The Smark Avengers - Vol 4, Ep 13: X-Men Lineups, Katy Perry in Space, and Hotdog Madness — Smark Avengers Chaos!

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

🚀🌭🧬 X-Men Drafts, Katy Perry in Space, and Hotdog Madness — Smark Avengers Chaos! 🧬🌭🚀 When Corey’s away, Dylan and Jon go off the rails! In this wild episode of Smark Avengers, we dive into a little bit of everything — from an uncovered "Lost Episode" where we created our dream X-Men lineups, to the news of Katy Perry traveling to space, to some of the most chaotic hotdog debates you’ll ever hear on a comic book podcast. 🎯 In this episode: Reacting to our old X-Men Fantasy Teams — Who picked better mutants? The absolutely real, absolutely bizarre Katy Perry space news Hotdog hot takes: We settle NOTHING. Random fandom chaos, jokes, and off-topic madness! If you love comics, pop culture, or just hilarious unfiltered conversations, this is the Smark Avengers episode you don't want to miss! 👍 LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and COMMENT your dream X-Men team (and your stance on the great hotdog debate)! #SmarkAvengers #ComicBookPodcast #XMen #XMenDraft #LostEpisode #MarvelComics #HotdogDebate #KatyPerry #SpaceNews #PopCulturePodcast #MarvelPodcast #XMenTeam #NerdCulture #ComicTalk #MCU #MarvelFans #GeekPodcast #NerdDebate

Have you lost? Nope. Oh man, we missed that on that episode where you guys talked about hot dogs for like two hours. Two whole hours. Two whole hours on hot dogs. You wouldn't think we could do it. Well, we did it. And I know one will ever be able to hear it.

Well, you know, it's their loss. Some things are meant to be kept secret, I think. Well, yeah, there's all those people out there who don't know enough about it. hot dogs and we got to keep it that way right the big hot dog corporations are written down our necks man being like don't tell everybody the hot dog secrets like i think people already know some of the secrets you know do they know the secret ingredients in the hot dogs that's the thing i mean i feel like their biggest mistake was telling us what those ingredients were now we know what the answer is and that's why we're not allowed to talk about

the hot dog ingredients anymore. Some of them were very surprising. Well, yeah. I didn't realize there was actual dogs in there. But which dogs? You'll never know. All the famous dogs. Yeah.

Whenever, if you see a dog on TV and obviously the dog dies. And then what happens to it is it gets smushed up and turn into hot dogs. Mm-hmm. So every time you see a show with a dog on it right now, and you'll be like, I'm going to let me eat that dog. I eat that dog. I want to have it.

And if you see Lassie's meat, this is going to be like somebody, thousands of people have eaten Lassie by now, you know? Yeah, yeah. Isn't that encouraging? Someday, I'd like to be eaten by thousands of people. That'll get started?

Yeah. We nailed it. Should we just, should we just, I guess. Okay, hi everybody. Welcome to Smart Avengers. We are, we're a man down today, unfortunately.

But that's because Corey kind of handles the business side of things. And he forgot to pay taxes on the huge amount of revenue that we make from this show. And that got him into some trouble. Because me and John aren't legally from the United States. We're free, free to go. They can arrest us in somebody else's country. But in America, they can arrest you and deport you, even if you live here, your entire life.

So you better not say that the mean about King Trump or else he'll arrest you. So we're not sure if Corey has just been sent to prison for not paying taxes or if he's been deported, we don't know. Honestly, I thought he'd gone with Katie Perry to the moon. She can go to the moon. Oh, well, you know, wherever she went. She went up and then she came down again.

Yeah, that's an expensive roller coaster. Yeah, but it's good, though, because, like, there's no poverty anymore. So we can all, what else are we going to spend that money on? Obviously, we're going to spend on cheating 10 women up in the space so they can float her on for 10 minutes and then come back down again. How expensive can space rocket travel be? Yeah, a piece of piss. Yeah, sign me up, right? I'll pay with like tin cans.

You know, like, how many tin cans could it possibly take? Not that many, right? Yeah, yeah, sure, Katie Perry went up, but she didn't go up just because she said a world famous singer. No, she went up because she's a deep love and respect for space travel and all that it represents. Mm-hmm. You know, it wasn't because she's millions and millions of millions of. of dollars. And so conversely, we have not

made millions and millions of dollars either, but we have a deep love understanding of space and the whole whatever. So clearly. So why don't, why, why couldn't we be the next ones to go up to space and then float around for five minutes and then come back down to earth again, you know? Yeah. I wouldn't like the whole travel bit. I mean, yeah. It feels like

a long walk for a short drink of water. Like the space thing kind of seems fun. Like, well, I'm floating around or whatever, you know. But you can do that here. Yeah, just, you know, go into a swimming pool and you get the same sensation. Yeah. Yeah. And then you'll float.

And like, wow, this is great. I can do moon salts, you know. Like, I don't quite get it. There's something really weird to me. about like getting an old capsule and shooting yourself into like a part of the universe that is like completely

unprepared you're not prepared for this at all right you shouldn't be here you very clearly are not supposed to be here and yet you are somehow something really weird to me about somebody going up and doing that and then just like dancing around do you what you mean

is that what the purpose of her trip was was she like shooting a music video up there no she just went up the 10 women just went up the space wow they're just like you know what do you mean they're all like having a great time like wow woo and i'm like it's so easy to die in this in this entire situation it would be so easy right i wouldn't want to be there no way up in space and then there's like hey was there always a big hole in the side of the spaceship you know and then you all get sucked died through the tiny little hole or whatever. I know a lot of its face as we covered.

Yes. Because like you go up there and you're like, wow, the earth's pretty big. But like I know that and I'm down here. You know? You ever tried to walk to spain? It takes a long time. And that's like pretty close. I mean comparatively.

Yeah. Yeah. You like, am I to try to walk from like here to China? That's it. I dare say that's impossible. Yeah, it'd take a while. Yeah, it takes so long. So I'm like, I know that the Earth is really big.

Tell me something else, you know. And they're like, well, did you know? Not only is it big, it's also round. I'm like, nah, it's not what is it? NASA fake those pictures because they couldn't get people to the moon, but they could get Kitty Perry to get a little bit closer to the moon. And Corey as well. but did he go up there we we don't know

I mean yeah who's to say who's to say Corey himself possibly but he's not here right now to defend himself so therefore we're able to make as many basis accusations with him as we wish and there will be more coming up in the show so keep you keep tuned for that

or whatever I think this is going really well I mean yes we've got off to a hot start, but I feel like maybe given that this is like a comic book podcast, maybe we should talk

about something comic book related, possibly. Possibly, but not definitively. No, no, no, no. There's a good chance. It'll roll back to the Katie Perry thing.

These comics are set in space. Mm-hmm. Katie Perry was in a comic. I don't know if that's true. She probably was. It's something that's easily Googled, and I'm not going to Google. Was Kitty Perry? I mean, she's been in a spaceship.

She's been in a comic, right? She was on The Simpsons for Foxy. As herself, like, not even as like a cartoon. Like, it was actually Kitty Perry. Mm-hmm. Like, she can, she's got to be in a comic, right? Apparently there was a Katie Perry comic book announced in, for July 20s

18, I think. And the word of nine doesn't sound good. Yeah, I don't know if it actually came to be. Because I was like, that could be the show. We'll review the Kitty Perry comic book. Wouldn't that be great at topical kind of, even though

this will come out like a month after she did this fucking thing? Oops. When I said topical, I meant not topical at all. People are going to be like, what the fuck you're talking about? Nobody would have to do. That didn't happen.

Happened a month ago, kid. Oh, man. Maybe we cut that bit out so everybody doesn't realize how we make the show. Corey, you're going to have a fun time with this one. Yep. Let's have a look. I would like it if the Kitty Perry book was true, but if it's not true. If it's not

If it doesn't actually come to To fruition I guess we could talk about something else I mean I can't find anything About it It was just the announcement for a comic book And then there's literally nothing else Which is hopped up

So for a comic book But they would tell you Who's gonna write it or illustrate it? Let's see Kitty Perry was going to do both Yeah we don't know if she's a good draw. You know, she might be great.

I mean, yeah. She's clearly a great writer. She wrote the grid Caspi. It was produced by Blue Water Productions. Whoever they may be. Written by Daily News columnist Howard Gensler

and illustrated by Eduardo Bazen. Daily news columnist? Yeah. The fuck? Did they roll out of comic book writers? I don't think so. Does he like

Kitty Perry like an abnormal mind? I guess it's so. Yeah. What else would be write to come? I like to put in like an advert in the paper. Like anybody want to write a Kitty Perry comic? And he's like, oh my God. This is like moment.

nobody else gets to Katie Perry it gets mine I've been a news journalist for too long now I get to talk about my favorite subject in the world Katie Perry if he ever went to space my mind would be blown you know

fortunately that will never happen all right I'm sorry you know what we are talking about Katie Perry a lot maybe we should talk with something else yeah yeah what do you want to talk about Oh no, don't put me on the spot

Well, you know, if you go back to me, I'll start talking about Kitty Perry again What happened in comics recently That we know about I, um, there's something I wanted to bring up to you I feel like after this happened, I brought up to Corey on a show But I don't recall I have a terrible, terrible memory, as you know And I constantly forget

But We did an episode where we pitted Marvel versus I was supposed to say Marvel versus Capcom Marvel versus DC in my head it's always Marvel versus Capcom right yeah yeah yeah makes sense incredible game

I got to play they re-released it recently and I got it in the switch and I got to play Marvel versus Capcom 2 again and I love that game so much yeah so much the third one wasn't as good to me because I don't like the graphics it was all like 3D I'm like

There's a charm that 2D sprites. It's why Pokemon sucks these days. The charm is in the 2D sprites. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as much fun when it looks like that. The fuck was they talking about it. Oh, I remember. That's good to get on camera, isn't it?

Me totally losing where I was. So we did an episode where we did Marvel versus DC. Yes. And we put storm against somebody I don't remember who storm was up again I remember who storm was up against I could probably find out because I wrote it down I have no idea

Okay this is fun people can look at me watch Look into a notebook I'm guessing it was a controversial one though It was controversial Um what the fuck is it we not write that down we do oh death stroke versus storm

and you guys were on the side of death stroke and I was like no storm win because she's an omega level mutant and somebody I believe it was Corey argued with me and said no she wasn't and I was like I'm pretty sure she fucking is this was one of many arguments that we had during that show

I should say one of many arguments that I had with somebody else, right? I was like very argumentative in that one. You know? I mean, you got to stick up for your old guys, don't you? Exactly. Those people I strongly believe

that you guys were being a little bit too. I know you were trying to be diplomatic and not always work for Marvel, but I think there was a couple where you're like, you could have just taken this one with the team. And metaphorically speaking, and I said Storm is an

omega-level mutant and Corey's like, no, she isn't. So I think like a week later, they made it official in the comics that Storm is an omega-level mutant. And you know the run that she's doing now? Yeah, yeah. She is like officially an omega-level mutant because I think like eternity, the concept of eternity and

Marvel Comics is represented as a man, I guess, or some kind of person. Yeah, that's right. And entity was like, hey, Storm, you're going to be like, my new Harold or something. There's some kind of deal going on there. And so that gave her, like, omega-level powers. Now she's been abused with some extra, which I think she was probably, like, the way they fucking band you around omega-level mutants. I'm like Storm is, right? She's got to be.

She's control of all the fucking elements. That's arguably as powerful as it can fucking be. Right? That's insanity. So I wanted to bring that up. So I feel like we should overturn the decision and make Storm the winner. Well, I think that the argument that Corey made, which was what swung me in that episode, was that, you know, Yeah, Storm is extremely powerful.

And Deathstroke is basically just a man. But he's an expert assassin. And if he wants to kill someone, then he probably could. Like, even if it was sniping storm from like a million, well, not a million miles away, but you know what I mean? I just, I didn't, I still think that's possible to do. If for a mutant like storm, because she could just make it stormy around her all the time. you get the tact

you know the way the Marvel are where there's makeup shit like this but she should be able to detect the bullet on the wind before the bullet even leaves the gun you know shit like that you know that do some that's what they do a magneto all the time

yeah yeah I think I brought up on the show but I'm like that you know she's on a mega level mutant eye even before that I argue she would have done great I just brought this up because I was reading an article about this the other day and it's fresh in my mind

I think it's nice that Storm's getting a solo book I think she we've talked about how good Storm is as a character yeah yeah I need the time I believe she was one of the few did we make did we actually do that episode where we drafted the X-Men

uh I think that one of the ones that we lost I think that was when we lost many many moons ago so we had done this episode where all three of us would make our own perfect X-Men team had like I think eight to ten

people in it and we all did it individually and Storm was one of the few characters I think that was in everyone's that was an all three of us we all picked Storm I would assume

Gambit was also one of them I don't think I had Gambit on my team I don't think Corey is too either I think I well I was definitely picking gambit for sure. That was a good episode.

We should go back and do that again. I think I've just found the list of like all of our teams. Oh, no way. Can I try to remember mine? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I know Storm was on the list. Yes.

Oh, hang on. Do you know how many people are in, are in my list? Let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six. I mean... Yes. it's either seven or ten, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Because that means I know who the seventh person is. I remember there being a janky caveat to that. Okay, so Storm is one. Mm-hmm. And Gamut is one. Yes. Okay, so that's two. And I know that the Stepper cookies are clearly one of them.

Yes. This was done. I think this episode was recorded before they came back. on Krakawa wasn't it? I don't know I think this must have been during the middle of the

Crocoen age Well I say that because the reason I have three separate cookies is because when I stopped reading the X-Men there were three separate cookies Yeah because two of them died So that makes me think that We did this before

Or at least before that got revealed in Krakawa Because the steper cookies are back to be in five again yes so that that kind of kind of dated that that's really funny that we were able to also speaking of that i think one of them was beast that's correct okay so that also probably happened way before that whole issue with beast happened at length we've been very vocal about it. That's really funny. Wow. So that's four?

Yes. Strong guy was the strong guy. I remember. Because you need a strong guy. One, two, three, four, five. Telepaps, I think, were stuff for cookies. I feel if I have gambit in the team, Rogue's probably in the team. Yeah.

Yeah. And there's just one more. This is amazing. that you picked the exact same team again or you've remembered it after all this time. Well, it's so funny. Some of it was like deduction, I guess. That for cookies, I'm like, okay, that, I remember that being an issue. So that's why I remember that. And I remember that the strong guy was the strong guy.

That's how I remember that. Yeah. Oh, man, who's the other one, though? Oh, it's not Deadpool. No. It's not Deadpool. You're sort of on the right track, though. Deadpool.

Canadian? Not Canadian. Five foot five. Really unnecessarily angry. Oh, man. What was the clue? Not Canadian? Yeah.

Or not necessarily Canadian. I mean, yeah. Don't know of it's Canadian. Not necessarily Canadian. Okay, but partially Canadian. He's got an accent. Okay. Would you say this is a good pick?

Yeah, it's a pretty good pick. Interesting. An accent. Oh! I know who it is. Go for it. Those are good clues. Kind of like Deadpool and has an accent.

It's Phantom X. It is, yes. Oh, excellent. That's a good team. Yeah. It wasn't too bad at all. I mean, obviously, I would say that because they fucking made it. So I had seven people on my team.

Yeah, you also had four in reserve as well. Oh, I don't have to remember that. I can tell you them if you want. Yeah, maybe that's an easier thing you do. So it was Forge, Shadowcat, Sabretooth, and Exodus. Exodus. I was thinking about Exodus. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Shadow Cat. Who was the third one? Sabatooth. Sabretooth. Yeah. No Juggernaut. Yeah, I think this is before our obsession with baby juggernaut. It's a classic character.

Whenever I make those T-shirts, man, everybody's going to be wearing them, you know? Because as we've discussed, we're an incredibly successful podcast. Oh, yeah, clearly. And it just wasn't our fault that the taxes weren't filed correctly. Not out of our hands. Yes. We don't live in that country. And that's probably a good thing.

That's going to be the bit where we lose viewers. Yeah. It'll be a big awkward cut between that and the next bit. This Corey cuts it out. Okay. Do you want me to guess your team? Yeah, give it a try. This is kind of fun and we're kind of reliving that old episode that we lost.

Who do you like? Magnino. Yes. Easy. Boom. I also know a storm was one of them. Yes, she was. Because we talked about that.

All right. Cyclops. Uh, no psychops. Interesting. But I can give you some clues as to like the type of characters I was going for. So I had like, uh, I wanted to have a telepath. I wanted to have like a big brute slash brawler. Uh, I wanted a teleporter.

Okay. I wanted someone with a healing factor. Okay. No hints there. of a five-pot. I've smoked a cigar. And yeah, I think that's about it. Okay.

So, yeah, I think we operated on a similar system, you know, strong guy, talapath, storm. Somebody can fly. Hang on, that's weird that I didn't put like Gene Gray in one of my contenders.

Mm-hmm. All right. Well, it doesn't matter. We're not talking about me. We're talking about you. Storm, Magneto, Colossus. Yes. I was going to see Juggernaut, but I didn't.

I'm going to write these things too, okay? You probably typed them up. Yeah. You're not right, though. I'm like a fucking idiot. Shakespeare over here writing stuff for the week quill. Everybody else is typing stuff up on their iPhone 17 or whatever, you know. But whenever your iPhone 17 dies, what are you going to do, come to me, the guy with a pen of paper, I don't want you.

Not interesting. Who the, who was the, oh, wait, Colossus. Yes. Teleporter, Nightcrawler. No. Teleporter. Who else teleports? Blink?

No. Does blink teleport? I think of the reperson. She does, but I didn't pick her. I think that fucking he cares to shit about Blink, right? All the blink found to like turn it off. Or he's to cut this back again.

Deadpool? No. Does he do that more? He hasn't had to telephone for a while. I haven't read Deadpool in a long time. He uses magic. Magic? Yes, there you go.

Is that real? Yeah. Okay. You could have just been saying that to move on, you know? Yeah, sure. Because nobody knows. Nobody knows realness. Because you make all this off.

One, two, three, four. Who else do you like? Um, well, you didn't put gamut on the list, right? No, no, no, no gambit for me. Racist. Um, but a specific kind of race. Because you're also in storm. So, you know a storm colossus magic.

So we need a telepath. Yes, we do. Is it Jean Grey? It's not Jean Grey. Is it Emma Frost? Of course it's Emma Frost. Yes. I'm surprised.

I didn't put Emma Frost on my reserve list either. I do like Emma Frost a lot. She's a real bitch. One, two, three, four, five. How many more have I got left? Two more to go. And what are their

classifications? One is sort of the guy in the chair like tech support and the other as a healing factor. If this turns out to be literally the most famous

healing factor guy and literally the fucking guy in the chair. Well, one of them's Wolverine. Kind of? What is, X-22? Yes. Yes.

I like X-22 better than Wolverine. Yeah, she's great. No, I mean, like, as in what, she is great. And I do mean that I like X-P2 more than Wolverine. But I mean, in terms, like, she was Wolverine for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, we're like, no, no, no, no. She's X-22.

She's different. She's not Wolverine. Similar. Not Wolverine. I don't know. I mean, she's, I believe she's Wolverine again in the comics and she's got her own, like, solo series. I don't, I would rather her not be Wolverine. You know what I mean?

It feels like growth, though, I think. Like, she's sort of graduated from the X-23. She grew in the Wolverine? No, she's her own person. She's not Wolverine. That's part of it. Don't you think? Maybe.

She should do her best to like, she can be Wolverine adjacent. That doesn't mean she has to be Wolverine. But I think like, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah. I think like the X-23 name for her is probably problematic as well because it's like a reminder of her gnarly origins.

Sounds badass of, doesn't it? I mean, it does, but it probably triggers something. I ragged. X23 sounds like the name of. somebody that will fuck you up. Yeah. Like that's, it's perfect. Wolverine doesn't.

But X-23, you're like, stay the fuck away from that. You don't even need to know what it's, what's the why. Like, I'm not going anywhere near a fucking anything called X-23. You kidding me? Get out of time.

If me and X-23 were in the same space rocket shooting up in the space, I don't know what I would do. I've got. Yeah. Like banging on the glass for the brakes and then like a gold finger thing. you know. I have no idea what you're talking about.

You're doing Goldfinger whenever they break the window. Gold finger. Yeah. Is it gold finger? I don't think so. Goldfinger, they don't go into space. No, not in space, but they're in the jet and he breaks the window and he gets sucked out through the window.

Oh. That's what I mean. I do that, but in space. Okay. get sucked out of his face. Like Goldfinger. Oh, that's good. I'm glad that I didn't just make up why. I thought I just

made up the end. Did you ever film where the guy gets sucked out of the plane? He's like, no. You're insane? I got lost again. What were we talking about? So you just need to guess my man in the chair now. Is it Xavier? No, of course not. Thank God. Is he literally in a chair?

I mean, he's probably sat down at least once in his life. Thank you Has there been any like proper documentation in the comics if I'm ever sitting down I would say

I've probably seen him sat down in a panel before I can't guarantee it I can't guarantee it but I mean just on the balance of probability I would say it's happened so like a smart guy

or the guy pulling the strings he's a smart guy smart guy beast no who else is smart smart guy smart guy that's a good point

we've got a strong guy why don't we have a smart guy whenever I start working at Marvel oh the comics I'm going to write strong guy smart guy and then stupid guy three guys Oh, is that the worst thing I've come up with? I mean, I think it's a pretty good idea compared to some stuff Marvel puts out.

Because they're calling the three guys, though. Yeah, yeah. The three guys. I'm going to write that. And then next time when we do recording, I'm going to read my script for the three guys, my outline. Mm-hmm. So it's going to blow you away, man. I can't wait.

The episode won't be about that at all. It'll be by Katie Perry. Smart guy. Oh, it's a guy. Yes. Okay. A guy who's smart. Canadian?

No. Getting back to her? No. Okay, definitely not Canadian. He's definitely not Canadian. Okay. That's a definitive. So he is American.

Yes. One might even say he is a Native American. Wow. I don't know if we can get away with that. What? Do you mean like Nate Gray? No. I thought that was a Native American bit. No, I mean he's a natural Native American. Okay. I thought I thought that way you said it. I'm like, that's, He's doing a pun here.

That's why we can't get away with it. But if you're literally a Native American, that's fine then. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You smart? This isn't going to make me look good. How many Native American characters are there in Marvel Comics? There's like three that I can think of.

Are all three of them Thunderbird? one's Thunderbird One's warpath Wasn't he Thunderbird? No, it was his brother, wasn't it? Yeah, but didn't he do it to like, I don't know, I don't care about the Thunderbird that'd fucking go into it.

I don't know, tell me who the answer is. It was Forge. Oh, fuck. I picked him. I'm an idiot. That's a shame. Oh, let's do Cori's then, yeah. Okay.

Do you want me to get that one to you? Why not? This is the show. What else would it be? Mm-hmm. How many did he have? He has one, two, three, four, five, six, seven people. Oh, smart.

Okay. Is there any overlap? Yes. Is it Storm? No. He didn't pick, Storm? He didn't.

Wow, the whole basis of us doing this bit. Yeah. Was that we were talking about Storm 17 minutes ago. And then, well, we all picked Storm for a thing. We did, Corey, you lied to us. Because we both were like, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's Storm.

Who else would you pick? Wait, so there is overlap. With a couple of mine, but not with any of yours. He didn't pick Beast? He didn't. He didn't pick Gambit? No Gambit either. Corey, I'm glad you're up in space with Katie Perry.

Because I bet you'd have a great time. With some of yours. Oh, Emma Frost. I bet he picked Emma Frost. Yes, Emma Frost is there. He doesn't love Emma Frost. I guess Gene Gray. Yeah, she doesn't.

And I guess Cyclops right now? I don't know what the state of their relationship is these days. The way I heard it, he was being a bit frosty to her. There's a pun in there somewhere. But I haven't read that recent X-Mexam comics. I don't know if that's true or not. But I don't know if they're not, they're not really like, they're on different teams, right? Yeah, I believe Emma Frost has her exceptional X-Men, whereas Cyclops has his just...

You're just the X-Men, right? Yeah. They don't need a qualifier for it. No, just the fucking X-Man, right? But no, but that would be a qualifier, so it's just... Yeah. Just the X-Men. I thought it was a shame they broke those two up.

Yeah. I thought they were really fun. I admit people like Emma Frost. It made people give a shit about Cyclops, you know? It's so funny that like for so long, Gene Gray and Cyclops were seen as like the X-Men Park couple. And then, you know, was one of those things. Like, you can't spit them up.

That's sacrilegious. And then they did. And then when Amher Frost, and Cyclops got together. And it's such an impact on Cyclops. Like him as a character just like, eclipsed the 20 years that he had before that, even though he was like the leader of the group.

You know, he was just so much more interesting once he was with Amber Frost, and he felt like it. Yeah. He was a really different character, you know? And then somebody in Marvel was like, fuck that. We're going to ruin that one too.

You know? Like, why? Why? What is it with Marvel and just not liking people, be married. Well, I don't know. This is... But you say that, but aren't Cyclops and Gene Gray

back together now as well? So why are they back together whereas, you know, like Peter Parker and Mary Jane aren't allowed to be a couple. But then, what are they doing with Murray Jane, though? Other than making her

venom, which we've talked about previously. But you know what I mean? like if they're so we gotta get Mary Jane away from Peter Parker but we also want to keep using Mary Jane then you're like okay cool but like how are you using her that's better than the way

you were using her. Like if you're that determined to cut them both off but you still want to use Mary Jane come up with someone for what to do that isn't just her becoming venom yeah that's not good it's not good

it's like there's a few years ago during I think it was maybe Bendis's Iron Man run where she became like his personal assistant or you know

something like that and that was like a good use of her because I you know gave her stories separate from Spider-Man but she was still like a pretty prominent character and yeah

thankfully they didn't have a hookup with Tony Stark as well which had just been weird until 20 years time they're going to retcon it but they did. And then Murray Jane

gave birth the twins. Oh no. Not again. Yeah, it all happens all over again. And then the Iron Patriot suit

actually makes sense. So the Red Con that we recond to make that but makes only the Iron Patriot bit the rest of it we're not, but that's fine.

That's perfect. 10 out of 10. But that one bit with a suit, no, we're going to change it so this would make sense. You know? making myself laugh.

I don't, yeah, like, what, what is it about Marvel and just happy relationships? You know what I mean? Like, can't one person just have an okay time? Yeah. You know, like, it's, it has, it's, this is why I'm very trippery issues about rogue and gambit being together, because I'm like, this, it's a time bomb.

if the other ones aren't safe I mean to their credit though they're not safe Rogan gambler not safe they have been married for like I want to say about five years or so now

yeah so you know that's pretty good going I'd say I would say that's good going especially for those two yeah very well you know maybe we shouldn't say this

I'd like though because then maybe Marvel will hear because we know Marvel listens to the show. Yeah. We know this. We've seen the analytics, Marvel. We know you're listening. We've seen the baby juggernaut.

We don't like it. We'll talk to you about that. What the fuck was I talking about? So you're trying to guess Corey's team? Yeah, forget all that late garbage, right? Cut that out. I see what happens when Corey's not here. Yeah.

Just get into adventures. All right, so M. Frost is one. Mm-hmm. He had a strong guy. He didn't. He didn't have a strong guy? Why? Well, hang on.

No, not really. Okay. Not really. Okay. Did he have a beast? He didn't have a beast, no. What's wrong with you guys? What's the wrong with the beast?

Beast. Don't. Yeah. Let's not get into that again. I know what he did. All right. Did he hear a telepath? Emma Frost was a telepath that you already guessed. Great.

That will inch me closer. Did he have Wolverine? No. Interesting. But. He may have had someone that I had on my team, who was Wolverine adjacent. Okay. So technically Wolverine.

Yeah. Because as we established, he was Wolverine. But he specifically referred to as X-23. Okay, good, because he gets it. Okay. I think you're going to struggle with the majority of his team, because there's some out-there picks. He probably picks some weird fucking pigs Um, okay

What's, so that's X23 is like the fighter Mm-hmm Brawler Yeah, I guess you can say that Who, does he have somebody that can fly? Yes Oh, somebody that can fly

What is What would be a good clue for that person? A good clue that doesn't give it away It's a man or woman? It's a man. It's an older gentleman. He likes to wear green. Green.

Green goblin? Banshee? Banshee, yes. You don't sound impressed with it. It's a weird pick, in it? You know? It's Cory's pick, not mine. I mean, it's his list.

You can do what he wants with it. But wouldn't you eat? It's a weird pick, right? I mean, yeah. All right. So that's what, who else have we got? So we have, geez, how do I even give through to any of these? How recent are these characters?

We've got one character. The first character he picked was a member of, of a mutant dynasty, I guess you could say. Or at least he's a mutant. I don't want to use the word brotherhood because that gives the wrong, that will take you down the wrong direction. Okay.

But he's, he's been around for a while. Is this, is this a flyer? No, this, I don't even know what you'd describe him as his role on the team. This is not one you picked for yours. No. Okay.

The ones I picked, I've already been gone, yeah. Okay, so it's just those, okay. They can fly. No, this one can't fly. What does this one do? Shoot stuff, I guess. Not with guns, with powers. Okay.

He comes from like a is it one of the summers brothers yes is it havoc it is yeah okay see that's me trying to get into the mind of Corey he's not going to go for Vulcan because who goes to fuck out Vulcan yeah yeah he's not going to go for the obvious choice

to Cyclops he's going to give a little twist and turn well Corey is a big X Factor fan as well like from back in the day so is that a clue for one of the other ones Yes, it is. Is it multiple man? Yes. Yes, Corey.

You never let me down. One, two, three, four, five. Two more to get. I mean, yeah, these are tough as well. You didn't think I was going to get this far. I know. This has gone way better than I was expecting. Oh, there's two left.

what role would they play, as it were? I don't know. They're all mixed media. So one is, I guess, like, a boost for other members of the team. I think that's the powers. Is it hope? No. No.

what does she do? She does something. Some of the boosts other people's parties. And it's a guy? Oh, wait, no. I don't know what the powers were. It turns out they can absorb electricity

from sources like static in the air, electrical appliances and outlets. And then use that power, like discharge it through powerful lightning like blasts or channel it into bursts of superhuman speed. It's the guy or girl? This is a girl. Girl?

Is Serge a girl? Yes. He picked Serge? He picked Serge. Okay. Interesting. Okay. Last one.

Okay. So I guess. It's sort of elemental powers, I describe it as. Hyderman? No. Elemental powers. But I assume one of the elements isn't water. Oh, no, it's more, I guess, dirt.

Or maybe another word for dirt. Earth? Quake? Was that close? Sort of, I guess. Rather than controlling, this is so tough. Rather than controlling the ground,

they control the ground. Is it Richter? No. Okay. Is it something like Richter? Sort of similar powers. Okay, so I'm getting somewhere closer. Yeah. Sort of similar powers.

Yeah, instead of moving the ground, they move, or they transform into a specific type of substance. so kind of like Hydromand but not anything to do with water okay it's not to do with the grind yeah

who moves well a specific type of ground is this like super obvious like when I get it probably not I think I've butchered this. Okay, but it's not like, it's not like an obvious pick. No, it definitely isn't.

Oh, Corey, you'd never disappoint, man. Let me, do you know what? Just for the sake of it, why don't you tell me who it is? Okay. So the answer was dust. Oh. Wow. Who, yeah.

Yeah. She can turn into sand and do sandstorms and stuff. Yeah. That is elemental. Yeah. That's a good, that's an interesting pick. Yeah. Okay, Corey's team.

Very good. Some good ones on there. So we're very good. I know. Those are pretty good teams. Do you have your alternates there, too? My alternates were Domino, North Star, and Mystique. Okay.

Those are interesting choices. and Quarys was He seems to have loads He has siren He has magic slash colossus He has Forge again Forge turned up

What everybody's fucking bit I know What the hell I thought it was storm And he also had Bishop slash cable So I guess he wanted Like a time traveller on his team

You know what's really interesting about that. There's a couple, you know, when you write or something, well, I say interesting, it's not interesting at all. Like, when we're, like, writing these lists, obviously, it's part of it that we, you can't think of all the X-Men all at once, right? No. And, like, when I was writing

a list, I'm like, I'm pretty happy this list. I can't, and you saw who my alternates were. Mm-hmm. But you also heard me go, why didn't they put this person on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bunch of times. here in this list back now I've got to the end of it I'm like

why didn't I put cable on my list yeah why I put cable or fucking Nick Gray why didn't I put them on my list Bishop I'm like I I get it I don't know but cable yeah

cable's badass right exactly cool as hell he's gonna be gone the size of himself you know I miss I miss that cable do what you mean yeah I miss like real comic bookie, like,

it's just not, what is that? It's just a big mass of nothing with a gun on it, you know? I miss that, it's fun. Cables is fun,

you know? And then now they draw on like all anatomically correct because that's what people want to see. No. You know, big guns. Yeah,

big guns, big shoulder pads. The way God intended. Don't you think that's kind of like Deadpool got really popular to? It's fucking big guns. all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's part of it, definitely.

You know what you mean? Dude, what do people like? Big guns. Who was the last big gun guy? Yeah, it's been a while since we've had one, I guess. They don't do it anymore. They don't want to, like, glamorize guns or whatever. But I get that. No, but at the same time, they're pretty cool.

So it's not our fault we want to have a gun because American media makes it look cool. And cable looked really cool You know Who wouldn't want cable What was But there's a couple of other ones I'm like why didn't I pick that guy Why didn't I pick that guy

There's too many Well yeah This is the issue The X-Men and X-Men Adjacent world Has way too many mutants now It's crazy It's too many

They keep adding more Maybe somebody should do Some sort of event When they get rid of loads of mutants Oh that's a good idea Yeah But who could do it though?

Someone very powerful, possibly with reality warping powers, maybe? Well, they would have to have some sort of relation to the mutants to be able to think of doing this. You would imagine that's some sort of catalyst to it.

Would they be a mutant or just like a mutant adjacent maybe, you know? I mean, maybe we could say they're mutant now and then change our minds. later on down the road. Yeah.

Fucking who cares. Yeah. We'll just make it up. Nobody will know. It's comics. No one really follows this stuff. Yeah. We'll just change it again later if it doesn't work.

Problems. Well, that was a good bit. Yeah. So, hey man, if you're listening to us on Spotify or YouTube, whatever, write down what you think. would be your X-Men list.

Right-time, if we reminded you of some that you didn't remember because some of me were like, why did me say this guy, you know? Right on you think of the best list, it'd be any of us, Stephanie and me. Because I was the one brave enough to put down on my team. You guys are all cowards. That was fun. Do we have anything else we want to say about the lists? I mean

only that we were definitely going to save this for another time and come back to this topic and we've just sort of blown our load this time. Let me argue with this as I was able to pretty accurately remember my list

and as I said there were people I would have put on this list they didn't if I went into this now because this was clearly timestamped three or four years ago if we did it again

no my list would be different would your list be different probably not make it different I mean yeah I would have to make it different now but we could definitely come back to this topic I think we can come back to this and also

I have a feeling nobody's going to watch this one anyway no I mean they're probably wise not too they just they know whenever Corey's are on it's smooth sailing when Corey's not here he loses control of the show you know we're just too easily drawn into a different tangent you know so really it's his fault we think about it yeah come on core what the fuck go on here man um but i like that i think i think we could do uh i think we could come back to that episode for sure mm-hmm i think there's some mileage on that

um who do you think at the best list i mean i am quite partial to my list to be honest Wow, that's interesting Yeah, I'm sorry to shock you, but Well, it's not a shock, I understand, you know But just whenever I was like on the list It's funny, but I really resonated on my list as well I'm like, I feel like that was the best one, you know? Mm-hmm

But we can both agree, not Corey's list I mean, yeah, definitely not Corey's list It's crazy, banshee Surge What's going on? dude you're right you okay talk this story you know we'll always listen uh is that it are we are we done uh i guess so what else uh we could we could talk about kitty perry again oh no not katie perry again i do kind of like how we took half an episode to talk about

like that that thing we did but i would say still a good other half of the episode was kitty perry Yeah, and we couldn't even find a comic either. Well, we will be revisiting the idea of the Katie Perry comic in the near future. You can put your money on that on sportsbatting.org. It's a real website. So I think that's it. Is it? Are you happy enough?

Yeah, I'd say so. We did our best. This was our best. It wasn't good enough, but... What are you going to do? Oh, I hope this is like the last episode where they're like, we couldn't, we couldn't release that. Jibberish all the way through. And then Katie Perry sued us.

We're already in legal trouble as it is, but we're not paying the taxes and stuff. Yeah. That'll be a bad thing. All right, I guess. Should we wrap things up then? Okay. Well, we should shoot over to you and see how many films you've seen this year. So I am up to 3001 movies for 2025.

What was the last one? It was called 99 homes with Michael Shannon and Andrew Garfield, sort of about the big financial crash in 2008 or so. I remember it well. And yeah, basically how they were like buying up all the people's homes that went into foreclosure and kicking them out and making lots of money from it. Ah, that sounds nice. Oh, it was grim.

It sounds like capitalism. Yeah, yeah. Let me ask you a question about your films. You watch, you know, you do this every year. You watch those of films. I assume you're repeating some films, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some that I've watched before, like this 99 homes I'd watch before.

Okay. At the moment, I'm like basing my watches on what's leaving Amazon in the next 30 days. So I'm trying to just beat that before they disappear off Amazon. Okay, that's good. What do you have your eye on next? Let's see. It's probably going to be either horrible bosses too. Or a movie called Before I.

go to sleep which has who's in that that one's not familiar I think it's Colin Firth maybe yeah and Nicole Kidman and Mark Strong as well

okay I'm pretty sure I've seen that before as well but it was a while ago so I can't watch it again yeah why not what's it about I'm guessing something

to do with cars yeah fast cars furious cars yeah oh that sounds like a great film

yeah I can't wait I don't want to watch it though but I will watch it if it goes to 14 different films is it 14? I think we're on 11 11 oh no I think was the last one

10 really I can't remember. It was a fast X. I remember that. Oh, definitely. But it's so hard to tell which one's ways. It's a terrible name. Whoever came up with these names should be

promoted. We'll talk about the Fast Furious films at some other point, I guess. Yeah. Where can people find you and what you're up to? Wait, you didn't shout out your letterbox thing.

Oh, yeah. That is on letterboxed at Big John Bowsky or one word. Nice. Nice. Nobody can find me anywhere. You'll never find me. I've hidden myself in an undisclosed location. And if you find me, you win

4,000 ponds. So please don't find me because I cannot pay that all my money. Also, I don't want anybody looking at me. That's why I hit myself away in the first place. And not because of all the crimes I did. I mean, I'm sure that was part of the reason. A little factor in it. I did a lot of crimes.

So on that note, that's probably a good way to end it, right? Yeah. All the crimes. Yeah. All right. Well, this was a fun episode. Yeah, we, I think we did well. Oh, we nailed it.

We, we nailed it. It's not going to get any better than this. People are going to tune out after this one. Not because this one was so bad, but because it'll never get as good as this. That's what we're going to tell each other, okay? It's because it'll never be as good as this. We've peaked. Yes.

Clearly. Well, that's it. Thank you very much for watching, everybody. We really appreciate it. Follow us on Twitter on Spotify, Smart Avengers. We're not on Instagram, I don't think. We're on Tumblr. Go to Tumblr.

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You know, it would suck if it turns out somebody else to go our fucking name. Oh man, I don't want to Google now and just in case. I hope it's us. Well, we'll do that later.

All right. Well, that's it. Thank you for watching. We appreciate that. And we'll see you in the next episode. Goodbye. Bye-bye. And Corey can just say goodbye from my...

We should get Corey to... Corey added in the sign of you saying goodbye. It's been like a ghosty manner. Okay. Thank you.