The Smark Avengers - Vol 3, Ep 22: The Smark Avengers (Minus One) Watch Some Cartoons
Episode Date: July 26, 2024Jon is out and has once more left Corey and Dylan to their own devices. So what do they do? Watch some cartoons! Join the Smark Avengers as Corey and Dylan watch the first episodes of Swamp Thing, Wil...dC.A.T.S., and Phantom 2040!
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So I am excited to be watching these cartoons because we're hitting like three different comic book companies for the most part.
That's good. That's good work from us.
Yeah. It's good for Last Minute Audible as well.
Yeah.
I'm still like, yeah, I'm still kind of want to watch that Justice League movie.
Well, plenty of time for that later.
Oh, boy, I know. I'm looking forward to it.
Because you guys had never heard of it before.
Adam is played by the voice of the Cryptkeeper from Tales from the Crypt.
Okay.
I think that's amazing.
Did you ever watch MASH?
Was that a thing that made its way over to the UK?
Yes.
Do you remember Colonel Winchester?
He was my favorite one.
Yeah, he was the Martian Manhunter.
He did a lot of voice work.
Well, I mean, they put him in a car.
costume which is why they put a big cap over him to hide the fact that he had a big belly
he did he was really good man I love that guy yeah hi everyone welcome to Smart Avengers
my name is Corey and with me is Dylan we are once more Johnless this time because
of last minute obligations and not because he's in another country he's going to
Do you remember that submarine that went to see the Titanic and then it exploded?
Yeah, I do recall that one.
Well, John is on a submarine to go and see that submarine.
Okay.
Well, hopefully it's not controlled by a PlayStation controller this time.
Yeah, hopefully this one doesn't explode.
Fingers crossed, John, we're holding out for you.
John, please don't explode underwater in a submarine.
You probably can't hear this.
You're already underwater.
Yeah, and by the time he does hear it, he'll either be.
dead or he will it will be you know like three weeks from now what if that's his superhero
origin story he was in a submarine that exploded but instead of killing him it actually gave him
like powers the power the power of to flatten himself or have him a magic water hand oh bring it back
a magic water hand but the rest of his body is exactly the same well everyone uh
Originally, the idea for today was that we were going to be watching Roger Corman's Fantastic Four,
which has a long and storied history of one of those, like, real bad movies, but maybe it was a purposeful bad movie.
You know, juries out, there's some people who claim that it was and some people who do not.
So, instead, Dylan and I have opted to watch some potentially bad 90s cartoons.
So there's this thing.
We don't know if they are going to be bad.
So if you're a Generation Z listening to this, there was this thing called Saturday morning cartoons.
That is this thing called Saturday?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there was this thing called Saturday morning cartoons.
We're from like 8 o'clock in the morning until about noon.
It would just be multiple channels would just have nothing but back-to-back cartoon programming.
And then like the advent of like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network kind of made that, you know, kind of go away.
But a lot of these cartoons that we're going to be watching today will be from that particular era.
So we're going to be doing three because these are only like 20 minutes a piece.
So number one is 1991 Swamp Thing, which was a cartoon that Dylan did not know existed.
Correct.
1994's wildcats from Image Comics or Wildstorm technically.
Yeah.
And then 1994's Phantom 2040, which is an interesting one because the Phantom
is a character from like the 1930s that has kind of continued to move forward.
But yeah.
So Dylan, how many of these have you heard of and how many of these have you not?
I've definitely heard of Phantom 2040.
100%.
used to watch that one.
Wildcats, I thought I knew,
but then I was thinking of a different show.
Okay.
That has the word cat in it.
So I got confused.
Was it SWATCat?
It was SWATCats.
I don't know why I knew it would be SWATCats.
That's exactly what it was.
There you go.
I was so exciting because they're like,
oh, dude, we're going to watch it.
Swatcats? Fuck yeah.
Nope. That fucking music
that was crazy.
Yeah, well, I mean, it was pretty well done.
Yeah. We're going to be watching
something that didn't have great music and was not particularly
well done. So now I'm going to
be comparing this to Swatcats.
Swat cats, yeah. I'm going to be like, if this isn't
as good as Swat cats, I'm going to be very disappointed.
I don't think it will be.
You mean, you can also compare it to Samurai Pizza Cats
if that's another one you're familiar with.
Do we talk about that on the show?
No, no. I just have another person
my life who was a big fan of samurai pizza cats yeah oh i talked about this on a different show then
with somebody and they didn't know what samurai pizza cats was and i'm like it's pretty soft
explanatory yes it's cats that make pizzas and also they're samurai i don't i mean it's not
confusing at all yeah what more do you need and that had a great theme shoot yes so that's crazy good
team shades. So right now it's just you, me and my friend Garrison in Boston who remembers Samurai
Pizza Cats. We're the only three that remember summer pizza cats. All right. So first up though is
Swamp Thing from Vertigo slash DC Comics. This aired originally in 1990. And then the fun fact about
this one, there are only five episodes of this cartoon. Only made five. However,
They did make, like, a bunch of action figures and a video game for five episodes of a cartoon.
And it's, you know, it's a thing.
I still can't believe it's only five episodes because I remember watching this as a kid and seeing it.
Yeah.
So, case and point before we watch this, I want everyone to acknowledge that this is Swamp Thing in 1990.
This is not that long after Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run through Vertigo Comics, which was like, you know, a very Alan Moore-esque book.
Not exactly intended for minors or children.
But, you know, just keep that in mind.
So, Dylan, you want to give us a countdown before we can hit play real quick.
If you just search up, it's Swamp Thing 1991, episode one full.
This is a YouTube user whose name is Yoke.
Yovon Vukdenovic.
If that's the case, this might be our Polish listener.
So shout out to you, Yovan.
It's probably not.
It'll be a hell of a coincidence.
It would be really funny.
He loaded it up for us.
He was like, oh, my God.
No, he loaded this 12 years ago.
12 years ago.
Yeah.
12 years ago, yeah.
He's like one of these days,
some of these fucking guys are going to watch this on a show.
And, uh, I'll get out of credit.
3,800 people gave this a thumb.
It was up.
So, you know, will it be 3,801 and 802.
Let's find out.
If you are the Polish guy that listens to our show, feel free to email us and let us know.
Corey, tell me the email address.
I think it's Smart Avengers 52 at Gmail.
Wow, there actually is an email address?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I got to have an email address to register, like, the RSS feed and everything through.
Like, that's legit.
Okay.
We're great business, considering that.
like two thirds of us didn't know we had an email yeah what a surprise yeah all right let's
dive into it uh you want to do the countdown or should i i mean you can do it if you want
all right so three two one oh it's a wild thing get it yeah it's swamp thing oh here comes
John Moxley.
Yep. I was waiting for that, honestly.
Did they say Sponging, you are amazing?
Yes. And then he fights everything nasty.
Okay.
Is this what the Spompton comic was like?
No.
Because it doesn't look appealing.
Is that a vampire?
I think so.
Who are these fucking characters?
I mean, you can absolutely see that this was designed to sell toys.
Yeah, 100%.
He just turned it to goo?
Yes, he did.
Okay.
Not after a good start.
No, we just got through the opening credits.
Yeah, and already I question my life decisions.
If this wins you over, there's four more episodes.
I think it's safe to say that this is not going to win me over.
when was this one made
1? 1991
it
does look very reminiscent of a lot of those
kinds of cartoons
you know what I mean
we're like
a little bit of like the X-Men mom
we're like parts of it look really good
and other parts look really bad
you know you can see where all the money
went in the budget for the episodes
oh man I can't believe that he figured out of way
to get away from the net
oh he tripped him
Who are these guys?
Well, the one in the top hat, apparently, is Dr. Dimo.
Oh, we're hearing Wild Thing again.
Who is the zombie guy?
Which one do you think is the zombie guy?
They look both.
Yeah, they both look like zombies.
I mean, the guy with the blue skin.
I think his character's name was a weed killer.
Okay, who's this guy?
This character's name is Skin Man.
Skin Man.
Like you just now realize there's no steering wheel.
Yeah, he's pretty stupid.
No.
The steering wheel, no.
Crazy good dialogue.
Oh, no, no, there's crocodiles.
He's he talking to.
You know, sometimes it's important to have, like,
these affirmations of yourself.
Yeah.
It was running over that turtle.
A little turtle.
Who's this guy?
Uh, oh, yeah, no, this character's name is Tomahawk.
No.
This is bad.
I'll pretend to be a tree.
Who are these guys?
I don't think you need a car like that to catch frogs.
How do you, like, where do you acquire car?
Like, how do you acquire cars like these?
Yeah, you don't just, like, go to the, the,
use car a lot and buy something like that.
Also, let me terrify these two teenagers.
That didn't move at all.
They just, like, that's brilliant.
That's what I mean about the animation.
They just didn't do anything except move spawn thing in the background.
Muck encrusted mockery of a man.
That's a lot of alliteration.
So this guy, is he a vampire?
I feel like this character is also offensive.
Yes.
Like, that guy's Daffy Dracula, right?
that's Anton Arcane apparently
Uh huh
Who who is a legitimate villain in Swamp thing going back to
1973
What's that torture chamber got to do with this
I gotta say
Earlier when you said this show was clearly made to
To sell toys
And now that we've seen I don't know
50 different characters being introduced
And a lot of wacky looking contraptions
Such as cars and some sort of coffin
it's starting to
yeah
story is starting to check out
like this is this is a toy
you can put your characters in there
and put some group in it
and
like creepy crawlers
yeah and then open it up
and they change size or whatever
magic it's an amazing gift
for your stupid kid you know
um
oh these are unmans
but they were already not men
well now he's a bat not man
I don't like the way his feet
we're moving like that
all right so one of them is now a bug guy
and one of them is now a snake guy
god
that's horrific to look at
this is awful
Delbert
Delbert
A classic American name
why do you get out of the car
isn't the car designed for catching frogs
tasty and true so he eats people
and I yeah
okay eat the fat kid
Eat the fat kid.
That guy's voice
that's very familiar.
Swamp things?
No, the bat.
The fat kid?
The bat?
The bat.
Yeah, that thing.
He sounds like StarScream, doesn't he?
Is it Charlie Adler?
No, a different guy.
Apparently this is a guy named Gordon Maston.
Okay.
I guess he's who you call when, you know,
Star Scream's voice actor is sick.
So he morphed into himself?
No, he got cactus needles.
Bikes.
It feels like a lot's happened, and it's only been eight minutes.
Yeah.
Do they also call this card the Bogfrogger?
I don't.
I mean, I don't know what's going on at all.
I don't know if I would call us a quality cartoon.
Hey, it's Snake Guy.
Ugh.
Looking good.
Uh-huh.
I don't think this is how
anything works. Lock them in the
attic, why?
I guess they've seen too much.
Why don't put them in your
machine that turns them into monsters?
Who is this?
I mean, I recognize the character by the design.
This is
Abigail Arcane, who is like
swamping's big love interest throughout the entire
series of the character.
Uh-huh.
She doesn't mind that he's a big
blob?
No, no, no, not at all.
She's like, that's super cool.
Girl?
I don't think a big trapdoor in the floor
kinds is a secret box.
Yeah, it's a very large trapdoor.
Yeah, I mean, I can see it.
Do you think the guy,
he owns the room?
He's like, oh, fuck, I didn't even know
that that secret trapdoor was there.
They gave her pink lips,
but it's not dark enough,
so it looks like she just doesn't have lips.
also she's very cavalier
with all this information she's very casually dropping
oh yeah there's a guy
he is a big underground laboratory
it's pretty spooky experiments on people
uh you know
I'd say it's pretty bad
don't worry about it
oh yeah I know everything about it
yep here's the exposition dumb
I know everything about it so if the police
came over I'd technically be culpable
because I didn't do anything
to stop it so
don't tell you buddy
I guess red and blue does make or green and yellow does oh geez come on you can do it one more go no we're giving up okay so he made a look he made that tree grow real big he made a concoction that makes a plant big and this guy's like I want that
dr. Holland I'm going to purchase your formula and by purchase I mean steal it because I'm the bad guy I'm
I think you've already shown Matt by having you and your three horrible-looking monsters turn up.
Wait, so this is a flashback?
Yes.
Oh, this is this is a swamp thing.
This is how he's a one thing.
Okay.
He fights the vampire and then they drops the vial and then he turns out the swamp thing.
He didn't even let the explosion stop
before he turned around and said it can't be.
I got that great picture of him.
Now hold on for just a moment.
I need to take a picture to put it in my journal.
Wow, look at this guy.
Did you bring your Polaroids?
Hey, bug guy, why didn't you participate in the fight?
Hi, I don't...
Wait, so Swamping knows who those kids are?
No, Swamping does not appear to know who those children are.
So this guy's plan where, if I,
if I kidnap these kids and tell Swamping about it,
Swantham will come to rescue them and I'll beat them up,
doesn't seem to jive too well, does it?
No, really.
Abigail, give me those two children.
Oh, this guy, I don't like this.
I don't like any of this.
This is uncomfortable to look at.
This guy.
I can't tell if it's, oh, he still has regular human arms too.
Why is he got a gun?
What was that noise?
That was very badly adamant.
This music does not match what's going on at all.
No.
And it's very overpowering.
Yeah, not a whole lot of this is making any sense.
Ah, now there is a trapdoor.
Yeah, here's another car.
There is a secret.
What the fuck vehicle is this?
My goodness.
I wouldn't let that guy drive.
Do you mean?
Snake guy?
Why did he's this guy
Who's that guy?
By you Jack apparently
Oh Jesus Christ
And he's made a laboratory in the swamp
Yes
Hey consent
Ask first
I don't know what is going on anymore
What do you mean this time he's gone too far
We got another car
Kid kidnapping two kids is too far
But genetically experimenting on three people
Is fine and dandy
and ruining your life
but turning into this one thing
that's not too far
but kidnapping two kids
he doesn't even
kidnapped him
he's just chasing after him
on his hover boat
Dylan
there's still like 10 minutes
left of this
I hate this
oh the bug guy
is what he bothers me the most
I don't know if I go
why he's 10 more minutes of this
why does he have ears
I don't like this
why is he wearing
chargers
he's going to get his boots wet
wait wait wait
how fucking deep is this water
where you're driving a hovercraft over the top of it
and you can just stand in the water
what the fuck
doesn't make any sense
oh no
I've been grabbed by the bug man
I don't have to draw that guy
for the thumbnail
they're going to be unboys
dillan
I have
this all seems very creepy
I've just noticed that all of these
characters that are like
I don't know why
Tomahawk and Bayou Jack
why their clothes are all fucked up
and ugly ruined like I could buy like the villains
everybody having like nasty looking clothes
but like why do these two guys look back
because they're bums
see my grandmother did that
your name of your self science
I got her ashes at the mail like six
months later that's a terrible
perspective shot
what are they going to do to him?
though.
I don't suck it out of him.
Those restraints suck.
The restraints suck.
I'll squirt it with my goo.
You know, it does.
I do appreciate the fact that there's a villain named weed killer.
And his chemicals do impact the plant man.
And so let's turn weed killer into a bug.
Yes.
Because he wasn't just good enough on his own.
He needs the extra addition of being a bug.
Yeah, he needs to be a horrific monstrosity.
he needs to be an ugly little monster man
he needs to be the worst thing
the end was what the fuck
did he have a crossbow
with an hour like a
pointer on it
look at that thing
what it just has a big
like comical cartoon arrow pointing on it
we save our laughs
least we can do is run away and never have to talk to him again
under the house
I think we're too late
yeah I think we should just turn around and go home
because I don't like it.
Quick, release the frogs.
That'll help.
What?
Man, the bad guy sucks.
Also, what kind of plan is that we're like, I know what will stop the bad guys?
Frogs.
Like seven frogs.
And then us.
Yeah, then we'll fall out.
And then that will distract everybody enough.
I mean, just flip the switch.
What are these two kids going to do?
Fucking nothing.
Just do your plan anyway.
Oh, no, there's frogs in the laboratory.
whatever.
It's just a giant
wooden arrow.
That's what I'm saying.
What the fuck?
So he spilled it over
something again?
Is that what happened?
I don't understand.
Oh, he got,
yeah,
he's gotten burned.
What?
What?
Why did he turn white?
He got hit with
with monster chemicals also.
What the fuck?
Now he's purple and bald and pruny.
I don't think I can ever forgive you for showing me this.
This might be the end of our friendship.
And do that fontan.
His accent.
Oh, boy.
How do you know?
I mean, he's buddies with him.
I'm back.
So every time this happens, you know he knows how to deal with it?
Yeah, he gets to dried out a little every now and then.
So now they're going to fight?
Oh, stop.
What?
Is this another new car?
The marsh buggy is this thing.
I don't like it.
Any of it.
I hate all of this.
Why?
He's flying.
What's a car going to do?
That bat's coming on me.
I better jump my car.
Don't worry.
I'll just turn my finger to a rope and deal with it.
Yeah, so you don't need your car at all.
So the
transforming them into monster mint did nothing.
Did you just hear they did like the
you know the little
sound effect for like if you're running up
like the Scooby-Doo sound effect
while he was in swinging around in the air?
Like what?
Also weed killer
also it can kill
car tires.
He's in the swamp water.
He's standing in the swamp water.
What?
What's wrong with his hands?
because now he's a snake man
you know how snakes have large fucked up hands
I do know that
why is he got a missile
spray my crotch as I grow
okay
but then he would have got the stuff on him
but I mean he's already fucked up
I guess it can't get any worse
but that's not what happened
he
in the in the
laboratory he spilled that stuff
on small thing and something got bigger
right that happened we saw that so we
I don't know oh boy
just flex him away don't come back
because you didn't teach him a lesson
what the fuck is he now
I have no idea he's a prudy purple man
he writes a journal
yeah he does he's a dear diary
you know we watch some questionable stuff on this show
I think I hate this one the most
It's a rough one isn't it
Can you believe it only lasted for five episodes
I don't know how I got one episode
This one actually made the air
I watched this on TV
And now you can see who's responsible for all of it
Oh
There were only two script assistants
I feel like there should have been at least five
I mean you can tell
Okay I'm just going to close that tab
I think I've seen enough
okay I did the same
that's no more
do you see why we started
with swamp thing
I'm really tired
I would ask your thoughts on it
but I think we made those thoughts pretty well
pretty well known and felt
that that was so painful
it was rough
that was
that was really bad
um
And I don't want that to happen again.
No, don't worry.
I don't think we're going to watch the other episodes of Swamp thing unless we
see on trick John and watching it.
John, I don't know whether I would rather watch that again or be trapped in an exploding submarine.
Because you know you're going to die in the exploding submarine.
Yeah, you just don't know when.
It's definitely going to, well, pretty soon after it explodes, I imagine.
But Swamp Thing.
They need not make your heart sing?
It made my heart very sad.
Okay.
All right.
So we're going to jump from Swamp Thing,
1991 Swamp Thing.
We're going to head over to 1994's Wildcats.
Which we've already established, I thought, was Swat Cats.
So I'm already coming into this in a bad mood.
and now I've just seen
Swamp thing,
so I'm going to be in a really bad mood.
Yeah.
Well, so Wildcats,
I will tell you,
is another one of those things.
It came out.
They had toys.
There's a video game.
Wildcats is a very popular comic series
that was ran and done
essentially by Jim Lee himself.
A lot of these characters are really cool,
and they've been turning up in other places
like Z.
Delet is currently in birds of prey.
Grifter has been in and out of some of the Batman books.
But so these are these are going to be,
if you're not familiar with Wildcats,
he's going to be completely new characters for you.
Some of them are very fun.
But that being said,
on the Wikipedia page for this,
this was apparently ranked number five
on this one person's top 10 worst comic book animated TV shows.
I hope Swamp Thing was number one.
state it.
Well, we'll find out.
Number two.
It's bad.
It warrants that?
Oh yeah, it was real bad.
So,
I will tell you that the things
you look for apparently are
choppy animation,
sloppy voice directing,
careless writing of any superhero
cartoon ever witnessed as far as
plot progression, character development, and dialogue.
And also there is an
embarrassingly obnoxious
theme song.
Okay.
So you're gonna find...
Swamp thing?
Well, we'll see if there's a difference between
1990 and 1994 in that regard.
But this is on the YouTube channel Retro rerun.
I think we already watched some stuff from this channel
before. But yes, this is Wildcats full
episode one. And I'll give us a countdown.
We can get started. So
three, two, one.
Go. Yeah, that theme's rough.
I like a better of the Swamp Thing.
At least this opening credits looks more like an opening credits
than Swamp Thing did.
Some of these characters, I feel like we've seen before.
I mean, like you said, Grifter is pretty popular,
and he turns up in a lot of places.
Yeah. I mean, I guess if it's a Jim Lee thing,
like maybe I just recognize, you know,
just characters that look like this.
Yeah, you recognize his calling cards.
Yeah.
If you ever want to really get into it, I would love to do, like I said, a review of the new 52 stuff because Jim Lee was kind of responsible for a lot of the character designs.
And there is some, you can, you can tell.
What did that say covert action tennis?
Yes, covert action tennis.
The team of Wildcats secretly going to different places across the world to play tennis.
I mean, I'm into that.
Okay, this guy's voice not super good off the bat.
that's that guy's voice
no no no
who was just speaking
uh jacob marlowe
and who is that
uh he's kind of the guy in charge of the wildcats
okay
nice motherboard you got here
be shamed something broke it
yeah
already the animation looks
the animation looks way better than small thing
yeah i don't know why they said it was chompy
I mean we still have 20 minutes from the
fuck it up.
Yeah.
Actually, this looks way better.
Yeah.
See, by this point in Swamp thing, we already knew we hated it.
Yeah.
You know what you mean?
We're like, oh, fuck this.
But already, I'm like, all right.
You know, I mean, they have to go quite a, quite a way to fuck it up.
Running animation was a little rough there.
Yeah, that was, that was a bad idea, that perspective.
but
what's weird
with this
crazy
samurai lady
because it's out of
a space car
with Deadpool
A mortal warrior woman
Yeah
this is pretty standard
how many doors
this fucking car have
That's like a minivan
It's got the side door
and it's got the back door
I like as she said
Come on we're here
Like the car's been sitting there
for like minutes
Yeah
obviously they're there
this guy's very top
heavy
yes
but a very like strong guy
except with like the cool haircut
bam
so do you know all these characters are
yeah
who's she
that's voodoo
okay
and that's mall
is the big green guy
what's his name
mall
I like he's got an on his head
so you can tell
who's this guy
so grifter
cool guy with a bandana face
uh-huh
Spartan is the
guy in blue
uh-huh is a warrior woman
okay
the guy that they're chasing
is warblade
so he's gonna join the team
yeah
okay
I'll fuck him up
now would you believe
they have the rogue gambic dynamic
I could see it
that you got a big try
that was great
yeah that looks fucking awesome
I will say it's inconsistent
if they want to complain about the animation
right but look you know we talked
about that too
um
shows in the 90s
like I said they usually
have that inconsistency
we saw with like that Kenny Pride show
yeah like some of it
look great and some of it look a bit ropey
but like
the great stuff here has been pretty great
you know what I mean
and the ropey stuff hasn't looked like
that shit
you know what you mean that was great
that was really good
That was a lovely sequence.
He just threw a tracking device into a pocket that he no longer has.
He didn't have a pocket.
He suddenly had a pocket.
Now it's gone.
Oh, I was just talking about how good the animation was.
Like, give it a second, fellas.
I mean, that wasn't great either.
Oh.
This is not very covert, to be frank.
Yeah.
They're not playing tennis at all.
What, he's, he's flying that thing.
Oh, he's got microchip eyes?
Oh, no.
Spartan's a robot.
Okay.
How many script directors do you think were in this one?
Hard to tell.
Why does he go in the back?
I mean, he's very big.
So, I wonder what he was looking at.
What the fuck?
Are you talking about?
Yeah.
Whoa, his...
His demands are all wrong.
Yeah, he's supposed to be that little.
That, like, is he small or just...
Yeah, he's just really far away?
No, no, no, he's supposed to be small.
Why?
Is he an alien too?
Yeah, he's an alien.
Okay.
I think Gryfter is the only person here that's human.
Okay.
Look at this villain design, though.
Like when they show a hellspont.
Caraboo.
Caraboo?
That's what he said.
Isn't what he said?
Oh.
What did he say?
It sounded like cariboo, but I don't think that's what he said.
Carabin?
Yeah, because that's like the alien race that he's a part of.
Okay.
That guy being really small.
He's very funny.
Yeah, that's how he's supposed to be.
Why are they cats?
I like, he was like, oh, I got to get back to the real world
after he just witnessed a bunch of wild shit.
Yeah, he's like, well, this was fun, but I gotta go.
I will tell you that the toy line
they made these characters are really fucking good.
Super detailed.
Yeah, like 1994 or 1995.
Significantly better than spawn things.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, we're going to transform you against your will.
Enjoy.
Yeah.
Oh, you want to go home?
Well, fuck you.
Too bad.
Now you're a monster, man.
He's like, why, this is way cool than making computers.
about it.
This was the final straw.
Whoa.
I feel like the voice effect they have for void.
Or don't.
Stop him.
I will do it later.
That was the same animation they reused.
Yep.
What could it be?
It was reasonable.
Yeah.
That's understandable why you would want to.
What the fuck is this weird, floaty thing inside my secret.
laboratory.
Oh dear.
This guy.
Hello.
It's not quite the voice
I expected that kind of have.
Yeah, look at that villain.
That's a fucking villain right there.
It's a hellspond.
I believe his name.
Yeah, but is he as cool
as a weird Dracula
who has a laboratory in his basement.
And it turns to a weird
like prudy
raisin of a man.
He makes little bug man
in his fucking coffin
device.
All right, fair enough.
why would
him going
weird masters
and then trying to
shoot him
doesn't seem
like that jives
you know
he got
he got taken out
that's all it took
he may have
the part
to shape shift
but if he falls
on top of five barrels
he's fucked
that
that guy said that
but like look at him
he's not human
so these little
alien creatures
jump into the minds
of
humans
no I want to keep it
She has like an aon flux almost look to her
I think it's the Arctic Circle too quickly
You know this, this is my one power
I can tell when people are good or not good
Please, it's all I got
That's my thing, you know this, we talked about it all the time
He's not good at that
Get a people to do what he wants
He's not a great team leader
No
And then they all immediately freeze to death
Because it's in the Arctic Circle
It's fucking cold
But they're not humans
Well, grifter is
Well, that's true
Yeah, he seems to be adopted into the cold pretty well
Yeah, he's, his old gimmicks
He's just a mercenary and a con man
Oh, he's a grifter
Yeah, uh, trapdoors
Oh, you fucking idiots
Throw the small girl up there
Remember her, howdy par is that you can tell good people
For bad people
Oh no, we've been restrained somehow
Did he just not notice the woman
That was thrown away
No
by the big monster.
Ah, you fucked it up.
He'll be able to open his big hole.
Thank you for the warm welcome.
I have a forehead tattoo.
I have a forehead tattoo.
You're a robot.
I don't know how this will work.
Oh, it'll work.
But these little guys, look at him.
Little Gremlin's.
They look a lot bigger.
Right?
You don't know that.
It actually feels really good.
Like, oh, man.
Oh, this fucking.
rules. I wish we'd let these aliens
in my head years ago.
He sounds a little bit like
David Lynch.
Yes. He does.
I don't want to have to explain it to you.
Why are my robots doing what I want them to do?
Now, while I'm kicking,
press the buttons. All right, close that door. Thank God.
Pugh! Now that we're
alone together in this big room.
What if I kick you in the penis?
Oh, she filled up
sticker.
So she can
tell the good people
and she can pull
stickers off.
Well, she can
pull the little
monster guy out of
a said.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All I had to do
is get my body
taken over for it
to really matter to me.
No, I'm
suddenly 100%
in this.
Any
pre-conceived
notions I had
of this being weird
are out of
there.
Sell you,
why did I
or save your
fucking ass?
I like this guy
Which one?
The Deadpool guy
Oh yeah
Gryfter?
Yeah
Yeah
Grifter's a great
fucking character
See another thing
Another difference
Between this and Swamp thing
Is this
A cartoon has
characters you actually
Like
Want to
See on
You know
They're fun
Yeah
They have good
qualities to them
You know
recoil at the side of them every time
they regular bug arms around, you know?
So is this a submarine in the Antarctic?
I think this is supposed to be an alien spaceship.
They just also have to have a helicopter.
Yeah, that has a helicopter on it.
Yeah, he's good.
I both.
Fuck you.
An appropriate sign and sign effect.
Sure.
Better than the Scooby-D sign effect
with that guy swinging them around
in Swamp Thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It sounds like I'm being very critical
about Swamp Thing, and that is correct, I am
because I hated that show.
This, dude,
the top five worst.
Yeah.
Comic things, are you kidding me?
Apparently.
This is perfectly acceptable.
Yeah.
There's been no, like, real missteps in this whatsoever.
I mean, his face looked a bit weird there,
but that's fine.
Sure.
you know
oh no
no void
ah fuck
what am I gonna do now
I'm gonna have to get another
really small brunette woman
to be in all my films
all of my aliens have disappeared
have you met my girlfriend
Isabella Rossellini
oh no she's plugged into the
cerebro
I mean that's kind of her functionation
she's supposed to kind of be the cerebral
yeah
dang it our lasers
are no match
For these,
whatever they are,
aliens,
he just appeared out of nowhere.
I mean,
they're doing a pretty good job on it.
Start growing.
What are you doing?
You know, that's actually not a bad plan.
It's like,
we'll just keep getting them bigger
until you break the whole boat.
Who you call on the freak?
Look at you.
This music sounds all right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we just had to watch Swamp thing first.
That's.
But even if we watched this, I don't think we would have been like this sucks.
Like I find this more fun to watch than that Kitty Pride show.
You know what you mean?
Yeah.
This is fine.
That would look a bit ropy.
But other than that, you know, I mean, there is a couple of odd animation blips in it, but it still looks pretty good.
What the heck?
So this only ran for 13 episodes
That's a shame
At one season
Bitch
Stop fucking around
We weren't a team before
But now we are
Got that in the great weird 90s
Like hip-up
Yo, that one flew by
Yeah
There were multiple times
The Swamp thing I felt like it should have ended by now
Oh my God
Swamp thing we were like
Whenever you said we had 10 minutes up to
swamp thing, I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
I might kill myself.
It felt painful.
It did.
But like that, that was, that was all right.
I thought that was a lot of fun, you know?
Absolutely.
Way better.
That's the best one we watched so far today.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, and they've tried to, so the difference,
like with Wildcats,
They've been trying to kind of bring them back into the DC world.
A couple of times, like, Warren Ellis was doing this series that was featuring all, like, the Wildstorm characters.
There was a Wildcats comic that was coming out that just wrapped up, like, a couple months back that featured like zealot and grifter and Spartan and such.
So, you know, characters are good.
I enjoy it well enough.
Yeah, like it all came out on the show.
I liked it.
Yeah.
Villa, yeah, it wasn't, it was not bad.
It was not bad.
I don't know what that.
Yeah, find out who the fuck said this was one of the worst ones he'd ever seen.
Yeah, well, like, find that guy.
Get that guy on this show.
We got stuff to talk to him about it.
I don't know what the fuck show he was watching.
Did he watch different?
It was technically I do comics of the top tens.
I want to find, like, the link to his thing.
Is that what it's called technically I?
Technically, I do the comics.
Yeah, okay, here's the list.
This is from Twitter.
Yeah, let's hear the list.
This guy,
this guy's a fucking idiot.
What the fuck?
Top 10 worst comic book animated TV shows.
We got to find this guy and we're going to jump him.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to jump him in an alley somewhere.
We're going to turn him into a bug man.
So he put number 10 as Ultimate Spider-Man.
Okay.
Number nine is Black Panther, the animated,
series. I haven't seen it.
It's probably too woke for him, though.
Well, and he, okay, so here's his quote,
his quote on Black Panther of the animated series.
The show hasn't been aired on BET
in America, but in Australia. Never heard
about the show, but critics say it's bad and pointless.
So you put it at number nine. Oh, what a
fucking hack. He hasn't even seen it either.
No. The Iron Man, the animated
series. This is the 90s one.
The one we're going to watch whenever
John comes back. Yep.
Numbers
Sorry,
I'm not.
Number seven is Ultra Force, which is that one I was telling you about for Malibu Comics.
Number six, Avengers United They Stand.
That was another one I was going to bring up.
Okay.
Number five was Wildcats.
No, he's wrong.
So this is what his full entry on it is.
If CBS wasn't so adamant about trying to compete with Fox's wildly popular X-Men cartoon in the 90s,
they wouldn't have even bothered commissioning a cartoon featuring the first family of Wildstorm productions.
choppy animation, sloppy voice directing, and most importantly, the most careless writing of any superhero cartoon I've ever witnessed as far as plot progression, character development, and dialogue are all concerned.
Add an embarrassingly obnoxious theme song, and you've got a recipe for disaster.
We've already established that that's all untrue by watching Swamp Thing.
Like everything he just said, that applied the Swamp Thing and did not apply to that show.
Yeah. Number four, number four Swamp Thing.
Only number four.
Only number four.
Number three is...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What does he say with Swamp Thing?
Made in 1991, the show sucks based on Swamp Thing from DC Comics and theme songs so terrible that it has pretty much of a same tone.
If you haven't heard the show, look it up on YouTube or Google it, and you'll hear how bad it is.
So his main complaint is the theme train.
Yeah, that's he keeps going back to.
Number three is...
The only thing was the entire fucking show.
Yeah.
Spider-Man Unlimited is number three.
which do you remember did you ever watch spider man eliminated it was like late 90s
I feel like it but I don't remember it um well that will be another one we go back to
1978's fantastic 4 okay and then Teen Titans Go
what the fuck yeah I feel like this is so Teen Titans Go is like a really divisive animated
series because like it's just the show is just them taking
the piss out of stuff.
Like making fun of the show or making fun of comics in general.
And for some reason, like, there's some really diehard carbook fans who their panties
just get into the biggest bunch over it.
And it's just ridiculous.
So, but like, does this guy have any reasons why, like, legitimate reasons why Teen Titans
Go would be worse than Swamp Thing?
I mean, I probably will.
Let's see.
What did he say?
It ruined the franchise and the characters are cheapish and terrible.
Corny jokes are bad and weird things happen to our characters, including Raven loves ponies.
Yeah, I said it, Raven loves ponies.
Is this guy 13 years old?
I'm going to see if I can find his profile.
His name is Paul.
Hey, Paul, fuck you.
32 years old out of Granbury, Texas.
We're coming for you, Paul.
Come on the show.
Come on the show.
Come back from your long, busy hiatus.
and let's you know let's let's let's let's do some about you yeah
some things that he makes lists about though
WW comics celebrities and entertainment sometimes my comments on the
items are can be good lamer who knows what enjoy the list
feel free to vote but no moaning and whining well guess what
Paul we're moaning and we're whining because this is dumb I mean
I I I think it's pretty unfair of somebody to make a website
where they just whine and complain and then
say you're not allowed to whining complain about my whining and complaining.
You know, that's not fair.
I mean, fucking come to the school yard, Paul,
fucking shove your face in the dirt, steal your lunch money.
We'll go push you down the stairs.
All right, so we got one more in us.
In this one, we're going to stay in 1994,
but we're going to jump to the future to the year 2040.
So, which is fun because most of the time when you look back at old things,
And it's like, the year is 2002 or like 2010.
And it's like, this time's already passed by and it's a little embarrassing.
Because like, oh, wow, none of that really cool stuff happened.
So we still got hopes because we're going to Phantom 2040.
Dylan, are you familiar with the character of The Phantom?
I'm familiar with the show because I used to watch it when I was a kid.
Cool.
So the Phantom, aka the Ghost of the Jungle, was created in 1936.
He is a costumed hero who is operating out of the fictional African country of Bengala.
They call him the ghost who walks and the man who cannot die because the mantle of the phantom is handed down from father to son for generation and generation.
He has no powers.
He's just a dude in a purple suit with a ring and a gun and it's fun.
So Phantom 2040 is obviously the phantom and it is the phantom of the year 2040.
And what's just fun about this one is that this was done by some of the same animators behind Aon Flux.
So it's going to look real fucking cool.
And that's exciting.
Not according to Paul on whatever the comic website was.
To be fair, Paul didn't say shit about this one.
Right, he probably hasn't seen it either.
No.
Paul's too busy crying and whining about Teen Titans Go, a show that's pretty much just to be self-referential and funny for kids.
He didn't treat the superheroes seriously.
No, Corey.
The bad show.
I bet he hates Marvel Superhero Squad, too.
I bet he hates everything.
I bet he does too.
I bet he does too.
I like how we've just turned into slagging off this guy we've never met.
I will never meet.
We'll never meet, Paul.
He's not coming on the show.
He's not coming to the show.
I have no desire to go to Texas.
No, we're not going to pay you.
You have to come on the show for free.
Yeah, and I'm not going to give you.
our Skype
us
either because you'll
just be hitting us up
all the time
want to talk about
WBE
and celebrities
and entertainment
or whatever else
I bet he likes
AW
I bet he does
nerd
seems like a type
let's get into
yeah
before we start
getting done for
sland
or we start
docks in this guy
I bet
that's not even
his real name
I bet it's not
either
I bet it's like
Paul
his name is Paul
his name is
Paul
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, I'm confused.
Let's just watch the show.
All right, we're going to give you, this is on Comics Kingdom, so just look up Phantom 2040, and we'll go in three, or we'll go at one.
So three, two, one.
Okay.
Oh, too real, the planet's dying.
Very true, though.
I mean, in 2040, the planet will be, will be fucked.
I mean, will it look like this, though?
probably that's that aon flux animation everybody's weird and angular yeah interesting perspectives here
gestures jumping off roofs do you think we'll finally get flying cars in 2040 uh no we'll be living
on the grind do you think about all this computer graphic stuff you know i was pretty confident
that i had seen this show as a kid i don't remember any of that
I don't remember any of this
And I feel like I would remember this
With a 3D graphics and shit
I don't remember it
I watched this one as a kid
The jungle would come to me
Yeah
There you go
Upton Sinclair
I was thinking about
What kind of pizza I should get
It's too busy thinking about
This guy
Surfing
Is this fucking surfing on a hovercraft
Machine
That would be nice to have
Instead of a fine part.
I think the music's been pretty good.
Yeah.
You can kind of still hear that kind of like
sort of African influence in it.
Yes.
So what now what's happening?
I guess she's somewhere he does not need to be
and that's why there's something trying to kill him now.
The animation, like the respectiveness
are all very strange.
They do a lot of like blow shots.
Do you mean?
Yeah.
Like shots from the leg, look it up.
Look at up.
Like this, underneath shots.
They do a lot of these already.
We're not even that long end of the show.
I mean, like, that's that weird Aon Flux kind of style of animation
where everything is like, let's show how weirdly grotesque the human body can be.
Oh, well, they definitely do that.
So he has a robot arm.
I think he's playing a video game.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's just playing a video game.
I mean, I'm sure that's going to happen in 2040 for sure.
The video game.
She thinks they're super cool.
Apple jalapeno squid.
I'll tell you it's the future.
That's my new password.
For those listening to this episode,
the password to the Smart Avengers email is not Apple Halapeno Squid.
Apple Halapeno Squid.
That's not the password to the email account.
No.
He's fucking going down on that thing, though.
Jesus Christ.
I don't want to be that guy.
I don't think apple jalapino squid sandwich is good.
I don't think it would be a good combination of flavors or textures.
Kit Walker, Jr.
Son of Kit Walker.
I say you can tell the Phantom was created in the 1930s because the name Kit was being used very frequently.
They've got to bring that back, right?
So the garbage disintegrates when you rub your hands together?
Yeah.
It's a good idea.
Edible garbage.
Yeah.
Then maybe the world would be on fire.
That sounds ominous.
They parked that very close to the road.
Yeah, that's bad, it's bad news.
I think the world is coming to an end.
No shit.
Why do some of the cars fly and some of them will have wheels?
Personal preference, perhaps.
They're cheaper.
It's weird that the robot butler is wishing you a happy birthday.
Look at those future candles, though.
amazing.
Oh, the cat looks really sick.
In jest the airlines.
Oh, well, Boilera is a real dick.
Oh, the cake fell over.
I mean, that's the robot's fault.
The robots shouldn't listen to what the cat has to say.
That was the Ghostbusters noise.
Like, when they turned the proton pack on, that was the same fucking noise.
Yeah.
You know, he's the villain because he has a creepy relationship with his cat.
Yeah.
I like how he's in the color coordinate.
He looks like he's wearing the same.
same clothes his mother is.
Oh yeah.
I know how much you love floor kick.
That his cat spit on it.
Yeah, it's all yours.
My son doesn't love me.
Who's this guy?
It feels like James Woods.
His face is very stretched.
Like James Woods.
James Woods, come on the show too.
Yeah.
We'll fucking push your shit into.
I don't know what the fuck James Woods would want to come
on the show for, but
your best work was done by the
time the 90s rolled around.
His best work was Hercules.
I'd give him that. I give him that.
I fucking love him
in Hercules.
It's such a...
What is up with this guy?
Fucking head and torso and then robot
body. Yeah.
That's got to be uncomfortable.
It can't feel good.
No. I don't think
I'd like that.
So he's just eating a regular apple.
He's not even mixing it with jalapinos or squids.
You lazy prick.
Just turn the page over yourself, you lazy bass.
I feel like the animation in this is way roper than the last one.
Again, I feel like that's just the style of the art team.
There's some, yeah, there's just some stuff going on.
We're like, I don't know about this.
Good Lord, I'm looking at the voice actors on this.
Margot Kidder, Ron Perlman, Leah Remney, Alan Oppenheimer,
Mark Hamill, Debbie Harry, Rob Parson, or Rob Paulson, Paul Williams, geez.
Jesus Christ, oh, he's taking those hits like a champ.
Yeah, they just straight up shot him, and he got his water going on.
I don't really know.
she put a leaf in a ring and just grab handguns
this aunt is hardcore
this guy's playing it's Nintendo
he's apparently reading a book
he's like can somebody shut those lasers up
I'm trying to play Pokemon
wow could you imagine how he just about
dodged those lasers coming at his head
like that
yeah oh shit
right on my heart
what the
what the fuck voice
What voice is that?
What do you mean? The police don't talk like this
and you're from?
Not just the police, man. Nobody talks like that.
Oh, here's a ring and a leaf.
I could eat this.
It's actually a microchip.
Probably is.
Oh, can I hear what happened last night? Fucking sucked, didn't it?
Anyway.
Sorry, you're on dead.
Well, that's a shame.
Everybody dies from lasers.
Yep, that's just the way it is.
Oh, of course Harlan Ellison was a voice actor on this.
That
In 2014
That perspective is all
fucking weird and wrong
This man has nervous energy
He's like
I know the thing
I can help you huh
And he just fucking walks away
Give me all the information
You have on
Ghosts
This voice acting cast
It was fucking unreal
Considering
This is a cartoon
And it doesn't sign
That good so far
The cat's going to eat you
Cyberville
I like those robots
have ties. Let's say you know they're businessmen.
Yeah, they got to look
official when they're shooting their lasers.
That character has
the energy of somebody that was breastfed
for too long. Tries to eat it.
It's a lot of gibberish.
I wonder why they're not listening to you.
Now we're all fucked.
I think the aunt could have left him a note
to go along with the ring. Like, hey, by the way.
Well, she didn't know she was going to die.
There were 35 episodes
of this, by the way.
Hi.
I mean obviously connected with somebody
how I
how gripped are you so far
I mean I'm into it it's just because it's very pretty
and by the way the whole series is on YouTube
a skull if I put my penis inside it
what if I just punch the wall as hard as I fucking can't
nope didn't work okay nope it did
be funny if it didn't don't know where I got that idea from
so his aunt had this ring and she was like
like, I'm just not going to do this stuff?
No, apparently.
Did she know this was here?
She knew it was there.
It was kind of implied that, like,
she was trying to keep him from having to live this life.
Right.
Oh, the video game brainwashes you.
That's lowest lane.
Where did he get this machine from?
I mean, it said that he was like,
his whole background was, like,
in researching plants and stuff.
So I can, I guess like,
by him just having that.
But then why wouldn't his aunt
bring him here if this is all about plants
and shit? I don't know. Like you said,
apparently being the Phantom sucks,
and she was trying to keep him from having to do it.
And it's you.
Bitch. Okay.
All right.
Fair enough. How much does it pay?
Did you see the
the 90s movie that Billy Seine did for this
for the Phantom?
I don't think so.
There's this weird period of
time where they were just making movies of like this like the 1930s and 40s characters like
the shadow and the phantom and like rocketeer although rocketeer was invented in the 80s but yeah
yeah yeah i just remember i remember seeing uh billy zane in this so this is one of those and then a
white man set them free kind of moments sure looks like it's a product of the time because it was like
the 1930s where like people were really starting to explore africa and
They were like, oh, yes, yes, this man who went to Africa, and they accepted him as one of their own and taught him by the ways.
Oh, they explored Africa way before the 1930s.
He was actually quite better than they were at all of their ways.
And he had a sword for some reason.
There was something missing for my life.
It was a blue body suit.
Now I get to have a sword.
I get to have a gun.
I get to have a sword.
It is interesting that in this technological advanced age, where everything is robots and stuff,
well that's Ron Perlman by the way
the way that he like fights him
is that he doesn't have any powers
he just kind of has a sword and is very old school
and that's a very interesting choice
it's a juxtaposition
especially for the hero where you
kind of like in contrast to the last show
we watched where all the heroes are really cool
and had interesting powers and shit
this guy's like I just wear a mask and purple
this must be this
be a mistake. I can't be the Phantom. He says
wearing the Phantom's costume. Yeah.
How did this happen? How did you dress me up
like this? He's going to have, he's going to
have gadgets and whatnot.
Almost invisible.
Stop doing that.
Why?
I don't want to.
You have to take the mask off yourself. Why?
Yeah. Why is the rest of it?
Yeah. But you make the rest of
the mask out of the rest of that. Right.
Why? What the fuck?
Blackmail.
She hung up on them before she
finish your sentence.
Because what they heard was
Bobby...
Uh-oh.
Oh, his leg is fuck.
I got to save them.
By turning invisible?
There's your commentary.
Your social commentary.
Not these days.
I won't put the mask on.
I want to watch my friends
guy on television. Who's filming
them? That guy was almost
invisible. Nope. Should have waited until I was
almost invisible. Oh, man. I can't
believe you saw you once you took your invisibility.
Again, I do kind of appreciate the fact that they kind of have the tribal-esque music playing still.
Yeah.
Shoot the fire with fire.
Yeah, so he doesn't know how to use any of the shit.
And he thought, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to fire this gun on my friend and see what happens.
Just my Chinese finger trap rope.
Goodbye!
I'm here to save you.
Let me kiss you?
Spider-Man.
Now he's strong enough to lift up two people effortlessly.
Yes.
Now, is he saying that over and over again, or are they just repeating the audio?
It sounds like he must be saying that different volumes.
That looks good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that one didn't win you over as much as the other one did, did it.
No, I like the music.
I like some of the animation.
I thought it felt like they had a lot of stuff to try and fit in to that episode.
And I don't know if they were able to accurately do it.
Yeah.
You know, they had a lot of stuff.
stuff going on there.
Yeah, I like the second one the best.
Swat cats.
Yeah, Swat Cats. Samurai Pizza Swat Cats.
Yes.
It was my favorite one so far.
But that one wasn't bad.
It's just, it's, you know, interestingly, Pist.
Yeah, I mean, of the three, it definitely felt like it was the one trying to like
send out a message.
Because the whole thing like, oh yeah, people are just caught up in these games and nobody cares anymore about one another and pollution and the environment's dying.
It's a dystopian setting and they're really laying it in.
They had some sort of message, but I'm not totally sure what that message was because there was a lot going on, you know?
Yeah.
And again, with more time, they could probably sort of die, but I don't know.
I felt like, yeah, like there was a lot, lot going on.
that one. It was a lot going on.
And like, the voice acting cast was definitely
bigger production.
I mean, yeah, Bart, the villain.
When you read the list out, it sounded impressive.
But when we watched the show,
none of the voices really jumped out
as being like spectacularly good.
I would say there was a couple that.
It was like, a bit ropey.
Can you, do you think it was a situation of like,
um, it's 1994.
Some of these people are actors who have been in, like, major productions, and, like, this is just a paycheck.
Do you think it's a situation like that?
Because I remember very famously, there's, like, a video game that got Peter Dinklage, like, still hot from Game of Thrones to do a voice acting piece for it.
And, like, he completely phoned it into a degree that they, like, re-recorded it with somebody else and re-released it.
Yeah.
You know, there could definitely be an.
element of that. I could buy it.
Because like I said, Ron Perlman was
in there somewhere, and I knew which character he was
playing, but it didn't sound like Ron Perlman.
No, none of them sounded like any
anybody
we'd recognize.
I mean, it didn't, like, some of them didn't really sound
like they were putting their whole heart in it either.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if that one.
Well, the joy of
the joy of this is that
there are so many cartoons
that were made from comic books and stuff
especially during the 90s because everybody was trying to catch up with
Fox and X-Men that like there's
there was we were going to watch Iron Man
until Dylan pointed out that maybe John would want to be here for that one
so that's why I went with the three that I did
I don't feel like John would have any strong feelings on
Wildcats or or Phantom 2040
in particular but I know he wouldn't give a shit
if we watched Swamp thing and I just had to put Dylan through that.
Yeah, I feel like in retrospect, it's unfair that we sat through that and John didn't.
Like he, like, as if he got away unpunished.
And I'm like, you're part of the group too.
If we had to sit through that shit, you got to sit through that shit.
That's only fair.
I mean, here's the thing.
I think at some point we need to have like, oh boy, all right, we need to have some sort of a wager.
some sort we need to have some sort of a wager or some sort of a game and like the punishment is that we have to watch the other four episodes of Swamping
I don't I will never play that game Dylan does not like to gamble I love to gamble not about I love I love gambling but I did no fuck away I'm sitting there out again well you wouldn't be sitting through it again you'd be sitting through the remaining four episodes
I couldn't, I couldn't stomach it.
I could barely stomach the first one.
You know, honestly, if we were gambling for something else, but the idea that I could lose and have that punishment thrust upon me is just, it's just not for me.
Yeah.
I can't do it again.
No.
That fucking centipede thing.
See the bug thing?
I'll never get that out of my head.
No, I mean, so like, we got, what will we got out of that?
These are the lessons learned.
Swamp thing, it seems to be a case of, yeah, no matter how much you mutate your incompetent lackeys, they will continue to be incompetent, but they'll just be uglier at it.
Yes.
And Wildcats, it's a situation of, you know, don't let somebody put.
a sticker on your forehead that looks a little green man jump inside your skull that's bad don't do that
i mean i feel like that's good advice for anybody that's that's standard advice don't let strangers put
stickers on your foreheads because you'll never going to know when a little green guy is going to try to jump in
there yeah i mean if somebody's putting a sticker on your face they probably have a little
emotive for it yeah and they're also invading your personal space because you're letting somebody
that close there's no telling what they're going to do next it's not cool just stay away from people
like that and from phantom 2040 we learned that the earth is dying and that our cult
is being erased by our dependence on technology and that we are no longer moving forward
as a society.
Well, we already knew that.
Yeah, I mean, there's only like, what's 2024 now.
So what, that's like 16 more years before we hit?
Yeah.
Before we hit this setting.
Yeah.
So in 16 years, when Dylan and I are both like...
17.
You'll be 17?
All right.
I'll probably be in my 50s because I forgot you have that Benjamin Button syndrome where
you're going backwards.
Yeah, it hurts. It's way more painful than it looks in the film.
He didn't look like he was great in the film, but...
No.
So because you're Benjamin buttoning and I'm going backwards, or you're going backwards, I'm going forwards.
John's just the same. He's going to be the same age no matter what.
He's a vampire. He doesn't...
He is a lovecraftian creature of a Eldridge quality.
That's why he'll be fine when the submarine explodes.
Yeah, he'll just shake it off, you know.
He'll just come right back and go, that was fun.
Once again, I was so tempted to hear his voice.
You can do it.
You can spice it in a meal.
I don't want to. I feel like you'll be mad at me if I do it.
I don't think John ever gets mad at anything.
But we'll have to find out one day.
And that's how we're going to trick him in watching the four remaining episodes of Swamping.
I feel like if he listens to the show, he's going to not watch any of it.
Do you think John's going to listen to the show?
Somebody has to listen to it.
That's true.
Speaking of listening to the show.
we've been the Smart Avengers.
Check us out on Spotify.
If you watch this on YouTube or YouTube,
if you listen to this on Spotify,
I also have a podcast called the
Large Old Cup, where I just kind of talk about
stuff as it happens.
Dylan has a YouTube channel where he's going to be playing
Pickman at this point. We should be a couple episodes
of Pikmin in, right?
Yeah, Pigman.
Yeah, I guess.
All right. That's Exploity Place.
Yes, on YouTube.
John's on Letterbox.
You can find him under the big John Bowsky, I believe is his screen name.
I think.
Yeah, if you look that up on Letterbox and it's not him, don't follow that person.
We're not letting that person have that sweet Smart Avengers bump.
Instead, come back here and let us know that we failed and we will course correct.
We didn't fail.
We just were slightly mistaken.
We didn't fail.
We just didn't get it right.
Yes.
All right, everybody.
Dylan, you have any closing remarks
on Swamp Thing or
Wildcats or Phantom 2040?
Yeah, fuck that guy that wrote that list.
Yeah, seriously.
Fuck you, Paul.
Yeah. What's your real name?
Yeah, Paul.
Anyway.
Yep. We'll see you guys later.
All I got to say with that.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
That's my John.
Oh.
