The Smark Avengers - Vol 3, Ep 19: The Smark Avengers (minus one) Talk About Hydro Man I Guess

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

In a Smark Avengers first, the trio has become a duo as Jon is in Germany so you know what that means? Join Corey and Dylan as they talk about beaches and one of Dylan's favorite characters - Hydro Man!

I really like that though. I really like going to the beach and just like... Because like when you're here, you can see all the stuff. Like you said, you can see the mountains. You can see the buildings. You can see a lot of stuff. When you turn around to the sea and like,

it's just, it's just sea. Yeah. That's all it is. Just for fucking ever. It's to see. It's so big. It's just so much. And it's hard to swim at all.

I don't think I could swim at all. You know? Can you swim? Yeah, I think so. What do you think so? I don't swim very often. I assume I can. But that's, I used to be able to.

I imagine I imagine I should still be able to. Okay. That's what I mean. Like, did you learn to swim? Or did or when you said I imagine so, I mean like, if somebody dropped you in the water right now, I would you be like, I'll just swim the way I think I can of my head or will you actually be able to swim? I'd probably sink depending on how deep

the water is. Well, it's the sea. It's pretty deep. Yeah, so I'd probably be fucked. I mean, you could swim a little. I've been to the beach I think twice in my life. Twice? Yeah.

Oh, dude. Yeah, I like a nice quiet beach, but you know. Yeah. Because where I live is very small. And if the weather is nice, everybody goes to like the good beach immediately. So then if I want to go to the good beach, I'm like, well, I have to go to a different part of the beach that nobody else is at. Because I don't want to be around all those fucking people.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I really wish we hadn't been recording when I said that bit. Why? You think that people in Ireland are going to hear that and be like, that's son of a bitch. I mean, the good thing about this is nobody listens to the show. Some people listen to the show. nobody from Ireland listens to it

not yet no but they will know once I said they were all fucking yeah once you talk shit about them that's when they're gonna listen oh then they then they pay attention like this they were like that son of a bitch yeah well I would be fine if they didn't fucking cried the beach all the time

you know what you mean but I like going to be I love going to the beach yeah but I like I just like the vibes of the beach I like it you can get close proximity to ice cream which I really like You can build a sandcastle. You can go surfing.

You don't even have to go into the water, which is really nice. Like the beach, the water is like a big part of it. But if you don't want to do that, you can just lie on the sand. That's nice. Or you don't even have to lie in the sand.

There's always a little area where there's like behind the sand. You can sit in. If you don't even want to get sand in your toes, that's fine. You know, there's a very relaxed atmosphere at the beach. I think, you know, you can kind of do whatever you want that makes you happy.

And I like that. So speaking of a relaxed atmosphere, everybody. Welcome to see you. I really interested to know what part you're going to start this show because I talked about the beach for a long time. About five and a half minutes. It felt like, well, that's true. Because I was talking about the beach before we recorded. Yeah, before we hit record.

everybody well in the smart Avengers my name's Corey and with me is just Dylan John

John couldn't join us I think he's in Germany is that right yes he he he

he's at the euros right I don't know what the fuck I'm going to say yes he's at the beach he's at the beach he's at the beach in Germany

you know so so yeah John's in Germany yeah we think Johnson, Germany. But yours are on. So I think that's what he said. Okay. So that's where he is then. Yeah, yeah. He's there because I remember that. So it's just giving me on Dylan today. And we kind of have a loose idea of what we're going to do.

Talk about the beach. Well, I had an idea while you were talking about the beach. I knew you weren't listening. I was listening. I'm capable of doing two things at once. Okay. So yeah. Well, we can't ask John, obviously where he is on his movie watch. So if you had to guess where John is, how many movies he's watched so far, what do you think he's done? 17. 394. I don't remember what the number was last week.

I think it was in the 300s, I think. Oh, so I was way off? A little bit. Okay. Can I change the answer? I had to resist the earth. I had the, yeah, go ahead. 18.

There you go. I had to resist the urge to try to impersonate his voice on that too Yeah I was real time to do it And then you know what we'll do We'll go and get on We'll get an old clip of John And splice it in

Well no I'm not doing that I'll make it seem like he's still here And nobody will ever know Yeah we'll just We'll take old footage Our old recordings And we'll kind of like

Put John in there And there'll be a lot of him going Hmm Yes Yeah And then occasionally Occasionally, like, you'll start talking about Ben Riley, even though we're not talking about Ben Riley. Yeah, we'll be talking about something different.

We'll have to cut him off. Like, John, please. John, for love of God, pay attention. Got to stop, you know. That will probably be no problem to you as the editor. I'm sure you'll have a great time. Oh, yeah, I'll have a great. I'll enjoy myself very thoroughly.

So the idea that I had, because you were talking about the beach, there is a particular character that you have always been kind of fascinating. it in and I kind of want to do a deeper dive on that and see like what is it about this particular character that you thoroughly enjoy so so so Dylan talk to me about hydroman oh do you know I was I was thinking about picking him to talk about as well because I do like hydroman I don't know I don't really know I think part of it was he was quite um he was pretty

well in the comics he's always been a bit of a like a sea list villain I wouldn't maybe not even a B list villain which is a she-in because I don't think that that gives him the respect that he deserves because he can control all water

which to me seems like a koulos ability but in the in the the 90s cartoon show he had a much bigger role he was a lot more important we we talked a little bit about the 90s cartoon and his um his appearance on there as like mary jane watson's ex-boyfriend yeah so like he actually had stuff to do and he felt more impactful and again like we've talked about the tv show was where a lot of us kind of got into spider-man and the x-men so a lot of the stuff

you see on there kind of, you know, you get that nostalgia or you get that, that bias for the stuff that you've seen. Again, maybe that's why I like the Hobgoblin so much, you know, because the Hobgoblin was a very big character in the TV show. But at the time in the 90s, he wasn't really being used like that. You know, so I don't know, man. I really like Hydraman. And it is funny that he never seems to, because I feel like you could tell a good story with him. I don't know if you ever do this,

but sometimes I was like, what if I was a writer for Marvel? You know, what would I, like, if Marvel came up to, and I'd like to do this for a show at some point, but of like, if I'm Mr. Marvel, yeah, and I come up to you, and like, Corey, you're hired.

I want you to write up, six issue stories about whoever you want you can pick the guy you can have Spider-Man, you can have Iron Man, you can have

the blob, you can have wherever you want. And if they were like, all right, you can write Spider-Man, what do you got? I'm pretty sure I could make Hyderman

into a cool guy. I'm pretty sure I could do it. I don't know how. That's the trick. Because I have thought about other storylines I'd like to write. I had this really good one that I think we will see it for a different episode

because I'm not going to spill the beans right now. That's fair. But I will say it's really good. So that's something to look forward to. So I have thought about other storylines about writing and stuff. And I've always wanted to like figure out how to make a guy like Hadrimand good.

Because I think surely it must be possible. to do it. Like he's, he's, he can control water. Yeah. And the way that, the Marvel

kind of diddle around with stuff now, like if you look at Magneto, at first he was just like a guy that could move, he was called Magneto because he was a fucking magnet,

right? He could move metal. That was a gimmick. And now he can do, like he can manipulate the iron in your bloodstream and he can, you know,

short out your brain with the electrical impulses or whatever. Like he can do all this fucking weirdo stuff that you're like, this is what? I thought he could just move metal. Like what are we doing? Like they come up with these huge grand, like the flash, right?

The flash should just be able to run fast. But at some point somebody thought about it for way too much. And they're like, no, he could do all this stuff. And he can also like blah, blah, blah. He's got a crazy memory and he's got six arms or whatever. I don't know. At some point, I'm sure they're going to give him six arms

and then come up with an explanation why we're running fast gives you six arms. But surely there's got to be a way to like, well, if you're, if you can control water, then does he control air molecules, like the water in the air? Could he can he manipulate that? Or like, aren't we like 70% water as humans? Like can't, could he manipulate that? You know, is there a way to make him like bigger than he appears as this as a villain?

You know what you mean? Yeah. So it is interesting. like to go back to the Magneto thing, it is really funny how they did that when we were watching Pride of the X-Men last week. And like one of the first things they say, like he describes himself as, is a terrorist.

Like, the man himself acknowledged he's a terrorist. And like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, no, I think like the thing with the Hydro Man character is, I mean, that's kind of just sometimes low-level villains and characters that appear in like one-shot. stories are just kind of fun because like we were talking a bit about the bin riley in the clone saga and how it ultimately culminated in like again spider man fighting green goblin

yeah and you're like how many fucking times can he fight norman osborne right i i i felt like that you know after that because i in the clone saga i feel like it was such a grandiose thing what they did there that by the but the way they wrapped it up and like It actually does make sense. Norman Osborne's a big bad, fair enough. But then after that, there was like three or four other times where they brought him back. And you're like, this again, we were doing this again. And some of it gets silly.

Some of it gets really silly. And you're like, I don't, you didn't need to, to the point where every time there was a new writer on Spider-Man, you're like at some point, I know they're going to do a Green Goblin thing. I feel like it's the same way with like if you're a writer on Batman, you have to do the Joker. you have to. Whether or not the story calls for it, whether or not

you have a good idea for the character or not, it's going to happen. And I know that that happened a bunch of times in Spider-Man

where they're like, oh, it's a Greek goblin again. I'm like, you could just, you could give somebody else a shot. You don't have to keep bringing Norman Osborne back,

you know? Yeah. Because I feel like it deludes the character a bit if he's just doing wacky stuff for a very little reason. So like, to kind of go to

to the Hyderman thing. He's in like a really weird position where like there are really low level characters like because I always think of the superior foes of Spider-Man series where it's like speed demon and boomerang

and the beetle and the shocker and like there are all these low-level characters that you could do like kind of a funny story with because like they're so low level they're kind of jokes. Yeah. And like, so he's he's too powerful for that.

And, but he's also like not powerful enough to be a main villain. And at the same time, like, I was thinking like, could you put him on the thunderbolts? Because the thunderbolts historically, you know, we're a team of villains trying to make good. But like, I don't even know if you can necessarily put him on the thunderbolts because I don't know if he's, I don't know if he's like too powerful or not powerful enough to be on the thunderbolts. Yeah. I mean, part of the problem with Hyderman is he's always depicted as an idiot, shall we say. Well, very low intelligent kind of thog. So I will, to kind of give you some insight on that, I did pull up the Marvel.com website, and they put like, they put like the stats of the villains.

Like, they come up with like power levels for them. So when we read, right? It's a one to ten. Okay. So let me read you the stats for hydroman. Okay. Durability, six out of ten. You mean that a water.

Exactly. Could be higher because he can most of the time not have a physical form because he's water. I don't know how you're hurting water. Right. Aside from like the traditional dehydration stuff. Energy, four out of ten. But if he's water, like... Does he run out of energy?

I don't know. You know what you mean? Like, if he, can he just like, does he need to eat? Couldn't he just replenish his water supply and then just go? Fighting skills, three out of ten. Really submitting that jobber status. Everybody looks to this. It's like, you like a guy who's like three out of ten?

He's really good, man. Speed, three out of ten. I mean, I don't really know how you could, like, that one I'd say probably fair enough because, like, it's probably situational. Yeah. You know, you shoot water out of a hose is really quick. But if you let water drip out of a tap, it's really slow. So. Strength, three out of ten.

I absolutely disagree with that, right? Yeah. Because, again, like, the tidal wave, have you ever been hit with something like that? A tsunami fucking kills people. Yeah. like if he forced if he directed the force of his water correctly even like i said a fire hose like that if you ever see have you ever held a fire hose i cannot say that i have you ever try to like fuck i have which signs strange i'm not how did that happen not going to explain it fair enough

i mean i can't explain if you want it's not a good story it's why i wasn't going to explain it but we have a hose so finally finally intelligence, two out of ten. Right. This seems to be... He's been dumb. Yeah, the trapping, the fallen out. But even at two out of ten, you're like...

I feel like if you're two out of ten intelligent, like, you should be institutionalized, right? Like, two out of ten? That's dumb. That's pretty, it's pretty low. It's pretty low. That's real dumb. So, do you... So as a kind of a courtesy thing, do you know how...

he got his powers Oh fuck I used to Like a rehab I haven't I haven't No he was He was

He was He was fighting Somebody And he was on the boat Nearby And then he got knocked Into the water

And whoever Spider-Man was fighting Was Spider-Man Wasn't it Yeah Yeah It was Spider-Man Okay

He was He was fighting He was fighting Namor The Submariner Oh Well there was some kind of chain reaction that happened with, maybe it was something to do with the boat, but once it happened...

It says that during the testing of a powerful new experimental underwater generator, the generator's energies combined with gas from undersea volcanoes, triggered a weird mutation that transformed him into living water. Okay. I mean, neither of us know the science behind that to say whether or not that's true. Yeah. I don't know if that actually can't happen. But I guess, why not? Yeah, okay. Sure.

Yeah. So back to Hydro Man. Okay. If you say so. He's pretty low level when it comes to his intelligence and such. So, I mean, I think there's a bit of a tragic backstory there. I mean, he didn't choose to. become a man of living water.

So you almost can understand why he wants revenge against Spider-Man. Right. Like, the story's there. You understand it. But they never, again, because I feel like that stuff gets forgotten about, that's, if at all you see Hyderman, that shit's never explained or never backed up. He's just, he's just an idiot these days, you know?

Yeah. So he did not only just fight Spider-Man, according to Marvel.com, would you like to see the other people that he has fought? He's fought the Sandman. Yes, he has. The other people that he has fought as either alone or a member of a team was Silver Sable, the Fantastic Four. Yep. Cloak and dagger. Okay.

The Avengers. All right. the new warriors Oh, okay The Thunderbolts He fought the Thunderballs? Apparently, according to Marvel.com

If you can't trust them, I don't know who you're going to trust. Well, they said he was three strength or whatever, so Dubby is at best. I don't trust him. Black Panther. Why? I don't know, and here's the final two.

I saved two for last. because of like one I know you'll love and the other one I don't know how you'll react so Gambit okay and finally Thunder Strike Thunder strike yeah are you familiar with who Thunderstrike

I am not yeah that'll work so should we get back to Hyderman do we maybe we can talk about something else if you want well is there another Are there another one of these characters that you're super into that you're kind of just want to talk about, I guess? I don't know.

I do really like Hyderman. I feel like he has gotten a raw shake. You know, you really hardly ever see him in the... Okay. Let me tell you this. I... Years ago, I bought Todd McFarland. collection

of Spider-Man. I think it was, it was like volume three, I think, of the Todd McFarden run on Spider-Man, which,

you know, the artwork is beautiful. Of course. He's a really great, great artist. And the front cover was Venom, of course.

But who do you think was on the back cover? Who's on that cover? Fucking Hydraman. There you go. I'm like, what? Hyderman?

Tom McFardenger? They look coolest out. his his his his hydraemon look really good i'm like whoa dude hydraman's getting a getting he's in this book i get to read a story about hydra man sign me up i'll pay money do you guys have forbidden planet in america i think so it's like a comic shop and sells all sorts of other merchandise yeah yeah i think we have one have you call it forbidden planet which because is this a big chain store means that like the prices are through the roof

and you know the thing about nerds they'll pay oh they'll pay for that shit you know what you mean somehow nerds have a like an amazing amount of expendable capital you know what you mean

you see it with the AEW nerds they'll fly across the country to support that shitty company doesn't make any where do they get their money from doesn't matter but they're happy to piss all away. And it's the same of Fibbitten planet. They can charge through the roof because they know people are going to pay it, you know? And I did, like an idiot, because all it takes, all it takes

is a cool picture of Hyderman. I wonder if you can find it. Maybe I'll, let me see if I can find the picture. Maybe, I know, Google like Tom McFart and Spider-Man. No, Tom McFart with Hyderman, see if you can find the picture. There it is. you have like a sick pompador yeah like who's hair is right and he's like fucking drowning spider-man yeah doesn't not like coo this hell like wouldn't you wouldn't you would like wouldn't you think that guy's cool that's a great picture right so i saw that picture in the back cover i'm like oh do i got to get this my love hydra man i want to see if this plays i and you know read read the collection so i basically spent like i don't know what it was i i feel like it was like 30-point

pounds or something. I don't know if that's, but it was a big, it was a big collection, big, big, big collection. And I think it was like 30 pounds, but I spent it because I wanted to read. Obviously, the rest of the art was good. The rest of the stories were good. I didn't just buy it for Hyderman, but that was a big selling point for me. And I got it, and then Hyderman is like barely in the fucking issue. Yeah, yeah, I see the cover.

It says, Hydro Man wins it last. And it has like a little head bubble of venom. looking like a pervert and it says yeah right yeah yep yep so it was about venom not about hydraman hydraman i think is in like two or three pages of it and then that's the same to him yeah i don't like this sucks maybe this contributes to my dislike of venom i don't know but uh i was very very disappointed i spent 30 fines on this i spent money to read a story about hydraman and i don't i get a story with benham benham was on the front cover I get it.

He's going to have like 50 issues of fighting Spider-Mine. Let me see the one about how'd your mind. So. I'm a little disappointed because I'm looking at the cover and it shows like the dollar figure and it's like this issue was a dollar. Like, oh, fuck. Most comics these days are like $3.99. Yeah, but they use different ink or whatever. So it costs more.

Well, yeah, the page is the page quality is different. So I'm using like the kind of previous like newspaper print. They use like a glossy. I get it, I get it It looks prettier, but Jesus Christ I do miss the days of like cheap comics Yeah It's that that as well is part of the reason why

Comics in the 90s like You know One of the reasons there were like 50 different Spider-Mod comics Was because people didn't mind spending A dollar a piece Yeah because if you buy all five of them That's $5 right If you buy five Spider-Mond comics, right?

If you buy five Spider-O-Modomomom now it's like $20. It's like $20. Yeah, that's a big difference. There's a lot of Spider-Man comics still. Yeah, exactly. People thought there were too many in the fucking 90s with the clone saga, but there's probably equally as many now.

If not more Spider-Man comics, the people have to spend. And like you said, they're like $2.50 or whatever. And that's money that people don't. Well, I was going to say that's money people don't have. We've already established that the nerds have lots of money. Your boy, Hydraman, does get a lot of appearances. So let me go through him real quick. So there was, of course, the Spider-Man cartoon who's voiced by Rob Paulson.

Yes. The legendary Rob Paulson. That was a big, big long episode. And then he shows up again, but it's just a clone of him in a two-parter episode called the Return of Hydraman. How do you clone Hyderman? I mean, he's water, right? Right. So just a bucket of water.

Look at him. That's the guy. That's it. Don't make him do anything. He appeared in the Fantastic Four cartoon from 94. In the episode? Yeah, yeah. In an episode titled,

And the Wind Cries Medusa, where he's voiced by Brad Garrett, famous of everybody was women fame. Brad Garrett used to do a lot of, voices in cartoons. He was a member, in the cartoon, he was the voice, he was a member of the Frightful Four. Yeah, I think he was in the comics as well.

Yeah. The Spectacular Spider-Man, that was a series from, it looks like, 2008, 2009. He was voiced by Bill Fagerbaki. Oh, yeah, he voices Patrick Star from SpongeBob.

So Patrick from SpongeBob voiced Hyderman in an episode titled, Shear Strength. Okay. He's a demolitions expert who is working for Norman Osborne in that cartoon. See, back to Norman Osborne. Yep. In the ultimate Spider-Man cartoon that came out in 2000, 2012 that were I had from 2012 to 2017 so pretty pretty substantial run on that one he was voiced by James Arnold Taylor

Who has done a lot of video game work Yeah, that seems that's familiar this version was previously captured by Nick Fury and imprisoned in shield Disguises as well he was in a prison that was disguised as an abandoned mall What that's what it says Okay Uh, let's see. He was in another two, he was in a two-parter episode where he was in the Hydra-backed Sinister Six. And so of course in the film, he appeared as an elemental in Spider-Man far from home. So it wasn't really him, but kind of him.

Yes. Yes. He wasn't real. He was an illusion. I got very excited about the trailers because I'm like, oh my God, they're going to do Hydramad. And again, they beat and switched me again. I get you. Can you believe it? They did Hydraman dirty twice, and they got me both times. Unbelievable. Like, they call him Hydramine.

He's not really Hydraman. It's just a fucking whatever. You haven't seen that film, right? No, I haven't. Hydraman. You established. You haven't seen a whole lot of films. It is good, though, because it's a, it's a Mysterio kind of gimmick, you know?

Yeah, yeah. So now we're going to look at his appearance in video games. I know you're a big video game player. He appears in Quest Probe featuring Spider-Man. And Quest Probe was a video game that came out in December of 1984. Okay. So it was one of those games where you input what you're going to do. Uh-huh.

Like turn here or like open door, that kind of thing. Okay. In the 1995 Spider-Man from LJN, he appeared as a villain there. Okay. He was a boss character in the 2012 turn-based social network game Marvel Avengers Alliance. Okay. And in 2014, he was a character or he was a boss in Spider-Man Unlimited. he was voiced by the great Matthew Mercer.

Spider-Man Unlimited. Yeah, Spider-Man Unlimited. Maybe. When did that come out? 2014. Maybe. I don't know. All right, so we're going to move over.

We'll move over into some other things. So in the Universal Islands of Adventure, Spider-Man or Hydromand appears in the ride, the Amazing Ventures of Spider-Man, where again he is voiced by the voice actor who does Patrick Starr. He's a member of the sinister syndicate, and while attacking Spider-Man,

he accidentally collides with Electro and is apparently killed. That'll do it. They killed Patrick Starr. Wow. Ish. Wait, with the Electro, all right? It doesn't state. He's probably fine.

I would assume Elector got fucked up, too. He'll walk it off. He'll be all right. So we also have some merchandise. Maybe you have some of these, seeing as you are a big Spider-Man fan. Okay. Or Hydro-Man fan.

There is a bust of him. So I'm going to do a quick search and see what that looks like. We have to see what price that is. It's a pretty cool looking bust, I have to say. Let me see. They're selling it at Midtown Comics. And usually busts are over $100 just to give you a heads up on that. Yeah, it's 120.

And it's a mini bus, so it's not even that big. It looks all right. There's an Hyderman statue from Art Station. And that one is... I don't think it's for sale. It might be sold out. But yeah. They've made several action figures of Hyderman.

The 90s Spider-Man cartoon had one. they just put out a Marvel Legends in 2019 of him. So do you have any of the Hydro Man action figures? I don't. I should look into it. I don't have a whole lot of Spider-Man action figures, funny now. Yeah, weirdly enough. You know, he was, I didn't realize this, but he was created by Denny O'Neill.

Okay. Yeah, Denny O'Neill is one of my favorite writers. He passed away very recently, but Denny was the editor-in-chief of Batman that was partly responsible for Jason Todd being killed off. Yeah. And created a bunch of my favorite characters and wrote even more of them. So that's pretty funny that he was created by Denny O'Neill and John Rameda Jr. So now, Hidemond is one of your favorite characters too, right? Yeah, we'll say that.

Will we say that with any sincerity? Probably not, no. It was said, though. Whenever we were looking up pictures of Hyderman, I find a card, a trading card. There was a Hyderauntary card. The 90s were full of trading cards. So this is a trading card that's been greeted.

You know, you can create cards. Oh, it's on slap? Yes, it's in the location. It's already been graded. It's going to 8.5. It's pretty good. Signed by Todd McFarland. There you go.

Pretty good. How much do you think that's going for? I don't know. See, that's the thing about trading cards. They're either very cheap or very not. Bingo. So. Whoa.

I just looked at it. Yeah. You see that price? I did. Can you believe that? For a heavy hitter like Hydraman, it only makes. doesn't it?

$224.95 with $11.75 for shipping. Wow, that's pretty funny because that's not the one I'm looking at. Oh, this is a separate one on eBay then. Yeah, oh, this is not eBay. This is on Hollywood memorabilia.com.

Oh, Hollywood memorabilia. I'd laugh at it's the same people selling it, though. Do you want to how much mine is? How much? 427.99. I have a feeling that eBay one will probably sole first well that if i get there i'll absolutely expect 400 pion up so i'm seeing some other like hydra man trading cards and they are going for anything between two dollars and 150

that's what i expected it to be yeah here's a 2021 marvel metal universe spider man light fx orange one out of 25 Hyderman card $199.99.99. That same card that you are looking at that was not autographed by Todd McFarland is going for $1.59. So it's the McFarland signature that's really driving that price up.

Well, yeah, I suppose an argument can be made for that, but also it was 8.5 graded, so... Yeah, here's a six-graded one. So this is a graded six, same card, $14.95. Well, that's the difference between a 6 and that 8.5. Yeah.

Here's a Hydromand card from 1989 that's graded at 9 out of 10. How much do you think it's going for? $10. $50. 50? 50. It's the McFarland signature. Even though the quality is better, it's the McFarland signature. All right.

Well. Dylan. Would you like to know, oh, I thought that was a Pog for a second. This is a 15 out of 50 card that's like partly translucent. That's like 12 bucks. Now I got to see if there's Hydromand Pogs. Do you remember Pogs? I do remember Pogs.

For anybody who's listening that doesn't remember Pogs, they were very big in the 90s for some reason. Yep. Nobody knows why Pogs were big, but they were. They're a little circle, little car. Cardboard circles. Both cardboard circles, yeah. And they have characters on them, and then you stack them up, and then you get like a plastic circle, and you throw the plastic circle at the stack of cardboard circles, and then that's the game.

So I can get you a Hyderman Pog for $1.25, and the shipping is $1.75. You could do that for me? I could do that for you. Thank you. That would be wonderful. The shipping is... I do love that the shipping is more expensive. than the pog itself.

Don't, yeah, don't worry with that. Not important. So, I mean, like, he's getting, there's a bunch of trading cards, there's pogs, there's action figures, there's statues, you're not the only person who appreciates the Hydromen.

There's definitely some merchandise for Hyderman, but I feel like we've established, is there an audience for that merchandise for Hyderman? That's a different question. And also, a lot of that merchandise was released in the 90s, like when we said, to go along with the cartoon, the TV show. A lot of the interest in Hydra Mountain probably peaked around that time.

I don't know. I don't know how interested people would be. And Hydra Man merchandise right now. Well, and this doesn't help that he's essentially just a wet version of the Sandman. Well, that was another problem was a lot of the time in the comics, they would have them interact. There's at least two times, at least two times that I can think of,

where Hyderman and Samman got together and became like Mudman. They just merged together. And which is weird. Like that's got to be weird, right? Yeah. If you think about it, can you imagine like you can move your,

your body at a molecular level, which is an incredible thing. and then suddenly you find another guy that can do the same thing, but on a different molecular level, and then you guys just combine, so now you're part

of him. He's part of you. Yeah, maybe they should just, you know, stop denying their feelings. Yeah. Well, so, like, this is, I mean, we're recording, this is Pride Month, and Marvel

and DC are putting out their Pride comics, so maybe that's like, Maybe that's a way we can, like, update Hyderman. Because that's something they do every now and then. They'll be like, oh, yeah, Iceman's gay now. You say, yeah, you say they do it every once in a while. It's just with Iceman. No, I mean, they did it with Tim Drake in the DC world, or Tim came out as by.

And Superman's son is by. He's got a boyfriend that, he's like a hacker or something like that. But, yeah. So, you know, maybe Hyderman is, oh. I'm going to edit all of this out, but I was like, maybe he's gender fluid, which I think we made that same joke. We did, we did that same joke in the Sinister 6 episode, where you made your all-female team. I don't think you can, you can add it that out because, just because of the little gasp he did

whenever you thought of the joke, you were so, you could tell you were so like, I got this, I got the best joke. I was a person, and I did that same joke too. That was me. So I have that realization on two separate occasions. Yeah, you're like this is going to, everybody's going to love this. This is going to kill. Yeah, but you got to leave it in a nod because it's a great joke.

People can enjoy it a second time. Yeah. I do think our Sinistery six episode, oddly enough, is like one of our lower watched episodes. It's the fucking one where I talk about it, the Hydraman. Bullshit. Yeah. Where you bring up Hydraman four times. Well, if you thought that was one of our lowest rated episodes,

will you check out this one? This is going to bring them in. Yep, sure will. So, Dylan, what is, I do have a question for you as well. We have a tendency to talk about the X-Men a lot. Why do you think that is? Why do we talk about the X-Men? Yeah.

Because they're cool. Right? They're really cool. I mean, not all the time. Why, is there a reason? Do you know the reason? no I don't I mean that's why I was genuinely curious oh well I think part of it as well is because there's so many X-Men like this it's you know but of a rony joke how many X-Men there is

that there's it means that like there's automatically going to be like a lot of crud and that's like prime conversational points for a podcast like this like there's plenty of stuff to talk about there's so many X-Men and there's been so many like ups and downs and questionable stuff with that franchise specifically that it's very easy to talk about it and it just so happens to be something that we all

know a lot about and again I think we all know a lot about it because of the 90s cartoon we that picked our interest and then since then we kept that interest going by keeping up with the X-Men and also I think maybe

the reason like we like the X-Men is just because of the idea of the X-Men themselves. I know whenever they started, they were supposed to be an allegory for like marginalized groups. But it also, but it works for like, you know, let's be honest, as little comic nerds that we are,

you know, I don't want to say we're a marginalized group. That's not what I mean. But like we, I'm sure at some point we've all felt like an outsider or felt like that kind of person. And it's similar to the X-Men where they feel like the outsiders and they don't belong

and they don't fit in. So I feel like we can identify with the X-Men on that kind of level as well. Also, we also love to be part of the X-Men. Like, wouldn't it be cool if like one day Professor X came to your house

and was like, we have to take your child away. He might be magical. He'd be like, oh, dude, fucking awesome. You know? I hope I can blow up cards in my fingers.

That would be awesome. That would be a good one to have. That's, those are the reasons. think what do you think I mean I think that's true I think that like again I think there a lot of it has to do with like that how impactful that X-Men cartoon was yeah and the the powers were so different and so unique like we kind of talked about how we don't ever talk about the Avengers and I think it's because like for the most part the Avengers are kind of bland power set-wise

Like there's so many characters whose thing is like, they're super strong or they fight real good. And it's like, you know what? If you even look at like, you look at the movie Avengers lineup. Captain America, super strength, super agility. Thor, strength and you can call lightning. Iron man, dude in his suit. Black Widow, just to spy. She has small little, she has, she has guns.

She has those little electric things in her wrist. Hawkeye, Archer. And then Hulk, who's like a rage monster. And like that's, there's not a lot of variety there. But like if you watch that like 90s X-Men, you got Cyclops who could shoot lasers out of his eyes, Gambit who throws cards that explode, Wolverines got claws, storm controls the weather. Like there's so, there's so much variety there. Yeah. And like just like mutants in general, like it encourages that kind of variety in powers and appearances and stuff.

And they're just very eye-catching, I think. Yeah, I think so. like the X-Men do a very good job of especially whenever you watch that cartoon when you're a kid like I think you grew up to like understand groups of people better you know diversity and inclusion and stuff like that because well the X-Man you look at them they're a big bunch of freaks but they all get along so well together you know they're all freaky together and that's that's like a common bond that unites them and you're like well that's the same with everyone really we're all basically the same.

Some of us can shoot lightning out of our fingers, you know? Yeah. Well, I think that's like, for example, like I'd still take like the Justice League over like an Avengers lineup because of the diversity and the powers and appearances and stuff. Yeah. I mean, I feel like Black Widow really got the short end of the stick there. Well, and it just...

She's the only woman, like you said, she's the only woman there and her power is spy. Like, come on, man. Yeah, exactly. And like if they're going to go for like the original Avengers lineup, they, you know, they did have some variety there where you had Amman and the Wasp. And they got replaced by Black Widow and Hawkeye.

And Hawkeye wasn't an original Avenger. He was a member of the second Avengers that was referred to as Captain America's Kooky Quartet. Because it was like, Anne Brick Silver and Scarlet Witch. Once you hear that name, you're like, I hate it. It's not going to be good. I think Quicksilver is another character that doesn't get a lot of love. And I thoroughly enjoy Quicksilver.

I enjoy just a pompous asshole, really. Yeah. Yeah, I don't mind Quicksilver. But then there's a guy that you're like, they need to figure out what he does, not what he does, but like his attitude, his demeanor. Like, let's figure out what kind of character. character he is. Similar, ironically, similar to Magneto, like, figure what he is instead of just changing it every five years, you know?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've always, like, I think one of the best issues of X Factor from the 90s, and they revisited it later on in the 2000s, was the examinations issue where all of the members of X Factor had to see Doc Sampson, who is a therapist. and Quicksilver described why he has such a shitty attitude. And it's like, he's like, I'm able to move very, very fast. And I live in a world that is incredibly slow in comparison. So I think he gave the example of like, if you ever been standing at an ATM and there's somebody ahead of you and they don't know how to work the ATM and it takes them forever to decide what they want to do? And like they're doing like a million things and they really should have just gone inside of the bank.

he's like, that's what it's like for me in every interaction, every single day. And it's like, that makes perfect sense. That's why Quicksilver's a dick because he's impatient because he moves and thinks so much faster than everyone else. And that gives him six arms eventually. Yeah, eventually. Because that's, you know, if there's your point against why you didn't like the Flash was the variety of powers, Quicksilver doesn't have like really that much variation.

Yeah. Like, again, I like that because like all you need to do is like figure what he does and then figure how to make that good. Like, you know, you make it really fast. But then if he punches somebody, it's like really obviously hurts a lot more because he's moving so quickly. That's all you need to do. You don't have to complicate it.

Yeah. Like I said, I've always enjoyed Quicksilver because of that. I like the attitude. I like the simplified version of his power is like he doesn't have as much weird stuff going on as the flash. Yeah, he just runs fast. Yeah. Well, and what was it?

Like, they did do a lot of stuff with him. Like, he, he married Luna from the Inhumans, and they had a child. He lost his powers during M-Day. He has been members of multiple teams. Because after he lost his powers, then he stole the Tarragon crystals. Yeah, the Targagin. Yeah, yeah. To try to, like, give people their Paris back, and then that fucked up a lot of mutants.

Yeah. And I'm like, how did that resolve itself? I think it resolved itself. an X factor. Like, I think X Factor is one to confront him about it. And then what? He was like, I'm sorry.

And they're like, that's okay. Is that it? Well, so he did get his powers back eventually. Because there was a series, an Avengers series that came out of Dark Rain that like Hank Pym was the leader of the team. Mighty Avengers was that. And he became a member of that.

And like at that point, Quicksilver had done all these like fucked up things like M-Day and stealing. the Tarragon crystals and he just he just told people like oh yeah I was a scroll like I'd been captured and I was replaced by a scroll and like I didn't do any of that stuff but in reality he did okay you know what that that was really fun yeah yeah I thought that was really cool and like his daughter confronted him about it Luna who's or Luna's yeah no Luna's his daughter Crystal was his wife's yeah yeah so Luna confronted him about it and she didn't expose his secret

but like it definitely put a strain on that relationship between father and daughter. Like that's why like Quicksilver is a very complicated character because he doesn't always get along with people because of that attitude. So like he and Magneto struggle. The only person he's close to is his sister up to the point where they, in the ultimates with fucking Mark Miller, they made them an incestuous couple. Because why not? Yeah.

And I remember like I remember the panel were like Captain America when he finds. out he's like, oh, what? And Wasp is like, oh, it's no big deal. And it's like, are you what? You mean it's no big deal? Like, that's a problem. That's against the law. Yeah, why is Wasp the one that's like, that's fine. I think like a lot of people really liked the Ultimates, but I didn't care for it. It always felt incredibly mean-spirited. And like, that's, like, there's certain writers who I don't like to read because of that. I don't like Mark Miller. I don't really care for Garth Ann is. I feel like a lot of their stuff is like really mean-spirited and really violent for the sake of it. Yeah. I don't know. I don't really know. Well, I know some of the stuff

that happened in that because we've talked about it, but like, I never read it. Yeah. Mark Beller did, didn't he do the Marvel Knights? He probably did. But right now there is the new Ultimates that Hickman's in charge of. I've not heard. heard really, I've not really heard too much about the new ultimate comics. I know that Peter Parker is like older and was like married to Mary Jane and he has kids in it. And I know the X-Men is wildly different. It like takes place in Japan because was it Peach Momiko is writing and illustrating it? Okay. You should, I think Dylan, I think you really like her work. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like it's kind of up your alley. Is she right Hyjamon? Uh, no.

No, no, no. Normally she writes, she seems to be really constrained to the X-Men world. She had, like, a demon, I think it was like, demon something or other that she wrote. I was going to say Demon Days, but I think that's a guerrillas album. That's a guerrillas album, correct? Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, I think you would really like her work. She has a very distinctive style. Okay.

I look at it. Yeah, the ultimate stuff has been fairly well received. I'm a little sour about it because I think like it's partially responsible for while Hickman's series, Gods is ending, and I've been really super into gods. Yeah. But I mean, Marvel's thing is like if you want to,

if you want to get a really motivated Jonathan Hickman, be like, hey, here's this thing, it's free reign, do whatever you want. And like Hickman just goes. Yeah. Because I mean,

he gave us Krakowah. now he's been basically put in charge of the Avengers side of the new Ultimate Universe. Gods was this completely new idea of magic and how it works in the Marvel world. I enjoy Hickman for just a lot of things just because his creativity is, it reminds me of Tolkien, like the idea of like creates a language and like creates like a form of government and this is how money works and like stuff that's not even going to be impacting the story, but his world building is just unparalleled. That's what I like about Tolkien as well.

I'm not super into like the actual books, but I really admire like his just pure dedication to creating the world. Like he didn't half ass and he's like this is a fully fleshed out like entire world. You could just, you know, pick any point and it'll be explained. Jerry like you know yeah yeah so like if you have the so all right we'll go this route you're allowed to pick any creative team to revitalize and rebuild and like like let's say that Dylan you get put in charge of the ultimate universe and you're like you get to create ultimate hydroman what are you going to do with ultimate hydroman like you're

not constrained by continuity and how he's been presented in the past you can do whatever you want with the character. What do you think you would do? I would make him a serial killer. Really? Yeah. I just have him

like drawing people. Like people are like steeping their bed or whatever and he could just like you know creep through the like put his his water through their window and like just like put it down there

throats and you know drying them from the inside so it's like this weird spirit of like people are dying from like drowning but like they're in you know they're nowhere near water and nobody knows what's going on because nobody's seen Hyderman before

and then because of whatever happened to him let's keep a lot of like how he became Hydraman like kind of similar but say that whenever that happened like it like negatively affected something in his head so like you know before that he was just a happy go lucky sailor who you know swabbed the poop deck and did whatever else sailors do and then after the accident it like that really warped him and he became like really um

schizophrenic and and and warped and strange because the process of having your body like combined with water molecules and be able to manipulate that probably has some kind of effect on your psyche so he just kind of like takes out his weird frustrations on other people um and then i would do a thing after that so obviously like spider man would would get him and stuff and spiron you would keep him as a you keep him as a villain of spider man i feel i feel like that's well i just like spider on like that's fair but I don't know who else I mean I guess if you're making him into like a serial killer

you probably think he needs to fight somebody different but you know serial killer is quite a street level kind of criminal which is when you say

when you say serial killer and street level I'm thinking daredevil well that makes sense too honestly like I think that that that pairing would work really well because it's a bit darker than

would be right up Daredevil's kind of Ali and it's also like a but the thing about Spider-Man is he has powers so like that's interesting you have a powerful guy versus a powerful guy but if you have a guy like Hyderman who has this supernatural kind of ability

against Daredevil who is essentially just a really good man just a man who's good at being a man you know he's got incredible senses but like well how did how does a guy like daredevil defeat a man that's made out of water

like that that that adds a different element to it than Spider-Man trying to fight that guy so I think that's a good call Daredevil's a good thing but then I would at the end of it somehow resolve it and this is something I would do Marvel

if you did give me the opportunity to write for this is like what we were talking earlier. I didn't really have an idea for Hyderman, but I do have this idea, which is to make him immortal because... I mean, he's water. Right, exactly. Like, he'll, he'll, he'll, he can't die because he is, in essence, part of the world. And not, not to necessarily make him into like a guy that's like, I'm going to absorb all the water in the world and become master or whatever. Like, I don't know if he can do that, but like the idea that he can't really die, because, you know, he's

because he is just water. Like, you can't kill water. It cycles around. He'll always come back because water cycles around. It always comes back. Yeah. Yeah, water cycle. Yeah.

He's just sometimes in clouds. And again, if one day you got absorbed into the clouds, that would also have an effect on your psyche, I dare say. Well, it would be very ominous too. Like, you know, like if you're a Spider-Man or Daredevil and you know, like, he's always out there. every time it re-ends you're like fuck is it him yeah yeah well and like so so so like here's an idea right so let's say that it is daredevil and let's say that we like kind of soup you know let's let's let's soup his powers up a little bit further like let's say that not only could he yeah exactly

get him a gun no you can make a water gun um But he shoots hydraman. Yeah, it shoots himself. He shoots Hydraman out of the gun. No, let's say like in addition to being able to take on the form of water, but he can like control water. Kind of like Pyro, right? Yes.

Like it will make him like a super version of Pyro where Pyro can control fire, but he can't produce it. So we have Hydromaine who can produce water and he can control it. and like let's say that after the accident like he is just a sailor and because he can control the water he like starts like a shipping business or something nonsense like that and somehow uses that those abilities to make himself like a very successful company and he's got all this money and power and stuff I I've always kind of seen like if you were to try to if you got him into the ocean and maybe they've already done something like this but you get him into the ocean and it just becomes overwhelming because he has to try to separate himself from this great body of water and that like messes with him and like yeah that's like a way you defeat him like you defeat him like you can't he's like how do you imprison him i know that they've like super prisons exist and they put him in

like a tank or some nonsense like that but like how are you going to arrest him you know see like that's the opposite of what they did with the saman because they'd have the saman go to a beach and then he would become the beach like he would just ingrain himself into the beach right but like yeah because you're like well you know if it's all nonsense then it's all nonsense right but like that idea is a much better idea where like if you put him into the water he's like well what do how do i do this what do i do because it's all water and i'm water so like is part of me going to get washed away like how do i pull myself back that's interesting you know yeah we really come up with some ideas here so they did by the way announce the ultimate version of the sinister six

would you like to know the ultimate version is so it's wait wait wait you want to guess yeah go ahead and guess rocket racer no um

dr bong no who else is a bad villain the kangaroo which one exactly I guess the second one I think the first one died

first one is dead the grizzly No Squid Just squid Yeah Yeah Just a

Yeah just as Yeah It's just a squid Just a squid Yeah So So The New Sinister 6

Is Kingpin Mysterio Craven the Hunter Yep Um Mr. Negative Okay

The Mole Man What? Yeah, and A character I've never heard of called Black Cat Wait, Felicia Hardy? No, no, this is a dude With a mustache Hey man, maybe she transitioned.

We don't know. Yeah, maybe. Ultimate universe, it could be different. Well, I mean, the ultimate universe is different. Like, that's the deal. Like, fucking Mysterio looks like a goddamn Cinebite. I don't know who the... I'm unfamiliar with the...

The ultimate universe, so I don't know what their black cat is, if that's a different character or whatever, but like... It looks like it. I have no idea. So, oh, well. No hyderman, though.

No hydra man, though. They fucked up. Yep. Oh, well. I bet he's not going to be in that run at all. Probably not. Unbelievable. See, this is more a recent history from Marvel,

trying to pretend Hydraman didn't exist, but he did exist, God damn it. Yeah, it sure did. Yeah. So I think we can safely call it. We've been recording for a little bit now. And, like, the problem with it just being you and me is like we could probably just keep going at this.

Yeah, it takes somebody to kind of put a lid on it, you know. Yeah, every. now and then I can just feel John's disapproval of like, all right, we're going on too long. Yeah. Like, I could just feel it like more. Do you think he's in Germany right now and he can sense that we're talking about Hydroana for too long?

And that's, you, like, he's, he will, his own, like, displeasure to you and you picked it up. Yeah. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, he, he is Professor X. Yes. John is our Professor X. And it's great because we don't know what he looks like.

So I always imagine it was the big Lebowski, because that's his abatur. I know what John looks like. You know what John looks like? I mean, well, you do the thumbnails, but how close to that are you? Pretty close. Pretty close? Yeah, he has giant glasses. He has giant glasses.

He has long hair. He has no, he doesn't have a nose or mouth. Yeah, no eyes. No eyes, just the glasses. Glasses. Yeah. Because he's Professor X. He doesn't need a sight.

Yeah. He's the James McAvoy, Professor X, before he shaved his head. Yeah, he can perceive everything. He doesn't need eyes. I've seen a picture John years ago, and to the point where, like, he doesn't know how I've seen it because he's so secretive.

He is incredibly secretive. Is it like back in the day? I think there was like a thread on the forum where it was like, post your picture. Do you think that's where we saw it? No. He definitely didn't post it there. Was it like a Facebook thing?

No. Does John, have social media? Yes. What does he have? What's his at? And everybody who can listen can go follow John. So he gets like a dozen notifications.

Poor notifications. He's in Germany and he's like, who the hell are these people? Well, no, because he'll get these three weeks from now, whatever he's here. No, he'll get him now. Yeah, he'll get him in July. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be talking about something else.

And he'd be like, what the fuck? Why am I getting messages? If you follow John post-seminter marriage on his latest update. Yeah, he'll understand. But of course he'll understand what it means. He said half of it. Yeah. But I can't divulge any secrets about John because he would get mad of me.

If you find John and follow him on social. media, send him a Limp Biscuit video in his DMs. Yeah. Dude, have you seen Limp Biscuit played in Belfast like two days ago? Or did you see them? Fuck no. Why?

My friends, like, you want to go see Limp Biscuit? And I'm like, dude, I didn't want to go see Limp Biscuit in 2001. Like, why would I want to see Limp Biscuit in 2004, right? But have you seen Fred Dirtz these days? I mean, I saw him a couple years. ago where he did a show wearing a wig and a fake mustache. He looks like David Cross now. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Like, David Cross the comedian? Yeah. Big beer, baldhead? Well, the thing about Fred Durs is he always wears a hat. Yeah. He can't see if he's bald, but he's got this big fuck-off beard that makes him look like David Cross. All right, there you go.

Check him out. Yeah, if you're listening to this, go. follow Fred Durst on social media. Don't stay away from Fred Durst. People think we really hit Limbiscuit. I mean, we just... I'm pretty ambivalent towards it, to be frank. We just don't care about Limbiscuit is what the difference is.

I don't think we hate them. We just don't care about them. It's just they're rife for good jokes. Yeah. You know what you mean? That's true. but whatever. Yeah, just do whatever you want with Limp Biscuit.

Yeah, we're not cops. You do what you want. The long as it's consensual, you can do whatever you want with Limp Biscuit. Yeah, go for it. Yeah. If he's happy, if you're happy, I'm happy. You know what I mean? Yeah, we know, we want everybody to feel good,

regardless of their relationship with Limpisket. Yes. I can feel John's disapproval again. It's because now we're talking about Limpisket for too long. If we were talking about Brit Pop, maybe you'd be a little more understanding. I think he likes grown music better than Brit Pop. Oh, really? Because he was talking about, like, how we saw Blur and Pulp and stuff back in the day.

Or not back of the day, but recently. Yeah. Well, I saw Blur last year, I think. Yeah, yeah. I was looking at your Instagram because I recently followed you. You did? Yeah. Are you going to plug your Instagram?

Absolutely not. Okay. you're going to plug my Instagram no I won't do that I'll allow you to do that I will plug your your YouTube channel

because I'm still waiting for you to start uploading stuff again that's funny because I actually was recording you stuff this week oh that's awesome what are you recording

uh Pikman oh that's cool so I have I had recorded two episodes of Pikmin ages ago and I forgot about it so I'm like

you know what I did I had some free time and like I want to get back into it so I'm going to do what we do is like record a bunch of episodes in the bank and then start recording or releasing them so I have

a barrier. Steady flow. And so I forgot what I did in episode two of Pickman and just started again in episode three and by the end of episode three realized that I wasted an entire episode by doing something I shouldn't have done. And I'm like, well, fuck.

That's a total waste of time. Why did I do that? Because like the whole episode like, oh boy, this would be really easy if I could just do something else without knowing that I had already unlocked the ability to do that. And just didn't do it because I'm an idiot. So that's going to be fun. I have three, five, I have five episodes of Pickman recorded and then three episodes of a game called my friend Pedro. All right, fair enough.

It involves a talking banana. Fair enough. Yeah, so I'm not going to say any more about that. That was only going to be three episodes just because I thought three was enough. And then Pickman's going to last probably until I finish the game, which will probably be about 30 episodes. And then I'll play it by year. But again, it's still not, by the time you're listening to this, which is in the middle of July, it might be out depending on how quick, I can record new episodes.

We'll see. Yep, we'll see. Whenever, whenever I get it going, then I will promote the show. Whenever I got to go on. Fair enough. So this has been The Smart Avengers. I've been Corey,

and this has been Dylan. I hope you've been listened to our very kind of carefree episode discussing Hydro Man and a couple of different topics. Yeah. Dylan, do you have any, yeah, Dylan, you have any closing thoughts? I don't know.

What's your favorite kind of ice cream? I'm vegan, so I don't really eat ice cream. There's vegan ice cream that's made with oatmeal, but again, I'm not really a sweets person. You don't like ice cream? I'm not crazy about it. I'm not, again, I'm not a sweets person, so. What do you eat whenever you want something nice? People make fun of me because I eat unflavored oatmeal.

Corey. On that note. We will talk to you guys later. Have a good one. Goodbye. Bye. Put in a clip of Johnson, goodbye really weirdly here. Hold on.

Do you want to do an impression? Good more. Come on. Yeah, that's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah.