The Sloppy Boys - 290. Pisco Punch

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

The guys tackle a deceptively strong cocktail created at the Bank Exchange Saloon in Gold Rush–era San Francisco.PISCO PUNCH RECIPE: 2oz/60ml PISCO.75oz/22ml PINEAPPLE JUICE .5oz/15ml SIMPLE SYRUP.5oz/15ml LEMON JUICE 1oz/30ml WHITE WINE 3 whole CLOVESGently mash the syrup with the cloves. Add remaining ingredients (except wine) to a shaker with ice. Shake vigorously and double strain into large goblet. Add wine on top.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association | www.iba-world.comWANT MORE SLOP? Check out:PatreonSHOP the webstore at:The Sloppy Boys WebsiteLISTEN to The Sloppy Boys hit songs on:Apple MusicSpotifyYoutubeTOUR DATES, SOCIALS and more at:LinktreeT H E   S L O P P Y   B O Y S   L L CExpand Ascend Conquer Retain Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh, Tim, if I remember, excuse me, if I remember I'll bring this, I'll sleep when I'm dead book for you, you can have it. Oh, nice. It's the Warren Zvon. You guys like Warren Z. I like Warren G. That's, I guess, the only difference between us. Ready? Hey, folks, welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Michael Hanford.

Doop, do, do, do, do, do. Tim Calpacquez. What is up? Where your host is sloppy boys. Oh, yeah. Now, I'm wondering, Jeff, the reason I did that, I'm wondering if we're going to keep in that little pre-show talk we just did. It was a nice little moment.

Yeah, we're going to have to. I wonder if it's going to stay in. It's going to see, it's up to Mielan's discretion, which the more or more we're giving Mieland discretion, the more anxious I get. I mean, you give enough rope he's going to hang himself. You've got to be very careful over it. He's going to take over the show one of these things.

As long as I keep my 33%. Yeah. We were supposed to do. Mieland had an idea for t-shirts where they have a gray square on them. If you stand in solidarity with old people, the Jimmy's been bullied. Oh, yeah. We've got to print those up. Those are good.

We got to print those out before, I mean, that's an easy one to replicate. Yeah, the bootleggers are going to have a field day with that. Bootleggers are going to love. We're making it too easy for the bootlegger. Oh, Meelein also had a great idea of holding on to some. Drink background talk until segment two. Is that a little too inside baseball to discuss on? We talked about that.

I like that idea. We've done that every so often. You mean like the history and stuff? Should we do it today? Maybe we do it today. Yeah. That's fucking awesome, man. What?

Yeah. I've never seen you like this. You're getting me going now. Is this like to the guys on the bar stool? podcasts act like this. I turned in once. I tuned in once to SmartList and the guys were like,

I think it was Tickle Day. Right. I don't know what the hell Tickle Day was, but they're like, it's Tickle Tuesday. Okay, dude's. Now, hold on. Before we, I have one little sort of an agenda here in shit chat.

Tim, I found a song that, boy, I think it might just be right up your alley. Really? Hello. I can't believe you haven't heard before. I'm right here, Mike.

You'll have your alley too, but no, no, no. The alley for you is, I'm still looking for your alley. I'm trying to find out. What makes Jeff go? Now, what does Mike turn me on? No, Jeff's the one who turned me on to Alex Cameron, played Marlon Brando, and I loved it. Now, Mike, I told you about Hawaiian shirts.

You love those. You, the last time you tried to turn me on to music, it was that rapper who says, I keep a tidy room for Heidi Klum. MC Paul Barman? I met him. MC Paul Barman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw him the other day when I was seeing, Sarangetti.

I saw Serengetti, the guy who sings that Chicago song we love. We should say the name of it because it's a good one. Denahey. Denahy is the name of the song. Anyway, this song came up in my Spotify, my, no, Apple, I'm an Apple guy. My Apple playlist, like best is what Mike's listening to some stations for him. Today, I'd never heard this song before. play this song here, Jeff, and it's by the Eagles, the band The Eagles.

Okay. They say it's your birthday by the Beatles. So this is very clearly like a B-Sidey type thing you'd never hear. Never heard. I already like it. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. This rules.

The Greeks don't want no freaks. The Greek. Yeah. Yeah. So I think what this is about is, Jevi you can cut it because I think it's a little loud on my, holy shit. I think what it is,

they're talking about like Greek life, like frat life. Because they're talking about like beers and drinking on the floor and or puk it on the floor and stuff. But I had never heard that song before. And it is such like for the Eagles who are so like, oh, in the 70s with like desperado and oh my God.

And this like, but the Greeks don't want no freaks. I'm not exactly sure what the freaks refers to because it's a pretty short song and the lyrics I read. It's pretty average, you know, college just barfing on the floor and stuff like that. Maybe the, yeah, overdoing it as a freak. Oh, those types of freaks. Do you know if that was very early eagles or very late eagles? No, I haven't looked into it too much.

I just, I just heard it today. Did they arrive to that sort of thing very slowly over like a storied career? That's where they ended up. Yeah, I love it's, that's kind of a classic party rock sound. But it's even taps into what I love about. Bob Seeger Catmandu. But, but yeah,

I was like, a Greek freak. This could be my new anthem. The Greeks. Don't want, no, but it's also got that kind of like Louis Louis,

maybe it's Louis, but like that front rock, like, whatever that organ kind of like question mark and the Mysterians or the animals that organ. We used to play when we,

the birthday boy sketch group was at UCB. A lot of our blackout music was like classic. party type shit like that. Like 96 tiers is the organ I'm thinking of. Oh yeah. I love that.

Damn, that shit's the best. I got to listen to some more of that. Every once in a while I'll like do a playlist and just write in like oldies in my search bar. And it's like it will give me what I'm looking for like that type of stuff or do what am I looking for like am I looking for like what was on the oldie station when I was growing up. Is that like 60s, early 60s music? well that specific party rock you're talking about that's like the first half of the 60s yes yeah okay but oldies is such a broad uh i know broad term now but um fucking metallica is oldies now i've got a playlist i could share uh with you that's um that is that type specifically like

you can't really search for like organ driven snarky party rock but i have i have a bunch of them in a playlist that's really good but is it songs i've heard before are they all or is it like uh deep stuff. You know, like, I only want the hits because that's all I know. I think you would hear him before if you were hanging out with me 15 years ago, which you were. I was. It's like double shot of my baby's love and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. But hey, have you guys ever seen the Instagram account where a guy just goes to bars and he's seen if they're a Seeger bar? He's just rolling video. He goes into a bar. He goes in different dive bars and he orders a beer. And then,

then asks if they can play some Bob Seeger. And if they play Bob Seeger, he like gives them like a sticker that's like a badge. Like they're officially a Seeger bar. And if they can't do it, he's like, damn, not a Seeger bar. I was thinking like, oh, you must look at the jukebox. But it's like, no, just is a bar willing to like go to their Spotify iPad and fire up some Seeger for this one guy? And it's funny to see like a lot of the bartender's faces because at a sports bar, they're really used to being asked to like, could you put this specific game on the TV by us? or whatever.

So it's kind of funny. It's kind of has that same tone. Like, can you play Bob Seeger? And a lot of them are like, what? And then it's funny to hear what they play. I'm sure a lot of them are just like typing in the name Bob Seeger, but like, it's not always the same song. And like, and sometimes it's like an album cut.

You're like, oh, shit. Seeger's got some jams too. He pops up on my spot on my, I say Spotify like it's Uber these days. I'm not on Spotify. I'm Appleman. I'm Appleman. You say Spotify like it's Uber. Do you say Uber as if it's Band-Aid?

I say Uber as if it's Band-Aid, yes, or tissue or Coke or whatever. Or tissue or Coke. I'm sorry, sorry, Kleenex, Kleenex, Kleenex. Can we please get off this, Jeff? Get me out of here. A good host, Jeff, saves. No, you guys love talking about this old shit. This is what it's like in the van, guys.

They talk about old shit that I'm like, yeah, I guess I'll remember to ask my dad or granddad about that stuff. Yeah, Jeff's like, hey, did you hear about the latest shoe that Kendrick wore? What? Who's the collab with? You know what's with BAPE. Come on, let's get on to the next topic. Say one, you don't even know. You don't even know what's new and young.

No, folks, we're going. Name the youngest thing you can think of. Me, Laboooo Boo Boo. Name the youngest thing you can think of. Chudmaxing. Oh, we just heard about this. our friend who has a middle school stepson. What was his friend was saying?

His friend was being lazy on the couch and he said that he was chud maxing. He accused his friend of chud maxing. So chud means lazy guy? Oh, I miss lazy guy. Chuds come from the movie Chud, C-H-U-D, cannibalistic humanoid underground dweller. Old movie? Yeah, like an 80s movie. I think Daniel Stern's in it.

But yeah, it's like a bunch of underground little freaks. Like the people who live in the subways, right? Yeah, if you were to descend so far that you were underground, you'd be a chud. Wow. You have to live there. You have to dwell there. It's crazy that's the new lingo because back in my day, I would have said that that friend was rotting. But nope, that he's chud maxing.

Well, to begin some booze-ness. Boo-bib-bib-bib-bib-bib-bib-bib. Boos news hit it. Make me a hem and away Dachoree Baby Make me a hem and weigh Dacquerie I already know this is Tim's little band

Make me a ham and wave You should be a shame To not have maraschino Whatever you don't got in your Bar liquor store You'll see Cocktail To silly geese

Ooh some honks Hemingway Dackery by geese Was sent to us by Danny Noonan From the Slobby Boys Discord And if you have a booze news theme email To the sloppy boys podcast at gmail.com Ooh, I like that

By Geese by Danny Noon Yeah, he sent it to us They made it It's like the whatever quote that is That's Wayne Gretzky Michael Scott. It also kind of reminds you we've been doing lately

the Commons by Avalon brought to you. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Those like multi-purpose communities where it's like oh yeah, it's the hotel as part of

the complex as part of the downtown area and they all have like weird little names. Just Where is the strip club? God. Geez, I go through all this. Oh, the strip club brought to you by tits and, uh, co-written by ass. What the hell is going on? A tits subsidiary brought you by ass.

Underwritten by a pub. A pub company. From the good people at Pube. A Pube company. I mean, that is a brand I trust. She's, if the Pube people are doing. I'm on board. Bush, a pub company.

Bush, a pub company. That's good. Bush, a pub company? Come on. That's pretty good. Now, do you hear pub got bought up by Bush? Everybody ends up working for big Bush. Okay.

Here's some really big booze news, guys, because this is a really important topic. Oh, shit. Really close to the hearts of the sloppy boy. Everybody, we've been trying to raise awareness. Listeners sit down. If you're driving, pull over the car. Tim, continue.

And for us, this is actually a huge victory. Listen to this headline. California woman sues carnival cruise lines and is awarded $300,000 for being overserved. Fuck! That's right. It's a real thing. A 45-year-old nurse went on a cruise.

Great. Wonderful. Fantastic. Trying to enjoy yourself. Trying to maybe cut loose, blow off some steam. Kind of like that lady you went to Dodger Stadium with plans to enjoy herself at Disney World. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. We sympathize with these women. But now the problem is this lady's wonderful plan was thrown off by these, we talked about before, unruly, ridiculous bartenders. Irresponsible. Dacity. I'm going to show up to my boss. I'm going to give so many drinks away. Sell so many drinks.

My boss is going to think I'm great. All I care about in the world is that my boss holds me in high esteem. Yeah. Yes, yes. Work, work, corporate culture, rise and grind all day long. Impress the boss by how much you can give away. For money. I tried to pivot to sell, but it was too late.

Boss, I gave away a lot of beers. What? For money, you idiot. Oh. you idiot to the boss. That's at the end of the day every single day tallying up the money.

Oh yeah. So these bartenders, they serve this poor innocent woman 14 tequila shots in an eight hour period. Whoa. And she asked for them. She asked for them.

Yes, she went to the bar and ordered them and paid for them. But I'm wondering that these are some of the same bartenders that are plaguing the bars in those things. I was going to say.

I feel like I could have bumped into one of these guys this past Saturday night. I got half of mine to go back to 20 or 30 of the bars around here. You should call the news. You should call a reputable news sources. Like, hey, we've got more of the story. We can move on this story. I might have a hot lead for you. It's every bar near me.

Just come with me. Bring your company card. Bring the Times, New York Times card. You're putting push bins in a map and they're just like piling up in your neighborhood. 20 thick. What the fuck is going on here? So, no, she won and she got $300,000. And Carnival Cruise Lines is appealing because their defense and they think they should win this.

So they're going back to court with it. But they said that the woman was, she was unable to identify the bartenders that served her. And then she was also. In a lineup? Like a murderer? in a lineup, for real. I had a line. And she was also not able to identify the bars on the ship that she had been drinking at either.

But I feel like a lot of this alcohol had something to do with it. Did she do something that, like, made her, did she get, like, in trouble and got, you know, in trouble on the ship? Like, she did something crazy. And then they brought her the brig or whatever. And it was like, oh, well, you did it. What was the thing she did? Brought her to the brig.

They made her walk the plank after she, I don't know, peaked in the jacuzzi or something, man. Those are still like the sea loss. Hey, it's still a seafaring ship. Cruise or not. And they still are the names of the... Look, they need to stop victim blaming. Enough is enough. You need to stop overserving.

I agree. And this was... You agree. Good. There's a... This is on the... of a nastier case. So it's kind of hard.

It's been, it's, A, I think there is an element to being at international waters. So the legality is kind of weird. But there is, like when we're talking about the precedent with the court case over the Lynchburg lemonade,

you know, you got to like, you've got to rulings are based on precedent. So we're in the middle of, this is coming on the heels of like a much nastier case where a Royal Caribbean served a guy like 33 drinks in 12 hours. and it got really nasty and this altercation, the guy died and it was whole fucked up fucking thing. But so, so, so, so, but I do think that over service is now sort of in the crosshairs of the courts.

And this is a problem that is finally getting the awareness it deserves. Wow. You know what? This is maybe a good idea because it shines a light on this other problem I want to highlight underserving where you're standing at a bar forever and the drinks ain't coming. Mm-hmm. You know? I hate that.

We went out to a birthday party. recently, the three of us. And it was at a bar where there was a biking group, like, coming in. Oh, God. That was nuts. And we got, and it was like nonstop, just all these people. And right when we got there, right when I got there is when they all showed up. I was like, oh.

And I got behind a long line of just like bikers getting. Oh, a mob. Like suddenly there's a hundred dudes with, uh, in biking pants. Cycling. Yeah. Bicyclists, we should say. Not, not leather. bike dudes. Not bikers, cyclists. Skiddy cyclists. And also like not even real

serious cyclists. It was sort of one of those like a fun booze cycle. Like a run club. Like a run club. Right, right, right. The, the idea is to end at the boo. I'm trying to get out of the house and maybe find myself a wife. I mean, get out of the house and bother everybody. It kind of was like a singles thing, wasn't it? It was because I think there's a community building aspect to like, Like the Eagle Rock Run Club, we got friends that do that. I think it is sort of like, hey, I'm a dad, but I'm getting out of the house for once. Well, I think it's also like, hey, you know, I'm single. I'm on a bike, but there's two wheels.

Hey, maybe two of us start rolling around together. One person per wheel. One person per wheel on this bike. Wow. That's a really good pickup line. In a bike club, it would work. That bike club, those people did piss me off. the number of them that were rolling their bike all the way in.

Like if they were all like, laying their bike up, setting their bike up out front and coming in, I'm like, fine, whatever. But like, look,

folks, I'm sorry that I'm anti-dog, but I am. And when 200 people to bring their dogs to the bar, it bothers me. This was like that, but with bikes where they were just like, I was like,

how do all of these people expect? They were confidently striding in rolling their bikes. Yeah. Like, do you guys think there's room for 200 places? Yeah. It's like, guys, there's 12 picnic tables here. You can't bring in.

200 bikes. They kept walking in. Oh, we will. They were like crammed in like and then they like lemmings. They were just like walking into the wall and then more of them coming and they smashed in and they were getting kind of like stuffed in there. Fucking bike ass

fucking. All right. Jim, let me stop you right there. Yeah, wait a minute. Two, Jesus. Before we start inventing new slurs. Also, going back to the dog thing, I love dogs because they're cute. They're fur babies in there. They're actually my, you know what?

Doggoes. That doesn't mean anything, Tim. You gotta love the dogs. They're beautiful dogs. Yeah, yeah, that's true. All right, is that it for Booznor? So there's a lady, we take, we're on her side. She was over-served.

We're on her side. She's good. So just basically drink all you want. Everybody have fun. Bartenders. Stop fucking with us. Don't underserve us. Don't underserve us.

We want Goldilocks service here. Okay, drink all you want. Wake up the next day to a $300,000 check a slipped under your door. I was going to say, I'm excited for,

we got some of the summer drinks. I forgot summer drink time is coming. We're going to have to pick the best summer drink eventually. But I was also going to say, Jeff, I am what? Leaning hard into Jacked by June.

Oh, you're back? I was out running like a madman this weekend. weekend and I'll tell you. Did you lift any weights on that run? No, but I've been doing a lot of a lot of isometric planks holding, you know, sitting in a chair or sitting like like a chair against the wall type of thing, whatever that's called. Is that, that's what they call those machines that you see at the park, right? Isometric workout machines? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's just like yourself. It's like you're, you use your body weight to like, you know, twist around. But I'm feeling good. The hips are

the hips are unlocked. That's good. I got to do that too. I'm creatine loaded, which is nice, because that takes time to build up the creatine. So any lifting I would do, I would be getting max results. I just can't find the time. But it's the lifting getting done.

No, that's the problem. Lift stuff up around your house. Hell, go over to Tim's out. Lift him up. I'm trying. Tim's not, I'm trying to help up with the Tiger room, but he's got me blocked out.

What? Jeff, get over here, bring your power drill. Just start putting holes in and we'll figure it out. We just need to get the holes going. Start laying down boards. Yeah. Folks, do we got some sloppy days of boys' tour dates coming up. The band is going to the southeast.

It's the Southern streak, folks. We're talking about Atlanta, May 21st, center stage vinyl. Knoxville, May 22nd, open quarter. Nashville, May 23rd, Jortsfest at the East Side Bowl. Oh, man, that's nice. And hey, folks, I hope you enjoyed our little taste test. We have a viral video on our hands that Tim Kalpak's seven drink taste test. My God.

That was crazy. Could you believe this? Folks, there's a TikTok trend where you throw drinks at people's face and they try to guess it. Jeff threw seven classic cocktails at its point. Holy Tim. I am horrified with the results. I should be discounted. I mean, half of them you nailed.

No, a lot of it didn't make it into your mouth. Some of them were like... Yeah, some of them. Like, you just didn't get enough in your mouth. I was drinking them off my mustache. And also just like, when it started, it was so disoriented. Once I got in the zone, I could like think about taste. But for a while, I'm like, I'm sitting outside.

I can't see it's cold. That was the other thing. It was kind of like drizzly and frigid. Yeah, that was kind of shitty. Nice. Where did you shoot that? Just in like, well, I don't want to docks myself in front of a building. We won't say who dwells within. But it is a building you're saying, eh?

It's a structure. Tim, I couldn't believe you didn't get the old fashion. The first one I was like, here's a low ball just to get them going. No, I thought you did a good job starting with that. That's the one that feels like an easy, iconic, like cocktail. I knew I guess what happened was I mistook whiskey for rum So I said Dacri but I knew Dacri wasn't right

But I think the problem was I got a little bit of that orange garnish Fonk and that made me get more citrus than I thought I had But I should not be a host of a cocktail show Fucking it up to this band. Were you Are you getting like the liquor in your eyes? Was it stinging? Yes

I got lime in my eye and a little tabasco. Oh, God. Well, that's all online, folks. Check that out of it. But you know what, Mike? Pain is temporary. Film is forever. Ooh, that's good.

Timeless integrity here on the pod. Is that it for booze news? Wrap it up. Well, now with that out of the way, we turn our attention to the drink of the day, the main event of the whole pod. Yes, yes, yes. This drink of this day is the Pisco punch you've had.

No. No. You've heard. No. We've done Pisco Sour. I have Pisco. Pisco. Pisco is a grape brandy from Peru.

Yes, yes. And we have done the delicious Pisco sour. But here we find a drink that predates that one. and was recently added to the International Bartenders Association cocktail list. Right, which we are not beholden to, but we charitably, magnanimously visit from time to time. We open our hearts two still. You know what? I'll share the history of it while we're sipping, but I'll give you the recipe.

Oh, yes. Should we do this? Yeah, yeah. We do this. Tim. Okay. Hit them with it. Straight from IBA world.

It is 60 milliliters. Pisco. 22.5 milliliters fresh pineapple juice. 15 milliliters simple syrup. 15 milliliters fresh lemon juice. 30 milliliters dry white wine. Three pieces of cloves. Gentle mash the simple syrup with the cloves. Add the remaining ingredients except the wine.

Shake vigorously and double strain into a large goblet. Add the wine on top. and gently stir. Wine on top and then stir. Goblet, I think I'm just going to use like a wine glass, right,

for goblet? Or do you guys have like pewter goblets? I don't know what kind of chalices. A cup glass. But yeah, I'll take a look at a goblet, I guess.

We, I remember growing up, my mom had some like pewter goblets, like glasses that we would have like, when people would come over and it would get so cold.

I put my milk in it. Ooh. frigid. That's weird. Your milk. That's weird, Mike. I drank milk as a boy and I still drink it as a man. You do.

You're the one guy I see who will, I see him carrying around a whole glass of that white stuff. I wish I could get it at restaurants. So if you ever ask for a milk at a restaurant, they look at you like, you're crazy. Like, we have whole milk. Fine. All right. Folks, let's take a little break.

And when we come back, we're going to have Piscoe punches in hand. Tim's going to tell us all about it. Folks. We'll be right back. We'll be back. With Piscoe punches in hands. You guys got a little clove chunk in there? Any cloves chunks?

Oh, yeah. Wait. No, because I double strained. I double strained too, but I get a little bit. I double strain too. Guys, we kind of buried the lead. No ice. It's a punch.

No ice. Yeah, that was, I reread the recipes so many times. So I chalked that up to IBA being inconsistent and bad. Because I looked up other recipes and they said to shake off. on ice, but I did, I did pulverize without ice, the cloves into the syrup. Without, yeah, I don't think the, I don't think the IBA messed up. I think it's an iceless drink. Oh, okay.

Yeah, when mine is cold and delicious and yours is warm and shitty. I'm going to come knocking at your door, dude. We'll see. He's right. Here we go. I used that, I used that cool down glass, though. Ooh. That.

Hmm. Interesting. Oh, Mike, with his head and his hands. I want to go get ice. I'm going to go get a big ice cube because this needs it. Tim, your feelings? I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it just yet.

I'm going to stay the course, but I think Mike's, I think that the dilution and the coldness would help a lot. But I'm taking this drink in a historic sense. It's transporting me back to its origins. Oh, what might those buy you? Well, what the hell are its origins? Well, I'm happy that you guys ask. Here's what's funny. You guys are probably thinking,

Hmm, Pisco is from Peru. It's probably, this drink probably has Peruvian roots. Yeah. I was saying that to Jeff, yeah, two days ago. I was saying it back to him. Yeah. I was like, I just said that. This drink is actually from San Francisco.

Whoa, whoa. The Pisco from Frisco? Hey, not so far from home after. all. Yeah, wait a minute. Everybody hashtag this Pisco from Friisco. Also, not

far from home. Unlike our young Anakin Skywalker, who we're talking about on the Patreon all this month, folks, we're talking about Star Wars this month.

Folks, it's Anakin Month. Over on, we still haven't decided what to call it prequel month, maybe, prequel month. May the Fourth. How about Revenge of the Month?

How about the Empire Strikes May? Strikes May. Folks, we're talking the prequels, the Star Wars prequels, going back to sort of the aughts in a way. How about this, Jeff, the Empire Slops May? Ooh, the Empire Slops May. Hey, but that's all paywall stuff. Let's go back to the Pisco from Freesco. She's trying to get people over the paywall.

But yes, right now we'll talk about the Frisco Pisco. Tim, hit us with it. I think Mike makes a good point. though anyone would think like, oh, Pisco in San Francisco, it's far from home, much like how Anakin has to travel far from tattooing. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Yes, yes, because he starts at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, these days when you're thinking about the San Francisco Bay area, you guys are, like, here, you guys talking to each other a lot, oh, we got to get there. It's because we want to be tech guys pitching our latest app, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, Jeff missed heard me. I said I wanted to go to a silicone valley, and he was like, I got you. I was like, oh, brother, this is why I don't ask the tech guy.

What? What do you mean? Titties, boy. Oh, well, silicon and silicone are the same thing. But he means cone shaped like Madonna, baby. Ah, Silicon. Would you please get to this fucking history? I am vamping as best as I can to.

Long before the tech boom in San Francisco, there was another boom in 18. 1849, the fucking Tom Stock Lowe, the fucking gold rush dudes is what I'm saying. Yeah, baby. In the second half of the 1800s, San Francisco was a boomtown. There's a lot of money and all these guys panning for gold, getting rich going to San Francisco. A lot of money, a lot of gold. Well, the gold is what I'm referring to. The gold is the money.

You're paying for money, boys. Oh, okay. In this situation, the gold is the money. Continue, Tim. I feel like when we talked about the history of the martini, it came up because, like, there's a theory that it spun off of the Martinez, Martinez. Yeah, yeah. That's from up there.

But anyway, there was, there's like a very, there's a fancy class of recently rich people in San Francisco in the second half of the 1800s. So we do get a bunch of, like, fancy bars. We've been to some. we have um because we're very successful band but you took us to a very nice old place tim remind me the name of that place the restaurant the tadditch grill oh yes that that feels like of this era am i right yeah you're right we kind of sat in this little side room where they're like it was like a train guard they closed the door for us and whereas we get our dover soul that place is great too because they really dress the part like there's people walking around

Like they do, they have like gloves and aprons. They look like, like turn of the century scientists or something. I love it. Ooh, can I tell you this? A tattach grill. The other day I went to, uh, our old friend, Brad Evans was in town. He and I met up to the MoMA. We walked around the MoMA.

We looked at some art. Then went over to, uh, the Waldorf. The Waldorf opened up, reopened, I guess. Stattler and Waldorf? Or not a new bar. Well, they were, there was two guys there like, uh, picking on me like, like those guys, but no, not them. But we walk in and

at first I was like, okay, this is a big fancy place, this is going to be like, you two crumbums, get out of here. But it's like this beautiful like lounge room and bar, like really cool, lights, music. And at a certain point, I looked around and I said, every one of these

waiters is dressed so well, although everyone's dressed really well. I went up to the hostess who was also she had a really cool dress and I was like, can I just say your whole staff here dressed fantastically. Your whole staff here can get it. They got it. They look good.

They can get it in. Do you always try to make a point to like comment on the appearance of people while they're at work? Only when they are beautiful or if they need to smile. Yeah, or if their hair is blocking their pretty face. Yes, if that type of thing. No, it just, I was like, I think I was having such a, I was in such a good mood because it like nobody gave me any shit coming in. I was dressed like a, you know, whatever.

But nobody was like, excuse me, sir, where are you supposed to be? It was like, yes, come in, come in. Oh, so they didn't comment on your appearance, but you decided to walk around going, hey, baby, little rouge wouldn't kill you. That's that type of talk? Do you guys know the Transamerica pyramid in San Francisco? If you picture the San Francisco skyline, there's a real pokey sharp building. Does it look like a bottle of fucking guys?

Galliano? Galliano? Yes, it's like a pissless version of Galliano. Not interested. You know the building, but on the very spot where that building now stands was a fancy bar called the Bank Exchange Saloon. Fancy place for Gold Rush guys to come to once they got rich. I'm talking chandeliers. I'm looking this place up.

What's the name again, Tim? The Bank Exchange Saloon, San Francisco, California. Now, there was a bartender there named Duncan, N. nickel and he invented this drink. They're importing Pisco. It's coming up the Pacific, coming up from Peru and then San Francisco, they say, hey, we're kind of cultured and worldly.

They're also, they're using pineapple, which is like a status symbol. In the Gilded Age, like Vanderbock would have, like, pineapples, like, carved into their staircases and stuff. Yes. That's so funny to me. It's just one of those, like,

there's a million of those things. like, they used to do things different in the old days. But that one is just, the carving it out into the banisters and stuff we've seen before. We just, yeah, that's good. That's so great. I think we do that these days with grapes. Trying to think of what fruit these days we would be held in high regard. Well, grapes are a status symbol from like, you know, the Greeks, Tim.

you must know. Yeah, but the freaks don't tolerate, the Greeks don't tolerate freaks. Grape freaks? Okay. So, this guy, Duncan Nickel, he's using all these fancy ingredients, imported fancy ingredients,

because it's this classy San Francisco. He makes this drink, by today's, with today's currency, you'd be like 30 bucks, intentionally a very expensive drink. Whoa. And it tasted great.

It packed a punch. It's, speaking of punch, I think we, We've done other punches on this show before, but a punch is like, and I think that's why this is... Yeah, right hook, upper cut. Stop! I think that that's why this is iceless. It's like, I think the punch is being where that, you know, like, that rhyme that's like one of sour, two of sweet.

Oh, yeah. It was like a riddle to unlock your drink. The net is telling me a punch is a versatile, large batch beverage traditionally defined by five core components. Spirit, sugar, citrus, water, and spice. Spice. Spice. Spice. Spice is a new.

That's, I mean, we've had drinks with spice in it, but I've never really heard of, like, yes, crush down a spice. Yeah, like the clove, yeah. Well, so I guess punch comes from, it's the Hindi word for five is punch. So punch. There you go. No way. That's cool.

Now, this particular fancy punch being. served in the late 1800s at the Bank Exchange saloon. It tastes really good, but it really fucks you up. So all these writers really love it. And famously, Rudyard Kipling wrote in his epic novel from C to C. He said the Pisco punch compounded, the Pisco punch is compounded of the shavings of cherubs wings, the glory of a tropical dawn, the red clouds of sunset, and the fragments of lost epics by dead masters.

another writer says it tastes like lemonade but comes back with the kick of a roped steer i like that second guy the first first one is overwritten okay how about the third guy tastes like lemonade which i like did everyone know that this is his first book third guy says it makes a gnat fight like an elephant um oh so they're all talking about how this tastes good but then really fucks you up and here's why guys originally there was a secret ingredient in this drink. Guess what it was? Cocaine.

Absinth? Cocaine. Cocaine. Coca leaves. So we're doing a version that is cocaine-less. It didn't really add much. There's the one time we've done a cocaine-less drink of this. Which he says, folks, we've been zooted. It reminds in every other episode.

290 episodes. That's why we seem so sleepy. The only time we do cocaine is on this podcast. we should do an episode of the blowout where we snort fat rails oh Tim I know about that man we'll talk about it off pod

yeah at studio 54 so this drinks the hot shit and then prohibition comes along shuts the place down that's that the recipe was lost how long did prohibition last was that was that like oh Jeff is done not long Was Prohibition just a year? The 20s.

Was it even like less? It was like a big chunk of the 20s. It was a big chunk? Yep. How long was Prohibition? Oh, shit. This is saying 13 years. From January 20 to December 1933.

Yikes. I think I'm getting the, you know, the Simpsons 19th Amendment or whatever, 18th Amendment, were they illegal? Make beer illegal. I think I'm thinking of like, Yeah, that was really short. Oh, the real prohibition must have been really short, too. Yeah, that episode of The Simpsons was half an hour. Yeah, it was half an hour. It barely took any time.

You don't really see the character's age. Anyway, I'll tell you what, this, this drink is growing on me. The first sip, I was like, no, thanks. It had a little bit of a champagne feeling to me. You know, it's like a white wine with us with the pineapple. It was really feeling champagne. But now I am definitely going to do ice in the next one, but this is nice. This has got good alchemy. Yeah, and it's not too sweet. I was expecting, you know, to add anything with simple syrup to a pineapple juice drink is a little silly because pineapple juice is just so sweet and like kind of overpowering.

I like the clove thing too. Clove and pineapple reminds me of a holiday ham. Yeah. Jeff, this isn't ham time, okay? Yeah. Every once in a while my mom would do a ham and like, or like for holiday. And there'd be like cloves in it and you'd get your piece like cut. And you're like, what the fuck is?

Get this out of it. You're sitting down. You're washing up for dinner and you hear that base drop and mom goes, ham time. Ham salad for me. From the tub. Well, do we make a second around? because I need another. Yeah.

Yeah, let's do it. I like it. And I am going to, I'm going to put ice this time. Maybe, maybe I'm not going to shake with ice, but I'm going to pour it into a glass with ice because I want my drink to be called heat. How did you guys feel about, oh, I'm going to shake with ice? That's because of me my thing. Well, how do you guys feel about this doing the history after the making the drink? Mostly good.

It takes a lot of discipline. takes a lot of discipline to let the guy do the history. Well, to let the guy. My issue with this, I'm drinking a drink that I don't know what it is or why it is or where it came from. But you learn while you sip. But what I'm sipping, that's what I'm going to be riffing. Yeah, that's true. Hold on.

Stop everything, though. I'm watching the IBA instructional video how to make this and they shake it on ice. Jeff, you're right. They fucked up their own thing. This is why we don't fucking, this is why we're up a hole into that. This is why we fucking. This is why they've been conquered and discarded. Let's take another extended leave from the fucking IBA.

I thought Tim, you were like, the IBA, it's updating. It's updating. It's updating in real time. No, it's a fucking misprint. Fuck them. This is why they fuck themselves, man. They put so much attention now into the YouTube videos and the fact that you can click on the site. It takes you to a place you want to go to.

Now it's got the fucking directions wrong. Way to go. not. I'm going to make another one. What do you, what do you think? I'm going to do the same, same, uh, everything except just ice. Yeah, just make it again, make it good. Yeah, make it again, make it good. All right. Folks, we'll be right back with more of the sloppy boys. After this. Round two, piece go punch. Um, I didn't pulverize. I let the ice do the pulverizing, you know? Yeah. It said, it said not to pull, it said just to like to, uh, kind of gently do it. So, but who knows with this fucking website. I also didn't.

I didn't double strain, so I'm chunk-dified with all these clothes. Jeff. With my chunk, with my clothes, I tried to at least just break each one in half, like for pulverization. You know what I mean? I like it way more. I threw my fucking. Oh. Not only did I shake this on ice, but I dumped the wine right in, shook it all up.

Yeah, why not? Yeah. These old ways are dying. In with the new. I think the IBA is just trying to keep up with. whatever AI and slop is happening, that they're just they can't, they can't

quality check as well and yeah, you get shitty. It sucks. I bet you, I wonder if just AI is doing their whole fucking thing. I bet it is. Yeah, maybe sad. Sad. Honestly sad. A. I. Well, good. Well, what do you think? Do you have a grand adjudication?

For me? Yeah, your final thoughts. That's an order again. Wow. You were so dismissive. From the first sip, I said no. And then after hearing Tim talk, I said, you know, maybe I will stick with this. And not to mention Jeff, yeah.

No, I know. Yeah, yeah. I know, I know. But I was hearing 33% more of Tim. This is good. This is exciting. This is exciting because I thought this was going to be a, I kind of forgot what Pisco tasted like.

And I thought maybe it was going to be koshasa-y, which I don't really like. Yeah, what does it? taste like. Should I just do a nude sip to the dome? It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a halfier wine. Is that what a like a? Yeah, it's it's it's, it's, it's clear. Yeah, that is grappa. As if you can do if I could use an analogy, groppa is to me as weed as wine is to beer to me. You know what I mean? It feels like kind of like from a different time where it wasn't as like refined yet. I went to. to a mead

making a meatery a meatery in NorCal that's what they call who's your meat manga it's all about bees because it's like

it's like made from honey I guess so there was like we were in like a buzzy buzz buzz garden babe and what is I haven't had I've had meat before

but it's like it's made from honey no I know but what's the is the taste like like is it sweet honey my boy honey

yeah I mean it's like very frae it's like a bubbly wine. Like, I almost compare it to like a, like a, a fizzy natural wine

that's got some funk to it. Ooh. Oh, piece go funky. This piece goes, what does it taste like, like brandy? Yeah.

It just, it's a shot to the doom. It's just tastes like alcohol. Like, like on the, from the periodic table. Does it have any type of, um,

uh, uh, I always forget the name it. The spirit from Asia, that's like really intense. Baizu. But what the fuck was the name of it? It was three words.

It was Wuliang Yeh. Wuliang Yeh, I can't fucking. Yeah, that's just. That's the brand. But did it have any type of that too? Where it's like much, much smoother, obviously. But like, yeah, but it does, it does taste just sort of like ethanol or like, like, pure booze.

Yeah, just to wrap up my little thought. Yes, this is an organ for me. I thought this was going to be a. kind of like champagney, whiny, mimosa-e thing. It leans that way, but it does just enough to make Mike Hanford say,

Kvah, Keep, set another one up for me. That's a huge victory for Peace Go Punch, because Jeff, I don't think you even can, are you thinking about how much Mike hates champagne, aka sparkling white wine, AKA, this is a cocktail with a whole ounce of white wine and he was into it. I like, I do like white wine. Of the wines, I like white.

Ah, but champagne. Weird. Champagne. I'm a red boy. Yeah, I know we know you historically, I mean, we've listened to every episode, so we know you don't like a champagne cocktail. But what, what wines did you guys use for me? I use a cheap ass, well, not cheap ass, a small bottle. of Josh Chardonnay.

I tried to go. You don't think that Josh is cheap? No, I do. He's like he was cheap because it was so small, you see? Well, I don't want to,

I don't want to talk down anybody who can only go for the Josh. I think people buying Josh know, what they're buying. I also, I did bottom,

I got Sutter home bottom shelf. I didn't want to waste good wine on. Yeah, I got, I got some, something, Brandon never heard of, but I got a chardon,

no, Pinot, Pinot No, Nope, pino grigio. Listen to this about the Pisco, other than just the cocaine aspect. Pisco is very strong, and they were talking about, ooh, it's a strong drink. Peruvian Pisco is strong primarily because it is distilled to proof and cannot be diluted with water after distillation.

It is produced by a single distillation of fermented grape juice, preserving the intense alcohol strength and aroma. Regulations prohibit aging in wood, resulting in a pure, high. I proof spirit. Oh. Oh, yeah. I love all this stuff like when we talk about distilling and brewing and stuff. Like we don't get too much into it, but every once in a while we'll talk.

Oh, yeah, yes, distilling. I have no fucking idea whatever it means. I don't know how brewing works. But every so often it comes up on this podcast, yes, distilling, good, good without oak. Yes, that's important. Good, good. Yeah, right. And like that's when some listeners are just like throwing their phone

across the room. These guys don't know anything about the distillation process. The what? Tim, when you were saying like, Pisco can't be diluted and all this other stuff, like, in my mind,

I'm just thinking like, wow, something about it, it's chemical structure. It's unable to be, you can add as much water as you want. And it won't dilute. Like,

no, no, it's just like, no, you have to understand how serious the tradition is. The ramifications. If you try to,

to dilute this. Police pull up to your door. It's the Peruvian law. Get out. Jeff, what about you? How do you feel about this drink? My true feelings? Well, I liked it when I first sipped it because I had it cold. But I have to say,

I've had so many drinks that are better use of pineapple. This is going to have to be appointment only. this is going to have to be, hey, come on, come on over, we're doing Pisco Punch night. Yeah, Pisco Punch. How often you hear that, folks? Not very often.

It's a pretty rare appointment. Pretty rare. So this ain't going to be half a very... Is it going to be Piscoe summer? I don't think so. I don't think so. I hope not. You know, I agree.

I'm in order again because I like the taste of this. I agree it's not going to be Pisco summer, but I could imagine a little micro trend of like, If Sabrina Carpenter writes a song, it's like, it's like, peace go, peace go. You know. Peace, peace, peace. That's too similar to please, please, please. She's not going to use that melody.

But she's got to start somewhere. No, I like mine better. Peace go, peace go. Instead of espresso? She just shimmies from side of his eye. Peace go, peace go. Okay, what else? Next.

Here's song called Manchild. That song's too short. You got to keep going. You need it to be two minutes at least. Oh, that's it. That's how, that's the whole album's short. Pisco, piece go, piece go. Peace go.

Oh, they don't like it. Jack. Little help. This is on the track. Yeah, it's all helping out, Sabrina. Oh. What a dork. Do it, man.

Help her. It's an order again for me because I like to taste. I agree with Jeff. It's not going to be a Pisco summer, but I could imagine seeing a little ripple of, I love Peruvian food. You ever have like a Saltado, Lomo Salato? It's like a stir fry with French fries in it, basically, almost pretty much.

There's like so few Peruvian restaurants in L.A. I could imagine we're sitting ducks for there to be a great, like, Peruvian place that then does the Piscoe Sour. the Pisco punch, but I think it'll always be a niche drink. But I like it. Niche. Pisco, Pisco. To me.

That's pretty good. Pisco Pisco, Pisco. Like, Little Caesars. Like Pizza. Pisco pizza. So the second one is pizza, but the first one is Pisco. I was hoping that wouldn't get noticed. Damn.

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Padmay month. Padmay pod over on the sloppy boys blowout. That's where we're going back to basically 1999-2000. We're talking about those Star Wars prequels that George was so excited about. Yeah, we're getting the fucking Jinkos back out and putting the, uh, chain necklaces on. And

The hemp necklace. Did you guys ever do that? Hemp necklace? Oh, yeah. I wore a hemp necklace to the calendar date a year, a full year. It was disgusting. Oh, sure. Because you just tie it on and you let it rip.

You shower with that thing. Yeah, it was nasty. I had like a thick ropey one, and it would just be, like, still a little damp. I would get out of the shower and put my clothes on, and I could feel like a little bit of damp, like on the t-shirt and get the collar a little damp. It just smells like a little dog or something. Did you ever do the puka show? No, my dad did.

Your dad did? Yeah, which is very much like now you wouldn't think of him as a pukeshell man, but my mom, to this day, makes fun of them for wearing a pukeshell necklace back and I don't know. When would have had been? She liked it. She liked the late 60s. I can see it being like a rural New England-y, uh, groovy out.

Oh, for sure. Yeah. You are, get yourself a new pika-shell necklace. I kept thinking of Pikachu Oh, can I show you guys So as we go out here Can I show you guys something I found

On the street today? Sure I was taking a jog through a nice neighborhood And I found this as trash on the street I'm taking my headphones out So I won't be a later on Well it's sort of last call for that sort of thing Now that Mom Donnie wants to do

Lockable ratproof trash cans Tim, you hear about this? Oh, ratproof I like that What the? What a good call? A Yamaha, nylon string guitar. Mr. Flamenco. Wait, what...

I was walking by, just in general, people just have... What's the catch? The catch is I had to carry it home myself. In a case that they provided. Are you for real? No, this was just on the street. No, that's what I'm saying. It was in a nice neighborhood, and a lot of time when people move, especially towards the end of the month in New York, it's just like,

it's like, straight-stranded with this shit. Most of the time, it's like, you'll look at something, be like, oh, a shelf. I could use a shelf. Oh, wait, two of the shelves are broken. Okay. But this one, I looked at it. I saw this case. I was like, okay, a guitar.

Let me see what this is. And I opened up. So what is it? You got the guitar in a case. I mean, the case, yeah. But it's like, I was like, this is actually like a real guitar. I'm going to take this home. That's going to be big for album five.

Yeah, maybe we do a... Bye, folks. Bye. Peace. Go.