The Smark Avengers - The Marvel vs DC Tournament FINALS - Who Wins It All?

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

After months of debates, chaos spins, and brutal matchups, the Smark Avengers Marvel vs DC Tournament finally reaches its conclusion. Corey, Dylan, and Jon break down the Final Four and decide which character will be crowned champion. Before the final battles begin, the crew looks back at some of the most iconic moments and defining feats from each remaining contender: Scarlet Witch – reality-warping power and Avengers history Apocalypse – the ancient mutant survivalist with limitless upgrades John Constantine – the master manipulator of magic and demons Parallax – the cosmic embodiment of fear that once corrupted a Green Lantern ⚔️ Final Matchups: Scarlet Witch vs Apocalypse John Constantine vs Parallax The winners of those battles advance to the ultimate Marvel vs DC showdown, where the hosts must decide once and for all who deserves to win the entire tournament. Will overwhelming power win the day? Will strategy and trickery carry the fight? Or will the tournament end in total chaos? After 10 episodes of comic debates, the bracket finally closes and a champion is crowned. 💬 Join the debate: Did the right character win the tournament? 👍 Like the video if you enjoy Marvel vs DC matchups 🔔 Subscribe for more comic deep dives, debates, and chaotic tournaments Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's project "Henry's Usual": https://www.tumblr.com/henrysusual Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f

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He's a cyborg. It's more matalo, but not, you know, not mint tallow, but here we are. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Spark Avengers. His name is Corey. And with me is Dylan and John. We're going to start on that kind of a slothalow. low note.

How's it going, guys? Pretty good. Dylan has taken a vow of silence. It's going to be a very odd episode today. It's going to be unfortunate because you won't be on camera for a lot of it because we're going to be wrapping up something that has been

almost like what, nine, ten episodes of work we've put into this. And today's the day. It comes to a head. We're going to finally wrap up the Marvel versus DC tournament. the official Smart Avengers Marvel versus DC tournament to crown the greatest comic book character in the two big publishers.

That is what's at stake here, guys. I will say as a caveat, I don't think any of these four characters who are battling out today would be my favorite or the best or anything. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, they got far in the tournament.

Now, of course, it was due to some, some shenanigans with the wheel and maybe people being spiteful and forcing the wheel into play when it didn't need to be into play. I don't know. Hard to tell. Hard to tell. But yes. So for several weeks, we have painstakingly drafted a roster of characters that represented the big two in the heroes and villains divisions. We then randomly put them into first round matches. and then we had multiple episodes where we kind of went through a bracket and determined who was going to be the best of the best. And so as a recap, representing the Marvel Heroes, we have Scarlet Witch, representing the Marvel villains, we have Apocalypse, representing the DC Heroes, we have John Constantine, and representing the DC villains, we have Parallax.

So I know you're asking, we only have three matches today. We have Scarlet Witch versus Apocalypse, John Constantine versus Parallax, and then the final. How are we going to make this episode last an hour? Oh, Corey, yes. Before we got three matches on the show, how are we going to make it last all the time? That's an excellent question, Dylan. I'm so happy that you asked it. I have put together another PowerPoint presentation.

and it's one I'm particularly proud of because it took way longer than I care to I've already admitted it to both of you it took like six hours to put together but here we are so are you guys ready to head over into what I have dubbed the tale of the tape as we take a look at all four of our competitors yes excellent the Marvel versus DC finale a smart Conventure's production and along the left-hand side you can see our matches as well as the third thing where the wheel fucked us. So as I said, this is going to be our tale of the tape. We have the Scarlet Witch, we have Apocalypse, we have John Constantine, we have Parallax. So without further ado, let's take a look at our first competitor, the Scarlet Witch, aka Wanda Maximov. Wanda got here by defeating Gambit in the first round, Iron Man in the second round, Wolverine in the third round, and then Captain Marvel in the

final round. The sort of, she had a bit of a journey to get here. Any thoughts on how she got here? Yeah, I actually forgot she won. I thought Rogue won. And then I'm like, okay, I guess

I was just dreaming up something else. I mean, we have name-drop for several times. Yeah, but I don't watch the show. Don't pay attention. You know, it was my job to pay attention? I don't think. so that's literally all I have to say what are John of you having to say

I mean I think there was a lot of upsets in the Marvel hero side of the bracket like our very first match was Captain America being Spider-Man yeah bullshit

so you know I will point out by the way stuff going on there I will point out by the way the reason Spider-Man defeated or was defeated by Captain in America is because John was the only person who said that Spider-Man shouldn't win that. And we took it to the world because of that reason. So, John, I don't want to hear you lament that hard. I mean, there needed to be a bit of chaos involved in everything.

There's a lot of chaos evolved. that's why I Scarlet Witch won. Exactly. And someone I was just about to say. Yeah, so you can't get too upset about all of this. I mean, we are all practically upset about this. I mean, here's the thing. When it comes down to it, I have, the template of the slideshow I was using came to these nice

little slider bars. I'm like, oh, okay, I'll modify them. So, you know, I gave Scarlet Witch on the rankings that I thought were the most important, which are sanity, her sexual attraction, do Androids, and having cool tiaras. Which, as you can see, she has. quite a few of them. I'm surprised her sanity is not stable.

I mean, it could be better. That's for sure. Right, it's not middle of the road, but also, I feel like she raised all the mutants from history, so like maybe she'd be a little closer to bad shit. Also, she went crazy and killed loads of the Avengers, so that doesn't normally happen. So, Dylan, I'm happy you brought that up because it's not just this slide. I decided that it would be best for us to, before we really dive into who should

win, we talk about some of their big moments that showed off their resourcefulness, their power, their greatest victories, or maybe in Wanda's case not so much greatest victories, but I mean, fuck, she pulled off something with the very first one, which is House of M. She pulled off something that several mutant hating groups had failed to do many times. So, of course, I'm referring to, as Dylan mentioned, no more mutants from House of M. In the 2005, House Vim number seven storyline to Stroth Scarlet Witch reverses her fabricated reality by whispering no more mutants, stripping 90% of the mutant population of their powers. The event known as decimation or m-day reduced the global mutant population to fewer than 200. So think of all of the X-Men villains that are not like for mutant supremacy.

So we're talking about the Friends of Humanity. We're talking about like the Sentinels and Bolivar Trask. All of these groups have been trying to do what she, pulled off in three words. Pretty impressive. So really, she's the bad guy if you think about it. She shouldn't have been on the hero

at all, and we should redo the hero bracket and Spider-Matcha win, and Gambit should also win. They'll win by holding hands. Yeah, that's fine. But as you mentioned also previously, another big moment for the Scarlet Witch, Avenger Killer. And Avengers disassembled.

The story begins with a series of sudden escalating tragedies at Avengers Mansion that resulted in the deaths of Ant-Man, the Vision, and Hawkeye. Dr. Strange arrives and reveals the source of the reality-warping attacks is Wanda. Her breakdowns triggered by a suppressed memory of her lost children whom she had magically created, but were actually fragments of the demon Mephesto's soul. Wanda blamed her teammates for their part in her losing them and for hiding the truth from her. So, yeah, not only did she, you know, kill off, you know, Ant-Man, the Vision, and Hawkeye, she also publicly humiliated Iron Man by

making it look like he lost his sobriety in front of the United Nations. So I mean, like I said, she's... I would also say that a lot of other Avengers villains have failed to kill the Avengers. And once again, Scarlet Witch was able to do something that they've spent years and years and years trying to do. Again, is she really just the biggest villain of all time? Have we been wasting our time here? starting this hot off isn't it?

Maybe we should try and get to some like more heroic deeds that she's done. Yeah, some good news. Yeah. What else did you do? I'm glad you mentioned that because up next we have imprisoning. I'm the parentheses I'm going to say it Chuffin. Is it Chuffin? Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah. So this is from the Dark Hold Omega series. Chothen is a demonic elder god and one of the most powerful dark entities in the Marvel universe.

He is the original author of the Darkhold, a book of infinite dark magic knowledge, and is known as the God of Chaos. Chothan's ultimate goal was to use Wanda as a mortal vessel to return to Earth. By marking her as an infant, he ensured she would eventually have the power necessary to anchor his full presence in the physical world. She ended up defeating Chothan by absorbing the dark hold, which is essentially his soul and power, into herself. And by doing so, she became the true dark hold and effectively changed Chothan within the darkest depths of her own soul, ending his evening his evening. yon's long influence over her. So again, she didn't do those things because she was bat-shake crazy.

She did all that stuff because she'd been secretly possessed by a demonic god for her entire life. So not only does she have unlimited, like, cosmic power, but she also has the power of this crazy-ass demon inside her. Yes. Okay. We should be a little

concerned about this. I mean, I would say this is a pretty heroic deed for her. You know, this demonic overlord can't return to Earth because now he's stuck inside of her. Right, but no, he's inside of her, and she can return to Earth. Oh, yeah, but that's okay, because up next, we have our final feat of power and of excellence, I will say, of doing stuff that no one else is capable of doing, becoming the Sorcerer Supreme. So this is a bit of a title upgrade for her. So unlike most who hold the title of Sorcerer Supreme, Wanda was not originally appointed by the Vashanti, the magical trio that oversees the sorcerer supreme title.

Instead, she claimed the title by saving the eye of Agamato and the cloak of levitation from destruction after the previous holder of the title Dr. Doom was defeated. The Vashanti, however, are not pleased with this and view Wanda as a rogue sorcerer supreme. So again, she marches to the beat of her own drummer. She's like, listen, this stuff was going to get destroyed, thanks to Dr. Doom fucking up, and I saved it, and because I saved it, I'm going to protect it and kind of claim it for myself. So the Vashanti, like, have her, she kind of has like a assembly, a cabinet of people she consults as the Sorcerer Supreme and Marvel now. And it includes Clea Strange. It includes

Chawthon, who actually, like, she speaks to, to a degree, and other very powerful magic user. So she's giving herself some accountability. She's giving herself, you know, a support system to lean into as the, as this rogue sorcerer supreme now. So again, pretty impressive feat. There have been a few sorcerer supremes, but none of them have just outright said, no, I'm just going to do it. I'm not going to wait for these three magic gods

to decide that I'm ready to be sorcerer supreme. I'm just going to take it. Right, exactly. I don't want to keep harping on this. I feel like this also makes you seem a little bit like a bag. She just took the title of sort. It's me not. It belongs to me.

And you said one of the people that you talk to that holds her accountable is the fucking weird demon that lives inside her? You know... I mean, the demon created chaos magic. You know, if you're going to use magic... It's starting to get some real mixed feelings about this Scarlet Witch. Gotta be honest with you. Maybe we should go back and make it Spider-Man.

Well, unfortunately, we do not have the time to do that. We've already invested a lot of time and effort into this whole tournament. And now we have to live with the wheel and John's foolish decisions to push it forward. Thanks, John. Thanks, John. It's on my fault. Well, so Scarlet Witch, like I said, she represents the Marvel Heroes Division. Representing the villains division, we have Apocalypse in Sabah Nour.

So Apocalypse got here by defeating the Taskmaster in the first round, Thanos in the second round, the Green Goblin in the third round, and Magneto in the final round. So what were your thoughts on Apocalypse in his journey to get here? John, what did you think about Apocalypse being the Green Goblin and Magneto? I think it's bullshit, man. Yeah? There's no way he could have survived one of those pumpkin bombs.

I mean, Spider-Man has. Spider-Man's better than Apocalypse, though, so that makes sense. Spider-Man didn't win his thing. No, exactly. a lot of ins and out of this. Yeah, it's very nuanced. It's very complicated. Yeah. I mean,

in Thanos is something. Yep. Pretty good. I can't believe we had him beat Magneto. Does that come down to the wheel? That was absolutely it did come down to the wheel. That was not a unanimous decision. I can tell you, the only unanimous decision I think we reached here

was him beating Taskmaster. the first round. I feel like that's probably legit, right? I think that's fair. Yeah. Or taskmaster. It's hard to beat somebody up, but you don't know what it is they do. I mean, look at his ranking in normal lip color.

Okay. I meant more of his clarity of power as far, but sure of the lip color. Yeah. I don't think, Corey, you shouldn't judge people based on the color of their lips. I think you can. That's going to get us in trouble. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Anyway, so would you like to see some of Apocalypse's big feats? And not his big feat. That's the Idrisalva podcast. Okay. All right. So up first, we have ascending to power. This came in the X-Men, The Rise of Apocalypse mini-series. Born in Akaba, Egypt, thousands of years ago,

the baby, his apocalypse as a baby, is cast out due to a strange appearance. He was born with gray skin and black. blue lips, obviously. He's rescued by a nomadic tribe that teaches him to survive in the harsh world. At the time, Egypt is ruled by Pharaoh Ramatut, as we all would know, is one of the past versions of Kang the Conqueror, who has Apocalypse's tribe killed in an attempt to stop him from growing into the threat he would eventually become. Thus, instead, or I put this, I don't know why, instead led to apocalypse swearing vengeance that eventually led him to discovering the celestial technology that allowed him to alter his body. Did that

celestial technology come from Kang or did Kang does not realize that shit was there? I think it was one of those things that you can't really fuck with the past too much because things are inevitable are going to happen one way or another. Right. And it was definitely

a younger Kang that was trying to stop apocalypse. Is that a lion? There's a lot. There's a lot in this late 90s X-Men art to look at. I mean, just look at the state of Kang's head. It's all pinched Yeah, I mean, I was just going to gloss over that hat completely.

I actually own this book. It's pretty good. I thought you're going to say you own that hat. Oh, I wish. That's John's podcast hat. He wears it all the time. Is it a good book? Yeah, yeah. As like a kind of origin story for Apocalypse, I really enjoyed it. Okay. Very interesting.

Put that down on the list. Okay. Well, next up, we have his arrival and archangel. This is from the storyline Fall of the Mutants. So after the loss of his wings, Warren Worthington, the third attempts to commit suicide by exploding his private jet, but was teleported away by Apocalypse of the last second. Apocalypse subjects Warren to genetic alterations, turning his skin blue and crafting razor-sharp, techno-organic metal wings to his back.

Warren has then re-christened death, the leader of the four horsemen. A brainwashed warden ruthlessly attacks his former X-Factor teammates, even though Warren eventually breaks out of Apocalypse's control. Angel's time as death has haunted him for years. So A, I love Apocalypse in this art. I mean, look at it. Look at his smile. He's so happy. Look at what I did. Look what I did. I ruined this perfectly good white boy.

Yeah. And yeah, so like you said, that's another example of Apocalypse and his ability to, to physically alter and change himself and other people, which is kind of a thing for him as a result of that, you know, kind of the master of the celestial technology. So let's head to his third big feat here, which is the 12 and merging with Cyclops.

Apocalypse or orchestrates a massive long-term plan to abduct 12 legendary mutants intending to use their combined power to transform himself into a deity-like entity. He uses a brainwash wolverine to, capture the 12, but during the ritual, Magneto, whose powers are weakened at the time, proves to be the weak leak, causing the celestial machine to malfunction. As Apocalypse begins to his essence transfer into Nate Gray, Cyclops pushes Nate out of the way, and Apocalypse Spirit merges with Cyclops instead.

So another example of his feat of genetically changing and altering people to suit his needs. Sometimes himself, sometimes people, he, you know, kind of just needs for whatever reason. And then finally, we have becoming annihilation. So this is from the X of Swords event. So thousands of years ago, Apocalypse's wife, Genesis, and their children stayed behind in the demonic realm of Amenth to hold back an infinite hoard. When his family finally returns, they have become corrupted by annihilation, a demonic entity. Apocalypse organizes the tournament in other world, not just to save Krakoa, but to reunite with his lost family. The tournament culminates in a duel between Apocalypse and Genesis.

despite defeating her, he refuses to kill her, and instead he takes the golden mask of annihilation from her. Due to his strength and power, he's able to ward off annihilation's influence and leaves Crocoa to rejoin his family. Again, Apocalypse is sort of synonymous with survival of a fittest, and that means altering yourself to evolve, essentially, which is kind of like his big mutant power. I remember when we were kind of talking about Apocalypse in the tournament in his first round matchup, we're like, his powers are really vague. He seems to be able to kind of just do whatever they need him to do. But like the recurring theme is just fucking with your basic anatomy and making you into whatever he needs you to be. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. So that's sort of our look at Apocalypse. So we're going to head over across the aisle, so to speak, to DC Comics, as we look at the Hellblazer, John Constantine. So Constantine got here by defeating Swamp Thing in the first round, Martian Manhunter in the second round, Zatana in the third round, and then Power Girl in the final of the DC Heroes bracket.

Constantine is also an odd choice for Hero, if you think about it as well. He's very morally gray. He does a lot of fucked up shit to accomplish what he needs to get done. And that's kind of what he does. And as you can see from his stats of fucking a shark, lung cancer, and cool guy extraordinaire, because, you know, he's cynical as hell. I mean, look at him. He's smoking.

that makes you cooler. I mean, you can smoke and drink milk. You can smoke and fuck a shark. Which clearly he does. He absolutely did. Maybe not at the same time. That's like cowards away out, John. Come on now.

All right, so let's get into the many feats of John Constantine. Curing his own cancer. So this came from the storyline Dangerous Habits. John is dying of terminal lung cancer and his soul was promised to the first of the fallen, the most powerful of the three lords of hell, in a previous encounter. Knowing the first of the fallen was looking forward to torturing him,

John secretly sold his soul to the second and then again to the third of the fallen. So when John died, all three rulers of hell showed up to claim their prize. The first of the fallen realized that if he took John's soul, the other two would go to war with him, potentially causing a massive disruption in hell and allowing heaven to win. To prevent this war, the triumvirate was forced to heal John's cancer and cure him, saving his life and leaving the first of the fallen furious, but unable to take him.

Be clever. That's going to be the theme. Does that mean he can't die? No, no. It means that he's going to have to live until they can figure out a way to get out of that deal. Okay. So there is, you're familiar with Batman Beyond, right?

Yes. There is a storyline in one of the Batman Beyond comics that is an elderly John Constantine still alive. still, you know, doing what he does best. Morally Gray fucked up shit. And speaking of fucked up shit, breaking an angel. This is the storyline from fear and loathing.

So after John tricked the first of the fallen into helping him cure his cancer, he knew the devil wouldn't just give up. So John knew that the first would come for him eventually. And to prepare for that inevitability, John manipulated the fall of the archangel Gabriel. John set it up so that Gabriel would unknowingly fall in love with the succubus Ellie and sleep with her. by losing his virginity to a demon, the archangel Gabriel was cast out of heaven.

Now a fallen angel whose heart was in John's possession, Gabriel had no choice but to fight for John in hell. And as if that wasn't bad enough, Constantine also fucked up his wings with a chainsaw just for fun. Because he also had to cut open Gabriel's chest to get his heart. Wow, it's the easiest way to get into it. I feel like clearly John Constantine is not the only person on this list

who is broken an angel. So there you go. Yeah. And also he doesn't seem like he's that good of a hero as well. We really fucked up with the heroes, didn't we? A little bit. That's okay. We're going to go into John's third feat, which is stealing his own innocence.

This is from a storyline called A Sent. That was a miniseries tie-in between Hellblazer and the books of magic. But as a young child, John performed a consciously or. unconsciously, magical act by sealing away his childhood, innocence, vulnerability, and wonder into a box, burying it to rid himself of it as he viewed it as a weakness. So stripping himself of that special part of his youth sent him down his path to the supernatural. Years later, young magician Tim Hunter found it and offered it back to Constantine, and in the process, the pair were attacked by a demon looking to capture it for himself. After defeating the demon, Constantine

declined Tim's offer to allow himself to keep his edge, despite that loss being was what inevitably was responsible for a lifetime of pain, trauma, and loss. I see. Yeah, so like you said, John had the ability to basically go, hmm, I see that being a good person is going to keep me from doing the shit I need to do. So let's nip that in the bud. By the way, I don't know if I agree with any.

There was another one that I was tempted to put on here, but I think that would skew him too far away from being a hero, and that he had an abusive dad. And so he tied his dad's side. soul to a dead cat so that his father was incapable of feeling emotions or any sort of joy or anything just to fuck with him. So, so yeah, John, John's spiteful as hell. Yeah, maybe we did fuck up the heroes in this. I think we made a huge mistake. We have made a lot of issues here. All right, and our fourth one, poisoning a demon. This is from a storyline called a drop of the hard

stuff. John's friend made a deal with the devil to have the magic he needed to make some of the best wine and alcohol using holy water. The spell is active as long as some candles are lit up around him. According to the deal, the devil has up to midnight to collect his soul after he dies, or his soul goes to heaven. John tricked the devil into drinking the wine, then turned off the candles, turning the wine back into holy water while it was in the

devil's throat, leading to the devil experiencing excruciating pain before John smashed the whole bottle over his face and severely injuring him with holy water. And then I believe he kicked his body into a bathtub full of the stuff as well. He really went to town on that devil. I think the devil should have years

of experience of not being tricked by people. It's swallowing for a lot of really silly tricks here. It's kind of like that's kind of you know, we talked about John Constantine, we talked about how magic is like his deal. He's probably one of the greatest occult minds in DC

comics. His real skill is being manipulative and being a dick. Like if being a cunt is a superpower, that's John Constantine's power. So, last but not least, we have our member of the villains bracket, the Parallax. So Parallax got here by defeating Darkside in the first round, Starro in the second round, death stroke in the third round, and Doomsday in the final round. Arguably, he had the hardest road to get here out of everyone else.

And of course, his stats are liver problems because he's yellow, concern over a can of raid because he is a very large space bug and he's got a lot of codependency problems. Understandable. Understandable. So parallaxes big feats, of course, the perfect host.

This is from the storyline Emerald Twilight. After Coast City is destroyed by Cyborg, Superman, and Mongol, Hal Jordan is emotionally broken, making him susceptible to the entity representing fear. Believing that he could restore Coast City if he had more power, Hal traveled to Oa, the Green Lantern,

home world and entered the central power battery. The entity, which had been the source of the yellow impurity inside the rings, merged with him while he was in the battery. Parallax magnified John's rage and, or Hal Jordan's rage and fear, turning him into a villain who destroyed the Green Lantern Corps and battled the Guardians. So essentially, he destroyed the entire Green Lantern Corps by himself under Parallax's possession and influence. Now, I will...

That's pretty good. I will say this is going to be a bit of... of an asterisk essentially in that all of these feats that parallaxes had or at least the first this one in particular in the second one these are retcons at the time dc comics were like no hal jordan's just a villain now he did this on his own accord he's a bad guy you know he he suffered some loss and it broke him uh jeff johns who was a big hal jordan fanboy when he got the pen so to speak at dc one of his things that he was looking forward to was undoing that and so parallel was created.

Okay. So the second of our Parallax big feats is attempting to reset time in the storyline Zero Hour. So still feeding off of and amplifying Hal Jordan's fear and anger, Parallax attempted to reboot time by erasing the existing universe and replacing it with one of his own making. He uses his vast power to destroy the timeline in an effort to undo the destruction of Coast City and his own subsequent murderous actions. Parallax's goal was not just to fix the past, but to completely replace it to alleviate

his guilt. The heroes of Earth stop parallax before his vision is fully realized, and the hero damage initiates a new Big Bang, resulting in a rebuted universe with some subtle differences. So he partially succeeded in resetting time. Which is a lot of... If it was just attempting to reset time, that's not really an accomplishment. It's a partial success. I can attempt to... No.

I don't know. No. He brought... Because anybody can attempt it. Yes, but he brought the Justice Society. from the 1940s into the present day. He also, I believe, brought back Supergirl or like the weird angel that became Supergirl.

Like, there were some accomplishments there. That's what we're saying. Like, attempting it and, like, having a partial success. Two different things. Yeah, it's a partial success. Yeah. So that we're saying is fine. Just saying if he attempted to do it,

you're like, that's, you know, anybody can attempt to. to do murder. That's not the same. All right. So here is the first accomplishment that is purely a parallax accomplishment, not a retcon. And that is a new host. This came during the Sinestro Corps War.

So after Hal Jordan has resurrected, the parallax entities removed from his body and spirit, but it wouldn't wait long to find a new host. Kyle Raynor, the Green Lantern, who replaced Hal Jordan and restored the Green Lantern Corps, discovered a yellow ring that transported him to Quard, where Sinestro and the Sinestro Corps ambushed him.

Senestro uses the fear and guilt Kyle felt regarding his mother's death and the recent murder of his Green Lantern friend Jack T. Chance to make him susceptible to the entity. Parallax is forced into Kyle and the entity possesses him to continue his war against the Green Lanterns and the Galaxy. So got a brand new host. Sure does like those Green Lanterns. Well, it's personal for him because they're the ones who trapped him. Mm-hmm. All right.

And here is our final accomplishment of Paralax. Possessing Superman. This came from the storyline a minute longer. The fear entity parallax possessed Superman by exploiting his compassion and forcing him to surrender to protect endangered children. After Parallax, the embodiment of yellow fear traps and terrorizes children in an abandoned school. Superman confronts the entity but is overwhelmed. To stop the torture of the children, Superman willfully consented to allowing Parallax to inhabit his body.

While Parallax believes it has secured a new powerful host, Superman manages to trick the entity, however, as he takes a yellow power ring that belonged to Sinestro, and instead of being controlled by it, uses his immense willpower to force parallax into the ring itself. So it's a loss, but not many people can say they've possessed Superman. Yeah, like three people tops, right? Yeah, around that amount, I imagine. So that is going to be our accomplishments for our villains. Now, you've noticed they all have a bit of a trend. Scarlet Witch, a lot of her accomplishments involved basically questionable judgment that has, you know, seen her do something impossible.

With Apocalypse, it's all about genetically modifying himself or others in order to pursue his survival of the fittest motif. For John Constantine, it's all about manipulation and tricking people into doing things that, you know, he needs them to do. And for Parallax, it's all about manipulating people who are at their own. lowest in order to take what he needs the most, which is a body. So those are our four things, our four big things in common with our four big heroes and villains. Let's go ahead and hop out of here and get into the actual matches. All right, guys, we're back at our very familiar site, which is, of course, our Smart Avengers DC versus Marvel bracket, which is almost completely filled now.

We have looked at all of our four big characters. we've seen the tale of the tape, and now we have to get into the matches to crown a winner. So, first up, on the Marvel side, we have the Scarlet Witch versus Apocalypse. Knowing what we know about both characters now, seeing what their big accomplishments and feats have been over the last decades and decades worth of material,

how do you feel like the matchup between the Scarlet Witch and Apocalypse will go? I mean, if we're talking about like pure, power. I'd say Scarlet Witch has probably got the edge. She was pretty powerful to begin with killing Avengers and wiping out

99% of mutants. And now she's got the living dark hold in her and she's claimed the Sorcero Supreme Title as well. I would say that probably bumps her up to a level that

Apocalypse can't really compete against. I will counterpoint that. I will counterpoint that by saying that as of now, in the Crocoa era, even if it's post-Crocoa, Apocalypse has the annihilation entity inside of him. He has his own demon inside of him now as well. And this is all about... They're both demons.

Yeah, exactly. And these are both characters that are, you know, Apocalypse is all about rising to that challenge and forcing him. himself to evolve and adapt in order to continue to stay on top of the heap, essentially. I believe Apocalypse used a bit of magic in the Corcoran age as well. But I don't think he, you could say he's like as big of a master of magic as the Scarlet Witches.

I will say that Scarlet Witch tried to get rid of all the mutants and she didn't, she wasn't able to get rid of Apocalypse. Was she trying to get rid of? rid of Apocalypse. She was trying to get rid of all the mutants. She didn't get rid of... I don't know why some mutants didn't lose their powers and

the rest did, though? That's very ill-defined. Yeah. I'm just saying he was technically able to survive whatever it is. She did. Plus, he can make his fist turn into a hammer. The gun?

Yeah. I'll be able to think. thought about that. A big pinchy claw. Yeah. What if he turns Scarlet Witch into like blue-skinned angel, demon thing? He's none of a four.

Catch her first, though. The big net. It's a bit of a difference, like capturing Angel, who's just a guy with wings, and then Scarlet Witch, who's this souped up, super powerful,

uh, sorceress. One thing I will say about that is that he was very smartly able to capture Angel at his lowest, whenever Angel was about to commit suicide and the apocalypse rescued him. One thing we know about the Scarlet Witch is that her mental capabilities can be questionable at best, and she has had many different periods of depression and instability that could be easily manipulated by a character like, Apocalypse, who has in the past shown very capable of manipulating such characteristics.

Yeah? Maybe. That's what I'm thinking. Plus he's seen all sorts of weird shit, you know? I feel like he would know how to adapt to that kind of stuff. He's been alive for thousands of years as well. He's gotten experience, as to say the least, in that regard.

I mean, and he's... Yeah, he has slept through most of things. He swore vengeance against fucking Kang though as well. He still hasn't got it. Still hasn't gotten it. Well, it's hard to catch him. He's all over the place. His giant sword with his multiple scarlet.

I would say that's like a check against him. The fact he swore vengeance against Kang 2,000 years ago and then still hasn't, you know, seen it through. He's been busy with the meetings. He's really, he's been getting his wife and kids. The mutants only really came around in the last like 150 years or so. And he was asleep for most of that. So you can see.

He's reconnected with his wife and kids currently. Yeah. Which is sweet, isn't it? It's a nice thing. I feel like the way this is going is that me and John have different opinions. And Corey is the third person of this. I've been very silent. I had not been silent.

I've been contributing. Thank you. I will say this, that my initial instinct was to side with Apocalypse at first. just based off of how long he's been around and his very I mean the very fact of matter is the guy is just obsessed with the idea of getting bigger and better frequently but I do think that when you combine the fact that Scarlet Witch has the dark hold inside of her now with the fact she's a sorcerer supreme and that she has it basically a council all of these other various powerful magic figures like Clea Strange it is a pretty it's it's she's she's outgunned in apocalypse in that regard when it comes to scale and power Apocalypse's powers are very

defined at times but I think that I think that she's she could overwhelm them I think it's whether or not are you getting Scarlet Witch at a dark period of her life or are you getting her now where she's like probably in her prime as a character well I would I would put it to you like this into that

um apocalypse is very very resilient and he's not afraid to take his time over things. Like you said, all he has to do is wait until the Scarlet Witch is in a bad period. He can do that easily. I would also say that at the moment Scarna Witch has all this shit going for her. She won't always have that. We know the way comics work. At some point, she will no longer be the Sorcerer Supreme.

She will no longer have all his other crap. She'll still have her chaos, magic, whatever, but the Sorcercero Supreme thing won't last forever. but Apocalypse will still be Apocalypse He'll still have that ill-defined Can do whatever he wants Technically Kind of power to him I feel like the long game

Gives it to Apocalypse We all know I'm all about that long game I don't know what that means But I'm gonna say it anyway You like that long It doesn't I like it pretty long, yeah All right so

John what are your thoughts and told Dylan given his argument I'd given mine what is yours yeah I'm sticking with my original thoughts like I think apocalypse obviously is very powerful and you know

Dylan brings up a lot of good points but I think in terms of just like power versus power Scarlet Witch has got this one like her hex abilities combined with her

like, you know, reality warping and then the power to, you know, just do whatever she wants, really, with all this magic stuff on top of it as well. Like, you know, as powerful as Apocalypse is, he ain't that powerful. So in my mind, there's only one winner here. I would like to add two more points. What are your points? If they may. number one apocalypse

has his children so you know Wanda has her children but Billy Kaplan and Tommy Kaplan are still around is it Kaplan

yeah remember those kids names are they her kids I mean are they yes are they I believe so oh

well she doesn't see him anymore um the other point is while she could go to space she wanted to. The other point is, as we covered, Scarna Witch might not be the best good person. Apocalypse is a pretty fucking good, bad person.

You think about a villain, Apocalypse is bang up there. But which would make it appropriate for him to win that side of it because he's very good at what he does. Whereas the Scarna witch seems to be pretty questionable when it comes to being a good person. as we've covered quite frequently. Well. Which I think works in their favour, though, doesn't it?

Because it just means that when Apocalypse fights dirty, then, you know, she's got no aversion to doing the exact same back at him. I would say Scarlet Witch was responsible for that weird bit where all of the heroes became villains and the villains became heroes. and that was garbage so I don't want her to win because of that all right well it sounds like we're going to take it to the wheel which we knew we're going to take it to the fucking wheel

yeah it's always taking it to the wheel it certainly is but hey weird face kids here with us again lucky us so is it one is it one for Apocalypse and two for Scarletowich it's two for Scarlet Witch and one for so Dylan if it lands on you then Apocalypse makes it to the final

mm-hmm And Dylan, you've had a lot of luck with the wheel over the last four episodes that we've done this. Not really. Gammon is not on this list. No, but you single-handedly pushed Power Girl to the finals on the DC side. She fell on the final. That was fun. She made it pretty damn far. And you also saw that the Joker, you also saw that the Joker didn't get out of the first round.

Well, he shouldn't have. Against Mr. Freeze, he should have. Like I said, that. That whole first round worked out that Joker could at least have gotten to the second round before he was completely overpowered. It's better this way. Trust me. Okay. Well, are you ready to spin the wheel to see who becomes the ultimate Marvel character? I suppose so.

All right, we spin it. Look at his head go. And it looks like the Scarlet Witch is going to come out ahead. And she makes it to the final round. to represent Marvel Comics I hope you're all very proud of yourselves so that brings us to our next

our next matchup is John Constantine versus the Parallax I am going to tell you I am of the opinion that this is a one-sided fight Parallax Parallax possesses people

who are at their lowest point John Constantine has never been at his lowest point point. At every available opportunity, where it seems like he's at the worst he could be, the fucker manages to come out ahead. Gets lung cancer, don't worry, I'll just manipulate these devils into me getting what I want anyway, which is curative cancer and still fucking alive. Oh, the devil's going to come after me in hell? That's fine. I'll just manipulate an angel into fucking a demon, and that way I can take his heart, and I'll be fine. There is no level that

seems like John Constantine feels fucking despair and depression. The guy's always fucking moving. And I think a lot of it has to do with getting rid of his childhood innocence at a young age. So I think that Parallax would be sitting around waiting for him to like dovetail into like loss and sorrow and regret. And I don't think it's going to happen. There are a couple other moments in the John Constantine research I was doing where I was like, okay, yeah, no, John is a bit of a cut. But there's a storyline where he has a friend who they're encountering these sort of demonic entities in the internet, essentially.

And his friend uses a spell to put his spirit into the internet or his computer or whatever. Because this was written in the early 90s where we didn't really know how computers and internet worked yet, apparently. And his body gets destroyed as a result of it. And he's like communicating to John going, hey, what's going on? to get back and John just very coldly unplugs the computer and traps his friend inside of it forever. The guy's an asshole. Simply put.

It's like, oh no, my friend, he's dead. Not fuck it. Don't need to worry about this anymore. I do not think that parallax could ever find him at a low point, is what I'm saying. Okay. I think whatever you say, this is really one-sided. Yes. That was not the one side that I thought you were going to go with.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, what are your thoughts, Dylan? I mean, you make a lot of good points. It's hard to say. I feel like Parallax as an entity is so powerful. And such a good character that I would have found it hard to bet against him here. So I would have automatically said Paralax.

But I didn't expect your. knowledge of John Constantine to be so thorough you know so I don't really know what does John think I think Corey's swayed me a little bit with his

reasoning but John Constantine because you know not only does he not have that like fear and despair that Parallax likes to pray on. But he is kind of

a moral character as well who's willing to do whatever it takes to win basically. So I don't know like is because we've had Constantine come up with against guys where

they've been sort of weak against magic I want to say is Parallax. like does he have any weakness towards magic like you know the cryptonians do well so here's the thing we're going to go with that argument then yes just based off the fact that the reason superman is susceptible to magic on is because he's not naturally of earth the parallax is not naturally of earth it is a cosmic entity that is basically the living embodiment of an emotion which in this case is

fear just so you know all of the other glantron cores have the these entities as well. Like the green lanterns, their entity is called ion, and it's a giant green whale, essentially. So they all have these sort of living embodiments. So parallax is one of a series.

And because he's not naturally of Earth, you have to assume that the same rule applies. Well, in that case, I mean, surely there's only one winner in this one. Arlux. I feel like if your whole gimmick is you feed on like fear and all that kind of crap, all that stuff,

you can, you would have the, and if you lived for centuries for eons and you've traveled through space and time and fucking galaxies, you would know how to draw that out of somebody. Just because all the people that John Constantine has come up against hasn't inspired or instilled fear under him doesn't mean that he's immune to fear he can still feel it and if he does feel it and this is the first time he does then he's fucked but I mean you're talking about a guy who regularly

encounters Lucifer I mean the first of the fallen is Lucifer like the biggest bad of all big bad bads and John like we say that all the time and like all in comics the devil is not the biggest bad. It's just not. It's just not. I don't think that that's, I'm not accepting that. So do with that what you will. So it's doing with that what I will sounds like going to the wheel is what I will do. Well, I guess we're going to have to spin the wheel again then.

We're going to spin the wheel once more. Spin that bloody wheel. All right. All right. So same rules apply. if it lands on Dylan, then Parallax will push past John Constantine to represent the DC Heroes and Villains. Oh, it's going to be close. Oh, it's so close, Dylan. Well, my God. Well, that does that then.

So, Parallax will push past Constantine to represent the DC villains and heroes. So now we have our final match. Representing Marvel Comics, we have the Scarlet Witch. Representing DC Comics, we have Paralyx. So I will say, once more, probably not the way anyone who did a Marvel versus DC tournament would probably have this go. Why not?

Why not? Oh, wow. So, yeah, that's, like I said, here's the thing. You know what I just said about John Constantine and his advantage over Parallax being that, like, there is no low point for Constantine to dwell or fall into. ain't gonna happen with Scarlet Witch because that's pretty much I've established in her greatest hits two moments where she was at her lowest

and did something fucked up Parallax had used to be sitting on the sidelines with his dick in his hand going guess she don't need me she's capable of fucking up everything by her own damn self Does Parallax have a dick? That's an interesting point

I don't know what the anatomy of a space bug that is the embodiment of fear would be this is something we need to look into all right will you look up maybe not that hard

I listen I think we need to look into this okay it's imperative of all three of us do a lot of extensive research into this space bug penis

so yeah to kind of the steer us back on course everything I just said about John Constantine exact opposite with Scarlow Witch as we pointed out

in her fight against Apocalypse, it ain't always going to be sunny days for her. John Constantine's a miserable son of a bitch, but it's a misery he is chosen for himself. He knows that there is no happy endings in the future for him. Scarlet Witch is not that way. She is very clearly a character who has hope and has, you know, a dream of a perfect life for herself one day that is not forever in debt to destruction, pain, and chaos. And I think that's all parallax would really need.

I think that if you had them face off with each other, I think she'd give it a valiant effort, but I think that Parallax could manipulate her, and then all of a sudden you got a new host that has the, is the living embodiment of fear, plus the dark hole, plus the sorcerer supreme all in one.

Right. Like, imagine how powerful Paralax would be if he took over his scar to witch. Like, he would have infinite possibilities, you know? I guess, but like, I don't know. I think Scarlet Witch has sort of hit rock bottom before, so there's nothing that Parallax could kind of do to kind of, you know, take a lower than that, really. But he doesn't have to.

All he has to do is take advantage of her in one of her low estates, and then he's in. He takes her over. I think, yeah, but he's come out of those, like, moments of despair stronger for it. So I think she's kind of almost like the perfect opponent to go up against the living embodiment of fear and anxiety and stuff because she's had to face that pretty much her whole life. And she's, you know, she's lost some battles, but then she's won a lot of them as well to be in the position that she's in today where she is, is like, uh,

a, uh, recognize as a heroic person and is carrying the title of sorcerer supreme and stuff. Like, she's taken the worst that life's thrown at her and it's not, not a down for the count, you know?

Well, I would argue the worst life is thorough at her has been taken over by a massive space bug. May or may not have a penis. you know what you mean? I was just a story on this. Whenever it seemed like it was going to be Scarnawitch versus Parallax, I'm like, well, because Scarnawitch has had such an issue with like mental instability.

And the thing about that is, like, that's, you know, that's a tough thing to try to unshake. You know, I feel like whenever people have kind of mental health issues, it's always there somewhere you always have it you know you can improve you can get better but like it doesn't really properly go away and i think all it takes is one one small step for something to just go wrong for scar to which and parlex is in there and that's it you know i do think another thing that goes in her favor is she did spend her entire life up and until the point where she absorbed Chawthon being essentially marked by him and being under his influence. A lot of those moments that we're talking about, like Avengers Disassembled and House of M,

are kind of retconned into being like, that's because that was Chothan's influence over her. That was the chaos that was basically inside of her coming out. So she's a character with some experience in handling that is what we're saying as well. So it's possible Parallax could get in, could he stay in? That doesn't matter. I feel like if he gets in, that's the game's over.

That's the end of the match. I don't know. He got him to Superman and Superman was able to force him out, force him into a ring and track him. Are you saying that Superman is Scarlet Witch of the same people? I'm saying Scarlet Witch could force him into one of her jazzy tiaras, and then there he go. I don't think it's possible.

And if we're going to play, with the same rules that we did with the Constantine fight, then we have to also assume that because Paralax is not naturally of Earth, he may have a weakness to magic. But see, that's the way. We don't know that. Yeah, we get a little weird when we have DC Magic versus Marvel Magic. DC Magic has that rule established.

We don't know that. Like, we can't debate a thing that we don't know. We can assume something, though, based on precedent. Oh, yeah, what if he gets water on it when he turns into a gremlin? We don't know if that. that happens, it probably goes. Is that a precedent in the DC Comics? It's the precedent

of some kind of media that I've seen. All right, well, Dylan is it, is it, well, I guess what it comes down to, Dylan is on the side of the parallax. John's on the side of the Scarlet Witch. I feel like, I feel like I'd give Scarlet Witch a puncher's chance,

even if she got possessed, I think she could still pull it out. I mean, Sorcerer's Supreme on top of the dark hold. This whole tournament feels like me versus John and Corey. Yeah, you and the wheel versus John and Corey. Let's put that out there too, sir. Like I said, two to one odds, two to one odds and you still keep winning.

I'm just going to say you need to start putting money on shit at this point. My partner in this is not a regular member of the podcast. At this point, at this point the wheels that's just as part. part of the podcast as we are. I didn't vote for that. I don't want to have to draw four people in the film. You can't put the wheel in every thumbnail now. Even when the wheel's not present, he's still there.

Where's Wheely? I didn't sign up for this. All right. Well, it sounds like we need to come up with it. We need to settle it once and for all. This is it. This is the big one. Scarlet Witchness is Parallax. If the wheel lands on me or John, then Scarlet, which wins and is thus the ultimate comic book character of all time. And if the wheel lands on Dylan, then it is the parallax. I just want to point out again, look how close that was.

That's crazy. Look how close that was. All right, here we go, guys. You beautiful, weird face. I'm fired if it lands on me. Are you fired if it lands on you? That's fine. Well, I'm safe.

It looks like Dylan is safe as it lands on John for our audio listeners, meaning that the Scarlet Witch has advanced to become the ultimate Marvel versus DC character. It's official. It's in the bracket. Our winner, Wanda Maximov, the Scarlet Witch. Boom.

All right, guys. That's that. That's been settled. The Scarlet Witch is the ultimate Marvel and DC comic book character of all time. Somewhere Steve Orlando is celebrating because it means that all of those mini-series he's been writing for the last five, six years have added up to something. What are our final... What are your final thoughts on what this process has been like, what the tournament's been like, etc.

Well, that's what I was going to say. My question for both of you is this. We happy with how this turned out. I mean... Really, are we happy with how this turned out? Not at all. Yeah. Yeah, I will say this.

So the wheel was my idea of adding to this. Because for me, the wheel was about, like, getting that real tournament feeling. Because there's always going to be upsets in a tournament. The problem was, I didn't consider how many upsets there could be in a tournament. And it feels like there were a lot of... Wall-to-wall upsets. Yeah. Yeah.

Very few legitimate walk-ins. It was merely like all upsets constantly. So, yeah, after coming to that conclusion, I'm like, okay, I don't want to say that we wasted our time. I don't think that's the correct way to praise. No, I don't think we wasted our time. No, I don't think it was a waste of time. It was a questionable. It was what?

We wasted everyone else's time. Listen to this. And in that respect, it was a perfect smart avenger show. It really was in that sense, yeah. Like, I feel like any other comic book podcast, there'd have been like a serious conversation with serious debates and all facts and figures and whatnot. And for us, we introduced just enough chaos to completely fuck the whole thing up. Yes. Chaos.

Sorry, I'm brand. Yep. And it makes sense if it's all chaos that the Scarlet Witch wins. We were playing right into her fucking hand the whole time. Yep. So in a way, it's very appropriate. It is. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, I would agree with that in that I feel like in a way,

oops, in a way, it couldn't have been any different. You know, we really, we made it a real smart Avengers podcast. Nobody else would have done this. We did. We fucking nailed it in our own weird way. So in a very strange way, I'm very happy with what we were able to accomplish. because we're literally the only people that could ever have come up with this solution. So, yeah. How long has this taken as well? Like, it feels like five months or something.

It has been that long. We have been doing this for a good bit. Like I said, I believe there are nine, I want to say nine episodes of the show has been dedicated to this tournament. Because if you think of it, we had the episodes where we were coming up with the participants. And then we had the episode where we were putting the... Hold on. Actually, let me...

Let me actually... I can tell you how many episodes there have been. Oh, boy. All right. I'm going all the way into our archive at this point. We started this episode... Let's see. It's that far back.

episode so this was volume for episode 32 so this is before we started renumbering and that episode came out in October 3rd which means we probably recorded it in September in September, early September late August probably

so yeah that was now it's February now it's well when this comes out it's going to be March that's true So we had that episode where we had one episode where we just picked the Marvel Heroes. We had an episode where we picked the Marvel villains, an episode where we picked the DC Heroes, an episode we picked the DC Villains. We then did our Bracketology episode, which is episode 101, so that's episode 5.

And then we did Hero Bracket, Villain, Bracket, DC Hero Villain, Bricot, D.C. Hero, Villain, DC villain bracket That's nine Is episode 10 We did 10 episodes Dedicated to this We did 10 episodes And this is what we came up with

Yep we did 10 episodes Oh no I can tell you I am a different person today Than I was when I did episode one. Okay, okay, let's look at, let's have another question here.

If we were to do this again, would you change anything that happened? Would you have been more respectful of going to the wheel? Would you have completely removed the wheel and just gone with majority vote? I think all of us would have put Spider-Man ahead of Government America. I still, I, oh, geez. John, this is how it started.

This is how it started. I think we started off on the wrong foot and we just kept walking around with different shoes on and thought, we'll just style it out and no one will notice. Everybody noticed. Everybody noticed. They were yelling at us. Like, you got your feet on backwards.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. This is fine. If we just keep going, no one will notice. And I feel like right off the bat, we fucked it up. so I would I would say maybe less upfucking

that's my criticism I would say I like the upfucking I think the element of chaos to everything made it you know unpredictable

which is not a bad thing I think maybe we could like streamline things just jump straight into a tournament rather than like you know

trying to pick who's in it. Like maybe we could do that bit off camera and then jump into the tournament and then just do like, like bring it down to five episodes rather than 10. If there's a day where like I kind of would like to just do this like in a day where I knew that I had nothing to do. I would actually like to watch all 10 of those episodes or listen to all 10 of those episodes in sequential order to like see if there's a point where it broke. Like, what point is like the point where you go, that's where it fucked up?

And I know I had, I know the easy answer is to say by introducing the wheel as a concept to this. But I feel like, I don't know. I just remember there was a lot of, there was a lot of interesting debate because there's a part of me that was like, I don't even know if I want to put parallax up for vote in this. Because I mean, like we were talking about like no big like we like we didn't put Galactus in the Marvel side. like that felt like it was too big like was parallax in that same vote Parallax been too big I think if you went back and looked at all of it

one of the big parts to be fucked up on was not putting Sonic the Hedgehog in Like you, you were gonna say it And wasn't I proven correct? Yes, I was I knew you were gonna say it in hindsight wasn't I correct Oh well

Yeah See? I'm not hearing anybody to say that it wasn't correct. Wouldn't have changed things if Sonic the Hedrog was in it. Yes, it would have. Well, in the future, we will take that in consideration if we ever revisit the idea of doing a Marvel versus DC bracket. In case it may be because it's an annual thing that we do every March or whatever

this episode comes out. Who knows? Hmm. Okay. Anyway. John, from what I understand, you had time to watch a movie today. if you accomplish that, what is your movie total at for the year?

I actually had time to watch three movies today, but my total is now at 179. I will tell you, John. The year, not for the day. I don't watch three movies in a month. I don't know if I have ever been movies. Oh, what? Space John.

Guys are missing out. What were the three movies? So I watched an Irish drama called God's Creatures, which had Emily Watson and Paul Muscal in, which is pretty decent. Then I watched a movie called Boxcar Bertha, which was actually Martin Scorsese's second ever movie that he directed. Not that you could really tell from the movie itself, because it was produced by Roger Corman, and it had more of his hallmarks than it did.

God bless you. Scorsese. And then the last movie I watched was the 1990 Handmaid's Tale with Robert Duvalin, which, yeah. again it wasn't great like especially now when you can compare it to like the TV series that came out the adaptation of the Hamay's Tale

but it you know it was fine so John where can they go to hear your thoughts and your ratings for those movies they can head to letterboxed and find me at Big John Bowsky Owen Wood and Dylan what have you been up to you lately

a lot of sleeping. That's good. It's been so good. I was really sick last week. I didn't get any sleep. And in the last couple of days, all the sleeps I've had have been so nice. You know,

I really enjoyed that, man. I feel like I could just go to sleep forever. I would like that a lot. Well, unfortunately, I have to wake up. But when I'm not... doing stuff like this or sleeping. I do a radio show every Monday night on Barnes Digital Radio.

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channel and you'll get them as I put them out until then though we'll see you guys later goodbye goodbye bye bye bye bye that was the Scarto witch yep yep