The Smark Avengers - From Ares to Egg Fu: The Wildest Wonder Woman Villains Explained
Episode Date: February 20, 2026Wonder Woman has faced some truly iconic villains… and some absolutely bizarre ones. In this episode, Corey, Dylan, and Jon dive into a slideshow-led exploration of Wonder Woman’s rogue gallery, f...rom her most famous enemies to the obscure and downright weird. ⚔️ What’s covered in this episode: Legendary foes like Ares and Cheetah Lesser-known villains like Dr. Cyber and Silver Swan Unusual villains like Egg Fu and Mouse Man Villains so strange they barely appeared at all With Corey guiding the way, Dylan and Jon react to the wildest, most ridiculous moments in Wonder Woman’s comic history. Expect laughs, shocking reveals, and some deep dives into the weirdest corners of DC Comics. If you love Wonder Woman, DC Comics, or just want to see which comic book villains are truly off the rails, this episode is for you. 💬 Join the Discussion Which Wonder Woman villain is your favorite—or your least favorite? Did we miss any strange gems? Drop your thoughts in the comments! 👍 Like the video 🔔 Subscribe for more comic deep dives, weird villain breakdowns, and fun fandom debates Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's project "Henry's Usual": https://www.tumblr.com/henrysusual Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f
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What's, well, we'll just, you know.
We can't see the tits.
I'll lower it down.
I just want to make sure that we're not being inappropriate.
I don't want us to get flagged for adult content.
Well, that's why John has this video camera off.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Breasts are out always.
Doesn't wear bra.
Absolutely.
Mm-hmm.
Who is that slapping noise?
That wasn't me.
It might have been me open on the can.
Okay.
We're just talking about John babbing his breast out and then there was a slap.
I was like, did John just slap his tit for emphasis?
Yeah, because people need to know.
People need to know.
Yeah.
They can't see it, but they can hear it.
They can still interact with it.
They can certainly hear it, that's for sure.
Everybody, welcome to Smart Avengers.
Name is Corey.
With me is Dylan and John.
How's it going, guys?
Hello.
No, that can't be the intro.
I don't know.
We usually make...
Jill and usually are a little clown
that we have in the intro
who says the silly and appropriate thing.
Yeah, it's nice to be
on the other side of the ones, isn't it?
True.
That's easier.
I don't think John likes it.
It's fine.
But anyway,
welcome to the Smart Avengers.
My name is Corey.
And as I said before,
with me is Dylan and John.
Guys, how's it going?
Good.
Good.
Good.
Glad to hear, glad to hear.
So today, we've had a lot of episodes that have kind of like run together in one way or another.
We've had the tournament.
We've had the Kang two-parter.
And I kind of think it'd be cool if we went a little back to basics to a degree.
And by that, I mean, I have prepared a PowerPoint presentation.
Excellent.
So a couple of months ago, we did a deep dive.
into the world of Aquaman villains.
We started with his more well-known villains,
and then I kind of led you through some of his famous,
but lesser-known villains,
and then I kind of incapped it with,
here's some fucking weirdos.
Usually they were only in like an issue or two,
but they were just so weird that you just had to mention it.
Like, Wacky Man,
who was a clown who had a robot animals that he had,
and he dressed like Aquaman, except with a W for a belt.
And then there was the one.
woman, her name, I believe, was Carla.
And she had flaming hair, but she was also underwater.
So she had to wear an oxygen mask so that she could be underwater, but her hair was still on fire somehow.
Yeah, like, none of that seems like a good idea, does it?
No, no.
And then there was the scavenger that seemed like a good idea on paper until the 90s where they
reimagined him to be a pedophile who got his powers from like an eel god or something.
So that was weird.
Listen, if you're going to make somebody clearly an eel.
evil person.
Yeah.
You know?
Absolutely.
We had a drive by Dusty just then.
A.k.a.
he was going to start climbing on things and we don't want that.
So,
Cat cam.
Hold on. He might actually do it here.
You're going to get it?
There it is.
There it is.
There it is.
The money shock.
They got to get the people in.
There it is. They're going to want to see that ringed tail.
Would it make sense if that was the thumbnail?
Just a close up of a ring tail
Yeah
Us kind of like peeking around it
You know
Maybe
Fog's gonna do
With the show's about it
Or maybe
One of these great characters
That we're going to discover
Today
We'll inspire a thumbnail of its own
With its own weird eccentricities
Because we're gonna take a look
At another DC Comics
Superheroes rogue gallery
We're gonna go with Wonder Woman
So
Right off the top of your head
What do you know about Wonder Woman villains?
I would say pretty much zero.
I don't think I could name a single one.
I've read quite a few Wonder Woman comics.
Like pretty much from the start of the new 52
up until about maybe three years ago, three, four years ago.
So I've read a lot of Wonder Woman comics,
but I don't really think I absorbed them very much.
so I can't really remember many villains outside of, like, the obvious ones.
Like, is it Cheetah?
Yes.
And then I want to say Circe.
That's another one of them.
We'll spoil it.
We'll get into them.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because, again, I'm going to hit you with the major ones and I'm going to give you some kind of minor ones.
And I'm going to get you some weirdos that only showed up a time or two.
And we're largely forgettable, if not for how weird they were.
Because DC Comics are the Golden Age.
and Silver Age were really fucking strange.
I have a question.
Yes.
How many of them are pedophiles?
Well, here's the thing about Wonder Woman.
The Greek gods are part of her canon,
and the Greek gods are perverts in their own weird ways.
So maybe.
Well, I think there's a line between pervert and a lot of Pito.
But I suspect that I wouldn't want to spoil anything.
I think we'll naturally come across whoever we get to.
Yes, maybe we have to guess which one of them is the p-de-fow.
You're going to come away with some opinions on at least one of them for sure in regards to that.
I can guarantee it.
So, okay.
That being said, we're going to head over into my special Wonder Woman PowerPoint presentation that I made the other day.
I totally didn't just use the same background I used for the Aquaman villains.
What are you talking about?
Different.
Absolutely different.
So, again, I have a friend who has been around me for years and years and years and years, and they know I read comics and they've seen superhero movies and stuff with me.
And when I told them this was the topic, their response was, you know, I actually don't think I can name a Wonder Woman villain.
And that's kind of a thing because most people, at least in their experience, they associate Wonder Woman with, like, fighting alongside Superman.
and Batman and whoever the fuck they're fighting.
They don't think about she has her own villains
and her own problems to deal with.
So, that being said, let's get started.
With the obvious, the big one, Aries.
Aries first debuted in Wonder Woman number one
in July of 1942.
He is the Greek god of war and is considered
Wonder Woman's half-brother.
He's immortal, he's invulnerable, he could shape-shift, teleport.
He's got god powers that include apparently getting
stronger and faster by absorbing violence,
energies. And for fun, I decided to put that he was voiced by Dylan, your favorite Dr. Octopus,
Alfred Molina, in an animated Wonder Woman movie, and played by David Thuleus in the 2017 Wonder Woman
movie. But Aries is kind of considered her big bad. John, you read the new 52, where he had a very
different look, where he was bald with a big long beard. That, from I understand, was the artist
making fun of the writer Brian Azarello by drawing Aries to look like him.
So, nice.
Like I said, there are a couple more Greek gods on here
and Greek characters.
Wonder Woman is very much fed off of Greek mythology.
But I didn't want to fill up the whole presentation
with listing every single god she's had a problem with
because there are numerous ones.
Okay.
So I wanted to make sure I least captured Ares.
Like I said, this is her, this is her Lex Luthor.
This is her Joker.
This is her big bad, in my opinion.
There are other more, there are other Wonder Woman villains that are female that a lot of people want to pair her with because, you know, the idea that she's a female hero and should have a top female villain.
I get it.
But, I mean, Ares is the embodiment of war.
He's the exact opposite of Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman is all about, you know, peace and love and everyone were living together.
And Aries is the god of bloodshed.
He's not the god of war and strategy.
That's Athena.
God of Aries is God of violence and blood.
So he's her exact contrast.
So they have fought each other in every continuity in D.C.
Um, pre-crisis, post-crisis, new 52 and rebirth.
He's been there constantly the whole time.
Has Wonder Woman ever ripped Aries in half?
I don't know if she's ripped him in half.
I know he has died in her continuity.
But, of course, he came back.
I do wonder, though, I think he is stronger than the Marvel Comics Aries, though.
That doesn't surprise me.
The Marvel Aries isn't that impressive for any?
Yeah.
All right, so we'll move forward.
This is her next most iconic villain.
This is the Cheetah.
So Cheetah originally debuted in Wonder Woman No. 6, which is in September of 1943.
three. However, there have been five versions of the Cheetah. The two most famous ones are the first one, Priscilla Rich, and the third one, Barbara Minerva. So Priscilla Rich was a debutant who basically had a Cheetah costume that gave her like shark claws and she was like an acrobat already. And when they went into, I believe it was pre post crisis when they switched to Minerva, she was an archivac.
like a anthropologist that tried to perform a ritual,
but failed because she wasn't a virgin.
And she was cursed to have her body trapped inside of this lichen-thrope
cheetah form where she's like bloodthirsty and stuff.
So she actually has powers.
So she has, you know, superhuman abilities, sharp claws.
And in the past, has had the ability to transform other people into cheetah people by biting them.
And she was played by Kristen Wigg.
in the Wonder Woman 1984 movie,
which I did not see,
but I didn't hear great things about.
No, you didn't miss much.
I gathered that.
Why did they think it was good
for them to make five different versions of this card?
Well, so here's the thing.
Whenever they have come about
with doing like the relaunches
and creating new continuities,
they have this kind of like play with the formula a little bit.
Like what can we do to make the character different?
Because this is an all new, all different, you know, continuity that we're in.
So like the first cheetah was Priscilla Rich.
The second cheetah was like her niece that found the costume and did the same thing, basically.
The third cheetah was Barbara Minerva.
The fourth cheetah was a dude who Barbara Minerva killed and then took the powers back from.
And then the fifth version is,
considered the new 52 version of the character that has kind of been merged in with the
Barbara Minerva and rebirth continuity see but yeah ultimately people believe this is wonder
woman's top female villain uh in other media like video games and stuff like the justice
league task force Sega Genesis fighting game in the um injustice gods among us video game she has
been the um one of the wonder woman villains that got brought into the game as well areas also
did as well.
Okay.
So yeah, that would be, I would say, her second
top villain of all time.
And this is where it's going to start to get a little weird.
Good.
So here's Dr. Psycho.
Okay.
Dr. Psycho is, I would say, her third most famous villain.
He first debuted in Wonder Woman number 5 in July of 1943.
He is a powerful psychic who can shape dreams,
cast illusions,
hypnotize people. He is a little person. And he was created by William Marston, who created Wonder Woman,
to represent the fragile male ego and masculinity. Basically, he represents the immature,
the emotionally immature man who's not grown up. And there have been a lot of Dr. Psycho's
storylines that involve sort of like him being like a representative of like men's rights and stuff.
And like appealing to the worst sides of masculinity to have people rise up against.
Wonder Woman.
So he's basically Andrew Tate then.
Yes.
He is Andrew Tate
with shaggy hair.
I don't think Andrew
take a grow hair.
He doesn't have a chin either, but...
Yeah, this guy's go way more
for going for him than Andrew Tate does.
Yeah.
He was also voiced by Tony Hale
in the Harley Quinn animated series.
Also, this guy's a doctor?
Yes, he's a psychiatrist.
Part of his fall from grace is he is a
psychiatrist who became obsessed with the idea of the power of the mind and he was ridiculed by
his peers.
So his name, I believe, is Edgar Sisko, but his friend, his people called him Dr. Psycho.
Well, that's what I was going to say.
Imagine you went to a psychiatrist under a surname of Psycho.
You were like, I don't know, but that's like going to a surgeon whose surname is
out of being a surgeon.
You're like, I don't want Dr. Bada being a surgeon to be my surgeon.
Yeah, so, doctor.
I couldn't think of a snap year way to say that.
Yeah, no worries.
Just so you know, whenever I said like, oh, guess which one's the pedophile?
Dr. Psycho might be.
I don't know.
Just gives me the vibe.
Three in.
That's why, Biddy.
What do you say might be?
Is that just because he'd look at him?
I mean, you just look at the state of him.
Yeah.
This was the best picture I could find of him as well.
Every other, like, picture I found of him, he was, like, frothing at the mouth or had
giant bulging eyes.
And I'm like, listen.
What's the worst photo you could have photo of find of him?
You know?
So if, like, Aries and the cheater, basically, they're fighters.
They can kind of, I guess, go toe to toe with Wonder Woman.
I'm guessing Dr. Psycho isn't really anywhere nearer.
physical match for her. No. No, Dr. Psycho strikes up alliances with other villains, either by appealing
to their own needs or by manipulating them. He also, because of his abilities, can raise mobs and
basically send an army people after Wonder Woman and has had the ability to kind of fuck with her head
as well, just using his own psychic abilities. So he's not good at fighting? No, he's not good at
fighting. He is sort of in that, he's in that Cassandra Nova school. He is just like Andrew Tia.
All right. So yeah, that would be number three. Now, here's the thing that you may have noticed.
Her top three villains all debuted in the single digits of her original run in the 1940s.
So that is like a sign of like kind of weird staying power in William Marston's character creation.
Like that's the thing I took away when I was doing this. Like a lot of these characters that he created and brought in, they're the ones
that lasted. So, props to him for that. I mean, the man was a pervert, but props to him.
So, moving on. Our next one on the list, Giganta.
Giganta first debuted in Wonder Woman number nine, which is June of 1944. So this is where I start
really laying into how in every time they reset the continuity, they kind of mess with the
characters a tiny bit. So as you could see, Giganta is a, I
giant woman.
However, that was not originally the case.
Her golden age origin is that she was a gorilla
who evolved into a beautiful redhead woman
that had superhuman strength,
but she didn't have that ability to grow large.
Why?
I don't know.
Why was she a gorilla?
If I had to guess,
this was going to be William Marston's
exploration of the id
and the idea of
like raw animal
turning into like this kind of
sexy woman and like commenting on like the untested libido like I said the man's a
pervert like a lot of Wonder Woman's like backstory is about like she lives on an island full of
of beautiful Amazonian women that routinely tie each other up for fun he was in a polyamorous
marriage and routinely practiced bondage that's big big aspects of it and when Grant Morrison
did uh their earth one graphic novel where basically it was like they got
free reign of Wonder Woman, what do you want to do with it?
Grant really leaned into the bondage aspect of Wonder Woman from William Marston.
So, you know, this is like, Wonder Woman's origins and sex are always really odd,
and sometimes we'll make people uncomfortable.
So, now, her golden age origin, she was a gorilla that turned into a beautiful red-headed
woman.
Post-crisis, she was a scientist who had a failing body, so she transferred her brain
into the body of a circus strong woman named Olga
after it had briefly been placed in the body of a gorilla named Giganta.
Also, Olga had the ability to grow big.
I don't know why.
Okay.
So she was a doctor,
and she's like, I'm going to put my brain in a gorilla named Giganta.
And then when that wasn't working out,
she's like, I'm going to put my brain out of the gorilla
into the Circus Strong Woman body,
but I really grew to like the name Giganta.
So I'm just going to keep that.
Right.
all of this makes sense so far.
Yep.
And there you go.
Also, Olga can get big.
So, right.
Also, and when they relaunched to the new 52,
Gigantic got her size changing powers due to a side effect,
attempting to cure herself of a disease.
Was the disease being a gorilla?
It seems to, oddly enough,
it's the only one of her origins that doesn't involve a gorilla.
Interesting.
But she grew to prominence.
in the 1970s when she was a big part of the Super Friends cartoon.
So her current origin seems to have stuck with the new 52 version.
We're not switching bodies with gorillas and strong women in current gigantic continuity.
You know, people just don't switch their bodies with gorillas enough anymore.
You just don't see it in comics.
We're not as obsessed with gorillas in the jungle as we used to be as well.
used to be really obsessed with gorillas in comics.
What's that?
You don't see them anymore.
Yeah, it's really weird.
Yeah.
I have a quick question about giganta.
How tall does she actually grow?
I mean, I think we're looking at her full height right now where she's like the size of like a Godzilla.
Like she's like, she's like Kaiju sized when she can grow as tall.
So she's like routinely she could be taller than Giant Man if we're going to look at a Marvel comparison.
because Giant Man normal doesn't go that big.
How tall are those guys behind her then in that picture?
I believe they're supposed to be the same size as her.
It's just perspective.
That's some bad perspective.
So let's move on to Dr. Poison.
Jesus Christ.
Dr. Poison first debuted in Sensation Comics number two, February 1942.
I don't have to look at it.
Dr. Poison is an expert chemist who specialized in poison and chemical warfare and was also a sadist.
In her original origin, she was a Japanese princess who disguised her gender with bulky clothing in order to practice her sadism by poisoning people.
In her post-crisis origin, she was the granddaughter of the original who had died because of taking her own poisons.
and in the new 52, she was a white woman
who had Russian super scientist parents
who died during the Cold War,
and then, of course, in Rebirth, we changed it a fourth time,
where now she's just a colonel in the Japanese military.
She was also portrayed by Elena Anya
in the 2017 Wonder Woman movie.
Again,
I'm not looking at it.
So far, all five of these characters have debuted
in the early 1940s.
I feel like they're all doctors.
we've got what two doctors
two out of five
last one was like a scientist
yeah I would say I would give
depending on what can't
what continuity
you're looking at what giganta
yeah we're looking at
you know
because she's either a scientist
or she's a gorilla
so I mean that's three out of five
those are two
why can't she be both
if she lived in a gorilla city
she could be
right she wasn't for your time
because she was a scientist's brain
in a gorilla body
correct
and Barbara Minerva was an anthropologist as well
so that's a kind of science
yeah Darius is just a god
but he probably was smart enough to become a doctor
he just chose not to
if doctors were like a thing
in the Greek god pantheon
I reckon he could have been a doctor
so I give him half a point
I'd say four and a half of these five people
have been doctors
well I will tell you we are not out of doctors yet
Good.
You were talking about how a lot of these are from the original run.
Yes.
Yeah.
Lots of gorillas, lots of doctors.
Yes.
And we have our first,
we have our first incidents of
Asian people now with Dr. Poison.
Is that the last or is there going to be more?
No, there will be more.
Well, you know of one that's already coming up, bud.
Do I?
You do.
Did I armless Tiger Man?
No, we talked about it.
about before though. All right.
We're ready to pass Dr. Poison or unless you would keep looking at this face.
Oh, I don't.
But what?
So it's just a woman that has poison?
Yeah, yeah.
She just is really good at making poison.
She doesn't have powers.
She's just really good to making poison.
He has an odd face.
I hope that's okay for me to say.
I think that's fine.
All right.
Is the face a result of the poison or is it?
No, I think it's just to illustrate that she's out of her fucking gourd.
Is it one of the things like because you have a face like that,
have no choice but to go into deadly poison.
You know, you can't, you know.
The name Dr. Psycho was already taken.
So she's like, oh, stop a bitch.
She was like, wait.
Nice try, woman.
This is February 1942.
When was Dr. Psycho?
1945?
Yep.
So she came first.
Yeah, but she wasn't smart enough to grab the Dr.
Psycho.
Yeah, that's the same.
Well, she was insane.
Look at her.
Yeah, look at the state of her.
All right, moving forward.
CERCy, we're back to the Greek Pantheon.
So we have Wonder Woman number 37, September 1949.
We are still in the 40s right now.
But Circe is a witch slash deity from the Greek mythology.
And her original origin, she had been banned from,
well, she'd been banned from Earth to an island in space
by Wonder Woman's mother, Hopalita,
before she came back to Earth for revenge.
she tends to manipulate other Wonder Woman villains into aiding her, partly because she can't use her powers against other immortals, which Wonder Woman technically is, because she's part God.
Her other big thing is that she can alter people's physiology, with her favorite is she loves turning men into animals, specifically pigs.
But yeah, no, standard witch powers aside from that reality altering, teleporting, clairvoyant, etc.
Okay, why pigs and not gorillas?
I think it's a comment on chauvinism.
Okay, which I think gorillas would also work.
Chauvinist gorillas?
Yeah.
Sure.
They're always big, strong showing off, showing off their muscles, like trying to big time everybody.
There you go.
She also, if I'm not mistaken, was sort of the red herring of the creature commandos cartoon.
Okay.
Okay.
I thought you were going to explain that a bit more, but I guess.
Not really.
I mean, that without going to the plot.
creature commandos, which I can't be bothered to.
All right.
Just that at the beginning of the show,
it made it seem like she was the main threat and she
wasn't.
Okay.
All right.
We'll work with it. Moving forward.
We have our first time of a character outside
of the 1940s all the way in 2011.
John, you'd probably be a little
more familiar with her because she is from the
Wonder Woman number one from the new 52.
It's Hera, who is the Greek goddess
of women in marriage.
Hates Wonder Woman, as she's a product
of Zeus's infidelities
was the major antagonist of the new 52 Wonder Woman
and in her retcon it was stated
she was the mother of the Amazons
but they have sense
undone that. So kind of like Aries
a lot of god powers, a lot of conniving and scheming.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah. I vaguely
remember her from the comics I read.
Major villain apparently.
I can't remember her.
How did you not remember her?
She's got a cool cape.
I mean, yeah, she's pretty stylish.
I'll give her that.
Do you like how she did her hair?
You know, she's about to kill people, but she's still like, I got to make sure that this.
She looks like she's about to go into the course of Rock Lobster, to be completely honest with you.
I would mind that.
Wait, wait, go to the last one, the one before this?
I'm not doing that because if I can only go forward.
I can't go back.
I'm just saying I can.
Yeah.
She also looks like she's been a beautiful.
Oh, my God.
Oh, boy, now we just need a guy to look like, was it, Fred Schneider?
Here it comes Dr. Psycho.
Here it is.
Sorry, that's very rude because I actually really like the B-52s.
I am a big fan of the B-52s as well.
We're just showing our love.
In a normal way.
In a normal way.
All right, moving past Hera.
You have Hercules.
First debuted in...
It's an alpha picture.
It certainly is.
So this is first debuted in All-Star Comics number 8 in January in 1942.
So is the Greek hero Hercules, traditionally shown as a hero.
In DC Comics, Hercules is a villain.
He had captured and enslaved the Amazons.
This woman right here is Apollita, Wonder Woman's mother, who he kept in chains.
He was used to deconstruct the traditional masculine hero
and often used when he's been used more recently as a foil to like Superman
to kind of show the difference between the traditional takes on masculinity
versus more of a modern sensibility of it.
But yes, Hercules was very good.
brash and arrogant and an asshole.
He enslaved all of the Amazons,
and Apollita eventually
outsmarted him, and that's what led
to them aligning themselves
with Aphrodite and Aphrodite hiding
Themisgira away from the world of man.
It's a hell of a picture.
It certainly is. This is from, if I'm not
mistaken, this is going to be from the
post-crisis
Wonder Woman series by
Perez, if I'm not mistaken.
The art looks like it.
It looks like he's about to like
I mean if this is wrestling it looks like he's wrapped the chain around his face
he's ready to hit her with it and she's begging him off like Rick Flair
he's going to get a thumb to the eye in no time
well I was going to say she's like this and then she's just about to like
not shot him with the chain and then he's going to look stupid
yeah he's going to drop the chain and she's going to like yank it up and knock him
on the floor you know and then she's going to hit all four turnbuckles and win the match
yeah exactly I mean it should be a traditional hook spot
And that's the most
We have to justify the name somewhat
Sometimes, yeah
Any other comments on Hercules
Especially how he's very different
From the Marvel Comics version
I think it's a cool idea
Honestly, I think the idea of like making him into a bad guy
And making him into like that foil for Superman I think is a good idea
But I don't hate that
He also looks very similar to the Marvel version as well
that could have been intentional
if I'm not mistaken
especially at the time
by I don't want to say for sure
I have another question
yes
it kind of looks like he has three legs
what's going on here
so he's wearing a lion's skin
across his back
that's part of the original trials of Hercules
he had to kill Leo the lion
so okay I get to
yeah that's what that thing that you're seeing is
is the lion's tail
okay because for a moment there
I'm like he's got three legs
and one of these legs is not part of him
Yep.
It's very clean.
I understand now.
Nah, you're good.
All right, moving forward.
Silver Swan.
Hello.
I had to give a lot of space for this one.
So she first debuted in Wonder Woman number 32, February, 1982.
She snuck in right before the crisis.
Serbian three versions of Silver Swan.
Pre-crisis was Helen Alexandros, a valerina who was passed up on opportunities due to being plain-looking.
Struck a deal with Aries to become beautiful in return to destroy.
in return to destroy Wonder Woman.
Post-crisis was Valerie Bodry,
a woman who was deformed in the womb
by radiation exposure while her mother was pregnant with her.
She volunteered for experimentation that led her
becoming the second Silver Swan,
where she received beauty and powers.
And then the third was a depressed woman
named Vanessa Capitellus,
who was manipulated by Circe into being magically altered.
In rebirth, they took back Capitellus,
but they decided she was a young woman
was paralyzed during a villain attack
and signed up for an experimental nanite treatment
that turned her into Silver Swan.
So Silver Swan obviously has flight powers.
Shasta has like a supersonic scream.
Which one is this?
If I'm not mistaken,
I think this is the Capitellus version.
Okay.
Interesting costume.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Next up.
That's it.
Dr. Cyber.
Hey.
The doctor.
So this Dr. Cyber first debuted in Wonder Woman 178 in November of 1968.
In pre-crisis, she was a leader of a criminal organization that rose to prominence after Wonder Woman gave up her powers and the Amazon's vanished.
I will explain that in a couple of slides, because there's a more fitting reason to explain it.
She had a robotic suit that gave her strength and other abilities.
In post-crisis, she was just a living computer, and in rebirth, she was a scientist who died while trying to protect a friend in a cyberdetic suit,
and then she was resurrected as living artificial intelligence.
So this isn't the same villain who was in one of the Superman movies, is it?
Might have been a, wait, which, are we talking about one of the anime at superhuman Superman movies?
No, one of the live action ones where, like Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor had like a couple of sidekicks,
and one of them was a woman.
And then the woman ended up getting stuck in a machine, which basically,
turned her into like this evil kind of
like living machine. I don't think that was intended
to be her. Okay. It was just a coincidence. Just a coincidence.
Yes, we got another doctor. He's just like a robot? Yeah, the
modern version is basically living AI.
Okay. Yep. It's moving forward.
Alcyon.
Alkion first debuted in
Wonder Woman number 14, January 2008.
She is a former captain of Apolitus guard.
She hated Diana as a child
and believed she was the cause of the Amazon's problems
and tried and failed to murder Diana
as a child multiple times was imprisoned.
She inevitably married Achilles
and for a short time ruled Themisgira
before she was killed by Wonder Woman and Apollita.
Is it onlers?
Yes, as part of her helmet.
Okay.
So she was,
she is another Amazon.
She was very well trained in skilled.
She was captain of Queen Apolitas, basically her honor guard,
and was tasked with protecting the royal family.
However, Wonder Woman's original, so, okay, we'll stop her here.
Do you know what Wonder Woman's original origin was?
She was a doctor.
Failed out of medical school.
Wasn't she made out of clay or something by Zeus?
So essentially what happened was
Hapolita
Because the Amazons were ever living
They were no young Amazons
They were all the same age as they always have been
Hapolita wanted a daughter
So she carved a statue out of clay
And prayed to Aphrodite
To basically give her a daughter
And Aphrodite basically granted her life
And so Wonder Woman
From the statue became a living, breathing little girl
Who grew up
modern day origins have wonder woman as the daughter of zeus and apolitah
there we go
so um
basically right when wonder woman was born is when the amazon started having
you know like they started having more issues
and alkyon thought that it was a sign that wonder woman was
Diana was evil and needed to be killed
and basically blamed her for all of the woes that were happening in themisgira
So does she not have any, like, extra powers aside from the usual kind of, you know, Amazonian super strength and whatnot?
Pretty much that.
She has that and she also has access to our next character.
Codice.
Whoa.
Codas debuted originally in Wonder Woman number 10 in November 1987.
he is a hundred-handed primordial son of Gaia.
He lived under Themisgira for thousands of years before he was awoken by Alcyon,
and he claims to be Wonder Woman's father in the post-crisis continuity,
as the clay that was used to mold statue came from his body.
Hmm.
So that is Wonder Woman fighting Codas.
I like that guy.
Pretty horrific.
That's a cool fucking guy right there.
I like that.
Ah, man, I can't wait for you see some of the other cool guys.
I wouldn't like to go out on a night out with him.
I think he'd be quite handsy.
Yeah, but think about how many pints he could buy you.
He could carry loads back from the bar.
That would be a good thing.
Yeah, I would assume he's going to pay for some of them.
Or he could just steal a bunch of them.
There you go.
There you go.
You know?
I mean, he could easily cause a distraction.
I mean, look at him.
100%.
I don't know if he'd be able to fit into the bar, but, like, we'll make it work.
we'll make it work
all right
moving forward
is his power
does he has loads of hands
no I mean he's he's a primordial being
so he has like
size strength
considered immortal
for all intends of purposes
I need to loads of hands
lots of hands
good okay
all right
making clear up next we have
Gundra
gunnra first debuted in comics
cavalcade number 17
in October of 1946
she's the queen of the valkyries
and was originally called upon
by Adolf Hitler to assassinate Franklin Delano
Roosevelt.
Awkward.
She fought Wonder Woman over Steve Trevor,
who was being held in Valhalla,
and she is basically kind of a carbon copy
of Wonder Woman except for like the Norse mythology
to kind of give you a difference between
good and evil.
Like here's an evil version of Wonder Woman.
Okay.
Doesn't get used a lot.
And that's a sign that things are about to start getting weird.
Oh, this is a turning point?
This is the turning point.
Okay.
Up next. Egg Fu.
Oh.
This is who we were talking about earlier.
I forgot about him.
So Egg Fu first debuted in Wonder Woman 157 in October of 1965.
The original Egg Fu was a Chinese communist agent who happened to be a giant yellow egg that was the size of a house.
Who used his Fu Manchu mustache like a whip.
The second egg foo was Egg Fu the fifth, who was a relatively,
the original egg foe who had captured Wonder Woman but was defeated after Wonder Woman
just said that she'd do a little dance for him and it got him a little too hot and bothered
and she was able to beat him at that point.
That really quickly before you go any further.
Yes.
There was the original egg food was an egg.
Yes.
An egg food, the fifth.
Also an egg.
So the second, third, and fourth were also eggs.
You had to have been.
They just didn't do anything.
No, they had like normal jobs.
Okay.
One is an accountant.
Another guy who owns like a laundromat.
He's a bus driver?
It's a bus driver.
It's a very big bus.
Okay.
But they were still called...
Egg foo.
Egg food.
Yes.
Okay.
Just making it clear that that exists.
All right.
The third egg foo was named Dr.
Yes.
Who's a robotic twin of the original egg foo.
Can you guess what he was a parody of?
Eggs?
I was going to say.
Dr. No from James Bond.
Exactly.
In post-crisis continuity,
Egg Fu became a supercomputer that was created from
Apocalypse Technology.
And in the new 50,
in the, well, not in the new 52, in the event
called 52, which was a weekly
comic book series that was put out
by an all-star team, including Grant
Morrison and Mark Wade and such, that was
this big year-long, overreaching
storyline. Egg Fu
became an apocalypse scientist
named Cheng Zhu, who
captured metahumans and committed
really horrific experiments on them.
But he was an egg?
He was an, well, yes, he was a giant
alien demigod
egg with spider legs.
Right.
And then finally, in the new 52,
Edgar Eggie Fullerton Young
is a deformed egg-shaped person who tried to
manipulate poison ivy into creating a potion that would make more people
like him, but he ended up making friends with Harley Quinn
and worked in a freak show.
Okay.
that's kind of nice
try to redeem him a little bit there
yeah let's redeem this horrible monster
and making him a freak
this is horrible original example of yellow face
that we keep trying to move past
but we can't keep making them a giant yellow egg
what exactly is going on in this picture
so he has captured two characters
one is Captain Boomerang Jr
well the second Captain Boomerang
who was kind of a hero
and then another character who I believe her name
was like Belatrix
or something like that.
And basically he just fucked him up.
Yes, I would imagine a lot of up-fucking is going on in this picture.
Yeah, yeah.
It's pretty grisly.
Yeah, he's just holding an arm.
Yeah, he's just holding him just a...
That looks like a ponytail, maybe that he's also grabbed or a scrap of fabric.
I don't know.
Half a mask.
Which egg food is this?
This would be the egg food that is a scientist from Apocalypse named Cheng Zoo.
Okay, cool.
Making sure we get the right egg food.
Yep.
I didn't put the original egg food because I would have felt really racist.
Which I think they already showed an image of on the show, but still, I don't like it.
The original one on, we might have got the thumbnail.
I don't think Corey wants out into thumbnail.
I don't think I do.
No.
All right, moving forward.
The Blue Snowman.
First debuted in Sensation Comics number 59 in November of 19.
Despite the gendered name,
Berna Brilliant,
inherited her father's technology after he died experimenting on blue snow,
a substance that could instantly freeze whatever it touched.
She attempted to ransom farmers out of their life savings by freezing their crops,
but was defeated.
And in post-crisis continuity,
she was a member of an ice-themed villains gang,
but was kicked out for not being cool enough.
That's fun.
The name of the villains,
the villains gang, by the way, was ice pack.
when they say she's not cool enough
like she's literally made out of fucking snow
no no that's all metal
what
that is a metal suit of armor
that can shoot out blue snow
right but the blue snow is coming out of her
yes
so she would be pretty cool
no they didn't think she was cool enough
maybe they just thought like the little hat in the pipe
was bad was like kind of corny
I mean
I'm not gonna like she's got cold buttons
she didn't have to be the blue snowman but she chose to be
what else are you going to call yourself
yeah i don't know i mean you could have also just not chosen that particular costume
you know what else i love about that costume is that they were like well i got to show
i mean business i'm going to design angry eyes into the costume frowny face that's part of the
design that i'm not happy blue snowman was the reason that i wanted to do this list with you guys
to be frank, because I was like, this is just
dumb enough.
You picked a good one.
I got to say, this is
something else.
All right. Moving forward.
Next we have mouse man.
First debuted in Wonder Woman
number 141 of October
of 1963.
He has the ability to shrink small and control mice.
He once stole Wonder Woman's magic
lasso and uses
his mice to scare women into dropping
their jewelry. One time he
drunk Wonder Woman to his size, thinking he would have an advantage, but was then beaten by a
block of cheese and was also defeated one time by a regular-sized Wonder Woman who sneezed.
I have a question.
Yes.
Just one singular question, although I might think of some others later.
Was beaten by a block of cheese?
Yes.
As in she wielded a block of cheese and beat him with it.
Okay.
She beat him up with the cheese.
Yes.
She used the cheese as a weapon.
cheese outsmarted him or something.
Yes, I thought that the cheese that grew arms and just started punching him.
Oh, we can only be so fortunate.
I don't want to cast aspersions to like any furries who might listen to this show,
but this guy definitely looks like a pervert.
He certainly does, doesn't he?
Yeah, that's not a cool costume.
Not good.
Yep.
Straddling a mouse as well.
Like, come on, dude.
Talking about going to the nearest mouse hole.
Like, that's just no need for that.
Squee, squee, squee.
Don't need this in our lives.
All right, next up.
Inversion, the inside out man.
What?
First debuted in Wonder Woman number 247 of September 1978.
His body turned inside out after failure with a matter-transporter experiment,
and his mission was to turn the world inside out, like him.
What is that what supposed to mean?
I don't know, but he was only in one comic ever.
That's a shame.
I would bring that guy back.
He seems like, don't worry about mice man can stay away.
Mouse man got featured in more comics than Inversion.
People are idiots.
Look at this guy and look at Mice Man and go, who do you think we'd be better in a comic?
Yeah, right.
You know?
All right.
Now, next up, after Inversion, we have fireworks, man.
did they just like forget how to come up with ideas?
Like I told you, they used all the good ideas in the 1940s.
So I first to use up all the good designs.
They're just like, I can't be bothered drawing anything.
Just make it this.
All right.
He first debuted in Wonder Woman 141 in October 1963.
He's a chemist who transformed his body into a living series of explosions.
While trying to kill Wonder Woman, he collided with a stray meteor and his entire body exploded, though.
A stray meteor.
Yep.
That's a straight meteor.
Pop them.
Okay.
Again, this guy, you can't do anything with this guy?
Like, what's going on with people?
I can write a story with that guy.
All right.
Next up, we've got the gentleman killer.
Debuting in Wonder Woman number 14 in September of 1945,
he was described as a vicious spy killer and expert marksman,
fought a Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor in a pocket dimension called Happy Shamrockland.
and he was armed with a handgun,
a quote, surprising amount of grenades
and magic darts he received
after manipulating leprechauns.
Clearly the worst one.
We still have many to go, Dylan.
We're not at the end yet.
I will tell you why this, so far this is the worst one.
Right?
Because you've got happy Shamrock land
and magic lepracons and all that shit.
Do you feel ostracized?
Which is supposed to be,
which is supposed to be some sort of Irish terrier
type and yet he looks like an
English gentleman and those are
two things he's not going
he's an English gentleman
he's an English gentleman he's an English gentleman
who manipulated the leprechauns
into giving him magic darts
which again
obviously for a lot of reasons
would not sit well with me
because I'm familiar
with the concept of horrible
British people coming over and
manipulated other people. Yeah John
not John John
John has never been over here.
John had nothing to do with the troubles,
no matter what you may want to agamize.
It wasn't me.
No.
But he might, maybe he didn't stop it.
Sure.
I don't know that.
But I don't think he's...
Did I just slap his kid again for emphasis?
You know how it can.
That's a shame.
I don't like this guy.
I don't like him.
What makes his, uh, darts, magic?
I don't really know.
They do tricks or?
No, I mean, he was only really in this one issue of Wonder Woman as well.
So they didn't really, you know, oddly enough when they were like, all right, we've got Dr. Psycho, we've got Ares, we've got Cheetah, we've got Dr. Poison.
Like, these are characters we can keep using again again.
Gentlemen Killer.
That's probably one and done.
You can see why.
Yeah.
I mean, the design is really uninspired.
It's really bad.
I don't like how his ties.
the same color as his shirt.
Yeah.
Not good.
All right. Next up after
a gentleman killer, we have Paper Man.
First debuted
in Wonder Woman number 165,
October 1960s.
He transformed into sentient paper by
accident after following into a vat of, quote,
special paper the military was experimenting with.
He has the ability to manipulate this form into an airplane,
a wadded up ball or a blowpipe
and he stole items hoping
to win the love of Diana Prince
aka Wonder Woman
So that's him stealing a fur coat to give to her
Question
The writing on him
Yes
Is that from a specific book
Or does he have the power to just be like
Today I'm going to show
How much of a literary genius I am
By manifesting
By own different like
This is the Bible today
Or this is you know
I think it was
I think it was the artist wanting to show off
their copy and paste technique, to be frank.
Because I think every panel I saw the writing was different.
Right.
It's what I mean.
Like, does he do that?
Or is it a byproduct of...
I know I saw one panel where he had apparently disguised himself in the background
because like this guy had walked into a room where the walls looked like
newspaper print and he popped out and got him.
That is a really, really terrible idea because I would argue that very few rooms.
so you walk into
wall paper
newspapers
yeah
yeah
also
this guy can't really go out
when it's raining
no
right
there's so many
problems with this guy
like if you're met
out of paper
is your first idea
like I gotta steal stuff
to give to Wonder Woman
well it's not to
give to Wonder Woman
it's to give to Diana Prince
at the time
Wonder Woman had a secret identity
where she was Diana Prince
and she worked for
the United States military
as kind of like a second
I don't think that has changed my question, Corey.
You were made out of paper, but you'd be like, I got to steal all this shit just to give
to a woman.
Well, I will.
So he accidentally fell into the, he basically what happened is he accidentally fell, you
know how like the Joker fell into the vatic chemicals that turned him into the Joker because
of like the interaction with Batman?
It was kind of the same thing except like Diana Prince gave him a compliment and he was so
overwhelmed that this attractive woman gave him a compliment.
he fell backwards into a vat of special chemical paper.
I understand that completely.
I do.
We should all be so fortunate as to be complimented by a beautiful woman that turns us into a paper monster man.
It's a dream.
It certainly is.
All right.
One of these days will happen to me.
All right, moving forward.
The Crimson Centipede.
What?
First debut in Wonder Woman 169.
April of 1967.
He was created by Aries to undermine
Wonder Woman's attempts to save the world of man.
He ran a criminal empire despite his obvious appearance
and was an expert marksman why he had so many guns.
I like the idea where it says,
ran a criminal empire despite his obvious appearance
as if like the guy that's a human centipede,
the police are always knocking at his door.
Like he's got to be up to something.
No way that fucking guy is not up to something.
This is profiling and this is wrong.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like he has to be.
up to something like they look at him
he's a fucking freak right
and then he's like hey I'm just trying to run a legitimate
business here
you know I'm just trying to run this gas station
my kids need brace I love
I love the guy in the background where his hat fell off
yeah I mean to be frank I'd be
I lost my hat too if I saw this monstrosity
yeah I'm out of a big bunch of guns
like what the fuck is that guy
who runs a laundromat do and stealing a lot money
the fools
I thought he was a nice guy you know
also
the top half of that body
I can understand
it doesn't seem to
it doesn't seem to connect anywhere right
no no I feel like
at some point they were like
I don't know how to do the connection
so we just won't
we'll just fuck it up
I don't think whoever
drew this has ever seen
the centipede before
they ever seen anything before
I don't
I mean those bags of money
look pretty convincing
I don't even think they do
The gums do it
No, even they look like
Peanets or something
He looks really odd
Like they're in odd shape
All right
Moving past the Crimson Cineepid
We have them
What?
Yep
Them
It's them
First debuted in Wonder Woman
Number 185 in December of
1969
They were a trio
Of cross-dressing hippies
With their leader
Top Hat and muscle
Moose Mama
Top Hat forces women
To wear a dog collar
And Moose Mama
is shown taking pills
and passing out in a stupor.
They are problematic to say the least.
I mean, you say problematic,
but I don't see any other comic
like highlighting cross-dressers
in such a prominent manner.
So this is the thing I have to explain
Wonder Woman in the 60s for you,
at least in this time period.
We have talked in the past about Dennis O'Neill,
Denny O'Neill,
who is one of my favorite comic book writers of all time.
Denny was the Batman editor at the time of the 80s and 90s
during the transition where Batman got more grim
and introduced all these great characters
he was the guy who was the architect for nightfall and such
his run on the question is one of my favorite of all time
so Denny O'Neill was a beatnik
he was a black turtleneck
piece button wearing hippie poet
and he was his first big comic book assignment
They said, Denny, you got Wonder Woman.
What are you going to do for Wonder Woman?
He's like, I got this great idea.
Let's make her a modern day girl.
Like, let's, like, embrace feminism and make Wonder Woman like an icon.
And he did it by taking away all of her powers, getting rid of all the things that made her special, and just turned her to a mod super spy.
So Wonder Woman had no powers.
She didn't have a lasso.
She didn't have her outfit.
The Amazon's all disappeared.
And for a period of time, she had no powers and was basically a woman that worked at a shop.
And you can see how that backfired really badly for Denny.
So another thing that Denny tried is Denny was really into the counterculture.
And because the Comics Code Authority was still in charge at the time, counterculture had to be villainized.
So his attempt at showing cross-dressing and lesbians, they had to be villains.
So, and an attempt to like introduce this like subculture to the world, he did a lot of harm by suggesting they're all pill-popping addicts and weird bondage freaks. Enjoy.
Okay. Well, I will also argue, yes, that does seem problematic. But in the decades before that, it did a really, really bad job of highlighting doctors.
Yes.
so
you know
I also have one more
question
yes
so there are three
women in this group
yes
one of them
is top hat
yes
I assume it's the
woman who
wears the top hat
yes
one of them
is moose mama
I'm going to
I don't know
who the third is
I couldn't find
any information
that was my question
by the way
they were in one
issue and that was it
a third one's the
most stylish one
yeah
yeah
I don't know. Are you saying the top hat looking like a pimp, Willy Wanka, and that cool?
No, that's exactly. Not as cool as that other, the black hat.
Yeah.
Okay. It's a little bit like a pirate hat.
Yeah.
Okay. I didn't expect us to get into a fashion talk.
No, live for Moose.
Look at them. How can we not talk over their fashion?
By the way, the young woman whose neck is breaking at an unusual angle, that is how Wonder Woman was portrayed in Danny O'Neill's run.
Okay.
She's a beautiful young woman.
mod girl of the 60s.
Fair enough.
Yep.
All right.
We'll move past them.
And to Glop.
So, Glop first debuted in Wonder Woman number 151, which is January 1965.
This was before Danny O'Neill took over.
And he was a foul-smelling amorphous alien creature that could turn into anything he consumed.
And that's about it.
What the hell did he consume that to turn into that?
See, I thought maybe he was what was inside of Egg Fu.
originally saw this picture.
That's grim.
So what else does he turn into?
I mean, you know, I think he like turns into a car at one point because he absorbs a car.
Okay.
Corey?
It's kind of like Kirby in a sense, but instead of like, yeah, I mean, it's kind of like Kirby in a sense.
Okay.
I think you might find the thumbnail.
Oh, we found Bloss.
Fair enough.
I was wondering who you were going to, who your eyes were going to cast on.
maybe you redraw us as them.
This guy's gonna be the most fun to draw.
That's fair.
Maybe the least racist.
So that's also fair.
Let's go with that.
All right.
I like this.
What else is this?
What else happened to Glop?
He was in one issue and that was it.
Ah,
Firework Man and Glop.
They're not doing it with the cool guys.
This is bullshit.
Fucking out, man.
All right.
Moving next.
We got the Purple Priestess.
First debuted in Wonder Woman number 25.
in September
1947.
She's a former Nazi
who poses as a priestess
that brainwashed her followers
with a purple gas.
There are a lot of Nazis
villains in the 1940s.
That's it.
It's the style of the time,
man.
So many Nazis.
Do a little time.
Yep.
There really much else
to say about her.
Okay.
We started to get
really skin and bones here
towards the end.
Yeah, I can see.
We glossed over glop,
you know?
Yeah.
I really want that word to say.
Yeah.
All right, next up.
Sharkita.
She first debuted in comics
Cavalcade number 21 in June of
1947. She is a shark
that was transformed to a mermaid to fight Wonder Woman.
All right.
Magic.
All right.
That's all the questions I had.
She also has butter. Who did the magic, though?
Believe it was Circe.
Okay.
You'll find that
a lot of that Circe or
Dr. Psycho was involved in some of these villains' backstories.
Okay.
I like how it's a shark that was transformed into a mermaid and you were like,
you thought a mermaid was a good way to fight somebody?
You didn't think a shark had like a bunch of really good ways to kill people.
Yeah, you've got to be.
Severely reduced the amount of like mouth diameter and teeth.
Like deadliness that a shark would have.
Yeah, don't need it.
But titty's got to get.
get them in there. They're in.
That's what we need.
And our final member, Dr.
Domino.
First debuted in Wonder Woman
number 205, April of
1973. He's ahead
of a terrorist organization. He has a
domino for a head. I'm not sure if it's a mask or not.
And this is the only comic he appeared
in. We will never find out
why.
Well, that's as frustrating
because that was going to be my number one
question. We don't know.
in the 70s,
did they just have like no ideas at all?
Listen,
the crisis happened for a reason.
It was a reset that was needed.
Because at that point,
they had three cheetahs.
Yeah,
you can just kill off a lot of these people.
You don't have to like reset the whole comic.
They did.
That's why I'd keep couple new ones.
I look his gloves, though.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
This kind of looks like he should be more of it.
a villain for the tick than
Wonder Woman. I mean, he's sitting in a wicker chair
for God's sake. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, this is not a serious
character. No, no.
But he's the last of our Wonder Woman villains.
We end up with Dr. Domino?
We end with Dr. Domino. Wow.
Yep.
Guys, that was
a brief foray into the world of Wonder Woman villains.
Now, I left out some
bigger ones there, like you said.
There are a lot of Greek villains.
the characters from Greek mythology, whether they're gods.
She's messed around with other gods as well.
But I wanted to give you kind of an example of like, here are the classics,
here's some lesser known ones, and then here's some fucking offbeat ones that she had.
Kind of like what we did with Aquaman.
Yeah.
So, John, what would you say is your main takeaway from this rundown of Wonder Woman villains?
It definitely seems to be a whole lot of doctors who have an issue with the Wonder Woman.
woman. I'm not
sure why this is. She's anti-vaccine.
Oh, okay, that explains it.
Wonder Woman's all
about that tallow. She's like, you don't need to
cook in seed oil.
Drink some bleach.
Just drink some bleach. Drink raw milk.
It's good for you.
She's been the villain all the time then.
She's the real villain.
John, I have a question.
Okay.
Out of all of the
Wonder Woman villains that we saw,
now that we've got to the end of it,
which one of them do you think is a pedophile?
Now, we'll gloss over Dr. Psycho
because we covered that.
Now that we've seen the rest of them,
we're like...
He seems the obvious choice in my opinion.
It's definitely Dr. Domino, right?
I don't know.
I'm still leaning towards,
what was it?
Mouse man?
Mouse man?
Yeah, mouse man.
100%.
Definitely, Mike's man.
He's up to something.
Yeah.
He's up to something.
He was a little too gleefully riding on those mice.
You know what I mean?
Just don't check his hard drive.
Or do, and send him to prison.
Jesus Christ.
God's sake.
20 years from now, some filmmaker will make a thing
where a character is going to dress up like Mouse Man
and people in America are going to be like,
oh, what a cool, unique look.
Let me dress up like him and go see the movie.
Not know who the fuck he is.
Or they knew exactly who he was,
and he's their new hero,
because by that point, America will have devolved,
into like something.
It was a bit of a de-evolution going on over here as well.
That is very true.
That is very true.
Good luck with that.
All right.
Well.
My slants would be like the 50th pres of the United States.
John or Dylan,
I was going to ask,
were your,
any takeaways you had that we didn't already cover?
Glop,
glop, glop's my favorite.
Gloop's your favorite.
I forgot all about egg food.
And I'm a little annoyed that you reminded me of him.
I'm happy not going down that.
road. Dr. Domino was a lovely end. You had to know there was five of them, you know, five or six of them.
I love how there were five of them, but not the five that were actually called egg food,
which is perfect, isn't it? Yeah, the first one, the fifth one was the fifth one. Three other dudes. Yeah,
like one of them, one's the computer, one's like a scientist from another planet. The other's just a guy.
Yeah, fucking, Nicknamed him happened to have something to do with eggs. I'm like, well,
that's good enough for me. Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about it. Your egg, you know. Like, I wouldn't
like that.
No.
Your nickname's eggs.
Well, now you're a giant egg.
You're like, oh, shit.
I didn't pick my nickname.
That's not fair.
No.
You know?
Um, I really like
Firework Man as well.
I feel like, there was a bunch there that I'm like, oh, if I was writing this
shit, I would have a great time of Firework Man and Glop.
I would team them together.
You know, actually, we did an episode a couple of months ago where we took like kind
of lame villain characters and we had to kind of make them cool.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe that's something.
we need to do is we need to look at these wonder we'll look at these wonder woman and aquaman villains
and randomly assign them out like we did previously and like you got to make fireworks man cool
i would argue that a lot of those aquaman villains are unintended dead in the water
not like the purple was it that the purple creatures are uh bugula not boogala it just i i think
there's nothing we can do for them that's fair you know i don't think they're beyond
rehabilitation.
But I'm sure I can do something with
Firework Man.
I can fix him.
I can change him.
Or was it like Mr. Electric
or Electric Man that Aquaman had that he could
only go out during thunderstorms?
Yeah.
He could manipulate electricity but he couldn't generate it.
Yeah, that's problematic.
That one's going to be tough.
Yeah.
All right.
John, as you wrap things up,
what are we sitting out on your movie count for the year?
So at the moment, my movie count for 2026 is 105 movies.
Already in triple digits and is still, well, the time of recording January, by the time of the release February, which is still kind of fucking early when you think about it.
Considering, I think, like, the number of movies I watched last year was like 15.
Oh, how many?
I don't watch movies.
John, what was the last movie that you watched, though?
The last one I watched was
The World's End.
Oh, the Cornet
trilogy?
Yes, the final
chapter in it.
Probably the weakest of the bunch, I think.
Really?
Yeah, I think Sean of the Dead
and Hot Fuzz are both
like classics. They're both
sort of war-to-war funny.
whereas this one is a bit more kind of,
I don't know, depressing in a way.
I was just going to say it's not an indictment on that movie.
It's just sort of like how good the other two are.
That's like it's a perfect fine movie.
It's just the other two are so like well done and well received.
Because I think Sean of the Dead kind of captures the same kind of tone
that at the world end kind of like was doing as well but better.
Because like shot in the Dead was real fucking grim at times.
well yeah but i i think the like sort of laugh ratio was better definitely in shorn of the dead than it
is in the world's end and i think simon peg in the world's end is just his character is not a fun
character and when he's like you know basically the suicidal character yeah so it's a bit of a
a tough sell compared to the other two but you know like you say i said the exact
same thing in my review. It's still good,
just not as good as the others.
What did you give it out of five?
I gave it
three and a half.
Respectable.
Respectable three out of five.
Or three and a half out of five.
So John, where can they see
that review as well as the other
104 movies you've watched?
They can find it
on Letterboxed
at Big John
Bowsky, Ormwood.
And Dylan, what have you been
get us to you lately.
Well, me and Dr. Dominov in
forming a book club,
which is tough because
it's hard to talk about the books because
he doesn't have a mouth.
No. Or eyes.
We can't read the books. He looks like he has
six holes, but they're just filled in
little like crevices. Yeah.
Are they eyes? Are they, is myth?
I don't know. I didn't ask.
I don't think we're going to have a second
book club. I'll be honest with you.
Not a fun vibe.
Other than that, though, I do a radio show that we do every Monday nights, 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock, UK time.
And find to digital radio.com.
You can find a link somewhere.
A lot of fun music.
So check that out if you like music.
And I stream sometimes on Twitch at Spooky LaRue, and I draw pictures there, and I animate those pictures and make them into animations on Team Crows and I.
on YouTube.
I don't know TikTok,
but I think we might be getting off TikTok
because once again,
everything fucking sucks.
I heard weird stuff was happening
with TikTok over the weekend.
Yeah, it doesn't sound good.
So when we say over the weekend,
we mean a month ago.
Literally,
a month ago.
The weird thing has already happened.
Yeah, at the time of this release,
people are like,
what the fuck is TikTok?
It's already been mind wiped from us.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, that's what I do.
All right.
I have my other show,
Large Old Cup,
which has come back in recent weeks,
except a month ago.
So there's more episodes likely.
And, yeah, that's what I got going on.
That's a link to that in the description,
as well as a writing project that may or may not also be coming back.
I'm not too sure quite yet.
In the meantime, though,
we're going to get the fuck out of here and go look at some more obscure Wonder Woman villains to redeem.
Until then, we'll see you guys next time.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Bye-bye.
That was glop.
