The Smark Avengers - Who Wins the Marvel Bracket?! Our Tournament Gets CHAOTIC

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

The Marvel Hero side of the tournament is officially COMPLETE — and things got way more chaotic than anyone expected. In this episode, Corey, Dylan, and Jon finish the Marvel Heroes bracket in their ongoing Marvel vs DC Tournament, playing out every matchup from the first round all the way to a shocking final winner. Using comic lore, power scaling, and pure fan logic… plus a brand-new chaos mechanic that throws everything off the rails. ⚔️ Matchups include: Spider-Man vs Captain America Hulk vs Doctor Strange Scarlet Witch vs Gambit Rogue vs Deadpool Storm vs Daredevil And more wild Marvel showdowns Who dominates based on raw power? Who wins with brains, strategy, or luck? And which fight completely breaks the bracket? If you love Marvel Comics, superhero debates, power rankings, “who would win” arguments, and unhinged tournament energy, this episode is required listening. 💬 Join the Debate Who do YOU think should’ve won the Marvel bracket? Which matchup was the most ridiculous? Let us know in the comments! 👍 Like the video 🔔 Subscribe for more Marvel vs DC tournament episodes, comic breakdowns, and chaotic debates Click the link for Dylan's radio show!: http://www.bouncedigitalradio.co.uk Click the link for Dylan's Twitch stream: http://Twitch.tv/spookylaroux Click the link for Jon's Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/bigjonbowski/ Click the link for Corey's project "Henry's Usual": https://www.tumblr.com/henrysusual Click the link for Corey's show "Large Old Cup": https://open.spotify.com/show/2YHMppnl9inQevwLIxR64f

okay are you ready to go yeah i've been recording okay so now we have to come up with something silly to say to be the intro or we just get really meta about it and just act like this is what we discussed would be the intro yeah we wrote this dine we wrote dine before the show started we wrote Dine that we were going to if fake entered the show where we talked about how we wrote it done. We wrote it down in extreme detail. It's going to be comedy gold.

Yeah. Guys, I lost my script. I don't know what to say. I kept wondering, well, we're going to have to write a new one. Then we get a pen. And then John rushes in and says that all the margarine's gone. But when I looked on,

at the page that I'm writing John has said oh I've lost my script oh no so I wrote that into the script so John lost the script

on purpose I mean I wrote on that I told John that he that I wrote down that he lost his script on purpose and that I'm writing

me saying this is all really bad I'm like this inter is going to go on forever I'm spiraling spiraling so Hi everybody, welcome to Spark Avengers

My name's Corey No! With me is Dylan and John. How's it going, guys? Hello. Yeah, good. Good. Yeah.

So, we were discussing talking about the Kang Dynasty storyline as the episode today, but that was becoming to be a bit of a bear still, so we need a little more time to get that prepped. So instead, we thought we would go ahead and begin going through our Marvel versus D.C. tournament.

For those who have been listening, you know that this is already like, this is going to be episode six of this entire process from start to finish. We've had episodes dedicated to picking the participants. We had one episode dedicated to actually taking the participants and putting them into a bracket. And now it's finally time for some first round matches. Are you guys excited? Sure. Yeah. So I come here is for the enthusiasm.

Well, I was written on the script for me to say, so. It says Dylan demurely. Yeah. Oh, okay. So, so yeah, guys, what we're going to do is we're going to switch to our bracket. And we're going to go through the matches one by one and figure out who we think will win. There's three of us here. So I think it's only fair if we win by either unanimous decision or we leave it to fate.

My rationale for this is pretty simple. When you have like the NCAA tournament for basketball or I'm sure it works similarly in tournaments and other sports out there. But there's always like the juggernaut teams, the people that are the one seeds, they're going to go through and steamroll everybody in front of them. And then you find these weird little plucky teams that like are ranked number 12 in their like some small prep school out of Virginia and they somehow beat like a top dog. And you're okay, well, things have now gotten weird. Brackets have been busted, so to speak. So the idea behind this is as we're going through these first round matches, we're going to kind of just genuinely discuss the participants how we think they match against each other where any potential weaknesses would be. that sort of deal standard comic book fanboy talk but then we're going to come to a vote and the vote

is simple either it's unanimous and we have a clear winner or we go to the wheel and with the wheel we're going to spin it and on that wheel is our names a couple of different times to kind of add to the drama and the variety of it and whoever the wheel lands on their votes the winning vote and we have a potential upset. We could see the Taskmaster beat Apocalypse. We could see Green Arrow beat Superman, all by leaving it to fate, which is brave of us, I think.

I'd say it's genius of us. Let's give ourselves a pat on the back here. I think it's the smartest. No other podcast could have come up with this because they're all stupid, but we came up with it because we're really smart and cool and smart and cool. And also handsome.

Yeah. And really smart. We have cool. We have great financial resources behind us, loving families. Yeah, yeah. We're smart, though. You can't win them all. We're smart, though.

So that's what we're going to do. We're going to go through the Marvel side of the bracket, kind of depending, and we're going to play it by year. We've not done this before, so we don't, don't know if you could do an entire side of the bracket in one episode. It might be a couple. But we're going to start with the Marvel Heroes and we're going to take the first round matches and we're going to go all the way until we get our final winner on the Marvel hero side. That person will then face the winner of the Marvel villain side to decide who's

the representative for Marvel in the Marvel versus DC fight. So potentially we're going to work through that whole side or we might only get through the hero side. Before we advance though, do you guys have any questions I feel like we're probably only going to get to the heroes in this one episode I'll be honest with you yeah a lot of work in there's see how it goes

yeah we could be we could surprise ourselves we could be heroes just for one day as Bob Dylan's son Jacob covered very famously yeah that's that's where people know that song from the Godzilla movie soundtrack

so I'm telling you save that for a different episode all right so this is a fillable side of the bracket so I'll be filling this out as we go hopefully spinning the wheel won't completely break the stream and you know people will see it early we'll at least have a screenshot of a full

side of bracket when it's done regardless the very first matchup on the bracket were the first two Marvel heroes that came up on our wheel when we were setting them. Spider-Man and Captain America. Does anyone want to start on who they think is the clear winner between the two?

It's hard, right? I really want to say Spider-Man just because I don't want Captain America to win. But I also think that, like, Captain America does have those, like, decades of, like, hand-to-hand combat, and he has decades of fighting, big threats and staying calm

under pressure. He doesn't really, though. He was frozen in time for most of those decades. So he's only got like a couple of years on Spider-Man. And depending on if we're talking about the 1990s movie version of Captain America, he was only in

one fight before the war and he got his ass kick. We're obviously not talking about that guy because that was quite the inaccuracy. But I mean like imagine imagine, right, even if you spent a couple of years fighting in World War II, and you beat up Hitler, which is pretty impressive when you think about it.

And then you get frozen for ages, right? Even when you come out of being frozen, it's either around the same time that Peter Parker is Spider-Man or it's before that. I don't recall exactly when that is. But when Peter Parker got bitten, he was still like, what, 15 or whatever, 16, 17? Yeah. 18. One of the numbers, Steve Rogers is a grown-ass man who'd already been fighting Nazis.

So, like, once he came out of the thing, he's still ready to go. and luckily for him he came back in America were there a load in Nazis to beat up again lucky him yeah but Steve Rogers never fought Crusher Hogan so I will give you that

now here's the thing I obviously really want to vote for Spider-Man because Spider-Man has webs and Catamarka doesn't you know and for being real like Spider-Man has also beat the shit out of like really really big important people

so you know good as to him also he had like the the it was like captain universe or whatever at one point that's pretty impressive yeah you drafted her huh you drafted captain universe no what am i thinking of no you're having cause yeah cap like yeah i know who you're talking about though i'm just messing with you because you did in fact okay they did you didn't draft in fact draft captain universe well i'm just i mean you know there's an awful lot of stupidly characters in Marvel Comics.

Absolutely. I think comics in general. But you know what he mean? Like he's done an awful lot of very impressive stuff. You might say it's more impressive because he is so young, you know? So you're leaning on the fact that Captain America is older, essentially. Like he has more combat experience, and that would give him the advantage in a fight with Spider-Man. Really, I just wanted to talk about Captain America for a bit before I overwhelmingly voted for

Spider-Man. I mean, is that, is there anything else you want to say about Captain America? No, I think I've said it. I mean, Captain America has a lot of, I want to call it plot armor, because I feel like sometimes he gets treated like he's fucking Superman, and he's not, you know, I mean, he's still, like, enhanced superhuman male. but I always think about when they did the Avengers versus X-Men storyline and Gambit was fighting Captain America in like the jungle

and Gambit like basically charged up Captain America's costume and turned it into a bomb that he was wearing and it blew up and Captain America just shrugged it off and took out Gambit with a right hook I was like okay that's a little I don't think that is completely right because if that's the case if Captain America is that impervious to explosions in World War II, he should have just been running through minefields for everybody because it's not going to fucking phase him, apparently.

We don't know that's now, but that's why they sent him out to war, because they're like, oh, luckily he's impervious to fucking lawn mines. Apparently. But what I'm saying is it seems like the power scaling for Captain America seems to vary sometimes. And I feel like Spider-Man's is a bit more consistent. I'm surprising myself, because I'm coming out on the side of Spider-Man. But, like, the only thing that Captain America seems to have is he has a better calm under pressure sometimes. Like, he doesn't spiral like Spider-Man can.

But also, like, at the end of the day, Spidey Sense is a fucking huge advantage. Like, I feel like a lot of, like, Captain America's, you know, fighting style involves, like, catching people off guard with his agility or throwing the shield at some impossible geometric angle that's going to hit you. I feel like Spider-Man is able to out. I'll think that, you know? Yeah, I think so. Plus, he's a genius intellect. He's got web. I mean, Captain America is not dumb.

But, like, his intelligence is about, like, field work and, you know, like, military experience. Peter Parker is a certified genius. Right. Yeah, but I don't know. I think Captain America. his like fighting experience is gonna eke out spider man's like for like all the joke and we were doing earlier like he knows combat probably better than anyone else in the Marvel universe when it comes to

like hand-to-hand close quarters fighting so if he can get Spider-Man in that position where it's like you know just the two of them duke in that out then I think he's got it one. Okay, but what if the scenario isn't that they get into a hand-to-hand combat? Captain America's got that, like, you know, sort of... What if he's not able to, like, get things to go in his specific favor? Spider-Man's also very good. He always gets things to go in his favor.

Well, if you pay enough money. But Spider-Man's also very good at getting people... He wants them to get to. what if they start having like a joke off a comedy bit captain murg is not going to win he's he doesn't have any jokes spider mon's got loads of jokes you mean his type five is amazing

i didn't realize we were doing this based off jokes so in that case that's changed by thinking for the whole bracket now i think we're going to great well boy dead Deadpool's gonna have a great time we're clearly not going purely on jokes but i'm saying that if the argument is hand-to-hand combat, you know, fair enough. Captain America is very, very good,

hand-to-hand combat. But there's more to a fight than just that. I think if it came down to hand-down combat, yeah, probably Captain America. But overall, Spider-Man's got a lot going for him. Yeah. That I think would give him more of an edge than Captain America. And the thing is, we also need to know,

like, how does Captain America scale up to Spider-Man? like we you know like there is those panels where peter parker like did like fight wilson fisk and did fight the punisher and basically let them like break their bones by punching him now captain america is obviously an enhanced human being with with like superior strength but does he have more strength than spider man is he more durable than spider man i don't know those things i would say they're probably of a comparable limit of strength and power like Captain America with the Super Soldier formula in him

he can do some pretty amazing things so surely Spider-Man stronger I don't know in just terms of like God strength I wouldn't necessarily say so

Spider-Man could lift like 10 tons yeah well Captain American can lift 20 tons I thought you were going to say 11 tons. Can he? Captain America

is able to bench press 1,100 pounds. There you go. Estimated 800 up to 1,500. That is what we have for Captain America. Now let's see Spider-Man.

It's 10 tons. Unless they've changed it. Class 10. 10 tons of lift. there's a strength scale on is this going to be easy to use yeah put on no wheel no it's not going to bother with that um okay but no i think with spider man i think that

i think he's a little more rangy and the added benefits of like being able to you know like shoot web get to out of reach areas used to, you know, the wall clinging, even though Captain America is of a similar agility level of him, you know, Captain America still has to have something to jump off of or grab onto or Spider-Man can just walk up. So I think like, yeah, that's true. I think what we're going to see is like if, I think Spider-Man could beat him out of range for sure, because he's able to get placed his cap can't and also with the aided Spitey Sense and the web slingers. I think he

could diffuse the shield potentially being used as a weapon against him okay um i i think spidey sense is a huge advantage in his favor though like captain america might be able to be a better fighter but if peter knows when the hook the hits are coming captain america's gonna have to try to plan around that and i don't know how they do that right right so what are you saying i'm saying captain america so john says captain yeah I'm saying Spider-Man. I'm also saying Spider-Man. So, in our very first round, we're going to the wheel.

This is all you ever wanted. Oh, I love spinning the wheel. You know what. Well. Well. All right, that's the wheel for you. So for those at home, we spun a wheel with all of our names on it, and whoever won basically got to make the pick.

so in what i don't think many people would call an upset but definitely an upset when it came to our personal votes captain america will advance over spider man into the next round uh that's huge by the way that is a massive turn spider man out in the first round um you know that's we have the question of is in an upset like it's 13 versus 14 and upset but yeah it this that was a tough one something that's going to come with some also that we might end up going back to the wheel force we have Deadpool versus rogue in our second first round match um the thought I have immediately is dead I think facing Deadpool is is a war of attrition because of the healing factor because he can like endure severe amounts of pain that he can just keep going I think it

comes down to can rogue tire him out and I mean she's got super strength she's durable she could remove his healing factor by absorbing his powers I think rogue could take Deadpool I think that's a rough first round match for Deadpool

I kind of agree as well because like you know what's Deadpool really got to hurt Rogue as well like guns and swords which it's not going to do the trick against Rogue right so yeah okay

he is an unconventional thinker though yeah but I think that that that works against certain people I don't think that that's really look I'm also going to say rogue and it hurts because I love Deadpool but also like a lot of the stuff that

like you said Deadpool's got a hilly factor but like rogue could just touch him and steal a factor So then she is a healing factor Right So she has a healing factor And he's

Because does she Do people still momentarily lose their powers When Rogue absorbs them I don't Because if that's the case That ends the fucking fight right there If like he's already broken his legs and shit I don't think so

But also like Rogue has A litanya powers to go along with it So if she steals his healing factor And then also has all of the other fucking powers That she has like you know she's gonna win right that's a threat yeah that was a shame my two favorites are already i was about to say like that round went way faster than i was anticipating i was expecting that to be more of a debate and thinking i was coming in as the outsider but going actually

i think rogue's a bad matchup for deadpool not really like but i think that brogue yeah yeah yeah like realistically Whenever you look at how powerful rogue could be, you know, potentially. Yeah, and she's not in the mega. But that's it, they're always yapping about people being in a mega mutant or whatever. Oh, the guy that can control ice, definitely, but like not the person that can do fucking anything. You know? Crazy. Crazy.

You'd be happy enough? Yeah. Yeah. So Rogue advances. She's going to meet Captain America the next round. Uh-oh. In our third first round match, we have Captain Marvel Carrier. Danvers versus

the almighty Thor Thoughts on Captain Marvel versus Thor we got Cosmic versus God This one I think is much closer This is like This I think is tough Yeah You know

I don't really know The way the MCU is kind of built up Captain Marvel as being like the most powerful kind of character in the entire like Marvel Cinematic Universe

kind of glens itself to the comics as well I guess she's like supposed to be like pretty powerful at the same time Thor is the literal like god of thunder he's a god we've seen him like absorb plenty of punishment and dish out

plenty of punishment as well we've also seen him we've also seen him die as well Carol Danvers is really Carol Danvers is really an odd case because her powers have been getting boosted significantly as well as her role of responsibility

and that's not just in the MCU but that's like in the comics in general you know it wasn't that long ago like Miss Marvel was just a member of the Mighty Avengers and now she's Captain Marvel and like the head of her own team and like in charge of shield or some other some such thing

so there was a cognitive push by Marvel to try to make her their version of Wonder Woman, because for the very big differences between DC and Marvel, one of the things that DC has that Marvel doesn't is Marvel seems to really struggle with the idea of developing an iconic female character. Yeah. They've been, they've had attempts and there have been some that I would say are close, but I don't think anything's ever come close to Wonder Woman.

No. So that being said, you know, Thor deals with a lot of. cosmic bullshit as well the asgardians being kind of weird space people at times um i don't i mean that's just the thing about carol dander is they she's always got some other big boost coming out of her back pocket you know they've they've really done a good job of positioning her in that way i don't know i'm a little undecided right now what do you guys think I don't know I mean I'm leaning towards Thor

just because I think being a space guard and having the sort of power that he does because he's like absorbed in recent years like the Odin was it the Odin force or the Odin power whatever it is

he's like taking that on as well as the powers he had originally as well so he's like pretty souped up himself off these days and yeah I just think in a straight up knock down, drag out, smackdown

style fight that Thor is probably going to emerge victorious fair I don't know like if you're looking at just their parisettes I think it's really close really really close I don't really

know how to differentiate between the two of them. So I don't know. I'm really on the fence for this one. So let's kind of break down a little bit. You know, Thor is the literal god of thunder in Norse mythology. He is battle tested. He has proven a lot of experience.

A lot of wielding heavy power, as John has pointed out. A lot of experience, again, being an Avenger and being a hero on Earth and saving people and planets from demons and aliens and vampires and fucking everything in between. Carol Danvers is, you know, the hands-selected inheritor of like that Cree cosmic energy. She has evolved in her powers have changed with her, whether she was Miss Marvel to binary and, you know, even before taking on the full Captain Marvel moniker. She is from the United States Air Force, so there is a level of.

combat training and experience there like captain america would have um i think one of the things that kind of would help her is just she's got more ranged abilities than thor with the energy blasts i mean thor's got the hammer and he can call like lightning but i don't know if that's as versatile as being able just a point and shoot you know big hammer though yeah big hammer Yeah, I have a big hammer. He works for Triple H. Hey, oh. And he always won.

He always wins. Yeah, there you go. Except that year he was supposed to win that tournament. He looked kind of like the floor as well. Yeah, you don't see a girl beating Triple H. You know what I mean? Trying to think of there was an instant where somebody did or not. He had to have been pinned by a woman at some point in his career.

Like China, surely. yeah i some screwy finish with tristratus and some weird attitude era thing i don't know we're off topic yeah the fact that we can i mean if we're going purely based on whether or not we think thor is an analog to triple it then you know i think that's pretty correct yeah so you're gonna say thor dylan because i think there is that level of uncertainty at least with the two of us i'm going to say captain marvel and go back to the wheel I think that's fair Because I don't really know

Yeah it's tight Yeah Can you take me off the wheel And just spin up between you and John No that's the fun Is there's an advantage If it's me Can you just spin again?

Yeah I'll do that Oh It's not me So I landed on me So that means Captain Marvel Is going to advance past Thor I We're a very small podcast

we don't have a whole lot of listeners but I really truly want people to listen to this episode because they will fucking hate it we've knocked out Spider-Man, Deadpool and Thor in the first round they're gonna fucking hate us

but look at this drama we have if Thor, if Rogue and Captain Marvel advanced in their next, they're in the semis against each other it's long-term booking absolutely yeah Tony Khan this is how you book a tournament

all right our next our next first round match we have dr strange the master of the mystic arts the former uh sorcerer supreme against the incredible Hulk um we've seen this one happen before in the the return from planet Hulk if i'm not mistaken and thor and like Hulk kind of ended it rather briskly by breaking dr. Strange's fingers because if you can't that'll do it If you can't cast the spell, you can't cast the spell. Mm-hmm. That was his catchphrase. That's what Hulk said.

Hulk smash, and if you can't cast a spell, you can't cast a spell. Yeah, I mean, he was a dumb ass, so I get why he said that. Yeah. You know. So, so anyway, let's, I mean, let's go with the obvious thing is Dr. Strange is the master of the mystic arts. If there's a scenario in which Hulk cannot get near him, I think that Strange has a chance of winning this. He can simply banish the Hulk to another dimension. I don't know why they didn't do something like that with Planet Hulk instead of just like,

we'll put him on a rocket and send him into space. Weird idea when you literally have someone that could just put him somewhere in your group that voted to decide on what to do. Like they could do it instantly because putting him on a rocket and then send him that rocket to like a different planet. there's a lot of time involved with that you can't just shoot the rocket off and go well he's out of our hair forever because you can see the rocket

if you look up in the sky you can maybe like see him punching the shit out of the rocket you know like the rocket you get that in space it's going to take a long time whereas if we just open a portal and send him somewhere else and they close the portal you're like well there you go that was easy

yeah easy so we didn't spend a lot money on a fucking rocket that's Tony that's Tony Stark he'll drop money for nothing and the chicks for free. Well, he's Elon Musk and that he wants to show off all the stupid rockets. And lo and behold, it'll work. So, so anyway, like I said, we have, and this is actually an off topic question, but when they were voting on sending the Hulk to space,

was there any sort of, like, tension with Dr. Strange? Because they were, like, long-time partners and the defenders. Like, the defenders weren't a team with, like, a hideout or anything. Like, the whole idea was they would get together when they knew. needed to, but they're teammates. You think he'd be a more conflicted? It was really conflicted because he was like, I'm only doing the rocket thing because

if we were like standing face to face, boy, the Hulk would just break my fingers and I don't want that. I don't want to do that. So, yeah, I mean, the Hulk's the Hulk. He only gets, he only gets stronger and more durable and more basically unbeatable, the angrier he gets. So it would literally, for Dr. Strange

to win, it would need to be one of those, he immediately nullifies the Hulk before the Hulk can even get started. Mm-hmm. And that's a big ask. Yeah. John, where are your thoughts on it? I thought, basically, the Hulk is going to stop Dr. Strange from doing whatever, you know, party tricks he's going to try and bust out. before he can do it. So, like, he could easily just, like, do his little hand clap

and, like, send Dr. Strange flying into a wall and then while he's trying to shake it off because he's just basically a regular human being or could walk up and just, like, squash his head with his hands. Or his hands with his head. I don't know. He could do whatever he wants. He could do both.

So, yeah. I'm leaning towards the hole. So, Dylan, is that your pick as well? No. My pick is Dr. Strange. All right. Because let's look at the scenario. Hulk and Dr. Strange are looking at each other.

And the Hulk does his hand clap and blows away Dr. Strange into a wall, whatever. Right? That was the scenario? That's, yeah. Yeah? What if that's not the real Dr. Strange? What if that's like an astral projection or what if that's an illusion? what if Dr. Strange

isn't stupid enough to go toe to toe with the Hulk again what if he's our he's kind of proven he is stupid enough to go to toe to toe with the Hulk and then have his hands crushed so time and after that one time

you learn your lesson you're like I didn't do that Howard doesn't even want to fight the Hulk anymore right so what if he comes up with a way to incapacitate the Hulk that doesn't even involve fighting make it sound like the only way

he's going to combat the Hulk is by running away but what if he like we were saying what if instead of him shooting him off in a rocket what if he just like teleports him to a different planet the spell

and it's like if somebody else's problem I because after 10 seconds the match is over the bell has been wrong the Hulk has been out of the ring even if he comes back it's going to be like weeks later so the fight in this instance has been won by dr strange

i don't know it doesn't feel like it's no i think dr strange has enough magic knowledge to be able to find out a way to stop somebody whose only strength is being strong i think he must have enough knowledge of the mystic arts to be able to come up with a way to stop that one particular very easy to telegraph thing that happens in Marvel comics all the time. So a lot of people in Marvel comics are just big and strong and punch hard. At this point, if Dr. Strange has to figure out a way to stop big and strong and punch is hard, then I don't know if he can do anything. Well, because I was about to say, I mean, this is a situation where both have encountered

this type of enemy before on numerous occasions. Dr. Strange is constantly, like, facing things that would physically beat the absolute dog shit out of him like that's just giant cosmic horrors and whatnot and the Hulk is constantly fighting people who are of a very high degree of intelligence over him when he's in his Hulk form now we're not even considering the possibility this is smart Hulk you know because if it's smart Hulk then that's that's an added difficulty for strange to overcome uh if you get the Hulk with the level of the intelligence of Bruce Banner behind him and he's not just a mindless rage monster Oh, I thought you were going to do your thing, make your pick.

I'm still figuring it out. You want us to debate the idea of Smart Hulk versus Dr. Strait? So, I mean, so that's the factor is like, you know, we run into like, is this Dr. Strange who has the full magical array of being the Sorcerer Supreme? Because that does give him a bolster to his abilities, because he currently isn't. And is this currently Smart Hulk? Because I don't think it currently is. What if it's Smart Hulk? but dumb Dr. Strange.

It's Dr. Strange at his most arrogant. Yeah, just Mr. Mr. Some kind of setting them for Strange. Mr. Strange. That's like something we haven't really mentioned as well is Dr. Strange can be quite an arrogant prick at times where he kind of doesn't, you know,

take threats as seriously as maybe he should do. So maybe he would underestimate mate Hulk because he thinks he's this mindless rampaging brute that you can you know be easily and then that well he's a doctor doctor's a great egotistical but isn't like i don't know if it's smart hook there's one of the versions of the Hulk that's really like egotistical and and fix it or maestro it's not maestro maybe it is fix it do the gray one yeah yeah yeah like he's he's really like self-centered and egotistical and really selfish and stupid in that respect

you know so you know it's it's well I feel like the problem we have is we're just circulated around the sea of points well there's just a lot of yeah I mean when it comes down to it is Dr. Strange being smarter and but also arrogant is that going to go against

poorly against the invulnerable rage monster who also is quite dumb at times but has the potential to be smog an hour again yeah exactly they're they're surprisingly evenly matched in the worst way possible they're like two sides of the same

coin you want to do what I did Corey and just like abstain so if your name comes up he spin it again I mean we could do that because it sounds John is firmly team Hulk and you're firmly team Doctor Strange yeah so yeah we'll do that i'll put mine as a as a spin again option okay this is a good angle we come up with

on the fly at that yeah oh oh all right so dr strange is going to advance past the hulk that's an upset right there in my opinion fucking brag it's unbelievable yeah we are a nightmare for Disney sales is what we are. Oh, God. What are we doing? Oh, boy. So Dr. Strange is going to advance to the next round to face Captain Marvel in a very interesting, what area of Marvel is more neglected, magic or space. Our next first round matchup, however, is going to be firmly in the world of the mutants as Wolverine goes toe to toe with Domino.

Domino was the surprising pick that ended up in this tournament. to begin with, and I think it was just we couldn't, like, the luck powers are just a lot. Yeah. You know, there are a lot. It's the ability to influence things to go your way. Now, I will say this, that is a big, that's a big, that's a get. She also is incredibly well trained. She's a weapons master, you know, she, Wolverine has a healing factor and unbreakable bones,

but he can be slowed down. And Domino's the kind of person that's smart enough and skilled enough to slow him down. The question is, can she lead him in a fight? And I just kind of go back to sometimes the best, the only way to win is not to play, to quote the movie War Games. And I feel like Domino's luck power, if it was just Wolverine versus Domino and her power was there to like, what's the best possible scenario for me? I think there's a high chance that that power is get out of the fight.

Right. Kind of like when Darwin faced the Incredible Hulk And his evolving powers just said Nope teleport you to the farthest place from the Hulk possible Yeah I agree to respect I don't think that the solution would be get out of the fight But I feel like the solution would be

Something would happen To benefit Domino That would stop the fight Do you mean Some kind of circumstance would take over That would benefit Domino would benefit Domino. I think if we're being real about it,

if it was just a straight up hand-to-hand combat match, it's Wolverine, right? Domino is very, very well-trained, but they're just fighting, Wolverine. But I think, I think if we are taking the luck factor into account, which with Domino is pretty much all you can do, yeah, I do legitimately think that something,

if you're face-to-face with a bloodthirsty, deserker animal with fucking metal claws that will happily kill and eat you and you have luck-based powers there's a pretty good chance if you roll that dice that you'll find

a way to get out of that situation alive and incapacity at Wolverine somehow and it might just be I don't know like a bus falls on his head or something like but I feel like she would get out of it somehow intact which I think would

technically like TKO call her the winner of the fight all right John I mean that sounds like nonsense to me well this is all nonsense I think like luck powers are only going to take Domino so far

and like luck runs out eventually even for Domino so if it's like you say going against Wolverine in a straight up you know sort of hand-to-hand type fight or whatever Wolverine's got the edge in terms of fighting skills he's got the edge in terms of like

the berserker rage as well you piss him off enough he's gonna snap and then that red mist descends and you know game over right there yeah plus he's got the healing factor as well so anything that dono does throw at him he can pretty much shrug off and recover from. So, yeah, I don't know. This feels like a really one-sided fight to me.

Yeah, but don't know, is it gone, though? Okay, I... Which notoriously have done really well against Wolverine. Yeah, yeah. Yep. You just keep shooting them in the eyes, you know? I think the thing is, even if you do incapacitate Wolverine, it's not going to last long because of, like, you know,

Like, if you hit him with, like, a nerve toxin, it's going to fade off quicker than it would with another person. Mm-hmm. It's like, but she's still win the fight. You can knock out Wolverine. We talked about that when we were had our episode on how to kill Wolverine. You can knock him out. It takes a lot to knock him out, though, and he's not going to be out terribly long. But she still would win the fight.

If he's knocked out, she wins the fight. The referee raises her hand. Now, if he gets his heat back later on, that's fine. she's the winner of the match and the advances in the tournament. You know, you work it on the house shows a couple, you know, for a couple of weeks, see if the crowd's behind it and then you run the rematch.

Or if the card is, do it anyway. If the crowd's bored of this and wants it to end, just keep hammering it into the ground. Anyway, yeah. I don't know, Dylan. I think Wolverine, I think that there are definitely people in the tournament that could beat Wolverine.

I don't think Domino necessarily is one of them. I think it's a hard task to beat him. And I agree. It's just a bad draw for her. I think she could go against some other characters. But I mean, Domino's luck powers we've seen in, like, Hickman's, you know, or in the beginning of the Ben Percy X-Force, where she gets captured and experimented on by, like, the anti-Crocoa people. so like luck powers don't always mean you walk away it's a chance to walk away

you know it didn't stop her from getting kidnapped maybe it was lucky that she got kidnapped well she got her skin peeled off in like you know parts of her body so maybe it wasn't that lucky yeah does he know she has luck powers or i think a lot of people just see her and they go oh yeah man smoking hot albino lady I will say that I didn't think

Domino would make this list at all so in that respect she's incredibly lucky yeah so is this the sound that we're going to have to take it to the wheel because John and I are both on the side of Wolverine 100% all right and I'm willing to take that gap I'm willing to take this risk

and I believe in the power of luck I'm a gambler Domino I feel it's appropriate I believe that luck will see me through this day. Well, I tried. Told you. Luck runs out eventually.

Listen, John, I'm well aware that luck wants it eventually, all right? So, Wolverine is moving on to the next round. And meeting him is a potential interesting pairing. We have the man without fear, daredevil versus literally a god right now storm so on paper this is a bad one for daredevil um storms in a mega level not only has she been in a mega level mutant that's completely capable of controlling nature itself and all of weather but she's also been getting some pretty hefty upgrades in her solo run that i don't know if we want to take any consideration or not we might not want to because that that solo run is all about

power scaling and, like, inventing newer, bigger threats that she has to get newer and bigger powers to contend with, but... I think we should ignore that. Probably should, just for the sake of fairness, and that's not just John talking as the resident Daredevil fan. So, John, this is an uphill climb, and Daredevil's your boy. Do you have any words? I mean, Daredevil's got this, clearly.

All he has to do is throw his belly club and hit her in the head. and that's it, game over. Well, he's very lucky. You know this with Daredevil. Well, I don't know about that. I'd say he has. Yeah, that's incredibly unlucky would you think. Yeah.

I had the best run of things. He didn't have a skin peeled back, though, so maybe luck is on his side after all. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, see that? I mean, yeah, this is obviously very one-sided. I don't, I... You want to take it to the wheel.

I mean, I could try and, you know, make a case to the devil, but... If you want to take it to the wheel, we could take it to the wheel. That sounds like you're leading to witness, Your Honor, and I object to that. I mean, tournaments are based off of upsets. Yeah. Well, clearly not with Domino. You guys were very upset with that one. I don't know.

We did have Dr. Strange get past the Hulk. Listen, I feel like you were very insistent to take it to the wheel, and I don't want you badgering my client like that your client that's he let him answer he let him answer in his own time

under his own volition well after I have a consideration I think I'm going to go for dead I won this fight okay now that's it's it's it's it's two to one

so just because we're going to it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to go your way it wasn't two to one a moment ago This is shenanigans. Here we go. This is worse than if Domino B. Wolverine. Oh, no!

Upset, upset, upset. It's not an upset, Corey. Who did this? This is all on you. That was 100% you. John very clearly said, well, this is one-sided. It's pretty obvious he's going to win it. I knew like

that's my impression of you by the way this was all on you this could have been avoided this was written this was already right now in storm this that is that is unforgivable

cannot believe that folks do you believe in miracles I let Deadpool go you didn't like oh I order the wheel for Deadpool no I'm just saying we know that John

I know the Joe I know what you're saying I don't even try I didn't want him to put his boy out in the cold unless he had to and what do you know my job unbelievable

well we'll see if daredevil we'll see if Daredevil continue on that look because he will have to go against Wolverine in the next round and that's another tall order for him. I'm pretty sure Daredevil find a way past that one. All right. Dylan,

you might be changing your team here shortly because our next first round matchup is the Scarlet Witch, the most recently named Sorcerer Supreme, against Gambit. A character who was considered... Well, luckily only one of the wheel for this one. Gambit was considered it to be a sorcerer

supreme in the storyline that's upcoming. I didn't know that. Yeah, he's been fucking around with magic in Gail Simone's run. But you told me that. Yeah. So, yeah, put him in consideration. Hmm. It's because he used magic.

You get considered to be sorcery supreme. Yeah. Is that real? It seems like a pretty big prerequisite. Yeah, but just just using it means you're like, oh, yeah, you're like one of the big fucking magic guys. No, you're like, what? That's it? The Cosmic Marvel and Magic.

Marvel are very neglected spaces is all I'm going to say you what I mean like if you practice like magic once in your bedroom like you don't get a phone call from the guy like hey you're next in line to be sorcery supreme like what the fuck I just probably doing like card tricks as well that was his magic yeah I am not prepared I'm not prepared for this I'm not sorcerer supreme you're gonna have to fight the Hulk you're like ah what Oh boy. Yep. Yep. Yep. So that does put us to Scarlet Witch, very powerful magic user, a mutant in her own right with the ability to alter reality and probability against Gambit, who is a master thief, can basically turn anything he touches into a bomb. And we did discuss when we were building the bracket that Gambit does have that canon ability that if someone isn't aware that he's flirting with them to manipulate them, it works. But I feel like that works for most men.

The trick with that is we have to establish whether or not he's done that to the Scarlet Witch before or not. Because if they know about it, it doesn't work. She already knows. She probably knows about it because Gambit has been on X Factor with Quicksilver and a very, very brief forgettable run by Peter David. And I imagine Quicksilver would have immediately told his sister if he didn't already know. It's like, hey, by the way, don't let the fucking Cajun talk to you.

Gabbitt, I feel like, is a guy that comes with a warning label for most women. Even without the charm factor, it's probably like, we'll watch out for that guy. Yeah, he's going to get you into some trouble. You'll have fun, but it can always be fun. Mm, no. So, I mean, Gambit's clever. The whole deal about being a thief is the ability to get around shit. You shouldn't be able to.

Like I said, I mean, it looked in that fight that he had with Captain America until they just had Captain America shrug off having all of his clothes turned into a bomb. The Gambit had won that fight. So, I mean, he can surprise people. That's not out of the range of possibility. But he is against someone who, with three words, rendered the mutant population into, like, a percentage of what it used to be. well i will say in that defense that she did that and

didn't work on gambit so what do you think of that well maybe she should have been more specific and just said no more gambit now if she did say no more gambit would that actually work who's to say is that all the tape has she tried that trick recently i think she might have did it in one of the

Crocoa storylines where they had her, because they had her like use magic to implant the memories of mutants who died before they could be put into cerebro so that they could be resurrected. She did some bullshit like that, so she is very, very, very

powerful. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but can she make Captain America's clothes explode? They did a romance angle. She might have. There was a period of time where they were an item.

during the busiak run that's interesting yeah so my vote is scarlet witch I think she's too much of a powerhouse for him

and it does pain me to say that I can't even I can't even for the sake of fun go spin the wheel oh well tough we're spinning the wheel anyway all right Dylan this worked for you in the past

and it didn't work for you recently we're spinning the wheel if it lands on myself or john that's scarlet witch advancing and if it lands on dylan gamut pulls off a big upset well no no i landed on john so scarlet which will in fact advance past our our favorite mutant gambit This is why I'm not very good at gambling. I have no luck. Well, someone else who suffers from a crippling addiction, we have Iron Man up against Luke Cage.

My addiction isn't crippling, by the way. I want that on the record. Okay. Thank you. Your gambling addiction is not crippling. It's just severe. I don't know, but I call it an addiction. So we have Iron Man, Tony Stark.

genius inventor, a whole armory full of various fun weapons and gadgets at his disposal. Luke Cage from the streets and super durable and super strong, bullets bounce off of them. We have a guy whose armor is natural and a guy whose armor is invented. What are we thinking? I mean, Luke Cage is tough, but like Iron Man's got a lot of resources. Yeah. It's a lot of ways to beat you up. It's not just Iron Man armor, you know.

I feel that, like, Luke Cage is good. Again, if we're going, like, hand-to-hand combat, Luke Cage is good on, like, a, this straight-up, like, street-fight kind of thing. Tony Stark very rarely does a straight-up street-fight kind of thing. You know, he's always got some... He'll just shoot a fucking missile from space or whatever, you know? Yeah, that's also true.

I think another thing against Luke Cage's favor is Iron Man has absolutely fought people like Luke Cage. in the past, you know, super-powered individuals with superhuman strength that could peel his armor off or et cetera. So I think there's a level of familiarity in the fight going in for Ironman that I think that would give him an advantage. Right. Whereas how many times is Luke Cage for the robot, man? Seven? I think that's, I think that's the thing. Like, you know, you run into the problem where any time that somebody can create space and still hurt you is not going to be good for you. you know, there's a, to, to go with a D&D term or a D&D scenario, right?

When you level up, when you start out the game, Dungeons and Dragons, your barbarians and fighters are a lot stronger than your wizards and your sorcerers. Because wizards and sorcerers start weak. But when they grow, they grow exponentially, and your barbarians and fighters don't really. So, like, if you get to, like, level 14, 15, you're having characters that are able to call meteors from space and fly and rewrite time but your barbarian's abilities he can now hit you four times every turn instead of just the two so I think four times is pretty good though four times is pretty good but if I can

summon a meteor on top of your head that's not great just punched the meteor and you've got three more punches left so so I do think that Luke Cage is going into losing fight here I don't want to say that I like Luke Cage I love Luke Cage to get even bigger spotlight and showcase than he's getting but I think it's I think it's an uphill battle for him on this one so I'm gonna go iron I agree I'm gonna I agree all right so iron man I'm iron man sounds unanimous then is that true yes yeah okay so iron man will advance against scarlet witch and we'll have magic versus technology so we're gonna go into our second round matchups and we have captain America versus rogue.

So with Captain America and Rogue, we run into a kind of a similar issue. Rogue is incredibly durable. She can fly. She's super strong and she can also absorb your abilities. She wouldn't necessarily need to absorb Captain America's abilities because his are just enhanced physical, you know, being an advanced physical specimen, which she already is. Cap has, you know, got his combat. experience, his field knowledge, his, you know, I mean, that's really what he's got going against

him. It doesn't sound like a lot, but it can be. Rogue's led teams, Captain America's led teams. I want to say the girl has a shot at beaten Captain America. That sounds controversial to say. I would say 100% rogue. Because if we were like, what can Deadpool do hurt Rogue? you're like well what can captain america really do to hurt rogue you know i think i think rog's got that in the bag in theory i agree with you but i'm going to do what you didn't do with deadpool versus rogue and say captain america just because it gives them a fighting chance all right we're going to take it to the wheel i don't know how many times they've said this job but you're the bill out of this podcast.

It's me. It's not me. Here we go. Oh, it came close, John. It came close. But it landed on me, so that means Rogue is going to pull on paper and upset and advance past Captain America into the semis. All right.

Speaking of captains, though, we have someone Rogues very familiar with. We have Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers, against the master of the mystic arts, Dr. Strange. We have space versus magic. Like you said, a couple of times now, the two most neglected corners of Marvel. What are we thinking? I want to pick Captain Marvel just to see Rogue versus Captain Marvel. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. Long-term booking.

Long-term booking. I don't know. for me, I do think Strange has an advantage. I think a lot of Captain Marvel's stuff is she's getting more powerful. Strange is also very familiar with what it's like to wield massive

power and lose massive power. He's done it pretty frequently. I see him running into the, I mean, I could see him pulling the same playbook against Captain Marvel. Banish you to another dimension. She would have an easier time of coming back, I think, the holocaut. I mean, potentially. I don't know what her acumen towards magic is. I mean,

you have to make friends or, you know, learn how to wield it yourself if you're trying to navigate back from a different dimension than the one you were originally from. You have to find a path. But I don't think that that's unobtainable for somebody with, like, cosmic powers like Captain Marvel. I feel like slipping through dimensions is, kind of like a cosmic thing and it's like a lot of cosmic beings would have that kind of power anyway yeah i don't think that's her power set as well yeah i don't think that that's unreasonable think about it i think it's easier for her to travel through dimensions than the hulk would see just it's going to rip open a dimension i don't think so you know okay okay i will yield to you then

I will say that Captain Marvel will advance for Dr. Strange. And so we do have in our semifinals, Captain Marvel versus Roke. This bracket has taken such a turn in a way that I was not anticipating. I'm happy with it. We have heavy hitters, Spider-Man, Captain America, Deadpool, Captain Marvel, Thor, Dr. Strange, all eliminated. So up next, on our more grounded area, we have Wolverine. versus Daredevil what are we thinking

well you feel like Corey if all the heavy headers have been eliminated the smart thing we'd do is eliminate Wolverine and dead drill into the next bit are you daredevil in the next bit he beat

he beat Storm they could beat Wolverine I know John what do you think I mean like this is tough for me I love both characters I mean

It's got to be Wolverine probably But I am sort of rooting for Daredevil a little bit as well It's fun to root for the underdog I hope Daredevil wins this whole thing now Yeah Daredevil goes into face Marvel or DC And DC's represented by Dark Side For Doomsday

Yeah, Daredella wins, no problem So easy So you mentioned that yeah like Wolverine, if he can beat Storm, he can beat Wolverine. I don't know about that. The whole strategy beating Storm that John put up was throwing a stick and hitting Storm in the head.

Wolverine has a metal skull. That's a single bounce right off. Yeah, but John wasn't serious with a bit. I was serious what you talk about? You straight him! That was the scenario which we described. Now, it's all, It's on record. We can listen to the TOTA boys. We all know that it was a fake bit.

So, that being said, I think Wolverine. You think Daredevil. John, who do you think? I'm going to go Wolverine. Okay, so we're going to spin the wheel, Dylan. If it lands on you, Daredevil advances. This is a very big turn of events from the last one. I'm secretly pulling for you, Dan. Unfortunately, that has been misguided. That is a shame.

So that has fallen to me, which means Wolverine will advance, and the fairy tale Cinderella run for Daredevil has ended. I don't like that. we go rid of storm for now then all right our final of the second round matches we have scarlet witch versus Iron Man magic versus technology both incredibly powerful in their own ways

what are we thinking I don't know I want to say Iron Man because they feel like yeah because I feel that like in all the time that Ironman

has been around he's been in the Avengers he's seen things he's fought things like we were saying earlier like if he doesn't have some sort of like counter to somebody who is a mystic

and uses like magic he's been wasting his time because that stuff comes up a lot and he's fought them he's fought with them you know I don't see why he wouldn't have some sort of protocol to counteract a magic user, especially

somebody as powerful as Scarter Witch. I think as a smart and devious man, Tony Stark would be like, I got to watch out. She killed the mutants. What if she kills the robots? You know? Yeah, you actually make a really good point because he's been

on teams with her. He's like worked alongside her. He's also seen her sort of break bad as well. So he must know she's got that potential to be an enemy at some point and uh he's like batman like sort of he must have come up with sort of plans just in case that eventuality does happen so you can kind of you know stop i feel like yeah i feel like 20 star is the kind of guy that would do that out of all of them tony stark could be the one to be like all right we got to dedicate a little

of my resources to making sure that that shit doesn't happen. Right? Especially after like Hysevam happened, he's like, well, this is a mutant heavy. What if she does that, you know, she got rid of the mutants at the end of it? What if she just flips it

the other way? What if someday she's like, no more humans and then Tony Stark's fucked, right? Like, I feel like he would have some sort of way to counteract that. I was 100% going to vote for Scarlet Witch, but you've completely swayed me over to Iron Man now.

I didn't even get a chance to persuade you about storm, but... You know, and what's odd is I was, uh, my argument for Iron Man and all of this is that Iron Man's been dealing with magic users for a long time. That's one of those... The Mandarin. Exactly. One of the best. So, you know, Scarlet Witch, if anything, is always shown to be little more unhinged and not as disciplined with her magic as others have been in the past. So I think, like, the control element is, like, a big factor. If Scarlet Witch does break bad in the midst of the fight, Tony might have some more trouble. But is he, is that enough for him to get past it?

I don't want to put this to unanimous for that reason. Love a wheel. You love a wheel. I love a wheel. Yeah. So let's, let's spin it. Scarlow, if it lands on, if it lands on you guys, it's Iron Man. It lands on me, it's Scarlet Witch. I would see that luck par, come back into play.

Yep, that sounds about right. Magic prevails. It has landed on me. You know what I should just do is vote for the person I don't want to go through. Just move on the wheel. So Scarlet Witch is going to advance past Iron Man, and we have our final four. We have Rogue, Captain Marvel, Wolverine, and Scarlet Witch. How progressive are we?

Three of them are women. That's, that's, that's, see that, that, we're a real modern podcast right here. We're great allies. I'm just saying, it could have been four women. So what's out on the record. That was two rounds ago. She's gone. I know, but I miss her.

All right. So this is going to set up the final two and decide ultimately who's going to be representing the Marvel side in this fight. We have Rogue versus Captain Marvel. This is a grudge match. This is one that has been on and off over the years. It's Rick Flair versus Dusty Roads. It's Stone Cold Steve Austin and the Rock. You know, they have been back and forth.

They've been friends. They've been enemies. I mean Garcia versus really you there. I was still, like, what the fuck of those guys' names? I couldn't even remember their fucking names. That's, that's a rotten stage of look. Yeah, well, my luck's not holding not too well today, so that makes sense. So we got Rogue and we got Captain Marvel.

Who do we think? I want to pick Rogue just because I like Rogue. I think I might go for Rogue as well Okay Just because you like Rogue? I like Rogue, but she's already beaten Captain Marvel before by absorbing her powers, so

That's true It's precedence there Mm-hmm I feel like that gives Rogue a really good advantage over everybody is that like Rogue has the power that she has but also has the potential

to have the powers of whoever she's fighting against he's kind of got like one up over everybody you know the only trouble with their power is she has to get in close to be able to use it yeah and that's that's your melee versus range fight right there because Captain Marvel doesn't have to get close

to rogue to hit her mm-hmm well that's that's true if the end goal is to steal captain marvel's powers again again rogue can just steal somebody else's powers and then have the long-range battle with captain marvel she can still like just because captain marvel has long-range abilities doesn't rule out rogue she can she can find a way out of that too you know I don't know, but then you're going against someone who's borrowed someone else's powers versus someone who knows their powers like the back of their own hand.

Like if you're, you know, like, if you're going to have a pissing contest, it helps if it's your wiener that's pissing. I, pretty sure, I thought you were to say nothing if it's your piss. Which I agree with. Whatever. Whatever. What a pissing contest. but I use somebody else's piss

Not the same It's just not the same Not the same Oh boy So I'm inclined to give this one to Captain Marvel I think Captain Marvel Has handled high pressure situations better than Rogue has historically I think she does

She is going into this fight with a losing record Which means she's got something to prove Because Rogue has beaten Captain Marvel in the past Right So I mean this is a big grudge this is someone with something to prove I think that Captain Marvel could find a second gear

you want them to go 1-1 so they have a third fight addressed mania yep put them in a cage we can still put them in a cage I have to put a cage with a roof on because they can both fly though that's true but they just fly off the cage oh that's true they just pick up the cage and carry it with them

walk away to the cage yeah we're both pretty strong um so are we going to the wheel Can you imagine it's like WrestleMania? One of the big open air WrestleMania stadiums and then Rogue and Captain Marvel just fuck off with

the hell in the cell and Ben's like What the fuck? I spent a lot of money in that cell. Are we going to have to go to the wheel? I think so, yeah. Because I'm not budgeant. All right. If it lands on Doer,

John, Rogue advances to the final two. Oh, okay. Oh, boy. All right. So it landed on me. So that's an upset for Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel redeems herself beating Rogue to get to the finals.

This is a terrible strike of luck. Has this ever happened to Eddie boy? Up next, we have another mutant, another mutant showdown as well, maybe not, Scarlet Witch is a mutant some days and isn't others. We've got Wolverine versus the Scarlet Witch. What are we thinking? Because this seems like a bad combination for Logan. Oh, well, he'll always find a way out of stuff, won't he?

Yeah, you're saying that. But, like, I mean, Scarlet Witch is sort of similar to Gene Gray, at least, like, when she had, like, Phoenix powers. then in that third X-Men movie Wolverine manages to kill Gene Gray and save the world so I think he could do the same

to Scarlet Witch yeah he kills Gene Gray and the Grand Marsen Run so he's always killing people he just loves killing Gene Gray he always kill the people you love I'm pretty sure that was in the Bible

I don't know I think this one's a tough one for Wolverine and I want to put it to the wheel I feel like we should put it to the wheel because I think that's tough too you know again it's one of those things like if you're doing pure hand-to-hand combat

yes obviously Wolverine walks away with it no problem but Scarletwich she can do all sorts of all sorts of nasty things you know shenanigans yeah all right John No, let's do it. No, let's do it.

Oh, no, fuck, doesn't it? Well, so that means Scarlet Witch is getting past Wolverine. That's another upset. Scarlet Witch is, like, living off these upsets. And she is heading to the finals. to the finals against Captain Marvel. Before we get into it, I just have to say,

this hero's bracket went in a direction. I was not dissipating. I was totally expecting Spider-Man to cakewalk this. Yeah, did we... I hope by that we fucked this up. This is one of those unprecedented tournaments where it's like upsets left and fucking right. Because in the first round, we lost Spider-Man.

We lost Deadpool, we lost Thor, we lost the Hulk, we lost Storm. And then in the second round, we lose Captain America, we lose Dr. Strange, we lose Iron Man. And now here in the finals. Daredevil. Daredevil. Can't forget that. And now we have the finals. We have Captain Marvel, leader of the Avengers at times, cosmic powers, a lot of field experience, a lot of trials and tribulations against Scarlet Witch.

who is incredibly powerful, has a weakness at times when it comes to her mental state. But that sheer level of just brute magic energy is tough, tough. So, yeah, what are we thinking? This is just like magic versus, like, cosmic energy. Yeah, magic versus space. Yeah, which as we know is too underrated. Captain Marvel's already beaten

a magic user as well and Dr. Strange in this. That's true. She can just do it again. Run it back. But, you know, Scarlet Witch can, you know, mess with reality. Maybe she could, you know, mess with the reality of Captain Marvel's powers, take them away from her, possibly. But she's taken away mutant powers away from countless,

mutants so yeah that's true what do you think core i'm undecided okay i think scarlet witch is is powerful but i think like at some point raw and this is going to oh boy this will upset scarlet witch fans to say this raw untamed power versus somebody who knows how to use theirs intimately i feel like is going to ultimately end up in the other person's favor. Right. Like, I think that I would go with Captain Marvel just because of two points. One, we've already established that she's already beaten Dr. Strange, so she's got that going for her.

But like you said as well, she seems much more confident control of her pars than Scarlet wish does at times. So that's what I would say. There's something to be said about as a character as chaotic as. Scarlet Witch as well though maybe she could pull off something unpredictable and catch Captain Marvel

completely off guard and hit her in a way where she's just not prepared for it and that's the sucker punch. I would argue that if I would say that if we're going with the argument that unpredictability can beat raw strength

and that would completely negate the Deadpool Rogue thing that we did earlier. We should have vote for Deadpool I don't think that that is a factor in this case that's what I think I think what I would do I mean whatever what's what side are you guys leaning to I'm picking Captain Marvel John I'm going to Scott at which I'm gonna I'm gonna go roll again on mine because I really do not know okay it lands on me we're spinning again it's gonna come down to you two I love probably the final score he's like

I don't care. All right, here we go. It's make her break. My luck holds out again. All right. So, that means representing the Marvel side of things is with Scarlet Witch. So Scarlet Witch is now the Marvel hero of the Smart Avengers. She is our patron saint.

she is who we now bow down to in a sense adds it's a bit much yeah all right so guys

that tournament definitely took a few turns it certainly didn't go the direction that we thought it was going to go so who did you have money on going all the way

I think I lost my money at every stage of that as we've established I'm not a very good gambler I thought spider-man would go all the way just from the fact that both of you love spider-man so much I think what really what happened is John going captain America in the first round when you and I went spider-man and the wheel landing in John's favor that I think set the whole thing in motion Mm-hmm Yep, it was all downhill from there So if we had gone instead

Then that would have put Spider-Man versus Rogue Does that change anything? That's still tough Yeah I don't know I would have still voted against Rogue I guess I think I would have too

I think Spider-Man would have outsmarted her I don't know man road to be cool i mean there's a difference between combat knowledge like captain america has and then like street smarts like spider man has right so i think he could have out i think he could have out clevered her but yeah no that is uh like you said so many heavy hitters got i mean there were going to be heavy hitter upsets obviously just based off of matchups and how many big names we had in there but like captain america and iron man and you know some of those guys going out as early as they did was a stunner.

Like Deadpool going out in the first round, I did not see coming. Mm-hmm. But it made it more interesting, at least. Certainly did. I mean, we decided this part of the tournament without really knowing who we wanted to win, in a sense. Like, we had ideas, but then fate took us in different directions. Mm-hmm.

So, I think that's going to be a wrap for this. we're going to come back to this in the future so far like you said scarlet witch is who we have representing the marvel hero side uh we're going to save the bracket we're going to share it with you guys again so that you have it you know pretty much in your own hands how it went and then some point down the line we'll pick up and we'll do the marvel villain side and then we'll start the dc side and eventually those final four will go against one another in one episode And We don't know

We don't know who's on Marvel's villain side yet We don't know who's going to be representing DC Batman Always wins What if Batman goes out in the first round Could happen Spider-Man went out in the first round Absolutely could happen

Anything can happen in the black world of our tournaments So that's why you got to keep watching Cheatine in and watch the show. There you go. I think I pull it off really well. Nailed it, bud. Absolutely nailed it. Skip that, I make that the intro to our YouTube.

So, John, what are you sitting at so far for movies? I am now up to 1,116 movies for the year. 1-1-16 yes that's a lot of movies what was your most recent one uh it was an eli roth movie called thanksgiving which was uh basically another holiday based uh slasher movie i think it's technically um like it was started life as uh one of the fake trailers in the grindhouse double bill but yeah he finally turned it into an actual movie it was pretty good

well there you go where did you get it I gave it three and a half stars out of five Space Jam I think it's scored higher than Space Jam so I'm saying

you give it more than Space Jam Yeah yeah you have to watch space jam again do we do a watch long we just watch watch space jam and there is a space jam comic we have established that yes we'll get there

in good time not with my luck I'm not going to be able to win anything so all right get up with that well Dylan what are you getting up to this week yes

I'm going gambling tomorrow how do you think if I don't feel about that guys I don't know what you I think my luck is going to going to be in. I don't know. Yeah, maybe buy your Christmas presents now.

I'm actually gambling my Christmas presents. That's what I'm going to gamble. Because, like, it's a dead search. I'm going to win. There's no way I'm going to fuck this up. Listen, here's my rationale. My luck was so bad today that all my bad luck is gone and all the good luck will appear tomorrow.

It's X-Book. If this is the most foolproof plan in the world, then I guess I'm the fool in this scenario. but I'll say I'm not but other than that other than the gambling I intend to do and win I do a

radio show every Monday night on it's digital radio it's Monday nights at 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock, play a lot of rock music and just whatever take us my fancy all sorts of cool music is pretty good you can listen to it at ByncidigitalRadio.coated UK

you can listen to it wherever you in the world you're in a boat or if you're on a airplane if it's nine o'clock on a monday night you can listen to the show and you have access and i stream sometimes on twitch at spooky the roo or draw pictures and then sometimes i animate those pictures i put those on youtube on team crows and i um which is in all this shit's in description or whatever i don't know it's all there somewhere All right. Well, as for me, I have some other projects that are down in the description as well. One is a podcast called Large Old Cup. The other is a bit of a writing project. I'm hoping to get back into the flow of doing those here shortly.

But until next time, where we will possibly be talking about the Kang Dynasty, we'll see you then. Goodbye, everybody. Bye. Thank you.