The Sloppy Boys - 4. Tequila Sunrise

Episode Date: November 13, 2020

The guys conjure a staple of the '70s and relive its rock and roll origins.TEQUILA SUNRISE RECIPE 1.5oz/45ml Tequila 3oz/90ml Orange Juice .5oz/15ml GrenadinePour tequila and orange juice directly into a highball glass filled with ice cubes, add grenadine to create the chromatic “sunrise” effect. Do not stir. Garnish with half orange slice or an orange zest. Recipes via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford Hey! And Tim Kalpakis Thanks for listening. And we're your hosts the Sloppy Boys. Tim brings up a good point. Thanks for listening folks out there're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys. Tim brings up a good point. Thanks for listening, folks out there.

You didn't have to, but you decided to listen to us, and hey, we appreciate it. Mike, you're losing them. I'm losing them? They're dropping like flies out there. Too sincere. No, I mean that. I mean that. We've done a couple of these now, and I just wanted to make sure every single person knows

we like that they listen to this. Yeah. Thank you. Subscribe. Hit the subscribe button. That way, pops right up every week. You don't even have to think. Hey, I got something that I wanted to ask you guys at the beginning of this show.

You want to be asked a question? Yeah, let her rip. I'd love to hear it. Great. Well, I was thinking we live in kind of a media age, right? I've heard it described that way. Yes, the digital age yes um we got the 24-hour news cycle everything is go go go information can i shut that thing off once one of these days yeah no but we like it right oh we love it yes we love it but i wanted to shut it off but we love it we do love it well

our listeners they're gen z and they want to have all the information out. So I just think that we, at the top of our shows, you know, we could, if there's any booze news going on, right, in the world, that's the way we could be talking about. Stuff that the 24 hours news cycle will not cover. Stuff that they're afraid to touch with a 40 foot pole. Right. But we're going to get right in there. And hey, listeners, if there's news you want to bring to our attention, you send it to us. But I always think if we're starting right now, I don't have any particular news stories, but I'm looking at – I'm thinking about 2020.

I'm just thinking this is the year of the to-go cocktail, right? This is the year – Among other things, yes. This is the year of the cocktail kit take uh the at home cocktail kind of thing right this is a year that there were all the uh the wannabe white claw spike seltzer seltzers came out right and they all top news items for everybody yeah i'm surprised the 24 surprise they're not covering this on abc a lot of people are getting distracted by election stuff but this is what we should be talking about but there's even more than election stuff but go ahead

no i think the election is where it starts and stops but here's what's really important is this kind of booze news uh that's going on but i thought you know for today i want to ask you guys just for as a starting point what what you guys been drinking recently what if there was a highlight a headline of 2020 in your life in your little home okay you want to press a little glass to your lips yeah what's the top because some people tried new. Other people's reverted to old favorites for comfort. Some people, I think, said, I'm done drinking. I'm going to try to not drink so much because it's becoming a problem here in quarantine. Yeah.

And that's probably the best decision of all. Probably. That's probably a good one to do. I tried it. Can't be done. I did see that drinking did go up like 30% nationwide in quarantine. Damn, dude. I do like when it first, when Corona first hit, Corona beers like weren't selling as well because people were like, it's probably in there.

I heard that news. So I went to Albertsons thinking I'll buy all the cheap Corona. It wasn't even on sale. I think that that was. That was spin, Mike. You got suckered by the spin. See, I get all my news. That's why the 24 hour news does not play that type of stuff my news that's why the 24-hour news does not play

that type of stuff and that's why i can come to this news source for booze news and i will continue to do so booze news is trusted and there's no spin is the thing right there's no spin zone so with you guys what is there anything or you where you just been plugging along as usual what have i i'm uh you know i'm i stick to the, stick to the beers a lot. I'm sort of a sitting beer ready, but I have been making some martinis for myself now and then. Oh. It's gin martini, Hendrix gin.

It's my favorite type of martini. Top shelf, dude. Top shelf. I spend a little extra to get a little more. I spend a little extra to get a lot more. And I do them dirty with the olive and two of those, I forget what's going on in the world.

I'm having a blast. Those will knock you on your ass. Two of those, it's bedtime. 14 hours style. For me, I do the, like a lot of people, it's the year of the seltzer. It's actually year two of the seltzer, I would say.

What do you like? Are you liking Bon Vivre are you liking maha or do you like i'll tell you yep exactly right maha is the way to go i think also i had some of those i had some of those bon vivs on your uh your good word of it and uh i really liked it bon viv cool crisp i added more flavors that i don't like as much. But I felt I started this year, January, February, thinking this is going to be the summer of Bon Vivre. I'm going to be at a pool party chugging these. And then that didn't happen. No, it did not. But so I chug them on my couch just the same.

And it works just as good. I'll say that. I've tried them all. The Corona version is good. I've tried the Bud Light. I've tried the White Claw. tried the white claw i also don't like how many of them do mango i think we can skip mango yeah what is going on uh with why do they all have to do the mango i mean you know that once the jewel does it the jewel pods now everybody's

got to do mango once chris katan did it everybody thought they gotta get it you know i mean drop the mango listen to this i've heard that uh peps Pepsi is going to start getting into the seltzer game, hard seltzer game. Hard? That spin, Mike. Who told you that? They had mentioned I heard it on a podcast, a news podcast. Are you sure?

You have to go fact check that because if it's on booze news, it's my ass on the line. I'll go check it out. But it's, you know, they kind of announced it, but I don't think they realized how difficult it really is. Well, this will be kind of cool. You could be tracking that story. Yeah, I will. like you're like bob woodward right you go and you find out and you're and uh jeff you're you're like bernstein right and then me because i'm helming

the whole thing i'm like trevor noah because i'm funny you know yeah yeah yeah i think you're more like nixon because you're not a crook that I am not a crook, so that's true. There we go. Yeah, my booze news was I was doing beer again, too. I feel like I started the year saying, I'm done with that stuff. And then I listened to a podcast called Business Wars, and they did a season about Bud versus Miller, and I highly recommended it. And then it just makes you really want to chug a nice crisp yellow. Yeah.

Cold can. None of the hoppy stuff. No pun names about the hops. Tim, you can have your beer in a can. Sure. You can have it in a bottle, a glass bottle. In fact, I, a couple of days ago, weekend ago, I was walking around New York City here and happened upon a German beer garden.

Oh, yeah. And there I am drinking here and happened upon a German beer garden. Oh. Yeah. And there I am drinking beer out of a glass boot. Nice. So that's not bad either. That's pretty good. And it does the thing where if you tip it wrong and the air catches weirdly in the toe,

it all splashes back on you. Yeah, it gets you in the face. And did you do that on every sip? Yep, that's right. The guy said, you know, you should probably put it on this rain jacket we have here for our customers. I said, I don't know what you should probably put on this rain jacket we have here for our customers. I said, I don't know what you're talking about. Give me that boot and scoot. Well, folks, you heard it here first.

Hanford drank from a boot. See you next time for more booze news. Wow. Hanford, I'm glad you brought up the Hendrix because you made me a martini and you make them right. Did I use Hendrix gin? I probably did. You don't cut corners. And you don't hear, here's the, go ahead.

Thank you, Jeff. I appreciate it. And I do want to hear more accolades. And I think that's going to be true with our drink of the day here. Oh, yeah. Because if you don't cut corners, you get some primo ingredients. You're going to have a slamming cocktail in your hands. Yeah.

Slamming salmon, baby. Slamming salmon, baby. Here's what I'll say, just going back to the martini. The Hendrix, I don't really know any other types of gin. I think I just started doing Hendrix because I saw it and I had just seen a commercial for it. So yes, commercials work.

And I was at a bar, I was like, uh... Because anytime they ask me what liquor in something, whatever cocktail I ask for, I freeze and I'm like, whatever I can think of or see. And I would say Bombay for a long time because I knew that one. And then I saw Hendrix one time. I was like, Hendrix. And then I've just stuck with that. I mean, I'm impressed. I think that that's a upper shelf kind of a thing. Gin is the one for me that I don't, I mean, I like your Tanger A's. I like your Sapphires, but I buy seagrams because it for it's so cheap yeah and it just

tastes like gin i don't really need a floral i mean hendrix is great but fancy gins sometimes are all too much juniper hey listen to this i was look i was as we're uh you know researching our cocktails and making them and having such a great time with them sure i was looking at what i read this article about like what liquor is best for a cock. Do you need to spend a lot of money on a liquor? Most cocktails, you probably don't. And it said like,

I level on a liquor shelf is like pretty much your goods. Decent stuff. Higher is like really expensive. Lower is not going to make your drink not taste good. See now, but this depends on the height of the shopper. True. True.

Yeah. If you're a child, right. You're getting the bad stuff. What if True. Yeah. If you're a child, right. You're getting the bad stuff. What if I'm Shaquille O'Neal? Huh? Shaquille O'Neal. You're looking over the whole shelf entirely and you're not drinking at all.

And you're taking that into account that if you're, if you're that tall, you can't afford the top shelf. Cause you probably made a killing in the NBA. Right. Right. And if you're short, you didn't make it to the NBA.

So you're drinking the cheap stuff. The really, the only way to make good money is basketball these days, huh? Yeah. Spud Webb, though, he could drink the – he drank on a good budget. Muggsy Bogues. Muggsy Bogues, for instance. Steve Nash, even a small player. Sure.

Sure. Nothing wrong with that, being a little shorter than the other guys on your team. What are we drinking today, huh? Folks, folks, let's talk about the drink of the day nice drink of the week yeah enough of this people don't want a bunch of jibber jabber they don't want booze news they don't want that it's your whole thing you turn on booze news i'm very critical of my own work so do i not have to i don't want to do that follow up on that pepsi story do i have to do that no up on that Pepsi story. Do I have to do that? No, you don't. No, you're the correspondent.

You do whatever you want. If any Pepsi news comes across my desk, I'll bring it here. Folks, we're talking tequila sunrise. Oh, baby. Choice. You know it when you see it. You do know it when you see it. It's one of the easiest ones to pick out. It's got a nice

tropical gradient look to it. we're talking orange up top red on the bottom yeah baby it's it's great what a what a cool uh thing where you can like the drink looks like what it is actually yeah did you guys know the backstory to the drink no i i didn't and i just did a little pokey on the uh wikipedia and i was pleasantly surprised. It's cool. Yeah, it's pretty good. And it's it's pretty good for us, too. I'm really happy about it. I know nothing. Hit us with it. And Hanford, get ready to have your hair blown back, dude. I'll take my hat off.

OK, so there is this drink in the 1930s called the tequila sunrise created by Gene Sullett at the Arizona Biltmore Hotel. But it's not the version we all know and love. This one is tequila, creme de cassis, lime juice, and soda water. Tim, am I saying that right? Cassis?

Or cassie? Maybe it's cassis. Maybe it's cassis. But I think it's like a raspberry liqueur, maybe. Like a Chambord kind of a thing. No, black currant.

Because they got me saying creme. It can't be cassis cram de cassis so cram de cassis be our guest cut to the 1970s the trident and sosolito a popular pier side bar just north up the golden gate bridge from san francisco and and here let me blow your mind i was just there guys you guys. You know I was up in NorCal. I went to the Tri-Dent. You did.

It's cool as hell. Whoa, cut 40 years forward. Tim is there. Now 40 years right back. Then cut back again. Now get in your DeLorean and head back onto the 70s. Now this place is serving it up differently.

They're throwing out the creme. Thank God. And they're bringing in grenadine. Okay. So this is tequila, orange juice, and grenadine, so this is tequila orange juice and grenadine the one we all know and love it's known for its signature orange to red fade and the trident at the time was also a music venue and a countercultural hub you know what i'm talking about yeah hippie stuff yeah you freaks you guys would love this place because it's like it's on

the water but it's this big restaurant like the booths are like these big round wooden booths and i think it was opened by the Kingston Trio. You know those guys? They're kind of like a folky trio from the 50s. My mom was a big fan. It's a perfect mom fan band. But then I went in there. They have all this cool, trippy art on the walls that's very Grateful Dead kind of a vibe.

It's Sausalito. Okay. And it's still open, but it's... Oh, no. It's still open, but it had a different name, it's still open, but it had a different name and now it's back to the trident. Before we continue, I do want to say my mom likes that music

but she also gets let out from time to time. Oh, hell yeah, baby. Black dog! She's really a headbanger, my mom. Okay. Summer of 1972. It's the site of a private party kicking off the Rolling Stones North American tour following the release of Exile on Main Street. Whoa.

You know who was probably there? Keith. And Mick. Very likely. Very, very likely. Bartenders Bobby Lazoff and Billy Rice are working the bar. Up saunters. Mike, take one guess.

Keith. Close. Mick. Mick. Mick jagger keith's friend he saunters up to the bar and his big old lips say oh i may have that one in pretty ones with the fade maybe maybe that will finally give me some satisfaction huh we don't know exactly what he said, but it probably sounded something like that. Yeah, something like that. I'm sure his hands, his wrists were on his hips. He takes one sip of this thing, and it's

love at first sip. Sip. He gets his whole entourage into him. Then, they kick off the tour and they order them all across America in what would become the rowdiest tour the band has ever had. Wow. Keith Richards states in his 2010 autobiography Life that the band nicknamed it the Cocaine and Tequila Sunrise Tour. Yikes. The next year in 1973, Jose Cuervo saw an opportunity and puts the recipe on the back of the bottles, making it a mainstream

hit in bars, restaurants, and living rooms all across the U.S. Despite being considered lowbrow by cocktail snobs, the Tequila Sunrise was a technicolor tipple that defined an era, giving its name to an Eagles song off their 1973 record Desperado and a 1988 Robert Towne film starring Mel Gibson. Ooh.

I saw that one time when I was a kid. I was at a hotel room and I watched that movie. It really is like, it seems like a drink from the 70s, a tequila sunrise. I bet that the Rolling Stones liked it because the orange juice element allows it to be a daytime drink, you know, and then you're allowed to drink it in the morning. And those guys probably balanced it out with their white, white cocaine. Their orange drink and their white cocaine. I used to order these things all the time.

And I kind of forgot about them. I should order them some more. But they taste great. I never knew if it was kind of like a wimpy drink or if you order them it's kind of like yeah it's okay we'll try saying that to mick and the boys would be true that's what i should say to any bartender to give me a cup but it comes the first time i got one it came in like a regular glass and then next time i got it came in like a big like curvy kind of uh yeah vase i think it's oh it's it's good to order it's not wimpy to order i'm very excited for this drink because I feel like in my normal life, I do a lot of

martinis and I do a lot of tiki stuff. But doing this podcast, I was looking forward to the kind of forgotten but just standard. I like a bar where the bar itself has leather upholstery on it and a little bit of a red tint to the light. And it's like a daytime watering hole bar. And I feel like this is as tiki as those places get. I think you are allowed to order it because I do think it's a morning. It's like a screwdriver with a little grenadine.

And it's very easy for a bartender to make. He's not going to be like, yeah, you know, pull out all the stuff. You got it right there. It's too thin. Very easy for you at home. Yeah. Hey, Mike, you know, pull out all this stuff. You got it right there. It's too thin. Very easy for you at home. Yeah. Hey, Mike, I made you one of these one time. In fact, you ordered one of these from me.

Where were you? When was that? When we back at our old house and I didn't know anything about mixing drinks. There was one time where I bought like a bunch of mixers and a bunch of liquors for no reason. And I was like, Mike, what drink you want? Try and stump me. I got it all. And I definitely didn't have it all, but you were standing over at Jeff's Ninja Turtles arcade game. And yeah, speaking of arcade games, did you, we also had the Pac-Man sit down one. That's a classic bar thing.

When you see that, that's, that's a good bar. It's in my kitchen. Well, Mike, you were playing Ninja Turtles, and you go, yeah, you'll make me a drink. I'll have a tequila sunrise. And I made you one, but we didn't have any ice in the fridge. So I just filled it up a tall glass of like 16 ounces of oj and i think it gave you a real bad juice belly well i gotta say when i ordered that drink that

one time i was so terrified what was gonna happen i did i've never ordered something like that before my life yeah i remember all the tequila sunrise oh god what am i doing your voice definitely cracked. Yeah. Yeah, and I didn't- When you came over, I remember not- Trying not to look at you to see my sweat. So, folks, keep the cubes. In general, don't make your juicy drinks.

Your friends don't want that. Put the ice in there. Oh, yeah. If you got nice, polite friends like me, you won't say anything about it. But, you know, get the ice. Now, this recipe is a bit of a softball for us. I mean, we'll find some way to fuck it up. But no, no, we are mixologists now.

We we're going to knock this out of the park. All right. So we're looking at an ounce and a half tequila, three ounces orange juice, half an ounce of grenadine. And the way you do it is you pour tequila and orange juice directly into a highball glass filled with ice cubes. Add grenadine to create the chromatic sunrise effect. Do not stir.

You want that fade, don't you? Yeah. Don't stir it. I'm going to give a little stir just before the grenadine, mix up my tequila and my juice. Am I allowed to do that? Yes. Yeah, it's allowed. Just allow it this once, please.

I beg of you. We won't tell the IBA. And then you can garnish with a half orange slice or an orange zest, neither of which I have. I don't have that either. That seems like the thing that puts it on this IBA list is like, oh, it's not a trashy drink. It's kind of nice with the garnishing. You could just put a little wedge on top of anything and they'll like it. Yeah.

Well, I'm making mine to the letter of the law. All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. Goodbye, everybody. Goodbye. All right. Cheers.

Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Okay. That's good. You know, I like a good orange juice drink. I told you guys know that. What about a screwdriver?

Love it. Oh, yeah. Mimosa. I hate it. That's been one unexpected bonus of this podcast is that i have a bunch of juice around now and when i have breakfast i can be like wow i'm gonna have some grapefruit juice right and that we used so little of that grapefruit juice that now you just got to get through it all speaking of juice here i uh can you see mine here on the zoom it's all the cherry stuff sunk to the bottom.

I used it. I used a cherry juice, not a grenadine. That's a, that's a fancy Luxardo cherry juice kind of a thing. So it was heavier. Yeah. I don't know if I agree with this.

Do not stir. Cause I just had a red line at the bottom of my orange juice. You do have to kick it up a little bit. I've seen some of them saying to stir stir lightly until you get the effect yeah um well it's like a black and tan are you saying the the cherry juice was from those maraschino cherries i had yeah no those are gone i don't know where those are oh yeah you lost those they're lost i have no idea where they went uh so this is just some other cherry juice i got many different cherry juices over here at the house i did read something about a tri-state area

cherry burglar. That's weird because I can't believe that would happen. I didn't say that what I read was in the news or... I see. Well, let me tell you, my first reaction to this drink is

I can't decide if I should... It looks gorgeous and I don't know how if i should sacrifice the looks to mix it up more because if are you guys using straws no i am because i wanted to sip selectively i guess that is kind of another one of those cool customizable interactive experiences but my first sip was the straw was at the bottom of the cup and i just tasted roses grenadine and then i brought my straw up too high and I tasted OJ. And then I mixed it up a little bit and I got the perfect delicious mix. What kind of tequila did you guys use?

Cuervo. Oh, which is the original. Yeah. The OG. I had some Casamigos, but I saved it and I used Casadores because I think when you got a good tequila, you don't need to waste it. I had some Sousa Gold and I was very excited to find I had a little Hornitos left. I got one step up. I don't know that many tequila brands.

I kind of only know, you know, Patron. Sure. That's true. Hendrix, but that's a gin. Yeah. So that's disqualified. And if we're being really strict, I don't think we should count that. Okay, here's my huge question to you guys. Hit me.

OJ, baby. What type of OJ did you use? Minute Maid, the best, the OG, the king of the, oh, the king of the OJs. A single serving bottle of OJ that you bought at a bodega? Yeah. Yeah. I went out and bought one of those. Jeffy. I did a gas station bottle of Tropicana. Tropicana Pure Premium, not from Concentrate? Nope. This is from Concentrate, gas station, dog shit.

This is good. Guys, we all did the same. I thought I would be the oddball out by having cheap OJ, but I was standing there at the grocery store, and I said to myself, look, we grew up in the Tony Soprano age of Tropicana, Pure, Premium, the good stuff. But before the 90s or whatever, when people had OJ, it was Minute Maid, right?

And it was from Concentrate. So I said, I want to taste exactly what Mick, when he put those huge lips. When he was at the Trident and he put those giant famous lips on that straw, that's what I want to taste. So I got the cheapy stuff as well. And it's kind of nostalgic. I like bad orange juice. You know what we should have made it out of is the Minute Maid you get in the frozen cylinder.

Yeah. Do they still sell those? The brick. I think they do. That's funny. That would be perfect. You change it up and make it with some Five Alive. I remember Five Alive.

Oh, wait. Yeah. Five Alive was five different fruits, right? Oh, yeah. What was so alive about it? It made you alive? You were alive in order to have to mix it up. You could not be dead.

To purchase it, no corpses and zombies are picking these up. When you're ordering at a bar, in a standard bar in the 70s, I'm guessing this OJ, unless Sausalito, it's California, they got Orch orange groves around maybe they would have fresh squeeze but i my guess is this stuff comes out of the gun this is this is a box of oj from a concentrate you know that look of under the bar in the back room oh yeah cardboard and then the gun automatically mixes with water or soda on the way yeah

you think uh you think people are going around bars back then and saying just give me what mick mixes water or soda on the way. Yeah. You think, you think people were going around bars back then and saying, just give me what Mick drinks. Oh yeah. Give me what Keith and Mick, what you get. We know what they're doing on the tour. Give me that.

Hey, they were in 73 baby. Yeah. That's whatever. That's what the nation was saying. Give me what Nick drinks. 73 tequila for me. And all the,

the bartenders in those days had to be really up on the rolling stones to know exactly what they were drinking because they say you know what is he drinking these days brown sugar no that's a song he likes that on his oatmeal perhaps but that's not what we're doing here at the bar ah guys best drink so far yeah yeah because, because it's one you can make without too many screw-ups. And I'm tasting the tequila. It's not weak. No, it's a shot of tequila and only two shots of OJ, so that's a good ratio. This is our first tequila

on the pod. And we like tequila. And we feel like tequila wakes us up and makes us want to party. Keep us peppy for the pod. It keeps us going for a full tour yeah that's what our next uh sabi boys tour should be sort of sponsored by tequila i thought we would do the the cocaine and and tequila sunrise tour that might be nice yeah we don't really have the money for cocaine though we got to get a uh kind of an indiegogo

campaign going for that and funnel some of those funds to some of the better orange juices too the unsung hero this is grenadine what a great what a funny thing that became a standard that every bar has to have and that you make tons of drinks out of is this very specific fake pomegranate syrup well it's funny the stones love this drink so much but it was the beat Beatles who had that song. Grenadine, Grenadine, Grenadine, Grenadine. Should we tell them? Well, I like it.

I'm feeling my tequila's kind of kicking in. I'm starting to think, hey, this podcast ain't so bad. I know. That's what's nice about these drinks. The tequila really sneaks up on you, and all of a sudden you're, whoa, surprise drunk. Yeah, it really takes the edge off whatever podcast you're listening to. I really want to take my mic off the

stand and sort of walk around, how's everybody doing tonight? Hey, where's, things are getting going, you know? Oi, where's Keef? Yeah, where's Charlie Watts, our drummer? And where's Roy Orbison? We're fans.

We're fans of that man. Were there any stones in the traveling Wilburys? No. It was Tom Petty, Dylan, Roy Orbison, and George Harrison. And the ELO guy. Oh. Jeff Lynn, right? Jeff Lynn, yeah.

I saw Jeff Lynn at, it was like the ELO experience. Oh. Jeff Lynn, right? Jeff Lynn, yeah. I saw Jeff Lynn at, it was like the ELO experience or something over at the Hollywood Bowl a couple years ago. It was awesome. He played like all the hits and just like there was a huge like laser light show thing happening. One of those bands that

you're not aware of how many songs you know until you see them and you're like, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I noticed it. You know, ELO like music people love ELO. songs you know until you see them and you're like oh yeah yeah yeah you know elo like music people love elo if you know any engineers or producers that's their favorite band is that prog rock are we calling that prog rock i don't i would say progress is rock is more of your your yes and your genesis and even maybe your rush but yeah right they are definitely uh i thought they were sort of like diet beetles you know because of mr blue sky is so mccartney ish but they got a lot to offer they have a ton to offer it's it's lush production it's it's it's smart clever music

yeah and they like ufo imagery i like uf Telephone line is cool. Telephone line's great. Also, I listened to two disc greatest hits on a road trip one time, and I said, I know all these songs. But here's what I learned recently. I was watching a documentary about Fleetwood Mac, who you may know from the Ocean Spray TikTok video. Oh, yeah. Hey, speaking of Ocean Spray, is Cape Codder on our list?

We should do a Cape Codder sometime. I don't think it is, but let's do it. What's that? Cranberry juice and vodka? That's right. Vodka, cranberry. Sometimes it'll sit on top. I was watching this doc about Fleetwood Mac, and then the people, the guys were saying,

well, when Stevie did her solo album, she, of course, went and worked with all the L.A. guys, you know, and they were like Tom Petty, Bruce Hornsby. And they listed off all these rockers who were like to the public. And the range? Or like people, the front man of the range. A lot of guys who are, you know, maybe not as cool to the public, but I like thinking of LA in 1985 was just a lot of these kind of like bored guys drinking probably this drink. This feels like when you think of Jeff Lynn and you think of his sunglasses that are faded, they're light on the bottom, dark up top and his big leather jacket.

He's definitely drinking this drink. Oh yeah. Cause the drinks got to match the shades, baby. Everyone started doing that light jeans with like a t-shirt and coat look. You gotta. Like the Chevy Chase in the Call Me Al video. Yeah, that's a good video. Good video, good look.

Good night! Oh, somebody, who finished? Whoa! That was me. Tim, okay. Sucked it down. Tim crosses the finish line, the checkered flag is waving. I might have to get over to the hospital.

Yeah. This is going to be tough to just have one of these bad boys. Yeah, but you can't have that much juice in a night. I learned that one the hard way. I used to make my tiki drinks with so much pineapple juice that I would be sweaty all night. From the juice? From the juice.

Juice makes the T-man sweat. Okay. Okay. I'll believe it when I see it, but okay heard it all you heard it here first this was booze news everybody that was a special update yeah this just did yeah we had to break into the podcast we had some breaking and we had to cut in yeah well i'm not getting anything about that uh pepsi thing over here so i'll leave that alone good oh wow it's good top tier as always gets better as it gets meltier that's right you know how uh elvis presley has that song lemonade i'm like uh does he have that i think that eddie murphy had that song when he was making fun of

elvis you know what just go with'm, I'm over here going. I mean, I would never argue that you are over there going that. I just, the beginning of that, I don't know if I know about the, the first one. Hey,

I blame it on the, I blame it on the sunrise in this one, Joe. Blame it on the sunrise. Another good album title. Oh, that is good. Hey, let's talk about the song Tequila Sunrise by the Eagles. Are you guys fans or are you major haters?

I don't know shit about it. Take it away, Tim. Sing a bar for me. Just another tequila sunrise. Oh, yeah, of course. The Eagles, baby. I love them. You gotta love that shit.

I'm conflicted about the Eagles, baby. I love them. You gotta love that shit. I'm conflicted about the Eagles. I do love them and I like that song, but I think they're dumb. I have a friend who's kind of like a stonery type guy, wears his robe a lot, and he hates the fucking Eagles, man. That's not your friend, Jeff. That's not his friend. It's a movie character he's talking about. His name is Jeff.

This is more spin. Yeah. Mike, you gotta be fair and balanced with your reporting, man. That's true. That was Jeff Lebowski. Don't you think that the Eagles have good songs, but their brains are small? Yeah. I mean, they kind of admitted that they just were making records to make money, right?

Oh, they wanted the green stuff, huh? How dare they? Not us. We make money, right? Oh, they wanted the green stuff. How dare they? Not us. We make three records, haven't made a penny yet. Yeah, and we don't want any. Folks, take your money and shove it up your asses. Or subscribe to the Patreon. Oh, fuck.

Oh. Well, so what were you going to say about the song or the Eagles? Oh, I wanted to ask if the movie or the song painted in any way your perception of this drink. For me, I always knew that song and I had seen that movie, but they're not formative to me. So I wasn't like thinking about them today. No, maybe they did, because that's I do think of it as like a like I was saying a 70s thing so maybe that is what spurred it that i knew it from that song could be could be we'll never know i don't know shit about either so i'm gonna uh keep my old trap shut i think that we're gonna find as we with this podcast we going to kind of become like alcohol historians.

Alcoholics. We're going to eventually... Yes. We're already there. But we're going to learn all this stuff and we're going to be like little Malcolm Gladwells, basically, with the sociology. But I think we're going to find that the 80s... I think the 80s have a reputation of being the dark ages of cocktail culture. So that this is like the last gasp before you kind of putter out with your fuzzy navels and your sex on the beach, which I've never had and I'm looking forward to having.

Those are 80s, right? Or into 70s? I think that those are like late 70s at the earliest. It seemed like they were moving into a thing of like making drink names that sounded interesting. Like the ones you just mentioned there or something that's like, ooh, it kind of sounded fun when I'm ordering it.

Yeah, in my deep dive for coming up with the backstory for the old Tequila Sunrise, like the ones you just mentioned there or something that's like, Ooh, it kind of sounded fun when I'm ordering it. Yeah. In my deep dive for, for coming up with the backstory for the old tequila sunrise, I was surprised to see that the tequila sunrise and a lot of drinks of the eighties were considered like lowbrow or I don't know, is it because it was too much juice or because it was too colorful? Like I don't understand our, our cocktail nerds more about like the stinky PD,

like whiskeys and gins. That's the impression I get. Like people, if it kind of tastes good, I get Dickie Barrett, dude. Now that's music. Dickie,

Dickie Barrett, Ricky, Dickie Barrett. Uh, the, the impression I got to Dickie Barrett, Boston, uh,

was that if it tastes good, it's kind of considered like cheaper and not as refined. Yeah. If it tastes sugary. What's with the – I mean, people that think that you just have to drink whiskey straight. I mean, we do that. I'll do that. I can do that too.

I can have a tequila sunrise. In fact, a normal night, if I were hitting the town with my boys. Yeah. Bottle of Ciroc. I would only start with a drink like this. You know, I'm not going to drink that all night. And I would eventually just have a tequila on the rocks or tequila soda. And maybe someone's going nuts and we have tequila shots.

I'm on board for all that, but I don't need to say it's that or nothing. If you're one of these people who think you only got to drink whiskey straight, I'll just say you got no place in our listenership. Unsubscribe right now. Get the fuck out of here. March your ass over to come down. If you're one of these people who likes to start a log fire in their house, pour an old bottle of scotch, swirl it around, why don't you find the fucking door?

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with more Sloppy Boys. I kind of like that other one. After these messages, we'll be right back. And we're back. Guys, I'm looking at my palm tea glass, which I use as my Collins glass. That's a little life hack for you, by the way. Get yourself a palm tea glass.

It's perfect. Those are good. Those are good. It's perfect. It looks like a collins glass and no one would ever know maybe it is i haven't seen those in a long time do they still make those yeah i don't know mike you don't you don't need to get any more you got the glass look i got what's mine you guys gotta fend for yourselves you're assigned to figure that while mike is working on the pepsi story jay you gotta get to the bottom of the palm story all right i'll

report back hit that beat oh i gotta i gotta lead on that to the bottom of the palm story. I'll report back. Hit that beat. Oh, I got a lead on that, by the way, during the break. Oh, you did? Someone reached out? The answer is out there. Somebody tweeted at me. The answer's out there. Keep digging. I said, wow. God, I feel like a...

That reminds me of some files that I saw one time. Yes. Guys, what do you think? Final thoughts. This is an order again for me. This is a round tour. Come on. Oh, yeah.

Tequila Sunrise, the best in the biz. Two and three and then some. Yeah, right. Me too. I feel like if I'm, I feel this drink made me feel like I was a guy, like an older divorced guy in Marina Del Rey having a breakfast by myself and feeling good. That's the life.

You know what this drink, you can drink this, you can make a pitcher of this stuff. How about that? Yeah, I would. You can make a pitcher for sure. Oh, and then the whole pitcher does the thing. That's right. But then when you pour, you don't get any grenadine. Damn.

Mike, you didn't think it through. No, maybe it's half of it is just the orange juice and tequila in the pitcher. And then you pour it and your friend's like, oh, thanks. They walk away. No, no, come here. Forgot the sunrise. Dude, you're the best. You're the best bartender.

Or. I love you. You make it all. You got the pitcher. Then you get yourself as one of those honey, I shrunk the kids guns. Shrink yourself down. Hop into that pitcher that picture swim around with your mouth open yeah i gotta confess there was a hot tip that i didn't mention earlier in the show oh boy i saw online that if you want to make a good fade what you should do is guide the grenadine down the side of the glass with a spoon. Like a black and tan. Like a black and tan.

Black and tan, Mike. I poured my cherry juice right in the middle. I was holding out on you guys and I was holding out on the listeners. This is a re-record. I think this is a delete. Full teardown. Drag to trash. Alright, final thoughts.

This is a keeper, baby. Best of the bunch so far. I know we're only... This goes on the list. We're only so many episodes in, but tough to beat. We likey. Well, that does it for the old Tequila Sunrise. Tim, I hear you got a little quizzy for us.

That's right. Who's ready to play a little bit of a game? I don't play games, Tim. I'm very serious about this type of thing. I'm a very serious podcastist. Okay, well, folks, thanks for listening. Let's fade out. All right, all right, all right.

You got me. I was acting. I'm working on a new character. Serious guy. I loved it. Thanks. You could have been in that movie as Serious Man. Ah, I know.

I saw that movie. I was like, oh, I wish I could be in that, but they shot it already. Yeah, well, reshoots sometimes I have to. Okay, here's the game. This is a bit of a challenge. Now, I was inspired by this drink. I was telling you guys, describing a bar that's sort of like an upholstered bar.

It's got kind of red lighting. Maybe it's got a Schlitz light over the pool table. And I was thinking about those type of tequila sunrise is not exactly what you would always order at that bar, but I was thinking that's maybe the fanciest thing to do at those bars. And then I started thinking about, and we brought this up as well, the gun, the soda gun. Every bartender is like a Wild West gunslinger and they rely on that. Yeah.

And they protect the villagers, the patrons from dehydration exactly now i don't want to get in a whole film semiotics thing where i go on about the white hat the black hat and the meaning behind all of it but but what i did want to say is i was clicking around today because i love the internet i'm you know memes and all that anyway i was looking at there's this company that makes the the gun the famous at, there's this company that makes the gun, the famous gun. That's the standard one that's everywhere. It's called a wonder bar soda gun. And I read the little buttons on it and I devise a little challenge for my two friendies where I'm going to read to you the letter. Cause it's not full words these days,

they got full words, but back then it was shorthand. I'm going to read you the letter because it's not full words. These days they got full words, but back then it was shorthand. I'm going to read you the letter and then you each give me your guess of what you think, what drink you think is represented. If I'm remembering correctly, these guns have seven buttons on them?

These have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, but they're not all the same. So I may have been looking at this 110, but no, this is kind of the standard one from Wikipedia. And we'll get into some weird territory here where you're going to get mad at me. I'll go, that was what I found. And when did this come out? I didn't want that kind of research.

So I'm like, it's not going to be a Bon Viv button base. Exactly. And I mean like, it's not going to be a Bon Viv button base. Exactly. And I mean, think about it. If you're at a bar, you order a Bon Viv, they go to Cooler, they grab that. But there's only a certain number of things. Yeah. Now, there's a lot of bartenders listening and thinking these guys don't know their shit. And you're right.

And then you're going to, these buttons may not be what you have, but this is the standard according to wikipedia.org. This is like Family Feud where it's just like, hey, this is a list and we're guessing what's on the list. It doesn't need to be. It certainly says. There's a couple where it goes either way and it's actually kind of interesting. So are you ready? I love it.

Yeah. Button number one is entitled G. Mike. Yes, Mike. Ginger Ale. He is on the board with ginger ale. Good drink for when you're feeling sick and you don't want to keep the orange juice down. Go ahead, Tim. How'd you feel about that, Jay? Were you just slow on the draw, but you knew it or did you had it not come to you yet? do a thing where we just like say one and you're like yes it's on the board i didn't know is we're going to be prompted by a letter yeah you're gonna be prompted by a letter and then you buzz in you know maybe i'm not the best quiz master no it's all right here we go round two the letter is

s jeffy shelter jeffy oh sprite michael shelter my i hate sprite you know this about me Sprite. Michael? Seltzer. God damn it, what are you doing? Mike, I hate Sprite. You know this about me. Why are you even talking about it? And how can you hate Sprite? You're obsessed with it, okay? It's tormenting you. You got to move on from it. Sprite's good.

The S is for soda, you know, because bartenders always just call it soda. Yeah, you don't even have to explain it, of course. Oh, I said Seltzer. Button number three is entitled W. Jeffy, water. Yes. Mike, how do you feel about that?

The root of all life. 60% of your body in the earth. I thought it was 80%. Not my body. I thought water was its own big button that said water on it. And on later models of the Wonder Bar gun, it eventually is there. That's why i asked what date this one was made round number four uh the letter is c cola he's got it michael cola now

there was a caveat sometimes cranberry but more often cola cool you guys are tied 2-2. This feels kind of like... No, he's got three. I got one. What? I got ginger ale, seltzer, and cola. Okay. I just got water. And Jeffy got the water. I got water.

Lossifus says it's known to some. The score is 3-1. Dutton leading. Anford leading. I think you probably shouldn't have that second tequila. I think the oj is talking yeah the letter is i like this where you guys just blurt out the answer don't say your name yeah yeah yeah the button is l

l for lemonade what lemonade nope what it's open keep guessing until you get it and you're on her no you're on the right track with licorice no lime put them both together lemon lime is the category and then what's right yes sprite seven up and sierra mist are all usually labeled L for Lemon Lime. You know what? I'm happy I didn't get that one. Next question. Yeah, because you don't like that flavor, so you were abstaining. Next question is Q. Oh, what would be in a Q?

Hmm. Quarters? Would you like a little hint? No, not yet. Is there something called quince uh there is something but it's not in in bar mix okay okay that's what i was asking about i was just asking about if there was something called if you eliminate every other q word you'll get to it q and i'll give you their hint which is the Q is not the name of the beverage, rather a notable ingredient. Quaradine? Oh, boy.

You're almost there. You just said it wrong. Quinine? Quinine, Michael. And what are we talking about? What is the beverage? I don't know. Quabsoda?

Tonic water. Tonic water. Dutton, you get the point. Oh, damn it. tonic water tonic water dutch and you get the point oh damn it tonic water with quinine quinine was like an old timey thing that they thought healed you from things and i don't know if it did these days q is a little has a little different meaning but q anon right but uh you know when you buy a a can ofic water, it says with quinine on it. So they used that as the letter. Next letter. We're in the homestretch here.

The letter is O. Orange juice. Yes, he has got it. Damn. OJ coming through that gun. Lots of places don't like to do that. A little too pulpy for them. Okay.

I should get one of these guns. I should get one of these guns. I know it so well. Yeah, you're saying if I get one of these guns, I get all these drinks in one? Well, you got to keep them stocked. I'd like one of these drinks, one of these guns sitting off my cell phone here. The next one is P. P. Diddy.

Dr. Pepper. That's ridiculous. Nobody drinks Dr. Pepper with anything. No, that's a drink. Come on, Jeff. That's ridiculous. Nobody drinks Dr. Pepper with anything. No, that's a drink. Come on, Jeff. That's a drink. P is for, hmm, what type of pepper, but that's not really for a drink.

That's more for a side dish. You want a hint? Yes, I do. This one was weird to me. It's not orange juice, but it's another juice apple what type of apple granny smith no um uh pineapple is pineapple oh i said it but mike you're gonna avoid because you repeated it i'm on the board uh that was weird because it says also sometimes pepsi but we usually the c is your coke yes uh but some

if you do cranberry you may then use pepsi even if it's coke you use the p home stretch here um uh this one is quite tricky and the letter is the last one second to last one the letter is t i was gonna say tonic but we've done tonic we've done tonic. We've done tonic. That was quinine. Shut. Tea? And I'll give you hints. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet. Give the hints. A gentle hint is this is dated. This is tied

to a... Tab. Tab. Yes! He's got it! No. Even oftentimes at bars, when it's Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi, they will still use the T for tab because that's when the gun first came out. Hey, rest in peace, tab. Yeah, tab guys. Hit character. Look it up. And the final question is a very rare one, not at every bar, SS.

Simple syrup. Good guess, but no. Seagram syrup. Good guess, but no. Seagram 7. Great guess, but no. Now remember, S has already been used for soda. So this SS is not necessarily a double S. It's just that it's the other S drink. Seltzer?

Nope, we've done soda. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you like a hint yeah the other these other ones have been uh you know soft drinks where you could drink a whole glass of them this one is specifically for making cocktails it's a type of mix goes well with whiskey i think no this is a classic mix you might see it with like a mr and mrs t's bottle of blank mix and it begins with an s begins with an s it's yellow sour yes sour mix mike you have just won the soda gun button challenge how do you feel it if i won one of those soda guns can you uh recap g ginger ale s soda w water c cola sometimes cranberry l all of your lemon limes you know know, Sierra Mist Sprite 7-Up. Q is tonic, quinine.

O is OJ. P is pineapple, sometimes Pepsi. T is tab, meaning all diet sodas. And SS is sour mix. And then I've also saw some guns do, in addition to tab, they added a D button for diet cola. I didn't include that because I wanted to stick with the original gun. And that was the game. Nice. Good quiz. Good quiz. Good game.

Thank you. Well, guys, that does it for the game. I got a little mail for you. Let's get into it. Lucas writes, Hey guys, I'm not surprised to see your podcast is booze related. When I saw you at Subterranean, you took the stage with several beers in hand, and I think Tim had a cocktail question mark.

I was wondering what your go-to onstage drinks are and does the venue provide those or what? Keep it sloppy. Lucas. That's a great question. Uh, the venues providing those things. That's the writer.

That's how come when, uh, when we leave a club, you always see the owner, uh, locking up, uh, and,

uh, walking straight to the poorhouse? Well, they provide them in the sense that they provide them behind the bar and we have to buy them. Yeah, the scale of venues we play generally don't, we don't have like a rider. Although we did one time play the Bell House in Brooklyn with Don't Stop. And I remember when the show was over, we were all packing up and Amin and Tony were like, hey, grab those bottles. And I was like, are we allowed? And they informed me that the bottles they put in the back room at big venues like that, they come out of your cut of the door. Right. They asked us if we had any specific things. I think we were like chips and

some fruit, maybe. Yeah. I think we went all out a little too much we had a bottle of makers we were we probably didn't make any money that night i think this standard for like little clubs we played uh two you get two drink tickets that's similar to like a comedy club a comedian we get two drink tickets and then the bigger the venue then yeah your rider what you want in your green room is coming out of your paycheck. Once we learned that lesson, when we played subterranean in Chicago, guys, do you remember we had just learned this lesson the hard way. So we told them, we'll take a case of the cheapest beer you have. So I don't remember if I had a cocktail that night, that's shocking because usually I just

drink whatever's free. Yeah, I do a beer on, so I do one beer on stage to keep me sort of level. Yeah. It's funny. Beer does kind of function as like a, a hydrator. It shouldn't. It shouldn't.

No, no, no. But you know, you're singing and stuff. It'll, it'll lube up the old vocal cords. If you just dump a little paps on them,

right. It'll loosen right up. And you can't be doing liquor on stage. I think in LA, uh, at, um, the satellite in Los Angeles, I've had some tequilas on stage and it's not really a good idea.

You know, you got to find the frets. You got to hold on to your pick. You can't be getting drunk up there. Yeah, a real rock and roller. He wants to really be focused on stage and not be loose and goosin'. Like Mick Jagger, he was thinking of each note. He was picturing the staff and he was picturing the time signature.

Yeah. The tequila sunrises, they were drinking after the show. One and then straight to bed. If you've got a question for the boys, email us at thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. Do it.

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