The Sloppy Boys - 49. Picklebacks with Fran Gillespie

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

The guys welcome their friend Fran to the pod, and together they chase whiskey shots with pickle brine. PICKLEBACK RECIPE1.5oz/45ml Whiskey1.5oz/45ml Pickle BrineAdd whiskey and pickle brine into separate shot classes. Take the whiskey as a shot, then the pickle brine as a chaser. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys. See, now you got me nervous, right? Oh boy. Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford. Oh, I'm nervous now. And Tim Kalpakis. What is up? Totally cool.

And the official second guest of the show ever, Fran Gillespie. How you doing? Whoa! Princess. What? She's cool after all. I had to. Yeah, okay. You did have to speak. I had to. Yeah, okay.

You did have to speak. You had to speak. In that case. Wait, let's give Fran some credits. You know, she's a comedy extraordinaire. SNL. It's for certain people. Not everybody's cup of tea.

Look, I love it. I think Fran's hilarious hilarious but not everyone oh yeah fran's a hit with slop heads slop heads love wow well i gotta say i was just saying i was just remarking about how nervous i am because this podcast might be after the daily of course the podcast i listen to the most it's sloppy boys and michael barbaro i can see your taste the through line yes yes the venn diagram culture barbaro should really lean into that i'm michael barbaro see you tomorrow but he just says it like it's his name doesn't rhyme with unfortunately he very much leans into it,

and he's kind of become a cult of personality, I think. Babaro, tomorrow, yeah. I don't listen as much. There was an entire episode he did about how someone sent in a voice memo that was like, I'm Michael, tomorrow, see you, Babaro. That's so weird to do a whole episode about that, because that's not what I go to that show for.

No, it was also like last week when all the Afghanistan stuff was going on. So I think it was not a very well-timed episode. I listen to that show to make sure my skip button is working. Mike. Michael. I don't listen to that shit. Stop.

No, I do sometimes. I do every one so often. It keeps you abreast. Before we get deeper into the show, does anybody have COVID or are we okay this episode? I have, I'm not contagious. I think I probably have a few COVIDs kind of clinking and clanking around in the lungs.

I was looking for nose across the board. No, I think I still... COVID? Come on. If I took a test, I would be positive. You too, Jeff, probably, right? Yeah, I mean, I took a test this afternoon and I was positive. Yeah, that means nothing. What are you talking about? Oh my god,

I kept getting false positives over and over again. False positives. I'm negative, but in my life have definitely had many a false positive. But I was going to say about your Sunset Strip episode, I like hearing the exact point that Tim got COVID. You can actually hear a droplet landing in his mouth. I think it was when I was on the mechanical bull,

you could hear a little splash. It was, when you were on the bull, you kind of hear like, wazoo! And that is a droplet landing in your nose. That is so humiliating that the weekend that I had leading up to having it, and then we had to cancel a Sloppy Boys concert and stuff, the image of myself on a mechanical bull

is such an egregious, the dumbest. I mean, because I was riding it being like, well, I have a mask on. Right. Yeah. It's for a podcast. It's also just funny to be like, God, how could this have happened? I'm vaccinated. I don't do anything. And then it's like you put out a podcast. It's like inside seven different bars in arguably the most touristy area in Los Angeles.

Yeah, the dumbest part of LA. Okay, guys. We're in a classic bar. No windows. Absolutely back to the gills. This is where it's at, you guys. We're pulling our masks down to talk to people. This is what the Sunset Strip is all about. I'm starting to think that I'm not the brainiac I had hoped.

I'm still holding out hope. Yeah, maybe I'll end up being a brainiac. I'm holding out hope. Oh, brother. Oh, God. You guys sent me that thing that said I had to be vaccinated to go on your podcast. You got that good. We don't want the droplets to come through. But we said you had to be vaccinated to go on your podcast. You got that good. We don't want the droplets to come through,

but we said you had to be Johnson and Johnson. Yes, I had to be Johnson and Johnson. So of course I got the third shot. I think it's not good. Two Madernas, one Johnson and Johnson. Yeah,

I did one of one of each, uh, just to spread it out. Spread it out. I spread the spread the, what am I trying to say here? Spread it out. Spread the risk. Just to spread it out. I spread the... Spread the... What am I trying to say here? Spread the vaccine, not the virus.

Okay, let's move on. Booze News, hit it. Huh. We gotta find a headline, that's our first clue. We put it in our notebook, and now we do, we do. It's Booze News, Booze our first clue. We put it in our notebook, and now we do we do. It's Booze News, Booze News. Okay. We gotta talk to Pepsi,

that's our second clue. We put it in our notebook, and now we do we do. It's Booze News, Booze News. We gotta go to Walmart and get that fireball and put it in our notebook, and you know what to do. It's Booze News, Booze News. He thinks we have a notebook?

It's Blue's Clues, Jeff. Drink, drink. It's when we use our minds and take a sip at a time. We can drink anything that we want to drink. Familiar to anybody? Yes. Beautiful. That's the Blue's Clues anybody? Yes Beautiful Michael That's the blues clues theme

Yes And that was sent to us by Emmett Rogers But then when I was poking around I also found this one by Tom Herrick Hit it Ooh Well when we find a topic About the drinks for you

We put it on our podcast And now what do we do? Crazy. Lose, lose, lose, lose, lose. Well, we sit down in our drinking chair and drink. Drink. Drink. Wow.

When we lose our minds on beer, liquor, and the wines, we can lose anything. That we want on news. It's booze news, you little blue turds. Man, the parallel thinking, Tim. Very good. This is like when Armageddon and Deep Impact came out right on the heels of each other. Or those two Truman Capote movies. Yes, exactly.

In Cold Blood and then, oh no, Capote and then, oh my God, Capote was great. And then there was one that starred... I think it was called Capote's Kind of Grody. Oh. That was the other one, yeah. It reminds me also of when those like lord of the rings movies came out like one and then the year after they had another one yeah you know oh also also friends with benefits and fuck buddies remember when those two movies came out the same year yes yeah

mila kunis and uh justin timberlake and ashton kutcher and Natalie Portman. I liked Portman and Kutcher were better than the other one I think. That was interesting. Steve Jobs, yep. There are three I think for Steve Jobs. Well, if you include the Funny or Die one. Right. I thought that was the first one you were talking about. I know. I don't know the Steve Jobs

ones. No, there's I, Steve and there's the there was the Kutcher one. The Kutcher and the Fassbender. So Kutcher's in like every movie that they're making doubles of. He's just kind of doing the thing where he hears about a movie being made and he's like, I want to do that one too. Well, we're doing that already.

He's just always sort of. Fine, I'll do The Ranch again. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. It was the most popular show on Netflix after all. Oh, schooled my ass. I'm not going to school you. My parents watched the ranch and they were like, we didn't like it.

My parents fucking bought the ranch. Why'd you watch the whole fucking thing? My parents like ranch dressing. We're from the Midwest. Who cares? Oh, shit. My mom might be listening to this. Mom, you ranch dressing. We're from the Midwest. Who cares? Oh, shit. My mom might be listening to this. Mom, you didn't buy the ranch.

Love you. Why is that bad for her to hear? Buy the ranch means that somebody dies. Really? No, bought the farm. Mom, I apologize for nothing. Mike, is this one of those cases where the saying one of those cases where like the saying bought the ranch and, uh, I said bought the ranch, but, uh, bought the farm,

I guess is the one I've heard. I think bought the ranch means, so bought the farm means you die. Bought the ranch means you live a full happy life with many loved ones. Again, two similar, two similar properties. Those two phrases. I think one of them's not a phrase i think i mentioned before that one time when i was a kid i said oh that sucks that sucked and my dad uh was like tim don't say sucks that's like if you said bit the big one. I have a cousin whose name is Dylan. And when I was like eight or nine, a nickname I would call him was Dildo.

I had no idea what it meant, but I would just be like, Dildo! No idea. Absolutely no concept. I really was just screaming Dildo. People used to say that to me when I was a kid, too. Bob Dylan. Yeah. Okay, he's gone.

He's gone. He just popped in. Yeah. He might be buying the land. Okay, can I get to the fucking news? Oh, yeah, shit. Thank you. Fran, you know that you've heard the show.

You know we talk too much about seltzer, probably. Oh my gosh, I'm drinking one right now. The White Claw of it all. White Claw, is that a mango? Mango, not a great flavor. It's not a great flavor. It kind of tastes like there's a chemical in it, but I wanted to loosen up.

I wonder how a chemical got in there. I think that your palate is correct. There's definitely a chemical in it. Loosen up before the shots? Yeah, I wanted to get drunk before I took shots. I fear this episode, but go ahead. Go ahead. I fear myself. Fran, foreshadowing here, but drinks aside, you're a big pickle fan.

You like to eat pickles. Yeah, one of my favorite foods. I would say pickles and pretzels are my two favorite foods. Oh, you like the salt. Oh, yeah, they're both good favorite foods. I would say pickles and pretzels are my two favorite foods. Oh, you like the salt. Oh, yeah. They're both good bar foods. Now, what if I told you that there was a hard pickle seltzer? Yes.

I have to say, I do think I've heard. I do think I am not surprised, but go on. Brumate and Cook and Marker did a collab. I am not surprised, but go on. Brumate and Cook & Marker did a collab. They did an April Fool's joke where they just posted about having a pickle seltzer, and it became kind of an internet-y thing, and then they were like, let's actually do it. So now you can buy a pickle-flavored hard seltzer, 100 calories, 5% alcohol.

And I'm wondering, is this intriguing? Is it just a stunt? Because I feel like I would, you know, if I had to vote Yanny or Nanny on this one, I think I'm a Yanny and I would want to taste it. Because I do like savory. You definitely would taste it. But you got to ask the question, are they actually using brine? Or is it some chemical that's made to taste like brine? Simulate, yeah.

Right. Simulate, thank you. They're not saying. I'm looking in this article and they're shying away. No, they can't. They must be forthcoming about the brine. Especially when it comes to brine. Yeah, I think that it's probably artificial, right? I think pickled brine. Yeah. I think that it's for,

then it's probably artificial, right? I think pickle brine is weird. You would think it's so much easier to make brine, isn't it? Brine is handy. It's well, everyone,

everyone thinks that brine is vinegar, but really it's like, it's like water that had garlic ferment in it. Like Dylan. Definitely fermented. But I will say something about pickles and pickle juice is you actually, who cares, but you actually burn calories eating a pickle because they are so low calorie

that you burn, they're like five calories and you burn calories by eating a pickle because it takes more effort and energy to eat a pickle than our calories in a pickle. Especially if you do a super chew, you know, you're like, yeah, if you do a super chew, that will definitely kind of get the calories up. And I'm not saying that because I am like a calorie counter. I really don't have the patience for that, but it definitely is something about pickles and pickle brine where I like never feel guilty about having multiple pickles in one sitting because it's not like, and to me it's a treat.

It's almost a dessert. Do you ever get, do you ever feel too salty after you ever wake up in the middle of the night going? Yes, definitely. I, I am more of a salty than sweet. I actually don't really like sweets but i love anything salty and i will say one time i graduated from college and ben rogers gave me like a huge tub of pickles i maybe i've told you this before nice but it was after college so it was i obviously had absolutely no money and so instead of buying food i was eating pickles and there's

maybe like 200 pickles in this jar it was from a fancy pickle place on the lower east side i forget what it was but um i could think i could remember it russ and daughters second no it was an actual pickle pickle maker but so i ate so many pickles that i like brined my insides and my poop was like white and looked like raisins like bird shit it was so crazy I was like shitting out ghosts have you ever seen like

mold on dog poop I was I couldn't believe because I actually didn't feel sick. I just kept eating pickles because I had them. I love pickles and I didn't really have a lot of money for food.

And so I was just eating like truly maybe 10, 11, 12 pickles a day. And then it just turned my insides and what I was shitting out was... It was like parts of my stomach lining. It's funny, when we have guests on this show, they talk about their shit. I think Gaber has gotten into some shit talk.

And the hosts are not allowed, I don't think. Yes, we are not allowed to talk about it. No, it's not really what hosts do. Hosts kind of have to be proper while the guests can kind of discuss. We can't talk about anything below the waist. No. I will, sorry.

My biggest pickle blunder is probably just getting the, like the Disneyland pickle that's like individually, a little bag of juice with a pickle and it's in a big barrel. I got one one time and it was warm and it was the summer and it made me sad. Geez. Fran, you gave me a pickle and it's in a big barrel uh i got one one time and it was warm and it was summer and it made me sad jesus friend you gave me a pickle like that for my birthday once you

were i think coming from it's called a pickle in a pouch and they're like a dollar at 7-eleven and they're like three dollars at disney but it is like a cheap snack to eat at disney especially because disney has like almost uh entirely uh meat options it's hard to find a veggie option at uh at disney but i'm sure i did give you a pickle in a pouch at one point but that's not an insult you know what i like about the pickle in a pouch is they give you a full size uncut pickle. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

What's your favorite form of pickle, Fran? Dill spear. Dill spear. Oh. You go like the sliced spear. I like a dill spear because a full whole pickle, I'm finding that I'm like, the way I'm kind of chewing, like gnawing at it, it's like, and I don't know that I could eat a full one of those in one sitting, but I can have two spears and like really not. Like Tim dropped off the pickles this morning at like 11 a.m. and I definitely popped out and had two and then had like four more throughout the day.

I like that they did the thing where there's like some full size spears and then they throw a little like half spears on top like to just top it off yeah it's true they're they're really making you good use of the space but the half spears made me feel like there was too many fingers on them oh yeah i also got my fingers in there a little bit right before i i noticed that the jar was uh honestly really easy for me to open because i'm strong there was no pop. My favorite pickles are, have you guys had Bubbies? They're really small and they're- Cornichons? You bite into them, they're kind of like, they're rotted out on the inside. They're like these kind of Polish pickles.

They've been pickled for so long that they're hollow. Like how long? Like a week? Like how long does it take to pickle something? 15 minutes. No, a long ass time. Yeah, like years, I think. No.

To pickle something? A cucumber to a pickle is probably like months. Yeah, I buy that. I thought people pickle things like in jars at their home all the time. No, in their closet for months. Like kimchi, it takes like months to make. Damn. Yeah, because it has to ferment. It has to go back. I don't it takes like months to make. Damn. Yeah.

Cause that's the ferment. It has to go back. I don't know jack shit about pickles, I guess. I guess you're not the brainiac we hoped. What's the difference between that pickle and a cornichon? Do you know what I'm talking about? I love a cornichon.

Cornichons are sweet, but what's the difference between a cornichon and a, not the cornichons I'm talking about. Dill. Cornichons are'm talking about. Dill. Cornishons are sweet. Really? Yeah. Little Cornishons are like...

Why are they so tangy? Oh, I might be thinking of a Gherkin. Oh, I don't know. Cornishon, Gherkin? We have a lot to learn. Oh, see, I think Cornishon and Gherkin are the same thing. You know what I like? Gherkin, you're Gherkin.

Fancy Cornishon. Cornishon Your hornishon Yes Thank you Yes Perfect That's it

That's it Mike you were saying Something about a fancy Yes I was A fancy Cornishon thing Where it's like A little elevator

You pull the You pull on like The plastic piece And it brings the bottom Like a french press Yeah but you bring it up And it rises all the. And it rises the spears.

Oh, I don't know what that is. And then you just pick them out. It's very, it's very fancy. You're paying for the jar on that one. Oh, geez. Anybody do a sweet or we all dill here? I'm a dill. I'll do them all.

I mean, I like a bread and butter pickle on the side for fun, but I like a garlic-y pickle. I only like it when it's on a burger, a bread and butter pickle. I find it's a little off-putting that there is something sweet there, like sugary. What do you think, Dutz? Hey, I'll say it. I also bought some famous Dave's Spicy Signature Pickles for today. And I guess I've never really had one. I was disappointed to find out that they are like sweet hot. Like it seems like they're a sweet pickle with some.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I don't think I'll be using them for today. But in the genre of sweet pickles, those are good because they're more savory than like your straight bread and butter pickle i've been there i think i was in saint paul one time and i went to famous dave's and had ribs and it was good actually tim dropped off spicy pickles today damn i did and but i like i do like a spicy pickle brian i don't mind it at all especially now when i'm like so petrified of covet i love drinking something and being like that tastes spicy to me like i like having that sensation like that was spicy i totally tasted

wait tim your your taste is back right it was back my taste is back i i would say my smell isn't 100 but like it's worth eating normal food again. Do you feel like it's only a matter of time for you, Hanford? No, I'm dodging it. The two other hosts? He's been exposed a lot. I'm kind of scooting through. I think you're very resistant, Mike. Do you feel left out?

Also, I'm a big liar. When I get my test results, I'm like, yep, negative. I'm fine. Hey, hey, hey. Are we done with booze news wrap it up no I've got booze news do you oh yes okay go for it I've started watching the Sopranos wow that's right I just finished the third episode and uh I did not think we're gonna be talking about ducks so much. A lot of ducks

there. I'm sorry. Sorry, we should have given you a heads up. No, it's not your fault. You didn't know how I would react to it, but I hated it.

Big theme in the first season. I could barely get through the first two episodes. It's so fucking boring. I think the acting is awful. Mike, let me blow your hair back. The ducks

are a Salinger reference. Catcher in the rye. The ducks are a Salinger reference. Catch her in the rye. The ducks live in the pond. God damn it. Now how do you feel? I hate that writer. I also think you got to stick to it because it's like, do you guys remember the first season of Sex and the City

where people did two camera confessionals? Yes. I just watched it recently. It's awful. It's first season and people do two camera like, I'm 32. Do I think I'll ever get married? You tell me. And then it's like

two camera. When I'm in bed, I want to have sex. They're like making it like a reality show thing? Yeah. I was just joking. I really love the show. I think it's great. Thank you. I think it's funny though that in the in the pilot tony's accent is like tony's uh funny voice isn't there yet like he's not doing like it's a little

it's a little lighter and then he gets as he digs i think now in the third episode he's kind of more like in his nose and breathing a lot because he also gandalfini put on probably like 80 pounds during the run of that show. So he gets that more. Jowly. Yeah. Yeah. He's like a little thin guy. And we looked it up. He was only 36 when he shot that pilot.

Right, right, right. Pounds? It's so crazy. It's funny. The first, the very first scene, if you guys remember, you can just hear his voice and he's kind of talking. And then all of a sudden the camera like goes over him. He's like, Carmela, can you go get my prescription and it's like oh it's the very first thing he says

in the whole series that's what it was that's so weird first scene i see i i thought it was in the theme song too right right got my prescription yes got my shelf prescriptions, yes. That's why it's in our head. Why is he in the car? He's driving the car singing to the camera. Yes, and also the first line is woke up prescriptions. I don't get that. I don't get it at all. It works syllabically.

Yes. That's good that you're watching it. I watched all of Sopranos in like this January and became so obsessed that it was like four or five hours a day had you seen it before i had seen um the fourth season yeah honestly i had only seen the entire second to last season it's like the people i know have seen it's like when you watch it you watch whatever season and then i've seen the second to last and last i know the ending and everything i didn't have hbo at the time that it was airing and so i i can kind of mark which episode which

like uh see uh seasons of the wire and sopranos I watched because it was when I had like access to HBO. Right. It's, it's an interesting show for me. Cause you guys are saying like, Oh, it's a great, uh,

mob show. It's a great mafia show. And it's like, yeah, kind of, I see it more. Honestly, I see it more as just like a show about a very human condition.

Somebody trying to find struggle with power for sure yeah somebody who's working with their family their mob family just balance it's really it's a lot of it

is about balance in the show that's so awesome I guess there's some mob stuff in it but for me it's a show about balance for me

it's about the bottoming am I right boys yeah I've only seen those scenes I just do a compilation of bottoming scenes can i hear a hell yeah boys hell yeah not the back room no the front room i find those scenes the front room and let's just say i ain't focusing on the bar

no see i'm focusing on the bar oh oh what's that is that a bottle of galliano um uh speaking of uh watching sopranos in different ways one time in college i had watched the new episode without my college roommate and then when he came back he was like hey did you watch sopranos yet and i was like yeah i watched it and he goes any gunplay oh i know who that was gunplay gunplay that's what he was tuning in for was the gunplay i think i know who that is god wait that's your college your college roommate that was my college roommate well oh my gosh that's interesting this was the same guy who told me that in the army you're taught that if you um

if someone's messing with you like fighting you with fighting, you're in hand-to-hand combat, you take your knife and stab them in the taint, and it will suck the knife up into their body and cut up their organs. Yeah, that's true. So that's who we're dealing with here. That's cool science. Any knife play? That is definitely science.

Yeah, and you can't question it because it's army stuff so you don't know you don't know did he have any affiliation with the army or just a fascination just kind of into it i don't know about he had confidence in that story well is that it for booze news wrap it up i like that one. That really feels wrapped up. We're wrapped up. It compacted the trash that was Booze News.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Bane, let's get into the drink of the day, which is the pickleback shot you've had. I've had. We've all had.

Yes, we've had. Introduced by our very guest, Timmy. Yes. Really? Timmy? I looked up the history of the drink, but first I think, Fran, I had maybe had this once at Bird's,, and then I met you and I've, and I've had a few times with you,

but you you're, this is a Fran Gillespie classic where, when, how did it come to be that you love pickleback shots? Okay. Well, very much have a taste for the alcohol in every single way. And I like,

I feel like I got, do you guys subscribe to the idea that the first time you got fucked up on whatever you got fucked up on, you can't really drink that anymore? Do you guys feel that way? I don't think so. You got so fucked up that the first time

that you got sick or whatever, now you can't really do it anymore? I have that with some foods, but not- Temporarily, but no, nothing has stood the test of time. I can drink everything now. Wow, interesting. But I know what you mean, Fran, with having a negative association with something

and you can't go near it. What's that called? It's taste aversion, it's called, taste aversion. Oh, taste aversion. Okay, wow, I never knew that label. But I definitely, when i was like first drinking in like you know my teenage years i drank beer all the time and got sick all the time and would do like full-blown like edward 40 hands and like waterfalls and like every single quarters

every game under the sun and just got so fucked up on beer for so many teenage years that then i all of a sudden was like i can't drink beer anymore i just can't do it i can't drink nasty beer it just is so disgusting to me and so i turned to hard liquor as one would and um i think like whiskey definitely tasted the best to me but i knew that just like whiskey shot after whiskey shot was also not great and so i wanted to like then i became familiar with the back world okay which would be like a Coke back or a water back or whatever. That's none of that. That's all what they're called.

But you like have a shot and then have something right after it. And then I loved pickles. I was at a bar with my brother, actually near where Hanford lives now. It was like maybe like a cool 2008. And we got pickle juice picklebacks and i drank the jameson drank the pickle juice absolutely felt like i had never drank the jameson and i was like this is the most fucking delicious thing i've ever had in my life it's also cheap it's all you're just paying for a shot it's also like you also can order them anywhere where places have food because they have pickle brine which is disgusting i know but it was something i learned

early on where even if it's not on the menu you can be like but i see you have pickle juice i did my research i looked at the menu okay i have proof have proof. If you don't want to do the juice, I will wring the pickle myself. But it also, I think I was really drawn to it because I'm a very social drinker and shots, doing shots is a very social thing as opposed to like people getting a martini on their own, a paper plane on their own, whatever you want to get on your own,

Negroni on your own. A shot is a very communal thing and it's like basically the reason i like drinking is like being with people taking a shot kind of like people getting loose whatever having fun and then i just was like having picklebacks people get excited about them because they're like what are you talking about inevitably there's always someone that's like we're drinking pickle juice of course but those are the people you want to convert because like no of course that's me every time we do what they're weird and people like them more often than you'd think yeah totally yeah people feel like bartenders like even when

it's not on the menu and you ask for it i have never had them like roll their eyes that they have to go find the pickle juice i think they're kind of excited to do it for you yes and also a lot of times bartenders will do them with you because they're like whatever and to me my like whatever justification i have for my like drinking problem i think the brine erases the jameson and so i'm like always i'm always leaving with a clear conscience i'm like i barely drank anything i just had four picklebacks it doesn't count it doesn't i swear to god it doesn't count pickle juice erases it all it's it's all. It's better electrolytes than Gatorade, right? Really?

It definitely has so much sodium in it that you feel less hungover. When we say electrolytes, what are we talking about? Because it always sounded to me like Gatorade has electrolytes, and I picture three or four little electric lights floating around in the bottom. You know the stuff that helps Michael Jordan dunk? Yes. Pickle juice is pretty much chocolate. There's more of that in a pickle juice.

There's about four more of that in a pickle juice than any given water. So this is fascinating that your first pickleback was in Brooklyn. And then you estimated the year around, what do you say? 2008, maybe 2008. It was at a bar named woodwork that was on Vanderbilt. That's no longer there. But,

um, then I really, really got into getting a handle of Jameson, getting a jar of pickles, bringing a bunch of Dixie cups and pretty much any party I went to having people do pickle juice. That's a good, that's good.

It's very fun. And it's an event show. We saw when we talked about fireball, like internally at the company that makes fireball, they call it like an event shot or a novelty shot. And it's like those, um, Jaeger Meister and a few other things are like,

nobody ever just takes a shot by themselves. But if you can, you give people a fun, weird thing to do, especially at the end of the night, then those always sell because people like to get a little weird. It's funny because Jaeger and Fireball,

I think I don't want Picklebacks associated with because I think that that is like lower level. Ooh. Lower level. Wow. Sorry, Hanford. Not sophisticated. No, no, it's low level stuff.

I'll just go back to my fucking rat hole and shoot myself in the head. Is that what you want? I got to say, Jaeger to me is college and Pickleback to me is sophistication. What about when the Jaeger is really cold out of the freezer? No, dude. I don't think I've actually had a Jaeger bomb. I've had Jaeger before I've tasted it, but I've never done a shot. Jaeger bombs are so gnarly.

I just remember Jaeger bombs like in there was like a deal at this bar in Chicago that was like dollar Jaeger. And it was just a full red solo cup of Jaeger. No, no. For a dollar ineger. No. Oh, no. For a dollar in Chicago. No. Nothing makes my stomach bounce. Like, at the end of a night, if I've got a bunch of liquor and food in me

and I have a Jaeger shot, it's like a risky situation. I agree. I agree. They're really... I think that that... Also, Jaeger bomb, much like... I'm sorry, I don't know what it's called now.

You guys did an episode about an Irish car bomb. What are they called now? Irish shot or whatever. Yeah. But you're, it's just so much fucking liquid. You're just, and that's what a Jaeger bomb too.

You're just like, Oh my God, I'm like sloshing around. What does Jaeger go into in a Jaeger bomb? Just a beer? Is it Red Bull? Normal beer, I think. Oh, Oh, Red Bull. Yeah.? Just a beer? Is it Red Bull? Normal beer, I think.

Oh, Red Bull? Yeah, I think it's Red Bull plus something. Ugh, Jesus Christ. But a Jäger bomb's been around longer than Red Bull, right? Probably. I don't know. But what I like, you know, the Guinness bomb, there's a reason to chug it because the Baileys will curdle when it touches the beer.

And with the Pickleback, nothing's going to curdle, but there is this idea that you are erasing the Jameson and there's like a reason to do it fast. And it does make you think like you are canceling it all out. So listen to this. You were pretty close to the very origin of this drink, Fran. This is not on the IBA. We're going rogue. But from Liquor.com, they say- is not on the IBA. We're going rogue.

But from Liquor.com, they say- Should be on the IBA. Yeah, we'll get it there. This fucking drink started in Brooklyn in 2006. Holy shit. Really? At the Bushwick Country Club, a dive bar kind of cheekily named Country Club.

Have you guys ever been there? I think I have, yeah. It's technically in Williamsburg. I think it had been zoned as Bushwick, and now it's Williamsburg. But it's kind of like a charming little divey bar. Is it still around? It is still around. And the thing about it is it was right next to the headquarters,

the New York headquarters for McClure's Pickles. McClure's makes their pickles in Detroit and Brooklyn. And with the Birthday Boys, we did New York Sketch Fest in 2008 or 2009, and it was sponsored by McClure's, and we were eating those pickles. They were free all weekend. That was funny. Backstage, it was like Newcastle, Red Bulls, and McClure's Pickles were like, you could have as much as you wanted. Wow, that's so funny that they wouldn't.

See, and I also got to say, I was talking to Hanford about this the other week. I always called them Jamie Picklebacks because I was always drinking Jameson with them. I always thought it was called a Jamie Pickleback because I was always drinking Jameson with them. I always thought it was called a Jamie pickleback because I only would drink Jameson, but a pickleback is just a pickleback proper. It just means you're drinking pickle juice after anything.

Just like you could get a vodka pickleback where you do a shot of vodka and are just drinking. And in fact, that was the original one. This, the, the, the bartender said,

I saw an interview where he said like some lady came in and she wanted to drink pickle juice. And so she had vodka and followed it with a shot of pickle juice. And she was like, it's good. Why don't you try it? And the bartender tried it. He liked it and then told another bartender and then they ran it as a drink special but they're they switched from vodka to whiskey because they were they were using shitty whiskey like old crow and they were they were thinking like oh you drink your worst whiskey and then you erase it with pickle juice yeah and then that

caught on and then at a bar somewhere uh i think i want to say Lower East Side, maybe there's a place called Whiskey Town. I think it's not there anymore. Not there anymore. It's they picked it up and then they started doing the Jameson. And then it got more popular with Jameson and people didn't want to drink the Old Crow. Man, I thought this was like an old time, like me too, from from the old country type of thing. It's no wonder you call that other stuff like college because you couldn't have had one of these in college. It didn't exist yet.

I got to say. I just think of Jameson as like, I don't know. I think that Jameson is nicer than Fireball. Sorry. It's nicer. You're right. You are correct. I don't work for Fireball. I don't invent Fireball. I just love the taste. I drink it. You're right. You are correct. Hey, I don't work for Fireball.

I don't invent Fireball. I just love the taste. You just drink it all day every day. I have to say, watching Hanford ask a bar, kind of like a cooler hip bar, if they have Fireball, really brings me so much joy. We'll be places, and he's like, you don't have Fireball, do you?

And they're like, no. We probably do now. So funny. On you were funny on the strip on the strip no they didn't they had the saddle ranch that's what i had there and uh at the last when we were waiting for our uber we like ordered it and they like didn't have one or something um what about add to ye rustic you ordered and he didn't but he gave you some other cinnamon thing that he shook off. No, he made up something. He was like, I'll make you something like a fireball. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't Goldschlager. He's like, this is what I make

when people ask. I was like, oh, okay. And it didn't taste like it. You can't be fucking shooting at the hip to make a fireball. It's probably pretty down to the damn ounce. I said we got to get into this one because I'm ready. Okay, let me give you the recipe here and then we'll go.

Great. So you line up two shots in front of you. One is an ounce and a half of Jameson Irish whiskey. Easy. The other one is an ounce and a half of McClure's pickle brine. Now, the guy who invented it said, it's just not the same without Mccclure's spicy pickle brine so for for me and fran i went to the bristol farms in pasadena and i saw they had garlic dill and i

said no no no spicy but i ate one of the pickles and they are very spicy so drinking this stuff might be kind of intense for us i love it well i Well, I went to my local grocery store, and I found the McClure's, and they had bread and butter pickles and spicy pickles, and they had the thickest amount of dust I've ever seen on a pickle jar. So I said, I'm not going to eat these, and I got a Vlasic Stackers. Yeah. Oh, you got stackers? Vlasic Stackers, because I got some sandwich stuff here that I'm going to put on the Vlasic Stackers. Oh, you got stackers? Vlasic Stackers, because I got some sandwich stuff

here that I'm going to put on the Vlasic Stackers. That's always the best in a bodega where they're like, fancy stuff has not been touched. You go for like maraschino cherries that are like $8.99 and you're like, sir, there's a cat shitting on this. And they're like, yeah, yeah, you definitely still owe us $9.

This was like a decent, not like a Whole Foods, but like a decent grocery, like a grocery store. And it was on the bottom shelf. Like, isn't bottom shelf usually like the cheapest stuff? It was all crazy. And I said, I know exactly what I'm going for. The stork. Classic, Vlasic.

I got the Vlasic too. The classic, Vlasic stacker. So we'll get the drinks and then we'll do the shots. We'll get the drinks and then we'll do the shots. We'll get the drinks and then we'll do them live. Yeah, bring it all back here. Folks, we'll be right back. I'm just bringing the bottle and the jar over next to the computer and we're just going to rock.

Me too. Come on now. Okay, let's do that. Love it. Yeah. Great. They're so funny. Like the drinks, the,

the drinks you guys have have more alcohol in it than this. Yeah. Not as many as we're going to be doing. We're going to do two. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Well why are you saying this is there some sort of we gotta talk

Jamiroquai on the on the Patreon after this so we can't get too drunk Jeff yeah no we won't why are you

why do you have a secret no there's no secret you're being kind of sneaky Pete you're being a coy boy Jeff what's going on? Coy boy. Two is good. Alright, I'm going to bring us back in.

Folks, we're back. We're just figuring out our situations. I'm all poured up. All poured in. I'm ready to go. I don't have fucking Jameson. I've got Seagram 7 or Bullet Bourbon. What should I do? Bullet's better.

Bullet's better, but people have told us on Instagram to boycott Bullet. I can't remember the reason. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know the reason either. Maybe too much gunplay? Yeah, way too much. Follow your heart, Jeff. I do want to say that I looked up

the pickles from the Lower East Side and they're called Gus's Pickles. So Gus's Pickles are so delicious, but if you only eat Gus's Pickles for 10 days straight, you'll shit mold. So to everyone listening, it's like get Gus's, eat them,

but also eat other foods as well yeah that can be just so confusing your stomach becomes the pickle jar you become a fermenter do not do this thing where like you take this pickle challenge eat them for a month and then send us photographs of your shit that is not what we want to do here even though the pickle challenge is raising awareness yeah yes and we will be donating yes old shits we don't want to know about it and we will be matching donations yeah yes for every picture you send in we'll match a picture donation yeah we'll send a picture of our shit to a doctor we'll take 10 days to to eat only pickles

begrudgingly okay here's what i what I'm going to do, guys. Let's see them. Hold them up. I recently decided that we're going to be the types of guys that when we take our shots, we clang them off the table. Oh, yeah. I've done that forever. And you always need eye contact, too.

You need eye contact even on Zencaster. But I don't think we need to do it for the second shot, right? The back just goes straight back. The back just goes back. And I do also want to point out, well, whatever whatever i'll talk about it after this point out the fact that it's even jameson to pickle juice weird i don't know about that i think it should be less i always do less pickle juice i'll do like a thimble of pickle juice. You don't need an ounce and a half. Exactly, Timmy. Exactly. It's insane. Exactly.

I don't want to have a salty sleep. No. It's so much brine. It really is just... Damn. An ounce and a half of brine is just so much. So I will drink it, to be honest to the pod, but not my normal. Not my normal steez.

Well, this is totally fucking cool. I have three pickle seeds in my pickle juice. This is going to suck. Hanford, that's the thing. Well, let's do the shot and then we'll talk. Yeah. Okay, cheers. Cheers.

Bottoms up. Cheers. Hi, boy. Oh, yeah. Oh. Love it. Oh. Oh. Love it. Spicy.

That feeling when you have to do three gulps of pickle juice. Oh. That is not a good T-FW. All right. Okay. These elastic stackers are bread and butter. I did not know that. I thought they were dill.

Oh, Michael. This all sucks. You've got to be fucking kidding me. Here's the thing. Also, with the stackers. Two ingredients. When I went to go get pickles, I was like, I'm going to take a good look at that brine because I have old ass pickle juice in my fridge that I've just been holding on to for

this. And then when I looked at them, I was like, I got these ovals. I got relish i got i got the stackers and they and they all have and they all have just like shards and seeds and like there's just a bunch of other stuff if you get whole pickles it's just like clean water it's like pickle water yeah the idea that you think you could do a pickle back with relish water. It's like sludge. Reserve that for Hanford.

Reserve that for Hanford. All right, round two. Whoa, hold on. Huh? Oh, I'm on round three. This was kind of funny is that I like Jameson, so that first shot was kind of funny is that I like Jameson. So that first shot was kind of delicious. And then this McClure's pickle juice is absolutely divine.

And is it spicy? It is spicy. I have to say we are living the fucking dream right now with the Jameson McClure's combo. I finished that shot. I am thirsty for another. I know. This is how you stay in business. Okay.

I literally am. I am so pumped to take another shot. You know, it might even turn into just me sneaking sippos because. We can do a small one. I can do a small one. We can do a small one. It is funny.

Like that salt me, like I want to hydrate with more Jameson. Hmm. Yeah. I, I want to hydrate with more Jameson. Yeah, I will say just it's a little too much pickle juice for the amount of Jameson, especially because McClure's is pretty spicy. And when you're doing a couple gulps of pickle juice, it's a little too much. No, the idea of doing a middle swallow with pickle juice juice is awful and i agree this this stuff is spicy i would do just you know maybe like a quarter of a shot is all hey i did a uh middle swallow with the vlasic and i i had a blast um that's a vlasic blast it did i will say the mcclure's spicy pickle juice cleared my nose like i feel like i'm like

i i don't know i feel like i just did a um what do you call those that you squirt up your nose neti pot or it's like a neti pot it. It kind of, this has to be some sort of like ancient cure for something. And Brooklyn just kind of took it over and was like, a Jamie Pickleback. We're going to find out that like in 500 BC.

Yeah, exactly. We're going to see cave drawings of like the best fucking parties ever. Michael. What? I told you on my, like the best fucking parties ever. Mike, Michael, what? I told you on my, my, my,

my fourth. I definitely feel cleared up. I feel like I'm happy to report that washed away. All any COVID I had left. Oh yeah. Oh wow. I have heard it's a cure. I have heard that the

jb pickleback if you just do it straight up the nose that will make you covid we should spread the word about that because like that could be really helpful to a lot of people the burps aren't great i will say the sort of like backfire not great it's just a lot of intense flavor but what about if the if the pickle erases the jameson what do you think about a jameson pickle on the rocks and you sip it like a cocktail do you think that would work i don't know if you want to hang out with it quite that much but i would try it yeah i would try it but i would be really wary of how much pickle juice i added to the jameson on the rocks maybe i'll do it maybe i'll be brave i might be definitely try if you have like a podcast or something maybe i'll start

a podcast that where i'm trying drinks yeah instead of this one where we kind of really know our shit yeah yeah yeah you guys are just experts talking about making cocktails but i'm curious on my third one we should do our second one but on my third one i think i might try like a different liquor like a yeah vodka shot or a rum shot or something i would definitely do a different pickleback i definitely have done i will say every single sort of pickleback like a gin bag vodka bag and vodka back is pretty good i i mean like a like a pickleback with vodka. Yeah. That feels like the most natural one.

Gin is interesting in, for the cocktail idea I was talking about. I think maybe what I would do is look around. I have a few different bottles of whiskey. Maybe I get my cheapest whiskey and see if it erases. Honestly, I did the Seagram seven, which is like fine.

It's not, it's not, um, that one you mentioned from Williamsburg old, but, uh, now next up, I'm going Seagram 7, which is like fine. It's not that one you mentioned from Williamsburg. Old crew. But next up, I'm going to do a little bullet and try to enjoy myself. Yeah, maybe I'll try. So you're against cancel culture, right, Jeff?

That your whole thing is like, hey, give bullet a chance. Yeah, we got to have a path back to society for bullet. Bullet's on tour and Dunn's buying a ticket. That's okay. that's okay that's okay wait with speaking of weird shots and fran you're from chicago do you have any feelings on malort oh malort malort is a is that like a is that like a licorice sort of yes it kind of tastes like medicine yes it's like a it's it's like um it looks kind of uh like whiskey or something but it's it's swedish and it's got kind of a a little licorice and then almost like a like you know that listerine that's not minty but it's like that original Listerine? Yeah, the yellow one.

That's good. I need to kind of finish off a bottle of that that I have at my house in Brooklyn because I got it at a bodega. It's like 100 ounces and all the instructions are in Israeli. I read Israeli, so I can decipher them for you. I don't know why, but they got an import from... Man, those old products like Listerine

and Gold Bond, they really do not fuck around, huh? Yeah, they don't change their looks. People like when something's gross. In the old days, they liked if it was gross. They would have believed that it was doing more if it tasted bad. I mean, I'm a fan of like Old Spice as far as like grandpa smells

in the bathroom and stuff. Like I like a classic Old Spice. But I'll tell you this, this is TMI, but hey, I've had a shot. I burned my balls once with Gold Bond. The medicated Gold Bond. That was their slogan. Burn your balls with Gold Bond. I'm not sure what gold bond is.

It's like... So if your balls feel nice, and you want to like burn them up. Oh. They've been feeling too good lately. You want to cut them down a peg. I didn't know what it was. My only familiarity is that

Neil every night is like, put this on. I'm like, okay. And he makes me kind of... He gives you a throat dusting. Shake it over him. Oh yeah. And for the listener who doesn't Gives you a throat dusting. Shake it over him. Oh, yeah. And for the listener who doesn't know,

Fran is good friends with Neil. Campbell, yes. Contest winner? Yes, contest winner, Neil. Oh, yes, yes, yes. And I also know Lazy. Guy. Oh, yeah.

Lazy Guy the Lizard, of course. He lives at your home. Yes, he does. He darkens your doorway. I had kind of a sad turn of events recently. I was telling Neil that I was walking in Griffith Park, and I saw a lizard, and he was laying there just like Lazy Guy, all spread out, real funny.

And I got up close, took a picture. He didn't move, got a little closer. Oh, no. He had croaked. He's dead, guys. No. He passed. He bought the farm down there. He actually passed move, got a little closer. Oh, no. He had croaked. He's dead guy. No. He passed. He bought the farm down there.

He actually had passed away, yeah. Purchased the ranch. I got to say, he purchased the ranch. There were definitely a few days where there was like a smell from under our stairs, exactly where Lazy hangs out. A small smell. I didn't see Lazy, and i definitely sort of like introduced the idea that perhaps the smell and lazy missing were connected and um that was uh i would say a

dark time for us over here on our show so you thought that maybe lazy had some real bad bo i guess um yeah tim can someone talk to him yeah can one of you guys talk to me And then maybe Lazy had some real bad BO, I guess. Um, yeah, Tim. Can someone talk to him? Yeah, can one of you guys talk to him? Can one of you guys talk to him? Neil, I see Lazy's mail is sort of piling up. You think he's okay? Lizard centerfold monthly.

Yeah. Okay. His fresh direct of flies is getting stinky. Yes. Yes, yes. Well, shall we? Yeah. Okay, we're doing... I might just do the same thing because it's right here.

Great. Yeah, me too. I'm not walking away from this one. I know. I can't leave this party for a minute. Are you kidding me? I can't risk that. Is Neal around or is he doing his own thing? Would he want to take a shot?

If he's doing his thing, we don't have to bother him. I think he's watching the Dodgers, but I can go get him. Yeah, grab him. Grab him! If he's handy. Neal! Grab his ass. Grab his ass.

Oh, I'm eating pickles on the Grab his ass. Grab his ass. Oh, I'm eating pickles on the side, too. This is great. I think every podcast I'm just going to have a thing of pickles. Sorry. Oh, no. He's already sauced. Oh, God.

Rudy Tutti-Tutti. Oh, my gosh. He's sauced out the walls. I've never seen him like this. Has he had one thimble of beer? Contest winner Neil is drunk. I was just going to say, before you start recording, I was going to ask Fran where my tiny dry penis cream is. Is the cream tiny or is...

Dry. The cream is in a massive container. It's a tub, but... Let me know when you hit record. Oh, yeah, yeah. we're recording now Right now Okay, welcome back, it's shot two time Hey, we got I have a moist penis

Contest winner and essayist Neil Campbell has joined One of Fran's close friends Fran's bosom pal. I actually wouldn't say we're friends. I would say roommates. Have things been getting romantic with the friends? Yeah, there's a little friends with benefits situation.

No strings attached. The benefits are he stays out of my way. Am I right, boys? Come on. Yes, thank you. Who cares? What do you guys got for your shot? I looked for the cheapest

whiskey I had to see if this would erase it and I didn't have anything shitty. The cheapest I had was Jack Daniels, which I respect. Some people don't like it, but I'm going to have Jack Daniels. Oh, little Jack. Yeah, I just got the same thing. I didn't stray. Bullet over here

with a Vlasic back. There you go. We're doing the same.. I didn't stray. Bullet over here with a Vlasic back. There you go. And Jamie over. We're doing the same. We're doing Jamie pickles. Bottoms up. Here we go. Fantastic.

Bottoms up. Yep. Get the thing. Yo. Ow. Ooh, clean palate. Oh, you guys are cringing over there. What's up?

I love it. It's a good cringe. It is a good cringe. Is it the spicy pickle? Is it the spicy pickle that's making you... Yeah, the McClure's juice is very spicy, but it's not the bad spice that hurts your tongue. It makes your breath warm.

It's great. I will say a face made after a giant shot is not necessarily negative. To me, it's just like, damn, I just like blasted my system. But I like that shit. I like feeling like I'm having a reaction as opposed to like sipping a cocktail or like, you know, whatever. I feel like I like sort of a like high octane experience like that

last time we were together we got Casamigos shots and they were rough yes they were really rough the lime we bit into was like sour as hell that's what they do man the whole thing was kind of fucked up you guys know the blowout move right you take like a

gross shot or something you just go and like oh yeah you won't react like nearly as crazy oh I thought you were talking about the

sloppy voice blowout the only blowout move our listeners need to worry about is putting five dollars down every month on the patreon subscribing

or ten if you want to hear a little Lennon pod that's very fun that um having a big reaction to a shot reminds me there's this chain called juice press i'm not sure how national it is or whatever but they have something called a hangover cure which is like a have you guys ever had like sort of an elixir when you're super hungover it's like yes yes and it's so so potent like you take it and there's horseradish in it a lot of times it's in like a little those little tiny bottles yeah yeah i've had that stuff well

there there's different versions of it but juice Press has something called the hangover cure and definitely on like days I've been out late or like definitely kind of had a night and need to sort of like get it out of my system it is the most like

pungent thing you could ever taste and on more than one occasion I take the shot and then just immediately barf. The very thing you were trying to avoid. And it shows you now we're all stupid because I've, it's like fool me once, but I have done that multiple times where I've taken the shot and been like, ah, I'm not going to be hung over anymore. I'm doing my hangover cure. And I turn like sheet white.

I'm sweating so hard. And I just like fully and barfing because it really is supposed to just sort of like, uh, kind of like get rid of everything in your system. And yeah, it's crazy. It,

but there's no alcohol. I wouldn't feel bad about barfing because you know when when steve-o uh snorts wasabi yeah he barfs so it's part of it part of the plan it's natural i i i barf all the time it doesn't embarrass me or make me feel i i feel like it's just sort of something that happens i i now in my older age have felt more uh i would say anxiety about barfing in public like oh fuck i feel like i'm gonna barf and i'm in public kind of frowned upon I would say a bad smell can make me throw up. Like if I smell something nasty that can like make me fully just barf. And I have barfed in public definitely on more than one occasion.

One time I threw up in a purse on the subway. My own purse, relax. Don't tell me it wasn't a Louis Vuitton. I can't believe it was a designer handbag that I paid top dollar for. No, not top dollar. I wish I hadn't.

I wish I hadn't. She eyes back off. She wishes she hadn't. I wish I hadn't. My worst public barf was, you ever see the group of guys that'll hang out in front of a U-Haul because they want to get hired for day laboring? Sure, sure. Sure. I was hung over from the night before and we were going to get a U-Haul and I had to barf and I saw a garbage can

in front of the U-Haul store. So I started running towards it and then those guys saw me and they all kind of swarmed me thinking I was going to hire them and then barfed in front of 12 guys. And that's the opposite of what you want. When you're looking for employment

and you get bile and gross liquids. Sure. Yeah. That's really hard. One time I went to visit my brother when he was in college and I was still in high school. And I went to visit him

and he took me out to the parties and the bars and I was drinking and stuff. But I was also wearing a pair of kind of like custard color, like yellow color pants. Like Ronald McDonald. I got really sick and was thrown up like crazy at the end of the night. And the next day, just looking at these pants made me like sick for some reason. Your own pants? Like looking. Custard colored. these pants made me like sick for some reason your own pants like like looking custard colored

and to be fair custard color pants in the first place should make you barf but it was like i couldn't even like look at the the clothing i was wearing while i was drinking this stuff i'm just teasing you my maybe my favorite parts of this pod is hearing about your guys' style in the past. Like when there was an episode where Tim described where you had the different patterned pants on each leg that your mom sewed for you. Yeah. The skids. That was a good look. Denim on one leg and pajama pant on the other leg.

That's cool. Oh, God. Skids. Denim on one leg and pajama pant on the other leg. That's cool. Oh, God. But I would assume, Mike, these tan khakis you're talking about, they were probably like Tom Ford, right? He said custard colored. They were custard colored Carhartts. To me, that's yellow. When you say custard, I think mustard.

Can you believe that? No. We're on the same page because now I'm like, what color yellow were your pants? Don't be wearing yellow pants. They're more yellow around a certain area. When you say custard makes you think of mustard, that makes me flustered.

Oh. Michael, are you coming around on the idea of buying a buffalo plaid Carhartt jacket for this winter? Everyone wants you to do it. I am not coming around on it. Why not?

Is it the pattern is not Hanford-y enough for you? You're going to look great. I don't know if I love it. You're going to look like a softie, brother. Everyone's going to think you're cool as hell. That's what those guys wear? What have you guys teamed up and got it for my birthday coming up November 3rd?

That's what I'm getting at. Yes. Maybe the Patrons on our Patreon show all kind of chicken. Yeah, maybe the Patrons will kick in. Oh, yeah. We should do that wish list shit that OnlyFans girls do. Oh, my God. No.

Yes. We should. We definitely should. Buy me a jacket. I would like the King James Bible. Yes. We should. We definitely should. Buy me a jacket. I would like the King James Bible. Oh. I would like some Dill Vlasic Stackers. Yes.

You would like the correct alcohol for the drinks. That's right. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Did you guys, not to change the subject entirely. No, please. Go ahead. No, Go ahead No go ahead

But the last time I haven't had a pickleback in a while But I saw someone Do a pickleback shot recently I was Really Down at the Hard Rock Cafe restaurant

At Times Square Oh And I was there I wasn't with this person But who walks in Two people Timberlake and Timberland No

Timberlake Yeah cool Timberlake people timberlake and timberland no yeah cool timberland oh my god timberland yeah so they came in star of just friends they're friends yep they're friends and uh yes yes yes i was there i was there i i gotten a gift certificate to it to hard rock like three years ago. And I didn't want to eat there, but I wanted to get the money back for it. So I was there for a long time trying to work this out with the manager. Anyway, while this was all being worked out, at the bar is Timberlake and Timbaland. And Timberlake got a pickleback shot.

No shit. What? Yeah, he got one. Hey, stars, they're just like us. Oh, my God. Yeah, he was kind of hungry. He was saying this to Timberland. He was hungry, but not completely famished.

That's kind of what I got. So the bartender came around, and he ordered the shot, and I managed to get my phone out and do a little sneaky record. No, no, no. I didn't want to text you guys. I wanted to record it for you. Just in case he said something that we could maybe use on the podcast. And he did.

So if you want to play that. Holy shit. Awesome. Timberlake. Yeah. This is him ordering his drink. I'll have a pickle back I'd also like to order a small snack Barbecue ribs but not the whole rack

So just one pork rib and the pickle back Oh, you want anything Timberland? I'm good What'd you say? Ran out of pickle juice earlier today. Oh, this must just not be my lucky day. Also, my favorite jeans began to fray. You sure you don't want anything?

I had a big lunch. Come here, sir. Go ahead, start making it. Cancel pickle back. Go ahead, start making it. Don't cancel the ribs. Go ahead, start making it. Just one sir. Go ahead, start making it. Cancel pickle back. Go ahead, start making it. Don't cancel the ribs. Go ahead, start making it. Just one rib.

Go ahead, start making it. Now I'm eating ribs. Go ahead, start making it. I mean just one rib. Go ahead, start making it. I should have ordered sauce. Go ahead, start making it. This rib is really dry.

Go ahead, put sauce on it. Wait, is that pickle juice? Go ahead, put sauce on it. Right next to the gin. Go ahead, put sauce on it. Oh, it's appletini mix? Go ahead, put sauce on it. Can I please have a water?

Go ahead, put sauce on it. Oh, it's appletini mix? Go ahead, put sauce on it. Can I please have a water? Go ahead, put sauce on it. Woo! Oh, Timberland, do you have any Tums? This dry rib made me a little burpy and farty. Whoa.

Yeah, you heard all that. I heard it. The stars are just like us. Yeah, he said all of it. He made it burpee and farty? Yeah. He had the one rib, the one dry rib he ate made him burpee and farty. Whew.

I have to say. Stars are like us. Okay. That's truly crazy. Mm-hmm. Agreed. Because the first time I was like going to order, I,

okay. The first time I had a pickleback, I'm in line at this bar, whatever that I told you guys about woodwork, whatever. And then I'm like, uh, you know,

waiting in line, whatever woman in front of me is like, um, Swedish kind of a babe. I i like i'm definitely liking her vibe whatever i'm kind of careening my ear yeah listening to what she's ordering sure and she's like uh what are you gonna get i'm like yeah i'm not sure probably just like a tequila soda and she's like okay well i don't know because i might have a shot and then something after it and i was like kind of like what how what why what i know the feeling i know that feeling. How? I was like,

what? Why? And she's like, cause I want a shot after the shot. And I was like, but how? What? Why?

What? What is it? I could totally picture you just being like, why? And like, how? Why are you getting, and how is it?

But, but what? Why? And then she, this beautiful Swedish woman, she turns to me and she kind of says, and I also recorded it. Yeah, no. Okay.

So she's looking at me, right? Okay. So she's looking at me, right? And I'm definitely wondering what she's gonna order. Uh-huh. And I'm excited. I'm always looking for

new drinks. I'm excited. Yeah, we know. Excited. Yeah, we know. I bet here it goes. So here she says. I had a new drink.

I can barely emphasize how good it was. How should a person like me describe this drink? First I had whiskey and then I spied the pickle jar. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Here's what came next. I drank the brine. After the whiskey shot, I drank the brine. Jameson and deuces, there's four pickle juices. I drank the brine.

After the whiskey shot, I drank the brine after the whiskey shot I drank the brine first you drink the brown liquid and then you have the one that's slightly green like baby Yoda's sweat like baby Yoda's sweat oh yeah because it's just slightly green

like baby Yoda is green but his sweat is slightly green. Yeah, you know how we sweat. You sweat like kind of the lighter version of whatever your skin color is. Yeah, like mine is a little bit pink. Believe me. And when she started explaining, I was like, your vocals are pretty loud and the music underneath is kind of soft.

Yeah, that's crazy. She had music. Was there music on my recording of song yeah that's crazy she had music was there music on my recording of uh yeah i couldn't remember there was yeah there was uh yeah that was cool to get the music there and it was a swedish person just a swedish just a beautiful swedish woman that's all we know she was there with her brother and i think a friend of theirs oh that's interesting yeah okay i mean it's times like this i'm just so grateful like both of you that you had your you know we have these mobile devices you just hit record you know was it's so it was the swedish person to quote uh joseph gordon levitt you know hit record yes

thank you uh was the swedish uh person friend were did talk to them? Were they a singer by trade? Seemed like it. You can tell. You can tell. You can tell. The look. The voice. The look.

The vibe. The sound coming out of their mouth. The fact that she sang about the brine. Right. A lot of people that don't work in the vocalism field don't often sing. They'll just be talking and it's less like melodic right right that's exciting i mean yeah the seems like the singers are drinking picklebacks but that is jeff's doing a pickleback shot right now no i was just taking a little sip

it's definitely how i learned because it's hard to remember. And then it was like, I drank the brine, you know, I drank the brown stuff. Then I drank the brine. Yeah. It's so memorable. I'm surprised you didn't mention it. It's slightly green. I'm surprised you didn't mention it at the top of the show when we asked how you first had one, but I just forgot for like a minute. Selective memory. Maybe something we said kind of jarred that it had been repressed.

Yeah. Maybe we were like, Oh right. I do have a recording of that night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we were like, oh right, I do have a recording of that night. Yeah. All those years ago, that night. Yeah, very much like in Ransom where he hears the man's voice and then he pisses down his leg. Mel Gibson, yeah. Yeah, let's just say Hanford's

clip was reminiscent of me pissing down my leg. I swore before this show I was only going to have two pickleback shots, but I'm kind of reaching for a third. Tim, I swore before this show I was only going to have two pickleback shots, but I'm kind of reaching for a third. I know. I swore up and down.

And this is why it is truly the world's best drink. It really is. Yeah. Better than water. Because you feel like it's nothing.

It's universal. And we're having fun. And finally, we're having some fun on this. The pickle juice did cancel out the Jameson, so I haven't had anything to drink. That's right. I'm thirsty. It's back to zero.

Basically, our first shot. Let's get our shots ready. I'm pouring it up. Quick break. Yeah, quick break. All right. We'll be back, folks. I'm also eating pickles.

Cartoon drunk burp I'm back Yes, who's back? I'm live Fran, are you back? I'm back We're back We're all back Hey, you guys had some really good audio clips

But I just had an idea I don't have an audio clip but i want to ask you if you think this is funny yeah um if if there was a band called pickleback and then they had a song that said this is how you are briny is that funny do you think that's funny? It's really funny. That's good. That's funny. Because that's all I wanted to just ask. It's really funny. Just to clarify, the clip I played, if you found it humorous, fine. It wasn't to be funny. No, no. My thing is totally separate. My thing is because I'm a comedy writer.

I've got two WGA award nominations, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're always thinking about funny stuff. Yes. And Mike, you were telling us a story about how you needed to get your money back from the hard rock.

Did that ever happen? No, it was about an hour and a half of dealing with the manager. I couldn't get the money back. So I had to forfeit because I wasn't going to eat there. Money back, pickle back.

It's all like, that's kind of confusing. So I just forfeited the gift certificate. 50 bucks! Man. Oh. You could just forfeited the gift certificate. 50 bucks. Man. Oh. You could have given it to your new friends.

No, because I don't want anyone to eat there. The hard rock? Until they put a copy of our album up on the wall, a poster of our album covers. Okay. Yes. Sorry, I was going to say, not to change the subject, but I have a question for the

Sloppy Boys as a fan. We're taking questions. This is the Q&A part of this. If it's a questions for Lennon, that's more of a higher tier thing. I'm just honestly talking about drinking now with three of my dear friends

who I know also love drinking I don't love this I don't love drinking it's killing me really? slowly but surely it is oh my god I love it so much it's truly maybe the most fun thing in the world

I like listening to your podcast because when I'm not drinking I like thinking about drinking yeah i know that sounds crazy but it's fun that's about right yeah i know you guys have talked about brunch drinks and like kind of which do i say the french 75 but okay nice which i said which would Oh, nice. A champagne. Which would be what? Champagne and what else? It's a liqueur. Oh, God, I don't know. I think it's champagne for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends.

Yeah. What about you? I think it's champagne poppy. I was going to say, because this to me is different than a morning drink. What is your hair of the dog? Oh. Oh, very good question. Because I have to say,

and not to get too personal, but I've had a couple shots. At Saturday Night Live, the schedule is like, you just have one day off and in your one day off, you're coming off of a late night of possibly partying yeah and so hair of the dog possibly is so crucial to me yeah because it means you're

gonna have a sunday or not have a sunday and i don't think i've ever been able to sort of master because i feel like i'm such like a a shots queen i'm like obsessed with like showing up and making everybody take a shot that i'm like what is a normal hair of the dog and i'm curious about your answers when when people say hair of the dog they mean hair of the dog that bit you so it's supposed to be the same thing you were drinking the night before. You're smart. But technically, yeah, I don't, I don't subscribe to that at all. I don't think it matters.

Like, uh, once alcohol goes in your blood, your blood does its thing. And my hangover cure is the secret for me is to go really easy on the booze because you don't want drunk day two. The secret for me is to go really easy on the booze because you don't want drunk day two. And sometimes I've had the double Bloody Mary and then I fucking just- Oh, cool. So it's double the vodka? Yeah, but then Monday is a hangover. I just kick the can.

You know what I mean? So here's what I do is bloody with all the accoutrement, pickles, dilly beans, olives. Dilly dilly. It's only a half shot of vodka. Oh. So that's mostly just sort of accessories. You're drinking like, yeah. But only barely enough alcohol to just take the edge off the barfs.

Ah. Yeah, I remember I was quite impressed. We were at a Make Your Own Bloody Bar, you and I, Tim, after Ferguson's wedding. Oh, yes. And you did a great job. Oh, that was a good one. I had a blast at that. St. Paul, Minnesota.

It was a great one. Okay, cool. What are you guys doing? So, Timmy's answer is kind of like a low level alcohol but mostly kind of salty stuff filling it with yeah and a breakfast burrito filling it with kind of disguisers sort of like not alcohol but associated with yes yeah like greasy food is uh is a good thing i usually do i'll get like a small, like leather, like horse crop type thing.

Okay. And sort of bludgeon my back as sort of a penance for the, for the previous night's sins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of kinky, Mike. I've actually never done,

I've never done a hair of the dog, like an actual alcoholic drink. Yeah, you have. I remember after. Yes, you have, Han yes you have hanford well what are you talking about when sunday fun day after like the big house parties on like uh you know back at the old house we'd be cleaning up the cans and you'd be cracking a bud light while we clean up the cans yeah probably a bud light then that's what i'm talking about a hair of the

dog means when you're super hungover what you drink to sort of get yourself back in it. Yeah. I think more it's like greasy food is what gets me back. Eh. Alright. Alright. But I agree. I agree.

I mean 151. Whoa. Wow. That's a whole bottle. Damn. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. Yeah.

And for me, Salvia. Jeff, you guys are bad. I like to go to some, I get, I like to go to some weird realm. Oh, okay. No, that makes sense. You don't like this realm. So you want to be in a weird realm. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Guys. I looked up the French 75 and it is gin. Okay, no, that makes sense. You don't like this realm, so you want to be in a weird realm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys, I looked up the French 75, and it is gin. Gin, lemon, simple syrup. That's what you add to your champagne. See, Lil Mookie B also loves the French 75. It's very delicious and feels kind of like a drink you can have during the day. Yeah.

Invented at Harry's Bar in Paris. Wow. Hey, Fran. Hey, Fran. I do Bloody Mary, but I don't go half shot. have during the day yeah i did at harry's bar in paris hey friend hey friend uh i i do bloody mary but i don't go half shot i go normal strength where do you fall as far as bloody mary versus mimosa always bloody yeah but i will say i think earlier we were talking about like hacks I feel like people early on told me that an airplane hack was just ordering Bloody Mary mix

because it's free but you don't get the alcohol in it but it's very filling like if you're in a long flight but don't want to pay for food you get Bloody Mary mix because it's very very filling but it has so much fucking sodium in it right crazy it is like you you're having like insane heartburn in the sky and you're like oh

this is how i die i've had too much sodium and if you're drinking a can a whole can of that is meant to make like probably like two bloody Marys or something on the rocks. I think it's called Miss Marys. It's called Miss Marys Bloody, right? There's Mr. and Mrs. Tees is the one I always see. Oh, Mr. Teo. Yeah, Mr. Teo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But the reason that's popular in the air is because people have reported dulled taste in the air. So that's why Bloody Mary mix is a popular order. And so is ginger ale on flights. Oh. Damn. I don't know why. Well, I will say the idea of orange juice and champagne does not excite me at all.

I affiliate it with like being a bridesmaid and getting ready the morning of the wedding. Yeah. And it's just i don't know i i don't find it exciting well it's also weird when you're adding something like if it if it were a liquor if you add juice to liquor that's good but champagne is champagne and then you add juice to it you're just diluting it yeah it's no good it's nothing to me well hey do we do these last do we do these last things and we'll get into final thoughts yes here we go why don't you do this we'll each do our final thought as we do

our shot so one at a time we'll talk through it you just say great order again gulp okay first Order again, Gulp. You go first, Mike. Order again. And there he goes. But this time, with a fireball shot. No! After the pickleback. How dare you? You did a fireball back!

That's called a fireball back, and you wish you could. No, it would be whiskey, pickleback, and then fireball. Michael. Tim, you go. It could happen. Okay, here we go. My final thought is, boom, order again. No appointment.

Delicious. Maybe my favorite drink we've had on the pod oh yeah shit i forgot to tap my thing uh so then you're null and void and for me i'm gonna say yeah it's an order again oh boy oh it took a big one that time and yeah you're gonna want to do it again ah but the pickle makes it nice feel that smooth oh yeah back on solid ground baby that's sort of the unsung hero of the pickleback shot no one's talking about the pickle juice you know yeah yeah yeah and i gotta say no surprise to anyone order every time again never order anything else look at her go pound the only drink there goes the pickle the only drink there you have it folks it's the only drink it is the only drink. It is the only drink. And I have to say, when I die, really do bury me with Jameson and a jar of pickles.

We will. It has brought me more joy in my life than anything else, any person. More than your roommate? What about the teachings of Del Close? mate what about the teachings of dell close when i tell you picklebacks are if i could marry pickleback your soul mate you can you can i mean these days delicious this is the best drink ever. And I'm going to eat this whole jar of pickles. McClure's.

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and questions for Lennon, our monthly bonus episode. That's patreon.com slash thesloppyboys. Thanks for listening, folks. We'll see you next week. Thank you, Francis. Bye. How do I sign out here without... Huh?

Just say thanks for having me. I had a good time no we're you had a good time no this is recording we're still going friend friend if you had a bad time you can say so now yeah if you can if you you can right now say erase my entire take. Yeah. We'll just play the episode. I thought Doug was talking to me as Fran, not Fran as a podcast. Not the character, not the Fran character. Oh, the character of Fran. Yes.

Thanks for coming on, Fran. This was great. Thank you, Fran. Please say hi to Lazy Guy, the lazy lizard who lives in front of your house. Thank you so much for having me. Of course. Uh-huh. What a fucking train wreck.

Well, geez, I think best guess because Gabrus didn't make a song. That's true. Yeah. All he talked about was Long Island. I don't understand if we're still recording. We are. Yes, we are. Do you want to shit talk Gabrus

and say that you were a better guest? I love Gabrus. I'm going to talk about my number one drinking buddy. I would have said his name first. There you go. Ending on a sweet note. Definitely.

He and I had some late nights nights fun nights drinking to be honest have you ever been to McManus together oh god oh god

oh Tim you motherfucker thanks everybody good night see you soon Tony I'm gonna watch another episode

thank you so much for having me promoting my favorite drink see you soon Tony I'm gonna watch another episode pish kipshage thank you so much for having me promoting my favorite drink and life partner hold on Fran where can people find you and do you have anything you want to plug honestly I was just so grateful to be on this podcast

drinking my favorite drink. Lazy Guy, check him out. Oh, yeah. Lazy Guy, check him out. Yes. And did you want to do a Tony Soprano impression? If you wanted to. This outro is like four and a half minutes.

It's longer than that. You said at the beginning before we record, you want to do your impression? You begged. Discussions. Yay! Bullying works. All right.

Toodaloo. Okay, we're done. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Give it up for your boys Give it up for your boys Give it up for your boys

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