The Smark Avengers - Vol 4, Ep 30: $100 Auction: The Most Bizarre Avengers Lineup Yet

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

💸 What happens when you only get $100 to draft an Avengers team… but the roster is limited to the weirdest, most random members from the 80s through the 2000s? Corey, Dylan, and Jon are back for ...another Avengers Draft Auction, and this time the spin of the wheel is serving up names like Darkhawk, Firebird, Stingray, and plenty of other “Wait… they were Avengers?!” characters. With each pick up for auction, the bids stay low, the laughs stay high, and the rosters get increasingly bizarre. Can any of these lineups actually resemble a real Avengers team—or are we just building the worst super-team in Marvel history? 👥 In this episode we cover: Drafting Avengers with only $100 each Obscure Marvel characters you forgot existed Why the 80s–2000s Avengers rosters were so random The struggle to find value in a sea of “meh” heroes Corey, Dylan & Jon debating who’s worth a bid… and who isn’t If you enjoyed our 60s–70s Avengers Draft episode, this sequel cranks the absurdity up to 11. 🔥 Who would YOU waste $20 on—Darkhawk or Stingray? Let us know in the comments! 👉 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell for more Marvel deep dives, comic book debates, and ridiculous draft challenges from the Smark Avengers crew. Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's project "Henry's Usual": https://www.tumblr.com/henrysusual Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Unless I get alopecia and then all my hair falls out. Are you planning on getting alopecia anytime soon? I don't know how you get it. I think it's like it could just. Yeah. Who knows where it's going to come from? I don't think you get it from a toy. I don't think you get it from like eating raw pork or whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Like it's, I don't think it's like that. What if I were like the bold head or something and then all my hair falls out? You think it's contagious like that? It could be. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. We should consult a doctor about this. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:45 So if you're a doctor out there, you want to tell us how someone gets alpecia, please let us know in the comments. Specifically, is it the licking the head of a ball guy? We'll let... We could test this out. John, you have to go to Corey's eyes. Yeah, lick me, John.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I might be a while. Everybody wants to Spark Avengers. My name is Corey with me is Dylan and John. How's it going, guys? I. Still good? That's good to hear. Today, we have one of my favorite kinds of episodes to do, and that is one of our auctions slash, spin the wheels, make a deals, and it is a sequel to an auction we had earlier
Starting point is 00:01:26 this year. I want to say it was April, I think, where we took the original Avengers lineup from the first member to the 30th member, put them on a wheel, spun the wheel. We all had 100 pounds divided amongst us, and we had to draft our Avengers team out of 20 spins of the wheel. So we're going to pick up with that with members 31 to 60. So before we dive into who we had previously, we're going to treat it kind of like, you know, why did Professor Xavier get his new X-Men, the giant in size X-Men because all of his the original guys, they were all captured on
Starting point is 00:02:07 Cricoa, right? So your Avengers lineups that we drafted previously, they've been captured. They have been kidnapped. Crocoa got him. He broke bad again. And we got to form this new Avengers lineup to go save
Starting point is 00:02:23 our previous Avengers. And with that being said, I guess that's going to be the assignment on this one. When all is said and done, will the team you draft be able to save your previous team? Is that, does that sound like a fair agreement?
Starting point is 00:02:39 It does. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. All right. So who wants to remind everybody who was on our previous teams of Avengers? Oh, John, you have him? I have him somewhere. I've got him here. So, on my Avengers team, I had Charlotte Witch, Thor,
Starting point is 00:03:02 Captain America The 2-gun Kid Black Panther Star Fox and Moon Dragon I would say half of that team sounds good half with two-gun kid in I'm assuming
Starting point is 00:03:18 yes the best half oh man the 2-Gun kid got cash with my Coca-Cola what are we going to do how did this happen all right sorry do you want me to do your team filling? Yes. Do you have them? Okay. You had Captain Marvel,
Starting point is 00:03:38 Mantis, Hellcat, Black Widow, Beast, Mockingbird, and Tigra. I was very happy on my team. It was Ladies Night. Ladies' night. Ladies' night. He's came along. Except for Beast. Yeah, Lady Beast. Now you get the X-Man. That's what's coming next. Yeah. And for Corey's team, you had the swordsman Okai Hercules She-Hulk
Starting point is 00:04:09 The Vision and Quicksilver You know It's really funny Because they don't You at the time It felt like There were more people
Starting point is 00:04:19 On our teams But when you read through them like that You go actually no That wasn't a lot of people When you think like 20 people Divide amongst three Isn't a ton No
Starting point is 00:04:28 No No I think they're good sizes For a team They are good sizes for a team Plus, I will say that Dylan's character, Dylan's team has an advantage because this is not the first time Beast has been trapped on Krokoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You know, also my team is awesome. So, yeah. So as we said previously, we have 100 pounds between us. You spend what you got until you got no more or until you get tricked into putting way more money down for somebody than you probably should. We call it the carnage clause. I wasn't tricked. All right. Was it a trick?
Starting point is 00:05:11 It was... You were bamboozled. Yeah, let's go with that. I was taking the bandage of. That's what it was. Oh, okay. John, you should be ashamed yourself. All right, well, let's...
Starting point is 00:05:23 We'll jump over to the wheel here, and we will get started. Okay. All right, well, so folks, we have the 31st person to join the Avengers. which is the thing all the way down to the 60th person to join the Avengers, which is Luke Cage, and everybody in between. Same rules as the last time. We're going to spend 20 times.
Starting point is 00:05:47 There will be 10 people left over that have not been drafted. We will worry about them on a future edition of the show. But until then, this is not our first rodeo. Would you guys like to get started? Or actually, first, how many times do you want to shuffle the order? Four. Four, okay? One, two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:06:16 John, you want the shuffler two? No, I'm okay with four. Okay. All right, so you guys ready to spin? Yes. Yeah. All right, this is our first person up for auction. It is...
Starting point is 00:06:33 Start strong with Moon Knight. Everybody who is not aware, of Moon Knight, Moonnight, Moon Knight joined the Avengers in West Coast Avengers Volume 2, issue number 33 in June of 1988.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Are we all familiar with Moon Knight? Do we need to have a rundown of who he is, his abilities, etc.? Should we do a quick rundown about Moon Knight? Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Sure. Yeah. So Mark Spector was a mercenary who was betrayed and left for dead in front of the altar of Conchew, the Egyptian
Starting point is 00:07:13 God of the Moon and the protector of travelers. He gave his life to Kanshu in a bid for resurrection and came back as his chosen. Something else additional about Moon Knight is he has a multiple personality disorder, so at any time, he will switch between Mark Spector, cab driver, Jake Lockley, movie producer Stephen Grant, and of course his regular persona, Mark. He has some enhancement with, well, I don't know how accurate this is to comics aler, but when the character first debuted, he had an enhancement to his strength and durability in the power, in the full moon.
Starting point is 00:07:55 But aside from that, usually is a expert detective, high-tech gadgets, weapon master, martial artist. A lot of people say he is Marvel's answer to Batman. So, that being said, I will start us off for two pounds on Moon Night. go three I'll go five I go six seven eight nine ten oh okay ten eleven twelve twelve thirteen fourteen all right I think I'll drop out on this and Dylan you want to go any higher than fourteen for moon night I don't think so Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:56 14 once, twice. John, you're on the board with Moon Knight for 14 pounds. Who's tracking? Who has who and money, by the way? I've got a spreadsheet. Oh, perfect. All right. We have removed Moon Knight from the board.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We have 19 spins left. So, let's go and spin again. Okay. So up next, we have some royalty with Crystal of, the Inhumans. Crystal joined in Avengers number 343 in January of 1992. As we stated before, Crystal is one of the royal family members of the Inhumans. So she has inhuman physiology, superhuman strength, speed, durability, agility, etc.
Starting point is 00:09:49 She can also manipulate the elements. So air, wind, earth, fire, water, electricity, all sorts of stuff. Plus, she can fly. And I'll throw in a caveat, you also get access to Lockjaw. Just because Lockjaw is fun to have a round. So I will open up our bidding for two pounds on Crystal. Three. Go five.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Ah, John. Uh, six. Seven? Eight. Ten. Ten? Okay. Eleven.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I said Justice John said he was out, so Mike could have played that easier. So I'm at 11. Dylan, are you willing to go to 12? yes okay um okay 12 once twice crystal goes to dylan for 12 part of that was to get the dog
Starting point is 00:11:03 yeah like I wanted to throw in lockjaw because I feel like anytime crystal was ever around when I was a kid whether it was the fantastic four cartoon or the comics lockjaw was always with her so I just felt like that should be a given also no it's ladies night again it's ladies night again we so far but will it continue to be ladies night when we add luke cage uh luke cage joins us he is the most recent member that we added here uh luke added to the avengers and new avengers number three in march of 2005 so uh what do we know about
Starting point is 00:11:45 luke cage luke cage has huber superhuman strength durability stamina he has a bit of a healing link factor and a skilled hand-to-hand combatant. Also, one of Brian Michael Bendis' favorite characters. So, I will go ahead and again, start us off at two pounds. Four pounds. I'll go five. I'll go seven. I'll go eight.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I'll go ten. Eleven. Twelve. Twelve. Twelve once. Twice. All right, we'll go Luke C. 12 to John so we'll take Luke Cage off the board you know sweet Christmas that's not
Starting point is 00:12:45 a bad thing that what's annoying is I might have had I'm like I could make ladies night work again but then I have the real problem where I don't know who a lot of the ladies are gonna be and this could significantly backfire on me but we'll see like a big bruiser you know big powerhouse women of team so I may be able to pick somebody there's a couple on here I think speaking of big powerhouses though up next we have the thing it's Benjamin grim who joined the Avengers officially in west coast Avengers volume two issue number nine in June of 1986 we all know Benjamin Grimm's deal right we don't really need to dive into it but it's case you don't uh cosmic rays altered his
Starting point is 00:13:33 biology to give him a rocky exterior enhancing his strength and his durability as such. Let's go ahead and start off the thing with five, just because it's the thing. This one's going to be expensive, isn't it? Might be. Seven. Seven. Eight.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Nine. Wow. I could stole them for eight. 13. 14. 15. 16. 16 once.
Starting point is 00:14:13 16 twice 17 okay Dylan's back in with 17 16 seems cheap for the thing it does seem but it's only our fourth like spin on the wheel though you gotta think about it that way too yeah
Starting point is 00:14:30 it sucks because I was like there's probably be a lady that's a big part house and then the thing came up and I'm like oh man you gotta have to have been you have to have Benram alright 17 once 17 twice 17 to Dylan I mean I'm happy but that's a pretty good team so far if you think about it
Starting point is 00:14:52 mhm crystal on the thing that they work really well together they work really well together they were almost kind of brother and sister-in-law yeah but you know who also goes well with them up next we have the invisible woman
Starting point is 00:15:15 Sue Storm Richards she joined the Avengers and Avengers number 300 in February of 1989 Same origin story as Benjamin Grimm, except instead of getting a rocky heart exterior, Sue got the ability to make herself invisible and to create force fields. I'll start us off at two pounds again. Five. I'll go six. I'll go eight.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh, I'll go 11. 13? 14. 15. 16. It's getting too much for me. I know. But you'd be really good, but I don't want to get all the fantastic four in my team.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Well, good news, you can't because Johnny Storm's not here. Are we on, we on 16? We are on 16, yes. I'll go 17. Okay. Okay, 17 once. Twice. Johnny are you going to take the as a woman for 17.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Please. I cannot wait to see all the people that Corey's going to be left with. Oh, we're picking up some heavy hitters so far. Yeah, but I mean, I've seen a lot of names on here. I'm excited about for all the wrong reasons. Yeah. I always do terrible on this, so I'm fine with it. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Up next, we have Dark Hawk. Dark Hawk who joined in West Coast Avengers number 94 in May of 1993. Dark Hawk is a character who has a lot going for him. Energy blast, energy shield, Stargate creation, teleportation, mysticism, flight, night vision, claw cables, accelerated healing factors, superhuman strength, reflexes, stamina, agility, he's adaptive. He can transform, he can alter his size, and he can generate weapons. He is one of the 90s, like, super cosmic characters they tried to create. The character never really caught on despite their attempts to get Dark Hawk going. He debuted in his own comic with an issue number one, which that says a lot about Marvel's attempt to get him going.
Starting point is 00:17:53 So I will start us off with two pounds for Dark Hawk. Three. Four. I'll go five. Six. I mean, he does sound really powerful, doesn't he? Yes. He's a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. I'll go eight. Eight once. Twice. Okay. Sold to Dylan. That's interesting. Well,
Starting point is 00:18:44 I didn't think that was going to have it. All right. Here we go. Not like the big silence after I said eight. I'm like, you guys can try me out. Okay. We have got, we've got demolition man. Demolition man who joined, well, he joined the event.
Starting point is 00:19:09 injures in an issue, Captain America. Captain America number 349 in January of 1989. Demolition Man has, he's a skilled aircraft pilot, expert hand-to-hand combatant, got some superhuman strength, stamina, and durability, and also inherited parts of Daredevil and Wolverine's costumes. Later went on to become Scourge of the underworld. A lot of people aren't very happy about that storyline though. So, we'll start it. By the way. Yeah. People didn't care for him becoming scourge of the underworld.
Starting point is 00:19:44 We'll start him off with number two pounds for a demolition man. I go three. I thought, yeah, I thought I remember having like a weak spot for this character, John. That wasn't he a wrestler as well. I believe he was. Wasn't he also the scourge of the underworld or did I make that up? I remember that was a huge reveal and people were so pissed. But three pounds going once.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Twice sold a John for three pounds Oops Sweet All right next up we have Boy I hope you guys are hoping to get to that island one or another because we got Stingray Stingray joined the Avengers in Stingray when did you join the Avengers buddy You joined in Avengers number 319 as a reserve member and
Starting point is 00:21:00 July of 1990. So some would say not a full member, but what are you going to do? He has an exoskeleton battle suit that grants him superhuman strength of durability. The ability you shoot electricity out of his gloves. He can glide through the air. He has enhanced swimming speed.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And he has some protection against radiation. He's an inventor of some ocean graphic equipment. He's an experienced oceanographer, and he has a gifted intelligence. I will start us off at two pounds for Stingray. Three. I'll go four. I was like somebody's going to win Stingray. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:49 All right, so that's going to be four going once, twice, sold to me for four pounds. Can I just put something on the record real quick? Yes. So start this off. John's first pick Moon Knight Yes Very popular character
Starting point is 00:22:08 You know Has his own TV show Big, big name My first character was Crystal You know big Part of the Humans and Fantastic Four And involved with that lot
Starting point is 00:22:18 Your first pick was Stingray Yeah Who has done nothing Hey You gotta get to the island You know And he's gonna swim there To be fair
Starting point is 00:22:30 You paid four pine for him So like fair enough You know I did. I didn't break the bank. I would have only spent two, but you got cheeky on me. In terms of money, in terms of bargains, you're doing great. Yeah, we'll get to that, and we'll get to that a couple more spins where we currently are. I feel so.
Starting point is 00:22:50 There'll be a lot of bargains coming up. Oh, I imagined. All right, coming up next, though, we have the Forgotten One, aka Gilgamesh of Mesopotamian lore. Gilgamesh joined the Avengers in Avengers 300 in February of 1989. Coincidentally enough, joined at the same issue as Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Woman. He has superhuman strength, stamina, agility, reflexes, durability, a healing factor, the ability to fly. You can shoot beams out of his eyes, and he has repressed aging and immunity to disease. He is a member of the Eternals.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So I will start us off at two pounds for Gilgamesh of Mesopotamian fame. Two pounds going once. Twice. I've got Gilgamesh. Congratulations. Thank you. I was a hard-fought victory. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So the next one's going to be our 10th pick, right? And then we will do a quick recap. I'll kind up to how much money we have left as well yes so yeah we'll do a run out of how much more do you I've lost count but you've been it's been flying out it's been flying away it's you got to be more responsible you know yeah
Starting point is 00:24:22 all right here we go up next we have firebird a.k.a. Espirita Bonita Juarez who joined West Coast of is volume 2 number 24 in September of 1987 as a reserve member. Firebird has an immunity to poison, radiation, and demonic magic. She is a precog, she can control fire, she's immortal, and she can fly. She is characterized as a human mutate.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So, I'll start us off at two pounds for Firebird. Three? I'll go four. Five. I'll go six. I'm going to let John have a crack at a night. no that's all right okay well I didn't try all right all think six yeah right six going once twice sold to me firebird oh the hits just keep on coming for you don't they do they do all right so we've reached our our halfway point we're kind of blitz blazing through this we should probably slow down a little bit and uh you know kind of enjoy this a little bit further more a little bit more but quick recap who is on whose team would you
Starting point is 00:25:55 want me to do the team so I can do the money okay yeah yeah okay so John has got moon night Luke Cage visible woman and the demolition man pretty good team always a lot of bases I have crystal thing and dark hawk pretty good Over some bases. Gorey has Stingray, Gilgamesh, and Firebird. So, you know. Land water and air. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 All of the... But you got air and fire. Yeah. So, you know... I think she's... All you need is love. I just need love, which there's none on the steam so far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It's the same. Yeah, who's going to be, which one of these Avengers would you say is, is heart? It's literally a jack of hearts on the wheel, so. Oh, that's perfect. Corey, you got to get, got to do it. Oh, you're not, I'm not even joking. I would love to get jack of hearts. Don, do the carnage thing on him. Yeah, do the carnage thing. I'm just waiting until I roll into having, like, Spider-Man's on the board, and I have 70 pounds left.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I know. I'm not looking forward to that. Is this the slow play? Was this, was this Corey, like, trying to... No, it's just, it's just a situation of, like, sometimes you just get a feel. There's just, like, some characters... No, I just really wanted Gilgamesh. Yeah, well, so always I have Gilgavish, you know. Nobody has to have Gilgamesh.
Starting point is 00:27:31 We could have just had, like, took him off the board and just rolled again. I feel like that goes against the spirit of what we do. You really didn't have to pick Gilgamesh. So, John, do you want to recap on how much money everyone has left? Okay, dokey. So I have 54 pounds left to spend. Dylan, you have 63 pounds left to spend. And Corey, you have 88 pounds left to spend.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I thought I was still in the 90s. Not quite. All right, well, we have 10 more picks to go. we've got 20 names left on the board some heavy hitters in here there's a lot of head scratchers but we got some heavy hitters left so again 10 names are going to get left on the board we'll roll well not roll we'll spend another five times and we'll do another one of these recaps and we'll kind of go from there all right our next name on the bill is rage now before I even get into it. Do you guys know who Rage is?
Starting point is 00:28:48 No. I'm pretty sure I've encountered him before, but I may need a reminder of his backstory and whatnot. All right. Well, Rage, whose real name is Elvin Darrell Halliday. You can see why he
Starting point is 00:29:03 went by Rage. He joined in the Avengers number 329 in February 1991 as a reserve member. Rage originally showed up in, well, no, he He eventually showed up in the Avengers, but more prominently is a member of the new Warriors. He's a skilled street fighter. He has superhuman strength, speed, durability, and a resistance to injury, and his ability
Starting point is 00:29:26 to leap great distances. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he's a teenager that when he transforms, he gets an adult-like appearance, a little like Captain Marvel from the DC side of things. So, we'll start us off at two pounds for rage. If we bid for him, do we get that bird? in the background? I think the bird might actually belong to Falcon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I have the bird. Did you draft Falcon previously, or is he one of our undrafted people? I don't know if he have got Falcon yet, but I want the bird. All right, well, we've got two pounds on rage. You wouldn't like to go to three. I'd go to three. Kind of want the hole, despite all my rage. I'm still just a rat in a cage.
Starting point is 00:30:25 like having the Luke Cage and Rage on the same team. Oh, the Lill Cage connection. Yeah. There's even a sickly bald man on this, so you can even get the full Billy Corgan experience if Dr. Druid comes up. We've got, I'll go four for Rage. Yeah, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Well, you didn't look for your thing that much. It wasn't that kind of thing. You know, it was a nice idea. No. All right. four going once twice I'll take rage for four but you lucky kid I know right I just hide some guy need to hide get out of here rage be nice to reach he's part of your team now yeah but he's the kid I'm gonna I'm gonna have other
Starting point is 00:31:21 characters bully him up next though we have a character that I was fucking befuddled by Silverclaw Silver Claw who Maria day Guadalupe Santiago, who joined the Avengers and Avengers Volume 3, issue number 30 in July of 2000 as a reserve member. Silverclaw has the ability to change into various metal wear animal forms. So imagine turning into like a werewolf or a wear jaguar, but you're also made of metal. I will start us off at two pounds for Silverclaw. That's all the backstory she gets. She says, okay, one time she turned up and also she can be metal.
Starting point is 00:32:02 But that's it. Weird's got a better back story. Would you say two? Yeah. I'm going to go three. I'll go four. I go five. You go five?
Starting point is 00:32:21 No, everybody wants metal. Oh, man. I don't know I could steal this. All right. So the bids at six. Six once. I don't think I'm going to go any.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Six twice. I'll take Silverclaw Silver Claw Okay It's a hell of a team Corey See I'm going for that Traditional I'm in that traditional
Starting point is 00:32:56 90s Avengers feel Speaking of 90s Avengers We've got Circe Circe joined the Avengers In Avengers number 314 In February of 1990 Circe is also an eternal
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like Gilgamesh She has superhuman strength, speed, agility, reflex, and stamina, and durability. She can manipulate matter on a molecular and atomic level. She can manifest cosmic energy as any form of electromagnetism, heat, light, electricity, etc. She's telepathic. She's invulnerable. She's telekinetic. She's immortal.
Starting point is 00:33:30 She can fly and she can teleport. So a lot going on for Circe. So I will start us off at two pounds for Searcy. What was your bet? Two. I'm going to go five. I'll go six I'll go seven I'll go nine and 11 13 14 I'm gonna pass okay 14 going once twice dang it sold to me for 14 dang it used to be you've been cleaning up the last couple
Starting point is 00:34:26 characters and he's still got more money to spend than I had a feeling it would happen I was try to be like strategic. I'm like, get him to spend a little bit more money so we're not totally fucked, you know. All right. This one might generate some activity between you guys. Coming up next, we have the Sandman, uh, joined as an Avenger in Avengers 329 February in 1991. Same issue as rage also as a reserve member. So we all know Flint Marco's deal. He can transform and manipulate his body into sand, uh, he can fly as sand apparently. I thought that was an interesting thing. I guess if the wind just picks you up and carries you, that's flying. But yes, size manipulation, mass manipulation, he can form his body into shapes and what have you.
Starting point is 00:35:13 We'll go ahead and start us off at two pounds for the Sandman. I'll go five. Seven. Eight. Ten. Eleven. Thirteen. I think I'm good.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Okay. 13 once, twice, sold it on for 13. Simon's a good pick, though. Oh, yeah. Why was the pick between Simon and Ridge? I think I'm gonna,
Starting point is 00:35:54 I think I would pick Saman. You know? All right, well, up next, real name X-51. It's Machine Man who joined the Avengers and West Coast Avengers number 69 as a reserve member. Machine Man is, of course, an Android.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And he has the, superhuman strength, speed, durability, reflexes, and accuracy. His arms and legs can extend. He can fly by using anti-gravity disks and he has various weapons installed into his body. I'll go ahead and start us off of two pounds for Machine Man. I'll go five. Six? Seven.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Eight. Nine? Nine once. Twice. So the load for nine pounds. I just thought it would be really. cool to have like a guy with like stretchy arms. Wouldn't that be cool?
Starting point is 00:37:06 You know? So are we now five spins remaining? Yes. All right. Well, let's go ahead and do another recap. What are our teams looking at? Okay. So I'll go with the Johns.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Moon Knight, Luke Cage, Invisible Woman, Demilition Man and Sandman. Not a whole lot of change there. Sam, I got out of. Mine is Crystal Thing. Dark Hawk and Machine Man. Not a whole lot of change there. It's really one machine added.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Corey's is nice. Stingray, Gilgamesh, Firebird, Ridge, Silverclaw, and Circe. Some of those were good deals. You had to fight for Circe. I had to fight for Circe. So speaking of fighting,
Starting point is 00:37:56 what is our dollar figures like going into our last five spins? So, I have 41 pounds left to spend. Dylan has 54 pounds left to spend. And you, Corey, have 64 pounds left to spend. I think this is the most amount of money we've had going into the final five, which really says a lot about the period between like 1985 and 2005 for the Avengers, I think.
Starting point is 00:38:32 possible that we're all saving our money for somebody. Speaking, speaking of saving our money for someone, we have 15 names left on the wheel, but we're only going to pick five of them at random. And those remaining 15, we have Spider-Man, Dr. Druid, Ant-Man, Scott Lang,
Starting point is 00:38:49 Living Lightning, U.S. agent, Jack of Hearts, Justice, Quasar, the Lee Kelsey version of Captain Britain, Thunderstrike, the Jim Hammond Human Toy.
Starting point is 00:39:02 porch, the Julia Carpenter Spider Woman, Mr. Fantastic, Firestar, and Triathlon. So, we did you see
Starting point is 00:39:12 triathlon top up. It's going to be triathlon. We do have a tendency of having a real bummer for our last spin, don't we?
Starting point is 00:39:21 So on the climax. Every single fucking time. All right. Well, might as well just do the damn thing. You spin
Starting point is 00:39:31 that weird kid's face. All right, so we've got... He's not Johnny Storm, he's the original Human Torch, Jim Hammond, who joined the Avengers in West Coast Avengers number 50 in November of 1989. He first appeared in Marvel Comics issue number one, going all the way back to October of 1939. He fought in World War II, but, yes, he is an android who is self-sustaining and is an expert street fighter. he could fly and manipulate and resist fire. So, a bit of a legacy character. And we'll start us off at two pounds.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I'll go three. Four. Five. Six? Six once. No, I'm out. Six twice. That went up higher than I thought was good.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I will take the human torch, Jim Hammond, for six pounds. There you go. We got four more spins to go. fellas. Oh boy. He'll make it a good one. He is a name. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Joining the Avengers in... What exactly did? Oh, yep. Avengers, Volume 3, issue number 62 in February of 2003, a lot later than you would think, but it is Scott Lang, the Ant Man. This is probably the most well-known Ant Man these days because of Paul Red's portrayal, but of course, you know, size manipulation can communicate to ants, et cetera. We'll start us off at
Starting point is 00:41:30 two pounds for Scott Lang. I'll go to three. Go five. Six? Seven? Seven? Oh. No. He's wanting to go to seven. Eight. Okay. John has eight.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I think I'm good. Sure. Yeah. Eight once. Twice. Scott Lang has gone to John at eight. All right. We got three spins left. Again, as a reminder, we have Triathlon, Spider-Man, Dr. Druid, Living Lightning, U.S. agent, Jack of Hearts, Justice, Quasar, Captain Britain, Thunderstrike, Spider-Woman, Mr. Fantastic, Firestar, and Triathlon. We're going to get Firebird and Firestar and Sims.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's Kim, aren't we? No, we got Thunderstrike. Thunderstrike, who is Eric Masterson, who was a substitute. for Thor when he was no longer able to lift Mjolnier, he had joined the Avengers in issue number 343 in January of 1992. As Thunder Strike, he is formidable hand-to-hand combatant, highly skilled architect, because that comes in handy. Superhuman strength, speed, agility, durability, reflexes, and endurance can fly, can travel through dimensions, and can shoot energy blasts out of his mace slash hammer.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I will start off at two pounds for Thunderstrike. I will go to four. I go six. Seven? Eight. Ten? Ten once. Eleven.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Eleven once. Twice. Dylan has Thunderstrike for 11. So last time John got Thor. So this time I got kind of a Thor. You got kind of Thor. So basically Thor. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:59 We have two more spins left. All right. Again, Justice, Quasar, Captain Britain, Spider-Woman, Mr. Fantastic, Firestar, Triathlon, Spider-Man, Dr. Druid, Living Lightning, U.S. Agent, and Jack of Heart. And we have Spider-Woman. Spider-Woman. She has Spider-Womanxed her. She has Spider-Chioman. She has Spider-Phersonology, which grants her superhuman strength, speed, agility,
Starting point is 00:44:39 stamina and durability, she can crawl on walls. She has the ability to create webs out of psychokinetic energy. She has a healing factor. She's clairvoyant, pre-cognitive, and has a level of telepathy. We will start off at two pounds for Spider-Woman. I'll go to three. Go four? I'll go five.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Go seven. I'll go to eight. I will go to ten. I didn't want to go to 10. I'm going to go to 11. I'll go 13. I'm taking a gamble that this might be the
Starting point is 00:45:35 only spider we get. I know. 14. 15. Oh. No, I think I'm good. All right, 15 going once. Twice.
Starting point is 00:45:56 John, you get Spider Woman for 15 pounds. I mean, for the record, only two other people got something for more than 15. Yeah, I was about to say. I think John paid 15 for The Thing. So, you know. Which is not a bad way to recap this. So we are going into our final spin. There's 11 names left on the board.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Only one is going to be taken as a quick recap. Who has what and how much money is left. John's team is now Moon Knight, Luke Cage, Invisible Woman, Demolition Man, Sandman, Scott Lang's Ant Man, and Spider Woman. There's a pretty stacked
Starting point is 00:46:40 lineup, you've got to say. Mine's Crystal, Thing, Dark Hawk, Machine Man, and Thunderstrike, which is maybe less bombastic. But could be worse, though. It could be my team.
Starting point is 00:46:56 that I'm Corey Steve is Stingray, Gilgamesh, Firebird, Ridge, Silverclaw, Circe, and the Jim Hammond Human Torch. So definitely a mixed bunch there. It's true. I've got Eternals. I've got people who control elements.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I got a guy who can go underwater. All right, John, how much money does everybody have left going into this final spin? Okay, doke-doke. I have 18. pounds left to spend Dylan has 43 pounds and
Starting point is 00:47:35 Corey has 58 pounds I still have over half my money Christ oh boy all right funny we're going to be Fire Star
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yep Firestar is going to be coming right up But anyway yes So much fire All right so we have 10 we have 11 names left on the board 10 are going to get left behind.
Starting point is 00:48:01 So this final spin, it could be Mr. Fantastic, Firestar, Triathlon, Spider-Man, Dr. Druid, living lightning, U.S. agent, Jack of Hearts, Justice, Quasar, and Captain Britain. We have a notorious reputation of the final spins always being a massive letdown. So this may or may not be the time to get Spider-Man. May or may not be. I'm going to get triathlon. I'm so excited to get triathlon. I got so much money left.
Starting point is 00:48:34 All right. Here we go. Final spin. You go, you weird face kid. Dylan, you willed it into existence. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. Triathlon, who joined the Avengers in Avengers Volume 3,
Starting point is 00:48:53 issue number 27 in April of the year 2000. Triathlon has superhuman strength and speed, the ability to see scrolls in their original form and a regenerative healing factor. That is probably the most unique and specific power we have seen all day. He can fucking catch a scroll in no time. Sniff him right out. It would be useful.
Starting point is 00:49:17 On Kokoa, yeah, definitely. Yeah, the funny that still exists. Also known as the 3D man, by the way. I think we've talked about him previously. You have talked to the 3. All right, well, we'll go ahead and start our bidding off. at two pounds. I'm going to go three.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Now we're talking. Give me that triathlon. Three going once. Twice. Give me that 3D man. Sold to Dylan for three. All right. Well, unfortunately, that means these 10 heroes,
Starting point is 00:49:58 these 10 bold and brave heroes, we're left behind undrafted, Firestar, Spider-Man, Dr. Druid, Living Lightning, U.S. agent, Jack of Hearts, Justice, Quasar, Captain Britain, and Mr. Fantastic. We'll do our final rundown if who is on everybody's team. One second, let me get off of the wheel.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Bye-bye, weird face, kid. Miss him. Miss up, boy. Oh, really, because he's scary. All right, well, thanks for joining me here from the wheel. We do our final recap. of our teams Dylan when you have an opportunity you got it boss so uh John has got moon night Luke Cage invisible woman demolition man Sandman Scott Lang's Antman and Spider
Starting point is 00:50:53 Woman I have Crystal the Thing Dark Hawk Machine Man Thunderstrike and Triathlon people are gonna be like what triathlon but no scrolls of my team and then Stingray Gilgamesh Firebird Silverclaw, Circe, and the Jim Hammond's human torch are for Corey. So, yep. I think clear winner of today's game, Corey. Thank you. It's saved the most money.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah, John, actually, how much did we all finish up with? So I ended up with 18 pounds left over. Dylan had 40 pounds left over, and you had 58. left over. Honestly, I think this might be the lowest bidding we've ever done on a draft. And I say this because this is our shortest draft we've ever done. Like, I was paying attention to what time we started and not even an hour has passed. I mean, what the fuck we had fucking...
Starting point is 00:52:01 We didn't have a lot. We didn't have a lot. That's why I said, if anything just tells you how fucking weird, the Avengers lineup was between 1985 and 2005. that we were really struggling for people that we gave a damn about. We got a couple of people we gave a damn about, but they just didn't turn it up on the fucking wheel. Which is like when we did the JLA drafted, and Batman went undrafted because he didn't come up on the wheel.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Well, you said that the last one, Iron Man didn't come up. Iron Man? He's a pretty big one in the Avengers. Pretty big. Pretty big. So at some point we're going to do a redemption wheel where the 10 that from each of these that didn't get picks going to go on one and then we'll draft from there and that one's going to be full of heavy hitters
Starting point is 00:52:48 by the sound of it because it's going to have Spider-Man and fucking Iron Man and shit. Do what we should do? What should we do? I don't know, John, do you have like the spreadsheets of like all of the money that we've done from all these other drafts? Yeah, I've still got the total from the previous ones. If we're doing the Avengers ones, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:12 and we do like what you reckon we'll do another two at least another one Avengers yeah we could probably do another two or three and then after that we do like the wheel were like all the other ones that we didn't pick go into one big wheel or maybe split that into two or three yeah so what we should do is whatever money we didn't spend on like all the Avengers ones like rolls over into our hundred pounds yeah you start off with a hundred pounds also the money you didn't spend so Corey is fucking cleaning up with
Starting point is 00:53:42 in this one. So you have your 100 points, but then that gets added on top as well. So now you're playing a strategic, like, chess, you're like, I gotta save my money for the end, or should I spend my money not to get a good Avengers team for this one, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:57 That's a good idea. Although I wish I'd known this before I'd spend all this money this time around. Yeah, what do you mean? You got... You actually got a pretty good team. Ant-Man. I didn't want, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:54:13 your team is pretty good mine was the best team i think yours is the best team i don't think any of these teams would be great at rescuing uh avengers from crocoa though i don't think these are like heavy hitting teams we're that team what if that team that like vulcan was part of between the crocoa's story yeah because you just got wiped out and then Xavier just made everyone forget that that happened what if right what if um Instead of Quakoa, it was like a scroll invasion. Which of the teams would be best to, like, save the teams if there was a scroll invasion? You couldn't tell who was real and who wasn't real.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Just who did he, what do you guys think? Is it still John's team or? I feel like you have a good advantage. Yeah, I have the thing. You have the thing, yeah. You can grab a scroll and throw them real hard. Yeah. Didn't the machine man just look at them and go, yeah, that's not a real person?
Starting point is 00:55:11 You would think machine man would have an ability. that. I trust her. All right, anybody that was watched this show, first of all, good luck. Second of all, put in the comments who you think had the best team, or
Starting point is 00:55:25 who you would have spent your money on. It's like, we would, I mean, on a different day, boy, we could have had a real fucking fight to get Stingray, you know, just if the wind was a little different. It could have went a different way. But let us know who you
Starting point is 00:55:41 think won and why you think it was John. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, the next time we do this, these are some of the names that'll be on the wheel. And you'll see a marked difference, I'm sure, in our competitiveness. Wolverine, Century, Doctor Strange, Bucky Barnes,
Starting point is 00:55:59 uh, Nova, Red Hulk, Daredevil, Captain Britain Brian Braddock, Agent Venom, havoc, cannonball, uh, rogue,
Starting point is 00:56:13 uh, Blue Marvel, Power Man, you know, significantly more interesting characters. Sabretooth is on the fucking wheel, too. Like I said, I mean, Deadpool, the next time we do this wheel,
Starting point is 00:56:31 I think we'll see a very big difference between this one and that one. A lot more competitiveness. Deadpool? Oh. Yeah, Deadpool. you know what's gonna happen to him can you imagine they fucking
Starting point is 00:56:49 game me and John are gonna be playing to get dead because the Spider-Man one didn't work out in our favor no it didn't but like I said Sabretooth, Wolverine yeah there's a good there's a healthy little bit of them
Starting point is 00:57:05 yeah yeah Rogue oh it's gonna be tough it'll be much That's the one you want to do. See, like I said, what we've learned is that 1985 to 2005, bit of a dire time
Starting point is 00:57:21 for the Avengers lineups. They already fucked us. Yeah, it gets a lot more interesting in 2005 after the Disney acquisition, and somebody had the bright idea of, like, hey, maybe we should put our most popular characters on this team book. Who'd have thought?
Starting point is 00:57:37 A knot Silver Claw? Yeah. I have to keep looking at this. of terrible names because I keep forgetting who they are. Just look at my list. I mean, the answer is yes. You know the answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I know the answer is yes. You picked it. I did. Somebody had to. So, John, real quick, what did you count out? Mm-hmm. I am now up to 746 for the year. 746, nice.
Starting point is 00:58:12 You were on pace to break 1,000, aren't you? I think so. It's stuck in pretty good so far. What was your most recent one? I actually rewatched Sin City for the first time in about 15 years. Oh dear, how was that? I mean, it's visually and stylistically, like, still a pretty impressive movie. But, like, I was a bit, yeah, I found it a bit cringy. all this sort of hyper-realized violence and ridiculous dialogue and like just the general
Starting point is 00:58:57 misogyny and stuff and it's just like well yeah okay it plays a bit more as like a teenage boys fantasy now rather than an actual good movie but i mean i still quite enjoyed it just because of the aesthetics more than anything else. To me, nothing disappointed me more than Frank Miller's take on the spirit. I remember him making a big deal about how this was his tribute to Will Eisner, and I was like, boy, I don't know if Will Eisner would have felt the same way about that
Starting point is 00:59:33 if he did when his creation, we did. Indeed. So, Dylan, actually real quick, though, John, if someone wants to see a more in-depth review, of Sin City by you Where can they go to read that? If they head to letterbox They can find me and
Starting point is 00:59:53 At Big John Bowsky Ormward There you go Uh Dylan, what are you up to during the week? On Mondays Monday nights, I do a radio show from 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock UK time
Starting point is 01:00:08 On Bynce Digital Radio.comode.uk You listen to it around the world you listen to it underwater or in space, I assume. I haven't been to either of those places that test that, test that, because I'm on the show, so I can't test it. But we play a lot of music that I like, and I never play music I don't like. So if you like the music that I like, you're in for a treat.
Starting point is 01:00:34 That's on Mondays. And then sometimes if I have free time, I try to stream some art stuff. That's just whenever you have to follow me to find out when that is. at Spooky LaRoe on Twitch. All right. I also have a couple of things I do on the side. I have my other podcast, Large Old Cup, which is usually Saturdays or Sundays.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I also have started a new writing project called Henry's Usual. There is a link to that in the description. It is a, basically it's a letter format of a guy named Henry, who is a washout from Generation X, kind of just doing a deep dive into his ongoing enwee. I also have another writing project. I'm kind of in the works of getting started. We'll see how that goes.
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