The Smark Avengers - Vol 4, Ep 9: WrestleMania 41 Review: Smarks Talk Winners, Losers & WTF Moments
Episode Date: April 26, 2025WrestleMania 41 is in the books, and the Smark Avengers are breaking down EVERY match, moment, and surprise from both nights! From title changes to returns, from dream matches to downright confusing b...ooking decisions — we’re here with uncensored reactions and spicy smark-level takes. 💥 Night 1 & Night 2 Breakdown 🎤 CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Roman Reigns, Rhea Ripley, The Rock — we cover them ALL 📉 What worked, what didn’t, and what left us speechless 🧠 Deep dives into storytelling, long-term booking, and what it means for WWE’s future Whether you're a hardcore wrestling fan, casual viewer, or just love watching people argue over finishers, this is the WrestleMania 41 recap you’ve been looking for. 👊 Hit LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and drop your WrestleMania hot takes in the comments — which match stole the show? Who got buried? And where does WWE go next? #WrestleMania41 #WrestleManiaRecap #WWE #CodyRhodes #CMPunk #RomanReigns #WWENews #SmarkAvengers #WrestlingPodcast #WrestlingReview #WWEReaction #WrestleMania41Night1 #WrestleMania41Night2 #WrestlingFans #WrestleManiaMoments #ProWrestlingAnalysis #WWEHotTakes
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cori's a list name no i just don't know he's looking at pictures of naked ladies
yep that's the intro yep
hi everybody welcome spark adventures my name is cori with me is dillon and john guys how's it
going hi hi hi yeah not bad not bad
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how was your trip to the moon
oh yeah
well you didn't know
you didn't go
all the way
to the moon
no
but did you
did you
so that means
he didn't bring us
back any cheese
I did not bring you back
any cheese
um
did you bring us to anything
no
you've been not
been not been good
little boys
this whole year
so I did not bring you
my gifts
I don't know
if you can
authentically say that.
I don't know. You haven't
watching us 24-7.
That's true.
Not until the spy cameras get installed.
Well, you won't be able to look through them.
It's only for Elon Musk.
Oh, okay, got it.
So, everybody, welcome to Spark Avengers.
We already did the intro aspect of it.
Nah, we're going to keep it.
So, a year ago,
we did a very not comic related episode
because as you may or may not know
our name is a play on words
so for those uninitiated
do you guys want to explain what Smart Avengers actually mean
over a year of doing the show we're finally going to explain the name
well it's self-explanatory to us I guess
smart Avengers is because
there was a team called the Dark Avengers
and then we are the SMARK Avengers
to play off that.
Smark is like a wrestling term
to mean smart mark,
which really just means Mark
if we're being honest with ourselves.
But we've convinced
wrestling fans have convinced themselves
that they know more than the regular mark
and therefore they're better
and therefore they're smarts.
And that's us.
We're all Restive fans.
We're all comic fans.
So it was a good way to mix the two
things together.
And then we have spent,
I don't know, 15 years
just talking about comics
and not really
delving into the wacky world of professional wrestling.
And it's hard to know whether or not our audience likes that or not, because we don't have
an audience.
Well, we've only done the one wrestling episode.
But real quick, to explain what a mark is, a mark is a term that is used for basically
a sucker, a fool.
And that comes from back in the days of carnival workers.
They used to take a piece of chalk and put a mark on the back of somebody's shirt,
indicating that that person's going to be easy to fool and take their money.
Because wrestling has been, you know, a work all about trying to make people believe that it was real.
Up until about the 1990s, late 80s, where it was getting more and more exposed,
where it became public knowledge that it was fake.
Because before then, people would argue with you about it, but not really so much anymore.
No, but not like the people who watch it are, they'll call them Salas Marks.
Whereas in the day, the whole point of it was to not let the marks know that they're being marked.
They're not supposed to be on the call.
But nowadays as well, like WWE have just completely opened the door to like the backstage workings and everything that's going on.
So it's like there's no pretence whatsoever that this is real.
Yeah.
No.
But I think that in modern wrestling, they're kind of like, they're still trying to.
work just in like a different way.
Do you mean?
Because like now that the whole business is open and they've made it quite clear that
this is, this is a work, I feel like they're still trying to work.
It's not in a more modern.
Anyway, that's not the point of the show today.
No, no.
So the point of the show is we're going maybe, maybe making this an annual tradition where
to kind of embrace the smart aspect of our name.
We're going to be talking about a major wrestling event.
that occurred this last weekend,
WrestleMania.
So,
WrestleMania,
WB's premier wrestling event.
It's been that way
for 30 some years now.
40?
40?
41?
I would have,
if I was the hazard of guess,
I would say 41 years.
Yeah.
So it's been a thing for quite a while.
It's been a thing longer
than the three of us have been alive
for the most part.
Fine.
Yep.
Just about.
Yep.
John, don't expose yourself.
The love of God.
Please.
Keep the camera on.
I could not root again.
Oh my God.
So many lawsuits.
So last year was a bit of a unique situation
because Dylan was actually at WrestleMania for both nights.
This year, you guys watched it as it was happening live.
I did not because I forgot that WrestleMania was going to be on TV,
primarily because the buildup for it was way too far.
fucking long.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean...
Because, I mean...
If you look at the time difference between when elimination chamber was, which is the last
major event they had and Russellmania, it was like...
It's two months, I think.
About two months.
Yeah, that's a long time to build a match.
Yeah.
Especially because you don't want to overexpose it by having them actually wrestle each other.
So it basically just becomes talking segments for two months.
Also, the fact that some of those...
And what's a broading segment.
Well, built up.
Huh?
Yeah.
I was just saying lots of brawling segments as well.
Yeah.
Just ways to get a fill of the time.
Like, if they had trimmed that by two or three weeks, it would be way better, I think.
Especially because John Cena wasn't going to be there every week.
So there's like two weeks of Cody Rhodes and John Cena going back and forth.
And then like three or four weeks of just Cody Rhodes talking.
Yeah.
Like, okay.
And they were good.
Cody Rhodes is a great talker.
Great talker.
The problem I had was,
and the two times that Cody Rhodes and John Cena were face-to-face on SmackDade,
both times Cody Rhodes caught John Cena with the crossroads and put him down.
And I'm like,
Cina's 100% going to win.
Especially because they did the week of the day before WrestleMania,
the Friday before wrestling.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Cody puts...
Whoever's standing tall on the golf home show is always going to lose.
Cody's going to lose.
The fact that they did it twice, I was like, okay.
Yeah.
Put a fine bow with it, you know.
So this WrestleMania took place in the Allegiant Stadium in Paradise, Nevada,
billed as Las Vegas, Nevada.
Night 1 and night two.
And, yeah, I kind of just,
We'll just kind of go through the event.
Do you guys want to do it in the order that the matches took place in?
Or do you want to do it?
I think we should.
Okay.
I think we should.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Nightwood of WrestleMania.
I should point out.
Yeah.
I feel like the only reason we talked about it last year was simply because I was there.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
You spent all, we just talking about it today.
And to be fair, it was a very long episode, but you did spend a lot of time talking about what you were eating in Philadelphia.
yeah
yeah
let's do it again
let me talk about that pizza
um
I
I would love to go this year
but I
I don't have any money
and I was talking to my brother
about this after
on the buildup to
WrestleMania
all the way up to the buildup
and then after the show
we were both convinced
that we went to the better
wrestling media
yeah
I think
I would agree with that.
I don't think this year's...
I don't think this year's WrestleMania was bad.
I enjoyed it.
I had a fun time.
I think last year the build was better.
The matches were better.
The vibe is better.
The food was better.
Although I did get...
I would say one match was probably better than anything from last year's,
but we can get into that in a bit.
Yes, I think we'll get to that.
All right, so
Night 1 of
WrestleMania was April 19th
And the show
Open with the World Heavyweight Championship bout
The defending champion
Gunther
versus the Royal Rumble winner
Jay Uso
So
So real quick
Just as you're not familiar with either men
Jay Uso is incredibly a popular
With the WV audience
multi-time tag team champion won the Intercontinental Championship
about earlier last year.
Goethe has been a dominant force ever since he came into NXT
or actually NXT UK winning the world title there.
Transitioned over to NXT proper was the beast.
Well, did he ever actually, no, I don't think he was in NXT proper.
I think he went NXT UK and what jumped straight to the roster from there.
He was in NXT.
He was? Okay. Did he hold the NXT title?
I don't think so.
Okay.
I don't remember.
Fair enough.
We can look that up.
Yeah, but, you know, Guelther was the longest ranking in our continental title in history.
You surpass the Honky Talk Man's record.
By the way, if you've never watched wrestling before or heard anyone talk about it,
me saying he surpassed the Hockey Talk Man's record is going to be a fucking hell of a sentence for you.
We won't get into...
Not going to make any sense.
Yeah, we're not going to get into the Hockey Talk Man.
Basically, what you need to know is that Goethe Thubbeth.
has been very protected, very dominant the entire time he's been on the main roster and even
before then. So, uh, yeah, Jay Uso's popularity is within the last, what, year, I would say?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, a lot of people weren't crazy about Jay Uso winning the Royal
Rumble, despite the fact that he's incredibly over with the audience and the crowd. Uh,
has got a very big entrance as people love to do along with him.
but any thoughts on the match itself because Jay Uso did the unthinkable and defeated Goethe,
which was not his first time facing Goethe.
He faced him a couple of times and lost every other time.
Yes.
Which kind of played into the match, I think.
Yeah, it was definitely part of the buildup.
You see during the match, Jay ends up doing a lot of Gunther's moves back to him and to try and, like,
show that he's learned something from having wrestled this
unstoppable killing machine a couple of times already
which I liked
we talked about this before I wasn't a big fan of the finish of the match
because I think it just kind of
I think Gunther tapped too quickly
for me because they've done
such a good job of protecting Gunther
and making him seem like an unstoppable monster
generally
I feel like if you're going to be
the one that makes Gunther tap out, like,
it needs to be a little bit bigger.
You could argue and to say,
oh, Gunther has never been in that position before he panicked.
He was exhausted from like the Usso splashes or whatever.
I can see that, you know, that's fair enough.
I just wasn't a big fan of that finished.
But I didn't hate it.
I, it was a good match, honestly, you know.
But the one thing about last year was that Uso was down.
definitely and the stinker of the night
last year and I thought
it was weird
it was rough and I thought it was rough and I thought it was
funny that the guy that was in the worst
match of rest media last year
is now in a title match
and is probably going to win the championship
in this year's wrestling media
like what a difference a year makes
one thing that I think is funny that you pointed out
was that people were not happy by Chase
so winning the roll and roll
and they're not very happy with him
winning the championship.
But this is, I mean, that's smart talk.
Because if you're, if you listen to the crowd, they fucking love that guy.
They love Dave's so, like people do.
He's over.
And why wouldn't you capitalize on that when you get the chance, right?
In a perfect world, Gunther would do the same thing.
He would go on and hold that championship for months, years, right?
Because he only won the belt that, like, Summer's
Yeah, he's not been
James
It's not that long
Six, seven months
No, that's the shortest
like title reign
Gunther's had in the WWE
and it's for the world
Heavy Good Championship
like that, you know,
but at the same time
the WWE
we have to do something with JUs
so he's super popular.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter if he ends up
being a transitional champion
or whatever.
He won the World Rumble,
he won the Heavy Championship,
he'd thrown Gunther,
those are big stats to put in this guy.
It legitimizes him,
makes him look like a
big deal. I don't see the problem with him.
He's super over. The people love
him. Fair play.
John, any thoughts?
I mean,
Dylan pretty much covered all of my thoughts
right there. I did
enjoy the finish
more than Dylan did because I
think like Dave
really had to earn it.
I think he strung together like a couple of
super kicks and then like three slashes
in a row and then went to the sleeper.
Like it wasn't like
Like, he just slapped the sleeper on and, like, Gunther tapped out straight away.
Yeah.
But, you know, like, you know, he earned it.
And like Dan said, he's so over with the crowd.
And in terms of, like, kicking off WrestleMania and, like,
kicking it off in a big way, it doesn't get much bigger than sort of crowning Jay Uso as to the world champion.
And, you know, given on the board, see if he can run with it.
Exactly, and that's the thing.
If he can't run with it, take the belt off him again.
It's no big deal.
Nobody gives a shit.
The ability to pivot when things might change is a very important thing for wrestling
that a smart booker would know all about.
All right.
So next up, we have the war raiders, the team of Eric and Ivar, who are Vikings,
defending the world tag team championship against the New Day,
Kofi Kingston and Anne Xavier Woods.
The New Day held the record for longest,
what WV tag team champions of all time,
they passed Demolition's record years ago.
They've been around for over a decade.
So they recently turned heel,
recently turned their back on their longtime partner, Big E,
and been a heel group since.
The ending saw Kofi Kingston
and Xavier Woods defeating the Viking.
Raiders and our second match or second title change.
Thoughts.
This match is fine.
Like honestly, that match,
if you saw that in Raw, you'd be like, fair enough.
It wasn't like, whoa, dude.
But it also wasn't a stinker.
Yeah.
Like, it was totally fine.
No.
John?
The bill was dreadful.
Like, there was basically no buildup whatsoever,
aside from the new day saying,
we'd like a tight team vital match.
and then the war raiders
then,
okay.
We should talk about
the buildup
for some of these matches
on the way up.
It's not been great.
I actually saw
I was at a house show
about a month
before WrestleMania
and the New Day
versus the war readers
was one of the matches.
And
on the way in,
the New Day grabbed
a sign
my kid that said
New Day socks
and they ripped
it up and threw it into the crowd
just as the match was about to start
they were standing on the apron they ripped up the
sign and threw it in the crowd
and Xavier was in the ring
Popey turns his back on the audience and then
the kids in the crowd crumple up
the pieces of paper and throw it back
at Kobe and Kobe sells
it like he's just been fucking hit
with a bullet
he just like he's on like oh what the fuck
Xavier the match has just
just started the bell is just drunk Xavier
sprints and like slides out of the ring and
grabs a head of security and drags him over and goes throw that kid out.
The head of security is like, I mean, I guess I'm going to throw you.
He ends up like fucking yapping at this kid for like 10 minutes.
It was beautiful.
I wish they'd done that.
Yeah.
Because that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know it's how I show stuff
where you can play around with it.
But I'd like to see a lot more of that fun, healy.
New Day, because they are good at it.
Yeah.
You know, they're very good to get that heel heat.
They can do it.
Like I said, I thought that match was, it was just fine, you know?
It was okay.
Yeah, I did appreciate the sort of Giant Gonzalez tribute to their gear as well, the New Day.
They always do well with gear.
I didn't see that, and I'm terrified to see it now.
Giant Gonzalez, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I mean...
The big glaring weak spots of the WBVE forever, probably since, the new generation.
I would give the new generation, because I honestly, the tag team titles were just passed around haphazardly in the attitude era, is the tag team division.
They don't really do too much with them.
The Smackdown, the Smackdown, the Smackdown, the Smackdown, the Smackdown. The Smackdown, the SmackDown, the SmackDown. The SmackDown, the SmackDown, the SmackDown.
So, I mean, case some point there.
Well, the thing I will say about this is the build to War Readers versus New Day is kind of just these are the, one of them is the champions and the other one is the other team.
Right.
It doesn't feel like there's a whole lot of other, like, proper tag teams on Raw at the moment.
Yeah.
SmackDown tag titles, I will say, they feel like they put more excitement into it.
Well, because they've had that trio deal with the Motor City machine guns, DIY, and, I think.
the street profits for the last few months.
So I was surprised of like of the two tag divisions,
why is the raw one getting on WrestleMania and not the Smackdown one?
I agree. I felt weird.
Especially if they're going to do TLC.
You could have put a TLC match on WrestleMania and it would have been perfect.
There was always a big ladder match on WrestleMania for years.
Long time.
I think they just wanted a good big match to put on the show.
after rest of media to go, you like
WrestleMania, stick around for this because
there's still good stuff coming up. Yeah.
But yes, I agree. I would have, I would have
done that on Restamedia instead, and there would have
been, because it was a tag team
lottery match to rest of many last
year. Yeah.
For both the outs,
which was a lot of fun.
All right, so next
matchup is Jade Cargill
versus Naomi.
This was a grudge match between the two
women. Jade Cargill, several
Months ago was one half of the women's tag team champions with Bianca Belair.
She turned up, beat up in a parking lot, disappeared for a few months, came back at the
Elimination Chamber, beat the living hell out of Naomi, and Naomi ended up revealing that
she had been the person that attacked Jade Cargill leading to this match happening.
Thoughts on Jade Cargill versus Naomi.
I think all of us could have seen not coming, right?
Naomi, Dia Cargill
mysteriously disappears,
Naomi steps in to be the new tag partner.
He could have, you know,
Chertoe Combs, like, I just can't figure it out.
You know, violent, doing cocaine,
trying to figure out the mystery.
He was a crazy cat.
That match had, clearly had some build to it.
You know, that's the storyline that's been going on for quite a while.
That match itself was okay.
Yeah.
I heard a lot of people say it was terrible.
I don't think it was terrible.
It wasn't like fantastic, though.
Well, you know.
Yeah, I mean, Cargill is somebody that has limitations,
but she looks like a superstar.
So that's always...
Right.
You could just have her.
I mean, I get it because you want to make...
I only look...
But you have...
Yeah, Cargill go in there and beat somebody up in three minutes,
and nobody would be like,
what the fuck?
Yeah.
They would go,
that's J. Carton.
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Trying to get them to go too long is tricky with somebody like Greg Cargill who doesn't,
still has a lot of kinks to work on it from her time in AW,
it seems,
because,
you know,
she's not super good at, like,
she's wrestling maybe once or twice a month for a couple of years,
and that's not enough time.
But it was all squash stuff.
It was all like done, done, done.
It was never like a 10-minute match or whatever.
Yeah.
So she doesn't seem super good at like chaining stuff together or like logically going to the next bit.
And you would have hoped that in the time she's been in the W&E, she would have worked that out.
Because that's been a year and a half.
No, I think it's been a little longer in a year and a half.
Regardless, John, do you have any thoughts on Cargill versus Naomi?
well i'm glad it wasn't like a three-minute squash because i think naomi's been doing such good work since
she turned here like her promos have been by far some of the best stuff she's ever done in
w-wee like she's considering her character was just sort of the smiley dancer for so long yeah
he's got like a real edge to her now and so i think if she'd been squash that would
have done her, you know, no favors whatsoever going forward, whereas at least he got to look
competitive against Jade Cargo, even though everyone knew Jade was most likely going to win that
match.
Oh, yeah.
You know, the bigger deal in the grand scheme of things, I guess.
But at least give something to Naomi that she can sort of build on, I guess, going
forward.
Okay.
Next up, we have LA Knight defending the.
United States Championship against Jacob Fatu, the Smoh and Werewolf.
Jacob Fatu has been in the WVB for under a year now, about a year now, actually,
because he turned up a couple of weeks after WrestleMania last year.
So, um, yes, yeah.
Fatu is amazing.
It has been since I saw him in MLW when he was part of Contra unit and was like 75 pounds
heavier.
So I know L.A. Knight is very popular with Dylan.
Dylan, did you have any issues with L.A. Night dropping the United States title to Jacob Fatu?
Nope. Not at all. I thought that that puts Patu over really well.
You know, Knights are a credible United States champion by now.
We've seen him do a lot of good work. And to have him lose WrestleMania is a big deal.
and I thought Jacob had to do a great job.
This match was really fun.
I really like this match a lot.
Those two guys worked really well together,
and I thought this,
I just thought it was a lot of fun, honestly.
Not a shot on a build-up if you're being critical about it.
Yeah.
But fun match.
So, you know.
Johnny, your thoughts?
Yeah, and they had like a couple of good moments,
as well, like Fatu's
moon salt countered into
a BFT
and
they seem to have like pretty good
chemistry together
but yeah I mean
like pretty much all the matches
on this show so far
like it was a good
sort of fun match. Nothing
too spectacular or
like mind blown or anything
but it's pretty
decent like nothing. Nothing
bad about it whatsoever and the right guy won and you know clearly jacob fatua has got huge
the potential in the future as well so this feels like a good sort of uh starting point really
so we had three title matches and three title changes uh up next to see if that trend will
well actually no it's not up next up next is uh the recently debuted
Ray Phoenix.
Big deal in AAA,
which is a Lucillebrae promotion out of Mexico
that is now owned by the WBE,
which was announced earlier that night,
against El Grand Americano,
which, are you guys familiar
with what an Americano is?
I'm not sure if you're big coffee.
Yeah, I'm not sure if you're big coffee drinkers.
Coffee.
Yeah, it's an espresso with water.
So just a water-down espresso.
I don't know why El Gran Americano is, yeah.
Anyway, who may or may not be the leader of American maid Chad Gable under a mask?
We don't know for sure.
No, he isn't.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
Why would you even say that?
I'm just saying, you know, it may or may not be.
It may or may not be several people.
It may or may not be, you know, Xavier Woods coming out for a second match of the night.
It may.
We're loads of people.
Yeah.
It may or may not be...
I reckon it's Delo Brown.
It's going to be Delo Bride.
You're looking at the real deal now.
God.
Oh, what?
Sorry.
So anyway...
You're very excited over Deelow Brown.
I do enjoy Deelow Brown.
Anyway, yes, we have Ray Phoenix versus El Grand Americano,
non-title match.
El Grand Americano has been basically working his way through Luchadors
since arriving in the WB.
And Ray Mysterio, who...
a big deal in Lucha Libre and the
WV had what had handpicked
Ray Phoenix to be the person to face
Americano
correct? Yes
No? I think so.
Basically
Ray Mysterio.
Yeah, he injured his groin
on Smackdown apparently.
I guess
took a football to the groin.
That'll do it.
Old mole man.
That'll do it.
He's his old.
Yeah, it's a shame.
it's a shame that Ray Phoenix is losing
pretty clean in like one of his first
WWE matches
I mean, was it clean though?
Well, he did.
No, I guess it wasn't because he got hit with like the loaded
mask, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, like to have him lose anyway
like a big stage and stuff like this early in,
it's, I don't know.
kind of undercuts how special they can make him seem when, you know, he's already losing matches like that.
But I guess it's not the end of the world.
And, you know, I think for the benefit of the story as well, our grand Americano, like, he was clearly going to beat Ray Mysterio if Ray had been healthy.
So, you know, he kind of had to win this match.
so it is what it is
but it was like still a fun match though
the two played off each other really well
and
it didn't overstay its welcome
so yeah I agree with a lot
of that man I think that like
if he had beat Ray Mysterio
at WrestleMania that would have been a bigger deal
and I feel sorry for Phoenix
because he only just arrived like
three weeks ago
I say that but I'll just say this
in that he arrived three weeks ago
and now here he is, the Rust Media.
Yeah.
If you look at...
Well, yeah.
I mean, if you look at Dragon Lee,
who was signed by WWB about two years ago,
maybe a little longer,
Dragon Lee is the speed champion,
which is the,
basically the Twitter championship,
where they have, like,
three-minute matches
that they put exclusively on Twitter.
So, like,
it could be a lot worse for them
than losing on WrestleMania, you know?
the thing is because Ray Mysterio got injured on
on Friday, I assumed that
the replacement for him would be Dragon Lee
because let's be honest, they're not afraid to have Dragon Lee
lose a match. And I'm like, that wouldn't be a bad thing at all
for Dragon Lee to get on WrestleMania to lose to this. It's part of the story.
I would have done that over. Over Ray Phoenix.
The thing about Ray Phoenix is you're clearly trying to get that guy over.
quickly.
I would have done Dragon Lee
instead of Ray Phoenix, but
at the same time, Phoenix did a good job.
I don't think he looks like a chump
for losing to El Grande, the Americano, because
like we said, there was some shenanigans involved.
It wasn't a clean victory.
And they've been working the storyline
for a bit. So, I think
he's going to get his win back again.
Don't you mean? Like, it's not the end of the story.
So, yeah, I thought it was a fun match.
Sure. So...
But, you know, not about so far.
So next up, another championship match,
what I was trying to allude to earlier,
for the W.W.E. Women's Championship,
Tiffany Stratton defending against Charlotte Flair.
This match had a lot of...
It had a unique build, to say the very least,
where there was some awkward in-ring moment,
or in-ring talking segments,
where maybe people said some things that they shouldn't have said
and upset some people legitimately.
But do you think that came together in the ring or not?
Because I saw pictures of Tiffany Stratton afterwards.
She got her teeth chipped and definitely took some stiff shots.
She says she didn't get her teeth chipped.
Yeah.
All right.
She posted a picture afterwards and then showed us to smell.
smiling and it looked like awkward photo.
She posted a video of her showing off her teeth.
Was it just an awkward photo then?
Because it looked like she had her teeth chipped.
Something, I don't know if it was her gums or something, but something
bleating, maybe she got a busted lip or something.
Something in her mouth was bleeding.
And that was absolutely a case of somebody being a little bit too stiff.
A little snug, little snug.
But, but, but, to this.
their credit, the way
in the shitty haphazard
build that they had done for that match,
if that match hadn't been some
kind of fucking knockout,
you know, drag out brawl,
if they hadn't have been just like clovering each other,
it wouldn't have made any sense.
They realized that with the weird way
they booked that show and they'd been
building to that match, it kind of had to
just start throwing hands. And to
her credit, Tiffy did a great job.
Yep. She held her own.
to Charterflair who, let's be honest, has a bit of a habit of being a little snug.
Kind of going into a business for yourself.
A little snug.
And they get it all about Charlotte, you know.
And Tiffy did a great job.
I honestly thought Charter was going to win because historically, if you bet against Charter
at WrestleMania, you're probably going to lose money.
And so I was super happy to see Tippy win.
Super happy.
I think she's got a great upside
and I think she held her own here
She's got a good look
It wasn't the greatest match
She does have a great look
I loved her entrance
Her entrance is great
Oh the Barbie entrance yeah
Oh yeah yeah
Barbie yeah I love that
Beautiful that's what
Rastomini is about
These fun entrances and stuff
It's not about the rest
And fuck that shit
But she
she looked like a star
And that's something that I think would happen
On the buildup to that match
She didn't look that good on the way there, but at the panicle of it, she did.
And I'm very happy.
So, John, thoughts?
I think, well, with Charlotte, like, we've sort of talked about this before, but she's basically had no evolution whatsoever over the last 10 years.
She's always been the same character, and she's always carried herself the same way.
she's always in and around the title pitcher
and it's like
if she had won the title here
it would have been such a
boring way to go
just like reverting back to the
like standard
yeah
I'm so glad that they didn't go that route
because it would have
probably derailed Tiffany as well
like especially after the buildup
being
so all over the place and
pretty wild
and whatnot.
I think it would have done
Tiffany Stratton no favors whatsoever
to lose.
So they made the right decision.
The match itself was
hard hitting and
kind of wild
and all over the place.
Not like a perfect match by any stretch,
but it was still
entertaining enough.
And you kind of
about the
sort of hatred between them as well.
So that's a good plus for me.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can feel like the TAMC you're going in.
One of the big complaints I've seen in some storylines that try to build themselves
as big blood feuds is that you have all these heated escalations for weeks and
weeks and then they start the matchup grappling.
And it's like, well, why would you do that?
Why wouldn't you just charge each other and just swing for the fences?
Was that the situation here?
they just immediately went to war?
Or was there like a slow, like...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, no, they absolutely went straight at it as soon as the bell rang.
Yeah.
So, see, that's how you do it right.
So do you think that the reason why they had all the title changes at the front half of the show
was to build up to the fact that there was not going to be a title change towards the end?
Because this was the last title match of the night.
Because the main event was not for a title, unless you want to...
called Paul Heyman a championship.
But, uh,
I do.
Yep.
So there,
I've always been of the,
the feeling that when you have these big events,
fans always cheer for the title changes.
So you want to give them as many as you can.
Uh-huh.
Right.
And so if you want people to cheer for tippy,
keep the belt on her.
Yeah.
And put her type,
like away from the other ones, you know?
I mean,
that's certainly a possibility.
Um,
I don't know, maybe.
So our main event of the evening was a triple threat between Roman Reins,
Seth Rollins, and C.M. Punk was accompanied to the ring by Paul Heyman.
Paul Heyman, a longtime friend of punk going back to their days in Ohio Valley Wrestling,
although Paul normally is associated with Roman Raines as the tribal chief's wise man.
So I heard that this was obviously the match of the night.
What were your thoughts?
Well, first of all,
Living Color played
St. Punk down to the ring.
Mm-hmm. So that's important.
Should be noted. I am not a fan of that song.
I fucking hate it.
But that on the list of stuff, Corey Hates.
Yep.
I got a long list.
One of these episodes is going to be just a big...
Us talking about the stuff Corey Hates.
and how we don't
for a lot of them we don't agree
next time I go to the moon
I'll send you guys the list
and you guys can just have an episode
where you're just going through the list
okay
I think that's fine
you don't want to be here
when it happens
you'll just say it'll give you something to do
so you don't talk about Katie Perry
the whole time apparently
Howard
listen she was with you
that's why we were talking
I've had a rebound after
yeah well I mean after
her relationship with Russell Brand
I feel like I'm not exactly a step down, so we got that going for me.
It was pretty funny, but this is, this episode is coming out before that episode.
Yeah, by a couple of weeks, about a month, actually.
So this is going to make no fucking sense.
So that might get cut.
Regardless, so the buildup to this match was probably the best buildup of all the matches of Russell meeting that I've seen so far.
A lot of the back, I mean, you have three great talkers, Rollins,
Raines and Punk can all, they can talk for hours and hours and it will never get boring.
So a lot of this was, you know, Seth having a grudge against punk for years now, doing whatever
he can to sabotage Punk's career.
Punk being the very divisive person that he is, and Roman Raines kind of cementing himself
as the top dog, even though he doesn't have a belt right now.
and well there was layers to it so obviously
Rollins and Funk had that problem
Rollins and Reins have a issue
from the Shield
yeah long time problem
and Reins have that issue with
Paul Heyman
yeah so there's like
there is like these unbelievable
like surprisingly like deep layers
to this match that's why it's been such a good build
because when it happened
when they were talking about doing it
I was like why would these three guys wrestle
and then as they pulled it off
you're like all right
they've twisted it and turned it enough to make me go
I dig it I'm on board with this
this is really good
if you can't have Roman Reins Fight the Rock
this is absolutely the next best thing
if not better than
Roeman's fighting the rock
whenever the last week or two
before WrestleMania
was all about
Paul Heyman not knowing
should he go with Roman
Rains or Sam Punk
I knew
he's going to
he's going to go
Rollins.
That's got to be
what's happening.
They're not
talking about
Rollins here
that's because
they're going to
swear up
and have him
go to Rollins.
Which is what happened.
That's not a bad thing.
They did it perfectly.
So yeah.
As you would imagine
with those
those four fucking guys involved
they pulled it off
like
Heyman arguably
arguably the best
manager
since Bobby the Brain Heenan
of course, you know, played his role perfectly well the whole time, riding that fence between
Punk and Raines, being in that awkward kind of baby face that he can be.
Because, I mean, Heyman's real, really shines as a slimy heel, has since the early 90s when he was
running the dangerous alliance in WCW.
But so, of course, you know, he handed a steel chair to punk to take care of a problem,
ended up low-blowing punk when he had his back turned, handed the chair to Raines, let Raines beat
the hell out of punk with a chair.
low-blowed reins and then handed the chair to Seth Rollins so that he could finish the job.
And that was, of course, how it all came to.
With, you know, Haman kind of being that decisive factor that they all thought he was going to be,
but just not in the way they expected.
It seems like such a weird pairing, though, Haman and Seth Rollins.
I agree.
Rollins is such an outlandish character in terms of, like, stuff he wears to the ring.
And, like, it's over the top, like, line deliveries and stuff.
Well, he's a modern-day macho man.
He feels like, yeah, but I don't think his personality messes well with Paul Heyman's personality.
Like, Paul Heyman seems a lot more sort of reserved.
And, well, maybe not reserved.
Maybe that's the wrong word.
But he's like, he's more of a thoughtful guy, whereas Rollins is just loud and obnoxious.
So this is a bit of a, I want to say it's a spoiler, but I mean, you know, the following Monday, you know, they revealed that Braun Breaker was involved now in this, too.
That makes more sense of Haman being managing Breaker and letting Rollins handle his stuff on his own.
You still present them as a trio, but Haman's going to be more of the ringside piece for Rollins and not necessarily a talker, I would assume.
Yeah, see that makes more sense because when you see, that was the thing.
when you see this happen,
like you could see it happening,
but you're also like,
why would Rollins need
Heyman in his corner?
It's kind of like whenever
Punk and Hayman were together,
you're like,
punk's the best talker in the game.
He doesn't need the second best soccer in the game.
But that,
that didn't matter.
It was the fact that they were together
was electric.
It just worked.
It was fun.
And it's the same thing here.
It's like,
Seth doesn't need Paul Heyman.
The fact of it together
is just going to work
out really well. I'm at the Bronbreaker
into that match, or into
the storyline, was
a really good idea.
Really, really good idea, because we'll talk
with Bronbreaker pretty soon. Yeah.
But it gives him something to do,
and it gives him, like,
they're very high on Bronbreaker, which I like.
He's great, man.
That guy. So,
WrestleMania Night 1 ends with the bad guy
standing tall. Will that be
the case in WrestleMania Night 2?
WrestleMania Night 2, of course, was the following day on April the 20th, 420, Smoke him if you got him.
We started the night with another triple threat that had a good buildup for the women's world championship.
E.O. Sky defended against the pairing of Bianca Belair and Rio Ripley.
The buildup for this one, I felt, was a little redundant. There were a lot of weak.
where it just seemed like Bianca and Rio were bickering, and then Eo would get involved
to kind of prove that she wasn't, you shouldn't look over her because she's so small,
and then there would be some dives to the outside or someone would get slapped and powerbomb through a thing.
But it felt really like a redundant build.
And I know it made some people sour on Ria a little bit because Ria was kind of, I don't know.
Do you think, like, they were trying to push Ria as a tweener in the fact that like she was kind of being a,
a brat. I mean, she had lost the women's title to E.O. Sky Clean. There was no chicanery,
no shenanigans, and she kind of acted like a petulant child about it. Yeah, I think they're
setting the seeds for a heel turn because a heel would be very upset that they lost the championship
and would blame somebody else for that loss, which is what Ria did. I also think that she's
kind of justified in that, like, why did EEO?
sure I get that title shot to begin with.
Right.
Bianca Bel Air won the Roe Rumble.
No, no, she won an elimination chamber.
She won the Elinichie Chamber, right?
Charlotte won the Roe Rumble.
Right, so Bianca Bellar won the Elimist Chipper,
so that guarantees her that mass of WrestleMania.
But why was E.O.
Shari supposed to fight Rearipley the day after that on Raw?
Like, what was the...
You know what I mean? Where did that come in?
So I can see why Bianca would be like,
why are you involved with this?
I can see where Rio would be like,
I should be fighting Bianca,
I shouldn't be fighting you.
Where does this come in?
You know what you mean?
I thought that was weird.
When it happened,
I was like,
I'm sure a lot of other people were like,
this is going to be rea-reply versus Bianca
about this.
This is a one-on-one match
that we have been eager to see.
I wasn't super happy with them
changing the bet like that
and putting on you.
As it went on,
I've enjoyed it a lot,
because I really like you, Shari.
Yeah, I was going to say, I know you're a fan of Eio Sky.
I thought that she did a very good job with what she was given.
And the way you were talking about the buildup, again,
maybe this is just me being a smart and like eagle eyes or whatever.
But as the buildup was going on, you're like,
Eio Shari is going to win because she's been treated.
The two people that are the main event in this triple threat matcher,
Bianca and Ria, Eio has been put.
on the back burner, she's going to win.
She's going to prove everybody wrong.
And I thought
that
when it started off,
this didn't seem like a good idea.
It should have been Rhea versus Bianca.
And then I think we could all agree
once the match was over,
we were all like,
that was the right call.
That's fucking ripped.
That ripped.
That match.
People are saying that's the best,
open a match of Rest Media. I've heard some people say
it's the best match at Restuania. I don't know
if that's true. But like, that match
was awesome.
It was so good.
So. I think it's
one of the best women's match in the
period. Yeah.
Just fucking wall-to-wall three
pros. Like, keep those guys
in the crosshairs, right?
Sure, do you, Bianca versus
Ria next year because you've got
that build up of this year.
But keep those three women,
like tip top of that division
because they're going to carry that for a long
time and if it's those three guys in charge
to that company like that division
with sweethands dude
so much fun
so as you alluded to you, Eoskeye
was successful in her title defense
our second match
was I forgot this was
on the show period
but this was Damien Priest
versus Drew McIntyre in a
Sin City street fight
so
could you forget
much.
Well, so we'll talk about how Damian Priest is kind of a forgettable person for me.
I just, I don't see.
He's a very big man.
We know this to be true, but he seems as dull as dishwater to me a lot of the time.
And I felt that way ever since he was in Ring of Honor when he was Punishment Martinez,
which was a better fucking name the Damian Priest.
I mean, come on, Punishment Martinez.
Yeah.
Yeah, right?
You remember that fucking name.
But also,
also, if you look at that guy,
yeah, that's a punishment Martinez right there.
Yeah.
You said he was going to blam,
but like, it looks like you beat the shit out of you.
Well, yeah, I mean, he just, like I said,
there's just something about him that's,
there's something's missing.
I mean, they put a world title on him
because he's who Gunther defeated to win the title.
But I just, I always felt like there's something missing with priest.
Meanwhile, you have Drew McIntyre,
who's been doing the best work of his,
career for the last like what year year two yeah really really found his own as just that smart
ass you know scotsman smart as scotsman so they call him yeah the smart ass scotsman the smart ass
scotsman the smote the t-shirts yeah all the t-shirts say that um i asked us what is it
people refer him as dm hunk because his twitter uh his twitter game is really strong as the kids say
yes well he proved that in this
match.
He did some more
social media
shenanities.
Was this
his brother
that was
ringside?
I believe
so, yeah.
Yeah,
his brother,
he just took
a phone off
his brother
and then went
and took a
picture,
a selfie of
himself
by
Damian priest's
downed body
on the ring
side,
took a picture
and like,
what do you think
of this?
And you're like,
that guy
never misses
a trick,
man,
you know,
he's one
of those
guys that
like,
maximizes his minutes.
If he's got time out there,
he will make the most of it.
Now, this match had
build.
There's history there between
Magatyr and Priest
because there was a match
Clash of the Castle last year.
Yeah.
Which was Maguire versus Priest
and Magatyr would have won the belt
if it wasn't for some wonderfully timed
interference from
Jim Park.
I love that.
that whole angle.
But you can see
that there was
like clearly
unfinished business
there.
Priest won that match
and then
it would make sense
if Magatire was
to win this match.
But also like you said
the role
McIntyre has been on
he needed a good
cool ass win
at Rustmania
and he got one.
You know
this match was
I thought this much was fun
I'm not a huge fan
of like crazy ass
fucking
you know weapons matches
but they did
a good job with this one. It wasn't like too
insane, but just insane enough for you're like,
oh dude, this is fun, you know?
Got into it.
Yeah.
So, John, did you... I liked it.
Any thoughts on this one,
Damied Priest or McIntyre?
Yeah, I mean, yeah,
again, like, it pretty much
has been said already, really.
Like, I thought it was a fun match.
You didn't
do too much.
Like, too over the top or anything.
Like, it all made sense, and it all felt, like, quite fresh as well, like, some of the, the way they were using the weapons and whatnot.
And the finish itself, where he hit the Claymore, where priest's head was against a chair sort of wedged in the corner.
That was a cool visual right there.
But, yeah, I think the most important thing is the right person won this.
and for Drew, he's had a hell of a year
that he hasn't always been winning matches
or at least the big matches, which matter the most.
So it was good to see him get that kind of win
on a stage like WrestleMania,
and hopefully that sets him up for, you know,
more big stuff as the year progresses.
All right, so next up, we have another title match.
Braun Breaker, the reigning, defending Intercontinental Change,
champion was defending it in a fatal four way against Pentagon, or sorry, he's just Penta in
WBE, which maybe, maybe because they own AAA, he'll go back to being Pentagon Jr.
Because I feel like that is a better name than Penta.
I don't know, Penta, it seems too short for me.
At least it's not...
The Pentagon is the fucking shape.
Like, what the fuck does that me?
But that's what he's been.
I mean, it's better than...
It's better than Penta L0M as he was in...
Correct.
Correct.
So anyway, against Penta, Finn Baller, and Dominic Mysterio.
Thoughts on this one?
Well, I thought going into this, if it was just Braun Breaker versus Panta,
which I would have been happy with, I'd just going to win, right?
But once they started making a fatal four way, again, my little smart guys are working away.
I'm like, Dominic's going to win
because that's going to create tension with him and Finn Baller.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's for context.
For context, Dominic Mysterio and Finn Baller are part of a team,
referred to as Judgment Day,
with Finn as the leader and Dominic kind of the weasley,
junior, not junior member, but member underneath Finn's leadership.
So have him, like, slip, I feel four ways perfect for him to, like, slip away with the
bat, by properly.
winning it.
Tom Breaker doesn't have to get pinned
to lose the belt.
It has a built-in storyline
with Dominic and Vince
already built in.
But Penta is clearly in the mix.
You can clearly see that
there's an opportunity for Penta
and Dominic Mysterio to fight.
That's what I imagine is going to happen.
Is Penta is going to be the one
that leaves Dominic Mysterio?
I, again, this match didn't have a huge
one of build to it in terms of some of the other matches,
but the build that it did have made sense.
and I was on board with it.
Yeah, I feel like this is going to be more,
there's going to be more fallout to this one than there was buildup
because of the aspect of the Finn and Dominic thing.
Because Dominic won by pinning Finn.
So he pinned his own leader of his stable,
so obviously it's going to create tension.
Keeps Penta strong because Penta is still new to WB as well.
He's only been there for a few months,
a little bit longer than his brother Ray Phoenix.
It keeps Bond Breaker strong because he can lose the title
without getting pinned, as you mentioned.
I mean, it feels like it was perfect.
orchestrated.
Yeah, dude, I was super
into this match.
It was, again, another fun match.
Mm-hmm.
Like the first match, really
sort of fast-paced, and
like they didn't really
let up at all throughout the whole.
I think it's only like 10 minutes long,
but it felt like it, you know,
flew by because they were just going
at it so hard.
Yeah.
And, you know,
Bronbreaker, especially, is just
such a fun guy to
because he's such a freak athlete.
Like, the way he moves is incredible.
You know, it's like watching his dad and his uncle
back in the late 80s, early 90s,
when the Steiner's were just, you know,
tossing people around.
Because that was like the big deal,
because he has that ungodly amount of strength
like his dad and uncle did.
Because I remember the Steiners would throw the road warriors around,
and that was such an off-putting experience for Hawk and Animal
because they were the guys.
guys that threw people around.
So yeah, Breaker definitely has that same
level there, and they're
clearly high on him. He is
crazy strength, but he also
was crazy speed. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean,
the build up to this match,
that spear that he hit on Carlito
where he somehow managed to spear him and land on
his feet. Where it's like,
what the fuck? He hit him so
hard he hit him so hard,
he had a front flip and landed on his feet.
What the fuck? He fucking killed
Carlito.
You know?
yeah
lots of fun
all four of those guys
you can do a lot
with them and they did
I thought that was a really fun match
and it's nice to see
Dominic get his flowers as well
for some reason
he's been one of the best heels
over the last few years
yeah that's the thing
he's been one of the best heels
and by doing absolutely nothing
the crowd fucking loved it
yeah
they were on board to see this guy win
I'm like, he's been the best heel for two years
and he has not changed at all.
He's still a horrible person.
In fact, he got worse.
Like, when he turned on Rear Ripley, he got worse.
And people were still like...
So much worse.
Yeah.
It's so much worse.
You all love him now?
Like, are you guys okay?
I mean, I think it's part of them just like respecting
the hard work he's put in.
Like, oh, yeah, give him the belt.
But I'm like, it would have been nice
if you could, like, respect the business a bit
and fucking boo that guy, you know,
because he's supposed to be a horrible heel.
Yeah.
But there's, we had some of that in the main event as well, which we'll get to where the fans turned on Cody Rhodes, but like no reason whatsoever.
We will get, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure we have some stuff to say with that.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, next stop was a bit of an unexpected match.
Randy Orton was originally slotted to face Kevin Owens.
Kevin Owens had a, to drop out due to some neck injuries that a lot of people are looting may or may not.
the career ending.
But seems pretty serious.
Yeah.
To make the most of a bad situation, he had an open challenge, and the open challenge was
answered by the TNA world champion, Joe Hendry.
This was a short match from what I understand, and it was more about Joe
Hendry having like a big viral moment because the guy's over online, people love him
to death.
Thoughts on Joe Hendry and getting this opportunity against Randy Orton.
Real quick, John, let me ask you this.
Once it was announced that Kevin Owens wasn't going to be there.
Who did you think the replacement
Rassler was going to be?
Well, at first I thought it was going to be Nick Aldous
from like the promo
Randy Orton did on the Smackdown after.
But then, yeah, they kind of didn't make too many more moves
in that direction and I thought it would have been weird if Nick Aldous had just
they'd have to build out they'd have to build up all this a little bit more for it to
to come out and be that yeah and I say that I'm a big and so so I would love to see Nick Aldous
wrestle again after he's been the general manager of Smackdown for about a year or so yeah
but yeah I had no idea who this was
going to be like i you know i i was geared up for disappointment and in the end i was very much
not disappointed by what happened so kudos to them for doing something genuinely surprising uh and
it was everything that it needed to be as well like it didn't need to like go 15 minutes or whatever
no not at all it was all about like the pop and the entrance and joe hendry getting to do his little
mannerisms on that stage
and
yeah you know it
totally succeeded
I agree
I thought it's going to be all this
because just the way they've been teasing it
but what on the day
I thought what they're going to do is they're going to have
Alda's come out as if he's going to wrestle
and then go it's actually this
guy and they didn't do that
which I thought was surprising because that would have been
a great tease
yeah there was no shortage of people it could have been
I mean
Jeff Cobb from New Japan has been rumored to be going to the WB when his contract there is done it over with.
But he was actually in Japan on the 19th, so that would have been insane for him to fly to Las Vegas and wrestle a match.
Malachi Black.
Yeah, Malachi Black is supposedly going to be back soon.
Rusev is back, he just turned up on Raw, so it could have been Rusev as well.
So to have it be Hendry was a bit of a surprise.
Also, I mean, Hendry's made the most of every appearance he's been in the WIBE.
Every time he showed up in NXT several times and it always did really good numbers.
He showed up in the Royal Rumble and that got tons of views online.
So people love Joe Hendry.
I saw somebody say it was rumored that Jeff Hardy could have been the guy to replace Kevin Owens.
I don't.
I don't know how legit that is.
I don't think you would want to see Jeff Hardy in a singles capacity anymore.
Like the Hardie's both, their hips and knees are so shot.
They're totally fine doing tag matches because it keeps the load soft for both of them.
But yeah, I don't think you want to see Jeff Hardy in a singles match in 2025.
I reckon you could squeeze a marquee wrestling media match next year with the Hardy Boys in a tag team match.
Yeah.
I don't think Jeff Hardy versus Randy Orden in 2025 would have been that good of a match.
I really liked this match.
know it wasn't very long. I just thought it was fun. The fucking ending was perfect. Yeah.
Good God. They did that so well. And that's the thing about Randy Orton's finish, the RKO.
For years, it has been built up as it's an out-of-nower finish. The match can end at any time as soon as Randy hits it.
So, I mean, it's totally fine that the match went three minutes because Randy hit that move and everybody knows it.
It's established.
There's so much to that why it.
I saw some people.
Even Stevie Richards was like,
I think they,
I don't want to smart Steve
Richard, so I love. He's wrong about this.
Listen, man.
Rondie Orton has been in the game for fucking ever,
right?
Joe Hendrick didn't know he was going to fight Rondy Orton.
Joe Hendry has had no experience of WrestleMania.
Randi Orden is a 13-time
world heavyweight champion.
Right?
This, this outcome does not at all
Burry Joe Hendry, right?
I think that it makes
Orton look like Orton,
but I think that
Joe Henry did the best he could against
a legitimate champion.
Right? Not to say
that Joe Hendry is a legitimate champion
because he's a teenage champion.
But you know what he mean? Like, like, there's more
pedigree to Ronnie Orton than there is
to Joe Hendry at the moment.
And that's not a knock on Joe Hendry.
And it seems very obvious that as soon as Joe's
contract with TNAs up, the obvious
movies he's going to go to WVE.
Correct. So they're obviously very high on him. I think that
this is just a little showcase to show, look,
he can perform at WrestleMania. If you
like them here, you're going to fucking love him next year.
You know what he mean? I don't think this was a detriment to
Joe Hendry at all. I really enjoyed this.
Well, I think the only thing that
kind of, you know, I didn't
enjoy that much was Orton hitting the second
RKO after the match.
Like that was kind of
unnecessary.
Well, he gave him the chest pat,
you know, the, the, the good job kid,
you know, chest pat afterwards.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, I mean, that's also very much
in Randy's character as well as he's
kind of a dick, whether he's a face or a heel.
He's just an asshole.
It's like Steve Austin, like, stunner people all the time.
Yeah, exactly.
And then he'll, like,
fear, and then he'll stun him anyway.
You know what's going to happen.
You know what's going to happen.
I always enjoyed
those Steve Austin
moments where like
the other person knows it's going to happen
but they have to go through with it
and you kind of like see it in their face
they're like yeah this is going to suck
but I got to do it
it's always good whenever like
he gives the beer to the guy
and he's the guy chugging the beer
and then there's a bit where he's almost finished
a beer and he's like
uh oh
I know what happened
I know it would be kind of like
was it down and Austin's like
well and then Stunners him
I gotta do it
but what I really liked about Steve Austin
is whenever he drove his
ATV
Wad bike
oh no not even the one you're thinking of
totally past the fucking entrance ramp
and they get lost
underneath the entrance ramp
and then needed like three guys to guide him back
and then he had to go back up the ramp
and then down the ramp
and then all the way around
and then he hits some fucking woman in the barricade
Well, yeah, he hits the barricade, and the barricade knocks the woman back.
That woman did not get hit by that barricade.
No, no, absolutely.
She got scared.
She got scared.
He took a bump.
Took a bump.
She took a bump.
If she's going to take a bump.
WrestleMania, perfect place.
If she's going to take a bump, she may as well as just taking a stutter.
Just a crisp flatback bump.
He may as well just stuttered her, right?
All right.
Well, I think we talked about Joe Hendry versus Rand Yorton,
longer than the match itself lasted.
At some point,
Austin comes out.
The reason we're talking to this, at some point
Steve Austin comes out to say
the attendance is like 60,000 or whatever,
120,000 for two nights.
He comes out and a quad bike
and then tries to drive away.
Is it before or after?
I think he hits...
It was right before the main event.
Yeah, so he's trying to drive away
and then he like fucking loses control of the bike
and hits the barricade and some woman's like,
like that,
which is just cowardly.
Like, it wasn't going that fast.
No.
Well, so let's get back into...
You have a thought you want to fish?
I couldn't remember what the match order was.
I couldn't remember if that awesome bit happened
after that match or after the next match.
It's two matches from now.
So we got this match that we're about to talk about
and then the one after.
So the match mentioned earlier is we had AJ Stiles versus social media star Logan Paul,
who has now been doing some of the NBA for about a year, a little bit more than a year.
More like two or three years.
Two or three years, I'd say.
Yeah, yeah.
So we have Logan Paul versus AJ Stiles, carrying cross involved in that as well, but not in the match itself.
Logan Paul is one of the most
I will say that
There are people who love him, obviously,
because he wouldn't have the millions of subscribers
to the various social media platforms if they didn't,
but he's also a very detestable human being
who is basically just manipulates people for money.
So one of those things he's manipulated people for money
is he's used his natural athletic prowess
to become a professional wrestler sometimes.
I mean, wouldn't you say that manipulating people for money is exactly what pro wrestling is all the body?
Sure.
We just talked about the marks, right?
So what was the, what was the, I know the buildup for this involved carrying Cross and a lot of him trying to convince AJ Styles to like do whatever it takes to beat Logan Paul for the pride of professional wrestling and pro wrestlers.
But like, what were your thoughts on the match itself?
because like you said, AJ Stiles is one of the best ever, ever.
And Logan Paul is, you know, like you said, a very naturally gifted athlete who took to wrestling very easily.
It's frustrating how good Logan Paul is.
It's so irritating.
Because he's such an irritating person anyway, for him to be so naturally good at this and as a heel, it's so much more irritating.
Because he's got so much to work with.
it's so easy for him to go
I'm the best at this because he's
probably correct
he's very good
he's very very good
I mean he's not the best
you know what he mean
like he's taking it
so quickly
for a guy that
couldn't give a fuck about wrestling
at all
just a cash grab
this good of wrestling
like people you know
to talk about how good Kurt Angle was in this first year
he had fucking years of being
an amateur wrestler.
He knew how to wrestle.
Logan Paul didn't.
Yeah.
Logan Paul was just a fucking douchebag on the internet.
I know he's like an incredible pro wrestler.
So it's so,
it's so annoying to have to constantly
after every single Logan Paul match
say,
that guy's really good.
Yeah.
He put it up there against AJ Styles,
so you said one of the best ever.
One of the best ever.
What are you going to get?
What are you going to get other than a good match?
right so um what are your what are your thoughts on this uh at one at one point in the match
logan paul hits the craziest lion sort i've ever seen right he literally springs like three
quarters across the ring pretty much all the way across and it's like how in there how did
he just do that oh but it's it perfect yeah yeah absolutely nails it
Like, what the fuck?
He is a hell of an athlete.
He's a great dude.
He's very, very good at professional wrestling.
But, yeah, I think the buildup was non-existent for the most part.
Like, it was mostly...
I feel like that's why Gary and Cross got brought into it
because Logan Paul is one of those guys that shows up very sporadically.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And I'm kind of glad.
that Harry and Cross did get
involved because it gave him a chance to
kind of
you know
Oh yeah, give a chance to talk to play in
WrestleMania as well.
Yeah. Yeah, and he's
obviously he excels at talking
so, you know,
let him do that. But
you know, the match itself
was good. I don't think
it was great. I think there was
I don't know,
there's something missing
from it. Like, I think the ending
kind of
was a bit disappointing as well
because it was just the same old thing
that we've seen in so many Logan Paul matches
where one of his
followers or
you know hangers on
yeah they try and get involved
and that
distraction usually ends up
helping
Logan Paul win matches
so yeah
and then the carrying cross thing
and he shows up as well
and tries to get
AJ to do what he needs to do to
win the match and AJ's like
no I'm not going to use brass knucks
I'll just beat him on my own
and obviously it backfires
so that
that feels like at least
it's setting up some story
going forward
but like yeah
it was just a
like showcase match
I guess.
It was the reason to get Logan Paul on the card essentially, I think.
Yes.
Yeah.
I imagine the setting up Caring Cross versus AJ Styles, which I don't have a problem with.
It's a good way to get Logan Paul on the card.
I agree with you that, like, the problem I had with this wasn't that it's always
Logan Paul's lackey's getting involved because he's a heel, right?
That's a part of it.
But this time, all you see is like some fucking guy like creeping a lot, like,
by the apron.
He's just like creeping like,
dude,
I'm like,
who the fuck is this?
He's just looked like
some regular ass dude,
right?
Yeah.
I'm like,
who is this?
And then the announcers
were trying.
Or he's his manager or whatever.
I don't know.
Was it his manager?
It was something like that,
wasn't it?
I think it's just his friend.
I don't know.
It was just some fucking guy,
right?
And he's just dressed.
Let's see.
Jeff,
it just says Jeff,
a member of Paul's entourage.
Jeff. Just Jeff.
Correct.
Jeff, aka some fucking guy, right?
So some fucking guy is interfering in Logan Paul's wrestling media match.
And security guards are like, that's fine.
Yeah, what?
That's world famous Jeff.
That's world famous Jeff.
I'm not going to get involved with world famous Jeff.
Jeff.
Because it's different if it's like, you know, like, last year, Logan Paul had the guy dressed up as a prime bottle.
That's the reason for that guy to be at ringside.
Why was Jeff, where did he come from?
What the fuck? Was he under the ring?
Do you remember a few years ago where the Andre the Giant Battle Royal was at
WrestleMania and Rob Gruncowski was supposed to get in the ring and get involved,
but security didn't know who he was?
So they just thought it was some fan who jumped the guardrail.
And the bravest woman I've ever seen in my entire life grabs this NFL player
and is like trying to hold him back while he's trying to explain he's supposed to get involved.
We need more security guards like that.
They couldn't stop Jeff, though.
Couldn't stop Jeff.
Didn't stop Jeff.
Did you see apparently Logan Paul offered Stone Cold Steve Austin like a million dollars or something to dress up in the prime bottle and Stone Cold turned him down?
I can't imagine why.
Yeah.
No.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, he really wanted to have running someone over.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So the penultimate match, but we have for the WB Women's Tag Team Championship,
where Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez of the Judgment Day faced off against,
is it, I can never remember the pronunciation of her name, is it Lyra Valcairia?
Valkyria.
Alkiria.
Valkyria.
Lyra Valkyria and a mystery partner, because originally her partner was supposed to be Bailey,
but Bailey was found beaten up night one.
And her mystery partner was revealed to be a returning Becky Lynch.
So this, of course, led to Becky Lynch and Lyra succeeding.
They were, was Lyra trained by Becky Lynch?
I know there is a connection there.
Well, they're both Irish.
I think they may have gone to the same school, but many years apart.
Yeah, they're, yeah, yeah.
But they kind of connected.
They kind of connected to an Irish mafia in America.
in the 1920s.
Okay, because the Irish Mafia in Ireland, not a thing.
No.
No, when they came over to America, they started a thing in New York.
I mean, if it's Irish Mafia in America, you could call that American Mafia.
Well, no, these were all immigrants.
In America?
Yes.
Escaping because of the potato famine.
John, whose fault was that?
Whose fault was the potato famine?
We're pointing fingers
You always say that
100 years later
We're still pointing fingers
But yes
And listen
It's a very sore topic
Over and Ireland
Let me think
It's a real big deal
So
So anyway
We have our women's tag team match
Between Liv and Raquel
And Lyra and Becky Lynch
So thoughts
Okay
I have something really
That annoyed me
So much
By this
So much
Was that
up to this point
I was on a
prediction clean sweep
I got every match correct
and I got the main event correct
the only match I got incorrect
was this match and the reason
that I picked Liv Morgan
and Raquel Rodriguez to win
was because they already announced that
on NXT two days later
they were going to fight
um
Gigi Dolan and
uh... Tepin Paxley
there were faces
So I'm like, rest and brie and
Obviously the heels are going to win
So that they fight the faces
Right?
No, what happened was
Feel Good moment, Becky Lynch comes back,
wins the belts with their young protege
A Lara of Akiria.
I'm like, oh, that's nice.
And then a day later, on Raw,
they have a match for no reason.
Rematch.
Rematch.
Re-match clause.
There's not no reason.
Come on, 24 hours.
I'm so annoyed.
you lose the belts back to live and Raquel
who then go on to defend
the championships against the
challengers at MXT
and I'm like guys
couldn't you have just done that at
WrestleMania and have me
I've never had a 100%
prediction screen ever
that was as close as I'm ever going to get
and here's a thing everybody was like
the reason that Liv and Raquel
are going to win is because Becky Lynch
is going to turn on Larry Volkeria
and just fucking beat her up together
that United States
Championship offer.
And then they did that angle
the next damn raw.
Intercontinental.
Oh yeah, it is.
It is a good.
You could have just done that
on the pay-per-view
and let me have my victory.
Do you think the reason
why they did it
was because of what happens
in the main event
and we're like,
we can't piss them off twice?
I think they just wanted to swir.
I think they wanted to swerp.
I think they thought
that people would think
like I thought
that they've already announced
it's going to be these guys
at
NXT on Tuesday
I think they wanted something special
for the raw after
rest of media on Monday.
I think they wanted
a title change there as well.
So I think those factors
came into it. They were like, well, we're going to plan ahead
and go, we'll give them something to
remember. If you stick around over the whole weekend,
you're going to have something to remember.
I just,
I'm annoyed about that. And to be fair,
liable Kirill, I love her
fucking entrance with the wings.
Yeah.
You know? Oh, I love.
that. Great stuff. You got to root for
the Irish connection. You got to love that.
But I thought the match
was good. Johnny's
thoughts. It was decent.
It wasn't the best tag team
match that I've seen Liv Morgan and
Raquel Rodriguez have because I think
they've had some absolute
bangers over the last couple of months
or so, like against some
really good opponents.
But this
sort of never really
felt like it got into
that high gear.
Like the rematch on Raw was actually
probably better than this match, I thought.
But I think the thing
that sticks out with me is I feel
really bad for Bailey
that she ends up
missing out on
WrestleMania, not
because she's legitimately injured,
but because of
like the whole angle
that's being played out with
Becky and Lyra.
So, you know,
Bailey ends up paying the price for that and missing out on the bigger fare of the year.
So I do have a few, I have a few thoughts.
I have a few thoughts on that and a couple of other things.
So I do want to put across that Liv Morgan has been doing the best work of her career
since joining Judgment Day and being paired up with Dominic.
She's been phenomenal in that sort of obnoxious role that she's been put in.
This is the best use of Raquel Lynch that you're going to get, not Raquel Rodriguez,
Um, they have, they tried really hard to make her a solo thing and she, she's just devoid of personality unless paired with Liv.
Like that, they work so well together and this is the best use for her.
I, it's probably going to be, was it revealed who attacked Bailey or is it a mystery thing?
It's still a mystery at this point.
So obviously it's going to be Becky Lynch. And I think that's what they're building to is Becky versus Bailey.
Because Becky's, or Bailey did an interview.
recently talking about how she's not viewed on the same level as Charlotte and Becky Lynch.
That's what I was going to say.
Even that feels like it feels a bit too close to the whole Jade Naomi Bianca Bellas storyline as well.
That I agree with.
My brother said good old Triple H picking out the same four storylines that he always does.
But I do you think that I yes, well, AAA knows four storylines.
That's it.
But I feel like this is just going to lead to Becky versus Bealey
on the line, which I don't hate.
You know, obviously, you know, you want Beale to have a
WrestleMania, have a storyline, whatever.
You remember that pro wrestling is all about storylines and leading to the next bit.
It's always about advancing to the next part.
And this is just a cog in the wheel to get to...
Well, in the...
I mean, Bailey did just win the women.
She won the world title, the women's world title last WrestleMania as well.
So it's not like, she's not devoid of opportunities.
I think Bailey is just easy to overlook, to be honest with you.
There's just something about her that doesn't stick out as well.
But she's so good, though.
She's very good.
And I think that she's a good hand.
And I think she's got like that Ricky Steamboat thing?
Like Ricky Steamboat.
I don't know.
I just think good hand can always turn up in the main event, but like was never seen on the same level as like Rick Flair.
maybe i just think if you work bealee versus ecky lynch right now that's going to do one this
and both of them it'll do a lot for billy i think that's not a bad thing you know what you mean
be like you said she was rest of mealy last year she's going to be in rest of minas again she's been
in rest of meetings before having her off one rest of media i don't think it's a big deal because
it's an angle it's leading to something else you know anyway and then stone cold like runs her over
yeah and it's still cold stevaast immediately after this is the stone cold stevast a bit
where he runs over an old lady and then tells everybody,
hey, we did really well, and a lot of people are here in that fun.
He didn't.
He didn't.
He said, we did it, but you didn't do fucking anything, man.
He hit that woman with an ATD.
That's what he did.
He didn't even hit her properly.
No.
Lazy mother.
He didn't.
Come on, man.
So, next up is the main event, which I imagine we will be,
will be maybe a lengthy topic for discussion.
Cody Rhodes defends the WB championship against John Sina.
The buildup for this was a head scratcher, obviously,
because it had a great moment and then weeks of kind of confusion
and people not being around.
So John Sina, of course, turned heel on Cody Rhodes at the Elimination Chamber.
When the Rock basically wanted Cody to align with him,
Cody told him to go fuck himself quite literally.
literally, and John Sina celebrated and then revealed that he had already been in a partnership
of the Rock by kicking Cody in the balls. And then Travis Scott, a rapper that I don't really
think much of anything about, got involved and potentially ruptured Cody's eardrum by
shoot slapping him in the side of the head. That led to The Rock not showing up at all for weeks
and not even at WrestleMania
and then doing a confusing interview
afterwards saying that the final boss
character is done, which,
what?
I think
the context of that
interview was that he meant
the match at WrestleMania
should have just been Cody Rhodes and John Cena.
I don't think
the context of what he said meant
that the final boss character was done
for good.
No, no, no.
Then there should have been an explanation
for why the Rock wasn't there then.
But correct.
And also I think that if
if the Rock
said the match should have been
Cody Rhodes versus John Cena
without the Rock involved, I'm like
that's fine. But
then Travis Scott got involved.
Why is Travis Scott there and not the Rock?
Like that's
why
why is he there?
Nobody's talent is why Travis Scott just turns up to
fuck over Cody Rhodes. The Rock
makes sense in the storyline they're telling.
fair enough
why does
Travis Scott
just get to
walk around
backstage and they
come out and interfere
like that's not
being made clear
the rock
should have done a better
job
of expanding
and to be fair
the rock did say
the way it went down
that's not exactly
the way I would have done it
I'm like
well then fucking do it
you leasy prick
like what the fuck
they're in fucking Hawaii
come on
do it
right
that's part of it
I didn't like
the Travis Scott
stuff, but I didn't like the Travis Scott stuff at all.
I don't see why he should be involved.
I think a lot of people are like that, too.
Well, I mean, especially you look at Cody Rhodes, slab of beef.
You look at John Cini, even though he's not nearly as big as he used to be, slab of beef.
And then you look at Travis Scott, who is 130 pounds if he's lucky.
So having him involved physically is a fucking joke.
Correct.
But anyway, yeah, so the buildup, Rock's not around.
Trappist Scott's not around.
Sina's only there for a couple of shows in the two-month build,
and a lot of it is just Cody coming out and promoting the match on his own.
So we have the main events.
A lot of people are not fans of it.
So let's talk about the match itself.
What are your thoughts?
I thought the match was fine.
It was very slow, but I think that was on purpose.
A lot of the matches at WrestleMania had been very fast-paced
and very, like, in your face.
and Sina has come back to destroy the WWE or whatever.
It makes sense that he would slow things down
and do like a different kind of match.
I didn't hate the match.
I didn't, I wasn't like wide by it as much as I was
by a lot of the other matches on Rustinia.
I think that was by design.
I think they did that on purpose.
But I will say, like you had mentioned earlier,
night one ended with the heel
very clearly going on top
night two very clearly ended with the heel going on top
I don't know if I would have done that
downer down at WrestleMania for sure
very interesting it's a very interesting way to do things
I don't disagree with
the winner I thought
if that's what you're going to do
have johnson to win and then have cody roads
beat him later on fair enough right
Cody can chase the bout.
That's not a big deal.
Cody's still going to be a fierce.
Problem that we pointed out a moment ago
was that the crowd kept booing Cody Rhodes.
And I've never, never, and I've been to crowds,
I've seen shows.
People love Cody Rhodes.
That rest of media audience is not indicative of the wider audience.
People love Cody Rhodes.
I think it might be a Rock Hogan thing from 2002
where people were just happy to see John Sina.
Yeah.
You know what you mean?
They like, this is John Sina's last run.
We're happy to see him.
We don't want to see who he's up against.
And I don't know if that's what they're going for.
But I don't hate it.
I think Cody is a good guy to chase the belt.
I hope they've done a really good job of Cody as champion.
ironically enough as John
Cena used to be the guy that could
the baby face that could just hold the belt
forever. It doesn't happen to she has the championship
and I feel like
he's going to get back to that soon.
Yeah. Once his Cody Rhodes
will just be the champion for a long time.
Well yeah I mean Cody was champion for a year
he won it at last WrestleMania and
he did. And Triple H who's booking this
is an NWA guy and baby faces
never hold the championship for very long in the NWA.
You're mentioning the Cody getting booed thing.
It's very, and because it's, your theory is because he was facing Sina, and it's one of Sina, it's,
it's seen as last WrestleMania.
And so people are just kind of there.
It kind of reminds me, I remember hearing, like, Henry Rollins talk about being a kid and
seeing, like, ACDC play.
And the opening band was, I think it was, I think it was.
I think it was Van Halen.
Like early Van Halen while they were still, like, getting established,
and they were getting booed.
And, like, of course, David Lee Roth, is David Lee Roth.
He didn't give a shit.
He still was, you know, performing.
But it was just, he was mentioning, like,
you're going to get booed no matter what,
because the people are there to see ACDC,
and you are an obstacle keeping them from seeing ACDC.
Right.
John, where are your thoughts?
I mean, Kevin was a lot more complimentary about
the match than I probably would be.
Yeah, go for it, bud.
It was, I know it was
by design, like
Sina wrestling as a heel and trying
not to do anything
flashy or anything,
which it's fair enough, but
this is the main event of
WrestleMania, the main event of
two days of WrestleMania,
and
grief, it was just a boring
match, like, it just
felt like it dragged on,
and on and then that's before you get into all the
video that happened at the end as well like like you say Travis Scott
who hasn't said one word on WW TV so like why are we supposed to care about him or
see him as a big deal because unless you know who Travis Scott is and like
have an idea of what his personality is I you know I don't I have
no reason to care about this guy whatsoever.
So to have him show up and very slowly meander his way down to the ring
and like slow down what was already like a painfully slow match.
And then like it just makes Cody look like an idiot as well.
Like yeah, he's got the title and he could hit Sina with the belt and he kind of pulls back
and Sina's begging off
and then he falls for like
I don't know what it was like an eye poke
or a kick to the groin or something
it's like Jesus it makes
Cody look like an idiot as well
and the whole lack of the rock being there
is just
it's absolutely baffling
that they would start this storyline
with Tina turning heel
with the rock
like the whole premise
was someone selling this all
to the rock and for him to like you know have sena sell his soul to him and then there's no follow-up
no mention of the rock whatsoever for weeks on end like well what the fuck was the point of that in the
first place why didn't they save the heel turn for rassalmania where sena could have done it on
his own steam without the rock being involved at all because the rock being there at
elimination chamber and doing all of his like you know it sets up like hogging exactly and that
expectation just leads to disappointment when he doesn't show up so for him to come out afterwards
and start like saying oh i wasn't needed i wanted to put the spotlight on those guys it's like dude you've
been in this business for so long you've made movies you know how to tell a story
surely you can see how that is going to be
so unsatisfying to so many people
I don't know
you got to know that the end of this is important
you're the rock you're involved in this
you have to know that your involvement in this
is going to be important to the story
well so the rock is years of
especially after leaving wrestling
of basically putting in
evidence
that he is a very egosentering
person and is mainly concerned about his own shit.
The contract that, you know, when you bring him into a movie, he can't lose a fight, you know,
like that is established.
That is a thing he's done.
Him attempting to strongarm the DC movie universe by that terrible Black Adam movie that took
way too long to fucking make and put out that was terrible and nobody liked.
And then trying to, you know, get it to tie into the larger DC universe with bringing in
Henry Cavill.
I mean, it was so bad that they reset their universe.
I mean, that's just it.
Have you seen that film?
Black Adam?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's dreadful.
You both seen it?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Can we talk about that in the show sometime?
Sure.
Because, like, I like the JSA, and I like Pierce Brosnan as Dr. Fate, brilliant casting.
Like, probably a shining moment in that movie is in that role.
But...
Irish.
Once again, Irish ones sticking out.
You know what I mean?
But, yeah.
Best...
Bond.
So, really, best bond.
Not Connery.
Oh, listen.
Gold and I was great.
Dad another day was shite.
Yeah.
So...
It's fucking woo.
So, anyway, like, I would not put it.
it passed because like the Rock's explanation was like oh tickets the elimination chamber weren't
selling that well so Ari Emanuel asked me to come in and do some stuff I really don't believe
that like no I don't believe that either because they've been making so much money and their
attendance have been so high I refuse to believe that one slow ticket sale for an event was
enough for them to just completely crumple up the restomania build and throw it off the
fucking window.
Especially because...
Hulk Hogan levels of bullshit.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that was the rumor that the whole
the Becky Lynch thing as well as that Becky
wanted to save the heel turn for Raw
and not do it at WrestleMania as well.
So, like, there's a...
There might be too many people with,
you know, an ear for creative control
is, I guess what I'm saying.
But yeah, no, I absolutely...
Because, I mean, like, the Rock, his whole
trying to strong arm his way into main eventing last year
against Roman and the backlash being so strong that they had to pivot and then then act like
that was the plan the whole fucking time.
Yes.
One thing I liked about that was it very clearly showed that people wanted Cody Rhodes.
Yes.
And I think that if anything has been learned from this, it's that this is just another way to get more shine on Cody Rhodes.
Yeah.
I think the end result of this is going to be more like props to Cody Rhodes, which I think,
in the long term
I'm done with
but in the short term
I feel like
there was a missed opportunity
at this rest of media
Rock should have been here
yeah I mean obviously
you should have been there
and it's kind of almost
an excusable for him not to be there
because that's what that Pat McAfee interview
was it was just excuses
for why I wasn't there
it was not acceptable
yeah it was just not like he could say it
but you're like that's not great
we don't buy us
Yeah. Well, and then, of course, like, The Rock always breaking K-Fave immediately after these things in the press conferences,
talking about the character he plays and, like, all this great work and we're creating these moments. This is weird.
But I hate press conferences at wrestling events anyway, because I feel like it defeats the whole fucking purpose of what you're doing.
Anyway. Right.
Anyway, yeah, it's, it is apparent that, you know, the Rock has his creative control and that he,
he gets to overrule
what Triple H is doing
booking-wise.
I mean, you know,
I think it's the right move that
Cina won the title.
I just think the way it all played out.
The road there
and the match itself was just not
good for what I understand.
It was bumpy.
And to his credit,
Cody Rhodes did the best he could.
Cody Rhodes cut some very, very good promos.
And even whenever he was
in the ring with Sina, right?
There were, that's people used to say.
If he can hang with Sina, he can hang with anybody.
He hung with Sina.
Yeah.
He, well,
it was, I, the last problem he did, right?
Like, he fucking pulled some good stuff out of his, of his hat.
I was really impressed with, like,
hi, he was able to turn the crowd back on his side.
Well, I mean, Cody is his dad's son.
I mean, Dusty, one of the best promos of all time.
I will say that I didn't care for
Cody having the belt
and thinking about hitting John with it
and then not hitting John with it
because it kind of goes to this point where I don't know
why we're afraid of having a baby face with an edge
because like Sina
kicked you in the dick, beat you up at the end of
Elimination Chamber, he's mocked you, he's derided you,
he's tried to say that you are a pretender,
why are you going to show mercy now?
like there's nothing wrong with the baby face having an edge to him
because like Dusty would have absolutely taken that shot
like that is a very old school thing for the baby face to be like
that's the heel I'm not going to show him any mercy
because he's not going to show me any mercy
but also to like what we kind of pointed to earlier
it's very similar to the end of the Logan Paul AJ Styles match
where styles have the opportunity to do something to finish the job
and he didn't because he's a good guy
in the bag I took advantage of him.
Like, well, that happened twice in one show
and it's, you know,
it's no sporic stories.
You know, it's four stories.
What I'm talking about?
To have that kind of stuff play out twice
on the same night on WrestleMania
is a bit telling.
And it's a bit of a shame as well
because you're like, this could have been...
I think everybody
is annoyed about the end
of the scene of a match.
Yeah.
Not the result of the Cina match.
I think we all were like Cina's supposed to win.
I think everybody's annoyed at the way the ending went on.
That could have been booked much better.
And yet the Rock should have been involved.
If the Rock was involved, we would have bought it a lot more than if Travis Scott got in the fucking ring, right?
That doesn't make any sense.
A lot of it was a little bit just unbelievable.
but not in a good way.
I don't believe
why Travis Scott would be here.
I don't know why this would happen.
I don't, yeah, like you said,
I don't know why Cody Rhodes
wouldn't just take advantage
when he gets a chance
because, like, we pointed out
a lot during the show,
the pretense of it being good guy
versus a guy
and realistic is out the window.
If we're doing a show like this,
it would make sense
that Cody Rhodes would do what he can do
to beat John Sina
and to stop John Sina
from running away
with the championship
like he said he would do
and for Cody Rose
to not do that
doesn't make Cody look great
I will admit to that
I didn't think
a lot of it didn't make Cody look too bad
but I do admit that like
if the storyline
going into this was
Cody Rhodes
has to stop John Sina
from just taking the belt
and running off
with it, then
Cody Roads could have done a little bit more
to try and stop
John Cena from taking the belt and running away
with it, you know?
So,
I don't know.
And what I find really funny was
on the raw after
WrestleMania,
John Cena does this whole count down where he says
everybody got 28 dates left.
What are you going to do about it?
and his clear next challenger
is going to be Randy Orton
and I'm like man
that's really funny because
there have been many
many years to me as a wrestling fan
where I was sick to the back teeth
stick to the back teeth
to seeing Randy Orton versus John Cena
and they were like that's what we're going to do
I'm like that's
And again, I don't hate that.
If it's the last time, you got to run it back.
You got to run it at some point.
Right now?
I think Randy...
It's been so long since they've had a match together as well.
So it's not like...
And Rating's...
It's been a bit.
That's almost 10 years ago.
It's 2016, yeah.
Yeah, I was said 2016.
This is random gas, you know.
So...
That's right.
And yeah, you know, Randy,
Jordan John,
seen that they both get on in years.
Yep.
So real quick,
before we get to final thoughts,
I do want to point out,
Russell,
WrestleMania 41 is the most successful
and highest grossing event in WB history.
It was also the most viewed
WrestleMania of all time,
which is up 114%
for the record
it's set at last year's event.
So regardless of...
Can we clarify the fact?
Yes.
Really quickly clarify the fact
that last
year it was not on Netflix.
This year, it's been the most...
Well, it might have been a Netflix for you guys.
I think it was on Peacock in America, though.
It was on Netflix for us.
For most of the world, it was on Netflix.
So I would say the reason it's the most viewed
WrestleMania is because it's the most easy accessible wrestling media.
Yes.
We used to watch it on the network, which I loved.
I love the network, but that's for Restifans.
Netflix, if you're on Netflix at that time and see the rest media is on, you'd be like, I'll give it a go, I'll give it a watch.
It used to watch Rest Media, I'll watch it now.
Why do you think that Netflix's numbers for Restimedia are so much bigger than that was whenever it was on fucking whatever TV show was on?
Because now worldwide, people are able to access it easier.
So I would say that, yes, Rest Media this year was much more accessible than last year's.
Yeah.
And that's why the viewership has gone up.
What's funny is, I remember last year,
I feel like I remember last year they announced like 80,000 attendance both nights.
But apparently they didn't, because this year was like 60,000 both nights and is the highest
in rest media.
And I was sure last year was like 80,000.
So I'm very confused.
So I'm going to look that up.
But while I do.
If you guys want to just do a quick summary of just overall, how you felt it did.
The episode's getting, we're getting a little long.
We already knew it was going to be a long one.
I don't want it to be over two hours, and it's looking like we're going to get close to that.
We'll do two nights.
Two nights.
So anyway, yeah, what were your, all in all, what were your thoughts?
John, do you want me to do them?
I mean, I think between the two nights, I think there was,
you know, one very good show.
Like if you take pretty much the undercard from the Sunday
and the main event from the Saturday,
I think that would be a hell of a WrestleMania.
Yes.
There was a lot of stuff on there that was just kind of,
it was okay, it wasn't bad,
it just didn't necessarily feel WrestleMania worthy.
I agree with that.
I don't want to go back to the days when WrestleMania was seven hours long.
But I do think that most of night two,
I then took the main event,
the opener,
and the 5-2-A-night match from night one,
and combined them,
that's your WrestleMania.
That's, that would have been great.
But again, that would have been like seven hours long.
So, Dylan, to clarify,
night one of WrestleMania 40 did 60,00036.
night two did 60,203.
So that's WrestleMania 40.
WrestleMania 41,
Night 1 did 57,037, so less than night 1 in the previous year.
But night 2 did 60,343.
So they did a little over 100 more than they did last year on night two.
Okay, I think that's bullshit.
So.
Because I mean, it's wrestling.
numbers so yeah you got to take it with a
good pinch of
exactly it's all
it's all nonsense so anyway folks speaking of
nonsense we're going to go ahead and wrap
her up
uh
John what your movie count out
I am at
329
329
uh
was the last one you watched
uh it was a movie
called six weeks
with Dudley Moore
and Mary Tyler Moore
and
It was about a politician who befriends a dying kid, and then, yeah, they kind of hang out and there's a guy.
And it's very sad.
It's exactly the pick me up I needed when I got home from work today.
Dylan, I understand that you are busy with a new project.
Do you?
What's that?
Aren't you doing radio now?
Oh, you saw on Instagram?
Yeah.
Okay.
This is funny because I'm going to talk about this and I and the two to three episodes aren't going to mention the radio at all.
So that's funny.
But, yes, I have a new radio show.
Try three.
Three episodes are not going to have any mention.
Unless you mentioned it last week, then it's four.
I was going to, but I was too high.
So a month from now, remember that Dylan has a radio show.
My radio show, it's a local radio show in Atlanta,
but the good thing about it is you can access it worldwide.
You can access it online.
It's ByncedigitalRadio.coded UK, I think.
And, oh, I have the flyer.
Bynce Digital Radio.competentU.K.
There it is.
Right here.
There's one of these ones.
That one right.
If you go there on Monday nights, 9 to 11, UK time.
Corey, you can probably do the math and say what that is.
Five hours.
It's five hours different.
So, yeah, it would be 4 o'clock.
4 o'clock.
I'm going to be playing loads of really cool fucking rock music.
I already have my playlist for next week written down.
By next week, I mean three weeks ago.
Three or four weeks ago.
Yeah.
But if you like Jeff Buckley or Pearl Jam or System of a Dawn, tune in because they will be on the show.
That's my thing.
I'm so excited to you back in the radio.
I'm super jazzed by the man.
It's going to be really good.
It'll sound like I'm not jazzed about it the next three weeks because I'm not talking about it.
But don't, it's not important about that.
Please tune in the radio.
You can text in.
you can like WhatsApp me during the show
and I'll like read your
Last week we were talking about
musicians
that are also vampires
Okay
And I said
Billy Corgan looks like
Nosphiratu
The vampire
Yeah especially if you're in the Adore area
Or the was it
Machina
The god of machines or whatever
I would say Ador for sure
Right
Very like that's...
So we had a whole conversation about who is a vampire and also a musician.
And somebody said, Jared Lito, and I'm like, you're being too literal there.
Because he was morbious.
He was moribious.
Not cool.
What about vampire weekend?
They're not a real band or a real vampire.
They're only vampires on the weekends, not the weekdays.
My argument against Jarlito was he's not a real musician.
fuck 30 seconds to Mars
so anyway
I have my other podcast
has been on break for a little bit
because of illness and injury
and other unpleasant things going on
there'll be an episode soon
but
but it's because Becky Lynch
beat you up backstage before us media
it did and then she took over the show
and renamed it and it's something else I even know what it's called now
but anyway
we'll see you all next time
where you will be
I think next week would be
Japanese Spider-Man.
So enjoy a watch-long of us
with Japanese Spider-Man.
Because then the week after is the drunk one.
Oh, I can't wait to watch Japanese Spider-Man
for the first time and then later on get drunk and watch it.
And then later on talk about Corey going to space.
Yep.
I guess me.
And then we have a conversation about venom in between that.
We do, yeah.
Or do we?
So anyway.
You'll never know.
You've got to find out.
Until next time though
Goodbye
Goodbye
Bye
Bye
