The Smark Avengers - Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron Man & More: Marvel Hero Tournament Lineup Revealed

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Who would win in the ultimate battle between Marvel and DC Comics? In this episode, Corey, Dylan, and Jon start building the Marvel heroes roster for our massive DC vs Marvel Tournament! We break down which characters made the cut — from legends like Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain America to wildcards like Black Bolt, Domino, and X-Man. Who belongs in the top 16? Who got snubbed? And which Marvel heroes could actually take down DC’s best? If you’re a fan of Marvel Comics, Avengers, X-Men, or crossover battles, this episode is packed with fun debates, deep comic book knowledge, and plenty of laughs as we set the stage for the ultimate showdown. 🔥 What you’ll hear in this episode: Drafting Marvel’s 16 tournament heroes Big names vs underrated picks Why Spider-Man, Hulk, and Iron Man are locks The case for wildcards like Black Bolt & Domino Predictions for DC vs Marvel matchups 👉 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and drop your Marvel roster in the comments — who would YOU pick for the tournament? Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's project "Henry's Usual": https://www.tumblr.com/henrysusual Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f

What if him and Sabretooth just went off somewhere nice together? I had a lovely time. A picnic? What do you think they'd talk about? Yeah, that'd be a good ending. What do you mean? Sabretooth, you know, he's sweeter than people think he is. Everybody says he's a big, scary old monster, but inside he's got a heart.

Lots of hearts, actually, because he eats people. He certainly does. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Smart Avengers. My name's Corey. And with me's Dylan and John. How's it going, guys? Hi.

Yo. So today's episode, we are going to craft, well, I'll tell you the origin of the episode. Basically, Scott Snyder is a writer for DC Comics, and right now he seemingly is doing like storylines for 13-year-old boys in the sense that all of his ideas are very much like absolute Batman. Like, what if Batman was seven foot tall and built like a shit brick house, a shit brick house and fought a 12-foot-tall bane who was also super. massive as well. And his bat symbol is a battle axe and he's like crazier than normal and he doesn't

have any money. Wouldn't that be a great idea? One of his other storylines that he's doing is he's doing an event called DCCO where for reasons that have yet to be revealed that I'm aware of, all of the heroes and I think maybe some villains in the DC, yeah, it's definitely some villains in the DC world are pitted against one another in basically a fighting tournament with a winner being crowned at the very end and I saw this bracket that they revealed

of who was going to be fighting who in this comic and I took it to you guys and said hey we can do an episode where we just pick the bracket like who do we think is going to win DCCO and then like somehow some way that turned into us creating our own bracket I don't know how that happened because one seems sufficiently easier

than the other no no no we're not right than anybody else's coattails here man we're making our own bracket that guy made his own mug bracket for mugs we're different man we do things a smart avengers way aka the complicated way yeah making it harder for us i think we can agree it's probably complicated yes needlessly complicated you could say so yes we are creating our own bracket our own tournament but we're not just going to do dc we're going to do dc and marvel so um for you guys if you're not familiar traditionally when Americans think of brackets, they think of the NCAA winter spring basketball

tournament, the March Madness tournament, where 64 teams go against one another, and it's broken up into four major quadrants with ultimately two winners of sides facing each other in the finals. So that's what we're going to do. We're going to have ultimately 64 people. We're going to have a Marvel side and a DC side. and we don't know how many episodes this will be. This could be five episodes long, depending on how things go. I don't know.

I'll say closer to 10. Closer to 10? Oh, Jesus. All right, well, without further ado, we should probably go ahead and potentially get started. So today we're going to be determining our 16 Marvel heroes, because the way we're going to break up our quadrants and we're going to have Marvel heroes and Marvel villains on one side, DC Heroes, and DC villains on the other.

That way in our finals, we get our winner from the Marvel side versus our winner from the DC side. And the beauty of us being a three-person team is that we shouldn't have ties. So when it comes time to actually picking who should win, we will have, you know, majority rule on vote. So that'll be that. Any questions before we get started?

Did I make a prediction as to who I think is going to win the... The Marvel versus DC side? The villain's side Yeah I mean we haven't even picked the villains yet I have a feeling That I know he's gonna win Sugar Man

Baby John Matt Can I What if I write my prediction down So if it happens I can like reveal it and go This is what I think There you go Yeah yeah write it down

Seal it in an envelope No I'm gonna write it down And I'll tell you why I'm gonna write it down I'll show you exactly what page I'm gonna write it down on I'm gonna write it down in this innocent looking page right here that whenever I show you what

answer it have to look at this page so for our audio listeners it also means it also means you're not going to be able to see this page again until I reveal the winner so take a good look

that's the real shame on that one so for our audio listeners the picture the page in question has the infamous drawing of Sugarman and Modoc embracing one another romantically

not a whole lot of romance going on in that they can't They can't face each other in the bracket, because if so, I mean, there's no winner. You want to start? I will start. I think the easiest one to start with on the Marvel side is probably Iron Man. Iron Man kickstart of the MCU and kind of became one of the more iconic characters since 2008 for that reason. Okay.

Do you feel like Iron Man has a spot in one of the 16? Yes. I think no, he does. I agree that he did kickstart the whole Marvel Cinematic. universe thing even though he wasn't the first Marvel film but like he's still been a pivotal member of the Avengers and he had

you know his own comic he had his own TV show we all remember very fondly um yeah iron on's a good a good pick it just seemed that you went straight for ironine because I already I knew who I was going to say and I'm like oh Corey's going to pick this guy that's why I didn't

because I had a feeling I knew who you were going to say so we were like second pick Pretty obvious, I was going to say Gambit, but, you know. I was not who I was thinking. Forget to me in a second. What? Why not? John, do you have any hard feelings on Iron Man being one of the 16 names?

I mean, at the moment, no. I don't see any issues with it, but, like, I don't know. It depends on who else we pick and who needs to be left on the, The chop him to block, I guess. Okay. All right. I mean, if we had shooters between Gambit and Iron Man, it's an easy call. Yeah.

It's an easy call. Easy. So. All right. You don't know he's going to win that. So, Dylan, you're rating these down. So your second pick, right? Yes.

Yes. Okay, go for it. I think we already know who it is. Obviously, Spider-Man, right? Yeah. I'll be Spider-Man. Like, we could, we would even, I don't think we have to debate it. Because everybody is like, we had Spider-Man.

right spider on just fucking he's where everybody knows the most one of the most popular if not the most popular marvel character he's abbey war uh he's in every single marvel branded anything do you know what you mean there's three different four different film versions of spider man five different versions of spider mom he's very popular uh we've he's he's been a japanese yeah which we've seen met a couple episodes yeah uh yeah uh It's got to be Spider-Man, right? Yeah, I mean, that was the reason why. I didn't want to take Spider-Man away from you

because I knew that he's your boy, so that's why I went with Iron Man first. Yeah, I mean, John, what do you think with Spider-Man? I think he is the most obvious choice that we could put in, and sometimes obvious is good. Right. I think that we're going to get a lot of obvious ones out of the way really quickly, and then...

After a while, there's going to be a lot of, like, there's going to be some real wild cards in there, which I'm looking forward to. So let's get the obvious ones out of the way first. So we'll get into the debates of the wild cards. All right. So, John, that is you next. Oaky-doke, so I will suggest Wolverine.

Yep. Like the ubiquitous X-Men Avenger. He's been in everything. And, yeah, obviously, pretty. Andy with his claws as well. See what I did there. Yeah, so Wolverine. But also if you're bracketing it, like having to, you know,

you're talking about people here, like the best fighters or whatever. Obviously we're doing a tournament to fight people against people. Wolverine's a top class fighter, like world class. Like he's one of the best physical fighters you have, like hand-to-hand, auto-claw combat guys. So if you're thinking about it from a purely bracket versus bracket, like fight scenario. Wolverine's a classic choice.

Yeah, I don't think you can go wrong with selecting him. I mean, honestly, I feel like Wolverine would have been top two if I hadn't gone first. Yeah, honestly, yeah, I believe it would have been Spider-Man that we'll... Yeah, absolutely. That is the proper order. But again, I didn't want to steal anyone's thunder. You mentioned, like, when we get into the debate portion, there are some characters who have switched alignments that I think will be interesting to decide, like, what bracket are they going to fall in?

So that's interesting Yeah so I guess do you look I mean it's my turn do you want to go ahead and approach that subject You're really pushing for saber tooth here aren't you No yeah I'm not pushing for saber tooth I don't want to steal a pick from John But I wasn't sure if John was going to approach it this way Magneto

We had a whole episode about how hard it is to kill him He's been a hero for what 10 15 years now He's been a hero previously He's been a villain for a long time as well so do you put Magneto in the hero camp or the villain camp? He's kind of a spoiler in that sense. That's interesting. Because for me, like just naturally, as I think of Magneto,

I always think of him as a villain. I think he's a classic quintessential, beautiful villain, perfect foil for the X-Men. It all works really, really well. He can be a guy who, like, she has a gray or whatever, but for me, I've always thought of him as a proper good villain. And that's not a bad thing. Like, you want a big, strong, really,

impactful, important villain. That's why we all love Magneto, because he's fucking great at being a villain. Now, obviously, because they've turned him and they made him good and stuff, people can like him even more. And I'm like, oh, great, he's a good guy now. We like him now.

But for me, I would put Magneto in the villain camp. John? I think I kind of agree as well, just because I think he spent more years as a villain than he has as a good guy. that's got a count for some 30 I mean if we're rounding up 30 years that I know of

60s 70s part the way through the 80s he joined new mutants and then villain again throughout the 90s and then I think he recently it was like in the 2010s when he became good so yeah no I don't disagree with that

I would also like oh go ahead I would like to put something forward as well if you think about like what McNeito did as a villain like he's got so many, like, great, like, moments of him being a villain. But as a hero, like, what's a big, like, it's a big, Magneto. I mean, we've already had this debate. We don't need to go into it again.

Yeah, yeah. We've done the episodes about this. Yeah, I was not to say, I mean, we've done three episodes about Magneto, right? No, two, just two. We'll get to a third one. We'll get to a third one. All right, well, if that's the case, then my I pick would be Captain America. Captain America

The longest running member of the Avengers led the team multiple times Solo book You know big runs in the solo series What four movies With three movies with Chris Evans There were solo movies And then the others

He filled in as ensemble And I mean You know I don't want to get into Politics or debate or anything like that but the movie where he, the Captain America movie where he was in Captain America, or Steve Rogers was in Captain America,

it didn't do as well. Right. I think if you're thinking about like Marvel heavy hitters, you know, not just most recognizable, but like the guys that you would reliably go to in a Marvel comic, if you lived in a real Marvel universe, and there was a big crisis,

and you called Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine and Captain America. All four of those make sense. You're good. Right? Yeah. Those are like the top rungs of guys you're going to call. Captain America is up there.

I think Captain America is a fair, a fair shot. Oh yeah. And one of the best fighters in the Marvel universe as well. So, and just to be specific, be specific, we are talking about Steve Rogers. Just like we're talking about Peter Parker, just like we're talking about Logan and just like we're talking,

well, I mean, except for that period, where James Rhodes was Iron Man. It's pretty much been Tony Stark the whole time. What? Yeah, right. Tony Stark was Iron Man? Well, yeah, no, it wasn't just his bodyguard.

What? I remember, I don't give it. I think that was my favorite thing about the first movies when they were like going to go and like, oh yeah, just say that Iron Man's your bodyguard. Anyway, yes. That would, so Dylan, it would be your turn next. So we're going to put Steve Rogers in the

tournament. Okay. I want to think again, I'm going to think like super obvious. I, um, we're talking about heavy hitters. We're talking about big impactful guys in the Marvel universe. I feel like nobody hits as heavy as the Hulk, right? If you're in a fight, maybe not the most reliable guy because he's a bit random, but if you're talking about a bracket like this where he doesn't have to work in a team, Hulk is like he's got to be on that list, right? he'll just beat the shit out of people if you write up a list of all the other people you know you look at like iron man

oh he's he's got weaknesses bulweree inspired man they have weaknesses the Hulk is just going to beat the fuck out of people really you know he doesn't have a game plan his game plan is he's got a big fist he's going to hit you with it and it's going to really fucking hurt this is raw motion

yeah it's just like punch like it doesn't have to be complicated some days it's just punch you know it's just punch I have no issues with Bruce Banner being on the board yep same

although it does but it does remind me how much I really don't care for what the MCU is done with Hulk because I think a lot of that has to do with I don't know I don't know if Mark Ruffalo

the reason why Hulk never had a solo movie after Edward Norton is that they didn't think the Ruffalo could carry one by himself I don't think that's out of the question I like Mark Ruffalo but I don't know know if you're seeing an action movie. I don't think you're seeing an action movie with him as the lead. Well, I think you could do it because a lot of it's going to be CGI anyway.

I think it's the problem, though. I don't know. There's just something about it. Like, Edward Norton, it worked. And I don't know how much of that was just because it's Edward Norton. I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. I like Ruffalo.

I loved him in other things. For some reason, I've just never cared for him as Hulk. I mean, like, for the record, I've never, like, been in love with the Hulk as a character. You know, I'd never. He's your second pick. him I actually like him. Right, but I'm saying if you're going like by, if we're talking about pure violence,

the strength or whatever, like in a turn, obviously you'd be stupid to not pick him. But I'm just, like, the fact that I'm thinking him, despite never being like a huge fan of the Hulk, shows what kind of a character he is on a bracket like this, you know? There you go.

We all, why the Hulk is there. John, do you disagree with Bruce Banner? Not in the slightest. Okay. So you're all pretty awesome so far. So I was thinking next up could be Thor, God of Thunder. Been around for a long time.

We obviously had a few scrap over the years. And yeah, he's got a big mallet with, which they hit people with as well. Yep. but simple okay I think I agree with that like Thor again one of those recognizable guys

big heavy hitter strong guy if you're picking a team he's a good guy to have on the team he's a good fighter reliable yeah I think Thor is a good pick okay same no no disagreements on that

so next picks our halfway point this is going pretty quick that's why we're gonna when we get through our initial past, we need to start looking at like, all right, are we missing anybody that we feel like could be obvious?

I feel like we have not included any women into the list yet. My next pick, I'm going to change for that reason. I'm going to go with Scarlet Witch. We get magic. We get another mutant on the board. She's insanely powerful, and that's what makes her kind of unstable.

And I think that that's kind of what makes her a little more dangerous than your other run-of-the-mill heroes. Okay. That's interesting. It's an interesting pick, you know? I'll be gone past the clearly obvious ones. I don't know if we have. I feel like there's a couple other ones,

but like I was kind of just thinking, like, I think that we do need to, I want to make sure that we do have some female characters on the list because I know there's going to be female characters, like on the DC side as well. and just out of the sake of fairness and equality, I suppose. But also, you also can't ignore the fact that she's altered,

she alters reality. Yes. I mean, I would have said that there's definitely going to be some picks later on. Yeah. We'll argue about that would be women. Yeah. But Scar de Witch is a good call because, like you said, she is very, very powerful.

She fucking got rid of half the, well, 90% of the mutants in the world instantly. There's a lot going on there. That's pretty powerful stuff. So, I would, yeah, I have no problem with Scarlet Witch. Mm-hmm.

Maybe not like a fighter in the traditional sense, but then her power set and everything makes her pretty formidable. Like, this isn't going to be just coming down to who can punch the hardest, whatever.

it's yeah it's gonna be like more cerebral stuff going on there so yeah I'm yeah I'm totally happy with scarlet witch being involved okay very tricky and like that it's like a whole different layer to who she goes up against if she does go up against like a pure brawler or something she's gonna have the advantage because she doesn't use her fists use her you can just do everything else that's not fighting with her fists yeah I mean do you think she can stand do you think she could go against the Hulk is really the question I mean if her whole deals but manipulating you psychological logically with magic and altering reality, she might be the loophole in the Hulk plan. Right.

If you think about that, the Hulk's basic strength is just being able to punch stuff. So if she just like manipulates reality around him where he gets confused and can't punch anything, he does not have anything to do. Yeah. But we'll cross-app. Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get to it. All right.

So Dylan, eighth pick. Okay. So I don't know. How are you guys going to feel about this one? But I'm going to pick Deadpool because he's cool. He's got swords and guns. Double whammy. He's got a healing factor.

He's also an incredibly good fighter. He has that kind of unpredictability to him where it's hard to be able to fight him. Like even Taskmaster can't really fight him properly because he doesn't know how he's going to move. this Deadpool moves in his own he just there's no you can't predict them it's unpredictable literally

and so I think as a wild card as a guy that you don't know how to be able to properly stop Deadpool he has a habit of winning despite insurmountable odds just because he is Deadpool so I think he would be a good pick

I don't necessarily disagree plus again good fighter and you know Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree. It's going to be hard to kill. Yeah, absolutely. So I think maybe what we do... I think what we do is maybe we push the list to 20,

and then we fight for those 16 spots, because I feel like we can definitely keep going. So, John, you're next. I have a couple of wild cards in the back of my mind that I want to be shit-eyed, but let's go. I'm going to go for Storm. Because obviously, she is... She's a pretty powerful mutant in her own right.

But even when she's lost her powers, she's proven to be a really good fighter as well. So, yeah, I think she ticks a lot of the boxes. Storm would have been my next pick. So I am 100% aboard. She was on the list for me too. I think, again, it's no secret. It's no secret how much all of us love Storm.

This has been well documented, like four different episodes. We've had a lot of episodes where we've either fought over Storm or we ranked her really high. Who doesn't love Storm? Leave a comment on YouTube if you don't like Storm so we can block you. Storm is amazing. And I think whenever you were like, well, put Scar to Witch in because it's good. Like, as soon as you said that I'm like, I'm going to work for Storm at some point. So a woman's definitely going to be on the show.

But I think Storm's a great chart. Again, like, when you think about the X-Men, like, again, really recognize, but really strong, really iconic. Really, like, properly, there's 17 million X-Men, and she's one of, like, the most iconic ones. She's definitely top five. If you had to rake every X-Men that ever existed, she's top five easily. Right up there. Yeah, exactly. So I think Storm's a great shot.

I'm happy with him off the Storm. Absolutely. All right. Next one for the sake of a little bit of chaos is a character that a lot of people don't think about because it's been years and years and years before they did anything really prominent with them. But a character with very well-documented strengths and power, Black Bolt. Ooh. Okay. So for those listening, we've never talked about Black Bolt because we never talked about the inhumans.

And that's a reason why, because Marvel doesn't give shit about the inhumans ever since they failed as a TV show. but Blackbolt of course has enhanced durability enhanced strength and also the sound of his voice can level mountains and that's just with a whisper you know so Blackbolt's a nuclear option for sure I feel like we can do better than Black Bolt that's an interesting point yeah like Blackboard can we put Black Bolt in like the maybe pile I mean Black Bolt's on the list and that's why we're going we're we're we'll have to whittle the list down okay so you're so you're happy so he's a guy that could be taken off at some point if we could yeah i think that's one of those things that like depending on the list that we get afterwards if we start whittling him down i think that blackbolt stands

to be removed i think from his sure power level though he's very strong that makes him tough i think it right he is but again how can you can you talk us into liking black bolt on that list other than saying he's really strong. I mean, it's not so much the strength so much, it's just it's the voice aspect of it. I mean, like I said, I mean, he's, you know, led the inhumans as their king for, you know, since his inception, I think really the fact that the humans being as reclusive as they are and have always been is why they, you know, when they created Black Bolt, they made him so powerful because they're like, oh, we won't use him very often.

Because if we did, I feel like you would run a chance of, like, a lot of these problems would either be made better or worse by Black Bolt's inclusion. Because again, if he says a word, he's going to blow some shit up. I mean, if you get him into a fight, you know, I think because like, and I think unfortunately because he is so powerful, they've had to like use him as the example whenever they wanted to show something like, oh, this is a big threat. Here's how this character is going to get around or, you know, Black Bolt's voice or this is how they're going to, you know, show how tough they are bywithstanding Black Bolt's voice.

and it just, I don't know, it always felt a little weird to me and it's like, we're just going to weaken him for the sake of trying to show that someone's tougher. Yeah. I mean, like, BlackBolt, if you ever saw multiverse of madness, Scarlet Witch takes care of him pretty easily. She also, but she also did the same thing to every other character on that, on the Illuminati, though. Fantastic. Yeah, Xavier.

So we're not going to put none of the Illuminati's going to. on the list. None of the Illuminati are on the list. Yet. None of the Illumaddi are going to be on the list. Namor, Tachala, nothing.

Honestly, I don't think any of those would have been... Wait, Tony Stark was on the Illamani, wasn't he? He wasn't in the movie. Yeah, but not in the movie. Not in the movie, but in the comics. But we're talking about the movie?

Okay, so we were you talking about the movie versions? Or the comic book versions? Well, I can... We're talking pretty general. I'm just saying because Tony wasn't in the film, we can't say whether or not Scarlet Witch would have beat the shit out of him. I suspect she would have. Yeah. I mean, she did handle everyone else prehandedly.

A smug rich asshole in a suit of armor probably wasn't going to stay on a much better chance. But if anything, doesn't that just reinforce Scarlet Witch's inclusion in the list then? So I suppose that if anything, we've done that. Yes. And we've significantly diminished black bolts. But, so if that's the case. We're on the list for not.

All right. So black bolt's on the list for now, but definitely there's room for debate if we get over 14 names and there's others that we like more. Or 16 names and there's that we like more. I got to say as wild cards go, I did not see Black Bolt going on the list. So I just say commendable. Thank you.

Might have been a content play is what that was. That might have been a content play. Hey, man. I got some of those coming up too. So part of this is listen to us arguing. So, you know, you won't. All right. Zedellin, you're up next.

All right. I don't know if this one is going to be controversial. But again, if you're talking about like pure like par level and what they're able to do, like unchecked and unrivaled, I would say, um, Nate Gray. Oh. You know, the act. man if you think he's he's supposedly like like a perfect version of cable you know on unattached to the to the virus the techno organic virus is full he is what cable could be if he

wasn't like tied down with that virus he doesn't even need guns he can like warp reality and just change things in a whim he can manipulate minds he's like telepathic and telekinetic He has like immense psychic powers. Like he, he, he can go to the astral plane. On a different level, he is an incredibly powerful character. Again, not using fists and kicks and stuff like that. But from a pure like, just vastly powerful level, Nate Gray is like up there.

He's got to be one of the most powerful people, certainly in the X-Men world. Although they keep changing what an Omega level Mutant is. He can manipulate ice. Like, blah, blah, blah. You know. Nate Gray can do

like fucking anything he wants to, you know? Obviously not. That's hyperbole. But you know what I mean? Like, he's, he's incredibly powerful.

Um, and I think he's a character that, like, you don't see that often anymore because once you write in a character that's so incredibly powerful, it's hard to do stuff with them. Because the answer is either,

Nick Ray stops him or you know Nick with the problem how do you stop him? You know there's those in the two he fucked off he was he was busy doing something that day

yeah yeah why was Nick Ray there oh he was doing his taxes right speaking of the kids from soccer practice what I I

he didn't take his dog to the bat the dog are real sick he could have fixed it sure but he liked to give the vet something to do you know keep my business he went to school He went to school, you know.

A guy worked hard for that degree. Big guy. Exactly. You don't want to just solve all these problems. He wouldn't learn anything that way, you know? So I'm going to say Nick Gray. I like Nate Gray. What's going to worry me is...

The silence is rude. No, no, no. What worries me a little bit is we're going to get to a point where it's like, okay, cool, but like, at what point does someone become so powerful that why even have the tournament? you know, because, like, you could put Phoenix on there. Phoenix destroyed an entire, like, solar system or whatever. They're like, all right, school.

It's the Phoenix versus, you know, Black Bolt. Spider-Man, you know? It's like, yeah, like, damn. You know, at what point do we need a cap on, like, ability? I mean, Nate Gray and Spider-Man did fight. How'd that go? Don't worry about that. So yeah.

Let's say even. So should there be like a rule on cosmic beings? Because like you put like Galactus on the list, you know? Well, yes. I mean, the thing is I wasn't going to be start picking people like that. Because I think like that's that's cheating. Because I mean, immediately I thought was like, I mean, I guess Phoenix, you know, she's alpha or Omega, whatever. I, like I was not.

I would have picked Gene Gray. Not that I am going to, but I'm saying I would have picked Gene Gray, but not the phoenix because the phoenix is a different entity but gene gray makes sense um also you could argue i don't know if the phoenix was a hero killed a lot of people i know she's doing pretty well with her right now on her solo book from i understand well she's trying to make she's trying to redeem herself you know uh magnito also probably kill a lot of people so you know gray area um but we got turned into a baby i mean if you want to if you want to

um like if you want to establish that rule where we kind of like set some kind of like power limit and like disqualified Nick Gray I don't mind that because I understand where you're coming from

like not there has to be at some point limit but then again if you have scar to witch on it like we've just said the thing about Scarlet Witch is she can just fucking obliminate everybody and Scarter witch versus Nick Gray would be a good be a good matchup I guess the thing

is like what like how like how detrimental is their weakness to them like scarlet witch notoriously very mentally just like unstable at times like that's that's something that could be used against her potentially well i think part of the humor has some sort of does nick gray have some sort of you know like weakness that could be exploited it's in like give someone like spider man an opportunity to beat him yes because i think it's well from what i've read of nick gray and i have haven't read a lot of the recent stuff but part of the thing that him and spider-man had was that he was quite young and immature and had this view on the world that was a very kind of singular and kind of not basic but you know he was like I'm doing good stuff and you're like well you're

not thinking about the bigger picture you're being very close-minded about the things you're doing you might have good intentions with it but you're not thinking of the bigger picture so Spider-Man, who has a lot of experience with being a bum and living life and hardships and stuff, was able to use his own experience in just having lived a different life than Nick Gray has. Because, you know, he's very young and arrogant and not selfish, but, you know, he has a lot of problems that come with not having enough worldly experience that can be taken advantage of, where a Spider-Man, he said the shit kicked out of him so many times that he has the advantage of knowing what it's like to be, you know,

on the bottom of everybody's shoe. Nick Gray doesn't have that. He's used to being at the top of the echelah. So, for example, if he was to go against Scarlet Witch, he's never fought somebody like that before. It's a totally different ball game, you know? I know, John, were your thoughts on X-Men? I think...

I share some of your concerns that he may be too powerful for this but you know I guess we'll see right okay John let me put it to you this way who would you rather see in the list X-man or black bolt I mean a mortal man either on the list a mortal man hasn't been out of the list yet so I mean you know guy who can't die 3D man hasn't been out of the list yet triathlon yeah Everyone's favorite option final spin. I'm going to write that. I'm going to write that. He's on the list.

Like he said, we're going to go. We'll, we'll whittle the list down to 16. Yeah. So, John, is your training. Well, after just saying about how I'm not sure if we should be putting all these super powerful people on the list, I am going to go for the Carol Danvers version of Captain Marvel. Okay.

Okay. Interesting. It's pretty powerful. She can fly. She can go in space. She can hit people really hard. She can shoot bolts of energy and stuff. I think there's anything wrong with that. She's got a lot going on. Yeah. I don't think she's near that

kind of weird Nate Grayish territory. It's a different kind of paris set. Yeah. Yeah. You know what you mean? Hers is, it's more direct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, more scrappy. But I like the idea of that, like, the tournament shouldn't just be all, like, hand-to-hand fighters. You know, I like the idea that there's a variety. Like Street Fighter. If they were all Ra'u, that would suck. It's not. You have, like, you have Zangiv,

they control differently, and Bison. They're all different characters that have different... Kidmasters. Yeah, you don't have Cody Road. Oh, Dan. I think... Blackbold is our Dan, right? He's like, I don't know.

Yeah, he's our Dan Vicky. All right. Yeah, absolutely. The variety is the spice of life. Yeah, I think Captain Marvel is a... I'm okay with that. I'm surprised she was on the listener. But, I mean, she's number 12, so that's not terrible.

Yeah. My next pick In that sort of same realm of He has shown experience with hand-to-hand combat But mostly known For mastering the mystic arts I'm going to go with Dr. Strange Okay

Again, very different power set than everyone else A lot of experience dealing with interdimensional Beings and threats So he's coming with a whole other series of experiences That nobody else will have had I think it makes sense again dr street he attacks things like a different point of view you know it's not just like hand-to-hand combat but it's not even just like warped in reality or whatever it's like this magic side of it

is only different a lot of people might not be able to react to or have experience with like there's a handful of guys on here that would have experienced with magic dealers other people wouldn't have you know iron man used to fight the mandarin he gets that yeah Spider-Man and Dr. Strange work together. But, like, you know, is Deadpool know a lot about magic? I don't know.

You know? Stuff like that. That's an interesting, interesting pick. But, again, I feel like in terms of, especially if you're going, like, Marvel, the cinematic

universe, Dr. Strange is a big, big hitter. You know? You thought so? Yeah. Yeah, the fact that he brings, like, a different

power set is pretty good. So, let's go with it. All right, Dylan, you're up. Real quick, I want to say, you wanted us to go to 20, but if we go to 21, then all of us will get an extra pick. Yeah, we'll go to 21.

So if you go to 20, yeah, we'll do 21. You go to 20, 12 doesn't get an extra pick. That's it. Look at the draw. Your name should have, your name should have come before D. Should have been called Albert.

I thought it. Oh, man. my next pick is Albert but so what if I did what I fucking fit what do you think he's a robot

he's a robot of Wolverine he's going to beat up a robot nobody how do you beat a robot it's impossible it can be done yes every single person on this list it's definitely beat up a robot

at least once some some multiples at the same time some of them have beaten up Albert already so you can't be beat maybe not a good pick he's Albert

what do you want so whenever John said Captain Marvel I was about to say why don't you pick Rogue because Rogue has Captain Marvel's like you know inherent skill set but you can also steal other people's

hours and stuff, but then I was like, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to wait until it's my turn and then I'm going to say rogue. I'm going to say rogue. You know, because she's Captain Marvel, but also she's cool. And she goes up with Gambit. And not that Cap of Marvel isn't cool, but you know what you mean? Like, Rogue is cool. She's just a cool character.

Like, everything about her is cool. She's a cool design, cool look. People call her Moonbeam. Cool, like, backstory. What? People call her Moonbeam for some reason. Listen, if I met Rogue in real life, I might call her Moonbeam. And then she beat the shit out of me.

I'm like, thank you. You know, you mentioned the ability to still powers. I literally today saw someone had posted panels. It might have been uncanny Avengers. I'm not sure what book it was, but Rogue stole She-Hulks powers and beat her in a fistfight. And then she lost control of the rage aspect of it and, you know, went a little nuts. but, you know, that's, again, proof that it doesn't have to be mutant powers for her to steal. She could still anyone's powers.

Doesn't that add, like, a really interesting wrinkle to this entire thing? We're, like, Rogue can not only have her own parts, but can just steal your parts and use them against you. So isn't that suddenly, like, a game changer? I mean, talking about, like, fighting games, it's kind of, like, you know, facing, like, Shane's son in Mortal Kombat, and he just turns into you and beat your ass using your powers and abilities. it's basically yes i mean to go back to street fighter

is street fighter three there's a character called 12 my his super is he just turns into you so he can use your moves and i'm like let's you know you're fighting yourself it's um it's a whole different

and again some of the people on here won't have experience with that they won't like for example do you think nick gray would be able to fight rogue who's stolen his powers he wouldn't know how to deal with that that's something totally new him. That's a weakness for

a moment ago impossible to stop Nick Gray. All it took was a cool-ass Rogue to get in there and she's changed the game. Southern woman changes the games. So what do you think about Rogue?

No, I think it's a great idea. I mean, that's... I'm digging that choice. I mean, we just literally had that argument last episode in our X-Men ranking where we put her in S-tier for that reason. Or like, Yeah, I mean, she could take your powers. That's fucking boss.

She's a fucking man, you know? She's a woman. We should change that term to be woman. Okay. You know? So, John, you're at 15 now. I'll go for Black Panther. It's kind of similar, I guess, to Iron Man,

in that he's like, a genius in a fancy suit but like I think he's got way better fighting skills than Tony Stark does and maybe that gives him a slight edge as well he doesn't have Tony Stark's ego as well

at least not as raging as Tony Stark has it anyway but yeah yeah Black Panther yeah he's got the resources he's got like the um by brain him

yeah he has that kind of like um he's the king of like um his own country he has that kind of responsibility that that that sense of like being able to do the right thing at the right time you know but also we get the shit kicked out of him by

he's got a witch so yeah I have no I mean I actually think that yeah panthers a good call i think that's one of the ones we're all going to be like fair of course yeah no really argument there it's like yeah of course yeah yeah fair enough yeah all right i have another weird one to make a lot of picks where we go right you know i got i got another weird one for you that i know that i feel like one of you is going to be way more into than the other

but i think just because he comes that he comes from fighting a completely different perspective than the other characters have i want to say daredevil oh I was going to say that's my prediction that was my prediction that was my prediction John would be fine with him but yeah no

he relies on different sense he anything that's visual based he's not going to really have a problem like I mean that's kind of your I mean would Scarlett which his powers even really work on him if it depends if it's illusionary if it's illusionary

he's not going to fucking see right that's a good point that's a really good point he is a resilient motherfucker. He gets beat down all the fucking time and still bounces back and finds a way to win. So, yeah.

That's a good call. I don't think a lot of people would have went with, you two would have. But like, if this was a different podcast with like other hack hosts it wouldn't have been dead. But we're different. We're different.

Yeah, I like that. I like that's a good call. Easy then. Yeah. Oh, no, do you guys want to debate a little bit more what they think of something? Yeah. All right, so this is another one, and if this doesn't give you the idea or not, it's a freebie. We were talking about Magneto, whether or not you count him as a hero or villain. What about Century?

Would you categorize Century as somebody who would be on the hero list or someone on the villain list? I mean, quite literally, he's kind of a has to be both because of the void. But, you know, every time he does something good, he has to do something bad to balance it out. I mean, the Santery is a hero. The void isn't. The void is, though. But the Santry is... He's been manipulated too many times into doing villainous things.

Yeah. Other heroes don't trust him. Because the fact that he can just go off the rail so quick. Then, if you're in a tournament, you don't need trust. True. Doesn't matter. So I don't know should we have in the maybe pile I mean he's not on the list yet because I nobody's picked him yet unless that's your pick is your pick in century

Yeah okay then he's not the list yet I had a really wild I have a really wild like I'd there pick that I don't think anybody's gonna go with and that's why I was thinking like should I pick somebody else not go for it we'll see what's up like fuck it it it's our show mm-hmm this this will do what we want right some people aren't gonna make the Yeah, we need to pad it out with some people. I mean, we're going to like, I'm going to pick a real Marvel comic experience since 1960s, and we're literally picking 16 heroes. So, yeah, there's a lot of people not making the list.

I'm going to pick somebody that I know both of you're going to disagree with, and you're not going to like it. It's a real wild card. And I don't think that in a million Sundays, you would have even thought that I was going to pick this character. Okay. A lot of buildup. We took Corey's finished ranking before.

So I'll spin on my computer. Bit take. I'm going to go with Domino. Because she has her, like, lock-based pars that means that whatever fight that she does get into is a really good chance that she'll just lock her way out of it and end up winning. Well, or that she'll just luck her way out of it and surviving. I mean, that's the, that's the other caveat. It's like she could, yeah, she's going to walk away,

I mean, is it because she survived or because she won? Here's the thing. I don't disagree with that pick. I don't disagree with that pick because Domino is, I love Domino for that reason. Now, the thing I do want to bring up to you, though, is why Domino and not Longshot? Because Longshot has experienced surviving literally everything that Mojo's ever thrown at him by using that, plus sick knife skills. Okay, cool. On the flip side, I like Domino better.

Yeah. Oh, come on. You don't like a mullet, you know, like a mullet? That is correct. I fucking hate a mullet. In fact, minus points a long shot. That was a, there was a, there was a X, I think it was X-Force X-Factor crossover in the 2010s where I think it was luck. No, no, it was, I can't remember who was.

It was either Longshot in Domino or Longshot and Black Cat and their powers kept canceling each other out. And like they were so aggravated with one of the ones. another because of that reason. But yeah, no, I do not disagree with Domino. I was thinking about Black Cap. I thought, I thought Domino, like, seems like, black cat seems much more, like,

low level, like, yes, you know, like, just like a petty crime kind of, like, she, she's not interested in this kind of, like, at all. Like, this is no, she's not anywhere near that. Yes, Domino is much more, like, she has killed people and she is in this kind of game, and she uses her luck-based powers to get her out of sticky situations and to kind of help her be a mercenary.

Like, that's part of it. So I thought that power set, the idea that you could just win because of the other, you could lose because the other person got lucky. I just thought that was such. So again, Nick Gray could be the most powerful person in the world, but fucking, he could sip in a banana skin and Domino could win just out of sheer luck.

Sure. You know, I, um, I find that, an interesting wrinkle. It's kind of like the daredevil thing where you're like, he, he is a move set, paris set that other people wouldn't expect, wouldn't necessarily come up against. I think Domino is that kind of thing where like, people are expecting to fight the Hulk. They're not expecting to fight Domino. And that's what's going to give her the edge, you know. I'm fine with that, like you said.

I also write, yeah, I also write. on Domino knowing full while that she's going to get cut. You don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know that. But no, I like Domino. I like Domino a lot just because I like the idea of the luck-based powers pulling her through. Again, she doesn't have a lot of control over how the luck manifests itself. She just has luck powers.

So, I mean, it could very well be like she draws the hole, but she just survives. She doesn't get smeared into the ground and left dead, you know? That's part of the fun. Yeah. John, do you have any strong thoughts on Domino? I think she's a wild card. I mean, yeah, I think her power set creates some interesting potential situations in these fights. So I'm kind of leaning towards her more than Black Bolt and Nate Gray, that's for sure.

There you go. All right, John, it is your pick. This is your penultimate pick. Yeah? So John, this is your pet ultimate pick. We all have one more pick after this. I will go for more of an anti-hero and say the Punisher. Ooh.

He has a big arsenal of weapons, which he can bust out and kill people with. And he's obviously pretty ruthless as well when it comes to fighting people. and yeah, I think you do pretty well in a situation like this. Fair enough. I think Punisher's biggest. Oh, you ahead, Dylan.

Lots of a guy that's coming at things from a very different kind of point of view. Like, but the Hulk's coming to things with that very basic, like, I'm just going to smash you with my fist. The Punisher, on the, on the, on the most, more obvious, side he's coming out of it with like I'm just going to shoot me with guns but there's a guy that like studies strategy and studies opponents and knows like the best way to take people down and he's he's

very like cerebral with that he's not just a guy with guns he thinks about stuff and he plans ahead so that's actually like a very very good pick if you think about it I am on the opposite end of the respective I think the Punisher's biggest asset is plot armor because I think if you put Punisher against any real villain, he is just a dude with guns. Like, yes, he does have combat, like, military and combat training, but, like, so does everyone else, for the most part. You know, like, what's the difference between him and Brock Rumlow is that Crossbones wears a mask and his symbol on his shirt's the other bones and not just the skull. I would say that, I mean, I would say if we're going straight power set, I mean, Punisher versus Black. bolt you know because that's the one we keep going up against like black bolts gonna

absolutely waste him what if the punisher the punisher like he's quite good at like being cerebral he can easily distract black bolt with something shoot him with some kind of like tranquilizer dart and then just like slit his throat but yeah i could also do that with blackball hasn't done anything but i mean he could do that to any character unless they had impervious skin like the hulk but again like you're saying like crossbones could do that and that's right going back to I mean, Crossbones could do that. Crossbones isn't a hero. He's going to be on the fucking villain list by the sound of it.

Don't put him on the villain list. No, I mean, Punisher's on the list, but I'm just saying, like, if we do have to start whittling him down, I think Punisher is one of the ones that I'm going to try to remove, because I don't think that, I think he would stick out like a sore thumb. Okay. He's on the list. All right. So is our last one, our last pick, are they going to be the most off-the-wall one that we have, is the question?

I think that should be... Up to you? I think that should be part of the agreement, is that the last pick has to be fucking buckwild. Oh. Because my off-the-wall pick is real off-the-fucking wall if that's the case. Because I know there's better ones. There's absolutely better ones we could do. Um, I mean, for God's sake.

Like, I think it takes so many that you're willing to argue for it. That's part of it. Now, are we willing to argue for this guy's, don't you mean? No, I get what you're saying. The point of this is we have to have a guy that you're willing to argue should deserves to be on the 16th. So not just, not just for fun. I can't just say like, you know, demolition man.

None. You absolutely can. And just throw it away. It just throw it away at that point. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Just throwing it away at that point. whatever.

Okay. Yeah, steel spider. Yeah, he's not fine. You know what you mean? Yeah, yeah. Um,

okay, cool. So if we're going with a Marvel hero, I want to, I want to say moon night. Because he's also, he's got, he's got,

basically his relationship with a god. He's bat shit fucking crazy. He has shown many, many times he's just as durable as daredevil and the fact that he will just keep going, no matter how much blood he loses or how many teeth gets knocked out. and he has tons of weapons and armor at his disposal as well. I know that that's not the most exciting pick in the world

because I feel like he's in that territory of a punisher and of a daredevil. But if we're going to go with like old school rules, if it's a full moon, he has enhanced abilities, which is always the weirdest thing for me. Well, he's a moon night. Yeah, exactly. Was this the weird character you were thinking of? No.

No, the weird one I was thinking of was speedball. Angel? No, speedball. Oh. Because kinetic power is being able to bounce off of stuff. If you go and flip it to his penance persona, he can redirect pain back into attacks. So, like, the more you hurt him,

the more he's going to hurt you back, that kind of deal. But that's the problem is he's not been penance in a while. Right, because it wasn't good. I liked pennants a lot. I thought it was a great war and all this idea. Well. Yeah. John, what do you think of Penance?

I quite liked it, to be fair. I've got no kind of connection to Speedball as a character anyway, so that was pretty much where I know him from is as Penance. Because I got away with Penance, dude. I liked Speedball well enough. I was a little disappointed when they switched him back to Speedball after Penance, though. I feel like you could have stayed Penance. I thought it was a cool look.

I liked the idea of, you know, I get like, you know, you know self-harm is a superpower and him obviously being super depressed and dealing with a lot of anxiety wasn't ideal but you know i don't know i thought it was unique i thought he looked unique i thought was good powers it's kind of bishop but like what if bishop was purposely putting himself in a place where he was constantly channeling his powers i think the panace had more stuff to do than speedball did yeah speedball was like kind of hard to take serious and maybe panace went too far the other way where it's like they shifted way too hard so the complete opposite that this is also hard to take seriously yeah it was real yeah but like but i agree with you and that it's really hard to go

from that back to speedball like all right you just got over it really quick is that how that works like i don't know i mean to be fair they did try to explore that in a couple of different ways like there was a mini series where basically people found out that he was speedball like on a mom was going after him for it. Avengers Academy was all about him, like, trying to make amends while dealing with, you know, the PTSD that he had encountered from surviving the school bus explosion and all of his friends and those kids dying.

I mean, they tried. They tried. But ultimately, at the end of the day, Marvel made the decision of penance is going to go back to being speedball. Right, but this choice you could pick, you keep him penance, you know. So, okay, so if I could put it up. It doesn't matter. I was going to say, I was going to say, like, if it was you and your choice was Moon Knight or Penance,

I feel like Penance is a very unique power set in comparison to Moon Knight, who I pointed out, is already kind of, like stepping on the toes of Black Panther, Daredevil and Punisher. Okay, that makes sense. Okay. Do you want to switch? I will switch. I'll put Penance. Do you want to switch?

I would put Penance as my last pick. Now, I ain't going to make the list, probably. but at least it's, you know, we have it listed. At least you try something different. Yes. That should be commanded. All right. So, Dylan, this is your last pick now.

Gambit. Gambit. See, no, I like... Cool. He's got... Cards stick. Anything you touch this kid explode. Yep.

Goes out with Rogue. Yep. I also feel like... Yeah, they are married. I'm married. Yeah. I feel like Gambit also has... I feel like Gambit has the ability to steal a couple of wins easily. I feel like people would underestimate him,

and he's roguish enough that he could steal a couple. I'm not saying he could win the whole thing. I think that Gambit's one of those guys. Oh. Yeah, but I think he's one of those guys that, like, at the start, they were kind of like, what do we do with this guy? And then, like, they've established him enough where he actually has a lot of upsides to him.

You know, like, he's more apart from... think he is, but he's also not like ridiculously overpowered. He has the potential where he could do, but there's a lot of stuff unexplored, still to this day, unexplored about his power set. It makes you think that there's a lot more to him. The fact

that he does go into a fight with a deck of cards, whenever he could be using something like way, way heavier or way more expansive, says a lot about him as a character as well. So this is going to sound like a weird... He can manipulate lots of I was going to say I actually forgot what I was going to say

that's fine oh I was actually I was going to point out they did Avengers when they did Avengers versus X-Men they had him versus Captain America and I am of the opinion they copped out because he basically blew up Captain America's uniform and Captain America like he did feel it

but he still won the fight you know he like survived or he didn't get knocked out by the explosion and he, you know, took out Gambit and a punch. So I, I disagreed with that. I feel like if you blow up something Captain America is wearing, he's going to feel it a little bit more than that. But yeah. Also, if he, if you blow up Captain America's like uniform, right? His face is still.

Yeah. So, like, if this bit explodes, this bit's going to feel something. Yeah, yeah. So basically what happened is Captain America was wearing a tattered unit. and looking kind of like winded and basically said like something pithy and then punched Gambit in the face. But it was it was Avengers versus X-Men in the 2010s, you know, they weren't winning. Everybody's favorite storyline.

So that could happen again and this time Gamma could win. He's just going around blowing everyone's close up. Oh, what do you think about Gambit? I don't think he could be kept in America, but I think he's, He's a good child for this, I guess. I guess. We got to whittle it down to 16 for 21, so. Okay.

All right, John. It's your final pick. Is this the last pick? This is the very last pick. Moon Knight. I can't really go for Moonlight, but I'll go for Luke Cage instead. Okay.

He's like another street level. guy, but he's got super strength, and he's got, like, an impenetrable skin as well. So I think that would give him some sort of edge in a lot of fights. But yeah. Okay. Can I ask a question? Go for it. Why Luke Cage over the thing?

That is interesting. There is no fantastic four representation here. I did not consider the thing. Yeah. I don't know. Ferrodolf liked him. Farad off. You don't have to get more complicated than that.

Now, here we go. Headband and yellow blouse, or no? Yeah, you'd have to. He has to wear the tiara. Yep. Yeah, needs a headband. 100%. All right.

So that is 21 names. Dylan, you want to run through those before we start the arduous process of whittling it down to 16? Yes. So our list at the moment is Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Captain America, the Hulk, Thor, Scarlet Witch, Deadpool, Storm, Black Bolt, Nate Gray, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, Rogue, Black Panther, Daredevil, Domino, the Punisher, Panins, Gambit, and Luke Cage with the headband. All right, so how this will work is, I think we just go through the list from start to bottom, and it's yay or nay. And if it's not unanimous, they go into the maybe pile at that point. I feel like we already have some of the maybe pile for sure, but this way we have some decorum.

All right, so, Iron Man, that would be a yes for me. Yep. Yay. All right, Spider-Man. Yes. Yep Yep Wolverine

Yes Yep Yep Captain America Oh yes Sorry I forgot I was first Yep The Hulk

Yes Yep Yep Yep Deadpool, yes. Yep. Yep. Storm, yes.

Yes. Yes. Okay. Blackbolt. No. No. No. All right.

Let you go. X-Man. I'm going to say no. Yes. No. Okay. I'm going to put him in the maybe pile. He's the maybe pile.

Yeah, Black Bolt's not because there was no votes for Blackbolt. Unanimous, no, Black Bolt. Captain Marvel, yes. Yes. Yes. Dr. Strange, yes. Yes. Yes.

Role-Rogue, yes. Rogue, yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Black Panther. No. Yes.

Yes. Okay. So that's in the maybe pile. Daredevil. Yes. Yes. Yes. Domino.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yay! The Punisher, no. Yes. Yes. Okay, maybe a pile.

Penance. Yes. No. No. Gambit. Maybe pile. Yes. Yes.

Yes. You're the real failure of this podcast. All right. Cage, uh, yes. Yeah. Yes. All right. So Dylan, how many are still on the list that we got all yeses? Because if it's more than 16, then all the ones in the maybe pile are automatically eliminated.

You're not going to believe this. Yeah. We have exactly seen. Really? Yeah. Holy shit. That worked. 8, 9. exactly 16 perfect

all right you want to run down this is the official Marvel quadrant of the smart avengers bracket Marvel Heroes bracket here we go go for it Dylan you ready yes Iron man

Ironman Ironman spider man Wolverine Captain America the Hulk Thor scarlet witch Deadpool storm Captain Marvel Doctor Strange rogue

dare devil Gambit and Luke Cage with the headband. All right. Well, I am stupid. You have known how happy I am. The Domino got in over Black Panther or the Punisher. It was just, she's just unique, man.

She's just unique. I love that. All right. So I think that's going to be part one of this process. What we'll do is we're going to take those names. We're going to put them in randomizer and that's going to determine the first round matches of that bracket so they will be there will be no sense of order it will be the order they were picked it's going to be completely

random so next episode we're going to do the same thing but we're going to go marvel villains which i feel like might be i feel it might be a little harder but that's next episode but john watches a lot of movies per year uh he probably is up in the 800th at this point you'll listen in the next episode in here for sure. But John, where can they see your reviews of all these movies you watch? They can go to Letterbox and find

me at Big Jombowski All One Word. Dylan, what do you get up to during the week? I do a radio show every Monday nights at 9 o'clock UK time 9 to 11 on BynceitigitalRadogood.com.

You can listen to it wherever you are in the world. Just make sure. that you adjust your clock so it shows UK time, aka the correct time. And you'll be able to listen in if you go to the link on your web browser. The link should be in the description below. We play all sorts of music like Beck and Pearl Jam and some type of pilots and a lot of like random stuff that you might not have heard before because I really like showing off new music that doesn't always get played in the radio.

We've been playing a lot of local Belfast band. So if you want to hear us what Bell Pass is up to these days, Check out the show. You'll hear some cool bands. Like Winona Bleach, they're great. And then sometimes I stream on Twitch to draw some little animations at Spooky LaRue. I'm actually drawn one.

We'll be finished, ironically, by the time this episode was up about the Joker. I'm so happy, but that animation should be up by the time you watch this. So check out Spooky LaRue on Twitch. Or Team Crows, I think, is our YouTube page, where our animation is going to go up. There'll be a link for that down to tape. Perfect. I have another show called Large Old Cup,

where I just kind of talk about whatever is going on. And I also have a writing project called Henry's usual. And maybe some other stuff by the time this is up. Links to all that is in the description as well. So join us next week as we give the Marvel villains the same treatment where we try to select 16 Marvel villains that will go into this tournament and represent the evil side. of the Marvel universe. But until then, we'll see you all later. Goodbye. Bye. Bye.