The Smark Avengers - Relaxed Fit: Superhero Movies, Fighting Games, and More

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

After capping off their year and a half long Avengers Auction project, the Smark Avengers are back with a relaxed fit episode! As is tradition with the relaxed fit, Corey, Dylan, and Jon don’t really know what they’re going to talk about before they record and let the conversation flow naturally… and did it ever! Almost immediately this one goes off the rails so… strap in! 🧘Sit back and relax as the lads discuss: - Supergirl’s disappointing performance at the box office - Is the upcoming Spider-Man or Avengers movie the litmus test for if the superhero movie bubble has burst - Upcoming DC movies Dynamic Duo, Clayface, and The Batman 2 - Does the rumored Dynamic Duos plot ruin the Dick Grayson and Jason Todd characters - The insane world of Injustice: Gods Among Us DC Comics continuity - Fighting games like Street Fighter, Smash Brothers, and more - The upcoming Street Fighter movie versus the 90s Street Fighter movie - And circling back to fighting games leads to a bizarre conversation about Dracula Once more the lads test the idea of whether or not they need more structure in their lives? 💬 Join the discussion: What are your thoughts on the future of superhero movies? 👍 Like the video if you enjoy comic book related discussions and humor 🔔 Subscribe for more comic deep dives, reviews, rankings, and debates Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f Also be sure to check out New Number Ones posted every week on the Smark Avengers YouTube channel!

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Oh. That's what he called his penis. That's the start of the show. There we go. Hit the ground running. That's what we do here. Everybody, welcome to spark of your name is Corey with me, Dylan and John. I was going, guys.

All good. Yeah. We started the show. We don't know what we're going to talk about. So there we go. It's a mystery. It's a mystery. Well, I mean, we talked about a little bit of a some something.

Earlier today where they officially revealed Bruce Wayne's new butler, which they had talked about for several weeks, if not months at this point, where Verity Pennyworth is going to be the, major domo buttlet not a main do we like trademark buttlet

I feel like someone probably has a has a trademark on it and it's for something that we're not talking about oh for a buttlet yeah okay well ours would be

well we could still apply for a trademark because it's for a completely different area as it were. There would be no confusing our two things, I don't think, because they're two very different. Two very different things.

Ours is about a lady butler. What's the other one about? The other botlet that's already been trademarked. But butt stuff. Probably. You know how Uncle Fester would put a light bulb in his mouth and it light up? The same thing, but with a different orifice.

Okay. I'm a different. I like a electrical emblem. It was like a fluorescent light tube for that one. It was all over GCW. John Moxley gets hit in the head with it. Yeah, it was very graphic. And not at all pleasant to watch.

Five and a half stars. I'm not into it, but other people are seven stars. I loved it. The crowd loved it, seven and a half stars. I thought it was disgusting, but the crowd was into it. I couldn't watch it.

It was horrible. that one starts that's always like the Hollywood Hogan versus rock thing it was just like uh you know it was kind of not that great but the crowd seemed really like it still eh you know four and a quarter whatever it was

I'd fucking love that match and it has still historically gone down as one of the best pro wrestling matches in easily the last 30 years and Meltz was like I can remember this you remember this shitty match

from the Tokyo Dome more than Toden versus the Rock. Can you imagine? Yeah, but No Jumoxi versus Kenny Omega though. Did I get five stars? I don't remember.

Probably. I imagine so. I would imagine so if I know that guy at all. What we talk about? I don't even know. But stuff. Oh, we're talking about butt stuff. We were talking about butt stuff. So should we continue

you did that or I don't think we can spin it for a whole episode I guess I guess one of the more topical things we can talk about is that Supergirl didn't do great okay this is true have you either have you seen it

no I'm not not yet no it's been John's been international playboy and hasn't had the opportunity to watch it no he's just a national playboy now he's just a nationalist list. That's not phrase it like that.

No? No? Okay. Dude. We're fired at all cylinders today, are we? We're in a fucking mood. That's for sure. No, I'm going to go out of the finger. I mean, like I said, you end the therapy session making a reference to Eric Clapton's kid dying. Therapist starts laughing going, that's dark. And I went, all right, bye.

And I just hung up the call. All right, bye. Yep, later. Bye. Yeah. It's a layer fucker. Pretty much. See you next week. Sounds like I'm already well.

You'll see you next week. Yeah. Wow. I see it weekly anyway. Yeah. Supergirl. Okay. So neither of you have seen it.

Do either of you want to see it? I kind of do. I mean, I'm, I've kind of, I was a little on the fence with it to start with. I, I think like, I'm always of the opinion of like Jason Mamoa As Lobo is good casting. But like I didn't, when I saw the trailer, I just didn't, I didn't care for the look they gave them. I don't know. I feel like they could have done better, like on his appearance.

I think it was an interesting choice to do a Supergirl movie immediately after Superman. Yes. And have the whole thing kind of be on her shoulders. But, I mean, you know, if they had just done like, all right, we're going to do Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, etc., then would we have be on the opposite in saying like, oh, they're playing too safe? So it's like we, John and I had an episode we were talking about like James Guns handling of the DC side and going, he's making a lot of really weird decisions on the stuff that he's wanting to make shows and TV and like movies of. Because it's like the first thing you did was creature commandos. You're like, creature commandos. What the fuck?

You know? And then peacemaker. And it's like, and then Superman. It's like, eh. But, you know, he's in his wheelhouse. Now, I don't know if he had a ton to do with this one. It's under his umbrella. Yeah, it's under his umbrella.

I think he probably had something to do with the casting of Millie Alcock as Supergirl as well. Yeah. Because she was, she made a cameo appearance in his Superman movie. And I don't know, like

from the original trailers, it looked very much like it had his fingerprints on it and like it had a bit of a Guardians of the Galaxy vibe to it. Apparently it's not like that at all. Like, I've heard reviews saying it's more

Mad Max than it is Guardians of the Galaxy. Well, so yeah, from the story is adapting Girl of Tomorrow and it's adapting it in a big way, but I heard they changed the ending to it. And I appreciate that they're making

Kara a little angstier because it would make sense. Like, you know, when Calell was sent to Earth, he was a baby. He had no memory of Krypton or anything about it. When she was sent, she's a teenage girl. So, like, she has a memory of her parents and the civilization and her people.

And, like, she turns up on Earth, and this baby that she saw is, like, a grown adult man that's actually older than she is. Like, it would make sense why she would have, like, a bit of a chip on her shoulder, why she'd want to go off on her own into space and kind of, like, go to these planets that don't have a yet. yellow sun so she can like get you know drunk but like I don't know I again I wonder about like the tone and just overall superhero fatigue I feel like the big one that we're going to judge on whether or not has a superhero bubble like officially burst is going to be the upcoming spider man movie it's a marvel movie and it's a big name Marvel character so if that underperforms, then I think you can make the grounds for, I think we've just moved past this as a culture.

Like, we can keep making them, but we're not going to expect them to make millions of dollars anymore. I mean, they'll make millions of dollars, but like, as much as they were. Yeah, billions. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think is, I don't know, though. I think certain characters, like Spider-Man, especially, like, his three, like, Tom Holland's three

Spider-Man movies have all done really well at the box office and had like sort of fan acclaim as well. Yeah. So I think he's got, well, Spider-Man, this new one has got a lot of equity behind it. So I would be, I'd be really shocked if it doesn't perform at the box office. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Supergirl is like, people knows who Supergirl is, but they don't really know the character. like they just know oh that's the girl version of Superman like some in some instances they don't even know her relation to Superman so like spider man's a proven commodity with several movies Tom Holland Toby McGuire Andrew Garfield you know cartoon shows international appearances with our friends in Japan you know like that is a much bigger name brand a bigger recognizable look people know the origin story and of bitten by the radioactive spider, if that doesn't perform, that's how you tell the bubble burst.

Because that's something, like, as you said, has a lot of equity behind it. I feel like, well, I don't know, I feel like the real test is going to be whatever the fuck. Doomsday. Yeah, I was going to call it Kang. I'm like, it hasn't been Kang in like four years. Yeah, Doomsday,

because the thing about Spider-Man is because he has such equity, even if the film's total guard, beach, it's going to make a shit ton of money. Oh, we're not talking to... I don't think quality matters in the conversation. I think what matters is the money. Because, like, that's something that people will always point to.

Well, I think the quality does matter in that a lot of the Marvel films have been so highly rated at the beginning. And then recently, Spider-Man aside, there's been quite a mixed opinion, mixed to negative opinion on a lot of the more recent Marvel films that has kind of disappointed people, maybe because their expectations are too high, or maybe because the stories that are being told aren't interesting. Yeah, I mean, I feel like Domsday is their big, like kind of last gas, big pitch, like, if this doesn't work, fuck kind of thing.

And I feel like they're really going to go for it. And if that's, if that feels, then they're like, well, I don't have, I don't have the same hope for Doomsday that other people do. Because at this point, we're watching a bunch of elderly X-Men is everything I've seen as like gray-haired nightcrawler and shit. Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't have that

warm, fuzzy feeling towards Doomsday that I think other people do. But, like, I really do think the litmus test is Spider-Man. I mean, it's, it's Spider-Man, you know? The last Marvel movies have been stuff like Thunderbolts

and, like, things like that. Like, Thunderbolt's got really good, like, reviews, but it underperformed. You know, people didn't want to see it. And we, a lot of that was like, who are these characters? You know, like, we saw them introduced in all these other movies, but like, why should we care about what happens to them? Right. But that's what I mean about Doomsday and that that's when they're getting all their big

characters together. That's when they're going to be like, oh, no. For a fact, they're getting all their big characters together. They're going to have some pretty big hitters in it. Yeah, yeah. I know that we got Robert Downey Jr. I know that likely some of the characters that are like still established as being in the canon will be there. But like, do we know Chris Evans will be in it?

Yeah. That's confirmed. He's confirmed as Captain America. Not an old man. I think so, right? Okay. Yeah, because there was a teaser trailer with him being in the house that he goes to like live with Peggy hanging up his costume basically. As an old man?

Yeah. No, no, no, as the young, you know, Steve. As a regular man. Okay. Stop your mind. I've not been watching teaser trailers. I try to avoid them because I don't like to know what stuff's happening. And I think that like, because we live in the age of short attention span, they give away too much shit.

These teaser trailers, it was that one, there was another one. Who was the other one? There was a X-Men one where it was just like a Magneto, voiceover pretty much talking about the dark days that they've been going through and stuff and it ends with like a classic shot of like cyclops kind of screaming into the void while his uh you know ibeams come out yeah i just all i'm gonna say is poor i'michellen can we can we let the man rest no he's so old um that that teeth that captain margithes he's trailer it wasn't really like

it was a teaser trailer it wasn't like this is it's not necessarily specifically in the it's kind of like what do you think of this this will get you interested yeah it was all like all the teaser trailers that

they released are very vague and didn't really give much of anything away except for here's a glimpse of these characters you know they're back to give you enough where you're like oh hello you know. Yeah.

But it didn't really show off, like, a lot of the film. And you're like, well, this is actually a teaser trailer. Mm-hmm. But it's actually, like, making me interested in see. Because it's focused more on the characters that are going to be involved more so than, you know, African America flying a ship up through the sauna or whatever. So another of the superhero films that are upcoming is one of those other James Gunn choices in the DC realm that has confused. some people, which is Clayface,

which is going to be dark and kind of scary, apparently. And there are rumors of, like, test footage or early screenings that are being very well received. I still question why we're going Clayface before we get Batman.

But, you know, again, we talked about that. You either play it too safe or you take too many risks. I feel like there, apparently there is no middle lane. So there's that. There is also Man of Tomorrow, which is going to be a Superman Lex Luthor team up against Brainiac. And they announced the casting of Brainiac, who is an actor I'm not familiar with. But I'm sure it'll be fine.

You can't get Jeffrey Holmes, you know. Who is to who is Braheek? I can't even remember. I wasn't sure if that was a question of like, who is he as a character? No, it's who is he and who is playing him. A guy called Lars Edinger. Edinger. There you go.

That's a lovely German. Okay, well, that could be fun. Could be. So there's that, which the first pictures of Lex in a power suit has come out. And a lot of people said he looked kind of like Buzz Lightier. Which I saw and I was like, I mean, accurate. The power suit has always been a bit goofy.

I feel like that's kind of the point of the power suit. It's like, look at the, look at the links this guy is going, just to see if he could stand up face to face with him, you know? There are also, there's the second Matt Reeves Batman, who originally was announced that Sebastian Stan was going to be Harvey Dent, and now I'm hearing that he's going to be Victor Zaz. Well, yeah, I think the Harvey Dent one was, is like what he actually is playing. I don't know where these Zaz rumors have come from.

Yeah, that seems really weird that you would cast Sebastian Stan to be Victor Zaz. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you think they'd give him a bigger character than that. Yeah, I mean, ultimately, I don't know how familiar Dylan you are with Victor Zaz. Victor Zaz is a serial killer who, when he kills someone, he carves a tally mark into his body. So his body is covered in tally marks. And that's it. Like there's nothing else to him.

He doesn't have powers. There's no tragic, like, backstory, anything I'm aware of. It's very one-note character. Okay. Like, there's a reason at Arkham Asylum, the video game, he's like the first named villain you encounter. And it's mainly just a tutorial of how to use the XVIote. explosive gel. Like, you know, he's not meant to be a major threat.

Yeah. Okay. So there's those as well that are that are out there. I did see apparently a plot synopsis for the Dynamic Duo movie has come out. And if that's the case, I have no interest in seeing it. So first off, Dynamic Duo is going to be. a combination of puppetry and animation and maybe live action from I understand.

Cool. And so it's going to center around Dick Grayson and Jason Todd, who are Nightwing and Red Hood, but it's going to be centered on them as children, and they're going to be like street urchins with apparently like the big reveal being that Dick Grayson gets adopted by Batman and Jason Todd gets inducted into the Red Hood gang.

Uh-huh. And I saw that and I was like, I don't, I don't want to watch that. I, um, there's a horror movie podcast I was listening to for a while that was hosted by two drag queens, which is fucking phenomenal. Listen. Um, and they were review, they were reviewing the show, the show Welcome to Dairy, which is like the spin off to the it movies that came out a few years ago. And in it, they were asked, like, one of the hosts is like, oh, I can't wait to watch. is it looks so interesting. And the other one's like,

I don't want to watch a show about a bunch of fucking kids. And I feel that way about myself. I don't want to watch a movie center around a bunch of fucking kids. I'm almost 40. I don't fucking care what this 12 year olds up to. I feel like a coming of age movie like that

only works when you're around that age. Like some of them are a classic for sentimental reasons or like, they deal with subject matter that's maybe a little too dark for what they should be, like a stand by me or something. something like that.

But ultimately, like, for years I was trying to convince a friend of mine to watch the Goonies, and they refused to watch it, because they're like, why would I want to watch a movie about a bunch of fucking kids? And I went, I get it.

But literally, it was a movie I watched all the time as a kid, and I was always entertained by it. And it's insane to me that you made it 37 years in your life, and you've not seen the Goonies. I think this is a strange way, look at things to go like, well, I'm not a kid, so I have no interest in a film about kids. Because you're like, you watch films about space creatures and gangsters and you're not those things.

I think there's a difference, though, because it has to do with like, there's a difference between a kid's movie and like a movie that's centered around a kid. I feel like there is a difference in that. And when you're telling me that this movie is going to be animated and there's going to be puppets, I'm feeling it. it's going to be more of a kid's movie than a movie centered around kid. Like, it's like saying that if you were going to watch like Stand By Me, but it was all going to be done by the Hinson Company, which in retrospect probably would have been fucking killer. Right.

That's the Henson Company. This was a misstep, Corey. That sounds great. I know. I played myself on that one because I mentioned the Henson Company. Anytime you mention Jim Henson, it's like, actually, that could have actually been really fucking cool. Well, let's think about it.

thing about the Henson's in general is that those puppets could easily like flick between regular kid-ass, you know, straight up, um, child's film for kids, or it could be like a more adult, you know, more, um, more grown-up-American style. Yes, exactly. Like, the genius of that is that they can kind of do both. Sometimes at the same time. And you wouldn't, you wouldn't balance. island. You would be like, yeah, fair enough. They did a really good job of showing that

puppets and those kind of things don't actually have to be for children. I think people associate them with children because children identify with them. So easily, it's very easy to keep a child amused by waving a hand puppet at them. And that does a disservice to us as adults who can actually like appreciate a lot of different media more. that we just don't do that we just want regular very gritty and angry films about depressing things and just like it's the way the people associate like an animated film with like being it for kids and like well you're you know it makes animated films it's all adults they make them you know adults can enjoy animation as well so you know i'm quite intrigued by this honestly like the puppet

animation thing. Like, for me, like, probably out of all the films we're going to talk about today, that's the one that's the one that's made me the most, like, interested.

I want to say as well, like, I think the idea of, uh, you know, um, Dick Grayson and Jason Todd being, like,

on similar paths, but then diverging off sounds kind of interesting as well. I would, it would say definitely a different take because, um, like, depending on pre-crisis or post-crisis, the dynamic between Dick Grayson and Jason Todd are very different.

Pre-crisis, Jason Todd, like, is a redhead who dives his hair black to look like Robin, and, like, has sort of like a brotherly relationship with Dick. And then post-crisis is Dick Grayson becomes nightwing, goes off to the Titans, and then gets replaced by Jason Todd and didn't know about it until after the fact. And is there to cement more of that wedge. between Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne. Like there's conflict there of like, you not only replaced me,

but like Robin was my identity. That was my name. That was my thing. And you just gave it to someone. Like that, what the fuck is that? So it's a very different take in them knowing each other. Because like when Jason Todd dies,

that is one of those things that like in post-crisis continuity, Dick Grayson felt bad about because he's like, I didn't really even know him. like I felt bad because this guy got brought in to replace me obviously wasn't prepared for the role made mistakes and is now dead and it feels like this is somehow on me they could do that in the film

I mean not if they're friends I don't know if they could do that but because then like if you have Jason Todd joining the Red Hood gang then I think you're also excluding Jason Todd ever being Robin hmm because I like that's the other thing is I feel like we're trying to introduce too many robins at one time because they already said that Batman Brave and the Bold, which is the inevitable Batman movie they make, will have Damien as Bruce's kid.

So we're going to introduce two Robbins ahead of time. And it definitely sounds like Dick Grayson's going to serve a role as Robin for a period. But I don't think it's going to mean Jason Todd will have. And if you lose that, that's a very big part of the Jason Todd. character is dealing with that angst and regret and bitterness of being seen as the failed Robin, the one who fucked up. I think you could still play with it in a way, though. Like, if, say, Batman choosing Dick Grayson makes Jason feel rejected by Batman,

like, you could still play with those similar kind of feelings of resentment and whatnot. and, you know, lead him down a dark path that way. I think he still has to die, though. He still has to die, and he still has to get resurrected. I feel like... Yeah, death is a very big part of the Jason Todd character. Mm. Because he dies in a very noble way.

Like, he dies trying to save his mom. Yeah. He's the one that, like, slips on a thing and, like, pangs your head on the rock. That is the injustice continuity for Dick Grayson, where he slipped and fell and broke his neck. Wow. Yeah, injustice, man. That is a whole world right there. That is a whole world.

Classic. There was like this big thing of like people are wondering like, oh, where's Tim Drake in the injustice continuity? And it's revealed that he and the other Titans were like stuck in the phantom. zone and he comes out of the phantom zone and then superman inadvertently hits him with heat vision through the heart and it kills him almost immediately like he just gets reunited he's like batman dead you know like jesus i mean that would kill most people immediately i would say yeah yeah yeah yeah that'll do it for sure it's why uh there's a injustice is full of a lot of a lot of weird little stuff like that.

Like the injustice green arrow gets killed by Superman because he inadvertently kills Superman's dad with a kryptonite arrow. Like Superman avoids the kryptonite arrow, but it hits his dad in the chest and he kills him. And then Superman is so enraged, he beats Green Arrow to death. Fair enough. Yeah. Seems fast.

Yeah. Yeah. And justice, like I said, injustice is such a weird continuity. And then like they brought in a different green arrow into the, the injustice continuity, like from a different parallel world. And he marries that world's black canary because that world's black canary was grieving. And then she somehow becomes a green lantern as well. But that didn't make it into the second game.

That was only in the comic. And I still think my favorite part of the injustice continuity is so it all kickstarts because a combination of fear toxin. in manipulation by Joker and Harley Quinn has Superman kill Lois Lane. And after he realizes what he's done, he becomes enraged and kills the Joker. And then Harley Quinn becomes a hero somehow? And it's like aligned with Batman and like the people that are against Superman. And it's like, hold on.

This is kind of your fault because you were, you are part of the plan that causes whole mess. Yeah. I know they addressed it in the comic a little bit, but I'm not a fan of the injustice world, so I didn't read it in that great depth. Because like I said, it's just a messy little video game made by the Mortal Kombat people, mainly to test stuff that they want to put in a Mortal Kombat game,

but they're not sure if it'll work yet. So they put it in injustice first. And if it works, great, we'll put it in Mortal Kombat. And if it does it know well. Fair enough. I know you're really, I mean, I don't think you would like them, Dylan.

No. No, because you strike me as like, because we've talked about like, you're a Capcom, like Marvel versus Capcom guy. And like, Mortal Kombat games are like the polar opposite

of a Capcom fighting game. Because Capcom fighting games require like skill and knowledge and ability to do kind of complicated like input commands. And Mortal Kombat is the world of like left right left right a and you rip your opponent's neck off you know yeah

I feel like you wouldn't like it I feel like you'd be more of a purist you think I don't because it's too basic for I think it's too bad I think you would think it's too basic for you I love playing super smash brothers and there's basically one button in super spas I don't know I've met some super smash brothers people who act like it's a fucking science it's a Well, that's the thing. Technically it is. But, like, realistically, it's just A and then up or down or left and right.

And then sometimes B and then up and down left and right. Mainly A. Mainly A. Yeah, yeah. So, again, the beauty of Smash Brothers is in how simple it is. It's another one of those. Anybody can pick it up and play it. Like, it's not...

The problem of the street fighter game is... If you want to be good at that, you're either like really skilled at learning a lot of buttons, or you just press A, a shit ton of times. I, um, you win. A few years ago, there was a video that was making the rounds of a guy playing against someone in Street Fighter and the dude just annihilates him very quickly. And the guy gets really upset and walks away and they, like, they make fun of him for crying. and I remember like finding the context of that and it was a situation that like

the guy that was really good is just really really good at more at Street Fighter and like the other guy paid him money to play against him so that he could learn from him and he didn't learn anything from just getting his ass whipped in like 15 seconds so he was upset that he based at his money I mean

that's his fault because if you have a pro street fighter player. Yeah. And you had money to spend. Why wouldn't you say, hey man, I'll give you some money if you teach me how to play street I don't know if that was the agreement and the guy just reneged on the agreement last minute or what, but like he said, the guy seemed very, he was legitimately very upset

with how that went. Like anybody, like, if the deal is just play me at this game, I'm sure through osmosis, I'll just pick up how to be good. It's not the same as playing chess. You can learn how to play chess better by playing against people who play. chess really well. But if you're playing like Street Fighter and somebody annihilates you, you're like, what the fuck? What just happened?

That's the end of it. You need to talk to that guy and be like, hey, man, how did you do all the shit you just did to me? Or how would I go by doing all that stuff to somebody else? Yeah. So that seems like a bad. I thought you're going to say that others, there used to be this really, really, really famous Street Fighter video

of Street Fighter 3, but they're at a tournament. and this guy is like obliterating the other person and has them done like a sliver of hell and then it starts doing their like super combo and then the other person with a sliver of health like in Street Fighter 3 you can parry a move so it's like not just a block but you like propel it

so it does chip damage and this guy just like parries every single like pixel perfect every single bit of this guy's super combo and then like knocks him out And it's like the coolest thing in the world to see. Of course, this was filmed in like 2001. So it's all the fucking...

Yeah, it looks like it was filmed on a potato. It's the quality's not great. But like, when you know what you're looking like, it's fucking astounding. To see, even the thought that the game could have such depth and beauty to it. See, this is why I was saying that I don't feel like you'd enjoy injustice. Because injustice, you do your super move by hitting like, Left trigger, if I'm not mistaken, you know?

Yeah. You do enough damage, you can save enough the energy. You go, ah, and then you're doomsday punching someone through the center of the earth. But you got to keep it simple for the people. Yeah. John, have you ever played injustice? No, I have not. Injustice gods among us.

I'm sorry. Full title. No. It's on our head boon. It's never real. tickled my fancy. Have you played Marvel versus Capcom too?

I've got it on my switch, but I've not got around to play in it yet. Yo, dude, it's dope. See, whenever you get to the character select screen, fucking bass music. Okay, cool. Just boot it off and just listen to the music. You'll be sat there

pretending you're picking your character. You're really listening to the music. Just viving. I love it's huge. It's got so many characters so you will actually be there for a long time, which is great. Good to hear the music. So,

sweet. So speaking of Street Fighter, that's a movie that's coming out at some point. It's got a bunch of wrestlers in it. It does. It does. Everything I've seen from it makes it look like it's very bombastic and something,

it reeks of like it's going to come out and. it'll either be so bad it's good or just bad what's irritating me about what I've seen about it is that it appears to be an intentional kind of tongue and cheek like it's so bad it's good film that's the vibe I'm getting from it

because the original street fighter was a very sincere so bad it's good it didn't intend to be that bad it just was I mean we got Kylie Minogue to look at throughout the movie which is always pleasant.

I love that film because it is so bad that it's good. Oh, I thought you're saying. I just love Kylie Minogue. I'm like, hey, fair enough. I am indifferent to Kylie Minogue. How can you be indifferent to Kylie Minogue? Australia's finest export. Yeah, so they never play Cammy?

Exactly. That was the depth of the casting. Like, gosh, she's Australian. Yeah, John Claude Van Damme plays the All-American Gile. With his Belgian accent. Yeah. Hey, We're going to kick

Bison's ass. But it's also like a great watch. It's so much fun to watch because of how it like... It's bad. I saw it in a theater. It is bad, but it's wonderful. It's just, it's just the joy to watch.

It's one of those things that like the so bad it's good parts you remember so well. And like just now I was thinking and remembering other parts of the movie and I was like, there was a lot of really. boring parts too. Sure, but there are a lot of great parts. I really love that film. And I have a feeling that instead of like rebooting

the Street Fighter franchise to like kind of take a bit seriously, they kind of looked at that old one for inspiration and went, we'll just keep the same kind of tone. Which I don't think is a good idea because there's a real sincerity to the original film.

In a way it's like you have that film in the room. Tommy Wayzo. Like, that was like so sincere. He didn't know that he was a shitty filmmaker. He just wanted to make a really good film. And that was the best he could do. Yes.

So like, there's a sincerity to it where you're like, it's terrible, but it's also quite sweet. It's also like, he didn't do it on purpose. And you get that with the original Street Fighter film. They didn't make a shitty film on purpose. It just kind of happened like that. And I have an issue, with films that try to ape that style

because you will never get to that. You need to have a truly terrible director in charge for you to be able to get a film like that. You can't replicate it authentically. If you're trying to do so bad it's good tongue and cheek kind of thing it'll just come off

as a bad film and I'm a little worried that that is what might happen with the street fighter. I don't know. I'm getting similar vibes to the Masters of the Universe movie that came out. recently. Oh yeah.

What'd you think? I loved it. It was like it just ticked all of nostalgia boxes that I would have wanted it to tick. So it was good fun. It was funny as well, which is the thing that kind of surprised me is like how much sort of comedy they kind of crammed in there. But what's basically an action movie. But like there was.

a real sort of love to the source material which shone through so even though like elements of it were definitely tongue and cheek like references to that he-man meme from like 20 years ago

where he's singing that song and like references to the original masses of the universe movie and all sorts of stuff like it did it but not in a way that was like kind of making fun of it but just sort of

embracing like all of these aspects of He-Man that people have known and loved over the years and yeah that's what I kind of got the impression of with the street fight trailer that I saw

is it's definitely going to be sort of cheesy and yeah you know, maybe not good in a traditional sense, but there's a lot of love there towards the video games. Okay, real quick, John, what did you give Astros the Universe on Letterbox? I gave it five stars.

By down. He's a master of the universe. Anyway. Brian May did the score for it as well, and the score is amazing. Whoa, nice, man. For play. Was there any references to, Dolph Lundgren was in that one, wasn't he?

Didn't he show up in it as a little nod to the 80s Masters Universe movie? He does indeed. All right, we were talking about really bad movies that were like made earnestly. Have any of you guys ever heard of Scarlet Warning 666? No. All right. John, this is one I would like for you. to find in review.

It is a, it is famously a bad movie because it was made by this independent guy who wanted to make his own movie very much like Tommy Wiseau had these really big thoughts and plans and killed the movie by constantly fucking with it. Like every time that he would like show it,

he'd get negative feedback and then he'd spitefully cut it again. So it's like full of all these really bizarre cuts where at one point like he's doing voiceover work and he's being very aggressive to critiques to the movie. But it stars the filmmaker Palmer Rocky who also did the music and it's about twin brothers caught in a web of satanic rituals and demonic assassination. My favorite part is he plays both twin brothers and you honest to God cannot follow which twin brother it's supposed to be at any given time. What's it called?

It's called Scarlet Warning 666. Okay. It was made in the 1970s and then some, because again, he would not stop editing it. Like, he was constantly adding and removing parts to it. And I think after, like, his, I felt for him, because the guy's wife, definitely a saint of a human being. I think she was the one who finally put it out because he died and she's like

get it out there at least Yeah, get it out of my house Exactly Exactly so anyway So going back to that I feel like here's here's a couple of things Like a movie or two That I've not seen anyone fucking talk about

What's up with the more recent Mortal Kombat movies That I've been coming out? Because Carl Urban was just Johnny Cage And I didn't see a fucking word about any of those movies. No, me neither. No. So flew under the radar a little bit.

Is this what we're talking about with Mortal Kombat versus Street Fighter? A little bit, yeah, in that same regard. Mortal, like Street Fighter, they make all these big announcements. They cast all these, like, really bizarre choices. Like, I love David Dasmalchian, but, like, him is in Bison. Yeah, that's an odd choice. But then you get weirder choices. You get Cody Rhodes as Gile and Heroku Gote.

as e Honda and you get 40 roads with a giant America flag tattooed on his neck seems like a pretty good guile to me yeah compared to your own old van down definitely sure in comparison yes but like you also get like Orville Peck who's a queer

country music musician playing Vega a Spanish cage fighter you know I feel like that was because they both wear masks exactly that seems to be like the weird level of casting but then you have this like Mortal Kombat movies where you have like Carl Urban who's pretty respected

for all intents and purposes like he does a lot you know he's constantly getting work and they cast him as Johnny fucking cage Cody Rose isn't respected in Hollywood I mean I've seen his commercial work for that one like mobile game

and then like ice cream cones I've seen his work we've all seen Cody Rose's work I'm just gonna say I don't know if it compares to the one episode of Matlock that the American Dream Dusty Rhodes was on where he was like he was like had a little small white dog that was in a dog show

listen I love the American Dream I watched that episode I was like I have to see this shit he doesn't he doesn't fantastic character is he the bad guy in that I think he might have been the murderer yeah

I also think of Terry Funk in Roadhouse yes uh yeah yeah a lot of love for terry funk we love we love terry funk right here we yeah this is a pro funk podcast it's a pro strong feelings towards dory dory funk Jr. I like him just let's just say just all the funks all the funks and then cover all the faces yeah funk a podcast yeah very famously if he didn't want to wrestle he would just tell you know Vince McMahon that his horse was sick horse was sick yeah yeah Yeah.

If you know anything about horses? He's like, oh, man. Terry, poor Terry, all his horses are sick all the time. He figured that pretty quick. I would hope so. It's weird that every time we need Terry to do a job as horse gets sick. And is it the same horse? This horse suffering from leukemia.

Vince is like, I'll just buy you a horse. Oh, I don't know. You form a bond with a horse. You can't just replace me. one. You guys play Tacken? Yeah, I had a history with TECN way back when. I think it was Tacken because me and Alex are watching the World Rumble and Cody

Rhodes came out. And I was like, that's Cody Rhodes. He's going to be Gile and then the street fighter film. And she's like, that guy looks exactly like a guy from Tacken. Oh, she's talking about like Paul or Gunjack. He was like, he looks so much like a guy. from Tackett. Interesting.

I was crazy because I'm like, well, he's already Gile. Like, no, he's the fucking guy. And so he was just the guy from Tackett. I don't remember the guy. I wish he could remember it. Any other other fighting games you want to talk about? We're going to talk about eternal champions

or primal roar, killer instinct. I was going to say killer instinct. Yeah. Yeah, saying. Talk to you, killer instinct ripped. Hmm. Personal fighter. The skeleton with the fucking four arms.

The pirate skeleton? Yeah, he's my favorite. He was cool as hell. I mean, you can bring a dinosaur. I mean, you can bring a dinosaur. I mean with the CD as well, with the soundtrack on. Oh, shit. It was awesome.

Wow. Um, I remember Virtual Fighter to, when it came out, people were like, this is going to revolutionize fighting games with its 3D capabilities. So long, Street Fighter, you're going to be, because the Street Fighter stuck with 2D sprite work, um, and the Street Fighter 3, which was like 97, 98. Virgil Fighter came out and people were like, so long, Street Fighter this is true fucking graphics.

Take a look at Berger Fighter now. Berger Fighter 2. This was what was being heralded as like a Street Fighter like is going to destroy Street Fighter with its 2D BS Sprites and it's this horrible blocky ass fucking PS1

Triangle characters. Like this. And then if you look at Street Fighter 3 beautiful sprite work beautiful backgrounds just wonderful care and attention put into it

you thought this was better than that the fuck you're talking about man you guys remember soul caliber soul burns wow yeah the name makes it well soul caliber was fucking cool as how man yeah soul caliber was fun

they were like one of the first games that had like really bizarre guest characters too because like yeah I remember like it was like Spawn and like Yoda The Bristle Calibre 2 They released it on the GameCube The PlayStation 2 and the Xbox But each

Version got a Got a difference Secret character So the Xbox one was Spawn I don't remember who the PS2 one was And the GameCube one was Link Legend Zelda And you're like

This actually works really well He's got a big sword And like a boomerang and bombs and shit It worked perfectly and he fights a Gimp good old Voldo weird Gimp Oh do you guys ever play Guilty Gear?

I was actually going to mention Guilty Gear We were talking about like heart Like video games that are actually really fucking hard to play Guilty Gear felt impossible to try to play I had it on the fucking Wii Yeah me too Yeah All the characters were named after musicians and bands and stuff

Yes a lot of them were Yeah I like Zappa he was one that was possessed who was the one with a bag on his head Faust he's my favorite I liked him that's a fucking crazy game

yeah yeah yeah because they have those insta kills that were like real intense bizarre it's strange strange game I actually recently saw

like someone clipped like a character's special move from dark stalkers where if you're playing like the vampire character if he like grabs the other opponent by the neck and if it's a guy he turns the guy into a girl and then feeds off of them and like that's how he like ends the fight

he drains their blood but it's like it's very specific to hey this Dracula's not gay he's gonna turn you to a girl first and then he's gonna drink your blood Dracula never sucked a dude never once sucked a dude you gotta get a lady Dracula

for that that's what Keanu Reeves learned in Bram Stoker's Dracula. That's in the book. If you actually look at like chapter four, it's like, oh, by the way, Dracula never sucked a dude.

Like, oh, wow, that's, he's missing on. You know. Took a turn on this, but I guess,

didn't we? We think it's several turns, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, you know, we started talking about comics. Well,

we started, well, we started off talking about how Thomas James' penis is called the Punisher, and then we started talking about, yes, about comics.

now we're talking about Dracula sucking dudes so it's all kind of cool circle full circle yeah these relaxed fit episodes are always so interesting because you never really know we're going to go sometimes we have a topic in mind and then you never know where it's going to go except for we're probably

going to talk about penises we like what we like I was going to say happy pride but that was a couple days ago so no longer pride now it's shameful so. Yeah, but we're back to being shameful again.

Of it, I'm already, I think it's here in for that kind of stuff a lot. It's very Catholic, Catholic. Well, what can you do? I was going to say something, but I'm not going to. So, I don't know. I feel like we might be at a point where we can go ahead and wrap her up. What do you think? Probably.

Speaking of, speaking of penises and safe sex, let's wrap it up. Yeah, you know, let's be responsible. John, what was the last movie that you watched? The last movie I watched was, Now You See Me, Now You Don't. Okay. There have been a couple of those movies. Is it really just about,

is it just like a heist movie with magicians? Basically, yeah. That, I won't lie. I don't know how you can make multiple movies off of that. Well, yeah, they did, I've watched all three movies today. So, they started kind of,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they started melding into one. Yeah, I can imagine. Bland movie. But, I mean, it's a weird one, because it's, there's sort of fun chemistry between the cast,

the plot is basically non-existent in all of them, and there's just, like, they're just trying to dazzle you with the visual illusion. rather than, you know, tell a coherent story. So I wouldn't necessarily recommend them. I watched the first one, and I thought it was fine, but then they made more.

I'm like, I don't know. This feels unnecessary. Like, Corey, I'm like, I don't know if they're going to be able to pull this off. And then I read like the synopsis of the second one. I'm like, boy, they were not able to pull it off. So I used to work in a retail bank, and I will tell you nothing will break your immersion in heist movies than reality. Because like you said, I've handled thousands and thousands of dollars.

And, um, yeah. I remember like one of the oceans movies were like, oh, yeah, we're going to be taking like hundreds of like hundreds of millions of dollars from Al Pacino's casino or whatever. And they have like each person just carrying two duffel bags. Like that's not enough. That's not enough duffel bags. It's like we would get a shipment of like, this big huge bag of money. to fill up the ATM

and the ATM holds four cassettes, each cassette capable of holding $20,000. So like $80,000 in cash weighed a lot of, wait a lot and was not easy to carry around.

Yeah. So, you know, hey, there's your helpful information out there if you didn't know. Most ATM cassettes could carry about $80,000. Use with that information what you will. that is good news yeah stop pumping eye

so you can carry it them yeah exactly do you guys see this happened a couple years ago but there was this big case in Ireland where somebody just like drove a digger up to so like

there's like you know ATMs in like battle stations and shit somebody just drove a digger up to the side of a station with like the big scoop arm and just dog into the fucking wall

You know what? You could be effective. You can be quick and you could be clean, but you can't be all three. Simple. Hooked it off and just fucked off with a digger. And I'm like, hey, ma'am. Effective, certainly. Quick?

A heck of a trio there, my friend. Clean and clean. So simple. So real quick, John, I know that real quick, John, I know that really, time, it's only been about a couple days since we last recorded. But what does that do to your movie count? So I was on 7, no, 670 the other day. Today I'm on 6.7.4. Okay. You watch three films today. Exactly. What was the other one? What was the other outlier? The one I watched last night was Borat, the first Borat movie.

Fair. Why not? Why not? So, yeah. So, John, for folks who want to get a review of the Now You See Me trilogy, where can they go to read your thoughts? They can find me on Letterbox at Big John Bowsky, all one word. And Dylan, what have you been up to this week? I mean, Jack, I've been sucking each other things. But other than that, hold on. Did you say you and Jack Lemon? Because he's dead, my friend. I thought you said Jack Lemon and I went, one, where did that come from? And two, that man is dead. First of all, how does it stop me yet?

Second of all, Dracula also dead. We haven't, well, yes. And third of all, we haven't talked about Jack Lemon at all in this show, but we definitely talked with Dracula. I'm like we should start talking about Jack Lemon Morris, what this has come out to. Well, maybe next. Next episode. Yeah, we ran out of the time this. John will have watched all the grumpy old men movies at that point.

They're all classics. On Monday nights, I do a radio show on Boundt Digital Radio. The code to the UK link is in the description. 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock every Monday night. Play loads of cool music. I talk, a lot of shit sometimes. I sometimes stream on Twitch at Spooky LaRue where I draw pictures and they animate those pictures

and put them up on YouTube and Spotify. YouTube on Spotify. YouTube at Team Cruik. Crows and I on TikTok at Team Crow Studios. So if you could like all those funny videos, you put a new one up this week, I think it was last week. So if you guys watch those and give us loads of money,

that would be really sweet. There you go. As for me, I have the other show on the channel, which is new number ones, where I go to the comic book store on comic book day or shortly thereafter and grab a new number one from usually a,

not usually all the time a non-big-2 publisher and sometimes the creators of that comic find my review and leave a comment about it which was surprising so that's all the channel good comments or by comments

you can read the comment for yourself and let me know what you think I felt they were very professional I was not very kind to the video though I was saying I was like I feel like this the dialogue was a little 90s it was very very Roershock, jurdily.

I feel like we wasted too much time and showing and not telling. They could have like sum this up in six pages and move the story along further. I think I might have also said, I don't know if English is their first language and that could have been an issue. You think you talked with that one, didn't me? Yeah.

Yeah. They're the ones who found, they're the ones who left the comment. And they were like, you're correct. They're identical twin brothers, yeah. Great artists, though, I have to say. like their art was fantastic. It just wasn't impressed with the storytelling. If it was just like a series of like blank panels with no dialogue, it would have been amazing.

Yeah. Honestly. Yeah. I don't think it would have been that bad. You guys listen to this show, which I assume you are because you're clearly fond of our work. Get on board. Yeah, get on board. Jump on.

Yeah, think about that. Talk to the fine folks at AMP Comics and see if you can turn this ship around. We're helping. We are. Aside from that, I also have my other show, Largell Cup, which is a spoken word, sort of art podcast thing where it's evolving. And I have a third thing that's coming down the pipeline, which I'll talk about more when it gets closer. But I think it's going to do us all for it today, unless there's anybody else we want to try to piss off. We could probably piss somebody else off real quick, could we?

I wanted to piss off Jack Lemon, but I just found out he's dead. I didn't even know he was sick. You fit on Jack Lemmon's corpse. There you go. I already used to host a lot of parties. They used to call them lemon parties. I mean, you should probably put that in Google and see what comes up. You should Google out.

Everybody should Google a lot of parties. It's really popular. Good old ancient internet. You'll be really surprised to what comes up, I would say. And you might learn some things about yourself in the process. Happy pride, everybody. What a way to end the show. Bye, everybody.

Bye. Bye-bye. That's a past episode we've done in years.