The Smark Avengers - Vol 3, Ep 13: The Smark Avengers Talk About Whatever They Want Again

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

It's that time again! Despite having a list of topics they wanted to make a show about, the Smark Avengers said "fuck it!" and are going to talk about whatever! Join Corey, Dylan, and Jon as they disc...uss such topics as Armless Tiger Man footjobs, follow-up conversation on Generation-X, alcohol in Ireland, and even more X-Men talk!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 wrapped up that's good yeah sucks up the work like today well and like what happened was i have one person that's out because they're having surgery and then like they do a really complicated government thing at the at my job and i was like oh well thank god her backup is here so i don't have to do it uh and then on tuesday her backup told me hey my grandmother just died so i have to fly to new hampshire um you got you're gonna have to do the complicated government thing I went, fuck. So I got a crash course reminder on how to do all that shit. And that's been my week is doing nothing but government stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Government stuff. Yeah, we have this thing called I-9. It's like a tax form. Basically, you have to prove through documentation that you're legally allowed to be employed in the United States. And like most of the time it's easy because like you just have to have like a passport or like your driver's license and a social security. card, but like some people who are not from America originally, they have like other documentation that I'm not as familiar with. So I have to do a lot of like research on all right, is this a legitimate form?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Like what are the numbers on it? That kind of thing. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, boring job stuff. Good times. Yeah. Hi, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Welcome to the Smart Avengers. I did not have to verify John and Dillon's I-9s in order to work here. I didn't know that was the start of it. Yeah. Yeah, it's just me doing it. You didn't tell me that we would be recorded. I had no idea. Well, you didn't tell me last week that we were being recorded and you funneled me.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So, you know. That was also weird. No. That is exactly what happened. Okay. Well, you're all right. You got me there. Fair play.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Smart Avengers. I'm Corey. And with me are Dylan and John. And we are, this is just going to be able, do we have a name for these kind of episodes? Shit talking.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Shit talking? Okay. Yeah. That'll do. So, so anyway, the gimmick of our conversation is essentially we are just going to talk about
Starting point is 00:02:26 whatever happens to come to mind. I use an app to purchase comics, or not purchase comics, but to track what I've purchased. It is called Comic Geeks, which I'm not a fan of the name, but it's got a really good, like, tracker of like what's coming out so you can mark what you actually are going to buy, so you're not just wandering around the store. And also, it keeps statistics on your most red characters and your most red writers and stuff, which I can absolutely tell you who I'm currently reading a lot. lot of at the moment. But anyway, they've got a function, like a chat room kind of thing. And it's interesting, like, the kind of stuff people talk about in that a lot of it is people like really, remember we had that episode on The Robbins where I talked about how like they have a huge fan base. A lot of people who go to Conno Book message boards are like those kinds of
Starting point is 00:03:24 fans that just want to talk about like the Robbins or the Bat family comics from like the 2000s because I'm like seeing somebody talk about um the Birds of Prey comic that a Gil Simone used to write. Do you ever read Birds of Prey? No, I heard good stuff about it though. Yeah, no, Gail did a good job with it. I think it was like her big, uh, her big series. Yeah. Well, yes, I think it was probably her big, like, like most prolific series. Yes. I heard claims it was her, like, big series.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, she also had the, her run on Deadpool was very lauded as well. Yeah. Yeah, I really liked it. I know you're looking forward to that X-Men book that she is going to be putting out in the summer. I like Gil's a moment. I think she's a funny cat.
Starting point is 00:04:17 She is really funny. And she loves winding people up. You know what I mean? She absolutely does. Oh, she loves it. But she's so good at it. Yeah. But I love it when I'm so she winds up people that are so easy to wind up and they don't know they're being wind up.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. It's beautiful. Yeah. Have you ever read Secret Six? No. No. You would, I think you would really like Secret Six, John. Actually, in Dylan, too.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So Secret Six is sort of like a take on the suicide squad minus all the Amanda Waller stuff. it's basically just a crew of criminals that are just like trying to get by and the lineup for it is um bane dead shot the second rag doll scandal savage vandal savage's daughter and uh was it silver banshee and there was somebody else but i can't remember who it was but yeah no it was like a really uh a fun series where it just was kind of unrestricted gale in that it was a series that wasn't heavily promoted and it didn't feature a lot of big characters and she kind of could just do what she wanted to do so her sense of humor really came out in it oh catman cat man was the sixth member that's a cigar yep yeah no it was a friend of mine was like super into it i i read it
Starting point is 00:05:47 towards the tail end of the series. But, like, there was, like, some good series storylines in it. Like, I think they talked on, like, Bain's addiction to venom, and they treated it very seriously. Because I remember there was, like, a part in the story where he, like, they were in a no-win scenario and he had to use it. And, like, it was, like, very dramatic because it was like,
Starting point is 00:06:05 oh, they've spent so many issues, like, him struggling with this and, like, finally kicking the habit. And now he has to dip into it again in order to save everybody's lives and just restart the whole process. whole process. It was really good for my understand. I,
Starting point is 00:06:22 like I said, I only read the tail end though. Yeah. Well, you know, I'll give a look. What are your hopes about uncanny X-Men?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Then it doesn't suck ass. Yeah. It's a goal. Fingers crossed. I'm, I'm definitely going to read the Ryan Stegman X-Men series.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think it's, I'm very intrigued by the line. up and the fact this can be based out of Alaska. I'm just so curious what they're going to do in Alaska. I saw the, when we talked about the X-Force lineup a while ago, because they revealed that. And I am,
Starting point is 00:07:03 I am not optimistic about how that book's going to do. Why not? It's just a very odd lineup and the idea of it. I don't know. It just didn't, it didn't really do much for, me. So the main, the leader of the team is Forge. Are you guys a fan of Forge? I don't mind Forge. Oh. Well, he's never really grabbed me to be fair. Forge is really good
Starting point is 00:07:32 with the right characters. Like I really liked him in in some of the more recent stuff. Like I'm absolutely enthralled by the whole like, oh, what's Forge's power? He can invent anything he needs to invent. Like it works kind of like Darwin in that sense. of like he's your solution to every problem, but he's also incredibly arrogant about it. Right. Yeah. But yeah, no, the lineup is just, it's Deadpool,
Starting point is 00:07:58 who is not a permanent member of the lineup from the solicitation. He's only like, it's going to be a book that features guest characters, and he's the guest character. So it's Forge, Betsy Braddock, who I think is still Captain Britain. Serge, who's a character I really liked from New X-Men, Rachel Summers, Sage, and some new character that looks like a giant
Starting point is 00:08:21 red armored guy. Okay. Yeah. What was the guy's name of Generation X? The guy's name in Generation X? Strong guy? No, the film we watched last week. Oh, Mondo?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Mondo, that's his name. Is it Mondo? I don't fucking know. I was doing a bit. A bit did it not go over very well. Didn't stick. Didn't stick. Nope. But no, like I saw like the whole like the idea of this new run post Krakawa was going to be like, oh, it's a return to basics.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So I thought like, oh, is this going to actually be like a return to X-Force basics of, you know, like a cable led team. And it's it's not going to be, which I'm fine with. But it's just like that lineup is not inspiring. I've got the same feelings for it that I do about the was the exceptional X-Mexam. of Kitty Pride and Emma Frost and then like three new characters no one's heard of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say that's the book that I'm least looking forward to in the lineup. Like I do love like Kitty Pride and Emma Frost's characters.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But like, yeah, it's just, I don't know, going by the solicitations is the one that hasn't really grabbed me. It's not, I'm not optimistic about it, that's for sure. They haven't announced. So they did reveal the creative team behind Phoenix, but they've not announced the X Factor book. They did announce the NYX book, though. That one, also I'm not crazy about either, but I don't think I'm the target demo for it. I think they have announced some of X Factor. Like they've said it's going to be like Angel, Havoc, Pyrou.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Okay. Ferrell and Frenzy. Okay. Interesting. It's a lot going on there. Interesting. Frinsey is a character that keeps popping up every now and then in the weirdest places. Is Angel the funder of the group?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Because that was like one of the other recurring bits we had is Angel was in so many team books and that the episode we did on Angel that the recurring theme was just he was the guy that was footing the bill. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure. It doesn't really say. Oh, they kept Pyro's stupid face tattoo. That's terrible. He's a face tattoo?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Pyro from back in the day. He's dead and gone. This is a brand new. This is Marauders, Pyro. Wait, why can't they bring him back? They did bring him back.
Starting point is 00:11:10 This is regular pyro. This is Australian pyro. He just, um, he got a face tattoo. in an issue of Marauders of just like a skull, a black skull over his face. And they've not, they just kept it. Because I remember like that was a big, there was a big dramatic moment in like the Marauders book where Kitty
Starting point is 00:11:32 Pride was just like finally accepting like her new current status until they changed her current status again. Where as a pirate captain, she got hold fast tattooed across her knuckles. Well, then she got killed by Sebastian's Shaw and they resurrected her. have her tattoos anymore because it was a brand new body. But they have not done the same for Pyro who's still walking around with a fucking skull tattoo over his face.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I feel like this is a problem, but like making such a giant storyline with a lot of interconnecting threads that need to be, you know, paid a tattoo. Yeah, if this is a return to basics, it's an interesting choice. So I'm fine with Angel, because it is Angel. It's not Arch Angel, but I guarantee you we're going to get an Arch Angel storyline at some point. Oh, yeah. Havoc is fine. Havoc's been such a weird character since
Starting point is 00:12:18 Uncanny Avengers though Because he like went evil Yeah, yeah And then like in Dark X-Men That miniseries they had not too long ago He straight up died And Goblin Queen
Starting point is 00:12:32 Resurrected him So he's got like a zombie body So it doesn't look like he has that in the preview art So that's probably for the best But you know I'm looking at this lineup And I don't feel X-Facted I feel more X-Force than anything, especially with Farrell there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It feels more X-Force to me than X-Factor. Feels more X-Force than X-Force. Yeah, that's for sure. It's like they're trying to, like, change up what the teams mean, but then you're like, why, you've already established what they are. Well, yeah, especially when they've made that big push of like, oh, it's returned to return to basics X-Men. And like the X-Men and the uncanny X-Men lineups are kind of the,
Starting point is 00:13:16 most uninspired choices in the world. I mean, you've got the one team of like, rogue, gambit, night crawler, Wolverine, and then the other team, which is, yeah, and you got the other team, which is like Cyclops and Juggernaut and Magneto and shit. There's nothing off the wall about those. So then to do that to the ancillary books is a choice.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Oh, well. Yeah, I guess they can't keep going back to the well and the same old, same old time after time, though, can they? So that's fine. I don't object too hard too. I'll still check out the X-Factor book because I do like the angel character. I just kind of hope they do something with him that isn't.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I'm going to fund this team and then eventually I'm going to turn an archangel and go crazy. I always liked when they blended it together, like that period of time where he had like normal looking skin and metal wings. Yeah, yeah. Or when they did the inverse, they had blue skin and feather wings. That's weird, though. Those are really the only two options they can have. I don't like having the blue skin and then like regular wings.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah, I remember that because it's like his wings got fucked up. And they shattered and revealed that his feathery wings had been growing underneath them the entire time. Yeah, but we talked about this in an earlier episode. Guys, if you haven't listened to it already, go back to listen to the Angel episode. But like, yeah, yeah. They tried so hard to do stuff with Angel. and like it's just so uninteresting. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Like it's nobody, nobody really. And I feel like people write an angel and I, they're just going to forget about that stuff because that's not important. Yeah. You know? Well, yeah. I'm curious if they even bring up X-Corps at all.
Starting point is 00:15:00 What? I'm curious that they'll even bring up X-Corps at all. I thought X-Corps had a really interesting concept of the whole like, you know, like we're the business side of the X-Men and the lineup was really good of like Angel and, Monnet, you know, M, who had like the same kind of character thing of like snobby rich people who had like the evil homicidal side that they were keeping in control.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And, um, you had multiple man and you had the character Trinary. And then they threw in some really weird fucking ones of, um, wait, wait, wait, wait, who is Trinary? Trinery is a newer character they introduced. Um, she can basically, communicate and can control machines. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Like at one point I think she had like a pet sentinel. Did she ever do anything with Forge? I bet she did actually. Because if they didn't, like that's missing the trick. That's a feud right there. You get three months out of that one. Easily. We always end up
Starting point is 00:16:12 talking about X-Men. Well, do you guys want to know? There's so much to talk about it. There really is. I mean, it's a lot of characters. Yeah. Do you want to know about my stats on this? Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah, yeah. All right. So this, it gets so specific. I can tell you who my top letterers are. And for those who are not familiar, a letterer is the person who actually goes in and hand writes all of like the dialogue into the word bubble. Like that is somebody's entire job because it is a very special skill to write that small.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So according to this, my top letter is Clayton Cowles. And I'm scrolling through the stuff he's done. Oh, so yeah, Batman, Captain Marvel, Star Wars, Daredevil, Venom, X-Men. Yeah, there's a, apparently it is like the buyer's market. if you are a letterer in need of work, this is a great time for you, because this guy does fucking everything. Any letterist relation to the show,
Starting point is 00:17:21 please apply to Marvel or DC, and you'll absolutely get a job. Yeah. Top colorist, top cover, top interior artists, top writer. No top anchor, though. And again, for those who aren't, for those who aren't aware,
Starting point is 00:17:36 an inker's job is to do like all of the black, like all of the black work in the, the comic. So they kind of work in conjunction with the colorist. But like again, inking is such a specific skill. You kind of need that to be your gig. What's your top cover? My top cover writer or top cover artist is a Rafa Sandoval. Okay. And a second after him is Jorge Jimenez. Dan Mora is tied for third, which is that's about right. Dan Mora, Bruno Redondo. Those check out.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Bruno Redondo does the covers for Nightwing. Dan Mora has been doing the covers for the Batman Superman comic World's Finest. And just, I love Dan Mora's work. Dan Mora has such a, like, playfulness to his character designs.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It's really good. And Bruno Rondos Nightwing art is so dynamic. Like, that's one of the things. Nightwing is an interesting book for me because it's so fucking fluffy. Like, I don't like it for that reason, but it's one of my favorite books. I can't make sense out of it. And I mean by Fluffy is that at no point does it ever feel like Dick Grayson or Barbara Gordon
Starting point is 00:18:58 or any of the other characters in the book are in any sort of danger. Like, it seems like everything is nice and happy and things resolve in the end. And for some reason, it bothers me because there is no stakes for the most part. there seems to be stakes, but it doesn't feel like there's stakes. And yet I enjoy it. You ever have a book like that where it's like, I can see the problems, but I still like it. Probably. I can't think of any of the top of me had, but I'm sure there's books I like where people are like, why do you like that book?
Starting point is 00:19:27 I'm like, ah, you know, it's cute. John, I bet it's carnage for you because you listed carnage as one of your overrated characters, but then informed us you had read like most of the miniseries that have come out. Yeah, but I didn't. enjoy a lot of this mini series. Like there was the one where
Starting point is 00:19:47 he's basically like trying to unlock the power of an ancient evil god and that was pretty cool. And you had like Eddie Brock was on the team trying to stop him. And I think John Jameson as well
Starting point is 00:20:03 who's gone from astronaut to... Air Wolf by night? Oh no. No, man. That's somebody else. Yeah. Where will? We'rewolf by night is Jack Russell, which I always thought was fucking funny because that's a type of dog. They pick the least intimidating dog.
Starting point is 00:20:22 He's going to turn to a fucking werewolf so that look out. So I have top writers as well. And I also have top characters. Here's your characters. I will tell you, it is. a thorough list. I can give you my top 238 characters. Yes, start from 230 and work your way down. All right. No, no. So, like, do you want to do top 10 or do you want to do less than that?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Top 10, I think's fair. Yeah, yeah. So this is like a multiple person tie for number 10. So this is all based off of like have these these characters have appeared in the books you've been reading recently. Like that's how it's determined. So number, so it we have Green Arrow, Chakall, who is a, oh boy, do I want to get into explaining what that's like maybe later? Brainiac, Amanda Waller and General Zod, and Barry Allen's Flash, which is really funny because I am not currently reading any Barry Allen flashbooks.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I have no idea where he's coming in on this. You love the flash, though. Yeah. So next up is a different version of Brainiac, Parasite and Lex Luthor and Lobo, then Dick Grayson's Nightwing, then Lois Lane, then Batman, and number one is Superman.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh, yeah, you do love Superman. That would have been my guess. So do you want to know, like, I also have my overall, because you can go in and log, like, the books you've been historically reading. So overall, my most, are my top five characters are Richter, M, Multiple Man, Superboy, and Asriel is my top one at all. 107 comics. Wow. And my top writers, my top, well, I'll give you my top three writers are James Robinson,
Starting point is 00:22:53 Dennis O'Neill and Peter David. That makes sense. Yeah. I can see that. I know you're a big Peter, David, fine. Yeah. Yeah. I've read a lot of stuff just because Peter David was the writer on it.
Starting point is 00:23:08 He is good. They did a recent, they did a recent comic about, Genus Vales Captain Marvel. Like it was like an update and like, where's this character been kind of thing? And I had never read that character before, but I just knew it was Peter David, so I read it. Fair enough. And I had a book on like how to write comics that was written by Peter David. And like a lot of just the, a lot of the story writing kind of information that was there is still very like, it sounds super basic.
Starting point is 00:23:39 But when you really like think of it and you think of like, examples of bad writing. You're like, oh, how the fuck do people miss that kind of thing? Yeah. So the top one being, it's something I say quite a bit is, you know, conflict creates content. So you need to have foils when you are writing characters. You need people who are the opposite. With like the best example being the Fantastic Four, you have both visually and personality-wise, the characters are foils. So you have the super stretchy but cold and logical Reed Richards compared to the, you know, living rock monster who is super emotional thing.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And then you have you have the kind of mild-mannered invisible girl or, you know, invisible woman compared to a literal flying, hot-headed flameball, human torch. So, you know, like you have characters that are going to clash personality-wise. And you can get a lot of content just off those interactions. I see. He also went into detail on like the three storytelling types of, you know, man versus man, man versus nature and man versus himself. And provided great examples of each. And also man versus machine and man versus dog.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Man versus, I mean, man versus machine will take us back to armless tiger man. Yes. he was all man versus machine he really doesn't like those machines understandably so he's a tough time yeah exactly if dude if a machine ripped your arms up you'd be a little bit
Starting point is 00:25:25 miffed there's also man versus food as well I guess this is your fellow country man man versus was it man versus nature with bare grills yeah but wouldn't you rather be man versus food where he just eats like hot dogs all day. It's a pretty sweet gig to be fair.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah. As the Bret Rels is out there like trying to like build his own house out of twigs and like survive by like drinking his own piss. And then Adam Richmond is like, I'm going to eat 78 hot wings. What's really funny is like, so where I live in like a larger city, I can just go to certain restaurants and it will be like a picture of him and like some ungodly amount of food and be like. man versus food was filmed here on this particular date. It's wild, man. Whenever you watch that show, because it went for like three seasons or whatever,
Starting point is 00:26:24 and by the time you know which season it is, because by the time they get to season three, he looks really sick. You know what I mean? He looks super sick. His caloric intake was wild. Then like he stopped doing that show because he's like,
Starting point is 00:26:38 I have to stop doing this show because guess why? I'm going to die. I'm sick. I'm like, well, really? We had no idea, right?
Starting point is 00:26:47 And then recently I find out he's back making food programs again. So I saw like a video he was doing where he was like eating British, popular British foods and trying to rank them. And I'm like, dude, no offense whatsoever. You know, aging takes a whole of us all.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But Jesus, fuck, you look worse now than he did 15 years ago. when you were eating 86 hot dogs at once like what happened dude I thought you stopped doing this show to get better you look terrible
Starting point is 00:27:20 is it just because you're eating like treacle tart over in the UK is that what's happening John I don't know if you've seen that show but like he starts eating all these like British foods and he has to rank them but like he doesn't rank him
Starting point is 00:27:33 he doesn't eat them all and then rank him he like eats one and then guesses where it goes on the list what yeah which is just stupid I don't know who came up for this fucking list It's fucking dumb, right? But then he gets to number one
Starting point is 00:27:46 And the very last one he has to rank Okay, let me see Who gets this, John, you might get this Corey, you're not going to get this The very last thing he has to rank is Buckfast Oh, what is Buckfast? John, you don't get that either? Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:28:05 This is a very popular drink in Ireland and in Scotland because I think they brew it in a monastery somewhere in Scotland. And it is, they call it a wine. It is not wine. It is terrible. It's like 15% and it's full of caffeine and sugar. So it's alcoholic and it's caffeinated and it's got sugar in it.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And over here, I don't know about Scott. I know it's big in Scotland. over here, people drink it to keep themselves awake during the night of drinking. It's a scene. Yeah, it's bad. And he, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:28:48 oh, it's nice. I'm like, it's not nice. It's fucking awful. I thought that was funny because Buckfast is like a, it's, it's like the AEW of drinks.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It's very specific to a very specific part of the country. And that's clear because John didn't know what it is, but I do. Because I know a lot of people that drink Buckfast and a lot of people that get angry when they go to a bar and Buckfast isn't available. And I'm like, guys, have you ever thought about drinking something nice? Let me tell you this. If you ever see it out, never buy it yourself. If somebody else has some, take a drink of it, see what you think.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Do not buy a bottle of it. It's not worth your time. Okay. Trust me. It's a horrible drink. It's just somebody told me, they said, I had a drink. of it. I'm like, this is disgusting. And they said, yeah, but you get used to it after you drink
Starting point is 00:29:42 a whole bottle. I'm like, yeah, but then I would have to drink a whole bottle of it. What's the fuck's wrong with you? That's Arden for you. A weird place, man. Remember I saw a video on, I think it was TikTok, that was nothing but Irish people trying
Starting point is 00:30:00 American whiskeys and liquors and being marveled at how high the proofs get made here and how some of them are just like straight up gasoline. Like I've had some really gnarly stuff that just it tastes like lighter fluid. And you're like, yep, that does taste like it's 90 proof. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I mean, over here again, like in Ireland specifically, I think in Scotland, I don't know what the whiskey scene is like in England. But like there's a lot of like whiskey distilleries. in Ireland and we, you know, Ireland takes their alcohol very seriously. I've gathered. Which I like, you know, it's kismet. You know,
Starting point is 00:30:48 I grew up in the right place. But, yeah, I think that sometimes in America they're like, he gives a shit of my taste, right? I mean, that's the thing. There's a large percentage of people who drink here just through the
Starting point is 00:31:04 side effects. They do not do it for the enjoyment. See, I know a lot of people that drink whiskey and they drink it because they love the taste of whiskey. I'm like, that's really interesting, you know, because I wouldn't, I don't drink spirits at all. I don't drink beer. But it's interesting that
Starting point is 00:31:19 there's so much variation in whiskey where you can tell like the different flavors, the different taste of it. That's quite interesting. Yeah, I'm looking at my corner cabinet right now because I have like a couple of bottles of stuff sitting around. Do they have, do you guys have fireball there? Do you know what fireball is?
Starting point is 00:31:36 I know what it is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Like, the most common, like, I don't know too many people who drink it straight just because, I mean, it is cinnamon. But, like, a common thing I've seen is people put a shot of it in, like, apple cider because it tastes kind of like apple pie. It's very unusual. Apple pie? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:02 But then why would you want whiskey that tastes like apple pie? Like you said that, again, I think some people here just drink for the side effects. And they're like, if it can be a more pleasant experience as you get absolutely trashed, then by all means. I see, that's what I think. I just remember somebody who got really drunk on fireball and threw up and said that it felt like their throat was on fire. We've all been there. We've all been there. But like, they sponsored like a gig I went to a few years ago where it was like less than Jake and Marietchial Bronx playing.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Oh, my God. You saw Marietchial in Bronx? I've seen them loads of times. But yeah, that's great. They were given out free fireball shots. And yeah, it wasn't the best drink I've ever had. No, it's not. It's a gimmick.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I also have Jameson, which I don't know if it's quote Irish whiskey, Dylan. You'll have to confirm that for me if that's legitimate or not. I believe it is an Irish whiskey, yes. Okay. It's hard to tell sometimes around here. I also have I also have Yeagermeister because that's fun
Starting point is 00:33:13 Sometimes man You just got to do a little Yeagie bomb as a friend of mine would say Okay Gotta do a Yeagie bomb Why does he say Yike
Starting point is 00:33:27 With a Y on us Like a baby would say Yeagermeister No no it's a Yeagie bomb Because maybe you don't want to say all the syllables Yeah, dude. You're not all that drink.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Shut your mind. That's why I said to my kid all the time. This is why they took them away from me. There was this bar I used to go to when I lived in a different part of Ohio that their special gimmick drink was they called it the hot nut. It was a shot of like, it was a shot of like, hazelnut liquor in a cup of coffee. Boy, we have fun.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Oh yeah, have you guys had any more thoughts about Generation X since we watched it? I have thought about that stretchy arm a number of times. I don't know why. I think, like I said on the show, some of the cinematography I really liked. And the shot where you see like the stretchy arm in the foreground and the guy in the background, I think it's a really good shot. You know, so I have like, sometimes, I also thought about the guy, the mask. What was his name?
Starting point is 00:34:47 The mask. What was the guy's name? Oh, Matt Thruher. Yeah. The actor. Jim Carrey guy. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Russell Tresh, I believe. Because he was dressed like the mask sometimes. Yes. Yeah, he wore really loud suits. The problem was he didn't wear a mask. So I can see where the confusion would have arisen. but he was so interesting as a character
Starting point is 00:35:12 that he's the kind of guy he kind of like keep thinking about the thing I didn't like on reflection a lot of it just didn't really make any sense no I don't think it was a very well-written show but the people in it were pretty good
Starting point is 00:35:29 you know if they tool it up a little bit better I think it would have been a much better show Has it made you want to go and watch more Matt Fruer movies or TV shows? Well, what else is he in? I think he was in Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, back in the day. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah, yeah. Wow. I've seen that like years ago. That's one of those films you see when you're a kid, and then you're like, I haven't seen it, I don't have to see it again. I'm pretty sure he was in Zach Snyder's Dawn of the Dead as well. I haven't seen it. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh, my goodness. Is it good? Yeah. It's probably Zach Snyder's best movie, to be fair. Like, I watched... That's not hard. Well, I know. I watched the second part of his Rebel Moon saga is like Star Wars rip-off.
Starting point is 00:36:26 This week. So boring. Rebel Moon? Yes. It's basically he was... I don't know if he was... hired to write a Star Wars movie or if he just wrote it on his own and brought it to Disney and they were like, we don't want this. But he basically re-engineered it into his own like sci-fi galaxy hop-in series.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And yeah, Netflix were like, hey, we'll pay you a gazillion dollars to this. And so yeah, they've they've like released two of them now on Netflix with the promise of of like a Snyder cut coming down the road as well for each of them which would be like twice as long and yeah this fucking Schneider cut thing is doing my fucking hat in
Starting point is 00:37:17 I'm like dude if this guy was a good director he could direct one film once yeah why are there so many like oh if I did my real cut I'm like you're the director you do the cut we're doing why does there always have to be three cuts of your fucking films
Starting point is 00:37:33 how are you this bad and be a director You know, if you can't tell your story in like two hours, like if you have to take four fucking hours to tell your goddamn story, maybe you're not a good storyteller. Because this happens every time where they're like, oh, the Schneider cut's great, it's four hours long and it tells all the stuff you need to tell. Like, so, you know what I mean? Like, Toy Story was an hour to half and it was fucking perfect. What are you talking to me with the Snyder cut? What else could they have added to it? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:04 It was like wall to wall to all perfect. no no extra fat on it whatsoever lean as a motherfucker told the story buzzliger was in it he broke his wing he's perfect redemption at the end of it they sing the song credit's role right I didn't expect to get into toy story but you know what I mean like the Schneider cut stuff like it just does my head in because it's just a easy excuse you're the director it's your film but they've weaponized it as well now it's like turned into like this really cynical like marketing tool for Netflix where they're like oh we've released this version but then
Starting point is 00:38:43 there's this three hour version that we're going to release in six months time so you better watch that as well you think that is like a Netflix like bargaining thing like hey man make a film on Netflix and you can make like four different versions of your fucking film yeah one I heard it didn't really go over well though no John, did you watch it?
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, it was super boring. Like the first one, oh, sorry. Oh, no, you go ahead. Yeah, the first part was sort of about bringing this rag tag group of people together, but it did such a shit job of, like, establishing who they were as characters and what their backstories were, how they fit together. It was just like, here's. this guy here's that woman and it's like what okay why should we care about them and then this second part which got released like a couple of months ago now just didn't follow up on it either it was like they had one scene where all these characters were like sat around a table and like all basically telling their origin stories of why they hate this evil galactic empire and it was like the same story for each of them like the empire came and killed how many people were telling the same
Starting point is 00:40:11 story that's like four or five of them like i i don't know it was it's just so bland and boring and like lazy i think that offends me more than anything else is just how lazy the storytelling is like one of them had like a mother his name is martha and then one of the other guys like my mother's name is Martha. How do you know? This is great. We should be best friends. My mother's name is not.
Starting point is 00:40:39 So here's a question for you. Everybody's fucking mother's name is Martha. They sit here in the table. My mother was also and then they're like, is it the same mother? What's going on here? Anyway. So I was going to ask John,
Starting point is 00:40:55 how many movies have you seen so far this year? I am now up to 296 damn what was the last one the last one was called the road to wellville
Starting point is 00:41:10 which was about dr kellogg dr kellogg yes so the weirdest book is coming out this week and i'm so confused by it i'm going to pick it up when i go to the store but it's giant size x-men number one
Starting point is 00:41:25 and i just want to read the solicitation because it doesn't it doesn't seem like it has anything to do with anything. Yeah, yeah. So this is the solicitation for it. The avenging angel loses himself at a dangerous maze of the mind. A mysterious card has lured the dashing
Starting point is 00:41:44 Warren Worthington III, aka Angel, to a quiet New York City Street, where he will undergo a torturous trial unlike any he's ever faced before. A brand new villain has it out for mutant kind and aims to start by knocking Angel out of the sky.
Starting point is 00:42:00 including a reprint of the Marvel 2 and 1 by Mark Grunwald, Ralph Machio and Ron Wilson, a classic Angel and Thing team up, tale of daring, drama, doom, and disco? Disco? By the way, this is not the same Ralph Machio who was the karate kid, just to put that out there. Yeah, I had, I figured,
Starting point is 00:42:21 I find this side myself. I'm like, there's two Ralph Machos, one of the chances. Yeah. So again, I just like, this is coming on. this week. It doesn't seem like it has anything to do with any of the stuff
Starting point is 00:42:34 that's going on with the Krakawa X-Men or this future X-Factor book. But yeah, I don't know. Is this still part of Krikawa? Most likely, no. It's apparently set in the present day, but it has nothing to do with Krikawa.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Well, I think that, like, the thing about that Krikoa stuff is that like, now that it's kind of, well, on its way to being over. It's wrapping up. Yeah. they're going to do like the hard reset and be like remember it'll be like like whispers in a win you know what you mean like they'll they'll barely reference it but for the most part they'll just fucking charge ahead with their own shit because that's the thing that's what annoys me about modern comics is that recently and my say recently I mean like maybe like the last five 10 years whatever but like any of the big stuff that happens
Starting point is 00:43:25 it feels like it just kind of like circles around to the status quo and again maybe this is like a conversation for a different podcast, but it feels like everything kind of circles back and they're like, well, remember, we're back where we started because the Krikkoa had so much like potential and stuff they could do.
Starting point is 00:43:43 But if you look at them back now, the storyline is mutants are once again, like, hated by humans. I'm like, this is what they were 30, 20, 50, 40 years ago. This is the Siam. They've just kind of, they, it's like they did the Kikora storyline.
Starting point is 00:43:58 and now that it's done, they've rubbed it out. You know what you mean? And I feel like that's happened with so many of the older, bigger storylines from the last, I'm going to say 20 years. I don't know if that's accurate. But I feel like the way that media
Starting point is 00:44:14 works these days is that they need to create something big and impactful to keep people's attention and because of the nature of comics, they need to circle back around again and reset everything and then start back where they were.
Starting point is 00:44:31 We talked about Ben Riley a few weeks ago. That was such an interesting shake-up to Spider-Man, but at the end of it, it just resolved into Spider-Man fighting the Green Goblin, which we have seen plenty of times. Spider-Man and Dr. Octopus, whenever he became superior Spider-Man, really interesting, but I knew off the jump straight away.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I'm like, it doesn't matter how long it lasts, because I've seen the Clone Saga, doesn't matter how long this lasts they can stretch it out as long as you want it's going to end up with Peter Parker becoming Spider-Man once again which is what happened everything that they do
Starting point is 00:45:07 in comics for the last I don't know a long time just always ends up circling round again and it's such a weird thing because they try to make it so big and Mabastic and like lasting like this is going to shake up the Marvel universe but it doesn't
Starting point is 00:45:23 you mentioned Marvel you mentioned Marvel I think Marvel I think Marvel's like the biggest offender of it. It feels like Marvel has like, they keep launching this brand new era, all new, all different. And then like two years, three years, it's like there. It's another brand new, all new era. And I say this as like a big primary DC fan who's like had the crises that reset fucking continuity. But it does seem like that.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Marvel's method of going about it feels, I don't know, sneakier. Because like in DC they at least like this is all big. production. And in Marvel, it just seems like stuff gets forgotten. Yeah. You know, I used to think that, like, back in the day, the way it used to be was DC would come up with, like, big, crazy storylines that shook up their entire foundation, and then would reset themselves three weeks later. They used to reset their entire universe, like, what? They've done it like three or four times now. Just in a way to, like, we tell the stories. Right. It's been really bad in the last, like, 20 years, like you mentioned. Because, like,
Starting point is 00:46:26 said they reset to, they had flashpoint to new 52 and then new 52 to rebirth. So, and then there was another one that was planned called 5G during the pandemic that got canceled. And which is like great because it like on paper, it sounds fucking terrible. But like to your point though, Marvel with their big crossovers and stuff, it doesn't really seem to have like any consequence to it. it's just the only purpose is this is this year's big crossover this is this this year's big event and like okay cool but like it has like something has to happen something has to have some kind of lasting consequences to it
Starting point is 00:47:10 it's a thing that really grinds me by comics and i think we've talked about this on a different show was that i was initially very skeptical by krekoa because the joke in comics is that everybody comes back to life anyway and then in Quicoa, they just brought, the storyline was they're going to bring everybody back. This is a tough sell to people to make that death like obviously like irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And so now they have to like reset that and go, we've already done that. We've already proved that death isn't, that is irrelevant, but also we're going to have to try to live in this world where we pretend that it isn't. Like that's this, it's a top sell, but they're going to have to do it because, that's the only way they can keep doing stories because they went not that they went too hard with kirkowa but like
Starting point is 00:47:59 they were very ambitious well i think they did go too hard with it they went too big at least like it was such uh like profoundly war-changing like shake-up of the x-men and uh like this the the mutant standing in the world that like yeah how can you go back to the way things were after that. But they're gonna have to. Exactly. That's exactly it. Like they just did.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They just went back to it. They had drugs which basically cured cancer. Cured every wellness. Yeah. And now they're just gonna go back on all of that. Apparently. Like that doesn't make any sense, but they have to because how,
Starting point is 00:48:47 like, because once you go that hard, where do you go from there? Well, I'm kind of curious now. Like, what was Hickman's solution going to be? Because, like, Hickman dropped because he wanted to, like, he had an endpoint for Krakawa, but it got so much support and had done so well in the sales that Marvel was like,
Starting point is 00:49:08 well, we don't want to end this now because we're still making money off of this. But yeah, no, it's like. A little bit like the clone saga, doesn't it? Oh, we can make money off this. We'll just stretch it out a little bit longer. Well, and like the clone saga, like the Life of Riley's site, one of those things I kept seeing was they brought in new people and this was their ideas to keep it going. And like, that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Hickman left. And then they gave more of the power of the book over to Jerry Duggan, who I am not the biggest Jerry Duggan fan in the world. But yeah. Yeah, I think he's fine. But I don't think he's the guy you want leading your, you know, your universe essentially. No. I would agree with that. So I heard really good things about the first issue of Blueprint.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Blood Hunt, which is the new big event comic at Marvel right now that involves like Daredevil and stuff. Yeah. I heard there's some big deaths in the first issue. Really? And a heel turn as well. Really? So I was talking to, so the local comic story on the manager, who I found out as like friends with Brian Michael Bendis and shit. But he was telling me about it.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Like he was giving me the hard sell on it when I was there like two or three weeks ago. He was like, have you any interest in reading this? And I've taken some recommendations for him before. And like, Dylan, remember I told you about eight billion genies? What? Eight billion genies. Yes, you did. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah. So, like, that was a recommendation from him. And it was amazing. And the other, but the other book that he recommended to me was Canary, which was by Scott Snyder, who I, I, I, I had the exact same feeling about it that I have every Scott and Snyder book, which is like, hmm,
Starting point is 00:50:54 interesting premise, good start, hated the ending. Yeah. So I'm like a little 50-50 sometimes on his recommendations, but, but yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:51:05 he was giving me the hearts all and blood hunt talking about how cool it was and how unique it was. And it reminded him of like the 90s comics because of some of the characters it featured on. Because 90s Marvel featured like, Morbius, the living vamp. Pire and cloak and dagger were a big part of it and the Danny Catch Ghost Rider and, of course, Vendom and Carnage and stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So it did feel like, he said it felt like it was like a return to that era of like the old school like Midnight Suns, Marvel Night kind of deal. I'll have to try to look up spoilers now though. Yeah, like do you know anything that happens in it? I read a few things. With the heel turn? I'll cut this out. for spoilers sake.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah, yeah. What we're going to do is we're going to hear about it. We're going to cut it out. And then after that, you're going to hear us go, wow, that guy? Works for me. So welcome back to those who we just time traveled a little bit. That's an interesting concept because, yeah, because I mean, he's, well, boy, can't say too much without revealing anything about it.
Starting point is 00:52:14 But yeah, no, it's an interesting concept. And like you said, the guy who runs the comic book stores, super fucking jazzed about it. Although fun note, I did tell him about our show and that we just did the Ben Riley episode and he was telling me how that the issue that started
Starting point is 00:52:32 all of that, the one from like the 70s Dylan where the Peter bought the clone and then dumped his body in the the smokestack. He was like, that's the comic that got me into comic books. I went really. He's like, yeah. He's like, I just saw a cover of Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:52:49 fighting. fireman and I went, I've got to figure, I got to read this. Well, you see, that's your thing. It led to him being friends with industry professionals and big names and having, basically running a fucking comic book store. So there you go. We have to, we can take the clone saga for Gibb being in my life. The thing is, whenever I was reading the clone saga, the thing that got me into it,
Starting point is 00:53:08 we watched the TV show, me and my brother, the cartoon series, but we were in a show, we were in Eastons. That's for John. We were in Easton's one time. and we saw the cover, which was Spider Carnage. And I'm like, I love Carnage. We like Spider-Man. This has got to be fucking sick as out.
Starting point is 00:53:31 That's why we bought up the cover, because that's the point of a cover. Yeah. It ties to you in. Tice you. Yeah. And so we saw Spider-Man as Carnage. I'm like, well, that's sick as hell. So we bought it.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And then we went home. We were like, what the fuck did we step into? But that's, you know, I totally get. that. It's so funny that the clone saga inadvertently has brought so many people into your life. Yeah, right. So we're talking about 90s stuff,
Starting point is 00:53:58 and I'm curious if you guys were into this sort of thing, too. Back in the day, Marvel and DC used to have actually a really good relationship. Do you remember Marvel versus DC? Kind of. Yeah. I don't
Starting point is 00:54:13 think I ever read any of it, but I was aware of it. Yeah, yeah, I was aware. They made trading cards for that. That's where I got a lot of my information because, like, the trading cards would be, like, Superman versus the Hulk or, like, Superboy versus Spider-Man or Aquaman versus Namor. And so they made a comic and basically was like, I don't know if it's like a dimensional
Starting point is 00:54:37 rift or what. But so, like, the DC universe, the Marvel universe started fighting one another. And I remember some of the results. Like I remember Aquaman beating Namor because Namor couldn't control sea life. And Aquaman had that. So you just like summon like killer whales and shit. Hmm. Um,
Starting point is 00:54:55 I remember Robin versus Jubilee. And they ended up like becoming a couple in that comic. Like they hit it off after they had their initial skirmish. But I, but do you, do you remember the Amalgam universe? Basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah. Yeah. So they're making an. omnibus of both Marvel versus DC and the Amalgram universe, but of, I remembered some of those designs like Super Soldier, which was the combination of Superman and Captain America, Spider-Boy, which was Spider-Man and Superboy in Darkclaw,
Starting point is 00:55:33 which was Wolverine and Batman. Like there was some really intense designs on those. But yeah, I was just curious if like, was that something that you guys were aware of that happened? Because, again, Marvel and DC used to get along and they used to do like combo stories and stuff like that. Well, I feel like that was a 90s thing, really. Like there was like the Amalgam universe like you said.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And then there was like the crossover, which was like the Avengers versus Justice League. And then I know there was like some kind of, I don't know, there were other crossovers as well. Yeah. Yeah. I remember music did some. Yeah. Which was, you know, I quite like that because again, maybe that's part of the 90s where you had that like. anything can happen
Starting point is 00:56:17 kind of spare it to it which I really feel like you know for good or for bad they like double downed in that stuff if you read comics in the 90s like it was just like geez we'll hear whatever the fuck we're gonna kill Superman
Starting point is 00:56:31 there's two Spider-Men you know like here's Norman Osborne again well we were talking about how like it feels like those changes don't stick right right like I mean that was
Starting point is 00:56:45 even true to then, but like some of them like they would last a while like nightfall, which was like the big Batman story where it was the debut of Bain and he broke Bruce's back and John Paul Valley became Batman for a period of time. And that was like a that was like across all titles. And I don't think they would do that now anymore. I don't think they would do an across all titles storyline like that. Because like Justice League and everything else that Batman was a part of like they was like, oh, there's this different guy that's Batman and he's really violent and really like aggressive and intense. You know,
Starting point is 00:57:20 like what happened to Bruce kind of thing. Yeah. But yeah, no. It is interesting and you're right. There was that kind of feeling of anything. And I think it's a lot of it had to do with just, you know, those initial comics from the 30s that were going for millions of dollars in auction. A lot of money got pumped into comics because people thought they were going to be worth
Starting point is 00:57:41 something, which gave them the capital to do things. like we wouldn't have Vertigo comics if it wasn't for for like a lot of stuff in the 90s and Vertigo gave us like Sandman and it gave Animal Man and Swamp Thing by Alan Moore and just like a lot of people got a lot to do a lot of really interesting intense stuff. Yeah, they took a lot of chances. Yeah. Image comics came about because of the 90s stuff because like Rob Leifield and the other artists were like we should be getting more credit than what we've been getting as the.
Starting point is 00:58:14 artists for these books. So they went and did their own company that's still around. I mean, I don't know if you guys read a lot of image stuff, but image, I think has some of the best practices in that a lot of the, a lot of it still creator owned. And like the initial trades, like volume one of any trade is going to be substantially cheaper than any other trade because they're trying to entice you to buy it. And it was kind of the reason why I have one of our topics is like favorite non-DC Marvel book because I think there are so many cool. indie titles and stuff out there that, you know, maybe you wouldn't think to read because it's not a massive tent pole kind of story.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah, it does have Spire Man in it because if not, I'm not probably not interested. I still think you'd love 8 billion genies and God hates astronauts. Oh, I don't know if I told you this, but I got the first trade paperback of God hates astronauts.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Oh, what do you think? It's really good. It's fucking insane, right? It's really good. Yeah, it is a lot of fun. Prince Tiger eating a cheeseburger? Greatest character name of all time. No.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Not even the greatest tiger related. Oh, Armist Tiger Man, of course. Thank you. Dude, that's the crossover. That's the crossover. Armist Tiger Man versus what was it, Tiger eating a cheeseburger? Prince Tiger eating a cheeseburger. I don't like him to have a prince.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Like, come on, man. One has no arms and the other has one arm occupied by a cheeseburger. Because he's constantly eating a cheeseburger. Couldn't he use both hands to eat the cheeseburger? I mean, I'm sure he could, but I mean, you know, one of them has to have a functioning hand. They'll never get anything done. No, because Armist Tiger Man is brave. You don't need functioning hands.
Starting point is 00:59:58 You can still kick. Yeah, but okay. So Armus Tiger Man, as much as we love him, a bit of a jobber. No. Well, yes, technically yes. But that's not our fault. It's not our fault. People don't understand what kind of a sweet human being he is.
Starting point is 01:00:16 yeah when he's biting people's throats and yeah it's adorable you know you ever see like a bear attack somebody people but people still go that was the biggest I remember that was the big review coming out of Werner Herzog's grizzly man was how fucking cute it was that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:00:34 people know the bears will absolutely rip your deck off but they also go look how cute that bear is that's armless tiger man yeah thank you But he'll rip your dick off with his feet, which you have to pay good money for. He will absolutely rip your dick off. Yeah, some people, like, you got to pay good money for that, you know, that kind of treatment. That's how he's still in business.
Starting point is 01:00:57 He has an only fans where he pays a premium fee. He'll rip your dick off with his feet. On camera, he'll rip somebody's dick off. And they're like, this is exactly what I wanted. Thank you. Here's seven thousand pounds. Hell yeah. And he's like, put it in my bank account.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I can't take the money. Yeah, I can't. What am I going to do? I can't reach my wallet with my feet. Put it in the bank, you fucking prick. He's sending me in PayPal. We talked about this before the fucking video. Please, give me some dignity.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And then the other guys, like, give you some dignity. You still have a dick. This is my Armist Tiger Man comics. It's not what they expected. It's very graphic. I will draw the dick ripping. There's a whole lot going on. Do you remember that controversy, like,
Starting point is 01:01:43 they put out like a so DC has done away so Vertigo shut its doors and now they have black label and I think Scott Steiner's starting his own like new alternate label that is essentially going to be vertigo but they had the Batman's storyline
Starting point is 01:01:58 where you got to see Batman's dick and it like blew people's fucking minds and people were upset about it and like I still am not entirely sure why people are upset that you could see Batman's genitals is it because it was so small maybe that's why they were like
Starting point is 01:02:13 Batman should have a way bigger dick. Yeah, like, Batman should have a huge-ass dick. You're like, well, no, don't you think he's overcompetiting for something? Hello, he pretends to be a fucking bat. Don't you think he's up to something? Like, they all have, let's be honest here, they all have tiny dicks, right? Why else would you dress up in spandex and pretend to be like a scorpion or whatever? Like, there's- Well, I'll tell you, if you didn't have a small one and you were wearing spandex, it would be noticeable.
Starting point is 01:02:42 right but exactly did you imagine like the Joker trying to fight Batman and he's just like I just can't take my eyes off it it's like watching the labyrinth with David Bowie exactly if you look at comics you never see the dick it's all smooth
Starting point is 01:02:56 I'm like that's because they got tiny dicks it just it just tucks in this is that the fan art is that going to be the thumbnail art Dylan tiny dix whenever we said we're going to do like an episode where we just spit ball with it
Starting point is 01:03:12 stuff. I put money on it that none of us thought we would circle around to talking about tiny dick's Batman's tiny dick. Can you call it Batman of tiny dick? I don't just draw Batman on us with a magnifying
Starting point is 01:03:30 glass on his crotch, you know? No, yes? Well, we'll talk about this. We'll talk. We'll talk about it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Guys, if you think Batman also with a tiny dick let us know in the comments let us actually let us know in the comments of a lindisket
Starting point is 01:03:48 music video someone was just like watching some like some like live like they're watching the the woodstock 99 footage where like they inside a riot and somebody like some unspeakable acts occurred in the crowd and they just write in the comments like I bet Batman does have a tiny dick
Starting point is 01:04:09 yeah yeah exactly like it's a fucking you know the video from like rest of media where like limp biscuit did a couple of songs oh yeah yeah the comment yeah the comment's just like yeah Batman's got a tiny dick dude I I want this podcast to be a really
Starting point is 01:04:28 big success purely for the fact that it would get people to just write nonsense underneath limp biscuit videos that's honestly that's the only reason I think that's super funny I'm so glad we came up with that joke like right off the bat.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Well, I mean, it came from your Animal Crossing videos, which by the way, if you never were aware, Dylan played Animal Crossing every day for a year. Yes. And it was really fucking funny. So if you want to watch 365 episodes of Animal Crossing, Dylan, where do they need to go? It's Exploity Plays on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:05:07 So if you just like at Exploity Plays on YouTube, Um, it's, I, I thought it was funny. I think it was. I enjoyed it. I'm glad you liked it. I will also tell you, one of my favorite episodes, uh, videos you ever did video game wise was the one where you're playing that darts game. And no matter where you aimed, the dart kept going to the exact same fucking spot. I have told my friends, um, I'm like, guys, you got to come over and record an episode because my friend Corey watched me play bullseye by myself. And he said to me, you have to. play this with other people just so we can get a second episode of Bullseye.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yeah, no, I agree. I would love to, I'd love to watch another couple episodes of Bullseye. I thought it was fucking hysterical. I think we can only stretch one more episode because it is a terrible game, but I would love to play that again. You know what? That show, it's coming back. I'll say that. I got a lot of stuff lined up and hopefully we'll get some stuff coming in the summer. You're getting back into the video game. I hope so. I have some videos recorded. And hopefully we'll be able to get some stuff up over the summer. So that's the plan. That's really funny.
Starting point is 01:06:18 So here's things if you do listen to this. This is our like, this is our, like, this is only one of our weird initial hobbies. Like, so we know that John watches a lot of movies every year. Dylan runs a video game account and I play an obscene amount of fucking D&D.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Yes. So that's the other components of who we are as people. So we're all really cool. Yeah. Yeah, we're cool people. Everybody loves us. You know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Plans are to like bring back there. Because I love, it takes a lot of work, but like the YouTube stuff is really fun. Because I'm glad you brought the Animal Crossing thing up because Animal Crossing was like some of the most fun I've ever had because you just, you turn it on. And then for like 10 to 15 minutes, I just talk shit and then turn it off again.
Starting point is 01:07:11 like I had so much fun with it. There was no pressure. There was no like, you have to talk about this or that. Just whatever I talked about was what was the episode. You know what I mean? Like this, like good or for good or for bad,
Starting point is 01:07:23 but this is what it is. And I loved it. It was so much fun. I miss it. But like, I feel like because I did it for a whole year, you know, I can't really go back to it.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Like it's done now. You know, I'm a cross and there are other animal crossing games though. I mean, there's the one that came out during, there's the one that came out right at the beginning of the pandemic that I know for the fact, saved a lot of people's fucking mental health when that happened. I have that game.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But the problem with that is, Corey, if you remember the old Animal Crossing game I played, which was for the GameCube, there were some really like mean animals in it. Someone that villagers really like just unpleasant. They took them out in the new game because Nintendo are,
Starting point is 01:08:10 are so lovely that they thought everybody has to have a nice time playing Animal Crossing. So you don't want to play Animal Crossing and then get in contact with an unpleasant person. And I'm like, no, fuck you. Part of the fun of Animal Crossing was that they were just absolutely dicks to you. And the fun of it was
Starting point is 01:08:28 finding a way, I didn't show it on the show, but there are ways to get those people to leave your island by being dicks to them. And they don't tell you this, but you can figure it out. Like if you If there's somebody in the island That you don't like
Starting point is 01:08:44 Just chase after them Like just keep hitting them with the bug net And they will Maybe I did show this But if you just keep hitting them on the head With the bug net They'll turn around you Go stop hitting with the bug net
Starting point is 01:08:55 And you keep doing it And they'll turn around to you again And say I swear to God dude Do it one more time I'm going to leave this island Keep hitting them And then the next day
Starting point is 01:09:05 They'll leave the island And a huff And I'm like They never, the best thing about that original Animal Crossing was they told you nothing. They said, here's the game, figure it out, and you do, you just make it work. Like even playing it, or whenever I played at, 2020, there was stuff in it that I didn't even know. Because you just figure it out, you know. And I like that kind of game as opposed to the new Animal Crossing for the Switch, which was a little, not handholdy, but very like, here's your game, but like within these parameters.
Starting point is 01:09:38 you know um whereas with the original one the parameters were like your detriment and you had to work around those parameters which i really liked um but that's that's a whole other story that's a game development episode you know what you mean that's a whole other thing i could talk about alamacross and all day if you guys want to see it once again explodey plays on youtube please follow me i need the follows have like 22 subscribers. You don't get any money from 22 subscribers. That's a fact. Watch my Shantay episodes.
Starting point is 01:10:17 They were really good. I really liked that. The Shantay episodes were fun. What was the one you liked? Jetset Radio. Yeah. Yeah. I love Jets at Radio.
Starting point is 01:10:28 That was a lot of fun. You're the only person I know that I ever watched that fucking shit. Hey, support your friends. Thank you. Why are my regular friends are like this? I'm like, have you seen my show? And they're like, no.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Why do I make it? You know? We're fun. Like you said, at some point, I have a feeling that I'll end up visiting your country and we should all fucking hang out. If you ever come here,
Starting point is 01:10:57 we will record a YouTube show of us playing me. Oh, we'll do a live one. John Alta, if you want to come over, we'll all get together. We'll all play bullseye. Yeah, sure. Why not?
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah. Why not? Great crack. I finally get to see what John looks like. You know what John looks like. You've seen the pictures. I've seen that, yeah, I've been wearing a mask the whole time.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah. Oh, damn. Got a K-fab man. You be wearing an Axiom mask. Yeah. The cane mask? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:26 He does have a cane mask. Oh, nice. Which version? Original. The classic version. Yeah. Oh, nice. But it's sort of made from
Starting point is 01:11:35 cheap rubber rather than, than like leather. So it's, I can only wear it for like, yeah, short periods of time before the smell overwhelms me. Delicious. Yeah, they don't look like the most breathable things either. No, definitely not.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I will tell you that what I know about, there is a certain population here in America that are interested in some of the, like some of the stuff that's like really popular over in your country, but it makes them just massive fucking nerds here. Like Doctor Who, for example, from my understand is a very like common thing that one would be a fan of in the UK. Yeah, I'd say it's fairly mainstream over here. It's like Saturday night TV viewing. Yeah, if you're a fan and Doctor Who here, you're just a massive fucking nerd.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Because like, because you have to fucking find it to watch it for one because we don't get the BBC over here normally. Yeah, but they've struck up a deal with Disney now. Yeah, yeah, so you can watch it now. Yeah. I think that's a good point. Over here, like, we can see Doctor Who, like, whenever you
Starting point is 01:12:51 want. Yeah. It is just kind of a thing, like part of our culture, like, you know, people know it, but like maybe not to like the extent of like being a doctor who nerd, but like people are aware of Dr. Huo. the other big one is soccer like if you're a fan of like
Starting point is 01:13:12 Premier League soccer here you're just the biggest fucking dork really yeah oh my god no like I remember so like we have a Columbus has a major league soccer team the Columbus crew and like we've we just won the championship
Starting point is 01:13:33 I think it's like maybe our second time in recent years. But like we're one of the bigger teams in America. And I can still like we just built a whole brand new fucking field near where I work actually. And I can tell you most of the people that I know who are big like Columbus crew fans are just the biggest fucking nerds. It's nowhere near the same environment that it is over there. Nowhere fucking near. Because like over here, if you're in. the football, you're probably not a nerd.
Starting point is 01:14:05 No, you're probably our equivalent of football fans. Yeah. Yeah, basically. But did Ron Reynolds and Rob McElhoney not do a good job of introducing soccer to the American nation? Yeah, no, I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:21 I think they've done a really good job. Will fucking Farrell was in downtown Columbus on like one of the championship games because he went to a bar and just completely commandeered it. and got up on top of the bar with a live mic and started like doing renditions to karaoke. He's just invested in Leeds United over here as well.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's why. Yeah. So yeah, no, like it's really funny because like I said like, so Columbus, like every other big city in Ohio has like teams. So like Cleveland has a football team and a baseball team and a basketball team. and Cincinnati has a football team and a baseball team. But Columbus is like, we have the soccer team and the hockey team. And our hockey team is, like, I think they did the worst this year.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Wait, wait, wait, wait, whoa, are you telling me, are you going to say to me and John, and all the other thousands of people listen to the show, which I assume by the point this episode goes out, it will be thousands. that Tony Khan hasn't made more people in America be interested in soccer? He can't get more people interested in being fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Right, because he has to focus on something.
Starting point is 01:15:45 They are they routinely get poor, like, so the players union in football, they do like surveys and like teams that are like the best to work with and the Jaguars routinely come dead last. Well, folks, that's going to do it for us today. Thank you for joining us for another one of these episodes where we just kind of, you know, shoot the shit and ramble and talk about whatever. A lot of X-Men talk usually. Well, if you like that, make sure you check in the next episode where we're definitely going to talk about X-Men. Yeah, we are actually, I think.
Starting point is 01:16:20 As long as the, as long as everything still falls through the way that we think, we'll be continuing on our series of visiting the original five X-Men individually. So we've already talked about Beast, we've already talked about Iceman, we've already talked about Angel. So now we're going to get to the really the two heavy hitters of that original lineup who've had the most stuff going on, which would be Cyclops and Gene Gray. So which one you're going to have to subscribe to find out? Dylan's always good for the marketing aspect. Not really because we haven't grown our show at all. we actually have a little bit
Starting point is 01:17:00 probably not because of me oh well we have we've been getting some more listeners out there and other countries which is always so wild to me so it's really sweet yeah I love the fact that people outside of the
Starting point is 01:17:15 UK or the United States would want to listen to the show I really appreciate that that's really nice sorry we had to put this at the end of the show but like if you got all the way through it now you hit the shout out that's why you're going to listen the whole show But like you were talking about like Poland and Germany and stuff and yeah Brazil.
Starting point is 01:17:32 It's so sweet. Yeah, like India. Like that's crazy that people would listen to us talking about Parma's Tiger Man. Like thank you very much. You know, I really appreciate it. It's so it's really nice, you know. Well, folks, join us next time when we definitely touch on one of those one of the two X-Men characters we've not spoken up previously. Until then.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Which one? You'll never know. you subscribe. There you go. We'll chat with you later. Have a good one. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Bye. Bye. I like how you did that one like you're playing the trumpet.

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