The Sloppy Boys - 7. Brandy Alexander

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

Ready the nutmeg! The guys get a little fancy this time out, with an old-timey classic that "tastes like milkshakes."BRANDY ALEXANDER RECIPECognac - 1oz/30mlCrème de Cacao - 1oz/30mlFresh Cream - 1oz/30mlPour all ingredients into cocktail shaker filled with ice cubes. Shake and strain into a chilled cocktail glass. Garnish with fresh ground nutmeg.Recipes via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford and Tim Kalpakis and we're your hosts the sloppy boys what's up dudes hey not too much hi hi how are you hey i'm sort of doing a surfer cali thing how's it going everyone oh my god this is uh this is gonna be one of these character podcasts where you do a comedy character oh that would be cool hey yeah my character for the day is surf surf bod let call him. And he's got a real nice Surf Bod. And mine is Surf Bod 2, who appears with Surf Bod 1. Okay, so I'll kind of straight man you guys. No, no, no!

Now, wait a minute. Relax, man. Yeah, relax. You've got to relax. Why are there so many seashells in my car trunk? Car trunk? Man, what's up with SurfBot 1? Well, you'd think, you know, SurfBot is like, he doesn't surf very much.

What? It's just a bot. It's just more of a bot thing? He's just kind of around the beach talking to people and bothering locals. It's cool to have a flawed character. It's really three-dimensional. Yeah, well, when I saw Breaking Bad, I was like, oh, I get it now.

I'm going to use this for SurfBod 1. Okay, so SurfBod 1 is going to cook up blue meth. Now, Mike, I think that that is, you're kind of stealing a little too much from the show. Stealing his thunder. Hey, I got some booze news. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Oh. Now, every note, I mean,

I personally, you guys know that we established that you guys are like the Woodward and Bernstein, and I'm sort of like the editor. And I personally have been tracking this story, so this is more of a feature that I'm working on where I've been tracking the fireball eggnog. I had located it. Yeah. You've triangulated its position. I typed the address into Waze. And so I'm definitely hot on the trail. I'm going to go to Rosemead, California and buy this stuff.

But in the meantime, something else came to me from one of my reporters, Jefferson Dutton. You texted with a hot scoop that you had found about a certain brand new Bud Light seltzer. Yeah, baby. Whoa. There's a four pack coming out. Oh, Tim, you're really spraying this on me. I don't have have any info it's the ugly sweater collection or something right exactly it's the ring dong ding dong christmas times are coming yes many rings many dings and quite a few dongs but like they already had their white claw kind of a thing but now they're the first brand that go in into the holiday season, which, by the way, Merry Christmas to you guys.

Oh, and to you and yours. Happy holidays. Right back at you, T. They got into the, they changed the flavors up going into the holidays. And they're going to be the first company that says seltzer for the holidays. Jeff, you mentioned it. I don't like the name. The Ugly Sweater Pack.

Come on. Boo. That's, we know what's going on. I think that there were ugly sweater parties in 2007. And then now it's been like 10 goddamn years of like Target being like, ugly sweaters. Yeah, buy a brand new ugly sweater. And how funny is it that like now Bud Light is like, oh yeah, ugly sweat. Like they must have focus grouped

the hell out of that thing. Okay, so that's a dumb name, but I am intrigued by the product and we're going to have to dig deeper because here are the flavors. One, two, three, four flavors. Peppermint patty. Okay.

Not a fan. Ginger snap. That sounds like they're going to nail it. Apple Crisp. Pass. Wait, are these hard seltzers? These are hard seltzers, 100 calories. That seems like the closest in the seltzer world, a fruit.

Well, and then their final one, Cranberry, which is kind of a cheat because that was already in their packs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm intrigued by it. I think ginger snap will be the best. Apple would be fine, but saying apple crisp is fun. Or if they said crisp apple, I'd say, hey, you got me. Well, that's not what they mean, though. They mean like crumbly cinnamon. Yeah.

Like, why would you want bubbly water that reminds you of flour crumbles? Also, why wouldn't you just call it crisp Miss Apple? Michael, you should be, I told you, you would be so good at this type of thing. I'd be one of these madmen we're talking about. Yes, the madman. Get me down there. Get me down there right now. It is cool to try a winter seltzer because here I thought seltzer was a summertime thing and Bud Light

is saying, oh no, no, no, Jeff. Hold it right there, Jeff. The commercial for it is you kind of sitting there looking dumb like, eh. And I'm like, yeah, you know, seltzer's a summer thing. And you keep spraying. You're drinking a seltzer in the winter watching a commercial for the winter ones.

I'm doing what? Have you guys seen this commercial to go? Shingles is what? It's a funny commercial. Check it out. Made me laugh. And I don't really like laughing at commercials. Shingles is what?

Shingles. The disease is preventable. So they go, did you know that shingles is preventable? And then a lady goes, shingles is what? Tell you what, folks. I had shingles. It fucking sucks. then a lady goes, shingles is what? Tell you what, folks, I had shingles. It fucking sucks. I wish I had that.

You had what? For younger people, it's like a stress. It comes out with stress, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I think that you had a thing where your bandmates were kind of putting too much pressure on you to play the drums. Yeah. Hit the hi-hat.

No, no, now the bass. Hit this one now. No, no, the toms. Come on. Not that one at all. There's a commercial I like. It's also in the medical world for Cologuard. And it's the one with the little box, the little cartoon.

The mascot is a cartoon box who's walking around. And it's for colon screening. And what you do, and the box explains this, that the box comes to your house, you shit in the box, and send it back to the company, and they screen your colon. It's a colon screen that way. Shit in the box, don't tell the mailman. But the little mascot is the box who's talking to you. So he's like, hey, I'll come to your house. He doesn't say like, and then you shit in me.

He's like, I'll open wide. He's animated, and do they have like stink lines coming out of his mouth well he's talking to the humans and the humans should be like wolf you remind me of my feces get a breath mint box guys what are we talking about today well hold on that's that's it for booze news it up. Send it off on its way. That theme song is really catching on with everybody, by the way. Yeah, it kind of switches, and sometimes some of us do it, and sometimes everyone's doing it. That's why people like it.

It's like you make it your own. Yeah, do your own thing. We're talking about the Brandy Alexander today, folks. Here's what's happening. We're getting into the holiday season. There's a little nip to the air. Sorry. I see.

Coming around again, folks. Both of you guys have a little bit of frost at the end of your noses, I see. Uh-huh. Yep. And what did we say? The three of us, little tricksters that we are. We got something up our sleeve we said let's do for december let's do some kind of cozy holiday wintry drinks and we are gonna be uh looking into

some others but then we said let's kick it off with a a very traditional old classic from the IBA cocktail list entitled the Brandy Alexander. Yahoo! AKA the Alexander, but we're calling it the Brandy Alexander. Have you guys had one before? Go. No. No. Well, what are your perceptions, thoughts, feelings?

Oh, wait. Sorry. Sorry. One second. I haven't either. Oh, right. I almost Sorry. One second. I haven't either. Oh, right. I almost forgot to get him in. Surf bod one has never had

one. Nor have I, man. Surf bod two. Okay. Let me just give me a chance to straight man you guys real quick. No! Okay. Great. Okay. So maybe we won't hear from those guys ever again. Maybe we'll hear from them a lot

okay now the brandy alexander and i want to having you guys never tasted before what are your what are your thoughts perceptions connotations well i don't want to get into what it i think it's gonna taste like because i maybe i'll wait for you to say what the recipe is but i was picturing a very different drink. What were you picturing? I was picturing something that was like more of a old fashioned. Yeah. More liquor forward.

A brown, licorice glass of liquor. Sludge. Yeah. Looking at pictures of it, it looks like a creamier thing than I was picturing. And it looks smaller. I've never, I don't even think I've ever had cognac before.

So this will be a treat. Oh, cognac. You know, we've talked about this thing before, like how champagne is sparkling white wine that's from Champagne, France. And tequila is mezcal that's from five counties in Mexico. Cognac is a type of brandy. So brandy is the big overall term is brandy. And then cognac is if you're,

if it comes from cognac. And that is in the whiskey world? Great question. Tastes very whiskey-esque, but it's actually really kind of made more like a wine. It's from grapes and then they're distilled like way down. So it's in, and they're in oak barrel. So it's woody, but it's a little, I mean, it doesn't taste like wine. It doesn't taste grapey to me. I think it tastes like bourbon,

but maybe I don't have a very good palette. So when they say Brandy is the toy story liquor, it's a woody and gives you a buzz. Yes. That's why they do. Okay, good. That's why why brandy is the toy story liquor it is woody and it gives you a buzz it worked on me the second time i was researching this cocktail i couldn't find any information other than that okay so the brandy alexander i a year ago, I hadn't had one. And then I, I had

several last Christmas. Cause I said, I wasn't doing much for Christmas, staying in town. We had some family visiting and I said, every once in a while, I'll want to try a new spirit. So was the holidays were coming last year. I said, Hey, Timmy, what if you bought some cognac? Tim, I liked that each, uh, each holiday you try a new spirit. Sometimes I wish you'd try the Christmas spirit, you old Scrooge. Especially around the Christmas. I had a choice of every spirit

to... At this point, I'm starting to sound like Scrooge. Spirit. Oh, spirit. Spirit. Oh, geez. Well, show me next. Okay. Oh, spirit. Hey, did I ever tell you about Bob Cratchit? Yeah, you always... My doorknob talked to me when I came in, huh? He looked like Marley, I think. I don't know.

Yeah, Bob Marley. Bob Marley. Now there's a character. Now that's a video we're going to shoot. That's good. That's good. Stir it up? What?

Come on. No, so last year I'm saying I'm going to buy cognac. I'm going to have a bunch of cognac. And I bought it. I did like it. And I bought it. I did like it. And I tasted it and I said, this is kind of tastes like whiskey basically. But I had the snifters to drink it out of and I had some fun. But then I said, Tim, on Christmas Eve, you should make a cocktail for everybody.

We had family coming in from Dubai, you know, meeting a new brother-in-law guy from Egypt. And I said, I'll do a nice thing. I'll make a drink for everybody. And I Googled and the brandy Alexander was kind of like the most famous cocktail to make with a cognac. Ah, it's another simple guy too, for our simple listeners,

which I, yeah, the simpletons listen to this. If you try listing a fourth ingredient, they're like, what man? Yeah. Some of the simpletons hosting to find

it very nice. I think that, um, our listeners are, uh, uh, surf bud, uh, three through 3 million. Basically this drink is recorded. It's like a, this one's a very old gilded age drink, uh, early 1900s invented at, um, Rector's in New York, which is, uh, one of these big old, there were all these lobster palaces in Times Square where it was like giant restaurants where lobster, they were having a party because a railroad company had made an ad campaign for a railroad. And it was starring this fictional character, Phoebe Snow. and it was starring this fictional character, Phoebe Snow. Phoebe Snow was supposed to be like this Victorian proper lady who wears a white dress, but she can't go on the train because all the soot will get on her dress. So their ad campaign was about how this is a coal-powered

train that doesn't put a bunch of black shit all over your dress and then to celebrate the successful ad campaign troy alexander the bartender at rector's at the party invented a white cocktail that was phoebe snow themed and it was the alexander it's a corporate tie-in why didn't they name it the phoebe um i think it was because at the time friends was in pre-production and they didn't want to- Didn't want to step on any toes. Step on any of that. Wait, I'm sorry.

I don't mean to nitpick, Tim, but the thing was a coal engine wouldn't turn your clothes black? Yeah, because coal trains blew a bunch of smoke all over the place and people would step off the train and be all dusty. Covered in soot and shit. So why? So shouldn't she be covered in soot? No, that's the thing.

Any other train she would be, but on this specific railroad. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Company. They do something different. I thought they used a different form of fuel. Go ahead. It's like, it's like the smell good plumber. Whatever brand does that. It's just like, hey, you associate this line of work with this stench or this off

putting thing. Yeah. We don't do that. He's saying, we are part of an industry you hate, and it's shitty, but we're the one good guy. Gotcha. So then people love that cocktail. It's kind of known as the sweet, fancy drink. It is kind of a signifier of class. And Brideshead revisited the book,

and I think in the TV show, there's like an Oscar Wild wilde type dandy party boy who orders four brandy alexanders and chugs them all so it's kind of like a uh a classy fun kind of a thing okay but i kept coming across this one anecdote that was more interesting to me than any of that old-timey bullshit uh what what caught my attention is I remember watching the documentary about Harry Nilsson, you know, the singer songwriter. And there was a famous night during John Lennon's lost weekend where they went to the Troubadour and drank Brandy Alexander. So have you guys heard about John Lennon's lost weekend?

Oh yes. Yes. And it wasn't a weekend. It was like a year, but it was a year and a half. And Yoko was like, John, you're getting kind of weird.

Go out to Malibu or LA. Yeah. Have yourself a good time for once. Get away from me. LA County. Let's say LA County. Yeah. She said not Orange County,

not Ventura County. You better not leave that county. L.A. County. So he brings depressed John Lennon to the Troubadour to see a Smothers Brothers show. And then he says, hey, John, you got to try this drink. It's a Brandy Alexander. And then John Lennon tastes the Brandy Alexander. And he said, these taste like milkshakes.

These are delicious. And then he drank too much of them. And he made, these taste like milkshakes. These are delicious. And then he drank too much of them and he made a scene out of himself and he famously got kicked out of the troubadour. Oh baby. Dang. This is good for the pod. This is where we got to be. Yeah. And I love stuff that's good for the pod. I mean, that's ideal for me. Can all of our drinks have rock and roll backstories? Yeah. I heard this anecdote and I said to myself, I got to dig deeper. So, uh, I did kind of a cool thing. And I had been reading about this night at the Troubadour. I said, that's not enough for my pod. I want to

see if they have the surveillance tape from that night to really prove if this happened or not. And Mike, you helped me. We went down to Troubadour. We looked through hours and hours of audio tape. They have files for every audio for every night, which is a long time. That's pretty open. Yeah, so we had, our fingers were bare. But eventually we did find the tape from that night. It's infamously referred to as the Brandy Alexander tape. And we found it.

And I want to play it for you right now. Wow. And I don't think it's been published anywhere. So this is like the only time. Dang, that's crazy. Talk about booze news. This is a scoop. talk about booze news this is this is a scoop this is booze news so take yourself back to the to the early 70s troubadour west hollywood here it is the brandy alexander tape hey harry oh what's this drink you've handed me why these taste like milkshakes. Oh, give me another one. Hey, Smothers Brothers, you suck!

What? Hey, don't put your hands on me. Get your hands off of me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wazzle! They tasted like milkshakes. Like milkshakes, I tell you. Milkshakes!

I hope my wife Yoko doesn't find out about this. Can you believe that? We found that in a dusty old drawer. Oh my God, what a treasure. It happened so quickly. Yeah, I know.

His turnaround. I assume this was over hours, but apparently it was 30 seconds. He had his first one and a couple more and got kicked out and arrested all within 30 seconds. You heard the first one and a couple more and got kicked out and arrested all within 30 seconds. You heard the tape.

We looked at the tape. There was no edit point. There wasn't any editing. There was no stitching. This was it. There was no stitching anywhere. No stitching. We thought we'd find it.

And we went on a little jeweler's loop and we looked real close and found not one stitch. And now let's talk about what was in this cocktail that John Lennon tasted on that very night. Thank you. You're going to need three ingredients to make this bad boy. One ounce of cognac. Nice. One ounce of creme de cacao.

Got it. The dark stuff. Cacao. And finally, one ounce of fresh cream. Ooh, fresh. Yeah. Pour all ingredients into a cocktail shaker filled with ice cubes. Shake

and strain into a chilled cocktail glass. Garnish with a sprinkle of fresh ground nutmeg on top. You know, I mean, you could use normal nutmeg. You don't have to fresh grind, but I will say this. I learned, do you really want to

give this one a good shake? You're emulsifying the cream together with the other ingredients. Oh. So really just shake the shit out of it. All right. You know what I appreciate about this recipe is the math is cut and dry. Yeah, I love that. You're using the same thing. For my little pea brain, it just makes it easy. Equal parts. Say, hey, equal parts.

Well, how much? Oh, equal parts. So it could be as big as you want it. I mean, they're saying an ounce of each, but let's say you want to make this the size of a bathtub. You're going to go maybe for like a third of a bathtub amount. I might do a shot glass of each.

There you go. Yes. Yes, I think I will. Well, you guys want to get into it? I do. Let's do it. See you soon. Let's do it. See you soon. Let's do it.

Hey, we're back talking about the Brandy Alexander. You guys ready for those first sips? Yeah, let's try this fucking thing whoa yeah whoa that uh that leaves a little uh burned up throat for me see i'm yeah i thought this was gonna be i think the ones i've made in the past were too much of the creme de cacao because they were too sweet. This is, I like this. This is, it's very cognac-y. I think I did too much of the creme and it's a little too sweet.

I mean, this is, this is far from a milkshake. Yeah, what kind of milkshakes is Lennon drinking, man? Yeah, it does kind of like twist up the old face-y. What are you drinking out there, is that a wine glass um yeah it's not really a wine glass necessarily but it's it's a goblet of sorts yeah it looks very holiday-ish it's very nice the nutmeg's nice i will say the nutmeg so it's this drink it's creamy. It's thick. It tastes a little bit like a Tootsie Roll kind of a chocolatey flavor. T-H-I-C-C thick? Yeah, baby. Yeah.

Back this thing up. Into my mouth. And then the cognac is, you know, it's whiskey-ish, right? It tastes like, I wouldn't know that that's not bourbon in there, but it is good. You could make it with bullet. Yeah, you could make it with bullet. Ooh, this is okay. I don't know about this.

It kind of... Okay. It smells like eggnog. I think that nutmeg is like the defining ingredient of eggnog. Yeah. Unless we're talking, of course, fire of eggnog yeah unless we're talking of course fireball eggnog which has a certain different additive that we don't have to go into right now we will we will save it isn't nutmeg one of these things where if you just like eat a ton of it it gets you high

ah they say that about everything i well i think that marijuana is like that yeah you smoking over that stuff that, you smoke enough of that stuff. That's true. Especially the good stuff. Michael. Whoa, Mike. No, a lot of these guys, you'll get, somebody will try to sell you some crap. That's what they call it on the street. Hey, is this the good

stuff or is this crap? Now, Tim doesn't smoke weed, but he hates shake. Oh, how dare you even bring it up? The mere word. How can you hate shake? Shake. When I was making this, oh, the cacao. That's why.

I love the cacao. I love saying it. When I went to buy it at this liquor store, I asked the guy where it was and he pointed to it, and all the creme de cacao was, all the bottles were covered in dust. Yeah. Not a popular liqueur.

Fresh dust that had just fallen? It was old. It was old dust. Oh, they weren't sawing wood nearby? I'm like, how old is this dust right here? He's like, oof, that stuff's been here a while. It's before I started, man. Guy like me should probably dust that up.

Jeff, remember one time we were at Circus Liquors up in the valley? And you know that old, I think it's in Clueless. It's in a lot of stuff. You guys, people would recognize it. There's a big neon clown in the front. They should put it in a circus movie and they wouldn't have to cast one of the guys. No, one time we were there picking up a keg for a party and I was walking the aisles.

Yeah. You know, liquor stores in general, like true, just like liquor stores, not like, hey, it's a wine selection, but just liquor stores. They don't turn over their product on the shelves too often. Yeah.

Besides like you're talking about like the snacks. The snacks, exactly. You'll go in there and find some graham crackers from like eight years ago. We were finding a lot of things that look kind of old, and then the old... So I specifically was like, what's the oldest thing on here? And I started looking at the labels

and everything. But I like this business, so maybe we bleep the name of it. Or maybe we call them out. Maybe I ruin their business and I just live with it. Anyway, on the shelf, you know like a package of ice cream cones? Cake cones. Yeah, yeah.

Yes. The wafer kind of cone. The flat on the bottom ones. Flat on the bottom one. 1992. Get the fuck out of here well i can't believe people aren't going to the circus liquor to get their ice cream cones yeah hey kids you want a little treat get in the back of the car we're going to circus liquor you would think that somebody would have picked up uh ice cream cones in that amount of time they were

picking them up at other places, just not circus liquors. That's so funny to think of how long those were there. And I, you know, I would cut them some slack if it was like, you know, a year or something, but that just like it probably changed owners in that time. Whoa, Tim is done. See, I get what happened to Lennon. These things just slide right down my throat.

Should have made one and a half like the hand man. Yeah, you're smart with that middle goblet. I'm getting more used to it, but it still is. It's not. Each sip is still kind of like, whoa. I should have clarified up top. This is an after dinner drink. This is a dessert drink.

Why haven't you eaten dinner yet? No wonder I hate this. The experience is way off. Or it's a before dinner drink when you have a lot of room for cream in your – room for cream, not in the Starbucks sense. Oh, God. What a corporation. That's another corporation. I'm railing against corporations today.

But this is a drink if it were too sweet or if you tasted it and your note is, this is sweeter and creamier than I like, just know that you're supposed to drink this when you're celebrating a railroad ad campaign in 1916. And it's not meant to be like I'm wolfing down a burger and washing it down with this. Although. That wouldn't be bad either. Milkshakes go good with burgers. It sounds pretty great. But if you're at, if you're at that, that lobster emporium you were talking about, and this guy is making the drinks for you.

If somebody just made a drink, he's like, Hey, I just invented this. Try this out. And I'm a, I'm a big time bartender. Try this.

I wouldn't drink and be like, this is awful. You made this, this is called the Alexander. It was great. I love you. Yeah. You're not going to look him in the face and be like, I hate your creation.

I hate you. Which is sometimes when I'm praying, that's what I say to God. I've done that to other bartenders who I knew didn't make the drink themselves. They invented it. They gave me a drink and said, I hate you. Michael! I hate you. Do this to me. I hate it. I hate you. I hate you. this to me. I hate it. I hate it. You, I hate you. Um, so this lobster palace, right there, there was a, you know, the gilded age, New York of the late 1800s, early 1900s. It was all these like rich, they didn't have income taxes back then. So that's why the Vanderbilts and the

Rockefellers got so kind of damn rich. I say tax them, tax that ass, give us Medicare for all. Well, it's too late for those people. They're probably, they're way past Medicare times. But I read this very funny thing that around the turn of the early, uh, you know, 1900s, the, the, the thing, the, the cool kind of restaurant was a lobster palace. So in time square, they had all these giant lobster palaces where you, you'd go and eat lobster in time square. Hold on. When you say lobster palace. So in Times Square, they had all these giant lobster palaces where you'd go and eat lobster in Times Square. Hold on. When you say lobster palace, what's palatial about it? King Lobster lives there.

Oh, damn. I'm picturing a huge, a huge multi-tiered building. Yes. It's a huge giant. I mean, in these old timey pictures I looked at, it looked more almost like a wedding or an event. And you're like, that was just a normal night at a restaurant. This is no Long John Silver's. This is no Red Lobster. This is a palace. This is a palace.

This was fancy food for a fancy dude. But this specific place, Rector's, was like a hotel with his restaurant. It's at 44th and Broadway his rest it's now um it's at 44th and broadway and um you would it's now abc studios like where the the good morning america happens and you'd recognize the building because it's where it has this like like a ticker tape sign with scrolling uh stock and headlines and stuff yes and all that shit going on so uh i came across the name when reading about it they were bragging they're like re like rectors, you know, and you know, who ate there was diamond Jim Brady. Uh, have you guys heard that name before? Diamond Jim Brady? Uh, no,

I didn't put it together right away, but I was like, I do kind of remember diamond Jim Brady. What is that from? And I remembered from Lowry's, the prime rib restaurant in LA, their biggest cut of prime rib, that's like a double steak that's huge, is called the Diamond Jim Brady cut. And I was like, what's his deal with Diamond Jim Brady? And basically, he was a rich guy, a businessman in New York who got, he was just a fat guy who ate a lot and he ate so much that he got famous. So what's Diamond from? He wore a lot of diamonds when he got rich. He was a self-made

billionaire and he will go out to plays in, in New York. He'd go to Broadway and see whatever the new show was. And then if he, because he was like huge and fat and ate a lot, if he ate at your restaurant before he saw a play, that was like, he was literally a celebrity fat and ate a lot. If he ate at your restaurant before he saw a play, that was like, he was literally a celebrity. So I found this little thing here from, from the, uh,

a blurb about rectors that was talking about what he ordered. And they were so proud that he ate there. And they said the menu for his before theater dinner began with three dozen oysters followed by a dozen hard-shelled crabs then six fresh lobsters a rector's specialty a steak and for dessert pastries oh oh my god not one or two but the entire contents of the tray so he ate the whole pastry tray and i read about this guy and i was like this i want to know what he drank. Cause you know, this sounds like a great, like a sloppy boys guy. He drank 10,000 martinis. And it specifically said along with the food,

he drank carafe after carafe of orange juice. Oh boy. Oh God. He did not drink intoxicating beverages. Orange juice and seafood is disgusting. It's so gross. Orange juice in most dinners is not great. Craft after craft. God. Can you imagine on like three trays of oysters, you're dumping orange juice on it? I mean. Well, like that also just takes a long time to eat.

Yeah. Or were they, were they, was he breaking the oyster or breaking the lobsters up himself? Yeah. I mean, he probably showed up for dinner hours and hours before the play. I mean, how weird if you go, you imagine you go to the theater district and you want to see the new play and then you have six lobsters in your stomach and you're horny from the oysters and you can't see the stage on account of your boner. God, what was his name? Diamond what? Diamond Jim. Diamond Jim Brady. I wonder if Diamond Joe Quimby from the Simpsons comes from that. If they, if there was some weird connection.

Wait, is that Mayor Quimby's name? Yeah. They always call him Diamond Joe Quimby. Ah, maybe he's like rich from corruption or something like that and then the last interesting bit of uh trivia uh that i noticed when i was reading about this so what what was rectors and is now abc studios it fell into like disrepair for a little while in the middle there and in the 70s they shot um midnight cowboy there so the the grimy hotel that Jon Voight stays at when he comes to New York before he gets booted because he runs out of money. Here's my last point that's going to make you guys look at me and be like, Tim, you did it.

What's the big song from Midnight Cowboy when he's walking around this hotel? He Ain't Heavy, It's My Brother? Everybody's Talking at Me. Uh-huh. Performed by Harry Nilsson. Come on. Whoa. ain't heavy it's my brother everybody's talking at me performed by harry nelson come on whoa so so the very guy that gave the brandy alexanders to lennon uh he was singing in a movie that was shot at the place that invented the brandy alexander crazy i wonder if he knew that i'm sure that that's why he wanted it on the movie.

You guys are shooting a project in the former location of a hotel that invented a drink that I later gave to John Lennon? I just gave the funny beetle a bunch of them. He got kicked out. Ringo? Oh, I thought, who was John? I don't know. Paul's the cute one. Right.

Was John the quiet one? No, that was George. George. George yeah John was the brandy Alexander drinking one yeah they would say John was the brandy Alexander drinking one years later well I'll tell you these do get better as you go as yeah

the drunker you get the happier you get I agree with that hey you know what's funny about the Rectors thing? You said that's where ABC Studios is. It makes sense because every time you watch Al Roker do the weather, he always kind of starts like, does it smell like lobster in here too? Oh, hey, okay, we're back on.

Let's talk about the weather for you. Every time because I watch the show, and he does the weather multiple times per hour every day. Huh. Do the sound on on your TV, or? Oh, that could be it, because in the morning I have it muted. Yeah, check that. Well, folks, you know what time it is.

We'll be right back all right we're back guys what do you think about uh final thoughts on the brandy alexander oh the brandy alexandy as they. It's good. I agree. It's getting better as it goes on. Yeah, a lot of our drinks do. It's because it's trickling farther down your throat. If you don't like it, keep drinking it. Yeah. You know, will I order this again?

This is like if I'm at a holiday party and somebody's like, hey, we're doing Brandy Alexander's. I'll say, I'll take one of those. I'm at a holiday party and somebody's like, hey, we're doing Brandy Alexander's. I'll say, I'll take one of those. I mean, holiday spirit. I won't be a killjoy. I'll hop on board. Yeah, hey. And I had one of those with my old friends. God, that must have been

40 years ago now, right? Yeah, this is appointment only, this drink. This is like, somebody's made a plan and there's an occasion and we're going gonna have this down at old fuzzy wigs yeah or or whatever but i'm not i'm not off the cuff ordering this ever in my life right or you're coming to america to visit your brother-in-law tim and he said here's what we drink in america and i made a bunch of these and everyone went thank you I wonder if a guy, the guy, he was from Egypt, you said?

Yeah. I wonder if this is at all on their menus there or anything like it. I don't know much about Egypt or what they drink or eat, but. My understanding is it's mainly Alexanders of different sorts. I like this drink a lot. I think if someone handed me one on Christmas Eve, I would say, don't mind if I do. Yeah, I think this has got to be handed to me. You don't even say it out loud.

I mean, it's a joke in the Between Two Ferns movie that Zach orders one, and it's like he says Brandy Alexander, and then everyone watching laughs out loud. So that's not a good sign for you ordering one. But does it taste good? Yes. And does the nutmeg make But does it taste good? Yes. And does the nutmeg make it very holiday-ish? Yes. So if you're a person who maybe doesn't love eggnog and you feel left out of the creamy fun, this could be the drink for you. Wow.

I remember this drink from a Feist song. Yes. So I thought it was, because the lyrics are, he's my Brandy Alexander, always gets me into trouble, but that's another matter, Brandy Alexander. So I thought it was more of a wild,

you drink these and get yourself into a fist fight or something. Well, maybe it's that they taste so good and so deserty that John Lennon drank too many. So maybe they do have a reputation. You get hopped up on

cream and you start fights. You think I could... How much cream could you drink before you have a heart attack? You can't have this in your normal life, can you? Just drink cream all the time? Sure you can. You ever put cream in your coffee? Yes. Jerry?

Diamond Jim seemed to be doing alright. Yeah, but he died of being a fat piece of shit. Yeah, but he was also a billionaire. Yeah, that shit worked out for him. Well, that's it for the Brandy Alexander. Mike, what do you got for us? I cooked up a little quiz for you two.

Now, we're talking about the Alexander, the Alexander. I think we all know a very famous actor. Yes. With the last name Alexander. Jason Alexander? Jason Alexander. Yes. That's right.

And we know him mostly as the beloved character, George Costanza. Mr. Costanza. What about George? What about George? Yes. So I figured I'd put together a little audio quiz for you two. And you at home, listening at home or in your car or out on a walk. Maybe you got to walk with the dogs.

I don't know. Or you're looking at your sound system and you're just staring at the speakers and you got just blasting loud. As if each speaker, you got three speakers. It's like the three of us are there talking to you. Three of me goes. So I cooked up this little quiz and it is little audio drops of Costanza quotes. George Costanza, Jason Alexander. And I want you guys, once you hear it, buzz in and say what's happening in that scene, what

episodes it's from, anything, if you understand what it is. Oh, this is fun. This is good. So the answer can be anything. No, I mean yes, it could be open to anything. It could be George is talking. But I would give you the right one if it was like this is the episode when George is doing, but I would give you the right one if it was like, you know, this is the episode when George is doing this or what he's sort of referring to.

All right, let's begin. We'll figure it out. Let's play the first one here. Number one. Oh, hey, hey, hey, that's great. That's very nice. You know, we've been waiting 20 minutes for you people. What do you think, a Mussolini?

Back off, puffball. It's not my car. Wasn't talking to you. Buzz, buzz. George is wearing a big Gore-Tex coat after buying a black and white cookie, but he was parked in at the bakery by Saddam Hussein. That's very good, Tim. You got it right. The Gore-Tex coat, the whole thing. I'm not going to ding it. He did not buy the cookie.

That was Jerry bought the cookie. Oh, Jerry got the cookie. Yes, yes. It's the episode called The Dinner Party. Yes. Great episode. Timmy's on the board. I should write this down.

So Tim, that's one for Tim. And maybe make a little note there that Tim is on fire. Let's see. Tim, I maybe make a little note there that Tim is on fire. Let's see. Tim. I'll just write Tim O.F. Jeff is in the ditch. Jeff is. We're worried about Jeff.

Say that Jeff has been slumping, but, you know, nothing is over yet. He's due for a hot streak. That is for sure. Here we go. Number two. Yeah. Well, I had sex with your wife. Buzz?

Okay. I'm trying to picture the roomies in a way, but I do know that George was like, what's a good comeback for somebody? And then Kramer was like, just tell me you had sex with his wife or something. So I can't remember the total context, but I want to say it's the jerk store episode and he's in the conference room at the Yankees and he's eating a lot of shrimp.

That's right. That's right. Oh my God. That's right. Great quiz. Awesome. Now, Jeff. Oh, it's the quiz's fault, isn't it, Jeff?

Yeah, it is the quiz's fault. I thought yeah it is the quiz's fault i thought you knew more about steinfeld yeah yeah yeah and you jeff you call yourself a comedy professional and you haven't watched steinfeld chronicles all right this could be a sweep a sweep in the quiz maybe that's has that ever happened who knows knows? Here we go. Number three. No, no, no, no, no. It was not trash. Okay, Buzz. George Costanza has just eaten a chocolate eclair out of the garbage and he's being accused of eating garbage.

Real true story that happened to Larry David. That's right. Jeez, Tim. You have seen this show more than once. Jeff Larry David. That's right. Jeez, Tim, you have seen this show more than once. Jeff? Yeah, what's up? You got your work cut out for you here. I sure do. All right. Are you not remembering any of these, Jeff? No. You don't recognize any of them? I mean, I recognized the first one, but the rest of these are just like... Oh, boy. No, this is good. It's got a lot to do with the drink. It's really fun for everybody.

And everybody at home is understanding what we're doing. I think everyone at home loves it. They're happy for the boy, Tim. And they're thinking Jeff probably just talks too much weed to remember. All right. Well, we got,

uh, let's see. That was number three. We got plenty left here on the quiz. Six more here on the quiz. The name of the show. Here we go. Number four. Check in left here on the quiz six more here on the quiz the name of the show here we go number four check in next time on the quiz hello rumple metallic swing i go on someone crying out dear god that made me laugh because it sounded funny but i did not recognize even a word i didn't even i couldn't get like not only did i not recognize it from the show but i didn't recognize them as

english words oh is it too low it was it was low but like let's do it one more time. I got it. Here we go. A low rumple. Metallic swing. I go on. Someone crying out, dear God! Okay, I'll say it. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Sam, if you get this. A low rumple. This is George.

Yes. Recounting what happened on the tape. When his briefcase comes back damaged, he leaves a tape recorder in it to see what happened to it. And he's recounting what he hears on the tape. Great. Very entertaining stuff. I have a feeling.

I have a feeling that our listeners are saying, this is really fun. I'm hearing George. George is fun. Yeah. I remember Seinfeld. Yeah. Well, people like to watch Seinfeld,

so they probably enjoy these clips more than they enjoy the rest of our podcast. Yeah. Number five. Shut your traps and stop kicking the seats! We're trying to watch the movie! And if I have to tell you again, we're going to take it outside and I'm going to show you what it's like! You understand me?

I'll shut your mouths or I'll shut them for you. And if you think I'm kidding, just try me. Try me. Because I would love it! Jeff. Nice. This is that hilarious episode where, like,

George is in a movie theater and there are these people sitting behind him who keep kicking his seat. Yeah, Jeff. Oh, Jeff! Oh, Jeff, you've made me so happy today. Hell yeah!

You nailed it with context clues, see Jeff? You don't have to, you can just be smart. Yeah, this is like when they tell you on standardized testing that you can actually find some of the answers in the test itself. You have to decode. Mike, what movie was it? Rochelle Rochelle? Was the name of, oh, that they're watching? I don't know. I just found the clip. Fair enough. I love the fake.

Well, also, Seinfeld will mix real movies with fake movies. Yeah, because the English patient, and they're like, let's go see Sack Lunch. Sack Lunch is the funniest. It's like, so you have the English patient. They make Sack lunch sound so dumb.

Because Elaine wants to see it. She's like, how'd they get in there? Is there something, I could be making this up, but when she's like watching sack lunch, she's like, no, get out of there. He's like, I got another sack lunch or something very dumb. I remember them wondering like, are the people shrunk down or is it a big bang?

Yeah. Okay. Here is number six. Count a clockwise swirl. Jeff. Yes? This is the move. Yeah! Very nice!

Oh, damn! So wait, I want to make sure I get it right though. George stole Jerry's move? He was letting him- Or did Jerry steal George's move? George stole Jerry's. Yeah, so do I get it? Yeah, oh you got it. But then doesn't George separately have a really bad move that like involves a lot of knuckles?

Yeah, yeah. It's like something and then a twist or something. Yeah, his girlfriend's like, ugh, terrible move. Folks, we're talking cunnilingus. Yeah, that's, you know, it was amazing. This show could talk about this type of stuff. That was one of those, like, I would watch it as a kid and be like, I don't think I know what's going on here. Oh, like the master of my, master of his domain.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was also the one, the saxophone player, where it was like, he doesn't actually do everything. Right. That one, I really was like, he doesn't actually do everything. Right. That one, I really was like, well. Mom. I don't know. Is he talking about 69?

Okay. Here we go. Hey, we're pretty close here. It's four to two. Wow. T versus J. Four to two. This is a come from behind.

Could be a come from behind. This is a Cinderella story. Yeah, we'll see. Here we go. Number seven. I'll tell you something. I wish there were pigment. from behind could be a come from behind this is a cinderella story yeah we'll see here we go number seven i'll tell you something i wish there were pigmen you got a few of these pigmen walking around suddenly i'm looking a lot better i want someone to fix me up they could say hey at least he's no pig man i remember the pig man at the hospital. So why are they at the hospital?

Is it to watch the junior men's surgery? No, it's because of Ass Man. I think Ass Man is involved. They, no. Ass Man might be later. That was the last one was from Fusilli Jerry, where. Oh, you're right. Somebody sits down on the thing. Duddy, do you know this one?

No. They were there for, I think, their friend who was having a baby. Their friend has an ugly baby? Is that maybe it or something like that? That actually comes in, I think, in the next one. Kramer gets the pig man out of the hospital. Yeah, Kramer thinks he sees a pig man like being

like he thinks scientists are making a pig man in the hospital. And George is saying he wants to be a pig man. That point goes to no one. That one goes to me. I'm taking that one home. You shouldn't get any points for this quiz. Yeah, you have a little bit of an advantage. And here is number eight. I think that you think that a certain something is not all that it could be. When in fact, it is all that it should be and more. Jeffy.

Yeah. Shrinkage. That's the famous shrinkage. I mean, what else is it? Oh, that it could be and more. Damn. That's a good episode, baby. Even I know it.

Jeff's back on board with the quiz. He likes the quiz. I've always said you have the best quizzes. All right. This was what I was going to use for the tiebreaker, but Tim is technically winning four to three, but Jeff, if you get this... It's the tie maker.

Whoever gets this wins the whole thing. Let's say that. Okay. All or nothing. Oh, my God. My backbone is longer than it's supposed to be. It's like a genetic abnormality. It's a vestigial tail.

Shallow Howl. Yeah, Tim got it. No, really? Yeah, Jason Alexander plays Jack Black's buddy in Shallow Hell, who uses a weird accent. Or is that his real voice? I was going to say it didn't. I was like, is this like season one or something? Like, has he not found the character yet? What is this? He kind of did in the pilot of Seinfeld. He did like a Woody Allen impression sort of. But him in Shall shallow. I mean, I think people have pointed out shower house, the worst movie ever, ever. It's it, what, even now you're watching, you're like, I can't believe they made something this mean and sizist and problematic, but even in its

day, it was unfunny and hated. Yeah. I remember seeing it. I saw it in the theater with my like mom and maybe extended family. Even we were like that was bad cool jack black was like the hot indie comedian so cool they gave him a starring role farrelly brothers hot off of uh all their shit something about mary but also like jack black he looks they give him this weird hairdo he's got like long sideburns and he just like looks kind of like an elvisy guy it's a little confusing whether we're because he's vain but it's a little confusing whether we're, because he's vain, but it's not really clear whether we're supposed to think of him as handsome or not, you know?

Right, right, right, right. I don't know. Well, that was Shallow Howe. Tim, the Jason Alexander Brandy Alexander quiz goes to Tim on this one. You gave up a good fight though. That was great. That was a good quiz. I. That was a good quiz.

I think that was a good quiz. No, the quiz was bad. But it's fun, though, because you get the drops, the audio drops. Yeah. Also, sometimes a bad quiz can still be an awesome pod segment, is what everyone's thinking. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll have to put it out there.

If you think this was a good quiz, let us know. If you think it was a bad quiz, you don't have to tell us. You can email me personally. Well, folks, let's read some mail. Oh. Jared asks. This better not be Jared Kushner. Hey, Sloppy Boys.

Were any of you fans of beer pong in your younger days? If so, what was your preferred variant and any good stories from playing it? Thanks, Jared Kushner. I would have said yes, but I don't know what a variant is. So maybe I'm a poser. Yeah, what's variant? I think he means like the sort of regional things where it's like, you can't blow in the cups. You can't play defense.

It's like, whatever. Also, the hardcore people play with paddles. Like back in the day, they would play. You wouldn't touch the ball It's like, whatever. Also, the hardcore people play with paddles. Like back in the day, they would play. You wouldn't touch the ball. You'd paddle it. And Beirut is the one where you're throwing. And then that just sort of became. I'll say this.

No variant, because I love playing it, but I blissfully never paid attention to any of it. Like my friends would be like, re-rack them at three, seven, and nine, and all this stuff. And I just never paid attention. I was okay at getting enough of an arc to the ball to get it in, but I never paid attention to the rules once.

Yeah, I'm so happy to let the home team kind of pick the rules and just go with the flow. I hate getting into pissing contests about what you can and can't do. It's just like, decide what you can do and play the fucking game. Right. Beer. Anytime I'm playing a or anytime I would be playing a drinking game or something and people would be like, OK, that's yeah, that's two drinks for you to two sips.

Or it's like people who are counting how much you're drinking. It's like we're all just kind of here drinking and having fun. Yeah, it's not a punishment. You're here to get drunk. Relax, man. It's really easy to be a buzzkill when you, when you get too crazy into the games. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say this in the COVID times, I would love to play beer pong. That just sounds like such a blast. I want to share some saliva. Oh my God. I enjoyed, I enjoyed playing beer pong. It was one of those things. I have the same problem with bowling where like the first time I did it, I was, uh, I had a good game and then I think I'm good at it. So I'm like, yeah, I'll jump, let me jump. I can jump on your team. I'm pretty good. And then like not really produce and I'm like, okay, well that, you know,

that's, uh, it's not like me. I've never really, uh, crapped out too hard in beer pong, but I've definitely been the guy in flip cup that everyone was like, come on, Tim, what the hell are you doing? You held up the whole team. I can go either way on flip cup. It's,

it's, I can really screw that up bad. Now, Jeff, you said a moment ago that when you play beer pong, you don't want to get into a pissing contest, but it's interesting. It's kind of the exact opposite when you're in the bathroom,

right? Oh yeah. That's, that's where I shine. You come into the bathroom exact opposite when you're in the bathroom, right? Oh yeah. That's, that's where I shine. You come into the bathroom with me and you're going down. Hey, want to see who can pee more? Hey,

share my toilet with me here. Here we Jefferson done. Of course. I've been in a bathroom where I'm peeing and somebody throws a, a ping pong ball in toilet. I got to drink it. I was like, what?

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