The Smark Avengers - Too Many Ads, Not Enough Wrestling — WrestleMania 2026 Review

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

WrestleMania is supposed to be the biggest night in wrestling… so why did it feel like there was more advertising than action? In this year’s wrestling-themed episode, Corey, Dylan, and Jon break ...down WrestleMania 2026 — covering the matches, standout moments, and the decisions that left them scratching their heads. 💥 In this episode: Full WrestleMania 2026 match breakdowns What worked — and what absolutely didn’t Why so many matches felt shorter than expected The overwhelming presence of ads and sponsorships The crowd reactions, surprises, and missed opportunities Just how over Danhausen was during the event From high points to frustrating choices, the guys dig into whether this year’s WrestleMania delivered on the hype or fell short of expectations. Was this a great show buried under bad pacing? Or a sign of a bigger problem with modern WWE events? 💬 Join the discussion: What did you think of WrestleMania 2026? Did the ads hurt the show for you? 👍 Like the video if you enjoy wrestling recaps and debates 🔔 Subscribe for more comic book podcasts, wrestling specials, and weekly discussions Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f

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Starting point is 00:00:06 I'm a real con. Some would say. There you go. We put the reading rainbow noise there. And that'll confuse everybody. No, if you're in, the Americans will get the reading rainbow reference. You guys had a reading rainbow, right?
Starting point is 00:00:20 No, but we've seen enough of the media to understand that it's stupid of our Burton. Sure. Yeah, we're best friends. Yeah, you know, Jory LaForge, Kinta Kintay. We go bowling all the time. I can go anywhere. We're not going to finish. a song we don't have to look it's in a book
Starting point is 00:00:39 uh reading rainbow yeah i see i figured it out yeah hi everybody welcome spark avengers me was cori and with me's dill and john how's it going guys i really want to know how much of that's going to stay in it's hard to
Starting point is 00:00:53 it could just be like just the start of the show as you saying that of me saying how much it's being none of it I don't know the people like what did it was it bad It was, yeah, technically. In a matter of speaking, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Ah, well. So, how's it going, guys? Hi. Yeah. Good, good, good. Good. So, welcome to the show, everybody. As you know, it's a bit of an annual tradition for us here to talk about a non-comic book-related
Starting point is 00:01:30 thing entirely at least once a year. So I guess it would make. the most sense now to explain the name after 122 episodes if we haven't already done it previously. Dylan, would you like to explain the context for the Smark Avengers? If not, I'm sure John will pick up the ball. Sure. I like how you're like, we're probably going to explain this for the first time. I would argue there's probably been two, at least two other times.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I like to think so, but I can't save for 100% certainty if we did or did not. Well, the fun thing about that is, if you're not a wrestling fan already, and then you've already ignored the previous two WrestleMania shows where we explained the title and therefore we'll probably skip this one as well and remain blissfully ignorant as to what the title of the show the name of the show actually is but we call ourselves a smart Avengers
Starting point is 00:02:23 because the Dark Avengers were a thing back in the day at some point and 2008-2009 probably ish that sounds about right that sounds about right and um in pro wrestling
Starting point is 00:02:39 a smark is like a smart mark uh which is supposedly like a fan that understands a business but it's still kind of like following it a mark is just a unwilling of participant somebody who's fallen into the
Starting point is 00:02:54 umbrella of entertainment and watches the show thinking that it is 100% real a smark is somebody that knows it's not real but is also still enthralled by it somehow. So the idea of a smart mark is like smart marks consider themselves to be smarter than marks. They're not really.
Starting point is 00:03:14 We're all still like idiots. We don't know the business, you know. So it's that nicely. Huh? That sums us up nicely. Yeah. Much idiots. So it was just to play on words
Starting point is 00:03:29 because we're all pro wrestling fans We're also comic fans. And that was it. Yep. Also, because we were like, what's the name of the show? We didn't want to spend fucking forever coming up with it. Yeah. We found a name that nobody else was using and we went for it.
Starting point is 00:03:45 After an explanation like that, I think it's easy to understand why no one else is using it. Yeah. They're cowards. Yeah, that's true. It is a very twofold name because we're not in the comic book industry, yet we talk as if we have very serious opinions on it. Like we have some level of, you know, aside from being the creators of the smash hit character, baby juggernaut. You know, we've not really done too much to the comic industry.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Right. So we're smarts in terms of comics as well. Except we are apparently the forefront of reviews for Maid Cafe. Learn that today. Yeah. So if you guys like Mead Cafe or Rossi and I guess. If you just want to know more about Made Cafe because nobody else is talking about it, check us out
Starting point is 00:04:31 yeah not today's episode obviously no this is a part of WrestleMania yes it is our annual review
Starting point is 00:04:39 of WrestleMania so first and foremost Dylan and John you watched it I did not which is in line with the previous two episodes where we talked
Starting point is 00:04:49 about WrestleMania where I hadn't watched it obviously if you know if you know what's going on in the world of professional wrestling you understand that
Starting point is 00:04:58 it's a very different beast this year than it has been in years past what with the ownership of TKO of the WB and some of their decision making that they've done mainly in the realm of advertising and what have you cat cam so yeah no he's uh it it looks different than normal from what i have gathered the old russomania uh i mean In terms of the advertising, they have had adverts in the ring for a couple of years now. I don't think that that really is any different. And a lot of it played out like a restomani that you've kind of seen before. They were very, very heavy on, hey, we're back from a match. Here's three random people in the audience you've never heard of before. unless you really like sports in America.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yep. You know, like that happened. I feel like that happened more this year than it has ever happened. It was always like, oh, this is this football player, and this is this guy, and this is this guy. Nice to see you. I'm like, it's not nice to see him.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I don't, nobody cares. Who cares that they're at rest of media, you know? Yeah. There's lots of commercial breaks as well. Like, I mean, I think maybe part of it was because I believe the first hour of each night of WrestleMania was being broadcast on ESPN So I guess they had to sort of accommodate that
Starting point is 00:06:36 And include more commercial breaks But it felt like they were just Throughout the entire show Not just the first hour And it just kind of Kills the momentum a little bit Like You know, you don't pay for a pay-per-view
Starting point is 00:06:53 Or whatever to watch commercials, do you? Well, the thing that killed the momentum for me was that all of the commercials were for some fucking Hulk Hogan thing. Like, they were relentless. It was relentless. Like, do you like Hulk Hogan? You gotta watch the show. Here's Hulk Hogan.
Starting point is 00:07:10 It's interesting that he kind of became persona non-grata for several years. And now they're heavily promoting the fucker after his death. Very strange. Because nobody gets a weird way. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Look, we didn't care. they were like
Starting point is 00:07:28 can you like not talk about Hulk Hogan right now I was trying to watch some good wrestling which you know it's debatable
Starting point is 00:07:36 whether or not that happened but yeah there were a lot of adverts which was quite frustrating we also noticed that
Starting point is 00:07:45 there weren't a whole lot of video packages and again maybe they were playing them a different audience while we watched loads of adverts
Starting point is 00:07:53 for some Hulk Hogan bullshit but for like most of the matches there weren't really any like good hype video packages that explained a lot of the storylines except for the main event
Starting point is 00:08:05 which is ironic because the main event is what everybody wanted to see anyway they didn't need to explain that we knew why we were all there and then they did they put a video package out to explain it and it was fucking great you watch they go this is exactly what we're all watching wrestling media for
Starting point is 00:08:21 this fucking match right here you know if they were like hyping it up. They needed to hype up all the other ones, in my opinion. Some of those matches were pretty tough to give a shit about. Especially night one, which I feel like is probably going to be where we're going to start. We're going to start with night one. John, do you have a list of matches? Yeah, I've got finalist to the match. I got to. I feel like it's the person who didn't contribute in watching this, I can at least contribute by cueing up the discussion points if that works for you guys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah. So, all right. So very first and foremost, we had a pre-show panel with Joe Tessititory, Biggie, Corey Graves, and Wade Barrett. Sure, we did. Three guys that were forced into retirement and then a guy I've never heard of before. He is good to be funny. He's a commentator, right? Testory.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. Yeah. He's done pretty well. Also, the host of us. mean he was John Sina, which usually amounts to next to nothing. You will have to tell me if that matters or not. I know that the opinion on that was it was too soon after his retirement to bring him back out in front of cameras. They should have waited longer, so that would have meant more when he did come back.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I don't think that matters at all. No, he basically didn't really contribute anything to the show. He came out and introduced at both nights, didn't really say a whole lot of anything. and the first night he came back out a second time to announce the attendance and then it was more about Bianca Bel Air returning to announce her pregnancy and then the second night was more about the skit with like Danhausen and Miz and stuff fair enough I will say um I they were not to immediately get out of order I did see someone's a bleacher report or someone throw like letter grades on
Starting point is 00:10:22 on the WrestleMania segments and stuff and they gave the pregnancy announcement for Bianca Belera C-plus and I just thought that was a really funny thing to rate. Woman comes out to announce that she's having her first child. Ah, C-plus.
Starting point is 00:10:37 What would an A-plus have been? She just gave birth in the ring. I don't know what they want. All right. Well, our opening contest was between the teams of L.A. Knight and the Uso's against the Vision, who are the current tag team champions, and I Show Speed, who is a YouTuber. Thoughts on that.
Starting point is 00:11:01 By all means, we do have two nights, so if we could try to keep it breezy until we get to the important stuff, by all means. Corey, I have some good news for you. A, it's going to be really easy to keep this breezy, and B, the important stuff is like one match. This might It was okay It was really short
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah It's basically like a match That you'd see on Roar Rather than WrestleMania There wasn't a whole lot to it I guess they did the They did the post-match angle thing With
Starting point is 00:11:38 Shows to be doing the splash off the corner Through the table Yep Which I guess was supposed to be their big Sort of like Viral moment Like stick it on
Starting point is 00:11:52 you know, whatever and social media and get like views and stuff. But anyone else it's like, I don't care. I mean, it was a nice splash. Yeah, the I show speed kid, everything I've seen, he does strike me as a very athletic individual, kind of in that Logan Paul school
Starting point is 00:12:09 of like, kind of an annoying twit, but he's got some good, he's got some good skills. But so essentially what happened, we had L.A. Knight hitting the BFT, which stands for big, freaking toes on Austin theory to secure the victory. Yeah. I mean, who cares?
Starting point is 00:12:28 Right? Yeah. Like this match was just really just it was you know when those celebrity matches were like a celebrity does a suplex and you go, wow, this guy can wrestle. It was one of those were like, I show speed, we'd get in the ring
Starting point is 00:12:44 and then he'd do like a head scissors or whatever. People were like, wow, he can do that. But like he wasn't wrestling. He was doing like a couple of moves. To be a fair, he looked good. He was reacting well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't embarrass himself. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:12:59 But also, he didn't do it where you're like, you got to see this kid. You know, whereas when he'll look at all, you're like, he gotta see this. Mm-hmm. So, like that open a match was fine. It was short. It was just whatever. Like John said, if you had a son-in-lawed on Raw or Smackdine, you would have been like, yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:13:17 This was on wrestling. Yeah. So up next, we have Jacob Fats. versus Drew McIntyre in an unsanctioned match. If it's unsanctioned, don't know why we're talking about it because it shouldn't have been talked about. But we saw Fatu pick up the victory with a double jump moon salt through a table to beat McIntyre.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Thoughts on that. It was good. Not long at the first match. Yeah, yeah. I think it probably was, to be fair. But I don't think it was good. it was good, but it wasn't great. It was one of those sort of hardcore matches that felt a bit like
Starting point is 00:13:58 by the books. It was a bit tame. There wasn't, considering the buildup featured them like fighting all over arenas and then falling off the side of buildings and stuff like that, this didn't feel like it kind of, you know, played on that at all.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It just felt a bit safe for an unsanctioned, match. Especially whenever, you know, we remember that hell and a cell match, Drew did with same punk. And obviously, they're not going to come to the same levels. But, like, never the second match on the card. Yeah. You know Drew can do some, like, crazy shit if he wants to.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And, you know, with an unsanctioned match, whatever, you kind of are like, well, they need to be go a little extra mile here. And they just had a couple of tables and chairs and shit. Yeah, toolbox. Yeah. Cool. you know i guess the important thing was just more the result than anything else like given jacob fatu that big win on the big stage and if you saw raw uh the following night as well he's like
Starting point is 00:15:04 in position already as like a future challenger for roman reign so yeah in that sense it did what it needed to do i guess spoilers for later on the show oh oops no All right. After that, we had the irresistible forces, the team of Nia Jackson Last Legend, defending the women's tag team titles in a fatal four-way against Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss, Bailey and Lira Valkyria, and the Bella Twins. However, when the Bellas came out, Nikki was on crutches announced that the returning page was going to be her replacement. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:42 The ending saw Nikki hitting Charlotte Flair with a crutch, page countering a maneuver to hit the rampage to become the new champions. So that sounds like a heelish way to pick up a win. I don't know. Well, the bellows were kind of healy anyway. But then when they came out in a G's page, it was like, well, that's a good, feel good moment. It was a nice pop. It was nice to see her.
Starting point is 00:16:11 She looked good. That match was a mess. Sounds like it would be. I have not heard anybody else talking about how that match was a mess. That match was a mess. in that a lot of the time I didn't know what was going on or who was supposed to be in the ring
Starting point is 00:16:26 right at the top of the match they were like listen to women two teams are allowed in the ring at one time that's it right no no they said a member of each team had to be in the ring at all times but they weren't there wasn't like all four were in the ring all the time
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'm pretty sure it was I don't know man that's what I mean it was so hard to know what was going on like it was a mess and it was all over the place The Wikipedia article has nothing stating the rules of that match, by the way. I knew what the rules were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 That's what you mean? I don't know. It was a lot. The match was all about Page getting the hot tag and then coming in and having her run towards the title. And that was about it, really. Like, everything before that was, it was fine. But it was, like you say, a bit messy, a bit too chaotic. I'll be honest
Starting point is 00:17:20 I was a bit worried as well when she got that hot tag and comes into the ring for the first time and the very first person she interacts with considering all of her injuries and like
Starting point is 00:17:32 you know bad neck and all that kind of stuff is Nia Jacks it's like oh God don't injure her already but no she she looked good
Starting point is 00:17:44 and she came out flying colours so yeah all right And also, like, um, continues a trend where Paige has a habit of win in the title on her debut. She has a tendency to do in that, yeah. Yeah, which is quite sweet. It was a nice, fun, feel-good moment.
Starting point is 00:18:01 That match was also quite short. Like, again, we do a load of stuff in to, like, whatever time they had. I understand it was to build up to Paige and her hot tag and stuff, but. I saw, I don't know. I saw something that they were teasing a bill. up to a women's eight-person tag between the Bella's page and I think maybe Natalie Nighthart or yeah, Natalia and against Charlotte, Becky Bailey and a fourth person probably Alexa Bliss.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I don't know how that would come by. It was a picture that they posted of the Bellas and Page and I believe Natty doing the four horsewoman will pose. I think it was A.J. Lee, he was in that. AJ Lee, there you are. I was waiting. That fourth person didn't sound right. So yeah, that and then contrasted to that being the other,
Starting point is 00:19:06 I think it was Bailey and Charlotte reacting to that image. So it might just be like an online build kind of deal. Yeah. I think that's some online just made up bullshit. Because they did that because those four women were like there before the four horsewoman. more. Yeah. That's the guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It seems like it was prodding at that kind of deal. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:19:26 yeah. Regardless, up next, AJ lead, speak of the devil, and she shall appear, defending the women's intercontinental title against Becky Lynch. Yes. Ending saw Becky Lynch hitting the manhandle slam to become the three-time women's intercontinental champion. Thoughts on that one.
Starting point is 00:19:43 This match was also quite short, and was also like really one-sided for some reason. It was all, like a lot It was just all Becky, like a lot of it And then she wins and you're like, oh Okay, interesting way to do that
Starting point is 00:19:59 I don't know if there's much more to say with that much I mean, I thought the match they had Elimination Chamber was way better than this one But I guess stuff at the end with the referee Jessica Carr and everything kind of plays on A dusty finish. Yeah, I mean, Becky's had issues, like, complaining about the referee for months and months at this point. So it felt like, you know, continuity at least.
Starting point is 00:20:31 We're given points for that. Not a whole lot of points. That's your country woman, Dylan. I thought you'd be happier. I'm just saying the match wasn't, like John said, they already had a match. It was way better. Yeah, I've learned over the last few years that WrestleMania isn't really the show where story lines end these days.
Starting point is 00:20:50 It seems to be most of the time they kind of get to like a halfway point there at best. Up next, we have Gunther versus Seth Rollins. And again, the match saw Braun Breaker make his return costing
Starting point is 00:21:06 Seth the win against Goethe. This much was good. I feel like they were starting to get into like a good gear whenever they did end the match. I'm like, that's a shame.
Starting point is 00:21:22 That one, you know, if the other matches were so short because they were going to give this match in the main event some more time, fair enough, then they kind of like got this one off at the wrong time as well. I'm like, well, that's a shame. You know what you mean? Like it was building up.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I'm like, okay, we're getting somewhere. And then it ended. Yeah, yeah. It was good. I mean, I would probably say it was the best match of night one. one. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:49 You'd say that was a better match than Rhodes versus Orton. Oh, yeah, we'll get to that. All right. In the penultimate match, we had Stephanie Vakor defending the women's world championship against Liv Morgan. The ending came with Morgan hitting the oblivion to become a three-time women's world champion. Thoughts on that. This match was also quite short.
Starting point is 00:22:16 This was the theme. strangely, oh my God, the fucking Liv Morgan song. Oh, her pop song that I keep seeing reference, but I've never took the time to listen to. Dylan, as someone who plays radio, plays radio, how many hours have you dedicated to playing that one? Has it made the rotation to your show yet? I haven't had a chance.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I was away the Monday after Reston Media, so I have not had a chance to play any of the Morgan song on the show yet. so but it's on it's it's on it's on it's on the queue um no yeah better like next time it's not uh that fuck she comes out to like a song and dance lip sync thing where he pretends to sing her song and that sucked yeah oh i mean i would say it's way better than her previously music at least i give it that much There you go. Why did she have a song?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Trying to branch out into the industry. As often as she's getting injured lately, I don't think she's got a much longer tenure in the company. She's already the champion. I don't know what the fuck else. Well, that's exactly. That's why she's branched out. She's been the champion three times now. Why not pursue a pop music career?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Because maybe she's not good at it. Hey, you never know until you try. But yeah, no, any thoughts on this aside from just that was short? not really and that's our review it was also short what do you think i heard i heard the reason why they kept this one short specifically was because both uh yeah live and stephanie were a little banged up going into it i mean even though it was like a concussion protocols like a week ago yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:24:14 even though it was short like it it did what it needed to do again like uh can't really fault the storytelling. It's just in terms of WrestleMania and like big marquee matches that have the fans on the edge of the seat, it's, yeah, a bit lacking. I think before we get to the main event,
Starting point is 00:24:39 the main event we're going to talk about for sure. But up to that point, if you had to put all that on SmackDown, nobody would have, like, that would have been totally fine. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even Gunther versus Rawlings, like, well, maybe that was kind of like a decent, but, like, that would have been a good Smackdown mean event. Seriously, but like, like, all the rest of it, you're like, this is just like,
Starting point is 00:25:08 SmackDown or Raw levels of, like, matches. Like, you could see all of those matches on a Rawr or Smackdown, you know? That was a little, that was a little disappointing. You would think if the show was going to go four hours. you have seven matches some of them could go longer than 10 minutes yeah
Starting point is 00:25:27 like four of them didn't like what the fuck I think I saw there's like about an hour and a half of wrestling in a four hour broadcast for night one I think that's I think that's on average for a two hour episode of raw
Starting point is 00:25:42 having maybe you know 15 minutes of wrestling which is about normal for them these days right but maybe if it's wrestling mania And people are paying obscene amounts of money for these fucking tickets. Nah, people need for the entrances and to sing along to the themes. Well, they couldn't sing along to the Liv Morgan's song because you didn't know what the fuck it was.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It came out earlier in the week. They had days, days, Dylan, to memorize all the lyrics to this brand new pop song that's lighting up the charts across the nation. Do you know the words? I haven't even heard the damn thing. I will say that it does remind me of a couple of years. years ago, Chris Jericho was bragging that his band had like a top, like a chart topping song. But like the chart he was referencing was like top songs played at strip clubs.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And I was like, weird that you left that part off, but okay. I mean, you know, what what what a better, what would a better Jericho stat to throw out there at the end of the day, right? like he technically told the truth he just kept out enough information that makes it less impressive is that a good song to strip to you i think it was their cover of sOS by abba it might have been it might have been oh oh dear that's what the world really needed was like fucking legendary pop stars aba being covered by jericho's fuck i fuck ass band club in a strip club anyway yes so up next after uh live morgan becoming a three-time women's world champion we had the previously mentioned announcement that bianca bellair uh was expecting her
Starting point is 00:27:28 first child um which from all accounts she could have done a better job at apparently according to no i well according to bleacher report or c plus you know i mean i would argue if you're going to announce your pregnancy it's hard to find a bigger platform than WrestleMania. Yeah. They did pretty good with that. I don't think they should have up the attendance
Starting point is 00:27:53 count, though, by one. Yeah. That was a bit. It was a bit silly. Yeah, I don't know if the baby actually was in attendance. Yeah. So up next, we have the
Starting point is 00:28:05 previously teased main event, Cody Rhodes, defending the undisputed AWB championship against Randy Orton, accompanied by former Indianapolis Colts great, Pat McCaffee or McAfee. Let's say McAfee for the sake of continuity. McCaffee.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Okay. Yeah, no. This one was one of those. I can just briefly say that I think this was this match that on paper did not need any bells or whistles of a simple story of 20 years of a guy being mentored by someone who stabbed him in the back to show he still had it in him to be a great. You don't have to really do too much with it. But got to get those celebrities and expand a new market. So we had to throw jelly roll and Pat McAfee into a storyline that didn't need him. You guys take it from here.
Starting point is 00:29:04 John, you want to start? Oh, boy. I mean... Don't get your opinions on this. Well, okay. Like, let's face it. They did not need Pat McAfee or Jellyroll involved in this at all. It would have been a way better story if it had just focused on the history of Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes. But, you know, I'll give them a tiny bit of credit because it seemed like they realized no one really wanted to watch Pat McAfee or Jelly Roll. So they sort of rushed through like getting rid of McAfee quite quickly in the match.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Right at the beginning. Yeah, yeah. gets like what happened again? Oh, he got splashed through the announced table by Jellyroll. So then, okay, good, he's gone. We can concentrate now on Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes. Can I just say real quick, right? I want to just interject this.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Where the fuck did Jelly Roll come from? Yeah. Like he was just, like, not even like at ringside. He was inside the ring barrier. He was like, he wasn't in the audience. at all. They never showed him just at some point Cody Rhodes turns around and jelly roll's like
Starting point is 00:30:19 yeah fuck you McAfee and he's like right beside him like security? What the fuck? Why did you let this guy in? What are you doing? I thought that was quite like they didn't even like you know sometimes they do a bit where like they see Jollyroll in the cry like come on shit. Yeah no just Jollyroll was there and he hit an elbow and then fucked off again what the fuck? Where did he go? Where did he come from?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Very confusing. Yeah. Well, the whole thing was very confusing. The way that the match played out, well, like, the bill to it was all about Cody giving Randy Orton permission to become the Viper, the apex predator again, to be evil Randy who kind of terrorized WWE back in 2009 or whatever. And instead, Randy Orton comes in and he's like, immediately
Starting point is 00:31:13 selling a back injury, fighting from underneath through the whole match. He's the one you know, taken a beat in and Cody is the one who's kind of
Starting point is 00:31:26 coming across more heelish and more like the Apex Predator than Randy. So it's like, well, this feels so backwards right now.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It doesn't feel like the match we're seeing matches the story they were trying to tell before all this. The explanation that I saw someone make about that, John, was that for weeks. Cody was getting repeatedly told, you don't have it in you to be a, to be a monster like Randy.
Starting point is 00:31:54 You don't have it in you to be a threat. You don't have it in you to be that violent. So, like, that was the idea of, like, Cody showing that, you know, he could be a dick. I don't know. That was the explanation someone said, because, I mean, for weeks, that's nothing but people were fucking harping on him about. Up until the last two weeks of the build where Pat McCaffey came out, talking about wanting to bring back the attitude era for some reason, despite the fact Randy Orton wasn't even in the attitude era as well.
Starting point is 00:32:21 If that was the story, then, you know, commentary should have done a better job of, you know, putting that out there, but they didn't. I will also say, for the first half of the match, Randy Orton was selling a back injury. And that didn't really come into play with the second half of the match. Yeah. Young bucks, man. They felt like that was going to be the main draw of the story. And Orden was selling his back a lot in the first half
Starting point is 00:32:51 and did not really sell his bag or seemed that concerned about his bag for the rest of it. I will say it picked up a bit in the second half because the first half was kind of boring. It was just a bit too slow-paced and methodical. But at least things got a bit more exciting as it went on until Pat McAfee comes back out again.
Starting point is 00:33:16 So that was really weird as well. He slides into the ring, dressed in a referee shirt to count the three for his guy that he says he wants to kind of take us back to the good times. But his count is so slow.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So, like not even like a regular kind. He does the slowest kind in the world. It's so funny. to milk the drama. It's so strange. It's such a slow-counter. And I don't think he needed to do slow-count
Starting point is 00:33:48 because the ramp was so long. Cody Rhodes had enough time to be able to kick out. Yeah. Without the slow count. But yeah, like John said, he's supposed to be representing his guy here and he's supposed to be like helping him cheat.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And he just comes out and does the slowest fucking count in the world. Which maybe explains what happened after that. Yeah, with Randy just RKOing him out of nowhere. Like immediately after that, they get up to gang up on Cody Rhodes, because the real referee is still down. They get up to beat up Cody Rhodes, and then Orden immediately RKO's at McAfee.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And then Cody recovers and hits his finish, and that's the end of the match. Yep. They're like, oh, okay. Then there was some post-match shenanigans with, Orton getting the final say in it? Yeah, I kicked a Saturday.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, but then Cody was back on Raw, which kind of diminished because I remember the punt was like, we need to write somebody off TV for months, if not permanently. So have him Randy, Orton, kick him in the head. So age has made Orton's kick a little as potent is what we've learned.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I mean, I will say Cody's you know, bruised and mangled eye does Yeah, sort of sell it is pretty deadly still. But like he got busted open before that. Like, Orden busted him open, like, legit. Wanted him in the head.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah, they should have held Cody off TV for at least a week, if not more. That would be great because, like you said, his fucking face did not look good. But I thought, okay, here's the thing, right, about that match. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it. I think, yeah, the beginning was a bit slow. A lot of Cody Rhodes around the Orton matches are slow. Yeah, I was about to say, like, people were wanting vintage Randy Orton.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Randy was a slow wrestler. I mean, the rest holds were kind of, restholds were kind of, restholds were kind of, Resthold Randy was the thing people talked about back in the day. Like, that was fine. I get that, like, the back injury thing was kind of jarring. It was. But at least they had some sort of story they were telling if it didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I thought by the time, like it did start to pick up in the second half of the match. And I was like, okay, this is actually getting really good. So I didn't hate any of that. I agree that the finish was pretty stupid. I think that that's what a lot of people are complaining about in that we had weeks of this really disappointing Pat McAfee reveal. Everybody is kind of like, well,
Starting point is 00:36:30 hopefully it'll pay off at WrestleMania. And not only did it not pay off at WrestleMania, but like, Reyes further questions, which I have a feeling will not get answered because Pat McAvey said if Ford and loses, he'll never be seen on WWB television again. So we're not going to get an answer to this. And it seems a little bit reminiscent of last year
Starting point is 00:36:51 where we had a lot of quick decisions that got people talking but didn't really lead to anything. That's quite disappointing. But I didn't mind the match, honestly. I mean, it wasn't great. It wasn't awful either. I'll give them that much. Just the whole thing felt a bit confusing in terms of what kind of story they were trying to tell here.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah. So that's pretty much night one in a nutshell. Very confusing being an event and six matches that could have been on Raw. Yeah. Yep. Oh, and fucking a billion adverts for Hulk Hogan. Yeah, yeah. You're talking about all these matches being short.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I think maybe that was the reasoning being is that we had to make room for the Hogan announcement. Or the Hogan commercials. they didn't they didn't need to they definitely didn't need oh absolutely they needed to iconic the immortal holcogen big old racist anyway we don't let shit so night two night two we had another pre-show panel with the same people from the last time john cina was still hosting he opened the show like he did the last time as well but our first match was obafemi versus is Brock Lesner, with the ending being Obafemi hitting the fall from grace to emphatically defeat Lesner, according to Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Afterwards, a emotional Lesnar remained in the ring, removed his gloves and his boots, hugged Paul Heyman, and looked obviously emotional. Yes. Teasing retirement. Yes. Thoughts. This match was also short. Didn't need me.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I kind of get it. Lesner, you know, he's not paid by they are. No. He just goes out and does his bit and like, that's enough. I think like it wouldn't have hurt to do a little bit more for Oba family. Like obviously him beating Brock Lesnar was pretty good. But like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:56 Lesnar is a guy that beat the media. Pretty, you know, decisively. And then like it's like one power. on from this guy does it like does that super duper set over like high powerful and strong over family or is it just kind of like lesnar couldn't be ours sticking out there for like seven minutes you know i mean if anything i mean lesnar you know kind of made it his reputation to be the guy that ended people quick you know like the co like the john sina summer slam match from years ago where he just annihilated him out of nowhere stunned people did the same we
Starting point is 00:39:37 he defeated cofi to win the title you know so for him to kind of get a taste of his own medicine you know that was kind of a big deal but makes up with him like a beast i get it like i know that like that's just not going to go that long anymore he just doesn't um i would have liked that to go a little bit longer again i'm not asking for like a 20 minute fucking Technical submission match But like another minute or two Would have been great Because it was fun
Starting point is 00:40:07 That was a fun match Yeah yeah yeah Two of them just Throwing each other around And beating the shit out of each other Yeah That's like exactly what it needed to be I guess
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah it was And I mean the way I saw it was Him Beating Brock With just one finishing move as well Like a lot of times in Brock Lesnar matches,
Starting point is 00:40:33 they kind of overdue the finishes, like, you know, like John Cina are hitting with three FUs and still can't get the pin or whatever. But Oberfemi to just hit one finishing move, to put him down,
Starting point is 00:40:48 that was, one, it kind of puts Oberfemi over massively, but two, it kind of plays into the post-match thing where Brock kind of realizes, oh shit, maybe, maybe this is the right time to retire then.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So, you know, it kind of all made sense to me. Do you think he's going to retire? I think, like, the rumor has been for a little while that he's going to retire at SummerSlam because it's in Minnesota. And a lot of people are kind of talking about Gunther being a potential final opponent. It has been his gimmick lately to be the guy who retired. people. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:33 He's the legend killer. So it kind of fits, and it's sort of a dream match as well, like seeing the two of them similar to Obafemi, kind of, you know, like just two big meaty dudes slapping the shit out of each other. You got a baby face, you know, you can do a baby face
Starting point is 00:41:51 Lesnar in his final match. It's not something you see terribly often, and Brock's always kind of at his best when he's a bit goofy. Yeah. They can do it because I mean, all you have to have is a reason for goonther to threaten haman and you know because that's his boy well but there's just taken out set throlyan's a favor to haman so there you go like he could cash in that favor to get the match with brock lesnar yes that's the rumor is that he's he oh like
Starting point is 00:42:19 haman always has a fever so he's going to say i want to fight brock lesnar at summer slam that's my favor there you go i would like that that'd be a fine match all right up nick we had Penta putting the Intercontinental Championship online in a ladder match against Ray Mysterio, Dragon Lee, Javan Evans, or Javan, I don't know where I got Javon from, Rousseff and Jady McDonough. This, this oddis on paper, this seems here to pop the crowd and nothing more,
Starting point is 00:42:52 because aside from Mysterio, are any of these people really over? Penta's over. Yeah, Penta's over. I know Javan is somebody that they have, they see a lot of potential in considering how quickly got called up from NXT, but like, McDonough, good hand, Rusev, there to catch people, Mysterio, legend, Dragonly, there. Yeah, but I think everyone got their time to shine in this match and everyone looked pretty good at certain points in it as well. So real quick, though, Penta did retain by belt retrieval. after putting away Javon Evans with a Mexican destroyer.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah. Any thoughts on that match, though? Going into the best of mania, the two matches I gave a shit about the most were the ladder match and the main event of night two. And I found a ladder match to be a lot of fun in that it's an annual tuition at this point. If you are familiar with multi-man and kind of ladder matches, this is it? Yep. I think this is one of the better ones they've put on as well it's just like non-stop action from the opening bell
Starting point is 00:44:12 lots of brutal looking car crash spots and yeah they had the crowd fully invested too so yeah picks all the right boxes they already wanted to see this match you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:44:31 they're pretty pretty happy with it. I liked it. It was fun. I guess it was pretty standard batter match shenanigans, but... I mean, there was some gnarly spots like the Mexican destroyer
Starting point is 00:44:46 on the ladder and then... That was pretty sick. Javne Evans giving Roussev, the O.G. Cut her off the ladder as well. That I didn't like because Javon Evans, as good of an athlete as he is,
Starting point is 00:45:00 he jumped from a turnbuckle towards the ladder where Ruseb was standing on top of the ladder. Ruseb did a lot of work in order. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's just like, we need to lean over real quick. Did a lot of work. I think I ever heard someone saying my name?
Starting point is 00:45:20 So that looked very silly, which was a shame. But, yeah, a fun match. I liked it. All right. After that, we had Sammy Zane defending the United States Championship against Trick Williams. Ending saw Trick avoiding a haluvicicicic before connecting with the trick shot to capture the United States title.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Trick Williams is somebody that they see a lot of potential in, a guy who is very charismatic and gets over very, very easily with crowds. Spent some time in NXT as champion and a perennial main eventer over there before making his most recent jump to the main roster. I remember he got paired up with Carmelo Hayes in NXT, and everyone kept saying Hayes is the star of the group because he was like the guy from the Indies who like could do all the, you know, independent wrestling shit. And then out of nowhere, Trick got over with a catchphrase and then they got over over. And now they're up on the main roster kind of doing the same thing where Carmelo Hayes had just been the United States champion doing the random open challenge matches until they put the belt on Sammy and gave it a storyline finally.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So, yeah, at the end of the day, there you go. Get over. Matters way more than how good you are in the ring. He's good in the ring, though. I'm not saying he's bad in the ring. I'm just saying Carmelo is the guy who had the reputation of being the guy from the Indies. Whereas Trick, much like Ovifemi, is another one of those collegiate athletes they trained to be a wrestler. Sure.
Starting point is 00:46:55 this match also felt quite short a good match for what it was you know that somebody was involved with little yachtie he wasn't bad to be fair he did a good like introduction for him you know
Starting point is 00:47:15 sometimes some of these rappers come in they're not the best he was fine for what he did you know um yeah Like, it was a good match. But again, if that match had been on Smackdown,
Starting point is 00:47:32 it would have been like, all right, fair enough. If it had been on Smackdown, ironically, it probably would have had more time. Yeah. Sure. I mean, this one was all about sort of cementing Trick Williams as a baby face. Like, he's been getting baby face reactions for a long time anyway. I think this kind of just puts the cherry on top of the Sunday
Starting point is 00:47:57 really he's been crowned now as like an official good guy. And I think that just makes it easier for them to like move forward with it and kind of embrace that reaction from the crowd. Yep. All right. Next up we had Dominic Mysterio of the Judgment Day against former Judgment Day member Finn Baller, who is reprising his demon persona in a street fight. Anding saw Baller be hitting his. the Kudei Gras threw a table on Mysterio for the win. Thoughts on Finn Baller versus Dominic Mysterio.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It was nice to have a demon back again. It was a great entrance. Yeah, this is the first time the demon's been back since his match with Edge a couple of years ago. I think they said three years. Yeah. That was the one where Edge split his head open and he had to get his dome staple back together. Luckily since then, I just had no major injuries. well, Ed's the one who did the injury, so perhaps it was karma.
Starting point is 00:49:02 That's been happening to him as of late. Well, he's probably fine wherever he is. Yeah. It is. Again, I thought the match was fine, you know? Yeah. Because it was a street fight. They had a lot of, like, you know, weapons and crazy shit like that.
Starting point is 00:49:25 They had to kind of put it into the match. and you're like was this all you know again what do you think was this better
Starting point is 00:49:36 than the the unsanction fight from the night before that what do you think I mean I thought it was I enjoyed this more than I did
Starting point is 00:49:45 the unsanctioned fight the problem of an unsanction fight is that it really makes it seem like the two guys want to kill each other and if that's
Starting point is 00:49:54 kind of team then you're like well, it doesn't need to be unsanctioned. Why doesn't the WW won't sanction this? You could have. You technically did. I mean, yeah, it was fun. It was a hardcore match.
Starting point is 00:50:09 You guys do what they do. Yeah. And Dominic is the kind of guy who can eat those kind of losses as well and bounce right back. Yeah. So, yeah. Very classic heel. Again, I think like most of the matches,
Starting point is 00:50:26 on this especially, like it did its job perfectly. All right. Next up, we had Jade Cargill versus Ria Ripley for the WB Women's Championship. Ending, saw Ripley hitting the riptide to win the title. Thoughts on this particular pairing.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I know I did see a lot. There was some kind of rumbling because Jade Cargill hit the one-week-an angel on Ria Ripley and Ria kicked out and a lot of fans were not happy about that because that is a move that people don't kick out of in other promotions. Right, but people don't kick out of that
Starting point is 00:51:08 because the person who does that move, that's his move. Yeah. Like, that's not ridiculous to... Sean Michaels doesn't get pissed off when people kick out of super kicks these days or don't even mind depending someone after hitting a super kick.
Starting point is 00:51:21 All the time, you know? They're always kicking a super kicks. I don't think that really matters. Yeah, I mean, this match was fine. Probably Jay Cargill's best match. Yeah, I was going to say that. I don't think that that's, I mean, that could easily be because of Rio Ripley, for sure.
Starting point is 00:51:44 You know, she's amazing. But this match was also short. And again, part of that is because, God bless her, G. Cargles in it, they were like, listen, damage control just six minutes. Damage control was in this match? Well, I guess Eosurai did show up, so I guess damage control kind of was in this match. You know, it felt bananas to me that they're telling a story where like J.A. Cargill has backup
Starting point is 00:52:12 in a real group, and her backup bar, I'm going to say, do the women who are the lowest on the women's Worcesterguard. Sometimes you just need fodder. You don't need to have the biggest muscles. You just need people. you can put in the way. Like, I like me, Chin, but like, she's not in the main events. No.
Starting point is 00:52:31 You know, God bless her. And BFab is BFat. And BFAP is BF. And BFat. So, and like, again, you're like, you have E. E.O. Shrii in your show, and this is the best use for her. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Um, especially because they were teasing in an Aska versus EO match, which I would have been all over. Yeah, you would have been heard. That's enough of you. You know. That would have been a great match. Oh, yeah, it would have been. Absolutely, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:52:58 For the four minutes they would have been given. The two and a half minutes, Eosri would have managed to DDT yourself on the floor, like she has been lately. Well, hey, man, it's fun. She's enjoying herself. She's having a good time. But yeah, like a fun match, but again,
Starting point is 00:53:14 kind of short and like, wouldn't have been remiss. If it went a bit longer, you know, like, it was fine. Not to be that kind of person who does it, but, like, was it a situation where the entrances were also ridiculously long as well? Because I noticed that sometimes it has become a thing where, like, these big grandiose entrances are taking about as long as the match itself. I mean, it's tough because at WrestleMania, you kind of want people to have a big grandiose entrance, and not everybody did. But you would like, especially the ladder match, like, when the ladder match... started four or five of the people were already in the ring no they were showing the
Starting point is 00:53:59 fucking Hulk Hogan advert while these guys made their entrance they're like are you kidding me like we can't see Roussev come to the ring like come on man I mean he's not coming to the ring in a tank then it's just why you know why bother why bother you know he had his big moment a decade ago where he came to the ring in a tank well we'll cover that in a second will he okay ish lower level. All right. So after that, we had our John Cena segment of the night where John came out to thank the crowd for being the host and the Miz and Kit Wilson showed up, which brought out
Starting point is 00:54:40 Dan Housen and an army of little people dressed like Dan Housen that involved a mugging of Kit Wilson and then Dan Housen hitting the five knuckle shuffle on the Mizz. Thoughts on this segment. Dan Housen came out in the Dan Housenmobile. So it might not be a tank, but he gets his own car. You know, if you're coming to the ring in your own vehicle, then so long as you're not Chuck Palombo, you're going to get over. Remember, I think it was, was it the last year that we were talking about?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah, it was. We were talking about WrestleMania in Stone Cold Steve Austin hitting the barricade and an ATV. Did he hit a barricade and knock out old woman over? Well, he wasn't here this year, the league. cunt. No, did the Danhouse do that?
Starting point is 00:55:26 We're past the three minute mark. It's fine. I've been so good though. We're past the three minute mark.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I would hope so. We're getting close to. Yeah, listen, Dan Houser coming out in the mobile. I thought that was fun. Yeah, of course,
Starting point is 00:55:51 skip Dan Housen his own car. Like, that's awesome. the midgets I was a little whatever about and here's the thing, a suit, like literally as soon as they appeared
Starting point is 00:56:01 Michael Cole starts like screaming on commentary, here come the midgets and I'm a lot of call the midgets because they told me earlier that they want to be called midgets. That is like legitimately what happened on commentary like as soon as they appeared. I'm like, alright
Starting point is 00:56:17 Jesus Christ. You could just not call them midgets at all I cut this bit up. Yeah, you could have stayed calling them little people, even if they gave you a pass. It's, you know, they don't speak for every little person out there, you know? Oh, I will also say this. Whenever Dan Huy's in first made his appearance at the Elimination Chamber, he come out with all those hot goth girls. I'm like, I'm going to go from hot goth girls to little people. Yeah, this is no knock on the midgets, but I feel like the hot goth girls was a look that I could
Starting point is 00:56:52 get on board with. I'm going to screaming about midgets. I could take it or leave it. And I'm like, I don't want, I really don't want. Would you have appreciated it more if it was like the hot goth girls coming out and Michael Cole going, they're goth mommies. Goth mommies are out here and I can call them goth mommies because they said I could.
Starting point is 00:57:11 That's probably grosser. Yeah, but this is right. I don't know if it's better or worse. Here's what I would like, right? The goth girls coming out and then Michael Cole not saying that to me. not saying a fucking word perfect but you can't have everything
Starting point is 00:57:30 it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to get down how he's in over just put him on TV and let him do and dump and it's quite fun to see like the the way he was used in AW as opposed to the way he's been used in
Starting point is 00:57:45 WWB because he's not rasting at all it's the exact opposite of what he did but he doesn't he just comes out and curses people and like the whole story from cursing people already has gained a lot of traction and
Starting point is 00:57:58 um is but people in the show know that if you get cursed by Dan Housen you're going to lose your match that's what I've been established within a month maybe like a month and a half like that didn't get over in what three years of AW
Starting point is 00:58:14 oh they would have had to put him on TV doing it to get him over in three years like he would curse surrounding people, but it would be in a match and there would be no consequences to it. Nothing would come up it. Well, then also, like I said, he spent like the last two years of his contract not being used. Yeah. Not on TV, not being used.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Still putting out merch, which sold. I mean, like I said, people, people love the guy. And like you said, he's a very lovely man. You know, good for him. When he's, when he debuted at Elimination Javier, like his shirt sold out. Yeah. Like, already? Jesus Christ, man.
Starting point is 00:58:51 He moves March, so fair play to him. Nice to see him on the show. Yeah. Already at a Rastomedia. Yep. He's been like a month and a half. Yep. Not wasting any time.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Nope. All right. Well, that takes us to the main event, which sees CM Punk defending the World Heavyweight Championship against Roman Reigns. Ending saw Roman Reins hitting two consecutive spears after Punk was unable to physically capitalize on three consecutive. of GTSs for the victory, sending the fans home happy with a kind of heel, Roman Raines winning.
Starting point is 00:59:28 More of a tweener. I mean, this is a fight between two tweeners for all its purposes. Yes. Going into this match, I wasn't totally sure who the heel was because both of them were getting pretty good pops and like both had points that they were making that were kind of true. And both them were being kind of dickish to the other. so you're like okay it's not cut and dry here
Starting point is 00:59:51 but this was a magic I think it was built more on the star power than like the usual heel versus face dynamics 100% it was just built on these are two guys again two guys that do have history
Starting point is 01:00:04 you can trace that history back and if you just tell a story where you focus on that and capitalize that and you have two guys who can talk their fucking asses off make you invest in that story that's all you need you don't need pat mag if he dicking in the bite you can just tell that story maybe that's why they did it with the cody road saying because we can't have two stories that are exactly the same and it worked so much better with re-insent pug i was the match i wanted to see and uh stayed up all night to watch it and you are a big cm pug fan as well that is also on the record but i sat through like 50 billion hulk hogan adverts to see this fucking match you mean
Starting point is 01:00:48 what do you think of it John oh hands down the best thing on either night of the show it was it felt like a classic wrestling mania main event really like it had the big fight feel
Starting point is 01:01:06 it had like you know the crowd fully invested in it and like who's in their favorite wrestler and then the actual quality of the match itself was just perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I really like the ending as well where after Roman Reins had sort of made the point of CM Punk being old and kind of, you know, losing his step a little bit
Starting point is 01:01:38 in the buildup. That's basically what happens in the end where punk just sort of runs out of steam can't hit that final GTS to win the match and then Roman is there to capitalize with a couple of spears to put them down for the count. It's like yeah, yeah, that's good storytelling right there. But like during the match, that whole match was fucking, oh, it was so good.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Like it wasn't even like the best match of WrestleMania. It's the best match they put on all year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Easily. And there's no real bells and whistles to it either. just two guys who are very, very good at wrestling, just going out there and doing it themselves. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Yeah, two guys who are good at wrestling, just going out and being really good at wrestling. Wouldn't you know a show called WrestleMania, that happens to be far and away the best match of the night, well, the two nights, the whole weekend. Yep. That was a phenomenal match, Corey. if you get a chance to watch any of the matches.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I would imagine a lot of them, you're not going to want to watch. Watch this one. Like, it's, it's, very good. Very, very good.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And it's great that, like, you know, on because obviously, like, when he came back, he's been hit really, really good matches. We talked about the one he did with Drew. He's been doing some really, really good stuff. But also,
Starting point is 01:03:14 Roman, you know, whenever he was champion. People, I don't know if people fully, like, understood how good he was, but he was very, very good. And a lot of his matches were very good. And it's, you know, he hasn't lost his step. He's still very, very good. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Phenomenal match. Well, that was the ending of Night 2 of WrestleMania, and therefore, WrestleMania season has come to a close, as it often does. But, as they say, the year starts again. There is no offseason for professional wrestling, especially not for the WBE, as these stories have continued to flow over. As we discussed, it appears that Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton is not over yet. Hopefully, giving them an opportunity to have the match they want to have instead of the match that TKO is forcing them to have. And also, we have Roman moving on to face Jacob Fattu, who is Blood Family.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And they previously faced each other in the Bloodline War storyline. so there's a little bit of history there as well. But yeah, any thoughts on where you see the company moving forward or things you'd like to see before next year's WrestleMania? I would like to see better matches of Restania. Yeah. I thought Mina Van was phenomenal. The latter match was fun.
Starting point is 01:04:39 There's a handful of other matches that you like could have been on Rest Media. Or like even if they were given more time, would have been perfect. Like Oba versus Lesnar, that's a Restmany match. But again, a minute or two acts would have been great. Overall, like, they could have caught all of night one. Yeah, it is, it is interesting just because the two-night WrestleMania is still, it's been a couple of years now they've been doing it, and it doesn't seem necessary at all.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I mean, like, for years and years and years, WrestleMania was one night, and they still managed to get, like, eight matches on the card. Now, mind you, they weren't doing a bunch of advertising. they weren't doing a bunch of advertisements between every goddamn match as well. It was sort of like, there was a match,
Starting point is 01:05:23 here's the video package promoting the next match, here's the next match, here's the next match, here's the next match. So they were a little more of like a wrestling show for wrestling fans back then, whereas now TKO is definitely trying to use WB as this cross-promotional platform with actors and musicians
Starting point is 01:05:44 and YouTube people. as well. So, I mean, that's, that is, it is interesting. You have two major promotions right now in America. One promotion, you get two nights where you could fit all of the matches theoretically on one show that was full of a lot of filler in between. And then the other will have one night that the show is about six hours long and every match goes about 20, 30 minutes each.
Starting point is 01:06:11 So like one match will beat you over, one show will beat you over the head with wrestling that doesn't necessarily need to happen. and the other will starve you. Yeah, yeah. It's quite irritating that we can't get a really good middle guard anymore. I mean, I will say I prefer the two-night WrestleMania to the one night. Too many times, like, staying up late to watch WrestleMania, and it's just going on and on. And you're like into hour five event.
Starting point is 01:06:45 It's like, man, I just want to go to bed at that. this point. Yeah. You know, it becomes a chore to watch, whereas when it's like three and a half hours long or whatever, it's such a sort of palatable length for a wrestling show. That's the sort of time it should be. Also, if you do have it like two nights, so a Saturday, Sunday, what you can do really if you want to is just watch them both on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah Just make it like one big long WrestleMania like they used to do it So you still can't have the big long WrestleMania Well I will say something I really liked Is that it started at 11 o'clock for us Which was nice
Starting point is 01:07:31 Because normally pay-per-view started like 1 o'clock Which sucks 11 o'clock tasty Good stuff Now mind you if you are listening to the show And are new to this Dylan and John Live in the United Kingdom
Starting point is 01:07:44 So there's a five-hour time difference So, you know, what is it? You said 11 o'clock. That means that the show was like six here when it started here in America. So that's just your context that your complaint may not line up with John or Dillon's. Your complaint might have started too early. What am I supposed to do that early in the day? I still have kids to put to bed.
Starting point is 01:08:06 They can watch Rastomania. No, they can. It's violent, Dylan. It's a violent show full of bad influences. It's a bit where you forget who I am. No, I'm going to leave that in. I'm going to leave that in. I'm going to leave that in.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That's for John as well, because I can feel John judging me on the other end. Oh, yeah. That closed web now. I hear him. We've been doing this show for all along. It's been a very long day for me. I almost didn't make it a whole time. We had to put the kids to bed.
Starting point is 01:08:37 How did put the kids to bed? This one over here is not behaving himself. I've been fighting him this whole time we've been recording. Yeah. Very rude. It's honestly. a little bit. Like, he's right now, he's fucking around
Starting point is 01:08:48 with some cords. What are you doing? That's probably fine. Yeah. They're not plugged in anything. It's just annoying. Anyway, John, you spend a lot of time
Starting point is 01:08:58 watching wrestling, but I hope you also spend some time watching movies. What does your movie count out for the year so far? So far, I have watched 408 movies.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Oh, there you go. So you are on track for basically watching 100 movies a month considering when we're recording this now now mind you folks if you're listening to this and we successfully uploaded it when we think we're going to upload it the next
Starting point is 01:09:27 two three episodes it's going to seem like John forgot that he watched the movies right I was I was going to say that because I'm like well if he put it in this episode where John watched 400 movies and then the next episode he forgot 30 of them somehow yeah
Starting point is 01:09:42 just order like air this in order just to save. Nah, if you can't follow along with the lore, then you don't deserve to be listening to the show.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I don't think we've done a, well, I've done a great job of explaining any of the lore. We go out of our way all the time anymore to mention like,
Starting point is 01:10:01 oh yeah, by the way, if you're listening to this, this happened three weeks ago. We do that. Yeah. That being said, John,
Starting point is 01:10:10 what was the last movie that you watched? The last movie I watched was This is 40. Oh, okay. Judd Apatow movie. Sort of a semi-sequor to Knocked Up, where it's got two characters
Starting point is 01:10:28 who would like supporting characters in that one, and now they're the main characters in this one. Paul Rudd and who? And what's her name? It's Leslie Mann. There you go. Yeah. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Like, I laughed a lot. The only problem with it was it was super long, like two and a half hours or something, which, I mean, they could have cut so much out of it. There's way too many average for Hulk Hogan. Yeah, man. God damn, Hulk Hogan just popping up everywhere.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Everywhere. Can't get rid of them. But even when we got rid of him, you can't get rid of them. Mm-hmm. There you go. So John, what did you give this is 40? I gave it three and a half stars.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Like I say, it was a bit too long, but I did laugh quite a bit. So that sort of balances out. I will do my best to watch it because I will be turning 40 as well, and it'll be nice to have a heads up about what's coming down the pipeline. Anyway, if they want to read your review, where can they go to find that? they can head to letterbox and find me at big john bowski or word are you familiar with the big john machine memes that are going around tic talk by the way
Starting point is 01:11:51 i am not familiar with this should i be look up big john machine when you have an opportunity i think you'd find it a little amusing uh dylan what have you been up to you this week uh well i uh I've been watching WrestleMania, me and Lee. It's making me right up until today. Long time.
Starting point is 01:12:16 All those whole cooking commercials. I know. I just, I see him when I go to sleep. That's because I think he's haunting me. It's a separate issue. We don't have to worry with that. It's something I have to deal with. There you go.
Starting point is 01:12:31 But on Monday nights, I do a radio show. It's on Binds Digital Radio. I'm not coded UK. If you go to a link, and on a Monday night from 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock UK time you can listen to me do a radio show
Starting point is 01:12:45 which is full of cool music and sometimes banter but mainly music and it's really good you can listen to it wherever you are in the world I stream sometimes on Twitch at Spooky LaRue where I draw pictures and they animate those pictures and put them on YouTube at Team Crows
Starting point is 01:13:03 N.I on YouTube and Team Crow Studios on TikTok because everybody has stuff at TikTok, I guess. Whatever. That's it. Okay. Well, I have my other show, Large Old Cup, where we talk about whatever's going on in my head at the
Starting point is 01:13:22 particular moment of recording. And there is also new number ones here on the YouTube channel, if you're watching this on YouTube, where every week I try to find it new number one, ideally from a small publisher, and we chat about it. Sometimes they blow up in view count suddenly. for no discernible reason. Like, my review of pop kill like jumped up by like 30 views.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And I don't know what caused that to happen, but I'm not going to question it either. So there you go. Yeah, aside from that, I think that'll do us. Next week, get ready for the shocker if we get this up and loaded by the end of the week. If not, let us know how that shocker episode was in the comments. We'll see you guys later.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Goodbye. see later bye bye bye

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