The Sloppy Boys - 277. Appenzeller

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

The boys recall their Swiss skiing adventure over some alpenbitter. Founded in 1902, Appenzeller's secret recipe boasts 42 selected herbs!Appenzeller is available in Switzerland.This episode is brought to you by Badger Bevs - Reach for the BadgerWANT MORE SLOP? Check out:PatreonSHOP the webstore at:The Sloppy Boys WebsiteLISTEN to The Sloppy Boys hit songs on:Apple MusicSpotifyYoutubeTOUR DATES, SOCIALS and more at:LinktreeT H E   S L O P P Y   B O Y S   L L CExpand Ascend Conquer Retain Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In my line of work, I gotta go out and see great bands that I like. That's why I'm going to see the Sloppy Boys Spring Tour. Los Angeles, Zebulon, March 20th. Phoenix Valley Bar, March 21st. Salt Lake City, Corridors, March 23rd. Denver, Marquis, March 25th. Dallas, Texas Tea Room, March 27th. Houston, White Oak Music Hall Upstairs, March 28th.

You gotta see it if you. you want to be there. And you know who's going to be there as well? Mike, Jeff, and Tim. Hey, folks. Welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. Hello. And Tim Calpacus. Swoosh, swish. What is up? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. We're the sloppy boys. Burr your frigid hosts. Tim, you remind me of, just those noises you were making me. Oh, gosh, reminds me of The time was we spent on the slopes.

Oh, did it give you flashbacks when you hear that sound? Suddenly you're back up at the Matterhorn. We're giving swishbacks. Folks, we're just back from the Swiss Alps. Your sloppy boys were skiing in the Swiss Alps and we've returned. Oh, yahoo. Wahoo yahuzel. What a time that was, huh?

Pizza, French fries, as far as the eye could see. That's true. That's very true. It makes sense that Switzerland, uh, shares a border with Italy because the way that I was doing pizza and France, pizza and french fries. God damn. But yeah,

what a blast. Folks, we were gone for a week. Cursey of Badger Bev's, reach the badger. How do you badger your Bev? Yeah, that's also how you get your drinks beverageized.

Yeah, we're still working on some of the slogans, but we're working very closely with the Badger Bev. Yeah, we're workshopping with them. None of them have been a hit yet. Now, anyone paying attention. The workshopping is we'll post a new tagline in an ad for them and they don't respond to it positively.

Yeah. I was going to say that if anyone follows us on Instagram, you'll notice we're part. Badger Bev's is our beloved sponsor. We legit do like the product. So we're posting all these videos. And if you look at their Instagram, they've never acknowledged our existence. For people wondering if it was a fake or was a bit. No, it's not a bit in that our friend J.D.

Badger Beves did hook up a trip to Zermit. Not Zermat, by the way. We were saying it wrong for a year. Right, right, right. When we were at the train station, I was like, excuse me, how do I get to Zermat? And every, I asked two people and they both said, Zermot. Zermot. They said, leave me alone. I said,

my German isn't that good, sir, but fuck you. I get from your tone of voice, you want me to leave. Yeah. Hey, how about at that train station in Zurich, though, How about those sausages we got that were just a big old sausage wrapped in wax paper? Just hold it with your hand. Yeah, I thought you guys were weird for that.

That, no, Jeff, that was a perfect snack. Well, we had the option. There's a thing there where they like, they'll dip it into a baguette, like a hollowed out baguette. But we were going low carbos stylies. We were kind of going ham on the low carbos. Yeah, we declined the roll option. You had a roll, role option, and you issued the roll option. Did you see us?

we were talking to the vendor, you probably noticed from far away, we were both like, we declined the role option. Us are showing them our passports. Us Americans are declining the carbop option. What happens with the inside of that baguette, when they take it out, maybe turn into a breadcrumb? Give it to me, man, that core. Give me that core. Ooh.

They put it in the Ben and Jerry's core ice cream. Bread, white bread core. No, there's a guy I know named Patrick who works, uh, who has a stand at the Los Feliz Farmers Market on Friday evenings. I recommend you go check him out. I learned about this food. He said he like spent like a semester in Berlin or something and was like, oh, there's this late night post bar food they have there.

In L.A., we only got the tacos. New York, you got the pizza. But in Berlin, they do this thing. And so he's doing the sausage in the bread thing at the farmer's market. And I've seen him. The bread actually doesn't get hollowed out. He just has like this thing that's a bunch of heated spikes and he just jabs the bread onto there. So it's just poking.

It's poking. The middle of the bread is still there. It's just pushed aside. Heated spikes. Sounds like Moral Combat or something. Spikes wins. Album 5. Sloppy Boys.

Heated spikes will be track one on a city of graves. Our hit album. Our hit upcoming album five. Our new metal, our new metal album coming up. This is a good process, new process for us. is have the album title, have all the track titles, and then start writing. Get the slop heads feedback. Like, hey, are they into City of Graves?

Do they like this idea? Start to generate interest before the songs are even written. Yeah, generate ideas that they have that can only be let down by what we will come up with. So, folks, we did go for a week Friday to Friday in January. Mike, you put this all together. This is the Zermod episode. This is the Switzerland episode for us, folks. The Swiss special.

The Swiss Miss. Oh, yeah, the Swiss special we should call us and really, don't miss this Swiss episode. I've been telling people we went to the Alps. I feel like if I say Zermot, people don't know what they. Yes, yes, the Alps. Switzerland, what the heck I say, I'm in the Alps, they say, I know the Alps. Or they at least have a picture of what you're talking about or thinking about.

And it is exactly what. what you're thinking about. It's the, it's the, the ground zero of where all this shit came from. All the alpine appraise and stuff. At least that's what I think. The word alpine comes up a lot,

like in life and you're like, oh, it's just referring to these mountains. On blue Gatorade bottles and, true. You know, life. On a certain,

certain bar menus that are hosting a sloppy boys event. Yeah, yeah. A one certain episode of the sloppy boys. But even like, I named my hit drink, the Alpine Crush, I wasn't even thinking of the Alps. I was just thinking. It was coming from a place of ignorance.

It was. I just thought that that was a good word that sounded like minty. I didn't even think about the Alps. And I kept saying, the whole time we were there, just the architecture and the style and stuff like, my whole life in Vermont and California,

whenever you're in a ski town and Colorado, when you're in a ski town, there's like cute little chateaus and stuff, and you're like, oh, this is so alpine. And it's like, oh, we were, we were at the place just now. That's where this. Yeah. We've been at fake versions of this thousands of times. It's funny because many times I was like, this place expresses that abstract idea better than all the others. And it's like, no, no, this is the place. It's not abstract. Every other place is doing this. The closest I've seen is like Disneyland. And you're like, oh, yeah, this is what

they're taking from. It really felt like, you look up, you see. You see. See the Matterhorn all over the plug. It's the only striking sets a striking profile, doesn't it? Does it not? Yes. It was that was so cool. The entire bowl of like the Zermat city town is like in a bowl. And it's looking at the Matterhorn, the imposing Grinch-esque hill.

Yeah. It's foreboding, but it's also welcome. It's like a shark tooth. Yeah, it looks like a shark tooth or shark fin. And all the skiing is. is you're going down the hill and you're looking at the matter horn. So like, you know, I have people asking me like, can you see the matter horn? And it's like, buddy, you can't not see the yard.

You see it all day, every day. I would love to not see it for two fucking seconds. Yeah, it was, it was and everywhere you went on the slopes, like people were taking pictures, ourselves included. And Jeff and I stopped at one, this one restaurant area. And this guy comes up to me, there's like a group of four. and I'm just kind of like got my hat off and drinking some water. And he's like, he's like, do you mind, um, taking a, dude, do you mind taking a photo of us in front of the Matojone here? It's like a couple of like four guys.

And they're lining up and he hands me his phone and he's like, as if we don't have enough already. Yeah. And then he's like, one of the guys was slow and he's like, the guy's name was Michael. He's like, Michael, come on. He means to take a picture. Hurry up. He means to you. And was that the same guy or a different guy?

Like, this is the same stop. Another British dude kind of passed us and shouted back to his friends. Like, let's have a bit of skiing. And we like, we like laughed out loud. We heard that. We're just like, bah! And they're like, yes, yes, we're silly. Yes, Wesley.

A bit of skiing. I liked that we only encountered a few Americans when we were there. And it made me realize that as much as the Matterhorn and the. Alps are internationally famous. It's not as much of an international ski destination as much as the people that live around there. That's where they take their annual ski trip. So it was a lot of Germans, a lot of French, a lot of British, some Italians.

And you're like, that's so cool that this, there's a lot of people traveling like three hours to come here. There were not a lot of people like us traveling from around the world. Well, especially just like hopping the pond, you know, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're pond hoppers. I forget, you know, because this was. definitely the furthest from home I've been, like, uh, like Frodo.

Were you homesick? Yeah, when we got, when we got off the plane, you put a foot down, you're like, this is the farthest I've been from the Shire. From the Shire. New Hampshire. New Hampshire. And also we were like, Jeff, well, technically, you know, the last eight hours on the plane, we were the farther, already the farthest you've been.

But this is, yes. I actually said that with every step I took, uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Your feet were going up and down the whole thing. And then on the way back, you're like, I'm closer. I'm closer than I've ever been. You forget, or I forget, that when you're in Europe, like, traveling from country to country is like traveling from New York to Atlanta. Yeah, it's like the countries are states almost.

The countries are like states. Like, they're not as. That's how I sort of look at it. It's crazy. They have such a strong cultural shift in, like, different languages, but they're just right there. I hope people from the people from the European Union right now are going We're not bloody states

Yeah and they love that by the way When we do our listeners accents to them Yeah they like that they like that This is how you think and talk matey Getting love you Love all y'all from around the globe Around the world Yeah and hey let's give a special shout out

Around the world. Let's give a special shout out to everyone all over the world. So, Mike, is this bad going to go for the rest of the show? No, no, no, no. Just when we're talking about people who are around the world. Oh, okay, cool. I did like, I feel like in America at a bar or a restaurant, I'm not necessarily a chatty guy who strikes up a conversation with strangers.

However, when you're traveling abroad, it happens so much just because you're, you talk and then people ask you if you're from America. and then suddenly your friends and you're talking and you're asking them where they're from you know like it's there's a culture clash gives you a built in conversation topic where it's like hey this language barrier is funny isn't yeah i like fumbling through um you know we were at little bar not little bar small bar what was it called little bar yeah yeah little bar um it's like you walk down some steps and it was kind of the it was the second bar we went to the first bar was harry's probably my favorite second bar was this little bar was this little bar was this little bar little bar. This is, I'm a Henustall guy. Ooh, Henustall, the rave. Oh, getting a Henustall very soon, I'm sure. The, uh, the little bar, it was like the first time we were talking to like the bartender and other patrons. And I got to use, I got to like talk, speak Spanish with

the bartender and his sister who is. Yeah, like, like, like, fumbling through half languages was really fun for me. Not fumbling. Well, for me, for me, fumbling. I know. I, I said a sentence to somebody that had, um, three or four different languages in it because like, I knew I was trying to do French. I knew one word only in English and then like some German or Spanish got in there too. And it's fun having like the shared mission of like, hey, we're trying to communicate through this barrier, but we like each other and we're like. Yeah. Yeah, I heard you. I heard you doing that down in the lobby at the hotel. You were like talking to the lady. You're like, um, El banio as uh, le clogged. Uh, uh, uh, le la laude. Uh, uh, le. Le, uh, le. Uh, le. Uh, le. Uh, le.

A molo, it's bad. Le Brown. Lebrum de toilet. It was weird. Everywhere we went, I remember Jeff kind of trying to tell them that. How you say clogged. How you say a ruptured O ring. Stop.

Oh, you know, it was another funny thing, too. At Harry's, we were talking to like this Swiss kid. who was like a ski bum and he had been all over the world. He'd been to mammoth and stuff like that. And it's funny, thank you. It was funny to hear what they think of us because, hey, I feel like Europeans,

I'm ashamed how much they know, they're a lot more locked in and locked in about what. They know so much more about our own, about U.S. history than we know about. History and locations. You know, like, I'm from New York. I told them I'm from New York, but I live in L.A.

and they're like, those are opposite coasts. And I'm like, I wouldn't know that about any two cities anywhere else. Yeah, like no idea where Byrne was in relation to Zurich. I mean, those are Swiss cities, of course, folks, but you're trying to keep up. There was a funny thing, though, to know what our reputation is abroad. Jeff was talking to this guy and he was like, oh, you're from America. And Jeff's like, yeah. And he's like, oh, don't shoot.

Oh, yeah. To the rest of the world, we're just trigger-happy gun dorks. I heard a Venezuelan guy talking to another Spanish, a woman speak Spanish. I don't know where she was from, but he said he was from Venezuela. And I kind of, they both kind of like raised their eyebrows to each other. And I, the guy was like, the guy was like, could be good, you know, talking about, uh, yeah, get whatever our situation is in Venezuela. And I was like, oh, I don't, so I don't get, maybe this guy is rich and this is good or he's joking or it was completely lost on me.

but I wish I knew what was the take was from like it also made me think a real life Venezuelan yeah I uh that guy you were just talking about Tim who we talked to he was saying that like skiing in Europe is super cheap compared to the U.S. shocking yeah like he said the place we were at was like the most expensive place in Europe or something which I that seemed crazy I know that was very fair like I remember when we showed up I was like I'm loving being here I don't know how much actual skiing I'm going to do because it's been 15 years at least. He took to it like a duck on water. Thanks, buddy. Well, you jumped right into like, I'm going for three days. And I was like, damn, that's really taking a big bite. I'm going to say two. And Tim said one. And we all started

off the first day. And it did take a little getting used to. But it was like riding a bike, as they say. Yeah. Jeff, you're good. It was wobbly that first day. Hold on. Like Tim was saying I was good. Tim, go on. I would say that you hustled. me, but I think probably you told me, and I just didn't listen. But I was expecting this trip that it's like, Mike's the skier and Tim and Jeff are beginners, but we, you would say, like, I said I skied as a kid, as in I went skiing a couple times as a kid, but you like had skied. And then I think you said you went, you snowboarded in college. So I don't know, I just wasn't aware of your expertise, but I thought you and I were going to be the Crash brothers. Instead, you and Mike were

skiers and then I was the king of the yard sale out there. Oh, by the way, my sister taught me that term and then we heard it again up there. It's so funny. If you crash and you lose your skis and your poles and everything falls out for the yard sale, it's all spread out on the snow. You didn't have a yard. You only, did you fall at all? I fell a lot.

It was great. Like after my first fall, it took the mystery out of it. I was like, perfect. This doesn't hurt because I never left the blue slopes, you know, So I never put myself in a position to. But I think for our American listeners here, I think the color system is different in the U.S. There, the easy was blue, then red, then black, then yellow. Yellow, right.

I feel like red should not be in the equation. That's scariest to look. Red looks, says danger. Hazard. I think there's a green, there's green in the U.S. When you're falling on snow and it's at an angle, I think it's harder to fall on flat ground than it is like Yeah

On a downhill anyway like it's it's very it's fine The only fall I had was when I was standing waiting for the chairlift And I just like fell over I couldn't fucking believe it I was just like well Yeah that could happen to you just in shoes as well Just sometimes you fall It's just like I get off balance I can't move that ski around quick enough

Wait before we you were saying something Tim you were talking about falling yard sailing yard selling you saw my fall Mike that I only had one fall the whole trip but I really did I fell

It was a steep slope Not a painful But it was a long fall And it was one of those things Where my stuff stayed on And I just tried to like starfish out To like stop the slide And I slid for probably 50, 100 feet

And it was like It was just kind of like laughing Like oh boy It was really funny to see And then like Halfway through the fall the snow got like up under the jacket and was just like packing my fucking asshole full with snow. We were talking about the price of the tickets.

They were like nine, it was like under $100 for a lift ticket for the day, right? Yeah. Man, that is so cheap. If you go at, um, after noon or after 12.10. Right, right, right. You save a bunch of bucks too.

That's wild. I can't believe it. When you said, we stepped up the window. It was like, Mike was like, I'll have a three day pass. And then Jeff's like, I'll have a two day pass. And then I'm like, I'll have a one day pass. And she goes, okay, well, if you wait until 1210, you could get an afternoon pass.

And that's cheaper. And I was like, what time is? And she's like, 12.06. And I was like, okay, I'm going to wait four minutes. So technically, I only had an afternoon pass. But yeah, I feel like in America, it's like triple the price. And then all the rentals would be expensive. And so this was not an expensive.

Yeah, the rentals were pretty cheap, too. And this was my first time doing the rental thing. where I mean, because I used to just do like after school where, you know, you get there at four and you rent the skis and you return them every day. You take the poles out of just a big barrel which everyone's like matched size. Yeah, you match them as the best you can. But this was like we got our equipment and we had it for the trip and the hotel, every hotel, the big ones, have what's called a ski room in the basement and it's just a locker room where your room key just works with a, you know, you didn't need to get a special fob.

It wasn't a pain in the ass. Like, your rookie you already have opens up your ski locker. And then we had them for, it's like, yeah, ski for the week. Return them when you're done. It was so easy. I loved it. That was fancy. Like the idea that I'm room 235.

So then if I go in the ski locker, locker two 35 is mine. I open it up and it's like ventilated and well lit. And like it was, it felt like a like an NBA locker or something, you know. Yeah, yeah. Like you forget. you're like, wow, this is so luxury. And it's like, well, yeah, that's what they do here. This is a ski town.

All the hotels are for skiers. Right. It's like, it was like figured out so well. Yeah. Very cool. Man. Before we get into booze news, and we're going to be talking about, uh, yes, the entire thing.

I, uh, I just finished it, but I made a coffee. I got a French press over here, gang. It's my, very fun. I feel like I'm doing some worse. Press, press. And you know what I did? I took the vanilla syrup that we just bought for the dirty soda. Hey, I got vanilla coffees over here.

Very nice. I pour my coffee and I got some to go cups. That's fun. Walking around. I'm walking by my old coffee place. Hey, asshole. I don't fucking need you anymore. I still like you, but I don't need you.

I'm not dependent. I still like you. Not dependent. How have you been? How has your weekend? You still want to go in and talk to the barista. And they're like, part of the deal is you have to spend money here if you want to talk to me. I have plastic cups that I use for ice coffees.

And I'll make myself a big clinky, cuby ice coffee and go for a walk. And I'll walk right past Starbucks and it feels kind of funny. I'm like, I wonder if they're looking at old Tim. This is disposable or plastic, you said? Like, both. That's funny. I like doing kind of the opposite of what Mike said back. we lived near a mess hall on los felus boulevard i liked walking around the neighborhood with a ceramic

you know like oh like yeah just a mug yeah yeah yeah like the sidewalk is my living room it feels like the um rick dalton like yeah just like i'm not renting i live here yeah that's a power move of course i was renting it well it feels it makes it makes like the neighborhood feel like you're like yeah you're right like a living room like the whole neighborhood's the house and we're all just in our own bedrooms. I'm cozy and familiar. If I saw you wearing a robe and slippers and holding a mug mug, yeah,

I would think this guy, this guy owns the town and I'm sort of in the way. If I saw you in like, holding a mug in like a robe and sunglasses, I said, uh, yeah, the,

uh, cosplay is complete. One battle, but one battle after another. Go ahead, Tim. You were still throwing this on me. Huh?

Oh, hey, also we haven't heard. if P.T. Anderson has checked out the sloppy boys band or podcast. So folks, if you have any intel on that, hit up the slop line. Right. We know he's aware of us. Or if you have a way to get in touch with him,

just a little reminder, just a little poke. Just a little nudge. Did you end up checking out the sloppy boys? Anything. You know what's kind of cool in PTA news? Remember I was talking about how lead singer of geese Cameron Winter played Carnegie Hall.

Yeah. Solo. One of the songs, I saw clips where PTA was on stage with the camera shooting him up close. So I believe there's a PTA concert film coming our way pretty soon.

Wow, that's fun. Or at least a video. Yeah. At the very least. Release the tapes. Released the tapes. Bums me out that that boy is 23. Cameron Winter at time of recording 23.

He's a young man, Mike. He's got his whole life ahead of it. That should not bum you out. You have your life ahead of you. He should do 23 and me.com. Change your attitude. Change your trajectory. All right.

Rolls off the tongue. Mike, I will. Good. And you're reading more too, which is good. Read my lips. One book down. But you ordered some. That's right.

That's right. So true. Wait, wait. I want to get into some booze news and we can obviously continue with the Zermat chat. Zermat It's Zat chat So wait It's not Zermot

Zermot It's not Zermot It's Zermot So you It's not Matt It's still Mott But you pronounce You emphasize Zer

Wait Mott means mountain And we learned what Zerm was Sperm? We did? I just theorize that Mott Mett Mountain Yeah because think about it Matterhorn is the mountain horn

Yeah Zermot probably means like Sur under Like French under Mountain. Oh, that's good. See, folks, this is why... That's probably it, yeah.

I don't know four languages, but I can fumble through four languages. Etymology pod. You know of four languages, and that's all you really... I just sort of have like background, general intelligence. Well, you speak Latin,

and background general intelligence. I wish I had some of that shit. Oh, speaking of the mountains, that was the other crazy thing. We'd go out at night, and when it was completely dark, and you'd kind of catch a little something in your peripheral and kind of look up thinking it's clouds and you're like oh it's the whole mountain

face is just like right right up next to the whole town and you kind of like step back and look at this giant mountain you're like oh right we're in this little valley it's so who kind of scary looking at the face of a rocky mountain all the time yeah uh i looked it up we were uh wrong matt actually means meadow so not the uh not the peaky part of the mountain but like the the base of the mountain. Stupid. And Matterhorn means meadow peak, obviously, you know, horn for peak. Oh.

You know, when I watch Sopranos, I did a lot of meadow peaking. All right. I did. What do you want me to lie about my lived experience? Maybe he did. Maybe he did, Jeff. Maybe he didn't. You know, I don't know what he does on his own time.

I did a lot of AJ peaking. That's sort of my guy. All right. Do we get into some. Boo's news. And me, I watched for, I don't, yes, yes, yes. Man, we are so behind here. Pish-Kip-P-Sich.

We got to really get through this booze news quickly and then get to the drink of the day. Yep. Well, do we hit it, Tim? And quit it. Booz-bib-bib-Bib-Bib-Bib-Boo's news hit it. It's sort of like a spell. You have to say it. I think I got booze news.

Wait, do you guys, do you guys hear that? Do you hear that? Do you guys hear that? Do you hear that? Oh, what he's going on? Oh, what he's going on? What he's going on? Is that it for booze news?

That's it for me. I got some booze news. Oh, shit, Mike's got booze news. I didn't know about this, by the way. Yeah, I got some booze news. Last Saturday, I got smashed on the couch while watching Shutter Island. Oh, what he's going on. Yeah.

What are you doing here? I was in the neighborhood. It's all. Whoa. What's going on was sent to us by E. Ty. And if you have a booze news team email to the sloppy boys podcast at gmail.com. That was fun. Thanks, E.

That's funny that we were talking Sopran right before, uh, yeah, big pussy came in. It's a big topic. Mm-hmm. I like also that we had a recent what's going on, a way of the headband sent us a similar booze news team that went the other way where it was. was like, what is up? So, like, the It's, I took it a different direction and went, what was going on? There was a moment that song where it sounded like, you know,

when you've got a song playing on, like, your Apple Music, and then you open a video, and then that starts playing. You're like, I got two fucking songs play. What's going on? Yep. And I know there's a fucking button on my keyboard that will, like, just open everything up, and I'll know which one. Oh, it's this one.

But I don't know what those buttons are. And I'm continually frustrated with my, machines. Control shift, P-L. Control shift, please. Please. Please. Please get rid of these music.

You know what's been happening to me a lot like that? There's a glitch in Instagram where like for some reason, so the first video I see like the song on it where it will keep playing and then I'm like going through my DMs or watching stories and that first song is still playing. I'm like, about fuck. Yeah. That is. That's me. I'm getting that too. It's a fairly glitchy app for being like this,

this central hub of a billion people's social life. Advertisement? Yeah. Yeah. And a giant industry is based on it. And it's like kind of a sloppy, glitchy, silly app. It is amazing that like, like when there was talk about TikTok getting shut down or bought or whatever. Yeah, Instagram.

Any of these can just like stop. And a person would be like, oh, fuck, my whole business is. Yeah. I can't sell my homemade whatever. It's like that's, or us too. I mean, that's a big part. It's a bummer as a. any creator, I'm sure, like, when you're thrown a curveball, like, well, meta's doing this now with

the algorithm. So we got to like re-approach our whole business. Like, it'd be nice to have some, some sort of steady sovereignty outside of these algorithms. Well, it also feels like if one of these, if like the Instagram guy was just like, no, I'm done with it and stops it. It's all, it was free for us to use. So like, it's just, it would just be done, right? Like, there's no, like, we don't own any of this stuff. It's very interesting, Jeff. I look to the money. I mean, that is funny when people are being really critical of Zuck and, you know, obviously META has done bad stuff like accidentally or carelessly influenced elections and stuff like that.

But when we're really hard on the guy, it's like, if he was like, okay, I'm sorry everybody, meta's closing, we'd be like, bo, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Yeah. And it's like the such the thing is like, they got us by the balls. They all got us. They got us. corporations. I'm back off corporations now. That did it? I did it for now.

Win me back. Balls in your court. I'm surprised there hasn't been a open source like competitor to Instagram. Like there are so many people that are like, can we bring back old Instagram where I just see what my friends post in order, please? Right. And like, you know, there's there's so many like open source alternatives to like people who are like, hey, tired of paying for Microsoft Word. Try open, you know, whatever, whatever. that open word or whatever. I bet there's a bunch of those out there,

but it's like, it's really tough to get people to jump on over to like, oh, you're right. Remember that there was that one app that was like, you get one photo a day and it just takes it whenever the photo. I mean, like, you really just want to be, hey, like Ariel said,

I want to be where the people are. That's right. That's right. And it's like, you see how hard it is to like get people to jump over to blue sky or get people to jump over to threads or whatever. And, um, I want to post.

stay what's the word hashtag they're not going to remake that movie again no no oh I don't think so that would be that um I uh you know maybe like 10 years ago there was an app called Path that uh was sort of like a

closed circuit Facebook it looked and felt sort of like any social media app but you could just like make little gangs so my family before we just had like a family chat like texting on messages my brother set us up like everyone get this app path and we were sharing pictures

and commenting on our pictures and it looked like Facebook and it was great and then like one day we just got a notification it was like path was like hey we're going out of business bye and then

all your pictures but my family for real though like I had pictures that like family pictures and stuff that I had never saved that everyone was sharing for more than a year

and it's just like well goodbye so that has scared me about like committing to a note you know i i have still have scars i i still have trauma yeah yeah i scott is you that i wish you saw is that that song is about thank you keitus thank you keetis from the meet sing it from the meatis keetis um did you see yesterday i saw two posts in a row weirdly in a row bad app making meta um where somebody came out like an engineer came out and they they said uh anthony keats is officially tone deaf Whoa.

Really? Yeah, like, first of all, like anybody, any fan of Red Out Jilly Weppers knows this. I mean, I have always known that. And you hear live clips and you're like, he's way off. But I always wonder about the definition of tone deaf is like, where does pitchiness? Like, hey, you're pitching. You know, like Randy Jackson saying you're pitchy. Where does pitchiness become tone deaf?

The lead singer of one of the biggest bands of all time is tone deaf. Jeff, do you know? I don't know, but I have other thoughts. No, I don't know. but it's funny that they they rose to fame doing like um funk rock scatty he was more rapy until he went under that bridge went under the bridge but like i i don't get and i don't i shouldn't admit this as a musician a paid musician i don't understand like pit what pitch and just like a note is you know what i mean you're talking about the note is the pitch like you're trying to sing the note the pitch the note is the pitch but now

here's here's what say you're on a piano and it's like okay i can play a c down here but no let me take it up here what's that is that the pitch as well that's a two this is octave that's an octave octave i think that mike pitch exists outside of that scale so like it's hurt in in the little in in the little gap between a c and a c sharp those you know they're that's where like the semi tones would come in if we talked about have i told you about some like don't even worry about semi-tones. We're not there you. Microtones.

Yeah, microtones. I think, but I think someone who's tone deaf, true tone deafness is like, they wouldn't really know if you're singing, you go up a note versus down a note. And I feel like when I've sung with people who are tone deaf,

they almost confuse loud and soft with up and down, like high and low. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was acting, too, people like louder acting is like angry acting. It's like now I'm nice so I'm talking quieter.

Oh yeah. And now I'm Ryan Reynolds. Love him. Mint Mobile. Check him out. Kiss my ass, Wolverine. Hey, speaking of acting, I got to give a shout out to my new boy, I have a new favorite actor.

You know, I finished reading Lonesome Dove. I loved it. So I'm watching the miniseries from 1989. Robert Duval is dripping charisma in this fucking thing. This is the best actor of all time. Wow. Doovie, dovie, do. My grandparents watched Lonesome Do we do Duval December.

Duval December? Yeah. Or Duval fall. You mean in about a year? Yeah, sure. Doeval all December. Duval all fall. Yes, we're going to dovol.

all December. Ooh, I'm seeing Tommy Lee Jones in that as well. Yeah, it's amazing because it's like sort of in the days when when movie actors, you didn't see them on TV. So it was a big deal that this, this was like roots where it was a mini series that was like every night for a week on ABC or CBS. Oh, it's like you're, you really are watching a movie like like it or something like. What network?

What network was it on? I want to say CBS, but I could be false. You're just thinking that because CBS is for the. old heads. Right. It's funny to me to think of like that on TV or Twin Peaks being on, that was also CBS, right? Oh yeah. ABC. It just feels like a funny ABC, a funny era where I don't know, I guess there's examples of this now too, but just like a very weird thing to have on network TV that just goes into everyone's home. Like what a wild swing. My parents don't have like their taste isn't that weird. But they, along with.

everyone watched Twin Peaks because it was on ABC and like talk about maybe maybe the weirdest most surrealist thing to just be pumped into homes across the nation in like the fucking 80s or 90s or whatever or 1990 we talked about that was Seinfeld too it's like that's a really uh and the simpsons like the humor there is very like quick and smart and like the fact that it's some of the biggest shows it's like yeah america gets this stuff it doesn't have to be right just put out something smart well i don't know they used to Can you imagine Fraser used to be pumped into homes? They're pumped too much of it in my home.

Get me away. Frazier crane. It's when there was only four networks, it's so weird. There was just millions of people watching everything. So, yeah, like, people were like, oh, God, it's like this weird Twin Peaks is on this channel, and that channel's like, sorry, it's our weird summer replacement. And like, seven million people are watching it. Yeah, it's not a dull swim.

It's one of the four options on both. like prime time television. If you live in America and you're sitting on your couch at night, like there's a 25% chance you're watching that. I always think about Conan, late night with Conan O'Brien when he talks back like about in 1993 when he took over, he was like, you know, we had this freedom.

No one was watching so he could do sketchy stuff and smogel or as a bright and no one was watching. And 1.5 million people were watching. But they're like, no one sticks around this late. So they, 1.5 million people felt like, embarrassingly low ratings to that at the time. What would Leno have been getting? Is that like 40 million?

Like five or six, yeah. Oh, oh, okay. What is like the Super Bowl gets 40 million? That's like the biggest. Probably. The big name. I'm just, I'm just thinking he's like 40 million an insane number for anything.

40 million is that. It's more than my annual income. I'll tell you that because I was just talking about tax lady. She said I make significantly less than 40 million dollars. You're like, okay. And why, but why do I always just start with 40 million? What is it with me in the 40 million? All of us together must make 40 million.

I'll ask us. I'll talk to Elise. E.B., are you including Elise in this, Jeff? All four of us? Yeah, yeah. Us three and Elise. That's got to be 40. She probably handles like over 40 million in terms of getting people's taxes ready.

Yes. All right. What's the actual booze news? Oh, shit. We got to move on this fucking forever slow episode. Okay. I got quick bips. First BIP is just that, you know, there have been a lot of stories lately of like,

Gen Z doesn't drink, Gen X still drinks, millennials drink a lot, but there's this kind of shift happening. And after those articles, there were a couple articles of like, ooh, the liquor industry not even doing so well. We're seeing stories about like the big conglomerate. Like there's a surplus of whiskey, like a backlog and liquor's not selling in America. Okay. Well, here's the next step of that.

Selling pretty well at my house, Tim. I don't know if I buy this. This might be fake news, but. Yeah, business is booming. Selling out of your house? He's a bootlegger. I'm moving product over here. You can't sell the Badger Bev's.

Get beverages. Remember we talked about like the health triangle of foods and stuff that recently got like flipped upside down? Right, right. Food pyramid. In the 90s, they're like, eat a lot of processed grain and a teeny amount of meat. And then as part of the like, Maha Kennedy movement. They like, we'll turn that upside down.

But there's changes happening to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services now that are sort of politically motivated. So one of the new ones is the thing that we have heard forever, which was about drinking and how it relates to Americans, the government has always said, yeah, women could have a drink a day and men could have two drinks a day. And it wasn't clear whether that was like a maximum or a minimum based on exactly what, but we've always been told by the Department of Health and Services,

like the two drink a day thing. That was just officially, as a Trumpy redoing of a lot of this stuff, that's gone. So, and now the government no longer weighs in on a maximum amount that you should be drinking or making any, it's just sort of like alcohol, oh, we don't go for it. We're not weighing in on that. Yeah, it's interesting because Trump himself is not a drinker. Um, right. But like, of course, I'm suspect of any of any change at all. But like, this just feels like kind of like a non news item. It's like it's like, it's not like before they were recommending a drink a day or two drinks a day. It was just sort of like, we deem that non-dangerous. Is it like the least you can do for a for like a alcohol lobbyist or something? It's like, well, we can't, we can, we just say nothing about it. And that, that will thank you for the cash. Oh, I'm so cynical about our government. I do think it's motivated by big liquor conglomerates. being like, hey, this industry is hurting.

And then the government being like, hey, we'll help you up. But we can't go all the way to send. Like, hey, everybody drink a lot of whiskey. So this either feels like the first step or just like a weird compromise. It makes me think about how when we had heard about like, hey, glass of red wine is actually good for your heart. That was like, I was just going to say, like the antioxidants was a big buzzword. You don't know when you hear stuff. You don't always think about who it's coming from.

And that was like the heart association. Yeah. had said, if you do have a glass of wine every night, alcohol thins your blood. So for that one, he's like, they're like making an American Heart Association brand bottle of wine. Reasling. But like alcohol thins your blood. So if you're only thinking about cholesterol and not clogging your arteries, it is good to have for one or two hours a day have thinner blood. Yes. But if you're a heart doctor, you're like, go ahead and have that. But why not have thin blood for 14, 15 hours a day. What's the problem?

Yeah. See how thin you can get your blood by chugging as much wine as possible. How thin can you go? But I've seen stuff about how like the heart association didn't talk to other organ associations about how alcohol is poison and what it's doing to the other parts of your body. So it was like, yeah, go ahead, thin out that blood. And then like, you know, like the liver people are like, uh, uh, what the what? Go ahead. Thin out that blood doesn't mean, doesn't matter to me one bit. Okay, that's it for alcohol government blood talk.

Here's the second quick bip to wrap up booze news. This revolves around a certain booze podcaster, who you guys know, Tim Kalpacchis. I've got a little bit of a certain reveal. This is going to be bad for audio listeners, but good for you too. Great. Because right now...

And good for YouTube. I have a digital background up right now. Don't worry, folks. We'll clip this. We'll fucking clip this. It's totally easily clipped. If it gets clipped and it goes viral, then we might become really famous and that all affect our personal lives, though. Yeah, I don't want that. I don't know. I think, I don't think any amount of money

is going to change me and my, my character. Well, then let's take a shot. We're looking at Tim's digital, digital background now, his Zoom digital background. He's got a white, brick painted. Yeah. Yes. And I'm about to. It looks like it. keeps looking like he's getting like swallowed by a fog. It's like coming in over him a little bit. He looks like a forced ghost. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

But what I'm going to do right now is... These are not the podcast as you're looking for. Stop it. That's keep shit. Wait, Tim, before you do anything, can you just kind of like sink back in it like the Homer meme? I want to see if you kind of disappear. No, it's still picking him out pretty good.

Yeah, it's getting brother. These are, this is damn good technology. Way to good. Go re-stream. Go ahead, Tim, do your thing. Here's the reveal. Bush. Oh, whoa, what the, that's real? You know what you're looking at, guys? What? What's going on over there?

I'm seeing a neon sign, a plant, and what looks like a diploma? Yeah, I graduated. I'm seeing, yeah, diploma. I'm seeing, I bet that's your captain's, uh, I'm seeing wooden walls, which I don't know of any wooden walls in Tim's domocile. Tim is officially now facing west. Wow. Manifest Destiny. I said it on pod last year.

He's west. Your piano or your desk is where your piano was. Nope. No. I just rotated my desk 90 degrees. Ooh, so you're on that other wall. Just for my head. So you're facing your bedroom now or you're facing your kitchen now?

I'm facing my kitchen. Gotcha. So now. Oh, that's what I meant. Yeah. But I haven't moved the piano. Okay. Ah.

I just rotated the desk. But now it's all just part of my plan. I see, but you can kind of tuck to you're tucked a little bit. Last year I said this was calling to me creatively. In 2026 is going to be a big writing year for me. Last year was our road dog and tour year. This year, I'm either going to write the Great American novel or a hit film or sell several TV shows. I haven't decided yet.

But it all starts with. Sounds like you at least read it the great. at least read the Great American novel. Yes. That was step one. Read it? First of all, I got to call myself out on read it. I might need to read it a few more books.

It's not a great sign for guys talking literature and stuff that the idea that one of them says read it instead of read. It just doesn't feel like any of these guys are going to write the Great American novel. Said it once accidentally. So I just want the listeners to know from now on when you're hearing me, just know that your boy Tim is facing one. West. This is huge. They do it. I bet a lot of people were like, that explains it.

That's why this episode is so good. It's got a, it sort of reeks of manifest destiny. It does. Huh. It does. It's funny because you, uh, you had to go west to get back from your Zermat trip. I mean, still have a tough time saying that. Zermot.

Zermot. Zermot. now Tim what is with the we've got the the the the wood wall there what is you know what that is yeah how do you explain that

this is a facade oh look at this I got a little badger beves right there huh it's nice reached the badger I put up some when the TV show

comedy bang bang ended after having written for it for five years I stole the floor there was there's like this. It's like a slab of like linoleum. So it was like plastic. It was rolled up plastic wood paneling that was plastic and it was the part of the floor that Scott sat on.

I rolled it up and took it because people were like, can I have this chair? Can I have this? So that's been on the floor of my office and I just hung it on the wall. So I've got a little bit of a. So you nailed it in? Yep. That's cool. It looks good.

It looks cool. Oh. So it's not sticky. It's you nailed it in. it's not sticky I have nailed it in and there is a fern and there is a live music sign

my sister gave me and there is a plaque given to me by Funny or Die because for writing my big ferns joke because I helped so many people get affordable health care that they gave me a plaque. Oh, so this was a last black president joke?

Yes, yes. Was that coming from the Obama office? This was made probably by Mike Farrow with his two hands over a Funny or Die. But the reason that Obama was on ferns, the White House reached out to funny or die and was like, hey, we're trying to make some viral videos to promote Obamacare. Could we be on ferns? So I'm, I'm responsible for 16 million people getting health care that day. Nice work. I mean, it's funny that that doesn't

get mentioned when it's like, you know, one-time nominee, you know, two-time nominee. And then like the bringing the coffee to the whole casting crew, the whole mention of like national health care doesn't even make it into that. But coffee, bringing in coffee to the, to a crew on a music That's relatable working man stuff. It's also, you don't want to get political with your sort of catchphrases. Keep it. I got to play both sides of the eye.

Keep it tight. Keep it tight. Boy, I got a neon too. Hey, we should get into the drink. We should get into the drink there. Yeah, Jeff, that's dope as hell. Do you want to do the thing where we, do you want to do the thing where we get the drink and you,

we go through the history once while we've gotten our hand? Let's get to drinking. Let's just, come on. Come on. What are we doing here? Well, let's take a break. And the drink of the day, I'll explain while we're sipping it. Oppenzeller, Alpenbidder, the Swiss liqueur de jester, dark black.

I'm going to have mine on the rocks. How are you going to have yours? Yeah, I'm going to do a big old fat cube. Two and a half ounces? Or, yeah, two and a half ounces? Two. Two. Two. Two.

All right, folks. We're going to take a little break. And when we come back, oh, wow. Appenzeller in hand Swish swish Swish Dlish App and Zeller in hand

This is a classy looking drink Look at these nice glasses now I'm very happy with these Oh where'd you get that rocks glass Amazon? My mom got for me for I got a set for my birthday This year

Well that's kind You got a bit of a crystal bevel Nice crystal bevel and it's got that good weight to it it's not like crazy heavy like reproving a point here but it's got like a glass with some ballast yeah me too yeah oh yeah um

my fucking ass is a big ballast uh stop do you hear any do you hear this at all listen closely any tinkling you hear and like it's it's snowing like crazy out here this is uh this is the big like winter storm we've been here about

and the flakes are heavy enough that you're hearing them thunk fw whack whack whack whack, whack, whack, whack. It's like icy slate. It's like bouncing off my AC. Oh, is it on your air conditioning window unit going thunk, thunk, thunk. And on the window or the fire escape right here. But it sounds kind of crackly and fiery.

Ooh, it brings me back to Zermat. Ooh. Oh, Zermott. Ooh, Zermott, too. As well. As well. That's fun. I'm jealous.

All we have in L.A. is the most perfect, beautiful weather on Earth. Oh. Oh, 70. every day. Oh, and everyone's tight and tan. Oh, that was nice to come back to that. It was great. Like, um, we've done a lot of traveling recently. And I

would say the last like five times I came back to L.A. from tour or Christmas or something, L.A. was letting me down. Like, we'd come back from Detroit or Chicago or New York and it was always rainy and cold. And it was like, oh, man, I wanted to have that California thing. Yeah. It's like, why the hell did I live move here if I'm not

getting this when I land? It's the whole point, especially the best is if you land on bank and you step right out onto the tarmac and it's breezy and warm but sunglasses on it's such a fun trip the swiss alps coming back you're sad that vacation's over but we have had like just like icon it just rained here so everything's green and i have a nice front lawn and it's sunny yeah like big blue sky white puffy clouds perfect that's nice you pull up the weather on your phone and it's just big big yellow suns all the way down for 10 days suns all the way down and i've been every day i'm hiking in Griffith Park. I'm drinking green juices. I feel like a

Cali guy, you know. Well, we are not getting that here. We're roughing it. We're out there. That's what makes us so tough and strong here. You know, people give New York such a bad. Oh, they're so rude out there. We're honest. We got places to go. What? We got places to go, babe.

Oh, this sucks. I'm never going back to New York. What are you talking about? Are guys like that out there? I don't like that. That's, well, that's what I'm like. Hey, excuse me. It's weird, Mike, because I've stayed at your place a lot in New York, and I don't even remember you acting like that. Yeah.

It's not like that. It's not like that. Hey, hey, lady, you're going to buy that hot dog or take it out of the day? Get out of my fucking way. That sucks. Hey, down in Times Square all the time. It's weird. You're so busy at a place to be when your, like, your main job is professional

podcast for what you do out of your home. Yeah. I know, but I always got to be. That's the thing. The city just charges me up. Yeah. I don't need espresso anymore when I'm out in the city streets. Oh, God.

Why drink this fucker? Yes, yes. A thousand times, yes. Smells herbaceous. Cheers. And what would we say in Switzerland when we were raising a drink? Prost? Which was German, but sure, why not?

German was like the main language. It's kind of the dominant. Yeah. Yeah. Every menu, every sign was like German, French English. Yeah,

I was excited to see French people and hear French and stuff. But yeah, it was dominant. It felt like German was a francophile. Frankophone. Thank you. I'm going in for the kill. Sips.

Folks, it's a dark black liqueur on the rocks, herbaceous. We're sipping. Here we go. Ooh. That's nice. Now,

I think it tastes like damn near 42 selected herbs. Jefferson. Hey, no, let's not get ahead of ourselves. 41. Folks. This is, what a taste. That's good.

Speaking of like shitty weather, not shitty weather. Snowy weather, Mike. Weather. I was looking forward to putting together a snowsuit for this trip, not knowing what to expect, thinking it's going to be like tundra. Like, I'm picturing Kurt Russell in the thing. Like you'll die if you don't. bundle up.

Yeah, yeah. You got to drink some J&B scotch to stay warm. And so we're flying out to, we do the, we pack it all in, we go, we got big bags, but big light bags because snow pants don't weigh so much. It's not like carrying a merchant tech around like we normally do. We fly out to Zurich. The longest flight I've ever been on, probably six hours to New York and then eight hours from New York to Zurich, would you say?

Long enough that they fed us dinner and breakfast. Hot meals on a plane. Oh, yeah, that was fun. I didn't sleep at all on that flight. So when we got to Zurich, I was out like a light. Like everybody wanted to kind of put bags down, but I wanted to like sleep, sleep. And I was kind of ready to not experience Zurich.

Just a Zurich was the sacrificial lamb on the way to Zermat. Yeah, it's a stepping stone of a, it's a big city. It's a modern city. It's an expensive city. But you're willing to sacrifice. you didn't feel like we're missing out on too much culture. Sorry to the folks in Zurich. We didn't really do our research.

We had a big kind of snowstorm there too when we landed. So walking around there was kind of hickeress. But we pull into our Zurich hotel and wouldn't you know there's a giant, there's a giant Kampari sign on the roof of our hotel. I love it. That feels like a good sign. And then I peer down the street and there's like a narrow winding street full of shops and restaurants and bars.

And I was like, well, I'm already charmed and I want to go check. shit out. Very, very diagonal alley like if you're a Harry Potter for the HP heads. Oh God. But I do lay down and I'm dead fucking asleep and you guys went out, I want to say, first, right?

Oh yeah. We all lay down for 20 minutes but I went down for like two hours or more. And then you came back and I got up and I had Jeffie's little solo adventure. This is our hotel room. Our hotel room was only big enough for two people at a time. It was very hostile, like. I like it.

We had three, not even twin beds. Three, like college beds, kind of, narrow. Guys, the, the, the, the neighborhood is, uh, Niederdorf. And yeah, narrow streets with a lot of shops right outside of our hotel. Ned Neterdorf. Stop. I really liked being dead alone going out. I didn't want to wake up for you guys to show me what you had already seen.

I wanted fresh eyes to go out there. And this is like fully nighttime at this point, probably like 8 p.m. Yeah. Um, no earlier, because. nothing was, it was still a little dead. Let's call it six. And I'm walking around. Charmed by all the stuff.

And I stop into a bar called, this one was called cha, cha, cha, cha. I want to say, kicked down the door. That's you. What is this? My first takeaway was that like, I'm a pro cocktail podcaster. And here's the first time I'm leaving America for this I've ever been from home.

I want to get a look at that bar. And I was kind of disappointed in that. I knew 90% of the balls out there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. First laying eyes on a bar internationally, I was expecting, like, what do they, what it even got? Sure enough, you know, it's still the Western world under capitalism. 90% of this shit is all the same.

But I did ask, what's like the iconically Swiss thing I can get while I'm here? And I wrote it down wrong, but he said, Oppenzeller. Hey. He said, we don't have any here. And I said, but it's Appenzeller, Oppenseller? And so I was very happy to report that to my boy T, who would also go into a bar and be like, what's the weird iconic local thing? And they said the same thing.

Well, when we went out, then we went out together, we had gone in shifts. Me and Mike had our snowy walk. Then we take naps. Then Jeff has his solo walk. Then when it's, this is now we're saying, hey, it's prime time Saturday night. The sloppy boys, let's go hit the town. Very fun because you're in Zurich. You want to get some Swiss culture.

but you're also just in your you're outside of America. So there's every, you know, like we saw like there's, we went into like a Cuban cigar bar and there was like, there was like an American bar. A lot of Tiki, a lot of takes on TG. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Cuban cigar bar, my, the shirts I wore in there, like the t-shirt and long sleeve smelled like cigar for the entire rest of the,

that was the first night. The entire rest of the trip. I could not shake this smell. Cigars mean business, man. That's funny. My sweater smells like that too. I forgot. That's why.

Cigars are. The food very much, like a lot of, a lot of that duneer, a lot of Middle Eastern kebab mixed in with German sausage type stuff all over the place. Oh, remember, at the other end of the trip, we were at a tiny town when we got off a train and we were at

a pizza place that had this giant menu of everything. And I, I saw they had a taco menu and I ordered a hot dog taco. Hot dog taco, but what showed up? A bologna cassidia. It was like French fry cassidia. She's like, no, no, you wanted number seven, not number eight. Yeah, it had fried.

It was delicious, but it wasn't a hot dog taco. Anyway, back to night one, when we go out into the Niederdorf, the three of us, lots of options, but we chose, I forget the name of the place, but it was a restaurant bar that had a cover, nine Swiss francs each. And we said, let's go see this band because it was like a polka band, but they were also doing modern covers to a backing track and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It was a three-person band, so we could relate.

and they were switching instruments like we do and like the front man was playing trumpet at one point piano at one point guitar at one point and that was I want to say his name was Alder was the band called Alder Adler Adler Adler Adler Adler yeah like Stella Adler It was uh they were playing kind of like

traditional stuff yeah they had like a mandolin They also had a big like a rechola type of like horn that they didn't use We didn't see music but it was cool if they like it was part of the thing. I like to, their, they're nice,

low mix because there's lots of, like, old people, uh, in this restaurant. So it was like, even when he pulled out this stratacaster and playing a rock song,

it was some of the, like, tasteful, the mix was so low. Background mixing. Good, good people watching too. You know,

you're, you're watching a young blonde girl with a 200 year old boyfriend and you're like, that's a sugar daddy kind of a vibe over there. She's taking her corpse out for a walk. They were having fun, though. Do you remember?

that guble? Like, he was making her laugh. I was like, that's cute. I'll say the, the, the, the, um, the, um, the hostess who sated us. Because we, we just walked in and kind of saddled up to the bar and then they came up, uh, asking for money in German. And we didn't understand. It took us for a second to figure out that we needed to pay a cover, which we happily did to support the arts. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, this was probably probably one of the two times that there was like static. We, we got, I felt like an ugly American. Because we kind of admitted like, hey, we only speak English. And, um, um, and she stopped, took a deep breath, and then sort of like tried her best to convey to us in English that we needed to pay a cover. But it was like the first time that we got a little bit of shade and it was right out the gate. She's like, well, you can sit at the bar or the tables. We got wine.

I was like, you know what? People don't like when their accent is thrown back at them, all right? Yeah, don't do that shit to me. We've learned that. We've learned that. We're learning that. It's a thing about international travel. Those first couple days, it takes a lot out of it.

The clunky, the language barrier and like the messiness of interactions is embarrassing for two days. Then you just get used to it and you're like, this is life. But I remember that feeling from like being in Paris and stuff where you're just like, early on in this trip, we were sitting at a table and a waitress walked up to us speaking different language. And we just looked at each other like, oh. Yeah, yeah. You just say it in English and then say it again, be like, I don't know anything else. Harry.

Sorry. We were really big. I mean, it is very. lucky or privileged position to be in that like everybody does kind of speak English and that you can just sort of fumble through and people will people are kind of happy to accommodate you I'm going to say like people happy to accommodate each other in general more than America by far just like authority figures are there to help they don't have a stick up their ass the way that anybody with any power in America does you know what I mean like I kept saying that when we were on the

ski lifts, it didn't, I'm just, just compared, like, it didn't have a sense of like panic or rush or like somebody being like, come on, let's go. Let's get you. Like you're saying, I, I've got authority on the ski lift here. It just felt, I don't know, it felt very just like, it's like, yeah, we're all adults. We'll all get on this thing. And we don't need a big like buzzers and lights going off to get in the gondola type of thing. I don't know. It was tough to describe. Did you feel that? What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think. I felt that and I felt like what I felt was a organizational, like, it makes sense that Swiss is where they make watches and they have fancy engineering and stuff because everything was very like economically like well planned and smooth. And when we got back to JFK and TSA is like, take your shoes off.

Put your laptops out of your bag. Put your shoes back on. And they're just like screaming. And we're like, oh, we just had a week of like everything being so smooth. smoothly organized and engineered. You kind of don't realize until all of a sudden you're like, hey, we just got off that train and on to this one that was here right exactly the time of the sheet says. Okay.

Yeah. Interesting. And like, yeah, sure we sat in first class accidentally. And we weren't berated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, so that's what all these ones are on the walls. Interesting. Just like the last train we were on. Very good. Yes. Yes. But yeah, every, you know, it's not like every copy. or ticket taker or parking attendant or employee.

I don't think I saw a cop one cop. Yeah, it's funny. I saw police cars. I don't think I ever saw a police man. Yeah. Yeah. They just abandoned their cars. We did see that one robocop style cop.

Oh, good on. Vita. Wait, wait, wait, but the Oppenzeller. So we were at the, that bar we were at, the first night in Zurich. With the band. With the band, Adler. We sat down it to the bar and we saw it on the wall. wall Oppenzeller. And it was right next to the fernets and the chinars and stuff. So we said,

this is going to be a okay. And yeah, it does taste like a fernet, but maybe sweeter. It's, you can tell it's different herbs. Probably 42, let's say, give or take. It says it on the bottle, 42. It's, yeah, it's got a little bit of like a, it's, it's got that herbleness of a frenet with a little kick of like candy sweet at the end, like a little coating of something nice. It reminds me of. Fernette, bronca, the minty one.

That's a little sweeter, menta. And it's funny that we just did Underberg because that was a, a characterized as a croider liqueur,

but we were talking about how like, okay, Italy and Germany both figured out to make a dark black thing out of a million herbs

and drink it after dinner. And then now this is, Oppenzeller is this brand, but the, the category is Alpenbiter, alpine bitters. and lo and behold, it's a bunch of dark black liqueurs

that you drink after dinner to digest and bring sweetnesses and herbaceousness and this is the most popular one. And yeah, I do, it does taste alpine to me and that it's, it's very much like an Amaro, like the sweeter Amari,

but it's, there is like an alpine mintiness in there. It feels like pine sticks almost or like, yeah, the pine of alpine. And you could, you could feel as being like dug up.

out of the snow. Like everything, everything in here was like birthed from like snowy hill. This would be good in a, uh, in a, uh, uh, alpine crush. Uh, let me read the, let me read the history here on the bottle. It's short. The recipe from 1902 is a secret that is well guarded by the founding family. The 42, Jeff, selected herbs give eponzeler alpin bitter. It's unique flavor. Neat on the rocks or mixed. It is best enjoyed ice cold. I can attest to that. I can attest to that. A very cool bottle, too.

This is a cool logo, cool. Yeah, it's a thick green bottle. And it says on the bottle and on the cap, character style personality. Ooh. Ooh. That's the new, that should be the new sloppy boys tag.

Sloppy boys. Yeah. Hey, character style personality. Hey. It's funny we just did Ounderberg because it's, I'm looking at the blurb from the Oppenzeller website, and it's very much this thing of like,

the under blur. Nobody, we won't tell anyone with the 42 herbs. Underberg was 43 herbs. But they're like, we won't tell anyone with the 42 herbs. Only two people is still from the original family are picking up the herbs. What's with the secrets with the herb families here? What's going on? Look, look, look.

Hey, I say each of us go get 10 herbs. We'll bring them back. We'll come up with our own bitter. That's a good idea. We should. That should be the Sloppy Boys movie. is we are in Europe and we it's like a count is dying and he's like you boys we have a great time with him and like at a Zermot uh Swiss Alps like a bar and he's dying he's like here's the

recipe to the Oppenzopper bitter bopper we're like okay we got to keep this thing safe said to bring it to my son he's on the other mountain and maybe though the whole plot is about like oh there's so many herbs and where the herbs come from in the combination of herbs but maybe in the end to show that keep it simple it's like in the sloppy boy style we come out with an Amaro or an hop and bitter that it's just one herb

and it becomes the most popular drink on earth and it's just one herb. One herb to rule them all and then maybe we maybe we stop at the Chartruzine Monk's place for an ingredient or two and we're like it's too quiet when you have like a rock and roll concert for them and they you know it's

that's good they got fun shorts and jams underneath their robes, they whip off the robes, and they're all Egyptian dancing down the, walk like an Egyptian. That's good. Also, it's good PR for the count. You know, in Western culture, every count is a blood-sucking fiend. Yes.

It's okay. A count is just a designation. That's just a class status. This is a good count. We do the whole adventure in his memory and his name. So it's good rebranding for counts. Is a count, is that royalty of some sort? Is that, it's like, it's like Lord, right?

Yeah, is it a step below, Lord or above? Gotta be below. What are we? I'm a count. We are the feudal class. I'm a dude man. I'm a brother my star. It's a historical title of nobility in certain European countries.

Wow. Nobility. That's funny, because I was reading when we in Zermott, there was like a famous story about some like mountaineers. that had surveyed the Matterhorn and had died and there was a like a museum exhibit in their honor and stuff. And when I was reading about it on Wikipedia,

they make a big point. It's like, yeah, there were like seven people in the expedition. One of them was a lord. And I'm like, oh, people used to care about that. They're like, oh, seven people died and one was a lord. Like now you would be like, I mean, if it was a lordee, we would care now. Elordy.

A lordy. Jacob, El Loredie. because we'd be like, well, he and Margo got the new Wuthering Heights film coming out. So he's got to be there for that. But isn't it funny? That's how different we feel that like, if I found out seven people died and one was a lord,

I'm like, well, I'm happy that Lord died. It sucks with those others six. Like happy a Lord die. The guy who's richest and owns the most land. Yeah, but it's like, it'd be now like saying like one of them was a CEO. Right, exactly. Like, that's extra important that he owned the most. most of all.

Oh. He owned the most. He's leaving the most behind. The most moat. Now let's get back to the ski, the mountain itself. It was very thin air up there. It was tough. Oh, yes.

I kind of had a bad appetite or lost my appetite. Yeah. Kind of the whole Zermot part. We never ate lunch the whole trip because the air made you feel kind of sick. Yeah. It was, it was, it took me a while to get over. And my sleeping schedule was all crazy. that was tricky. That I didn't love.

Sleeping never really evened out for me. But I remember we figured out that we got a, we got a very good breakfast. If we got there at nine, we could like really eat our fill. Oh yeah. Yeah, we had a giant buffet breakfast every day. That was fun. Oh, there was a drawer, a meat drawer. This, I mean, there's a lot to say about breakfast. We could do a whole.

But a charcutory in a, in a refrigerated drawer with a glass top. Yeah. So you could look in and they had mortadella. and they had like three or four different meats and a bunch of different cheeses and stuff and you'd look in through the top of the glass drawer, pull it out, grab the tongs, and just grab little rolls of mortadella.

It was, like every meal had the opportunity for just like some bread and butter with meat and a brie brick on top of it. Like it was just a big chunks of Swiss cheese as far as you can see. Fondue, we forgot out to talk about the fondue. I got fonduzled. Oh, when we went to,

You reclette stube. Yes. Reclette stube. That was very fun. All of us sitting around in a circle, dunking our bread into the fondue pot. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, you're sitting at a building. You're in this like a big curved booth right next to a fireplace. And that building was probably from the fucking 1700s. We don't get buildings that old where we're from. Yeah. You know, in L.A. You're lucky to get a building that was like 1900. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, here's the thing. We kind of were talking about this as we were leaving Zermot. And you know, you got that as you're leaving a place, when you first show up to a place, everything's brand new. And you're like, whoa, where do we get around? How does anyone know how to get around this town at all? And then when you leave, you're like, oh, I recognize this. And the place just kind of looks different to you. There's got to be a word for that or like a, that's like a something that happens in people's brains. Like what is that if you know? I think it's

Sturban blotten. Sturban blocking, I thought, was when you, uh, don't get your fucking crapes on time. Okay, how about blocking Sturban? Oh, you're right. I am. Like, you're describing like the distortion of familiarity or something. Yeah.

Yeah, something like that. But if, if anyone knows, like, like the guy who knew that McBling era was a thing. Like, there's got to be, he probably knows the aestheticist. Aesthetist. Now is your time. We ask you again. We come to you again. And it's so cool to just spend a whole week where it's just the little things.

You're like, hey, this light switch is weird. and then the next light switch you encounter is the same as that one. You're like, oh, okay, this is how they do light switches. Oh, and like the toilet flush. Oh, this whole hemisphere has gone fucking insane. The toilet flush is like a big button on the wall. Giant square button.

High up on the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have dumb Americans flicking it with their piss covered foot. It's like everybody, there's like the, there's a little flush, obviously, piss. And then a big flush, turds. Or thick pisses. Or big, I don't even. big thick viscous piss.

Europeans are in better shape so they can have the stretch to get their foot way up there to... The pointy toe leg of ballerina. The high kick. Yeah. But yeah, that is... There was something else like that that we encounter. Oh, the showerheads were good shower heads, but always placed weirdly like close to the wall. You turn the water on and the water blasts up in the room.

There's no shower door. Wrong place, wrong time for the shower heads. And then one thing I liked in our hotel specifically was that the room key, you use it to get in. And then as you come in where a light switch would be, you put your room key in and it powers on the room. So I think that's made to, for green reasons, that way when you leave and you take your room key with you, the room kind of shuts down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I felt like it was also just a reminder like, don't forget your key, my dude.

Don't forget your key. Don't forget your key. I'll tell you what was dazzling to me. I'm a spa guy. I'll go to Quebec by myself and go to some Nordic Spas on the mouth. You've been a spa go, I've heard. Spa go. These, we had at our hotel three outdoor heated pools so that it could be snowing and you're in a steamy hot pool.

Better than outdoor. Indoor outdoor. Yeah, you enter inside and walk through a door outside. Boy, that was fun. One of the pools was full on hot tub temperature. you know, like two of them were like 80 degrees and one was like 100 degrees. And that, I've never seen this before

where usually you're in a hot tub and there's some jets on the wall and you're like, I'm going to go put my back up against that jet. It'll feel nice. This had a whole length of one side of the pool had. It was like a metal rack. Frame rails. Yeah. Like a rack.

Creating sort of like a loungy bed where we could lay the three of us and up to probably 10 people could lay side by side. It's like a long loungy bed. And it was curved, so it kind of hugged your body. And it was like, our faces were out of the water. That was me, Tim. We're laying face up.

The front of our body is out of the water, but we're sort of a few inches submerged in the hot water. So therefore, you're facing up and your, and your whole back, there's jets, a million jets coming up from the bottom and pummeling your back. And like from the tube, from the metal tubes. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah, so like there's, you know, maybe maybe 20 feet of metal tubes that that create like a little like a big big long lengthwise recliner shape. Yeah. And then you sit on it and it looked like a deep fryer because it was like a bunch of little bubbles. Yeah.

You know, like just in that one spot of the pool. But just in that, just along one side of the pool and you go and you climb up onto these, these metal tubes. You told me that two days in a row, Jeff. We were the first day. you're like, hey, it feels like, we're like, French fries. I was like, yeah. Next day, you're like, hey, it's like a Jeep fry. I'm like, I know.

It still is. I'll see you tomorrow. Yes, guys. Well, they're still cooking the wings. Okay. Well, I really loved, like, typically I'm just like staying in a hotel doing nothing and then I get in the hot tub, but I felt like coming down from a day of skiing, which is laborous.

Taxing. Yeah. And you're like, oh, I've used weird muscles in weird ways. I'm going to be really sore tomorrow, but you come down. Oh, yeah. You use those little giblets on the insides of your legs. Yeah, all the little weirdies. You know, I only use maybe three, four muscles a day usually,

but I was getting into some obscure ones. But then your mouth, your brain, and your cock. Stop that. But it felt really good to come down from the mountain and then get into this outdoor hot tub. A, just like relaxing after having been up in the mountains. I felt smug like I really did something today. But then B, I'm like, it clicked for me like,

oh, that's what this is. stuff is for not to just be a sloth who lays around but it did was athletic recovery it's like repairing it's like muscle repair yes yeah the jets and the temperature it became crucial because i went for a third day with mike eventually and it was like i don't know if i could do this without taking a steam and a soak but you would wake up so much less sore and i was still sore but i was like yes i was still like boy if i didn't have this stuff i'd be no yeah i mean we were sore but i feel like you'd be totally fucked up if you didn't spend an hour having all like, Jeff, is it lactic acid you mentioned? I feel like the- Yeah, I guess it's like working out the lactic acid

and just bouncing us around. It really, really, it helped. And then I felt like that was great. It's so vacation-y. And for us who've been on tour for a year and like touring is the most fun thing ever and we have a blast, but it's you're always like check it into a hotel, checking out of a hotel, rushing to get to sound check and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It was so nice to get into that, that vacation rhythm of like, okay, we wake up at 9 o'clock, we gorge ourselves at the buffet. Then we take an hour to get ready in our rooms and whatever. Then it's like, you go out for four hours. You guys skiskeed every day.

I didn't ski every day, but like I'd go walking around over. But then to be back by like, or like, Opry ski, get drunk at four. And then be back in the evening to be in the spa unwinding. You're like, this is the way to live, man. That was also cool because the, the, town felt like, or the slopes closed at about 4.30, like when the sun was going down. So it just felt like there was this kind of, it was a little, not like crazy, but just like, it felt like this rush of people coming off the mountain to go into the bars or like the

spots. Like, okay, we all did this. The whole day is ending for everyone. And I like a sleepy town that like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's basically, Opry ski is sort of like a happy hour vibe. We're at four, like, like bars open at two. There's a couple people in there. But then as the mountain closes at four, it gets packed. Then everybody's dancing, singing, drinking all these crazy German drinks. And you're cross-eyed by like seven. So then people are going back to the hotels. The bars weren't open late. It was a sleepy town. It wasn't a late night town. And like the couple of places that we did kind of try and go out, we did find some dance clubs and stuff like that, which were really fun. Oh, some locals invited us to a party that one time. That was fun.

That was fun. That was like the local after party up. Mike, you and I came off the slopes passing the hotel. Oh, God, what was it called? Crave. Oh, Central? Oh, the name of the place. Oh, I don't remember. Zero.

Yes, I know what you're talking about. Servo. Servo. Charvo. Charvo. Tom Servo. Tom Servo. C-R-V-O.

M-T-3-K. But Mike and I came off the slopes and they were like, and we're like, no, no, we better get back to to make sure he's okay. He's been eating ribbys all day. We've got to check. I want to say like that very night, a bartender was just like,

hey, you should come up to this secret party. This is sort of the locals only thing. To servo? And we got a couple. Like, we talked to some like Australians at the bar that were like, hey, we're going to this party if you guys want to come. And then we're like, I don't think we're going to go to the party.

Then we're hanging out late. Because they made it sound complicated. They were like, there's the secret elevator where you use this code to use it after hours. And we're like, eh, it seems a little much. But then we kept hanging and then with the bar, the bar tender was some young dude who he was like, hey, when I get off my shift,

I'm going to this party if you guys want to go. And he told us about the same party. He's like, my friend's DJing and I'm going to be going crazy in the corner. You will? I got to see this. But it was, it was great because it was like,

it was like a party for the people that lived at, that worked at the mountain. So we saw the grumpy girl that sold us our passes. And she was like up there, like kind of wearing like a going out top and like, you know. She's like, sorry for the angst. Sorry, I was giant beach.

It really did feel like vacation town movie or something. Like you, to recognize people, like familiar faces from, from around. The grumpy lift girl was the only other girl who kind of gave us a little bit of flack for being stupid Americans. Oh, she was right. It was funny. That's like, oh, crap, I lost my train of thought. Oh.

Have another sip of Opensilla. Yeah, yeah. This is such, this is good. This is delicious. Well, we got to do a round two. Let's get, you know what we should do. How about this? Let's wrap this episode up.

And we're saying, come on over folks. So though, the, behind the paywall over there at the Discord or the Patreon. We're going to be still talking about Zermat stuff. We're going to give you the good stories. Yes, patreon.com slash the sloppy boys, the blowout. We're doing an episode about the movie ski school. But I want to talk about the opera ski scene that we, experience out on the slopes. Let's talk about the operate, uh, operate this break. We,

we could get into that. Love that. Yeah, yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll tease it and then we'll really behind the paint while wild out. You're going to put anything in these in, in your drink? I, uh, I actually have two very strange sodas I normally have squirt and Dr. Pepper. And I kind of think maybe the 23 flavors of Dr. Pepper could work well with the 42 flavors of up and Zeller. That's going to be a lot. It might be too many. it might be too many flavors. It might be teetering around 65 taste drinks. 6070 flavors, but is that left over from our Mormon sodas?

Yes, it is. So I think I'll do Oppenzeller with just like a splash of Dr. P. Flavors are popping out. They're like, well, this is too many fucking flavors for even us, the flavors. Like Jefferson. It broke my glass. I'm going to, I love this stuff just on the rocks, but I'm this time, I think I'm going to top it off with a little bit of Badger Bev's ginger ale.

Oh, I would like that. Oh, shit. I just bought a Schweps grape like ginger ale. Ooh, I'm going to use a little of that. Grape ginger. I love Schweb's grape, dry grape. I think it's, I think that's what it was. Or maybe it's raspberry.

I forget. Now, I was happy to see Furnet and Coke, Frenet so widely available. Oh, yeah. More widely available than it is on tour sometimes for us. But love a Furnet and Coke. And one mixture that I saw pop up last year, just around the good little US of A is,

is Frenet and ginger ale. So I think Openzeller ginger ale would be a good minute. Yes, yes. I've seen that. I've seen chefs and the bear types in the restaurant industry drinking frenet

either with the ginger beer back or full on putting the ginger beer in there. I think it's, yeah. Are you guys putting this in the freezer, this stuff? Not me or I didn't. Kenna, it's 29% out by va. Yeah, it won't.

It can go in the freezer. It's alpine, yeah. Yeah. But here's the thing, Mike, it's a beautiful bottle. You want that on your shelf so your guests can see and say, hey, you're so worldly. Ah, I ain't having it. It's too snowy to have guests. I tell you, I got some Swiss souvenirs, like some Matterhorn, like magnets and Swiss flags and ashtrays and stuff.

And I like at Calpies hideaway. Ooh, you got that ashtray? Was it the one I got two ashtrays and two lighters just in case of my snores over? But, um, that's fun. I, uh, there's a nice dichotomy now with. all the Hawaiian stuff I have at Calpies hideaway. You throw in some Swiss Alps. It's like, this is Hemingway.

You know, this guy does it. Around the world. Thank you. All right, folks. We'll be right back with more of the sloppy boys. I pray this. Act, round two, up and Zeller in hand. I'll say, uh, this Dr.

Pepper works okay. It's not like I stumbled into a genius cocktail, but, um, they jive. Works well enough for a pie. I stumbled into a genius. cocktail ginger ale, badger beves, ginger ale topped off. This is magical. Oh, it's got to be badger. Oh, you got your drink beverageized.

Exactly. What would you do, Mike? Wouldn't it be badgerized? Why did we go beverages? Why did we, why did the research dictate that that was what it is? Lots of times I'm drinking a drink. It's not beverageized. It sucks. Yeah, you went with Bev's instead of badger. That's fun. We, the, us and the, the advertising branding department. I did the I did two small

splashes one big splash of Schwepp's dry grape and I thought they discontinued that stuff I love that stuff oh it's out there

I got it from like a bodega so I might be very old from the 90s from the 90s this is I like a little bit of the the bubbles are fun in this

it's a Swiss grape egg yeah That is good. That adds a little, a little tinge of something. But my, my dull tongue can't parse out the flame. Oh, stop. You have a wonderful palate. His dumb tongue.

The way that some people are tone deaf, his tongue is like that. I'm tongue toned. Oh, deaf. My sweets come across as sours, my boy. Sorry, Tim, I interrupted. You were about to say, and I interrupted. you know what was an interesting thing that happened to me on this trip is one of the days that you guys went skiing without me you know i kind of walked around the town a little bit happened me and ask you what you've been up to yeah when you walked around those days well i mean there was one time we ate at this wonderful french restaurant called chay max julein and what an experience my god so much yeah that was fun i mean i had deer jeff had schnitzel mike had chicken we each had our own little pots of sauce with fire under it was i mean i had deer jeff had schnitzel mike had chicken we each had our own little pots of sauce with fire under

them to ladle on it? Yeah. We also got to say, even though our server was brusk, let's say, he came around. He liked us very much by the end. And I think it's just what they do out here. We were able to look down and see that they were cooking the meat at the fireplace. And we had a clear view of the fireplace of the meat being cooked. Open fire dining room cooking the food. And like they would, before your plate showed up, they would come up with a tray of vegetables and like your size would be the roast vegetables and you just see them and it's like showing you a bottle of wine before you uncork it and then you're like yes and you're like peas and carrots you're like yes you're like yes I agree put them back in put them back in the pot my boy they're not done yet and then and then they came up with

the deer and we're just like and this is what the deer will be and you're like yes it looks like deer to me in that case at least is like I had ordered it medium rare and then I could say I'm like oh they're showing me how it's cooked but it was funny they showed us everything. Yeah. The French fries are most yellow and deep. And then they would take these special trays off to the side of the room where we could just see them carve.

It's like, it's not like they brought it all the way back to the kitchen. They just like brought it off to the sides and then plated and then brought you your plate and you say, thank you delicious. And when we finish eating, they came back around and they were like, would anybody like some more deer?

There's more deer. From like other tables at sea. I don't know. Just like, this was the deer we cooked for the night. We weren't eating off of other tables. but it was like, yeah. And there's more.

I experienced this once in France where it was like, I had like steak frets and then they came around to like, would you like more? And I was like, oh sure. And they gave me another scoop. I think though, I think this is a tradition. This was a French restaurant. I think it's a traditional French thing. But I think that Europeans eat small portions

and they don't always eat every free thing that's offered to them. They didn't reckon on three Americans showing up. Hungry, Bowen. I think when they say, if they're like, would you like another scoop of something, some, other Europeans would be like maybe you're all of this or not but like they were like you want more fries I was like yeah and you guys were like yeah we're like one more pasta vegetables were like yeah and

they're like yeah and then they were like was there meats you didn't try like like like we're shit you want to try eating the tablecloth I mean we we eventually all had everything because I got we ate rack of lamb for free yeah yeah yeah you know I had schnitzel you guys got some schnitzel and Mike you had the and so now we're we're using all the sauces on all the meats and then And this guy has the nerve to come up and say, well, the chef has prepared some apricot brandy.

He made this. He made it. Brandy degestif, Digestivo, if you guys need some help digesting. And we're like, we do need help. We do need help.

We all had too much deer. Show it to us like the other items. Show it to us. Take it away and bring it back. But then a great, messy interaction is we, we had the homemade, the appra.

apricot DJ Steve and then the owner guy the cook who had cooked their meal comes up to see like hey everything was okay I grew all this all these animals on my farm

and then I said I was like hey did you make that apricot liqueur and then he was like yeah and he took it as if like we hadn't had it and he was like do you guys want around and we were like yeah he's like I'll do a shot with you

and then we're like yeah and then he goes and he tells our waiter like give those guys the apricot stuff. And then our waiter comes over. He's like, hey, guys, you know, I comp to you that first round. But then the owner says you guys want more. I'm going to have to charge you.

And we had already cashed out. And we're like, we're like, fine. We'll, we'll pay for this round. And then the owner comes and does a shot with us that we pay for us. Just exactly that messy language barrier type shit. We're like, we don't know. Yeah. And as he was telling all three of us are just like, yes, yes.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do whatever. Whatever you say. Like our waiter, when we're ordering. drinks. Jeff was like all about like a stine of beer and the guy

he's like a 24 year old Frenchman looks at me and Mike he goes three large steins of beer and we're like no we want different different things. He would come up. I don't know if this is a language barrier thing or what but he would come up or if he was making like just being like American with us but

he came up and he was like so let me everything is amazing we're loving everything you're like you want more it's so amazing and I was like oh, is he making fun of like, people who are just like, oh, this is amazing? Or is just like he knows that one thing.

I think it's just the word he uses. The tone is just different. Yeah. Also, a lot of people saying okay, weirdly in a way that felt like, instead of being like, okay, it was a little more like a statement, like this is okay with you. It felt like they were exasperated, but I think it was just like the intonation of the language or something.

I was like, is this okay with you that I'm eating here? What, man? Should I go wait outside? The thing he tried, like when he tried to say we would all have beers and then we're like, no, Mike wants a gin and tonic and Tim wants something weird. Same thing with the entrees. Mike was like all of the chicken and I was like all of the deer. And then he looks at Jeff and he goes, and you'll have the beef to round it out. And Jeff was like, well, I wanted schnitzel.

He's like, oh, oh, okay. Like, yeah, he was a strange dude. He also had like, he had like, he looked like Gerard Way. He had like the emo swoop. And his hair just like pulled out on the side, like jelled and stuck out. Yeah. Anyway, there was a ribeye on that menu. I liked him eventually.

Yeah, we liked him eventually. Eventually. We loved them. What I didn't like is, and I, the whole time across from us was a couple of the parents and like, I would guess maybe a college girl in college who was, I think from what I could glean, like, had just gotten dumped or something like that. And she was like crying throughout the whole meal and figuring something out. And the parents were sobbing a little bit. Yeah.

The parents had nothing to offer. It was a very European thing to watch. It felt pretty German. It was wild. Like, just try, yeah. They were like our daughter is emoting.

And then our server was still like serving. And then it was, yeah, the server was just kind of doing his going through his, because it is like a little presentation for all the crafts. It was funny for him to have to like a girl with tears in her eyes. They were like, vegetables are two you like.

Are these carrots cooked enough for you? heartbroken damsel. I said, you'd ask her out, man, ask her out. He's a, he's got a job. He's very friendly. He's got the hair. He's got that rock and roll hair. I'm sure you love.

It was very funny that, so there was a rib eye on that menu that I didn't have because I had the deer. So then the next day when you guys were skiing, I went back, sat at the counter, ate by myself, had the ribeye delicious. But I saw the old gang. That made Jeff and I very happy. were the whole time we were like that whole morning we're like not he didn't get my thing is he happy is he does he hate us does he hate this trip we just get we got to get him a beef rib it was so funny to see

that waiter again this time with no product in his hair a little bit deflated like oh hello you're back and then the he's like tim i am not feeling amazing today i'm not amazing for once i am not amazing for once dining solo at the counter the food was delicious but i didn't get all the panache. They didn't bring me apricot, digestiefs. They didn't feed me extra meats.

They kind of got me in and out. This was lunchtime. Were other tables getting the full service? Or was it just because it was? Yeah, I think it's just they keep it kind of soul. I was sitting next to guy

who was playing solitaire on his phone. Well, they may have been all reminded of the tip we left for him. They're like, don't give this guy. Let's not give these three anymore freebies. Tipping in general, bizarre. Lots of places, you got that little

machine, then there's no tipping going on and then you get great service. And then when I come back here in New York, I'm like, hey, they're like, sir, it's customary tip. Like, not in Europe, but they got to figure it out over there, okay? This country's a fucking mess. I've been abroad. This is a mess.

Well, you still have to, even if you're not going to tip, you have to pay for the drink itself. And this is a fucking mess. You shouldn't have to. If you tip, you shouldn't have to pay for the product. Uber already ordered. Uber's ordered. I'm in. I say, go fast. I'll pay me any ticket. So there I am.

I ate a rib-by by myself. You guys are skiing. I'm walking around the town by myself. I go into a record shop. Okay. Well, I didn't see a record shop. Yeah, because all you had on the brain was swish, swish ski. Yeah, you're right.

Pizza, fries. Hot dog? Pizza fries. Hot dog taco. Oh. Hot dog taco? French fried cassidia. Now, they had some amazing stuff in the shop.

and I was reminded, I don't know if you guys have seen the Beatles anthology, but I watched it when I was a kid and I got the CDs and they talk about this thing about how the Beatles, they recorded German versions of their hits to play Germany. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to

hold your hand. She loves you. A lot of those love me do. They did German versions. Well, I was surprised to see, I'm looking and poking around this record shop. Did you know that they have Swiss versions of Beatles songs? No. no Swiss versions

I found a Swiss version of the white album they kept calling us the Swiss virgins and we're like well we're not from here first of all you're not Swiss and we've been laid we've been laid once each and we're American we've been laid once

not twice not thrice but four times each I don't know what to make of this but I brought back the Swiss version of the Beatles white album oh you brought back do no no perfect do no yes

yes and I was thinking I haven't listened yet but I was thinking maybe if we wanted to give it a listen to see what I don't know what the Swiss versions

would sound like but maybe we throw on I don't know I can't imagine track three maybe we listen to why not just yeah randomly just do

side three track three yeah Beatles white album side three two LPs track three. Let's give it a shot.

I don't know. Side three. Track three. Okay. I've blowing the dust off. Setting it on the platter. The needle is coming down right now. When I get to the bottle and it's black when I'm looking inside and I sip and I snurp and I go cross-eyed till I get to the bottle and I drink you again.

Yum, yum, yum. Well, do, do you want me to chug you? I'm gulping down fast, but I smile and glug you. Tell me, tell me, tell me, come on, tell me the answer. Is it true that you contain 42 r? I'm in Zeller. Oh, yeah. Op and Zeller.

There's the, there's the. translation there. Helpen bitter. Oh, John came in at the end. Yeah, that was all Paul until the end. So you had to pull John away from... Oh, it's Swiss. It was the Swiss version of Helter Skelter.

Oh. Yeah, it's funny because I was thinking, oh, they'll sing it in Swiss. Right. They just changed lyrics. They made it about a liqueur. You don't really sing in Swiss. Swiss isn't a language per se.

you know, like we said, they speak German and French and English. And Romance. One percent of the population speaks Romance we saw in Wikipedia. Romance. Yeah. I could have been speaking Romance that whole time. Oh, no, you're fluent in Romance. You've been doing Romance Rosetta Stone.

Oh, Jeff, you could have used it. What a waste. Is this Romanian? It's like an outdated, doesn't exist anymore, Swiss language called Romance. Oh. Oh. Happens out.

That's a good fine, Tim. That was a good find. Good podcasting. Very good find. It was interesting. Appenzella. Well, what are our final thoughts on Appenzella? Oof.

Order again. I love it. I love Amaro. I love Croyder liqueur. And now I love Alpin Bitter. I love all this shit. I love Dijest Thiefs. Amarro.

Amaro. Tim loves you. Amaro. Well, I love it as well. I'm happy. We found a bottle. at the duty free on the way out of town. Oh, yeah.

And we were able to bring back, you know, we got Sloppy Boys LLC paid for a New York bottle and an L.A. bottle. But I'm curious, I would buy some more just maybe because I had such a good time in Switzerland and I like to fondly remember it sit by sip. Could I find this at a Bevmo or something? I bet. You know what this, this bottle is a good candidate for you ever see on Instagram? It's like, it's like, here's how you take.

your favorite drink can make into a glass. And it's like you take a let's say Johnny Walker bottle and they etch around the edge and then put it in like ice cold water. It breaks off perfectly the thing and they sand it down. And it's like, oh, the bottle is now a glass.

This would be perfect. This Apenzeller bottle will be perfect for something like that. This bottle is now a glass. I wish a Maro Montenegro, same thing. Beautiful green bottle. Oh, yeah. That's a nice.

That fluted bottle. I wish that bottle was a glass. You know what's a green bottle I've been looking for? and I'm fucking surprised I haven't found one. I got to check the beer cave in my local grocery store.

A grulsh. You know a grulsh bottle? It's got that metal top thing that pops off. The flap. Yeah, the top flap. Yes, and the little rubber thing for your guitar.

You need the little rubber thing. I need one more of those things for my, for my base. You put it, if you don't know this, folks, when you put your strap on your guitar,

this is kind of a, I think it's originated in like the English punk scene because it's like they drink these. They drink those types of bottles of beer. But you take the little rubber stopper part, you know, put your strap on and on the little peg and then put that stopper over that.

So it keeps your strap right on there. It's a little rubber grommet. A little rubber washer. It's like the perfect size. It's great. I use those. Amin Zerukian from Don't Stopper What I taught me about that.

Mike, I didn't realize you play a Reverend guitar's brand bass. So you're a man of the cloth. Reverend guitars, I have been saved. We all got Reverend guitars. They're beautiful. I can see Jeff's in behind him. Oh, does turquoise sparkle? Yeah, yeah.

Mine, we're seeing the old Fender Mustang here because mine was sent to L.A. I got to play for those Rosenstock and Chris Ferron shows. That's right, folks. I'm holding on to the Reverend base. You know, I don't know. I got to get out to L.A. to play this damn thing. Jeff, just let me, let me, because I've been wanting to practice and try one. let me just fax you a bunch of scales I might try to practice on.

Practice those for me. Just let me know how it goes. I'll print them out. I'll practice them and see how the base responds to them. And then I'll just know those that you just tell me how it went. Oh, okay. That's all? Yeah.

And maybe Mike, you play that Reverend Bass when we're playing live shows in March, starting March 20th. We're going to be in Los Angeles, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Denver, Dallas, Houston, come see those shows. The band, the band, the band's on tour. Oh, yes. Wow, Jeff just sent us an Appenzeller link.

It's not just, it's like gin, and I didn't know they had all this stuff. I just sent it because this, in the top left corner, they have a picture for Appenzeller, Alpenbitter. But there's like, it looks like a Irish coffee almost. There's like a head of cream on top of a thing with a spoon in it. This would be good in coffee.

I want to know what. they're doing. Man, I gotta say, I'll save it for the, the blowout. So everyone subscribe at patreon.com slash

Stoppy Boys, listen to our ski school episode because we got a ski theme this week. But I want to talk about, I spent the whole week looking at the shelves and asking the bartender,

what's that weird one? What's that weird one? I encountered so many wonderful new drinks on this tour. Remember, like the red vodka and the pastis and the genope and all this shit?

Yep, the red vodka. What a fun fucking... That's my favorite thing to do. To the point where some bartenders were weirded out, I'd be like, what's that bottle there? And the guy would like get up close and look and be like, I don't know. You don't know.

You know what's fun? This on the Alpenzeller website, they've got a fun section, like fun spirits section. They've got little, ooh, a little mini kind of Underbergi type things, but different... I can't read all this stuff. I don't know what it says.

It appears that Venmo does not carry up in Zollars. This doesn't bode well for listeners getting to ever try this stuff. Ooh. Did she say one time send a Venmo to Bevmo? That might work. Thanks for the son.

They can find it. I bet some intrepid slopheads can find it. I don't know, folks. I mean, we can't fucking buy it and drink it for you. Find the fucking shit. Meet us halfway. Also, we're being cool.

We're cool. We're being cool Anthony Bordains in this case. We're showing or shining a light on some cool. And we sing like Anthony. ketis. We did the work. We took the eight-hour trip. Look, they couldn't find Wuliang-Ye either, but we did that.

True. By you. Mike, did you give your final thoughts? Did we just transition into plugging the springtree? Here's my fucking final thoughts. Folks, this podcast moves pretty quick. Get on board or get the fuck out of our way. Get the drink. Don't get the drink. Listen to the episode.

Folks, if you're two hours deep on this show. Would you keep it down for a second? I'm really on one here. Oh, Mike's going to talk now. I am so pissed right now. Find me on the negative. Find me on the blow. I'm going to, I'm pissed.

Find me on the blow. This is a new vibe for 2026. We're pissed. This train is moving whether you're on or off. We don't give, we don't give a fuck. Yeah, folks. If you're two hours deep on this episode and you're not on board,

fuck you. Yep. From now on, it's either chew chew, or fuck you. We got to talk about the trains too. But on the blowout, folks,

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