The Snark Tank - #09: Video Game Movies

Episode Date: February 13, 2020

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Isn't that something? Hey, look, he's a little dead meme. Hey, everybody, welcome to episode nine, I think, probably of the Snark Tank podcast. I'm here with, I'm Chris Reagan, I'm here with Tom Sweeney and some black guy. Just quick note before we get into the rest of the episode, there is going to be a bit of an audio discrepancy here. We're in a new space. We are in our living room, which we hope to eventually set up into a permanent podcast

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That's right, sucker. They're getting a little. No bones about it. I will crush you. Now look, okay. I'm just asking for it, okay? And if you don't give it to me, you're going to give it to me. You stupid.

They're just, they're just, they're being violent. I'm just telling you the facts. You negligent. Like that is inevitable. Like, I'm going to, I'm going to get you, all right? I will get you. You can run. You can hide.

You can pray. I'm going to be there. So, there. There wasn't really much happening over the last week. The only real thing that's happening that I feel even remotely like talking about, really, is all this shit going on at the DNC. But even then, I don't want to get into that because it just feels so unfunny. It's just frustrating.

It's just frustrating more than anything else. So I found something a bit lighter, a bit more amusing, something that I think can kind of tributche us into different topics. Oh, damn. Oh, dang. Good job, Chris. Look at our host. That's what game you've been playing, man.

Look at our host, crisp, rape, gun. I know exactly what a Trebyshe is. And that makes me a qualified podcast. Trebyshe is something you throw things at with, right? It's like a catapult. I don't know what the fuck I say. I mean, it's like a catapult, but it's like a catapult, but it's like a slingshot. You said it in the most layman term ever, but so sure.

Yeah. It's like a, from what I remember, it's like a slingshot catapult. Okay, I was thinking slingshot. Yeah. Okay, cool. But, yeah, so I thought we'd talk a little bit about video game movies. Okay. It's vaguely relevant

Because the uncharted The uncharted movie Keeps getting fucking delayed And they lost Like their fucking 800th director Really? It's that bad? It's insane Why do you think that's happening?

Why do you think that is? Like what the hell's going on? I think... I don't know I think it's because it's harder To translate a video game Into a movie Than it is most things

I feel like it's far easier To turn a video game Into a TV show Sure Yeah because the TV show Has enough length in it Yeah You can flesh it out

Yeah No exactly Like a fucking even movies have a hard time Flushing books out Yeah because books have so much context That you need to read literally Right but even like a game has like

Just as I would argue that a game in a book Are far more similar in the amount of shit that you're absorbing Absolutely yeah Like The Witcher 3 as a video game It's fucking colossal Fan big It's like enormous Like I thought I thought

You were playing it and I thought you were at the end But you were nowhere near it And I was like what the fuck is that? I am literally I literally have at least 35 hours into that game, and I really, really thought I was at the end of the game. And apparently I'm not at the end of the game yet. I'm very much so not at the end of the game.

Yeah, I imagine, because you're probably doing a lot of side quests and stuff too, right? I do side quests, but that's not my main focus. Okay. It's unnecessary. It's unnecessarily long. There's a lot of things that are just unnecessarily long. And I do, middle of your solid four was unnecessarily long. Yeah.

Stupid. Dumb. I don't know how people feel about that. I hate that game a lot. It fucking can't stand. Good if you want to just like get some popcorn, you know, kick back and watch some cut scenes. Yeah, kick back and watch the game. Jesus Christ.

It's like a novella, but you every now and then you press a button. I don't know, man. All I know is that this movie is just like in fucking development hell. Like, I feel like just most video game movies are cursed with this. Like you, and the ones that, what baffled me the most, I think, was like back in the day when they were making a bunch of them in like the 80s and 90s. They always picked like fucking mortal combat or like Mario. Or like Street Fighter or like Mario. And I'm like, what the fuck could you possibly do?

those narratives. Well, because... They aren't narratives. Well, Mortal Kombat has a narrative to it, I guess. It did. It does. It really does. I'm sure it does.

In pop culture, right? In pop culture, people, like, the things that rise to the top, you know, the cream of the crop that rises to the top. All of that shit is always very just dumb, easy to understand. And now just the studios are like, let's capitalize on it. And so it's pretty easy. And then there usually is, like, the thing about Mario, that was the weirdest one to me because I've never...

I was like, what is Mario really about? So this is going to be interesting. And then there's actually a lot of videos about how it became a disaster and how everything went and the directors that they chose. Fascinating stuff. Mortal Kombat, very simplistic. Very, very simplistic. It's like it's hard to fuck up, right?

So yeah, for the most. Oh, hey, tournaments, right? That you have realms, you can't just invade realms. It's it. Okay. So the way that you take over realms, you have to win 10 straight tournaments. When you do that, that's it. You just win the tournament and then you can actually invade

Shout Khan fucking broke the rules, blah, blah, blah, it continues on. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, as far as video game movies, like I recognize that Mortal Kombat isn't a great movie. I really enjoy it, though. But it's thoroughly enjoyable. And most importantly, because the most important part about it, the choreography holds up. Right.

That's the most important thing in that is like, hey, is the fighting good? It's pretty good. Like, go watch it. My favorite part of that movie is when, I think it's Shang-sung just says your soul is mine. That's great. That face is still in my mind. I still remember him pointing from the top of the hill and I'm like, ah, that's fucking dope.

There's a lot of, he has a lot of good one-liners. He has, like, say, when he's on the boat and then all that weird spiritual shit and, like, the skull's coming out and he goes, it has begun. That shit, I use that so many times whenever I, for, like, memes, you know, I use that gift or whatever. or like say, you know, if I'm about to like come over to a girl's house or something like that and you know it's about to happen. You send her that fucking... You send that shit. Even if you're in the same room, you send it. You text her to me.

Yeah. She's in the bathroom prepping up. You text her. I'm pretty, or when I first enter her, then I usually just grab my phone real quick and I text that to her. I usually say it's turbo time. That's mine. As soon as I start, I give her a great big... It's turbo time.

I just start singing it's terror time again from Scooby-Doo and Zombie Island. You know what's funny? Just a couple of nights ago, I was listening to that song and I was like, me and Chris need to cover that song. That would be awesome. I was literally thinking about just the couple days ago. I would be totally down to do that. That song's great.

It's a fucking great song. It's a shit fucking hits. Oh, man. Yeah, it absolutely. I would absolutely do that. Dude, Scooby-Doo on Zambi Island is fucking a good movie. A great fucking. It's, it doesn't make sense.

It shouldn't be that good. It's way better than it's like actually as a movie It's like what this movie is kind of good It's a really good watch It kind of goes against literally everything Scooby-Doo stands for But it's pretty enjoyable But that's why it's so good though Yeah

And they do even acknowledge you because there's that one song Where they're like oh everything's fake It's all fake news right Yeah They have that one song that they're just like tired of like doing the same old thing And then they're going to the next thing We're going to this zombie island where it's just going to be a bunch of BS And it turns out like

Oh these are real dead people And a fucking, when I was reading comments, a lot of people were like, this movie freaked me out as a kid. And I guess it didn't freak me on because I've always liked zombies. I always thought they were cool. But there was a lot of kids that were frightened by that movie. It didn't freak me out. It was cool. There was one scene that I remember being like kind of creepy, which is like, I think there was like a face in like a mirror or something.

Fuck, I can't remember. It was something like that. But it was like a pretty good like rendition. It reminded me of like the scary stories to tell them dark books. And that was like, that's creepy. But I was more excited to see it than I was creeped out by it. For me, it was, like, weird because I remember watching that movie a ton of times, and I felt like I would always go to the bathroom,

and I'd go to the bathroom, and it'd be parts where there'd be, like, the wear cats afterwards. So you just skipped parts of the movie? And no, no, no, I thought I skipped or what different movie came on, because it was about zombies. And I was just like... That is a weird twist. I was like, there's zombies, right? Yeah.

Where are these cat people coming from? And the zombies are the good guys trying to want. people of the wear cats. That's what I thought was so cool about it. That shit was so fucking, because I was like, always. That's what I thought was so cool about that movie, though. It was like the first time I'd ever seen zombies as like a positive. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, that's, I don't think that, I think still even. Like, I can't think of a single thing since then that has tried to do that. It reminds me of like when destroy all humans came out. And that was like, oh, you get to play as the 1950s alien destroying the people. Yeah. And it used to be like every other game was like about. like defending Earth against aliens.

Yes. But this one, you just allowed you to just be a dick. I felt like that movie, Scooby Doo and Tommy Island was like almost kind of like the zombie equivalent. Not a game, but like it took something

that was so unanimously evil. For me it was Casper. Casper? Because Casper was a friendly ghost. No, but, you know, like, oh, ghosts are creepy.

No, they scare you. And then Casper was like a good guy. No, he's a real swank dude. There are benevolent ghosts though. There are, but like,

I don't understand about that. I don't understand. about them I didn't understand them at the time Casper was barely a ghost to me He was like a fucking Like a

You know those things inside Superboo? Oh my God You know what I'm talking about Right? The big white worms Yeah Superboo

He reminded me of those Fucking things I was like This isn't a ghost It's just some pudgy bitch Casper is really respectful You shouldn't talk about him like that

Respectful Casper is The biggest Pushover Pansy He is a pushover But he's a good dude I couldn't Sure

But at a certain point It's like you gotta You got to fucking man up a little bit, dude. He's dead. He can't man up. He's not going to age anymore. Casper is the dumb. Is he like a dead kid?

Yes. He's a dead kid. Casper is the fat kid from it that got stabbed on the bridge and then tossed over, but he died. Oh, my God. That's Casper, and I just don't respect him. You guys are just fucking demon. And he's not even that fat. His head is real rotunned.

Yeah. He has a rotun scalp. He's probably elephant man's son. Well, so who's to say he did? So who's to say... Who's to say really That he That he didn't deserve what happened to him

Um Okay If we're getting into specifics here This rotund looking weird out We're not gonna You ever think about that When you hear about like a horrible murder Someone's bludgeoned to death

And you ever think about like Oh what did What did? What was he wearing? Kind of yeah Like because we had to think about like Barrein like there's the people like Hey it's Jay Shetty from on purpose

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No, no, no, no, that's John Winkasey. No, no, no, no. Oh, my God, people in the podcast are going to lose their mind right now because it's like his name is always coming up. That is fucking phenomenal. Is it Chris Hansen? Can you imagine of Chris Hansen After all this shit that was going down

Like he's been this advocate Like against all this horrorific stuff And predators and stuff Just catching predators And then at the exact time He's been doing the same shit Like mirroring them He like he reads the cases of these people

And like oh this is a sick dog And then he does the same thing And so every person he's put in jail He's done the same thing And he's been getting away with it Nardly So you're thinking of Ted Bundy Ted Bundy.

I can't believe I couldn't think of it was. I thought of Zach Ephron. I thought of Al Bundy from fucking love and marriage. Just the show. Married with children? I love, I love, and I love. I love, I love,

Bundy. Yeah, you know? Al Bundy, right? I think, I think that's someone else. No, I think he's right. I think I know what I'm talking about, man. If a serial killer... Actually, wait, there's a question on the doc that kind of...

Hold on, hold on. There's a question... There's a question on the dock that kind of fills in. I just thought of this. Liam Asson wrote in he's like What loot? What loot would you drop if you were killed? That's a good question

It's such an entertaining guy I love it. So fucking weird Well If I was going to go to comedic And insensitive route I'd probably drop a gun You would just drop a gun

Yeah I'd probably drop a gun Like say like a good Like a Mac 10 I would drop a Mac 10 That people would be like Oh sweet This is kind of racist too I kind of like

this. I would drop the ability to say an N word. Oh, just an N-word pass. It's just like, just one pass or a booklet. No, no, no. It'd be like, it'd be like you touch it and then like something engraves into your arm that allows you to go around saying niggas. That would be a little. Some insignia. It's like a big inn.

I got it now. What about you, Chris? Probably my wallet. Oh, wow. Oh, that's really fucking, that's real mundane. Yeah, I know. How super imaginative. Yeah, no, I don't know. I probably, I feel like I would like ideally to drop just my skin. Just only my skin. Like you kill me and then my skin is a pickup and you can wear my skin and become me for a little bit. Like it's a fucking onesie. Yeah, like it's a onezy. Yeah, like it's a onezy.

Oh my God. Is it fit properly? I used to have dreams, dude. I used to have. So this is a real dream that I used to have where like I would, my bones and my skin were disconnected. But they were still like I was still, like my skin was like my skin was still. on me and I would be able to like kind of like pull my like finger bones under like almost like a long sweater where you put your arm like in the shirt like this oh but it's your skin I used to have these dreams where I would just like wriggle around in my own skin and then I would wake up crying okay okay at least you would wake up crying I thought it was like oh I loved it no fucking exhilarating there are dreams that I would definitely never if I could like block them from happening again I would definitely block that one you have I haven't told you about my really bad dream.

No, I don't think so. So, um... Is it recurring? No, I don't dream anymore. What? I don't dream anymore, yeah. I stopped doing it. Do you, uh, do you like, do you smoke a lot?

Not at all anymore. Oh, okay. Because I, no, okay, I don't have any explanation. I just, I just turned them off. But, uh, um, I used to, I had this dream in our old apartment where, like, um, I stepped in a living room in an old apartment. So what happened was I thought my roommate and one of our friends came in really late and they were making a bunch of noise.

And I was like, why are they running around my bed? You know, because my eyes. were close because in a dream I had my eyes closed but I was still awake because I just don't really care about opening my eyes so I heard a lot of banging on the door then I heard like people running around around the bed I was like I was gonna keep my eyes closed and I keep my eyes closed and I started getting they started getting loud and I was like oh okay I don't know what the fuck's is going on here so I woke up in the morning and I went to our roommate jail and I was like hey did you and whatever her name is coming late and like we're fucking prancing around the bed

in the middle of the night and he was like what the fuck were you talking about And I was like, there was like you and a few other people were like run around the bed making a bunch of noise. They were like, no, dude, you were dreaming that. You were dreaming that. That's such a mundane dream. No, it's not because it was, it was, they were allowed. No, no, no, no. What you're saying is you had a dream that people were loud in your apartment.

That is such a fucking mundane dream. Loud around my body. Like making noise, like circling me. Like they're doing some type of fucking ritual or some shit. And I was like, I don't know why. I was like, I don't know why they're doing this shit. This is fucking weird. But I was like, all right.

that you know what Who am I to tell anybody that they're weird You know Let me just do my thing Wait so in real life You thought it was real When you woke up And you asked them

Yeah apparently I was dreaming that Yeah that I mean That's funny Well I see it's it's mundane enough Chris you're right To where you thought it was real Like that's pretty fucking

Because like you know There's the dreams Where something crazy habit You know immediately That it's a dream But I've had some shit I've done some weird shit in my dreams Like I don't sleepwalk or anything

But there's the dreams but there were times where like I woke up and my shirt is just completely across the room and I'm thinking what the fuck did I do like I like flung it like you know because

I gotta get rid of this problem yeah so like I sometimes I wanted to set up cameras just to see like what the fuck what do I do when I'm sleeping? I thought about that too yeah just out of sheer curiosity what if you set up those cameras

right and then something fucking horrifying Not even something that you do There's like, let's say just like a cat Wonders into your room every night and stands on its hind leg It stares at you And just stares at you until like 5 a.m. on the dot And then it leaves as soon as you wake up

Those are the moments that like I don't wish to know Like that could happen I'm fine with that happening as long as I never learn about it Like anything even close to that Like you're you're sleeping And then like you look at the video And there's just some guy falls through the ceiling And he's his wife comes in there screaming at her and they start having a domestic dispute

Right in the room with you and you're like what the fuck this happened while I was sleeping But they're silent They're silent but they are flailing at each other And they are signing things at each other that are just absurd They're signing things They're just fucking silent That would be fucking that'd be dope actually I want to see that That's pretty funny

As long as I don't sit up and I'm a white man like well I'm sleeping What would you what would you? What would you? drop if you were killed me what loot would you drop I would just drop mom I don't know I don't know what I would drop I don't be talking about something real because I thought you're inward past thing I was my underpress that was gonna be it but like oh right right right right I thought you were gonna say like copious amounts of debt or something yeah debt that is copious you walk over it and you accidentally acquire all of Sweeney's debt oh shit like you walk over and you don't get a

chance to pick it up it's like you just grab it it's like a fucking trick chest and fucking dark souls like what the like don't don't fucking open that one don't open that one don't open that And it's not good loot. There's a bunch of signs like in dark souls on the floor is like don't walk over that. Yeah. Go another way. Go the long way around. Damn.

Can you imagine you acquiring someone's? And then what if they're in the whole like tens of thousands of dollars? Oh yeah. Like they just got to like an Ivy League school and then they're going to be paying off hundreds of thousands of dollars. And then you step, you were like, oh, sweet. And then all of a sudden now you have to pay it. Immediately all of the paperwork is now in your name. Trillions of dollars.

You get America's debt. Could you imagine that? America's debt to China. Like, what do you mean? Like America dies somehow? And then, like, someone picks up the debt. Someone walks over the corpse of America. The living person of America.

And you're like, I don't want this. Imagine the continent sinks. This is like a little floating, like, money bag over the ocean. Sick. Some asshole. The one guy to survive. Some dude on a jet ski, like. fucking sick, bro.

Skids over the money bag, and now he's like in the whole trillions and trillions of dollars. And he owes China that money. The China's like, what do you, what do you, he feels it. Because here's like,

they can't even, they have no hope of even seeing that money at that point. So yeah, what do you, like, what could you possibly do? You're just fine. Like,

what do you want for me? What do you want for me? I can't, how do you literally know I can't, that you know it's physically, literally impossible for me to, to pay this off. So how do we, where do we, how do we proceed?

Like, dude, does China just like, well, I guess we'll just sacrifice you? I don't, like, you just, you go there. Like, you don't even try to run away from it. You go there to talk. You go to China. Like, talk. Hey, guys, it's me. Billy, the guy that owes you four trillion dollars.

I understand you guys have been looking for me, but trust me, I've been looking for you, all right? What, what can we do? What's the what's the middle? They're going to put you to work. They're going to put you, they're going to put you in a little hamster wheel. Oh yeah. And then make you power all of like,

Wuhan. You're going to power Wuhan. All the coffers. You're going to power all of the air filters and shit. Oh my God. Yeah. Fucking virus out of there. Yeah.

Try to run it out the freaking. Dude, that's just, I don't know. That's just so hilarious. Like, it's just not even worth this. Let him be free. What? Let him. Kill him and drop him in like fucking Germany or some shit.

What are you talking about? Oh, the dude with the debt? The debt man. That's his superpower. He's debt man. That's a good one. He has super strength because he's able to shoulder the weight of thousands, trillions of trillions of dollars of debt on his back.

Trust me, you do not want this problem. I have so much debt. That he would fucking age like fucking solid snake, dude, from just that much stress. Oh, yeah, within like days. He would die. He would die. He would die. Because hearing that, like seeing that,

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You ever... Do you remember in Dragon Ball Z when Future Trunks killed Friza and he like slid in different directions? Yeah. I feel like that's what would happen to you the second you saw that amount of money. You would just immediately just slide. Two halves of you would just like slowly slide in different directions. And you would just be like, I'm done. I can't. You would try to run away from the debt, but it'd be running away from yourself. It would die.

It would chase you into heaven. Dude, that is, I mean, I'm so stressed just seeing like a medical bill or something just shows up. Yeah. I can't even imagine. I don't know if you could properly react. You know how sometimes you're so traumatized? You have a non-reaction to things. Like there's people that have something so, like, tragic or traumatic that they just don't have a reaction.

I think that would be the more likely scenario because I don't think your brain would know how to process that shit. I think your brain will try to kill you because I understand you can no longer live a life. You got to die now. Oh, yeah, we're good. Like, we've done as much as we can. You know, you were just jet skiing. It was fun. You were having fun.

You were jet skiing over the sunken carcass of America. You know, like, you were doing your thing, and then this happened. So clearly, I'm at fault because I made you go over there. So, sorry, I'm out. I just had a really horrifying thought for no good reason. What's that? You know how, like, aneurysms just sort of happened with, like, no rhyme or reason? Yeah.

You ever wonder if it's, like, a specific combination of thoughts that your brain just, comes up with How would you tell me some shit like this? Like if you just think If you think of like four or five things At the same time that you're just not supposed to think about Then your brain just shorts out It's like a fail safe in the human brain

That's how people kill themselves instantly Oh geez It's like if you put the right pieces together It'll open this thing up But instead of opening up a wondrous door You die That really like fucked me up Like they're just like crawled into my mind

For no reason Were we even talking about aneurysm? Not even so what are we talking about I'm talking about somebody dying because of the weight of the debt of America. I don't know what about that conversation triggered the stimuli to get me to this point. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe you want that to be real.

You know, for a second, we were talking about, I don't even remember how we got into this, but we were talking about. We were talking about the Uncharted movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then we got into this. Oh, yeah, because it went to somewhere and then it led to the question about. This whole podcast is basically just how did we get here. Someone, I think somebody commented that.

I think maybe even you or like you, someone. Someone. tweet those like this whole podcast is just the how did we get here oh yeah i tweeted something because i said a new episode meaning that the inward was brought up again yeah always and literally fucking what we were what we're what you would drop what luke you would and it didn't even cross my mind till now you brought it up again sorry this is yeah it brought it up again it's a theme of the show i like it though and i like how it's not being forced in well we can get away with it because we have probably the most diverse podcasts on the internet we do damn it's true a lot of them are very snow like yeah it's

They're very, very quite. They're very, very powdery. That means that a lot of the executives, all these heads are going to be like coming for us because they're going to like, ooh, we need that diversity cloud. We need those colors. I accept it. I accept it. I'm cool with it. Throw us your money.

Absolutely. Please, man. Absolutely. If you think that we're fucking like, you know, underprivilege or whatever your mindset is, throw me that money. Yeah, dude. I didn't live an impact of life at all, but by all means, swing it. How the hell am I supposed to afford more solid gold rims for my Humvee? How am I going to do that?

Exactly. Without your help. We'll get into some questions since we're not going anywhere. Okay, I have one more question before we go into the questions. Okay. Is a serial killer that kills serial killers a bad person? Well, like Dexter? Yeah.

If you kill killers, are you a monster? Are you a killer killer? Okay, so here's the thing. You're still a murderer. You're still objectively a murderer. I think it depends on whether or not you know for sure. Like if you're a rapist right now. It's kind of like death row where it's like some people are there and they're just like not guilty at all.

Like if you just, if you know for sure, then I guess it's not terrible. But at the same time, that's like a lot of confidence to put in yourself. Yeah. To be like, I'm right. Because I don't know. Like I always think about the fact that like the people who run for president, right? The people who seek that amount of power are like inherently scary to me. Yeah.

Because that is a person who believes that although they are a human with every single fault that being a human encompasses, they have the responsibility and, you know, mental fortitude to handle that responsibility of like the most powerful nation on the country. You can stare at an optical illusion and your brain will trick it into thinking it's moving. You can, like there's no good reason why anybody who that is susceptible, who is susceptible. to that even minute level of illusion should be able to have control over fucking nuclear weapons. It's wild because we have blind. Think of it like this.

We're so flawed. We have blind spots that we fill in the blanks for. Yeah. Like right now that I'm looking outward, there's a part of that I can't see. My brain is like, oh, just feel, that should be there. That sounds about right.

Yeah. It can be a whole ass fucking demon standing there. Yeah. And we wouldn't know. Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose. Check out the best of a moment. we did, presented by eBay. I'd never owned a vintage camera before. There was something about it that felt almost unnecessary in a world where everything lives on our phones. But I wanted

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but you're also taking that responsibility. And you're saying like you have to be certain. And even when people are certain, how are you certain? How are you really certain? certain. There are people who are certain they're like not in padded rooms. You know what I mean? So like I always think about that.

Like what if I'm just like in a room right now? What if I'm in a padded cell? I thought about that a lot. I thought about that a lot. It's the whole like the, what was you call it, the theory of the simulation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because thinking about how it's like when you dream, sometimes you swear something out. Like I've had a dream where I would put any money down that I was, I swear.

where I was having sex with this girl or something. Like I felt it. Yeah, yeah. You know, and then you wake up and you're like, that's so weird. So I think it's definitely possible that you could feel all of this shit is happening, but you're just in a tube or like you're in a fucking room. Think you see like a glitch? My worry.

Yeah. My worry isn't necessarily of a simulation, but more than I'm just insane. And I'm just making everything up my own. That bothers me because that means that like I'm player one of my own mind, but like, what if I'm just not player one? What if I'm just like a fucking side character? What bothers me is like I'm player one. and I suck.

So like, what the fuck? Why would I create a reality where I'm not Elon Musk? You know what I mean? Or where I'm not like one of these like hyper-rich people for no good reason? Well, that's just because you're not conscious

that your player one, though. You know what I mean? Right. It's the second that you realize that you're player one that you become Charlie Shane and you go around drinking tiger blood or whatever he's fucking.

I don't know what he did. That's raw power right now. That's raw. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's how you fucking got HIV too. I don't know. Damn, bro. Sucks to suck, you know.

Don't drink tiger blood. Yeah, don't do that. All right, let's get to these questions. Yeah, so we've got a couple here from our patrons. Some of our supporters over at patreon.com slash the Stark Tank. Plug. We plugged it. Podcasts.

That's right. So, oh, man. Oh, my God. What fuck are these questions? Chase Davis wrote in. Yeah. What is a movie or game that you like but everybody else hates? I love Spider-Man 3 and I love Star Wars episode 3.

Episode 3? That's the one that people like. A lot of people, if you're talking about the prequels, definitely unanimously the third one is the best, obviously. And there's some people that are okay with it overall. I haven't heard too much shit from it. Okay. But I love Spider-Man 3.

I fucking love that. Yeah, that one is, that's different. That's definitely a good answer. Fucking love it. That's a fucking awful. It's charming to watch in retrospect. It's so fucking funny. It's such a good time watching that movie.

think the scene i think you're you're your your your your take you're soaking it in as like you you kind of like it in that way of how charming it's like because it's not supposed to be that way you know it's supposed to be more of a serious superhero film and uh with a little bit of shit sprinkled in there but i think because of how bad it is you enjoy it like how you enjoy how you enjoy how bad it it came out i think that's what i guess i enjoy the final product whether it was meant to be that way or not right i still i i like spider man three but it's terrible. It's a fucking terrible movie.

And there are things about it that I like that I used to think were bad. Like the dancing scene, I used to think it was like fucking atrocious. But like it's actually kind of great. It's actually, it's so, because when you look at it through the lens of like, oh, this is what like a nerd idiot like Peter Parker would think is cool. And when you view it like that, it's kind of like really great because it's like everybody's like looking at him like, what the fuck? and he's the only one who thinks he's hot shit and I'm like that's cool I like that I used to think that was really lame

but the fact remains that that movie is soldered to like a board of bullshit where it's like oh amnesia plot line oh fucking sandman and his daughter oh and he was he was fucking the there with the Uncle Ben and all that shit and I'm like okay that retcon was like horrendous

it was so bad and there's like parts of that movie are good like the the whole part where Sandman is like... Created? Yeah, in the fucking VAT and it's like that... It's nothing but music and he's like pulling himself together. That part was fucking genuinely beautiful.

Like that was an actually like amazing sequence. But that's about it. That's about it. Sorry, guys. I love it. I just like that movie a lot. Fucking Tofer Grace. Who the fuck put Eric Foreman as the venom?

That was the worst part to me. When I saw that, I thought it was... When I legitimately heard that, I thought it was like a joke. I was just like, oh, that's funny. You would get like the last person you'd pick for Eddie Brock. The last person you can think of. Eddie Brock is, he's a wall. He's a wall of a human.

I would have rather had fucking Kirkwood Smith, like Red Foreman be him. I would rather do that. Peter Parking, you dumbass. That would be so fucking hilarious. It would be. What about you guys? What's your opinion on that? Okay, so movie and game?

Or game. Or like, it's a slag. But like either or... I can say something that's very controversial. What? I'm one of the few people I know that actually enjoys playing Raid Shadow Legends. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.

So, yeah. So there's a lot of people, you know, they've been sponsoring like a ton of YouTubers. And I know some people were like talking a lot of shit because like, oh, you know all these people don't play this game. You know, they don't like it. You're kind of, you're shilling essentially. And I was just like... That is true of most people, I feel like. Yeah.

That's the true. That's absolutely true. And I think one of the reasons why I haven't gotten shit is because I generally play the game. I play it every day because they just have like these daily little things. So I'll play it for like 20 minutes before I go to bed or I'm taking a shit or something. I'll do that. And then over time, you do that and you play for free. Like it, I'm pretty like, I'm pretty far into the game.

I actually can like compete with like some of the higher tiers and shit. Because just over time I started playing in the spring of 2019 when they first approached me. they're like, hey, try this fucking game. And I'm like, you know, I don't play mobile shit. Yeah. I like to use my thumbs on a joystick or something. Right, right. Me too.

On a controller. So then when I found out, okay, it's turn-based. I'm a huge fan of turn-based. Been playing Chrono Trigger, fucking Pokemon, Final Fantasy. So, like, turn-based combat was, like, fine for me. I feel you. And then I'm also a huge fantasy fucking nerd when it comes to like that.

So a lot of the character and the models where I'm like, these look pretty cool. I wonder if they're ever going to add lore. and, you know, I'm still waiting for that shit. They have, like, a little thing here, the sprit. But, long story short, the combat's fun. Obviously, free to play and play to win is it's always going to be controversial.

Yeah. For the bullshit reasons that they try to, like, do certain things. Like, there's obviously fucking problems with the game. Like, some things you have to, oh, spin your silver just to remove your armor from your character. Like, that fucking infuriates me. But as far as the gameplay, I have a lot of fun with it. And I actually, just the other day, I'm just going to say I got a character that I, I can't talk to anybody about it because I don't know anyone that like really plays it. I know people online

that play. But I was like marking out because it was a character like that you, he's like the best character in the arena when you do PVP. So I'm getting too far into it. But this is something that like I genuinely like and no, this is not a fucking ad because obviously I criticize them too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying like I legitimately like playing the game. And I've, I've saw some people say like, oh, this game's fucking terrible and this and this. that and I'm like I don't think you've even played it man I think no definitely not people aren't playing yeah so but the score I just said hey look at the review score and look how many people are playing it's the game's up there like I saw a comment the other day when I was doing some research

and I said that oh this game's gonna die in six months and I'm like it's fucking really big right now so yeah I mean it makes sense that people would not mobile games are weird because like the mobile market is a race to the bottom because so many people have tried to basically like I think when Apple first came out with the App Store and people were like started to make games. There was like a really big push to make games really cheap and affordable on the platform

and then like developers kept undercutting each other and then eventually just got to the point where people were like charging one dollar for games or like they would just make them free and just shove ads in them. Yeah. And a bunch of developers like I think like an insane amount of developers shut down

because of the race of the bottom on the app store. So it makes sense that the feeling that most people would have towards mobile games to be overwhelmingly negative. Even though there are some good, I think there's obviously some good games on there. I wouldn't know because I haven't sought them out and I have enough to play as it is.

Exactly. For me, I don't know. I prefer, whenever I'm doing portable, I prefer something that's Nintendo-based. Yeah. That's very much so the line I go toward. I don't like... I need buttons, man.

I'll be real, man. I need tactile fucking... I need a feeling of tactility. You literally stole the words out of my mouth. I was supposed to say that exactly. I totally get it. I think the only reason, I remember saying something,

I remember seeing Count Dankula. He, he mentioned something. He was kind of like saying something positive about, uh, raid. And, um,

and I said, like, oh, I don't ashamed. Like, I play this shit. Like, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm ashamed to say that I play this. I replied. And somebody said, and they weren't talking shit, but they just said, like,

why would you play that when, um, when, um, when, like, uh, Marowind is available on, um, on the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, And my thing was, I'm not playing games like Marlin on my fucking phone. No, yeah, for sure.

That's the whole thing. The reason why I even like this at all is because it's a quick in and out. I can just play real quick. You know, while I'm, while there's like, while I'd be listening to a podcast, I'm doing some shit real quick. It's junk food. It's done. Yeah. It's junk food.

That's why, like, I don't think it's in the way that I'm going to spend hours in a day. I'm going to spend, like, three and a half hours playing Skyrim last night or streaming. Like, I wouldn't fucking do that for that game. You know? So that's the reason. So, but it is very controversial just to even say that. It's definitely one of those things,

but I don't get a fuck. Like, I'll fucking, I'll get that shit tattooed on my dick. And hey, listen, props to Raid, honestly, because, like, they're basically funding every single YouTuber at this way. They don't do. Like, without Raid, like.

Shoot the, shoot the info, right. That's. Real shit, dude, they fucking saved. They saved me last, uh, last month. Yeah. I think, uh, props to them. I'm, I'm happy that they're doing well.

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A hot take. I can't think of a hot take. I can't think of a hot take either. I know some people, because I know some people are like, oh, the friend zone doesn't exist or like whatever the hell. It doesn't exist.

I think it really does exist. I think whether that's a big deal is another debate entirely. Yeah, I guess because I don't necessarily think, like, because it's a very, obviously it's a very simplistic way

of looking at things. But for the sake of conversation, I think the friend zone is a thing. But I don't know if it's that big of a fucking deal. You know, For me, it's just like, the idea of friends on is that, like, there's this person you like, and they just like, oh, I don't want to really be in relationship that you want to keep it as a friend. Right. That's just simply understanding relationships with people.

Like, some people are just not going to vibe with you the way you vibe with them. And, like, if you want to be around them still, then, you know, do that. But if you're looking for that, like, if you're looking for a connection that's not there, then it's just no point get out of there. Yeah, I can't think of any hot takes to say. No hot take. Thanks for the conversation. I could be an asshole and be like, uh, uh, uh, If you're in the friend zone, you deserve it.

Fuck you. That's a hot take. I guess. But it's entirely falsified. So it doesn't matter. No hot take. But for anyone that needs some fucking, like, some real shit and some real tough love is that don't hang, don't get hung up on that shit.

Exactly. Yeah. Don't get hung up. It's a waste of time. Yeah. Like, well, as soon as you know, as soon as you know for sure that something's not going to happen, dude, you got to think about how many people are in this world. Like that, you're going to find somebody better.

Even you can. actually, and this is fucked up to say, if you're with somebody right now, even if you're married to them, I guarantee you can find somebody better than that fucking spouse. That's a fucked up thing to say. I don't really believe that. That's 100% true.

Statistically speaking, mathematically, yes, but also there's the instance where you could have found that person that is best for you already. No. Does it just as much as there is a person that is more likely out there,

to a lesser degree you may also be the person that is best for you. No, to a far less degree. Absolutely. it's far more likely that there is a better person for you out there than it is that you've met the right person yes absolutely but it's still possible uh yeah but it's it's possible no it's improbable but it's possible yeah no i think that's always true i think that's just generally like what happens it's like at a certain point you just have to be like okay this is where i'm at yeah and uh this is fine you just you're content

you're content yeah completely that's only always gonna be a better person yeah i look at i think i'm i think my was perfect for me. But I think that's just that's just me being a fucking like bitch. Yeah, for sure. That's always what people say. I didn't know she was going to take all my money. What the fuck is that? Oh my fucking God. Okay, yeah, sure. Honey, if you listen to this,

I don't think you're going to take anything for me. I mean, look, look, real talk. What do you have to take, honestly? Honestly, for real. Real talk, like, my last ex. That was where I was like, okay, I think this is like that pinnacle shit. because there was just too many things that there was too much crossover of like this is too

perfect like wow like actually thinking oh that's that's that's a marriage shit right there yeah and then but just statistically speaking um it's like oh okay I could run into her down the road but then there's like statistically speaking there there there there's another girl out there that's like a lot better than her but is that but is that the that's just that's also just part of like the internet now where it's like that that door so open to us now yeah just It's definitely the internet. Not even just being a public figure on the internet, but just like being on the internet in general. Being able to see some, because like in internet, it connects every, every facet of our ability,

our people, like our person can be connected to someone else. They're like, oh my God, we get along with that, we're going on with that. And it's very possible, but like, I don't know if I'd be constantly chasing the best person. I don't know. I'm necessarily. I think at a certain point, it'd be like, this is, this is great. This is fine. I, uh, yeah, you know, I definitely, um, I'm not, I don't mean to put that.

energy out. I don't mean, that's not what I'm, that's not what I'm going after. I'm not trying to like do like, oh, better, better, better. Like say, you know, there was a couple of girls I dated where I thought, oh, for sure, I could see myself like being with this girl for like, for eternity or whatever the fuck. So it's not like I'm looking for the better, better. It was just saying to, I was just saying, it was a thing to kind of like trick myself into like not being like fucking like sad where it's like, oh, totally. Yeah, I hear you. Like, I could find somebody. There's probably someone out there better for me. Yeah. That's the idea.

Yeah. That makes perfect sense. There's so many people on this fucking planet. There's probably someone that is better suited for everything you enjoy almost of the person that is fine. What if you met somebody who is perfect, but you found out like five years into the relationship that she eats bats? And that was the only thing. That's the only thing that's wrong with it. But that's a pretty big...

How much of it was a detriment? How much of it was a detriment? Like she just eats bats? How much of... How much of a detriment is it? She eats bass, Kingston. She eats bats. Like, what the fuck? People eat, fucking people eat frogs and shit, bro.

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I'm like, hey, I'm like, hey, get checked out. And like, because if you're that perp for me, like if someone's very perp for me,

I'm, there's going to be a real, it's real hard for me to be like, oh, I don't want to date you anymore. Realistically, you're not going to be like, you eat bats.

I can't be a part of it. It's going to be like they eat bats. I have that strange. I got to figure out how we're going to work past this. I have a very short fuse with that shit. That would set, that would set everything off entirely. It would not set everything.

I don't know how to even... I would start questioning a lot, though. First of all, why would you hide this? What a weird thing? That's a weird thing. Like, what else? Because at that point, I'm thinking, like, what else? What else is being hidden?

That's just like, I can't. I'll be in my head all over the place. That is very interesting. You even say that. When you said, what else, just like a light thing went off in my head because I've had that scenario happen to me. Right.

Or like, there was a pretty big lie, but at the same time, it wasn't a big deal. So it was like, why the fuck, to even lie about that? And then it made you think, what else is she keeping from me? That needs to be a narrative of that moment. It's just like,

hey, so you eat bats. That strange, is that customary? Did you grow up doing that? Do you know they can have this really not good version of the flu? What's the haps? And then you chop it up. And then you, if you get an explanation that's good enough for you,

then you stay in the movie. I need to be really clear. These are raw. She's eating bats like Ozzy like Ozzy eats Bats I understand I'm very aware That would upset me I went to the I went to the weirdest possible Like she eats fucking pregnant bats like

Like I'm at the point where it's just the weirdest thing ever See that was trying to figure out Because already I'm in I'm in disarray There's already a moment of my mind When I'm like everything's going wrong I've slept with this woman and she eats bats And I don't know what I don't know what this is Does she think she's a fucking apex predator?

Does she want to just eat flying mammals? Like, what's going on? If y'all were like truly in love, I think you would be able to convince her to stop. What I mean is like you talk to her, you have a sit down and you're like, yo, I don't want you to get infected. Like I do not want you to be, I guess, well, patient zero is not a thing anymore. It already happens. I just had an idea. All right.

Let's roll play here. Oh, here we go. I'm your girlfriend. I eat bats. Oh, I'm down. I'm down for this. All right. Let's please.

Let's go. You find, let's say you found a bat in my room or something, a half-eaten bat in my room. Um, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey,

Hey, There's a, there's a bat missing its intrails in the, uh, bathroom. Were you digging into my stuff? Um, no, we share a bathroom and it was just in the sink.

You're supposed to respect my boundaries, Kingston. I can't believe that you would just dig through my stuff like that. I wasn't, I wasn't digging. I saw wings in the sink. And, you know, anyone would be confused about that.

You're not supposed to be digging through myself Those are bat wings I eat bats So what, Kingston Okay, okay, you eat bats We're in love, are we not? Yeah, absolutely Then it shouldn't be that big of a deal That's so true, that's so true

I just need some answers about this Because I don't know what really eats bats in general Other than other bats I do, and my entire family We've been eating bats for centuries Over centuries Centuries?

Oh, okay, that's a culture That's like a family thing No It's not No This took a weird turn No What do you say from there

It's not It's all that is it I gotta go to work Oh shit yo You know what just happened I just started cheating on you out All of a sudden I just started cheating on you Oh my god

That'd be fucking wonky wiki All I'm saying man Is that like There are certain things that are just too much. And I think that's that's one of them for me. I feel like, because the statistics come into play at that point.

Statistically, there's someone just like you who doesn't eat bats that I can find. So like, I'd rather just have that. Statistics, probability becomes way too wonky for me. When I think of probability, it just becomes like, oh, this is just annoying

because like theoretically, in theory, there's a person who's like, I don't give a fuck. In theory, it hasn't helped me out at all. In theory, I should jump off this and I'll be fine. Yeah,

In theory, I should be able to ride my bike and not get hit by a car. Okay. You know, it is. So, fuck that. I know what you mean. It's kind of like when people say like, oh, it's like, you have like a one in 200 chance of dying in a plane crash. But it's like for the people on that crashing plane, that's like 100%. Exactly.

It's 100% certain. It's like, oh, fuck. Wow. The one in 200. Look at us. Yeah. I totally get like both of the, both of the ends of that spectrum. And I really do think that it's more, I think it's been more of a negative than the like statistically,

speaking, it's been more of a negative to me because it's been, instead of me maybe focusing on just like finding someone in my area or whatever and kind of just like, because in my mindset, I'm like, all of these fucking people that are just selling for these like fucking whatever. Like, you know, they're probably

just settling. They're not even like finding the best person for them or whatever. And then all this shit. I think I'm just making up all this bullshit just to like really just think that what I'm doing this is, this is good. This is a good thing. But I think if it's your vibe, it's your vibe man. That's all it really needs to boil down to that. That's what I see that. If it's just if it's just your thing,

is this your thing. Whatever, whatever you do that makes you most comfortable in a relationship should be done. Yeah. You know, like you shouldn't you shouldn't venture out to like, oh, I want to, I want to meet people only here because like then that limits due to what you want to do. But if you want to go out, then go out and find them. You know, like it's so many, it's so many humans on this planet that wherever you want to find them just find them. Yeah. And some of those people fuck animals. So yeah, that's that's my line. That is my line. That is my line. That's your line? That is definitely a huge red flag. I hope that's like, that's crimson. That's a crimson. Everyone's line, except for animal fuckers. Like, animal fuckers, obviously, that's not

their line, but everyone else that, please let that be a line. That is actually, yeah, like, if you find out your girlfriend fucks animals, like you'd be done with it, right? Like, I would be done. If I found out my girlfriend had sex with animals, I would try to fight her, actually. You'd throw hands. I would literally, what I would do is I would go, I would go to a floor and I'd punch the ground until my hands are numb so I can hit that person a lot.

I would have punched the ground. I'd fucking trunks the floor until my hands are bloody and numb and then I'd fight her. I'm kidding. It's theoretical. She's going to listen. She's going to hear this.

Does she listen? Absolutely. Absolutely. That's going to be a problem. Hey, don't fuck animals. That's it. It's good advice, I think. All right, zillion or zillion X, uh, wrote in.

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Uh, so what YouTube or celebrity or famous person would you want to collab video with? Uh, and what would the subject of the video be? I think we just leave it at the, like, who? Who? Uh, because the subject, like, that takes, I don't know, it takes me a long time to even settle on shit to do. Oh, yeah. So, so. Ideas get crazy.

I... I... I'd have to think a little bit. Old school filthy Frank, yo. Classic. Oh, Joji? Yeah. He just put out a fucking amazing song.

Yeah, he did, actually. I saw the video for him. He was in a limo, right? Fucking incredible. Yeah, it was fucking wild. I haven't heard it yet. It's so good. I haven't heard it yet.

Phenomenal. Like, actually, like, wildly good. Like, I couldn't believe it. Like, because I didn't really think his last EP's, like, he's been doing the music thing now. And I listen to a couple of his stuff and he's like, ah, this isn't really for me. I like his pink guy music the most. That's because it's so fucking. It's just,

yeah. Yeah, there's some good ones. The thing is that that's the character, that's the person I knew him as, you know, that's the person I knew 50 Frank as for years. Like,

oh, he's this a fucking gremlin of a human being. Yeah. That does ridiculous shit. And like, that's really, really cool. And I,

for, like, his film of comedy was so genuinely what I understood YouTube as. That if I could work with him, that would be hilarious. Because I feel like,

the how fucked up he is would only exacerbate and help me evolve further into how fucked up I want to be. Yeah. You sound like a Billy Elish, like, fan. Yeah, absolutely.

I'm so fucked up. I love things that, oh, man. But I'm not edgy, though. I'm just fucking wonky. You're not edgy, but you speak like you're edgy. It's weird. It's very interesting. Yeah.

I'm so fucked up, man. I'm so dark, man. No one understands me. No one gets me. I'm mad. I'm Sweeney in the world. So fucking weird and full of pussies. Conformist bitch.

Conformist bitch. Yeah, Georgie would be amazing. Yeah. Joe G. I, man, I'm trying to think, I feel like, I feel like if I could collaborate in any way with Larry David, that'd be amazing. Highest possible, like, request, if I could, like, sacrifice a pig to the gods to get that to happen. It'd be Larry David. There's one person hired in him, but I'll let you guys go.

Okay. That's a very good pick. If I'm talking about, because there's a lot of people I would love to just have a conversation with. I don't necessarily want to collab with them. Right, right. But collabing, something that, I guess, that means a lot to me is say, I would love to, like, Ethan of H3H3. He's been, like, his whole journey. His whole journey, everything has been, like, so inspirational to me.

And just, like, just how, where they started, where him and Ila started and even went to fucking Israel for a while, like, all these things and how it would see how far they come. It's pretty insane. So when he was, like, active doing, like, H3DX3 videos, it was one of the things I'm like, fuck. man if I could like like just meet up with him and I know like we can really bounce off of each other and it would be really dope now like you know since you pretty much just does a podcast I would still love to have sit down hang out yeah like that stupid fucking Twitter trash series that I do I think it would be really fun to do that with so that would that would be like that because I really just oh this is the guy that really um inspired me like in what 2014 or some bullshit like that one it was

more 2015 yeah and I was really like okay this guy he's blown up and I really like his sense of humor so that would really really be um it would be kind of like you know he have certain milestones that you want to like meet and stuff but that's one of them that I kind of want to like check off and stuff and um you know I'm I got a meeting which was cool like yeah yeah when we hung out and shit this is Sophia Bush from work in progress with Sophia Bush check out this special moment we did on our show presented by eBay there's a different kind of care with letting something meaningful go, especially when it has a story attached to it. When you pass something on, you want to know it's being handled with respect. I took part in my first ever

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Oh, the voice actor? Yeah, he's voice actor. He plays Dunners and Dragons. He, his ability to world create. I started on, so as of recently, I started writing, and I became, like, really into, like, writing, particularly, like, fantasy, because of Dunders and Dragons. And, like, his, the way he can command a story and tell it to you,

There's no visual of the world. It's just his words describing the world to you. I think it's like near unparallel, you know? Right. So I would just love to sit down with him and just like pick his brain and like see what he thinks of and stuff like that. What would you do? Sorry. Sorry, I cut you off.

But what would you do if you guys did meet up and it was really cool. But then afterwards he puts his hand on your on your thigh. What do you do? Dude, shit like that is the worst, man. She's like that as the fuck. That's like, like, I'll be like, I always move my hand and I'll be like, I will never tell you one of this. No one ever, no one, no one ever know of this, right? You have a blessing.

And I still, I still do look up to you. I still look up to you. But like, please, please, just read the room a little better. Yes. Just read the room a little better. Like, what gave you the impression I wanted this? What did I do to bring this? Like, I'm very, I'm so clearly, like, not into this.

We're talking about D&D. When the fuck did that pop up? Maybe you thought you wanted to meet up to talk with, talk about some dick and dick. You know it would be a good collaboration between all of us if we had a got a chance to work with? I think June is skeptic. June and I think, like, if we all worked together, that'd be something fucking outlandish. I say they're just too far. I've tried so many times.

And then like the one time that we were going to do something, I was supposed to go up there or they were supposed to meet me in New York. It like snowed, like crazy. It was like a fucking blizzard. I was like, ah, we're fucked, I guess. Sucks. This is like 2016, I think, or 2015. Sometime, last year, I was talking to June.

And at some point, I think they're going to come. I don't know if it's going to be for like VidCon. Click and collect. Order confirmed. Dad, tomorrow can we start a band. Can we become robots? Affirmative. Can we go crab battling?

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Terms and conditions apply. Or whatever, because the thing that, as far as my Twitter trash thing, it's always like why hasn't she been on like she would be perfect and I agree sure I agree I've always said that that um I think her comedic timing is like ridiculously good yeah I think I think she has like somewhat of a like a gift kind of thing where I'm like she's fucking she's on it she's I can like I like her like improvisational skills and stuff and uh skeptic he's always good time I love how like ridiculously arrogant he is in a funny way yeah like you know like I I I really I really He says a fantastic demeanor. He just seems like he's like, I'm the shit, and I'll beat you up and make you believe it. He gets really verbose whenever he's like angry. And it's like the funniest shit.

Like I can't remember what he described it like when he was, it's always the Star Wars. It's, yo, dude, I love Star Wars too. I love seeing someone bet my hatred towards a new Star Wars world. And he doesn't really well. Him and Jeff are the two people. He doesn't really well because like he said this one thing about like, uh, uh, He called the Porgs, like, chimeran. It was like something that we would say.

But it's like an insult that I wrote down and like siphoned. Like I've stolen like parts of that because it's just so good. Yeah. I definitely, you know, at some point maybe we just get him to sit down here. That'd be perfect. Get your ass in here. We probably had video at that point. And then I think that would be a really good time.

It would create an amazing concept of you guys to laugh at for years to come. What I've always wanted to do, as like a general project is I've always wanted to do like an always sunny sort of curb enthusiasm mix of like a show about like content creators and shit I've always wanted to do that shit and I've like I have like so much shit written but it's just like getting it people on board and like scheduling shit is it such a fucking nightmare that'd be a big event that would be a big thing it would be hard to do it would be take like an episode a single episode once it's done that'd be like groundbreaking I think it could be

good I have a lot of stuff written that I think is genuinely hilarious I like the idea already. I like that here already. Thanks for asking. There's a fucking helicopter in the rain? Oh no. Uh-oh. I'm not even going to make that joke. I'm not even going to step in there. I'm going to stay outside that lot. We'll stop it right there. We'll stay out. We'll give him like a month.

Melfis 1. Oh, my God. Melvis 1 wrote in, hey, you three snarketeers. Hate that. Hate that. Hate it. Ooh, I don't want to see that. No more. If you could have any game remastered or reimagined, thank Resident Evil 2 remake, from any generation console or PC on whatever platform you want,

which would you choose, and how would it be remastered? This is easy. This is easy. It's easy for you? I have no fucking idea. Super Mario 64 remastered from top to bottom and a complete, like just taking Mario Odyssey Todd next level, but was 64. That would be groundbreaking.

That game is so broken, though, that I feel like it would be hard to polish it. so broken and keep the broken parts but the broken parts aren't like I understand it's very broken you can like get the auto loopholes but you don't have to the in the main playing of the game you don't need any of the brokenness you just play the game right right without it being like super screwed up but ideally you'd want it to remain broken I guess maybe that's what gives it so much of its replayability is the fact that it is indeed broken but it I don't know I who gives it so much of it absolutely one million percent I think the mechanically how like how heavy mechanic-wise

it is yeah is what gives it like a lot of the thing, but isn't because it's broken. Have you seen people speed run that game, dude? I've seen people jump. I learned how to do that backwards jump. I taught myself it. It just looks like wizardry when you see it. It looks like somebody just disrespecting the law.

Like whenever you watch somebody speed run that game. It's just stupid. It's just borderline learning deficient. I learned that shit and that game got wild because I kept fucking falling through stages. Because I would do it all the time whenever I could. I was just like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah. What about you?

I guess there's just these two. I can't believe, I still can't believe they did with Link's Awakening. That fucking weirds me out. Yeah, Link's Awakening. That was so good. That was one of the things on my list. I'm like,

oh, man, they need to do this. People need to fucking play this game. The other two, and I might have mentioned them already as far as, like, games that I really enjoy,

but the Legend of Dragoon, I would, I probably would get a little teary-eyed, you know, because that game... A bad chrono trigger. Some games that need to be re-reggen we exist again.

Yeah, they do. And I don't want them to do like a remake the way they did Final Fantasy 7 though, because I want it to remain turn-based. I really wanted to remain turn-based because the thing that's so appealing to me about turn-based is the strategy. That is so fucking important. I feel like it made me so much. It's like playing chess when he was playing chess when I was young.

It made me so much more ahead of like my peers as far as like. Combat. Yeah, like they were, and you felt kind of like, you felt, it made you kind of arrogant too though because I felt like many people are fucking stupid. You don't see what's coming. You don't, you have to like really plan things out. You have to think about it.

That gave me, turn-based RPGs gave me a real understanding of combat. Yeah. Of combat and everything. That's why whenever, even in fighting games now, like when I play fighting games, I play fighting games in a way different way from most people.

And it's just like, oh, because I've been playing these games turn-based on the dinosaur, you have to make your move and I have to react according to what you just did. Right. So that's what I've,

really like about jump yeah i fucking hate them i really can't stand i just don't running and gunning that's the thing i i like action i like a game that makes me feel like i'm in a game not i i just i don't know i just think of it as i think of those games like the way that i think of like chess man right right like i play i love doom i'm i'm excited for doom eternal but i also sometimes i'm just relaxing kind of like some people just like to read a book and then some people like to play basketball afterwards you know what i mean like it's just it's different scenarios yeah yeah two different things settings you know mindsets yeah I love I guess I understand what you mean I very much feel that that's what I feel about like yeah test and check and stuff like that like

those games because they force they force me the other than just using my reflexes and using this weapon I have it makes me use my mind my mind is my greatest weapon in those and that's what I like and it's much more rewarding but that makes I don't know that makes the assumption that you're not using your mind in action every game you definitely are I am but they're not that's not my primary weapon in that yeah a lot of times it in those like say like say call the duty for example bottom over two is the only multiplayer I really really got enthralled with.

And that was, usually the people that won were, okay, the most accurate and the people had the best, like, you know, that muscle twitch fiber, that hand-eye coordination thing where you can really just be like quick. First one to get that shot off and stuff and start shooting first, opposed to, like, say, someone who's not like that at all, you know, you play like chess. And then all of a sudden, there is none of that shit. Now it's like you have to strategize. You're like, if I make this one move, I can completely ruin the entire setting.

when I could have been dominating the entire time. Like, I love that, like, just little, slight little things can fuck an entire thing up. Like, it's equal playing ground exactly. We have both the same capacity to do anything that you're about to do. Right. It doesn't matter my loadout. We have, we're just both equal, equal playing.

Right. Other than my intellect. That's why I like arena shooters, because that's what that is. Yeah. Arena shooters is a shooter chess. That's what it is. Because it's all about just moving around the board. I think it's, especially when the maps are set up, like, really well,

to where they, know exactly what they were doing to put like and then you can find these advantages and disadvantages and all these certain things particularly halo three is that game entirely yeah halo two and halo three have like some of the best maps multiplayer design and yeah and ever so they're so perfectly like map design is so important and like people just i don't know man i i feel like maps have just gotten worse like i can't i can't think of a multiplayer game that i've played recently that has maps that i remember really i i say that's the best because i play destiny so much yeah i would say titan fall no i can't think of a same i love titan fall i can't think of a single i can't

think of a single map from time full where you're like oh there's a really good map yeah i can't think of one like my thing is uh since i was never and it's it's because i never really i never really cared enough to to be the best when i was playing multiplayer yeah um but in model one for two there were certain maps that no matter what i would always dominate like say uh rushed yeah that was my map because i would always put on the perks of like infinite sprint and then i would extend my fucking uh my melee so i would fucking dominate that one i would just knife everyone and always win yeah that shit was fucking a good idea So I love like that's a very strategic thing or go all the way at the top and then fuck everybody up to where like, you know, if you jump in the... So I love shit like that.

I love that say the map makes you, you have to think about this to a ways that you're going to really dominate. And then I'm going to have to be faster because there's other people that are going to be doing work. And even in fighting games, I forgot there was like that one infamous one. It might have been like a street fighter alpha game or this dude like just fucking... Daigo. It was Diago and Street Fighter third strike. It was third strike? Okay.

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And he parried through all of those and then retorted with a combo into his ultimate and won the championship. Yeah. It was insane. It was pretty insane because if he would have missed any of them because the chip damage would have killed him. So he had to do it perfectly to each one. And it's one of the most amazing things you'll ever see because that's one of those. things to where it lends to like the like having that type of mind to do things perfectly and just be completely on point so that shit like it's definitely like both both genres like say

if you're thinking of like strategy and that like that shit's fucking that that's that's that's on another I can't even I can't even dream of doing that my brain would be like dude don't stop yeah don't even my brain wouldn't even let me do that I saw it I saw it like years after it happened and I've just rewashed it over and over over again it's like that is insane you ever see you ever see that viral, I can't remember if it was like Mortal Kombat, a street fighter, whatever, but it was like a match between two people and they were just like, they did the exact same thing

constantly, like, it was like I'm watching like a mirror. It was like somebody had edited the video and like did like a mirror. Really? I didn't see that. It's fucking crazy. It's like a way and they're just like cracking up at a certain point because they're just doing the same thing. It's wild. I've never seen two separate people just do the exact, like to the animation

frame. It was like wild. It's the same because of it's the idea of like it's just, it's the strategy that it's the best we're going to do right now. Yeah. Right. So this person is going to do it right now too, right? And it's like fighting yourself almost, like fighting a clone. Yeah.

For sure. I'm going to punch. I'm going to punch. Yeah. I just think for me it's like when I, the ultimate realization, like the goal of a video game to me is to get as close to virtual reality as possible. And that means, you know, simulating an environment and allowing you to have a direct impact on that environment in the ways that you would assume would work. I don't know, just like when I'm... I feel like when I'm playing

like most isometric games. There are some isometric games that I like. Like Bastion, I fucking adore. Games adorable. Pretty much anything by Super Giant actually is pretty great. And like some turn-based stuff, like I like Child of Light. I like Final Fantasy 7,

even though I haven't finished it because it's fucking long and long-winded. But to me, it just feels like I feel so separate. I feel like I'm telling a cool character to do a cool thing. Well, you are, actually. Right. That's what you're doing.

You're telling a cool character to do a cool thing. I feel like I'm going to be more into a game If it lets me be the cool person Doing the cool thing I feel like that's why you'd like Dungeons and Dragons I've like Dungeons Dragons close that gap completely Yeah And that game for me

It's the difference between like text-based adventures And it's like Skyron Yeah Or something You know what I mean Yeah I actually I'm the complete opposite when it comes to that I don't

I like controlling people And like doing stuff Because like Controlling Like Derek Blackman I like controlling people fucking puppet to my draw picture Derek over like in the

shadows puppeteering someone doing something he's just puppy he's like those marionette uh marionette strings and it's over the planet oh my god that reminds me of uh in streets uh streets of rage too there's the the main boss like in the beginning of the game when it's like doing the the little the little screen uh the text

when it's reading oh mr x is taking over the city and then he's just like over the entire city like looking all fucking sinister like totally anyways you're taking me out of context No, I've always, I guess I've never, I've never, I've never, two things that always that I never connected with. Like say the teenage angst music, I never connected with it because I wasn't really angsty kid in that way. And then there was, and then video games, I didn't really use it for escapism.

I use it because I just really, I just think they're really fun. And I never really wanted to, I would connect with the characters war, like say I'd play Mass Effect and I'm connecting with Commander Shepard, but I never wanted to be Commander Shepard. You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of, right, right. I never really felt like I wanted to be in the game and do this. I'm like, I'm making Commander Shepherd do this cool shit. And Commander Shepherd is the shit because he's doing things that we're kind of like-minded. So just as an example.

Like, Avatar. Yeah. So I kind of like that. But I've never. So the idea of like ritual, like, I've always liked, like, laser tag and stuff because it was kind of like that in a little bit where it's like, hey, I'm almost on a map. And then it's like I'm fucking playing. And that shit like that's pretty fun. I think when things are like perfected

I think I'll jump way like more on board Yeah yeah But like I mean VR is not quite there yet Like Boneworks is the most recent thing That I've played and it's incredible But it's still like you know you could tell Like you need a specific controller for it Is that the one that uh

We because on your latest video Yeah I was actually pretty impressed with that That shit is wild That is like the closest that I've seen For those of you don't know Just look it up it's by it's by developer I think it's by like a few people but the developer studio, I think, is like stress level zero or something.

Look up just gameplay of that shit, because it's wild. It's like as, it's what you would imagine VR is supposed to be. It's not there yet, obviously, because the tech is limited and, like, it's designed with these very specific controllers in mind that are, like, not available yet, really, because they didn't stock them properly. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I don't necessarily mean that VR is, like, the go-to.

But, like, as close as you can get to that without necessarily having to, set yourself up. Like a game like Breath of the Wild is a perfect example. That game is a virtual reality. You go in there and there are physics that you can manipulate. And it works in a way that you're like, I can't believe that fucking worked because that's exactly what I thought would work. And it's stuff like that.

It's like as convincing as the world can make it feel like. Because I know that there's games where it's like... I get what you're saying now. Yeah. Like imagine... I feel you. That's like the idea of the whole GTA games. But like everything for the most part has weight to it.

But we would have weight. to it. Right, but imagine like a thing drops right in a GTA game and then it's like it's like under a chair or something but there's a physical like a there's an invisible boundary that's like preventing you from grabbing the thing you fell into the chair it's like why the fuck is what the fuck is this? I feel you

you know but in the game with like a lot of physics and like stuff like Breath of the Wild that wouldn't happen and like for me I like I like immersion but I don't like playing I don't like I like games that are mundane but that's not my optimal you know mundane what do you mean they're not like regular like there has to be something else added to it to give me that glint of like oh this is a different world opposed to my world but

i um so like no gta so no i love gta but like the thing is that like the thing about gta that lets me like oh it's not my world is like the freedom of destruction right that's so free or like red dead like the theme the thematics of like having the old west like that's still very real to the world but it's not real to my current existence you know right yeah it has to be recognizable enough for you to get invested but not so recognizable that you you become bored. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. There's definitely a healthy balance you can find. And dude, some of the stuff that you're saying, because I remember we were talking about, because there's a lot of things that I feel people could have made games infinitely better if they just added simple things.

Like, hey, I can just jump over this little platform. And then I don't have to go all the way around because this is stupid. Like something that. Like Pokemon. Something. That shit's literally there, like little ledges.

You know what really frustrated me? In God of War II, there's a part where you get, quote, unquote trapped. You get stuck in this room with Perseus. And when you're fighting Perseus, there's these pillars that anyone can just walk through. Like if you're supposed to be trapped in a room, like it shuts behind you. But in one of the walls, they're pillars. That one of the walls are pillars. And you can just climb up and then walk through the pillars. And I'm like, yeah, it's like one of those things where it's like in real life you'd be able to get it. It's

fine if you want to confine the player. If that's like part of the game. But you have to confine it in a way that like you, you as a player could look at it and be like, yeah. Yeah, how the fuck am I going to get out of? You shouldn't easy to be able to problem solve. This shouldn't happen, you know? Yeah, it reminds me of, because then that's just a disconnect. You're just like, why the fuck can't he get out of here? I would be able to figure this out.

It's like, it's like the last of us whenever Ellie would like walk in front of guards and she wouldn't be seen. And it would neutralize how you feel. And it would kind of like, oh, what the fuck is that? Like, I get why they did that because it would be fucking frustrating. If she ruined your stealth. And it would be, it would make you hate Ellie, like honestly. Like it would just

Everybody hates every character That is associated with an escort mission They're automatically hated Because they're inherently tedious So I could understand why they didn't do that But at the same time the tradeoff is That you get periodically Just kind of sucked out of the game

Because you're like, what the fuck Yeah, that's true Yeah, no, but I'm 100% agree Dude, you know I actually loved and hated that about Resident Evil 4 When escorting Ashley Oh my God, I fucking hate Ashley It was so frustrating

But when like getting past day, Especially that one part when they're trying to carry her away And you need to like snipe those dudes off of those like high platforms I remember And this is something that I learned interesting too Because I I failed that part multiple times Because I kept killing her You know because because they're trying to take her away

And then you're kind of panicking And you're like fuck okay I need to shoot a little bit straighter But sometimes it doesn't happen You actually shoot her in the fucking face And then she's dead And I learned something by watching a game about like Oh are games too hard?

or this. It was this, I forgot who made it. It might have even been a game theory. It might have been Matt Pat talking about it. But one thing that I didn't notice in while I think the reason I got, I was able to get past it so easily at some point is when you fail enough, sometimes games will, without you even noticing, they'll remove some of the enemies. You won't even notice it. And this is something that I was like, I need to go back and start playing some shit and then testing this theory out because he was showing that like, oh, certain people just aren't there anymore. But you didn't notice it because you're so fucking frustrated. you're just like, I just need to get this done. I hate that.

I feel like I would notice because I'm so frustrated. That's what I see. Oh, here comes the fucking guy. I thought, but like it was like this one scene that he was even talking about. It was, it was, it was in that game in particular. And I was like, Res. New York 4. Oh, right, right, right.

Yeah. And I was like, I need it. I need it. And I know I played this recently, but I blazed through it. So I kind of forgot to test it. But apparently a lot of games do that. And now I'm like, I feel. I'm like, fuck.

I feel cheated if that's like real. Like, I mean, well, apparently it is real from, from, uh, from that game. Yeah, some games, some games do it. I don't think most games would do it. Most games probably don't, but I suggest if I'm correct, please correct me if we're wrong. I think it's game theory. I think it was, um, they were talking about that, the difficulty. Like, if games are too difficult or something like that.

Um, because I've always said no, you know, I was like, I don't think so. I think, um, that the settings, especially when you have settings, when you can go all the way to like veteran or hardcore whatever it is. I always think that shit's great because now you can really pick your play. I like to inch my shit up as I go. Right. I always play as,

I always play the thing above the regular. I never play regular. That's usually where it's supposed to be. That's a sweet spot. I think that's typically the, the spot above normal. Normal. Yeah.

I always go to hard. Yeah. Hard or like not, or the thing before super hard. Yeah. Is typically, I think, the best experience for it. You get to play the game and you get to play the game that really understand the mechanics of the game.

Yeah, because the, yeah, because the AI is definitely going to do some shit that they don't do in the pre-in-the-pre-levels. Yeah, and the second you get to, like, insane or, like, legendary. Yeah, that's when you love something. That's when you love something and you want to test how good you know it. Right, exactly. Definitely, you're not supposed to do that on the first go. Absolutely. If you do and you do it, then that means you're a masochist.

If I played Halo 2 on Legendary the first time through, I think I would hate the series. I think I would fucking hate it. It would have been a bad experience, I bet, yeah. Do you think anybody's ever, especially anyone listening, have you ever been, I think of the mode's called Iron Man,

when you can, if you die, you game over, it's like, it's like, it looks like you're real, you only have one life. In Iron Man? What? No, it's called,

it's called, Iron Man. In what? In games, there's a few, like, say, Gears of War has that. Uh,

Google has it too. Oh, one life, and it's one life. Yeah, that's ultra nightmare, I think. That's all ultra nightmare? In Doom, yeah. It's like one life and you're done.

Yeah, so I'm wondering if anybody is ever beaten that. Like, anybody even listening? It must. That shit, I know there's people, I've seen YouTube videos of people doing it, which I don't even understand. That's just ridiculous. I don't, I can't understand it. I tried it. I tried it with Doom.

I got three levels in and I died, and I went to sleep. Of course. Because I got so mad. I got, because I didn't even think I did anything wrong. You're not someone that can deal well with video games fucking you. What are you talking about? What am I talking about? Yeah, what?

You're like, you're a person like, if a game, like, you're playing a game and something ridiculous happens, you're like, I fucking hate this. And you stop. No. Yes. What are you talking about? There's no evidence that you could bring forth for that. Yes. No, no.

I get mad too, but I don't give up in games. I have to, I have to be it. So I can't. What about rage quitting? Like, what, you guys, I don't rage quit too often. You've never rage quit. Oh, no, no. I've definitely rage quit.

I've done it before, but I don't do it too often. Like if I because for me it's like when I lose something there's a reason why I lose and I don't want to have that reason continue. Okay. So if I rage quit, that means that I'm just allowing myself to continue a disability to lose, you know? Yeah. So it's like you got to fix that. But some games just aren't well designed. And there are a lot of, there are a lot of like a good game is a game where you can die and you know exactly why you died and you know exactly what you did wrong and you know exactly what to do to avoid it next time.

Yeah, that's what I feel about like there's a game the Naruto storm games I don't think those games are very well designed because um I just I don't know like I'm I don't play that webe shit oh well you know I don't even play anymore either I stopped playing because I was like this is kind of stupid but for me is like um there's so many moments in that game where things happen where I'm like I could I swear I was using the mechanic that prevents things like that from happening you know yeah games I'm like ah this is not good when I play like street fighter or something like that if I die I'm like you know I died because I went for the punish and he And he was guarding, and he was able to retort and hurt me.

And I'm like, all right, cool. I have to figure out why this happens. That's why I feel like Call it is, like, not really well designed. It's horrible to be. I think it's fun in like a, like, a junk food kind of way. It's like a, it's like a console mobile game, honestly. I feel like that's how I feel like called me. I see.

It's fine. I get the high-octane nature of it. I think there are better high-octane games like Doom. But, like, I think, um, that's a game where, like, I'll die. And I would just have no fucking clue what I did. I'll have no fucking clue I play quality duty and I feel like I'm not doing it

Even destiny is like that Even destiny is like that Where you just die And you're like what the fuck How could that How did I die? You know It's frustrating as hell

And in like I gotta be real man The first Dark Souls is full of that shit I just don't fucking get it It's demon souls way worse But yeah I'm sure I'm sure I actually I actually played Demon Souls Yeah I didn't finish it

But I thought it was way Way better than Dark Souls Really? You didn't even gone You haven't gotten, look, man, you haven't given Dark Souls a fair shot. I just turned it on yesterday, like, last night, just to kind of see where I was at one of my saves. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. Check out this special moment we did on our show, presented by eBay.

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Take delivery by 331. And like I have this one, I can't even remember what the hell, the Chaos Blade. Oh, no. And the Chaos Blade, it's so. satisfyingly thorough like it's just thorough fast swings it's really powerful with fire

it's one of those things like if you you can get some weapons that are really and then and the thing is don't I don't use armor maybe I'll just have some pants on or something just to have a little bit of defense but just when you're just kind of just rolling and shit and then you're using the right weapons

it's not as clunky as you think and it really just and obviously there's still of course there's still If you're comparing them, of course. But the thing is, like, there's, you're not, you're not, in my opinion, you're not to, you shouldn't be comparing them.

You're experiencing something different. I'm trying to go into it with the, with the mindset that Resident Evil controls terribly for a good reason. You know, there's a reason why those games control like shit. That, and it's like, okay, what is the reason why Dark Souls controls like shit? And I'm trying to find it.

I'm trying so desperately to find it. I think it's the same reason, actually. And it'll punish you? I guess. But, like, Resident Evil's more about, like, I guess the old, it more applies to the older ones. Although I guess in the Newark. Yeah, it's the older ones. But, like, the older ones and, like, even four, I think, they punish you, but it's more about fear.

Like, those games are more about, like. Tension. Tension and, like, fear. So are Dark Souls, though, definitely. Not exactly. But I'm not fearful when I play Dark Souls. I'm angry. I'm frustrated.

And I'm sick of it. I'm tense when I play Darkers. I'm like, fuck, I can't. I'm tense because. I see a scary. thing down the hallway and I just know, great, this thing's gonna rate me. And that's my thing. It's like a huge inconvenience. It's just a game full of inconveniences. It's just not your game, dude. I guess not. It probably isn't.

But I like Sekaro and Bloodborn. So what's that? It's the deal. It's, it's, it's fast. It's fast. That's why a lot of people love it so much. Like, oh, this is, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like dark souls is more like, it's just much more humbling. Right. Because you feel much more helpless. Even when you are pretty powerful, you can still get fucked. Yeah, you still easily. Like, look, sometimes... You can just mistakenly

slip off a ledge after you shield. Yeah, like, still fucking, you can still roll into a hit and then die. What is it, um, what is the part of the catacombs? The catacombs, when it's, it's the giant skeletons are there and it's like pitch black. That still, I actually, because people always say the, um, uh, blight town is the worst. When you're going and it's all, everything's poisonous.

That shit sucks, like everyone pretty much unanimously agrees that black town is the worst. It's pretty bad, but I, know how to blaze through there really fast. I think, I think, the, I think the catacombs are way worse because you can't see anything.

Yeah. And you can get, like, you can have a little bit of light, like, here's your, you're like a little, you know,

thing and you have like this much surrounding you. It's still not enough. It's, it's so rewarding when you're done, though, man. Like, it's, it's one of those things that it's so punishing

that when you're done, it's definitely, it feels better. I felt much better being Dark Souls and beating, like, three or anything. Like,

any of the, any of the other from software. Dark Souls. Dark Souls 1 felt great. Bloodborne felt great because of how grandiose that story started becoming. It's, yeah. I feel like beating any game. And it's a second of course.

The last fight is insane. I feel like beating any game on its hardest difficulty would get me that. Oh, okay. Yeah, fair enough. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I don't need to play.

I don't know, man. I think I just missed the boat on it. Like I'm sure it was like cool when it came out. But like I go back to it and it's just like, not only is this now old and like kind of out of date with the way it plays. It's definitely hard to go back to it. It's just like. I feel like they're

game even the newer Dark Souls are probably better than the first one as far as how it plays No uh yeah Three plays so well Three plays really really really well Like as a game I don't like too at all I just hate that game Yeah it's but do you hit that game for the way it plays

Do you hate that way because Do you hate that game because it's designed poorly It's There's a difference I'm on that I'm on the ladder I'm on the ladder I'm on the ladder I'm on the ladder with the decisions that they made

That really really fucking upset me Especially when you fucking fucking die when you when you when you when you die and if your life starts just being cut more and more and then you probably are left with uh seven-eighths of your life after you've died enough times you need to have these i forgot what they call human effigies um you got you have to grow your life back essentially it's the most that sounds that sounds like really awesome it's so now they're like oh this is cool this is a cool way to punish people it's like fuck you dude i don't need anything else like there's a fine line between fair punishment and just rampant abuse.

Yeah. That's true. You know? That's just not, especially if you run out of stuff, if you run out of, it's, it's not hard.

Like, you can find resources, but just say you're trying to just get some shit done. Now you have to fucking go, like, farm because you have no life to fight an upcoming boss or something. The thing is,

the thing is, it brings me back to Kratos being stuck in that room with the pillars. Yeah. It's like, if there's a thing that I can see

that is obviously wrong, it's going to frustrate me as a player. And like, I'll always remember the sword thing, man. The sword hitting the wall. I'll always remember that. Because it's like you can, I don't mind a game finding

ways to cheat for the bad guys. Because they're AI. They're not going to be as smart as me. Obviously. So I understand like, okay, well, an elite and halo is going to have like a slightly faster blast rate on the fucking gun that he has, you know, and he's going to do

way more damage than you would do if he meleys you. That's fine. That's a fine cheat. Because I don't really think about that. I'm thinking about taking the thing down. But the second, like, My short sword hits the wall and doesn't follow through with the swing, but this dude's like 40 foot staff just swings through the wall and cuts me in half. I'm just like, come on, dude. Now, you can do that damage to me.

I'm fine, but don't have him just do something that objectively doesn't work for me. Because that's, it's just frustrating. And I don't think I've seen that. I haven't seen that in Securo. I haven't seen that in Bloodborn. None of that. It happens in Bloodborn. I've never seen it.

Definitely. When you're fighting, when you're fighting the priest inside the, um, inside of the church, when you turn to that big beast, it swipes, it swings past like one of the pillars. And I've been hitting them. How far into that is it? Not very far, right? The priest, the morning priest and Budbourne is not that far. She turns like that big, like, wolf thing holding the coin. Oh, yeah. I don't think it's towards it.

I don't remember feeling cheated in that fight, though. That happened to me because I thought I was like, oh, maybe I should get behind something. I was like, oh, I shouldn't. I mean, the thing, look, I understand how something like that totally turn you off. Oh, yeah. It's, I'll go back. I'll stream it. Look, you don't have, I think that's good idea.

I was because someone. I'll stream it. Someone asked about that, and I was like, oh, maybe, but because I've done it in spurts, That would be cool to stream. And look, I think it won't have one thing I understand about hitting the wall is that it's more about where you are when you start your swing. So if you're a little bit too close to the wall, when you start your swing, then you're going to hit the fucking wall. But if you say you can follow through with an attack and your sword will go through the fucking wall, but you were just away from it enough. So it's not going to, it's not going to always do that.

I know. I know. I've experienced. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand that you have to just like memorize hit. boxes.

Yeah. Yeah. But that was so jarring the first time I saw it. I get it. That's one of those things I can really like just like I'm not going to play this. And I think I was like what? Like 14 or something. I was like what the fuck?

Fuck this. Like what? I'll play dead space. I get it dude. Like some games are like certain mechanics and games that it's just not attractive. Trash like that, whatever. You can criticize the fuck out of that game, you know? I definitely.

And look, to anybody that's never played Dark Souls for whatever reason, I will never judge you. But I will judge Sweeney for not. Plame Aspect 2. That's all saying. I'm sorry. I just never played it. My bad. I know, but I'm still going to judge you. It's pretty horrific of you honestly. Dangle Blampy wrote in. Hey, you're back again. Our good friend, Dangle Blampy. I love that name. Yeah.

Question for all of you. What's the first time a series you liked, let you down? This applies to any type of entertainment medium you can think of. I guess Dark Souls 2 is the most obvious one. For you? For you guys. Let me down? It's probably more than that. The first time, a series that you liked, let you down. Any series? Like, in a game?

Any game, any, I don't know, I guess, I guess it doesn't necessarily, the way he says series makes it seem like it doesn't even apply to music, but like I guess it could extend to it. Anything. The first time I was let down, truly, truly let down. I remember it. Go then, let's hear it. Spider-Man 3. That was the first time. Hey, there you go.

I remember I walked out of Spider-Man 3 for the first time as a child. I was a kid. It was like 2007. I think it was like 13 maybe or something. I was like, I walked out of the theater. I had my Spider-Man shirt on. Yeah. So excited.

I walked out of there and I was like, I don't think I want to see that again. That was the first time I think I ever remember seeing something that let me down. Like I don't think I've ever, before then, I just never had that experience. I've had that experience with, I don't remember which came first. It might have even been the same year. Batman and Robin and Mortal Kombat Annihilation. I think that might have been the same year, actually.

It might have been 97. I know Mortal Kombat in Outalation was 97, and I always say, when you're a fucking dumbass little kid and you think something's bad, like you're saying, you know, holy shit. In retrospect, that is a heaping pile of shit because kids don't think anything's bad. No, exactly.

And that would have been my experience up to that point. Everything that I had seen was amazing. Yeah. I played like Fight Night Round 3, a game that I didn't even like, I don't like fucking boxing. You know boxing. But that shit was like, I was like, this is fucking amazing. Burnout, fucking burnout revenge.

This is fucking amazing. He's so cool. Yeah. I would play demos of games that were objectively bad and think this is so fun. Absolutely. I played the demo for Lost Planet.

That's actually a bad example because Lost Planet's kind of good. That's fun. But like I play the demo for Lost Planet on the Xbox Live arcade or whatever the fuck. I thought it was like this is the best thing I've ever seen. Played the demo for Byersack.

I was like, this is the best thing I've ever seen. And just like I walked into Spider-Man 3 like, what the fuck was that? I'm a kid. I should have loved what I just saw. You should have loved that. But I was bored. I was like, fuck, there's a fucking,

he's getting. married and it's about a ring fuck this I don't know dude I feel like most things that let me down I just kind of forgot I was like this garbage I'm not gonna remember you just like blocked it out of your memory I would say the first time

I played something and I was like this don't feel right was uh I think it was oh it was Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Z Tengaiichi Really? Yeah because I remember I couldn't go Super Saint in the middle of fights and that shit bothered

Oh yeah yeah you had to pick the fuck out of me. I was like, what? That was the game I got a big Super Saint-Gohan? Yeah, that was the game where you had to like every Super Saian transformation was its own character that you had to pick. This is stupid. Oh, brawl. Brawl let me down. Super Smash Bros. Brawl? Yeah, that game hurt me. I remember. I remember because I remember playing as Marth and I was like,

why I played as Martha and other ones? I like, he has a store, he's cool. And then his son was so small and I was like, uh. They made his sword smaller? I was like, okay. What the fuck? Yeah, his sword was That's when melee so was like a fucking It's like a fucking a sphere If we're talking about video games The only thing I can come to my I'm sure I have a lot of examples

But one thing that really comes to my recent memory is It wasn't a bad game They just changed too much stuff in a Marvel versus Capcom 3 Because if you go to Marvel versus Capcom 2 That game was ridiculously good Two is so good And everything about two is good Aesthetically visually

Freaking the maps are cool I can go on by that game for hours I want to take you for a ride I want to take you for a ride. I love that song so much, actually. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. I remember everyone.

We're all unanimously. We're all like, what the fuck is this music? And then like maybe a week or two later, we're like, oh, this is a fucking dope, dude. It works so well. And it feels so, it feels classic. So think about it. Even at the time. Even at the time, for some reason, it felt nostalgic.

What the fuck is that? How? There's so many. That game had some, that game had Smash Bros. Ultimate level of characters. Yeah, there was there was like at least 50. There was at least 50 characters in two yeah fuck Yeah, I mean more I think it's more than that would you unlock them? Yeah, you know no you had to you had to unlock a lot of them. Oh fuck dude, I never even did that dude. I would just play with the fucking starter Ross. It was a lot there's there's there's a lot of yeah You start with a lot of people. Oh no, you definitely I remember this I remember just played him and unlocked them but I remember this being so many people remember they had to be like captain command all around you had to unlock one of the Wolverines. I know that you had to bone claw will yeah They had to unlock bone claw.

There was a lot of, and there was different versions because there was a version that had, like, say, Jetta from Darkstalkers 3. He was the main boss in Darkstalkers 3. He was not in most of the...

He was in, like, an arcade version. There was, like, Baby Bonnie Hood, who's, she's one of my favorite character. She's this bounty hunter from Darkstalkers 3. Looks like Little Red Riding Hood, but she'll kick your shit. She got the fucking crew with her. Yeah.

She has all those buff fucking... I was like, oh, man, they're probably running train on that bitch, dude. Did you have a... It was a kid. No, no, no, she looks like a kid. Did you ever have like a roster that you had Like a specific like three that you would pick?

So this is why I was so insanely disappointed with three So Captain Commando was always on my team from the first Marvel's Capcom Because he's such a good he's the best anti-air Dude this fucking pillar is lightning pillar too Fucks anybody's the best anti-air Like he'll for restarting combos to dude We can go on a Marvel's Capcom for a yeah we could We're not going to

But so So he was always on my soul on first Marvel's captain was Captain Command on Spider-Man. And so Spider-Man is just too agile who fuck your shit up from anywhere. He can cling to the freaking corners of the back. I love, and then Spider-Man's my favorite.

Like, I can start off in five seconds. I'll do a quick six-hit combo and then do a crawler assault on you and you're fucking, you have like a percent of light-love. And people would always be like, but I was like, dude, anyway, we're getting too deep into that. So in the third one, it would be,

okay, so I'd always, a lot of people would get mad, but I don't get what fuck is in the game. I use cable. So cable was a piece of shit Cable's the regulator Cable so I'd always start I'd always start with a Spider-Man And then I would have Captain Commando

And then Cable Cable was the fucking regulator Whenever my other two people would get killed Then I just bring out Cable And I didn't cheese like everybody would do Well you just do the Piper Vipers No but like so that was my that was my main team Yeah for me it was easily It was Ken always at first for the assault

Captain the Commander for the Antire And I would have Mega Man in the back For just like a quick Quickness get you off me with his little touch his little like showyukin yeah and i would dude ken's combos would fucking dog people down he wasn't as good as riu because hadoken didn't go as far yeah but his hits were faster man oh yeah i always had like tron bonnet spider man and uh no tron bonnet and cable we're mine always a piece of shit but cable's really he's a cable he was so good though

like he was objectively so good sentinel was he's um he's a lot of people's main when they're playing up pbp dude cross map that crossmack and storm Storm was Dude Storm What a nerdy Conversation? Storm's hypercombows

Were fucking ridiculously Powerful Fucking Wolverine's fucking thing When the X comes out of him Apparently he's moving That fast Oh yeah

The Fatal Claw yeah Mirage Claw Tornado Claw Drok Oh my god All that shit All that shit was pretty amazing So in number three

So there was Tatsunuku versus Capcom Cool game That was only for a Wii And it was all that Nerdy fucking Japanese stuff You know that Like like a Voltchon

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Residency restrictions apply. Take delivery by 331. They took the button schemes from that, where it made combos for three-year-olds. So all you had to do to do a combo was to press light, medium, and heavy, and it was just in a sequence. So if you're playing on PlayStation, Square, Triangle, Circles. That was that and then you would press X for to do your start your air combo It was it was for three-year-olds and I was like well this is Different and easy and I don't really like that and so they took that into number three

So that pissed me off and then they took out Captain Commando and I was just like I'm still buying this game I was the it was the first game that I like fucking pre-ordered I don't really yeah I don't fucking pre-order games Because I was like I was like I was like what the hell do? I don't give a fuck about that I don't know what the fuck I pre-order I don't know what the first game I pre-ordered was. I genuinely have no idea. Maybe like 17th first game I pre-ordered, honestly.

Yeah, I'm trying to fucking remember. I can't think of it. Because I didn't pre-order Halo 3 actually. I think Arkham. I got Halo 3 from Gamefly. Oh. I had it mailed to me. That's right.

Gamefly. You can buy some games from there. Yeah, you could buy it from there, but like, I didn't pre-order it. You don't I bought from there? The Wolverine game, the X... Oh, X-Men Origins? That was a great game. That is a fantastic game.

That game is hyper-violent. I fucking. love it. Like it was stupid good for no reason. It makes exactly that you took the words right on my mouth, man. Because like the movie was so atrocious. And then everyone was like writing reviews were like, this game's fucking really good. What the hell's going on here? He felt so good. He felt like a fucking, a super person. I felt like actually Wolverine, like tearing people to shreds.

It made you feel like you're getting shot at and you can see your fucking like, yeah. You can see the ribs like, he can see his ribs and shit and like it'd just be regenerating. And like, you'd go off feral and like just that jumping attack he would do. Yeah, a lunge. That lunch. That was one of the, like that was back when there were a lot of middle market games that were coming out that were just really good. Like it wasn't even necessarily that there were masterpieces or anything. I don't think like X-Men origin Wolverine holds a candle to like Bioshock or anything.

But like those games were fucking solid. Like the last few pandemic games were like really fun. Like mercenaries too and the Saboteur were actually like super cool. It's a shame that that studio got nailed to a cross by EA but like whatever. Yeah, he's bearing everybody, so... Dude, I can't stop. I'll always think of that. The second I think, this, every time EA pops up, I just think of pandemic.

Always. Like, they'll never be able to, like, erase that stain from my memory. I mean, get fucked up. How do you, how do you ruin... BioWare got so big. So, you know, having Star Wars IP, then you're creating your own fucking IP, right? And then just being so big to the point where kind of circling all the way back to the beginning of this podcast, they were going to make a mass effect movie in 2012.

Yeah Like it got that big We're like We got to do this And this is something that we're gonna do And I don't remember exactly what happened And then all the way to now Where you're like

How did this happen When we're talking about Star Wars And it's like How do you fuck up something this big And something With that much lore with that So much work already done Yeah

And then I still kind of scratched my head Where I'm like I just I didn't know they were gonna do A mass effect movie Yeah Yeah And it was gonna be

It was gonna come out Like right after The third game. I would have been a terrible idea, by the way. Of course it would have. But you know what? In retrospect, I was thinking about when you were saying about video game movies.

And I was thinking if they would have came out with it, I'm sure it would have bombed. And maybe it would have been a teaching moment and moving forward at least maybe like endromeda would have been better because they already had a bomb. And say, make an indrama would be like, all right, we have to recover from this terrible movie. Maybe. And things could have been different. I could see that happening. Yeah. But it's like.

I got to have been a lesson they learned then. Yeah. I don't even know, man. I just think video games just make for better series. Oh, sure. I just don't know if... Because three hours is not enough time. It's not.

It's not. It's the story of a whole entire video game. Not at all. It's insane. Like you spend, even a game like Halo 3, which is like super light on story, has like 10 missions. It takes like at least five hours. Yeah.

Five hours of like, you know, fucking doing a lot of shit. Intent to get to even like close to the end. So like, I don't know, man. It just, it lends itself far better. I think I would be far more excited to see a mass effect. series on like Netflix or like Witcher That's not like necessarily a game first

Kind of adaptation But a lot of the visuals are taken from the game And a lot of the design elements are taken from the game For me Yeah At any time when there is a world that exists already It would be done better as a show Because of the fact that to explore the world thoroughly

You need a lot of time You need time to soak in every part of the world Yeah imagine how are you like In thinking about Mass Effect the amount of characters that they have How would you make that into a movie? You couldn't. The last airbender. Last airbender was the biggest sign.

Just a loyalty mission in that. A loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2 would be its own movie. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Because they're so in depth. And it's like you can't do that. It's impossible, especially with RPGs.

RBGs are like the least. They're literally just stories. Yeah. It's kind of like, well, they try to do that for, they try to do it for Prince of Persia. They try to do it for Jake Gyllenha. Which is, I understand for marketing purposes, but still, it's like, oh, man, you guys, uh. You guys really fucked that one up. You guys threw the pooch out the window.

Yeah, man, but like, this Uncharted movie has gone through, like, so many directors at this point, and it's like, just make it a show. Honestly. I don't want to see, first of all, I don't want to see an Uncharted movie because Uncharted is just Indiana, Indiana Jones. We already have those movies. Exactly. So just make it a show. We don't have an Indiana Jones show. That's a very good point.

That's true. Who do you think would be, like, who would be a good, um, Nathan Drake and a good soul? Nathan affiliate young Of course I was gonna say Well you fought by saying young If he's probably listening This podcast now he's all excited

And I would I mean I would love to see Like dude I'm sorry He's aged He's still a guy He's still I think he can still do it He's still in good shape but it's like that He's definitely older He's definitely older looking

I think they could like They could do an older Nathan Drake though Dude I wouldn't mind seeing that Look how good Tom Cruise looked in that That atrocious mummy movie That came out

That's true Like that guy The one that put the trailer out without the sound. Is that really happening? Yeah, they put the trailer out without any of the music. So all you see is like a silent. It's just Tom Cruise in a plane and he's all silent and then you just hear like, ah.

It's just like all these, like all this folly. That's 100% real. It's one of those things where you couldn't make this shit up, you know? Nathan Philly isn't Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is very much so about his stunts. Like he does that shit. He's in like extremely good shape. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, look, look, Tom Cruise is also stupid for doing that because he stopped production multiple times for getting injured. Absolutely. Like that, because he's not Jackie Chan, you know what I mean? Like, where he can handle a lot of his stuff. And Jackie Chan would fuck himself up too. But, like, I remember in the last one movie where he tried to jump and he fucked his ankle up. And it's like, oh, great.

And we're going to lose millions of dollars because there's this, this. I don't want, I was going to say something bad, but I imagine that there's an essence. He knows everything that's being talked about here. I can feel him here. He's here. He's connected. He's connected. really deeply to that religion he knows

he's connected to fucking us fuck the religion he's nice to people who do you think who do you think for a solely though um I don't know man I I don't think it matters that much Sully I think you can get pretty much anybody Mesmere from which it should be Sully maybe who was

who was in Mark Hamill I don't know anybody literally anyone literally anyone I can't think of anybody who wouldn't be able to play Sully I was thinking I know it doesn't really fit but John Lithgow I could see that working kind of okay honestly I mean actually no he got I forgot about his work in a Dexter where he's like I'm

evil guy and I killed your fucking chick That might be totally well The problem with a lot of these characters is that they're so defined by their voices Like when I hear Sully's voice I think of Sully That is like even in the Even in the Halo show that they're doing on Showtime or whatever the hell Like they're having somebody play Master Chief But they're using the dudes

They're using Steve Downs's voice You can't not do that That's very true It'd be like Imagine fucking Marcus Phoenix From Gears of War Pops up And he sounds like

Fucking Jake Jol and all You'd be like Excuse me Who are you Dom Like what the fuck that's not You're not Marcus You're not

Dom I love I fucking love Mark No John DiMaggio He's so good He's so good Yeah

I always He played a really great Joker too Ridiculously I love love that he didn't end up in under the red hood oh yeah yeah like that was so good and i love that he didn't just like troy baker it you know like toy baker sounds exactly like mark hamill and i'm just like well that's fairness he was supposed to be the same joker from the same universe in arkham origins i get

it no i get it it's just i i i get it and he did a good job at that i'm not i'm not i'm not no he did a fantastic i'm not taking that away from i yeah i just like that like they didn't tell him to like, hey, try to be like Mark Homb. No, totally. I'm not taking that, I didn't say like, Troy Baker was like, I'm, you know, no, no, no, he was supposed to. No, I know what you meant. Yeah.

And, uh, but yeah, so I just love that like, like, he sounded completely different. And it completely worked. That was crazy. And then, uh, uh, Neil Patrick Harris is a nightwing, which is, I like, I like, I like no Patrick Harris a lot. I love that dude. NPR is a badass. Yeah.

Yeah. I know you don't like him in that, uh, that one shit that show we're talking about. I don't like him in a series of, unfortunately. I like him in everything else. I loved him in... Is that his name of it? No, no. He plays Counting Olav in that show.

I like... But I like Neil Patrick Garis. I like him in that show that he was on that I didn't really watch much of. I liked him in the musical, Dr. Horrible. It's like a classic internet show. I loved him in those Harold and Kumar movies

because he was great. He was just him, right? But he was an asshole? He was like a complete douchebag. And he was just like the most womanizer ever. And like, knowing that he's like gay, it made it so much better. Yeah.

Because he's just like just always. It was whatever, when he was there, it was like, we have to go get some women. You have to go find the whores. He took their car, he used mileage with their car. He gave the guy back money because he said he fucking destroyed his car. Oh yeah, there's like love stains all in the back. Can you imagine fucking Neil Patrick Harris? Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose.

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He would be so charismatic as him No No the best Marcus Phoenix would be John Lovitz John No the best Can he even do that voice I can't even imagine like what that would sound like

Michael Sera as Marcus Phoenix That'd be hilarious That would be disgusting Hey guys Tom Tom John Lovitz I'm trying to imagine like what he would

Like how he would say It's like, come on, Dom. Let's, uh, we got to get out of here before the locusts come. Hey, Tom, hey, Tom, we got a bunch of locusts here. Tom, let's get out of here. Can you do a Norm McDonnell? As Mark as Marcus, yes. I can do it.

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What are you doing? His voice is so fun to do. I love that he just played, like, he played a genie on fairly odd parents that was just named Norm. Yes, Norm a genie. And that was the first time I ever heard him. I was like, it was that and it was like, I don't know if you ever seen dirty work? Yes, I have. With him and Artie Lang?

Great movie. One of the funniest, one of the funniest stupid movies I've ever seen. It's a great movie. Chris Farley has half. of his nose bitten off. Yeah, by a Saigon whore. By a Saigon whore. The scene at the bar

where he just turns around and like just screams himself to shambles. Yeah. It's one of my favorite. It's a great movie. It's definitely one of those throwbacks that, um, that don't come up enough actually.

It's, it's a really, really good movie that I'd say, what? What do we get? Millennials? They need to get on that shit. It's a fun movie.

It's just ridiculous. And then like fucking Chris Farley's in it, which is already like makes it great. Yeah. Because like everything that he's, touched was like incredible. It was fantastic. Beverly Hills Ninja is like,

I love that movie. I saw it again as like an 18 year old and I was like, this is so much better than I thought. Like I couldn't even believe how much better it was than when I saw it when I was young. I was like, this is like genuinely like really funny and such a fun thing that I would love to sit down with my kids and be like, hey, let's watch this fucking movie together.

Look at Luke Kang's in this movie. It's like fucking, I think that's why I liked it even more too. Yeah. I love Tommy Boy, Although I haven't seen that in a while. It might have not been as fun. But I love dirty work.

It's just such a fucking mess. But my god, so we're at two hours. Isn't that wild? That's insane. Does not feel like that at all. So we should end here. Hopefully, I don't know what the fuck the thumbnail this is going to be. Maybe Nathan Drake eating a bat.

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