to buy, or I mean, other than here.
I remember I, the year is 2000.
Ooh, the turn of the millennium.
I'm still in high school, a junior.
Excuse me, what was the homework?
I have a VHS of Woodstock 99.
Oh, boy.
And for the first time, I saw Violent J and Shaggy Too Dope
punting two-liter bottles of something into the crowd.
They're fizzing everywhere, people are getting wet and sticky, but they're loving it.
Okay.
And my friend was like, that's Fago.
And I was like, insane clown posse has their own proprietary, two-eater soda bottles.
And they're like, no, it's a regional thing.
It's a regional thing.
So that's my first exposure to Fago back in 2000.
Fago now offers, they started with like cola, root beer, orange, stuff like this.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
I get it.
I love it.
But then, you know, it might get a little weird.
You might see a little cotton candy, a little jolly green apple, a little candy apple.
When are these coming out, do you think?
Like, is this in the 2000s or...
It started way, way back in...
Just because I think of those types of flavors, like, once...
You're 2000.
Yeah, yeah.
The Faginson brothers, Faginson...
So now I'm seeing where the name comes.
Got together in 1907 and started this.
They turned it into Fago in 1921.
Ooh, spooky.
The power went out.
Well, some lighting.
Okay.
Not on stage, but...
Oh, yeah, these are running on generator.
But the crazier flavors red pop, bubble pop, super pop, firework, gold.
Gold is just ginger ale with like ginger ale plus.
Because they also have ginger ale, but gold is ginger ale with like a little more or something.
What about verdict?
It's like virgins.
Wait, what's fire work?
Rocket Pop.
All three flavors mixed together.
Yeah.
It sort of looks like the...
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
That's going to be a nostalgic taste for me.
This is, this is, I'm guessing these are very sweet, almost like juice drinks.
They seem crazy, too candy-ish for me.
Yeah.
We're going to be using Fago Rock and Rye, which is named for rock candy and rye whiskey.
How about that?
Yeah.
is it alcoholic the rock and rye it's not interesting but that was the flavor profile i guess they were
originally going for i i've looked this one up before uh and talked about on pod briefly because
rock and rye i saw like in a liquor store uh that you know i love a liquor store that has like
some empty shelves so there's like a dusty old bottle that's been there forever yeah some leached
uh the label's looking all like bleached and blue i'm the opposite i like brand new product
Well, I was at Hillhurst Lickers, and there was, like, all the Hiram Walker and Dekkeye schnops and stuff.
And then there was a old dusty one, and it was rock and rye.
This did have alcohol, but I looked up, it's like, there used to be a cocktail that was rye whiskey and rock candy.
So then the, but then that flavor became then like a liqueur and then now like a soda.
But there's people that are like, I love rye whiskey with specifically rock.
Rock candy is an ingredient in some tiki.
Like rock candy syrup.
I've seen people use rock candy for a stir.
Yeah, that's cool.
That's baller.
That's baller.
I've seen people take rock candy and eat it.
Eat it.
Yeah, kids.
Eat that.
Yeah.
Well, in 2014, Larry Mungo himself posted to Facebook.
Thank you everyone for popping in last night.
Special thanks to Quentin Tarantino.
What a swell guy.
He likes the 1439.
Shout out to Fago.
Nice.
Hell, yeah.
Nice.
So us and Quinn, just sipping on that.
1439.
Sip on that thing.
I have to look at that number every time I say it.
I know.
It doesn't make me think of anything.
1439?
It's an address.
No, I know, but it's not like it doesn't,
I'm not thinking of a year.
I'm not thinking of a.
Well, just think of picture.
Imagine this.
Just sorry.
Imagine you're at the 1,400 block of a street in a city.
I'm just 39 doors down.
Okay.
Now you get a visual, yeah.
Well, I wish he had like a, you know, like 1738, like Fettywop.
Fettiewap.
Fettiewap had 1738.
I'm going to remember that till the day I die.
That's a catchy number, man.
Now, if we did a parody of Trap Queen and we said 1439, do you think it will go hugely viral?
100% yes.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
That's cool.
Folks.
This cafe, though, has anyone ever been to this place?
This is, it's amazing.
It's, uh, as much character, you know, surroundings of substance.
I like that.
I like that.
This is like the vibe of, it's like a jazz bar, blues bar type of thing, lots of pictures on the wall, lots of stories.
Bartenders kind of razz in you.
You heard about the plastic cups for Christ's sake.
Right.
You know, if I'm not in the mood for a razzing, it really turns me off.
Really?
You know, like, but I love to, if I'm in the mood, I like to get it and give it back.
Well, you don't have to give it back.
They don't...
I do, though.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, what do you want to drink, Roy Rogers?
Why do you shut the fuck up?
That's me kind of going back and forth.
Yeah, they like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like general rousing if someone's kind of,
of a waiter is kind of fucking with me in a light way that's not personal.
But if they get personal, you know, I've had a waiter put down my food and say,
I'm happy the birthday boy's show is canceled by IFC.
Oh, that cuts deep.
And I'm like, Ed DeBevick, you think that?
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, when I go to a restaurant and I stand up and say,
where's the fuckhead that forgot my fries?
That's frowned upon?
Well, don't forget the fries then, fuckhead.
Are you been standing, this is something we got to get away from.
You've been just standing up to order, too.
Reuben Rye side of fries
That's it
Just to be heard
All right folks
You want to make this drink
Yes
Do you want to drink it all together
In our honorary first sips
When we come back from the break
We'll be right back
With more sloppy boys
We'll be right back with more sloppy boys
Oh, folks, and we're bad!
We're going to make these, we're going to build these, oh God, 1439s.
Right, 1439s, that is correct.
We're going to build them live.
Now, who out in the audience tonight already has one in hand?
Hell yeah.
Oh, my God.
in the proper clear plastic cup
and everything.
They sprung for the proper
plastic clear cup.
Damn.
Oh, look at us.
We have fancy glasses.
Oh, fuck.
Tim, when I see a glass like that,
I gotta ice it up.
I see up real good.
Right to the top, baby.
Oh, and they got us
fancy look Sardo cherry.
That's nice.
I didn't realize the cherry
was going to be part of it.
This is going to be very good.
This is going to be very exciting.
I'm going to try a little of the rock and ride
just on its own.
Thank you, Jeffrey, for the ice.
It'll add the coolest to my drink I so desire.
I am going to try and do like an actual two ounces and not just freewheel it.
Hmm, I don't love that.
You don't love it?
Talk us through the taste.
The taste is like, I can't tell.
Let me try it again.
You know, it kind of tastes like a cherry soda with like a little vanilla, like a sweet, a fake sweet vanillay thing.
Kind of, to me, to me.
But you're not a fan.
You like vanilla, no?
I think it's too, I do like vanilla, and I do like cherries.
And I even like them mixed together.
But this feels like it's a little too fake flavory.
So you were reaching for this 10-cent can of soda.
These were 10 cents?
Probably.
And you were getting ready for a, like, a sort of farm-to-table table-takes.
I was looking for something that is take me back to the old country.
You think Violin J and Shaggy Too Dope are?
are kicking out farm-to-table sodas?
That's good for me.
I think that's, I mean, that's the reason for the local pride is,
is it is just, it's like the cheap local soda.
Gotcha.
And then there's, it's, it's not like it's, this is a premium artisan blimp.
But, but I think the, uh, the sweetness and the, like, syrupyness.
Ooh, and that's the fakesst red I've ever seen.
Okay.
That's good.
Damn.
That's the type of red that, like, doesn't exist in the world.
No, and if you put, like, one little drop of this in a whole pot of soup, it would turn around.
Ooh, you know what you have in that red suit?
Yeah, give me a tomato zoo.
Oh, yeah, I'll take a little cherry.
If you showed this to a settler, they'd burn you alive.
Now, I top this up pretty heavy because I wanted to, you know, not just only be tasting the Captain Morgan, but that looks like a good kind of a high ball in a low ball glass of mount.
Cheers to you.
Cheers.
Oh, man.
To the 1439?
And to everyone out there drinking with us.
First Zips, folks, let's give it a shot.
First Zips, join us.
Yes.
Mm.
Yes.
You know, I feel like I'm at a carnival.
A carnival of taste?
A carnival, parentheses, complimentary.
It tastes like, it tastes cotton candy-ish to me.
Maybe it's just because you mentioned that there was a cotton candy soda.
And, like, also the, God, what's it called?
like this one of them was called like super pop yeah super pop super pop that's the kind of music dutts does
i'd say yeah thank you dude um there the description on the fago website was just like
michigander's favorite ice cream and i was like now i got to google that you you poor thing
but like just give it to me this guy was googling his fingers down to the bone i googled twice now
Are you familiar with Superman ice cream?
Yes, I have it every morning.
Just trying to fit in here.
That's a Midwest thing, right?
It's a Midwest thing.
So Superman flavored ice cream is like cherry vanilla and cotton candy.
Is that right, basically?
Wow.
No, we're hearing.
No, yes.
It's largely blue, right?
It's blue.
Not in like his outfit.
Yeah.
Just red-trimming the little yellow.
yellow on this, the crest.
Well, anyway, so that soda is a take on that ice cream, whatever flavor it tries to be.
This one, the rock and rye.
But my point is, I feel like half of Fago's offerings have a little touch of cotton candy.
I agree.
This tastes, when you, once mixed together, you know, there's a synergy that happens with
rum and coke that kind of creates a vanilla effect.
It's a warm vanilla.
That's happening here, but also like this soda, yeah.
When you take a sip of it, you're right about the cotton candy.
Yeah.
But cotton candy is just sugar.
I guess how different is rock candy than cotton to cotton candy?
That's it.
Our reference point for what sugar tastes like is just cotton candy because we don't
eat straight sugar any other times.
Speak for yourself, dude.
I had a, um, I've maybe never taken sugar straight to the dome in my whole life.
You never have?
You never eaten a sugar cube?
I don't think so.
What?
Wait, wait.
You know that as a kid just ate a sugar packet because why the hell not?
No, and I'm the type who would, but I don't think I...
That's what I'm thinking. Wow.
I'm thinking like I make my coffee.
I put sugar in it. I've never just sipped it.
To the dome.
These are the type of things make me feel like my life is incomplete, you know?
That's a bucketless item. I don't know if I'll ever get to pull it off.
Here's what you do. Take a flight out to Indy, get that picture, eat a sugar cube.
Okay, so now the trip has to be too.
Nice.
Glonky Day and sugar day.
Yeah, you got to track down that cube.
This is good.
This is a good use of your time.
Also, if you want to get into it, there's all sorts of different sugars.
Sugar is different from powdered sugar.
It's different from corn syrup.
It's different from a thing called invert sugar.
I know this because I worked in a candy.
Raw sugar too is something different, like the coffee raw sugar.
The brown sugar in the raw.
That's just like turbinato cane sugar.
But like, uh, turbanato.
That's what they call.
Oh, call me Mike Turbinato.
That's good.
Why do they call him Mike Turbinato?
Because his friend once said Turbinato.
He liked the sound of that.
Rock candy is more sugar to water ratio.
That's why it's like that.
Interesting.
Have you ever made, I can't remember who we're talking about it.
You guys ever made cotton candy around in the thing that it's like, it's in this big,
almost looks like a, it looks like a dryer or a washer.
Yeah, yeah, like a, I like an old.
old tub, like an old bathtub.
He'd flip upside out and stick a play a
stand-up base. Anyway, you
take the cones and you just go round
around and just builds on it, builds on it,
you got a whole big thing. Big as you
want, small as you want. I saw it, I saw
online on Instagram. As small as
you want? As small as you want. You don't even
have to put it in there if you don't want.
Oh, Loma. Papa,
here I have the smallest one.
You can have this.
You think you get the first one.
You're getting a big one, fuckhead.
Oh, fuck.
Fuck you.
I saw on Instagram a cotton candy artist.
He did beautiful work.
Artist.
It's worth looking at.
So he's sculpting like the David out of it and stuff?
No, he's just kind of doing more and more layers.
It's not that.
It's one of these things you see.
You're like, that's cool.
You're taking a lot of time to make these.
Why are you doing this?
Why are you doing this?
Now, I have definitely eaten powdered sugar straight to the dome because that's unavoidable.
Happens a lot.
And it tastes different.
That's not unavoidable.
You can avoid eating sugar.
No, but you eat a pastry.
It's on your fingers.
You lick them.
I know what that tastes late.
But you're saying that's a different taste than granular.
I think it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's sweet.
I was trying to get my Indiana trip down to one night.
Fuck.
It's an infectious confection.
I already know what I'm doing around two, but let's not get into that.
You know what I like this is it's reminiscent.
of the calpi cordial
and that it's a warm taste
and I would say that I maybe
went a little bit nuts
with the soda here when I was topping us up
but I feel like if it was a little bit stronger
if it was a lot stronger
like I could see this being sort of like
an old fashioned type of a drink
you make for your family around the holidays it's red
garnish it with something green
finally mom is proud of her son Tim
because he did something cozy
yeah totally
And also, we're getting towards Soco.
You know, Soco's got more spices maybe.
Yeah.
But like the fruity, sweety version of like an old fashion.
Yeah.
Mike, I did catch you dripping some Luxardo juice into your already too sweet cocktail.
Yeah, I was just trying to get a different taste.
Can you just walk me through your thinking?
Ah, just trying to mix it up a little bit.
Just trying to, really just trying to go unnoticed.
That was your way of blending in.
I don't want anyone to look at me.
I don't feel like being perceived.
I think this would,
what could you add to it that would give it more of a vanilla flavor?
Because it's like...
Oh, vanilla would be great.
Vanilla?
Yeah, vanilla extract.
Vanilla bean.
But like, I'm sipping it.
My tongue is going, wait, are we getting vanilla, Mike?
I'm saying, buddy, I don't think so, but we're close.
You're not doing anything wrong tongue.
You're great.
When I had to look with my tongue, we agreed we're getting
vanilla, and then we were thinking, like, maybe you would add an in-perseller, a sour element,
not all the way to tasting it, but like a squeeze of lime or a squeeze of lemon to, to
bounce, to kind of push it back to center.
How about this?
That's what you're detecting?
That's what you and your tongue are detecting?
We were conferring.
Okay.
I think what it might be is not actually any fruit at all, but like one small pinch of the
cheapest citric acid powder you could buy.
Oh, that's already in there.
Yeah.
I'm saying, oh, we have, at home, we have citric acid left over from when we made acid-adjusted orange juice.
Yes.
If I, if I put some of that in this, I wouldn't be bringing a new flavor to the table, but I'd be stiffening, I'd be, I'd be drying it up a little bit, you know, because it's so sweet.
You'd be balancing the books.
I'd be balancing the books.
I'll bring these in to Elise Benora, my accountant, and I'll say, is this balanced?
And she's like, Tim, the IRS is coming for you.
We got to talk about that.
I'll say, weigh in on the drink.
You didn't pack your bags?
The cops are coming to bring you to jail.
You don't get to bring your bags to jail.
You get one.
You get one bag.
I mean, I would love jail if I got to bring on my stuff.
I'll bring my PS5.
You don't have a PS5, Tim.
And I wish you had one.
I wish you had one.
In the reality of my bit, though, I'm a gamer.
I'm a big time gamer.
drinking this
Fago, like, oh, let me
ask the crowd. Verner's or
Fago. Verner's?
Fego.
Some love for Fago. It felt like
less Fago people, but they were more
enthusiastic. Yes, I thought so too.
But that's also a weird question because there's so many
different varieties. Okay, here's a question.
I see P in saying clown posse.
You
legitimately like them or
ironically appreciate them
sort of you give it up now.
No, no, hold on, hold on.
Number one.
That was awful. That was our fault.
Number one, you legitimately always liked them.
Okay, we got one, woo-boo-woo.
Number two, like you begrudgingly appreciate them now 20 years later.
Okay.
I get that.
Nice.
Yeah, I think I'm in that camp, too.
A well-done ball.
A well-executed poll.
Polls are tough, man.
Final choice.
You're sick of people from out-of-town
coming to town and just talking about ICP all the time.
Tim, you can't call me up for that shit.
Every city we go, you drop fucking five local references.
This crowd's not going to like the quiz.
Here's my thing.
I'll say this.
Insane clown bossy.
I respect them.
I think they're good musicians.
This isn't true.
Well, think about this.
You stop here right there.
Think about this way.
Violin J. Shaggy Tudow, both great musicians, put them together.
What's not to like?
Okay.
My only thing is this.
I think they're great.
Their music is great.
I don't like that other group that's a lot like them.
You know, the mental maniac group?
Do you know them?
Is that real?
Jeff, do you know the mental maniac group?
Oh, I thought you were going to do like a, like a kooky, like a fake insane clap.
Because I get one.
No, no, no. It's a real group. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, this is, I know I haven't heard of them.
Um, so anyway. I can't believe I've never heard of him.
Can you believe Jeff's never heard of him? I can't believe anything right now.
I'm just saying rings a bell.
Wait, my boss, who has never heard of the Mental Maniac Group?
Woo!
Okay, well, um, then I brought a track.
Okay, I haven't heard of these guys.
These guys, look, if you're if you're an I-CP, yeah.
After listening to Mental Maniac Group,
You're going to think ICP is fucking Beethoven, dude.
Mental Maniac group, they're not good.
You remind me of a little, yeah, yeah.
Well, for anyone who doesn't know, Jeff, play that MP3 that I just emailed you.
Yeah, there we go.
The Mental Maniac Group.
Here we go.
We do all kinds of twisted shit.
Everything we do is so fucked up.
You're a fucking crazy fucking nightmare.
Oh my God.
Oh my fucking God.
The other day I killed a guy.
Then I went to a funeral and I crawled down into the grave
and I was doing all kinds of twisted, fucked up shit down there.
The other day I went to my mom's house and I completely did.
all kinds of twisted things with my mom.
She was into it too, you know.
Oh, God.
When I hear that story, I don't even think it's even bad at all.
No, not at all.
When you said the thing about the funeral guy,
I thought that was boring, boring.
That's how normal it was to me.
Oh shit, then I fucked up.
I was trying to impress you.
The fact that I didn't makes me sad.
I feel like a disappointment.
But the thing is, I'm so fucked up.
I've got all kinds of nasty ideas in my head.
But I gotta be honest.
I think magnets are a miracle.
Yeah, me do.
I completely fucking.
Agree on that.
I went to a number of women's groups and said,
can you help us find folks?
And they brought us a whole binders full of women.
Binders, binders, binders, binders, binders, binders, binders.
They're part of it's bad, it's bad.
It's not great.
It's not great.
Sonically, I like it.
Sonically, I do like it.
Yeah.
Oh, well, because you're into production and stuff.
And I like, burp, burp, burr, that sort of stuff.
They, I remember this group now.
They were on a little thrill in Dr. Benedicto's label.
They opened for them.
They suck.
The whole label sucks.
Everything sucks over there.
The whole thing went down.
I'd say good ridden.
I don't even care.
No one would care.
Nobody would know about it.
That's wild, though.
I do understand what Jeff's saying.
The production is good.
Musically, it's very good.
Sonically, it's good.
Sonically, it's good.
Sonically intriguing.
The lyric is like, it's a songwriting and it's a lyric thing for me.
And I don't like their presence on the mic.
Like one guy's like, like, oh, I'm a little fucked up.
And then there I was like, I'm a little fucked up too.
Like Benedicto and a little thrill would do that too.
I don't know.
They all do that.
Get out of here with that shit, man.
But it is interesting.
I don't know if you heard.
They said that they think magnets are a miracle.
Which ICP also agrees with.
So there's something in these types of groups.
You guys are going to ace this ICP quiz, man.
Yeah.
I don't even know if I've heard of that yet.
We'll see.
Y'all have a lot to answer for for this, what is it,
megalomaniac group?
Mental maniac group.
Mental maniac group.
I can't believe you guys all like that stuff.
They like it.
They like Vernes and not.
Mental maniac.
Unbelievable.
You guys love that.
I saw you guys.
We were sitting up here being like,
this sucks.
You guys were getting down.
I saw people.
I'm going to shake my group thing, honey.
okay fine people were out there grinding on each other and I was like that's kind of nasty
and they're like we like that it's nasty dude all the fucking married couples in the audience
we're all whispering we're gonna make some new michiganders tonight oh shit yeah yeah oh nasty
I saw one one wife say husband why don't you pop a blue chew right now and he turned
back there he said you'll find out later give me 20 minutes and then check the center of
my crotch.
The center?
Dead center.
The asshole?
Then he leaned in and he said,
North of the balls.
North of the balls,
sound of the billy, but...
You'd hate to go down there
and get a false negative
because you didn't check the right area.
You gotta go north of the balls.
If the expedition turns up goose egg,
it's because you weren't feeling right
north of the ball.
I'm sure everyone's thinking about this.
It's like when Geraldo Rivera went into Al Capone's tune.
All that word.
Yep.
All the knocking down of all the bricks.
For nothing.
There's nothing down there.
What was that?
Did he just assume someone was down there?
It was like a TV event.
It was a, I don't, I feel like it was like a live network prime time event.
That's funny.
It seems to like on Fox or something when Fox was like, we need something.
to put on. But everybody was so excited
like he's going to open the tomb.
Either Geraldo's going to be
rich or open a portal
to hell or
nothing at all, which
that's how it went down. That's how it went down. It's sort of
like the David Blaine
those live magic shows. Remember that one?
Yeah. David Blaine was just like,
I'm going to not breathe for like
20 minutes.
Okay. Okay. We'll watch it.
We'll watch you do it. But you're in the pussypossi.
We'll watch whatever you do.
You don't have to do that, but we'll watch if you do.
And we'll make sure you don't get hurt.
How would you change a drink for round two, dudes?
For me, it's just a stiffer.
I want to try a rumier version of it.
Yeah, for sure.
Like maybe even, um...
50-50.
I was even going to go flip the ratio, like...
Four ounces of room.
I don't know, just like two ounces of Morgan and like an ounce of Fago.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that when you flip the ratio, they call that a good night, Jeffie.
We'll see.
I am going to just continue sipping my original.
Okay.
Because I, I guess, still got it.
How does it mix with DayQuil?
I don't know.
My tongue can't taste a thing.
I have been a tough time over here, but...
You must be tripping out, man.
I'm tripping, I'm trapping.
You got some DMT kicking around there, too, don't you?
Yeah, I tried it today.
First time.
Folks, we'll be right back with round two after there.
We're here for the beer
We're half on the beer
Let me make this perfect thing
Fucking play
We're back for round two
Now who got a fresh 1439 during the break
Oh nice we love them now right
Is it anyone's
is it does uh is this like something you guys anyone goes to like when they're at a bar like
yeah this is a drink a drink i always order or is it a freak drink it's kind of a freak drink
it's sort of a freak drink when you think about it you get it at the place that jeff
talked about you get that at cafe domongo yeah because they don't it's not like they have a
huge cocktail menu it's like they have like two is this something that wouldn't be like
you'd go into other bars in detroit or lansing or anywhere in michigan for that matter
any michigander type place where uh if you said that you said that you
You know, I want a 1439.
They'd say, yes, we know what that is.
It's the type of thing where your friend Tim reached out to the bar here.
He said, we want to do a drink called the Fango.
It's orange fago and two ounces of Angostura bitter.
Jesus Christ.
Wow.
Now, the venue is fantastic.
I was talking to Sarah.
She's great and everything, but she said no.
Well, like she said, no one's going to like that.
Well, she says, I understand Tim, that that was a.
viral sensation, but I, as the bar manager, don't want to be pouring two ounces of
bitters into every drink.
Oh, she doesn't want to be sitting there all night going,
I should have told her you can pop the, the, the, uh,
James Sarah, you can pop the top of it.
So, so they said no to the fango, fango.
And then we, we had an idea jam.
She was like, I love the idea of a, uh, a fago cocktail.
I said, how about the 1439?
at Cafe de Mongos, and she said, that's what I was going to pitch, was the 1430?
Oh, yeah.
Sarah coming in clutch.
Nice.
So it's a thing that a bar manager has heard of.
That's good.
That's good.
Ah, but has she been to DeMongos?
No.
That is the question.
The real question is, it's just cool.
We're in Michigan having a Fago cocktail.
It's nice.
It's damn nice.
I'll tell you what, too, as the ice, getting a little melty is helping me with the drink.
Yeah, I got to say it's round two, goosing it up, too.
It's rounding out that, not that sweet is too sharp of a taste, but it's kind of like dampening down the crazy sweet flavor.
And like, Tim, so you just put in another like ounce plus of Captain Morgan, right?
Yeah, I, uh, I, I, because I still had half of one.
Yeah.
So when I poured a bunch of rum and then I put a little bit more finger.
Sweet.
So I'm probably out of 50-50.
And this to me is like, yeah, if you're, this is more like it.
It's balanced.
Well, and this is just like it.
It tastes like a rum drink, and you didn't want to drink straight rum.
Ooh, folks, that's what you got to do.
I think the Captain Morgan's and soda mix is, I'm going to start looking into that a little more.
Well, it's not too dissimilar from the Hand Slamer, which has...
This is true.
Captain Morgan, but you're doing grapefruit, sparkling grapefruit soda.
That's true.
I forget what's in the Hanslam.
And Lyme and Orjat.
Oh, that's a good.
And also, Decerono, Decerono, because we doubled up the almond with Orjat and Decerot.
Yes, yes, yes.
And I learned, you know, I said that that was redundant to have both Amaretto and Orjat.
And then people said, no, Mike is layering the flavor, which is a very advanced technique.
He's very advanced in what he does.
A lot of his.
And then he forgot the recipe of his own drink.
He's very intentional about this.
His fuck-ups are pay off later, much later.
Yeah, Tim, you don't understand.
what Hanford's doing.
No, he's on a whole other level.
It's, yeah, sometimes.
Have you been in the test kitchen on anything recently?
No, not with drinks.
I've been making borsh.
I've been making cabbage soups at home.
And it's working out pretty good.
It doesn't take much to make a cabbage soup, I found.
Imagine you're sitting home with a big old purple bowl of borsh,
and then you pour yourself a drink that's a similar color,
like 1439.
And then Mike, want to come out?
Meet us at the club? No, I'm staying home
and having purple-y liquids.
No, I got to stay home and I'm a little worried
that my shit's turning purple.
Oh, Mike, we never see you at the club.
Oh, really? I never see you at the borsch barn.
We're all down there
slopping cabbage everywhere.
Well, as with every drink,
no matter how fascinating the story is,
fascinating. The drink needs to come down
sort of among the triumvirate
and be harshly adjudicated.
Yes. Is it an order
again, Michael?
What are your final thoughts?
I'm having a... Let me take a one or more sip.
Oh, my God. Look at that.
Wow.
Oh.
It's an O.A.
It's a.
It's a.
Enjoy this.
I am enjoying this.
I think the ice melting
tamped it down just enough.
I think this is a fun.
It's fun.
It's a fun one.
I think that that last sip was clutch.
For sure.
It aerated.
It really errated the...
You want to slurp.
You really want to slurp that thing.
Timothy.
Slurp all that thing.
Let me have one last sip.
It's an order again for me.
Hey.
I'll tell you why.
It's...
I wonder like there's the word cocktail
kind of a funny word is the first syllable
is kind of funny
and then the second syllable is funny
kind of a little bit
but when you're thinking more
in terms of a mixed drink right
right right let's say you're having people over
do you want a gin tonic
do you want vodka cranberry do you want
a Roman Coke whatever
if I'm saying do I want a Roman Coke
but if I lived in the beautiful
state of Michigan.
And it is beautiful.
They gotta give them that.
I would.
And this is,
it's not a summary drink
much more like a Calpi cordial.
I would drink this around the holidays
with those that I love.
And I'm gonna put some sort of green,
like pull off a little
branch of a pine tree and put it on one.
And then say,
Mom,
look at me.
I know I'm drinking at 9 a.m.
on Christmas morning.
But my drink is
attractive.
Is it not?
Yeah.
And she's going to be so proud of her little son.
You're like, and I'm not going to do everything the glonky guy did.
Yeah.
I know I'm drinking at 9.30, but I've got three little words that are going to smooth this out, mom.
I love you.
Oh.
Do whatever you want, son.
Drink.
My mom, drink the tree water if you want.
When I'm visiting home, when I stay at my parents' place, every morning my mom, she'll kind of open up my bedroom door looking and be like,
Tim, which aspect of the glonky guy's personality are you?
you going to enact today?
And then I say
glunkiness. And she goes
and she waves away the cops outside
and they go, yeah. Go home, boys.
Come home, boys.
And as for me, well,
it's kind of weird, but it's an order
again, uh,
appointment only?
Yeah, but it's more than that.
Order again.
appointment only. When in Rome, location permitting.
Ooh. Because we flat out can't get this in L.A.
Can't get it. Good luck, dude. And also, if I'm at home in my living room,
I would give this to a curious person, and they would only do one. They wouldn't get it again.
That is interesting. There's rock and rye isn't a taste. Like, this isn't anything,
this isn't like, you can't get this anywhere else.
Tell me, if this was next to a Cuba Libre, a rum and coke with lime, like you would be diving for that
Roman Coke with lime.
Yeah.
Of course, I wouldn't say that here or not.
I'm like, wait a minute.
I'll be the heel on this episode.
I don't care.
Jeff, we don't like you.
We love the mental maniac group.
He's kidding, Jeff.
I'm going to say those three simple words
that are going to bring you right back.
I don't love you.
Oh, my boy.
Now, this is good.
We've had a, we've done a little,
drinking we've made some laughs
some songs were sung that was so true
but we haven't tested our mental
capacity no what
and if you don't use it you're going to lose it
you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right are you
right are you too ready for the
I see P quiz
oh
some of these
we've talked about
you're on stage. So it's going to be a, it's going to be, it's a speed round. It's a speed. It's a speed.
Oh, good. But some of them are just going to be, you're just going to have to figure it out.
And saying clown posse, I seep. If anyone was, I thought I heard some go, I seep.
Nobody in the audience, don't shut out the answers because me and Jeff are going ahead.
Yeah, and this is for a scratch off money. Okay, here we go. Hey, real quick, we got to remember to
look into this. Yes. When we were in,
Minneapolis.
All the bars were selling scratch-offs.
Did you notice?
Yeah, right.
There would be like a lady behind bulletproof glass in the corner of the bar selling scratch-offs
and everyone was buying scratch-offs.
You know how we do it was bulletproof?
I was like, give me those.
No, I didn't.
I wouldn't do that.
You wouldn't open fire at a bar at anyone.
Okay.
This one is, okay.
Name the two main members of ICP.
Shaggy, two dope and violent Jay.
Okay.
I knew, I knew.
Okay.
But you're too slow.
I'm very much so like the tortoise, not the hair.
And the ant, and not the grasshopper.
Here's how we're going.
I'm going to keep track of everything.
So I just have objects in the mirror.
This is, shit, what am I going to do here?
Hold on.
What do you think he's doing?
You can't put it in your phone?
No, no, no.
I can.
You're going to arrange the trash?
So you get one point of trash
Oh, thank you. Because ICP, they kind of would like that.
Okay, okay.
Okay, I have one point of trash.
You keep that too.
I'm going to pile all of them on top of my magazine
Greater Lansing Visitor Information.
Woo!
I brought this out because I was reading this magazine before the show.
I wanted to see what restaurants it recommended.
Buffalo Wildways.
Woo!
And then I said,
Come on,
you can do better than that.
I said,
wait,
wait,
where did the original
where's the original
Buffalo Wildlings?
Google did it?
Columbus, Ohio.
It's not even that.
We're close-ish.
Has anyone ever been to,
we tried to get in,
but they didn't have any tables left.
Bowies,
what was it called?
Boaties.
Boaties.
Has ever been there?
That looked great.
It looked really cool.
Cozy little chapphouse.
We came in kind of like,
yeah.
Table for three.
Three.
Three.
Table for three podcasters, please.
Yeah.
Probably the best table.
And they said, no, it's too busy in here, but it looked really cool.
I want to come back.
Yeah, but then we looked in and the fucking smartless guys are there.
How do they get a table?
Well, they put a reservation in three weeks ago.
Okay.
Question two.
Question two.
Jeff, move those glasses.
I can't tell if those are points or...
Okay.
Violin J. and Shaggy Tudope.
met participating in what backyard sport?
Basketball.
Whiffleball.
Wrestling.
Yes, Jefferson.
You get a piece of garbage.
That makes sense.
They have a WW vibe.
Well, they did a little WCW, ECW, I think.
But they were doing that in like 1983 or something.
My birthday.
Yes.
But I didn't know.
You mean to tell me when Tim was strutting out the push?
see. Shaggy Too Doak was
body slamming Violet Jane to a
folding table? I walked out
on two legs. Thanks a lot. Mama,
I'm out of here. Unbelievable.
I need a
drink. I didn't think
that's crazy that that was happening all the way back
then. Here we go. Number three.
Nathan Rabin, the
Raven continue.
Oh, really?
The
AV editor. A.V.
Club. A.V. Club, yeah.
Wrote a book titled, You don't know me.
but you don't like me.
Yeah, you don't know me, but you don't like me.
About his two years of following the insane clown posse
and what other band?
Chain smokers.
No?
It's a very, you know, he followed the,
he kind of grouped these bands together
because they have very intense van bases.
Gwar.
Nope.
We.
Good guess, though, huh?
Nope.
Fish.
Fish is the band.
Fish?
Oh.
Another piece I got it.
I do.
Now, were you offended by that?
That Nathan grouped those together as a...
No, I haven't read the book, but I know he's a fan.
And I think it was...
From the review I read, it's like, he didn't realize, like, what was really going to...
I guess, like, happen to it.
Though musically different, those are bands that have, like, fervent followings and have live...
And no radio play.
Like, it's all just underground and kind of...
But, like, gathering of the juggalo's is similar to, like, a Madison Square Garden.
it's like the it's like the version of is that does that is that a festival that happened once or is that a thing they do if they do it all the time but also it's ballooned into multiple acts and all this stuff got you got like a like a la la paloos yes all right uh so tim gets that
tim gets two points okay good for him this is this is an interesting one can you name an i cp song
miracle miracle what was the one you said big money hustlers i a miracle i heard first
Big Money Hustlers, I don't see on the list here.
Is it not one?
Fuck.
Yeah, that's a movie, Jeff.
We're looking for a song.
Tim, you get another piece of garbage.
Oh, why did I work at Suncoast all those years ago?
Have you seen that movie?
I know the movie is called Big Money Hustlers,
and then there is a Western movie called Big Money Ruslas.
We should watch those for the blog.
We should.
I'm after just reading the Wikipedia page and look at poking around.
I'm like, I want to see what these.
guys were all those movies were so good and you're like shaggy too dope is such a
I mean this is a pretty weird thing if you didn't know anything you'd be like okay I'm
watching this western where like people in clown makeup are walking around the desert in like
leather it like sounds good like cowboy of it's Mike hit him with it Tim and Tim's got three
Jeff you got one where's your piece of trash go Jeff uh it's me I'm the piece of trash
Joe boo to that we like positive self-identification here Jeff
A line from the 2009 song
Miracles became a meme involving this
Magnet, how does it really work.
That's Jeffie gets the magnet.
Two to three, three to two.
This is trash right here.
That's two.
Okay.
Without going over, how many studio albums
has ICP release?
You just get to answer.
Eight, 13.
Yep.
17.
What the fuck?
17.
Tim is four.
Jeff is two.
For a bonus, half point.
Half point.
Side point, yeah.
You keep this one in the back pocket.
I want that half point.
What year was their last album release,
latest album release?
2025.
That's right.
25, Jeffrey.
That's a whole point.
It's tied up.
That's his very year.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, it's not tied up because he had four.
Four to three, four to three.
And it's four to three.
It was called The Knot.
And there's not anything on Wikipedia about it.
Sad.
It's not weird.
Like
Wikipedia.
I mean this album came out
like in the summertime
folks.
Does anyone here edit
Wikipedia?
Get on that.
I will say I was
reading up on Fago
before the show
and I looked at their
Fago Wikipedia page
scroll all the way
to the bottom
and said last edited
two days ago
and I'd love just knowing
there's somebody in there
being like
everything was good
except a few punctuation errors
but everything's pretty good.
I see
UPS, NBC, UCP, the acronyms are getting ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah.
Name the only female member of the original UCB4.
Amy Fuller.
Jeff Farson.
It's not about, it's an easy question, but it's about,
what we're talking about ICB, but the, but you gotta listen to the question,
which Jeff did, four to four.
This is perfect because now we are at the very last question.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but how much is the question worth?
It's worth one point.
I got to say, I hope I win.
It's the deciding question.
Well, folks, let's do a poll of who we want to win.
Clear, uh, wait, want to win or think we'll win?
No, no, don't want to win.
Who do you think will win? Tim?
Yeah.
Jeff.
Jeff, I think the fans are on your side.
Fuck that. That's fucked up.
Here's a, here we go. Question, the last question.
He's already winning, folks.
Speaking of UCB, what was the name of our birthday boys' live stage sketch?
Hot Doggin' in which we cast a live duck.
Picking order.
Tim wins.
Tim.
Tim wins.
He's a big quiz.
And I just want to say, to any.
Penn State
fucks
Washington
this is the
victory that
really counts
if I see
any Penn State
people out there
and I'll
strangle them
to death
if you see
anyone point them
out to me
they're dead
is it safe
to say
we can say
the same thing
about Ohio State?
Now you're probably
wondering
what was that
sketch with the
live duck
we had a
sketch where we
were all the
birthday boys
were in the army
and we were
like
The new Sarge is coming around.
Oh, he rides us so bad.
This neutral sergeant's the worst.
And then the door opens, and we got a Hollywood acting duck.
We hired a duck.
A person came, that Wrangler came, and it was like, oh, yeah.
His name was Donald.
His name was Donald.
He had a little army hat on his head.
That he refused to wear.
I can't believe we had a pay full price.
200 bucks.
You know, if he wandered toward you and started quacking, you had to sort of like,
oh, you know.
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
He started doing push-ups and stuff.
He did shit on the stage.
He did shit on the stage.
It was great.
It was great.
There was no real sketch that other than just,
hey, folks, here's the duck where it shouldn't be.
That's our show.
And if you can't get enough boys, come up to see us live
or go to patreon.
com slash the sloppy boys.
That's where you get the blow out.
That's where your life is twice as good every week.
Damn.
Folks, I got to say thanks for coming out to the final night of our tour.
We're going to be hanging out.
We got merch in the back.
We're going to be sitting at that table right there at both show.
Come say hi to us.
Thank you so much for coming.
We love witnesses.
Woo!
always
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