The Sloppy Boys - Long Island Iced Tea with Jeff Rosenstock

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

The guys welcome DIY king Jeff Rosenstock for a far-reaching discussion powered by the iced tea from his native Long Island.LONG ISLAND ICED TEA RECIPE: shot TEQUILAshot VODKAshot WHITE RUMshot TRIPLE SECshot GIN a little bit SOUR MIXfor color COLARecipe via Bob Butt Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Although Trey Cool did heckle my stand up comedian friend at the Irvine. And who was that? The fuck is Trey Cool doing? Heckling people. He's fine. He doesn't need to do that. But he was doing the thing, not being like you suck, just drunk and like wanting to be part of the joke, trying to be funny. And then my friend Opie was like all sad, walking to his car and Trey caught him in the parking lot.

Was like, you were the best man, that was so fun. And he ran off and they're like, he's here every weekend. Did that make your friend feel better or worse that he was in the parking lot afterwards? My friend didn't give a shit about Green Day, so someone had to explain like that was the drummer from Green Day, he's like weird. From the man that I like?

He's like, I'm still sad about my night. He likes you. And he likes you. I watched the Longview video recently. That thing rips so hard. Yeah. Is that when he's sitting on a couch all pimply and stuff? Yeah, he's sitting on a couch.

But then when it cuts to the band, who's the bass player? Mike Dirt? Yeah. He's just so athletic up there. Dirt. Yeah. Yeah. Just like they're just like they're so savage. I was like, oh, man, you forget that like they really were such a force when they first showed up when they showed up. Was that is that the long view is do do do do do do takes the phone off the thing and leaves it. That's the one I come around.

Okay, I remember you saying that, I was kidding, like, cool dude. Yeah. Mess it with shit. Mess it with shit. Fuck it. That's punk rock, man. Nobody can call my house

because I kept leaving the phone off the way. No more music videos, Mike. All right, I'm gonna start it, I'm gonna start it for real. Hey everybody, welcome to The Slop boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Michael Hanford. Oh, we got a big one.

We got a big fish in the room tonight. Reel in a big tuna today. And Tim Kalkakis. What is a big tuna style? Big tuna. And joining us today, very special guest. You might know him from his many bands, Arrogant Sons of Bitches,

Bonly Music Industry, Antartico Vespucci, or his self-named band, his solo band. Sure. Solo band? Call it anything, I don't know. Jeff Rosenstock, baby.

Hello! Hello! Is that a real audience? Yeah. Yeah. They're live Yeah, that's cool. I take it back when I said about Zoom. It's actually pretty cool to do that shit. Now, Jeff, why do they call you the big tuna?

You know, I'm big, I'm a fish. It just kind of works. Yeah, let's get some more water for you. But it's funny that you say that. Flash his ass. Flash his ass. We have like a constant thing on the show where we're like, we'll surprise each other with like little parody songs on the podcast, but we always like out ourselves by like sing. You'll hear somebody like singing a song all day and it's like, oh, he's probably like

thinking of a song. But so this week I've heard all of you guys being like, whoa, whoa. Cool. Gear it up. Yeah. You got to gear up. You got me. You've had me for a long time, actually.

That song's been my head. Thanks. Hell yeah. Years and years. Sorry. No, thank you. You're welcome. I don't know.

Thank you. Jeff, what was your first drink? My first drink? Ooh. Do you remember? Oh, I remember. So I didn't drink it until I was a senior or a junior in college.

I don't know why I lied. Is it a senior? So what's a legal adult? Basically, legal adult. I just like, I don't know. I just didn't want to. I just didn't care. I felt like in high school, I was watching my friends get drunk and just act dumb.

And I was like, you're fucking shit up. What? Small little school called NYU, New York University. Oh yes, the purple and white. Little mom and pop. But yeah, and then I went through a really bad breakup and I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna start drinking. And I started drinking woodchuck cider.

Oh, nice. I was like, this stuff rocks. Like depressed breakup drinking cider is great. It's not too far off from apple juice. Oh yeah. Yeah, it was. I haven't seen that in a long time, but I love that stuff.

I feel like that was one of those weird things where the bottle was like half an ounce smaller than normal beer bottles. Yeah, yeah. It was like just, and you'd think like, well, maybe it's wider, but who really knows? Probably not. So wait, then is there,

because isn't there like in the kind of DIY punk scene, there's a lot of straight edge dudes, right? Was that also a part of it at all? Like in high school, did your friends not drink or you were just like not interested? I think I was just not interested. It wasn't like a thing amongst my group of friends when I was like 14 and going to hardcore shows for the first time. I would like put X's on my hands. Like I'm straight edge, but also like, yeah, no shit. I'm fucking 14.

No access and I'm scared. Yeah, basically. I mean, I have access and I'm still scared. But here we are. I didn't know any like proudly straight edge people like until my 20s. Did you guys? I know there was one of my school that like we couldn't tell. I couldn't tell if it was like real or not because the same thing like it was 14 years straight. I was like, we can't do that anyway. So what what do you prove in here? Yeah. Yeah. I remember in college, like there were people who would

go to parties or be like, hey, go on this party night. And I remember one dude kind of like holier than now saying, no, I actually want to remember my college experience, which is like a fair point. But the way that you say it, I remember I was a fucking herb during my college experience. Also, it feels like one of those lines is like in a list of like what to say when you're being pressured. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You should be like, well, I only want to remember what I learned in class. Yes. I'm drinking. I'm drinking the first beer I ever had or got drunk.

That's the first beer you've ever had. This is good. No, Coors Bank. It was the first beer I ever got drunk on. I buy it just because it just like looks like a can of beer. Right. I don't know if it tastes good, but it's like, ah, yeah, here we go. You see the Coors Light Silver Bullet way more often,

but that Coors original looks like like a Duff Beer or something that Homer Simpson would drink. Yeah, it looks like something you drink out in the woods or something. Oh, that we talk about woods beer quite a bit. Genuine drafts certain brands just like, oh, M.G.D. Yeah. Wow. Send us pictures of M.G.D. They found in the woods. They do like the like the camouflage cans. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Send us pictures of M.G.D.'s they found in the woods. Did they do like the like the camouflage cans?

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. That's dangerous. Oh, we know camo is bush light. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah. I saw it. Where was that? We're in Buffalo and I saw like bush light peach. What? Yes, I saw it. So funny because they didn't they didn't come out with a whole slate. It's like the bush light and like didn't try it. You tried it when you saw it. No, I was afraid of it. I didn't want to go near it.

Peach. Bush Light also the beer that is like, nice beers say like there's no corn in our beer. It's just like hops and barley and grain and bushes. Extra corn. Proud corn beer. The corn beer. It's a corn syrup beer. It's just like hops and barley and grain and bushes. Extra corn. Proud corn beer. The corn beer. It's a corn syrup beer. What would be like the Long Island cheap beer? Is there a yingling of Long Island?

No, not a beer that I would have known of. And also when I started drinking I wasn't really living in Long Island anymore. I feel like just saw a lot of Budweiser, Bud Light probably, like all kids in high school like drinking Budweiser and Bud Light. Yeah, for sure. Did you ever get into the Mike's heart or the smear it off vice, anything like that? I wouldn't say I got into it necessarily, but you know, I dabbled a little bit. We would ice each other a lot in Bomb the Music Industry. Yeah, we just talked about that.

Yeah, which was really fun. And I think during the last Bomb the Music Industry show, a friend of ours iced me with a 22 ounce smirnoff, in between the two sets that we were doing. And then the last set was truly fucked, which was kind of in the spirit of that band. We never had that experience before, Jeff. No? No, I'm kidding. You go into your with that type of thing before. Jeff, no, no, I'm you know, your show's prepared and sober.

Right. That is wrong. We get people bring drinks up to us. We get fucked by the have you. Have you been iced before? No, but like shot it. Not that much volume. Yeah. Do you like we were talking. We had spirit of ice on the show recently because there's a new drink

called an ice rocket where you, it's, it's a Coors light with some Smirnoff ice poured into it. So it makes like a shandy kid type of thing. Honestly, it sounds like it'd be kind of like, it sounds like one of those things you'd be like, it was like, I would drink this by a pool and it's like a Tik TOK drink right now. But we were, that's cool of you. But we were like, we were talking about the ice.

Like I have I'm blessed to have lived my whole life without ever being ice. Is it like it's not too late? Do you just show it? So it would so it would be like if I was like, oh, shit, I love my phone over there. Can you grab it and you reach under the pillow and there is to be an element of like concealing and making the person? Yes. There's got gotta be a gotcha. Yeah, I'll tell you, I've been like, oh, I bought you even just as simple

as like I bought you something and then handing somebody. I just wrote I asked our bass player at his wedding when I was his best man. And like around the time you guys were icing each other was like way after. This is like a few years ago. And like that was the beginning of my speech. It's like, hey, I got you a drink, a bottle of champagne for your wedding. And then there was this mirror and I'll fight.

So he had to drink it in front of everybody. Gotcha. So it's fun. You know, we have fun. His parents are like, what are you doing? We paid for this whole thing? He's like, fine. No, his parents know me.

And they're like, geez, these fucking kids. I aced them too. I aced the whole family. So when did you start bomb the music industry? That was 2000 and 2004. Beginning of 2005. So you were like fresh out of college or still in. Yeah, I was I was like out of college.

Like, so I went to NYU. And when I was done, when I graduated, I was like, OK, that's how you get it. Great. I did it. I'm going to get a job. I went to this fancy school. I could be paying off for fucking forever. And I went to the career center. And I remember all they really said were like, yeah, I guess we could show you how to make your resume a little better. And it was like a crazy discouraging. I was just like, oh, no. And it was like a like a crazy discouraging. Yeah, I was just like, oh, no. And I kind of started bomb music industry around then.

So I was like back living at my parents' house and just in my childhood bedroom. Like, oh, I was wondering. So for people listening, the sun is going down. Yeah, you know, like it's not the way. And I was wondering how far we were going to let this go. I'm just fully pitch black. Yeah, I don't know. You can turn that lamp on the way. And I was wondering how far we were going to let this go. Fully pitch black. Yeah, this is a lamp on as well. Yeah, I know you started to look like you were like silhouetted.

Like this is an anonymous. That's just how I look when I talk about dark times. But it was but like I had that band, Arrogant Sons of Bitches, which is my high school band. That was the first and we had like we you know, like I went to school like there are just a bunch of good bands in my high school band. Oh, right, that was the first one. And we had like, we, you know, I went to school, like there were just a bunch of good bands in our high school and they would all break up when they graduate.

And I was just like, they shouldn't have broken up. I bet they could have like done shit if they didn't. So I was like, we should just keep going. But it wasn't really tenable at a certain point. But like we toured a little bit and we had a good time and it was weird. It's weird to make Scott in 2002. Like nobody, nobody thought any like it was, it was just like, there was like five bands

doing it. I feel like. Yeah, it was. We were one of them. There was no room for Scott in Indie Sleaze. No. In the blog rock era, which is past us. It's crazy to think like, oh yeah, clap your hands hands. Say, yeah, that was like a while ago.

Yeah. And like that moment's over. Like that kind of whole era is over. It's kind of nice. I feel like I'm set free. Very hot music. Come back to like pop punk is like what? Like we look through that too. And it was like, wow, that's back. Cool. Yeah. Now, Olivia Rodrigo is like making pop punk songs.

It's cool. We're nostalgic for many time periods at the same time. Yeah, they're piling up. Yeah, like there's kind of this bottleneck happening. Like nostalgic listening, I have to do. But were you like so through that that indie rock era, were you still just were like, I'm a punk ska guy or were you the IA as and stuff like that? Well, I mean, like as far as what I listen to, like I just tried to listen to things that I thought were good and I like some of that stuff.

Because if you're in New York, that is ground zero for that. So I didn't like that stuff at all. I didn't like the strokes. I didn't like the yeah. I didn't know. I was like, fuck this, because I was just in. I was in the band that was getting like shit on. Also, like I'm 19. Who knows? I don't know. You know. Doesn't every band feel shit on? Yeah, I'm 19. Who knows? Doesn't everybody feel shit on? You know, but doesn't everybody feel shit on?

Yeah, I think so. We have a little website recently. Some people like that stuff. I got to show you this website. Michael, you got a URL? It's insane what's going on on this website. But yeah, I kind of just like also like going to school and not drinking. It felt like that was like a very sure.

Yeah. This thing that was happening even later on, just like living in Brooklyn and everybody, not everybody, but like that whole scene, just kind of being coked up the whole time. And like me growing up and be like, that's what like fucking 80s rock stars do. And I'm a punk and like, I'm like, what? Oh, enjoy your cocaine. Rich boy in the bathroom or whatever. Right. And yeah, I think I just just everything about it. I, I didn't like it. But I'd say it like fucking yeah, maps kicks ass. It's cool. Like, like looking back in it now, like, I don't know, it's not in those bands, all those bands write some good songs.

Yeah, I was huge into all that stuff. But oblivious. I'm from upstate New York and we met at the college. But like Kingston Woodstock. Oh, shit. Cool. Oh, yeah. And we were like, I was I just was I didn't know about like the to choose a team or anything. So I have like CDRs from that era. That's like like strokes and American idiot tracks like. Sure. And I had no idea that you that like those those were different things. I was like strokes and American idiot tracks like, and I had no idea that you that like those, those were different things. I was like rock and roll, baby.

Man. I think it's so cool that you were, you were actually making stuff when that was going on. Like we were just kind of consumers at that point. Oh yeah. And still are proud, proud consumers. But like, uh, uh, I don't know if you know this, but Jeff sort of came up with the idea of publishing music online for donation rather than for retail. Yes. Radiohead gets a lot of credit for this. Yes. Right. That was in Rainbows. Yeah, because I remember that too. Sure. Everybody remembers.

But like, you were disrupting industry, by the way. But like, thank you for disrupting industry, by the way. But for you, that you like you were doing something in you were doing an alternative to like a music industry that was thriving. I know I wouldn't say the music industry was thriving in the late in the early 2000s. They were like better than now, though, right? Well, it's when they were first freaked from. I mean, this is so in my like viewpoint of it at that period of time,

they had no fucking idea what the fuck they were going to do. Right. Like fans to control. They're like, oh, shit, I could just get this off for free. Nastar's they were suing fans. Yeah. Because like Dr. Dre was like, I don't have enough money, which like I like Dr. Dre's music, but he has enough money. I feel like I like Dr. Dre's music, but he has enough money. I feel like like that. So I was just trying to do something that was just like very, like, I don't know,

I was just like, all these records are free online anyway, who gives a shit like, you know, and then now I think because everything's free online in air quotes, because it's all like Spotify and streaming services and stuff. That now the major labels really have control of that whole thing. So it's like this illusion of this democratized thing, but really major labels are getting better royalty rates than we're getting. We're getting like independent artists are getting asked to like, take a lower than like the fucking like 10th of a cent or whatever the hell it is, royalty rate so that their music could get pushed to playlists more. And then like, so like, playing was pushing is the new like radio payola. Yeah, yes. And become this on a computer instead of radio waves.

Yeah. There's a really good book called Mood Machine that my buddy Liz Pelly wrote that goes through the whole thing in a crazy detailed way, which is cool. But the point is that I feel like the music industry now, that music industry is fucking thriving, because they figure out how to get their hooks in everybody again and make it so that it's harder for independent artists, even though like we can all we can all put it in the void. Yeah, like it's like, what do you find in the void?

But also like, Dan, I think there's just this alternate path, which is what hopefully we're trying to do, which is like, or you could just not give a shit and try and try and just do a good job and make a good record and play good shows. And I'll think about how you can juice the algorithm or whatever the fuck, you know? I feel like DIY was like our only option by the time we started making music at all seriously.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we would have taken other options if they were given to us. Yeah, even when we did our Money Knockout when we were like, shit, could we maybe get like, like meet with somebody or like get an endorsement or something? And even Mark was just like get an endorsement or something. And even Mark was just like, guys, don't bother. Yeah. For real, friends bars who are on like smaller labels are like,

they don't really have anything to give us. Yeah. Or anything. It's like we can get two thousand for a video, maybe. Sure. I mean, well, you went through like a mega corporate media monolith. Well, I don't know how mega corporate is, but you're on TV. So you must have had like some sort of executives that you're dealing with. You know?

And like, you know, you get how it goes. Like they could do some stuff, but you lose a lot of freedom. And a lot of the time, you're just like, wait a second. And we had a ton of freedom on birthday boys. So we could kind of be like, yeah, it did help to have Odenkirk just tell everybody to back off. I wonder if you didn't have to assume anything about what was going on. No, no, no.

I mean, it was like, uh, and anytime, like, anytime I think of like a sketch that the network like wouldn't let us do, I'm like, oh yeah, we shouldn't have done that. They were probably right about it. So they were fine. But it's funny. But I feel like the way that it's like told to the public after the fact, a lot of times I hear these like classic rock stories of a label being like, sorry, Bruce Springsteen, like we don't hear a single. And then he's like, oh, man, I had then I had to go right.

Like I wrote Blinded by the Light after the fact. And like, I love that song. And then it was like went on to be a hit single the light after the fact. And like, I love that song. And then it was like, went on to be a hit single for whoever after the fact. But that's Bruce Springsteen's only number one track ever is the cover, the Manfred Mann cover of blinded. I think it is Manfred Mann probably. I think so.

What? Mannheim steamroller. No, exactly. But so- Born in the USA was not a number one song. He had like seven tracks in the top 10 on that album, but like nobody, I think there was like a Michael Jackson song out at that time or something like that.

Damn. Damn. Another mark against Michael Jackson. I like the guy until right now. That's why Spragsy's got to put out that new bunch of songs he just found. Yeah, I do love it. Like Spragsy to Neil Younger, just like, guess what? I wrote six secret albums at the peak of just found. Yeah, I do love it. Like, Spray Z to Neil Younger just like, guess what, I wrote six secret albums at the peak of my powers.

Here they are all coming to Boxset, fuck it. I know, that is funny. Bruce has tracks two coming out and it is funny that like, I'm embarrassed to be excited because it's all music that he was like, no, this is not good enough. Yeah.

I had this away, but I want to hear that shit. It's also later, these are like 90s albums, so it'll be kind of funny. Are you a Springsteen person? Did you get into the river box set that had like the extra record? Is that extra record? Good? Yeah, it is. Like there was stuff on there that I loved. And then he did like when he played on SNL on that tour, he played

Meet Me in the City. And that was like, that's like a good poppy rock song that you could imagine. I've heard him lament on tracks one, there's a song called rendezvous and that he's, I've heard him in an interview be like, man, I should have put that on the album. That would have been a good one. Like, why didn't you put that on the album now?

I know, like do whatever you want. Yeah, you could just say like, it's a new song. Like, no, dude, take all your albums down, remix them and put them back up. We don't care. Oh my. Do whatever you want. Update the lyrics so that you know. He admitted in his autobiography,

he's very vulnerable in that book, admitting how much he likes success and stuff, where he said when Wrecking Ball came out, like 2011 or whatever, when it wasn't as big as. It suits me. You call me crazy. I love success. An actual billionaire who likes success.

The money, the free food, it suits me. I think we know people in comedy or whoever, like they would like act like they don't care, but they are going for it. But in Bruce's book, he said like Wrecking Ball came out in like 2010, 2011, and he thought it was his best album. And when it wasn't received the same way Born in the USA was, he was crying all the time and he got on antidepressants. And like he realized he was like, oh shit,

like I've been trying to use this music to fill a hole. But like, I liked the idea that he was 60 at the time, thinking like, this is gonna be like my big record. I'm gonna meet Carson Daly. I saw him play Wrecking, I think, for the first time at Metal Land's arena when he was doing those Borg2Run river shows. I watched on YouTube, yeah.

And he's like, yeah, I sold out. He just sold out five shows at the Metal Land's arena. Like nothing. But it's not on Kiss of Him. Oh, Jeff, I want to ask you about your Warsaw shows I was at where I don't have any Warsaw shows. We're talking about a problem all the whole time for me I'm way Try to come up with a funny

Retort to that there's nothing funny Not a comedy podcast Series of shows where you were gonna like keep playing as many nights as it took? Yeah. How did that come to be? And for the audience that doesn't know, you played the Warsaw and Brooklyn for eight nights, eight nights and kind of in a row. Yeah. A suite. A suite. Yeah. We we played a show at Terminal Five in like two thousand twenty three.

I am I like New York. I feel like I'm I'm from Long Island, but also I lived in New York for most of my adult life. So as coming from there, I was like, I just want to play Terminal five at some point, like, let's go. But I know everybody in the city fucking hates going there. I've never been like on the West side. It's not that far. It's on like 50th Street and like 12th or something somewhere around there.

So it's not great. But it's not come on. Like I live in L.A. now and I'm like, Oh, I can't walk for blocks. There's no stores open at 2 a.m. What was me? Anyway, so we played there. And then on a tour like a couple months later, we played a show in New Jersey and Jersey City, and that show sold out super fast.

And there were tickets selling for like 200 bucks online. And I was just like, or and I was like, that fucking sucks. Like, I don't want it like we like, like, yeah, like stuff. And like, no, like me, when I'm talking to her agent, like every tour, I'm getting into an argument like, how do we make it cheaper? How do we keep it at like this like right now is 25 for our shows We're trying to keep it but for so long it was 20 before that for so long was 15 before that Like just really trying to keep it low And so pisses me off when it's so like records like that records to like

When like records go out of print that we did ourselves and they're selling for like hundreds of dollars. Like, God damn it. Like, yeah, I fucking charge soul. I made so money on that thing because I want like broke people. People have it anyway. So I was just like, OK, well, shows are like happy and excited. Yeah. Like, oh, shit, I just like I better have the best time of my life because I spent 200 bucks. I mean, I'm really good at looking at a good situation like a sold out show and be like, oh, no, something's wrong with this. I'm so sad people are excited. But like, anyway, so so I was just thinking like, OK, well, what if we what if we played a show in Brooklyn, not where people don't want to go and just like, well, let's see what would happen. If we just kind of played this place, we've played a million times. So we love playing and tell them like we want to just see how many

we can sell out right in a row. Yeah. Like so you put them on sale. Well, we didn't tell them that. We just said like we want it to keep going until it stops, you know. And then yeah. And then we made it to seven. So seven sold out. We made it to seven. The seventh one didn't sell out until we were doing the shows. And then we had this like, like I, I had to get into it a little bit with the people promoting the show, which just is what it is about like they're like, oh, you better fight like a fucking slam dunk for an opener kind of thing. And I was just like, I was like, I don't know. Like in my head, I was like, oh, this better fight like a fucking slam dunk for an opener kind of thing. And I was just like, I was like, I don't know.

Like in my head, I was like, oh, this is like the funniest possible outcome. Like we play, we do this like crazy, like seven night stand at this venue. And then on the eighth night, we played like 15 people. It's like every show that we've ever played. One of the best. Yeah. And I thought that would be just like a really like, no one's doing that anyway. But and then we ended up getting our friends, AJJ on it and

and it went really good, I think, in in no in no small part due to them playing. We've had our share of like email chains with venues that are like, are you guys going to you guys need local support? You're not selling it. We're like, it's email chains with venues that are like, are you guys going to do you guys need local support? You're not selling it. And we're like, it's an evening with the sloppy boys. And they're like, well, it's not it's going to be an empty evening with them. Like we want to play.

We've been doing like something changed with us recently. A boring evening with the sloppy boys. Bring no one. We started playing these like long shows. We do like two sets of an hour. We're not a jam band, but we're just like, we started playing these like long shows. We do like two sets of an hour. We're not a jam band, but we're just like, we started playing long shows. Once you start, you can't stop. Like, oh, I could do it forever.

We only had 10 songs and now we got, I don't know, 40. Yeah. If you're driving eight hours to Toronto, it's like, let's do two hour show rather than. And also when we were doing comedy, like when we were new to L.A., we would the birthday boy sketch group like we put on our costumes and get our props and go to UCB and do a three-minute sketch and go home so like now I'm like if I'm standing on stage as a 41 year old I'm like I'm here for the night like other I'm gonna go to some merch other than that I'm on stage so you would you

didn't want support? Well, OK, so we've we've from the audience, we love this. No, no, I mean, you did you want to cold open? Did you want to open the show? Yeah, we do. Oh, my God. This is what we do. It sounds like a nightmare to me. What's great is like, we're cool with the first 20 minutes being shit. Like, yeah, we play. Yeah. We played in Seattle recently and we started at six o'clock on a Friday.

People were not out of work. And we were downstairs at the crocodile. Like people are like walking downstairs. It's like opening the doors, it's blinding the light outside and people come to the show. We got, by the end of the show, it was fucking great. But like, it felt like a weird afterschool program when we first started.

That's fun. I think just art in general, like openers and stuff. We haven't had the best luck But it felt like a weird after school program when we first started. That's fun. I think just in general, openers and so on, we haven't had the best luck with that actually bringing people out. So if we had AJJ, we would have done it. Send him our way. I'll tell him AJJ. Open for us in Seattle.

So open your shows in Seattle. Do you program your sets so that the first 20 minutes are like, all right. Well, we put some heavy hitters up top just to kind of get the room excited Sure, since we don't have a right nerds. Yeah, you gotta sort of do your own work Like what I'm doing stand-up and I'm you know out of town and I've got like the host that they book and another opener That's getting no laughs. I have to go be like And what what specific comedians are these that are getting no laughs How we doing? Come on, come on! Get up, get your ass! Come on! How you guys gonna do this shit? Come on! And what specific comedians are these

that are getting no laughs? What'd you say? Oh, I had, who'd I have over here? I had Chappelle and Marin up in front of me. I said, guys, you can't go on stage at the same time. That's the problem. You guys are the cross-talkers. Both saying they're at full material, same time.

Very different style. Yeah. You guys ready for saying they're full material same time. Very different style. Yeah. You guys ready for some booze news? Yeah. B-b-b-b-b-b-boos news. Hit it. Woo. I thank your warm lip for a darkened stomach I slip you a fiber or another screwdriver And leave a mando tip or a mid-chew lip

It is where it goes, well I'm thicker than you doubt Well I'm thicker than you doubt Did my ass run beat so cold And I kissed the bottomless Did my arrow beat some colors? I kiss upon the lips This squeeze is little hips Do some twirls and dips Hold on in my grips To thank them for the sips

Booze. Tom Mellon Collins featuring Kendrick Lamar was sent to us by Drew Pauley. And if you have a Booze News theme, email to the Sloppy Boys podcast at gmail.com. Nice. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Kendrick. Yeah, that was cool. They collabed on that. Sorry about the rights thing, Ken.

Okay. The Booze News, we actually already touched on this topic, which is how like what we like to drink on on a show night. You had some Smyrnaf ice for that second set that one time. But recently there's there's on and that's every night since then. Yeah, GQ has a column called Real Life Diet and they had Stephen Malcomas on recently and they were asking about his diet and he like you know makes carbonara with his kids and it was really cute and stuff but then here they said what's the most surprising thing he's doing with the

hard quartet what's the most surprising thing on the hard quartet rider and Malcolm says it's pretty basic dude there aren't any surprises I had nothing to do with it I just like sparkling water I'll What's the most surprising thing on the hard quartet writer? And Malcolm says, it's pretty basic, dude. There aren't any surprises. I had nothing to do with it. I just like sparkling water. I'll have San Pellegrino, La Croix. I like some whiskey or tequila. I like to take one shot before I go on stage just to shake out the cobwebs.

And then he goes on to talk about sometimes he's like had a big mouth. You only get one shot. He says if he has a couple more tea or something before a show that then he has a shitty time He's like had a big only get one shot Before a show that then he has a shitty time out there so he does more than one Yeah, he does one shot of tequila or bourbon and how many drinks do the audience bring up during the show? I think zero is bring up during the show. This is our show That's a good show. Yeah, it is a good show. If you buy us shots, you can come on stage and do a shot with us.

So a lot of people want their... Well, a lot of them are too shy and they forget that last part. That's true. And they just sit there like... They just leave. We come out. We'll like take an intermission and come out. And there'll be like three little pods of three shots left on the stage. One of our latest recent shows. I should say we did. I did a shot and I was like,

well, okay, we gotta get back to a song. And somebody was like, there's more shots. And I was like, one her song. I just slugged it. Snapping at them. But yeah, he said that if he drinks too much before a show, he feels like he's surviving, not thriving. But he said he does need one shot just to shake off the cop rub.

Do you have like a pre show ritual? Nothing. Really? Nothing. I used to I mean, I used to be like fucking wasted all the time during bottom music industry. Yeah. And then the last book for, you know, because it's just like, get, you know, shake out the cobwebs, not be anxious while you're playing that kind of stuff. And then for some reason, during like the last year or so of it, I was like, I want to start not drinking before we play

because I want to feel really anxious while we play. I want to go there and feel terrible and see and like you have to make it better. You know, just know, like, try and get it out, like, try and exercise. The demons are just trying to like stare at the songs about being anxious and shit. Just like, all right, I want to fucking let's go. I don't think it was like a decision made with like sound mental health or anything. But like, but ever since then, now it's just like I can't drink

before we play. I'll be so fucking bad. I'll get if I drink one, I'll be so tired. And also'll get if I drink one, I'll be so tired. And also, I feel like I've become a kind of person where when I drink or when I smoke weed, like that is like, OK, work time is done. But your body, your brain, your brain is shut off because if I don't, I mean, look, and maybe there's a way to do it without drinking. But like usually that's something that helps me from my brain just like spiraling and spiraling and spiraling.

Sure. But now, so like if I drink before we play, like, and I do, I weirdly, when I was playing bass in the Bruce Lee band, like I drink a few beers and I kind of had to, kind of like felt like I was a little too on edge unless I did, but like in my own stuff, like, I don't know, I'm like, I'm not not great shape and I'm running around

and playing these like two hour sets of shit. Like I don't drink before that. I don't drink either myself, but before the podcast, live podcast I would just to loosen up. Because you can kind of hide behind like playing something or for me, playing and singing and then starting to drink on stage rather than than I feel like I don't have a good grip of where I am. I think Tim and I do like one before the show.

Yeah. Yeah. If I don't do any, I feel weird. But I also did a thing that I you guys also we've come out to like starting to do like like more of a rap song or like sort of a karaoke lonely island approach to some of our stuff. Yeah. I just feel like such a fucking I feel like we have a douchebag going out and like trying to dance Stone Cold. So that's what you're talking about having no opener. That's when it starts to get a little like, come on, folks.

And you're like, yeah, yeah, we're going out on a table. And people are like, mm hmm. I feel like like I don't I we haven't like opened with a rap song or anything like that, but like I definitely like opened where I've been in that like something like that, where I've been drunk and I'm going so fucking hard. And then I'm just like after like 30 seconds like, oh, God, like I'm going to die up here. Oh, so yeah, I'll have one before the on-court.

Whatever as my jazz band teacher, alto sax first tier, by the way. Oh, so yeah, I'll have one before the on-court, whatever. My jazz band teacher, alto sax, first chair by the way. So fellow sax man. I never got there, I was alto sax. Third chair. No shit, wait, I thought you were a tenor man. I play tenor now and I played tenor in our jazz band. Can't find the tenor man.

But he used to say to his class of, this is junior high. This isn't even high class of this is junior high. This isn't even high school. This is junior high. Mr. Wilhelm Walters. That's from sign. Warton doesn't matter. Mr. W always used to say, two drinks, you'll play the best jazz of your life.

Three and it's terrible. Interesting. Interesting. Maybe that's just for him. I should hit him up and be like, what about six or seven? He's like, my man, you're Thelonious is that boy? Yeah. I like, I think that with no drinks,

but the thing that I do that you guys, like we all wear sunglasses a lot, but you guys take them off. I need those shades to have, if I'm not drinking, I need the separation if I'm gonna do a funny rave race. Somebody's face like, shades help, like just have a wall up. Sure. But there is something to, you know, like meeting the room halfway and then bringing them with it.

Like we were just before we were recording, we're talking about our friend, Chris Farron, who even in a teeny little show is still like put in on like he's just going nuts. And that was really inspiring to me to see. And I go nuts. Sometimes I like to just pretend like, I can't see the people through my sunglasses at all. And I'm just pretending I'm Bruce Springsteen. So I'm just going to that.

But we have it a couple of times. We played a show in Pittsburgh that was packed, sold out, but pretty stiff. And I felt like we did a good job of not ignoring that. But we were like, maybe it is an intimate show and then we kind of found them and then we brought them with you can't go down too much and let it feel like this is a bummer night yeah but I do think if you're going at a 10 and they're at a 1 you then they're like they're checked out yeah they're not

gonna catch up there's a certain kind of desperation when you're going out of 10 and they're like not meeting you there. You just got to keep going. The thing I always tell myself is like when they're doing that, I'm like, I have to remind myself that they don't know each other because I'll be like, right at audience. And it's like, no, they're strangers. It's a bunch of couples. They couldn't convince their girlfriend to come or any other friends, but it's like they didn't decide to be uptight tonight.

I'm doing a bad job. Right. And like, it really does. You do own that. Yeah, it does kind of like it always feels like, yeah, lands on you. Like, yeah, maybe maybe I'm not doing good enough. Like people are texting or talking to you like a quiet song like that. Maybe it should fucking be better. Yeah. I just did a standup workshop where I was in Florida

and a woman, older woman, yawned like in the front row. I was like, man, I'm sorry, but you can't yawn in this show. You know you can't yawn. The show's like, I'm so sorry, I worked late. I was like, you can't do that. I worked late. So wait, Tim, was there booze news? The booze news with Stephen Mockma's thing

would lead to a fruitful conversation. This is great. A successful booze news segment, and now we turn our attention to the main event. Oh, yeah. Yes. The drink of the day is- 42 minutes in, we can turn our attention to the main event.

We're going to bump it. We don't have time for it. Who is the Cajun mix person? Me. Hey, this is my favorite. This Who is the Cajun mix person? Me. Hey, this is my favorite. This is a top snack. Sweet and spicy. And I picked out peanuts that have the little red paper

still on them, too. I'm trying to turn this place into a dive bar slowly. You picked these peanuts? Who picked these peanuts out? I picked them out one at a time. What the hell? OK, the Long Island iced tea. This was a drink of your choosing. What's your relationship with it? When did you first have it? Do you have it? Is it, is it, I never

got the sense that Long Island really owns it very much. But like, what's your relationship with the drink? I just, it's just the drink from Long Island. I didn't. Yeah, it's it's just I don't know. I don't know that I have a relationship with the drink, but I think it very well represents the people of Long Island, especially that they disown it. That's like a big one.

I was like, disown your Long Islandiness. And also, like, I feel like anybody who's from Long Island can just like turn into a chaos monkey. Yeah. Like if like at the drop of a hat, like anybody you know from Long Island is a problem. Right. And you're like, what the fuck just happened? So do you know John Gabris, comedian? He's from Freeport, I want to say. Yeah. And he was like a lifeguard. That's a town over for me. I'm from Baldwin. I know what I'm nuts say. Yeah. And he was like a a lifeguard. That's a town over for me. I'm from Baldwin. I know what I'm nuts in my mouth.

So I couldn't page in next. Encouraged. Chomp all you want. But he so we had this drink once before with him. But similar thing like he didn't have any hometown pride for it. But as a bartender, he went to Marist in Poughkeepsie. OK. And he had stories of like pissing in the bar. Remember like ordering drinks and then just like pissing straight into-

People would piss right into the side of the bar. I've done this. Yeah! So, at a party that Wes Anderson was DJing in New Year's Square. Wes! Jeff! Wes!

Jeff! Wes! Jeff, Wes! We're yelling at Jeff because he's like, Jeff, Wes, get down from there. And I was drunk enough to be pissing against the bars, so take with a grain of salt. But I remember it being a pretty normal ass DJ night. Not harpsichord. No, I thought it was going to be all act on his shit.

And it was just like, OK, here's that Strokes song again. And then there's it was just like okay. Here's that stroke song. Yeah The kinks it was in New York. Yeah, I was at a bar in Union Square somewhere I don't fucking I don't remember gabers was telling us another time about this bar He was at where he was there and the deal was anyone could like drink for free or ten cent drinks or something Yeah, but as soon as someone went to the bathroom the deal was off People were like trying if you went outside to pee, you couldn't come back. Sort of a 40 hands clause. Exactly. Oh, yeah. That's what I think people were just peeing on the floor. I can drink all night if I hide my piss. It was crowded.

But yeah, so I've had like a few long island ice teas, I guess In my youth where my wife went to school in Oneonta There was a bar that would have either it was like $5 or like $10 long island ice tea pitchers or thing called 911 which was a long island ice tea, but with Kool-Aid instead and I think possibly 151 instead and I think possibly 151. That's the room in there. Oh boy. Oneonta. Wow.

What's the school, is there a SUNY in Oneonta? Yeah, SUNY Oneonta. SUNY Oneonta. SUNY Oneonta. My parents are big fans of Brooks Barbecue Chicken in Oneonta, so I guess a lot of chatter in my, a lot of threatening that we're gonna go to Oneonta and eat barbecues.

We never make it out there. No! Ah! Okay, so same thing, like I've only had a handful of Long Islands, but it's not. I don't even think to order it because it's so it seems so like it's insane. Where do you ever see it on a menu? Yeah. Buffalo Wild Wings only is it on the menu at Wild Wings?

Yes. Oh, sure. Only it's because I feel like it's not encouraging. I feel like when I order it, you don't see it at the Dresden. Do you order it? Do you get I order it like in the't see it at the Dresden. Do you order it? Do you get, I order it like in the, well, we were, we were on VE, we spent the 4th of July. We were in like the Hamptons on the 4th of July.

Sick, and against it. Yeah, we saw the Winklevoss brothers play at Stephen Talkhouse. Sick, this is all great. It was the best show we've ever been to. $50 cash. They had like a tricked out tour bus for a cover band. It was the best show we've ever been to. $50 cash. They had a trip down to her bus for a cover band. It was so funny.

Playing Rage Against the Machine, by the way. The Winkleblossom others playing and killing in the name. Insane. Sick. On that trip, because I was like, this is Long Island. I'm going to order some Long Island. So we'd be in Montauk or whatever, at the Crow's Nest, some fancy place. And I'd ask for one.

I always got a look because, A, it's like not classy, but I think that anywhere bartenders know that you're either trying to get fucked up or you're being like cheap. Cause I do think that I sometimes, I'll get like a Zombie or a Long Island if I'm like, it's a busy bar and I'm not gonna wanna order again tonight.

Cause it's just like, here's my whole night in one glass. Bang for your buck. The IPA theory, where it's like this beer has got 8%. That was not 4%. Why wouldn't I get the one that has 8%? I that has never crossed my mind. And I'm like a late logger guy, but then I have to drink as much and I have to piss in the bar all the time. Okay, so the real quickly, the history of

this drink is funny that it's it's from the 1970s. There's this bar in Hampton Bays called the Oak Beach Inn East because there was one in Jones Beach, Oak Beach Inn West. But the Hampton Bays in the 70s, there was a guy named Bob Butt who invented this drink. Don't laugh at that. He hates that. There's a great- I'm laughing at the joke. No, I'm not. Fine. I forget the joke. Now I get it. Fine. And he gets that. Everyone should watch on YouTube.

There's like a series of like PBS Inventor series and they're like, we're talking to Bob, but it was a triple sec like competition. His boss was like, Hey, we got a lot of triple sec. Who can make a drink with trick triple sec. And he made this drink. It has a hundred other ingredients, we got a lot of triple sec. Who can make a drink with triple sec? And he made this drink. It has 100 other ingredients, but one of them is triple sec. And then it took off. And he didn't capitalize on it at all.

He made none of the money, and it just sort of spread. And he's still a bartender in Hampton Bays, and is really cool about it. And he's an inventor. How do you? You can't copyrighted drink. That's not how that works. Right. Try and stop me from making a lot of Mr. But some you know, who did there's one like rum brand.

Is it like oh, oh, oh, dark and stormy is Gosling's rum. They but they just like spend their whole lives trying to litigate this legislation a dark and stormy is supposed to have gosselin's dark room so they they will look at menus and all across the world calling it a dark and stormy and it doesn't have their room in it they go after them and you go to prison and not in America not anymore. It'll sell. Should we make these? Let's do it. Folks, we'll be right back after this. And now you play ads.

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I'm going to click. I'm going to go for it. Weirdly turns into iced tea somehow. If I follow my mom's butt's recipe correctly. Mr. Putt, here's to you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Now, you're telling me there's no Lipton in there? I snuck out when you guys weren't looking, I put some Lipton in there. There's no celestial seasonings in there? I thought you said, you're telling me there's no liquor in there? That's not what I'm telling you.

What? I remember the first time I heard of this was in the movie Cruel Intentions. Have you seen that? Never. Ryan, Phillip. I've also never seen it. You ever seen Cruel Intentions? Sure. OK, but like Salma, not Salma, Salma Blair.

So yeah, I remember. I just didn't miss Sarah Michelle. So some of Blair is drinking and she was like, this iced tea is really good. And Ryan Fleeves is like, yes, from Long Island. And you can tell me she's like getting her drunk. That was for the parents. That's a cool intention. Now that's a cool intention. The titular scene.

I know I saw an episode of The Simpsons recently. I don't remember. Oh, yeah. You must remember which one it was where Marge is drinking Long Island ice teas to disassociate from what everybody else is doing. She's like, do they move up to the Silicon Valley or something? That's when she's drinking wine. This is like Homer and Bart are getting up to some shit.

It starts where she's at a comedy club, and she's heckling, drinking Long Island ice teas. And then. It was the one where Homer's the, or Kr and she's heckling that drinking Long Island ice teas and then it was the lower homers. The sort of crusty is a stand up that one. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't remember exactly large. I don't remember enough. I just remember there's a there's something she's like chill about. And well, you got Lisa's like, is that a long island ice tea right there?

She's like, I guess it is. And then just drinks the whole thing down. Is it like a later season? Like, yeah, probably not that late, like in between in the nether regions of like nine to 13. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The awkward. Everyone has their own moment where they think it lost it,

you know, like along that stretch. Yeah. Folks, they're so good episodes sprinkled around that stretch. But it got really good in the New York one. I think that's season 10 maybe. But oh, Magic Palace. Huh? Palace. Someone's a magician.

No, it's a location. And oh, aha. Wait, what are you? Why are you looking? Wait, what are you looking at? You look at the Simpsons wiki. He's going through each show description. The great money caper. Well, you know what why Marge probably liked those

long, nice t's because she could hide them in that hairdo she had, which was so, so unique. So unique a hairdo. I'm always in another episode, you were ranting about how tall Marge's hair is. I don't think it's tall, I think it's perfect. Season 12, episode seven, The Great Money Caper. Homer, along with his son Bart,

conned people out of their money in order to pay for Homer's broken car. Yeah. Oh, but then they continue grifting. Oh, it goes on in a Breaking Bad like fashion. Oh, the initial problem is solved, but they double down on the bad behavior. But there was no Breaking Bad at the time. I'm happy they framed it in context of like Breaking Bad. So I can understand. Well, I'm glad you did. Thank you. It made can understand. That was an OK. OK. Now I'm glad you did. Thank you, Jeff.

It made us clear. I had no idea. My 20, 25 years, like what? Speaking of animation, you do the music for Craig of the Creek, right? I did before David Zazalov bought the company and got rid of all the kids' cartoons. We have a common enemy.

Because he's fucking evil. I didn't know that was gone. Hire me. Were you also because you did like the theme where you're also full on like scoring? Yeah, I composed all the music for all fucking hundred twenty something

hundred. There is a crazy amount of something. Is there stuff where you like are looking at the animatic and adding music to that or you starting with the music and then they're like editing to you or I already looking at the animatic and adding music to that? Or are you starting with the music and then they're like editing to you? I'm looking at locked picture.

I worked most closely with one of the creators, Ben Levin, who was really nice to me like early on, he was sending me animatics and temps. And I was just like, can you just send me the locked picture? Don't send me any of the temp, because I'm not. He thought he was getting you in the headspace and stuff, or what? Just be like, okay, well here's a piece of the Lord

of the Rings score that we put in here, so do something like that. And then me, on my computer trying to make the Lord of the Rings score by myself. And then as your point, I think I'm just gonna do a better job of I'm just going to do a better job of like, I'm not trying to make this. And he was like, OK, yeah, sure.

Ben Rocks. I love Ben. That's cool. Ben, if you're listening to this, hi, Ben. And he doesn't have like demo-itis where like you give something and he's like, ah, we really were going for something more like this in the demo.

No, I mean, I'll get notes. You know, it's real. You get notes. But I always tried not. I always like had this phantom idea like, oh, maybe this time I'm not going to get notes. You know, it's real. You get notes. But I was trying to not I always like have this had this phantom idea like, Oh, maybe this time I'm not going to get notes. Well, like, of course, you know, you're trying to hit something that start you off in your notes, like a direction of like, Hey, this

scene, we would do a spotting session. Okay, we'll watch it together. We would have like an hour long talk about like punk and work and working on this crazy show that was like on Cartoon Network and just like the dealing, like doing that because it's crazy. And then eventually we watched the episode together, talk about where the music should go, what the music should be.

But we had a lot of the same frames of reference from Scott Punk going into it. And then that show, I feel like every episode, someone who was involved in making the art for the episode or like the story for the episodes, like, okay, what if we just made a completely crazy and completely different than everything else we've done? Like episode after episode so quickly became like this, like every kind of music every cartoon network show is

like, let's just do something crazy. Yeah, it's fucking sick. It's sick. I love it. It's cool. That's the promise of animation. is it not? Yeah. Yeah. But like it. I haven't seen even a whole episode, but I've listened to a bunch of music and seen a bunch of clips and it's like, it seems like you can kind of do whatever you want or the show demands that you kind of do like a lot of different stuff. Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah, that's it.

I think there is a point where it's like. I'm trying to lie. Just a few episodes, like probably like five through episodes, five through 10 out of 180 or whatever. Or I was like, okay, well just doing like scoff punk is not, it's or like whatever I could do with that, like, uh, palette, like this is not gonna work. Like I, like I want to my like, it's hard to have like a dramatic scene and you're still doing like upstroke guitars.

Yeah, I mean, there's I try. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. And also, like, I just want I wanted to take it really seriously. I thought like, you can't the so like when the show would go off the rails, which was often it's because it's in the kids imagination. I think like, if I'm in on the joke that their kids like it's not funny anymore. So it was, I was just really always trying hard to make it feel like, all right, well,

what if this was a real anime episode? What would the music be? What if this was a real adventure Indiana Jones thing? What would it be? And it was cool because they were always psyched that I was trying to do that. They were just like, oh shit, yeah, that's cool that you could do it, and I got to learn how to do it

and now I could do it and now I have no job. And you also like, you got like, you know, string sections and stuff, right? Like that's fucking awesome. For the movie I got an orchestra. Yeah, they, they shout out Rocy shout out Lisa, any the producers really like trusted me. How many pieces?

I think all in all is probably around 50 or 60. We didn't. We did. We did like strings, winds and brass in different combination. Yeah. Separately over the month over the course of three days. And me and Jack Shirley, who's a guy who recorded all of our records, we were just like, all right,

I bet we can figure out how to do this. And the first day was fucking crazy. It was like the most. It was just like, it right, I bet we can figure out how to do this. Yeah. And the first day was fucking crazy. It was like the most it was just like, it's like all these people, all these pros are like on the clock and they're ready to go. And they're like, all right, Bart, we're doing Q number one, four, oh three and twelve bar to one thousand sixty two. Give me eight clicks and be a joker like, OK, OK, OK, OK. You eventually got there.

Anything with them or? Well, the band played. So the death rose in stock, okay, okay. But eventually, we got there. Anything with him or? Well, the band played. So the Death Rosenstock band, my friends who have been in my band forever, Mike John and Kevin and Dan, we laid down rock band score. The goal, the thing was to have it be a punk, to have Sky All Men's for it to be a punk band,

but also have a Tycho drum ensemble, which we had, and also, which was San Jose Taiko, and then also have an orchestra in there. What's Taiko? It's the giant big drums. Oh, gotcha, they're like Japanese, right? Yeah, yeah, giant big Japanese drums. You've seen them in Fortnite.

I, in Fortnite? Yeah, I'm talking about- I got to hit a drum that's probably like too big to fit into this room. It was pretty fun. You let me hit it. Damn, I in the LA Marathon one year. Wow, they had a right near century. So thank you Right in your century city. I think it was they had a big tight Tyco Tyco Tyco Tyco drum like group That's like really got you going like yeah

Like and like a high school like for this one mile is great. And like a high school marching band, it was really fun. I remember hearing that you were on Craig of the Creek and I remember back when we were kids, we kind of took it for granted that like tiny tunes and Animaniacs were scored. Right. Yeah.

And then like the rise of the music library kind of took over when we had a show and we did have a composer for like select pieces. Yeah, but not score. Yeah, exactly. So if like we were writing a comedy song, like a Beatles parody or like a or whatever, Eben Schleder was our guy. He came from Mr. Show. Bob, Bob brought him in. And so and he we probably had him do like 12 pieces a year, let's say. Okay. Then other than then other than that, you're stuck working with library music. Do you mean like royalty free music or like needle drop kind of like, let's license a

few songs? Yeah, license. Like jingle punks, APM music, whatever. Yeah, the APM archive or whatever was something that the network I think paid for. Maybe Abso had an account with them or something. But it was funny because I think we thought it was like this like fake music, but then you would find they were like bands that just like sold their song. If their song sounded like pop punk 101, then it would like sell. Yeah.

I mean, like it's weird if you're a working musician, there's not really a lot of jobs you can have. And like, you know, I feel like, you know, there's probably a stigma to making that kind of music, but also just like, I don't fucking know. Like, what the hell are you going to do? A lot of that stuff is like has been placed in other things of the past and is just finding a new life now. Like you're joining the Paramount Library and then already interesting.

Like, I wonder if you could. I don't know if you care or want to. But like if you're sitting on a ton of just a different. I never made a library, Jeff. They kept telling me like you need to put your stuff in a library. And I just keep writing new every all like 180 or whatever. Episodes is new music. Just hard drives in a shell. Maybe like four percent of it, like I pulled from other shit.

And like I tried to keep some melodic motifs and stuff like that. But like I would just oh, the kids are moving at a different pace. They were saying different shit. So I just be like, it felt easier to like ride the wave of like what was happening versus like, what episode did I play a scoffing? Yeah, I think that also like kind of like leads you to write stuff you wouldn't otherwise write if you're like, oh, the pace of the scene is kind of different. For sure. This kid's like, like drawn, not the way I was picturing it.

So I'm going to like make it kind of sad or whatever. Yeah, lucky they they're lucky to have you in says that fucked up. I was lucky to have that job. I missed that job a lot. I got a question for you. Oh, my God. This is never happened. Sure. Look, I'm looking at this in drag. I mean, where are we out with our I know I'm slugging this thing.

No, half of it. All right. It's the Japs got to catch know, I'm slipping this thing down halfway. All right. The Jeff's gotta catch up. Okay, okay. Egg slurps. Mm. Marge Simpson sips. Have you seen that hair do?

It's big, right? I've only seen the flashback episode. It's blooming. It's blooming. It's blooming. You guys only see the flashback. Why is everyone talking about Marge's hair? I wanna watch it cartologically, and I want to save a lot from.

That's really funny. Wait, I was going to say, oh, yes, when I listen to music, I'm always like, I'm going to lay it on thick here for you. But I love that you're you've got such like dense lines of lyrics and stuff. And you're a master of melody and you've got these really. That changes and thanks. Have you ever thought of or maybe you've done before written a musical that wrote a musical for Craig of the Creek?

There you go. Yeah, so I get a musical episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so only 11 minutes long. So I guess I guess not really. But I do. I don't have any ideas. I feel like after Craig was, I've been like, hey, so you should read musicals. Like, all right. Well, I kind of like low key thing. Musicals suck.

And it is fun when you get somebody. But like, but it can be good. Like, I'm trying to figure out what's the I don't know. Like, I'm not even trying to figure it out. Yeah But my name is our school of rock on Broadway. So you're steeped in When I say musical suck I've also like was in all the musicals in my high school and like Me too, I was the narrator I was the steward You're just fine that you're in this thing together. Now. We went to the same high

school. I did babes in Toyland. I did sound and music. Our buddy Mitch was in. You're a good man. Charlie. You're a good man. Charlie Brown. Oh, he's underrated musical. I like the music is good. Yeah. So wait, when you wrote the Craig of the Creek episode, did the writers room just like take the day off? No, it was sick. It was like, first of all, I came out to LA and I was like, oh, you got to move here. That's beautiful. And I would go to the Craig of the Creek office and me and Jeff Trammell, Matt Burnett, Ben Levin, this guy Zach, and I think Ash, Najah, and Deshawn and Ronan, whoever was working on the episode, a bunch

of people, we'd sit in a room and we'd just be like, all right, well, what's going to happen? What are the scenes? What's happening in this episode? We kind of came up with it. And I feel like that first day, I was like, OK, well, these are what these two songs are going to be about. And then I went back to my Airbnb in North Hollywood.

I recorded all of it, including guide vocals. I'm just screaming my head off in this Airbnb. And then I went back in the next day. Piano or guitar you're writing on? I got my laptop, and I'm doing all of it. I'm doing like amp sims with guitar and bass, programmed drums. And then I'm building the whole thing.

Like what you, it's on digital services or whatever. What you hear on that soundtrack is what I record in that Airbnb. Which also, this is just like, that part of it was kind of a bit like the first like 20 episodes of the show I did on a laptop because I thought it was funny to do it in the hardest way possible with like this computer that was always breaking even that I was like it'll be cool later on if like yeah this musical because I was not like yeah well like kids they do things like within their means so like I wanted to

do it like that but like nobody knew I did it like that like you'd fucking know. It's the same thing like wow no we had to like bring this whole UFO out on the streets ourselves yeah yeah like new or cared. We actually shot on old shitty VHS cameras that broke down like all the time. I know the effort like a viewer has no idea you want to shake it. Don't you understand? It's hard. That's why it's good. But like so I made like, I think one or two demos the first day and then I sent them over. And then that night they're like, yeah, sounds great. And then I went in the next day and did another one. It just like happened four or five days super fast.

It was really like easy and fun and rewarding. It was like great. That's it. It was cool for me because like, I don't know. I'm fucking banned. I don't ever get to do like going. You just go into the Cartoon Network building for me early on. It was like, wow, this is amazing. Like talking to talking to. Yeah. I'm talking to like all the animators and stuff,

like all the storyboard artists and all the everybody in production, like the writers and actors like ever. Anytime I talk to them, which is like, it is so fucking cool what you're doing. And it's always fun being like an animation or an artist's like office and stuff, because they've got just fun toys everywhere. Like the workstations are covered with these. Yeah. Yeah. I went to a thing with Mitch. God, what was it called? Legacy effects. These are the people who used to be at Stan Winston Studios that did like the Jurassic Park and Predator and Terminator and like Stan. And like like we go through and it's like looking at Santa's Village is just like,

I can get my picture taken with a raptor or Darth Vader or whatever. And like this is their job. So their job is, you know, they got a computer and it's surrounded by all these cool action figures and stuff, but it's still their job. So I go through and like, wow. And they're like, not miserable, but still, but a job. You know? It feels to me like, you know, when we were on a tour there and we're like, you know what?

I can kind of understand when big celebrity mega hit stars are like, I can't, I'm exhausted of understand when big celebrity mega hit stars like I can't I'm exhausted I'm going to the hospital for exhaustion. Yeah, I get how that happens like how the hell is Madonna exhausted? She's so rich and now you're like, yeah, you're absolutely exhausted Yeah, but do you see yourself kind of going down the mark mother's Bob path? Yeah, I see myself doing going backwards and doing Devo. I can see one of those. I bet you could join Devo 2.0. They're looking for a dad for, you know, do you know about Devo 2.0?

It's just their kids. Kids. Oh, for real? Yeah. Oh wow. So you'd be like, Hey, I'm not a kid. They're like, step aside. It works. I mean, is doing that, too. I think the ween kids got together like me. Smart, smart branding all around. And music is all about branding. I should have gotten those Devo hats for those little Tupperware hats. Yeah, I would do it in a fucking second.

I don't think that's like an option that I get to choose. You know, I think like, yeah, sure. Higher fee. Yeah. But I saw, I didn't see, I edited a video of a boxer who was like, this is like for a COVID day job GQ video where like some boxer was talking about. GQ, they actually did that interview with Steven Malcomis that we talked about earlier today.

Interesting. GQ's a lot of interesting stuff. I was thinking of getting some of that. GQ owners of Pitchfork Media. Interesting. Oh, it all makes sense. Interesting stuff. I was thinking of getting some of my. GQ owners of Pitchfork Media. Hey, what? Hey. Yeah. There we go.

Oh. Pitchfork Media. Oh. That's wild. They didn't even rate us. They didn't even bother to rate us. What? I think you got to be on a label, man.

Ah. Also, yeah. Do they even do that anymore? Yeah. What, review stuff? Yeah. Yeah. But they're like. They like my band now. They didn't like Bomb the Music Industry at all. Yeah, I remember. And that anymore? What, review stuff? Yeah. But they're like.

They like my band now. They didn't like bomb the music industry at all. Yeah, I remember. And I was like, ehh. And I'm like, oh, thank you. Well, that was in their era. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, that's the era.

Yeah, there's a lot of resentment that now I have to let go of, but also, you know, it's part of me. It's GQ now. Oh, wait, but this boxer was saying, as you get older, you need to add things to your to your toolkit because there are these guys who are just really

good at getting hit in the head. Yeah. And then at a certain point, you can't keep getting hit in the head. You got a bob. You got a wee. Yeah, yeah. You know, that movie, Selfpaw, the Jake Gyllenhaal movie,

is about a guy, a Boston fighter who was just really good at outlasting. And then at a certain point, he got too old to just be the outlast guy. So we had to learn like add new things to his tool belt. And so it's a I like to see somebody who's just like, yeah, I'm gonna bin and it's all DIY and I do this shit. And then becoming becoming like the score guy musical guy. And I also liked hearing Stephen from Pop Pop writing. I didn't know that he was writing songs as just like a songwriter for other artists.

Yeah, like that's like a like Rivers, like Springsteen Prince. We could go on and on. But I got to go all the way up the fucking world chart. Jimmy World. But expanding the toolkit is like, I love hearing stories about that and seeing how people do it. Yeah, I thought we were lucky to be able to do it.

Because before, in between Bond, Music, and History, what I'm doing now, I was like, OK, I wanted to do what Steph was doing. I was like, OK, that would be cool. Write songs for other people. Or write jles or write like yeah, whatever the fuck and I would like Submit songs to movies and they would just not write me back and I wouldn't get a demo fee Whoever made the movie if I stay starring Chloe Moretz This one guy

who's the singer of that band Telekinesis I don't know if you know this guy Adam Schur is a nice guy but he was just getting all the jobs I was like why are they asking? Why are they asking anybody else? Just hire this guy. You like him. Another guy I've been hearing a lot about, we've been listening to a lot of making of music podcasts on the road and stuff

The guy from one way or the other. Making of music podcasts? Like Switched on Pop and stuff like that? No I don't know the road and stuff. The guy from one making of music podcasts switched on pop and like stuff like that. No, I don't know any of this. I like I was sending some good. I don't know enough podcasts. Song Exploder. So I said not for me when I tried to be on Song Exploder. What the fuck did you do?

What song did you give or did you have? I don't know. Our publicist was like, hey, please. And he's like, oh, fuck. Although did you ever hear the Rivers Quam episode? It was, I don't know. Our publicist was like, hey, please. And he's like, oh. I don't know, fuck him. Although, did you ever hear the Rivers Quoma episode of Song Exploder? It's one of the best things I've heard in my fucking life. It was, I love Song Exploder until they rejected me. I don't even care about- You lost a fan.

I don't know. Damn. The way our numbers are down. Look, Rivers, I would love to listen to Rivers talk about anything, but Summer, Elaine, and Drunk Dory wouldn't have been like my choice. No, yeah. But it was cool to to Rivers talk about anything, but Summer, Elaine and Drunk Dory wouldn't have been like my choice. No, listen. It was cool to hear him talk about like, yes, specifically that he writes his guitar parts

by singing so that he doesn't fall back on all vice versa. Our keyboard player, Dan P thinks of that as all like a troll that none of that's real. I could see that being the case as well. I can see it going either way. well. I could see it going. I'm like 50 50 either way. Yeah. River's pulling the epic troll. Damn, he got us. He got us.

He went to Harvard. That's a troll. He majored in troll. We directed, we made the, his funny or die video. You wrote, Tim, you wrote it. Was he funny or? He was, he was good. Well, he was in good hands.

But the whole time we were shooting, he kept kind of like doodling on a on a note card like he'd like walk over and we're like, like between shots. Oh, wait, wait, wait. We should say you wrote the sketch so that his character had no cards. Right. And so so the real life guy had his lines written on said note cards. Right. And so the real life guy had his lines written on said note cards. That's very clever. That is good directing.

And this is why this play or die video is not in the crypt, it's in a mortal. But he kept, so he had these cards in his hand and then he'd like, any downtime, he'd be like, doodling. He'd be like, what's this little guy up to? So as soon as we wrapped and when he he left me and Jeff ran over to this little card, like, what was he doodling all day? Like, is it gonna be a funny cartoon?

It was math. He was doing like a number tree. All that where you break down with a multiple. Yeah. He put a huge number up top and then he was like breaking it down to little factors all day. I divided by two divided by three. But that's exactly what you want him to be doodling. That's crazy that that's the map that it was. I figured it was like a goodwill hunting style equations.

I do still have the factor tree note card. Damn. Well, hey, brag. You're gonna get that right. Oh, but I brought this up because Weezer had a failed Fox pilot. What? They're working on a movie now. Really? And now they're working on a movie. So they're all about the pilot was about around seasons. Am I right about this?

No, is it? Is that what it is? I don't know if that's true. The Fox. I just want to say, I don't know. I know something about Weezer where they didn't do it. The Fox pilot was autobiographical about his tenure at Harvard. Oh, that sounds like that was also one of those things. It was like a deadline variety story. But who knows how by the way, like, I think I sent you.

We found the pilot and it's like they recast it instead of being like a deadline variety story, but who knows how far. And by the way, like I think I sent you, we found the pilot and it's like they recast it instead of being like a sincere like emo guy, they put like a Russell Brandish like British sexy rock star goes to Harvard, which just kind of ruins the whole idea of what we're doing here in the fucking first place. But now, so I don't know what the movie is, but as of today.

I heard that they shot that the same time that they were shooting that Jason Lee and Tom Green movie. And you kind of see the productions in the back. What's the Jason Lee Tom Green stealing Harvard? Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Joe Pesci. Is that like unhoused Joe Pesci? I know that's with honors. Oh, fuck.

We got to watch a lot of movies. Which actually Home Alone is in the universe of with honors, that's where he goes off to do that. So anyway, new Weezer movie. The only thing I saw on it just today, loosely doom scrolling through my phone is that Keanu Reeves is the villain in it. Oh, interesting. Interesting, I saw that too. But maybe maybe he's playing his Dogstar self.

Oh, did they cross? Did Weezer and Dogstar? Yeah, I can't imagine Dogstar being evil, though. Come on. Dog, we are open for Dogstar and like a crucial early gig. And then that's why when they when we are played Lodge Room last year, they tell us, tell him, Tim, we were. So we got a lot of we got bumped. We had a we had a bump. We had a juicy Lodge Room date and we got bumped and they were like, we can't say why.

And then it was the blue album 30th anniversary. Oh, I thought you got bumped on the Weezer show for Dogstar. We got bumped out of Dogstar. We got bummed for Dogstar. But so but that damn. We got bumped out of Dogstar, man. We got bumped for Dongstar. But that was like a story from like the 90s that they had opened for Dogstar and some big gig of theirs. But Neal Campbell texted me recently that he was driving by Los Globos in Echo Park.

And he saw the sign said, Dogstar featuring Weezer. So maybe they were shooting some exteriors. So maybe Keanu, it's kind of funny if then they had Keanu be the villain in the movie or something. I feel like you do it. Maybe they're de-aging him. Cause it's like. Keanu?

Yeah, cause it's like we have a built in star. He actually was in a pivotal moment. We're going to put the beads on his face and turn them into like young Professor X version. Do you feel you need to age Keanu Reeves? It seems like he's he's doing pretty he's just basically very good. But people just look at him and be like, that's John Wick.

Do you see the Indiana Jones deaged movie? Crystal Skull? No, the next one. I didn't see it. I have a crazy Indiana Jones. Wait, was that the one with fleabag ranking the fleabag person? Yes. It's the latest one is your favorite. No, but but uh, Temple of Doom is best or worst or best. The best one is Temple of Doom. Second best one is the Raider of Arks.

Third Raider of Arks. Third best one is Crystal Skull. Fourth best one is whatever the fuck the fucking third one was. OK. And then fifth best one is the fifth one. But that's only because I was shamed about putting the third one last. So you're not a fan of the grail in The Last Crusade. I'm getting the great. I watched them all in a row for the first time to study for the Craig movie.

Because I didn't I never saw when I was a kid never saw if you watch it because I have all this nostalgia Yeah, if you're nostalgia free the third one Did miss out as a kid also he loves to throw Marianne around in that They'd be like Harrison cut. Please. Just it's crazy. It's crazy It's crazy. It's crazy. Watch it. Oh, you miss this kid watching the dinner scene in Temple of Doom. Oh, my God. When you're a kid, that's scared the shit out of me. Is a 60 year old or whatever it is.

I guess Spielberg and Lucas were both going through like terrible divorces. And that's why that movie is like angry and dark to the lady. Like, these are our ex-wives. That's why that movie is mean to the lady. And then this one's dark to the lady. Like these are our ex-wives brains. That's why that movie's mean to the lady. And then this one's mean to the lady. Oh, we got things all years. Just kidding, Steven. I'll score any movie you want.

Oh, what about ET2? I would score ET2. All right. Imagine this. ET2. An orchestra. There we go. Have you ever been to one of those John Williams

at the bowl? No, but I'm going to try and go this year. I've been on tour every time it's happened. I, I've never been either. People love it. I think it was, it's Gustavo or was Gustavo, ah, dude, because it's the Philharmonic, but yeah. Who's Gustavo? Is he the guy on the, we were just watching his Coachella thing when you're,

you'll see him on the Philharmonic. Which one? The four screens. Yeah, the one on the four screens. Is he the one on the highway ad? Yes. Oh, that's fun. You're gonna see him and then there's Cello Lady. It's like.

He populates those kind of long street lamp sort of posters that's dude-amels all over the place. Yes, that was fucking sick. Oh, he's kind of swinging that sticker around. Wait, speaking of Cello Yes. That's fucking sick. Oh, he's kind of swinging that sticker in. Wait, speaking of cello lady, when you had all like the whole orchestra in working on Craig, are you like writing them charts or how does it how do you do all that? So I was I was gonna I ended up handing it off to this company called fine line music, who are great. And they did a good job. And they got me out of a bad situation because I basically ran out of time.

And then they said, no, I like I used MIDI and I would just have like violin one is this violin, too, is it like I would arrange it all. And then I gave it to someone. I was like, just transcribe this. It's something I could do, but it would take me a long time. And I ran out of time. My computer crashed while I was working on the Craig movie. And there was a 10-minute stretch where

I thought all of it was gone. Oh my god. And then the rest of it was working with this broken-ass computer that would give me two to four hours a day in computer freezes. And I'm trying to make my first movie score. So I ran out of time and eventually had somebody do it. And it was, you know, because they were really, but they're really good.

And they're really nice. Shout out, Abraham. Thanks for doing it. Guys, I got an update. This iced tea hit me pretty good. Yes. And I'm feeling hot in the face. Oh, yeah. Hot in the face. I still think it doesn't taste bad. And weirdly, because it tastes like what I would drink when I was a kid if I was

sick with a stomach virus. So it has this like. Dime a tap. Robitussin. Yeah, it tastes like a combination of ginger ale and Robitussin in a glass together. We should do that. OK.

We should do that. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Let's go. Let's fucking go I'm shocked again that like there is an iced tea quality that comes from it cuz you know That's like it has sour mix. So it's lemony. Yeah, coke is just supposed to be there for color But it kind of turns like like why does it have an herbal leaf? Alchemy we always talk about. There you go.

This has got nice alchemy. You know, the ingredients come together. And the warm feeling, you're feeling like, I like a drink that like, it's there right away. Yeah, you can feel it. You know where you're at right away. You know where you're at. You can get a little heat down the chest,

and you're feeling, ooh, it's coming up. Oh, okay. It's coming back up? That's your first sip. Whoa, that's coming back up. sip well here's the problem guys we had to do round two okay so do you know are we drinking another one all right yeah we could just do a fun shot no what's that what do you mean well here's my proposition guys I was really excited not only did I buy peanuts and Spanish peanuts and Cajun bar mix for this, I also bought those speed pour

tops for the bottles. So I was thinking, this is an equal parts drink. Bob Butt says it's just one shot of everything. And I don't know whether he means one ounce or two. If Bob Butt had a sound effect sort of connected to him, what do you think it would be? Yeah, something like that. Back to the recipe.

So I was like, if we want to just make our own, you could just grab them and you could just make your, it's equal parts. And it's also a drink I didn't touch. Are you saying you don't want to make us drinks anymore? I'm saying that I want you to interpret your own. So maybe I want to dial up the rum and dial down the Smirnoff, for example.

Exactly, if you said, oh, I want those juniper notes from the gym. So Tim, it's customizable. That's exactly what I'm saying. Because I'll tell you guys what I want to do is I actually I thought it was kind of perfect. Yeah, that was great. It's weird that it's like Long Island. It's actually kind of good. There's a bunch of beaches.

It's actually it's got a bunch of like scary elements. But when you really get into it's like, this is all great. Yeah, the people are funny and there's a lot of beaches. There's great public transportation. I could live my whole life here. They got it all. I thought about like moving back to law. It's just like, it's just kind of nice. If it didn't have a stigma to it,

like if I was just like a young adult with no attachment to it, I'd be like, yeah, long, I was kind of sad. It would be cool. Does it long Island? I feel like it's the Jersey treatment a little bit. Yeah. Well, we're both the same as New York is the body and Jersey and Long Island. Let me ask you this. When I was shopping at Albertsons, buying all this stuff, I bumped into a guy I know an animation dude. I told him I'm buying all this stuff Jeff

I'm not getting him. I'm not getting him. I owe Daffy an apology. No, I'm just frustrated with the way Warner Brothers puts out their characters that he didn't know that was something you did. I said this is on Zazlav again. One of my animation bros was like, I said, hey, I'm going to do a podcast with Rosensock. He said, oh shit, Craig of the Creek. And I said, yeah.

And I said, we're doing Long Island because he's from Long Island. And this dude is from Long Island. So he said, oh, you know what? If you want a real treat for Jeff, he's from Long Island, get him some dip. I was like, what? And he's like, everybody from Long Island, this is tobacco.

No, I smoked cigarettes like a normal 15 year old. Thank you. Okay, I'll report back. My freshman year roommate at Ithaca College was from Long Island and he was a dipper. So I was like, oh, maybe you're onto something. I guess some people were different. We all smoked. What is that?

We all smoke menthol. And then I on a dare, I took like almost a whole can. I put it on my lip and I fell asleep all day. I miss my classes. I in high school, I was at a movie with some friends. We were like freshmen. Excuse me. And some seniors came in and they had like a case of beer. classes. In high school, I was at a movie with some friends. We were like freshmen. Excuse me.

And some seniors came in and they had like a case of beers under a coat type of thing. And they were doing the movies the way the seniors do it. And we were like, hey, how's it going? And they like gave us a beer and then gave us some dip. And we were like kind of sitting close and watching the movie. The dip juice was just going down my throat. And all of a sudden, like the room started spinning. I was like, I got to go to the movie. The dip juice was just going down my throat. And all of a sudden, like the room started spinning.

I was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. And threw up everything. That's like the Sandlot. You lived your own Sandlot. Hell for sure. And we were watching the Sandlot. One time in college, I heard a friend of mine who was trying to quit smoking

fell asleep with a Nicorette patch on. And he said that he had crazy, lucid, vivid dreams like he was. But he was a smoker, right? He was a smoker. But he said it was like it was like the mar. Chased by cigarettes. Yeah. He specifically said it was like the mar. What is this? A panel of Doomsbury? It was the Mario Kart.

It's not very good that Mario 64 level where you're going down the ice slide with the penguins. Yeah. Are you familiar with this? Yeah, of course. This is the Mario Kart, it's not Mario Kart. Mario 64 level where you're going down the ice slide with the penguins. Are you familiar with this? Yeah, of course. And he was like, oh, this is crazy. And I was like, I'm in. I don't smoke cigarettes, but in college,

I borrowed a Nicorette patch from somebody and I put it on my arm and went to bed. And I woke up and I had the spins and I puked all over the place yeah cuz but it's not for you if you're not a smoker what was I doing but also going to bed and just like letting it do its thing like if you were up and around I bet it would be a little different it felt so like weird because it's so innocent to put a sticker on your arm and go to bed. Isn't this what happened out?

Like with the Zin pouches, Gen Z kids, they're not smokers, but they love Zin, right? What's Zin? Is that like dip, but it's in a tiny thing? But it's dip? Yeah. Well, it's like a Nicorette sticker, but that you put in your mouth, it's a little pouch, but it's just the chemical of nicotine and it's got no tobacco. We love our chemicals. Can I tell you what I don't get? Why can't you just vape everywhere? You don't smell it. True. And I'm not like vaping all the time Why can't you just vape everywhere? You don't smell it. True. I'm not. And I'm not like vaping all the time or anything.

I just feel like they would just like. No. On me. No, I don't know. Just like you talking weed or just. Well, I'm talking weed, but like I just don't. I just don't understand. Like why you can't vape during a movie? Well, does it do anything?

The hardcore vapes, the guys who were like, just have their lightsaber rigs. Yeah, I guess they're like puffing like giant clouds. Easier to say no to all of it than to be like, you can only have like X amount of plumes of smoke or whatever. It's the plumes. OK. But I do also like the vaping sports

that you see online sometimes. These guys. I don't know anything about vaping. I started a conversation I don't understand. These guys do like airbender moves where they blow rings and can like create art. Honestly art is so important especially now! Truly now more than ever we need art We need people blowing smoke and shapes. Good point. Yeah.

A movie is the funniest because like when it first came out, I remember Mike Rosenstein, who would not mind that I say his name at Bird's the bar right next to UCB Theater on Franklin. He was like, have you seen one of these? And it was the first time I saw a vape. And I was like, cool, where do you light it? You know, like, no, no, no. Oh, Jeff, reason why.

I'm sure you shovel into it. Flower flower is now oil and fire and fire is now click of button. And so game changer is here. Here I am in birds going. And he's like, you know, if you if you tap it twice at whatever, there's this whole language that came out with the vape. And I was like, this is such a game changer. And I got one immediately. And I took one to a movie and I took a big drag. And I tried to, I tried to like, blow it out surreptitiously. And it just

lit up. The beam of the projection. Creating a smoke like arrow to the guy vaping in the AMC theater burbank. Like LAPD, that's the guy right there. Like, yeah, in a few years, this will be legal and we should be able to vape in here. In a few years, fucking chicken jockey will be more of a problem than this.

Okay. I like the movie ushers are gonna have flashbacks about chicken jacks. All right, we used to have a great when Jeff was just smoking up chicken. I wish Jeff was smoking, it was vaping in here. Can we do a second round, please? Yes, let's do it.

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Acast.com You got me sloshed, dude. You got me tanked, Tommy. You got me ploddled, buddy boy. Oh, you got me right where you are. It's the ultimate compliment to the bartender is when you have a little extra cup. I'm going to stay out for this one. Oh, thank you. I usually sleep through my coffee.

Folks, you know we're back. Oh, yeah. We're fucking chilling. This is the most laid back episode. It's chill. This is round two with a long, nice tea. And I had speed poor tops on my bottles and I was pretending I was a bartender. So I made those ones really strong.

Going one, two, three. Have you ever used those things before, Tim? No, they're, you know, what's weird is they're not as uniform as I thought because like, I've never attended Bar Review. Yeah, but I did. I it was mostly beers. Yeah, because I watched on YouTube. There's a TGI Friday's Bartender training corporate video, like from the 90s,

where they're teaching you how to be like like one one thousand to a thousand or like how many like count one thousand. Well, yeah, the math gets really complex. But anyway, like if the whole thing is like, you're supposed to start your shift by like, they have a like a bunch of test tubes with your calibrate calibrate your arm and your eye. I went to barkeeper today and bought these tops for my bottles and they don't seem uniform like some of them were coming out faster than others. So they are your counting I went to Barkeeper today and bought these tops for my bottles and they don't seem uniform. Some of them were coming out faster than others. So then your counting system.

I wonder if you're a well-worn bartender, you know that a fresh bottle, that's going to pour a little faster. A bottle that's down, maybe that's like, oh, that's probably right. Because if there's a little pressure from the liquid. Yeah, I bet you that's it. We've got four smart guys going. That's a theory. We just figured there's gotta be some factor. Where did you work that you were pouring beers at a bar? Oh, I it was

just it wasn't even really a job. It was guest bartending when we did like some record release shows. But one of them was for the last Bond music industry record, which is called Vacation. And I invented a drink called the Vacation. What is it? Pineapple juice, coconut rum, and a five hour energy drink in a blender. And everyone got sick. Oh, no. What was it? Vacation, vacation, vacation. You don't see those so much anymore. Those little guys that was like that really had an era. Yeah, you got to go to a flying J, my friend.

They're still going. Where's flying J? They're all over. It's a gas like rest. He has like a is like a gas station all across America. Like the big interstates, I feel. Yeah. Out of the big ones. I feel like I didn't even properly say at the top of the show

the ingredients that it's it's all the clear liquors. That's what Bob was doing. So it's vodka, gin, rum, tequila, triple sec. And he said he's got sour mix and can fit in my butt. It goes in my drink. If it can fit in my butt, it goes in my drink. If it can fit in my butt. That's why your name's Bob. What is he proud of his creation?

He's proud. Proud, proud, proud, proud. He has the best by possible. He's like, oh, whatever. No fuss. He's like, but yeah, my name Bob, but it's spelled exactly how you think it is. It's not B-H-U-T. It's not he's more proud of the name the but thing. He really talks about that all. He's like, sure, I'm a but man.

Whoa, we're not talking about ladies yet. All right. But you hear that same button. You want to talk about ladies later? I like the sound of the vacation, though, because you're it's, you know, All right, bud. Your last name's Bucky. You want to talk about ladies later? I like the sound of the vacation, though, because you're, it's, you know, we live in an era of the espresso martini and you were kind of beating them to that. That's right.

Right, right. You know what? It's an upper and a down. It's a speed ball. Yeah. But then it's also, I like the idea of like Malibu coconut rum with the- No, no, no, pineapple juice coconut rum.

So this is just virgin. What? Nou coconut rum with no, no, no pineapple juice coconut. So that's just a good just virgin. What? No, no, no. Coconut rum is coconut rum. The I would say the Virgin, the Virgin one is called stay case. Parrot Bay. Oh, yeah. Stay case is the Virgin one. So the five hour energy or does it have alcohol free five hour or like energy free five hour? Just for the taste. The virgin one. Virgin one is still speed.

Yeah, speed's fine. New York sober. I went to a, yeah, there's LA sober and New York's over there. LA sober is like, I only smoke weed and then. And do mushrooms. Yeah, weed and mushrooms. Yeah, right, right.

Naturals. Yeah. I did like a camping spring break down in Florida because. Cool. I have buddies of mine in college. This is where you got the poison. Yeah, we had like poison wood. I think I had like a poison wood infection, but we did. Poison wood.

Yeah, so. You burnt the, yeah. So we did a drive down from Ithaca. We're like, it's spring break, but I wasn't like the spring break kind of guy and neither were our buds. And we also didn't have the money to go to work. Yeah, you I wasn't like the spring break kind of guy and neither were our buds and we also didn't have the money to go to. Yeah.

So it was just like dorks. We're just dorks and like, we're like, well, we could like go down there and just camp. Yeah, it's warm. And so we did the trip snowbirds and training and we get there and it's raining. Sure. And so we are quickly setting up like tarps and a buddy of ours who's an Eagle Scout starts gathering what looks like dry brush and he starts a fire. And in the morning, we all have like, kind of welts on us or like a bit of a rash. And when I wake up, he's

gone. He's at the ER, because he was leaning down into the fire and like blowing on the embers. And then I guess he woke up early enough that people were like, yeah, you can't burn that poison wood. Or like you shouldn't touch that poison wood. It's like poison oak, poison ivy. This is native to Florida.

I didn't know poison wood was something. Poison wood is like sticks. And so his eyes were like swollen shut when he woke up. Yikes. But I bring this all up to say we did have one kind of crazy, we checked in on the mainstream spring break, like beachfront. Yeah, like the boardwalk. I don't even remember it's this is 20 years ago. But they had the slurpy machines rolling across

across the whole back wall. There was 20, 30 of them. And the big seller was 151 Red Bulls, and it was Red Bull and Bacardi 151 as like a. Yeah. Oh, just like blacking people out on on site. It's kind of sick. They'll do that. Yeah. There's like here. Here we go, grandma. Let's bring it up.

This one is going to everyone. Agrees and you choose like I want the one that sounds exactly. If you don't know exactly what 151 is like, I've heard of that. I'll try that. Yeah, I'm tired of 151 rebels. They have that on Bourbon Street. They have these those like, yeah, places like that. Who's in there? Yeah, that's good. They should have 151 rubbles. They have that on Bourbon Street. They have those like, sloppy places with the booze in there. Yeah, that's good.

They should have that in LA. Wait, you know what? I gotta shout out the Tulip Shop in Portland. Yeah. Portland. Portland. They have a frozen Cuba Libre. Yeah.

Coke and rum and lime. And it was the coldest frozen drink I've ever had. Yeah. I was holding it in my hot little hand. I tell you. How cold do you think? 32? It was this cold. I remember turning to Mike and thinking this is so cold. Like I feel it. I take a sip and I feel it cold hitting my stomach and like it's still cold. Yeah. I took my hand off it and it refroze. Like the little hand marks on the glass would like refreeze. And I was like, this is a drink you get at like the science center. That's it.

Well, that's some specific heat here because alcohol specific heat, it freezes at a lower temperature. It's a little allowed to get colder than water would. Yeah, that's why you can like put a bottle of vodka in the freezer and it's fine. This thing's a deep freeze at the toilet shop. That's my next pivot.

You're like, no more scoring animated. Yeah. And then Zazzalab's is going to buy the science. I don't know. I think we should make it more reality based. I buy scientific theories off Jeff Rose's time for some reason. Cheap. Cheap?

I don't think that. They don't make any sense, but they're good. Wait. Exciting. I remember something funny when I was bragging about the ingredients of the drink. Cheap. Cheap. They don't make any sense, but they're good. I remember something funny when I was bragging about the ingredients of the drink and I was looking at the tequila. I heard an interview with you. We recently played the Logan Square Auditorium in Chicago.

I heard an interview where you said they dumped your tequila out. What the? Like in front, it was like the show was over. Hey, you guys play shows. Sure. How long would you say you can be in the green room after the show before you start packing up the door? So it's like five minutes. They start. They flip the lights on and off and they're like, it's time to go.

And we're like there with all of our friends in Chicago. We just played like one of the bigger shows. We're like, wow, oh my God, it's happening. Cool. We made them a bunch of money at the bar, by the way. For sure. Which is their main fucking thing. Yeah, I know.

Don't even get me started about like how much money they make at the bar. Like, ooh, we have to take a merch cut. We have to take your money. It's like fucking cut the bar, motherfucker. Oh, the merch cut thing is insane. Insane. That's weird.

What can we do about that? We'll get back to that. OK, but then a security guard took a full bottle of tequila. They're not full, but maybe like four fifths and like, you know, every now and then, if you're in a band, especially at that level, it's like, we'll get a bottle of tequila and we'll like have it for a few days. It's like, fine, we're old and we're not really make getting huge riders or anything. And just pours it in the trash can and said, best part of my day.

In front of us, we're like, what the funny wasting goods. Yeah, but now I've talked shit about them twice. So like, I think I won. But I mean, when you meet like a weirdly resentful staff, like we've been pretty lucky or blessed with good sound guys, especially post COVID. I feel like COVID got rid of a lot of the chip on your shoulder.

Everybody's just grateful to be able to work. Yeah. Are you saying COVID killed them? No, no, no. I think they had to like reevaluate their lives. But then when you do meet somebody who is just seems to have it out or like has to neg the band or something, fuck that. Like from the junk, just be like, I don't want to be here.

Well, we want to be here. Yeah, I don't think I've gotten negged in that way that I had like pre covid. Maybe L.A. There was one. There's somebody in L.A. Maybe I should. I don't know. I was. So it way. Maybe I should. I don't know. I don't know who the guy is. David Geffen.

It wasn't David Geffen. There was one show I played where I was like, why does this guy be mean to like any time I play a show and like someone working sound or doing anything is like being mean to any of us. I'm like, why is like we we roll it. We're like, like we always go into everywhere. We're playing. We're like, we are all working today. Right. Thank you for helping us.

Yeah. Tell us what we can all do to make everybody's day easier. Like, sure, we'll all get cranky every now and then, but like whatever. And every time it was being like aggressively, like mean and stop it. As we're like, what the fuck is on? Why? Why do you just what are you doing? I mean, we had a guy was your end game. Like you're not going to get work. I'll come out and say it was Alex's bar in Long Beach.

We were sound checking. A couple times. Just so I'm not a coward, I'll say it was whoever's doing monitors at the before us in 2021. And you know what, motherfucker? Be nicer next time. But especially with monitors, because with monitors, it's like whatever you say goes.

That's your mix. Like monitors is so tough, though, because you're so dependent on that person. If they hate you, there is a whole thing like you don't want to just piss them off because they'll fuck you over to just the no amps. So I'm oh, yeah, you're Gen Z. OK. But well, we're newly Gen Z and like that monitors our whole show.

So if that person's mad at me, then I'm just gonna like, I can't hear myself. Yeah. Plump, plump, plump. But you're right. It has been, we've, I don't think we've had. See that would be a good show for me. Plump, plump, plump.

Wait, what was, who were you gonna talk shit about? Plump, plump. Oh, I was gonna say just like. Soda bar. No, no, no. Alex's bar. Alex's bar. That's a weird place. It is a weird place.

They also like, we'll be like, doors at seven, show at eight. They don't want us to go until midnight. So they sell a lot of liquor in the bar. They're like, guys, wait till it fills in. It's great, because we want to get home at like 2.30 PM. We want to drive home. Right, because it's close enough to LA. So we're going to have to come home that night.

But I just remember the guy said what you would say if you were like doing a character of a sound guy where we were like, hey, we wanna like do this or that. He was like, whoa, look, I'm a musician, okay? I've played festivals. And it was just like, whoa, okay. And it was like, yeah, we know you're, we know every sound guy's a musician.

But he, I forget, he said. He name dropped Warped Tour. He was just like, it was Warped Tour. He was like, but he said. He named dropped Warped Tour. He was just like, he was like, he's like, but he wasn't saying he played Warped Tour. He was like, I mixed or whatever. Either way he's busting out the resume. I didn't talk about my Emmy nomination. It was, it was.

Oh wait, Emmy nomination? I couldn't talk about my two WGA award nominations. All kinds of stuff over here. I could tell you. That's crazy. But it is very weird. It's funny to have an Emmy nomination, isn't it? I mean, you got one. Yeah. Craig of the Creek got an Emmy nomination for the musical episode.

So I feel like it counts. It was a musical episode. So I feel like it counts. Yeah. It's so funny. I think it explains a lot. I felt like a certain kinship with you guys in these years and left out a little bit I'm like man. Oh, wait, you're emmy. They're not Hey, we got nothing going on. No, it was not for birthday boys. I got one more hard-hitting question for you which

second amp Sim pedals. Yeah that you've gone you you do I have one more question after your last question. Will you accept two more questions? Yeah, man. I'll talk forever. I'll take a one, too. I'll take a one, too. I'm a podcast extender.

You had yours earlier. I'm a podcast extender. Well, here's what. I want to ask you. You and I are the guitarists of the room as well. I want to ask about your current relationship with your instrument of guitar, because let's say you. Mike called you a master melody and you are.

That's nice of you to say. You're a singer-songwriter, but then you're also a composer and stuff. Returning to band life after doing stuff like that. 2025 as a guitarist, it's kind of like our last album, we used to be like go in the studio and like record stuff live. And then we kind of, our last album. We used to be like go in the studio and like record stuff live.

And then we kind of our last album was sort of a Pro Tools album for the first time. Yeah. And I was fucking Money Mark, which is so he was. That is so sick that you did that. What a good choice. And it's so fucking sick. You did it. It sounds awesome. I mean, for that, it's so cool. And also that helped to like we didn't have too many like song ideas. But when we found out we were working with money marble like maybe we sound like this.

After the fact I like I played no guitar solos at all. I'm also not good at guitar but I do like to wank away. Let's stay with the guitar please. But it was our first sort of like chopped and screwed Pro Tools. Yeah. We're on the grid. We're, you know, okay, we're looping stuff and like first three albums, not on the grid. Right. Yeah. Like this is one, like this decision was a thing. We're like writing around the computer for the first time.

And I was not really into like playing too much guitar, but then you get back out on the road and you're like, I love this fucking thing. Yeah. Like, are you like, I feel like right now it's a funny time in guitar cause you don't hear it like, you don't hear guitar solos or lead lines too much on the radio,

but then you see these like TikTok kids who would like go viral with a guitar solo. Yeah. It's not like guitar's dead. Yeah. But it's kind of, if you're like writing music right now, what do you do with our beloved Axe? There was a time when Guitar Center just pivoted to selling DJ equipment.

Yeah, but there's still doing it. But now not it's it feels like we're resurfacing. But go ahead, Jeff. I don't give a fuck about any of that shit. Like, I don't care. I don't care what's popular. I don't care what what I'm supposed to do. Usually I try to do like my instinct is to push away from what people like.

And I try to just ignore that instinct to just do what I like. That's the middle ground between what I wanna do is like, what are people not doing kind of thing. So I don't care, like the guitar is still fun for me. And that's where like, I would say the guitars, like I just write on the guitar. And that's where like, like I would say the guitars, like I just write on the guitar. Like that's where it's easy.

That's where like, if a melody pops into my head, it's just faster for me to find what it wants to do on guitar. When I was composing, like when I got a piano, like when I got a piano ass piano, not like a midi controller, when I like got a fucking piano, got it moved into my house, because I was like, all right,

well, we're doing a movie. I better figure this out. Yeah, Yamaha. You too. I fucking love it. I'm but like, I started writing composer stuff on that kind of and that that changed a little bit. But like, oh, I don't care that a guitar doesn't have its place in like, 2023 or whatever the fuck because like I think anytime you're chasing like what is happening like you're you're kind of ignoring that what's gonna happen in the future is unknown you know so it's just kind of like I just make what I like to make and like I like I like to play the guitar well You hear that kids? That's a good lesson. Yeah, no.

I think I started using the whammy bar more. Awesome. I love it. And also like, I don't know. Do you guys all fuck with King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard? Do you know about that? Honestly, we gotta find a way in. Having a Zeus and I don't have to find a track.

Okay. We're overwhelmed. I would say, can you deal with a long song? Yes. Okay. I think Omnium, Gatherum, and Gizzard fans out there, the Weirdo Swarm is going to maybe come at me. They already.

Fucking come at me. They're already at us already. I think Omnium, Gatherum is a great place to start because I think a misconception, well, not a misconception, but King Gizzard tend to like they have records that are like, this is our record that we did with all synths and it's major key. And this is our mic records that are like, this is our record that we did with all synths and it's major key and this is our microtonal record and this is

our metal record and this is this. Now, Jeff, doesn't this sound familiar to you by the way? What? We have these records that sound like this and then these records are with the band. I feel like they're always challenging themselves. But Omnium Gatherum is like kind of everything that they do. And all the songs are fucking great. And the first song is 18 minutes long, which is why I ask if you are OK

with a long song, but also the first song on that record is maybe their best song. OK, what in the the chronological order of the albums, like where is this fall in? This is early as sure. Well, no, maybe middle. This is like 2020, 2021 around. OK, I don't remember exactly. They put out like that year. They put out three record.

They've like put out five records in here. They put out records pretty quickly. So where are they from? Are they an Austin man? They're from Austin, Raleigh. Yes, that's what I meant. That's what I meant. Yeah, you got him off. He's got to say, yeah, he's got to say. Yeah, I don. Yeah, you cut him off. He was going to say, oh, she's dead.

He's dead. He's dead. What is this, Chef? I don't feel like I cut him off. I'm fair. Fair. Fair. We did some good King Gizzard in the tour van.

That was like, we were like, but not the Lizard Wizard. Damn. But I mean, we did just like spy by this is King Gizzard. And I'll say this. So I got into them because it did this microtonal record called the Microtonal Flying Banana. Do you know what microtonal music is? It's like between the Western. Yeah. So it's like, imagine there's half steps, like you have a C and a C sharp. It's like,

this is music where there's a note between the C and C sharp. And they modified their instruments so they could play this shit. And I was just like, this is fucking, that's just a cool idea. Yeah, yeah. And then I liked that record, Omnium Gather Room. They have like a synthy record called Butterfly 3000. I like a lot. And then we saw them live at the Hollywood Bowl. And I kind of, and it was a three hour show. And I was, and we, I went with Christine on our anniversary

and we're just like, all right, well, this will be fun. I guess, whatever. We like, the Hollywood Bowl is sick. It's just a magical place to begin with. For sure. And I just kind of couldn't believe that like, all right, well, this will be fun, I guess. Whatever we like. The Hollywood Bowl is sick. It's just a magical place to begin with. And I just kind of couldn't believe that they played a three hour show where all of it was awesome and nobody seemed to want to leave. We played a three hour show, but I can't speak to the last thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yo, same being awesome and people not wanting to leave. I don't know about all that. Yeah. They have an opener. Or was it? No, it was just them. And they were playing like a lot of like thrash metal, which was sick to see at the Hollywood poll just like these guys super fast. Anyway, yeah. They're cool.

It's daunting is there's such like, yeah, a lot of people have this. I I've tried several different times and like, it's not like I don't like it, but I'm I'm I'm like, oh, like somebody guide me. One of those. Yes. I've hit play on something that sounds entirely different. So I'm like, it's not like I don't like it, but I'm like, Oh, like somebody guide me. Yes. I've hit play on something that sounds entirely different. So I'm like, what's the one? Yeah. I mean, that's are they going to play a C sharp or is it going to be between C?

Because I'm a big C sharp fan. Okay. Well, I'll Google the songs in C sharp. I'll ask. Hey Gemini. What are the King Gizzard songs? My man is hopelessly devoted to semitones. I'll ask AI. Hey, Gemini. What are the King Gizzard tones? My man is hopelessly devoted to semitones.

Hell yeah, man. Hey, I want to. They're microtones, right, Jeff? Oh, yeah. I love a microtone. There we go. All right. But yeah, I don't know.

Also, I've tried to send several people on this journey, and I've failed every time. So I only hear microt when I micro dose me. I know there's classically, what are the daunting like, Frank Zappa or the Grateful Dead or whatever, like this is one I want to crack. I think they're cool. They're like, yeah, he's our, he's our fish guy.

Yeah. I can't deal with their music, but I really like everything else about them. I mean, they're sure. I mean, I went to. So I really stopped playing. Like I went to a fish, like somebody what did they miracle me a ticket for a fish Madison Square Garden New Year's Eve show, not New Year's Eve, but in that run. Yeah. And I was like, I like I could not stand the music.

I'm sorry. It's I'm sorry. But everything else I thought was sick, like fans are just like, hey, where do you want to sit? We could like trade tickets. You could come down with me. It's all very cool in there, but you're right. If you don't like the music, it's just a tough way in. I got kind of, once I went,

Mike brought me to a New Year's Eve show there and I enjoyed the first time. And then remember we went back over the summer, like a July show and it was the only, I ate mushrooms, and it was the only time this ever went bad for me because I was at Madison Square Garden looking at like 15,000 people doing all the call and response and they were all in on a thing

and I was not a part of it. And I was like, why don't I, is there something wrong? No, I was- Everyone loves this so much and I just don't get it. You just gotta look up at the lights, man, the best lights you've ever seen in any concert ever, man. The best lights you've ever seen. They weren't the best lights ever. The lights show.

I was up high and I was looking at the lights on the crowd and everybody was just like dancing with me. When they had such a nice time. How are you all feeling with these long island XTs? Oh yeah. We got to rank it. We got to wrap it up. Oh, sorry. The point of the King gizzard thing. Yeah. Yeah was just that there's still bands doing guitar shit. That is cool

That is yeah going very well. So like who fucking gives a shit Yeah like all comes down to the money thing where it's like if you don't have a guitar or a guitarist and you're just one person off of A you know Roland or whatever that's cheaper and that's the music you tend to hear more. Yeah, but guess what? If you're a musician, you're not gonna make any fucking money. So who, so just like cut the shit, you know? The sheer economics of the band too.

Like I remember hearing, like growing up, I was a big fan of like, look, I didn't have older siblings. I didn't have people to point me to. Just say it. The Mighty Mighty Boss stones. The Mighty Mighty Boss. Why did you have to do such a preamble for that band?

I get that he's weird now, but like. Dicky Barrett and the mighty, mighty, like I'm a New Hampshire boy. Yeah. We sort of. Oh, he was an anti-vaxxer. No. Dicky.

Well, listen, it was the throat. Do you guys not know this? Okay, do it, look this up after. But like he had a really good interview where he was talking to, I think, as Adam Carolla, another guy who is who still stands the test of time. As funny now as ever. Yeah. But he was like, look, I'm a betray. He's like, you know, we hit the road.

I got 12 mouths to feed. And it was like, yeah, damn, when you have a band, when you have a horn section of the band And I mean they're dancer everybody Makes one of like oh they have a guy who skanks up on the stage, but it's like he was their tour manager Or like my first or whatever so I think when people complain about it. She was just like shut the fuck up They don't yeah fuck a band. Yeah No, and I think it's incredibly pretentious that David Byrne wrote a book

of how music works. I didn't know until I read the book. I didn't know how music worked. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This guy knows. But he does talk about like how early in the process he'll be thinking of the tour. He's like writing music and be like, Oh, fuck, I'm going to have to bring a lot of people in this tour. I'm not going to make money. Then I'll be ready to be like, Oh, this will be a cheap tour. I'm going to make some money on this tour. And it's like baked into the thing. Well, like,

even the Dickie Barrett thing, it's a it had never occurred to me as like a 22 year old that like, oh, yeah. If you tour with one guy or two people or three people, it's easier to make a living than it is with five, six, seven, twelve people. And like you've had bands of various sizes. Yeah. Yeah. And like you deal with the economic realities of what's your current band? We don't have a fucking manager. We don't pay extra people that we don't need to pay. We do it all ourselves. We're fine.

We don't answer to anybody and we're fine. Like we are in a van. We didn't move up to a bus or or like a bandwagon before we're fine. We don't answer to anybody and we're fine. Like we are in a van. We didn't move up to a bus or like a bandwagon before we had to and we're fine. How many, how many guys have you got in your current band? Four people in the band and then a tour manager, sound person, that is generally our touring crew. And then in a sound person, that's cool.

And then in a, on a bigger tour, Christine will not both do tour managing and merch, she'll just do tour managing while also have merch person. Gotcha. Oh wait, so when you say you tour with a sound person. Rick Johnson, shout out Rick Johnson. Hell yeah. You're dealing with bigger venues than we've played.

You literally just walk into the venue and the venue sound guy fucks off and you have your person touch the boards. No, Rick, the venue sound guy says I didn't work tour and then he. Yeah. Rick convinces the venue sound guy to like him. He tries to warm him up and then the venue sound guys. Usually, I think whoever is going to do whoever like the main guy is ends up doing monitors for us instead of doing that.

And then the monitor person maybe does stage managing. OK. And they work with the supports and stuff like that. But with Rick, it's just like our band's crazy. Like the David Byrne thing. When I when worry our second record was done being written and recorded, it was our going on tour is like, oh, shit, all these fucking parts. And we didn't want to do tracks. So now everybody in our band is playing a keyboard, including our drummer, including me. And so we kind of at a certain point needed to have Rick

there because explain like trying to get this and poor Dan P back there, who's our auxiliary guys, like an acoustic, a guitar, two keyboards, a pedal steel, a dip steel, like all sorts of shit. So you know, it's good to have a friend. There was a lot of stuff on stage and it looked like there should be more people up there. I was like, yeah. I noticed you got like a rolling pad up there with you or what?

Yeah, Kevin's got a SPD back there. Yeah, I got a SPD. And he's playing drum machine stuff but sometimes he's just playing like strings. But like you have something up there with you. You have a cork micro. So, OK, that's what it is. And John's got bells and he's got a whistle. Some sort of. All right.

My God, you feed me two of these drinks. And it's my fault. It's my fault. You know, it's like a goof off a little. And then Mike's got like a cheapo M.C. MPC kind of thing. Oh, awesome. But I wanted to also ask you about live video background visual shit. So you have the six six six pot leaf rainbow.

You have a practical flag. Yeah. Yeah. But then if the place can sustain it, you have like video video background that is like. That's mostly the place makes us do it. Oh, yeah. Like, like I would want that. Well, they're just like we have an LED wall. Please don't hang your flag. We want to do the LED wall so bad, but we I don't think.

OK, so you're leading with the flag. And if some places don't want that. Yeah. And then we have like a projection. Oh, like the flag is like, but like, did you make those background? Because like it's the flag and it stays. But then but then there's like also like animated stuff that happens in the wings and on top of it. Right. What? No, I don't think so. Where do you see us?

Where did you see it? On my phone, on my little phone. We played when we played, we played this festival in Portland, which was really fucking sick where they had this LED wall. Yeah. And we're like, all right. This is the Pabst festival. Yeah, yeah. Okay, this is that.

So no, that guy is just fucking kicks ass. Oh. We usually just hang the flag. I like the flag. People like it. It's easy. We don't have to make a hole to do about what we're doing up there.

And sometimes you can't. And then we're just like, here's the file. The file kind of looks lame. It's just like a pixelated version of the thing. It's cool. And so we told the guy, we're just like, yeah, just go nuts. Any like buttons you have, that's what we say. Explosions.

We just say, anything you have that goes crazy, just hit it. And it was the only time in my life he's like, I got you. And like when we saw the videos back, he's doing the like, if I can find it, like I loved what happened there. But that I did. That was all that dude whose name I don't know. OK, sick. And it was really fun. We had that we played the Magic Bag in Detroit.

Remember that guy? He was like, usually you deal with a sound guy who has to do the lights, too. And they're grumpy about that. But this was a sound guy who was pumped on lights. And we were like, we said the thing we always say, which is like, go nuts. We're like a funny band. So you could never do too much.

And then we're playing the show and he had like lasers. Like we're dead. He said, that's so sick. It was so cool. He sheepishly was just like, just so you know, I'm a laserist. Like, yes. We spotted you a mile away. You're a laserist.

I think it's everything you got. I took you for a laser. All right. Now, can we please do this? I'll finish with the second. Yeah, I'm a little slow. I mean, you were faster than the first. I know I said I took my stride in the first. I know. The second one. I took my straw out of the second one

because I dropped it at one point. All right. Get it together. It's kind of a mess over here. We're going to pivot into final thoughts here. Jeff, we'll start with you. Now are you talking the third person? Thank you.

Yeah. I'm really confused. There's no specific ranking system or anything. It's what did you like about the drink? Or did you to the person? Yeah. I'm really confused. There's no specific ranking system or anything. It's what did you like about the drink? Or did you like the drink? Would you order it again? Yeah, yeah. Would you order it again? I wouldn't order it again. You wouldn't? No, because if we gave you one right now, you'd say no thanks?

What, like if we went to the bar, you got me a Long Island iced tea? I would drink it because I'm polite. And I'd be like, thank you. No, I actually did want it. Jeff, don't be so polite. You have to drive later. I know it's fine. Yeah, I know.

I drive drunk all the time. People want to be nice. I'm kidding. Yes, we do like to reiterate, folks, do not drink and drive. Yes. That's the moral. Morally, I have to do that for myself. We're sponsored by Mothers Against Drugs. You're telling people at this point in the podcast, I have to do that for myself.

We're sponsored by Mothers Against the Trash. You're telling people at this point in the podcast they've been drinking along with you the whole time. In their cars. In their morning commute. Yeah. They've got all the bottles clicking and going. They're way to the some sort of factory.

I didn't quite get there. Some sort of factory. Some sort of funny thing. No, some sort of funny place. What do I think of the drink? Yeah. Some sort of funny thing. No, it's a good place. What do I think of the drink? I think it tastes good. And that's a problem. Yeah, it's a danger.

It's it's I think it's the last one previous to that. I really years 20, 21, like 22 somewhere around there. And now I'm 24. So it's not really that. Oh, yeah. So very recently. 22, somewhere around there. And now I'm 24, so it's not really that, you know. Oh yeah, so very recently. So very recently. But yeah, and I'm very drunk, I feel like.

They did the job. I'm pretty good on this side. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a little concerned about later, but that's a later problem. That's future Jeff will deal with that problem. Can I hit my?

Timothy, your thoughts? I love it. I only have really drink it in weird circumstances, but this was so good. But I also had one of the same use my time to use it, say a profound thought about music. Oh shit. Do I have to?

Okay. I got it. I'm going to use my drink review time to say a profound music. And this is going to be a game change thing moving forward for us. Here's what I was thinking. We're when I was asking about guitar, I was like, Oh yeah, like you're resist.

You're not going to write music for the algorithm or for the internet or whatever you're going to do. You're the thing. The weird thing is live music is more important than ever because we're not making the money on the streaming. So, so guitar is better than ever. So I should be in my scales man. AI is yes. I should be on Mixolydian mode man. Yes and I should too. AI is no threat to the live performing musician. That's very true. Oh my god it's crazy how much practicing makes you better and I just never do it. It sucks. I should be walking around noodling. I don't. You would be so much better. I do not touch a drum until we go on tour. I was better when I was 19 than I am now. Like I don't touch the thing. Before I'm on stage and I'm on a power chord.

Just making such a big deal about like, hey, I practice like for a few minutes every day and I feel a lot better about it. Like I know what the notes are. Don't you feel incredible at the end of a tour? You're like, this is where I was born to fucking do. Yeah, it's the same. And then the tour is over. Yeah.

When I work out or eat well, I'm like, yeah, OK. I feel a little better. It's like, oh, the thing everyone's been saying for their whole lives. But who wants to do it? No one is. Wait, wait, Tim, you were on the roll. Yeah, sorry.

Yeah, we were. It was just, it's a rich, it's because of the internet, live music. Because the internet. Live music is more important. Shout out to Childish Gambino. Go ahead and like, go ahead Tim. That's nice of you to give him a shout out.

Well, it's funny, like we're like booking shows now and our agent is booking them for like 20, 29. Everybody's touring. Yeah. Everything's booked. Yeah. And people are like, it's hard to, sometimes it's hard to fill a room because there's so many shows happening and stuff.

But it is just a funny little, the results of the whole thing is that like, live music is actually like cooler now than it was, like even just like eight years ago, you know? Yeah, that's true. And I'm using this as a pep talk that I'm gonna practice guitar. I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and I'm to run some scales and not pentatonic.

Now, you know, the one that the one we know before. And this is whatever. But before tours and stuff like that, and I got to get back into it. I just I like I practice sets. I just not even like this set. I'll just like play like 15 songs like full force. Go as hard as I can so that when I'm out there, like it's not like a scary thing, you know what I mean?

It's helpful. That's great. As a musician who music is your main thing, are you in every... Kind of my thing. As a musician who music is your thing. No, I know. As a musician who's like, that's not my thing. I lucked out that music's my thing. That's fair. That's where musicians are like, ah, that's not really my thing. I lucked out. I lucked out that music's my thing.

That's 200% real. Are you like, you know, in the writing world, the good writer wakes up every day and just starts typing away at stuff. Are you, during your day, like, okay, I'm gonna just noodle around and come up with something. I'm going to music every day. Yeah, I'm gonna music every day.

No, no, no. No, I like, if I, the thing I try to do, which I've been bad been bad at is just like if an idea pops in my head, then I'll chase it. But I'm really like I mean with and with cart with composership with credit is different because I have a schedule. But like so as my own stuff is just like when I feel it, chase it. And if I'm not feeling it, just like that's also part of it. Yeah. How often are you singing into voice memos on your. Always. Yeah. Always. Yeah. You ever sing any of your old songs in them? Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah. Just like what is this? Kelsey, come on.

Remember this old song, future self. Folks, it's an order again. You know, it's an order again because look, we've already covered it on the pod. And I was so excited to do it. When we were emailing you, Jeff, I was like, I was like, does there any, is there anything drink that speaks to you emotionally

or geographically? And when you said, I guess the Long Island iced tea, I lit up. I'm glad you did. I guess the Long Island iced tea. Yeah, I lit up. I'm glad you did. It is fun. You don't drink it like, you know. Yeah, yeah. Because you don't go out and say like, I'll have a look.

And no, I honestly, to be fair, is like nervous because I don't drink that much anymore. And I'm just like, all right, we're going to be drinking. You know, I like cheese. You were like at home with your wife and you made one of these. You'd be fucking insane. That would be the funniest. I don't know what I thought because it kind of tastes pretty good.

I mean, come on now. If you and the wife were like, hey, let's have one Long Island. Let's see me like it's supposed to be a 911. Put 151 and cool it in there. You fucking loser. What was the other? Oh, yeah, we did the audios motherfucker, which was blue. Yeah, blue curacao instead of triple sec and then sprite instead of coke.

So it's like a blue drink. Same thing, though. It seems that's fun. It's really fun. But it's a little more like island vibe. Triple sec. I feel like I don't drink a lot of drinks. Triple sec.

You need more triple sec. Triple sec on the rocks. It's nice to add up. It's a nice thing to add up. It's 4000 calories. Ooh, the sec. I have some curacao, some like normal ass orange curacao. Orange? Wait, normal curacao? Dry curacao is like.

What, Cointreau? No, like a powder? No. I didn't know they made a not blue one. There's blue curacao and there's dry curacao. Oh, oh. I have like a fancy one. Oh, I didn't know they made a not blue one. There's blue curacao and there's dry curacao Oh, I have like a fancy one It's like triple sec, but it's not as sweet And so whenever I make a margarita and I don't have my triple sec

I put that in there and it's like it's not the same. I know that stuff is dry It's like from it's fancy and like I think I'm doing something good because it's fancy But then it's it's not what the drink needs like I think I'm doing something good because it's fancy, but then it's it's not what the drink needs. So I've got a second time I've heard that song today, which I heard in years. I got that song stuck in my head. We did last week on the show. We did the. Oh, oh, oh, I wanted to say the last episode we did the Gator bite.

Gator bite. That's right. The Gator bite. Yeah, Gator. What's the Gator bite? I know. He invented it. He invented it. It's right. The Gator bite. What's the Gator bite? He invented it. It's clear rum, lime juice, and sprite. And you do them, you take the clear rum. Three different shot glasses. But no, those aren't shots.

He's sipping. It's rum, lime. Yeah, but we also shot them. You sip all three, or you sip the rum, and then you rum, lime. Yeah, but we also shot them. You could also. You sip like all three, or like you sip the rum, and then you sip the lime, and then you sip the lime. It's in order, so it's like, it's got to be quick. It's like you're almost like filling your mouth at the same time.

Your taste buds are like, too sour. You're like, OK, a little spray. So it's still a shot. You're just doing it slow? We did a shot every time. What are you guys talking about? You're sipping. You're describing shots.

Exactly. You can do shots. But if you want to just take it slow to get it, you don't want to get into it. Just be like, I don't know what you do. I have a mashup that I wish I made for us for last week. I was like Gator by Gator by Gator. Right. What could the song be? Oh, let me see if I can guess it.

Can you guess it? OK, no, Gator by. That's good. Avril Lavigne was this Gator bite. That's good. Avril Lavigne was a Gator. It was a Gator bite. So see you later. My brother. It was a Gator bite.

We had an insane night or something like that. And we got into a fight. Good. We are speaking of that. He is a little song. We just had one where I had something. Oh, I had I'm so fancy in my head. And we are we still not like Avril Lavigne. And now I like her.

Why don't you not like it? Love that she's fucking the fake punk. But then it's like I grew up, it's like all my lady friends are like, wait, that was inspiring. And I'm like, oh, shit, I was an idiot. Now I love that one interview with her where she's like, yeah, like, she's like, maybe it's not to not say her punk. I don't know. Whatever.

She had a bad interview. She's she's my cool kids. No. What? Yeah, they're there. Another mark. Now, but what a power couple. She and the 41 guy were Derek Weebly. Yeah. What a what a power. That's a pop punk power couple. And Canadian, Canadian Derek Weebly, yeah. What a power couple. That's a pop punk power couple.

Canadian, Canadian. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I bet Ryan Reynolds, I think, moderated the wedding. Moderated. I can't think of the word. Oversaw the nuptials.

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Juicy Fruits is going to move. Juicy Fruits is because your skis shined up. Grab a stick of Juicy Fruits. Yeah. You were thinking of Juicy Fruits. Tastes is going to move you. Tastes is going to move you. You're going on tour with Puff.

Yes. We're going on tour. Oh, yeah. Throughout September and October. Throughout September and October, we're going on tour. Oh, yeah. What about September and October? Throughout September and October. We're going on tour. Is this a plug part? Plug it. We're going on tour with Pup. Also, my sister has a show on Hulu called Dying for Sex.

It's all hilarious. And it's about terminal cancer. And I don't know how those two things work, but it's happening. Just watch it. This show is like, your sister really created that show? Her and Liz Merriwether, yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. But yeah, she like worked on it for five years

as I was like going- That's like the buzzy big show right now. That's the cast you should have had. It's great. That's the rosy stuff. That's the buzzy big show. No, but it is. It is, yeah. I have a literally a on my notes app.

I have a note called Watch. Oh, and I recently the last show I wrote was my first. Fuck. Yeah, I just want to be a cancer diagnosis and decides to have a bunch of sex before to live her life, to live her life. There you go. You're both right. Yeah, I watched I finally watched it last night, like a bunch of it. And God, it's so fucking funny. That's what I couldn't.

I couldn't. I was like, I thought I was going to be really sad. And it is. But it's also very funny. That's great. Your sister's out here, too. Yeah. She was in Eagle Rock. You should shout out her address. Yo, I knew she was a writer, but like that. Yeah, that's a show that's like been in my feed and I've been. It's really good. It's really, really good.

Check it out. And when you come through, you're playing palladium. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So buy tickets to the palladium while you're watching. Dying for sex and who emails him who set this up. Shout out to him. We're going to Tim. This is where we saw a play. Yeah, it probably is. Did you know that the palladium was the exteriors of Studio 60 on the sunset strip? You didn't know that? Are you excited?

In 2005, Aaron Sorgin had a TV show that was like basically about SNL. Yes. Same time 30 Rock aired. Yeah, there was 30 Rock and there was the and there was studio 16 now there's the studio and I'm just like I'm just trying to watch TV there their LA equivalent of 30 of Rockefeller Center was the palladium and all the shot all the extra contextualize you tell me a New York space. Just so you understand. And you're telling me I'm going to go to the Palladium and I'm going to see these. That's funny.

I'm going to see both these bands, which is where I saw 100 gecks and I saw Tim get stripped of all his drugs. And then we're going to go to the well across the street and to where I saw Ryan Reynolds when I first moved to Los Angeles. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Didn't he moderate the pop punk's wedding? Also the Palladium is where I saw the Doolittle Tour. I saw Pixies play Doolittle in its entirety.

Oh, damn, Palladium. Was it good? It was good. And Kim was there. Nice. Did you go to that Kim Deal show at the Belasco? No, I missed that. It was so good.

Oh, fuck. I saw her on Melaney recently. If Kim Deal's on tour, that's a plug. Go see Kim Deal. She's the best. Where did you see? What did you say? I'm sorry.

On John Mulaney's Netflix show? Yeah. A couple of weeks ago, the two guests were Kim Gordon and Kim Deal. They played separate songs and they played one together. Oh, a little trouble girl. Hmm. Are you doing any summer tour or anything? No, we're just doing the one. We're playing the Fest in Gainesville, but there's a chill year.

Oh, the Fest. I've heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you guys should do. They do comedy stuff. You know, here's what I'm going. Oh, the fest. I've heard about that. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun. You guys should do it. They do comedy stuff. You know, here's what I'm going to say. You should totally do the fest. You guys love the fest. We're going to. We've never played Florida. All right, you're in.

All right. Tony, sloppy boys are playing. Let me know what time that starts. Yeah, can you let us know what time they are? You got to be down there by 8. I can do that. You got to. This is going to be here.

Let us load in for that. OK, so I'll forward you the day sheet. OK? OK, good. We need the advance. Yeah. You guys are you on master tour or we don't even know what that is. Hell yeah. I like that. Google Sheets for life. I mean, Gemini Sheets, what is it? Here's what I'm going to propose.

Hey, I'm going to say 2027. We do a sloppy boys. Rosenstock tour in Japan. Yeah, let's go. Oh, yes. I would love that. We just we just did Japan. Oh, man. We went. It was the first time our band ever played there.

That's cool. We were making inroads into Japan right before Covid hit. And then people were like, you know what? It's not the time. You should hit up your inroad people again. I know. I actually I do have a more current one. I need to email him. Have you been to Japan? No. It fucking rocks. I'm severely undertravelled. Also, I mean, also right now, Japan's hella cheap. What the fuck?

Yeah, I'd say you're severely over travel for a guy who doesn't like to travel. Yeah. In the domestic United States. He doesn't like to travel. Yeah. You live in L.A., right? Yeah. No one like no one wants it. Well, you live in LA. I feel like so many people in LA are like, all right, I'm good. I'm cozy. I got it. LA is the end of the line.

LA is really the end of the line. There's always this glimmer like maybe like the Pacific Northwest. Because you know, Hawaii and then to Japan, I guess. I guess all around the world. Well, I'm making your podcast longer. Well, Jeff, thanks for coming out. Thanks for having me. He needs your wife to slug really strong drinks with us.

It's been a fucking time. It's been a lot of fun. The best. And hey, folks, thanks for tuning in. We'll see you on the road, or we'll see you here next week. That's fine, too. Bring a friend with you, don't you? We've got you at the end of May, the 28th, 29th we're gonna be in Portsmouth New Hampshire Brattleboro Vermont Westerly Rhode

Island. Come on up folks. Oh hell yeah it's a New England when did you say? At the end of May. Little, ridiculous, tiny town. It's the perfect time of year to be in New England also the perfect time to go to a show. Yes yes thank you thank you. That's what we're saying. Oh, you know what? There's great shows we can cover. Shout out to them, just like, I gotta get through this. Mike Hanford is going out on a stand-up tour to go see him, or he will be very mad.

What are the dates? How many of the dates can you do without looking? The dates, I can- Are they in New England? Is it quaint? It's gonna be quaint. It's in New England. I don't know, I've acquainted. It's gonna be quaint. It's in New England I don't know I've had to be looking at a nice TV look at my cameras link tree

But it's all over the place Texas Dallas Houston, I folks we love you Wait so Texas Dallas We're all that's not a cool before us all of Texas Give it up for your boys