The Smark Avengers - Vol 3, Ep 42: The Smark Avengers Kill Wolverine

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

He's the best he is at what he does and that is... plot armor? Wolverine aka Logan aka James Howlett has been a huge fixture in the world of comic books since his introduction as a mutant crazy enough... to go one on one with the Incredible Hulk. Since then he's been a member of and lead multiple variations of the X-Men and X-Force and even served time as an Avenger. So obviously he needs to be knocked down a peg or two. How do you kill a man who has been incinerated by a nuclear bomb? Join the Smark Avengers as Corey, Dylan, and Jon kill Wolverine!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 that's it boy episode 50 things really started going down hell you know this episode 42 really on my whenever I've been doing the for some reason whenever I'm doing the
Starting point is 00:00:16 the graphics I see of them as numbers yeah oh yeah and the last one I did was number 50 I think yeah I think you're counting the first iteration that we that we abandoned maybe
Starting point is 00:00:30 So this is volume 3. I think we only did eight episodes in volume 2. So that would mathematically make sense that this would be 50 in that regard. Let me see. What's our legacy number? That's our legacy number, yeah. It's 50. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Yeah, I would have. Yeah, I started, I think, from number one is the Beast episode. So I have started from the very beginning. Yep, this is our legacy number. So we're going to re-release this with that number, but then the real number below it. Yeah, the real number is, this is 52, because the last one I did was 51. Okay. This is episode 52.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Well, there we go. Oh, that's right, because, so there are nine episodes in volume two, and the one that you have, we lost the audio for, so it never got released. So there's one thumbnail you have that is not associated in the video. There is one that we never released, right? Was it the X-Men one? Yeah, yeah, because we lost, the footage was real bad, or not the footage, the audio was really, terrible. Not the content of the audio. No, no. I thought we killed it, but no. No, the content was amazing, but you just couldn't hear it. I was like really roboty halfway through it. Yeah, that's happened
Starting point is 00:01:48 us a couple of times. Yep. Where we just get turned into robots midway through the recording. that's what you get whenever you elect Dr. Robotnik is your president Bob. Well, I was going to say I thought it was like the techno virus from the future in X-Men. That would have been a better tie-in. Yeah, we would have had warlock.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I went straight to Dr. Robotnik. This is where my heads out all the time. I think about it a lot. That's fair. Is it? Well, speaking Well, go on. Is it?
Starting point is 00:02:23 I was going to say, like, speaking of characters that need to be killed off in Dr. Robotnik and capturing all those little woodland creatures. You want to kill Dr. Obotnick? Why would you not? He keeps abducting the little forest animals and putting it inside of machines. Yeah, but he's really doing it for their own good.
Starting point is 00:02:42 He's keeping them safe inside the robot. He's like giving them their own robot suit of armor. Yeah, they're way cooler in a suit of armor than they are and just like hopping about or whatever. Yeah. Would you love a big... you guys watch the robot suit of armor you know did you guys watch the sonic the hedgehog movies with jim carry as dr robotnik i saw the first one i haven't seen the second one his his little assistant in him are a very popular uh gay pairing in fan fiction yeah they have like they have like a ship name and everything well that's the internet for you that's true that is absolutely true uh well hello everybody it's very weird place
Starting point is 00:03:26 that's where that's where we are currently we're existing the internet hi we're inside your house do you think that there's fan fiction of us if not there will be soon oh that's the scariest thought of it in the world
Starting point is 00:03:43 oh I don't like it I don't like it let this bit out don't give anybody any ideas I thought to spit out Well, hello everybody. Welcome to the Smart Avengers. My name is Corey and with me are Dylan and John. Hey, guys, how it's going? Hi. Going good. Good. So today is going to be a return to form for us. This is I think the third time we're doing this. We're going to kill a character today. Are you excited? I love killing. Oh, yes. There's an inflection in that. Oh, we've done it before.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We'll do it again. We can't be stopped. Oh, we can't be stopped. Let us out our cages and we'll stack the bodies to the sky. If we can kill the Flash, we can kill anybody. Yep. So very first episode, we kill Aquaman, and that's where we discovered and learned about Aquaman's magic water hand. And in the second episode, we killed the Flash, and that's how we learned that the
Starting point is 00:04:56 Flash can make himself remember things by sending his brain into the past. So, you know, we learned a lot. You can make himself remember things by setting his brain. I can make myself remember things. And I don't have to do that at all. See, I picked that one intentionally because I had a feeling you'd have something to say about it. I think we had a lot to say about almost all of the stuff the Flash can supposedly do. Yeah, it was a lot. It turns out when you can master the speed force, you basically become a
Starting point is 00:05:31 god. Today, though, we have a character who is also a bit of a god. The first two episodes we did were DC, we're jumping over into the world of Marvel, because the smart Avengers are going to do what Sabreto and Magneto and Cyber and the Sentinels, all of them failed to do, we're going to kill Wolverine. Yes. I'm straight. So Wolverine is a notoriously very hard character to kill. And so before, you know, Dylan and John discuss their plans of killing Wolverine, we're going to do just a little bit of information about him. I'm not going to go into the Wolverine origin. Everybody knows it, right?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yep. Sure. Yep. So we'll just kind of, you know, discuss very, very briefly. James Howlett is a guy who. was like in 1910 or even before 1910 like almost civil war depending on some stories is a kid that learns he has the ability to heal himself and also has bone claws for whatever reason and over time he discovers that apparently he is kind of like a a weird Benjamin button kind of deal where he gets to a certain age and just stops so I don't know if that implies that Wolverine was like a child for a very long time. It just very slowly graduated to adulthood.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Or if he aged normally from a childhood to adulthood and then just stopped. I don't know. Because he's been a grown adult man for like 100 years. I think it's just more of a case of his aging slowing down. Because like some of the future stories, he does get older. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, actually, John, that, because the mutant.
Starting point is 00:07:24 powers don't trigger until you're like 13, right? Mm-hmm. So it makes sense. Normal childhood, hit 13, start aging slower. Yeah. Yeah, we already solved one mystery. Isn't that great? Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yep. So anyway, Wolverine kind of floats through life, doing what he does best, violence. And he takes part in World War I, World War II, goes to Korea, goes to Vietnam, Basically, he goes anywhere and everywhere you can go before he gets the interest of a shady government organization that, because of his unique healing abilities, they subject him to the Weapon X program. John, real quick, can you summarize what Weapon X did to Wolverine? So basically, they fucked with his memories. so he for years wasn't sure like what was real and what was just implanted by Weapon X. But more crucially, they bonded his skeleton with adamantium,
Starting point is 00:08:36 one of the hardest metals in the Marvel universe. And so that meant his bone claws got turned into adamantium claws, which were far more deadly. And so Wolverine ends up escaping Weapon X. hangs out in the Canadian wilderness before running into some superheroes that we later be a part of Alpha Flight. And he ends up working for the Canadian government in Department H. It's where he gets the secret identity Wolverine. And Dylan, what was Wolverine's first big fight in Marvel, documented fight?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Was it the Hulk? That was the first appearance of Wolverine fighting the Hulk. the Incredible Hulkstone series. And Wendigo. And Windigo. Yeah. And after that period of time, Professor Charles Xavier finds him and recruits him into the X-Men.
Starting point is 00:09:38 There's a lot of X-Men history to get through, so we'll kind of hit the high points. John, what are some of the big moments of Wolverine's tenure in the X-Men? Oh, geez. I guess, like, his like lusting after Gene Gray and causing
Starting point is 00:09:58 some of the the issues between her and Cyclops was like a major running storyline for a long time but then he's he was just he was all over the place really he was like a big part of the storyline where Magneto
Starting point is 00:10:17 you know brings back Asteroid M and the X-Men go up to try and stop him. And then Magneto rips the adamantium from his body. And Wolverine briefly turns feral. And then sort of like for a couple of years, his nose was upturned and he had like,
Starting point is 00:10:39 I don't know, like he basically started mutating into a bit of a like wolf-like character. And then suddenly got normal and then died and then came back to life. And then, yeah, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. And Dylan, how many teams has, what are the teams that Wolverine has been a member of over the years? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Well, he was, a member of the X-Men. He was a member of, I think it was X-Force. Mm-hmm. He was in the Avengers. What was he in the proper Avengers? I think he was in the proper Avengers. Yeah, yeah. He was probably in some sort of spin-off of the Avengers.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Like the cool Avengers or whatever. You know. What are we up to, you know, like four, five? Yep. That's it. Fair enough. I mean, those are the big ones for sure. There's probably a shit ton of other ones.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Oh, yeah. I'm looking at a list of them. They're wild. Go on. So he's considered a member of 54 different teams, according to Comic Vine. That was pretty close. You hit the major ones. But real quick, Alpha Flight, the Assassins Guild, Avengers, the Avengers Unity Squad, the Banner Avengers, Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, the Central Intelligence Agency, Clan Akaba, the Confederacy of Dunces.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm going to ask you I'm going to question the how accurate this list is. The cosmic champions, the dawn of the white light, the defenders, Department K,
Starting point is 00:12:40 Fantastic Four, the hard seven. What? It says, The hard seven, a team assembled by Wolverine to help defeat Romulus. Who are the other six?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Okay, let me open it up. We open up the tab. This is important. All right, in the hard seven were Wolverine, obviously. The answer, I don't know who that is, Scar, Hulk's kid, the Silver Samurai, the Hulk, Deadpool, his son, Dachan, and, And an old favorite of our show, Ruby Thursday. Huh. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So that was the team, the Hard Seven. That's strange. None of us have heard of this. Right. No, I've heard of it. I just didn't know the name. Oh, okay. Well, now you know.
Starting point is 00:13:44 How could you forget the name? Right. Wow. Yeah. Who wrote that? Who wrote that? Who wrote the Heart Seven? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I don't want to get too critical. I don't think that's a good name. I thought you said who wrote that. Who rode the Heart 7? Listen, who amongst us hasn't written the Heart 7? At one point or another, you know? First appearance, Wolverine Origins number 41, 7 the Hard Way, Part 1, written by Daniel Way. Yeah, makes sense.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Makes sense. Okay. Gold Danny Way. Yeah. We know what he's like. We also have the Herald's, the Horseman of the Apocalypse, the Howling Commandoes, Hydra, the Gene Gray Academy, Landau Luckman and Lake, which is apparently an international holding company,
Starting point is 00:14:44 which oversees and manages a number of subsidiary companies, including a law firm which shares the name. LLL is a front for a private espionage contractor, which is controlled by a cabal seeking to expediate the apocalypse. Marvel Warwolves Marvel Zombies Masters of Evil
Starting point is 00:15:05 The Midnight Suns The New Avengers The New Defenders The New Fantastic Four The Outlaw Avengers The Red Guard Shield Savage Avengers
Starting point is 00:15:19 Secret Defenders Superhero Squad Sword Bearers of Crocoa Team X The Black Legion the hand, the Lupine, the marvels, the pack, the resistance, the Vylox, the time-plucked Titans, weapon plus, weapon X, weapon X-Men, the Wolverine squad, X-Force, X-Men, X-Men, X-Men 299, Extreme Sanctions Executive, and Zambioites.
Starting point is 00:15:57 He sure does like a team. Oh, my God. Some of them are not good. You're not a fan of the time plucked Titans, the Wolverines one. It's a team entirely comprised of Wolverines. I was going to make that joke. And I thought, no, that's stupid. They wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Then they fucking did it. God damn. Yeah, it's like a zombie Wolverine, Albert the Cyborg Wolverine, Wolverine from his weapon X days, Wolverine from days of future past. the patch Wolverine and also Wolverine is a small child with bone claws A kid Wolverine
Starting point is 00:16:40 Baby Wolverine Baby Wolverine Baby Wolverine So we know about Wolverine is that he's well connected He's got a lot of friends Some of them are himself Some of them are himself Would you like to know
Starting point is 00:16:54 His other aliases aside from James Howlett Logan and Wolverine we said a couple earlier right patch is one of them yeah yes so patch is on the list weapon X is on the list yeah here's some you may not know agent 10 the black dragon brother Xavier captain captain Canada captain captain Captain Terror Death Emilio Gara
Starting point is 00:17:28 Experiment X Fist of Legend Hooded Man Jim Logan John Logan Mutate number 9601 Peter Richards Weapon X
Starting point is 00:17:42 Wolverine Buzz Peter Richards Peter Richards and Revolto the Clown Why are you doing this to me So, yes, as you know, there has been a lot of Wolverine out there. I don't know if we were recording at the time, but he's appeared in 16,388 issues in Marvel Comics.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I still need to get more information on Revolta the Klein. We need to... Somebody write into the show and tell us what the fuck that's about it. Well, and how many movies has he been in John? Oh, geez. must be about 8 or 9 I would say I think he might be up to 10
Starting point is 00:18:28 He was in the original trilogy Then he was in two of Three of his own solo movies Then he was in The first Three Of the like Prequel movies
Starting point is 00:18:47 So that would be nine there And then Deadpool Wolverine 10, yeah. So 10 Wolverine movie appearances all by Hugh Jackman. Mm-hmm. Not bad. Spanning almost 25 years. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So, Dylan, Dylan, real quick, Revalto the Clown is a persona that Wolverine adopted in the Wolverine in the X-Men series by Jason Aaron, where a, an evil
Starting point is 00:19:19 circus leader, who I believe is Maximilian von Kotson-Logben kidnapped several members of the faculty and brainwashed them into believing they were members of his circus. He kidnapped and brainwashed Wolverine. Yep. Some fucking random circus guy? Apparently.
Starting point is 00:19:44 How easy is it to kidnap Wolverine? This is it what we should have got earlier. John, it's entirely easy to get it. To kidnap and brimwash One of the most deadly Mutants In the entire X-Men world So you can get him
Starting point is 00:20:02 You can get him, but once you have him How are you going to kill him? I guess this is the question that we've now figured out Well, I will brimwash him Into killing himself Done Why didn't they just do that? What's the point of brainwashing him?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Just kill him I mean, maybe it's one of those like, oh, he'd be better served as an ally than an enemy. Or he's more good to us alive than dead. Because that has never, ever, ever backfire on anybody who's kidnapped and brainwatched Wolverine. Yeah, right? Again, one of the most vindictive and vengeful mutants that there is. I'll kidnap him and breakwashed him and it'll 100% work and he won't do anything about it. Wolverine, gentle Wolverine, I'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I'm going to hit you with this real quick. These are, before we get into what you think can kill Wolverine, I'm going to tell you things that have in canon, things that have happened to him that he survived. So maybe this will dissuade you thinking how easy it is to kill him. This is a list from comic book resources or cBR.com. Number 16, a nuclear explosion. That's not a good start. Nuclear explosion isn't going to kill him. I'm like, uh-oh, some of my suggestions might not hold up.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Number 15, crucifixion. Well, that's anybody can survive that. Jesus survived it. Yeah, he did. He came back alive. Three days later. Yeah. Well, how long do you take Wolverine to come back?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Probably quicker than that. Wow. All right. Number four. The Weapon X process, which John already discussed. Number 13, eaten by a cannibal. What? He was eaten by the Hulk in Old Man Logan.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And then, well, I mean... Oh, no. John, this is a different cannibal. What? A different cannibal. He got eaten twice. Oh, geez. Two people thought it would be going to eat a wolf race. This was an evil sorcerer named Mo Vace is a sorcerer from the French Indian War of the 1700s who had been kept frozen in prison beneath a facility called The Cage, a supervillain prison for hundreds of years. The guards drugged Wolverine and locked him in the room with Mo Vase, who revealed that his powers came from cannibalism.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Mose took advantage of the chants to eat chunks out of Wolverine's body, savoring every mutant morsel. With his mystical powers restored, he teleported out the prison and escaped. Why did they keep him frozen in the prison? I mean, he was a cannibalistic sorcerer. Right, but wouldn't they just put him in prison and let him die? I don't know. Maybe his magic couldn't be controlled.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Well, it was because he couldn't eat anybody. Yeah. So he would have just died. Right? I think you're right We gotta keep this guy alive for like 300 years Why? I don't know
Starting point is 00:23:27 What the fuck? Somebody left a note It just said me at you Yeah, don't kill this guy yet We need them to eat Wolverine in 300 years I'm like oh okay yeah fair enough It was a time capsule situation Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:39 In the year 2021 Please unbury Yeah All right number 12 Crushed under a steamroller Oh, yeah. We did talk about that one, didn't we? I think it was the Punisher, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:23:54 It was the Punisher. The Punisher shot him in the face, and then shot him in the testicles a bunch. And as they grew back, he got a steamroller and ran over Wolverine and parked it on top of his head. And then just went home. Yep, then this was his home.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Went about his day. Yeah, his wife's like, what did you do today? At work, he's like, well, shot Wolverine the deck and then drove a steamroller over him. She's like, that's nice. I mean, his wife is famously pretty dead. He could get another wife, John.
Starting point is 00:24:34 He can remarry. Enough time asked. He's an eligible bachelor. Who wouldn't want to go out with a man like that? He shoots Wolverine the dick. You know what you mean? I'm sure he's very, very... With the machine gun multiple times.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah, I'm sure he's very in demand With all the ladies of the Marvel universe You know Yep Number 11 His hand was cut off I'm replaced with a magic hand Well, it was replaced with a metal sheath
Starting point is 00:25:05 This is an age of apocalypse Why is number 11 he lost his hand Number 60 was nuclear bomb Fucking nuclear explosion Listen I don't know how CBR organizes their shit But it doesn't make any sense This is not the first time They've been under scrutiny from us
Starting point is 00:25:20 No, no Number 10 Infected with nanobots and vampirism At the same time? Yeah, apparently That's how I got the vampirism That's tough John, number nine
Starting point is 00:25:34 eaten by the Hulk So cannibalism number two There you go Number 8 Struck by Thor's lightning Number seven Blown up body and soul What?
Starting point is 00:25:51 What? his soul got blown up yeah apparently in Wolverine number 57 Logan was attacked by a soldier in adamantium armor the shoulder shoved a bomb into his mouth and blew Wolverine up
Starting point is 00:26:06 while everyone expected Wolverine to just heal and go back to normal he didn't his body healed but left him brain dead shield called in Dr. Strange who discovered Wolverine had become a body without a soul it turned out that during World War I Wolverine fought the angel of death and won from then on
Starting point is 00:26:22 when Wolverine came close to dying, he fought Asriel again in purgatory and returned to life. But when the clan of ninjas known as the hand resurrected and brainwashed him, Wolverine's soul was damaged. They already heal, Wolverine made a deal with Asriel
Starting point is 00:26:34 to fix it in exchange for staying dead the next time. This led to the death of Wolverine storyline where Logan finally met his maker. But it all started with a bomb that blew out his soul. So the hand brainwashed him as well. Yep. Because what we've discovered
Starting point is 00:26:49 is apparently very easy to kidnap and brainwash him. We need to keep a record of how many times he's been brainwashed because I know there's more. Number six, burn to the bone. Okay. Is that from an airplane crash? No, this is fighting Nitro. Yeah. This is fighting Nitro in the Civil War storyline. Nitro's explosion was so massive it consumed Wolverine and fire hot enough to burn all the flesh off his bones. Wolverine was left as nothing but an adamantium skeleton and an inferno. In grim detail, Wolverine's thoughts transcribed what was like to be killed to have his flesh and nervous system grow back slowly and finally his skin restored.
Starting point is 00:27:31 A graphic reminder of how his healing factor can both be a blessing and a curse. All right, so that one burned down to just the atomaneum skeleton. Number five, poisoned. Fair enough. Number four, reduced to a single cell. What? That doesn't make any sense. In 1987's Uncanny X-Men Annual Number 11, the X-Men encountered Horde, an alien mutant who wanted to be the next Thanos and dominate the universe. With incredible powers, Horde brushed off the X-Men's combined attacks and forced them to travel to another world to steal the crystal of ultimate vision from its fortress.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Wolverine, the X-Men fought their way through the fortress, but they fell one by one until only Wolverine was left. Before he reached the crystal, Horde impaled him on a javelin and ripped Wolverine's heart out of his chest, kill him instantly. But a drop of Wolverine's blood landed on the crystal, which gave him not just the power to regenerate his entire body, but ultimate cosmic power. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Okay. Number three, ripped in half. I mean, if he can survive with just one atom, he can survive the gift and half. Number two. Who ripped him in half? this was the ultimate verse I believe
Starting point is 00:28:56 this is ultimate Hulk okay reduced to a severed head what happened to the rest of his body wait wait how did they cut his head off Wolverine and the ultimate Wolverine versus Hulk issue number five Wolverine found
Starting point is 00:29:12 the Hulk at the top of a mountain threatening to eat the severed legs to keep him from sticking them back on before the Hulk could eat his pins however Betty Ross landed on the mountain in the form of She-Hulk. Turns out she had taken an experimental super-soldierism that turned her into a female version of the Hulk.
Starting point is 00:29:28 She was sent as plan B in case Wolverine failed to kill the Hulk. While She-Hulk and the Hulk fought, Wolverine was left to watch, being only half the man he used to be. Logan couldn't stop the government from dropping a nuclear bomb on the site in a last it effort to kill the Hulk. Of course, Wolverine managed to survive the nuke, but Nick Fury didn't let him off as easily as in Venom number nine. This time Wolverine woke up to find himself a head in a tray.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Fury had cut off his head and kept his body separated while he was being interrogated. Theorizing his mutant power wasn't necessarily a healing factor per se, but just that he could survive anything. This would later prove it to be untrue for Ultimate Wolverine. But his neck is made out of adamantium? I don't know if he has the adamantium. How he just cut off his head? I don't know if he... I mean, is this, this is Ultimate Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Does he have an animantium skeleton, John? I believe so. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he does. It's a big part of Wolverine. I don't see why they would cut that bit out. Hmm. You know? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Says his entire skeleton was created in adamantium. And Nick Fury just cut it off one day. Don't worry about it. Easy. I got a really big saw. You know. And of course, number one is the, most iconic of these incidents, X-Men number 25 from 1993,
Starting point is 00:31:02 when Wolverine finally pissed off Magneto to the point that Magneto just took all the Adamant team out of his body. Yeah, good times. And then Nick Fury cut his head off. It's a perfect time to do it. Yeah, I feel like that one, that one moment is a lot more iconic than some of the other. ones on that list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Mm-hmm. It is brutal to look out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm glad to to hear, though, my way of killing Wolverine didn't pop up in that list. Yeah, I don't think any of mine came up. So
Starting point is 00:31:45 that's got to be encouraging. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right, guys. That is some of his, uh, I mean, well, Do you want to hear his powers and abilities, according to Comic Fine? We should do. I mean, we spent 50 minutes list in the Flash's powers.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. Well, this time we do not have to worry about the multiple Wolverines. We are just focused on James Howlett. So we are not going to be trying to kill Laura Kenny or Dacken or anyone else who's ever held the mantle of Wolverine. Okay. So these are Wolverines' powers and abilities. Agility, animal control. He can control birds.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Well known, one of Wolverine's most well-known traits is he can control birds. Berser strength, claws, enhanced mutation, escape artist, feral, healing, immortal, metal implants, involuntability, leadership, longevity, longevity, wool. Stamina, stealth, superhearing, super sight, super smell, super strength, swordsmanship, tracking, unarmed combat, and weapon master. The use of the word immortal in that list makes me think that we might have a bit of a job on our hands here. You know, this could be tricky. Sounds like a challenge. Yeah. Well, see, I always took immortal to me the idea. idea of like, um, just kind of like not being able to die of old age, so to speak. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Because when the got, like, the Asgardians are considered immortal, right? But like, they could still be killed. Yeah. We'll do that next episode. We'll kill them next episode. Yeah. We're going to Oklahoma to take care of those asgardians. I don't want to go to Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Are they still, are they still in Oklahoma? The gods? No, I believe there's like a new Asgard now and Thor's the king of it. So, yeah. Fair enough. All right. Well, you have heard about Wolverine's powers. You've heard about the things that have tried to kill him but failed.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You have heard about some of his enemies. You have heard a brief rundown of his history and the things he's done and who he's done them with. So now all there's left to do is to. kill him. Who would I like to go first? Do you want me to go first? Because I feel like I have a lot of short ways to do it. I think John has come up with one big grand scheme.
Starting point is 00:34:43 So maybe he should save the best to last. Okay. Yeah. Because I have a couple of URA quick ones so we can pretty easily dissect. Okay, go for it. You know what you mean? Once I start reading some of these, you were like, some of them may be easily debunked.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But like I said, some of these, I don't think we didn't hear them on the list. I don't remember them being in the comics. So these could be perfectly fine ways to kill Wolverine. We don't know. So let me, let me, let me say a couple of these. What about if you trapped him underwater for a long time? Like, like, like, like three years. This is why I should have gone through.
Starting point is 00:35:28 first. Why? This is my whole plan. That really? Yeah. Oh, dude, I have like seven other ones. Oh, dude. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:35:43 That's really funny because I only came up, that was the last one I came up with. Like 20 minutes before we started the show. Do you want to cut that bit out? No, we're going to keep it in. Okay. I said he could be allergic to the bees. Because some people are allergic to bees.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And so nobody's ever tried. Just stinging him, right? I mean, it killed McCauley Colkin, so. Exactly. And if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for World Free. Good enough for Mac. Exactly. Speedball, because I'm pretty sure that's what,
Starting point is 00:36:26 kill Chris Farley and John Belushi. So. Drugs. It's really deadly. You know what you mean? I did write drugs as well, but I was very specific with the speedball. Because, you know, that one's pretend like heroin kills a lot of people as well, you know. Nobody's thought about getting more addicted to heroin.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Something to think about. That's why you need the crossover of DC so we can get Green Arrow's old sidekick to help him out with that. Yeah. Well, there's, I'm sure there's heroin. urban addicts in the Marvel universe somewhere you know
Starting point is 00:37:01 it's not enough comics but but when we start writing for Marvel you know things are going to change I said you could drop him into a big vat of acid so the acid like melts all his bones
Starting point is 00:37:18 melts everything I assume there's you could just write that there's an acid that could dissolve out of amount to him and then just like put him into it. But even if he didn't, right? If he just dissolve all this flash and shit, like he's just, he's still dead. Do you mean?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah. This time there's no, not even one atom of flesh left. It's all, I mean, if it's just metal, then he's like none of it's him anymore, right? So like he would be dead. I think that would kind of as being dead. Obviously the comic writers are sticklers for. atoms they're like no he's still part of him still technically alive you know but i think dropping him in a big bad of acid would do it like if it's really strong acid do you know like the really good
Starting point is 00:38:09 acid so i guess the problem with that like i and i think the problem with that would be we've already heard he's been reduced to a skeleton yeah adamantium is like unbreakable so but that's he would still be like an acid covered metal skeleton while he regrows that's why i I don't understand. Like, if he's just a skeleton, then you're like, well, these... Well, the brain is inside the skull, right? But how does the brain regenerate the body? Because the brain is still conscious, I suppose. It's like that eight seconds after decapitation, or like that whole story of like, oh, yeah, you can blink your eyes while you're
Starting point is 00:38:48 decapitated. I think that's just how your muscles are real, relaxing, or acting at that point. Right, but there would be no muscles because the acid would have burned them. Yeah, they were going to be growing back because of the brain. I don't. I know healing factor. Kick it on, baby. I don't accept this. I should have stopped and went through all the other ones to see if you had any way to dispute any of those.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I thought that's why you were speed running through it to keep me for doing that. Do you have an objection to bees? Well, I mean, the whole healing factor thing, right? It's why he can, like, drink a bunch of whiskey and smoke a bunch of cigars and not have any ill effect. his body is repairing it almost immediately. Yeah, but like, if he's really allergic to bees, though. Do you mean? Like, real bad.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Like a lot of bees. Yeah, it's like swarm. Yeah. Is he, well, yeah, exactly. Has he ever fought swarm? I don't think so. No, I can recall. No.
Starting point is 00:39:50 So. Swarm. Do you know what you mean? Is there a reason why swarming Wolverine haven't fought each other? I think so. It's because Wolverine is definitely afraid of him. Somebody has put the question up. This is from the comic book resources message board, October 23rd, 2019 by poster Michael C., aka the Man of Iron. He just posted Swarm versus Wolverine and then two people commented after with their opinions.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Would you like to know how Wolverine versus Swarm would go according to user Beetle and user Shell? head. I assume they're going to have the same consensus we have where Swarm would staying Wolverine to death and Wolverine would be dead. Well, this person used wrestling terms, which I feel is like appropriate for our show. Not really sure what either could do to the other. I mean, Logan probably has to sleep at some point so Swarm could pin his sleeping form for a sleeping tent count. And then the last one, the last call. The last comment from shellhead is I suppose Wolverine could eventually kill every single bee in the swarm, but it will be a long miserable fight for him. On the other hand, maybe swarm could suffocate
Starting point is 00:41:07 Wolverine by filling his mouth and throat with bees. Right? Yeah. That's that's a good idea. That's really good. Can we get this guy of the show? Shellhead. Why didn't that right? Phil is mouthful of bees. It's so obvious when you hear it online, right? What did you object to the drugs? I think the same thing as the whiskey and the cigars. Like, his body would just repair itself as quickly as it was damaged. That's, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:41:38 He's not more addicted to drugs then. Right. Like, I expect Wolverine to be like doing crystal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's just like fucked up all the time. Exactly. We have Avengers, a symbol.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And it's like Captain America and Iron Man and Wolverine shows up just huffing this massive cloud. Yeah. What's going on, man? I just two and crystal. What's going on? I could fight for 12 days without rest. Sucking gas out of the quengett. You know what you mean?
Starting point is 00:42:10 He's just huffing. Yeah. You don't want to know where Wolverine is. Wolverine approaches the fight with a brown paper bag and a can of spray paint. Yeah. He's just on the street corner like looking for heroin, you know. A fight sentinels. just give me a bump yeah well that's it like he needs like loads of cocaine that's why he gets
Starting point is 00:42:32 into like berserker raids because he's just like fucked up on cocaine he's like ah i gotta fight bah you know he's going through the withdrawal yeah um so all of those alternate versions like the the wolverine squad that was just him on mushrooms yeah it's not real yeah exactly he's just he saw lSD going all right other me's let's let's go yeah up. So that could, well, okay, maybe, maybe. I feel like he wouldn't die. I don't think, I feel like he's not going to die from doing drugs, but he should do drugs.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I feel like it's intensely distracted. Is that Wolverine should definitely do drugs. And then acid you had some issues with. Yeah. I wrote take his powers away and then shoot him in the head. Okay. But how are you taking his powers away? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But it's happened before. He's lost his powers a couple times. He's lost his part. So it's theoretically it is possible. Mm-hmm. The shoot in the head bit, I don't know, because Skelton may have adamantium.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Maybe he'll just shoot him in the heart. I don't know. You know? Yeah, you just have to aim for around the rib bones. We're through the rib cage, yeah, yeah. But just, you know, do that. That one is a bit of a cop-bite,
Starting point is 00:43:52 because obviously if you can take his powers away, then you can do anything to him. Mm-hmm. but so that one does need scrutinizing I'm pretty pretty obviously that that's not a good one I said you could freeze him in nitrogen and then just like hit him with a hammer because he would chatter yeah yeah um or like just freeze him
Starting point is 00:44:15 like just just freeze him forever because then he'd be frozen he wouldn't be able to like regenerate anything or weren't you just scrutinizing the the present that was freezing the French Indian War I didn't know that that was a thing until like 20 minutes ago and that's you know that that's
Starting point is 00:44:40 I think that's different because Wolverine we know can live for a long time and so if he just freeze him then he's frozen and his healing part won't work if he's frozen right? Yeah so then he'll just die of like hypothermia or whatever
Starting point is 00:44:56 you die from whenever you're frozen. Die from being frozen. I mean, I don't necessarily think that his powers would turn off because he was frozen. Yeah, but where's he going to generate warmth from? Yeah, like, how can he, how can his consciousness work if he's frozen? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I think maybe he would be frozen alive. Like, I don't think it would necessarily kill him, maybe, because his body would be constantly, you know, like healing itself, possibly. Yeah. What I've seen a lot of people online who's discussed this very topic is it involves having to overload his healing factor. Like, if it's constantly just in a state of repair, he's not getting better. So he could freeze him. theoretically.
Starting point is 00:45:51 But what about the nitrogen bit? Are you guys happy enough for that? He'd dip him, like freeze him in nitrogen, and then he's all brittle, and he hit him on the hammer and he just shatters. Well, I mean, if the pieces, if there's, like, you know, if it's just down to a single atom, if there's like a sliver of something, right? Theoretically, you could come back from it. I guess you'd have to keep the pieces cold, though. Yeah. Dude, come on, no.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Well, we watch it. That one I think is really good. I think that was really good. I, I'm putting that on the, like, 100% would kill wool ring list. I'm just going to say we've seen Alien Romulus. We see what happens when you freeze something that it thaws out eventually. Don't worry. Freezing in nitrogen is different.
Starting point is 00:46:37 It changes the whole molecular structure of the thing you're freezing. It's not just like, oh, you're cold. You know what you mean? Yeah. I saw how that woman got killed in Jason X. And then you hit him in the hammer. He's like totally going to shatter. Like, I think that one's really good.
Starting point is 00:46:54 and then the last one I wrote is this is actually the first one I wrote this is the first idea I had for I to kill Wolverine which was just repeatedly hit him with cars you just keep hitting him like to the point we made last time to overload his healing factor right you just keep hitting him
Starting point is 00:47:19 and then eventually he'll run out of healing power just keep hitting stream driving cars into him. Can I tell you that my go-to reaction to anything? He was like, well, maybe he just got hit by a car, you know? I do feel like it very funny that the Punisher did that with the steamroller
Starting point is 00:47:36 for all intents and purposes. What if he was just, like he's trying to cross the road, right? And he just, he gets hit by a car. Oh, man. But because it's a busy road, he gets hit by another car. And these people have places to be. They're not slowing down. They're not going to stop because of Wolverines on the road.
Starting point is 00:47:52 They're just going to drive into him and go to work. Right. So it just hundreds of cars. Wouldn't it do more damage to the cars than Wolverine because of his adamantia bones? The cars would have to blow up immediately. Which could happen. Yeah. I was thinking, here's my storyline pitch, right?
Starting point is 00:48:14 You know, guys, I love Arcade. He's like a guilty pleasure character for me. What if Arcade captures Wolverine and brainwashes him as he, as we've shown. show and he's very weak too. Thank you. And we put him just in a large game of Frogger where he's just constantly getting hit by cars.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He's gone and get him by cars. Exactly. If it's the arcade murder world motif and it also incorporates getting hit by cars, which we all love. And then how are you going to entice him to keep hopping across the road? Why wouldn't you just stay still?
Starting point is 00:48:47 There's a big bag of heroin on the other hand. It's just a gallon jug that says PCP. Yeah. Yeah, no, much you love your drugs. And they're like, I do love drugs. I'm Wolverine. You know what you mean? Yeah, he's kind of like those people that's like, I like, I like alcohol for the taste and not just gets me messed up.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah. Because his healing factor's always working. He's like, when I do methamphetamines, I just do it for the taste. It's a totally different experience than like most other people. He gets the full benefit of the drugs. He's like a Somali. Yeah, he knows. He knows the good.
Starting point is 00:49:24 stuff, you know. He takes a sniff of a bag of smack and he's like, hmm, yes. I hit, there's traces of oak in this. Yeah. So, you know, I feel like, okay, so out of those suggestions, which one do you think is most likely to work? So I think the frozen thing is probably your best bet, like the nitrogen, but I think I'm also enticed after seeing Shellhead's argument on the CBR message board.
Starting point is 00:49:57 But the B. Yeah, Swarm filling his lungs and mouth and throat with bees. I think that could work. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think it could work. It's okay. I didn't expect bees to be so popular, but, you know, you can never kind of mind. Shellhead had a great argument.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Why doesn't Swarm do that more often, people? Yeah, because nobody wants that. Nobody wants, nobody even wants to be to fly past their head. No Joe which one you think is The best one I would go for the freezing I think yeah
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah that's the way to go really Okay Like even if you're not gonna be able to Like if you hit it with a hammer I'd imagine like his Like body and muscles would break apart But the skeleton wouldn't But even then it's like
Starting point is 00:50:48 I you know We don't know Nobody's ever like put Adam Antim into like nitrogen. You know? Maybe that's the actual way to like, people are always like, oh, it's so, it's unbreakable because they're like using a saw or like a hammer
Starting point is 00:51:03 or like a hammer or fleam throw or whatever. But they didn't think about dipping it in nitrogen and breaking it. You know, maybe we have just completely cracked the adamantium thing. Yeah. Which sounds likely because we're very smart. You know? I thought that one was. the most likely. Although I did like the cars. That one really made me laugh. Um, so just, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:29 just the idea of him getting up like, oh, that sucks. Bam, you know, he gets up like another car. Um, because sometimes you go to a highway, they're very busy all the time. Like, even at night, always busy. Big trucks and stuff coming through, you know. Yeah, but it does, it sounds like a lot of effort, though. They have like a constant stream of cars coming in him like 24 hours a day, 365 days. a year, presumably for the next, I don't know, however many years that the planet exists. I can't be not many years. Surely at some point he would like, I don't like it and have my cars anymore. You know, I feel like, I don't think it would take years.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I think, because again, you're overloading his healing factor. I mean, if you got hit by a car, once, that might be it. You know what you mean? So imagine it happened all the time for like three weeks. you'd be like, I'm tired. I'm tired of being a big car, you know. So I don't think it would take too long. But, you know, obviously this is a topic of discussion.
Starting point is 00:52:41 If you're listening to this on YouTube, feel free to write down in the comments, which idea you think was the best. I hope it's the car one. I assume it will be. The night region one, I think, is pretty long. logical. The rest of them were a little bit questionable. But that was that was my list. So there you go. John, I believe you have an option as well.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That none of us know about? No, you'll be shocked to hear that my plan to kill Wolverine was to drown him. I was hoping you're going to say bees. I mean, Swarm is one of John's favorite characters. Yeah, exactly. I mean, my reason for thinking this is there's like historical precedence for drowning, killing someone with Wolverine's powers. So he actually killed his own son, Dakin, back in X-Force 34, where they, They had a big fight and then all he did was just hold his head down in a puddle of water. And that was enough to kill DeKenn because it deprived the brain of oxygen.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And like he basically suffocates and dies. And yeah, as long as he was still being drowned, I guess, then the body doesn't have a chance to heal itself. So this was my starting point. And then sort of working my way back. I was thinking, well, how do you do this? Because like, you know, a puddle of water, that's not really the way to take out someone of Wolverine's stature.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Like, you need to go a bit bigger than that. And plus, like, someone could very easily just, like, pull him out of the puddle of water and then, you know, he'd probably start healing again. So, you know, we have to think bigger than this. So are you guys? Are you guys familiar with the Mariana Trench? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:56 There you go. It's, you know, the deepest part of the ocean located in the Western Pacific Ocean right near Guam. At its deepest, it's 36,037 feet or 6.8 miles all the way down. So not only that, but like the pressure at the bottom is more than a thousand times greater than sea level, the temperature is just about freezing and the water is almost completely dark as well. So in short, it's like pretty much the most remote place on earth and not somewhere that, you know, Wolverine could easily escape on his own or that any of his friends or allies or teammates could, you know, ever hope to go and rescue him easily as well.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So the question is how to actually get him there. And I guess the first thing you need to do is to incapacitate Wolverine somehow. Which we've learned you can get any old fucking guy can kidnap him. Exactly. He's been knocked unconscious many times in the comic books. Which is bizarre because you would think being knocked unconscious, you could just heal yourself from the unconsciousness, right? Yeah, yeah. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:56:13 He just wakes up again, right? No. Nope. Nope. It doesn't work that way. Nope. And so I figured this was the part where we could have a bit of fun with like knocking him unconscious. Like, you know, maybe drop a piano on his head, make him, you know, trick him into running headfirst into a wall with a tunnel entrance painted on it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Throw him off an airplane. Well, yeah, yeah, there you go. Or throw him off an airplane with one of those fake parachutes that for some reason has like, cutlery in instead of a parachute. Whatever floats your boat. But yeah, then, you know, once he's unconscious, then we just need to get into the Pacific Ocean. Or, you know, we could maybe even kill two birds with one stone
Starting point is 00:57:06 by knocking him out there. So this is why I figured maybe we could have, like something law him to the Pacific Ocean. Like maybe have Sabretooth sailing around being a pirate or something like that. And you could hire Sabretooth to do this or maybe just put a fake story out there. It doesn't really matter as long as Wolverine investigates and shows up and then, bam, he gets a piano to the head or whatever. And then what we need is the heaviest metal in the Marvel universe.
Starting point is 00:57:48 which honestly my research didn't really turn up a definitive answer what the heaviest metal is. There's lots of stuff out there about like the strongest and the most durable and blah, blah, blah. So we'll just go based off that, basically. And there was a new metal produced in the recent Krakow age via the white hot room formed by condensing carbon. which are apparently elemental particles which give matter its size, mass, and density. And it's an anti-magic metal that once it sets, it's stronger and more durable than even true adamantium. And it can actually break adamantium as well. And this metal is called Mysterium.
Starting point is 00:58:44 So it's pretty mysterious. It's, yeah, it's. mysterious, it's strong, like even Captain Marvel can bend it. It's got magnetic properties. So I figured, well, hang on, who do we know who's got magnetic powers? You might be able to manipulate that metal in a way that we could use it. So I figured we will go with either Magneto or Lorna Dane, aka Polaris, and try and win them to our cause, which might be tricky because, you know, they're both currently allies of Wolverine and the X-Men and probably have no reason to want to help kill him.
Starting point is 00:59:31 But we can help fix that by either A. I could woo one of them and, you know, get them to marry me. I mean, whichever one. Okay. It's easy. You think this is the first time I've wooed? Magneto? No. I mean, he's an old romantic at heart.
Starting point is 00:59:53 He will get bowled over. You're an old man at heart. Yeah. All it takes is a big bunch of flowers and he's mine. Some men ofusals. But I just have to say, I just have to say your plan to kill Aquaman also involved you seducing a supervillain?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah, well, I figured I'd make it a funding theme. play. He's got a type, all right? Leave me along. He certainly does. No, it's just I'm such a, you know, a lovable person. Yeah, he is romantic. It's just you're very sweet.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You're the type who turns up with the bouquet and the heart-shaped box of chocolates on your first date. Absolutely. We're in a tuxedo. Killing Wolverine in the scene. By the way, you know, it would be really cool. If we killed Wolverine while holding hands. And he'd be like, that would be really cool.
Starting point is 01:00:51 What a lovely date that would be, you know? You'd never forget it. Nope. Remember when we first met and we committed homicide? Shut up. I sense you guys don't really have faith in me being able to woo Magneto or Lonerdain. Honestly, I don't think that that's what we're applied at all. I think that we do.
Starting point is 01:01:14 We're just, we're like, you know, Are you going on with Magneto because you love him or just because... Are you using him? Oh, yeah. It's all part of the plan. Okay. I dump Magneto or Polaris after this is all done. Yeah, because the Akron one was definitely just for the plan.
Starting point is 01:01:33 So we were like, okay. We were just wondering, like, maybe the Magneto one is the true love. And the plan just happens as it happens, you know? But no, you're kicking him to the curb too. Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%. It's like a Christmas Hallmark movie where you move back to your small town. Kill Wolverine. Kill Wolverine.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Fell in love with your old high school sweetheart who made you believe in the magic of Christmas again. Yeah. Yeah, this is exactly like a Hallmark Christmas film. Okay. So you've you've you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, viewed Magneto or bars. Well, I'm all failing that I'll just hire someone to, you know, use mind control
Starting point is 01:02:18 since apparently that's pretty easy to do. Fucking whatever. Brainwash yourself. It's a truly loving Magneto. So once we have like ally with magnetic powers
Starting point is 01:02:35 then have them steal some of the Mysterium which you know should be fairly easy because I believe the X-Men basically hold the entire supply of it. and then all they have to do is make a gigantic anchor with it. Wrap it around Wolverine to keep his limbs incapacitated so he can't like pop his claws or break free. And then yeah, we're just dropping down into the deepest, darkest depths of the Mariana Trench
Starting point is 01:03:07 were here or drown on the way down where he's unable to heal from it because his lungs will be just constantly full of water and where the pressure would just push in on his body and like yeah basically causes lungs to continually collapse every time they heal um and then yeah not only that but his body will be like constantly fighting off the nitrogen narcosis being down at that depth and then so like even if he is still alive somehow he's basically constant falling unconscious. But he wouldn't be still alive because he'd be dead at this point. So yeah, I feel like, I agree, man, because that's why I thought the crapping him
Starting point is 01:03:59 underwater would be good because like if you're underwater for like a long time, there's no way for your like, his body wouldn't be able to like regenerate because his body's not used to be underwater. Yeah. Like that's not one of his powers isn't he can breathe underwater. so he doesn't have the ability to generate oxygen. So if you just leave him underwater for like two weeks, like that would kill him, surely.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I didn't think about dropping him into the deepest part of the ocean, though. That's also, if you did that, like we don't know what's down there. Yeah. Like some other fucking sea creatures you could eat him. And don't forget, as well, his, his skeleton is made out of heavy adamantium metal. So he's not exactly going to be able to swim six, 0.8 miles to freedom as well, even if he did
Starting point is 01:04:48 manage to get free. Have they ever showed him, like, swimming? Because that's a good point that his bones are super heavy. Like, down at that depth, being able to swim like that far, would not be possible. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:03 You know? I rest my case. That's pretty good. And then we put bees in his mouth. Yeah. Just to really fuck him up. They really fuck him up. Yeah. Just for fun.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yeah. Yeah. That's just for our own amusement. Magneto is like, what are you doing? I'm putting bees as smart. You're like, don't wait.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Whatever. Yeah. Do you think this is romantic? He's like, I don't know, man. No. But it's like, well, you know, because at that point you're having to work with Swarm,
Starting point is 01:05:31 who is a Nazi, Magneto's going to feel ways about that. Oh, yeah, this is true. Hmm. Probably that's called to bring them in. Yeah, just don't tell them. Swarm is your guy on the side. don't tell your mate about it.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yeah. You know what I mean? You got to see, you got to keep some secrets. Mm-hmm. You know. And now that you've both killed Magneto, that's a big,
Starting point is 01:05:52 oh no, you killed Wolverine. It's a big secret, yeah. It's a big secret. You're gonna both. Wait, you haven't killed. Don't kill Magneto yet.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. Johnta got an insurance policy on Magneto. That would be really good if you used to use Magneto to get him to help you kill Wolverine. And then you're right in the middle of the ocean on a boat. And he was like, that was fun. What do we do now? And he turned to him.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Like, Now I kill you. And then you throw a Magneto over the boat as well. And you're like, well, now I'm back on the market. You know what you mean? I love to seduce somebody else. This is a pretty good plan. Yeah, it took some turns, but I'm liking where it's going.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah, honestly, like that's, that one's, the one's hard to, like, I feel like that would kill Wolverine, surely. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we can. There's not a single part of that that we could critique. No, no. And it also leads to the new series, you know, how there's like,
Starting point is 01:06:50 Deadpool kills the Marvel universe. John seduces the Marvel universe. I honestly, this is the best part now that we, we're going to be looking forward to, like, I wonder who he seduces next. Who knew John was the Lethario of the podcast? I think we all know that. I think we knew that. I know.
Starting point is 01:07:17 All right. If John is the age to be K, does that make me in you China? Am I triple age? Yeah. I guess so. I guess that makes me China. So I'm going out with China. Yeah, it's up.
Starting point is 01:07:33 You were not going to like what happens in a couple of years' time. No, I probably won't. No. You're not going to like that. You never call anymore. I'm busy working? all right well do you think we've sufficiently killed wolverine i think so yeah if you have no documents then yeah i mean i think that we we came up with some really logical ways to kill him
Starting point is 01:08:02 you know it's really funny because they do really like push the idea that wolverine's like super unkillable and completely difficult but then you also see like i mean he drowned his son in a puddle like, which is it? Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, Wolverine can't be stopped. You can't be killed. It's like Hydro-Man can do it by the sound of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Yeah. I should have brought Hydrom-Man in. People are like, oh, Hydramon's not a good villain. He could kill Wolverine. It could have saved you a lot of time, John, and a lot of seduction. No, that's part of the fun, though. Do you know what I mean? That's part of the buildup.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Hey, do you remember that that like, what if or whatever were Sandman kills Spider-Man by like filling them up with sand? That would also work with Wolverine, wouldn't it? You would think so? Well, that's pretty much the same as the bees. Yeah, exactly. Any sort of suffocation or exphyxia
Starting point is 01:08:58 that turns off his brain like done, right? Yeah. Bees in the lungs will do that for sure. I've got bees in the lung. Bees, bees in the lung. We're writing songs now? Yeah. All right. I didn't think this podcast would have so many different, like, entities,
Starting point is 01:09:18 but we're getting our T-shirt brand. We're getting our songs. Can I request that a particular shirt be of, like, John inside of a heart holding a bouquet of flowers? Yes, you may request it. Remind me about this later because I'll probably forget, but I think we can 100% make that work. there's a we've had a lot of good ones i i still like baby juggernaut and a papoose baby juggernaut i'm i think is a really good one um because of the fact that we really have never explained baby
Starting point is 01:09:56 juggernaut i don't think is on the show baby juggernaut just just one day we just started talking about baby juggerna oh just wraparating the idea of baby juggernaut will that actually explaining it um oh no i think it's because we were talking about kid juggernaut which is like online exclusive Marvel and we're like, why not Baby Juggernaut? Well, we were doing it off Mike, so I don't think, I don't think anybody knows what Baby Juggerna is. No. Until they see
Starting point is 01:10:22 the new comic that we're going to release. The team up of the century of Armo's Sniberman, Baby Juggernaut, and Gun Bunny. Yes. It's going to be which one of them is John going to seduce? Hopefully not the baby.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It's the whole issue. The whole issue is just the dating game. where they're like behind a wall sitting on stools and John's asking them questions. Yeah. That could be a good shirt too. In two words or less, how would you describe your lovemaking? Oh, don't ask baby juggernaut.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That's not cool. That's not. That's not what this podcast about, guys. All right, John, I think we were talking about. Were we talking about movies before we started? Oh yes we were So what is your movie count at for the year so far? Because we're winding down, we're in the middle,
Starting point is 01:11:20 we're out the middle of December. So it's up to 729. Can I tell you what my favorite part about this is? Because we are so many episodes ahead, I'm still going to be saying, what is your movie total for the year? And it'll be like, realistically end of January. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So what is your number at? 729. A lot of movies. A lot of Labyrinth films. A lot of Leprocon films. Got some more to go. That's right. What did you think of Jennifer Aniston in that?
Starting point is 01:12:00 I mean, she was basically just playing Rachel Green, but out in the sticks and dealing with a weird little Irish fella. Which is an episode of Friends. Yeah. I thought it was Dylan because these seven apples high. Hi. That's Smurfs. You've described yourself as seven apples. Hi, sir.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Did I? You have? I'm funny, man. That's good. It really is, especially because you don't remember it. No, I remember. As soon as these podcasts are done, like, I forget everything that happens. That makes editing an adventure. Yeah, oh, dude, whenever I was doing podcasts, that would happen to me.
Starting point is 01:12:51 I would forget everything. And then I'd listen to the show back. And then I'm like, boy, I'm good, man. That's funny. Why don't I remember any of the stuff I say, you know? Anyway. So, Dylan, are there any projects you want to promote? My new seven apples high t-shirt that's coming out of her.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Team Public Store, whatever the fuck. I could make that shirt. Yeah. I said, I think we got some winners. We just got some in the bank. Yeah. Hopefully, by the time this episode comes out, there actually will be a t-shirt thing in the description.
Starting point is 01:13:36 You'll find out. It's a mystery. But other than that, I don't know about it. I don't do anything. You know. That's fair. Yeah, I'm a lazy man. I turn up in the show once a week and then sleep.
Starting point is 01:13:51 For the rest of the week. I'm doing it. Tilling sleeps six days and 22 hours a week. I sleep a lot. Yeah. I'm like that. I'm like Snorlax. There you go.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I sleep a lot. With the wrong being snorlax. Yeah. He's big and lovable. He is big. He could probably like eat less, I think. Oh, well. You know, I'm not going to tell him how to live his life.
Starting point is 01:14:18 He might switch. I'm pretty sure he's taller than seven apples as well. But I hope so. He would be less intimidating if he was really small. You know. Yeah. Well, the only thing I have going on is large old cup podcast, stream of consciousness, talking for 28 minutes.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I don't know what about until I get into it. So it's, you know, interesting. But that's going to be all for us today. Next week, I think we're going to do another auction because I found a way to make it a little more fair. because there was always the accusation because I always knew what was coming up next that I could plan ahead. You were cheating.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Somehow, we don't know how, but you were doing it. So I found a site where I can create a wheel, like a Wheel of Fortune wheel. We'll pull all their options on who's eligible on the wheel and we'll spin it and that will be who we get to bid on. Nice. Exciting. So I think, Dylan, you wanted to do, like, Spider-Man villains to create our own team?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yeah, I thought that would be fun. It doesn't have to be a Sinister 6 because there's, like, the Sinister 15 or whatever. Like, yeah. Well, and we did pick our fantasy Sinister 6, but I can imagine that not all of the options that we discussed are going to be on there. Right. Right. This is different. This isn't just us picking it.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Now we're competing against each other to get that. team. You know what you mean? What we should do is, like, write down what our ideal Sinister 6th team was in that episode, and then compare it to the results of this auction, which I feel very different. I'll have you know that I have a feeling that the Upsalt Goblins team is not going to do as well. Don't think so. It might be a little different, you know.
Starting point is 01:16:17 but we'll we'll see that next week it'll be a surprise I like the idea to be trying to get all gobbums anyway like I'm just going to hold off I'm going to hold off I think I can do it's like two goblins on the list my sinister six is two people sinister two that's not as intimidating is it yeah yeah just two two goblins did anybody actually choose mystery Sinister for their Sinister 6. We missed an opportunity. Well, he's not really a Spider-Man villain.
Starting point is 01:16:54 But he's Sinister. He's right there on the name. He has fought Spider-Man like a couple times, but not really. Because you could get Mr. Sinister and the lady-Mr. Sinister. I don't think Lady Mr. Sinister is called Lady Mr. Sinister. I think it's just lady-sinister. Oh, it's not Miss Sinister?
Starting point is 01:17:14 Maybe, but I feel like it would be redundant if she kept the near-Mist. or internet him, you know. All right, everybody, that's going to do us. All right, folks, it's going to do us for today. I hope you had fun. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Bye.

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