The Smark Avengers - Vol 3, Ep 22: The Smark Avengers (Minus One) Watch Some Cartoons

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

Jon is out and has once more left Corey and Dylan to their own devices. So what do they do? Watch some cartoons! Join the Smark Avengers as Corey and Dylan watch the first episodes of Swamp Thing, Wil...dC.A.T.S., and Phantom 2040!

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Starting point is 00:00:01 So I am excited to be watching these cartoons because we're hitting like three different comic book companies for the most part. That's good. That's good work from us. Yeah. It's good for Last Minute Audible as well. Yeah. I'm still like, yeah, I'm still kind of want to watch that Justice League movie. Well, plenty of time for that later. Oh, boy, I know. I'm looking forward to it. Because you guys had never heard of it before.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Adam is played by the voice of the Cryptkeeper from Tales from the Crypt. Okay. I think that's amazing. Did you ever watch MASH? Was that a thing that made its way over to the UK? Yes. Do you remember Colonel Winchester? He was my favorite one.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah, he was the Martian Manhunter. He did a lot of voice work. Well, I mean, they put him in a car. costume which is why they put a big cap over him to hide the fact that he had a big belly he did he was really good man I love that guy yeah hi everyone welcome to Smart Avengers my name is Corey and with me is Dylan we are once more Johnless this time because of last minute obligations and not because he's in another country he's going to Do you remember that submarine that went to see the Titanic and then it exploded?
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, I do recall that one. Well, John is on a submarine to go and see that submarine. Okay. Well, hopefully it's not controlled by a PlayStation controller this time. Yeah, hopefully this one doesn't explode. Fingers crossed, John, we're holding out for you. John, please don't explode underwater in a submarine. You probably can't hear this.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You're already underwater. Yeah, and by the time he does hear it, he'll either be. dead or he will it will be you know like three weeks from now what if that's his superhero origin story he was in a submarine that exploded but instead of killing him it actually gave him like powers the power the power of to flatten himself or have him a magic water hand oh bring it back a magic water hand but the rest of his body is exactly the same well everyone uh Originally, the idea for today was that we were going to be watching Roger Corman's Fantastic Four, which has a long and storied history of one of those, like, real bad movies, but maybe it was a purposeful bad movie.
Starting point is 00:02:44 You know, juries out, there's some people who claim that it was and some people who do not. So, instead, Dylan and I have opted to watch some potentially bad 90s cartoons. So there's this thing. We don't know if they are going to be bad. So if you're a Generation Z listening to this, there was this thing called Saturday morning cartoons. That is this thing called Saturday? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 So there was this thing called Saturday morning cartoons. We're from like 8 o'clock in the morning until about noon. It would just be multiple channels would just have nothing but back-to-back cartoon programming. And then like the advent of like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network kind of made that, you know, kind of go away. But a lot of these cartoons that we're going to be watching today will be from that particular era. So we're going to be doing three because these are only like 20 minutes a piece. So number one is 1991 Swamp Thing, which was a cartoon that Dylan did not know existed. Correct.
Starting point is 00:03:50 1994's wildcats from Image Comics or Wildstorm technically. Yeah. And then 1994's Phantom 2040, which is an interesting one because the Phantom is a character from like the 1930s that has kind of continued to move forward. But yeah. So Dylan, how many of these have you heard of and how many of these have you not? I've definitely heard of Phantom 2040. 100%.
Starting point is 00:04:22 used to watch that one. Wildcats, I thought I knew, but then I was thinking of a different show. Okay. That has the word cat in it. So I got confused. Was it SWATCat? It was SWATCats.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I don't know why I knew it would be SWATCats. That's exactly what it was. There you go. I was so exciting because they're like, oh, dude, we're going to watch it. Swatcats? Fuck yeah. Nope. That fucking music that was crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yeah, well, I mean, it was pretty well done. Yeah. We're going to be watching something that didn't have great music and was not particularly well done. So now I'm going to be comparing this to Swatcats. Swat cats, yeah. I'm going to be like, if this isn't as good as Swat cats, I'm going to be very disappointed. I don't think it will be.
Starting point is 00:05:16 You mean, you can also compare it to Samurai Pizza Cats if that's another one you're familiar with. Do we talk about that on the show? No, no. I just have another person my life who was a big fan of samurai pizza cats yeah oh i talked about this on a different show then with somebody and they didn't know what samurai pizza cats was and i'm like it's pretty soft explanatory yes it's cats that make pizzas and also they're samurai i don't i mean it's not confusing at all yeah what more do you need and that had a great theme shoot yes so that's crazy good
Starting point is 00:05:50 team shades. So right now it's just you, me and my friend Garrison in Boston who remembers Samurai Pizza Cats. We're the only three that remember summer pizza cats. All right. So first up though is Swamp Thing from Vertigo slash DC Comics. This aired originally in 1990. And then the fun fact about this one, there are only five episodes of this cartoon. Only made five. However, They did make, like, a bunch of action figures and a video game for five episodes of a cartoon. And it's, you know, it's a thing. I still can't believe it's only five episodes because I remember watching this as a kid and seeing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:41 So, case and point before we watch this, I want everyone to acknowledge that this is Swamp Thing in 1990. This is not that long after Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run through Vertigo Comics, which was like, you know, a very Alan Moore-esque book. Not exactly intended for minors or children. But, you know, just keep that in mind. So, Dylan, you want to give us a countdown before we can hit play real quick. If you just search up, it's Swamp Thing 1991, episode one full. This is a YouTube user whose name is Yoke. Yovon Vukdenovic.
Starting point is 00:07:26 If that's the case, this might be our Polish listener. So shout out to you, Yovan. It's probably not. It'll be a hell of a coincidence. It would be really funny. He loaded it up for us. He was like, oh, my God. No, he loaded this 12 years ago.
Starting point is 00:07:40 12 years ago. Yeah. 12 years ago, yeah. He's like one of these days, some of these fucking guys are going to watch this on a show. And, uh, I'll get out of credit. 3,800 people gave this a thumb. It was up.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So, you know, will it be 3,801 and 802. Let's find out. If you are the Polish guy that listens to our show, feel free to email us and let us know. Corey, tell me the email address. I think it's Smart Avengers 52 at Gmail. Wow, there actually is an email address? Yeah, yeah. Well, I got to have an email address to register, like, the RSS feed and everything through.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Like, that's legit. Okay. We're great business, considering that. like two thirds of us didn't know we had an email yeah what a surprise yeah all right let's dive into it uh you want to do the countdown or should i i mean you can do it if you want all right so three two one oh it's a wild thing get it yeah it's swamp thing oh here comes John Moxley. Yep. I was waiting for that, honestly.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Did they say Sponging, you are amazing? Yes. And then he fights everything nasty. Okay. Is this what the Spompton comic was like? No. Because it doesn't look appealing. Is that a vampire? I think so.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Who are these fucking characters? I mean, you can absolutely see that this was designed to sell toys. Yeah, 100%. He just turned it to goo? Yes, he did. Okay. Not after a good start. No, we just got through the opening credits.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, and already I question my life decisions. If this wins you over, there's four more episodes. I think it's safe to say that this is not going to win me over. when was this one made 1? 1991 it does look very reminiscent of a lot of those kinds of cartoons
Starting point is 00:10:12 you know what I mean we're like a little bit of like the X-Men mom we're like parts of it look really good and other parts look really bad you know you can see where all the money went in the budget for the episodes oh man I can't believe that he figured out of way
Starting point is 00:10:34 to get away from the net oh he tripped him Who are these guys? Well, the one in the top hat, apparently, is Dr. Dimo. Oh, we're hearing Wild Thing again. Who is the zombie guy? Which one do you think is the zombie guy? They look both.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, they both look like zombies. I mean, the guy with the blue skin. I think his character's name was a weed killer. Okay, who's this guy? This character's name is Skin Man. Skin Man. Like you just now realize there's no steering wheel. Yeah, he's pretty stupid.
Starting point is 00:11:38 No. The steering wheel, no. Crazy good dialogue. Oh, no, no, there's crocodiles. He's he talking to. You know, sometimes it's important to have, like, these affirmations of yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It was running over that turtle. A little turtle. Who's this guy? Uh, oh, yeah, no, this character's name is Tomahawk. No. This is bad. I'll pretend to be a tree. Who are these guys?
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't think you need a car like that to catch frogs. How do you, like, where do you acquire car? Like, how do you acquire cars like these? Yeah, you don't just, like, go to the, the, use car a lot and buy something like that. Also, let me terrify these two teenagers. That didn't move at all. They just, like, that's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:13:25 That's what I mean about the animation. They just didn't do anything except move spawn thing in the background. Muck encrusted mockery of a man. That's a lot of alliteration. So this guy, is he a vampire? I feel like this character is also offensive. Yes. Like, that guy's Daffy Dracula, right?
Starting point is 00:13:59 that's Anton Arcane apparently Uh huh Who who is a legitimate villain in Swamp thing going back to 1973 What's that torture chamber got to do with this I gotta say Earlier when you said this show was clearly made to To sell toys
Starting point is 00:14:23 And now that we've seen I don't know 50 different characters being introduced And a lot of wacky looking contraptions Such as cars and some sort of coffin it's starting to yeah story is starting to check out like this is this is a toy
Starting point is 00:14:39 you can put your characters in there and put some group in it and like creepy crawlers yeah and then open it up and they change size or whatever magic it's an amazing gift for your stupid kid you know
Starting point is 00:14:53 um oh these are unmans but they were already not men well now he's a bat not man I don't like the way his feet we're moving like that all right so one of them is now a bug guy and one of them is now a snake guy
Starting point is 00:15:14 god that's horrific to look at this is awful Delbert Delbert A classic American name why do you get out of the car isn't the car designed for catching frogs
Starting point is 00:15:43 tasty and true so he eats people and I yeah okay eat the fat kid Eat the fat kid. That guy's voice that's very familiar. Swamp things? No, the bat.
Starting point is 00:16:10 The fat kid? The bat? The bat. Yeah, that thing. He sounds like StarScream, doesn't he? Is it Charlie Adler? No, a different guy. Apparently this is a guy named Gordon Maston.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Okay. I guess he's who you call when, you know, Star Scream's voice actor is sick. So he morphed into himself? No, he got cactus needles. Bikes. It feels like a lot's happened, and it's only been eight minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Do they also call this card the Bogfrogger? I don't. I mean, I don't know what's going on at all. I don't know if I would call us a quality cartoon. Hey, it's Snake Guy. Ugh. Looking good. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I don't think this is how anything works. Lock them in the attic, why? I guess they've seen too much. Why don't put them in your machine that turns them into monsters? Who is this? I mean, I recognize the character by the design.
Starting point is 00:17:46 This is Abigail Arcane, who is like swamping's big love interest throughout the entire series of the character. Uh-huh. She doesn't mind that he's a big blob? No, no, no, not at all.
Starting point is 00:18:01 She's like, that's super cool. Girl? I don't think a big trapdoor in the floor kinds is a secret box. Yeah, it's a very large trapdoor. Yeah, I mean, I can see it. Do you think the guy, he owns the room?
Starting point is 00:18:29 He's like, oh, fuck, I didn't even know that that secret trapdoor was there. They gave her pink lips, but it's not dark enough, so it looks like she just doesn't have lips. also she's very cavalier with all this information she's very casually dropping oh yeah there's a guy
Starting point is 00:18:48 he is a big underground laboratory it's pretty spooky experiments on people uh you know I'd say it's pretty bad don't worry about it oh yeah I know everything about it yep here's the exposition dumb I know everything about it so if the police
Starting point is 00:19:04 came over I'd technically be culpable because I didn't do anything to stop it so don't tell you buddy I guess red and blue does make or green and yellow does oh geez come on you can do it one more go no we're giving up okay so he made a look he made that tree grow real big he made a concoction that makes a plant big and this guy's like I want that dr. Holland I'm going to purchase your formula and by purchase I mean steal it because I'm the bad guy I'm I think you've already shown Matt by having you and your three horrible-looking monsters turn up. Wait, so this is a flashback?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yes. Oh, this is this is a swamp thing. This is how he's a one thing. Okay. He fights the vampire and then they drops the vial and then he turns out the swamp thing. He didn't even let the explosion stop before he turned around and said it can't be. I got that great picture of him.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Now hold on for just a moment. I need to take a picture to put it in my journal. Wow, look at this guy. Did you bring your Polaroids? Hey, bug guy, why didn't you participate in the fight? Hi, I don't... Wait, so Swamping knows who those kids are? No, Swamping does not appear to know who those children are.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So this guy's plan where, if I, if I kidnap these kids and tell Swamping about it, Swantham will come to rescue them and I'll beat them up, doesn't seem to jive too well, does it? No, really. Abigail, give me those two children. Oh, this guy, I don't like this. I don't like any of this.
Starting point is 00:21:46 This is uncomfortable to look at. This guy. I can't tell if it's, oh, he still has regular human arms too. Why is he got a gun? What was that noise? That was very badly adamant. This music does not match what's going on at all. No.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And it's very overpowering. Yeah, not a whole lot of this is making any sense. Ah, now there is a trapdoor. Yeah, here's another car. There is a secret. What the fuck vehicle is this? My goodness. I wouldn't let that guy drive.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Do you mean? Snake guy? Why did he's this guy Who's that guy? By you Jack apparently Oh Jesus Christ And he's made a laboratory in the swamp Yes
Starting point is 00:22:55 Hey consent Ask first I don't know what is going on anymore What do you mean this time he's gone too far We got another car Kid kidnapping two kids is too far But genetically experimenting on three people Is fine and dandy
Starting point is 00:23:16 and ruining your life but turning into this one thing that's not too far but kidnapping two kids he doesn't even kidnapped him he's just chasing after him on his hover boat
Starting point is 00:23:27 Dylan there's still like 10 minutes left of this I hate this oh the bug guy is what he bothers me the most I don't know if I go why he's 10 more minutes of this
Starting point is 00:23:39 why does he have ears I don't like this why is he wearing chargers he's going to get his boots wet wait wait wait how fucking deep is this water where you're driving a hovercraft over the top of it
Starting point is 00:24:00 and you can just stand in the water what the fuck doesn't make any sense oh no I've been grabbed by the bug man I don't have to draw that guy for the thumbnail they're going to be unboys
Starting point is 00:24:20 dillan I have this all seems very creepy I've just noticed that all of these characters that are like I don't know why Tomahawk and Bayou Jack why their clothes are all fucked up
Starting point is 00:24:37 and ugly ruined like I could buy like the villains everybody having like nasty looking clothes but like why do these two guys look back because they're bums see my grandmother did that your name of your self science I got her ashes at the mail like six months later that's a terrible
Starting point is 00:25:01 perspective shot what are they going to do to him? though. I don't suck it out of him. Those restraints suck. The restraints suck. I'll squirt it with my goo. You know, it does.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I do appreciate the fact that there's a villain named weed killer. And his chemicals do impact the plant man. And so let's turn weed killer into a bug. Yes. Because he wasn't just good enough on his own. He needs the extra addition of being a bug. Yeah, he needs to be a horrific monstrosity. he needs to be an ugly little monster man
Starting point is 00:25:46 he needs to be the worst thing the end was what the fuck did he have a crossbow with an hour like a pointer on it look at that thing what it just has a big like comical cartoon arrow pointing on it
Starting point is 00:26:04 we save our laughs least we can do is run away and never have to talk to him again under the house I think we're too late yeah I think we should just turn around and go home because I don't like it. Quick, release the frogs. That'll help.
Starting point is 00:26:38 What? Man, the bad guy sucks. Also, what kind of plan is that we're like, I know what will stop the bad guys? Frogs. Like seven frogs. And then us. Yeah, then we'll fall out. And then that will distract everybody enough.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I mean, just flip the switch. What are these two kids going to do? Fucking nothing. Just do your plan anyway. Oh, no, there's frogs in the laboratory. whatever. It's just a giant wooden arrow.
Starting point is 00:27:12 That's what I'm saying. What the fuck? So he spilled it over something again? Is that what happened? I don't understand. Oh, he got, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:27 he's gotten burned. What? What? Why did he turn white? He got hit with with monster chemicals also. What the fuck? Now he's purple and bald and pruny.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I don't think I can ever forgive you for showing me this. This might be the end of our friendship. And do that fontan. His accent. Oh, boy. How do you know? I mean, he's buddies with him. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So every time this happens, you know he knows how to deal with it? Yeah, he gets to dried out a little every now and then. So now they're going to fight? Oh, stop. What? Is this another new car? The marsh buggy is this thing. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Any of it. I hate all of this. Why? He's flying. What's a car going to do? That bat's coming on me. I better jump my car. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I'll just turn my finger to a rope and deal with it. Yeah, so you don't need your car at all. So the transforming them into monster mint did nothing. Did you just hear they did like the you know the little sound effect for like if you're running up like the Scooby-Doo sound effect
Starting point is 00:29:20 while he was in swinging around in the air? Like what? Also weed killer also it can kill car tires. He's in the swamp water. He's standing in the swamp water. What?
Starting point is 00:29:50 What's wrong with his hands? because now he's a snake man you know how snakes have large fucked up hands I do know that why is he got a missile spray my crotch as I grow okay but then he would have got the stuff on him
Starting point is 00:30:26 but I mean he's already fucked up I guess it can't get any worse but that's not what happened he in the in the laboratory he spilled that stuff on small thing and something got bigger right that happened we saw that so we
Starting point is 00:30:47 I don't know oh boy just flex him away don't come back because you didn't teach him a lesson what the fuck is he now I have no idea he's a prudy purple man he writes a journal yeah he does he's a dear diary you know we watch some questionable stuff on this show
Starting point is 00:31:33 I think I hate this one the most It's a rough one isn't it Can you believe it only lasted for five episodes I don't know how I got one episode This one actually made the air I watched this on TV And now you can see who's responsible for all of it Oh
Starting point is 00:31:57 There were only two script assistants I feel like there should have been at least five I mean you can tell Okay I'm just going to close that tab I think I've seen enough okay I did the same that's no more do you see why we started
Starting point is 00:32:19 with swamp thing I'm really tired I would ask your thoughts on it but I think we made those thoughts pretty well pretty well known and felt that that was so painful it was rough that was
Starting point is 00:32:39 that was really bad um And I don't want that to happen again. No, don't worry. I don't think we're going to watch the other episodes of Swamp thing unless we see on trick John and watching it. John, I don't know whether I would rather watch that again or be trapped in an exploding submarine. Because you know you're going to die in the exploding submarine.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah, you just don't know when. It's definitely going to, well, pretty soon after it explodes, I imagine. But Swamp Thing. They need not make your heart sing? It made my heart very sad. Okay. All right. So we're going to jump from Swamp Thing,
Starting point is 00:33:32 1991 Swamp Thing. We're going to head over to 1994's Wildcats. Which we've already established, I thought, was Swat Cats. So I'm already coming into this in a bad mood. and now I've just seen Swamp thing, so I'm going to be in a really bad mood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Well, so Wildcats, I will tell you, is another one of those things. It came out. They had toys. There's a video game. Wildcats is a very popular comic series that was ran and done
Starting point is 00:34:07 essentially by Jim Lee himself. A lot of these characters are really cool, and they've been turning up in other places like Z. Delet is currently in birds of prey. Grifter has been in and out of some of the Batman books. But so these are these are going to be, if you're not familiar with Wildcats,
Starting point is 00:34:25 he's going to be completely new characters for you. Some of them are very fun. But that being said, on the Wikipedia page for this, this was apparently ranked number five on this one person's top 10 worst comic book animated TV shows. I hope Swamp Thing was number one. state it.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Well, we'll find out. Number two. It's bad. It warrants that? Oh yeah, it was real bad. So, I will tell you that the things you look for apparently are
Starting point is 00:35:00 choppy animation, sloppy voice directing, careless writing of any superhero cartoon ever witnessed as far as plot progression, character development, and dialogue. And also there is an embarrassingly obnoxious theme song.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Okay. So you're gonna find... Swamp thing? Well, we'll see if there's a difference between 1990 and 1994 in that regard. But this is on the YouTube channel Retro rerun. I think we already watched some stuff from this channel before. But yes, this is Wildcats full
Starting point is 00:35:37 episode one. And I'll give us a countdown. We can get started. So three, two, one. Go. Yeah, that theme's rough. I like a better of the Swamp Thing. At least this opening credits looks more like an opening credits than Swamp Thing did. Some of these characters, I feel like we've seen before.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I mean, like you said, Grifter is pretty popular, and he turns up in a lot of places. Yeah. I mean, I guess if it's a Jim Lee thing, like maybe I just recognize, you know, just characters that look like this. Yeah, you recognize his calling cards. Yeah. If you ever want to really get into it, I would love to do, like I said, a review of the new 52 stuff because Jim Lee was kind of responsible for a lot of the character designs.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And there is some, you can, you can tell. What did that say covert action tennis? Yes, covert action tennis. The team of Wildcats secretly going to different places across the world to play tennis. I mean, I'm into that. Okay, this guy's voice not super good off the bat. that's that guy's voice no no no
Starting point is 00:37:23 who was just speaking uh jacob marlowe and who is that uh he's kind of the guy in charge of the wildcats okay nice motherboard you got here be shamed something broke it yeah
Starting point is 00:37:42 already the animation looks the animation looks way better than small thing yeah i don't know why they said it was chompy I mean we still have 20 minutes from the fuck it up. Yeah. Actually, this looks way better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:08 See, by this point in Swamp thing, we already knew we hated it. Yeah. You know what you mean? We're like, oh, fuck this. But already, I'm like, all right. You know, I mean, they have to go quite a, quite a way to fuck it up. Running animation was a little rough there. Yeah, that was, that was a bad idea, that perspective.
Starting point is 00:38:30 but what's weird with this crazy samurai lady because it's out of a space car with Deadpool
Starting point is 00:38:45 A mortal warrior woman Yeah this is pretty standard how many doors this fucking car have That's like a minivan It's got the side door and it's got the back door
Starting point is 00:39:01 I like as she said Come on we're here Like the car's been sitting there for like minutes Yeah obviously they're there this guy's very top heavy
Starting point is 00:39:14 yes but a very like strong guy except with like the cool haircut bam so do you know all these characters are yeah who's she that's voodoo
Starting point is 00:39:34 okay and that's mall is the big green guy what's his name mall I like he's got an on his head so you can tell who's this guy
Starting point is 00:39:45 so grifter cool guy with a bandana face uh-huh Spartan is the guy in blue uh-huh is a warrior woman okay the guy that they're chasing
Starting point is 00:39:56 is warblade so he's gonna join the team yeah okay I'll fuck him up now would you believe they have the rogue gambic dynamic I could see it
Starting point is 00:40:18 that you got a big try that was great yeah that looks fucking awesome I will say it's inconsistent if they want to complain about the animation right but look you know we talked about that too um
Starting point is 00:40:32 shows in the 90s like I said they usually have that inconsistency we saw with like that Kenny Pride show yeah like some of it look great and some of it look a bit ropey but like the great stuff here has been pretty great
Starting point is 00:40:48 you know what I mean and the ropey stuff hasn't looked like that shit you know what you mean that was great that was really good That was a lovely sequence. He just threw a tracking device into a pocket that he no longer has. He didn't have a pocket.
Starting point is 00:41:04 He suddenly had a pocket. Now it's gone. Oh, I was just talking about how good the animation was. Like, give it a second, fellas. I mean, that wasn't great either. Oh. This is not very covert, to be frank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 They're not playing tennis at all. What, he's, he's flying that thing. Oh, he's got microchip eyes? Oh, no. Spartan's a robot. Okay. How many script directors do you think were in this one? Hard to tell.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Why does he go in the back? I mean, he's very big. So, I wonder what he was looking at. What the fuck? Are you talking about? Yeah. Whoa, his... His demands are all wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah, he's supposed to be that little. That, like, is he small or just... Yeah, he's just really far away? No, no, no, he's supposed to be small. Why? Is he an alien too? Yeah, he's an alien. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I think Gryfter is the only person here that's human. Okay. Look at this villain design, though. Like when they show a hellspont. Caraboo. Caraboo? That's what he said. Isn't what he said?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Oh. What did he say? It sounded like cariboo, but I don't think that's what he said. Carabin? Yeah, because that's like the alien race that he's a part of. Okay. That guy being really small. He's very funny.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, that's how he's supposed to be. Why are they cats? I like, he was like, oh, I got to get back to the real world after he just witnessed a bunch of wild shit. Yeah, he's like, well, this was fun, but I gotta go. I will tell you that the toy line they made these characters are really fucking good. Super detailed.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, like 1994 or 1995. Significantly better than spawn things. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we're going to transform you against your will. Enjoy. Yeah. Oh, you want to go home? Well, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Too bad. Now you're a monster, man. He's like, why, this is way cool than making computers. about it. This was the final straw. Whoa. I feel like the voice effect they have for void. Or don't.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Stop him. I will do it later. That was the same animation they reused. Yep. What could it be? It was reasonable. Yeah. That's understandable why you would want to.
Starting point is 00:46:06 What the fuck is this weird, floaty thing inside my secret. laboratory. Oh dear. This guy. Hello. It's not quite the voice I expected that kind of have. Yeah, look at that villain.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's a fucking villain right there. It's a hellspond. I believe his name. Yeah, but is he as cool as a weird Dracula who has a laboratory in his basement. And it turns to a weird like prudy
Starting point is 00:46:41 raisin of a man. He makes little bug man in his fucking coffin device. All right, fair enough. why would him going weird masters
Starting point is 00:47:02 and then trying to shoot him doesn't seem like that jives you know he got he got taken out that's all it took
Starting point is 00:47:10 he may have the part to shape shift but if he falls on top of five barrels he's fucked that that guy said that
Starting point is 00:47:29 but like look at him he's not human so these little alien creatures jump into the minds of humans no I want to keep it
Starting point is 00:48:09 She has like an aon flux almost look to her I think it's the Arctic Circle too quickly You know this, this is my one power I can tell when people are good or not good Please, it's all I got That's my thing, you know this, we talked about it all the time He's not good at that Get a people to do what he wants
Starting point is 00:48:58 He's not a great team leader No And then they all immediately freeze to death Because it's in the Arctic Circle It's fucking cold But they're not humans Well, grifter is Well, that's true
Starting point is 00:49:19 Yeah, he seems to be adopted into the cold pretty well Yeah, he's, his old gimmicks He's just a mercenary and a con man Oh, he's a grifter Yeah, uh, trapdoors Oh, you fucking idiots Throw the small girl up there Remember her, howdy par is that you can tell good people
Starting point is 00:49:42 For bad people Oh no, we've been restrained somehow Did he just not notice the woman That was thrown away No by the big monster. Ah, you fucked it up. He'll be able to open his big hole.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Thank you for the warm welcome. I have a forehead tattoo. I have a forehead tattoo. You're a robot. I don't know how this will work. Oh, it'll work. But these little guys, look at him. Little Gremlin's.
Starting point is 00:50:29 They look a lot bigger. Right? You don't know that. It actually feels really good. Like, oh, man. Oh, this fucking. rules. I wish we'd let these aliens in my head years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He sounds a little bit like David Lynch. Yes. He does. I don't want to have to explain it to you. Why are my robots doing what I want them to do? Now, while I'm kicking, press the buttons. All right, close that door. Thank God. Pugh! Now that we're
Starting point is 00:51:29 alone together in this big room. What if I kick you in the penis? Oh, she filled up sticker. So she can tell the good people and she can pull stickers off.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Well, she can pull the little monster guy out of a said. Yeah. Yeah. All I had to do is get my body
Starting point is 00:52:08 taken over for it to really matter to me. No, I'm suddenly 100% in this. Any pre-conceived notions I had
Starting point is 00:52:20 of this being weird are out of there. Sell you, why did I or save your fucking ass? I like this guy
Starting point is 00:52:37 Which one? The Deadpool guy Oh yeah Gryfter? Yeah Yeah Grifter's a great fucking character
Starting point is 00:52:46 See another thing Another difference Between this and Swamp thing Is this A cartoon has characters you actually Like Want to
Starting point is 00:52:59 See on You know They're fun Yeah They have good qualities to them You know recoil at the side of them every time
Starting point is 00:53:10 they regular bug arms around, you know? So is this a submarine in the Antarctic? I think this is supposed to be an alien spaceship. They just also have to have a helicopter. Yeah, that has a helicopter on it. Yeah, he's good. I both. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:54:13 An appropriate sign and sign effect. Sure. Better than the Scooby-D sign effect with that guy swinging them around in Swamp Thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. It sounds like I'm being very critical about Swamp Thing, and that is correct, I am
Starting point is 00:54:27 because I hated that show. This, dude, the top five worst. Yeah. Comic things, are you kidding me? Apparently. This is perfectly acceptable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:43 There's been no, like, real missteps in this whatsoever. I mean, his face looked a bit weird there, but that's fine. Sure. you know oh no no void ah fuck
Starting point is 00:55:09 what am I gonna do now I'm gonna have to get another really small brunette woman to be in all my films all of my aliens have disappeared have you met my girlfriend Isabella Rossellini oh no she's plugged into the
Starting point is 00:55:26 cerebro I mean that's kind of her functionation she's supposed to kind of be the cerebral yeah dang it our lasers are no match For these, whatever they are,
Starting point is 00:55:46 aliens, he just appeared out of nowhere. I mean, they're doing a pretty good job on it. Start growing. What are you doing? You know, that's actually not a bad plan. It's like,
Starting point is 00:56:10 we'll just keep getting them bigger until you break the whole boat. Who you call on the freak? Look at you. This music sounds all right. Yeah. Yeah. I think we just had to watch Swamp thing first.
Starting point is 00:56:33 That's. But even if we watched this, I don't think we would have been like this sucks. Like I find this more fun to watch than that Kitty Pride show. You know what you mean? Yeah. This is fine. That would look a bit ropy. But other than that, you know, I mean, there is a couple of odd animation blips in it, but it still looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:57:13 What the heck? So this only ran for 13 episodes That's a shame At one season Bitch Stop fucking around We weren't a team before But now we are
Starting point is 00:58:02 Got that in the great weird 90s Like hip-up Yo, that one flew by Yeah There were multiple times The Swamp thing I felt like it should have ended by now Oh my God Swamp thing we were like
Starting point is 00:58:30 Whenever you said we had 10 minutes up to swamp thing, I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I might kill myself. It felt painful. It did. But like that, that was, that was all right. I thought that was a lot of fun, you know? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Way better. That's the best one we watched so far today. Yeah, yeah. Well, and they've tried to, so the difference, like with Wildcats, They've been trying to kind of bring them back into the DC world. A couple of times, like, Warren Ellis was doing this series that was featuring all, like, the Wildstorm characters. There was a Wildcats comic that was coming out that just wrapped up, like, a couple months back that featured like zealot and grifter and Spartan and such.
Starting point is 00:59:20 So, you know, characters are good. I enjoy it well enough. Yeah, like it all came out on the show. I liked it. Yeah. Villa, yeah, it wasn't, it was not bad. It was not bad. I don't know what that.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, find out who the fuck said this was one of the worst ones he'd ever seen. Yeah, well, like, find that guy. Get that guy on this show. We got stuff to talk to him about it. I don't know what the fuck show he was watching. Did he watch different? It was technically I do comics of the top tens. I want to find, like, the link to his thing.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Is that what it's called technically I? Technically, I do the comics. Yeah, okay, here's the list. This is from Twitter. Yeah, let's hear the list. This guy, this guy's a fucking idiot. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Top 10 worst comic book animated TV shows. We got to find this guy and we're going to jump him. Oh, yeah. We're going to jump him in an alley somewhere. We're going to turn him into a bug man. So he put number 10 as Ultimate Spider-Man. Okay. Number nine is Black Panther, the animated,
Starting point is 01:00:29 series. I haven't seen it. It's probably too woke for him, though. Well, and he, okay, so here's his quote, his quote on Black Panther of the animated series. The show hasn't been aired on BET in America, but in Australia. Never heard about the show, but critics say it's bad and pointless. So you put it at number nine. Oh, what a
Starting point is 01:00:47 fucking hack. He hasn't even seen it either. No. The Iron Man, the animated series. This is the 90s one. The one we're going to watch whenever John comes back. Yep. Numbers Sorry, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Number seven is Ultra Force, which is that one I was telling you about for Malibu Comics. Number six, Avengers United They Stand. That was another one I was going to bring up. Okay. Number five was Wildcats. No, he's wrong. So this is what his full entry on it is. If CBS wasn't so adamant about trying to compete with Fox's wildly popular X-Men cartoon in the 90s,
Starting point is 01:01:25 they wouldn't have even bothered commissioning a cartoon featuring the first family of Wildstorm productions. choppy animation, sloppy voice directing, and most importantly, the most careless writing of any superhero cartoon I've ever witnessed as far as plot progression, character development, and dialogue are all concerned. Add an embarrassingly obnoxious theme song, and you've got a recipe for disaster. We've already established that that's all untrue by watching Swamp Thing. Like everything he just said, that applied the Swamp Thing and did not apply to that show. Yeah. Number four, number four Swamp Thing. Only number four. Only number four.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Number three is... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What does he say with Swamp Thing? Made in 1991, the show sucks based on Swamp Thing from DC Comics and theme songs so terrible that it has pretty much of a same tone. If you haven't heard the show, look it up on YouTube or Google it, and you'll hear how bad it is. So his main complaint is the theme train. Yeah, that's he keeps going back to. Number three is...
Starting point is 01:02:24 The only thing was the entire fucking show. Yeah. Spider-Man Unlimited is number three. which do you remember did you ever watch spider man eliminated it was like late 90s I feel like it but I don't remember it um well that will be another one we go back to 1978's fantastic 4 okay and then Teen Titans Go what the fuck yeah I feel like this is so Teen Titans Go is like a really divisive animated series because like it's just the show is just them taking
Starting point is 01:03:00 the piss out of stuff. Like making fun of the show or making fun of comics in general. And for some reason, like, there's some really diehard carbook fans who their panties just get into the biggest bunch over it. And it's just ridiculous. So, but like, does this guy have any reasons why, like, legitimate reasons why Teen Titans Go would be worse than Swamp Thing? I mean, I probably will.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Let's see. What did he say? It ruined the franchise and the characters are cheapish and terrible. Corny jokes are bad and weird things happen to our characters, including Raven loves ponies. Yeah, I said it, Raven loves ponies. Is this guy 13 years old? I'm going to see if I can find his profile. His name is Paul.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Hey, Paul, fuck you. 32 years old out of Granbury, Texas. We're coming for you, Paul. Come on the show. Come on the show. Come back from your long, busy hiatus. and let's you know let's let's let's let's do some about you yeah some things that he makes lists about though
Starting point is 01:04:05 WW comics celebrities and entertainment sometimes my comments on the items are can be good lamer who knows what enjoy the list feel free to vote but no moaning and whining well guess what Paul we're moaning and we're whining because this is dumb I mean I I I think it's pretty unfair of somebody to make a website where they just whine and complain and then say you're not allowed to whining complain about my whining and complaining. You know, that's not fair.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I mean, fucking come to the school yard, Paul, fucking shove your face in the dirt, steal your lunch money. We'll go push you down the stairs. All right, so we got one more in us. In this one, we're going to stay in 1994, but we're going to jump to the future to the year 2040. So, which is fun because most of the time when you look back at old things, And it's like, the year is 2002 or like 2010.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And it's like, this time's already passed by and it's a little embarrassing. Because like, oh, wow, none of that really cool stuff happened. So we still got hopes because we're going to Phantom 2040. Dylan, are you familiar with the character of The Phantom? I'm familiar with the show because I used to watch it when I was a kid. Cool. So the Phantom, aka the Ghost of the Jungle, was created in 1936. He is a costumed hero who is operating out of the fictional African country of Bengala.
Starting point is 01:05:31 They call him the ghost who walks and the man who cannot die because the mantle of the phantom is handed down from father to son for generation and generation. He has no powers. He's just a dude in a purple suit with a ring and a gun and it's fun. So Phantom 2040 is obviously the phantom and it is the phantom of the year 2040. And what's just fun about this one is that this was done by some of the same animators behind Aon Flux. So it's going to look real fucking cool. And that's exciting. Not according to Paul on whatever the comic website was.
Starting point is 01:06:09 To be fair, Paul didn't say shit about this one. Right, he probably hasn't seen it either. No. Paul's too busy crying and whining about Teen Titans Go, a show that's pretty much just to be self-referential and funny for kids. He didn't treat the superheroes seriously. No, Corey. The bad show. I bet he hates Marvel Superhero Squad, too.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I bet he hates everything. I bet he does too. I bet he does too. I like how we've just turned into slagging off this guy we've never met. I will never meet. We'll never meet, Paul. He's not coming on the show. He's not coming to the show.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I have no desire to go to Texas. No, we're not going to pay you. You have to come on the show for free. Yeah, and I'm not going to give you. our Skype us either because you'll just be hitting us up
Starting point is 01:06:57 all the time want to talk about WBE and celebrities and entertainment or whatever else I bet he likes AW
Starting point is 01:07:03 I bet he does nerd seems like a type let's get into yeah before we start getting done for sland
Starting point is 01:07:13 or we start docks in this guy I bet that's not even his real name I bet it's not either I bet it's like
Starting point is 01:07:20 Paul his name is Paul his name is Paul Yeah, exactly. Okay, I'm confused. Let's just watch the show. All right, we're going to give you, this is on Comics Kingdom, so just look up Phantom 2040, and we'll go in three, or we'll go at one.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So three, two, one. Okay. Oh, too real, the planet's dying. Very true, though. I mean, in 2040, the planet will be, will be fucked. I mean, will it look like this, though? probably that's that aon flux animation everybody's weird and angular yeah interesting perspectives here gestures jumping off roofs do you think we'll finally get flying cars in 2040 uh no we'll be living
Starting point is 01:08:32 on the grind do you think about all this computer graphic stuff you know i was pretty confident that i had seen this show as a kid i don't remember any of that I don't remember any of this And I feel like I would remember this With a 3D graphics and shit I don't remember it I watched this one as a kid The jungle would come to me
Starting point is 01:09:10 Yeah There you go Upton Sinclair I was thinking about What kind of pizza I should get It's too busy thinking about This guy Surfing
Starting point is 01:09:28 Is this fucking surfing on a hovercraft Machine That would be nice to have Instead of a fine part. I think the music's been pretty good. Yeah. You can kind of still hear that kind of like sort of African influence in it.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yes. So what now what's happening? I guess she's somewhere he does not need to be and that's why there's something trying to kill him now. The animation, like the respectiveness are all very strange. They do a lot of like blow shots. Do you mean?
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah. Like shots from the leg, look it up. Look at up. Like this, underneath shots. They do a lot of these already. We're not even that long end of the show. I mean, like, that's that weird Aon Flux kind of style of animation where everything is like, let's show how weirdly grotesque the human body can be.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Oh, well, they definitely do that. So he has a robot arm. I think he's playing a video game. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, he's just playing a video game. I mean, I'm sure that's going to happen in 2040 for sure. The video game.
Starting point is 01:11:23 She thinks they're super cool. Apple jalapeno squid. I'll tell you it's the future. That's my new password. For those listening to this episode, the password to the Smart Avengers email is not Apple Halapeno Squid. Apple Halapeno Squid. That's not the password to the email account.
Starting point is 01:11:56 No. He's fucking going down on that thing, though. Jesus Christ. I don't want to be that guy. I don't think apple jalapino squid sandwich is good. I don't think it would be a good combination of flavors or textures. Kit Walker, Jr. Son of Kit Walker.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I say you can tell the Phantom was created in the 1930s because the name Kit was being used very frequently. They've got to bring that back, right? So the garbage disintegrates when you rub your hands together? Yeah. It's a good idea. Edible garbage. Yeah. Then maybe the world would be on fire.
Starting point is 01:12:57 That sounds ominous. They parked that very close to the road. Yeah, that's bad, it's bad news. I think the world is coming to an end. No shit. Why do some of the cars fly and some of them will have wheels? Personal preference, perhaps. They're cheaper.
Starting point is 01:13:24 It's weird that the robot butler is wishing you a happy birthday. Look at those future candles, though. amazing. Oh, the cat looks really sick. In jest the airlines. Oh, well, Boilera is a real dick. Oh, the cake fell over. I mean, that's the robot's fault.
Starting point is 01:14:05 The robots shouldn't listen to what the cat has to say. That was the Ghostbusters noise. Like, when they turned the proton pack on, that was the same fucking noise. Yeah. You know, he's the villain because he has a creepy relationship with his cat. Yeah. I like how he's in the color coordinate. He looks like he's wearing the same.
Starting point is 01:14:29 same clothes his mother is. Oh yeah. I know how much you love floor kick. That his cat spit on it. Yeah, it's all yours. My son doesn't love me. Who's this guy? It feels like James Woods.
Starting point is 01:14:52 His face is very stretched. Like James Woods. James Woods, come on the show too. Yeah. We'll fucking push your shit into. I don't know what the fuck James Woods would want to come on the show for, but your best work was done by the
Starting point is 01:15:09 time the 90s rolled around. His best work was Hercules. I'd give him that. I give him that. I fucking love him in Hercules. It's such a... What is up with this guy? Fucking head and torso and then robot
Starting point is 01:15:27 body. Yeah. That's got to be uncomfortable. It can't feel good. No. I don't think I'd like that. So he's just eating a regular apple. He's not even mixing it with jalapinos or squids. You lazy prick.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Just turn the page over yourself, you lazy bass. I feel like the animation in this is way roper than the last one. Again, I feel like that's just the style of the art team. There's some, yeah, there's just some stuff going on. We're like, I don't know about this. Good Lord, I'm looking at the voice actors on this. Margot Kidder, Ron Perlman, Leah Remney, Alan Oppenheimer, Mark Hamill, Debbie Harry, Rob Parson, or Rob Paulson, Paul Williams, geez.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Jesus Christ, oh, he's taking those hits like a champ. Yeah, they just straight up shot him, and he got his water going on. I don't really know. she put a leaf in a ring and just grab handguns this aunt is hardcore this guy's playing it's Nintendo he's apparently reading a book he's like can somebody shut those lasers up
Starting point is 01:17:21 I'm trying to play Pokemon wow could you imagine how he just about dodged those lasers coming at his head like that yeah oh shit right on my heart what the what the fuck voice
Starting point is 01:18:04 What voice is that? What do you mean? The police don't talk like this and you're from? Not just the police, man. Nobody talks like that. Oh, here's a ring and a leaf. I could eat this. It's actually a microchip. Probably is.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Oh, can I hear what happened last night? Fucking sucked, didn't it? Anyway. Sorry, you're on dead. Well, that's a shame. Everybody dies from lasers. Yep, that's just the way it is. Oh, of course Harlan Ellison was a voice actor on this. That
Starting point is 01:19:18 In 2014 That perspective is all fucking weird and wrong This man has nervous energy He's like I know the thing I can help you huh And he just fucking walks away
Starting point is 01:19:39 Give me all the information You have on Ghosts This voice acting cast It was fucking unreal Considering This is a cartoon And it doesn't sign
Starting point is 01:20:03 That good so far The cat's going to eat you Cyberville I like those robots have ties. Let's say you know they're businessmen. Yeah, they got to look official when they're shooting their lasers. That character has
Starting point is 01:20:49 the energy of somebody that was breastfed for too long. Tries to eat it. It's a lot of gibberish. I wonder why they're not listening to you. Now we're all fucked. I think the aunt could have left him a note to go along with the ring. Like, hey, by the way. Well, she didn't know she was going to die.
Starting point is 01:22:06 There were 35 episodes of this, by the way. Hi. I mean obviously connected with somebody how I how gripped are you so far I mean I'm into it it's just because it's very pretty and by the way the whole series is on YouTube
Starting point is 01:22:26 a skull if I put my penis inside it what if I just punch the wall as hard as I fucking can't nope didn't work okay nope it did be funny if it didn't don't know where I got that idea from so his aunt had this ring and she was like like, I'm just not going to do this stuff? No, apparently. Did she know this was here?
Starting point is 01:22:54 She knew it was there. It was kind of implied that, like, she was trying to keep him from having to live this life. Right. Oh, the video game brainwashes you. That's lowest lane. Where did he get this machine from? I mean, it said that he was like,
Starting point is 01:23:32 his whole background was, like, in researching plants and stuff. So I can, I guess like, by him just having that. But then why wouldn't his aunt bring him here if this is all about plants and shit? I don't know. Like you said, apparently being the Phantom sucks,
Starting point is 01:23:50 and she was trying to keep him from having to do it. And it's you. Bitch. Okay. All right. Fair enough. How much does it pay? Did you see the the 90s movie that Billy Seine did for this for the Phantom?
Starting point is 01:24:34 I don't think so. There's this weird period of time where they were just making movies of like this like the 1930s and 40s characters like the shadow and the phantom and like rocketeer although rocketeer was invented in the 80s but yeah yeah yeah i just remember i remember seeing uh billy zane in this so this is one of those and then a white man set them free kind of moments sure looks like it's a product of the time because it was like the 1930s where like people were really starting to explore africa and They were like, oh, yes, yes, this man who went to Africa, and they accepted him as one of their own and taught him by the ways.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Oh, they explored Africa way before the 1930s. He was actually quite better than they were at all of their ways. And he had a sword for some reason. There was something missing for my life. It was a blue body suit. Now I get to have a sword. I get to have a gun. I get to have a sword.
Starting point is 01:25:41 It is interesting that in this technological advanced age, where everything is robots and stuff, well that's Ron Perlman by the way the way that he like fights him is that he doesn't have any powers he just kind of has a sword and is very old school and that's a very interesting choice it's a juxtaposition especially for the hero where you
Starting point is 01:26:05 kind of like in contrast to the last show we watched where all the heroes are really cool and had interesting powers and shit this guy's like I just wear a mask and purple this must be this be a mistake. I can't be the Phantom. He says wearing the Phantom's costume. Yeah. How did this happen? How did you dress me up
Starting point is 01:26:23 like this? He's going to have, he's going to have gadgets and whatnot. Almost invisible. Stop doing that. Why? I don't want to. You have to take the mask off yourself. Why? Yeah. Why is the rest of it?
Starting point is 01:27:16 Yeah. But you make the rest of the mask out of the rest of that. Right. Why? What the fuck? Blackmail. She hung up on them before she finish your sentence. Because what they heard was Bobby...
Starting point is 01:27:37 Uh-oh. Oh, his leg is fuck. I got to save them. By turning invisible? There's your commentary. Your social commentary. Not these days. I won't put the mask on.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I want to watch my friends guy on television. Who's filming them? That guy was almost invisible. Nope. Should have waited until I was almost invisible. Oh, man. I can't believe you saw you once you took your invisibility. Again, I do kind of appreciate the fact that they kind of have the tribal-esque music playing still. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Shoot the fire with fire. Yeah, so he doesn't know how to use any of the shit. And he thought, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to fire this gun on my friend and see what happens. Just my Chinese finger trap rope. Goodbye! I'm here to save you. Let me kiss you?
Starting point is 01:29:13 Spider-Man. Now he's strong enough to lift up two people effortlessly. Yes. Now, is he saying that over and over again, or are they just repeating the audio? It sounds like he must be saying that different volumes. That looks good. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah, that one didn't win you over as much as the other one did, did it. No, I like the music. I like some of the animation. I thought it felt like they had a lot of stuff to try and fit in to that episode. And I don't know if they were able to accurately do it. Yeah. You know, they had a lot of stuff. stuff going on there.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Yeah, I like the second one the best. Swat cats. Yeah, Swat Cats. Samurai Pizza Swat Cats. Yes. It was my favorite one so far. But that one wasn't bad. It's just, it's, you know, interestingly, Pist. Yeah, I mean, of the three, it definitely felt like it was the one trying to like
Starting point is 01:30:59 send out a message. Because the whole thing like, oh yeah, people are just caught up in these games and nobody cares anymore about one another and pollution and the environment's dying. It's a dystopian setting and they're really laying it in. They had some sort of message, but I'm not totally sure what that message was because there was a lot going on, you know? Yeah. And again, with more time, they could probably sort of die, but I don't know. I felt like, yeah, like there was a lot, lot going on. that one. It was a lot going on.
Starting point is 01:31:36 And like, the voice acting cast was definitely bigger production. I mean, yeah, Bart, the villain. When you read the list out, it sounded impressive. But when we watched the show, none of the voices really jumped out as being like spectacularly good. I would say there was a couple that.
Starting point is 01:31:54 It was like, a bit ropey. Can you, do you think it was a situation of like, um, it's 1994. Some of these people are actors who have been in, like, major productions, and, like, this is just a paycheck. Do you think it's a situation like that? Because I remember very famously, there's, like, a video game that got Peter Dinklage, like, still hot from Game of Thrones to do a voice acting piece for it. And, like, he completely phoned it into a degree that they, like, re-recorded it with somebody else and re-released it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:31 You know, there could definitely be an. element of that. I could buy it. Because like I said, Ron Perlman was in there somewhere, and I knew which character he was playing, but it didn't sound like Ron Perlman. No, none of them sounded like any anybody we'd recognize.
Starting point is 01:32:46 I mean, it didn't, like, some of them didn't really sound like they were putting their whole heart in it either. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that one. Well, the joy of the joy of this is that there are so many cartoons that were made from comic books and stuff
Starting point is 01:33:11 especially during the 90s because everybody was trying to catch up with Fox and X-Men that like there's there was we were going to watch Iron Man until Dylan pointed out that maybe John would want to be here for that one so that's why I went with the three that I did I don't feel like John would have any strong feelings on Wildcats or or Phantom 2040 in particular but I know he wouldn't give a shit
Starting point is 01:33:35 if we watched Swamp thing and I just had to put Dylan through that. Yeah, I feel like in retrospect, it's unfair that we sat through that and John didn't. Like he, like, as if he got away unpunished. And I'm like, you're part of the group too. If we had to sit through that shit, you got to sit through that shit. That's only fair. I mean, here's the thing. I think at some point we need to have like, oh boy, all right, we need to have some sort of a wager.
Starting point is 01:34:01 some sort we need to have some sort of a wager or some sort of a game and like the punishment is that we have to watch the other four episodes of Swamping I don't I will never play that game Dylan does not like to gamble I love to gamble not about I love I love gambling but I did no fuck away I'm sitting there out again well you wouldn't be sitting through it again you'd be sitting through the remaining four episodes I couldn't, I couldn't stomach it. I could barely stomach the first one. You know, honestly, if we were gambling for something else, but the idea that I could lose and have that punishment thrust upon me is just, it's just not for me. Yeah. I can't do it again. No.
Starting point is 01:34:57 That fucking centipede thing. See the bug thing? I'll never get that out of my head. No, I mean, so like, we got, what will we got out of that? These are the lessons learned. Swamp thing, it seems to be a case of, yeah, no matter how much you mutate your incompetent lackeys, they will continue to be incompetent, but they'll just be uglier at it. Yes. And Wildcats, it's a situation of, you know, don't let somebody put.
Starting point is 01:35:32 a sticker on your forehead that looks a little green man jump inside your skull that's bad don't do that i mean i feel like that's good advice for anybody that's that's standard advice don't let strangers put stickers on your foreheads because you'll never going to know when a little green guy is going to try to jump in there yeah i mean if somebody's putting a sticker on your face they probably have a little emotive for it yeah and they're also invading your personal space because you're letting somebody that close there's no telling what they're going to do next it's not cool just stay away from people like that and from phantom 2040 we learned that the earth is dying and that our cult is being erased by our dependence on technology and that we are no longer moving forward
Starting point is 01:36:09 as a society. Well, we already knew that. Yeah, I mean, there's only like, what's 2024 now. So what, that's like 16 more years before we hit? Yeah. Before we hit this setting. Yeah. So in 16 years, when Dylan and I are both like...
Starting point is 01:36:25 17. You'll be 17? All right. I'll probably be in my 50s because I forgot you have that Benjamin Button syndrome where you're going backwards. Yeah, it hurts. It's way more painful than it looks in the film. He didn't look like he was great in the film, but... No.
Starting point is 01:36:40 So because you're Benjamin buttoning and I'm going backwards, or you're going backwards, I'm going forwards. John's just the same. He's going to be the same age no matter what. He's a vampire. He doesn't... He is a lovecraftian creature of a Eldridge quality. That's why he'll be fine when the submarine explodes. Yeah, he'll just shake it off, you know. He'll just come right back and go, that was fun. Once again, I was so tempted to hear his voice.
Starting point is 01:37:07 You can do it. You can spice it in a meal. I don't want to. I feel like you'll be mad at me if I do it. I don't think John ever gets mad at anything. But we'll have to find out one day. And that's how we're going to trick him in watching the four remaining episodes of Swamping. I feel like if he listens to the show, he's going to not watch any of it. Do you think John's going to listen to the show?
Starting point is 01:37:27 Somebody has to listen to it. That's true. Speaking of listening to the show. we've been the Smart Avengers. Check us out on Spotify. If you watch this on YouTube or YouTube, if you listen to this on Spotify, I also have a podcast called the
Starting point is 01:37:43 Large Old Cup, where I just kind of talk about stuff as it happens. Dylan has a YouTube channel where he's going to be playing Pickman at this point. We should be a couple episodes of Pikmin in, right? Yeah, Pigman. Yeah, I guess. All right. That's Exploity Place.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Yes, on YouTube. John's on Letterbox. You can find him under the big John Bowsky, I believe is his screen name. I think. Yeah, if you look that up on Letterbox and it's not him, don't follow that person. We're not letting that person have that sweet Smart Avengers bump. Instead, come back here and let us know that we failed and we will course correct. We didn't fail.
Starting point is 01:38:24 We just were slightly mistaken. We didn't fail. We just didn't get it right. Yes. All right, everybody. Dylan, you have any closing remarks on Swamp Thing or Wildcats or Phantom 2040?
Starting point is 01:38:37 Yeah, fuck that guy that wrote that list. Yeah, seriously. Fuck you, Paul. Yeah. What's your real name? Yeah, Paul. Anyway. Yep. We'll see you guys later. All I got to say with that.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Goodbye. Goodbye. That's my John. Oh.

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