The Smark Avengers - Vol 3, Ep 12: The Smark Avengers Watch Generation-X
Episode Date: May 17, 2024What started in an earlier episode as an unlocked memory for Corey and Jon has culminated in this moment! What does a product placement for Virtual Fighter, Max Headroom doing a Jim Carey impersonatio...n, a terrible Irish accent, and a bunch of unlikeable creeps have in common? Fox's 1996 television pilot for the Marvel Comics X-Universe tie-in series Generation-X! Emma Frost and Banshee have assembled a team of young teenagers played by young adults to train and develop their powers while a mutant hating inventor obsessed with dream experimentation and loud suits tries to accomplish a not-so-clear plot. Please join Corey, Dylan, and Jon as they watch Generation-X!
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We'll do it holding hands.
Okay.
I have my hand out the window, stretching as far as hard as I can to try to reach America.
Can you, Corey, can you feel my hands?
We are the world.
We are the children.
Corey, can you feel me touching you?
The left.
The little to the left.
Is this, can you feel this?
Oh, it tickles.
Okay.
Oh, dear.
It's a good story.
That's a good start.
Are we recording currently?
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, dear God.
All right.
Hi, everyone.
Welcome to the Smark Avengers.
I don't have a clever line because, I mean,
how are we going to top that?
Right?
I mean, he was, you're busy, you know.
I was distracted.
Yeah, it's understandable.
See him punk and Jack Perry fighting outside.
Yep.
I didn't have time to pray.
got it.
I don't think people are going to get that one, are they?
I mean,
that they probably won't.
But I just still love that he said that like stone cold serious in an interview.
Like, well, yeah, they didn't have time to pray.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Anyway, as we continue to talk stuff that nobody knows about, unless, you know, you're really in the weeds as we are sometimes.
Welcome to the Smart Avengers.
I'm Corey and with me are John and Dylan.
We were reaching hands across America and, you know,
what was that old expression, reach out and touch somebody?
You say so.
Something like that. I tried that and then I got arrested for it.
It's not fair.
No, they frown on that.
Not fair.
So, folks, a couple of weeks ago,
we did an episode talking about all of the X-Men movies
that have come out from the year 2000 to the year 2024,
including the upcoming Deadpool and Wolverine movie.
However,
we've alluded to this already in the past,
maybe like a month or so ago,
we've been kind of hyping this up.
That was not the first time
there has been a live action X-Men property.
John and I unlocked this memory.
Dylan did not know it existed,
but in 1996,
Fox, who still has, who has had the rights to X-Men that entire time,
decided to make a live-action pilot for potentially a TV show for the comic series Generation X.
So Generation X, for those who are not familiar with the title,
was basically the Young X-Men Book of the 90s.
So, you know, previously you had the X-Men that when they started out,
like it was implied that like Cyclops and Gene Gray and everyone were like teenagers essentially.
And then as they got older, a new batch of teenagers came in in the 80s called the New Mutants.
And then they grew up.
And then in the 90s, a whole new batch of teenage characters were created for the X-Men universe.
So the 90s were known for their excess and for the interesting art, which we got with some amazing Chris Bocchelow art for the Generation X series.
But yeah, I know.
The premise of the series where these are the young mutants that are still learning how to control their powers
and how to navigate the complex and difficult world of modern times where you are hated and feared for the way you're born.
Do you guys have any thoughts on the Generation X comic before we really dive into some of the details about this show?
Yes, but before I get to that, I want to ask a real quick question.
When did this come out?
When did this pilot originate?
February 20th and 1996.
1996.
In TV, I don't know if this is what they did,
but I know they did this with other pilot Marvel films
that they made in the 90s is that whenever you have the rights to something,
a lot of the times, if the rights are about to run out,
what people will do is make a really quick pilot episode of something
as a way to a prove that they are making something
with the license that they have to kind of extend it,
you know,
and be like test to waters to see if there's interest in it.
So if the rights are going to run out,
a lot of the time people will just make a really quick film like this
to extend the rights.
So, Dylan, I'm glad you said that because, for those,
I don't think you actually ever said it,
we're doing another watch-along episode today,
kind of like we did with Japanese Spirets.
man so Generation X is up on YouTube this is a channel we'll give him a quick plug
retro channel they have the full one hour and 28 minute and two second pilot up in
its entirety I did find another video that was like closer to two hours that included
all the commercials and I was really super tempted to watch that one but yeah that
would have been we've had to be two hour episodes in a row so Dylan the reason
I'm glad that you said that is retro
channel was very kind enough to put some facts about this movie in the description of the video.
So, real quick, I'll just kind of read through those.
It's divided into a number of sections.
These will go relatively quick.
So the movie information, Generation X is a television pilot directed by Jack Shoulder that aired on Fox on February 20th, 1996.
He was later broadcast as a television film.
It is based on the Marvel Comics comic book series of the same.
name, a spinoff of the X-Men franchise.
It was produced by New World Entertainment and Marvel Entertainment Group.
And then there's a breakdown of the plot, which I'm not going to, I don't want to
read, do you guys want me to read the plot?
No, no, don't spoil that.
Okay.
All right.
So, production information.
So the development.
Some changes were made to the characters in the development of the film.
Jubilition slash Jubilee, Lee, for example, was not portrayed as a character of Asian descent,
despite the X-Men comics and broadcast series having portrayed her as Chinese
American. Two new characters,
Buff and Refrax, were
created to replace characters from the comics.
Producer Eric Blakeney
had wanted to include Chamber, but his
powers would have been too expensive to produce
on the film's budget. Refrax
was created to replace Chamber, who had
his chest in the lower half of his face
destroyed when his power has emerged.
I think we've mentioned Chamber before, but essentially
if you've never seen Chamber before,
he is this sort of like
living furnace with this like
kind of plasma fire kind of thing going on.
And yeah,
he does not have a lower half of his face and his entire chest looks like an open fireball.
He's cool as heck.
Yeah,
he's fucking badass.
Buff was created to replace Husk,
who Husk would shed her skin to reveal another sort of skin layer that had like
powers associated with it.
So she might tear off her skin and she'd have like metal skin underneath it,
like Colossus or something like that.
So,
uh,
yeah,
I can imagine, like, having a TV show budget and having someone rip their fucking skin off being a little difficult.
Yeah.
All right.
These are the locations that were filmed.
The mansion used for the Xavier Institute is Hatley Castle, which was also used as Xavier's school in the films X2, X-Men United, X-Men, the last stand, X-Men Days of Future Past, Deadpool, Two.
It was also served as the Luther family mansion on the television series Smallville and the Queen Family Mansion in the early seasons of the television series Arrow.
Filming also took place in a shutdown mental institution and a big abandoned factory.
So essentially, if you need to have a superhero mansion, go to Hatley Castle.
That's pretty cool that like they've kind of, I don't know if they did it on purpose or whatever, but they've capped that castle like through all.
A lot of continuity there.
Yeah, a lot of continuity.
Yeah.
And the last section here is the release.
Generation X was broadcast on Fox as part of the Fox Tuesday night at the movies on February 20th of 1996.
Just before the release, the TV special was testing the waters for a series of TV movies instead of a TV series.
Plans to develop a syndicated series that would air on the same night as popular sci-fi thriller The X-Files were abandoned.
So I guess that was the original intent, Dylan, was as to have a show that would accompany the X-Files.
To go back to your earlier question though
I think that Generous Nacks are
I thought it was a really cool team
full of like really interesting characters
like that I think is the most important thing
for a comic is to have the characters
be really distinct and really interesting
you know they need that
that's really important and I think that
you know it's while we understand
why Chamber isn't in the show
Chamber was one of my favorite characters from Generation X just because of how interesting a character he is.
I feel like there's so much they could do with that guy.
Instead, they were like, we'll just make him apocalypse and then forget about it.
You know, like that's not, that's not good writing, you know.
Well, and I say that with a Marvel Legends chamber figure behind me, actually.
Oh, they made a chamber figure.
Yeah, they made a chamber figure not too long ago.
And actually there was in the 90s there was a Generation X action figure line that came out around the same time as the X-Men cartoon.
Now, I don't know if they made the action figure line just independent of itself because like all X-Men stuff was selling or if they like had this idea that this television show was going to come out.
So they were like, well, we'll go ahead and release some figures of the characters.
I just Google the little figure.
He looks pretty cool.
He looks a little bit like he's going to be it, though.
The Marvel legend's figure?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It's a little bit like it's going to appear.
Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of hard to make living fire into a plastic form.
Yeah, well, you know.
John, what's your experience generation next like?
I have zero experience with them.
Like, I'm pretty sure I watched this movie way back in the day.
I have zero recollection of it.
And, yeah, all I know is basically it's,
Emma Frost basically doing her own school for gifted mutants.
Did you read the comic?
No.
Oh, wow.
So,
yeah,
it was,
to kind of feel like it,
from what I remember,
because I also saw this back in 96 when I was nine,
um,
what I remember is it was fairly accurate to the basic plotline generation X in that
it's Banshee who was one of the,
all new X-Men and Emma Frost who at that point had been like a recurring villain for the
X-Men.
It was sort of the beginning of her like turning face essentially starting up like their their school
and for Xavier to help guide these young characters.
So it was like just as much about like an Emma Frost redemption as it was about these
other characters because before then in the new Mutants comic she had her own school of
characters of like teenage characters called the Hellions and then they all got fucking
wiped out by
was it the marauders that wiped out the hellions
I think so
that's nice yeah they all died
I remember that
because that was like a very big part of her
of her redemption arc
was like you know
it was all fun in games with these like
her own little evil school of children
and then they all died
oh wow
yeah so
so John another question I'm going to ask you is
how many movies have you watched so
far. I am now up to 283. So this is going to be 284. Yep. So we're contributing to this.
So we're going to follow the Japanese Spider-Man rules. We all have the video pulled up on YouTube.
Again, it's on retro channel, but I just searched Generation X pilot brought me right to the very first
result. So it looks like it's in good, it looks like it's in good condition. Like it looks super clear.
going to have the close captions on so we can kind of still talk amongst yourselves as we're watching
but we're just going to have a countdown we're going to hit play and then we're just going to let it
happen that means if you guys want to watch along as well and listen to our commentary over the top
just hit play on your YouTube whenever we hit 321 go and you can play along too
yep record your own commentary and then totally post it and we'll absolutely listen to it
Yep, which is funny because very famously that's riff tracks that has been doing that and we're about to watch a show with refrax.
No.
We are the first person to ever cover this.
We're the first two who've ever done to watch a long.
Yeah.
Because we did it with Spider-Man.
That was ages ago.
Yeah.
Right?
That was over a year ago.
Yeah.
So we got to be the first supposed to do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Which I do really want to go back to watching some more Japanese Spider-Man just because of, it was like super quick and it was so fucking weird.
It was crazy.
If you're listening to this,
you haven't seen the Japanese
Spider-Man episode,
go back and listen to that.
It's really...
Yeah, yeah.
Everything you thought you knew
about Spider-Man is completely wrong.
Yeah.
Like,
how he got his powers.
What his fucking name is?
Yeah.
There's a lot going on in that show.
There's a ton going on.
All right, guys.
The really do a countdown,
three to one,
and after one,
we'll hit play.
All right?
Do we hit,
do we hit,
do we play on one or on go?
we're going to go we're going to go three two one go and we'll hit it on go okay
john you want to count us down uh okay uh three two one go
see that's why i wanted john to do it he has that professional presenter voice yeah it sounded
really good you know this is this is a new world entertainment production
new world entertainment
John, you do it.
New World Entertainment.
See?
I can just imagine, you know, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash coming out.
Uh-huh.
This is going to start out like a really bad term paper.
Webster's Dictionary defines mutation as...
The act of being altered or changed.
Oh, the illegal genetic condition first apparent in period.
I didn't know, but that one did that happen.
Is this a fetus?
Oh my God.
That's what all life mutates look like.
Oh, we did this earlier with the reaching out.
John got it, thank you.
I wasn't wearing a glove, though.
See, that's what I thought I heard, but it was actually your Xbox.
It might have been my Xbox.
We're not explaining that on the show.
Yo.
So what is actually going on here?
What are they doing to this guy?
I assume that this is a mutant.
Yeah, yeah, look at his little claw hands.
He's got to...
Yeah.
So they're like, we gotta fuck this guy up.
Oh, that's up boy.
Yeah.
Max Headroom himself.
Fun fact, he was also Mollick in Watchman.
Indeed.
Guys, you don't like that...
Who are these cool guys?
You gotta stop touching the mutants.
So why was that kid just lying on the...
the gurney waiting to have his head
saw one open.
Are they not going to untie the kid?
It's like, no, we're going to arrest this guy.
I think that's supposed to be Emma Frost, by the way.
Oh, that would explain a lot.
Uh-oh.
She's making a face?
But you know that if you have telepathic power,
so you would do it is to make a face and make your arms raise up.
If you have telepathic power, you can make lightning happen.
Yeah, it blows air into your face.
Have it they got it?
mixed up with storm.
Did you notice that like her,
like most of her hair
like kind of weaves around,
but her fringe stays perfect.
Doesn't move.
Like I's piss off.
Closing on, Matt,
up her face.
The circle feet out.
You know,
the Generation X logo even looks like
the X-Files logo.
Did I say five years earlier?
Five years later.
Five years later.
Okay.
Which, which,
who are these guys?
Uh,
the one with the curly hair
is supposed to be skin.
Okay.
He's heading to the Xavier School.
What about the other guy?
That's a great name.
What was it?
Bumper Robinson.
Bumper Robinson. He was in Petrauma.
Really?
Yeah, I think he did Hermes Kid, the voice of Hermes Kid.
Oh, no kidding.
I think so.
Bumper Robinson. I know, I'm pretty sure he's in Petramma.
I've definitely heard that name before
You don't forget a name like that, right?
No, you really don't.
So here's Xavier, you're abducting these children.
It's totally illegal at their meetings.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I remember this scene very clearly.
There he is.
Shit!
My fucking arm!
Wow, what is the dick his sister is?
Yeah, I love how she's smiling.
Like, she's like, I know exactly what I did.
It looked like it was painful.
Oh, Scott Lobdell, that's a writer I was thinking of.
A controversial figure he is.
What did he do?
Oh, people just didn't really care for some of the decisions he made writing Red Hood and the Outlaws during the new 52.
Oh, do we do talking with that?
I don't think we did.
Well, not yet.
Or the dream device.
That's a great fucking suit.
He does, Ferber does sometimes come across as kind of a poor man's Jim Carrey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
well. Yeah, there's a lot of, like,
the same kind of comedy beats and stuff
like that, you know?
Yeah, he's really chewing up the scenery.
He definitely does voice acting, too.
You can tell, like, his voice is kind of
going up and down a lot. This is a
tie to a virtual fighter, just so you guys know.
Oh, I was just as much to say. I cannot believe they're
a Shill and Spirth Fighter. My goodness. This,
definitely wasn't it?
Yep. Oh, I forgot.
He was a little of
a episode of Star Trek. Yeah, he did voices
for dark oils and
Aladdin
and pink panther and shit
oh he was the leader
that's two he was
from an iron band of the
there it is
there's a time there it is
virtue fire
I think that's supposed to be Jubilee
I mean I just remember the 90s where we all had
like black light
lipstick
I still have it
oh I remember we could smoke in archaeos
I feel like he shouldn't be hanging around these teenagers
listen man what's the
problem with a weird old creepy dude
hanging out with a bunch of young
potentially dangerous children
I don't see any
who
I guess they can't see him
is he
allowed to do that? Is he inside the cabinet?
Yes
everyone knows the actual
the final Vasa virtual fighter is supposed to be
Matt Ferre
he was um
holy shit
well that's her
there's Jubilee's fireworks powers.
Do you see Stalin in the front of an X-Man cabinet?
Yes, he is.
That's clever.
So, and this universe, the X-Men is also a video game?
Yes.
Hmm.
I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
What a dick.
What a dick move.
Yeah, that seems weird to go up to, instead of like,
she has not to the girl, he just goes up to somebody else,
he goes, hey, I want to talk to that girl.
And he's like, all right, go get her, right?
Go find her.
be talking to me for
yep that's what a 15 year old girl looks like
Emma Frost
oh my god
and her
lovely Nikon
it's silk that we you know it's expensive
guys when we're writing this script
is there's a cerebral
is there any way we could write this to like show
Emma Frost like a lot of boobage
can we do that
you know we write a scene where she's a bat or something
you know
I'm not thinking about.
That's a big prison.
I like I just said she thinks she's a mutant.
Yeah, right.
Parents just don't understand.
What do you want me to do?
Your dad's busy, killing other mutants.
Now, let's judge this accent.
Can we do a thing where we have like Bansky's tits sitting out?
Yep.
It's not great.
Apparently is the same guy you voiced.
Banshee in the animated series as well.
Does that sound like him?
Yeah, it was a pretty bad accent in that too.
I don't remember. I haven't seen the anime show in a long time, but I kind of like creaned over,
leaned into my laptop to hear that Irish accent, and not so good.
Not great.
Recognize that guy from something.
He looks kind of like Michael McKeon.
Is that where you're getting it?
Maybe.
Yeah, he does.
You don't know, so this is the 90s because everything is, like, lit and very cool colors.
Like, did this police station not pay the power bill?
Yeah, they put all their power bills into the green lighting outside of.
See, he said we.
So that's how you know he's Irish.
Oh, that's how I say we.
Yeah.
Dylan, you're always saying we.
I do say I am.
I do say a lot.
I don't know if I said it in the show.
but I do say it a lot.
She's actually very modestly dressed for her to make a stripper comment,
but I guess I can see, like,
if some woman comes up to you wearing chrome white, like pants.
It is a weird outfit for stripper to be wearing.
It seems hard to strip that off, you know what you mean?
Am I thinking about that too much?
Now, I know this is like a pilot,
so they got to get to the point very quick,
but like they are giving her the hard sell,
like seconds later they found that they're sitting her daughter
to a concentration camp.
but also she's right
she's like why would I give my daughter to do weird freakos
yeah you just showed up
yeah
hey your daughter's in prison
I can help you with that
oh that's all right
take her
you know
oh my goodness
perfect
holy shit
booty and bluefish
I actually like that
I wish it looked a bit better
but that whole bit
where she's pretending
that they're in the
different outfits
I think that'll look pretty good.
It's a good idea.
It didn't look good, but it's a good idea.
He is laying that accent on real fucking thick.
This is real bad.
Dylan, are you offended as an Irishman?
Not offended because I've heard plenty of American people do bad Irish accents.
But it's one of those things we're like, you know, and it's okay for us because we're just, we're not actors, right?
But if you hear other people do it, if you say,
say, oh, do an American accent or do a British accent, then you're like, what part of America
are you doing an accent of, right? Do you mean? Like, what? Because there's so many different
accents, and it's the same in the UK, there's so many different accents. Like, what, whatever you say
you're doing an English accent? What does that mean? Are you doing a London accent, like a Liverpool
accent? Like, Newcast accent? What are you doing? And it's the same over here. There's so many
different accents. So when you hear something like that, you're like, what part of Ireland does
Do you think he's...
Where exactly is he?
You know what you mean?
Because, like, you know, wrestling-wise, let's say,
Seamus signs very different from Finley.
You know what you mean?
Neither of those men signed like this.
Right?
Sheimus sure as fuck does not sound like this man.
No.
He said it's real thick.
Because Seamus is from Dublin.
Finn Ballers from Wicklow also does not sound like this man.
So hang on a sec.
They asked the mum for permission to take Jubilee to their school.
The mum said no.
So they were like, well, fuck it.
Let's just abduct her from prison anyway.
And here we are.
Here we are.
Because that shows you what kind of characters,
Banshee and Emma Frost are.
They're like a little bit of Renegiate,
but they're still trying to do the right thing.
you know what you mean?
So some people can just voluntarily go like skin and other people can't like Jubilee.
Yeah, some people have to be arrested.
Some people have to get abducted.
Yeah.
Skin just signed up.
But funny enough, they both travel in the sim bus.
Oh, my God.
He's worn a big blue suit, a big red suit and a big yellow suit.
What is his wardrobe?
I do, you know what?
He may be like a, a.
budget of Jim Carrey but it's the same thing with Jim Carrey you can't take your eyes off him no I love
Matt Fruer I guess he's one of my favorite character actors it's fun to watch and it's a good
refreshing kind of character to have in this you know like everybody else is trying to be so like
super serious like this is a very important thing we're dealing with we're talking about child
abduction here and he's just like I'm going to go into dreams why not abduct more children
I'm not sure what his plan is.
He's like, I can go into people's dreams.
And then what?
I think it's about manipulating people through their dreams.
So try to make people, like, does that work for, like, you guys, you, you, you've had dreams, right?
Have you ever woke up and go, well, no, I have to act out the thing that happened to my dream?
Oh, all the time.
Well, yeah, but I think it's a little more complicated than that.
Oh, like what?
like you know
I go back to school and start doing my exams all over again
what's up with this guy his tie as well
I'm just like so distracted by fruer I'm like
this is a business man what's that tie
wait which guy that guy
the boss character yeah I like his shirt
he's got some style you got to you got to admire that guy
you know it's bold for him to be doing like a budget
of Jim Carrey wearing a big yellow suit in the 90s.
People are just thinking the mask.
Especially with that green lighting hitting him in the face.
Holy shit.
Again, coincidence?
Probably not.
Probably not.
You know, people like the mask.
Like Jim Carrey.
They probably like mutants.
They love child abduction.
Put it in the film.
They're going to love Amafrost tits.
Put them in.
You know what you mean?
Although we didn't really see.
You saw more bouncyy's tits, I guess.
So like, you know,
tits of anti-persuasion.
Put them in.
You know?
Get them in.
We want to see them.
People in the 90s, they just love tits.
And you know what?
I don't blame them.
Sorry, I spot on your shoulder, dude.
Yeah, sorry, I drool over you.
But I got a ducted, so, you know.
Hey, everyone, I'm Irish.
Kish you forgot.
I'm Irish.
I'm a fucking Irish.
Oh.
Oh, this is.
fun.
I had a feeling it would be when I was like, oh, that's right.
Banshees in this.
I bet Dylan's going to have fucking fun with this.
Oh, we still got another R of this guy's wonderful accent.
Yep.
Yep, there's a Mephrash.
He's wearing a corset.
We're good to go.
Finally.
Are you okay with this abducting?
All right, step over this machine and look directly into it.
And then don't question what it is whatsoever.
Why would Frankenstein live in America?
he's also a mutant
wait
frangestine or frangus is monster
both
he had the power of supreme intellect
yeah dr rickson had the power
to bring people back from the dead
and frankinstein's power was to be back from the dead
oh she has to
oh we're doing naked stuff here here we go
she's 15 she's 15
yep we need to get the full body scan
go ahead and take your clues off in front of us
It ain't no big deal.
Like that guy's face, whenever he's like, you gotta get naked.
He's like, I'm gonna see some like 15-year-old tits.
Whoa.
Yes, we are.
Hello.
She's 15 again.
This was a TV movie?
This was a TV movie.
This was a pilot.
Hot damn.
What did she just do?
She put like...
She just tapped a little silver thing against her.
Don't look you pervert.
You're in your tits I too.
Oh, here's our other.
mutants.
Who the fuck are these people?
Or are these the new
Chamber and...
Yeah, that's the new Chamber.
That guy?
Oh, my mean, Paris. I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Like Cyclops.
Now, Chamber was not a dickhead.
He was a depressed guy.
I do like how he just...
He made a joke about St. Therapyos.
A moment ago...
He's got Wolverine on your shirt, guys.
Wolverine's on his shirt.
Oh, your skin stretches?
Well, let's see how well you play football.
Corey, is this an accurate representation of American football?
Yep.
It's about right.
Why didn't he stretch his arms up?
I mean, he's doing it right now.
Apparently, it hurts like hell.
Oh, he is, I guess.
That is a beautiful shot.
I really like that.
You know, I'm going to give this film a couple of slagons for its low budget,
but that camera shot with him with a big arm was beautiful.
that was less beautiful
I don't like it
I also really did like
Banshee in the comic book series as well
do you like this Banshee as much
I have to tell you
he's got to grow it on me in a weird way
I'm like looking at all these characters
I think I'm like man the villain
and Banshee are the most likable ones so far
I gotta say right now
if you're watching this
if anybody else is watching this long with us
and by now Banshee is one of your favorite characters
something's gone wrong with the
show. Like how
bad are the other guys?
We're also just seeing this girl in her underwear,
which again, I think she's supposed to be like
15, 16 years old. Is that
M? Who's it supposed to be? I think
she's supposed to be M, yes.
Okay. I mean, she kind of has the
personality. It seems like
they're trying to make her seem like a smart character.
Are I bragging to you?
You want to see my tits?
Everybody else is showing them?
Is it, is it you? Are you
the last person I should mess with?
It's the guy
will laser eyes
Looks a bit like
Lane Staley
I was gonna say
He looks kind of like
I was thinking he looks like
Spike from Buffy
No he looks like
Like Billy Idol
Whenever they did
The
Unplugged
Lee and Steeley was wearing
sunglasses like halfway through it
That's what he looks like
I know what you're talking about
Yeah
Yeah
racism so far in this as well.
That guy's being a total dick to skin.
I mean,
we've had pretty much everything.
We've had a lot of the buttons so far, right?
We have an underage nudity,
child abduction and subtle racism.
Regular nudity.
Jim Carrey.
Casual racism.
Wolverine.
This is the 90s.
Lean Steely.
We've hit everything.
There's been two X-Men references
within the same thing.
Virtra Fighter.
Yeah, that's the X-Men.
Holy shit.
There weren't so many
ducks, I said it, though.
Are you shitting me?
There's only one bathroom.
I was not to say.
Let's all just hang outside the bathroom where the lady is.
She won't mind.
I don't have been an 80-R line.
Is that, I thought his par,
I thought the,
the C&D close bit was a joke.
I thought his part was looking, like,
oh, there's the tits.
Why does his powers hurt the shit out of him?
Yeah.
Well, wouldn't it hurt if your tits were stretching?
It kind of reminds me a little bit of that episode of Venture Brothers
where they meet like their version of the Fantastic Four
and the one guy can light himself on fire like he even torch, but it hurts.
I haven't seen that.
Mutant levels, mutant readings of level three?
what are the different levels
also is she teaching a class on psychic power
that's a jerking off reference I'd let the list
jerking off reference for an underage boy
from an adult lady
from this teacher which I feel like it's a crime
that's a crime who has not changed her clothes in like three days
they got the one outfit
it's the same outfit it's one of those like
it's one of those secret image things.
You've got to cross your eyes and then uncross them and see the thing.
Yeah.
It's a sailboat.
Yeah.
Is this really how you determine who a mutant is?
I think they're trying to figure out who has psychic powers.
Okay.
Right.
Because I was like, why would Everfrost to teach a class on being a psychic to people that might not be psychics?
but also those other guys
I've already been here for Eages
so like she would already know
if they're psychic or not right?
Yeah
why are they here
just hanging out
yep
they just really like
I'm a frost for some reason
I don't know why
that has to be a wig
by the way
it does look weird
doesn't it
is just something to buy it
now you've said that
I can't stop looking at it
mutant metaphysics
who wrote that book
beast?
Who said this place feels like a jail because
somebody was already going to jail
and neither here.
So what's the difference?
Hold on. We just were talking about AIDS.
Yeah. But on this.
Now he can control
his eyebeams. So the sunglasses
are unnecessary. He's just a dick.
Right. It's not like Cyclops
where like if he just take him off, it's
uncontrollable.
Yeah, exactly.
He very clearly focused it on the TV.
Everyone seems cool with him blowing up the TV as well.
Again, in the 90s.
Are they drinking wine?
Hey.
Oh, it's different.
It's legal over there for you guys.
I don't think you can drink wine at 15.
Not as far as I'm aware.
I'm going to have to look into that.
I don't believe that.
That was different in Europe.
I think it's different in France.
It's 21 here.
Can I just say, though, for the record, I don't know, but John,
I was absolutely drinking alcohol
of blood finting.
Oh, God, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I was not.
Well, that's because you're a good boy.
I was straight edge.
We and John are degenerates, you know.
You were a St. Punk.
We are Sean Michaels in Triple Age.
Yeah.
John, you can choose.
He's not doing a great job of alerting people
of there being problems?
It's his first day.
I mean, it's a lot of responsibility.
Yeah.
He's like,
what button do I press to alert people?
I just,
do I write it down?
What do I do?
Is he just Kurt Pistorius?
Um,
why can't he stretch his head?
Here,
let's psychological torture.
Let's,
looks like you fucked it up,
kid.
Let's give him PTSD for the rest of his life.
Your flanks were attacked.
That's the problem.
It's,
he goes from,
like the north to the south like really quickly.
It's really funny.
But if you've ever been here,
there was a big difference between the north and the south accent.
And he's,
for the most part,
he seems like a very big southern accent.
That is a very sad library by the looks of it.
It looks like it's just like two bookshel.
All right, there's some more bookshelves.
I was about to say like, good lord.
But yeah,
bookshelves that are like,
three bookshelves, this is what you get.
At a small table.
So it sounds like that book
that Emma Frost recommended earlier
was one that she wrote.
That's in character.
Oh, because I wonder, like,
who exactly is the
special person who's writing
books about mutants?
It makes sense that Emma Frost would recommend her own book.
To give credit to
these guys, that totally makes sense.
That's actually, like,
really well in character for her to be like, you gotta read this book.
It's also true to the college experience.
And also very true to Emma Fraz.
It's also really thick.
I don't think she wrote that whole thing.
It's like a phone book.
Yeah.
There's no fucking way she wrote that.
No offense.
For those younger listeners, a phone book was a thing that has the names and phone numbers of people.
They do that anymore.
Years ago, we used to have to wonder who we wanted to call and then...
Look it up in a big book and then dial that number into a rotary phone, which was like a circle thing.
And you did one number at a time.
And then you lifted the phone up the hook and put it to your face.
It was a whole thing.
This seems like very like, was it Shadow King that had like a whole dream thing?
Yeah.
Is it a little, it's vaguely Shadow King.
I'm loving this guy's office.
again though to your point
who is lighting this stuff
it's a 90s man
why would you make an office like this and go
hey man whenever you're putting the lights in
just make them fucking weird
yeah I want a green one I run a red one
I want a blue one
one a purple one corner so in the middle of the room
it looks like a fucking skittal disaster
but do me a favor
like make them this random
dependent on the time of day
make sure my screensaver is a rotating brain
that's really important
I need that.
I'll put an apple in the middle of the room
so I can play with it.
I wanted him to hit him with the apple.
I think that would just be out of fucking nowhere,
just like beam him right in the middle of the forehead with it.
Yeah.
Oh, he called Emma Frost a slut.
I don't know what happened in your caption,
but from my caption, it did not write the word slot.
It did not either.
Okay.
That's a bad word.
All right.
It's good to see that now, away from the 90s,
times have changed
so
you know
I've been watching this so far
it's been fun
I'm not totally sure
what's going on
is that a mirror
what the fuck
is he doing the light of lipstick
what are you waiting for
take a wee little drive
maybe drive are we
drive
heart chartre
turture
he shrinks down
to a lap cross
in the river dance.
Like, uh-huh, yeah, yeah.
That's a murgah for you.
It'd be really cool if we could drive ourselves.
Well, it'd be really cool,
but you're not legally allowed to drive,
you fucking dick, and he punches him in the face, you know?
Yeah, my face.
This is...
The car keys has an X keychain on it, by the way.
I just noticed that.
That's a nice touch, too.
That's the car?
That's a bitch.
They could fit three people in the front seat.
Jesus Christ.
Guys, we spent all the money on the big mansion, so.
What is that hat?
That's not a hat.
That's part of my head.
Please have some respect.
Look at this fashion.
Purple or blue?
No, both at the same time.
Oh, my goodness.
That's what she's doing.
You're crazy.
Now, mind you, she's self-conscious about her body because apparently her muscles are constantly, like, fluctuating.
So are we going to see another underage girl naked?
Here we go.
Oh.
Jesus Christ, Nicole Bass.
Don't look at my teeth?
Look on what?
It's a curtain.
That's, that's really good.
When has there ever been a door and it changed a room?
Oh, this is my favorite magazine.
She's a babe.
She's a babe, dude.
Oh, he groped her.
Isn't that great?
Oh, geez.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You touched a girl and she didn't give you permission to.
Yeah, but we also, we should also remind you that once again, she's totally underage.
We got her.
Oh, yeah, buddy.
Oh, yeah, what are you going to do with that?
I call the cop.
I don't think so.
Dude, stop staring at us.
Go back.
Get that guy that guy that can see through our pants.
I like that guy.
Are he only claimed he could see through your pants?
It's a weird super power to have, isn't it?
declaimed to eat or so.
Are we having an eating contest?
I don't get what this is about.
Isn't this like how you guys show how tough you are where you're from?
You just try to eat food the quickest way possible.
Absolutely.
While staring at the people, yeah.
Intimately.
And also you have to make a really weird piece when you eat it.
You can't just like eat it.
You have to be really fucking weird about it.
So far Mando has been the least likable of the kids,
including the girl that was like kind of bragging about being a bitch.
Which I think checks out because I thought Mando
it was like a villain in the Generation X comic.
Yeah, I don't really understand.
So like, so, wait, Mondo's the guy
of the glasses, right? No, no, no, that's
three fracks. Okay, cool.
All right. Mondo's the guy who just throws out casual racism.
Well, they're both assholes.
And no, to be frank,
skin is being really creepy right now. He is straight up following that
girl. Mm-hmm.
But they're all terrible.
You fucking prick?
You see your tits?
I thought for a second,
the guy was going to be really cool and be like,
hey,
you keep following our friends around
and it's getting really uncomfortable for them.
Can you just knock it off?
But instead they're going to do a humiliation bit.
Dude, it's the 90s.
I got the list.
They're clearly jocks as well.
You can't trust jocks.
No, with their letterman jackets.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
They all wear the same ones.
So you know they're all together.
They're all in the same team.
You can't use.
You can't use your powers.
You just have to be humiliated.
Yeah.
Well,
what parts would he use?
The part of like stretch his arm.
Stretch his arm towards the door and then walk out the door.
Like,
what would he do?
Chamber,
that kind's,
right?
That's a shout out.
If somebody just name drops husk,
we're good.
People don't know that his first name was security.
So.
Yeah.
Security chamber.
Security chamber.
A lot of he said he's taking a lot of abuse since he's been here
How many people have seen your tids?
Yeah
The dudes aren't looking through your clothes
He has to be getting the shit bullied out of him this whole time hasn't he?
The dudes aren't he?
You know what I mean?
Oh, I love that weird keyboard.
It's very 90s as well
It's like those giant mouses that have like a trackball at the thumb
Yeah, yeah
The really weird looking ones that like look like looks so
one-wheeled you're like how could anybody in the world
fucking use this?
Oh, it's a floppy disc, man,
we're fucking going. Oh my God, but that
the list.
This is the most nightiest thing in the world.
Can we get some rage against the machine in here?
He just put his credit card in there.
He's paid $5 for this room.
Yeah.
You have it cost you to go into the room.
Wait, wait.
He found the deck.
Yeah, so they have the dream machine.
The dream machine is in the
mansion.
Yeah?
That seems to be the case.
Oh, that's a small
version of it. Yeah.
So this, did this guy make
the dream machine? He also
apparently made virtual fighter.
They love virtual fighter. And
slick lips, which is apparently lipstick
and was it, they say cool guy's
cigarettes? It's just a
strong guy cigarette. Coffin
cigarettes. Okay.
But I don't understand.
Didn't he say he was the inventor of the dream machine?
Yes, I think so.
So why is the dream machine in the mansion?
I think it's going to be revealed that Emma Frost technically designed it and he stole it.
Oh, you know what?
That checks out.
See, as somebody who does work in a corporate environment, this is exactly what it's like.
Whenever I have to present data, I put on my brightest red suit, my loudest shirt,
and I just walk around doing a Jim Carrey impersonation.
Say, those gentlemen.
Ladies gentlemen, we got strong-ey-cigarettes.
Are you impressed?
So, yeah, no, no, he's, it's a marketing thing.
That's always a bad sign in the presentation when somebody asks, what's your point?
Is this what you do?
Like, you walk around and go, listen, man, don't ask me what I do.
What I do is I kill motherfuckers like you, all right?
There's subconscious.
See?
I jab an executive in the forehead.
So he's a mutant, is he?
Did he just like, use his power?
No, no, he.
He's not a mutant.
He's just, because he hates mutants.
They established that.
When he did that, the hand on the head, I thought he was using his part.
Like, shut that guy on.
No, he's just being a dick.
Oh, I mean, he could do both.
Yeah.
Oh, geez, that's the second time he's been told to get to the point.
He had that's got a sting.
So he's going to make them shit themselves?
Yeah.
10 o'clock.
I like how the guy was like, is this supposed to be funny?
I'm like, do you think that's funny?
I think he did say yes.
Do you think eight people
shitting themselves at once is funny?
I mean, it's pretty funny.
Because it's the 90s.
That's what we love to see.
Is it a big sound effect?
Oh, please.
Yeah.
Please.
Oh, some of them are burping.
She gets points from actually making the noise.
Why did he say, gentlemen, there's a lady there?
Okay, I'm confused.
How did he do that?
So he, he, oh man, this is really 90s too.
That is very 90s.
fucking
lawn more man
is this the danger man
or the danger room
danger man
yes it is
no whoa whoa whoa
how did he
how did he make them shit themselves
he used the
the machine
he lets him go into people's dreams
and he can make suggestions
in their dreams
so he basically plans ideas
I'm okay
I'm kind of confused
so he has a copy
that he stole from Emma Frost
and then Emma Frost
made her own dream machine
I'm guessing that's the case
yeah
that's why he has
hates him afrost so much.
But if he has a dream machine where he can make people do whatever he wants,
why is he making them fart rather than giving him more of their money?
Because he's a capitalist, I guess.
I don't know.
No, but if he is a capitalist, why would he make them fart instead of just making them do
what he wants them to do?
Right?
He can make us all fart.
And dangerous.
We can't.
best with this guy.
He's your loose cannon,
Bam.
Brian Filman's here.
Just like your balls, Bob.
Get him, Bab.
He's got off the deep bed.
I'll strangle him in his sleep.
Oh, different background.
Oh, because he's in a dream now.
Oh, looks like he's fucked up.
He's in his pajamas lately.
Now you're asleep.
And I will kill you.
Via Farts.
Again, I think,
this is a good idea and they get shot well
but like
I'm a little confused
is he dreaming this whole scenario
no he's I think the dream
just started like I think it was a smash cut
just showed him in his bed
yeah yeah he's dreaming now
he's asleep but did he dream this entire
no no he's dreaming this part now
yes
so after the farts they all just went home
yeah
yeah it was just a smash cut
for the transition. Oh, we're farting.
We better go. I can't, I got to go.
See, you know, this is a beat
from Batman forever because when Edward
Enigma goes crazy, he kills his
boss. Who was also
played by a famous character actor, I believe that
Begley Jr. Oh, yes. That's what I
was thinking. That's what I, that's
what you were talking about the Jim
Carrie thing. This, oh, that's,
that's, that is exactly
fucking Batman.
Yes. That's what happens.
Yes.
I think that's where most of the budget went.
And Batman Forever also had a little machine that went over your brain and involved your dreams.
When did Batman Forever come on?
Was it 95, I think?
I think so a year before this?
Yeah.
Wow.
Can you imagine these guys writing that script and then see it not film and go, fuck.
95, yeah. Jesus Christ. Batman, 1995.
They're like, we've already started filming and they made this film.
God damn.
We got the fart bit and everything.
God damn.
No, we didn't have a fart bit in Batman forever.
Right.
Make it longer.
No, I'm being the guys who made this film.
They're looking at Batman Forever and going, fuck, dude, they did all the bits we're going to do.
They got Jim Carrey.
They got the guy fall out the window.
What can we do this different?
I know.
Farts.
We'll have a bunch of guys that farting on each other.
Because the Dream Machine, like you said, is pretty similar to the,
Enigma machine.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, this looks like
an actual job.
Yeah, he's stealing.
He sticks stealing the thoughts of those other guys, right?
It's very, very similar.
All right.
New quiz.
What do you guys like better?
This film or Batman Forever?
I like the hook on the nose.
I like the thing on the nose
because like we got to get the smell too.
I think it's supposed to be in front of her face
and it just looks like it's on her nose.
We got to get the nose.
We got to get the smell.
very important. Is this her
house? Are they on a webcam
shot? I love that. It's like
a photo, right?
Like a photo frame?
Yeah.
If it's a photo frame, I love
it. If it's a webcam, I like it less.
I like this, like the astral plane.
Do you believe in hiding?
Is that already said?
I think he's asking where
she's been hiding. Yeah.
Oh, okay. Because he saw her in the
arcade and she's like,
the perfect test specimen for him.
Right, he's like hunting their down.
So is that the astral plane or is that like a dream?
That's a dream world.
Okay.
I do like how they kept the same kind of visual concept for it.
Next time goes over fun.
Yeah, let me tell my dreams that, you motherfucker.
Like when you go to bed, like today I'd like to have a fun dream.
Not one where I get stabbed.
17 times, please.
Get to the nose bit.
So,
I am so confused
about, like,
Angelo's character
is like,
he's like the misfit amongst
the misfits,
but he's also weirdly pushy.
Yeah, I'm not...
Oh, no, he's creepy.
He's spying on a girl in his dreams.
Jeez.
More tits,
but his face says,
I didn't want this,
but his heart says,
as is exactly what I wanted.
Lord, he's so...
He is so over the top.
That's a great shot.
I really like that.
Yeah, yeah, I really like that.
I mean, they have kind of used it a few times in the last five minutes.
But I really, I think.
Exactly.
Like, the budget is small.
They need to fill this up with stuff.
And I think that's a really good way to, like, very simply put over, like, that kind of thing, you know.
Like, the two silhouettes on the big dreamscape.
I think it looks pretty good.
Let's be honest,
they need all the help they can get in this film.
Is he doing a Leslie Jordan impersonation?
I don't know what he's doing.
Here, I'm going to introduce you too in the dream world.
Does she have any idea this is going on?
Was she dreaming that she was brushing her own hair in her bedroom?
I guess.
Is she dreaming of this too?
Yeah, I guess so.
I had a dream of this weird guy in a suit.
Just appeared?
Remember that creepy guy who was following me around the other day?
had a dream about him.
And then they went away.
Then they just stopped talking to me.
Your skin tone seems rather muted.
Now, mind you, in the comic's skin was like gray and he was a little saggy because of the whole skin stretching powers.
Yeah.
Oh.
Wow.
The cop.
The cops just turned up to his fucking house.
Yeah.
They were going to arrest him.
And they remember they had established like, don't unplug someone from the dream machine, but they get lost.
This is him getting lost
But you see it by skin
Yeah
I actually
I actually kind of like that tunnel
shot as well
You save me
You want to get married
So now he's stuck here
So he's stuck at the dream world
Yeah
He seems pretty cool about it
So he is basically the Shadow King then
Yeah
Yeah that's what I was thinking
At Jim Carrey
Instead of astral playing
We're doing dream worlds
Yeah
now I live here
ta-da
yeah see he's like brain dead now
he adapted to it super quickly
yeah he's like catatonic now
we can't arrest this guy if he's asleep
he can't arrest this man if he's
obviously in poor of physical health
Corey let me ask a question about
American police
can they arrest a steeping man
absolutely
well then this film is incorrect
maybe they couldn't in the 90s but that was
when Bill Clinton was president, so.
Dude, Clinton's going to be, whatever.
Did she say she cosmically shit her pants?
Yeah, there was a lot of blanks.
She said her fucking pants.
Did that, is that what she said?
Yeah.
Wow.
It's the 90s.
How do you cosmically do that?
Like, I know how you can physically do that.
How do you cosmically do that?
Do the stars do it?
I'm very confused.
So our A storyline is Matt Fruer in the dream world.
Our B storyline is Angelo pushing the dream machine stuff.
Is this our C storyline?
Is these two having a love art?
These are fucking guys?
Yeah.
Lee and Staley and Courtney Love.
I don't know who this is supposed to be.
Well, so this is Chamber and Husk, but not Chamber and Husk.
which Chamberlust did have a romance in the comics.
These are the new characters, right?
Yeah, these are the two new characters.
And M and Mando get to do fucking nothing.
So it's refrax and what's the girl's name?
Buff.
Like Bagwell.
Jesus stuff.
But you never see it because of a baggy clothes.
Wow, here's some shit.
So wait, is this...
Who's this guy?
Wink at a...
see the guy from I think you should leave.
Yeah.
Is it Robinson?
Yeah.
Looks a little like him.
I'm not even supposed to be here today.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
It does seem very most like him.
It does a little bit.
Corey, have you seen the one he does where he does the, um, where he's singing the song?
Yes.
The Skelons come to life?
Yes.
Oh, that's the funniest one.
And their bones are their money.
So are the worms.
They pulled your hair up, but not out.
John, have you known what we're talking about?
Do you know what we're talking about?
We lost him.
No, no, I know.
Oh, have you seen that bit?
Have you seen that one?
I've seen all of them, but I don't remember that bit.
Dude, it's so funny.
That's my favorite sketch out of the whole lot.
Where they're doing this country song to a producer and the guy's like,
I don't like this stuff.
And the guitarist's like, hang on I got this.
So he turns to the other guys and goes, play along with me.
We're going to do a song in G.
Just follow my lead.
And the bassist is Tim Robinson.
So he's like, oh, I'll follow your lead.
All right.
So the guitar starts doing like a Jimmy Cash thing.
Like, you know, then I went to town and I got all my horse.
And then I saw that lady.
I shot that man.
Yeah.
And then Tim Robbins is like,
that's in the day the skeletons came to time.
Oh, it's so good.
Look it up at YouTube.
Anyway, there's more to this film.
Yep.
So we got to see that M has super strength finally.
She's getting pursued by Greeter's.
So her big show of strength was,
I can hit the big.
Because like no other woman could do that, right?
It could only be as super being weird and creepy.
And this guy's also being creepy.
but in a different way.
Shit, didn't I see you my dream?
It's bonus time.
I feel like a total bitch.
I'm writing out as bonus to Corey.
You make the title of this episode,
it's bonus time.
I mean, I name them after what you put in the thumbnail.
So,
the Spark Avengers watch,
it's bonus time.
The Smart Avengers watch Generation X.
Dot, dot, dot.
It's bonus time.
It's bonus time.
What does that even mean?
I have no fucking clue.
Well, do you feel like he's also laying his accent on really thick?
Yeah.
But again, it feels that way.
What accent is he trying to do?
Well, he's trying to do like sort of American Southwest a little bit.
Okay.
I see.
I thought it was like doing sort of like an exaggerated Mexican accent.
Like a Latino accent.
American Southwest.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like an Adi Guerrero kind of like
Grey Mysterio.
Like
Latino but still like
North America kind of thing.
Quit being creepy.
He's not.
He's won the woman over.
A woman wouldn't go out with a creepy guy.
We got more images showing how strong she is.
Remember how like,
Banshee was like, hey,
don't showcase your powers.
The problem was he said it in such a
heavy accent. They didn't understand what he said.
Hey, don't show, don't show your
don't show your fucking powers.
Well, they're in the car.
The fucking car.
Take your glasses off, babe.
Let me see the laser eyes.
She feels like she's kissing Quentin Tarantino.
Kissing Quentin Tarantino? What does that mean?
Does he wear sunglasses?
Jesus Christ.
Guys, calm down.
he's trying to eat her
that's later
that's his real mutant power
after we see the tids
I think you got that x-ray vision
yeah I just saw something that made me
super happy
I saw your fucking buffed back
dude
it was your tits I was super happy about it
but not gonna go
because I've seen your tits
like why would he run away after seeing the tits
hey jubilee can I see your tits
I'm joking
I don't have to ask
I can just do it
give me the details
I saw her tits
they walked away
what
hold on
I mean he's
yeah I mean
it is a dick move
to be able to go to your friend
and immediately start like
yeah you are
but he walked away
and to be fair
it was the girl who wanted
to think of grass is off
yes exactly
she wanted it
and then he freaked out
he walked away
way.
Yeah.
That's some kind of character development.
Oh, it's these fucks.
That's their team name.
These are all men in their threes.
These subtitles are not grip.
Oh, man, hard art.
Oh, but down on the list,
I like, these guys are like,
we're going to fucking support our own.
You know, we're going to look after our boys.
We hate them, but we hate those other guys too.
Yeah.
Stop saying it.
Oh, he called a pubid.
And he broke his hand on his face.
It's a rumble.
It's a rumble.
By God, I don't believe it.
I do like this visual of M showing up with all these dudes who are holding stuffed animals that she won for them.
That's fun.
But blah, blah, blah.
Guys, who has a better brawling scene?
This film or AW?
I mean, it looked like they made physical contact on some of these people.
That wig just got worse.
This is bad lighting.
It's not great.
I think it's a bad lighting.
It doesn't look great.
At least we got an Eddie better shout-eyed.
That's a night you say.
I don't know why they didn't go with Lee and Celie, but hey, we'll take it.
I love how the guy that looks like Leon Sealy said he was Eddie better.
But you know what?
Just work it.
Oh, Batchie's pissed.
I mean, he's been the nice teacher this whole time, and they took advantage of that
niceness.
Has he?
Yeah, he was like, oh, you can, oh, you can.
Oh, you can drive me car.
Drive me car.
Oh, you can drive me car.
You can drive me car.
Oh, you can drive me car.
Go.
I feel like up to this point, though, there hasn't been a huge, like, really good dichotomy between those two guys.
Like, if this was real Emma Frost, there would be a lot more, like, manipulating stuff going on.
And if this was really bouncy, there would be a lot more, like, him playing off Emma Frost.
Do you know what he mean?
Yeah.
I get that the whole point of this film is to play off.
They're not the focus of the show.
Yes.
I understand that they're trying to show up the kids more than the adults.
But I feel like with a character as strong as Emma Frost,
you should show her off equally.
Like she needs that kind of time.
And then Banshee could bounce off that.
You know what I mean?
Because if you had that more...
The stars of that comic series was Banshee and Emma Frost's like Interplay.
Yes.
That exactly.
That's what I think is...
like a real necessary.
And again,
I know they're limited
by like an hour
and a half of TV show.
Now,
are they saying like,
oh,
we're going to expel you
from the Xavier school
because you used your powers?
I feel like that would be like
the wrong thing to do
in this instance.
Yeah,
because there's only six of you.
So if you all leave,
we have no,
we have no school.
Also,
where is Xavier?
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Important.
So here we're getting
the good teacher,
bad teacher vibe now because she's like all right everybody everybody everybody's kicked out
band she's like hold on now you are kicked out some of you are kicked out see this is good
see this i like this yeah well especially because the villain's main problem is with her
i feel like we've not really gotten a lot out of her no but also not nothing about him and her like
ever interacting.
You understand, like,
the villain hates Emma Frost,
so he's going after her children,
but how do you know children obviously is like,
metaphorically?
I don't mean her biological children.
I mean, like,
I reached these kids.
Yeah, the people that she's raising in the house, right?
I get that.
But, like, you don't really understand
how that guy knows
that those children are being looked after by Emma Frost.
Like, there's a lot of, like,
questions that haven't really been answered correctly here.
And if that guy can go to people's sleep and dreams and stuff, why isn't he going to
Emma Frost's dreams?
I think he has to find them.
And I think he just doesn't know where she is.
Like he found Jubilee and Angelo when they entered the dream machine.
So there was like, it was kind of like a spider in a web, like something interrupted the web.
And that's where you knew.
So they have to go into the machine itself because the machine.
Or not necessarily, not necessarily the machine itself, but he just has to know where they are.
Because he found his boss.
Because the machine is in the Xavier Mansion, and so is Emma Frost.
Yeah.
So like, why wouldn't he therefore know that she is also there?
Well, I mean, that's the thing is I don't think he knows physically where they are.
He just knows when they enter his little dream world.
Right.
So he doesn't know the actual location of the mansion.
He just knows that those two people
It's the dream world.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, he just showed up at this girl's house
unannounced.
Is this a dream, though?
Whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What the fuck?
I think we've just now discovered
this is a dream.
Okay.
Because
that took a really quick turn.
That's really nice of them
because we were like,
is this a dream or not?
And then they answered that immediately.
I like that.
We're really on this dance scene.
Yeah, they're not great at dancing.
What dance is that that he's doing with the...
Like, listen, when I dream and I'm having to dance,
can you put like one bird?
Yeah.
Like way over in the corner.
Is that okay?
Now, please transition this to be Matt Fruer.
Just imagine that.
Like the camera turns in such a manner that it reveals
he's kissing Matt Furrer.
That'd be really good
That's actually really smart
Oh what if
Wait wait
Which one is kissing Matt Bewer
I want
I want Angela to be kissing him
Yeah
Yeah yeah
If the dude was kissing him
Like that's a perfect
That's a great fucking
That's a creepy
Yeah
He was just a creepy
When you were dream
That's creepy
That's creepy that he did that on purpose
I'm like yeah
I fucked her
Like
In the dreams
Are a real problem
In this
Oh that's weird
Also that's got nothing to do
With his skin thing
Like
what the fuck
this has been a trip
hasn't it
yeah
a lot going on
oh so now the other guy
is going to get in his dreams
yeah
so
we're back into the sexy dance
place
the music's playing again
let me get some stuff straight
other guys
catatonic
all right
so he only exists
in the dream world now
yeah yeah he's gone brain dead
so anytime
those guys
that interacted with him in the dream world
go to sleep, he can interact with them.
Yes. Okay. Because he knows
who he is and where to find him now.
Because he's in the dream world and then when they
go to sleep, they're also in the dream world.
I do like him.
It's such a shame. Like you said,
if this was filmed a bit better,
he would be such a great character.
You know what you mean? I feel like the film quality
lets it down a bit. Yeah.
Fuck. You told you to me with my machine?
She's 15.
Yep, creepy.
And I'm 45.
That's right.
I'm Jerry Seinfeld.
Oh, this is good.
I feel so sorry for him.
He plays a good Sherlock Holmes, too, weirdly enough.
Does he?
It's not this over the top, obviously.
Wow.
When does he play Sherlock Holmes?
I think he was like the 2000s?
That was Robert W. Jr.
Yep.
So I went at the big time.
That I think is a good angle
I like the idea
We set up this guy
He can access his dreams
He gets taken out of the dream really quickly
So he's stuck in the dream world
And now his whole angle is
Again, you're correct
Very much like the Shadow King
He wants his life back
He wants his body back
I get that
But now he's threatening his little sister
He looks completely different
Oh no
No
Oh no
It's the 90s.
Oh, the fact that he pushed your head back down, too, is rough.
Yeah.
Back down there.
Get back down there.
You can't see it right now.
She's sucking me off right now.
That's right.
He's 12.
State mental institution.
What state?
Don't worry about it.
All of them?
Oh, I'm stretching it.
So he's trained himself enough that it doesn't hurt him anymore.
But all we've seen him do is dick around with computers and read.
It's hard to see.
I don't know how that's translated.
In that last shot, it's kind of hard to see.
But when he raised his arm up, you could see the shadow of his arm going up.
The shadow went up.
It was kind of hard to see.
I'm like, that's clever too.
Like, that's a good way to get around that.
Do you know what I mean?
Simple stuff.
I don't know what, like, it really is a minimum security thing, isn't it?
Yeah, it really is.
That was the emphasis was the minimum.
Climmed in through the first floor window.
That's all it took.
you the fucking guy.
Like, why wouldn't you just kill him?
Right?
I guess he doesn't know he's a bad guy at this point.
Well, he doesn't realize maybe if he kills his body,
he doesn't necessarily mean his mind his mind is going to die in the dream world.
But the whole point of this guy is he wants him to put his dream self back into his real body.
So then you're like, well, if you really want your real body that badly,
if I kill the real body, he gives a shit of it your dreams, right?
well he already like has threatened to like
terrorize like the people he loves
and I mean we already seen that he's
has the ability to make people commit suicide
well I get that's true
oh shit your pants are controlled
yeah so you wouldn't want that for your sister
hey
it worked
that's it
his his big one liner was I liked it so much
I bought the company
not the best
he didn't say nothing
but Bortga Fighter?
So he pretended to be a zombie and scared off the one guard.
What?
Wait, wait, wait.
Did I miss something?
No, this is how you make a secret lab.
You get a bunch of Tesla coils.
Different suit.
He had time to change.
I'm going to strap you this shit.
But I don't know.
Let me put the yellow seat on.
How he managed to retain him,
the dude literally can stretch his body.
And, like, he had no weapon.
Right.
I don't know why this guy's not fucking retaliating against this guy who has no powers whatsoever.
Because he's got a bull guy game.
He was,
wasn't he like,
more dangerous in the dream world than he is physically?
I mean,
that's what I'm saying.
He's not dangerous in the real life at all.
So like,
why wouldn't you just kill the body?
That's what I'm saying.
I'm listening.
Oh,
I'm moving.
I'm moving.
I've already to get stretched really far,
but I can't.
He's remembering.
that one class they showed them taking.
Is that a C-3 ball gag?
Is it a C-3 ball gag?
That's strange attention to the detail.
Why would that guy go and buy a C-through ball guy?
Maybe he didn't buy one for business purposes, but just happened to have one.
Even so, you have to go out of your way to buy a C-3 ball gag, right?
Listen, in my personal life, never seen a C-3 ball guy.
So
Skin used telepathy to tell Jubilee
He was in trouble
Because she was in the dream tank
She was in the dream scape, right?
No, no, no, no, he just appeared to her telepathically.
No, but weren't they both?
Didn't they both use the dream machine?
Yeah.
They both did it, but that was the point was
He was using what he was taught by Emma Frost
to like put himself in the national plane
and communicate with her.
Okay, that does make any sense.
The way I said made more sense.
they showed them taking.
If it was actually, because they both were the ones that used a dream machine,
and then the other man had the dream machine,
that made more sense than him suddenly being able to manifest
Emma Frostpower, right?
Well, I think another thing to pay attention to is,
it's so weird that his connections with Jubilee is in that that, like,
she's the only one there that's been kind of nice to him.
Because he hasn't tried to fucking be a creep to her.
yet.
There's still time.
There's another dimension there.
It's always been there.
Don't worry about it.
Weirdly enough, this is make me want to get the epic collections of the Generation X comic run.
I mean, true.
I also want to read more Generation X, but it does feel like the way they're talking about the dream dimension.
It doesn't it seem like they're talking about the Asthma Plan?
Yeah.
A lot.
Like a lot.
Like they just couldn't be valid to actually come out and say it.
What kind of commencement?
his entire building.
The building is dream?
Yeah.
What?
I'm going to, sorry, this is a really tense moment.
Can we can, I'm about to tell you guys, you guys are going to maybe die from this.
I feel like this is not the time for your.
Nope.
Hey, this is my last chance.
So, um, I really want to see Emma Frost Niggers, please.
So thank you.
Hey, I'm a gentleman.
I didn't look at your vagina when my x-ray vision kicked in.
Do you what I love about that was he says,
listen, man, I just want to tell you, I didn't look at your dick.
But like,
but like, he can just say that, right?
Like, he totally did.
No, he saw her thigh and then freaked out and stopped looking.
But him going, I didn't look at that.
He totally did, right?
So he could just say he didn't.
Yes.
And then she's like, oh, that's nice.
But he's like, in his head, is like, I fucking did.
Now, I can't remember.
Are they actually going to get physical,
uniforms or because they're going into the dream world, they get dream uniforms.
I imagine because they're like dream wise, they get the dream uniforms.
All right, guys.
But hang on the one room with the fog machine, please.
Yeah.
And the rock climbing wall.
Again, let me, let me get evidence straight here.
They're going into the dream world, but not through the dream machine.
No.
They're going through the dream.
Emma said basically that dream, the dream machine is used by people who don't have strong enough.
psychic powers to get there that way.
This part is happening in real life.
Yes.
This isn't the dream part.
This is real.
And so the other guys are going through the dream door to go into the dream world.
I think they're going to pull him into the dream ally, like a la Freddy Crooker, maybe.
Right.
But they all went through the dream door as opposed to using the dream machine, which is like a bed.
Emma Frost at some point
Made the dream machine
Which was a bed
And then altered that to make a dream door
That was the same as a machine
But you just walk to shave his head with a straight razor
Holy shit
Circumcised
Wait wait wait
Is this the dream or not
Is this real?
Did they go there?
Or is this a dream?
Yeah it seems to be
So this is a dream
They pulled them into the dream I think
So they are dreaming this thing that could happen in real life.
No, it's no, it's, it's no dreams.
This is, this is the psychic world.
No, no, no, no.
So there's the real world where that guy's strapped to the bed with the ball gag.
No, it's not the dream world.
That's physically there.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
The real world is that guy is strapped to that bed with the ball gag in his mind.
That's, in the real actual world.
Yeah.
It's the real actual world.
And so they walked through the dream door to go teleport to the real world.
Yes?
I don't know.
They teleported to the actual part of the world where this is happening.
But the real world.
Yes.
That seems to be the implication.
It's not a dream.
Is he wearing a kimono?
I'm really, hold on.
Oh, no.
I do like the kimono, though.
It is nice.
He just...
he's a real manched to throw her.
So he's in the dream.
He teleported two?
Yeah, he went in first.
Can I just say,
you're pretty good of beating up children.
Well, thank you so much.
I don't know how that isn't a bigger quote.
That is a phenomenal quote.
You're so going to bid it up children.
That's good.
That's the best use of bansies part.
That looked really good.
But they are in the dream because that's the dream world.
They told you.
They kind of pulled him into it.
So they aren't in the real world?
I don't think so anymore.
What the fuck?
Oh, no, he's giant.
But he has a little hand.
Hang on.
Are they in the real world and then outside this house?
It's the dream world.
Because they said that, remember they said the building,
they were going to pull the building into the dream world?
Yes.
So it's the building.
is a building
in the real world
and the outside's the dream world?
I don't...
Can somebody help me?
I feel sick.
So he has powers in the dream world.
Apparently.
So he is a mutant.
No, he's not a mutant.
But he has powers in the dream world.
I think he just knows how to exploit the dream world
because he's kind of the human expert on the dream world.
Which would suggest that he might be.
mutant. Why is his face
green? Do you guys think
that guy looks a little bit like Jamie Noble?
West Virginia's own.
So he's West Virginia and Irish.
Man, that's a lot. That's me.
If you imagine
Jamie Noble doing an Irish accent, that
makes sense. Does he have a know?
Is it an Irish accent mixed with
the West Virginia Appalachian accent?
Doesn't that make sense when he said like that?
Stretchy skin.
Look.
him. Look at him.
Whoa! That looked pretty good.
That's where the budget went.
That's where the budget went. That's the budget.
Wow.
So Angelo sacrificed himself.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, don't you kill yourself. I like you.
I'm going to see your test later.
No, no. It's like you were the only one that's not been a creep so far.
That's interesting.
And they're like, well, guess he's fucked.
well I mean he was a bit of a creep
stretchy skin
oh
big arm
rest of body
so is this a
madam webb experience where they're not going to actually be in a
costume until like the very fucking end
it's looking increasingly like that way
come to me my ax man
which time's left uh yeah there's three minutes left
that's the go home shot is then
one of them in a uniform
Fuck you, mate.
I like the chandel here.
Card game in the 90s.
Out of the list.
So M and Mando
were definitely the two characters
that got no exposure in this.
M had fucking nothing
you do.
Oh, those are Generation X-branded cards.
Corey, you're familiar with Generation X.
Yes.
John, I know you're not.
Corey, if you were to make your own
Generic Nax film...
Here it is.
Would you focus on skin?
No.
No.
All right, there we go.
Costum reveal.
It's buff slash husk.
That is, that is Nicole Bass, right?
I mean, that is a cosmic accurate uniform.
Corey, say it right.
Uniform.
It's your new uniforms.
It's your new uniform.
It's your new uniform's face.
That sounded brilliant.
He's getting ready for a coffin flop.
So he's still alive.
But his brain got disconnected again.
Again?
Yeah.
But now he's just falling through an abyss for all eternity.
It's really angry about it.
I mean, wouldn't you?
I'd be pretty pissed.
Oh, zoom in on the eye, please.
Thank you.
And the end of the credits?
In the credits?
Zoom into the credits?
Yes.
Zoom in the credits.
Yeah, yep, I'll take it.
Generation X will be back in.
Never.
Wow.
Did Jim Lee get a cameo in this?
Is that what I just saw?
It looked like a.
Who was he?
I don't know.
Some extra.
Okay.
That was something.
You know what, though?
I enjoyed that a little bit more than I thought I would.
It was fun, wasn't it?
It was fun.
I didn't totally hate it.
I feel like, John, you could probably corroborate this, too,
because you've seen more films I have,
But like, I feel like...
Oh, those old Marvel logos.
I feel like I've seen worse films than that.
Do you mean?
Yeah.
I don't think...
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
I don't think it was great, but, like, I've definitely seen worse films than that.
And that was so...
I think maybe part of it was because I saw it with you guys, like, we were able to, like, joke about it.
Yeah.
If I watched it by myself, I'd be like, that sucks.
But, like, the fact that the three of us were watching it, I'm like, you know what?
There's a lot of, like, fun stuff there.
Yeah.
A big joke about.
The Irish accent was a gift.
I loved it, though.
I fucking loved how over the top that Irish accent was.
Irish.
Oh, Irish.
Oh, my lucky time.
I bet you just open up your window loud and you just hear this all day.
I would love that guy to actually come to like Dublin or something.
You know what I mean?
Did you get beaten up?
But you know what? Here's the thing.
Like you can hear like when he hear his shame is talking like that's a Dublin accent.
And I love it.
It's like pure Dublin.
Do you know what I mean?
Like that's a Dublin accent.
Yeah.
And he like lives.
He came from like just above Dublin, but like you can tell it's like that area.
You know.
Whereas if you hear like Finn Baller, it's similar but not to see him.
Yeah.
And to see him like you go to court.
He'd be going to Donegal.
If you go off to north like it's very different, you know.
Finn, yeah, Finn's accent's a little.
thicker in the end. Like, it seems like it starts fine and then it gets real strong at the end of every sentence.
And I think part of that's because Dublin's such a very, like, popular tourist attractions. It's very easy to go to. So it's kind of become a lot more homogenized. You know, same of Belfast. Belfast, like, is a place where a lot of people go, they come to Northern Ireland. So, like, that accent gets very kind of like mixed. And then the further out of Belfast you go, the crazier the accent gets.
And to seem with Dublin.
Dublin has a very like, that's what Dublin sounds like.
And then the further out you go, if you're not from here, the further out of Dublin you go,
the more you're going to be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Right.
So that's a fact.
So real quick, because we've been going, we've, we've been at this for about an hour 47.
What were your high points and low points, John?
You've seen more movies than either of us combined.
from your expert opinion
Yes, give us your like film review
Kind of like
Yeah, what did you give this on Letterbox?
Yeah, give us your grid
Well, I haven't given it a grade yet
But I will probably give this
I'm gonna say one and a half stars
I'd have gone to two
I'd have what though
Because I'm always
Whenever people give a grid
I'm always interested
What they would greet it ought of
Do they do at 5?
Do they do 10?
Do they make their own?
grating, because whenever I agree with stuff, I make my own gritting.
Because I think five and tens, that's, that's been done.
So I always grade stuff out of 13.
Nobody else does it.
Don, I would have given it a two.
I don't know why.
I would have given it a two, but two felt right.
A two at a watt?
Five.
Okay.
So John gives that one out of five, and the core use it at a two at a five?
John said one and a half.
Okay.
So we're not that far off.
20%.
I mean, it was a good movie?
I had fun watching it.
Yes, but it still wasn't a good movie.
I agree.
Technically, like, if you're being realistic about it,
it's a terrible film.
Yes.
There were a lot of parts where you were like,
this doesn't make any sense.
There were a lot of points where we were like,
what does this mean? Why is this happening?
Who is this guy?
What, what, what?
Let's, all right, let's, let's hit the, let's hit the, the very obvious things out of the way.
The plot made so little sense.
Correct.
I'm not entirely sure what the villain's motivation was.
Because was it to make money?
Because if so, he had a really weird way going about it.
Because the idea of like, oh, we'll get into people's brains and will influence them and make
them like buy things or do things.
Because we saw that in the beginning in the arcade where he was telling people like,
oh, yeah, put on more lipstick.
Yeah, smoke more cigarettes.
Yeah, I keep playing virtual fighter.
But like, that went off the rails real quick when he started because it's like the mutant experimentation.
Like it wasn't really clarified what was that about?
Right.
I think that's a really good point is that like it seemed like it was a bite manipulating people.
Because they had that whole like boardroom scene where you talked like to the other board members and the shareholders and stuff.
That seems like it's a money-based thing.
But then you're like, well, how exactly are you making money?
of this. Like, I don't quite
understand. Well, so, so I can
see that if it was just like, we'll
influence people to buy things that they don't really
want or need, but because we're going to
go on their dreams and supplant these
subliminal messages, they'll do it.
I get that. That's fine.
But there was no follow up on that idea.
Like, his actions did not match
the idea. Right.
And again, I feel like
part of it was they were trying
to mix up a lot
of stuff from the original
comics and then also try to do
the more modern
Marvel thing of putting the more spin on things
another thing
the mute like the Generation X kids
were any of them likable
like Jubilee seemed unoffensive
of anything but she was kind of a
she was a little bit of a brat at the beginning
but like she seemed fine
the girl that was buff was fine
M's only character
thing was that she was kind of stuck up
Mondo was straight up racist towards Angelo
Angelo was stalking a girl
refrax is just creep
Their powers weren't really explored much either
Like we saw obviously skin
Doing a stretchy stuff
And there was a bit of fireworks with Jubilee at the beginning
But then at the end
Yeah but there was like
Nothing really for most of them
Yeah, we have to see the laser eyes
Two occasions
Yeah
It's definitely a budget thing
Because you think like
I think if they were gonna like try to spend this to a TV show
They were definitely going to go lean more into like
The soap opera-y angsty stuff
Rather than like big power adventure
That's the problem
Is that if you're doing an X-Man
Even if it's a spin-off the X-Man
The budget should be put into
Making the X-Men
Or
whatever
team it is look as cool as possible.
Because wouldn't that budget have been way better spent for a better finale?
That finale, let's be honest, was a bit flat.
There was opportunity there.
There was possibility there.
We never really saw what Emma Frost could do.
We saw two instances of Banshee kind of used as parts.
But again, that was just warping the film.
That's an easy effect.
It's an easy effect to be able to pull.
off, right? The skin
stretching ability for the most part
is also very easy to pull off.
The characters they focused on were all
characters whose powers were easy to focus on.
Like, you don't have to use special effects
for M. You could just do practical effects. Like, when she
punched that punching bag and it blew up.
Buff, we just saw a body
double. Like, she suddenly got like really
jacked arms or her back was like super
stretched or like super built.
Everybody had super easy powers
to make on
this show. Because like, I guess
the one character and let me
if I'm not mistaken I always thought Mondo
was like a villain but maybe I'm
wrong on that but um sync
wasn't in this at all no
like that's what's really funny to me is like all that
stuff like oh well chamber and husks weren't included
like sync isn't even mentioned
and if anything syncs got the easiest
powers because he just copies other people's powers
right if you've already got
the CGI to be able to make somebody's
power you can do it with him as well
but again for me the problem
is most of skins power is
practical and easy to do.
The only issue is
there was one part where they
CGI'd his skins,
his arms wrapping around the dude.
There was one time
when it was definitely like a computer generated
image of his arms wrapping around
a man. And they didn't
need to do that at all. There's
no, there's no way they needed to do that.
It looked all right. It could have easily
been, it could have easily been somebody
tackled that guy and fell off. Because that was the idea
was that he grabbed him and
bumped off the side.
You didn't need extra arms or extra arm length to do that.
Because, I mean, Matt Fruer is not the most physically intimidating individual in the world.
Because that was also to my question when he first got put back into his body and he grabbed
Angelo and he's like, I need your brain.
And it's like, okay, punch him in the fucking dick and get away from it.
But also, I don't know what's preventing him from leaving.
Why does he need this brain?
Experimentation, vague experimentation.
Right. Like, again, we're not being explained the proper stop here. Like, why does he need that guy's brain? That guy deceived you from clearly that. He put his... Well, he was also established as being insane. Like, they did do that. So if you want to, like, wave your hand across his motivation, he goes, well, clearly he's not mentally well. That's why his plans make no sense. And that's how you excuse bad writing. If you want to AW the whole thing, fair enough. Yeah, exactly. So the only other thing I would like to make,
is, I don't know, I loved Vangy's accent.
I thought it was fucking funny, especially with it.
I knew it would be watching with you, Dylan.
Emma Frost
was just a
fucking plank of wood in this, wasn't
she? Oh, yeah.
She had none of the personality, none of the
flair of the comic book adaptation.
But she did have boobs.
She did have boobs.
Yeah, we got that going for, and a really
tacky looking wig.
I, the wig was daff-
like, that's daffney wig, right?
Yeah.
We can all agree.
That's 100% a week.
Yeah.
So, I'm really annoyed that, like, they did Emma Frost like that because Emma Frost, like,
we talked about earlier.
She's such a character.
Like, she's a real character.
She's got real emotions.
She's a really, like, you know, you can stag off the X amount you want, but Emma
Frost is a very well put together character.
And this film, even that's, to be totally fair.
to everything.
When this film came out,
Emma Frost was still in her development
phase.
She wasn't quite the character
she became five years from now
or even 10 years, right?
It was a different character.
Like she's not the Grand Mars and
Emma Frost.
Yeah, I mean, like I said,
this was at the time,
Emma was this character seeking redemption
because her last batch of students
were all murdered.
I understand.
But exactly.
Exactly. That's the thing.
They had established a character for Amher Frost by this point.
It wasn't that she was just a new person that they didn't know what to do with.
She had something to work with.
And I feel like this film didn't capitalize on any of that.
I feel like for the most part, the funny thing about this whole film is,
when you look at all of the X-Men involved, this film did not capitalize on any of them correctly.
we talked about this
Em had like nothing to do
in that film
that's bizarre
you know
if Chamber was in that film
he would have something to do
but his replacement
had just he was just a creep
most of the men were just creeps
which is a weird
character trait
maybe that was what people did
in the 90s I don't know
but like it's weird
that most of the men were creeps
and the two cool people were
buff
Jubilee, who, let's be honest, if we watch the X-Men comic or X-Men film,
if we watched the X-Men cartoon from the 90s,
Jubilee was the worst character because she had no character.
The other people had the young person.
Yes.
And in this film, Jubilee is one of the main characters
based on the fact that her character isn't as shitty as all the other characters.
Like, that's weird.
Yeah.
So do you guys want to do kind of like closing thoughts on this?
I would really like to hear John talk about this from like a film point of view.
I mean, it's it's tough to kind of be too critical about it because obviously it is like a TV pilot that's basically an episode of TV but extended out to try and sell it to people.
So it's not like a big budget movie and it's not going to have the special.
effects or the
you know like the sort of
budget or whatever
that the big
movies have so
in terms of like a TV
movie it's
fine like there's
there's not a lot to it but there's
enough there that you'd think
well I don't know
maybe we could like
imagine going back and watching
more adventures set in this world
but
I don't think it did a particularly good job of
like selling that and making you want to
check out more from these characters
or these actors or
no no no like I said I mean it's just
these characters are not likable
yeah yeah there was not
there was not really a single character that didn't come across
as either like a brat or gross
a buff whose only character was
her character was just
she seemed nice and
incredibly insecure about her body.
Yeah. But that's
the Carveragher trade you could make something out of.
You could very easily. And they didn't.
And I kind of, and I kind of did like
the romance aspect of her and like the one really creepy dude.
And like his like weird little face turn of like,
hey, I, you know, I didn't look when I could have, you know.
Yes. We had no way believing that.
But that's something we have seen in the comics before.
that kind of like shy, bookish person
going out with this brash, jockeish person
and they're coming together
in a way that like compliments both them perfectly.
I feel like this film,
you know, obviously the characterization
of a lot of the people in it
is off the mark, which is a shame.
But the rest of the film, you're like,
it feels like it's really close to being good.
There's potential.
Yes.
And you can see the potential there.
But every time,
you see that potential, it just strays off the mark a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Like, we were talking on how great that guy, the Jim Carrier I was.
Yeah, Matt Furber.
Yeah.
And like, he was great at the beginning.
But as the film went on, you're like, his Jim Carriantics aren't matching up with
everything else.
No, he kept getting more and more off the mark.
Something's not working here.
You know what you mean?
And then the characterization of all of the X-Men characters, like every single one of them,
was just too much off the mark.
mark, like a little bit too far away from what they should be.
Or it's really hard for you to get into any of them.
Like, who do you root for?
If we're going to go back to our SMARC part of our SMARC
Avengers title, who, like, what Fias do you root for here?
Who is the guy you think, I got to, I like this guy, I'm going to root for them?
Can I tell you who I think we are?
The only people we really rooted for was Banshee because of his horrible Irish accent.
And that's not good enough.
Well, Banshee also did seem like the only decent person there.
Like, yes, the accent was really funny.
But, like, he also did seemingly, did appear to be a good character who did seem to have the children's best interests in mind.
Right.
But it's hard to root for that guy when he sounds fake.
What do you mean?
You can't get into somebody who sounds like this.
What do you mean?
He sounds fake.
He's not.
He won't an Irish chick like.
We can do this all night.
We shouldn't.
we really could we really
John, do your eye to attack them
Oh, to be sure
to be sure
See, that's what Banshee sound like
That is exactly what Banshee sounded like
Hart Char, chart, chat, chard
Oh, to be sure
Please be lucky chams
Anybody can do it, it's easy
I was in the middle of trying to say something
and then I just couldn't think I'd say, so we just made noise.
I'm like, that's close enough to what people think Irish people sound like.
Yeah, isn't that right?
Yeah, we're like, short.
I feel like as comic fans, we all know that this was like a really good, potentially good show.
I mean, Corey, you and me have read some of genera.
I haven't read all Generation X, but like I've read some of it.
I'm like, I know that like, this is a really good film to capitalize on it.
Like, if they wanted to, they could have done a really good job with it.
And they kind of fumbled the ball a bit.
Like, there was a lot of, if this was supposed to be just a way to show it off, I get it.
You think, though, that they figured, oh, this is a slam dunk.
We're definitely going to get picked up for a series.
So we don't have to go too deep into this now because we can explore this.
when we have 24
episodes to work
with. God, I wish there were 24
episodes of this.
We could have been doing this forever.
Four episodes!
We're going to shut it down,
everybody. It's been fun.
Way more fun than I thought it would be, for sure.
But that was Generation X.
It had potential.
It was mostly bad, but we had a good time
watching it, and I hope you had a good time watching it with us.
Thank you very much for the
in his episode. I'm watching along with us. We really appreciate it. I hope if you're from
Ireland and you watch this show as well, you understand where I'm coming from. If you're
from America and you watch that show, you're like, I don't see the problem. That was perfect.
Yep, that was the best ever. Yeah. That's what Ireland and sounds like to me. And I'm
one quarter Irish. I love the drop kick Murphys and St. Patrick's Day is my favorite holiday.
And I'm really a big fan of the song, Jump Around.
I love whenever they make the Shamrock McFlorees.
Shemrock shake? Yep. So I'm Irish.
John, do you have any Irish politicalisms to throw in there really quick at the end?
Thank you very much for listening to this. I don't have anything.
John, you want to do an Irish thing?
I did drink a Guinness while I was watching this.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
He set the mood.
I didn't. I just drank every beer other than from Ireland.
I think by being in Ireland while you're drinking the beer, it does make an Irish beer.
I think it's how that works.
I would say that me being in Ireland makes me the Irish contingency, right?
Yeah.
Goodbye, everybody.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you very much for listening.
We already appreciate it.
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Thank you very much.
We love you guys.
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Goodbye.
I love you.
Oh, goodbye.
Oh, goodbye.
Oh, goodbye.
Oh, good bye.
Oh, looky charms.
From the Emerald I.
We say goodbye.
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