The Snark Tank - #157: Chris Ray Gun NEEDS To Apologize

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Chris, were you here? I don't know, maybe you weren't here, but I just learned yesterday or whenever the last time we were together recording. that And I will love you or whatever is a cover Whitney Houston That's a cover
Starting point is 00:01:41 Not an original song I just learned Dolly Parton's I had no fucking idea I thought Did you not know that Chris That makes sense
Starting point is 00:01:49 I could see that I could That makes sense That's like a lot That's like twist and shout By the Beatles and stuff like that Where it's like Why would you know the original really
Starting point is 00:01:57 Like Dolly Dali Parton I feel like Is one of those people Who's like Theoretically famous In the sense that I feel like Everybody knows who she is, but I feel like the majority of people
Starting point is 00:02:05 who know who she is haven't heard a single fucking thing from her. The thing is that she's famous from the generation just before us. Like, our parents know Dolly Parton is. Yeah, our parents know who Dolly Parton is, so we know who Dolly Parton is, but we don't engage with Dolly Parton, really. Absolutely correct. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Like, we all know Jo- Maybe it's more, maybe it's not as crazy. Maybe there are a lot of people in my position. Yeah, the only reason And genuinely the only reason I know that is because I think I went down a rabbit hole once of like there was like a top. There was just like some top 10 list. It wasn't like a watch mojo thing.
Starting point is 00:02:43 This was like before Machmo. It was like maybe like 2011 or something. And it was like songs you didn't know were cut. You know what I mean? And it's like, oh, interesting. Because I was like always curious about that stuff. And I think I just sort of knew that in the back of my head, even though I never thought about it. But you'd have no reason to know that really.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I only know that because I don't. I don't know that because I'm a fan of hers. That's why. I want to win my whole life. Dolly Parton posting? No, Whitney. Yeah, but see, that's big. Like, it's, it's the, when, how did you find, like, did she give a shout out to Dolly
Starting point is 00:03:17 Parton at something? It's like, oh, my nigga, this is my nigga dolly parton song, nigger. And then she started spitting bars. When she first, like, when they first became a really big, off, I've also watched, like, her documents and stuff like that, her biopics. Oh, well, that would, that would. It admits that it serves, but it was like this one. Wait, I'm, I'm gonna make sure it 100%
Starting point is 00:03:35 Because I know it's her, I'm pretty sure it's her song. What movie is that song in? I know the song isn't hers, but it could not be Dolly Parton's off while. So let me be 100% No, I looked it up, you were right when you brought it up. I looked it up and I was like, shocked. What are you researching? You're confirming it or something?
Starting point is 00:03:52 No, okay, I'm right, because I was, because part of my brain was like, it could not be Dolly Partons, but it is. It's her song 100%. And I remember hearing that and I was just like, oh, really? But I always, obviously, I heard Whitney sing it first and Whitney sang it better than much better than Dolly did unfortunately. No one of the respect to Dolly part of the singer.
Starting point is 00:04:08 He's a great singer actually, but it's like... It's like, what was that Tears for Fear's song that everybody Shout? Wait. No, oh my, Mad World. Oh, yeah. And then Gary... And then Gary... Balls, I'm sorry, Gary Balls. I'm sorry, Gary Balls. Tears for Fears made that song?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Tears for Fears wrote Mad World, yeah. No way. Yeah, and it's not, it's... It's not. sucks. I don't like that version. Oh, I like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I'm, but yeah, it's a very, it's a very different vibe though. Like, the thing with Gary Jules is like, Gary Jules is like, like, that's a good version of the song, but it's kind of that trope of, you know how like modern movie trailers will, like take like a pop song and they'll make it like slow and sad? Yeah. Like that's, it's, it's, it is kind of the first time that that that had because my world isn't really like, like, Like it's supposed to be one of those like pumped up kicks kind of songs where it's like, oh, it's sad, but like it doesn't sound sad. Like it's a juxtaposition kind of deal.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Right. Yeah. But is Mattiard not a sad song sounding fun of you? Not the original. Not the original. Oh, not the original. Okay, gotchas. I was like, that song sounds hell of depressing.
Starting point is 00:05:22 The words are, but it's, again, it's like a pumped up kicks thing where it's like, I'm in a school shooting. Oh, what fun. Yeah. Whatever the fuck. I don't know what that song was. example of that is a third eye blind with that's do do do do do do do do it's just like about like doing drugs or some shit
Starting point is 00:05:40 and it's like it's like it's like it's like the happiest fucking song ever and then like this thing's about doing drugs yeah yeah yeah like I want something else to get me through this yeah like it's it's about it's about I think it's 100% about drugs yeah
Starting point is 00:05:56 and there's that other song that Vanessa Colton song way way I like they're just learning this was great. You're kidding, right? That's not doing judge for real. That's why it's such a, like, we talk about a juxtaposition like that. It's like the perfect example of like, how the fuck is this song so dark, but sounds so damn happy. That's, I know that song so well. No way.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That's why it sounds happy. Right. It's, it's supposed to be like, oh, I'm on, I'm fucking, I'm fucked up, bro. It's, it's good. It's a good, like, I was like, this genius. This is absolutely genius. That's great. Have you seen the thing with tears for fears when they were like they did um they did uh rule the world but as like now like in 2002 or thing or 21? No but I saw them I saw them live with Gabby like like a couple like it was not a couple years ago now it's it's like seven years ago now Jesus Christ but they were playing with hollow notes and that was a good show so like I don't know are they still
Starting point is 00:06:55 can sing right? Yeah they can still sing right there'd have to be almost in their 60s down They got to be like older than that Yeah, like yeah, maybe They're probably like late 60s, early 70s I would imagine late 60s It's not early 70s Although maybe like my perception of how old they are It's like really wrong
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like I don't know Because my heart still sees them as young But how old is tears And then how old is fears How old is fears? How old is fears? There's two of them, you're right Tears for fears age
Starting point is 00:07:27 Like I don't know I said I put Tears for Feard's gauges. Gage. I don't care. I don't care. This is too long of a list.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I don't know they're individual names. So I have to put it to shod. They're 56 and they're both 56 years old. Wow. Really? Wow. How old were they were in? That means they were like teen stars.
Starting point is 00:07:48 They were fucking really young when they blew up. They were really teens. They were very teens when they started then. You know how I found out about tears for fears? Fucking, uh, disturbed of all fucking. bands. Oh, yeah. They fucking, they covered shout.
Starting point is 00:08:05 They called it Shout 2000. And I, of course, as a fucking 12 year old or whatever the fuck didn't, no tears for fears. And I was like, this song is very different from what they, what Disturb has been sounding like. And then somebody told me, well, yeah, there's a cover, you dumb fucking retarded kid. I'm like, fair enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:24 That's a reasonable reaction to that. Do you think Disturb looks back at their music and is like, oh, fuck, dude? I imagine, that's a guy. I like that as a question. I would love an interview. Like, do you guys, do you hate yourself for making,
Starting point is 00:08:36 uh, down with this sickness? Like how, do you know how many, do you know how many fucking, how many probably autistic kids, listen to your song and define themselves by the idiotic music you made? And they're probably like,
Starting point is 00:08:52 please stop. And they don't do any of that shit anymore. So, so, so, they don't, where you're, They don't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:09:01 What you're asking. You guys are my friends, right? It's so funny. I love that video so much. You showed us that video at the house and I could not stop laughing. It's so funny. Is that disturbed shreds or? Disturbed shreds.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You guys are my friends, right? And like embracing the fucking change. It's so funny. Yeah, do yourself a favor. Do yourselves a favor and look up disturbed shreds. Bro. I wonder, are they still making those shreds videos? Like, those shreds videos think so.
Starting point is 00:09:35 No, it kind of fell off, and I think actually it would be a great comeback. It would be long enough to where, yeah, I agree. So what you're asking. You could start the fuck out of some modern songs, man. So what you're asking, by the way, is when you ask, do you think about, what's his name, David? David. David. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:54 David, David, does he, does he look back and feel personal responsibility? over the over the his audience and how they interacted with this content is that what you're asking five star fucking transition is that what you're asking transition that is absolutely that is absolutely what I'm asking
Starting point is 00:10:11 put it equals three equals three like cube transition here I want him on the podcast so bad bro Ray William Johnson will never talk to him he he lives in a subterranean tunnel system like I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:27 he works for Facebook I don't think he talks to anybody. He works for Facebook, I'm pretty sure. What do you mean he works for Facebook? So now he, so that means he's like... No, like he works for the Facebook company, I'm pretty sure. Or like some type of representative or some shit?
Starting point is 00:10:40 I think so. That is so fucking bizarre. Somebody can get a hold of him. Bro, I love how much he said the N-word in 2010, bro. I loved it. It was amazing. You think he has any... You think he has to...
Starting point is 00:10:55 He's ever reflected and feels like personally responsible for all the N-words he's drawn? No. I mean, is this a word? He wasn't using it derogatorily. He wasn't using it to describe anybody. He was adding, he was using a flavor button. The flavor and word, you know, that one is fine. The sentence enhancers.
Starting point is 00:11:11 The sentence enhancers, I love that. The flavor. I love that. Oh, man. We got to talk about the elephant in the room. If any of you that are listening right now are on Twitter, you probably caught maybe a little bit of some. Discourse,
Starting point is 00:11:29 the discourse, or fallout that has been going on with Idub's his apology video where he was kind of like trying to atone for his,
Starting point is 00:11:39 you know, his sins or what he believes that like he's really done some big damage on the internet. And so the conversations have been going wild where I participated in one thread
Starting point is 00:11:51 of something where Ninja got involved in Ludwig and this guy Willie Mack and shit. It was just because it won't stop. But. Yeah. It reached a fever pitch, at least for you, Chris, when Francesca Ramsey, like, fucking, like, what's that asshole's name that does the RKO out of nowhere?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Randy Orton. Literally. He's on the floor, bro. He's on the floor, bro. He's going to be like, I got him. It was cool. Who has thought about Francesca Ramsey in, I haven't, I probably, 2017 is the last time I've, Legitimately thought about her.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah. Nearing 10 years. It's so crazy. So she's still seething. And here's the thing. I need to preference this before you take the floor. Sure. She's seething.
Starting point is 00:12:43 She has this manufactured outrage because how this whole thing started, she said that you guys expect us to accept your apology and just move on. And remember, this whole thing started because of Idub's video. in that video, he says, I'm apologizing, but this is nowhere near enough. Like, this is just the beginning of my, you know, quote unquote atonement, I guess. Not, I wouldn't say quote unquote. I'm paraphrasing. But like, if she watched the video, she would understand that.
Starting point is 00:13:13 But she is coming from an angle where she said she's like furious because people are expecting that. And I'm like, bro, that was never any of the discussion. That was never any discourse where people were like, okay, sorry, bro, bye, you know, you need to be cool with me now. And then she all of a sudden started name dropping your ass. And now tell us about your fucking experience because I didn't catch all of it. I only caught a little bit of it. Dude, it's, it was insane. I couldn't believe it because there's, look, I understand the nature of the internet and fandoms.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And I have no fucking doubt that people watched my video, right? and just ran over to her account and fucking started spamming bullshit and harassment. I hate that shit, right? Like, no one, that's really fucking stupid behavior. By the way, that extends to this. If you're listening to this, this is us just talking about stuff. You don't got to go and be a warrior for us. We don't need help, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah. So don't harass anybody. But that's just the nature of talking. That's just, honestly, it is just the nature of talking about it. Like when she dropped all this random shit out of nowhere, I got people in my DMs literally saying like, oh is your, I hope your family's still alive. Wink, wink.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And it's like, what the fuck is this? It's so fucking unhinged. But like, but the difference is I don't blame Francesco. I don't think Francesca Ramsey is like, like, intentionally like raising an audience to go send death threats my way. I understand that these are fucking unhinged individuals who don't know who are fucking parissocial and fucking weird and, and, you know, that's just the nature of it. Right. But if the conversation was, hey, I've not gotten an apology for some of the harassment that I got as a result of these videos, right? That would be one thing because that's something that I would genuinely be like, oh, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:06 That's really shitty. I'm sorry that that happened to you. I didn't intend for that to happen, but that's the nature of things. There's a lot of unforeseen consequences all the time. And I feel bad about that. Nobody deserves that. That's really shitty. but instead of doing that it was like hey uh you know that was the beginning and then it was just a stream
Starting point is 00:15:26 of genuine lies the likes of which that i actually fucking couldn't believe like it was actually bewildered in the sense that like i thought i thought i genuinely thought better of her or at least like i held her up to like at least a basic standard of not predict rejecting herself into situations that had nothing to do with her. Because I had a really popular music video a long time ago, like about seven years now. Fucking good. Or like something like that. Some crazy a long time ago called And Aeros for the Trigger. And in that video, there is a cartoon character that is, it's just a generalized cartoon character, right?
Starting point is 00:16:10 It happens to be a black woman with Lox. I don't know if she understands my background at all, but I know many people. I don't know. Like, I have aunts who look like that. So, like, the idea that it's, like, a very specific caricature is hilarious. But she was like, that's me in the video. And I'm like, what? I remember, like, reading that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I was like, is it? Like, because I had to go double check. And I'm like, no, I didn't think so. Because that, the entire section of the cartoon that she thinks is hers or about her. She literally says, like, oh, in this video, he says, he claims that my character has a, has a Patreon and got Chris fired. I never did any of that. And I'm like, yeah, because that's not you.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That's not you. It was such a weird thing where it's like the very facts that you are addressing are the things that disprove your assumption. Like this is not you even slightly. That whole story was about Donglegate, which is like an ancient story at this point. And so do you remember that? Ah, the name, but I don't know what it was about. It was literally, it was literally nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It was literally just like two guys made like a dick joke about like dongles at a conference and then they got fired over Twitter. It was like, this is like ancient, ancient shit. And she was like, no, that's me. That's me. And then she said like this video, by the way. And the video is about a guy getting fired over a joke tweet that he didn't think anything about. And then she assumes like, hey, by the way, the tweet that. is referenced in the video is this one.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And it's just some, it's a tweet of mine that says something about like Martin Luther King spinning in his grave by the, by the current racial tensions, which is not, I don't know, it's not offensive also, I don't think. But also, it's not, that tweet was posted a year after the video. So it's like, I just, I was honestly baffled by like the ineptitude. And it really spoke to something, right? where it's like, and I really don't want people to go over to Francesca, right? I don't want you guys fucking going over there.
Starting point is 00:18:19 But I do believe this is true. I think the sheer ineptitude of that argument and the fact that she posted screenshots in her own tweets that are impossible. Like in the tweet, like in the same screenshot, it's like this video 2016, this tweet's 2017, this video is inspired by this tweet. The fact that she posted that and didn't you, she didn't proofread it, she didn't second guess it is a really big indication of how shitty her 2017 content was. And the fact that it hasn't improved is astounding. The reason why we made fun of that stuff is because it was as stupid as this is. I agree. Like if you had, if you had like an argument or at least.
Starting point is 00:19:09 like if you put it together in a way that made sense, no one would have come to you as if you were cannon fodder. Like, I'm sorry. Yeah. And the idea that like, and look, and I saw a lot of people being like, oh, Chris is like denying that the pipeline exists. I know the pipeline exists. A million people have told me like they either like fell down the pipeline starting with me or like fallen out of it because of me. I'm aware that that exists. But I also don't like this current, this current conversation that's happening as if people don't.
Starting point is 00:19:39 also have agency as if people don't make their own decisions. I agree. Like I agree people. People take any excuse to blame other people than themselves, you know? Right. I said, dude, if you become a bigot, that's your choice, you know. Well, it's not necessarily, it's not a hundred percent. Let them cook.
Starting point is 00:19:57 It's, it's not a hundred percent your choice. What I'm saying is like, I don't bear the entirety of that responsibility. Are you fucking kidding? That's, to me, it's like doomeded Columbine all over again. You understand? Like where it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, do you really think that is it like is it software responsible for Columbine? Like should they like make a public apology because the kids who did Columbine fucking happen to play a lot of Doom and be a fan of Doom and plan the shooting out in Doom by the way?
Starting point is 00:20:26 That did happen. But everybody understands. No, no, no. I'm cooking. Let me cook. All right. I agree with you. I fucking.
Starting point is 00:20:35 We understand that all media. has a butterfly effect. I am absolutely certain that my videos led people to fucking think stupid shit. I don't think I'm responsible for that, though. I don't think I hold the keys to your lives in the same way that I don't think I, like, in the same way that I kind of think about if I choose to go outside today and I choose to drive, and I choose to take up a space in traffic that displaces the entire row behind me, if somebody behind me gets in an accident as a result of me simply going out,
Starting point is 00:21:12 is that, like, am I respond? Like, I don't think it tracks. And it's fucking crazy. And we understand this when it comes to music, television, movies, video games. We understand that, yeah, there's a probably non-zero chance that if a kid plays a violent video game, he might be negatively affected, almost objectively speaking, right? But the percentage of those people is so minuscule. in comparison to the overwhelming amount of people who are affected
Starting point is 00:21:39 who end up doing nothing that we accept that that's a possibility. And the developers aren't sitting there gilting over it. I don't know what people want from me, quite frankly, because I was aware that the pipeline existed. I saw the people that were showing up to my recommended, fucking people like Black Pigeon Speaks, and I'm like, who the fuck is this freak?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Right? And I remember being like, I don't want to be a part of this anymore. And I remember specifically making a distinct choice to shift focus and content. I specifically made a choice to stop the musicals because people kept fucking misrepresenting it or twisting it. And like I didn't want to fucking do anything. I didn't want to deal with that shit. Five years old, a lot of the shit is. So if the goal is to, hey, Chris, you shouldn't make that content.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Cool. I agree. That's why I haven't for five fucking years. What's your point? Like, do you want me to grovel? I'm not going to grovel. Like, I don't, I don't get it. Some people do.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Some people do. These people want, these people want the, these people want the apology more than they want the function of the apology. And that bothers the shit out of me. Like, get fucked. I don't care. I don't care. I'm sad that you got harassed.
Starting point is 00:22:52 That's really shitty. I don't support that. Right. Remember, remember, remember, and I think this is really important to remember, there, there's a lot people that still exist out there that don't care, say for example somebody was a white
Starting point is 00:23:12 supremacist and then they become, they renounced all that stuff and they're like, oh, I don't do any of that shit anymore. That was a dark chapter in my life. I'm fucked whatever. I'm trying my best to be, you know, an outstanding citizen and contribute to my, blah, blah, blah. There's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:23:28 out there that are angry at you, Chris, that would never accept that person. That's not a They went down that one. They went down that one. My point being is that some, to some people and the ones that are particularly angry, there is no path to redemption. And, and, and, and I, and I know this is true because I tell people all the time that I've always kept a spectrum of, of, of content creators and my subscriptions who I would listen to because it's important to get, you know, differing points of view and to really discover what's really happening. somebody who I've named dropped a lot of time that a lot of people don't like is Dusty Smith a lot of people don't like him because of how fucking hostile he was I still watch him
Starting point is 00:24:12 I listen to his podcast, his live streams he actually talked about you in his last show and about this situation some of the people in his chat actually were pushing back a little bit and he didn't even finish because he got really pissed off but he even said at one point that I don't remember who it was specifically
Starting point is 00:24:27 but somebody was mentioned Dusty favorably on one of their live streams or something. And somebody that was a guest was like, well, I don't really like this guy because back in the day, I heard he used to be a conservative. And it's like, what the fuck does that matter? This guy's like trying his best to like be a positive beacon
Starting point is 00:24:48 and actually help like promote in a non-toxic way like he used to back in the day. Where he seems he's trying his best to be way better. You know, his take on you was pretty toxic where he doesn't know you or anything that you represent. He just kind of thinks like, I think he thinks that you're like He feels like you're making the same shit or something
Starting point is 00:25:05 I don't know Yeah we used to go at it a lot I remember I remember making fun of him a lot I don't say this is all ancient This is so by the way this is all such ancient stuff That like I'm almost Like I don't care like if there was ever a grudge That I held against these people
Starting point is 00:25:19 I sincerely forgot it I don't really I don't think about dusty at all I'm sure he's fine Like you know Because I think like when you exist on the internet You understand And especially when you meet people from the internet
Starting point is 00:25:31 in person, you, thanks to like vidcons and all that stuff, you begin to realize that like Twitter is not a real place even slightly.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And it's not really all that representative of anything. In fact, it's like the, it's like the, it's like a, it's primarily a misinformation
Starting point is 00:25:48 site, I would argue. Especially now. And so, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I haven't really tuned into any of the
Starting point is 00:25:56 takes that people have had, but I just remember, I don't I don't like the idea that somebody can Because even by most of these people's admission They'll be like
Starting point is 00:26:11 Well Chris wasn't saying anything necessarily But his content was in people It was adjacent to people who were And so it's like Well even by your admission The things that I'm saying Aren't making you racist Like I'm sorry that you decided to go in this weird direction
Starting point is 00:26:28 But there's a lot of people who watch me who didn't go in that direction. So what does that say? Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, like, what does that say? This is all dumb. This is stupid. I don't understand. I don't understand. Like, I'm listening to this and I'm just like, no, no, no, no, but no, but, but, and people, and people are like, you don't, why don't you take responsibility. It's like, I take responsibility for a certain aspect of it, which is why, like, I changed the content. That's, that's the point. People, people, people, people think they're, they're deserved an apology, right? What happens is this, right?
Starting point is 00:26:58 When you notice, when you notice what you're creating, like Ian, literally, when he finally noticed what he was creating was creating toxicity around the world, he changed it. He does not have to come to the world and be like, everyone, I bear my soul witness and I bagged forgiveness for what I've done. You're not racist, Chris. Your content wasn't bigoted. It was insulting the political party that you also were a part of. That is it. That is it. People may have seen that and wanted to draw conclusions based on what they wanted to see in here,
Starting point is 00:27:37 but that is not anyone's fault. Yeah, not to mention when you time and time and time and time again be like, yeah, I'm a left-leaning person. I consider myself a lot of liberal views. And then people still choose to go down a conservative rally. Well, you know what it is? You do.
Starting point is 00:27:53 You know what it is? I really think it's a matter of... What do you do? How do you fix that? Well, you know what I really think it is? I think it's a matter of there was a lot of people who like were also saying that same thing and didn't mean it. And so like, like, for example, like, people like Sargon, right, would say the same thing, right? It would be like, oh, I'm a classical liberal or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:13 He's not a fucking leftist at all. Like, that dude's a fucking... He joined like the UKIP party or something. He's not even slightly like, like it's crazy to even imagine. But, you know, but, you know, he's not. there was a time where like he was saying that as well and everybody was kind like because I actually meant it I feel like a lot of people just like oh that's an easy way to fucking deflect criticism if I say that that's so fucking stupid it's like well that's that sucks but I was
Starting point is 00:28:36 serious like every even when I was like making fun of like like specific like black lives matter protest and stuff like that like I remember being like listen this is not the organization all right this is these are individuals and we will treat them as individuals because this these individuals are stupid. I remember when there were like these four activists who kidnapped that, that, oh my God, that, that, I, listen, a mentally challenged kid, right? The mentally challenged guy.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Do you remember that when they beat him up for like 24 hours? That was, I mean, is it, is it a right wing opinion to think that that's insane? I don't think so. Is it a right wing opinion to think that man spreading isn't a really serious thing that should be treated seriously? No. Is it right wing to see? to say that we shouldn't be
Starting point is 00:29:24 doling the term Nazi out so frequently that it loses all meaning? I don't think so. Like, I really, I don't think anything that I've ever said falls outside of a perspective that is entirely in line with shit that Carlin was saying.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And that's kind of like, that's the point of, and that's the point of frustration with me where it's like, I understand, like, I look back at some content and I was like, yeah, I feel like I was maybe like too angry in this, in this video,
Starting point is 00:29:52 or maybe like I took things too seriously in this video or maybe like I would word certain things differently but overall the things I'm talking about I wouldn't change and so in that sense I can't apologize because I'm not actually sorry about those things I'm I feel weird about some of the ways that I addressed it
Starting point is 00:30:08 and like I don't know some of there's some opinions that I think have like slightly shifted but even the opinions that I've had that have slightly shifted have not left the overall like domain of the same kind of sphere you know I was Kingston, was there ever a fucking point in my life where I was like, yeah, I love the cops. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:30 This is the thing that makes it so funny, right? This is what makes it so funny, right? I've known you. Right. Since we were, since you, we were both 17 years old, right? Yeah. We're both almost 30-year-old men. You know, like, it's, it's, it's just, look, like, as much, as much as, and this is what
Starting point is 00:30:51 This is what the thing became, right? That era of YouTube, my biggest, my biggest problem with that era of YouTube was the lack of conversation, right? First and foremost, conversation doesn't get clicks. Coming to a middle ground doesn't get you money. You know, that's why we never saw that. We never saw that, you know, we're like people, that was the time where that political stuff was getting people bags, you know? So, like, people weren't being like, let's sit down, have a one-on-one conversation with each other. Right. And I think that would have led to a better, a better state of political spheres.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But that's, you know, here nor there, because that's over with. That time is gone. We can't do that no more. Right. These people now, instead of watching people's change and growth, they're holding on to old perceptions of you. One thing I've learned is that if people are going to hate you, they're going to hate you no matter what you do. No matter what you do. Yeah, a friend of mine. You literally decided to change your content. You literally were like, oh, I don't like that this shit is getting so gross that I'm going to leave this. And for the last like three, four years, you've only been talking about video games or just ridiculousness in your videos. And now the political stuff is still there, you know? And by the way, like, if I do talk about politics, I make a really distinct effort to point out.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like, because I think that was like, I think it's a fair criticism that I didn't necessarily, in older videos, I would make, I would specifically make fun of things. that I did like, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't necessarily, outside of like Twitter and like some smaller videos that weren't like the big videos that everybody knows, I didn't necessarily say what I believe. I did leave it open to interpretation in some ways. And then, you know, after, like, ever since like five years ago, if I ever touch on a political topic, I make sure to say like, hey, by the way, this is how I feel, right? Yeah. I usually do it in the sense of a joke because I think that's like, you know, nobody wants to hear what you fucking think, quite frankly. It's the main reason why I didn't do it back in the day because it just gets in the way of the joke.
Starting point is 00:32:54 But, you know, there are ways to do it. And I think, I don't know, to me, I think because the era of the internet that we grew up in, especially the era of YouTube that I grew up in, was a very, very different era. It was like, and not in the sense that things were okay that aren't okay today. That's true too in some way. But I think the reason that I feel okay making the jokes that I made or poking the fun at the things that I poke fun at is because for some reason, that I feel too, I think, And I admit this is naive. I assumed that people would just understand what I was talking about, like, just through osmosis.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Because when I was a kid, the only people watching my videos were people that I knew in real life. And that attitude kind of extended where it's like, I know what I mean. Like, and my friends know what I mean? So what the fuck do I care? What like random strangers think I mean? Let me, I want to piggyback on that. That should kind of like, you know, people should.
Starting point is 00:33:50 should just get it. Like when Tom, when Sweeney and I made that like I hate the gage joke, the whole reason that that joke exists is because the idea that we would say that is outrageous. Yes, exactly. Like that's what's funny about it. That's what's funny about it to us. That's what funny about the comedy we enjoy. Like the idea of someone saying something so insanely bigoted is funny because like who the fuck thinks like that? Like you're a real person? Yeah, but there's a lot of people that don't understand dark humor. They don't. Well, I understand.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Or they choose not to, or they choose not to. They choose not to. They choose to take the words at face value instead of the actions, you know. Well, they don't think that it's harmful no matter what. Even when they say in any context, I saw a guy, and I couldn't tell if he was joking or not, when the whole Pink Floyd controversy happened with Dark Side of the Moon just recently. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And I saw somebody say like, oh, this isn't cool to do in any context. And I'm like, well, just because of Roger Waters, the way that he was behaving. And I'm like, but that's the point. I don't know. Like, there's, you can't get around it. That is actually the equivalent of taking a clip of Christoph Waltz from Inglious Bastards and saying, like, this is not okay in any context. Christoph Waltz is actually a Nazi. Like, that's actually fucking insane.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I agree. That dark side of the moon shit is bat shit insane. And it's, and it's, and by the way, it is bat shit insane from every perspective. Yeah. From a left-wing perspective, that is fucking crazy. Do you think Carlin would be like, oh, man, yeah, that makes sense. I feel like people forgot, I feel like people don't understand what left-wing means. Because I saw a lot of people, like, I literally, and I can't believe that I got this, this comment.
Starting point is 00:35:41 This blew my fucking mind. They deleted the tweet, I think, because they were getting shit for it, rightfully so. But they were like, I don't know. remember arguing with Chris in a comment section about how Resident Evil 5 wasn't problematic. The idea that he's trying to convince people that he was ever left wing is insane. The idea that, like, I don't even know where to begin with that. Like, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me explain something very simple to the people, like, and I doubt anybody who actually engages with this is watching, because as I, as is clear as day, no one, who actually is taking part in this conversation,
Starting point is 00:36:20 who is against me, actually watches any of the stuff that we make. But... True. Politics isn't when people are nice. Okay? Politics isn't when people are nice to you either. All right?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Politics are what people stand for and what they believe in what they say. That is literally what politics is. You can't say that somebody isn't on your political side because they don't think Resident Evil 5 is racist. That is fucking insane and you should stop going on the internet.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I sincerely think that if you think these things you should not have access to the internet. I don't think you're responsible enough. I don't think your brain is equipped to handle really anything. I really sincerely believe that. There should be a test. There should be a test.
Starting point is 00:37:11 There should be a test. I love it. I'd love that. And by the way, this is exactly why I support. This is part of the reason why I support free health care because I feel like, you know, a lot of you need it. A lot of you need therapy and I understand that you don't, you can't get it because it's fucking stupid expensive. What a horrible country we live in.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I get it. I feel the same way. Hopefully we can come together and get you the therapy that you need. Yo, I, I can't agree more. Can we be real for a moment? Can we for a moment be real and talk about how, how, look, I told Christus before. and he thought I was insane for saying it. But the fact that you kill Africans in Resident Evil 5 is a little funny.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I don't know why. There's no good reason why it's funny. No, there's no good reason why it's funny, but it is. No, there is a reason. There actually is a reason. I'll explain the reason and I need to. I got to close this chapter amicably because there's a couple of points. that we miss, but the reason why it's funny, it's literally like any other dark humor,
Starting point is 00:38:21 because there is a small amount of people who actually think it's racist, who gets our mind thinking in a way that, well, this is kind of funny that Chris, this buffed white antagonist is just blasting a bunch of black folk. It just, it becomes funny in that context when literally the context is him, like when Chris was in, uh, was in Spain blasting Spaniards. Leon. Or like when, when, uh, you're in, Ethan Winters is in Eastern Europe. something blasting some Slavic people or whatever the hell they are.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It's the same thing geographically. The idea of mass murdering people, the idea of killing that many people and then being powerless against you is funny. You kill so. Black men when there's a word to call them. It becomes even funny. Can I say something? Can I say something as well?
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's piggybacking off the same thing. It is hilarious to me that we can go generations. This is the fifth Resident Evil game. we can go four full games of mass murdering people mass murdering like villages in Spain fucking shooting up a fucking house like all these like oh yeah these mass murder simulations are awesome and then the second it's in Africa it's like oh this is the problem this is this is this it's like I love that idea where it's like it's all fine until it's there it's like whoa but but look like don't you feel that's a huge problem there's like I'm trying to interrupt you
Starting point is 00:39:45 Derek, that's a black person. That is a huge problem, right? And what happens is that most of the time the people that are complaining about this don't look like me or Derek. Oh, no. Most of the time of people that are complaining about this don't look like us. Absolutely. I don't know any of my brothers. None of my brothers were like, oh, man, I can't believe I'm in Africa.
Starting point is 00:40:05 No, we're all like, oh, man, Shepa's fucking bomb. Exactly. Exactly. Or Josh is cool. I like seeing Josh soup like zombies or dang, she's as strong as fuck. That's what we were thinking. Well, what happens is this, right? These are the problems that, this is why you guys made fun of those groups, right?
Starting point is 00:40:24 This all again, boy, was back into like, you're complaining about this. Meanwhile, there's so much systemic bullshit that still exists that you guys want to do all these left-leaning fixing things. Let's start properly aiming towards these things that are really problematic. Yes. Why are we mad about this video game when there is an abnormally high prison rate of black people for no reason or we're getting over-policed. Or how about like, hey, isn't it interesting that the price of housing has skyrocketed it like completely disproportionately from the way that people have earned? No, no, but all of these things. All of these things are really fucking serious and matter to everybody. even if they don't think it does, it affects you. A million percent.
Starting point is 00:41:16 All these things affect you. The prison system, even if you're not arrested, affects you. So I agree, right? I agree with you, Chris. But what happens is this, right? These are people complaining about racism. Completing about racism within this game, right? There are so many social problems race-wise that exist.
Starting point is 00:41:34 There are so many institutional problems that raise them resist. And there's a ton of systemic problems that need more attention than this game where you decide to. If we were in Africa, we were shooting white people, that'd be a problem to. It'd be a problem no matter what you put there. If you put a bunch of Dutch people there, that'd be like, look at all the Dutch people that came and colonialized. And now, there's no black representation in this game in Africa. Did you see what just happened recently with that game where you're an Aztec dude stealthily taking out conquistadors? And did you see the response in the replies to these whiny freaking, uh, of these Western Imperials?
Starting point is 00:42:12 list like cucks that are just like I couldn't believe it but this is serious yes they made an issue out of it this is this is precisely why I feel so strongly about this where it's like my the way that I always saw political correctness wasn't necessarily like a oh the left
Starting point is 00:42:28 it's a left wing thing I think I think political correctness is people being offended by shit that really doesn't matter and I understand that's a broad interpretation like everybody has their own interpretation of that but like when I see I don't know when I see Cammy in Street Fighter 6 or whatever
Starting point is 00:42:43 in her fucking classic outfit and it's hot as hell and people complain about it where it's like I saw an article that was like oh man they brought it back they shouldn't have put this in it's like shut the stop shut up like this is not important at all and then in the same vein
Starting point is 00:42:58 when I see shit people like people complaining about this Aztec game or like there's a BLM pin on fucking Miles Morales's backpack shut the fuck up is the movie good is the game good yes okay
Starting point is 00:43:10 shut the fuck up. Like I don't, I, this, this, there is a level of just genuine over sensitivity across the fucking board. And it's frustrating because I understand that this is like, this has been warped for some reason into a right wing talking point, even though people like Carlin were saying this fucking ages ago and the right hated him for it. This, these are the exact types of people who are, they're so unsurious. You cannot, you cannot value their opinion. And, Anybody complaining about a BLM pin on a character's backpack who is black, who lives in the modern era, is just a fucking moron? Anybody complaining about, oh, gender neutral bathrooms on the fucking dead space spaceship?
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's a fucking moron. Anybody, like, looking into the legend of Zelda and being like, oh, every fucking power that Link gets is a way to fucking promote the gay agenda. These are real takes, by the way. That shit was awesome. That shit was awesome. I'm sorry, but these are a guy. It had me rolling. These are the same.
Starting point is 00:44:14 These are the same people. These are the same type. It's the same type of people. I don't think it's the same scale of like evil and just stupidity, but it's the same level of emotional immaturity and uns seriousness. I don't value any of these people. Chris, you sound like you're being very consistent about being highly supremely annoyed about this dumb shit that does not matter. And I feel like there's so many people, including Francesco Ramsey, just going back to that, that. They did not understand why these people propped up in the first place.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And they just, you know, since a lot of it was coming from the left, there was, and I always like the preference, because I did say it's not just the left. It's not just progressives. It's specifically progressive ideologues. These people who are ideological zealots that were just really, just putting their fingers and sitting them into everything that they were a part of. Where, and I've said this, I want to make this so clear. I'm somebody who and you guys too probably
Starting point is 00:45:12 In jest so much gaming media There's okay there's the magazines And then when it went online you went on the websites And there was just consistent like whatever you fucking went on Kataku Polygon some people did rock paper shotgun I always my favorite was games radar because they never changed They're saying we're going to talk about games And I was like cool cool cool cool cool here's the thing
Starting point is 00:45:32 You saw when they started introducing their own politics into articles and it's like what the fuck am I reading bro Yeah by the way it happens It happens on the right now too Where it's like it's just like Oh absolutely Dude the fucking They're doing it now
Starting point is 00:45:45 The response to that Aztec game is hilarious Like I couldn't believe I was like you guys are fucking It's so fucking stupid Hold on hold on Let me let me let me reiterate Let me let me let me come from a different point right Politics Social politics are fine right
Starting point is 00:45:58 But what happens is Don't force them down the throats in a medium That is sort of neutral of that You know Like I liked I like like Like reading reading reading some of the time of the articles right and it's finding out like okay there's there's this particular thing and it's a weird place to seize a lot of people taking social stands like while
Starting point is 00:46:16 you're playing like fucking max pain three or some shit like that and there's like this weird political stance it's like all right i understand why you might say that but also shut up yeah and there's a time there's a time there's a time and a place for everything there is a political reviews that people are looking for about the ends and out of the game hey i was just like when I was shopping for a new graphics card I was just looking at all the different GPUs that are available right now and I'm watching a video
Starting point is 00:46:43 it's about a 30 minute review of the 4070 like TI that people are just absolutely trashing if imagine if that guy just started talking about like oh I don't know slave labor and all the mineral I'd be like what the fuck is happening I would be like what is happening right now
Starting point is 00:46:58 like white slavery or some shit like not white people's slavery but like did you know that AMD is aside from the fact that this graphics card sucks. They're also woke. And it's like, yeah, what the fuck is happening? And we saw that happen. And I want to say this because
Starting point is 00:47:14 people will talk about personal responsibility and all this shit. And I wonder if any of those people that are complaining about that stuff right now, have they had any reflection on themselves when it comes to number one? Hostility? Because there is some stuff. There are some things that Francesco Ramsey would talk about in her videos that were valid points. But it was always with this overtone of hostility that nobody wants to fucking listen to other than other hostile people, breeding hostile environments.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And here's the thing. I fucking hated. And this is the biggest pushback that I was doing during that era, that I'm like, we know that these basement dwelling weirdo white folks that are all like, oh, I'm an insult and all this shit. They've always existed, but they were underground. When you keep beating the drum that these people are so shitty, and then you give rise to pieces of shit like fucking Richard Spencer and Nicholas Fuentes, who have always been
Starting point is 00:48:06 in the gutter, but now they have a reason to latch on to these people and say, I'm your savior. You guys are actually persecuted. You guys are actually victims when they're fucking not. What happens is unintentionally you. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah, but you're right. They pushed them to fucking
Starting point is 00:48:22 join these stupid cults. And I'm like, guys, stop doing this. This is leading. Like, we saw where this was leading. And I wonder if any of those people had any reflection at all of how because, like, remember, anti is always a response to something that already existed. So when you talk about fascism and then there was
Starting point is 00:48:39 anti-fascist, right? When you talk about SJWs and there's anti-SJWs, there's this dumb fucking movement of shit that was happening. And then people were like, hey, this is stupid. You guys are, to your point, Sweeney, when you're talking about, there's real injustice, there's real systemic racism, there's real problems. When I would talk about Black Lives Matter and feminism, I would always point out wrapping up in a nice, neat bowl. What is the point of my video? There's some real fucking issues that actually pains my heart. There are people that are suffering all over the fucking world. There's people suffering in this country right now.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And you're talking about spaghetti straps, man spreading. You're talking about the Black Lives Matter organizations are keeping all the fucking money becoming really rich and not helping. They didn't help in fucking New Orleans when there was another fucking flood. I'm like, fuck this shit. They're not actually doing anything. I would talk about real shit. And unfortunately, some racist pieces of shit.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Some goons would watch these videos and not take, listen to my points and it's like, yeah, fuck black people. And I'm like, well, fuck, man. I feel like I'm just. You know what I mean? It's like when I would talk to a wall. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:39 It's like when I would talk about like, specifically like these like weird instances of like, oh, like this scantily clad woman in a video game is sexism. And I would make fun of that because it's just not really. It's just kind of it's just art. It's like an expression of like. Dude, there's so much art for like the entirety of human existence has been like incredibly like sexualized. Nature. And so like. Sex cells more than anything.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Sex cells more than anything. And yeah. And I remember I would talk about it. then there would be people like oh yeah fucking misogyny's not real it's like yeah they take it to the next number here it's so it's so weird I didn't say the idea the idea the idea is it real it's the the the message is the opposite the messages sexism and misogyny are real and so we shouldn't fucking dilute these terms with such meaningful with such meaningless shit I don't know man I really do think to I
Starting point is 00:50:35 really do think on some level people do just see I think a lot of content has the trigger words man well no no what I mean what I'm saying is like I think a lot of content has the potential to be basically a Rorschach test and you know you you will see what you will see what you want to see in some way even though what you're looking at is a fucking ink blot like if you if I showed you an ink blot right if although in this case it's crazy because it's like if I showed you like a sentence that said sexism is serious don't dilute the meaning and then you looked at it. It was like, oh, it's not real. Like, it's even crazier than that. But, you know, it's, I don't know, man. I think the best way to
Starting point is 00:51:15 grow as a person is to accept responsibility in the immediate, not to like throw, not to throw it somewhere else. Because I think that that's really what a lot of this pipeline conversation is. And I respect that there is a pipeline. It's obviously real algorithms exist specifically to keep you engaged with content on platforms so they can get more ad revenue. And the best way to do that is to keep you engaged. The best way to keep you engaged is to get you angry and interacting and arguing and all that stuff. Like, I'm aware of that. And so for me, I have to take my responsibility in the immediate. I can't foist it. I do think YouTube's algorithm is like the main villain here in the sense that they never even bothered to moderate it because obviously it was
Starting point is 00:51:52 working to their profit motive. But not to profit motive because, you know, YouTube operates at a loss, but it was making the money. It was doing well for the site. So they left it alone even though they probably knew what was happening. I had no control over that algorithm, but I do have control over the content that I make. And so when I grew a little bit older, I decided to stop making that content. I decided to stop fucking giving these people ammunition to twist my words into things that I never fucking meant. And that's my responsibility and I fix that. And so when you say, oh, Chris, you put me down this road, that might be true, but it's still your fucking responsibility. In the same way that it's not, I can't voice my responsibility onto YouTube.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Even if it is their fault, I fucking can't do that. I can't instate any meaningful change Because I am not fucking YouTube. And so you got to look in the immediate. You got to look in the immediate. I fell down this rabbit hole. Why? It's got to do with me, right? It's got to do with me.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Because there's a lot of people who watch my stuff. Right, because, yeah, it's, and to be fair, a lot of this is upbringing. A lot of this is parenting. A lot of this is, like, growing up in, like, the environment that you grow up in. In the same way that a million people can play. I'm not going to give them validation. No, a million people can play Grand Theft Auto, and then one person will play at the photo and be like, I want to kill people.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Like straight up, that's probably real. That's true. That is absolutely fucking true. And the reason is because their environment, for sure. Some people are hardwired weird or their environment is fucked. So look at your environment and fucking make those changes because I can't make those changes for you. What is, what is blaming me doing?
Starting point is 00:53:24 What is me blaming YouTube algorithm do? Fucking nothing. What I don't like about this conversation is a big game of guilty hot potato. It's like, oh, I'm not guilty. I'm not guilty. Just fucking take your lumps. You know? If I...
Starting point is 00:53:36 You came away from a fucking YouTube video about about people loosely associated with Black Lives Matter beating up a mentally challenged person with the opinion somehow that all black people are bad. And you have to think about why you thought that. And I bet that's a really fucking uncomfortable conversation to have with yourself, right? I bet that's a really fucking uncomfortable. It was sort of uncomfortable. It was just sort of uncomfortable for me to think that I had like maybe played a role in bringing people down into weird places. So I can't imagine not even having, like I can't, as somebody who just never believe those things. Oh my God. I can't imagine how you must feel the guilt that you got to feel. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:54:23 I have fun. I really hope you improve. I really do. But this game of who's guilty hot potato, it's fucking annoying because like the way that I think about it is like, You know, oh, a kid beat up somebody at school who used to blame. Oh, the bully. Well, it's like, what about the bully's parents? Oh, what about the bully's parents, parents, parents?
Starting point is 00:54:39 What about the bully's parents, parents, parents? It's like, it's like, it's everybody's fault. But it doesn't help to go that far back because eventually you're just fucking blaming a piece of a fucking tadpole in the Mesozoic era for your fucking mistakes. Let's go. So fucking stop it in the immediate where you have the most power to control it. Let's go. Chris, I respect. Right, right. But at the same time, fuck all this like, there's no, there's no, there's no, I can't, I can't validate people having truly bigoted views at all. Like, oh, it's upbringing. No, it's not. You're just stupid. You're just fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:55:19 No, I do think it is. I do think it is upbringing because, because, because, no, because do you, no, but do you, no, but Kingston, do you believe that people are inherently evil? Like, I don't, I don't, I don't know if I believe that. People are not inherently evil, right? But people. We learn as creatures that we have this existential dread that people will fuck us over, so we have to fuck them over first. That is the thing we kind of believe until we're befriend other people. And then we're like, all right, this person, people aren't, this person isn't that bad. I know I can trust this, like, these eight people, right? But at the same time, it's like, how can you hate a group of people? Meanwhile, I know, like, there's no person on this planet that has only,
Starting point is 00:56:02 only had bad associations with a group of people. Well, you don't have to do that. It's just indoctrination. I think of a great scenario. No, but see, look, what happens a lot. Kings said, we have that perspective because we, we were, we grew up in an environment. No, not even that, not even that, dude. But look, what usually happens to your point, no, to your point, what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:56:23 what usually happens, racist parents indoctrinate a kid, they become racist, they start meeting other groups of people and then they start renouncing their racism. and then they end up being very angry at their parents for doing that. Now, look at, this is kind of what people are trying to extrapolate to content creators like us, but what they really should be saying is like, okay, their parents were fucking edgy, maybe saying, you know, in their home jokes that to those people would be perceived as racist, but they're just jokes, just like edgy jokes, right? We were saying something that's like, oh, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And then this kid, because he found those jokes funny, somehow went down a pipeline to, the alt right. And look, would you, would you blame that on the parents for having edgy, you know, like just being like St. Chris, you have, exactly. That's what I'm saying. These people are trying to blame they're trying to blame those parents, you know, this is all
Starting point is 00:57:15 hypothetical, for that kid finding fucking Richard Spencer or whatever where the parents were not preaching Richard Spencer's rhetoric at all. Like, it's like, come on, guys. I understand, right? I understand this, right? But what you're, what you're trying to say, I still, I hear your
Starting point is 00:57:32 But what happens is that I guess I have some basic level of like comprehension. I guess some people are more the ability to be able to comprehend the information they're being given and some are just, just can't correctly. Well, I think you just had a better environment. I think we all just had better environments.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I don't think anybody's intrinsically racist. My father, my father is not a very welcoming person to even his old, I'm, I'm Hispanic. My dad is not a big fan of Latino people. My dad is also Hispanic as well, but he's black-skinned. So, unfortunately, he's had a very particular situation around people that are fair than him, and he's not a big fan of fair-skinned people, right? I've heard that shit throughout my life.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I've heard about colorism throughout my life. I've heard about it disrespect. I'm a black person that grew up around older black people. Derek can vouch for this. There's a ton of bigotry and homosexuality. our culture just simply because of the fact of all the shit we've been through, right? Sure, yeah. But since I was a kid, I was just like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:40 But I don't know, man, this one white person, Tommy Oliver in Power Rangers is really cool. They can't all be that bad. What if someone like Tommy Oliver exists? I want to be friends with. That's how I thought is. That's just simple child. That is a child's brain doing that. That is a kid.
Starting point is 00:58:56 That's you, though. That's you, though. That's the thing. We can't extrapolate. our experiences onto other people. I was an idiot. That's a dumb-ass kid's perspective. But that was your, look at you, your brain is not the same.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Look, the ignorant masses is a thing, right? I understand that ignorant masses. Look, look, I was lucky. I was not taught to question what I was being, you know, indoctrinated with, what they were trying to get me with. When I would be taking to church and stuff like this, for example, and when they told me these stories, instead of accepting it, I already kind of knew how reality worked to a certain extent.
Starting point is 00:59:30 so I couldn't accept the stories they tried they wanted me my grandma every time I talked to her she still was trying to save me my grandma's still trying to save me she's nine years old you know what I mean I remember I remember having the same experience going to church and being like
Starting point is 00:59:46 it was it was weird because I remember being like I guess I believe it because there's I don't know any alternative explanation but also like none of this feels right like this feels kind of like a cartoon. Like, this doesn't feel real. Same.
Starting point is 01:00:03 But like, at the same time, but I do think that, I do think there is an element of, I don't think it's directly related in this, in the same way. I don't think there's like one straight line. But I do think there are brains that are wired, not necessarily that they have like a more, that they have an easier proclivity to kind of fall in line or like maybe just sort of unquestioningly go through life as opposed to question things constantly. I do think that does exist there. And I think that leads people
Starting point is 01:00:32 Like imagine like imagine if you If you're just kind of like If you just kind of accept everything It's like yeah okay Whatever like and that's how your brain works And then you also And you grow up in I don't know Manhattan You're probably gonna be fine probably
Starting point is 01:00:44 You're probably gonna get fucked over a bunch or whatever But like I don't think you're gonna I think you're going to come out of that situation Like believing the same things As a person with that exact brain in like Mississippi You know what I mean? I understand that where you're born What you're taught all those things do
Starting point is 01:00:59 to affect you, right? Absolutely. Because I was born in a place. I was born in the Bronx, New York, dude. Everybody there was either, most people were either Hispanic like me or black like me, you know, most, not everybody. There was a melting pot, but the vast majority of people had either skin color that was similar to mine or people related to me, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I was able to deduce that people that were even different, people that were like Asian people. I've made people that look, that looked nothing like me. And I was able to give my own perspective. Homosexuality now, when I was, yes, younger throughout church. They tried and they nearly fooled a kid me. And then what happened is exposure. Simply, I encountered one gay person. I spoke to them and I was just like, oh,
Starting point is 01:01:41 that's crazy. That's true for a lot of these, these basement, why we always call them basement dollars, I mean, I even have a fucking basement. But the idea is there that they are hermits. They don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:01:52 They don't talk to anybody. They have no experience with women or what have you. Even online, the internet gives you so much information. and broaden your horizon. It really does. I guess, you know, peer-to-peer interaction.
Starting point is 01:02:05 To really break this shit, you got to, because that's why these people all start, all those white people that felt like they were being attacked, because the thing is, it's really, it really is a confession at the end of the day. If you feel attacked by these articles
Starting point is 01:02:19 that were being spewed out, well, maybe you're one of these shitty cis white hip motherfuckers that they're talking about, you know, but not just general, because there's a lot of white people that were just like shrug their shoulders.
Starting point is 01:02:29 this is dumb. And then they shrunk, they didn't go running to fucking Richard Spencer or whatever, right? They were just like, the fuck is this? Like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:02:37 And then there was the other person that's like, oh, I can't believe this. And then they found their brethren and 4-chan, wherever the fuck, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 There was different reactions. The person that felt lonely, that felt like they didn't have anything, they didn't have any friends, and it's like they just, maybe they were bullied. I don't fucking know. And then here's the answer.
Starting point is 01:02:55 This guy that's pretending to give a shit about them, like what Andrew Tate's doing with everybody right now. This is the simple solution More it's like but if you Come on guys I want them to be smarter Because it's like look at Andrew Tate's life
Starting point is 01:03:07 Oh he has these rich and shit But he's in and out of fucking jail Serious charges He's not married Like the stuff that he's saying That you should be doing he's not doing Why the fuck would you listen to that guy Why would you listen to these people
Starting point is 01:03:19 And like I want them to be smarter And going back around to our content I expected our viewers to be smarter To be able to watch our videos and then basically they come to the same conclusions that we fucking did. And then really at the end of the day, you and I were just trying to make people laugh. Like most of my content, not all of it, but most of my content I was trying to be funny. They're trying to do something, wanted people to laugh, trying to make things not as serious,
Starting point is 01:03:44 even when it was a serious situation. You know, but like I said, every once in a while, I made a content talking about a trans person, not about nothing about them at all. Use her correct pronouns because I don't give a fuck. And then I saw a handful of comments like, Why are you calling a she, bro? And I'm just like, fuck. Who the fuck are these people?
Starting point is 01:04:04 I didn't influence them. I didn't tell, I didn't say that's a dude. But they were there. I don't know who the fuck they were watching before. They made it to my channel. And you know what I'm saying? I'm like, what the fuck do I do with these people? You can tell them to piss off, but I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You gain the access of the internet. You gain, you gain pretty much the cosmic cube, the fucking infinity stone of knowledge. and you decide to follow Andrew Tate. Imagine thinking Andrew Tate's a good. Imagine like even at 16 years old, right? I could have been a 16 year old back when I was scrounging for pussy when like I don't, I didn't think anybody in the world for you understood me. If I found Andrew Tate and I immediately saw any sort of sexual allegations involving him,
Starting point is 01:04:51 I would be like maybe this is not the dude, man. That's also instantly, dude. That's also that there's also something about that as well where like I feel largely the same way. Like I feel like because I was angry. I was angry. I was a virgin. I was misunderstood. You know,
Starting point is 01:05:10 everybody like everybody. Yeah, but like the thing to me, right. I was fine actually. The thing to me is. I was fine actually. I'm honest. I was, I was young. Sorry, Chris.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Go ahead. 17. I hit my stride. But 16, I was. I was angry. I'll be honest. I was not an ancient. danger. I got lucky. Chris, worries I'm
Starting point is 01:05:29 angsty. I was upset because women didn't make sense and they still don't. The thing about it is I don't know. I feel like if I threw 16 year old Chris into 2016
Starting point is 01:05:44 I don't think I don't know man I don't think he'd come out a racist like I really I don't think so I'm sorry. I don't think I understand I understand that that That's like, it's a hypothetical and we can't prove that. That's fair. Like, I know there's a lot of people who are like, if you threw me back in the fucking
Starting point is 01:06:05 1700s, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would have spoken up about slavery. It's like, okay. No, you wouldn't have. No, you wouldn't have. Like, I had a bunch of black friends like, somebody would have would have whipped me like that. I would have fucking was like, no, you wouldn't have. You would have got a foot chopped off at some shit. Yeah, like what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:06:21 I do think a lot of people probably, I do think, how I know, slavery is one of those things where it's like it does feel innately fucking evil. And I do feel like maybe a lot of people felt that way, but also was like they did. They did absolutely. No, no, no, no. This is how things are like, what do you do? I argue a lot of people that questioned it after they questioned it because it's, it's the way things go. You know, it's like right now, right now, like right now in, in Asia, there's a lot of people that are giving second class sit at like not treated as people.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Bro, dude, there are children. They're children working for like nickels building our iPhones right now. And it's like we all of us feel kind of you know about it. But you're fine. You're fine about it. You're fine about it right now until you start thinking about it. When you start thinking about it. I would never say fine.
Starting point is 01:07:07 The point. A lot of things people don't think about exactly. The point that I'm making is like I know it's like I know it's kind of a facetious point where it's like, oh, you don't, you, you can't possibly prove that because there's no way to actually do that. It's like, all right. I'm not trying to sound holier than now. I just really. I think you gravitate towards things and you are not. naturally inclined to kind of tumble down
Starting point is 01:07:28 ideologies that already that already fit with what you are kind of predisposed to believing. Not naturally, but by your environment. So what I mean by that is if you come away, if you watch one of my videos and you're in Tennessee and your grandpappy is, you know, yelling at those damn filthy N-words outside. And then you watch my video
Starting point is 01:07:54 and then you see fucking, I don't know, Black Pigeon speaks in my recommended, you're going to click that, and then you're going to keep going, and you're going to keep going, and you're probably going to be a piece of shit. But I also feel like, and the thing I relate most of this with is the atheist sphere of YouTube in like 2011. Where I remember specifically, I always felt like when I was a fucking child, I remember feeling like something's not right about this. Like there's something really off about religion to me, like even as a fucking, like a child. And so when I found atheist YouTube, I was like, oh my God, like a group of people speaking to the things I already feel and on some and putting it in a way that I could articulate it and understand it. That was a really big deal for me. And I got sucked into it.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And I was really like really into it, probably about as into it as a lot of these people were into my stuff or your stuff or shoe stuff. But the difference is the perspective that was being shared and the perspective that was being shared and the perspective. that I was engaging with is a perspective that I had always had. I don't think you come away. I don't think you're sitting there 15 years old and you love everybody and you don't have a problem with black people and you just don't have a problem with gay people and you don't have a problem with trans people. And then you watch my video and then you go down a rabbit hole and you end up the opposite.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I just, I don't, I have a hard time believing that that's true. I'm sure it's probably, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure it's. An extreme anomaly, an extreme anomaly. It feels so difficult to relate to me. And again, that's not denying the existence of the pipeline. Clearly, it's real. I'm aware of that. Let's see that.
Starting point is 01:09:36 But I do. That's the thing. Can we, can we, yeah, just, and let's put a stamp on it right here. Yeah. We're talking about all this shit. Most people don't know who the fuck Idubs is. Most people don't know who the fuck we are to an extreme lesser extent. Most people are like, this is online shit.
Starting point is 01:09:53 dude go to your fucking grocery store and literally walk up to the first person hey do you know what idubs is what the fuck is that i don't even is that like a phone or something like is that like they're not gonna know what the fuck you're talking about right yeah and i feel like these people and and the egotistical thing was a thing that was thrown out that are like i think these people think they're way bigger than they actually are they think they command so much more influence than they actually do they think that your their audience members their fans only watch them and think that they don't watch a multitude of people. I'm like, what are all of a sudden?
Starting point is 01:10:25 Is everybody being indoctrinated by everybody? How the fuck is that even possible? Yeah, that's another thing about it too, is that it feels really, like, maybe it isn't, like, I know that certain, I know absolutely I doves had like a massive influence. Like, I know that. Like, I know. On this sector of the internet, absolutely. Well, on the sector of the internet, which is.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Not the fucking world. Right, right, right, right. But, like, I mean, it's still, there is an element of, narcissism there that I I don't know if it's real narcissism or perceived narcissistic. It feels narcissistic to assume that you can that you have the influence to do all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Or at least that's what it feels like to me. Can I say this? And it definitely feels narcissistic. Right, right. You know what I mean. But I also want to say it definitely also feels narcissistic to project yourself onto a video
Starting point is 01:11:16 that had nothing to do with you. It's because Icarly's not doing well, bro. So, sometimes don't go by Carly. Yeah, I Carly. She was like, fuck, all right. What's in the drop? You know what I think it is actually? You know what I think actually?
Starting point is 01:11:28 You know what I think it is actually unironically? I'm not even kidding. I think what it is is because she writes for I Carly so I think there's a writer's strike. So she just doesn't have anything to do but sieve kind of. And I feel, I hate that I have to fucking say this again. Don't go over there. Okay. You don't, you're not helping me when you go over.
Starting point is 01:11:50 over there, all right? You're just, you look like an asshole, just leave it alone. The reason I'm talking about this is because I got dragged up into this, okay? I didn't fucking want to talk, I would have gotten the rest of my whole goddamn life without talking about this person ever again, okay? And I plan to do that going forward, quite frankly. This is the last time I'll talk about any of this guy, this fucking nonsense. How fucked up is it that she was so fucking bothered by all the harassment? Yet, look what she fucking does. Did. Imagine, look, and I'm going to be real about this. I hated when the alt-ride was fucking with me. Remember, I'm a black cotton creator. They did not like me at all, especially when I was fucking talking shit about their rallies and all the dumb shit they were doing.
Starting point is 01:12:34 They cut calling me a secret Jew. That's fucking awesome. They were like, anyone that was. I remember seeing comments that were like, he's from New York and look at his nose. Look at his nose. You know what was funny, too? I remember people being like, he's funny. Hmm. Weird.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Like, I remember people being, like, because, like, because even they, even they think that Jews are funny. That's hysteria. That is so good. That was hilarious to me. But I don't know, man. That is so good. No, go on.
Starting point is 01:13:08 That is so, I love that so much. I can see with them with their small brains coming to that conclusion. I never considered that, but you pointed out of like that is. It reminds me of the transvestigators, the people who are like this person, who think everybody's trans or whatever. Yeah, totally. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I made a, I don't know if you guys seen it. I love the movie A Beautiful Mind with Russell Crow. And essentially, I want a remake of a beautiful mind because, like, it's based on a true story of this dude that's, you know, he has schizophrenia. And he thinks that he's being a part of a government project and stuff. He's seeing these things. And he's like a mathematical genius. crazy because there's moments that you find out that aren't real that are insane. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:13:54 It's a great movie. I love the movie. I want that, but modernized to transvestigators. I want there to be like somebody thinking, like, I need you to find all the trans people who are pretending, who are,
Starting point is 01:14:06 that's actually, you know, like, and the motherfuckers like, doing all these math equations and then just going to all, just exclusively women, biological women, be like,
Starting point is 01:14:14 that's trans. And have Russell Crow come back. That's a trans. Dude, there's so many. grabs him and takes them. And like grabbing, where's your balls?
Starting point is 01:14:21 What's your balls? You know, like just trying to like, patting down there. There's nothing. Where'd you take? Where'd you take? Where'd you go wherever I see.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Knocks him out. He's, he's in the, he's in the Maximus fucking armor too. He's just, he's just running around. Like, Sengof fire!
Starting point is 01:14:40 Singo cover! And then just saying all the lines. And it's, I wanted, I wanted just a fever of, I'm going to ask AI to do this. I think that AI can do it. Because I've been
Starting point is 01:14:47 seen some pretty good trailers that people have been asking a adidue and it's the most frightening but satisfying shit I've ever seen. Have you seen the AI Mr. Crabs? We saw it. We all saw it, right? Oh my gosh. I'm gonna make a video. So I've, my content is
Starting point is 01:15:05 I stopped doing commentary. Oh, another thing of when you talk about atoning and all this shit that people want you to do, one thing, this is the last thing is people would say, well, why don't you make content now swatting down the other side of their anger, some people are angry at that. I want to say to me, I don't
Starting point is 01:15:23 expect anybody to do that. I don't give a fuck. If you deep if you dipped out, you dipped out, who gives a shit? You do what you want. You're your own fucking master. Me, I was still making content in the political spirit. That's exactly what I did. Because, and it wasn't to appease anybody. It wasn't to appease anyone. It was literally because
Starting point is 01:15:39 these are the guys that are doing the things now that I was bothered with back then. They're literally obsessing over every little dumb, thing that you can think of. Buzzlight you're a stupid fucking lesbian kid. Go ahead. When Trump lost the election, I made fun of all the people molding about it because I made
Starting point is 01:15:56 fun of all the people molding about the previous one. Thank you. That's really all I, that's really how I thought about it. And I even, I even opened it with these, like, the script is exactly identical. I remember that. That was brilliant. And I felt really smart. It felt really clever on my part.
Starting point is 01:16:11 But like, it's the same exact thing. And then people got upset about it. And it's like, you didn't get offended four years ago. Yeah. What's the problem? What's the problem? You should be able to take... Like, I don't like people who can dish it, but can't take it in that sense.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Oh, my God. Yes. That's the current right, bro. That is the right to it, fucking teeth. There's a guy that used to run my Discord who I respect. I like this dude. But I haven't talked to him in a couple of years or whatever, because I shut down my Discord.
Starting point is 01:16:37 We lost contact. Popped up on my feed on Twitter and I was like, oh, shit, what's up, you know? And then all of a sudden I was like, oh, fuck. This guy's like a fucking Matt Walsh Stan. and this and I was like, what the fuck, dude? How were we homies? And then we lose contact and all of a sudden, and now you're like, you've literally joined the Sith.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Like, what the fuck? That shit bothered me so much. How? When I, when I, when Brianna Taylor died, right? I just tweeted that the fact that everyone is sucking a cop's dick for killing a person within their home is outrageous. And the amount of people, that's when I almost deleted my tour. That was like a moment when I was like, I can't do this.
Starting point is 01:17:15 The amount of people that somehow are in my following that think I'm pro-police law spouting like, well, this person's grandma's like, how are you here? Have you met me? I've never, like, I was born hating the police probably. I came up to woo not liking them. I'm from New York. Do you understand what it's like? And it just is like, how did they find? How did they find us?
Starting point is 01:17:41 I guess we make these dark jokes and they think that like, ha, ha, it's funny. I'm angsty and I'm edgy. And it's like, no, dude. Eat a shotgun barrel. Go put a shotgun barrel down your throat and to the point it touches the bottom of your tummy and then pull the trigger. This was very cathartic for me.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I just got to say. It was really nice. It feels good to insult people that are stupid. I love it. My last few videos before I switched completely to, I'm just focusing on music because I just want to grow my music career. But yeah, it felt good. Absolutely trashing these fucking.
Starting point is 01:18:15 dweeps like the the the the the the the the w not the walking dead fucking but but the gay guys are kissing or whatever the fuck but the last of us and shit and to the point where I made my thumbnail look exactly like those dopes that uh one guy that I really respect who was actually around in the atheist uh 20 twin a 2010 um dark matter 25 25 he thought that that I was a part of that and I was like my job here is done like because I just I did you know the poggers like, oh, they're gay. They're gay, you know, kind of a thing. And I just, I watched some of those videos of those fucking people.
Starting point is 01:18:57 And I'm like, I can't believe these, I can't. And look, and I want to say this and then we're moving on. I understand why some of those people are upset because they were adjacent to our content. So those people still exist that are making content right now, manufacturing outrage. They were around when we were around too. They were being more sensible because that was the cool thing to do. But now it's cool to be an extremist piece of shit. So now they're going in that direction.
Starting point is 01:19:24 And I understand why they're just mad. Just anyone adjacent to it, they're mad at those fucking people. Fair enough. You don't have to like me or Chris or anybody and stuff. But we're just doing what we're doing. We ain't fucking hurting anybody, especially not intentionally. So fuck off. That's what I say.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Eat my balls. Oh, moving on. So obviously we've got to get a question. I've been meaning to do this for a minute. So there's this dude that's been, he's been making some, because my lazy ass hasn't been doing it, but he's making clips for us on Twitter for like, say, highlights and shit for the podcast. I just been wanting to give a shout out to this guy, this piece of shit named Shamy McDushbag
Starting point is 01:20:06 that's just been clipping some stuff. I just want to say that. I appreciate that, like, took it upon himself to just like, hey, help out the podcast. I think that's really fucking cool. And, you know, this bitch-ass-nick deserves a little bit of a shout-out. And so, I appreciate your brother. Go die in a fire.
Starting point is 01:20:25 All right. So we want to have some questions? Huh? Are we ready? Absolutely. Let's go. First one comes from Francesco Ramsey. Don't go over there, please.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I hate that I have to say this. It doesn't matter. You have to say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's fucking annoying. Let's see, let's see, let's see Oh man, there's so many Nicky Zigggy wrote in
Starting point is 01:20:52 It's like, Chris no like long Q So me keep short This is racism, Nicky Zippy Sounds racist This is an offensive way to speak Worse first date local Worst first date locale Mini golf, karaoke
Starting point is 01:21:08 Any bad first date stories? K-bye Ooh, you said karaoke I had her, ooh, yeah Oh my God You had a bad karaoke date? So the karaoke wasn't bad But I
Starting point is 01:21:22 There was a girl in high school That I guess I didn't realize That she had a crush on me in high school Because I was very just I didn't give a fuck I would sleep in my English class And stuff and whatever I would talk to every once in a while
Starting point is 01:21:33 And bugger And then so we reconnected Way outside of high school You know She's like blah blah blah cool We started hanging out Cool as fuck man But I guess
Starting point is 01:21:43 She had some problems in her life. We started drinking the, you know, the sake or the soju, sorry, the soju, and doing some karaoke and she just kind of like, I don't know, dude. She had a, yeah, she kind of,
Starting point is 01:21:59 and then she was like, well, I'm sorry, I'm getting the timeline a little bit mixed up. Before she went nuts, she was, this is a, you know, there were booths, but there's still people walking by. She was trying to like, she wanted a bang in the box. And I'm like looking,
Starting point is 01:22:13 is there like cameras? I'm like, hey, yo, I don't want to like smashing this. It's like people are walking by the staff. You got to do it.
Starting point is 01:22:22 We got to do it. I mean, I did it, of course. It was fucking, but it was the, it was awful. It was awful.
Starting point is 01:22:30 You're fucking scum lord. It was fucking. I did it. It was awful. After all that shit, um, you know, the vibe was just kind of weird because I,
Starting point is 01:22:38 I, I wasn't like so into it. And that's when later, like, I don't know how much later, because it was a little bit of a blur of the night, but whatever problems she did have, they just unleashed and then just, just crying profusely about some shit. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? What is wrong?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Are you okay? So the point where she just, she boned out. And I'm like, we took an Uber or some shit. I'm like, yo, you can't just walk home. I think she lived like a couple miles down the road or something. But you can't just, what the fuck's happening? She fucking left. And I was like, this is the crazy shit ever.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I got an explanation way later. It's just, it's just one of those things when some people are having a lot of problem, family problems, work problems. And it just kind of like the alcohol gave her the courage to release all that shit. And I happened to be there to catch all of it. I would have told her shut the fuck up, bro. I would have let you shut up, bitch. Now, to be fair, we're still cool. She's married.
Starting point is 01:23:38 She's got another kid. And she's doing well. but like at the time she was not and she did not let me know so that was a fucking disaster tell her shut the fuck up she starts van you bitch shut the fuck up such a stupid ass up bitch I don't get like that fuck I don't care
Starting point is 01:23:56 cut to a clip of Kingston saying I don't understand why people think I'm misogynist I don't no I just I don't care about anybody it has not a do with men or women if I was on a date with a dude and he started like I'm like dude shut the fuck up and finish blowing me right Swin, you know what's going to happen? You know what's going to happen, Sweene?
Starting point is 01:24:14 Someone's going to watch this clip of you, and then immediately they're going to end up on an Andrew Tate video. Exactly what's going to happen. Guess what, dog? The snark tank to a... The snark tank to Redville? To Andrew Tate pipe line.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't care, dude. Like, I've been on a bunch of bad dates. I haven't with several bad dates, but I'm just like... Well, specifically first dates he's asking. Yeah, first date. Like a bad, fucking awful first date. Okay, so my...
Starting point is 01:24:38 I've never had a bad first date. I had multiple. I've had multiple. several. So my first date with a girl, so I've had several tons. So when I first moved to California, I went on a date with a girl. One girl I dated before Lily. I went on a date with her, right? Very cute, very pretty. She's Armenian, but she was from, she's from, is Iran? We went on a date. We were at a party. We were just talking to a party. We ended up going to a party. We were talking to each other, everything like that. And then she brought up that like, she thought I was really cute.
Starting point is 01:25:11 but her parents could never know. Let's go. And I was just like, oh. And I was just like, love it. So I had to sleep with her and I was like, I'm going to go home. That's it. So I got laid and I was like, I was never going to talk to again. And she texted me a few times.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And I was like, bro, I'm sorry. I don't think my grandmother would accept you. And I just like moved her on. It was really petty. I didn't have to tell her that. I didn't have to tell her that. But it just, it just hurts being told that. Because you feel like that's the person.
Starting point is 01:25:39 You feel like a hidden dog, you know? Yeah, yeah. That is a really fucking. insane. That is a I can't even imagine that. Like I've never had that experience. The closest I got actually was like when Alex and I were together and people would like look at us
Starting point is 01:25:52 like because Alex You don't know. So Lily, Lily like Lily like you like a bunch of people you don't notice until you're in that kind of relationship the looks you get. Yeah it's crazy. You don't know you don't notice it. Lily did not know
Starting point is 01:26:07 Lily Lily and thought that Mexican people were the most accepting people because one half her family, her mom, her dad. So, the idea that, let's, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me explain that. That would be true of anybody. That would be true of, like, every single group I've ever seen is been so fucking. She understood that there are racist people, obviously.
Starting point is 01:26:29 And I said there, there are people with big and of views. But she did not know the problematic nature of, of fortunately, people that are Mexican. Did she not interact with any other Mexicans? and their families. So listen, listen, listen, listen. Her dad is from Monrovia and he grew up around a lot of black people. So his perspective towards that is not that at all. He's very except of the people of color.
Starting point is 01:26:54 But I mean, her mom is very nice. She's from Mexico, but she's a very kind person. And all of her family are just kind. They don't give a fuck about that. I get that her immediate family is cool, but I mean,
Starting point is 01:27:06 like adjacent, they never. But what happened was her, she has a huge family. And they're all like very kind people. So they're just all cool. That's awesome. She did not know, except for her granddad.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Her granddad gave me a look. He gave me a look. And he saw me. He was like, she was ignorant to the vibes. No, no, no, no. She was ignorant to the vibes. To the degree. Because you know, when you're not, when you're not in that, you don't know quite the same way.
Starting point is 01:27:28 So what happened is when we were hanging out a lot in, much called a lot in Pasadena. And this place with there's like not nice Pasadena, like going towards Altadena and towards Monrovia and stuff like that. she started noticing looks and then she was like honey did that person give us a strange look and I was like I don't really pay attention to that and you started noticing it way more and then she was like oh no
Starting point is 01:27:55 and I was like honey how did you not know this how did you not like know that she was like because I never dated a black person before you're like one of my first few boyfriends and I was like damn dude well get ready that's crazy and then now she argues and I'm like honey don't argue it's not worth it
Starting point is 01:28:11 It's not worth it. It's not. It's not worth it. I don't know. Yeah, because like my second relationship was, was an interracial one, specifically in that sense. And I remember, I remember being like, I remember just going places and just seeing just the strange. It's really strange.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Like, and this was in like 2011. So like, it's a while ago. So you got to understand. That's true. live in a very, uh, in a very, I grew up in,
Starting point is 01:28:42 I grew up in an open place. We moved to a very, very unopened place. Um, but yeah, that was so crazy. I, I forgot about that in some,
Starting point is 01:28:53 like, well, I, not forget, but like it's, I don't know, it's been so long, but that was a fucking nutty.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Because, because, it's even worse when it's like, I, I don't, I'm not going to purport to assume like what the family thought. I know I know the dad was really cool
Starting point is 01:29:10 about it but like I got you know I got vibes from the mom that it was not necessarily all that cool that I was that I was white
Starting point is 01:29:20 it's very funny for me because of the fact that some of my relatives look like Lily so I was completely dumbfounded I was like what
Starting point is 01:29:29 what's wrong oh my relatives look fucking all over the place like oh I forgot I don't look like you so I feel there's different here. My family looks like...
Starting point is 01:29:39 Mexicans all look the same. They don't come in different colors. They're either white or they look like, they look like they're either a white and they look like Chechens. They don't look like me there. I forgot. I'm from a place with the diversity. My family looks like a modern day
Starting point is 01:29:55 cast for a show that, you know, like it wouldn't pass the pitching stage if that wasn't the cast. The Jamison's are black. That's it. Yeah. Like, people that have my last name are black in my family. Everyone else is not.
Starting point is 01:30:12 And on my dad's side, most of them are black. That's interesting. I've somehow, though, like, I don't know, even with all that, I don't think I've ever, I don't remember necessarily all my family. So I guess there could be one that I don't remember that was so bad that I just deleted out of my memory. But I think I've had bad first dates. I've had, like, awkward endings to- That horrible hookups.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Two really good dates. Like, I remember the first date I had, when I moved out in, moved out to LA, it was a great date, but I was so scared to, like, make any kind of move because I was like, I don't, I, I, I don't feel comfortable making, I don't feel comfortable making the move, quite frankly. Like, I don't.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Even though we had, like, made out at the bar. And, like, all this, all this stuff. I was like, she was like, hey, can I come over and stay at your place? Yeah, it was already set up. I laid there like a fucking mannequin, not doing anything. And we didn't, we just, we stayed at like opposite ends of the bed and we went to sleep and woke up because I was like, I can't, I'm too scared. I don't know what it was. I think it was, it was a, it was two things I think.
Starting point is 01:31:18 It was, I'm living on my own for the first time. So this is really my first adult experience like this. So that's like weird. But also, I don't want, I don't want it to be. I don't want to get in trouble, bro. Exactly. That is, that is, that is the reason why I don't. hug girls when I'm not in a full room of people.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Dude, that shit has molded me into such. That's a bit crazy. That's a bit crazy. Oh, no, it's a bit, it's a bit crazy. I think we actually had this conversation before. I've had to testify for people. How fucking extreme you are about that shit. I've had to testify with people. So that molded me a lot.
Starting point is 01:31:56 It's like, all right. Be careful. I'm only if there's no, like, Chris, to your point, what the fuck, like, if there's no clear signal, then I won't go for it. But if there is, I mean, like, what the. Sometimes I've, you've got to I'm sorry like you got it
Starting point is 01:32:11 I'll pay for everything If y'all are fucking making out And she's like I want to go back to your place You're good No but that's not explicit That was that was the time period that was The time period that's you're being little The time period that that was happening in
Starting point is 01:32:29 That's not explicit enough I remember I remember like we got there And I was like listen I almost feel like I have to put Like a disclaimer it's like listen I'll pay for everything I'm sorry. You've got to make the move. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Like just straight up. Like I'm not, because you have nothing to lose, quite frankly. So what did you need her to be like, let's have sex, Chris? Like, did you need that? Like, Christopher,
Starting point is 01:32:50 I'd be like, are you sure? Yeah. I would ask again. It would be like a, like closing a program when it's not done rendering. It's like,
Starting point is 01:32:58 will you put thy penis in thy pussy? And then you'd be like, you sure, baby. I don't know. I was, I was, I was, sign this, sign this fucking,
Starting point is 01:33:06 understand, man. I was, I was, you're bold, that's why. You're fearless. I'm not fearless. I have, I was, I was disappointed one time when I went on dates. I went on three dates with this girl. She worked at Disneyland. She got me in.
Starting point is 01:33:21 But the thing is, she had this poker face the entire time. So I'm like, I don't get it. Is she just looking for a fucking friend? She was so cold. Even when I try to like get close, you know, try to be like, all right. I'm sending signals that like I'm interested. But she was so like, that was her. I found out in retrospect she was just like frozen that's how she she's not good at even though later on when she's like we we lost contact or whatever she moved back to um up north because she was only here for and then whatever she went back to school she tells me later like oh man like I wish we would have like gotten closer and I'm like well bitch you could have fooled me like fucking what the shit I remember specifically or the classic it happens right all the signal sent then you present your penis and it's
Starting point is 01:34:07 They're like, what's going on? You're like, what? That's never happened to me. It's never happened to me before, but I've heard stories. Listen, I am so... I'm so serious about it. I'm so serious about it, like, sincerely. Like, it is something, like, I remember...
Starting point is 01:34:23 And I might have told the story before, but, like, I won't disclose the who's. But, like, I remember going on a few hangouts with a person. And then that moment on the couch came Where like oh There's clearly a kiss being set up And I'm not even fucking kidding you I sat there still For I think three and a half hours
Starting point is 01:34:51 I'm not doing nothing Like I was like I'm not doing it I was like nope I can't I can't fucking do it I can't Because if I'm read Because I don't I'm not confident that I understand how to read those signals
Starting point is 01:35:04 Not at all Because like the signals that are, and even if it seems obvious, that's kind of where my brain goes like, well, wouldn't everybody think it's obvious? Like wouldn't the people who are in trouble think that the signal is obvious? That's why they did in the first place. And now they're in trouble. Like, no, no, no, no. Freeze. Freeze.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Stop. Stop. You're a smart man. Unfortunately, society, you know, has made it that the man's got to make the move. The man no longer has a, the modern man has no longer have the place in the male society. The modern man is. Men don't know what they need to do, right? That's why we have to save it.
Starting point is 01:35:36 as a top G, bro. A man should be doing what he needs to do. A woman should be there to cook for him. Hey, before we move on, I was looking for this. I want to show you just to lend to the whole Mexican and racism thing. So this is my homie, Hey, Seuss. He went back to Mexico and he texted me, check out my new mask. And I was like, wow, that's pretty fucked up.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Where did you get that? I got it from a Mexican thrift Halloween store. And if you can see it. Yep. Oh, my God. I was at a long time ago. I was at one of Lily's, I was at a Kanye Asada for Lily, right?
Starting point is 01:36:08 And everybody was dance having fun. And all of a sudden there was an image of a clown, but the clown had black paint on his face. And everybody was like laughing and they saw me look at it. And my jaw dropped and Lillian cried because she never understood it was racist. And then she looked at it and was like, oh my God, her uncle was just like, and turned it off and all the kids were like
Starting point is 01:36:38 I was like I was in shock I was like what it's an old video I have that's the shit dude I wish I could find it it's like an old how do you grow up in America how do you grow up in America
Starting point is 01:36:48 and not know that well there because Lillian doesn't you don't know you don't know how you don't once things become something that's involved with you
Starting point is 01:36:58 like she didn't care it was probably like until she realized her kids are probably gonna be near that color have to do with that should a whole different world of understanding stuff opens up to you.
Starting point is 01:37:09 It's just like, oh shit. Like, I never had to worry about my kids being Mexican. Now that they're good, my kids are probably getting Mexican. I'm like, God damn, bro. You got a lot on your plate, bud. I'm going to have to wear a fucking gas mask when I go to New York. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Oh, right, right, right, right. The air quality there is so bad because Canada can't get their fucking shit together. All of our problems is because of other fucking, it's all you people. Fucking Canadians. It is all the people. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:37:36 I love that the air quality in New York is bad, not because it's New York, but because Canada. That's fucking crazy, dude. That is wild. Yeah, we should stop shipping our jobs overseas as well. Fuck those other countries. We should also stop spending so much money
Starting point is 01:37:50 on our stimulus plans on those countries as well. We should also stop giving them jobs. Because, you know, we can't fix ourselves. You know, why don't we close ourselves off the rest of the world for a little bit just of like relocate our funds to America and then eventually go out there and help them. Yeah, they're not bringing their best, you know. When they bring them.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Oh, man. Did I sound like that? Oh, no. Yeah. I'm supposed to fly tomorrow, but like the air quality here is 4.13. Yeah. What that means? Are you going to wait?
Starting point is 01:38:18 I have to, I already got the ticket. And the whole reason I'm going is for something that's happening. Right, right, right, right, right. Like, on this weekend. So, like, I mean, I'm going to go. Bring a gas mask. Yeah. That's funny that you.
Starting point is 01:38:28 That's fucking. Bring one of the, like, bring one of your fallout ones. Apparently spending 20. Apparently just breathing the normal air in New York City right now. Like, and I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's affecting upstate. I would imagine. Probably to a degree. Probably to a degree.
Starting point is 01:38:46 But apparently in New York City right now, if you breathe, if you just breathe the air in New York City for a full 24 hours, it's the equivalent of six cigarettes. Yeah, that's sick. You might as well start smoking then. Yeah, I think I'm going to take. That's sick. Mexican lollipop. That is, is that a Mexican lollipop? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Derek's showing a Wow dude They got no It's crazy They don't even have a reason They don't even have a reason They don't even have black people there really
Starting point is 01:39:15 No no but like they don't And also like I mean They're not The US They don't have that same History Yeah that history
Starting point is 01:39:24 They still have the history Of dark means bad Light means good Because they were conquered by Europe And they gave that to everywhere Yeah, I guess so. All right. You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 01:39:33 You know what's really fucking weird, right? This is a thing, right? It's going to be a long episode, by the way. I don't know if I believe it. I don't get a hundred percent, right? This is going to be a long one because we've got to get to questions. Oh, yeah. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:39:42 I don't understand if I don't know if I believe 100%. But there's tons of, so within South America and places like that, well before there was, you know, slaves being brought over, which people were some of the first Africans being brought to America. There's a lot of statues that depict travelers coming on boats that have black. that have black features. That's not some dumb black people would be like, the first people here were Native American, the Native American said their black people were here first.
Starting point is 01:40:07 That shit, I don't exactly know if I believe 100%, but there's a lot of claims to that ancient, maybe some sort of ancient Africans that are far more advanced, sailed across the Atlantic over to America as well, which is makes some, is possible? It sounds insane. I don't think so. How does it sound so insane, though?
Starting point is 01:40:27 I don't think so. The motherfucker's built pyramids a long time ago. Like, does that sound... First of all, those were North Africans. It's not sub-Saharan Africans. Yeah. No, no. Actually, time out, time out.
Starting point is 01:40:37 A lot of the time of the periods being created, there were subsamara Africans up there as well. They existed there as well. Not largely. They weren't a large minority and they eventually bred out because of obviously the constant invasions of northern Africa. That's why northern Africans don't look black anymore. They look like... They were just called Middle East. But subsamara Africans were very present in the creation of what,
Starting point is 01:40:59 came Egypt. Maybe not the same time of the pyramids. I mean, whatever. But they were there. Isn't that crazy though that might be real? You're getting into conspiracy stuff, but it's, it doesn't matter because it's like, I understand.
Starting point is 01:41:15 What are they doing here? Yeah, it's, it's, I don't know, to me, it's like, just don't do blackface. Like, I don't, you don't, you don't need. It means funny. You don't need, you don't need an alternate history to exist. for it to not be, you know what I mean? It's not an idea that some people may think it's... Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:41:36 It's a weird coincidence. Sorry. I know what you're saying. It's like, oh, it's a possibility of history that we don't know. Like, it's totally fine. Like, to me, it's just like, that's cool. Don't do blackface still, though. Like, it doesn't really change the, like, what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:41:50 But let's be real. That's Shirley Temple at Blackface is funny as fuck. Because her face, she looked guilty. She knew what she was doing was not okay. Shirley Temple and Blackface looks so... We got to move on. Because she's next to a regular black girl, too. And she looks like, Mom and Dad, I don't want to do this.
Starting point is 01:42:09 I don't think this is a good idea even back then. Oh, my God. There's a mole cracker in my soup. Monkeys and rabbits. Oh, no. All right. Next. Next.
Starting point is 01:42:25 You ain't queued up, man. Next. I'm sorry. It's the way the people write. Okay, Dingalow, Rone's like, Good Morning gamers. How did we go from condemning George Lucas and Steven Spielberg for constantly ruining their art with digital enhancements to now being thirsty for that shit every day with games? What do you mean? Like, oh, like digital enhancements?
Starting point is 01:42:45 Yeah, no, I think the same thing even close. No the same thing. I feel like movies, the thing is games are software and software objectively. has improved like across the board. And so like I think there are certain games that, you know, I still prefer, you know, classic, I don't know, the classic Crash Bandicoot games to the remaster. But I prefer the remastered Spiro to the classic Spiros.
Starting point is 01:43:17 And so like I think, I think there's just more that you can do to transform the experience of a game than you can with like a movie. or specifically like It's not even the same ballpark Yeah it's just I don't know Like I think like Resident Evil 4 And Resident Evil 4 and Resident Evil 4 are vastly different experiences I think even though they're the same game
Starting point is 01:43:40 theoretically it's those are wildly different Like I don't know I got different feelings from playing both of those games Like it's very very different things going on I And I don't know I absolutely have no reason to go back and watch like oh sorry sorry
Starting point is 01:43:58 and play like the old school Resident Evil 4 it just they did such a good job with the remake just like with Resident Evil 2 remake and they did such a good job
Starting point is 01:44:07 where I'm like I love this it feels refreshing and it's also familiar which is nice it's cool like you said our eyes understand what those
Starting point is 01:44:17 shitty polygons look like back in the day it doesn't look good unlike when you watch a movie it wasn't that bad. Like if you watch the Toy Story 1 versus Toy Story 4, it's not just leaps and bounds of a major fucking difference. There are differences, obviously. Like, I just, I just wanted, I just did a comparison of Ivatar 1 and 2. Just real quick, I want to see what's the differences. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:44:42 my eyes can barely tell the fucking difference. And that was, fucking, how long ago was that? Yeah, I think, I think because film is an, is an older medium, they've gotten, they've gotten a hang of like, like, you can watch a movie from the 80s and it's still really good. Like, there's really no reason to go back and fuck with it. The 90s as well. Like, I mean, it varies from movie to movie, obviously, because it's in the same way that it varies from game to game as far as, like, quality goes. But, you know, for the most part, you know, there's a new, there's a new Spider-Man
Starting point is 01:45:12 movie coming out this, like, it's literally a new Spider-Man movie out this weekend, as we're speaking. But it doesn't negate, you know, like, you can, you can. still watch the original, like the first live action Spider-Man movies and still be like, oh, those are really good movies. And they don't replace them in the same way, where it's like, I have no fucking reason
Starting point is 01:45:33 to play the original Dead Space again. Like, there's no fucking reason at all. There's no reason. For me, the thing is that's right. And even with remakes and stuff like that, where it's like, you look at something like a Star is born, there's probably a good reason. You could come up with a pretty good reason to watch
Starting point is 01:45:49 the original Starspoint. This is a really good reason to watch the original Ghostbusters over the fucking new the several new ones that they fucking come out with 100% Like there's
Starting point is 01:45:58 I think there's a drastic difference in what they're trying to do is in the sense that like video games in the fucking 90s Look it's a relatively new medium Relatively new design philosophies People didn't know what the fuck They were doing for the most part
Starting point is 01:46:11 They were making really cool shit By the seat of their fucking pants And so Now that we have a better understanding of this technology And a better way of presenting it There's reason to go back And you know
Starting point is 01:46:22 Give some of these things things a bit of a rework and I think I think it's dope you know I do think there's some reasons why you might want to play Resident Evil for again like the original over the new one but I can't think of many personally Dialogue reasons only Yeah and even then it's like
Starting point is 01:46:36 You'd even then purely out of convenience it's like If I could play either of them right now And I had both of them installed I'd play the new one Like 1,000% A thousand percent And like you were saying like what would they do For example like if they The CG I like say we talk about
Starting point is 01:46:53 the Spider-Man, the Sam Ramey ones. Technically, I wouldn't mind if all they did was just enhance the CGI. Everything's exactly the same. It just looks modernized. I don't need it, though. What I mean is if they made it, I would be like, okay, fine, some people are going to buy it. I think it's useless because I think it's good enough. I understand what time period it's in.
Starting point is 01:47:17 It doesn't need to be fucked with. So that's what people had the same arguments when it was like what George Lucas was doing all the shit where it's like, it's good. enough, what are you doing? You're actually, it looks kind of shitty now. You know, it's crazy. You don't need to fuck with it. Like, I stand by the belief. I think I would like for them
Starting point is 01:47:33 to remake Star Wars movies considering how much lore they've added and how much more fleshed out, things could be the better way lightsaber fights could. I would love to see a remake Star Wars, but I know there's no way to be accepted correctly. It would never be accepted right.
Starting point is 01:47:49 No matter how well it was done, even if it was done well, which I doubt it would be done well. You know how that you can accept it if it's just pure CGI. That's the only way it would work. Or animated or something? You did like an animated
Starting point is 01:48:01 something where it's just not live action and so you can actually depict Luke as Luke. Everyone looks the way that they should but just in their animated version. And then people would be like, this is fucking cool. You know, but it's not trying to be the actual original movie. Like Star Wars is such a cool universe.
Starting point is 01:48:19 In the first movie, the first duel with a lightsaber is so stupid. shit ever, of course. It's samurai fighting. It's not, I wouldn't even call it that. They're literally just boring. They're like trusting their penises forward. It's just like, I would love to see it.
Starting point is 01:48:33 I played ghost of Shishima. They're not a samurai fighting. Or Zinsai would fuck them both up. You know what was more entertaining? Did you guys ever play that game? No, I was going to say. Boshito Blade? Bishito Blade.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Like, that was way more entertaining. I know of it. I never played it. That, you want to talk about remakes. I that game as a remake would be phenomenal it would do it's definitely due for one it would be and it's one of those games that people I feel like with their dicks would be hard like holy shit I didn't see this coming
Starting point is 01:49:03 because no one's really asking for it but I feel like it would it would I don't remember who made it so I don't know what made it so I don't know I think it was firm I your guess I I literally have no idea Pashito Blade was developed by Oh, square.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Oh, square? Really? Yeah, Squaresoft. Okay. It was before Square Enix. It was Squarespace. Okay, Square Soft. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:49:29 That makes a lot of sense. But, yeah, that game was really fun and remix. So in those, because the mechanics were a little janky. This would be a really cool. It would be so cool. So when, you know, the question, the original question, it's like, come on, there is a inherent major difference. Where how the mechanics of something work too when you're playing a game versus just watching something film, the vast majority
Starting point is 01:49:53 of movies don't need to be remade. One of my favorite movies of all time is The Warriors. There is absolutely zero reason to remake that movie. Oh yeah, because the Warriors don't have powers and display these insane features and abilities, you know? It's like, no, they don't need to remake that. There are very few movies
Starting point is 01:50:09 that I would argue require remakes, and there are a lot of games that would benefit I would argue actually sincerely that I don't think I've played a remake that didn't have something positive to add over the original. Agreed. Like, at least in the last couple years.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Name all the remakes. Um, why, name all the reels. That's an insane fucking, that's an insane event. You like rock music? Name every rock song. Yeah, I mean, like, I think the, I think Crash Team Racing was fucking awesome. I think they did a great job with that. The fact that, like, the fact that they got the exact gameplay style and they added all the
Starting point is 01:50:46 tracks from Nitro Kart with the same game feel of Crash Team Racing, that's dope as hell. That's like way better than the original Crash Team Racing. I would stand by that. The original or the Crash Bandicoot remasters, I thought were really good, even though I have a soft spot for the way that Crash looks when he's like a bunch of triangles. I really like that.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I think that's great. If I could play that version of the game at 60 frames per second, I'd be really, really happy. Yeah. But still, I can't. So I would rather, yeah, I would rather play the new one. So the Spiro remake was great. The Shadow the Colossus remaster
Starting point is 01:51:20 was, you know, it's the same game, it just looks better. And I would easily rather... Yeah, and I would easily rather play that than the old one because, I mean, it's just the same exact game except it looks better. And the thing is, it's like, with movie remakes, they can't really do that. The best you can get is, like, maybe like a digitally remastered version of a movie.
Starting point is 01:51:39 And that's the best comparison point, because it's like, oh, it's everything that I loved, but it's clearer now and it's better. But, like, when you try and, like, do, like, a total recall or, like, a robocop or, like, You know, you do a remake like that. It's like a big reason why a movie is special is not necessarily... It's almost extends outside of the film itself in the sense that, like,
Starting point is 01:52:04 the reason the original Ghostbusters, for example, is like really, really good is because it's a lightning in a bottle movie. The concept shouldn't work. The actors, like in it are like the perfect actors for the role. Like, it's paste really perfectly. It's a good movie. I like the original Ghostbusters. It's silly.
Starting point is 01:52:19 It's nonsensical. I don't know what the best. big fucking deal is about it, to be quite honest. But I don't know why it became a cultural phenomenon. I think it's honestly just the fact that they were shooting lasers and that looked cool. Yeah. But there's no reason. I think so. In your neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:52:32 But even when they did the sequel, when it was the original guys, that sucked. So like, there's no reason to remake Ghostbusters because you're going to miss everything, you're going to miss pretty much everything good about it. Like, it's all gone.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I would love to test the theory of, of a genuine remake, like an idea that probably that they'll never do. Let's say, you know how they rebooted Mortal Kombat, made that terrible fucking movie with some new guy that no one gave a shit about. I came from the life of me, understand.
Starting point is 01:53:05 No Mortal Kombat fan wanted that movie. They wanted something, maybe, hey, just do a Scorpion arc like you do with the animated shit or something. I wanted them to test, like, okay, let's do a live action, Mortal Kombat, a complete reboot, and we're going to get somebody who looks like Luke Cameron.
Starting point is 01:53:20 We're going to get some of the looks like. Like, and then I want to test it and see how it tests. Because in my mind, I might receive that pretty fucking well to be like, that's cool. Like the choreography is just as cool. It's just as like they just change little things. Like they expand. Like maybe the Lou Kang versus Sub Zero fight, which is literally 30 seconds, they expand that to like a minute or two or something. I would be like, this is fucking cool because it would be on the level of a Resident Evil 4 remake or something.
Starting point is 01:53:48 I want to test it. Maybe I'll watch it and be like, oh, this doesn't work. This is fucking terrible. Never mind. But I'm open to the idea of them trying to do something like that because it frankly hasn't been tried. Like nobody is trying to let's do the exact thing, almost like we're in a groundhogs day except for everything's updated. You know, we're just doing it again. And then, but everything's modernized.
Starting point is 01:54:10 The cinematography is better. Fucking reptile doesn't look like absolute shit, you know, from the 1995 fucking, fucking, yeah. Yeah. looks so fucking bad. In fact, you know what I would argue? You know what I would actually argue? Yeah. Is that the only remakes that are, that should be allowed as far as films go are
Starting point is 01:54:28 remakes of bad movies, which with, with decent premises. Like the idea of like, oh, that movie had a good idea, but it sucked. Let's, let's try and execute it better this time. I don't know what you're doing touching Robocop and Ghostbusters. Like, I don't know what the fuck you're doing. Like, it's insane. Stop it, punk. Those are, those are as.
Starting point is 01:54:47 good as they can be. Leave them. It's super bizarre. Super bizarre. Like nobody asked for it. You're going to make a better the thing than the thing. Are you, you think,
Starting point is 01:55:01 you really think so. Yeah, it's bizarre. The thing is insane. And by the way, Keith David, I think, is in the thing,
Starting point is 01:55:07 which is crazy. Which is crazy. Yeah. He survives again, too. Yeah, but, yeah, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:55:16 Keith David, man. Keith, motherfucking David. Like, what's the worst movie? What's the worst movie you've seen that you, what's the worst movie? Hmm, fuck, that's the hard question. I want to see a good version of the room. Like, somehow that movie is a good movie.
Starting point is 01:55:29 That's funny. I don't know how that would work at all because the only reason it would be. Like, what kind of movie would it be? That's what I mean. It's like, that would be amazing to see. Or like cat in the hat. Let's get, let's see, let's see how cat in the hat. That movie's not bad though.
Starting point is 01:55:42 No, but it's, it's not good. That's it. I like that question, what is the worst? Or the last mimsy, but a good, the last mimsy. Fucking Sothora,
Starting point is 01:55:55 or whatever. Or bridge the terribithia. But it's good. I don't know, man. I don't know. There's only got two hours. We got to blaze through this.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Oh, yeah. We're not blazing through this. You guys, we got to get through this. How about that? Yeah, let's go,
Starting point is 01:56:11 let's go. Let's go. All right, let's see. A level one cleric wrote in. He says, greetings heathens. What is the cringiest thing you've done? I, for one, had a fedora phase, and I'm eternally grateful that no photos survived
Starting point is 01:56:25 to depict that period of my life. You got to have photos, man. Damn. I had a skinny jeans phase. I can say something. I'm a skinny jeans. I can say something. It's sad what cringed lords did the fedora,
Starting point is 01:56:39 because it's kind of a nice-looking hat. It's nice when you dress appropriately. that's what I mean it's like you can't just wear it like a fucking freak to school but like Michael Jackson with a fedora it's like it's a fucking iconic look it's fucking it's a great hat it's crazy to me the sweater with the sweat with the sweat with the jeans jacket and a red shirt under that's the combo for the fucking ad idiot the jackass fucking combo black fedora blue jeans of jean vest red shirt and a fucking katana
Starting point is 01:57:07 and a katana by the side like I stand by that it's a nice looking hat and it's like It's really sad. It's, it's, it's, you know what it is? I feel like it's kind of like the, well, this is, it's not exactly analogous because I don't think the Hitler mustache is particularly good looking, but, you know what I mean how like, yeah, the chaplain. Like, right, right. That's not the chaplain.
Starting point is 01:57:28 That's fair. But like, to be, it's like, that's, I mean, it's, it's not a good mustache to be fair, but it's not like, I don't think the mustache itself deserves the situation it got, you know? So true. Like, that's pretty sad for the mustache. And I feel very sad for the mustache. And I feel very similarly for the fedora. Like, oh, my God, that poor fucking hat.
Starting point is 01:57:47 It went from Michael Jackson to, like, a fat atheist with, like, questionable views of consent. Like, that's fucking wild. Hey, you remember Michael Jordan trying to bring... You remember Michael Jordan trying to bring back the Hitler stash? Do you guys remember that? He had it for a bit. There's like a Haynes commercial where he's in a plane and shit, and he's just rocking that shit. People are like, yo.
Starting point is 01:58:12 So what? I know, don't get me wrong I fucking loved it I was like Let's go Whatever I shave Whenever I shave You see I don't have
Starting point is 01:58:22 I don't have For some reason I barely have hair like right here I don't know why That's one of the last parts To grow in On a male's Goatee
Starting point is 01:58:29 That it's so thin right there I don't really have this But every time I do have it I do shave it down For like a few moments I'm like Yeah kind of see how it is Well why don't those
Starting point is 01:58:36 Those pictures should exist So you can share amongst your peers And I start speaking German into the fucking thing And I'm like all right That's enough I'm Rumsstein or some shit I start singing Erica
Starting point is 01:58:47 And I'm like, oh, I got to stop Oh God Yeah, enough of that shit It's a good song, man Cringe, so he'd This guy had the fedora phase I feel like I don't know man
Starting point is 01:58:59 I just remember looking Really stupid Because for a long time I couldn't grow in your facial hair at all So I just looked like a dumb baby And I would wear a lot of like big beanie Like hanging off my head
Starting point is 01:59:11 I just There's pictures of me probably a couple years outside of high school where I'm like, I look so fucking stupid. But it wasn't like a particular phase or anything. I just think that I just didn't, I looked soft. And I hated that. I hated that. I'm like, okay, at least I have some sort of facial hair, I guess.
Starting point is 01:59:34 But I was also, yeah, I wasn't nearly as muscular around that time either. I looked soft. That was a soft motherfucker, dude. Those babies. What about you? What about you, Chris? I had skinny jeans, man. I had a lot of skinny jeans.
Starting point is 01:59:46 I love skinny jeans, dude. Oh, but I also have, I also have big thighs. I like to show them off, you know? I have, I have big thighs, too. I'm a big creature in general. So the skinny jeans were a problem for me because they'd get on. I'd have to, when if you wanted to be sweaty, I'd have to literally peel them off of me. You got to, you got, you got, you got, you're, man, mine are elastic.
Starting point is 02:00:04 They've always been, like, move fucking moving them and shit, you know? When I take them off, it would sound like somebody's tearing off a part of drywall. It'd be insane. So stupid. Like someone's open a yogurt. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if there's any single, like I
Starting point is 02:00:24 am very, very cognizant of my entire life up until this point because you know, I've been on YouTube for so long that I can go back to 2007 and see what the stuff that I was saying. So like I'm very cognizant of the fact that like everything is, you are living right now
Starting point is 02:00:41 in an era of pre-realization cringe. Like that's where you exist. At all times. At all times. In five years you will look back to that exact moment, to this exact moment. You don't think anything is cringe about it, but it will be cringe in the future. Like it will.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Like, I don't know why or how, but it is. It always is true. And I think I'm very, very cognizant of it because I have this unique kind of like almost timeline where I can visibly why. my mannerisms and the way that I interact. It's not like, it's not like pictures on Facebook where it's like, oh, well, I have my pictures from all the way from, you know, 2006 to now.
Starting point is 02:01:21 And it's like, it's different, man. It's different to have videos and videos of you, like, stating your opinion. Like, there are videos of me, like, reviewing video games when I was like, fucking 11. I don't know, I don't know what the fuck I was talking about. I look at it. I'm like, you're a fucking idiot. You don't know anything about this at all. You're just trying to sound.
Starting point is 02:01:40 You're just trying to sound. like you know what you're talking about by talking about like fucking engines or you don't know what an engine is. I barely kind of understand what an engine is now. Like I sort of get it. Like the Cowboys? I feel that. I feel that. It's this you have the same
Starting point is 02:01:56 you have the same contempt for like the way that people do when they hear kids talking when they're playing a like when they're stream when they're playing yeah multiplayer. They start saying something maybe even trying to add to the strategy. Shut the fuck up. You don't shit.
Starting point is 02:02:12 A little punk lady. It's so insane how instantly mad you get at toddlers trying to give you advice. It's like, hey, shut your stupid little ass. You're dumb and small. It is really, it is really immediate. You don't know. It is really.
Starting point is 02:02:27 It might be saying something good. And you're just like, you're fucking bitch ass up. Shut your stupid little mouth. You're a stupid little human. Don't let anything get you down. It's like, you understand I saw 9-11. You don't even know what fear is yet Imagine being really scared
Starting point is 02:02:46 To your mom not being there That's what I was Yeah Imagine not Imagine Like you can't even imagine Feeling like a plane might hit you And have that be like a genuine fear
Starting point is 02:02:59 For like a solid day and a half Like you don't know what that's like Shut the fuck up kid God damn I never had that either really And I was there as well Dude I was concerned I was really fucking
Starting point is 02:03:08 I was because I thought it was Because I thought it was a movie at first Because I saw it online Or not online I saw it on the TV and I was like This can't be real That looks like a fucking action movie Like there's no way this is fucking real
Starting point is 02:03:20 And it is And then they were like making calls About how like we don't know how many more there We don't know if there's gonna be more Or not it's like holy fuck It's crazy I remember that Jason Bourne didn't stop that one though Jason born
Starting point is 02:03:32 Yeah it was his cousin His cousin was on the job It was adjacent born And he's just sort of Adjacent born He's a jason born He's adjacent to Jason born. Next question, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, it's adjacent born. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. Oh, that's a classic. I got reminded by it because my gym was playing the born identity in that cinema room. I was thinking about Jesus Christ. You saw the born identity.
Starting point is 02:04:06 You saw the born identity playing in your gym and you were like, Jesus. Christ, it's Jason. It's Jason by literally. Oh, it's so classic. Yeah. Oh, man. All right. Uh, Staingo Jenkins wrote in. He says, what's popping? I know you guys are pretty internet poison, but do you all have any favorite national slash state parks? Wildlife areas count. Thanks. P.S. It's pronounced Staingo Jenkins. I think I got that right, my friend. Um, what is my national park? Um, I don't really fuck with national parks, unfortunately. I haven't been that many. I've been to a few in New York. Yeah. I guess, I guess Claremont Park, not Cremont or Cremont or Cremont Park in the Browns. Place is fire.
Starting point is 02:04:49 It's a huge open area where everybody bring their kidneys and run around and play football and tag and shit. I mean, it's, I know, I've been to places that are prettier and, like, like, I spent like a week in, in Portland, Oregon. And I remember that being like a really, really nice place in general. the whole area feels like a park. But, I mean, the only real answer to that that I would have is Central Park, because it's where I spent the most time. As far as, like, as far as like a National Park goes. Like, I haven't really been to many out here, if any.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Like, I do want to go to, I do want to go to Joshua Tree. Oh, I've been to Joshua Tree. Never mind. I haven't, I haven't been to Joshua Tree. I would like to. But, you know, I only have experience with Central Park, and I love film. and doing dumb shit in Central Park.
Starting point is 02:05:40 But that's it. I love to hit all national parks. I haven't really been to any that I can remember. But I will say there's this cool park in the center of South Central L.A. Where, you know, it's just all a bunch of just poison. And then this nice little beacon of hope, I guess, called Kenneth Hahn, where it was pretty nice, you know, lots of ponds. and stuff and they kept it up pretty well
Starting point is 02:06:08 and some hiking trails and shit in the center of it all so it was kind of cool to that just go there I would sometimes ride my bike there during the pandemic I would always run over there and it's just funny just because if you've been
Starting point is 02:06:23 to L.A. Some of the some of the famous South Central parts we were like damn this shit because like you always got to think you always got to think about this no city has ever started off looking this way so you got to think like everything
Starting point is 02:06:37 at one point look brand new and clean and he's like damn once upon the time every place was nice place what happened it's it's good it's there's just heaps of trash everywhere and insane like insane white people
Starting point is 02:06:53 walking amongst like just a bunch of black folk and I'm always like afraid of those guys the guys the white they're in their shirts off and I'm like oh shit like don't even get near that guy because he's just like unafraid of anything and just in the most like, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:07:09 harsh living conditions. He's absorbed every trash heap, so he's completely immune to anything. And I'm like, yo. He can't be armed, bro. He's a magic weapon to kill him. He's got a thin layer of armor, like, that you can't perceive.
Starting point is 02:07:23 Legit. But yeah, Kenneth Hahn's dope. I want to go, I want to go to all those yellowstone. I'm afraid if I go to Yellowstone, it's going to, like, erupt as soon as I go. That's the day erupts the day, you're dumbass there. You did this, Derek. That's an awesome fear to have.
Starting point is 02:07:37 that. It's like, I don't want to go to Yellowstone on the off chance. It's the day. Hey, no joke. I have a little of a small fear about Hawaii about that too. I'm a go to Hawaii. And the one time I go, the fucking, what are their main volcanoes around? One of the main islands blows up. Not even a volcano. The island blows up. I don't have a fear of, I don't have a fear of volcanoes on Hawaii, but I do have a fear is being on an island when a random tsunami hits. And so, like, I feel like, I would, I would end up, and by the way, I get, I get, proven right constantly. When we moved to New York,
Starting point is 02:08:11 or not, when we moved to Burbank and the mountains were on fire, I was like, God damn, what a day for this to happen. And even right now, I'm flying to New York, first time I've flown to New York since last year, and it's, the air is fucked.
Starting point is 02:08:25 It's you, bro. It's you. Yeah, it is me. And that's why, like, everybody's like, why everybody's like, why don't you come out? It's like, you don't understand. I'm sure you'll have a great time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:37 You have a great time. I'll hate it because something's going to happen that specifically affects me and probably a lot of people. So, like, I don't want to go to Hawaii because I know it. I know it. We're going to be like, let's go July 7th to Hawaii. Let's do it. Let's all. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:54 We'll buy our tickets now. We'll plan. People will take off from their jobs or whatever. It's like, yeah, sick. July 7th, we'll go to fucking Hawaii. July 5th rolls around. And then it starts, weather's a little weird. It's like, all right, no big deal.
Starting point is 02:09:09 And then we land and then like fucking stage 10,000 hurricane immediately, like out of nowhere. Like it would just happen. It would just have because it's like, you're here. Now you're here. You're the instigator. We need to. We got you. I am the main character of the universe and nothing can happen without me.
Starting point is 02:09:25 There's a hurricane the size of Europe. It's a hurricane. It's a hurricane the size of me. The size of me, but it's real strong and small. And it's going around and it's looking for me. And I'm going to have to hide from this fucking tiny hurricane. And everyone else is going to be having a great time except me. It's looking for you.
Starting point is 02:09:46 You guys are being stalked by hurricanes? A tiny hurricane. What's the next question? All right. Great ghost rode in. No, it's not last one. We got at least two more. Great ghost.
Starting point is 02:10:01 We got to. We got to. We got to make up. What is it? Great ghost. What's up? lesbian, gay, and bisexual. Chris has talked about wanting to do a documentary-style video before the pandemic.
Starting point is 02:10:13 If you were given a large budget, what documentary would you all want to do together as the Stark Tank? Oh, man. You guys know my answer. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, you guys, Ethan Ralph documentary. That's what I want to do. Quick math. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Quick maths. Quick math. Quick math. Ethan Ralph. The Star Tank documentary. I would love that so much. I've, all right, I've come the man questioned, Rodin. He said, you get the power to change one person's race.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Who do you use this power on? Ooh. You only have it, you only have it once. You can only use it once. Hmm. Who's, I, I, I would, I would, I would, I would turn Jay Z. White. This is to see what he looks like. Like, what the fuck he looks like.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Like, he still has the same. Features are just like Straight up Like albino Jay Z or are we talking like Straight up European white Because I like Albao JZ
Starting point is 02:11:20 He'd be pretty funny actually He's all blonde and shit I would make Kingston Swedish Why would you do that too? Because because it's the own Like what am I going to get out of like I don't know what do?
Starting point is 02:11:35 What am I going to do like make Zendaya Puerto Rican like big fucking deal. Like, that doesn't do anything for me. She might as well be fucking Puerto Rican, man. Yeah. It doesn't, it's not going to do anything for me. Like, turning some random celebrity that I don't know into some other race. It's like, that'll be fun for everybody for like, maybe like a week.
Starting point is 02:11:52 Knowing the shit that happens now, like on a weekly basis, people will forget, oh, Jay-Z's white? Weird. For three days, people will meme about it. And then, like, it'll be like, it'll be gone. Like, no one will, everybody will be like, oh, yeah, that's white JZ. I want two things to have. Like everybody knows.
Starting point is 02:12:06 I would make kicks in Swedish because I know he would. you would have the hardest time dealing with it, and I, and I would get to see it every week. Every week when we do the show. Because it's something. I get something out of it. Like, you'll be fine eventually. You'll probably even learn. I think what's scary about it is what's, and what scares you about it is like, you'll
Starting point is 02:12:22 probably learn to like it. You'll be like, no, that's makes it the most terrifying. I don't want to be a blonde hair blue white person. That made me so mad. The way I speak as a blonde hair, blue white person, I would get killed. Take your Spotify. and it's all changed to like Aaron Carter and
Starting point is 02:12:41 And Abba It's all Abo and shit Aaron Carter? That there shouldn't mean Bon Jovi Yeah I just want Abba Nothing but Abba
Starting point is 02:12:49 Yeah Res and peace Jesse McCartney or whatever Um Oh That was me That's crazy that that was me bro That wasn't you That was Charlie
Starting point is 02:12:59 I think I said it And Charlie heard me say And he said it too That's funny Because I said it really loud and I think Charlie heard me saying he repeated it. Why did you say rest in peace Jesse McCartney? Because I thought he died.
Starting point is 02:13:12 It was Eric Carter. But I thought he died. They are kind of the same. Wait, Eric Carter's dead? Yeah, Eric Carter died. Wait, he actually died? Yes. Yeah, you didn't know that?
Starting point is 02:13:22 I forgot. I thought something happened. I forgot actually. No, him and he died. He died on the same day as Dr. Drew. No, he didn't. Shut the fuck up. He's actually dead, though.
Starting point is 02:13:34 He's actually fucking dead. I remember, I forgot that, that really? I thought he had like something crazy happen, but I thought, um, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Wow, that was late last year. Holy shit. Do you know what's happening with Jamie Fox, by the way?
Starting point is 02:13:47 Like, what the fuck is going on? Oh, he had a fucking stroke. Is he all right? Like, what's, um, I don't actually don't know if he's, uh, if he's going to make a full recovery. I didn't, uh, get any information. But yeah, that's crazy. Did you ever see that video of, did you ever see that video of J.V. Fox ruining that guy's
Starting point is 02:14:06 that comedian's life on stage at like a roast No what do you Dude I wish I could remember exactly Let me look at it There's a There's a video of Jamie Fox Like I guess he's like at this roast
Starting point is 02:14:22 I don't remember who the roast is for But like some comedian goes up And he's bombing on stage And Jamie Fox as one of the comedians Is heckling him Like he's heckling this dude And he's It's
Starting point is 02:14:35 real bad. Like, it's one of the most cruel things I've ever seen. Like, it's uncomfortable to watch.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Like, because it's like, Navy Fox is really fucking funny. Yeah, it's, it is, like, he's objectively
Starting point is 02:14:48 saving the set. Like, he's doing, he's doing what he's supposed to do. He's making a really bad set funny. But it's also so mean.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Like, it's at the expense of someone else. It's at the expense of somebody who's like in, in such a bad spot. And it's, it's really fucking, it's good. It's a good video.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Oh, fucking hell, dude. People are... What? Wow, how funny is this article? Dr. Drew's mentioned in this article. How funny is this? So, first of all, apparently he's learning to walk again, so it was really bad.
Starting point is 02:15:24 Wow, Jesus. And then apparently also, he's become the figurehead of the anti-vax movement because people are saying, oh, it was COVID-related. So they're using him. They're propping him. See what happened? Never. Never. Not once.
Starting point is 02:15:39 You know, they were using videos of people, like, having seizures in, like, 2012 as examples of, like, why the COVID vaccine is fucking... It's... So beautiful, man. I'm... I'm so tired. So... I like how it's...
Starting point is 02:15:53 I like who it's the vaccines. I like how it's the vaccines and not the fact that there's, like, microplastic in our rain. Yeah, that we're all... Yeah, we're constantly breathing in plastic. Yeah, they're constantly breathing. I like how it's like, oh, yeah, the air quality... quality in New York is the quality, like right now is the quality of like fucking six cigarettes. But
Starting point is 02:16:08 you know, it's probably the vaccine. It's probably the vaccine. Jesus Christ. Everything from the end of time is going to be the vaccine now. If you got into a car crash, it's because your bones were weakened to the point where you now were susceptible to dying in a car crash because the vaccine
Starting point is 02:16:24 stole fucking health from your bones or something. Everything is going to be vaccine shit. I'm at the point where I think I would actually just like jump somebody in public if if they were blaming something on the vaccine. If I heard, I'm kind of at that point where I just, I'll closeline them,
Starting point is 02:16:41 just a straight lariat. Some people got put your hands on you know. I'm like, dude, I'm done. I'm done. I don't want to hear it anymore. I don't, I don't feel that, but I do feel a sense of like, it isn't rage.
Starting point is 02:16:52 The next time, the next time you, like if I see you bumping off a car and hitting a lamppost and like wailing on the ground and like, oh, ah, ah, are going to be like, why didn't you get vaccinated, idiot. Like, because it makes about as much sense to me.
Starting point is 02:17:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, somebody shot your kneecap off and now you're crippled for life. Why didn't you get the vaccine, idiot? You dumb bitch. It's so sad. It's a sad place. We'll go one more.
Starting point is 02:17:24 I was crying. One moan. Because I was just thinking of someone getting hit by a car for some reason. Yeah, I like how that makes you laugh. You're such a fucking direct. ranged person. I'm not the range, bro. That's funny. I missed a live leak. I miss live leak. What the fuck is it?
Starting point is 02:17:43 Average Clinton Energy. Average Clinton Energy wrote in. He says, who are each of your favorite content creators who cover for Chris video games for Derek music and for Kingston comic books? It's actually a good question. Oh, easy. What's great is comic explained? Comics explained for comics? Yeah, Derek, do you watch music? Yeah, I do. Um, yeah, yeah, I do. Um, there's, there's a lot. There's a producer named Rick Biotto.
Starting point is 02:18:06 This guy's a fucking genius. Like, perfect pitch, genius guy. You'll learn so much just by watching his videos because he's like, he knows too much. It kind of upsets me how much he knows. Like, he'll hear, and he automatically knows exactly what note it is. Oh, it's this, this, this, Suss 7 over this. And I'm like, what the fuck even is that? I barely know A, G, something, D or something.
Starting point is 02:18:29 You know what I'm saying? Like, A, G, you. A something, there's an E somewhere. I think there might be a seven in a major. No, but this guy's just, he's brilliant. I hate his sideburns. He looks fucking stupid. He has sideburns.
Starting point is 02:18:43 Nobody should have sideburns anymore. But other than that, you know, guys legit. Yeah. What about you, Chris? Yeah. Don't have a cyberd anymore. I, uh, it should be allowed. Yeah, so, I mean, video, like, I think, um,
Starting point is 02:19:00 I watch Digital Foundry a lot because I just think that stuff's kind of like soothing and weirdly interesting, but I think I think SkillUp is the person that I watch the most. He posts a lot. He has generally respectable takes.
Starting point is 02:19:12 He's a destiny guy that helps. He's got really good reviews on Destiny stuff that I most agree with. Sometimes I don't. But, like, I like him. I've spoken with him a couple times. He's very chill.
Starting point is 02:19:25 And you guys, I get to check the door a quick. Someone keeps fucking... Someone keeps doing... I'll be right back. I'll be right back. Yeah, go get it. But yeah, I think.
Starting point is 02:19:33 I think that's it. There's somebody, somebody asked a question specifically for, oh, this is last one for both of us. Okay, what's up? She sells seashells by the seashore, and he sells seashore,
Starting point is 02:19:49 and he sells sea shels on the sheep floor, wrote in, he says, hello, gents, quick question. Chris and Sween are both destiny vets like me. What class is superior, and why is Hunter not it? Stupid, Chris. The Hunter is superior class.
Starting point is 02:20:06 It's the best. Unfortunately, the warlock is the best class. I hate warlocks, but they're playing on fucking easy mode, dude. They got a heel button. They got to fucking... They are the best because it's the easiest. I think the best class is Hunter, but I think the easiest class to use the Titan.
Starting point is 02:20:26 I think the Warlock has the most weird shit in it. I don't think the Titans the easiest to use. I think it is. I think the Titan is the most intuitive in the sense that... I think honestly, the only hard thing about the warlock is that fucking jump. That jump is so awkward, but the second you get past the jump,
Starting point is 02:20:42 everything about that class is like overpowered as hell. Like you steal health from enemies, you got a fucking well that keeps you fucking invulnerable. They're pretty much integral. They are integral to like every single like boss encounter ever because you need that radiance. It's and you need those wells. It's, I don't know, like they are the best class
Starting point is 02:21:02 because they are, they've just been given the most to do. but I would say Hunter is the most I don't know Hunter is the easiest for me to use personally because it's the most
Starting point is 02:21:14 it's the most translated from other shooters it's like straight up double jump or like you know straight up you know you're a precision
Starting point is 02:21:22 gun slinger person whatever yeah you roll like that but I think my person but I think it varies based on which one you play like I play
Starting point is 02:21:30 I play a little bit of all of them I'm mostly main hunter I don't play it I don't play any of them anymore like I try I tried to play all of them, but it's just like, I don't have enough time in the day. I don't play Destiny anymore in general right now.
Starting point is 02:21:43 I'm not really playing Destiny right now. No? Nah, I've been more focused on Street Fighter. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm trying to make it to gold, and I feel like I'm going to kill once before I do that, but I'm having fun. Yeah, I got to, uh, I have to...
Starting point is 02:21:59 Don't play ranked on that game. No, I'm not, I don't play Street Fighter online. I play it purely against the computer. I don't care to be. I don't have enough faith. The thing with fighting games is I don't, I've never had a good experience playing online fidelity-wise.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Like I always feel like there's some fucking lag or something that I don't feel in like shooters and other games. And it just, it makes it just not fun to me because I always feel like, fuck, something, I just didn't, it just didn't even care that I did that. But anyway, that's it. We're getting the fuck out of here. Oh, what's ho? Dark's dead.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Derek's gone. So we'll wait silently for him to return. Such a dumb existence. I said we're going to silently wait. I hear you clicking. Stop. I don't think he's coming back. I'm going to read the names. Cut me down.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Three, two, one. The UNSE Pillar of Autum. Tintfoil tyrant, the athletic cup that all the Spider-Men share, putting blackface on my light bulbs. Chris's singular sperm that gapes his urethra every time he comes. I vomit on myself to become a portable slip and slide. Can you, the prospect of someone fleeing from the police and like seeing a downhill slope, deciding to vomit on themselves and then just throw themselves on the ground to slide is amazing. That is an amazing...
Starting point is 02:23:53 That's disgusting. That is beautiful. That is fucking wonderful. Next name. Ew. All right. A naked Dennis Prager, bare knuckle boxing,
Starting point is 02:24:04 an angry panda bear in front of a live studio audience. Florida felon femboy on death row. Derek some white guy. Doc Jenkins and the tism schism. My son just turned three. So I've been wondering, how young is too young to start calling... Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Yeah, no No Not finishing that one Not with Not with the eyes on me now She pick in on my Pippa POSM, yes, that's my real name I'm
Starting point is 02:24:32 Ancioso De Beiras? What the fuck is this? I'm sorry? To get Pronto to his Casa To
Starting point is 02:24:43 Sackarmel La Verga And that's Mammadas We're not fluent here, right? Yeah, I've never even heard You're wasting your time
Starting point is 02:24:54 Right My girlfriend translates most things for me I can speak basic conversational Spanish That's it Let me let me Let me translate this real quick Oh God They almost got you, huh?
Starting point is 02:25:14 I'm anxious It's close It's close It says I'm anxious You should get home soon To get my dick out and give me some blow jobs So I explains why I don't know it Because I learned
Starting point is 02:25:26 Spanish from my family Who was certainly not Discussing blow jobs I walked on a weird time Yeah piss bed Domo Nation average clip energy Jared from Subway has a cameo in Sharknato 2 That's awesome
Starting point is 02:25:42 Also he's a cameo in a Superman comic Yeah Wait who Jared Fogel has a cameo in Superman Yeah it's a Justice League comic He's in it Did you see the change.org to make him the spokesperson again? It's like legit.
Starting point is 02:25:59 Like nobody's like just struck it down or anything. It's cancel culture. It's cancel culture. Why are you fucking, what's wrong? If you. James Gunn made offensive tweets and you rehired him. Why did you fire Jared Fogle for simply being a pedophile once for a long time, many times? Amen.
Starting point is 02:26:19 Preach. Whoa. there's a movie about Jared There's a movie about Jared that just came out Like recently Like in the last week Yeah there's like I want to watch it
Starting point is 02:26:30 Like yeah Like a movie or documentary I think it's a documentary But it's a documentary But I'm gonna do a double feature tonight I'm gonna see across the Spiderverse And then Jared Yeah that's insane
Starting point is 02:26:43 That's insane Now should I start with Jared? Yeah probably Yeah probably Yeah His name is Jared He sings a blue song
Starting point is 02:27:00 I remember a big I remember a popular A popular joke A popular joke with me and my friends at the time Was that he would He lost all the weight chasing kids Star Coffee His name is Jared
Starting point is 02:27:15 Fuck Swin And Reagan for president 2024? No. Absolutely not yet. I want no part of that world, quite frankly. Not, not yet. It's a TV series. Did he fucking Cornel West fucking running for president? Yeah, what the fuck, dude? And he's running with like, he's like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:27:38 The people's party or some bullshit or something? What he was saying? Third parties don't work. I wish third party worked. I wish they did, but they don't. They don't. Unfortunately not. It's sad. They should. It just draws votes away from the main parties because we were too stupid to fucking actually do with third party. It's fucking nuts.
Starting point is 02:28:00 But anyway, let's start coffee, Sweden, Reg up for president's 25. Lindsay Graham's little ladybugs. I'm white, but my dad left. Do I get a pass now? Now suing Sween, because apparently the pass isn't valid in Brooklyn. Transfem gremlin. Ken Logan Paul abandoned a million pigs. my sexual awakening was the quirky goth from NCIS and now my taste in women is ruined yush the angelic dungeon master who would like to congratulate you for saving the microwave baby
Starting point is 02:28:28 by shoving the horse off the bridge nice did you end the last episode with the with the horse i did i didn't put the horse in um okay good um yeah i actually i was going to but then i was just like this is this is somebody pushed you in a lake yeah yeah i got pushed into a lake and i got stiff and I couldn't I couldn't do anything I just fell in yeah sigh sigh from gangnam style claims we are not unarmed Korea got a bomb I know that one
Starting point is 02:28:58 could become a target that's Opa god damn style C S uh I think CS 188 or whatever he's a he's a YouTube kind of creator fucking brilliant Craig the Canadian it's your boy Shawnee D Southern Sweet Tea Matt Walsh is a hero of our time Steve Bivingank for Live indie butter knife on YouTube.com what is with these homies
Starting point is 02:29:16 dissing my girl anal rage party 3x0 Finding out Chris Chan's Sonitude necklace works the same way as Thor's hammer Slurping stroken smoking joking
Starting point is 02:29:25 emoticons going like this Morning Owlet Sheenit Tai Drip MH Lord of Drip Nancy Pelosi Killing a Palestinian with a massive tits
Starting point is 02:29:36 Obi won't you blow me Sween you have something between your teeth Kremlin to Gremlin Can't stop Addicted to this Big Bick
Starting point is 02:29:43 Like the pen Big Big Abby Something funny in Topical gay Sunday voice chocolate queer gagging is all you can hear it's so bad it's not good listen Yeah I know you I know you I know you I know this because he no pain Chocolate gay
Starting point is 02:30:03 I love guys and my ass is a gaped I am gay I am gay I like when men Fuck it start to fuck my face I am gay Penis in my mouth is really great anis pain
Starting point is 02:30:21 You know what's funny about the gay I was thinking about this kind of like when we were writing the the extra ammo there's an extra ammo episode of us writing like a like a gay sex anthem for Under the Sea but in Little Mermaid
Starting point is 02:30:36 and I was thinking about it and it's funny because I was thinking like why is it so funny just because it's gay because would it be would it be funny if it was straight and the real and the reality is like a lot of songs just are that but straight.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Like there's so many songs like, I like the pussy in my face, let me come in that. And like, that's like a lot of the lyrics like sincerely for like a lot of you like fucking blurred lines and shit. Like, so I think the funny I don't know, it's so funny
Starting point is 02:31:08 that that's it. But also, it's funny because there is a sector, there is a subgroup in the gay community that is that. If you Go clubbing and weho. You can find that. Like, one of my homies that grew up with,
Starting point is 02:31:27 he moved to West Hollywood for a reason, and that motherfucker had a good time, you know what I'm saying? So, like, it's kind of, like, funny in that lens where you're kind of just writing a song that's, like, some dude's fucking Saturday night, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Do you ever think, come resurrection? That's his name. I feel gay. Fuck you. The Pippini Brothers Emporium presents the latest in tuck technology sneakovillian. SnicoVision. Good fight, Chris.
Starting point is 02:31:57 Spaceballs, the patron. Having autism is like getting your stats min-maxed. Stupid. It is kind of accurate. It's like, man, you're really good at counting, but you can't keep eye contact, can you? They're really good at remembering things, but you can't remember. I don't have the opposite of autism in the sense that, like, I don't have a high stat in any. thing. I'm just here.
Starting point is 02:32:21 Yeah, you got Lotism? Lottism. That's good. I like that. Ah, Limp biscuits and gravy. John Strickland. I am announcing it right now. Our next parody is F.lers and Paris. Merck's 1889. The absolute dog shit Aquafina song.
Starting point is 02:32:37 Wait, that absolute dog shit song Aquafina sings to wake Ariel up. It's terrible, dog. It's pretty fucking shit. It's terrible. I haven't heard it. It's not. It doesn't even sound like a song, really.
Starting point is 02:32:51 It just said it... Was that Lin-Manuel Miranda? I didn't know what I wrote the song? Yeah, because it sounds like a Lin-Manuel Miranda song. But, like, the thing that confuses me about it is Lin-Manuel Miranda, like, can write good songs. So, like, I don't know what the fuck... I don't know what the hell that song was.
Starting point is 02:33:15 It was just bad. It was bad. It was bad. Those movies are bad. It's bad. It's bad. I hate it. I hate it so much. I hated so much.
Starting point is 02:33:22 The fact that the sit through that movie made me so upset. Is it Lin-Man, who will... Oh, okay. Aquafina wraps a scuttle butt. Who will hold Lin-Manuel Miranda accountable for this? No thing as part of our... Oh, I know you're talking about, okay, I know what you're talking about that. The Little Mermaid is...
Starting point is 02:33:42 The Rapping. On Aquafina sings, squawks, the Scuttlebut C-Rap, who's urgently reporting the gossip that Ursula is apparently... Lynn Manuel Miranda wrote the lyrics, not that you need to tell us. Not that you need us to tell you that. You can hear his unmistakable flow when Aquafina delivers bars like, okay, now huddle up Buttercup. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:02 It's, yeah, man, I don't know. Look, I like Lin-Madwell Miranda, okay? Like, in the Heights is awesome. And I thought Hamilton was cool. And freestyle love unity, bro. Freestyle love Supreme. Supreme. Supreme is a, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:16 He's a bit of a, he's a bit of a, he's a bit of a, a Puerto Rican national treasure in that sense. Like, we, we, we, we, we, make no mistake, he's annoying. It's annoying to see him kind of everywhere, like, that's true. But I respect. Because he's the Puerto Rican, he's an approachable Puerto Rican, that's why. Yeah, yeah, he's the only guy. But like, this is bad.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Like, it's, it's, it's bad. It's, and I'm not saying, I'm like, I'm not saying it's a hater. I just, it's, it's not good. Anyway. The first church to keep David featuring Liquid Swine and his undying love for the gays All my exes live in Texas And Texas
Starting point is 02:34:57 Is a place I dearly love to be Oh nice, George Strait Pre-Raz Like 896 Cammy should be a Wow Sorry
Starting point is 02:35:09 George Strait All my exes live in Texas How would you make that gay His name would just be George gay and all my I love that I can't I can't I can't go down this right
Starting point is 02:35:25 Cammy Cammy vagina scented candles I can make that gay Cammy vagina scented candles I don't know how much My asses be a blasting How much are these candles And how many can I
Starting point is 02:35:42 How can I get them in bulk They're 50 a pop I'll get fucking I'll eat a pop I'll buy five I'll buy 50 I'll buy 50 I'll buy 50 these things
Starting point is 02:35:54 keep me on my fucking toes Fairly 911 theme I'm not gonna say that I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say I'm wild 911 911 theme baby shower It's twins Alaska no feel trash
Starting point is 02:36:07 Sue Hulk tickle my ass hairs Nicky Ziggie Marcus chain sawing through a locus while altistically screaming Dom I am a surge Surgeon that that that
Starting point is 02:36:18 that name doesn't change but I picture it every time and it's really fucking funny Lebuttumize Jesus can't wait to lick Hulk Hogan slop wet fat fucking pussy like a dog in a water bowl the sounds of mommy and daddy
Starting point is 02:36:31 fighting downstairs but it's drowned out by Derek's Derek and Sween's slang argument every time I come it sounds like Squidward walking Jackson DuPont Badly Brave hugger Derek the rhythm to the rhythm
Starting point is 02:36:42 of Bulls on parade come on command aetherian, Pragerian hunter, Melvis won Air to the throne of haphazard and rounding out our list as always. The king! The king!
Starting point is 02:36:56 The king of hapazard himself. George Gay. That's it. You got a two and a half hour episode. I think you got a beefy one. I think you got a pretty good one. Beef. Next episode's 45 minutes. The next episode is just the credits. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 02:37:13 a lot. Yeah, yeah. All right. See you guys. Bye. All my gay exes live in Texas. Click and collect. Order confirmed. Dad, tomorrow can we start a band? Can we become robots? Affirmative. Can we go crab battling? That isn't a thing. How about swimming? Dad, can we take a nap? You not off and I'll pick up the shop and deal. Deal.
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