The Sloppy Boys - 293. Roy Rogers with Kenny Gray

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

The guys welcome musical-comedian-slash-comedic-musician Kenny Gray for an NA mocktail invented FOR BOYS in the 1940s.Catch Kenny Gray live on tour with Dutts this summer!ROY ROGERS RECIPE: 6oz/180ml COCA COLA1oz/30ml GRENADINEFill a tall glass with ice. Add Coca Cola and grenadine syrup. Stir gently and garnish with maraschino cherry.Recipe via The Spruce EatsWANT MORE SLOP? Check out:PatreonSHOP the webstore at:The Sloppy Boys WebsiteLISTEN to The Sloppy Boys hit songs on:Apple MusicSpotifyYoutubeTOUR DATES, SOCIALS and more at:LinktreeT H E   S L O P P Y   B O Y S   L L CExpand Ascend Conquer Retain Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

folks. It's captivating pop star Dutz. With a sexy summer announcement. I'm hitting the road this June and July, opening for superstar musical comedian slash comedic musician Kenny Gray. Performing a string of special live shows across America. Come bear witness to the full psychosexual autobiographical journey of homemade pop sensation Dutz. June 24th in New York City at Bowery Palace.

June 25th in Boston. at the Middle East, June 27th in Philly at Kung Fu Necti, July 9th in L.A. at Zebulon, July 10th in Seattle at Barbosa, and July 11th in Chicago at Subterranean. Feel the thrilling highs at lusty lows of the nightlife. You've never seen Dutts like this. Dutts. Don't miss the performance of a lifetime. Kenny Gray with special guests, Duts.

Tickets on sale now. Hey, folks. Welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the. drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. Ooh, hi. And Tim Kelpacchis. What he is up. Oh, and joining us today, the very funny comedian

and musician who I just so happen to be joining on the road this summer Kenny Gray is here. Thank you. Oh, my good. Sound effects. Thank you for having me, guys. Happy to be here. So you guys are going to be a couple of road

dogs, huh? Oh, yeah. I think so. I don't want. You haven't decided yet? We're like, maybe. I'm more of a road cat guy. Isn't that cool to be to say like, yeah, I got a summer tour. I'm sorry, babe, I can't be around.

I'll be in the summer tour. The summer tour, that's so cool. I do think just saying that is a lot of what's working for me. And I don't need to tell the reality of the ticket sales or the travel. Don't worry about that stuff. Don't. That's not ever part of it. It's only just telling somebody, hey,

I got to be out the road all sober long. I can't be here, man. I got to go. I got summer tour, man. And it's about being a rambling man. And also, Kenny, don't worry about if you're having trouble with ticket sales, have you heard the term blue dot fever? Everyone says, blue dot fever.

This is the summer. No one can sell tickets. You know, like you go to Ticketmaster and there's the blue dots because all the seats are open. People are saying 20, 2026, don't worry about it. Nobody can sell tickets. It's blue dot fever. I thought that was like saying like a Democratic city in a Republican state.

Well, that's probably happening to that that is well. That could be happening. And Kenny, we want you to go out there and sort of report back on what you find out about the state of the Democratic Party when you're out on the road. Are we going to be correspondence? Yeah, Jeff, you'll be, you'll be his correspondent. You'll go out on the B. Yeah.

I also think my take on blue dot fever is, uh, like self-serving. I think it's more about like, because, you know, Live Nation Ticketmaster have all these fees, people aren't going to go to, you know, it's more about that than,

uh, comedy bands having trouble filling the tiny little rock clubs. But I like to think that that's the problem. Well, Kenny used to have jelly roll on and things weren't going so hot. And then he swapped out for duds. It's true.

Artistic disagreement. Well, now hold on. If, if, if, if, if, got an audience. Maybe an audience member doesn't know, Kenny, what you're about. Tell us, tell them

what we can expect out of seeing you live. Sure. Yeah. So, um, I make, I made a bunch of music on social media about like a year and a half ago that was sort of like kind of kind of like weird alish. Like I was doing kind of like pastiches of a bunch of genres, which was really just me like, listening to artists I love and then be like, I wonder if I could write a song that kind of sounds like them. And then I just did that a bunch of times. Sounds familiar boys. Yeah. You're in good company, Kenny, but Kenny, you do like talking heads and Devo and like cool style style pesting. I did it, I did weird owl, but cool. That's what I did. Yeah, I, the first thing I saw of yours was the talking head thing on Instagram. And I was like, oh, this is cool that it's like, yeah,

it's, it's like weird owl, but just kind of weird owling the genre, not the actual song. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, I think like I like to write, that's kind of how I used to write songs in general was like be like oh i'll write something like acdc and then but then i've kind of leaned into it being like well what if i just fully didn't hide it yeah yeah um but yeah i'm playing those songs live um doing some comedy bits in between kind of blending like my like sketch character and i regret to say this word clown stuff in between you're allowed don't regret that i'm a young man in i'm involved in clown you got to dabble you got to say every time you say say a Parisian clown so people know that it's the fancy kind.

Yeah, sorry, Parisian clown. Unless you're doing a Bozo the clown style, which was I think Bozo the clown is the guy that said on TV to kids like, hey kids, go in your parents' wallet and take out the green pieces of paper and mail them into to Bozo the clown.

Really? Yeah. That's a good type of clown. That's a good money-making scheme. Did you go to Canopy Lake Park? Jeff? Yes, I did. Bozo was there. See, Kenny is a New Hampshire boy, folks. Yeah. Oh. Now, that I did not know. So wait. Now, when you say Bozo was there like, there's a million bozos, right? Yeah, he was like franchised out, right? Oh, man. Yeah, like Santa. I, like Alvira or Gallagher, Latter-Day Gallagher. Or Andrew W.K.

Yes, or Andrew W.K. Is he, is he still around? Did I just hear that he's like still doing stuff, Andrew WK or did I dream that? I want to see if he's touring. He's back. Yes, he's back. Back again. Does he have a summer tour? There was a rumor back at his peak that it was like before everyone was watching everything so closely on social media, there was like an Andrew WK show in two different cities on the same night and people like, what the fuck? They just back then they figured no, no Clevelander is going to talk to somebody in San Francisco and figure it out. Not going to happen. Is he really like, are there multiple him?

I didn't know that. This was a rumor in 2005 that I never really looked into, but I remember people being up in arms about it. Ticketmaster has no upcoming concerts for any of the UK. Well, he's probably trying to skirt that blue dot fever. It's going around. It's going around. Did you guys know each other in New Hampshire, or did you meet at UCB?

No, it was sort of like, you know, like near misses. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jeff and I just met friends of. friends, right? Yeah, through our buddies like Steph and Mike out here, weirdly. But those are those, I know them and they're New Hampshire people that you also met them

out here, Jeff, right? So this is a whole L.A. New Hampshire. Yeah, yeah. Come to think of it. Yeah, that's kind of great. What part of New Hampshire are you from? You're going to be a lot of people out there, Jeff, you've been out there for those 30 years. Not 30, that's too long. I'm from Maramac, which is in between

Manchester and Nashua. Oh yeah. So you're definitely. going to Canterby Lake Park. And you're probably going at a Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom as well. Oh my God. My parents, they saw... It's very true. Very true. That's the place we saw so many bands. I saw

Mighty Mighty Boss Tones there. That was a treat for me back in the Skada days. Was this like a big outdoor-type venue or like an indoor club? On the boardwalk but indoor. Yeah. Who'd you see there, Kenny? That's cool. I saw a weird owl there once.

God, who else? It was such a hot spot for places like bands, like White Snake coming back through like or like old 80s bands. I can't remember what I saw there, but bands like that. Like I don't know, but like it was possible I saw Velvet Revolver there or something, you know? Like I don't know. I, you just said Weird Al. I just saw Weird Al on Howard Stern, a clip of him on Howard Stern recently, singing Natural Woman.

the Aretha Franklin song, but not like doing a parody version of it. It was like him in his band. And it was his voice. He wasn't trying to do like a, like do somebody else's voice. He was like, you make me. He could have, he got an unflatulent woman. I know. That's when I kept screaming.

You're screaming out of the radio? I took my phone. I was like, call Howard Stern now. I remember an early weird owl interview I saw. And it sort of, it sort of pissed me off as a kid. did. These like daytime news people were like, now weird Al Yankovic. And they were so tickled by the fact that weird Al is there. And they're like, we listen to your new album. You're a good musician. You could be doing real music. And, uh, and you know, he was very gracious in being like, well, you know, I consider what I do to be real music. Even though it's not, you know, like Celine Dion or whatever. Yeah. These are the two root. He could have done a Billy Bob Thornton and gotten all pissed. But instead he's like, I actually. I'm proud of myself. My comments are full of that.

That is like maybe one of the number one comments I get on social media, which is like, what are you doing with this talent? Why are you doing it? Why are you doing this? And it drives me, it's maybe it's the one comment I always respond to, which is,

I like, I like what I'm doing. I take this seriously. Yeah, I know. I think some people don't realize, like, just because it's silly doesn't mean you're like, there's a lot of work still to me.

done. Silly work, but silly. One of the only jobs where you have to tell people, I actually enjoy doing this. No, it is funny too that, like, I think it's weird, especially now, putting up people that have this big distinction between

the comedy music and music music is like, I mean, we talk about it all the time that like if you're, I don't know, like, bands like the chats or 100 gecks or whatever, like there's so many like, not just like bands with a

of humor, but like laugh out loud funny bands that also rock. You know, I mean, if someone heard, like your song, I don't smoke, like, if someone, you could do that. Like, you know, you don't have to call yourself a comedian to have a song like that. Like, that's just like a funny song that also rocks. Like there's a, you know that song, LCD sounds as some song, Daph Punk is playing at my house. Oh, yeah.

That feels like with a different lens, like, that's a comedy song. Like that could be on a different album. That's like a funny song. But it's like a cool hip song when it's technoy and not techno. I don't know what the fuck it is. Come on you, dudes. You know it.

Indy dance, perhaps. Or, uh, discos. Yes. Thank you. Uh, Kenny, can we play?

I mean, you, you, you own the rights to your masters. Yes. I did. Fun. I almost didn't.

But I almost, are you, I almost signed away the rights to that song very stupidly. But I own it. No shit. I was going to say, can we play it at the end of the episode? because that's like...

Please do it. Please go for it. That's the banger of all bangers, wouldn't you say? Thank you. Are you on a record label? No. A DJ, he's a nice guy, but a DJ reached out to me from like the LCD era and was like, hey man, I'd like to put it on my record label.

He's a nice guy, but over the course, it never happened and I never signed it. I signed it. He never signed it back. And then a friend of mine read the contract and was like, why the fuck did you sign this? You just gave the rights the whole thing. And then I just was like, cancel, I cancel. I disagree. I cancel cancel. And he was like, oh, well, no, no, no, you want to cancel.

I want to put it out. I was like, no, no, no, no. So I own the rights to do it. Oh, shit. I didn't know you could just say cancel, cancel. If you take a video of you tearing up the paper and send it to the person that it's okay. Yeah. Musically, though, are you, yeah, like, that's very, you do a lot of LCD sound.

I mean, you do a lot of, like, very well-observed indie stuff in general. I feel, have you. you've been a, have you been on the indie ride the whole time or were you in, because you still, you do like newer indie stuff too. Did you like go back and get into LCD sound system or were you, have you been like into that shit the whole time? No, I got into LCD sound system. I think in like my senior year of college, which was like 2013. So like when they had broken up, I think the first thing I saw was that documentary about them breaking up and I was so bummed because I was like, oh man, this band rules and they're gone. Um, but then they got back together. This is good.

We should do a doc about us breaking up, guys. That's the key. That's how you get out there. Do one final concert at Madison Square Garden. Just effortlessly sells up. One final, just one would be fine for us. I mean, there's a thing that happens in L.A. where restaurants, time-honored restaurants, announced that they're closing.

And then there's like a line around the block because people want to go one last time. And then they just stay in business for 10 more years. and they're just like, we should just have a farewell tour. I mean, George Clinton does it. We, yeah. Well, George Clinton does it. Well, Jeff, if he jumped off a building, would you?

Off a building. I've lost what I was going to say. It's so fucking hot over here. You know what I was not writing the, I wasn't so into LCD sound system while they're happy. I respected them, but I wasn't really into it. And then it was kind of after the fact, when I read Meet Me in the Bathroom, they talked so much about like how James Murphy was just like the cool guy in uncool.

Like before New York got cool again, he was just the one guy there just like DJing around town and like everything. It was like rap rock era New York. And he was like the only cool guy there. And then everyone was like, we should be cool like him. Be cool like me. He was like, I think around 40 when they really blew up. Like, he was much older than I expected. Yeah, yeah.

Awesome. Perfect. The more I hear about this band, the more I like him. And I'm going to be around 50 when we finally got on. We'll show him. Yeah, in 20 years, too. But I haven't always been into indie music. I was very deep into like, I think my like seminal stuff is like the was like Wolf Mother and the Hives.

and that like rock revival stuff was Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Brian Jones Town Massacre. I didn't, I still, there's something about that there's, there was one guy in high school who got all the girls wearing a strokes t-shirt

and I still from, I kid from that day forward, I still have trouble. I just picture this kid in my, he played Jesus and God spell and he liked the strokes. Did he have the long hair and he didn't have to wear a wig?

I think so. maybe. He had shiny hair. Okay, he's cool. I like this guy. Can't get his phone number? Yeah, we might want to have him on. Wait, wait, if you say that your original, like, Wolfmother is, like, they're very referencing 70s rock. Were you into the riffy, screaming 70s rock?

Okay, okay. Because that would be funny if you just like that. Like, it would be like if you like Greta van Fleet first, and then you're like, you got to listen to Lenssept. Yeah, no. My parents, my dad is a guitar player, not professionally, but he was huge into Led Zeppelin. And like my mom really like deaf leopard. So like all like I unironically loved 80s hair metal like my whole childhood.

I miss that stuff by a mile. It's such a blind spot for me. Although, I mean, we should announce now that a prequel month is ending, Mike, you've got a very good blowout on our hands coming up. Yes, folks. You know, if you listen to this week's blowout, we just talked about the last episode in Star Wars prequel month. It was the Obi-Wan. Canobe, yes.

Canobi! That was fun. We would talk about that. But next week, folks, we will be talking about the band Rush. Getting into a rush. And basically what we're doing is just kind of listening to them and thinking about them. And we're getting about them. We're just kind of thinking about them, man.

Well, they have such an unwieldy catalog. unwieldy and I have a lot to after listening to some of the albums there's a lot to say about these guys. They got a wild thing but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about that next week on the blowout folks. That's on the sloppy boys dot com. How do you sign up for that? That's

Patreon.com slash the sloppy boys. We've been plugging it for like four years. You want to sign up? I know, I know, but it doesn't usually come out of my mouth so it's a foreign. You should be subscribed. Patreon.com slash the sloppy boys. Now getting back to the two artists I'm looking to

here. Kenny Gray and Dutz. You guys going on this tour. Now, I feel like I can give you some heads up, Kenny, of what it's like to tour with Jeff. He's going to want to start each day with the sausage, cheddar,

egg sandwich from Starbucks. It's probably the food item I've seen him eat the most. So don't be shocked if he's popping into Starbucks. And also, if you're feeling like a nice guy, have it ready for him. He loves Little treats.

He loves little treats. You don't even get it from Starbucks. You can make it yourself. Get it from the grocery store. Just show you're thinking about it. A farmer's market and get some some locally sourced eggs would be nice.

Okay. Okay. That's really the only fact about Jeff. That's it? Yeah, that's pretty much it. He likes to get to the airport early. That's the other thing. Oh, I do too.

It's a New Hampshire thing. How many cities are you guys hitting together. You want us to hit him with the schedule, Mike? Yes. Oh, that might be nice. Wait, Kenny, you know the, you know the venues too. You want to tell him? Yeah, I'll have to close my eyes and do it from memory. No, I actually think I could. June 24th, New York, Bowery Palace with Dutz. Dutz. June 25th, Boston Mass, Middle East upstairs, with Dutz. June 27th. Oh, and in the New York show, Mike, as I understand it, you're going to do some stand-up comedy?

Hell yeah. Sure. if you'd like me to. Yes, I've heard about this. Okay, sorry. I got real nervous for one second. June 27th, Philadelphia at, I love the name of this venue, Kung Fu necktie. Is it cool? Yes, we've played. We've played there. We've played. I don't remember it, but we've played. It looks awesome. There's some lights. Is there lights on the top of the dome or something? I don't know. There's lights. It's kind of a very charming bar. It's great, good vibe. Yes, I like that place left. Hell yeah. Then in July, we're coming to the West Coast. July 9th, Los Angeles, California, Zebulon.

That's the spot. July 10th, Seattle at Barbosa. Barboza? Barboza. Okay, nice. And July 12th, Chicago, it's subterranean downstairs. That's the end of it. Oh, hell yeah. Nice.

So we play there, too. Subterranean is a fun spot. This is kind of confusing, though, because in Boston it was Middle East upstairs, and now you're telling me, Chicago. up turning down. I'm kind of like, what the fuck is going on? It really is at this point, like, how many sets of stairs are we going to have to climb on this

tour? First, blue dot fever now stair syndrome. Plus the midterms are coming up. Well, to be getting to some booze news. Oh my gosh, yes. Bibibibib, bib, bib, bib, booze news, hit it. Has anyone ever done Marley Cyrus since like Bob Marley

doing Milixir's son? No one ever has, no. Because it's not good or, yeah. Somebody should try it. I think we're on a big track that no one's done it and I think it reflects great on us as a civilization. Just try it. Or it could be the other way.

A Miley Cyrus doing Bob Marley's song. Um, hmm? She has a party in the USA, right? Right. Tom Miley Cyrus's father. You're talking about Southern.

the drink you don't own piss out. It's just too silly, I think. It sucked. It sucked. Party in the Booze S.A. was sent to us by Rick Tapper. And if you have a Booze news team email into the Sloppy Boys podcast at gmail.com.

Damn, the tap is back. Nice tapper. That's a funny thing to do to me to plot me saying party in the USA and like singing a different key over the real ones. I can sound like a idiot. Party in the USA.

Right. So uninterested. Okay, here's the booze news. Kenny, recently on this podcast, we invented a hit drink that's going to be the drink of the summer. It's called The Piss and Shit. Have you come across it out in your world? Not at a bar, no. Oh, that still counts for us.

That still counts as part of our marketing plan. Oh, we asked this question before we've even invented this drink. Hey, we should make little, we should sell little like toilet shot classes or something like that. It should be, yeah. Or how about like shot glasses that look like toilet paper rolls? Yep. Well, we'll get to work on that. Anyway, in the.

That's the episode, folks. So we're hoping this drink catches on and becomes like the biggest thing ever. But we did, we've had some people going out to bars. and ordering it. Well, we should say it's sour mix and pineapple juice is the piss. And then floating on top is the shit dark rum. It's a 2-1-1. Yes.

And it's a shot and then you flush it down your throat. You flush it down your throat to drink. But it is good. It tastes kind of like a teaky drink. Sounds good. Everybody on Earth loves it. We call it a biggie small shot. It's a 2-1-1-21-1.

The ratio. parts. Two one one, a two one one. So people have been making these and and tagging us in the pictures, but people also been going out to bars and ordering them because it's a three ingredient drink. If you have a friendly bartender, it can work out. If not, it doesn't. But here, a couple of people, some people have been reporting about how that went.

And we actually got a tape from famed Slophead Garth Watson in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. he went to Cork Harbor Pub in Pittsburgh. Wow. And he went in there with a printout. Kind of like, remember that cocktail that Johnny's dream or this old guy named Johnny had a business card that had his favorite cocktail recipe. We should fucking make those for the piss and shit.

That's a really good idea. That's not a bad idea. Just leave him at the bar. So Garth went into this pub and he had printed out our recipe and went up to the bar and Jeff hit the clip. Hey, can you get a second? Can I have a piss and shit, please? I printed the ingredients for you.

It's the sloppy boys invented it. You know who the sloppy boys are? Yeah. Yeah, they're a comedy rock band. They host, where they make cocktails, different cocktails every week. They also have another, like, a bonus episode every week. It's actually better than the normal.

podcast. It's behind a paywall, but it costs only like $5 a month. It's worth it. They're doing that Star Wars prequels right now. Wow. Here's your piss and shit. Yeah, well, here's your piss and shit. I like to play.

Wow. That's that salesman technique that like, you know, door-to-door salesman have you just don't give them an opportunity to say, I'm not interested. Or just as soon as you start talking, don't stop. Keep going. You shouldn't have to do that if you're the one buying the thing, though. That seems like a bad, uh, yeah.

I like also that, that move of like, I feel like people have done this before with tapes. They sent it up where they're ready, they're ready for it. Like that bartender did. I think that bartender was a friend, a friend of his.

So, uh, yeah, uh, she knew. But like, it's funny when you're, like, do you know what the sloppy boys are? And she's like, yeah.

And he's like, well, they're a comedy rock band. And he just like launched into his pre-memorized spiel anyway. And she's just politely like, yep, yes. Yep. Yep. But he sent a video of the drink. I watched it on Instagram. It was beautifully made.

And so there you go. Folks, go to Corcor Harbor Pub in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. If you want to order a piss and shit and have them be agreeable. Oh, nice job. Now let me tell you a little fun fact about Garth. We've met him before. He has probably three years ago. He ran across the United States with his dad.

You didn't see that coming, did you? You never expect it. I didn't expect it when he told me. Well, I think that that's a, it's an amazing feat. and it's also a very cool, sweet thing he did it with his dad, but you kind of said it in the way of just... He ran across the country with his dad.

He didn't have any friends when he did with... I got to wonder, is the dad a helper hindrance? Like, I did, and I did it with my dad. No, I think it was at all, it was a good... It was like something, he had graduated or his dad turned to a certain age or something. It was a big milestone. I think his dad graduated.

His dad graduated. There is a... It's a sweet spot where, like, you and your father are roughly both strong enough to do the same thing. It's like a very narrow window, like, post-college. Yeah. Yeah. That was the window. My dad kept me like, hey, Mike, this is the wrestling window.

You want it? You want me? I was like, no, no, no, no. I don't need that. I don't need that smoke pops. I remember, like, being a kid and racing against my dad and he always beat me and the idea being like, well, but some. but someday Tim will grow and he will win. I don't think that ever happened.

I don't think I've ever run, actually. He's conveniently retired from racing whenever I left college. I'll get him someday. Do it now. Do it now. Okay. And then next piece of booze news, all this talk of tour dates, touring, you guys touring. You know, the sloppy boys are going on tour.

And we're talking about a big summer tour. Toronto Drake Underground. July 15th. Buffalo Rec Room, July 16th. Wow. Pittsburgh, Bottle Rocket, Social Hall, where Garth Watson lives. July 17th. He'll probably run to the show. This fucking bad.

Detroit, Smalls, July 19th. Cleveland, Beechland Tavern, July 20th. Minneapolis, Zora Darling, July 22nd. And then we're closing it out in Chicago at I. At the I.O. Comedy Fest. Get tickets online. Holy shit. And you know,

Duss is going to be fresh off his tour with Kenny, so you might even see some new material out of me, folks. You were going to be nonstop in July. That's right. That's right, Mike. That's what we like. We at Sloppy Boys LLC. What's he doing? He's blasting him. Here's the plan.

Sloppy Boys LLC. We love our artists to be out and about. Right. We love our artists out there. We only have two artists. We do not. do not keep our artists here on the shelves where they're out they're doing sharing their art meal it had a big big Netflix as a joke show so you uh I feel like we're getting out there we're kind of seeping into every aspect of media I like this we're sort of like we're like cash money records or like

or like you remember you know like Wu Tang had like Wu Tang affiliates yeah you know like there's you know like was it was like 13 members of the actual clan but then there were like other people I always assume Redman was part of like the auxiliary groups. The auxiliary. Yeah. Kenny, you're one of the, you're Red Man to our

Oh. Yeah. I'm Method Man. You're Red Man. Okay. We're writing you into our LLC. You just have to give us the masters of that.

Yeah. And no saying cancel, cancel. Oh, man. Well, I've always wanted to be part of an LLC. We write that into the contract. No cancel. Damn. Can I actually a bit of fun fact, the guy who told me to cancel the contract is the co-founder of DFA Records.

This guy Jonathan Galkin, who is like, was friends with James Murphy. And a small, small, small world, he is a massive comedy fan. And he loves the three of you. Oh, hell yeah. Really? Oh, that's fun. I like this guy. He sounds pretty fucking cool.

that's awesome well is that it for boo's news wrap it up wrap it up meelin music makes the people come to let me add an add

an addendum I just want to say I'm not I wasn't making fun of Garth's dad I think that's cool that they did that because now I'm gonna see

Garth he's like you fucking talk shit about me no no Gar you talk shit about my dad I ran across country with him

yeah no shit dude it's the only thing we know about him Yeah, we get it, Garth. You ran across the country. Get a personality, okay? Jesus Christ.

No, that guy rules. And listen to this, Slopheads. Garth, we respect his opinion so much. We played at one time in Pittsburgh at Bottle Rocket Social Hall. Then last time on tour, we played at a different venue. And at the T-shirt table, Garth was like, you guys, could you go back to Bottle Rocket Social Hall? And we're like, yes. And so on the new tour, he requested a venue.

That's how much we value the slumphead. Your wish is our command, Garth. And now without out of the way, we turn our attention to the drink of the day, the main event. This is why people tune in. Ooh. That's right. The drink of the day is the Roy Rogers, Coca-Cola and Grenadine, often garnished with a cherry. Who's had it?

Yes, of course, of course I've had. I don't know if I've had. Really? You've heard? I've had Shirley Temples as a kid, but I've never ordered the Roy Rogers. Now, have I gotten freaky at the Coke Freestyle machine and maybe accidentally made one? Yeah, who knows? You kind of see red and just start hitting buttons over there.

I sort of go berserk in there. Whatever I come out with, I don't know. Yeah, Jeff, you're going to miss the movie. Come on. Get him off that thing. He's like, just on it like a tick. You don't see any of the movie. And then we're walking back in the car.

perfectly happy with your evening. I nailed it. Now, Kenny, this was one you brought in. You're a non-drinker. Although, we went to 4,100 when you first came to L.A. Uh-oh. Maybe.

What's your relationship with alcohol? Well, glad you asked. No, I used to really rip it up, and now I don't, I'm sober. But, yeah, no, I, but the reason I picked the Roy Rogers that I that is a beverage I've enjoyed pre uh like drinking as well like it is kind of connected

to like me being a kid and like growing up I don't know for some reason like new england has some of those old school diners where you could like make a vanilla coke like the classic way where you get a coke with a pump of like vanilla syrup and so that was like Shirley temples or Roy Rogers were sort of like diner things and then when I was drinking I would I loved putting like a little bit of like uh you know whiskey or something or rum in there making a little fun. Right, right, right. Particularly heinous part of my college life, vanilla vodka in a...

Yeah. You know, just when you were powering through. It's such a funny thing like just like asking you if you drink alcohol because the answer is always like, like, oh, I never really liked it or I liked it way too, way too much. It's such a funny thing. There's like no, it's really no in the middle. But then let me ask you this. If you always,

so this is a drink from your youth diners in New England, and then it was in some of your cocktails. But then modern day you, who doesn't drink alcohol, has this resurfaced as a thing. If you're at a diner, are you ordering this? Yeah, I think like sodas can be like a fun, like,

because it's something that's at bars. And like you can easily like, it looks like you're drinking a mixed drink. But I also just generally like, I don't know. Yeah, I really like, like, I love Coke plus ingredient. I think that's something I really enjoy like Coke lime, Coke lemon. I just love the little bit of something. And Grenadine always felt like a weird. I always felt like, I guess when I was like 15 ordering a Roy Rogers, I felt sophisticated because they're like, you're putting Grenadine and Coke now. Now I didn't know you're going to Grenadine and Coke now. Okay. Yeah, you know what? Mine was, did you guys have a chain called the Ground Round Round? Yes.

Yeah, the Ground Round. We had one at the Hudson Valley Mall in Kingston, New York in the 90s, and it was just like the most fun family restaurant. It was like a Fern Bar. What I would picture of is a Fern Bar. Like, it's like the brass. Yeah, because it had the Tiffany Lampson Brass. So, yeah, it was, but like then also very family because it was like baskets of popcorn

on a table, three stooges like on a movie screen. And then we. Cranes everywhere. The best was there was a balloon man in like a red jumpsuit. Yeah. Walking around doing balloons, making balloons for tables, but he always did bits with you like,

he'd ask if your mom was your sister. And you'd like, no, that's my mom. He was trying to date everybody's mom. I told him last time we were here. He's got no memory. But that's where,

I just remember my sister ordering Shirley Temple so me and my, brother got Roy Rogers and I think it's how I came Right. Roy Rogers is very much the waiter being like and for the guys you'll have the Roy like it's like you can't have a girl thing so we got the boys version. Yeah it was very

gendered back in our day. Yeah. For real. So it is just I looked up the history and it really is just the Shirley Temple was around like started at the Brown Derby in Hollywood in the 30s. Some say Chasin's a Royal Hawaiian but Shirley herself who didn't like the drink because it was too sweet

says it was the brown derby. But then it was like that was around for a decade or so. And then they just needed like a boy, a boy one. So the Roy Rogers is, it is just truly the boy answer to the Shirley Temple. Shirley Temple is like lemon lime soda, Sprider 7 up or ginger ale. And then they just swapped to Coke. And they call it Roy Rogers because Roy Rogers was like a cowboy, the king of the cowboys in movies. But he wasn't a child.

that's kind of the thing. Like I was like, oh, so he was like a little baby. The one to one is not right. I know. That's what I think that maybe boys wouldn't want to, maybe there wasn't a child start, but I think that boys would just want to be a cowboy. They wouldn't want to be like a cute little boy.

I don't want to be another little boy. Do you want to Roy Rogers or a little buccaroonie? A little buckaroonie with a teeny little dick. Hey. But, But I do think ordering it in that the gender binary drink orders of the 90s, I do think that that's what taught me what grenadine was because it's so similar to a cherry Coke, but it wasn't a cherry Coke.

So then I feel like my dad was like, it's got grenadine. And that just sounds like such a fancy word for what it is. Like it sounds like a chemical, you know, like. Yeah. Are there? It sounds like, it always felt like, sounds like or made me think of granite, like a like a rocky thing. That's what it is.

They grind up rocks. Well, you guys are from the granite state. Of course, you'd be talking about that. Mike, pomegranate. Is that the nomenclature? Pomegranate, grenadine. I think so. I mean, I'm no linguist.

Pomeranit, granite, granite. Now, is that a song? Not yet. That's good. We need a groove. Once we lay down that groove, we got a song. Now, Coca-Cola, that's a good. base. Now, I have

grenadine, Rose's grenadine I'm going to add, but then also for round two, well, I have some tricks up my sleeve. Yeah, I mean, hey, if there's a dirty Shirley, then a dirty Roy. I mean, I like the sound of this vanilla vodka. Yes. Well, I even mean

alternate cherry cherry juice. I'm going to use some luxardo slime, some of that sweet luxardo slime for some of that's cool. Wait, doesn't Grenadine have a little bit of like a 5% alcohol in it? No. Or maybe...

No, no, no, no, no. That's impossible. It's just sugar. Maybe you're thinking about how bitters has booze in it? Maybe. I feel like I was just using some agree. I was like, oh yeah, this does have booze. Maybe it's... Bitter's like 80 proof, but you only put the T-needle dash, so

lots of people drink the bitters in the soda. But, um, okay, so there's, there's not really like a definitive recipe for this. I found on this website we've sometimes referenced spruce eats.com. They had, they at least made some choices here. I liked it. They said six ounces of cola, and then they said

a half ounce to an ounce of grenadine to taste, pour into a tall glass with ice, stir, garnish with a cherry. I don't think that, I think that almost every recipe I looked at really did just say to taste. Like some people are putting a dash and some people are kind of going nuts with it. I feel like six hours, like you kind of do fill up a soda glass.

So I think I'm going to do. I'm going to do six ounces of cola and one ounce of grenadine. But I think it's really just sort of like in a Collins glass or like a high ball glass, like fill it up almost all the way with Coke on ice. And then grenadine to taste. I don't know, half an ounce, an ounce. And then top with the cherry. It's funny to have measurements for a drink like this because I would imagine at a bar,

a bartender being like, what? Okay. There's Roy Rogers. He's not measuring out the greenerone. I think also, with this drink is one that like you they probably err on the side of making it too sweet because especially with a lot of kids ordering it they want they want to taste the grenadine and if you just have like a classy coke with a little i wouldn't taste a grenadine yeah me too i love grenadine

fuck grenadine have you seen the the shirley temple king have you seen that kid oh yes he he reviews them yes it's a child and his whole thing is like he's like searching for the perfect because I guess, to your point, the ratios all over the place. He'll be like, no, this one's a little too sweet. Like, he's looking for the perfect ratio. That kid, that kid's very funny because I can feel on him like sort of the David Portnoy pizza influence on him. So, but he'll take a sip and like, you could tell that, because you're off, you can make it

with seven up or ginger ale. And so like when he, he, and he prefers ginger ale. So if he takes, this is like a nine year old boy, by the way. in Florida. But when he takes a sip, if it's seven up, he'll be like, okay,

it's seven up and that's fine, but, you know, like, it is a great, great ratio with the, but like, it's kind of the way that,

like, like David Portnoy is like, I don't like this, I don't like this Troite style so you can't get this good of a great. But like, he's, there's so few moving parts to,

yeah, that he's got to make a lot of like, no, I wouldn't actually don't really do that. Damn. All right. Well, let's go make these up so we can come back and chit-chat. I'm looking forward, personally, I like when the soda is so high in the glass that the bubbles are tickling at my nose when I take that.

That's what I'm after. That's the rush I'm after this episode. I like that when it's up so high that it's tickling nose, even with a straw. Wow. It's going on that high. All right, folks, we'll be right back with more sloppy boys after this. When did you move to L.A.? Kenny?

Three years ago. You want to remember this because I asked Jeff how long you've been here and you said, at this point, I'm like an old wise tree. It's like this thing that's stuck in my head. I can't believe I've been in L.A. for 20 years. It's crazy. It's as long as I was in my childhood home. Yeah, longer, right?

Yeah, longer. Well. Because I left the nest at 18. You left the nest at 18. You left a nest. Tweet, tweet, bitch. You left a nest. All right, ready?

Yep. And we're back. Let's see him. Damn, I got a nice cherry sitting pretty. I don't know if he can see him. Ooh. Beautiful. Yeah.

Ooh, Kenny, very nice. Nice. Good looking drinks. I got, I had a Mexican Coke in a glass bottle. Oh, nice. Mm-hmm. Wow. Fancy man.

I'm going for it. Well, first sips. Here we go. Sippies. Mmm. Mm. Oh. I'm glad I didn't skimp on the Grenadine.

Me too. It's a little weird adding syrup to Coca-Cola. It's funny to think of that. Makes it thick. It is funny, though. It's not on this, I think this is delicious. And the Coke, it is like a full-strength sugary soda,

but like it does. There's like, there's, what you're saying about like adding anything to coke like they're weirdly there's space on the canvas for something else with coke and then i don't like a cloyingly sweet drink but like this one uh i mean this is sweet as fuck i put i put a lot of grenadine but it just really works i think it to me it's like it's not but it's not a cherry coke which is when i just tasted it so it's like oh right it's not the same flavor as cherry coke it is like whatever grenadine is when i hear cheer wine that's not a cherry coke which is like whatever grenadine is when i hear cheer wine that This is the taste I think of because I don't have a child. I love to your wine. Is that a southern soda? Yeah, I think I've had it like once or twice. So I kind of forget.

But is it close to this? Kenny, it kind of feels like a thicker Coke. Yeah. My wife's family for a while lived in North Carolina. It is that, it is that like red flavor. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like the ones I've had when I had it, it was like I couldn't do more than one. It was just kind of a lot. I think I invented a drink called the Calpey Cordial, which is cherry-coated. and Spiced Rum. And our friend Brett Nash, who's from South Carolina,

he was making them, he got, like, or bought around for us at a show. And I feel like they had cheer wine. Like, not a lot of bars just have cherry Coke there. So they have to, they tend to use grenadine. But, like, in the South, they've, like, had cheer wine at bars. Is Fago Big Red also that? Oh, that's got this other flavor that I can't. It kind of tastes a little bit like, you ever have that U.K.

soda, Iron Brew that's like orange? Yes. I feel like Big Red is that kind of taste, like almost cream soda-ish, but of funny color for no reason. I don't know. That's weird. We did a whole Fago episode. I really like Iron Brew. Iron brew is weird.

Iron brew. I got to look this up. Man, I miss. I'm saying it's back. Full strength Coke is back. For a long time, we were trying not to drink full strength. sodas and we were trying to do Coke zeros and Diet Coke's and stuff like that.

I'm saying as long as it's cold, it needs to be cold, let's be honest. If it's a warm Coke, I'm struggling. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Even at the bottom, by the end of your can, you're like, what is this shit? Who does it want a nice cold kind of cold? I'm loving full strength Coke.

It generally for me is like a movie theater thing or like, yeah, if you add booze to it, like, The joke for millennials for a long time was just like, ew, I don't drink soda. Well, there's whiskey in it. Then okay. You know, but full strength Coke is back, especially in minis.

Give me those mini. Oh, yeah. The minis are great. Because that's just enough. Were you not drinking Coke, Jeff? Were you drinking Diet Coke or something? I don't know. I just like, I kind of stopped buying Coke as an adult at the grocery store,

but not out. Like, I would still get a Coke at a restaurant or at a movie or something like that. Annie, when you're out at a bar or something, what are some of the other drinks you're getting besides a Roy Rogers? Or a Shirley Temple. Like what are ones that, or even brands? Like, do you like that athletic? Is that what it is?

I do like athletic. The proliferation of those NA beers are good. I do, however, have to, my move is that I always ask for the can because I do get worried that you never know. Like, when I go to birds, they have non-alcoholic Guinness, but I'm like, can I have the can? So that I'll make sure. Right. Yeah. Oh, so they don't accidentally pour.

Yeah, you never know with a busy bar. But I like soda water and lime. I'm a big fan of Diet Coke in Lyme. There's something Diet Coke because it kind of tastes like metal makes me feel like I'm being sophisticated. You know what I mean? It bites your tongue. Kate, are you a Diet Coke guy? They're devoted addicts to like Diet Coke specifically.

Oh, I'm not that kind of guy. I had a, I had like an improv coach way back in the day who sent her assistant director out to go buy her like three leaders of Diet Coke and she drank them all during the rehearsal. Like not that. Just visceral memory. But yeah. No, but I do remember when my dad and his friends were playing Rolling Stones cover songs in our basement and they were drinking beer. I was drinking a Diet Coke and I didn't like the way it tasted. And I'm like, I'm part of this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. because it's sort of like, you know, it felt adultness. Like, this drink's pushing back a little bit. Right. Yeah. It is funny that I felt like when, yeah, when we got Coke Zero, it was like, hey, Coke the code. This tastes like so much more like Coke.

But then like, I think not even just weirders. I think a lot of people prefer Diet Coke and they're like, no, I like sucralose or whatever, whatever that's. Yeah, yeah. Yes, the Nutrisweet aspartame. Yeah, not really. I like Diet Coke when I'm out. But at home, like, I would just buy Coke regular Coke Zero. I wouldn't do them.

I bet you all four of us could tell the difference between the Cokes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, it's not close. Coke Zero tastes like full-strength Coke for one second. Right. And then suddenly it goes away. You know what was big, though, is when Coke Zero changed the can, now it's a red can, but with black lettering instead of white lettering. For a long time, it was a black can.

and it felt like it was sort of doing too much of a thing. And then there's something about the red visual. Like, I want the can I'm holding to be red when I'm drinking Coke. And that helped me. It's interesting how aesthetics can. I remember the gold can. There was like, maybe this was caffeine free. Oh, yeah.

They still make it. Heavy free is so funny. Those are so retro and crazy. I bought those ones in Ralph's just because I saw them. And I was like, I just remember seeing them and like, like my grandma. home. Yes. My parents' house is like the only place I've ever seen caffeine-free Coke.

And I seem to remember it tasting pretty similar to Coke. I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. The difference. But caffeine-free diet cook is funny because you're like, come out. Loosen up a little bit. You got to have some joy in your life somewhere, Mom.

What's even in there? But I guess like that is for my grandmother also like caffeine-free Pepsi or or Coke. but like it's because they wanted to drink it at night watching like cheers and wheel of fortune and shit and go to bed. Oh yeah, this is going to keep me up all night. But also back in the day people used to like after dinner just have like coffee in the living room and then just go to bed hopped up on caffeine. When people used to go out to dinner and like you see movies, it's like late night and it's like should we get a coffee before we go. Like on Seinfeld and stuff they get coffee at night. It's crazy.

Decaf. I mean, I do that. I do it just because my grandparents did it. And I, it ruins my night, but I really like doing it. You're just bounding it against you. So like you'll, you'll, after dinner, you'll, you'll drink a coffee after dinner. Yeah, I'll like, I'll get an espresso after dinner and be like, I like the, I just, I don't know why. You'll be like, Nemo and Pat Pap are going to be proud.

Are you just up all night then? Yeah. I mean, I don't have an answer before. Besides, I leave the restaurant going, I looked pretty cool. Didn't I? They're like, you had a coffee. I had an Italian restaurant. and have an espresso after dinner.

You feel like a worldly guy that's got stories to tell, you know. Well, if you're planning on being out until one in the morning, that's fine. But like normal life now, I'm never doing caffeine afternoon. No way. Yeah. I had a funny thing recently where I was at me and friend of the pod, Mookie Blakelock, were eating dinner at Columbo's in Eagle Rock, red sauce Italian place.

We're sitting at the bar. We both order spaghetti and meatballs. and we each had one drink. I had like a martini and we ate our spaghetti and we're done and pretty full. He's had one drink, a pint glass full of marinade sauce. And fill my pockets while you're at it. But I wanted to be a cool kind of a guy.

So afterwards I was like, watch is, I'm going to get a DJ Steve. So I said to a bartender, I was like, hey, can I get a Furnette Branca? And he was like, yep. And then he poured me the biggest chalice of Frenet Bronca. So much so.

I was like, hell yeah, look at this. And then Mookie, uh, almost in an uncool. Like he apologized later. Like the barterter was putting it down.

He was like, whoa. I'm like, shut up. I want the heavy pour. And the bigger deal you make the more I have to tip him. He's like, no,

he's not drinking that. Send it back. Or charge him twice, please. Like no exaggeration. This is like eight to 10 ounces of Frenet. And I was like, uh,

the type of guy that I am, I was like, well, this was, I didn't. I just wanted like a little thing to be kind of a classy Italian man, but I was like, Mookie,

you're driving home. I'm, I guess I'm just going to. I guess I'm your problem now. I totally did. I just drank the whole thing and I don't remember the end of the night. That place is known for, or wait,

it was it, it's not still around anymore, right? Or is it? Yeah, this was just this past Saturday. It's, it's a wonderful.

It was, it's known for its heavy pours. I remember drinking like a martini there and being like, whoa. They give you your own personal little shaker. like leave it out on the table for you. Oh, that's nice. Oh, did I tell you guys about this celebrity run-in I had recently?

No. Let me see. I'm just kind of going back through the convos we had this week. It was today. Did I forget if I text you by because it was like... Oh, no. I haven't even looked at my phone today. I've been reading.

Yeah, so you like to hold the pages within your hands. Oh, if I, well, I can't... The reason I want to get done with this podcast so I can go back to read it. Go ahead, Tim. Well, I'll keep this short so you can get back to your book about salt. Correct. Just pages.

No, I was at Albertsons in Los Phyllis today, buying the ingredients for this drink. Oh. And, you know, they're wonderful staff there, you know, the gang. They were helping to gather up all the stuff. Yeah, sure, sure. Real quick. Kenny, where do you live in? Gather up the Coke and the Grenadine.

Kenny, where do you live in L.A.? We can cut this out, but studio city. Okay. So you're probably more of a Rouse guy. Yeah. There's now a sprouts. The sprouts opened up. Sprouts?

So if you're looking at, if you look, yeah. Is there an arrow one at what used to be the sportsman's lodge, I believe? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a whole complex. You go to Van Lewins. You can go to Roberta's. Wait, Roberta's Pizza?

Roberta's Pizza opened up in Sportsman's Lodge. just, yeah, it's kind of a crazy little thing. I didn't know that LA, I love the Brooklyn one. Wild. Well, I'll go there after the pod while Mike's reading his book. But so I'm at Albertsons and Lois Phyllis and the team is going to help me up the ingredients because Tim's got a big episode of Kenny Gray's coming on. Everyone's helping me, you know, the townspeople are gathering.

This sort of town people are getting together. The team, I get you, got you. Gotcha. You know how like in Cinderella, like the rats all get her dressed. It's sort of like that. I think also I shredded into Albertsons with such a big vibe that everyone was like, what's going on with Tim? Let's call him.

Whatever he's doing, we want to be a part of it. He looks like he's got a plan. So I get to, I mean, yeah, I was making the Roy Rogers, right? So I get that Coke. And then I get the grenadine. And then someone is like, hey, Tim, what do you making? And everybody looks at me. and I was kind of put it on the spot and I was like...

Was this a staff member or not? This is just a customer. This, the staff I know, this was like just a guy passing through. He must have been an out-of-towner. Okay. He was like, hey, what are you making? And I was like, oh, well, it's this great drink. It's Coca-Cola, Grenadine, and it's, you know, he was like, yeah, well, what's it called?

And I was like, well, it's named after this cowboy guy. And they're like... Right, right. Yeah, well, what's his name? Are he staring at you? I'm, you know, I started to get a little. a little sweaty. I hadn't taken a beta block or anything, so my hands are shaking out. And I was like, well, what's the guy's name? And I was like, I mean, Rogers, you know.

Right. Right. You got to know, so this is Los Angeles. So they're like, what, Ben Rogers? No. Scott Rogers, no. Okay. Nobody from the LA improv scene whatsoever. So very specifically, the UCBLA improv scene from 2010s. Yes. So everyone's like, well, like, who? And I'm like, oh, no, it's, it's, uh, and I then in that moment, I'm going to tap on my shoulder.

I turn around. Los Feliz's own Charlie X, CX was standing behind me. Wow. This is like the, this is huge. This is huge. This is huge for me. Kenny, this happens a lot, though. will be in like their grocery store

of the post office and some mega star will pipe up we'll poke their nose into our business this happens a lot but this is huge this happens on the podcast

every couple episodes and it's huge and I'm gonna ask this question and I don't make it sound rude and this really happened yes no thank you for asking because that got lost in the show

I meant to maintain yeah thanks the tone was getting towards this like kind of unrealistic jokey tone but I'm glad we said this is all happened.

No, no. But you, I mean, you guys know Charlie at her 30th birthday at Tenants of the Trees. I did not know that. Right. Wow.

That's huge. Brad Summer, Brad Summer. It's where she reunited with Lord, for Christ's sake. Oh! Where were you when they were the Titans reunited? So I turned to her.

I said, oh, my, Charlie, I'm a huge fan. She's like, don't worry about that. You know, I'm here to help you.

He seems stressed out. And I was like, I can tell you didn't take the beta blocker. Yeah, exactly. Did she slip you a little beta blocker? She did? I popped it in and then I could, I calm down and I told her, here's the issue. I'm trying to think about this.

There was this, this is Rogers guy with this drink and it's a cowboy guy and this drink's named after him, but it's a Rogers guy. And but I'm blanking. I'm really blanking. And can I ask you a quick question? Yes. The crowd that is gathered around you. Are they all hanging out?

on your every word. They're falling asleep. You are losing me here. You started popping beta blockers, dude. That's how wrapped up in the reason. Hey, I wish I had beta blockers. So I say, I don't,

it's this, it's a cowboy guy, this Rogers guy, I don't know, I don't know. I'm trying to think of it. And then she looks at me with that knowing look.

For the third time, yeah. And she opens her mouth to answer, and I grab my phone and I luckily hit record. Oh, thank God. And I was like, yeah, it's Rogers, but what, Charlie?

And she says, Jeff, hit the clip I sent him. I think you've been thinking about Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Owen, one other thing when you mix up that drink. Make it on the rock. Brat's back bitch.

Oh, wow. She said that. I knew Brat was back. That's amazing. That's amazing, too. Can I just say from a vote, from a production standpoint, using the SpongeBob throat thing instead of stuttering and repeating the clip. That's really good. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's what Charlie did in the studio.

I saved a lot of money on, you know, plugins and filters. Right. Hell yeah. Wait, wait, you saved Charlie. I did. Okay. She, oh, no, yeah, she did it live. So then I, afterwards, I was like, the way that you just said, Rock, is that how you did it on the new album?

And she was like, yes. Yes. Yes, brat. Me and A.G. That's exciting. Wow. Now, did you, and that was it. You just learned that.

And I remember with the crowd dispersed. Roy. I was thinking about Roy is what I was trying to think of you. Gotcha. Did you ever, did you maybe get a connection, network a little bit with Charlie XXXXX. one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now. Maybe we could get us on a bill with her somewhere. You know what?

She actually didn't seem interested. I was saying if we could do a double bill. And her point was that she would sell out the venues alone as a headliner. So adding us as a double headliner, it didn't seem like that there was much in it for her. What about the blue dot fever thing? Oh, she doesn't know about blue dot. Well, there's blue dot fever right now. There's blue dot fever.

Yeah. She's in for a rude away. Yeah. Okay, Charlie, yeah. She doesn't know about Blue Dot. You're turning around. Everybody, she doesn't know about Blue Dot. Well, I don't know.

All the towns people say, doesn't know it. No, she'll find out. Now, let her go. So he's marching up to tell her, hey, don't, come on. She's going to find out the hard way. I want to do another one of these, partly because I got to turn the AC on here.

Yes, we'll do one more. I'm going to throw a shot of vodka in mine and make it a dirty Roy. Oh, that vanilla vodka you were talking about. I might just start with normal vodka and see if the grenadine needle comes through for me. And me, I'm going to try that absolutely luxurious. Luxardo, Mariscino, cherry juice, as you call it, Mike. That thick syrup, I think it's going to maybe overpower, but I just, I want to see what's up. I've been saving it like I used to save Zaps, voodoo pretzel dust.

I'm saving the nectar from the cherries. That blew up at our face. that was not good but this will be good this will work Kenny you doing anything different to your round two you're gonna add a lime

you're gonna add a another chair I don't know I guess I'm gonna go to my fridge see what I got and see what I think in there might work with it

that's exciting let me ask you this in round one were you happy with your grenadine ratio are you gonna toggle at all yes

I think I think I could there's a little sick part me that likes the thickness of the syrup. Yes. So there is some, yeah. So you got ratioed in a good way.

He got ratioed and he liked it. Yeah, I might go up. You're kind of thinking a glass of grenadine with a little with a little dash of coconut. I like that. Do you make these? I forget if we asked you this. Did you make these at home at all?

No, I bought the grenadine for this. Nice. It's more something that like I would get out at like, I don't know, a restaurant if they have it or a bar. Yeah. Especially, if somebody's making these at home, that's insane. I'm doing it. Well, I was going to say, though, there is something fun.

We be talking about it sometimes where it's like, hey, I can do this restaurant thing in my house. Ooh, look at me. I'll tell you what, Kenny, here's a wonderful thing about Sloppy Boys LLC, is you're getting reimbursed for that grenadine you bought, my friend. Oh, that's right, folks. We take care of our guests. That's how we do things here at the Sloppy Boys LLC.

Say, guests of the sloppy boys get reimbursed for their catching court purchases. It's like the end of like Oprah, real a fortune. Stay at the all sweet Omnihoto. When we, when we played in Chicago, they put us up on the magnificent mile and we were like, guess of the Oprah Winfrey showplay. Stay at the magnificent mile. You should do a guest of the sloppy boys sleep comfortably in their own beds. Or wherever they want to sleep.

wherever they decided to sleep that night. All right, folks, we're going to make round two when we come back. Final thoughts. We're back, folks. We have round two here. Yes. My fancy cherry syrup sank to the bottom like tar. I'm scraping it up, trying to get it going.

I'm just sucking it off the bottom. That's sad. Hey, what about this? Good, though. I just invented something. Instead of having a straw, what if you have a special glass that has a hole in the bottom

and a straw built in that sucks from the bottom of the glass? That exists. I think they have, yeah. I remember those. Fuck, I'm fucked. I'm so fucked. No, no, no, no.

We can do what we can work with this. Maybe it just goes, maybe it goes in the top of the glass and you don't get anything. We can find a way to spin this. My friends growing up had those cereal bowls. Did you ever see those that had like a built-in straw so you can drink the milk?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It always felt a little decadent for me. These are the fancy kids, yeah. A little decadent. Ooh. This is, I added vanilla vodka in here. This is pretty good.

This feels like an alcoholic vodka Coke. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sorry, vanilla. Alcoholic. Yeah, sure. It shines through. Mm.

I added vodka and this is delicious. And I think that a dirty Roy is worth getting at a bar. I think I might like it more than a dirty Shirley. But I will say maybe vodka isn't it. Maybe white rum like just would be nice. Coupa Libre style. Like a rum and coat. Yeah, yeah.

Kenny, like your tweaks. Yeah, what did you add? I added twice the amount of grenadine. Oh, yeah. And then I also added some of the juice from the mereschino, maraschino, the cherry jar. machine here, but the cherry jar. I don't know.

Maraschino we've been told, but I'm a celebrity bartender, Jack Schramm says Schino. It just doesn't. I heard someone say Marischino recently and I was like, am I wrong? No, I said it a couple minutes ago. I didn't know. I was going on. Oh, okay.

It was you where I heard it. I think in reference to cherries, I mainly hear Marichino. And then in reference to Maraschino, like Luxardo, Italian liqueur, I hear barrescino. So it might be like an Italian guy, I think. Ah, like Gabagool. Like Gabagool. Like Gabagool.

Well, it doesn't taste great. Too sweet. Too sweet. You overshot. Yeah, it tastes like I'm drinking like a melted, like slushy a little bit. Like a little bit of Jerry. I'm sipping it and going like, ooh, oh. Like there's a little strong. Oh.

That's funny. I can see, Kenny, you're strong with you're sipping. Your straw is so red. I could attract hummingbirds with this. Oh my gosh. It looks like blood. Like nectar. I got some surprising news for you.

So I got my grenadine here. It's Balane. Balane, Balene, Grenadine. Never seen that. It's 2% alcohol. Foreproof. Whoa.

Well. But I noticed this. It is a liqueur. So that's probably the... Grenadine lique. Yeah. You will find that with a roses. No.

But I've never seen... 2%. Does it taste different, Mike? Let me see. 2% like 2% milk? It's 2% milk fat. Wow. That's like good tasting cough syrup. It's like so thick.

Are you getting like pomegranate at all or like this really just tastes like kind of like sweet. You know what I mean? Like sugar. There's no real definitive taste. Well, our final thoughts, folks, like every other drink. the show, this must stand up to our harsh adjudication. Kenny, we'll begin with you. Is this a drink you would order again?

Yeah, I think so. It's a nice treat. It's not like, I couldn't see, I couldn't see myself ordering this constantly, but it is like a nice. You can take a little break between drinks. You know, that is it your new drink? Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like, I wouldn't order five of these before I ordered my main course. Yeah, no, it's good.

I like, I like, I kind of forgot that grenadine offers like a nice body to the soda. It does, it does change the way it kind of feels in your mouth. And I think the flavor of grenadine is, it's nice. Yeah, it feels almost like a, like a cousin to a teaky drink in some weird way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. Mike, your thoughts, submit them, please. It's an order again for me

In a way that's You know I would do it with the Maybe the vodka add on But I am going to go so far to say That this is a stone coal classic Whoa This is such a classic In the world of drinking

This is this and the Shirley Temple I think it deserves a little Recognition in this world Because it is a statue In the world of drinking It's the thing that you drink When you're not drinking We'll make a statue out of it

Yeah, yeah. Well, what a cool thing that something can be ubiquitous, but not like popular. Like I haven't heard of a Roy Rogers. Like I haven't heard of said out loud in years. But if I walked into any restaurant and say, can I have a Roy Rogers? They'd say yes. Like it just, it is a base level thing to exist without, without being talked about. And that is kind of cool.

Yep. It's good. Is that your final thought, Tim? My final thought is order again. I think it's great. Here's my question that I'm going to lose. sleepover tonight. On this show, we one time

voted and named the best soft drink we said was a cherry Coke. Yes. I still stand by that. And in fact, one of the nominees was Cherry Cola and Cherry Coke brand beat Cherry Cola because I was like, no, you could put in your

own syrup or whatever, and it was like, no. This is a, I love it. Order again, and I like this with the booze in it as well. But I'm haunted by the fact, what do I like better at Cherry Coke or Roy, I think I'm still going to give it to Cherry Coke. And then Roy Rogers is a nice change. Like, Kenny's getting in my head here, though, with the texture.

I like the thickness. There's a silkiess to this that a Cherry Coke lacks. Yes. Cherry Coke is exactly the same consistency as Coke. It's crisp. You need that, you need that thickness. That viscosity. I once had, I finished it, but I once had a big bottle of Trader

Vicks brand Marasino cherry syrup and it was electric red and it looked just like grenadine, but it was the taste of cherry. I bet if you poured that in your Coke, it would thicken it up like this, but I'm enjoying the silky satin experience. I'm glad. That was what my dad who grew up like going to, I guess, getting sodas made live in person. Yeah, that's a live experience. Soda's live.

That's what he didn't like about camp. when they introduced canned vanilla coke, he was like, this isn't the same as putting vanilla syrup in a Coke. Dude, it's like all of my favorite hot chicken places. They used to have the little plastic tubs of the, whatever, comeback sauce, the Aoli, the pink orange sauce that all these places have.

They're all a little different. They all taste fantastic. They're my favorite sauces in the world. Places like Dave's Hot Chicken and even angry chicks down the street, have pivoted to the like made in a factory packets. Yeah. And it's not.

Really? I, it's not as good. Clearly it's not as good. Like, yeah, these are choices that are made for, um,

capitalism and for expansion. This is like shrinkflation. You want them to be mixing up the Hellman's Mayo and a dash of Heinz ketchup in. Yes. And if it's a little different time to time, that's part of the charm. Oh yeah. That's,

that's what the stockholders are thinking, too. If it's a little, if my portfolio is a little different each year, that's fine by me. Different in any direction. This is another important thing to remember about Jeff. If it's evening, like during, in the morning he wants that Starbucks sandwich. In the evening, Kenny, if Jeff seems grumpy, a little hangary, Nashville chicken is kind of his go-to ice that I've seen. That's probably the food I've seen Jeff order the most.

A crispy chicken sandwich, it doesn't always have to be Nashville. I don't like you keeping such a close eye on me. I like keeping on you because I just can't trust you. He's got files on us all, Jeff. I love that too, Jeff. There's a place near me that is a business that's for sure not long for this world, but I love going to it. They make, I love that spicy chicken.

That's my shit. What's going to take this place down? No one's going or is it? It's going to be a smash burger place. It just feels like one of those places that someone's nephew found out hot, chicken was popular. They typed in a name into ChachyPT. The logo's weird, but the chicken's good.

Yeah. We have those. Yeah. Like, Jeff had one that was called Angry Birds and then they had to change the name to Angry Chicks. It was sued by like Rovio or like the Angry Birds company. Like you can just call your restaurant Angry Birds? And mine was hot chikos and it was it was all the same owners that owned like it was like

a Pita place and then it was that and that like it's just. whatever like the moment. Yeah, yeah. Is, that's what it is. Keep an eye on. The next trend I'm seeing guys out there is, uh, Schwarma raps, like these Syrian shwama raps that are real narrow.

Oh, I've seen those. And they're grilled. They're good. I've had, I'd like that. I would like that. It's almost like you took shwarma, but turned it into a Taco Bell item.

It's pretty amazing. And you're eating it off like a sticker at a, I mean, right off the ground. Um, no, it's wrapped up. They,

they, uh, they, you like in tin foil. Aha. I'm not eating that tin foil. That's more of a promise. That's a promise for myself.

Okay. Okay. Folks, I forgot. I got to do my final thoughts. It's an order again. You got to make it yourself. Do it longhand. Do it live.

And get the real stuff. It doesn't have to be great grenadine, but get grenadine. Don't use the cherry sludge. I didn't do myself any favors with that. And batch it. Make them for the whole gang. Make it for a whole family.

Go batch it crazy. Go batch it crazy. Kenny's gone. We lost Kenny. There he is. I'm here. No, there is. He's back.

Sorry, I don't know what happened. That's our show. Follow us on social media. If you can't get enough boys, it's patreon.com slash the Slavie Boys. That's where you get twice as much pleasure every week for a mere $5. Probably the best deal in all of Hollywood as it burns to the ground. Folks, we love seeing you out there. Come out, see us live.

See me and Kenny. That's going to be a fucking blast. I've never done my whole record. I'm going to be doing it. Three shows in June, three shows in July. Kenny, this is going to be fucking awesome. That's exciting. I'm so excited.

Me too. I'm excited to be there. Kenny, I'm excited to see your live show. I always love seeing live stuff and you're a funny talented dude. It's fun. Fun music. Oh, thank you, man. I appreciate that.

You're also a wonderful podcast guest. Ah. Yes. And that will be my next tour. You're just guesting. You go down to Austin, do a little Rogan, you know, great. Where can people find you, Kenny? Like, you got handles and stuff.

You want it, where do you want the title wave of sloppy boys followers to follow you? You can just follow me at Kenny Gray. It's K3 and NYG-R-A-Y. But if you search Kenny Gray, I'll pop up. Just follow me on Instagram. that's where I'm that's the main that's the hub that's the from which all the other spokes emerge that's the main that's the hub can we ask you or can I ask you about the pure imagination song please what was that for or because I noticed in your I was listening to on Apple music and it's got

different speeds and stuff I just didn't know where that like what you made that for so that is a remix that was a okay the short story is that was a Chipotle commercial from 11 to 12 years ago that I watched in college for a class and I was obsessed with Fiona's cover of it. So I ripped it off YouTube and in like 10

an hour made a remix and over the course of 10 to 11 years it blew up on SoundCloud and just like it got tons of play on like Russian TikTok of like goth teens setting themselves it just became and then eventually this guy

who's very nice guy named villain. I suppose that's not a good name for a nice guy. He was like, hey, can I properly mix this? Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Double it and release it on the record label. Right, because I saw it was you and or clapped with, with villain. Yeah. So, and then I guess like that's a thing on TikTok,

the speeds up and down, but it's kind of this weird. It's like the thing that has the most plays on it. Yeah, remix I made my senior year of college. Weird. That's cool. That's cool.

That's cool. Well, I love it. Well, great episode, guys. And great episode, those are you listening at home. Great job today, making it all the way to the end. You did it, folks. We love it. The brave few.

Now, what are we, what's taking us out here? What song we play? I don't smoke, right? Sure. He canceled the deal so we can play the song. Jeff was, a fun fact, Jeff was the first person ever hear that. Oh, shit. You can tell when I,

I listen to it, I can kind of feel that. He heard the demo. Yeah, he came, I forget why he was at my house. I said, I'm working on something. I show it to you. And you went, that's fucking awesome, man. Yeah, it is. I was right.

Man, yeah, I love it. And that's like such a good, you know, we were talking about like style parody or, you know, like, you know, doing a genre a little bit. That feels like Kenny Gray music to me. Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate it. Straight from the high.

Folks, enjoy it, and come on out. We love to see you. See you next week. Later. Bye. Bye-bye. But when I'm drunk, I'll smoke the whole pack. I'll smoke every single left in the world.

For the light, out of the street from every boy and every go. Hey, man. Peace of it. I am vegan, unless I'm drunk. Strictly vegan, unless I'm drunk. Oh, yeah, I'm vegan. Unless I'm drunk. But when I'm drunk

I'll eat the meat and cheese I'll eat every single such in the pot place a hundred a lot need to shop right now because I am in you

because I'm drunk I'm a problem I don't guess you're sorry I'm needed but I promise when I'm sober I'm really I'm fucking good I'm a drinker

I'm a drinker I'm crazy I don't know. I'll stop I'm sure I'm sure