The Sloppy Boys - 71. Sazerac

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

The guys celebrate Mardi Gras with "the official cocktail of New Orleans"-- a traditional cognac drink that became even more popular when prepared with rye whiskey.SAZERAC RECIPE1.66oz/50ml Cognac*.33oz/10ml Absinthe2 dashes Peychaud's bitters1 sugar cubeRinse a chilled old-fashioned glass with absinthe, add crushed ice and set aside. Stir remaining ingredients over ice in a mixing glass. Discard the ice and excess absinthe from the prepared glass, strain the mixed drink into the glass. Garnish with lemon twist.*Today, rye whiskey is most common.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. I can't think of anything. And Tim Kalpakis. What is up? Marty Grah style-ies, Mike. Woo! Da-da-da-da. can't think of anything and tim kelpack is what is up mardi gras stylies i'm throwing the beads over here

okay throwing the beads that sounds good but why would you can call me out by so paul simons the new yorker and then he made a south africa themed album uh-huh i just don't see why that i just i just feel like those horns are the horns marty groff stylies you're right when you're right you're right to me to me i've never been to marty groff all we ever see is a sax but i'm hearing brass in there me too sure you don't think that chevy chase was really playing that saxophone in that music video hey did you know chevy chase was uh the drummer in uh steely dan for a little bit like the early before they were like uh making records and stuff yeah because he went to bard and they went to bard bard you went to bar let's see see. Okay. That checks out.

Yeah. We should go to Bard, huh? I did an open house. I took a little tour of Bard one time, but I said, no, Ithaca College for me. I'm going to say Bard is in Maine. Am I right? Hudson Valley, New York. Upstate.

What am I thinking of? You're probably thinking of a lobster trap. Yes. Yes. Yes. yes, yes. The one I couldn't get into. Trying to get in. Oh, guys, you know, a little update. We did the horse neck last week.

Did we ever. Delicious. Oh, yeah. And on that episode, I claimed when I had people over, I was going to make that because it's a fun, easy drink. I had people over for the Super Bowl. I did that. I'm making drinks for them. Did they like it?

Oh, yeah. You know what I learned? What I couldn't articulate, Tim, why it's not a five-star Stone Cold Classic for me. Oh, yeah. Stone Cold Classic's bad. Is in a mixing scenario, in a mixology scenario,

I'm always going ginger beer over ale. Give me that sweet, give me that spice, give me that carbonation. Everything nice. I bet you if I made a horse's neck with beer instead of ale, it would be five stars for me. Of course ginger beer is going to be better than ginger ale, but don't you like the ease? Don't you like the idea that you could just... Not of course.

Tim, no. Take that gun and a little bit of... That's not a given. That's not a given. I'm an ale over beer freak. Okay, but what do you like better? Ginger ale from the gun

or Angostura bitters? Or do you like a little... Oh, yeah. Is that the gingy? That one's Bud Light Next, baby. Our new sponsor. I couldn't tell. Forgo the whole thing.

How do you do that, Jim? You put, you slap your tongue on the bottom of your mouth. And you shape your mouth. Here's me trying. Tim on timothy i was trying to put your pants on whoops oh yeah baby um and well hanford you mentioned the uh super bowl which

was uh last week and uh didn't it felt like they came on real strong with the Bud Light Next promos. And it was funny to me that they were doing that Gen Z thing. They really think the kids weaned on White Claw are going to switch over to Bud Light Next. You're weaned on White Claw. Right. When you were weaned on White Claw, now you're on Gen Z. For me. Me. That's what I drank yeah man because you know you start drinking on the at the super bowl like 3 p.m you know well this is going

to go until midnight yeah and uh you're playing it safe you're playing it safe with the next it's good it's a smart move yeah i gotta go easy with especially. When I watch football, I'm looking at the screen, but the information that's on the screen isn't really making its way into my brain. So I got to be careful with the drinks, because otherwise I'll just sort of drink myself into a slumber. I see, I see. A little hunk shoe, hunk shoe. I was singing a song there that made me think of Mellencamp.

Who do you think is Gen Z's Mellencamp? Gen Z's Mellencamp. Yeah. Is that Gale, you think? Probably Jack Harlow. I think it's Gale. I think it's Gale. Can't get enough of that golden Gale.

I think to define Gen Z's Mellencamp, we would have to figure out gen z's springsteen and probably gen z's uh uh who's the man morrison if you're going back that far who's the detroit uh silver bullet rocker guy that i love uh seager seager so maybe olivia rodrigo is uh is is uh seager is Seeger, and then Gale can be Mellencamp. Well, wait, who's the Sprungstein? Maybe Springsteen's daughter, the horse racer. Yeah, she probably hums his tunes while she's horse racing around. Hey, I'm proud of you. Thanks, Dad.

Baby, I was born to run on a horse. Run atop a horse i don't know it's up to him uh uh i just got a glimpse of myself in my own video square and realize i i put this on 12 hours ago and forgot i'm wearing a Mardi Gras shirt. Jambalaya. Yeah. What's that? Shrimp and Tabasco. Shrimp and Tabasco. And it looks like lemon wedges. Orange slices?

Yeah. They should be lemon slices, but they're orange. That's kind of weird. Was this part of the, are those peppers too maybe on there? Fill out some negative space. It looks like a purple jelly bean. Fill out some negative space. It looks like a purple jelly bean. That's what my, you sound exactly like my urologist.

Anyway. What are these two purple jelly beans down here? Dude, Doc, we got a problem. The shirt there, Tim, was that part of your big Depop haul? It was. Your Tabasco haul. What was funny about my Tabasco Hall was. Did that come from Sopranos? Because I saw Tony in a Tabasco shirt at one point.

Well, that's what inspired it, right? I saw that episode of the Sopranos and said, that's a great shirt. Then I looked online and I saw there was even like blog posts about what a great shirt that was. But it's a hard shirt to track down. So I thought I would never find the exact shirt. I go on Dep depop i order a bunch of tabasco shirts like five thinking i won't get the exact one i'll get a bunch and then i eventually found a shirt that was pretty much almost exactly that's not it though right not this is not it no i got one that's just the red chili peppers but it's still it's still not exactly tony's but either way in in my journey to get to the closest one i ended up with a lot of uh runners up i mean who's

who would have thought you'd have five or six runners up of tabasco specific these are these are tabasco brand like made by like sold at gift shops at at hot sauce stores. But this shirt, usually I like them, and I'm happy to have bought them. But this one, this is a big, you know, it's a big, large polo shirt. But then the band on the armband is kind of tight, so it's giving me these blousy sleeves. You see that? It kind of, the elastic holds on the bicep, and then I have a big ruffle. You have a big ruffle, a big buncher.

Ruffles have ridges. What's going to happen this spring when you start getting your beach bod? Every spring you're in the gym six days a week pumping, pumping, getting ready for the gym. This is my big concern. Instead, I've been hitting the donut shop all day trying to make sure I don't get my beach bod.

Donut. Donut. Donut shop. You know we were talking about donuts back in the fall Episodes of this podcast I really haven't gotten on my Donut game Donut game is not strong? Not strong with this one

I thought I would But I don't know where any donuts are I really don't find donut shops easily Well New York is not a donut town Mike Maybe head out to Jersey. I've been eating my apple fritters pretty regularly over here at Daily Donut.

They're great. Really? And the armbands are still loose. I had some of that Colorado donuts from Eagle Rock. Aren't those bull testicles? No. Anus? Yeah, anus. Isn't a Denver oyster like a bull testicle wait yeah what is a bull testicle uh yeah yeah yeah a rocky mountain oyster rocky mountain oyster rocky mountain yeah

a colorado donut please oh sir um remember we used to sometimes uh go to california donuts at like 4 a.m in hollywood when the donuts were still hot because jack allison lived right by california donuts and if you had a party sometimes it'd be like 3 30 you're like i'm gonna go home and then you're like no if i wait till four it was like the first the first they had like just opened right yeah they're coming right off a conveyor belt and they're so good. It's early enough. There's not a lot of customers around, so they let you lie down and just let them all go. They feed them right into your mouth.

They hit you in the forehead. Most of them, you get one bite, and most of them kind of hit you in the face. They roll away. The glaze is all over your hair. Oh, well, time to go home and shower. Well, this sucked. You know what doesn't suck? What's that? Bip, b-b-bip, boop, bap.

Bop it! Oh, hell yeah. Is that Tony Jackson? Oh, yeah, baby. Tony Jackson oh yeah it's booze news you lovely people. Sit, Booze, sit. Good dog. Hey.

Hey, yeah. Oh, shit. That was a Sloppy Boys NBC News theme by the Kanger, King Kang. Hey. And if you have a Booze News theme, email it to the sloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. That's great. That was a good one. Metal.

Yeah, he might play that. I think he's... Yeah, I bet he does. He's a metal guy. He's a metalhead. And that new... I specifically picked that newsy one because he was doing the NBC news theme

for hard-hitting news for today because I would say we legitimately have something very cool, guys. Oh, whoa. You ready for this? This is rare, yeah. This is us blowing something wide open. I think that there's some small news outlets have sniffed on this, but we're about to go big.

I got something the big news outlets can sniff on. Fuck those guys. They're all corporate-owned. And do you like corporate shit? Not all the time. Not particularly. Not all the time. Okay.

Well, later on we'll get into which circumstances you like corporate shit. When it serves me best. But recently here in Booze News, guys, we were talking about fireball. Mike, you love fireball. You like to do fireball shots at the end of the night you like to get the party started i like to do it with the beginning of the night beginning of the morning beginning of the morning hands get a little shaking when you're having your cereal a little cinnamon fireball over the top um no but um so i was talking about

i was in upstate new york over christmas and my sister and her boyfriend were telling me about how fireball nips are now available at all the bodegas and the little convenience stores and stuff and we here were talking about like why is that right those those little convenience store those stores in new york new york's very regimented you go to liquor for a liquor store wine for a wine or whatever and these these markets that had just beer were selling beer and then also Fireball. And we were like, did the law change? Was there a new product?

What the fuck is going on? Or is because they are sold in small volumes, is that a contributing factor? Yes, is it the small little nip? Because it's specifically the nip. I was curious about this and then uh kanger who made that theme tagged me in something on our sloppy boys discord an article from times union so this is like the albany newspaper a small upstate news outlet saying that yes a year ago

saying that yes a year ago fireball actually did put out a different product and it's a malt version of fireball um and they're kind of being being intentionally deceptive because it looks very much the same right but they wanted to have something that could be available. So I read this article and then I go, I got fireball nips in my cabinet. Um, I go in my kitchen. I, I did honestly actually gasp at those guys. I reach up into my cabinet and here is a,

is a nip that I bought at a liquor store in, uh, California. See that it says fireball up top. And then it says cinnamon whiskey yes what's the proof oh and the proof jefferson is the proofs in the book i'll call 33 by volume 66 proof great yeah because they want to do the 666 type the old lemieux yes fireball cinnamon whiskey now right next to it guys yeah i had a nip that I had bought in New York at a bodega.

A New York nip. A New York nip. Hold it up. Take a look at this. Fireball cinnamon. Ah. So the other one is fireball cinnamon whiskey. This one is just called fireball cinnamon.

What's the proof? And this is, doesn't't say that on the front, it says malt beverage. Fireball Cinnamon Drink. And I'm looking around back, 16%. 30 proof. 16 and a half percent.

So 33 proof. So it's half. Half proof. That's like a schnapps. Yes. And so the distinction is not just, it's not just about your proof, but it's that convenience stores can sell things. They can't sell things that are distilled.

They can sell malt products. So they can sell beer, White Claw, and this malt version. And what's very deceptive about it to me is i'm tasting them back to back and mike i wonder if you you probably are buying these interchangeably because they're both available by you but yeah i wonder i can't remember where the the last ones i got yeah i just took a sip of the cinnamon whiskey and it's got that burn not just the cinnamon burn but like also a whiskey burn to it when i have a a taste of the malt one it's like cinnamony burn and no whiskey burn and it's like it's like i'm drinking wine or

something it's way it's more just like it's more like a can do they taste what does one taste more candyish than the other? Yes. Cinnamon. The malt one tastes like it's for kids. It is very gentle, cinnamon, and it's crazy because I then Googled around. They said this is a little scam a lot of places have been running. There are bottles of wine at gas station. The brand name will be Chardonnay, but it's not chardonnay wine you look closely and it's a malt beverage man that's tricky so this whole world tim it's funny you say it's almost like wine because i'm seeing here on the fireballwhiskey.com frequently asked questions page

it says somebody asked how is fireball cinnamon different from Fireball whiskey? And the answer is Fireball cinnamon products include malt-based and wine-based, currently in Oregon only, alcoholic beverages, whereas Fireball whiskey is whiskey-based. So what you're drinking is malt-based, but just for Oregon, for those laws, they have a wine-based Fireball cinnamon. So Fireball is just, they want to maximize their sales. So whatever the state's deal is, they're like, we'll make a weird little product for your weird little state. You know, wow.

They say that's true about like outlets too, like Gap Outlet and J.Crew Outlet. You think you're getting discounted versions of the normal stuff, but they're actually designers and there's a pipeline for lesser quality, let's say, products made exactly for the outlets. No shit.

Is that why you can get a pair of Levi's jeans and it's like, oh, this fits me well. And then you go to a different store and get the same Levi's number and sizes and stuff. You're like, hey, this sucks. Maybe. I look like a dumbass. Levi's in particular i've

heard is just like really you got to try them on like they're yeah all over the place you gotta try i used to always wear 501s and remember when we all lived yeah right on top of the bvds of course but then i wore them i'd wear a pair of 501s every day and then the the crotch would always blow out in the same spot. Yeah. A little hole. And then ain't no fixing it. You're fine. Ain't no fixing it. Oh, I was going to say something. This is about the Fireball.

First of all, those are both Fireball brand, right? They're not doing like a Chardonnay thing. It's like it's not a. Fireball brand, yes. It's the same company. So the thing I saw in my grocery store in the beer aisle, it was like a Fireball like five a pack of five-ounce bottles. Is that the next size up from like a nip?

Sure. So I wonder if they... Like a half pint or something? Flask size, yeah. But I wonder, I mean, that must have been the malt because they couldn't have sold it then, but why did they go so big? Well, look at this size. I was curious if I had anything else

in my little cabinet that I had bought in New York, and I found that at a bodega, I bought this Southern Comfort SoCo, and I'm looking close to the fine print, malt beverage. What's the proof? Give me the proof. Give me the proof.

I'm not even finding i'm not even finding the proof on here but i'll tell you what both of these products guys this this is great fireball brand and soco brand they're both owned and made by what big booze conglomerate the sazarac company what now wait a minute wow what now wait a minute this was uh this is some real real investigative uh booze news yeah it's happening right here this is right under your noses this is great this isn't like oh look i tried a new seltzer and i got one or i got here the books and tv shows i'm watching this is good and uh dutton's delightful dutton's delights oh yeah is it delights or delightful delightful delightfuls were my turkey burgers oh oh pre-pod well um what about your um uh corey's angels type dancers

those are just delights also wait so dunn's delightful's were turkey burgers yeah yeah yeah that's what cass that's what cassidy called my turkey burgers one time yeah that was in an email i remember that oh some dunn delightful's dunn you can always count on jeff for getting a turkey burger or Yeah, I feel like that was in an email. I remember that. Ooh, some Dutton Delightfuls. Dutton, you can always count on Jeff for getting a turkey burger or a turkey sandwich going. Oh, yeah. He loves tryptophan. I eat turkey sandwiches most days.

Made with monster cheese. Mike, you know me too well. Yep, I do. See, I'm going Swiss. Jeff wants monster. Tim, what's going Swiss. Jeff wants Munster. Tim, what's your cheese, dude? What's your cheese, man? American, baby.

On a sandwich, American cheese. American cheese. Now, is that like the singles? Like the Kraft Singale? Yeah, but not individually wrapped. Monterey Jack to Cheddar and Beck. Why did you say Singale? You said singles, and then you said Singale. I'm feeling like, here I'm talking about cheese.

I'm asking about cheese. I gotta spice it up somehow. What can you do? You can't. Well, is that it for booze news? Rip it up. Yeah. That's good. Didn't you just kind of make that sound with your mouth? Yeah. Not two seconds ago? Yeah. I can didn't you just kind of make that sound with your mouth? Yeah.

Not two seconds ago? Yeah. I can't tell the difference. That's how fast I am on the keys. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. You got a soundboard there? Kind of. You got a soundboard and I soundboard.

Come on, let's get into the drink. You do soundboard. Okay, you want to get into the drink of the day yeah baby yes well let me paint a picture ready it's the spring of 2015 okay a young hot shot comedy writer is in new orleans now this is before he's uh even received his emmy nomination before he's received his two writers guild award nominations but after his ifc show was canceled so he's kind of rambling around yeah rudderless rudderless you know you know that feeling when your ifc show gets canceled yeah you guys You guys know. And none of your,

I just need to ask this, none of your family was in New Orleans at the time, or this person's family was in New Orleans at the time? This person's girlfriend, soon to be fiance at the moment, was shooting a YouTube travel show in New Orleans, so this person went there because there was a free hotel room to hang out at. Yeah.

Sure. But, but, but I just do really want to get this question answered about the family. You didn't have any of your male family with you. Okay. So that you were, this person was utterless and brotherless.

Okay. Oh, it was a rhyme. He was working. No, no, just, Oh,

I guess I did rhyme kind of, you know what? Uh, but this person's brother is like, is currently in New Orleans on a trip right now. That's interesting. Jeff Galpakis is in New Orleans? Wow, we don't know. There hasn't been the reveal yet.

We don't know who's him. True, true, true. Okay, so let's go back to this rambling boy. And on this particular afternoon, he's in the middle of what was soon to be be known as the great southern saunter an accidental right 17 mile stroll right well you know i think i know this person is i feel like i have it but yes he was hopped up on aphrodisiac oysters and kind of clowning around and accidentally walked uh miles. But he stops into the Hotel Monteleone.

What a prank. Yeah, he got you. He stops in the Hotel Monteleone, like this historic hang of writers, Tennessee Williams, William Faulkner, Truman Capote, and this guy, probably the biggest writer of them all. He sits at the carousel bar. By Mass alone.

Go ahead. Yes, that's what I meant. I guess I've cut you. You're doing a thing here. The physically largest writer to ever walk into that room. No ass, no matter. Album title. He sits at...

Look, if you've seen Girls Trip, you know the carousel bar, and you know it rotates around where you're drinking. And this guy had heard it's fun because it's like takes 16 minutes to do a lap it's the perfect amount of time for one round and he's drinking by himself so he's like i want to keep moving so i'll do it right around here he looks at the menu and says i want to get a new orleansy thing and he talks to the bartender and says what's a new orleansy drink to get and he selects a drink. And I'm here to tell you that that boy was none other than me! And that drink

was the Sazerac you've had! Never had. You've heard. Never have heard. I've heard. Never had, you've heard. I've heard the same rudderless, unsupervised writer man would go to hell and back for one of these.

Oh, hey, we should play Tom Collins at the end of this episode. That'd be nice. That's got a nice little Sazerac reference. Yeah, that'll pad things out nicely. Oh, yeah. People just want minutes, minutes, time. That'll get us to the 60-minute mark. And 58 with editing.

Get us to the 60-minute mark. And 58 with editing. But what do you guys think when you think of the, is there, I just told you it's a New Orleans-y thing, but does it come up? Do you see it around? Do you have any thoughts about who drinks it and where they drink it and all this shit? I know Sazerac as a brand, like you mentioned before. I kind of knew it as a brand, and I was surprised that it was a cocktail first and then a brand. I'm not sure if that's true, though.

I don't know the history. Hopefully, I'll be enlightened. I will. Yeah, it seemed to me like kind of a SoCo brand. Oh, yeah, because SoCo kind of almost is like a sweet whiskey treat. Like something kind of newish, a a sweet whiskey treat like like uh something that got like something kind of newish not like that no um new age yeah new age um well it's not diageo oh i wish my god um well here there's the old story that has kind of been proven to be a myth is a fun one though

for the sazerak it's like the story was that the the pay showed's guy did it you know um pay showed's bitters that kind of do whatever the spicy little red little dash spicy little zinger yeah yeah spicy little little dasher uh you know it's kind of some say it's angus or his spicy red little zapper cousin yeah um well uh pay showed was like a haitian guy that came to new orleans and he would he made those bitters and he was like a an apothecary you know like a drugstore medicine man when that stuff when there was like no science to any of it you just kind of snake oil swindling little yeah so towns pay showed the bitter was like a snake oil like an all cure all thing he was selling it at his, like, the merchant

exchange shop, but then he started putting it into cognac and making a drink to give his friends, and then one of his friends started serving it at the Sazerac coffee house, and here's the funny thing. This story that was in a famous cocktail book, it

said he served this cocktail in an egg cup, that if you're eating a poached egg and on a little pedestal one of those cups now the word the french word for those egg cups is a coquettier and americans said it wrong cocktail it's the first cocktail no what that no okay this is what you've already said is not the true story. Well, David Wondrich debunked it, but I'm telling you what everyone thought until a couple of years ago. Oh, crazy. So New Orleans was walking around believing that this was the original cocktail.

Then that catches on at some point. He was making it with cognacac and then rye becomes more popular as cognac goes out of style then the rye version gets really popular then we're talking fucking the james bond movie live and let die has a scene in new orleans and they're drinking sazarax and our buddy mads mickelson is drinking sazarax in another round. Ah, yes. Her buddy. Well, we did an episode of the Blu-ray. You see the movie with your friends. Well, you see the movie, but then you talk about it on the Patreon.

No, no, I get it, but I like applying that to any movie I've seen. All my old pals are on screen today. Hey, in the French Dispatch, Owen Wilson's character is named Herb Saint Sazerac. Herb Saint is also a liqueur. Sort of a Gordon Bombay situation.

Yeah, exactly. I wonder if Wes Anderson has seen the Mighty Ducks trilogy and TV show. Gordon Bombay, that's probably our biggest scoop that you cracked here on the show. Why hasn't that gotten big online? I don't know. That the character in Mighty Ducks is a drunk

and he's named two gin brands. That's good. Specifically gin. You know, every time when I'm writing stuff and I'm trying to come up with character names, I don't do that deep of a dive. I'm just like, yeah, this person's name is Carol Blimben.

Carol Blimben is not a character's name. You laugh at it? But Gordon Bombay is a good one like you know they didn't name him bacardi captain morgan yeah yeah right right yeah they were subtle it could have named him morgan bombay but well gordon is more of a uh it's a good strong man stuck in my name for 30 years i haven't seen that movie since it was new. A lot of good names in there. Kenny Wu. The Bash Brothers.

Goldberg. Goldberg. Cake Eater. Don't forget Cake Eater. That's Adam Banks from the Hawks. Adam Banks, that's a very good name too for like, I don't know, just like a boy. It's like Chad.

Yeah. I think Banks is used a lot in movies. very good name too for like i don't know like just like a boy it's like chad yeah i think banks they banks is used a lot in like movies just oh is banks supposed to be like he's he's one of the halves like he's like a rich kid or like a or like a privileged stable he was yeah he was they called him cake eater because he was like he was on the good team and then i don't know i don't know why he ended up on the ducks but he did and damn. And damn it, Charlie brought him into the fold. Michael, take a deep breath. I can't. Well, I hope this doesn't set you off.

Steve Martin in Father of the Bride, he's Banks, right? And they're the Banks family. They're affluent. They have that nice house in Pasadena. Hey, Elizabeth Banks. Anyway. Yeah. family they're affluent they have that nice house in pasadena yeah hey elizabeth banks anyway yeah anyway she she probably makes bank on some of her directing jobs i would assume book smart i would hope so okay so anyway uh that was the kind of kind of myth and you know david wondrich is his cocktail historian who kind of comes in and says like that's actually not true

and then the story that is true is kind of boring so we're kind of sad it makes you sad i'm happy he's out there doing the work but um here's the real story it just made me think of like hanford in our uh old-fashioned episode you you explained that some someone was ordering a whiskey cocktail in the old-fashioned way right like i i use that story to impress people constantly when I'm out, and it always kind of does. It's always the same result. Huh. Oh, interesting.

It impressed me? All right. Interesting. You fumbled through that story. It took, geez, wow, longer than it should have. You stuttery bastard. No, but as a way of saying, like like as opposed to a sour or a highball if you wanted a whiskey cocktail you said in the old-fashioned way and the original cocktails were sugar cube and bitters so that's kind of what we're dealing

with obviously the sazerach is like a very similar to the old-fashioned so the truth is is more like in the like later than pay showed was around there was a different bar called the sazerac saloon kind of a spin-off there's multiple sazerac businesses sazerac's just a name i thought it meant would mean something but it's just like a french name or something but they they're weak there was like the guy the bartenders at this place they made the best whiskey cocktails you know in the old-fashioned way, whiskey cocktail. And they were making them with not cognac, but rye, which had become more popular. And they were using Sazerac brand rye for their whiskey cocktails.

Then I learned there's something else called an improved cocktail. Back then is when if you add a little maraschino or a little absinthe it was an improved cocktail so adding absinthe these guys were improving the cocktail huh and that's pretty much we're looking at here but this is a hotly debated recipe guys we're we're going to do the iba recipe or at least that's what we've discussed cognac cognac here iba tells us 50 milliliters of cognac 10 milliliters of absinthe one sugar cube two dashes peyches bitters uh interesting method here rinse in a chilled old-fashioned glass with the absinthe so that's a you're doing an absinthe rinse around the inside in that 10 mil and you're just sort of like coating the inside.

You just swirl it around and then I guess you'll eventually dump it out. So you swirl it around to coat the inside, add crushed ice and set aside. So you're getting that cup cold. Then stir the remaining ingredients over ice in a mixing glass. Discard the ice and any excess absinthe from the prepared glass. Strain the mixed drink into the glass note the original recipe changed after the american civil war rye whiskey substituted cognac became oh when cognac was hard to obtain they switched to rye got it right ah okay yeah garnish with a lemon zest here's the thing guys i texted celebrity bartender jack schramm just now how is schrammer uh he's doing good he's up

to his old tricks i assume um sure probably and here's what the schramm man i told him schrammer uh it's timmy K. I need your opinion. The slobs are about to record an ep about the Sazerac, and we're going to use cognac instead of rye because that's what the IBA says. And within maybe one second, I get back, don't! Exclamation point.

And he says, definitely, definitely go rye. It's also delicious with cognac, and cognac was the original recipe but to really judge the drink and present it for the audience how it will be served if they order at a bar rye is the move i personally like it with a split base he says an ounce of each i would say first round try it rye official judgment and then fuck around with cognac so um the question we have for ourselves uh is how much does the iba really matter to us i and also when we post this recipe on instagram and say hey everyone we're doing sazrak do we want every jag off on the internet to look at our recipe and say

cognac cognac yeah well jeffy bought it you you bought us some rye so we do have yes michael do you have any rye i don't i've got jim beam is that a that's a bourbon whiskey is that rye bourbon jim beam i think is bourbon and i've got uh and i've just got cognac is Panacea? Courvoisier? Courvoisier What's he's up? Courvoisier So it's got a little bit of the orange in it

Oh, that's Grand Marnier what you have Grand Marnier, that's what I mean Yo, you're going to be using Grand Marnier today Yeah So you're going to have an orange creamsicle And we'll be having a Sazerac, Michael So I'm already off the idea Yeah. So you're going to have an orange creamsicle. And we'll be having a Sazerac, Michael. So I'm already off the idea.

So you're out there in outer space. I guess for you, the decision is Jim Beam bourbon or Grand Marnier orange liqueur with cognac. I'm going to do the Jim Beam. Okay. Jeffy. Yes. Should we start with cognac and then round two do rye? Or should we start with cognac and then round two do rye or should we start with rye and then round two do cognac well i just don't want people to be mad at me i don't care right well i think we need to go back to episode one the mission statement of this podcast are we

going through the iba list or are we going through what we think the Discord people are going to bully us into? We can't be bullied. Because we've been bullied before. I can't be bullied. They can't have the slopheads bossing the slops. Then, yes, then it becomes, you know, what we have on January 6th. Yeah. Well, I don't think that works,

but you know what I mean. I think just to stay the course and honestly, just for our pride to not be afraid of our own Discord, I think... I'm already terrified. Well, we are doing the Rye. We're just not starting with it. I think we should do Cognac and do the IBA

first, or me, I at least am going to do cognac first. And then I would love to try rye on round two. Yes. A round two rye? That's the thing to do. Because look, the idea isn't that we do whatever IBA wants and then we like it. Like we oftentimes will do what they tell us to do.

And then we're like, well, this is bad. You should be doing this. Or the more common way is to be doing this. Speak truth to power. And I think it's cool that on our pod we say we do the cognac and then we make it with rye and say folks this is what you got to do but for the for the recipe that we release you're right tim do we say cognac or rye how about the recipe card yes with we say cognac and then put a little note there rye optional or whatever just so that we don't get ridiculed but then again that's engagement and then that drives likes yeah yeah that's true yeah don't ridicule us oh we simply hate to be called out for our

flaws don't don't share and comment don't like and subscribe don't rate and comment. Don't like and subscribe. Don't rate and review. I personally love cognac. I said last week on the horse's neck that I'm swapping cognac in for whiskey in all my drinks these days. We've got ourselves a little cognac month happening here. Three shows in a row. Oh, my God. Yeah.

I bet people appreciate it, though, because they're like, great, I have this stuff. I don't have to go fucking hunt I mean I appreciate it between the sheets horse's neck and an original recipe Sazerac all have cognac it's cognac month folks

cognac month well I am getting a little antsy itchy sort of shaky over here maybe we should get into this. Let's get into this fucker. Folks, we'll see you on the other side. And we're back with Sazeracs.

Sazeracs didn't yield much. Cognac edition. Yeah, I wish, look how pitiful that is. It's supposed to be just the bottom, yeah. I always, whenever I make a drink like that, I'm like, what did I not put in here? Mike, your heater was rattling, and I was waiting for you to come back, and that rattle, I thought the sound was you doing a very irregular uh mix i thought it was cubes clinking like um i had trouble with my getting my sugar cube to dissolve and i thought that maybe

it would be better to do this like old-fashioned where you just put the bitters on the cube and muddle it look tim i got a lot of thoughts on how this is prepared. It's not very efficient for me. The way they do it in New Orleans is like two old-fashioned glasses right in front of you, and they make a big show of using one of them to mix the drink. This whole notion of rinsing it with the absinthe, which is a pain, because I was just tilting the glass at 45 degrees and trying to roll the legs around. Yeah. And then you're basically rinsing it out with ice and

chucking it anyway yeah bummer um also slop heads if you don't have absinthe use any black liquor per nudes or whatever you got i've uh yeah the absinthe i before i um you know poured it out after i you know rinsed it i took a little sip, and it is intense by itself. Oh, just absinthe? Yeah. Very high proof. Well, sips. Guys, let's get our Saison. Saison.

Okay. Interesting. It almost does have an old-fashioned-y type thing because it's just sugar and yeah cognac i i did find uh i did find a cognac by the way i had a a small nip left of what of vsop uh hold on wait what does it say it's like a brand i can't see from where i am but it's like a brand that henny it's like i can know it's a cheap brand i just know it instead of instead of a henny you got penny yeah that's kind of funny that's not bad um yeah but it's it's definitely in that genre it's a little it's a little stiffy. You know, it's not. I mean, you're basically just having your cognac, but are you getting absinthe notes?

I guess I'm smelling it. I would really have to do a taste test back to back. I expressed my lemon a little too much. I was really putting some elbow into it. So I'm really only smelling lemon. Yeah, but that's a good smell you want to smell that not that absent oh i did i did you're supposed to do two dashes uh pey shows i did two more you bad yours yours uh mine's not as red as uh i think it's supposed to

look oh this is very much an old-fashioned what What are we doing? Yeah. Tim, yours looks nice and red. That's because of those peychauds. I'll tell you what. I also gave a little peychaud. One dash. Two dashes for the drink. One dash for me up to the dome. Spicy.

It's got some kick to it. And it's also got very anise-y. Now, we know Angostura is... They're both aromatic bitters. But they're both alcoholic? Yes Good Dude what if you made a Trinidad sour But with fucking Peychaud sour

That would be spicy We have to have Gonzales on the damn We had our chance We threw a whole special for him He didn't show up I emailed him I emailed him one email well one email one emailed in iraq's world and get him on the show one measly email you know it's a this is a

nice uh you know when you're holding i would have said this before but when you're holding like a old-fashioned glass like this it's a bit a little better with a little ice so you can hear it. But it's got that thing where you can be like, oh, what an afternoon. You put the thing right up to your head. I've been cracking crawfish tails all day. My bead-throwing arm is so tired. We went different ways with this. I said I was uh someone had a bad

day at the stock market tim was cracking crawfish and jeff thrown beads well i think you guys both went nolans but i was you guys took the norlands trip i had to stay back at the firm now that we're drinking these it's funny to me that uh and i was one pushing for this for like as a mardi gras thing to do this week it's fun last year we did the hurricane right uh famous party drink you you you throw beads around and you go to a parade and you yeah you're naked and you're drinking a hurricane and it's an intense drink like there's a lot of stuff in it a lot of stuff in it although after our episode i ordered the pat O'Brien's mix, which people had made fun of because it's pretty much just like fruit punch mix. I actually really love it.

But now, saying that this was a Mardi Gras episode and drinking this drink, this is like a very, this feels a fancy little sipper. It's not a bead throwing vibe. No. This is like the Mardi Gras where all the college kids and the hooligans are down in the parades and up in the casino rooms of the hottest hotels. From Mardi Gras to Mardi Gras.

Town hall, back room. The elites assemble and drink Sazeracs. And they decide the fates of all the drunkards on the street. Selling their bodies for beads. City of sleaze.

That seedy, seamy crescent city. Sleaze dripping from Market Street. What's the, is it Market Street? Sleaze shooting from their prostate glands out their erect penises. Sure, some of the sleaze was caught in latex, but some of it was spilled upon the ground of Market Street.

No amount of Trojan's finest plastic can hold this sleaze. Can hold the sleaze of this town. Yes, and that's where i make my buck enter me a character in this rant the sleaze guy enter me no this guy is he's i speak for the sleaze oh yes yes the detective i protect the sleaze and i mingle with it just as well oh okay he is in and of the sleaze sloppy boys movie city of sleaze hanford plays a detective down in the crescent city during marty and it is called market street down there right am i right no it's it's bourbon street and then you're the you're the main guy the detective and then me and jeff and Jeff do the voices of your balls. I want to get us laid tonight.

Come on, my guarantee. Guarantee. Would you two be quiet? I have to meet with the DA this afternoon. Oh, we're covered in corduroy down here. The corduroy's too sick. Just a clown without covered in sleaze. We can't breathe, Michael.

Yeah, his balls have to be out. Michael, you do so much... You do so much commercial work for Manscaped, you'd think you could maybe use some of the product on us. You got to bust these pubes. Then, guys, the climax. Mike, it's time in the trial. It's time for the closing arguments.

Mike got too drunk on Sazerac, so he's passed out. But then his fly zips down and me and Jeff hop out. Your Honor! And they begin the closing arguments. Your Honor! Guilty! The judge is like, Now, now, who are these two fine young gentlemen?

Beardless men. Your Honor, I submit that the prosecutor has passed out. Yes. Yes. Yes! And then the jury stands up. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then the jury stands up. Yes. 12 yeses, please.

Good movie. Yeah. That's not bad. That's not bad. Because New Orleans is like a character in it. Yeah? You know,

because of all the sleeves. Yeah. Are you saying sleeves? Because of all the sleeves. The whole time I was saying sleeves. Yeah. What time of it's all the sleeves the whole time i was saying sleeves yeah what time of year was are we shooting uh winter we better have sleeves the sleeve budget better be now where is market street is that what is market oh yeah um i mean san francisco

there's probably a market street there might be a market street in new orleans i just bourbon street is the famous. Bourbon is the one I was trying to say, but now I don't know where Market Street is. Commercial Street is Provincetown. I'm going to say Market Street is San Francisco. Is that that one? You know, what's where we go to like Vesuvio and those kind of, that little. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where like American Zoetrope is, yeah, yeah. That's where like North Beach? American Zoetrope is. Yeah, yeah. Is that Market Street? No. There is well, there's a way to find out.

Let's not get too geographic. We could find out somehow. Some way. I don't want to gloss over I thought it was pretty funny when I said Smarty Graw. Yeah, that was good. That was very funny.

That was good podcasting. That's the type of thing podcasters do they say a little clever thing from marty graw to smarty graw that's one for the discord they'll they'll catch it a lot of people a lot of people in the comments will be like i can't believe when mike said this it got nothing like guys we're not gonna stop down and for an applause break for every line we're shooting in gold here 24 7 we don't have time. Jeff, just let it go. Let the people dig on you. You gotta get out of those Discord

rooms. They're killing you. You're gonna lose yourself in there. You're in too deep. Why do you do it to yourself, Jeff? Oh. Ooh, it's good, but I can't wait for the Rye one. Yeah. The Rye one't wait for the rye one. Yeah. The rye one.

You got the rye one, baby. So wait, Tim, I want to go back to this carousel bar. It's a 16-minute round trip around. Does the bar, I know you've explained before, but the bar moves like in a circle? Yeah, but that's what's great. It's moving slow enough. That's moving slow enough that's super you're not you're not really clocking it but then you like drink one sazerak and you've like you've been all over the room and and pretty soon the room yeah tim where's the speed controls on that thing don't let me do that crank you finish uh wait does the bar move like does the bartender move if the bartender

was staying in one spot would he be moving with you i guess he would or else he'd have to be walking while making a drink huh bartender's probably smack dab in the middle right smack dab in the middle but i don't know if he rotates too or if it's like the rotating is extremely slow so it wouldn't be too hard for him to, but I'm guessing he's rotating too just so that if he sets up your two glasses for your Sazerac, he doesn't have to do a little foot shuffle side to side the whole time. I wonder if they timed it out like

16 minutes is an odd time if they got like, yeah, 16 minutes is around the time everyone finishes a drink. I always think of a round of drinks as being 20 minutes. I never even thought of that. Now, and Tim, you've a drink? I always think of a round of drinks as being 20 minutes. Ooh. I never even thought of that. Now, and Tim, you've worked

in a restaurant. A restaurant that was a pizzeria, and I made the barbecue. I guess I'm not the authority. Now, Tim, you know what I would do? Like I was talking about the speed control? Crank it. You want a little more

power. And the centrifugal power and the centrifugal force the centrifugal force mixes the drinks yeah i love that shakes them up it's safe to wear and tear on your wrists and elbows and if you're too drunk you get thrown off survival of the fittest kind of like the uh the vomitron in uhass Forever. Did I tell you guys this drink? We know where this famous person who... Did I tell you the story of the famous person in this drink? You didn't tell me. Maybe you told Jeff the story of the famous person in this drink, but not me.

The two famous people involved in this. Okay, I'll tell you now. We all know Elton John. Sure. Right? Yeah. The rocket man. The madman across the ocean.

Well, he and Eminem, most recently from the Super Bowl halftime show, had a duo duet where they did Stand together. Was that the? Yes. Was that it? Stand in the place where you live. Perhaps they did Stand together. Was that the? Yes. Was that it? Stand in the place where you live. At the Grammys or perhaps the MTV Music Awards. Well, they stayed friends and they see each other from time to time. And a lot of the times they'll get together either at Marshall's house or at Elton's house.

And whoever's house it is, they make dinner, and the other person eats it. Yeah, yeah. The other person, well, they both eat it. And if they bring any plus ones, they will eat as well. Okay. This is such a very weird specific arrangement they have. They both eat dinner. I know, and a weird way to tell a story.

I'm trying to make sure I'm hitting certain beats just so you're not left out of the whole story. I appreciate it because this is a lot to take in. It's pretty roundabout. Yeah, well, we're talking about the carousel bars. Those are sort of round. It's got to be that round

feeling. So you got those two guys, superstars in their own right, different genres, and they became friends. They do this thing. And there was a story, and actually,

it got recorded. One of them, because they're always recording stuff because they're musicians. And one of them kept his phone on. He was recording it. Anyway.

Musicians are always doing that. They roll. Yeah. Roll sound that you'll hear them say. Yeah. Well, so one of them accidentally rolled sound on this little conversation they had after dinner. And it was around cocktail time because it for some reason the two of them do cocktail hour after dinner

whatever they're musicians they're artists they are out there man and uh this little type this little piece of uh tape got out and i got my uh at this you know this point in time pretty clean little mitts on it and uh i we can play it for you now if you want to hear it i would love to yeah it's great this is elton john uh you know post dinner with with eminem they're trying to figure out what to do for cocktail hour oh and i will say there's something too that i need to bring up anything anything else we should know there's something you have to bring up marshall mathers he famously just is more of like a beer guy or a wine guy he didn't do cocktails much so he doesn't know how to mix cocktails very well

sometimes he needs help but uh you know i wonder if that'll have anything to do with this but put just go ahead. Great. Sounds familiar. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Maybe get some ice now for the C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-s-s-s-Sazerac. M&M, you're getting it all over the place. Oh, poor guy. I'm forgetting something. Ah, yes. Cognac.

Cognac. Cognac. Cognac. In the Sazerac. Yeah. Marsha, this has been so much fun. Next time we get together, you make dinner and I'll make the drinks. Now, what type of drink would you like, Marshal? A little bit of weed It's just a hard liquor Oh, God

You haven't changed since I've met you, Marshal Oh, careful, Marshal It looks like you've spilled some of your satirac on you So this must mean I'm disgusting It's just me, I'm just a thief No, it doesn't mean you're disgusting It's fine, it's fine Just give it to the maid

They'll have it washed and dried Before you leave So next time if I make the drinks And you make dinner What would you like to make, Marshal? Oh A certain type of pasta from a certain lady. Damn.

My dad's fettuccine. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Crazy. Oh, my God. What a ride. Crazy, those two two i like it you know sometimes when when a british singer sings they sound different when they speak like you can really tell the difference between like

i didn't know elton john was one of these guys who sounded like getting older you know getting jowly it's just kind of you know yeah i would you know when i was listening to this i was thinking like my god elton really has to tell marshall a lot of stuff and then i remembered marshall is a beer guy more of a beer guy and wine just hit wine also uh was the big note there that's the note there and it's just so strange because like that interaction they had really sounded very similar to elton's song benny and the jets uh to the point where like sa-sa-sa-saz-a-rak is just the ultimate perfect rhyme for benny and the jets yeah a lot of these a lot of these musicians will go on the uh the last sort of syllable of a word yes that's

what they go on yeah they go on that i was wondering what they go on but that's what well that's what they go on and we should know that as musicians we should go on that Yeah, they go on that. I was wondering what they go on, but... Well, that's what they go on. Oh, God. I think we should know that as musicians. We should go on that, too. Yeah, let's start going on that. Let's make a plan to go on that.

To go on that, specifically. That was cool, man. Really cool to hear. I can't believe you got your hands on that. That's great, Mike. I know.

Well, I just... It was floating around on one of the... A website, so I just picked it up. Well, it was floating around on one of the websites, so I just picked it up. Well, anyway, let's go make a second round. What do you think, man? Well, hold on, Mike. Let me handle this part. Yeah, maybe you should handle this.

I don't know. I'm a little lost. Well, you know, you host the blowout, you know. Big hand bopper. Big hand bopper. Folks, we're going to go make round two of these. When we come back, we'll have our final thoughts. How about that?

I'm doing rye this time. Me too. Rye. I'll do the Jim beam, which I, who knows? Love it. Who knows what the hell is going to happen there.

Folks, see you after the ads. Peace. Hey, check this out. What? This new glass, one of those shorties. Oh, cool. It's in shorties. It's like a glass ramekin or like from getting like creme brulee as a takeout.

Oh, it's a ramekin. A little glass dish that's like a, it's like an old-fashioned glass, but it's half height. I like that. And it's perfect for like this little guy. I would imagine that's what like, in like a Japanese, cool Japanese bar

would be that style. Oh, yeah. Hey, are we back? Are we back? We're back, we're back. We're back, we're back. Guys. Oh, go ahead, Jeff. Bring us bring us back we're in man oh i thought you usually do a bad we're bad no sometimes there are these sort of

like informal like you know it's ease in yeah we should start doing that with the uh with the opening of the show like we're just talking that's like here we hey, we start? Oh, we start. Oh, cool. Oh, hey, didn't see you come in. That sort of thing. Yeah. I did a little bit of a naughty thing. I left my absinthe in. Michael! So you're going to have a licorice tree. I did a naughty thing, too, where I, instead of dumping out my absinthe, I dumped it into my throat.

And ooh, burns the throat. jeff how did you get naughty when you uh what were you split no no i was a respectable boy through and through respectable so me and mike were naughty and jeff was oh so nice shall we yeah yeah rye whiskey here we go i've been drinking it. It's definitely different. Yeah, I mean, like, that's the taste I'm more used to. In the maybe three Sazeracs I've had in my life, it tastes more like this. I can't tell because I did two different things, the absinthe and the rye whiskey, which wasn't even rye.

It's bourbon, so who knows? But I do prefer the the thing i had before i mean i like jack shram's idea of half and half cognac yeah because like this is so rye forward i feel like yeah i'm just drinking some rye the hammer strikes again the cognac does taste more like my old-fashioned the way i make an old-fashioned it's, it's a sweet, it's sweet lemon bitters and, uh, you know, cognac instead of bourbon.

Well, think about cognac is it's a, it's a toy story drink, you know, it's Woody and it gives you, yes, we didn't say that. They knew,

they knew they do damn well. I like this too. I mean, this is absolutely delicious. Yeah. Um, I think you you gotta ask yourself how do you says you know because if you want a little nicey spicy with the patience and the rye

it's a bright if you want it bright go rye if you want it a little more warm and i'm a cognac guy i like that grapey that grapey stuff go cognac yeah next time i'm gonna try it with the grand marnier wow this is exciting yeah shram was really dunking on the cognac version and i think they're absolutely both great well he wasn't saying it was bad he was saying like as a sazerac and he's just just saying for our listeners, if you want to taste the Sazerac as ordered, it's rye. But Shram actually did say he thought that cognac was delicious with it and that he

personally likes to do the half and half. Oh, listen to this. So I made some shots the other night at my Super Bowl party. And I did... What the hell night at my Super Bowl party. And I did... What the hell did I do? I did whiskey.

Yeah, I did Jim Beam, 2-1 Jim Beam, and triple sec. Okay. Okay. Does that remind us of any drinks? Sounds like SoCo or something. Does that remind us of any drinks? Sounds like SoCo or something. Well, if you added fucking... And I squeezed some lemon in it, too.

Yeah, I was going to say lemon. Well, isn't that like a side... Oh, a sidecar is cognac and triple sec and lemon. We made something that is... Yeah, I could... Whiskey triple sec lemon. Yeah, it seemed familiar. But it was a whiskey triple sec lemon yeah it seemed familiar uh but it was a good it was a good shot and it's a good uh it's a little it's not as rough you know what i mean plus it's also not as alcoholic it's uh you know you're pulling back a little bit i i uh i like that a

lot a shot with especially if you're doing shot with a bunch of people, you go with a gentle shot. You ever say, say you're getting tequila shots for everyone and you say chilled. You ever do that? The bartender pours the tequila into a cocktail shaker, shakes it up with ice. It makes it cold, but also dilutes it a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of a nice thing. So I'll sort of, sometimes if I'm making shots, especially beginning of the night,

if I want to do like a lemon drop or a kamikaze or something, it's nice. You're having a shot, but it's diluted. It's more welcoming. Hey, speaking of those low-proof fireball cinnamons, have you guys ever been to a bar that doesn't serve liquor and they have like a house shot? Like soju?

Maybe. No. Shouju is a Japanese cooking wine or something, right? Right. And a lot of times at a restaurant that doesn't have a liquor license, they'll make cocktails with soju. Yeah. And like I went to one, I think Brickyard Pub. So they can only sell beer and wine then?

Yeah. Is that not a liquor license? think brickyard pub so they can only sell they can only sell beer and wine then yeah like no liquor like they can only sell beer and wine and then for whatever reason brickyard pub is is the one up in the valley and i think there's one in hollywood where and they were like you can have our house shot and it was like when you walk in the door you can have a house shot if you say you can have our house shot because i remember being like no alcohol yet there's a house shot. And it's like they sort of make a fake liquor out of like wine or like limoncello or like grappa or something. They sort of have these weird little cheats where it's like, oh, it's only like 33%. Interesting. I don't know. Well, you know, remember we went to Rustic for the blowout episode and we wantedball shots, and they didn't have it, so he made us up something.

He's like, I could come up with something. Yeah, when people ask for fireball, I don't have it. This is what I make. Well, this is not at all close to what we wanted. Does it taste like Big Red? Also, the wings. Where are the wings? Speaking of shots that are flavored like cinnamon, any of you guys watch Pam and Tommy?

No. This is a booze news type of item. Pam orders shots. She's at a club the night she meets Tommy, and she wants to get shots for everybody in the house, and she orders Goldschlager shots. Yeah. And I think it was like a very 1995 thing to do. And then I Googled around, and so I don't know if it was specifically Goldschlager, but that is true that she had ordered a round of shots

for everybody at the club that night, so maybe it was Goldschlager. Oh, at the club. Oh, that's a lot. Oh, at the club. At the club, bottle full of bub. Yeah, everyone at the club on a Thursday afternoon. All right, final thoughts?

What do you think? Here's my final thought. I like the first round better. And this is a nice addition to, like, the repertoire of, like, kind of the martini, what's another, like, a Manhattan, sort of a classier drink. A stiffy. Stiffy.

Yeah, a little stiffy. It's Mardi Gras style-ies. Me too. I like like it you know what last mardi gras on the very night this was like uh first wave covid uh mardi gras happened in 2021 and we had not had our shots yet or anything so we're still pretty much staying home oh wow i remember i wanted to have some fun so we ordered We had just done the hurricane on the sloppy pod. Here I am! Okay. And I...

So we ordered some, like, shrimp, some, like, Cajun... From a Cajun place in LA, and, like... Cajun scrimples, okay. Shrimp lover? Shrimp... It was a Glendale one. It was, like, Shrimp Street or something like that. And then I made hurricanes with the Pat O'Brien mix,

and we watched King Creole, a terrible Elvis movie. But now this is giving me more of a, now I'm thinking Smarty Graw, 2022. I'm having Sazeracs, and maybe I'll order more of a etouffee, you know? What's that? It's a different dish. But I think I'm going to keep it more classy.

I'm not going to be throwing beads. I'm going to have this Sazerac, and it's going to be a little more of a fancy Frenchy type. You're in the back room with the judges. Yeah, but I love it. This drink is delicious. From throwing beads to sipping meads. I loved the cognac, and I loved the rye,

and I think I prefer the cognac and I loved the rye. And I think I prefer the cognac, but they're both great. I'm curious to mix them both together like Jack Schramm said. Yep. You know, if I was on like, if I was a teacher or something and there was spring break going on and I wandered into Mardi Gras and I saw some of my students throwing beads, catching beads, I'd be like, what is this? You guys shouldn't be throwing beads. You should be opening up your meads.

Notebooks. Okay. Your meads. You shouldn't be drinking Cezarec. You should be going to your doorman back to class. You're all going to fail if you behave this way during the finals. And they say, no, Mr. Hanford, this is, Professor Hanford, this is, you know, our spring break. It's our time to cut loose before we really buckle down and nail those finals.

I said, guys, I had it all wrong. I had you all wrong. Now we're connecting as humans and we understand each other. Mike, you joke, but you mentioned mead and mead is a drink is it not yeah well it said me i don't think you guys heard when i was saying you said from throwing beads to sipping needs and i didn't think anyone heard that said oh i'm gonna redo reuse it as a notebook joke sure but here's what i want to say sure they both weren't funny that article about beverages that are allowed to be served at gas stations and bodegas in new york it said in it it said uh beer and fireball and mead you can serve mead sure so mead my god mead

and mead is a honey drink right it's like fermented honey yeah i went to like a mead orchard in uh in norcal and it was it was very champagney which is weird because i thought it was like going to be like medieval and like like yeah like game of thrones yeah no it's floral and bright and nice huh what is malort is that just a straight up liquor or would that be something maybe could that fly under a the radar of some one of these laws i think it's i think it's distilled because it's a wormwood liqueur. Not that you'd want to. Yeah, not that you'd want to.

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Listen for the Sazerac reference. Ladies and gentlemen, the Sloppy Boys with Tom Collins. Once you hear Sazerac in the song, you got to do a shot. That's the drinking game. Of Sazerac. You got to drink one of every cocktail that you hear. Over your lifetime. If you drink.

If you don't, that's fine too. On our system too, because we have no way of checking up on this. Bye folks. I said, don't back on the best, but to say thanks for the surge. You gave a great buzz to me and my buds. I said, a bus to say thanks for the suds He gave a great buzz to me and my buds

I sent a PayPal to the great cab to the Costco store And the lady with the grape tree on the vineyard tour All I wanna do is show my attitude And if I ever meet Tom Collins I'd like to shake his hand You got me drunk, man If I ever meet Tom Collins, I'd like to shake his hand. You got me drunk, man. You got me sloshed, dude.

You got me tanked, Tommy. You got me plato, buddy boy. Oh, you got me right where you want me. In the drunk tank. Home sweet home. I go to hell and back for a Sazerac. Oh, I thank you, Warlin, for a dark and stormy. I'd slip you a fiber for another screwdriver and leave a Mondo tip for a mid-julip.

If you know what I mean, I know you know what I mean And if I ever meet Tom Collins I'll kiss him on the lips And squeeze his little hips Do some twirls and dips Hold him in my grips To thank him for the tips Because they got me Oh yeah, they got me.

Three sheets to the wind. Land ho! I'll send an edible arrangement to my travel agent Cause they had free booze on my carnival cruise Hey kid, can you tell me what's Australian for beer? And then what's Australian for beer? And then what's Australian for puke? Cause I just chundered here If you know what I mean Dear God, do you know what I mean?

And if I ever meet Tom Collins We'll have to get a room And I'll make him my groom With a big house full of children And a future that we're building We'll grow old, God willing Cause you got me Oh yeah, you got me

Got me drunk now, Tom!