The Snark Tank - #196: When SIMPS Attack

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Derek, Derek black person. Look at him. Look at him with his, with his little ony mask. You better be fucking careful with that shit. You got to be careful with that shit. That shit can be, how much did that cost you? How much was that mask? 150 bones.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Oh, damn. So that's like not even like a joke. That's like, that's, no, this is like I invested to, because I was like, I need real shit. Not some rubber fake bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like a genuine.
Starting point is 00:01:24 $150. Do that. That's more enough spent on condoms, my husband. whole life, bro. That's crazy. That's, that's, that's, that's potentially a haunted mask. So you got to be fucking careful with that shit. I would be, I would be, I would be worried if it wasn't, it was built in, it was customized in the Southeast Asia.
Starting point is 00:01:46 But if it was in like, say, like some, a lot of ghosts. Yeah, I mean, yeah, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of died all over the world, just saying. Yeah, a lot of, uh, war casualty ghosts probably It's actually probably way more haunted Because you know people always say Indian
Starting point is 00:02:02 Native American burial grounds Are like haunted and shit So like yeah It's probably Just as bad over there actually I feel like they're not haunted Everybody there is just like I'm just dead now let me be
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'm just dead They're definitely absolutely haunted I don't think they're absolutely A million percent There's Wendy goes running around Every time I I've been to sanitaries at night And let me tell you
Starting point is 00:02:26 There's like, I have never, I have never been to a cemetery at night and not seen at least five Wendigo's. That's insane. Wendigolds aren't even haunting creatures. That's what makes it even, like, what are you experiencing? When it goes to people that hate other people. That's it. They're not even like spirits. They're just, they're just monsters.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah, but every time I see one, there's always a ghost that whispers to me. He's like, you see that one to go? You know, dude, you said, like, ah. Then I run away. The idea of that goes, like, yo, do you say the fucking, what if I'm out of here, dude? It runs off. You know, the idea of a ghost being afraid of anything is, I love that idea. I've definitely been to, I've definitely been to, like, graveyard to nighttime and they're eerie.
Starting point is 00:03:15 But they're not really scary. Who are you with? Who are you with when you did that? Like, this is, this, it's been friends. Obviously a white woman. Obviously, a white woman. Yeah, like white people, right? Obviously, a white woman. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Obviously. obviously. In my dumber days, in my dumber days, when I was trying to make an older situation work. Yes. It was the white woman. Now I don't, now I'm like, oh, no. Like, if Lillie asked me, dude, I'd leave her, I'd be like, wow, that's crazy. You were almost forever.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then I'll just leave her. You were almost forever. I've definitely kicked over tombstones. Definitely stole their flowers. I mean, that people have bodies up, slapped the bodies around a few times. Like, ha, look at this. They get selfies. I've done all that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:03:54 There's no, untranted. Slap the body, man, slap the bodies. What kind of amazing. I love how there's nothing more disrespectful than slapping something. There's something about it that is just so disrespectful. I'm going to Wakes and I've open hands slap the fucking, the body in viewing. Everybody's getting mad. I'm like, shut the fuck up if I do it again.
Starting point is 00:04:17 You had to do it again. Do it again. Yeah, yeah. Me and my bro, we have, we have fond memories of. you know, tag teaming. I don't know if you ever heard of the Dudley boys. They have just like finishing move called the Dudley Death Drop. Just do a 3D and fucking just over the coffin and snapping in half.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Those were good days, man. Those were good days. Oh, yeah. Me and my bro kind of grown apart since then. We probably need to crash another funeral and like get back together. You know what I mean? Get the band back together. What kind of creature does that, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Like what kind of person goes to funerals and they just like, I'm going to disrespect this person. A model citizen That I don't even know I never met this person ever in my life They've never bothered me But I'm bored Kingston There's no person
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's just a box With lifelessness in it There no But the being that's willing to disrespect Not the not the fucking What are they what are they called What was the new word I found out about
Starting point is 00:05:12 A new version for a body called Um It's another It's another For fucking like a dead body What was it called? I'm looking at the word Like a slang term for dead body
Starting point is 00:05:22 No no There's an official term, but it sounds funny. Okay. Cadaver? Yes. What? Yes. Cadaver.
Starting point is 00:05:32 That's not a new phrase. That's what I found out. I found out a cadaver recently because it's... No way. You did. Like maybe it was in like the last like three or four years. I never, I never heard cadaver before. I've heard cadaver if I never really knew what it meant.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I didn't know I meant about it. That is insane to me. Because cadaver, because because cadaver, listen, let's listen. cadaver is such a like cadaver doesn't sound like it's it's an object and there's nothing personable about it anymore when you say oh go go get the cadaver put it in the room that doesn't sound like you're talking about a human's body it sounds so detached from it I mean I get that's so it's funny to me you've never heard that that's I've probably heard it but I never put something it really gets me because that's not that cadaver's not a common English word no
Starting point is 00:06:21 But the thing that gets me about it is that surely is that is that not like at the very least like a like a D&D or like a that doesn't come up in like fantasy talk at all like. No. I don't know. People don't know because that's that is a word. That is an official word right. But you don't hear cadaver. You don't hear people say that. People say dead body.
Starting point is 00:06:41 That's what people say. I don't know. I feel like I've heard. That's surprising to me. Anyway, I definitely heard that. People have said it. Yeah, people say cadavers. Especially people say cadaver
Starting point is 00:06:51 When they're referring to like moving a dead body They would say it oh move a cadaver Like people that are like doing like Mortuary work It is but it is interesting that like you never Somehow you never made the connection By you've heard it but you never Because it's like it's one of those things
Starting point is 00:07:09 Where I feel like I never Only usually When I find out what it meant I was like oh definitely that's what it means That's that that is so interesting because I just for as long as I can remember watching But it's probably also has to do with watching, I used to watch SVU, like when I was young. And then there's also, like, there was a death metal band called Wake in the Cadaver that I just,
Starting point is 00:07:31 but like I just, there's, I just, I don't know, I can't remember actually learning it, but I will say, I love that word. I've heard a lot in horror movies and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, maybe, maybe. When I was young, I remember juxtaposition was a word that I just, I heard a lot, but I never even bothered to look it up. And then it's like when I paid attention to her, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:53 I don't exactly know what that means, but I've heard it enough in context where I think I know what it means. Because it's just a weird, that is a weird sounding fucking word to be. It is, yeah. It sounds like tricky. I don't know. It sounds, I don't know, like a gesture.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like it almost sounds like it would be tied to like some. Go ahead. The word like in and of itself almost sounds like a juxtaposition. You know what I mean? Because it's like you have the word position. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like a completely normal word. and then you have juxto,
Starting point is 00:08:21 which is like, what the fuck? That's not in anything. That's like that sound doesn't exist in anything. So it's kind of a perfect word. Doesn't that sound like a clown or something? Like it would be like a medieval gesture. That was like that was juxto.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Another, another word that I, juxto, the jester. Hey. They throw shit at them and stuff and the fucking. Hey, I'm so,
Starting point is 00:08:42 hey, man, I'm sort of in between these things. I'm compared to these things. That's so, that's the worst possible entertainment gimmick I've ever heard for fucking anybody. I'm juxto the jester. Watch me put two things that shouldn't be together
Starting point is 00:08:58 together. That's insane. That really rolls off the tongue though, don't it though? Yeah, yeah. I could see that on a sign, a big sign. For me, the word homologous, I didn't know that word. I didn't, I knew that word
Starting point is 00:09:13 homologous. Because homologous. The fuck is that? Analogous kind of mean the same thing. I actually, I don't think I've ever heard somebody use that word. Homologous? That's in science, that's why.
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Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah, I've heard it's like bio. Oh, yeah, okay, I know you're... I haven't heard this. I haven't heard this word since fucking definitely high school. But... I'm like, oh, that's homologous. And people say analogous. And I was like, don't you mean...
Starting point is 00:10:43 I was... Because I didn't know analogous. I didn't know what analogous meant. And I thought it meant the other one of the... opposite homologous. I forgot what that word. Homologous. Homologous? Homologous.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Homologous? Homologous. But gay. In bio. In bio. Yeah. Exactly. Which is funny because
Starting point is 00:11:02 analogous is just anal. But the, I don't know. What the fuck are we talking? We got to, we got to look. Anal goose. Oh, first of all, first of all,
Starting point is 00:11:12 first of all. Anal goose. First of all. Anal goose. Hey, first of all. Merry Christmas Happy holidays To y'all
Starting point is 00:11:22 People out there Thank you for being Listeners Especially you long time niggas We're hopping in We're close to like be For four years of this shit Which sounds insane to me
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's something that I'm like wait We've been doing this for almost four fucking years That doesn't sound right to Like that happened It doesn't same thing Same thing happened with Sacred where it's like, hey, we're doing late. We've done this for five years.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And it's like, how is that fucking possible? But whatever. I mean, I guess we're here. We've had our, we've consistently had our biggest month on Patreon every month for the last, like, few months, which is fucking awesome. I needed to log into the Patreon for whatever reason. I can't remember why. And, uh, when I saw the number, like, my eyes were like, what? Like, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's wild, man. It's wild. It's, it's so fucking awesome. It's really insane Yeah You know we've got a Yeah, I don't respect any of you guys For real like I appreciate you guys give me
Starting point is 00:12:26 But I don't respect any of you In fact you guys should be giving me more I've never had somebody I've never had somebody undercut what I was what I was trying to say So quickly and so immediately In such a specific way it's crazy I'm tired of people you I can't speak for Kingston
Starting point is 00:12:39 I would never wish to We're long beyond those days But all I would like to say is I really I really appreciate you guys, I don't even care. I don't even care that you guys are homeless. It does bother me a little bit. I'm not going to be, I'm not going to pretend like it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Like, I think about it sometimes. I try to leave, I try to leave that information out when I tell people about you guys. I try to, like, I leave the homelessness kind of like on the side because it's fucking embarrassing, quite frankly. But, you know, we still appreciate your support. We still appreciate your support. And, you know, we've, like I said, just the fact that every month for the last several months has been our biggest month yet.
Starting point is 00:13:16 and it just seems to keep going up is fucking crazy. It's also very confusing because the subscriber number for the YouTube channel goes down constantly. So I don't understand what the... It doesn't seem to make sense at all. Like it's like, okay, we make more money and we get more viewers, but also we lose subscribers. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I don't know. Maybe YouTube's being weird. But... YouTube is absolutely being weird. I'll just leave it at that. It is, I've had that problem. A lot of people have had that same fucking problem, even when they've seen... I have one time, I just want to say real quick, actually, before you move on, because I'm glad you brought this up because it upset me so much that after years of suffering that with my main channel, one person in the support team was actually told me the truth and no one ever again.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And they said, you have too many yellow dollar signs. When this happens, your shit goes into algorithmic abysses. It starts shit. It fucks your channel up. And I was like, and I was like, that makes perfect sense. That makes fucking perfect sense because I think we have maybe three green videos in the entirety of this channel. I think maybe three episodes of this podcast are monetized and that's it because immediately right off the bat, everything that we talk about. So fuck, there's usually an N word in the first 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And obviously, obviously. Yeah, okay, that makes perfect sense. So YouTube is just, man, maybe I should just like restart my original channel then too. because that's definitely happening with my original channel as well because there's too many It's something where I think the Here's the problem with that
Starting point is 00:14:49 I think the only way you can actually fix it Is that you have to have to be intervention from their side Like they have to give you a clean slate Because you've already been marked For example You know I figured out Here's a sad fucking thing Where people
Starting point is 00:15:03 There are some people that were being like Oh man your channel Your main channel is completely dead And I'm like yeah I know But you know what's fucked up I'm right now with this podcast, I'm making more money than I ever did with my main channel because my main channel was so fucked from the very get-go when I started comparing money with people.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Like, I always use this as an example. December 2016 was a huge month for a lot of people in the community, the SJD, whatever. I know some people that made upwards of tens to 20,000s, whatever, we had similar numbers and views. I made less than $3,000. And that was an amazing month for me And so when I started learning There was people making like upwards of this type of money
Starting point is 00:15:46 And this and their ads and so I'm like oh My channel's been fucking dead since 2015 Because of some of the subjects I talked about Like Islamic terrorism and blah blah blah And some other shit that I was talking about And they just immediately like this guy's not cool To fucking make money Yeah they ravaged you
Starting point is 00:16:02 They ravaged you 100%. So I was like me losing all this Views and all this shit on my main channel it really didn't mean anything to me because I was barely I was only advertising I was making money through that
Starting point is 00:16:15 and once they went away I'm like I have no reason to fucking upkeep this channel anymore it makes no difference to me it's just so crazy to me that like the channel keeps losing but like the show is Chevy trucks have you covered
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Starting point is 00:17:05 It doesn't make sense. Because just because the channel wants. Because the algorithmic up is, that's so weird. It's like why. Yes, 100%. That's what I really don't like about YouTube, is, especially now, is that it's not even really representative. Like, I put it this way a long time ago, but if a video fails, it's not even because the video, you can't even know for sure if it's, oh, is it because the video's bad? Is it because the site is broken?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Is it because the site is working as intended and it's just built in a stupid way? like there's there used to be a really clear defining understanding of like why something would fail. If your video didn't hit, it's because it didn't, it just wasn't good or people didn't care about it. There was like an actual connecting line between how good something was and how interesting something was to the audience versus how well it did. And now that kind of doesn't exist at all. Now it doesn't matter if the thing is good or if it like if the audience responds well to it or if it's really engaging to people. If people are willing to pay money for it. because if your channel has this many
Starting point is 00:18:08 fucking yellow dollar signs attribute to it it will actively work against that content for no reason so it's just like it's it's a fucking annoying platform it's really stupid it's terrible and the only thing I've seen to counteract it even at all is
Starting point is 00:18:24 in which you can't do with a podcast format is you have to change titles change thumb you have to continuously fuck with things to get people to return to the video to trick the algorithm to be like oh this video must be really interesting because X, Y and Z
Starting point is 00:18:42 keep returning to this video and they'll try to boost in the algorithm so if you've noticed there's a lot of people nowadays that will change their thumbnail like almost like three times in a month and change the title to almost like it's wild see what we'll change thumbnails that's crazy dude yeah but you can't do that the podcast
Starting point is 00:19:00 not really I mean you can change the picture within it but you're not going to change the number the episode. You can't really change the fucking title. Not really. It's just, it's not really good for to do with the podcast. So it's just it is what it is. I think the, there's not
Starting point is 00:19:16 much that can be done other than if we specifically and we've talked about doing this before making, uh, putting the clips on the channel, putting clips on that channel specifically to just start shitting stuff out. And then the algorithm being, oh, they're really active.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Maybe we should fucking, it's just like, it's, it's it's gay. That's long. It's stupid. I'm already at the point where we could just not put shit on YouTube. That's where I've been there for a while. I've already been there for a while. We would lose a significant amount of people. Now I know like say, you know what's crazy? I feel like we'd lose no money.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But I feel like we would lose people wouldn't see the podcast and that's not fair to those people. That is where I stand on it. That's where I'm like, we shouldn't just take it away for some people. Some people watch it on YouTube, you know. If there was a way like, Yeah, yeah. If there was a way to put video on Spotify, that would be much. Yeah, I would do that 100% instead.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They're working on that, I think, aren't they? I've heard. I mean, they said that fucking years ago, and I'm like, well, they're slowly rolling shit out, but not fast enough. I feel like they've had the capability to do it a long time ago, and they just kind of don't really, it's not that important to them. I look at the numbers every week. Every got to look at the numbers. I analyze the numbers. Every week, it's up.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's an upward trajectory. Upward direction. And then you go look at YouTube and you're like this weird stagnation. It's like, why? YouTube is not a... Like, why? Like, why is it stacking over here? Because it's not a meritocracy at all.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It just, it exists almost to stifle good shit. Like, it almost, like, it's, it really does suck, but it's, it's more about kid-friendly content. It's like, oh, well, let's, 100%. Let's, let's make a friendly vlog about fucking rainbows or something. Like, it's just like, that's the only shit that's even. remotely profitable. Or you have a big audience that,
Starting point is 00:21:07 I don't know, like people like, I don't know, like, critical have where like it's just kind of, they were already kind of huge before. And so they kind of can make it work regardless. But it's just like, I don't know, but even they do like other stuff. It's like, hey, here's a comic,
Starting point is 00:21:23 here's a merch line. Here's like an event. You know what I mean? It's like you can't really just do YouTube anymore, which is lame. I've been like, I like a certain content, right? About like certain things.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I like, I observe D&D content. right. I got all these names before and now I'm going back looking through and I'm getting all these smaller names now because now these people are part of the algorithm when these videos are made like four years ago and I'm like where was this video when I was first looking for this content? Now I find it. That's really cool. Three years ago would have been helpful to find this as well. You know what the answer to that is? No clue. You're gay. Let's move on to the It's always I'm gay. Big facts.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's always I'm gay. Every time. Big facts. I saw somebody, I saw that clip going around for some reason. I don't know why. That clip has showed up on my like Instagram and on my Twitter like a million times since we posted that episode. I don't even remember what episode that's from. I don't either.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I don't know what the fuck we were talking about. But like I said something like you know what my retort to that is and you're like what? I said you're gay. And it's just that clip. I don't remember what the fucking context was for that at all. Not even a little bit. We have a lot to get to today, and we do want to get to a lot of questions as well. So I do want to start with this Insomniac leak, because I'm sincerely fascinated by the reaction that certain people have had to this.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And for people who don't know, I mean, I don't even know, how would I, how would I say a few days ago at the time of recording this episode. Insomniac games, the developer of like, you know, classic ratchet and clanks, Sunset Overdrive, and more recently the smash hit like PlayStation Spider-Man, the exclusive, the PlayStation exclusive Spider-Man games, they were the victim of like this massive data breach. Hackers somehow got their hands on an insane amount of data that they held over Sony for a $2 million dollar ransom. These hackers were like, hey, give us the $2 million or else all this information goes out. That information including like a full test build of their upcoming Wolverine game,
Starting point is 00:23:28 or at least like a vertical slice of it, early game. Play footage screenshots, story spoilers, internal documents, revenue data, budgets, sales data, personal information about employees, including, you know, like voice actors, passports, and personal information, contracts, emails. Sex life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably a nude or two in there. I don't know if that's true. There's a bunch of dicks. There's a bunch of images of Spider-Man's dick. I was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Why? Spider-Man's hyper-realistic cock, and it's pronged, which is crazy. but you know there's so there's a lot of this information it's like over a terabyte of this information right lots of videos of the game have leaked as well like vertical slices and stuff it's crazy and evidently these people did not get that two million dollars because otherwise we wouldn't be talking about this stuff now leaks in and of themselves are like not really anything new to the games industry in fact they've been like astoundingly common lately in particular we had the invidia leak a few years back
Starting point is 00:24:25 that kind of spoiled everything until like 2025 we had the juneiq GTA 5 leaks, or the GTA 6 leaks, the Capcom leak from a while back. Even just last week, there was this massive suicide squad killed the Justice League leak that was being covered by fucking everybody. There was an Xbox leak too that detailed what their next console was going to be in like 2026 or whatever the fuck and like even just the design of it, patents for like controllers and stuff. There's been a lot of leaks just in the last year.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And for some reason, the insomniac leak happens. And I saw this kind of. sentiment going around from people that are really big in the industry. And even some people that I like genuinely like and respect and know personally, we're talking about how like, oh, well, we're not going to cover this leak because, you know, leaks hurt the developers. And, you know, it's not cool. They work really hard to make these games.
Starting point is 00:25:23 They work really hard to put these stuff together. And it's the industry's been suffering like an insane amount of layoffs. So you know what? We're not going to cover the Sony leaks or the insomniac leaks, which is like as a as a as a as a premise and a sentiment I get because developers do get a lot of shit for no reason, especially like when a lot of the times publishers are to blame for a lot of the shit that people blame developers for. I get that. But these people, these same people were covering leaks the entire year gleefully, like really happily, talking about how like, oh man, look at all these fucking suicide squad leaks. Oh my God, look at the Xbox leaks.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But suddenly because it's insomniac and because it's a PlayStation studio and unfortunately I have put two and two together with some of these people where like they have a really close relationship with Sony Studios, even specifically insomniac, I can't help I look at that and be like, well, it kind of feels like you just don't want to upset your friends. And I get that, but maybe this isn't really what your job should be then. Like, if you want to schmooze with these people and you want to be, of course, do I, would I want to be friends with Sam Lake and, like, Hideo Kajima? Absa fucking lootly. That'd be awesome. It'd be so sick to call these people up or talk to them whenever the fuck you wanted. But at the same time, it's like, doesn't that kind of, I don't know, should you be covering games in that way if that's what your goal is? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:58 That's fucking crazy to me. Because there's a lot of news here that is really fucking incredible. Like really interesting shit. Sunset Overdrive made $567 in profit. That's crazy. That makes sense. That's insane. That game was so good, too.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait. What the fuck did you just say? It barely turned to profit. Sunset Overdrive made $500 in profit, which by the way, made more apparently than fucking the new Ratchet and Clank game.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Because the new Ratchet and Clank game didn't turn a profit apparently. So like there's just really fucking fascinating things in there. And then obviously like the entire release schedule for the entire release schedule for Insomniacs like games leading up to 20th. That release schedule was first of all that release schedule is fucking
Starting point is 00:27:49 absurd. That is an insane It's absurd. First let me let me let me air out with era. Okay. I think that the fact that people's personal information, the fact that it was hacked and then they attempted to negotiate, that shit is super shitty and it needs to be condemned. I think the whole entire leak culture needs to be fucking quelled
Starting point is 00:28:11 and sunny's happened somebody really quick. Like some shit needs to be initiated fast because we've developed this really bad effect where we assume we deserve to see the games for people already. And granted, there are sentences where there's like, there's the halos and the, So the lesser degree, Halo. It's not about whether we deserve to see them.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's just, oh, well, it's out there and it's news. Well, no, no, no, no, no. But that's not what I'm going on. I'm going to get at that exactly. If it's out there, it's out there, you know. And like, what's out there? You know, might as well see it if it's out there. But the fact that it's become so common that it's out there in general is a bit of a problem now, right?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Like elite cultures become too common. It's just too common now. I it's way too common in the last four years I know what you're saying it's just a matter like I don't like the clickiness that I feel from this story No the click nature is stupid it's there It seems because dude fucking what was it There were I don't know man
Starting point is 00:29:13 The The idea with you that like suddenly The idea that suddenly No but the idea that suddenly we are like really empathetic to people in this situation Like we're all suddenly we're like really empathetic to insomniac for having this massive leak because like developers want to be able to surprise people and they want to they don't want to show stuff before it's ready because it's not ready yet and they want you to see their stuff when it's when it's actually ready and when it's actually indicative of like what you're
Starting point is 00:29:37 going to be seeing and I understand that but where was that attitude the entire last year where was this attitude last week when these people were covering the fucking suicide squad leaks in great fucking detail look I understand what you're saying I don't I don't I agree with the I agree that certain people are exempt from that empathy. Like that bothers the hell out of me. It's like either you, either you cover all these leaks. Hold that belief for everyone.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Let him finish, man. Let it. Either you cover all of these leaks with the understanding that it sucks for the people involved, but it's news and will cover it. Or you have the empathetic stance where it's like, hey, listen, we understand that this is really hard on the studios. And so we're not going to cover leaks in general. That should be your only two, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:25 operating procedures as far as that goes. You can't pick and choose. And look, because I saw Greg Miller from kind of funny. I know people are going to be like, oh, well, you do a podcast with Colin, Greg's old co-host. It really has nothing to do with that. I have no real negative opinion about Greg Miller at all. But I saw this thing where he's like, hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:41 this is really hard on insomniacs, so we're not going to cover it. And I know for a fact that Greg is in Spider-Man. Like, there's a character in Spider-Man that he's, Easter egg in Spider-Man. And I can't help but see that and notice that, well, he's not an Easter egg in, he's not an Easter egg in Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League. He's not an Easter egg in any Xbox game. He's not an Easter egg in any Capcom game, but he's an Easter egg in a Spider-Man game, and just so happens that's the one that he refuses to cover. Like, it
Starting point is 00:31:17 sits really incorrectly with me. And look, I don't, I'm not saying that you have to cover every single bit of, like, because there's information in there that has no business being shared by anybody. Like, there's no need to show like, oh, hey, here's, oh, it's news. Here's Uri Lohenthal's passport. That's not fucking necessary. That's not news. That's just doxing. Like, there's nothing newsworthy that you get out of knowing what the Uri Lohenthal's passport looks like. But there's massive news to be uncovered from the fact that fucking sunset overdrive made $500. That is crazy. And that's fucking fascinating.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like that's like a really interesting thing. I don't think anybody would have ever thought that that was true. Or like the entire slate of their releases up to 2030. And even some things about that and how interesting that is and how fucking often they are planning to release shit. Which is fucked. Like they've got a lot of games planned for the next couple years. And that's whether we like it or not, whether that destroys the surprise or not. And I get, I, it totally does, like it ruins a lot of surprises, but it's a news.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I agree. And I agree. I agree. You're, you're right about this nature of my, my, it's my friend, so I'm not going to say anything because that's not fair journalism. You know? Yeah. That's not like real journalism integrity. I totally, I totally get the impulse.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I get it. But at the same time, it's like, dude, you got, you're in this sphere. and it just doesn't... And I also understand that, like, hypocrisy is not like... Everybody's a fucking hypocrite, right? Everybody's got something. Everybody's got a bunch of shit
Starting point is 00:32:58 that they're, like, completely contradictory on. So it's not like a massive point necessarily that say, like, oh, condemn these people. It's not like these people are like evil people. It's just a matter of just like, listen, man. It looks weird when you covered suicide squad leaks yesterday. And today, you're like, oh, well, not this studio
Starting point is 00:33:14 because I'm an Easter egg in this game. Like, it just looks shitty. But the context between suicide Squad and this leak are very different contexts what's the game is the game information you know that's freed no one's personal information got leaked from the suicide squad thing not some into suicide squad has been in development and delayed four times um i know people that are working on that game and that game this has been a fucking disaster from from me hearing directly from them outside of them everyone's heard it's granted still there's good information that came
Starting point is 00:33:49 from it, but the context is slightly different. But nonetheless, if you're going to be a journalist, be real. I just don't understand what makes the context different. A leak is a leak, right? Well, a leak about people's personal information is a very different thing. Well, that's very different. That's very different. But that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:07 It's like, that's not news. You know what I mean? Well, that's why they were condemning it. That's the nature of the condemning it is because of the fact that people could actually very much so get hurt from the information that was released from the stuff of insomnia. Well, I guess the question is, would there be any different in action if there was no doxing and it was just purely gaming information? Do you think those same people?
Starting point is 00:34:29 I think there would be still. I would still be the same kind of attitude. If it would still be the same, then Chris's point still holds up. Oh, no, yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. I feel like the only because, do you know what this feels like to me? Like with those people being biased like that?
Starting point is 00:34:44 It feels like to me when people like, say, for example, a Mr. Beast where he is whole. he's helping out everybody but you know it's it's a it's a balance where if you do this charity work for views you get to write all this shit off so it's like a thing where it's not like
Starting point is 00:35:02 even though it's kind of like he's doing great shit there is another intention behind it and so with those people going to bat for insomniac even though it's kind of messed up that didn't do the same thing for suicide squad or anyone else there's good behind it still it's still a positive
Starting point is 00:35:19 thing but it's like moving forward moving forward you need to keep that same energy keep that same energy now yeah and that's the only thing yeah that's the only thing you can't you can't cover leaks now straight up because then you just look like a fucking asshole so
Starting point is 00:35:35 you've written yourself into a corner here and it's also I don't know man it's just it's it's weird and I saw some people going like well oh it's different because you know certain those leaks came directly from the company you know like or like The Xbox leak was a big one because that leak happened because a lawyer, one lawyer at Microsoft apparently tried to black out or redact some stuff with like an incorrect pen.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Like there's a specific pen that you have to use to redact information from court documents. And he didn't use it. He used like a standard marker. And so because of that, all of the stuff was kind of really easily legible like through the black ink. And so a lot of that information got let loose and a lot of that information ended up, you know, getting out. to the public. And I know what people mean when they say that. It's like, oh, it's fair game if, you know, it's the company's fault. But if they get hacked, it's not exactly the same thing. I get that. But at the same time, if your argument is that it's hard on the team for their
Starting point is 00:36:34 surprises to be ruined and it's hard on the team for their hard work to be let go, I don't know if that really matters. And also, couldn't you argue that somebody at Insomniac probably clicked a link that they shouldn't have that ended up giving these hackers a backdoor into the studio in the first place, making it their fault? anyway. So like, I'm so glad you brought that up. It's, so I agree. I agree with that, but we don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. And here's what we do know. Here's what we do know. Nobody at any of these studios wants that information out there. What we do know is that it's objectively that they don't want it out there, that it ruins morale at the team,
Starting point is 00:37:10 and that it's a really big fucking deal for the team to go through it. And so if that's the main point, if that's the empathetic angle that we're taking, then it shouldn't matter if they got hacked or if it was the fault of the company because the reality is it's always one person's fault and the rest of the company shouldn't pay the price for that. Most of the time.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Focusing on that. Most of the time, hacks, that's one thing that people always miss that most of the time someone got duped in and doing some dumb shit they shouldn't have done.
Starting point is 00:37:36 This happened so fucking, dude, with the amount of, remember in 2014? What was it called the fapening? like that whole wave of shit was like when you figured out how everybody got pretty much hacked
Starting point is 00:37:54 it's it's almost mind-boggling like how did you how did you fall for this how did you fall for this obviously fake fucking fishing thing but uh it's it was one of those things it happened to so many people and it's just like oh wow so yeah these people are human and every once in a while doesn't matter how tech savvy you are You saw something that, oh, you got signed out of your fucking X, Y, Z. Now you need to go back in. And then all of a sudden, you're fucked.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And it's that because I've heard a lot. I saw a lot of people saying things like these companies need to do a better job protecting their shit and this, this and this and that. And I always say, well, there's also a lot of companies out there that you would assume these hackers would want their information too. But why aren't they getting it from them? Like, there's a lot of, you know what I mean? Like you got to think about these things too. Those people are gridlocked, bro. They're not letting that shit happen.
Starting point is 00:38:47 They're not letting you only get a chance. Right. And so what are they doing and what do these companies? What does insomnia and PlayStation have to do to correct this shit so this shit doesn't happen? You know, like, of course, hackers are, this is one thing. Hackers are always going to be there. It's a fucked up. It's a fucked of reality. They're always going to try to get you.
Starting point is 00:39:06 So we got to get ahead of it some way. Even as like, say consumers, for example, if we want to like say not say make murderers, school shooters or whatever popular, well, I guess we can't prop them up as much. So I kind of understand the sentiment of like not wanting to talk about this stuff, but it's like now you've got to be consistent.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You have to be consistent now. If that's how you feel legitimately, moving forward, can't talk about this shit. But I have a feeling and Chris, I know and y'all have a feeling that that's not how it's going to go down. It's not going to go none that way, ain't it?
Starting point is 00:39:43 It's going to like, juicy shit's going to come out again. and with enough time passes by they're going to talk about again, is it? Yeah, I mean, probably. Like, I don't know. Like, I feel bad about it for the people at Insomnia. It sucks. Like, it's like a lot of...
Starting point is 00:39:56 Sure. A lot of shit that's out there that really shouldn't be. A lot of... I don't know, man. That sucks. It's got to be a really bleak mood, and I feel for them, but it's like, you know... It's out there, man.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's news. And people are going to be picking through this shit for a really, really long time. And I think the best thing that you can do really is cover the stuff that is actually important. Or cover the stuff that is actually like newsworthy instead of doing this whole thing where it's like, okay, well, we're not going to cover it. Because I feel like that that leads to people being like, okay, well, it's weird that they're not covering it. Let me dig into the stuff myself. And then suddenly people's actual personal information, like passports and stuff is actually, that stuff's actually going to be seen by people that don't really need to see it.
Starting point is 00:40:44 you know um i feel like it's better for them to be like hey listen there's all the news here's all the newsworthy here's all the newsworthy stuff about that actually here's all the newsworthy stuff from the from the from what from this leak here's you know the release slate here's like the financials and interesting details from it um everything else is not look i i i can't i don't know if i here's the thing i don't know if i agree with that only because just the people that i think i'm pretty sure that less people would know about if it wasn't for the outlets
Starting point is 00:41:18 I wouldn't even know about this shit to be honest That's just kind of how things operate That's how people operate in general But that's what I'm saying That's what I'm saying it's like they To cover it in the way that they So specifically No what I mean what no hold on
Starting point is 00:41:31 Because like what I'm saying is Let's just say for the sake of argument Everybody The biggest news outlets and whatnot People that cover games They decided not to cover it I imagine most people who consume their content
Starting point is 00:41:46 would just not know about it now they just would not in the same vein as like say that do you remember when that fucking Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light thing where it's like if those fucking pieces of shit just chose to not even mention that shit no one who the fuck she is
Starting point is 00:42:01 like they wouldn't know anything and they never would have came across it so it's just one of the things where it's like I think technically look man I'll be real I feel bad but at the same time I'm more on your side where I'm like fuck it's out people gonna talk about it this is an industry too people want to get clicks I get it so it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:42:22 you kind of have to deal with it unfortunately you can't expect everybody to do that noble thing and not mention it like you can't expect that you just can't I guess I guess I think for me is that what I because I didn't really look that deeply into it I heard that they got hacked but I didn't yeah I don't know like I didn't care that much about it yeah we talked about it a little bit before all this information came out on on sacred symbols obviously because I didn't really look that they got it's a big story. And it'll probably be the biggest story next year, too.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But... 100. You know, when this happened, and then I saw that video of Greg Miller being like, hey, we're not going to cover it. And I was like, well, what? That's weird. If you're not going to cover it, just don't mention it at all.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Because that made me so fucking curious. Like, the second I saw it's like, oh, we're not going to cover this because this, like, this and that. It's like, okay, no, I have to see this. I have to see what the fuck this is. Because they have not... That's a good point. Because they covered everything else.
Starting point is 00:43:14 That's kind of the thing that comes into play with this. It's like they covered Suicide Squad. They covered Xbox. They covered Capcom. They covered Gtka 6. What the fuck is in this leak that they, that is like I have to, I have, I'm so curious now. Because now there's like some like error around it. I guess, I guess what I understand what you're coming from.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Let me ask an honest. Let me ask an honest question. Can I ask an honest question, Kingston? Okay, what's that? Did you see any of it? Did you see any of the Wolverine footage? I saw all of there. saw all of the information, period.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I saw Yuri's fucking thing, or his passport, because when I clicked the link, all of it popped up, like, ever, this link to this place, to that place, to that place. And that is a problem. Because of the nature of what it all was. Right. Not that is just game information.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Game is just game information, you know, that shit gets leaked all the time and though I don't like how often it happens. That's where my stance is. It happens too often. That is a problem. When it, when it would happen, like, We'd get a small leak about Halo like 2007, right? You'd get a small leak about something, right?
Starting point is 00:44:17 You wouldn't get people's personal information dropping. You would get, and shit like that, you know? You used to get like grainy screenshots or like grainy images. Or like grainy images. Or a person might let a word slip. I remember a very famous, I remember a very famous, they're famous to me. Halo 3 one, right? assumed my life.
Starting point is 00:44:34 No, there was a Halo Reach one in 2009 and they were screenshots of, I think, the night mission. I don't remember what the fuck I, I don't remember what it was called. but it was like it had the words Tom Morello written over it in paint in like Microsoft Paint for some reason
Starting point is 00:44:50 like I don't know why the fuck I but I remember that so specific so I associate Tom Morello with fucking with Halo Halo Reach Leagues forever now because those I think it was to I think it was to cover certain
Starting point is 00:45:04 or just to like distort the image as much as they can to leak stuff without actually like giving away who they were or whatever but yeah but that's it was what leaks were before, you know? That's what a league was.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But in the modern era, that's not, that's not what leaks are, like, that full hour of Grant the Theta Thoto 6 footage that leaked earlier this year, like that's fucking sucks. That sucks. And then there's also the, the Wolverine gameplay, Wolverine looks sick.
Starting point is 00:45:29 That game looks insane. Also, we should not be seen it yet. It also bothers, I haven't seen it. I'm not seeking it out, though. It bothers the hell out of me, by the way, that like, that like so many people were like, dude this looks so fucking unfinished it's like you should be killed yeah people same thing
Starting point is 00:45:46 lily was saying that li was like why does this spider man look better i was like honey it's not done it's like it's lily it's not done yet it is a weird thing it's not a leak it's like how do you not like i don't understand how the word leak doesn't already come pre-packaged with obviously it's not fucking done because it's leaked it's not finished it's not ready to be out yet like it's How is, it is the weirdest fucking thing that any, that's, it's, it's, it's, the amount of people that said that about GTA6 and that footage is like, astonishing. Look, let me, let me be real. Let me be clear. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:21 G. Let me be clear. But also, it's the alpha. It's not even the beta yet. But that's the thing. But that was an alpha build. How did you think, like, look, okay. That footage.
Starting point is 00:46:31 No, no, no, I understand. No, but not, I'm not talking about you specifically, but people, but I'm just like, okay, that footage looked worse than GTA5. Now, think about this. obviously they're not going to release a GTA 6 that looks worse than GTA 5 what the fuck is wrong with you to even think that for a second it's so weird too because like it's so interesting to see like people who have like a solid understanding of like how the games industry works versus people who are very very clearly layman or or or just not really interested actually because like
Starting point is 00:47:04 so many people were like because I saw that GTA 6 footage and I remember thinking like damn a lot of this is done like this looks actually like surprisingly complete for like an alpha bill right right I was like wow this is this could be fucking cool and then everybody else was like this looks fucking this looks incomplete
Starting point is 00:47:23 and not done and it's like yes that's the whole point every game looks like that by the way every single amazing video game looks like that polished at some point when they're first like when they're building when there's a skeletal world do you think of like
Starting point is 00:47:38 How could you possibly think that? That is, I, how does, do you think houses work that way? Dude, people don't know how people. People put them up the fucking wood fucking planks and shit. And they're like, oh, it looks like shit. People do not, people do not know how games are made at all. They really, they really do not. I know.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I know. It's crazy to think that. These people haven't built anything, Derek. You think these people are building things? That is very true. That is very absolutely true. They've never built anything in their life. It's just.
Starting point is 00:48:08 It's just insane hearing people talk about it. It's like, what are you? Like, it's not done. Like, it's what? That's like saying, oh, this cake is just mixed. It's like, yes, because that's how the cake starts off. I don't know. It starts off as mix and eggs and milk.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And then you make it. It makes me, it saddens me. It makes me lose like, I say, when I say things like this, because I always feel like I've already lost all hope in humanity when there's really horrible horrific events happen but then i'll go around and then i'll like say for example actually literally today this morning i was dropping jojo off and there was a husky in the in the middle of the street and so i dropped her off i pulled i parked i got i followed the husky up to the adjacent building uh me and this lady we called the animal control we got it you know we got it all and it was
Starting point is 00:49:02 just like it was a great moment of like uh the like me and two other people coming together and helping this dog that clearly got out and stuff and it just like made me feel good about people and humanity and then I think about shit like this again and I'm like fuck like what if they brought that van what if they brought that dog? What if they took that dog
Starting point is 00:49:21 in the back of the van and just kicked it to death and they just fucking what if some guy was like oh thanks you found my dog and he picks it up at the belly and it takes a huge bite out of it takes a huge bite out of it and the dog just starts crying
Starting point is 00:49:37 crying. It starts crying. Does you guys ever see that video of that woman of that woman who threw her dog at someone? Yeah. No. She was like super high on drugs. She was like fucking high on crack and cocaine and methamphetamine or like every single thing at once. And she just threw her dog and some guy.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Like a guy. He's like, hey, yo. And I think that guy has the dog now. I think he's just been raising that dog. He kept the dog, which is hilarious. It's a hilarious way to get a dog. Yeah. Hell yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah, I'm actually going to check up on that husky. He mentioned answering that question? How'd you get this? Oh, how'd you, when'd you get this dog? It's like, oh, some drug addict threw this dog, literally threw this dog at me. Uh, so now I have it. And the dogs, well, made it funny. It made it funny.
Starting point is 00:50:23 This is not funny, but it is funny at the same time. When she's like, I want to swing the dog after him, my dog is just suspended in the air, just dangling. And there's this little puppy, just dangling. And it's just like, I don't know why I'm here. I really. was created to make people happy. I don't want to do this.
Starting point is 00:50:41 There's something about people who like, I'm taking this dog now. People who, uh, people who just treat animals like that really piss me off. I don't know. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:53 I think they should be like, be dead. You could beat up, you could, I could watch videos of people beating each other up all day. Like, all day I can watch those videos and people fighting each other
Starting point is 00:51:04 on the train tracks or whatever. And that's fine. But like, I don't know, man, you hit a dog in it, like, it really enrages me. Oh, it's, it's on, man. It's, it's, it's, it's, that's, when I've seen humans on the same street that Jojo works on, she works in a shady neighborhood in a hospital, I've seen it in horrible, horrific conditions. I see a dog that's a little confused, and I immediately rush and spring into action. That is the difference between
Starting point is 00:51:38 Like I am not helping the confused Homeless person that I'm like yeah get fuck out of You're you're full of stink I don't want to I'm not gonna touch you But the dog it's disheveled It looks like it has paint on it or something The dog has like purple paint on it somehow I don't know where it it had a scarf
Starting point is 00:51:56 And a collar that looks like it'd been torn a little bit So maybe it had a tag on it before And I'm like I have shit to do But I'm gonna stay with this dog To get this sorted out I ain't doing that for person unless they're like shot or something. Like if I see someone who's like bleeding, then maybe I'll be like, oh, fuck, what can I do? Beyond that, if you're just like a human that passed out, I might not even stop.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I might just walk over them. I'm sure they'll be fine. It's kind of fucked up, but hey, what do you? Yeah, yeah. I saw a kid. I saw a dude pass out in the middle of the street in L. in South Central. And dudes,
Starting point is 00:52:39 and I thought they were going to help him up. Instead, they just robbed them. They just witnessed pockets and then they left. That's Californians, though. California's, New Yorkers are like this, right? Don't inconvenience me,
Starting point is 00:52:52 and I won't fuck with you. But there's always, like, we have a weird nature of like, we'll curse at you, we'll attack each other. Once someone gets hurt, they'll care. Like, I, like,
Starting point is 00:53:03 I know people that were like, serious drug dealers. Like when a car skirt, they duck down, they grab their hip, you know what they're about to do, like shit like that. But then when my grandmother
Starting point is 00:53:14 would be coming home with the fucking groceries, they would drop what they were doing and they would help my grandmother with the groceries up the stairs. Or when I was a little crossing the street, they would cross the street with me. And I think that's a New York culture thing
Starting point is 00:53:27 because in Cali, I never used shit like that happened. Like, I know people that have, I know people that have robbed other homies as parents. over here and I'm just like what the fuck it's wrong with you guys
Starting point is 00:53:40 they treat old people specifically really well in New York I've just noticed I don't know what that is like the neighborhood but I've known I've known Mrs. Jay since I was a kid though but if you're but if you're just a normal person like if it's just you Kingston like they're not helping you and if they do help you they'll like make fun
Starting point is 00:53:56 of you probably they'll be like no that's not exactly true yeah they will it depends on what you are depends on what you are depends on you are depends if you know anybody if you like trip on the ground if you trip on the ground if you trip the ground and you have a hard time getting up somebody will somebody will pick you up but they'll be like the fuck you thinking idiot or like what the fuck you doing no nobody you're fucking
Starting point is 00:54:14 okay like what are you doing man like why are you out here like this you fucking you're like they'll like harass you like they'll help you while they harass you it's it's fucking fat i've seen it happen like they'll pay for a cab to get you to your house and they'll be insults you the whole time you're like y'all'm having an episode oh my god do you remember that story from like a couple like i think it was like maybe like a maybe like exactly a month ago, probably no longer than that. Of that guy who came to New York and he made a TikTok about how like he, um, he ordered a scoop bagel.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Did you see this? Oh, oh, I heard about the scoop bagel. What the fuck is the scoop bagel? Exactly. So, so a scoop bagel is a bagel, but they scoop all of the bagel, the bread out of it. So it's just the shell of the bagel. And then you get it filled with like, um, I don't know. know cream cheese or or something else like I don't know I don't I don't get it I've never had one
Starting point is 00:55:11 it's definitely not a New York thing I think it's more like a West Coast or like everywhere else thing I I've never experienced that New York ever but but so this guy ordered a scoop bagel and the guy told him get the fuck out of here we don't do that like what are you talking about we're not going to scoop your bagel out and he made a TikTok about it he was like so it was something about like never order a scoop bagel in New York I just I just tried and they They said, get the fuck out of here. And someone, it went so viral that somebody literally got in touch with them. And somebody in New York got in touch with them.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He said, listen, I will buy you a first class flight back to wherever you came from if you get the fuck out of here. And he did it. Like, he actually did. Like, the dude got a free first class flight out of New York because they just, they didn't, they didn't want him there so bad that they were willing to put him in an actual luxurious exile. To get him out of there. It's like, don't you dare order a scoop bagel in my city, you freak. Get the fuck out. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I love that. That is hilarious to me because that is like, yeah, I'll take real good care of you as I exile you to the far reaches of this fucking country. That is awesome. That was so fucking funny. New York is such a crazy place, dude. Like, I, like, I've lived there. Like, that was like where I thought, because I don't consider myself exactly the most New York person anymore. because I left New York
Starting point is 00:56:38 I have to city at like 13 12 13 and then I left New York State like seven years ago and the amount of changes every time I go back is so weird but it's the most perplexal because it's the most like everyone's such an asshole
Starting point is 00:56:54 but at the same time everyone is so there's like this weird kindredness that I've never seen anywhere else like never even close anyway let's move on Yeah. So I do want to talk at least briefly about this,
Starting point is 00:57:11 dude, this Hunter Avalon shit is pretty wild. Okay, you guys explain to me what the fuck that is really. Yeah, so we're shifting gears here pretty drastically, but I really want to talk about this before we get into questions because it's probably one of the craziest things I think I've ever seen to happen in YouTube in general. So Hunter Avalon is. I would say he crazy is. Yeah, yeah, I struggled to think of something.
Starting point is 00:57:36 crazy or really. Maybe, well, that would spoil it a little bit, but all right, let me just, let me lay the groundwork a little bit. Hunter Avalon, obviously, like a big political commentary guy. He used to be on the conservative side. He kind of changed a lot over the years. He's definitely more like on the left-leaning side now. He does a lot of debates with people. He was, he was just on, oh my God, it's not the cut, but you know those, I don't know, those shows where they gather people in a room to talk about shit and it's I don't know what the fuck Yeah like he's on one of those
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah like Jezebel or something Like Jubilee? Something like that yeah Yeah yeah yeah middle grounds Something like that yeah I think it's that I love that shit I love middle grounds So he was on one of those and like he was he's arguing He's a very left-leaning guy now
Starting point is 00:58:24 And you know he I remember I don't I don't have a lot of history with Hunter I remember kind of I remember I remember kind of talking to him a little bit I've never really been friends is what I'm saying or like enemies or anything like he's just some person who just
Starting point is 00:58:41 I was friendly with him and even when he was like a right wing chud I respected him because he was he genuinely believed that stuff at the time he was extremely what I would call integral because I remember just real quick
Starting point is 00:58:57 he came out this was probably like 2017 or some shit to say that letting his audience know that like I'm not religious anymore like I just it just doesn't make any sense to me like when he started and I was like oh he's here's somebody who's not just lying for the sake of lying and making money and I thought
Starting point is 00:59:13 oh that's weird he literally didn't have to say that to his audience at all you could have just been like I'm not religious anymore and keep making conservative content but he felt like I want to be honest and so that's I feel like that started his arc towards becoming progressive because he started looking at things in a you know in an objective
Starting point is 00:59:31 way and making sense of the world. And so I'm like, oh, it was like, mad respect. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've never had a problem with him or anything. But like he was in our, in our circle. I feel like I met him in person at least once. I'm not super sure about that, though, to be honest. But anyway, the point is, this is somebody that we kind of know or somebody that's like, we're kind of familiar with who's in our sphere. And so this guy, he's obviously gone through a political evolution. He's changed a lot over the, over the last several years. And I guess he is in a relationship with somebody
Starting point is 01:00:03 and they were Streamer Yeah some streamer And they were you know together And I guess This streamer's ex-boyfriend Came to their apartment With a fucking gun
Starting point is 01:00:20 And actually like Derek can you pick this up? I really I get overwhelmed when I talk about talk about this because it's so it is so wild it is so wild so wild so i'll just set up just a little bit more where so hunter used to be married you know he got divorced and stuff cool met this new stream he has a girlfriend this girl the streamer i don't remember her name um holly or something like that
Starting point is 01:00:48 is something like that could be wrong had an ex-boyfriend for a long time this guy has obviously major mental health issues he uh fucking she went to go stay with hunter for like a week. He lives somewhere on the East Coast. And they live all the way on the West Coast. That dude air tagged her luggage to know where he lived. Fucking
Starting point is 01:01:12 shows up. Buys a fucking it's crazy. This is also a problem with fucking gun control. Bies a gun with the intent to murder somebody. Easily gets it with no fucking problem. Right? Bies a
Starting point is 01:01:28 shotgun with slugs. Oh, he has multiple ammo, but he specifically used slugs to make sure to kill Hunter. Shows up at the apartment. Fucking, there's a glass door that they have a glass door or whatever at the front door. To get in, he fucking shoots at the bottom of the door. That chick happens to be close by the door. Hunter's already fucking running away. She gets hit by some of the ricochet, right, of the glass.
Starting point is 01:01:55 She didn't get hit by a slug, luckily, because that probably would have blew her fucking leg off. But, like, she's already been interested. by some of that shit. So they go upstairs after that and fucking calling the cops and everything. The cops show up a few minutes later. Dude's having a hard time getting in. Luckily, he didn't just get in. All of a sudden, he's having a shootout with the fucking cops.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Injured a couple of the cops, not fatally or anything. And then once he realized that he was pretty much fucked, he just blows his own head off, essentially. It's the craziest And then there's a little bit of footage That's the thing that like Hunter had this wherewithal So some people found it controversial That he was able to pull out his phone and do this
Starting point is 01:02:42 But I think that's kind of just the culture now People are like I'm more like I grew up without my phone So I'm more a little detached from it Where I don't pull it out right away And sometimes I get upset when I don't Because I'm like fuck That would have been awesome footage to have
Starting point is 01:02:56 but I feel like a lot of people that are younger they're more attached to it and they can do it a little bit easier so I don't think it was it was kind of like natural something crazy is happening and you wanted to document obviously I guess this last moments he thought so
Starting point is 01:03:09 you can see there's footage of you see them on the balcony and then you just hear the cops giving orders and then just a bunch of shots ringing out and it's like it's fucking chilling to like know this person to be kind of somewhat, you know, a few degrees removed from this.
Starting point is 01:03:28 You're like, dude, I know this fucking guy. This guy was this close and inches away from death. That shot was intended for Hunter. He legitimately wanted to kill him. That guy, the ex, was like really disappointed that he hurt the girl because he just wanted to kill Hunter. It's just like the crazy, because, you know, there's been some instances. there's there's that one chick she got shot at like a meet and greed or something she got killed at a
Starting point is 01:03:59 Christina Grimmie yeah that's so is grimmie that shit was so sad bro yeah that was like that was like 2010 like fucking a long yeah it was a while ago and that was that was fucked up but it was very similar what happened to dime dag derrill you know the the guitarist of uh of pantera like where a guy came to the show in 2004 and just shot him and it's like there's some just insane people just doing this shit this was such a meticulously planned thing, like where it's like, okay, air tags and all this
Starting point is 01:04:30 and flew all the way over, whatever the fucking just got all this stuff together. He planned things out and like to, it's so fucking crazy that I'm like, yo, when it comes to doxying and all this shit, man, like, it's like everybody's got to take this shit way more seriously now.
Starting point is 01:04:47 It makes you think about Jack's films. Like where, how fucked up a situation could be because one of her simps could have been that crazy easily. Like, it's just like, it's crazy, man. Yeah, it's, it's fucking honestly, like some of the crazy. Yeah, I saw people having a problem with him recording.
Starting point is 01:05:10 But it's like, I don't know, man. Yeah. What do you fucking, you're already talking to the police. You're already talking to the police. You're, you know, you've done what you have to do. You're definitely not going to run back. in there to get like a weapon when you could just stay where you are or like if he gets in that you could just run away you know like there's there's a number of things that you could
Starting point is 01:05:35 do I don't know man I feel like a lot of people think that they would handle that situation better but the reality is like a lot of those people probably just be dead those people like I don't think you really understand fucking stupid the ones that like they would have pissed their fucking pants and then they would have gotten themselves killed like the the amount of people people that like not just not just the trolls in the comments section that hate um hunter because he's progressive now but like people that i know that like i don't know them personally but i've seen them around i've seen some people like oh they're uh they were saying she like oh you used her as a human shield you did all they like dude some of the craziest somebody um started to go fund me
Starting point is 01:06:18 for a hunter because he wants to move like he wants to obviously move because his place has been compromised and there was a dead fucking body in his front fucking like obviously you would want to remove yourself from that apartment so somebody started a go-futemy for him and like oh how fucking like people were giving him
Starting point is 01:06:36 shit for I'm like this is we're in an era so weird that is so bizarre that is so fucking fake that to give somebody shit like this this dude almost got fucking Swiss cheased and they're making excuses and trying to hate on it. I'm like, bro, if anybody, though, if any, like, say,
Starting point is 01:06:59 if it happened to them or anyone in their family, it's like, would you do the same thing? Would you keep the same fucking energy? You'd be like, oh, how could you use so-and-so as a fucking meat shield? Oh, man, you're trying to raise money so you can fucking move. You're a fucking grifter. I'm like, I don't even, I didn't say anything because it's just, it's just too much. I was just like, yeah, people don't know what words mean anymore. And also just like, I don't People are just weirdly detached. I think it's just the internet doing what it does. Where it's like, oh, I don't know anybody in person.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So, like, I don't know what it's, I don't know what being a human being is like. It's fucking, yeah, I don't know. That was one of the craziest things I think I've ever. That is insane. That shit was some shit. That was a thrill ride, bro. I was not ready to hear any of that shit. I was like, what in darnation?
Starting point is 01:07:44 What in retarnation is going on? Yeah. And as of right now, they seem to be. handling it almost and Hunter released a video a few days ago of recording this and he seemed now he also mentioned in the video
Starting point is 01:08:01 that like he was even kind of surprised himself that he how well he's kind of handling it in a way that it's one of those things that oh maybe it'll hit him harder later or this might be it because I've had traumatic events happen in my
Starting point is 01:08:17 life and I've also thought that like I'm not as bothered as I thought I would be. Or even in situations where I was threatened at gunpoint at one time. And the only thing that bothered me was how far I was away from the person. It was this, I think I mentioned this before because I think I remember saying that it was this chick that went to ASU and her mom pulled up that looked like Drew Carey. Like her mom legitimately looked like Drew Carrey, this fucking bull, fucking flattop haircut.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Well, I guess redneck Drew Carrey because she had. cut off sleeves, but she had this giant fucking hand cannon and I'm like, oh, I'm too far away to even have a chance to do anything. And then that was the only thing that truly bothered me because I felt like if we were point blank or something, I'm like, I'll fucking rest, I'll kill this bitch. I'll fucking, I will end this bitch for even daring
Starting point is 01:09:11 to try to threaten me. But I was probably like 10 feet plus away from her. So I'm like, I'm fuck. You're that far away. You're fucked. If you move to eat, you're fucked. You can't move fast and they can react to shoot you. Yeah, you can't do shit.
Starting point is 01:09:25 So I was just like, that's the only thing that bothered me in that situation when I thought, like when I think about it was like, stupid bitch. But then not really dealing with, I could have easily have been killed. I easily could have been shot if I said the wrong thing or if I reacted in any different way. And I'm not even trying to compare it to his situation. His situation is way more fucked. Infinitely more. It's definitely more traumatizing.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Yeah, without a doubt. It's definitely more traumatizing. Let go a slug. Yeah. hit blood everywhere like it's just like but the fact that he's handling it and her seem to be handling it in a way
Starting point is 01:09:58 that it's like wow the human mind is fucking insane how it could do that sometimes where it's like well that happened I mean honestly when I heard about when I heard about all this happening the first thought that I had was that if I were in a situation like that
Starting point is 01:10:14 and it unfolded the same way I'd be like I'd probably feel pretty I'd probably feel pretty like Oh, foo, all right, well, that guy's gone. You know what I mean? Like, that's not going to be a problem.
Starting point is 01:10:25 You know what I mean? Like, I don't mean to be crass about it, but like I would be like, shut the fuck up, dude. I mean, think about it, statistically. Think about it statistically. What is,
Starting point is 01:10:37 what are the likelihood that anyone, what's the likelihood that anyone is going to try and seek you out to kill you? You know what I mean? Right. Probably like very, that's probably low in it, like, by default. so to know that not only did somebody try to kill you
Starting point is 01:10:54 but they're fucking dead I don't know that's got to bring with it that's got to bring with it some level of comfort where it's like well how likely is this to happen again what are the odds of this how unlucky is Hunter though to think about that because it's not like
Starting point is 01:11:09 it's not like fucking the only reason that guy wanted to kill Hunter is because he started dating his ex that like how unlucky is that like it could have been anyone else and then they happen to bond. And so by that fact, that guy's like, I got to kill you. Damn, Hunter, you really fuck the pooch, didn't you know, I got to murder you.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And I got to say, and I got to look, I feel fucked up saying this. I'll be, I'm be honest, but this is something that like, this is not this specific reason because this is such a wild card, but I'm like, I don't want to date fame. I never, I never wanted to date like the people that are like have a large. following, especially pretty streamers because they have, unfortunately, they have those fucking crazy-ass fans. Even, oh my God, I don't want to say her name, I guess. But someone that we know closely, she had a guy that was like, oh, we're in a relationship
Starting point is 01:12:13 together. and even flew to her country like to like oh hey I'm here kind of a thing she had like a crazy stalker situation and yeah I just don't want to like mention the name I mean I can talk about it of course yeah yeah it's just yeah absolutely I just don't want to like I just don't know it is never really yeah yeah I don't want to put her business
Starting point is 01:12:37 out there like be like oh this is you know that because I don't know if she told everybody or not I really don't know but it's just one of those things that like well Actually, no, she didn't make a video about it, but the point being that how it's way too common. Like the crazy is that. Did you guys see that guy? He went viral. Um, he was a crypto bro.
Starting point is 01:12:57 He, uh, he made his money in the crypto and he gave tens of thousands of dollars to, not Amaranth. This is, um, um, uh, I think she was just, uh, specifically in OnlyFans content creator. I don't think she was a streamer This was some chick I think she was black Like light skin or something She had a she stole a name Her name's like something of
Starting point is 01:13:21 I'm like that's not your real name It's like somebody It's like a celebrity already exists or something I wish I remembered it But there's this bald guy with a big fucking beard and this happened very recently That he He was so obsessed
Starting point is 01:13:35 She leaked all of his text messages And it's the saddest Simpiest shit ever Basically being like I will give you five crypto, like basically hundreds of thousands of dollars if you just respond with me with one word. I'm so obsessed with you. I cannot live without you. It was the most pathetic thing you would ever see.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And all I was thinking is like, someone needs to message that girl and tell her go and hiding fucking now. That guy has millions of dollars. And he already ran in, quote unquote, ran into her in public. and he had those weird Google glass things with the camera and shit so God knows, you know, like what footage he has and scan, you know, who fucking knows. But it's just, I wish I remembered the name so I could easily have you guys pull it up. But I feel like there's enough information to go off with people that are listening that if you don't know about this situation, you'd be like, oh, yeah, I can find it.
Starting point is 01:14:30 But it's so crazy. Read the text messages if you get a chance. That shit is crazy. It's just so unsettling, dude. most pathetic shit you'll ever read in in your life. I don't know if I've ever seen simping to that level before. And that's saying a lot because, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:47 when you work on the internet, you run into this shit every once in a while. It makes me really sad. This is like, it's just like, that's just mental health. That's just people just being mentally ill. Mental health.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Hunter made actually a good point about that. It's like, Jesus Christ, dude. It's, Hunter empathized with that guy actually. He, humanized him after the whole ordeal and was like thinking about like apparently he he tried to actually get help and the people that he reached out to the the professional or something didn't get back to him in time so we actually didn't get any help and which is obviously this whole situation probably could have been avoided if this system if our system are you know obviously our health care system was set up for people to succeed and to be actually treated
Starting point is 01:15:38 Oh, yeah, dude, it's a, it's a, it's a complete fucking joke, especially with, like, mental stuff. Like, I, I, I, I was a young man of color, dude, it's a thug. I had, the thug. He was, looking at problems. I got prescribed fucking, uh, what is it, Adderall for the 80, 80, and I still have not, I still have not. I've only, so I've been to like eight different pharmacies. I think I've told the story on, did I tell the story on the podcast already? I don't remember if I, I think I might have told.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I don't remember one of you. I don't remember. I don't. So, like. basically they can't, pharmacies can't tell you if they have Adderall. Like if you call and ask them, they can't tell you. Like they, I don't know why. I think it's, I think the idea is like, oh, well, they get robbed if they, if they just
Starting point is 01:16:20 give that information out in the open, right? So they will not tell you. You have to have a prescription for that, filed with that pharmacy for them to even tell you if they have it or not. So you have to basically get on the phone with your provider, tell them to send a prescription to this pharmacy, and then you have to wait for however long that takes and then you'll get the message okay okay they have it and then you can call and then you can ask but then sometimes they won't even tell you over the phone sometimes you have to go in person
Starting point is 01:16:46 and they be like hey uh i have a prescription for this and even though they take the prescription they'll be like oh well we don't carry that that medicine here and so i've had to do that about like eight different times and even to the point where it's like i went back to the original pharmacy that i went the first time and got it and and they send out these automatic texts that say like okay, hey, your prescription is being filled, right? Or, hey, we're out of stock. I'll get that message a lot. And then, like, one day, I remember getting,
Starting point is 01:17:14 hey, your prescription is being filled. And I was like, okay, cool. So I book it over there to the pharmacy. The second I get that text, and then they tell me, oh, we don't actually carry this medication. So the entire system is really fucked with this stuff. Because I guarantee you the only reason this stuff is being stolen in the first place is because it's hard for the, it's hard to,
Starting point is 01:17:36 fucking attain. If you could just buy this shit, I don't think people would have a fucking problem. That's so fucking funny. I'm sorry. That's funny as shit, dude. It's ridiculous. The only adderall that I've been able to get, or like the only medicine that I've been able to get is from like friends of mine, like, giving it to me.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Completely fucking illegally. Because I've done everything. Look, I've done everything. Correct. You try. For like the last, for like the last year I've been trying to figure the shit out. and it's still like a really fuck situation so like yeah i mean i granted you know my shit's a lot less like not as high stakes as this is this whatever the fuck's going on with this guy but like the mental
Starting point is 01:18:16 health system is really fucked like it's not it's not a good system at all uh the healthcare system's really fucking backwards and completely fucked up middlemen really fuck everything up so i mean i i i appreciate the fact that he can empathize i i probably on i understand on some level but at the same time i i can't pretend like i wouldn't be like I can't pretend like I can't pretend like I wouldn't be like astoundingly relieved that that guy is fucking gone That's why I'm having my mental health issues, bro I sold off my mental issues I'm fine now You said yeah
Starting point is 01:18:47 Perfect finally I sold all that sure Absolutely I was I was walling for a bit I was bugging for a little while But I got my balance myself out bro Yeah I'm sure you're perfect I feel like you're gonna snap when you're like 50 I think I'm gonna snap no I'm not gonna snap Yeah I think so I think something's you're gonna murder I don't think you're going to murder anybody.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I think you're probably going to like, I think what's going to happen is you're going to, I don't know, you're going to, you're going to publicly urinate and then you're going to get put on the sex offender registry and then that's going to really fuck with you. Because like, you'd be like,
Starting point is 01:19:20 you'd be like, I didn't even do anything wrong. Like I didn't, like what did I do? Like it's so fucked up. I pissed in like a train in between the cars and now I'm like this. Like this is really not fair. This is really not fair.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I think there should I think there needs to be a secondary registry For like if you're going to if you're going to put people on it on a on a on a On a registry for pissing in public I feel like that needs to be separate from a sex offender registry That seems like way too fucking much I don't think that should be on you shouldn't be on for that Like that's just like it's just that's what I mean though
Starting point is 01:19:53 But then I guess you should get in trouble for that You should not be labeled as that Yeah You should be going to fucking fine You get a fine Pissing in public What are you doing? You slap him with a fine
Starting point is 01:20:03 And be like, don't do it again, bitch. Yeah, if you publicly urinate in front of a fucking school at recess, I guess that's different, but that's obvious. Like, the difference to that is obvious. Like, it's wild to me that people get put on that registry for public urination Because I've definitely pissed in the street. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I've seen people, I've been with people who've pissed in the street. I remember being on a date where we were out so late. We were out so late that nowhere was fucking open. And we were like, hey, listen. Some New York shit. That's some New York shit, bro. It happens. You're in the city way too late at night, bro.
Starting point is 01:20:36 You do it. You do it. You're nowhere near your house. First of all, can I say this? Just as straight up, peeing outside is fucking incredible. Like, it is a beautiful feeling. Liberating. Not even just like in a city, but even in just like the fucking woods.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Like, I remember living in, living in upstate New York with my parents. And we just have so much fucking woods. and I remember just being up super late and I was like I could go to the bathroom but I think I'm going to go outside I think I'm just going to go to the woods and go outside because it's just like there is something there man there's like a liberating like whoo
Starting point is 01:21:12 like I'm back to return to monkey type shit going on so I don't know I feel like that shouldn't I feel like that shouldn't be a sex offender thing that's crazy yeah but also if you can put on sex off a hundred
Starting point is 01:21:27 yeah shout out to Hunter Not being put on a sex offender registry. He's not on a sex offender registry. Thank God. He's got a kill under his belt, you know, probably feels pretty good. Do you think, do you think you feel stronger after someone dies because of you? Do you think you feel stronger? I guess it depends on how it happened.
Starting point is 01:21:49 If I had a, if I specifically had a hand in their death, right? Like say, even if I like say I pushed them and then a car hit them or something, but, you They were attacking me. They were attacking me. They were. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:22:05 That's the story you're going to have, though. They attack me. You put somebody in front of a train. I have no desire to murder. He's attacking me. Well, that's not true. That is not true. There's a couple of people.
Starting point is 01:22:16 There's a couple of people. There's a couple of people I would easily push in front of a bus. But only like two or three people. You start giggling. You're like, he he he he. And if you, if you push,
Starting point is 01:22:26 let's say this, right. So if that, If that's the reason, if you had a direct hand in it, so let's say Barack Obama, he's had a lot of drone strut. Someone that's accumulated a lot of kills over their time. If you push that, if you get them,
Starting point is 01:22:41 if you get them in a situation where they pass away, do you then get all that XP? Inherit their power? Yeah. Well, not necessarily because you got to think of it. That's not how anything's like dark souls or anything. When you kill these,
Starting point is 01:22:56 you kill these ads, you kill these minions or whatever, that have probably killed a lot of different people, but you don't absorb, like, all of their history of what they've done, which I feel like I would like that. I feel like I like the thought of that. Could you imagine the transformation you'd undergo? Like, I'm getting so strong.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. If you killed Henry Kissinger and you just, like, what would become of you? You would start gloat. You light would come out of your mouth, eyes and nose. Dude, yeah. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, no one can stop you at that point. So, yeah, in some, and see people fucked up because no one, no one killed them.
Starting point is 01:23:43 He just, he just, uh, died of natural causes. Sorry, no one could kill him because of how strong he was by that point. Thank you. His help part goes off screen, man. His health is on a different, you need an ultra, you need an ultra, you need an. Ultra wide monitor to see his health bar. He picks up his weapon and his health bar starts going in. Like, oh, it's going to stop.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Wait, I don't know where, you know, when Dragon Ball Z, the Budakai games where like it goes from like green, yellow to green, to red, to blue to white. It's like, what up now? Fuck, how many goddamn lies this fucking boss have? It's crazy. What the fuck, Kissinger. Jesus shit. You had to wait.
Starting point is 01:24:26 You had the way to like to the can. answer O.T. K to him. That's it. That's it. That's it. I am. Before we get into questions, I do want to say. Oh, yeah. I'm really, since you brought up Budakai, I'm just, I'm really excited. I'm really excited about that new Budakai game. Yeah. I'll bring that up. Yeah. I'm just, I'm so stoked. I'm so stoked that's real.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Stupid name that they've chosen, but it's okay. Let's move on. I'm excited for the cast, bro. I want to play his beast. and shit, man. Oh, yeah, Bees Gohan. I want to see O'Drons and go, Goku in that kind of setting. Because we've seen them in games, but I want to see them in that kind of setting
Starting point is 01:25:08 where, like, they get to do all those cool, like, sway moves. I remember the sway ability in Teng Kaiichi being so, or Boutich, being so cool, while you're just like moving out the way, then they hit you back and you go flying. Yeah. God, I love those games.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I hope, I hope Kid Buk still has his completely broken combo. that just let you get like 200. The one where you like, it was like a couple punches and then he flipped upside down and kicked you in the head and then he would like trip you
Starting point is 01:25:37 and then he would like beat you up and then he would send you up in the air and then he would do that combo over and over again. I fucked people up with that character. It was so mean. Like nobody wanted to play with me and I get it.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Anyway, let's move on. The billboard, the billboard posted on KSI's massive fucking forehead wrote in. He says, What's up, Dinkus, Krenkis, and sweetest sween. Did you all know
Starting point is 01:25:58 that the girl who played Cindy Lou Who, Taylor Momson, in Jim Carrey's Grinch, grew up to be the lead singer of a hard rock man called The Pretty Reckless. Stay insufferable, you fucking, God, I hate you guys. Well, all right, let's, that's, that's really me. She was also a gossip girl. I didn't know that. I knew that she had a band.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I knew, I know the Pretty Reckless. One of my exes used to listen to them a lot, and she actually got me into them. It's kind of nuts. Like, that's a weird thing to me. Like, I get it. People get older, but it's, So I'll put it this way.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Do you guys remember Full House? Do you guys remember how they had a Full House reboot that was called Fuller House? Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember specifically when the first episode that came out,
Starting point is 01:26:40 I watched it out of sheer curiosity. I was like, what the fuck is this gonna be? Like, what era are we in that we're doing this now? And the first episode, you see Stephanie, and she's in this ridiculous dress,
Starting point is 01:26:53 this absurd, like, would just black hat-looking, like, just, Like, and like an absurd, like, yeah, with these fucking cannons on her. And I'm like, I can't watch this. I can't. This feels fucking weird. I understand.
Starting point is 01:27:07 I understand that this is a grown woman. I don't, I don't have that. I don't have that in my fresh shoe because Stephanie, every period of time I've ever watched that show, she has been older than me. I understand that. So for me, it's just like, yeah. Nice. No, I, I, I really could use some milk with my. my cereal, you know?
Starting point is 01:27:30 I get that. It's just like, it's just weird because like this person has existed in such a specific way in my brain for so long and now they're this and it's like a really sudden, it's a sudden shift. And there's a similar thing with Taylor. There's a similar thing with Taylor Momsom's in a way different way though because like, I mean, the Grinch is one movie. And at this point, I think I've been exposed to more of the pretty reckless than I have
Starting point is 01:27:52 the Grinch. And so to me it's like, okay, well, this is a full woman. This is a woman now. hot, cool, this is dope. I appreciate this. Yeah. But it is still fucking weird. It is a jarring shift to go from singing,
Starting point is 01:28:06 Where Are You Christmas to, you know, any of the songs that she sings now. It's pretty fucking weird. She does a song with Tom Morello, too, that I didn't actually listen to, but I saw it and I was like, whoa, what the fuck? But, yeah, it's, I don't know. It's, I did know this. It has always fascinated me. Is there, are there any other examples like this where they're just like child stars that grew up to just do shit that made no fucking sense?
Starting point is 01:28:34 Like, does anything like ring a bell to you when you think about that? I like there's a bunch. I mean, fucking. Specifically to child stars though. I mean, I think about, you know what? I think about a lot. I think I think about this a lot because it was me and my friend Rob would watch this show and we loved. This is back when I was really into trash TV like in high school.
Starting point is 01:28:55 and I would watch like VH1 like I would watch I Love and Rock of Love and Flavor of Love and all those fucking stupid like I would watch the shadow of those just absolute garbage but I still remember so fucking much of it I remember chance on I love New York saying
Starting point is 01:29:10 I'm gonna cut you I remember all these like moments like very specific Do you remember that I remember that shit too because like I just remember being so out of pocket he's just threatened to cut someone on fucking television that's nuts but so we were watching these shows and celebrity fit club was one of the shows that we just couldn't get enough we were just laughing
Starting point is 01:29:31 so hard as like look at all these fucking washed up celebrities trying to get unfat this is hilarious and dustin diamond screech from saved by the bell was on it and he was an absolute menace on that show he was a demon like i think he literally like tried to be the villain of the show like intentionally yeah and he just made everybody was his enemy he was such a dick he was so cocky and annoying, so snarky for no reason. But he was snarky in the way that a 17-year-old would be, but he was like 36 or something or like however old the fuck he was like 40 or something. Did he recently die?
Starting point is 01:30:09 He died a couple, he died many years ago now at this point. Dustin Diamond. But it's so funny, when he died, I didn't think of him as like, oh, Screech, I thought of him as, oh, fucking celebrity, celebrity fict club, the demon in celebrity things. club he had a sex tape too that was like oh my god what the fuck was it was it called saved by the smell
Starting point is 01:30:30 no way are you serious yeah it's called saved by the smell did you watch a day no because he talked about it and it was called like there was like a dirty Sanchez scene or something like that like you don't forget you like that's so heinous that's saved by the smell
Starting point is 01:30:46 saved by the smell yeah I won't fucking lie man like you don't you don't forget things like that you know would you have something that is a play on of the fucking show that he was like I'm like, you don't forget that. Like, saved by the phone. There's also a movie.
Starting point is 01:30:58 There's also a movie. Oh, Dustin Diamond reveals sex tape penis was fake in 2014. I mean, come on. Whatever. There's, I didn't, I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. But like, I didn't see it. I look up, I look up Dustin Diamond sex tape and something comes up on IMDB called
Starting point is 01:31:15 Screeched Video 2006. Screeched. And it says, screeched. It says screeched directed by Dustin Diamond with the bride, the bridesmaid, Dustin Diamond, Christine Fanky, Dustin Diamond, and the plot synopsis is Dustin Diamond has sex with two women.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I fucking love this, how complex. That's so awesome. That is so stupid. You know what I just remembered right now? What? I just remembered that there was a girl
Starting point is 01:31:51 named Claire and her friend, Heather in my high school. and one of them I don't remember which one but they wrote an actual sex a porn scene it was very
Starting point is 01:32:03 what do you call it stereotypical pizza type shit and like they're like yo you want to like fucking you want to like do this and I'm like yeah that's badass but like
Starting point is 01:32:14 there's supposed to be another guy in it and I'm like I don't know fucking I don't know if I want to work with any other niggas man so my friend Josh used to bang the shit Claire, but I guess he got
Starting point is 01:32:26 in some trouble, so he was gone. And there was this guy that he's such a weirdo. And they're like, oh, we heard we're going to get this. He was the goth. He was goth. And they're like, I was friends with him. We actually even jammed a little bit, but they're like, oh, let's get this guy. And I was like, I'm out. I am, the
Starting point is 01:32:44 fact that like, I completely forgot this even existed. But like, the fact that like, I was like, oh, this is going to be fun. I'm just going to do some crazy shit with some chicks. And then this fucking weirdo got through that apparently had he was literally shorter than you but had apparently had this legendary giant people like I was like bro I'm not I'm fucking the whole thing was ruined by
Starting point is 01:33:03 and it just reminded me that oh yes porn scene a plot it's funny that that was even something that like my childhood was fucking weird dude like there was just some stupid what an excuse to like who does that childhood who even like well you know I was in high school
Starting point is 01:33:22 I was a fucking, I was high school. All right, right. Every moment like that, I would say yes, get really close to doing something like that and then just not do it. And then so many moments like that where I'm like, yeah, I'll do that. Like, this is a good idea. Like, and you start rep yourself up and then you take one moment and you think. You take one moment of like serious constructive thought and you're like, I'm not going to go bang one of my teachers. I shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I shouldn't be going to. I shouldn't be going to my Spanish teacher. even close. I got very, very, very, very close. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And I chose not to. And I think I would have been a teacher. Was it a straight up teacher? Was it like a student teacher? She was, you know, students were like younger and shit?
Starting point is 01:34:07 She was a Spanish teacher, a black Latina Spanish teacher who was very attractive. Any of my friends that watched this from high school are going to know because she banged other students and I could have been one of them. And I was just like,
Starting point is 01:34:20 I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do this. That's crazy. You just had like a pedophile working at your school It's a while Yeah, dude I'm scared It came out
Starting point is 01:34:29 It came out and I was just like I should She was fucking fine And I was just like Did that come out? Did that did that did it come out It very much so came out Very much so came out Is she in prison?
Starting point is 01:34:42 I don't know about it Probably not Probably not Probably not She probably got incarcerated for a while A little bit Women aren't allowed to be peters She probably got probation
Starting point is 01:34:49 She probably got probation It's kind of just societally, that's how people treat it. It's kind of crazy. It really is fucking insane to me. Like the level of I really don't, I don't know, man. That is something about, there's something about that that really is
Starting point is 01:35:04 so infuriating to me on like a deep level where it's like they, as a group, they just they don't yeah. I don't know, I can't fathom it. Like that's a pedophile. Like that's objectively a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:35:20 By a by a Sure, objectivity. By definition, yes. But the one thing that is so obvious why society doesn't give a shit is because of the power dynamic. Even, even like, even like, and what I mean by that, I'm talking about real power and strength. Where it's like a boy is supposed to still be like a man in this scenario. So they don't see it as the woman taking advantage. Like they don't, they have a hard time trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:35:50 when, you know, because like even the like say the boys the boys that, you're right about I'm talking about, well think about, think about I mean, think about it from the perspective of the how many women do you know, sorry, not women. What I mean is girls, high school girls. How many high schools
Starting point is 01:36:06 do you know would be bragging to all their home girls that like, yeah I'm, I fucking, I fuck the shit out of, you know, this teacher versus you know, the male counterparts that obviously are celebrating the fuck out of that. Just societally, people have made it in this way to be told the excuse
Starting point is 01:36:22 After you do that bro Your homies are like yo you're not paying for anything today dog We got you you're to go It's like damn You did die good fellow like the way that Tossing you up bro It's so toxic They're tossing you into the sky
Starting point is 01:36:35 Meanwhile you're trying to figure out what you just did And really understand that something something Kind of wrong this happened And your homies are dancing with you bro I feel like you wouldn't figure that out until You start to get around that person's age like fuck Like what was like what the fuck was I thinking? The fuck was I really thinking.
Starting point is 01:36:53 It's the ability to reflect, you know, because it's like You just you have a moment to sit down and think and you're like Dang, that's kind of crazy. That was a grown ass adult. Yeah. That's it. The moment you become an adult like for real mentally, that's when that shows up. But you're like, when you're that age especially like when you're the age of the people.
Starting point is 01:37:15 You know what I mean? Like when I'm 30 now. So like now it's like, oh man, I can't even fucking imagine. I can't even fucking imagine How do you think I was, dude, I was 13 foot for the, like, fucking 26 year old and shit like that. And now I look back
Starting point is 01:37:30 and I'm like, yeah, see, that's dude, thank God they have like self-respect. Thank God. Because like, that's very well. What the fuck was I thinking? Well, how do you think you would have behaved? How do you think you would have
Starting point is 01:37:43 because like were you, because, you know, obviously most teenagers in general all talk a big game. It's all bullshit. Of course. But there are a handful of them that mentally, maybe because of trauma in their past,
Starting point is 01:37:59 grow up way faster than most people, and they can handle shit like that. But how do you think you would have handled that? Say, for example, just 25-year-old teacher and you're fucking 16, y'all smash. Do you think that would affect you today? Or do you think that, like, you probably would just reflect on and be like, well, that's fucked up? I don't know, man. Young, because the thing of this, it's hard to say, right?
Starting point is 01:38:19 but I guess young me I've had a very traumatizing experience having sex the first time it was definitely a very like not thanks thanks for laughing at me you suck Derek holy shit Derek bro you're so lucky ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha look I'm lucky you're so lucky I've worked through this you're so lucky this something I worked through on my own or I would be like what the fuck Look, I'm not a therapist. Loser. First and foremost.
Starting point is 01:38:53 I, look, my first encounter was not good, but I, it's it. You guys are fucking con, con, stog. Oh, my God. So, so I want to say, this is my, I'm, my, I'm still immature. I'm still immature. My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my mind immediately. You have sex trauma. Yes.
Starting point is 01:39:15 My immature mind is immediately in a snap. instant is this picturing you like, I don't know, crying and like, like, you're getting your dick suck and you're like crying or something. So. So it's not coming out of my nose. It's like, I know you've mentioned this before, though. Did you, did you, did you, I don't remember if you shared what happened, what made it so traumatic.
Starting point is 01:39:44 I definitely did. I'm pretty sure. But, um, yeah. My first time I thought about somebody was definitely like kind of very, much so like not I wouldn't want to say force because she didn't like three force something me but it was very much so I wasn't ready and I was kind of vocal about like obviously you talk a big game and you're like uh I don't know if I want to do then she was like let's just let's just do it and I was like I don't really want to and she's like let's just let's just come on let's
Starting point is 01:40:11 let's like there's no better time do it than now and I was like okay and then I did it and I did not have a good time at all. And then, like, my cousin picked me up. I called my cousin from prom. He picked me up, and I cried to him about it. And he was just, like, damn, bro. Because my cousin's a thug. So he was just, like, do fucking piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:40:29 My cousin's, like, a super thug. He's like, super thuggish. So he was just like, yo, I don't, I didn't like banging girls. Does that make me gay? And he was like, nigga, I don't know, nigga. He was like, nigga. Like, nigga, I don't think you're gay, nigga. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:40:42 You buggy, nigga. Come on. Like, dude. he couldn't accept that at all either he's like come on get the fuck out of it with that shit no no he was he was just like he was this like niggas weird nigga like just go on it's just weird sometimes that's like he's like that's exactly
Starting point is 01:40:57 he was speaking to me too he was in like his super hoodlum phase his life because he was like maybe like he was maybe like 19 first year of college and he was just like man you just shit happens on you know like you're just bugging you just going to figure out what you're trying to do my this is interesting it is yeah
Starting point is 01:41:13 it's, I don't know man Like getting It's weird to be like Yeah I don't really want to do this and then Have that argued Yeah get roped into it Yeah I've definitely had that experience like many many times It was like yeah I don't really want to do this and it's like
Starting point is 01:41:29 And it's like 30 minutes of convincing And it's like I've been I've been technically See the way Do you see how conditioned I am? Exactly I totally know you mean I have literally have literally have been a song
Starting point is 01:41:43 If you want, let me be with my real actual words. It just, the way I'm conditioned, it doesn't feel real to me, but it is real. I have, I have to get up at work early in the morning. Chick did not take no for an answer. Pulled my pants down and went to work kind of a thing. Completely uninterested, passed out while I was doing it because I was that fucking tired. and how I it's just it's weird man
Starting point is 01:42:15 it's it's it's it's the dichotomy is kind of fucked up dude it's weird but I'm at the same time I wouldn't count that but let me say this let me say this real quick most guys that I have ever known have experiences like this absolutely a million percent I have I have not spoken with one person who has not had an experience
Starting point is 01:42:32 like that and it's just it is just you know we don't take it seriously we do not it's fascinating I do not. That's like a fascinating thing. My language was going to be like, I have a hard time even saying admitting it. Right, because you don't want to call it that because that's a heavy thing to call it.
Starting point is 01:42:54 And if you're conflicted about it, then that's like a whole other thing where it's like, I don't know. It feels almost disrespectful. Yeah. It feels, even though it literally is the same thing, it feels almost like it's not. And that's probably just because of conditioning. Well, we definitely don't, we definitely don't allow that to be true in some way. Like, I remember reading a statistic a long time ago where it's like, and I remember feeling immediately like it was bullshit where it's like one in, or like three and five. I don't remember the exact statistic, right?
Starting point is 01:43:30 But it was like three in three and four women or three and five women experienced sexual assault. And you know what that statistic is for men? zero and I remember being like that's not true. That's crazy. That is crazy. That is crazy. No, but that was a,
Starting point is 01:43:49 that was a believed thing. Like in 2016, 2015, anytime before that, that was like a unanimously agreed upon thing where it's like, yeah, men don't get sexually. Like,
Starting point is 01:43:57 that was a genuine fact to most people. And I remember thinking that, dude, would chimpanzee believe that? I think it's like, passively people just like, well, yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:07 yeah. I think people just passively believed it literally most people thought that like i remember being taught that in like a class like and i remember feeling like that doesn't see i feel like that's not really i've never i've never experienced i feel like i feel like what that is is a lot of men don't talk about that stuff and a lot of men don't identify it as that stuff but if we're talking about like the ingredients if we're talking about the ingredients of a situation of what makes up that kind of experience every man i've ever known has had that experience And quite frankly, every woman I've known has had that experience as well.
Starting point is 01:44:42 It's like a unanimous kind of experience that a lot of people have in some way, shape, or form or another. And that's depressing, but it's actually, but it's real. A lot of fucking monsters. And I remember really like, oh, you're just trying to, you're trying to diminish it. It's like, no, I don't think three and four, three and five women experience sexual assault. I think probably the overwhelming majority of them do. And I think a shocking degree of men do too as well. And this is just, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:45:05 I think people underreport it, men especially, because, why the fuck it's just that's just an emotional can of worse that happens but you're a bitch i'm gonna tell you right now if i and no one takes it seriously if i went if i went for a walk today and some fucking freak jumped me and fuck my ass i probably wouldn't tell anybody it's it's it's it's such a it's just like it's just somebody you would tell somebody you got beat up though right you'd you'd probably i got jumped i would tell yeah i would definitely you know what's crazy know it's crazy if you told me that Derek I would not want to but I'd
Starting point is 01:45:43 fear giggle I'm like what I'm saying it's so wild that like I'm like I know because even me though it would be so fucked up that I would have to laugh about it if I ever talked about it because of how just
Starting point is 01:45:58 the way like I talk about conditioning how absurd it seems to me because we take it we don't take it seriously fucking chuckle some nigga like giggling his ass off, fucks you. And you gotta be like, you gotta go to the police and be like, officer, this guy laughing maniacally pulled my pants down and fucked me. And the cops gonna be like, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Get the fuck out of here. The cops gotta laugh too. He's gonna be like, yeah. They fucked you. You, Kingston, 6-3. They held you down. It fucked you. Hard, hard.
Starting point is 01:46:36 And it's like you. It's. Listen to me laugh Just the scenario of it And it's like We got we We have to do better They did
Starting point is 01:46:47 They did Yeah We definitely We're not the generation That's going to solve this I'm not the generation I have hope for Gen Z Because I feel like
Starting point is 01:46:56 There's so much more Open about Like I mean there's a There's a wave of Gen Zers That for example Are not afraid to paint their
Starting point is 01:47:08 your nails and toenails and stuff. And they're not afraid. They don't feel emasculated. I'm glad we can finally do that, bro. Thank God. Like, it's something that, well, personally, like, I just, it doesn't look, it's not an aesthetic for me, but I've had friends that have been in the metal industry that have painted their nails and stuff like that, like black and stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:25 And I'm like, yeah, fine. And but I've seen so many people open, towed, younger, and they're doing stuff like that and other examples, too, that they seem less constricted by, like, I don't want to that I don't want to appear I don't want to seem gay I guess yeah yeah yeah like they don't give a shit really
Starting point is 01:47:45 and I'm like I have hope that That's good We didn't do we didn't do a job I will beat you up though If I see you with With painted fingernails in my house But I'll beat you the fuck to death
Starting point is 01:47:54 Oh But I'm happy to be comfortable I want to do that I want to paint my fingernail That shit is cool I can't I can't care Pussy
Starting point is 01:48:04 I can't care about it Like Do a pussy? I don't think I have a problem with it? You think I won't do it? That's crazy. That is insane. French tips. French tips and then paint them. No, no. I'm not doing French tips. Well, he's having a color on your nails. It's fucking sick. There's more expression. I think that's cool.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I guess to me, I don't like, I don't like fingernails in the first place. I don't like the nail. People that are queer. That's the same. There's something. I don't like queerness. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't like that. I don't, there's something. When I think too much about. what a nail is, it really bothers me. Like, I don't like that they're there at all. So I don't like the idea of drawing attention to them.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Like, it's, it doesn't appeal to me at all. Like, I would have no interest in painting. Also, because, like, you have to sit there and, like, wait for it to dry. And it's like, it's a whole fucking process. I don't need this. But it's not, and nail polish remover smells like diarrhea to me, too. Like, I can't fuck with that shit. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 01:49:01 I like it. It makes my head loopy. Makes my brain. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not about that. life, but like, hey, fair play, fair play. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:49:12 We got to do questions, dude. Yeah, we got to do questions. We, we, what did we do? It's a Christmas episode. It's a Christmas episode, so obviously we're going to get into sexual assault. You know, why wouldn't we? Were there any teachers that, like, because I, I got to be honest. I got to be completely straight up here.
Starting point is 01:49:34 I don't, like, there were, there was at least one teacher in my school that I was like, I mean I would have no issue Middle school I would have Middle school Middle school obviously no chance
Starting point is 01:49:48 We're in middle school They're in middle school Crazy That's not That's insane That's You're not Latin America Bro
Starting point is 01:49:54 In Latin America Middle school Does be putting in work bro My uncles My uncles have Sost up so many of the teachers At like fucking 11 And I'm like
Starting point is 01:50:03 That's insane I hate hearing about Like different cultures That's insane You hear about how common this shit is and in a lot of other cultures and I'm like I don't want to I don't want to talk about you're going to the shit I've heard about so often I'm saying I don't have I have two aunts that are 12 years older than their kids have two aunts like that my god
Starting point is 01:50:26 their kid they are 36 and their kid is 23 24 two of them and then one is like and then one is like 40 and a kid is like 30 That's like old school shit man And it's disgusting Dude They're pretty much siblings Oh you can uh You you uh you're bleeding
Starting point is 01:50:47 Well I guess we can fucking impregnate you now And I'm like dude That's so fucking yeah it's insane Dark man that's what they used to do back the day But um yeah yeah But no I was saying in high school There was a student teacher in my graphics class That would show up every once in a while
Starting point is 01:51:02 And every guy was like Would break their neck because she had She was like, she was some fucking random white chick, but she had the fattest ass. It was like, what is happening? It was like, everyone was like. Look, that happens. That will have. Now, to be clear, if she would have done, if I would have had that opportunity with that teacher, she still would have been a massive creep.
Starting point is 01:51:30 That's very creepy. Sure. Still. Absolutely. Absolutely. That doesn't change. But I do think, like, I don't know, like, would it bother me? today, no.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Like me personally, like if I had gone through that, I don't, I don't think so. I don't think it would bother me. I think it would have bothered you, Kingston. I think it would have bothered you. I would have bothered me for sure, but I would have done it. I was the thing. I think I would have done it. I would like, the thing about me is that like post, post like my going through and becoming
Starting point is 01:51:57 a not becoming a virgin, after that, like, that few years until I like moved here and Lily's rewired my mind and it's like how would I hell through relationships should be, at least as healthy as I relationship is. Yeah. Before that, I was whaling. I was, I was, was, walling out. I was, like, doing shit I shouldn't have been doing. But, like, after, like, because that teacher was before I was, like, I lost my everyday.
Starting point is 01:52:23 I was, like, maybe, like, 15. And I was like, I should just go. I should go. I should go over there. I should do this. And then I thought about it. I was like, I'm too scared to do this. If she would have offered me to that to me right after I took.
Starting point is 01:52:36 17. I'd be like, oh yeah, it's jackpot. It's time. It's time. I would have stopped out of Walmart, got my equipment, and I would have went over there with no problem at all, dude. My equipment. I would have got all my tools and weapons, and I would have to go about that. But
Starting point is 01:52:51 let's get out of some other question. Chris. That's another trauma I don't need. I don't need it. Yeah, probably. Fair enough. Yeah, probably would. I mean, who am I kidding? Probably would have a thing. Whatever. Chris, you broke ass
Starting point is 01:53:02 crayon eating no brain have a Titan player. Hello. Salvation's grip, I guess. Colony and Darcy. If someone asks you ask what your favorite songs are, is it socially acceptable to answer with video game music?
Starting point is 01:53:21 No. No, it's not. If your favorite song is video... I love video game music. Make no mistake. In fact, they're like my preferred listening generally, like when I'm throughout the day and working. But if your favorite song is a video game song,
Starting point is 01:53:34 like I don't... You're fucking crazy. I feel like it would only work if because people usually expect you to answer with the song that has lyrics in it. And so it would have to be like say like that snake eater shit or something. Like it's a proper song. Like. Yeah. I think like in someone told you that their favorite song was snake eater though.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Like well, that's so wild. I would think they're lying. I would think they're lying. That's how I would feel. Of course they're lying. Like oh, you're trying to say a quote. answer. Like you're trying to be that guy. Like I always
Starting point is 01:54:12 feel like about those hipster types that say some shit like that where I'm like... Yeah, or like fucking what is it? What is it? When was it Vivek Ramoswami was like or what was it one of the... I can't remember if it was him or somebody else. But like one of the other, one of the conservative people when they were like
Starting point is 01:54:28 here's my Spotify list or whatever and one of them had like Mozart. Shut the fuck up. You're not listening to Mozart. Some people do, right? Some people listen to Mozart, right? All right, yeah. I'll put on some Mozart and some Bach and some shit everyone as well.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Because some people are class, like, some people are, they're like, if you're claimed, if you're trained classically, you'll listen to that shit. You actually like it. If that's like actually the kind of music, you train. But your friend Ron isn't fucking listening to Mozart. He's not, like, what is my good friend's old roommates? Honestly, can I say, can I say, can I say? say something? Can I say something? If I went to your house
Starting point is 01:55:09 one day and I opened the door and you were sitting there in silence listening to like fucking Moonlight Sonata or something, I would leave. I would leave. I would not continue the day. It does feel a little weird. It does feel a little weird. Like you're just sitting down
Starting point is 01:55:25 on the couch and the light sonatas playing. And you're just like, what? You fucking like Beethoven's from? I don't like, I don't know. Like, I like, I like, like songs like let me lose it like it's the dance macabre like i like that song right good song but i don't listen to that shit like if i'm writing if i'm like if i got to get into a real like imaginative mindset i'll
Starting point is 01:55:47 put that shit on now right to it what did you say dance macabre oh dance mac oh a ghost huh is that from ghost or who's that we talking about no it's some freaking what to our st john chan camille st john there's like an old it's old timey music it's old oh wait wait wait wait hold dude don't tell hold on hold on a second i might have said it right wrong. No, no, no, you're probably right. You're probably right. But Dance Maccob is a song by ghost. But like Dance MacCob is a song by ghost. It's also
Starting point is 01:56:14 it's also an album by Duran at an album called Dance Maccob. But Jesus Christ. Okay. Then there's like Swan Lake. You know how every once in a while you realize songs are covers? I almost thought I just got my mind blown right now. That's what I always. But like those are like those
Starting point is 01:56:30 I was the most recent one of those. It was like, oh, like. I heard myself. We talked about on the podcast that you got... Oh, oh, oh, uh, Black Magic Woman by Fleetwood Mac. Oh, right, yeah, that's that, yeah, because I literally had no idea. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:56:44 That's still crazy. That's still crazy to me. Yeah. Almost makes me feel like Santana's a fraud. Don't say that. That is crazier to me. That is crazier to me than ACDC being Australian. You know, like I didn't know that for the longest time.
Starting point is 01:56:57 And that was, that was not as shocking, but that's not as shocking as funny out black magic was by fucking... I would say, I would agree with you. I think that is a little more shocking because to me, because to me, when I think of Santana, I do think of black magic woman, now I have to erase that from my memory and think of smooth smooth, yeah, I think it's...
Starting point is 01:57:13 So, let me yeah, I don't know, man, like, if your favorite, it's weird for your favorite song to be video game music, but I mean, like, it's fine, I guess, like, it's, you're not committing a crime, I just think it's weird for, like, even even for classical stuff, like, it's like, oh, hey, my favorite song is, um, the
Starting point is 01:57:31 entertainer by Scott Joplin, and it's like, that's, that's, crazy. That's crazy. If that's your favorite song, that's crazy. But I don't agree. Exactly. It depends on how it's in the music. Some people don't listen to like some people listen to classical.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Yeah, they're outliers. The motherfuckers. The entertainer. Like, look, okay. Okay, maybe not the entertainer. Okay, maybe not the entertainer. But like, but like people listen. Not that. That's this ice cream music. That music, all it does it alert me is ice cream truck near. That's it.
Starting point is 01:58:10 That is a psycho's favorite music. That is, yeah. It's like, can we come over my house? We can listen to The Entertainer Five Hour Loop. What kind of child? What kind of child would you develop if you played that music of them when he went to bed? It would have to be like a very cheery, happy kid, or they would be fucking scary. Oh, there's, no.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Because it might be a happy kid. I'm like, oh, this song makes me happy. They're American psycho. They're American psycho. I remember dancing to the song when I was little. Let's be real. They would be a dangerous. His little dance is him stabbing a dog.
Starting point is 01:58:44 That's his little dance. It's him stabbing his fucking doll. I really, I really want, now that I've mentioned this, I want to have sex to the entertainer. I want to have like a normal playlist going. I want to have a normal playlist going just for one song,
Starting point is 01:59:00 just for the lead up, like the four play. is like maybe like, I don't know, one five-minute song, and then it goes into the next song, and it's like during full, full-on, it's Scott Joplin's the entertainer on the, on the original ragtime piano, too, not even like a remaster or like a modern version. Good old piano. Yeah, dude. That would be.
Starting point is 01:59:23 That's fucking ragtime piano. Yeah. I love that. That's sick as fuck. That's sick as fuck. Like in the middle of your playlist. That's so awesome. Like it's just all normal background ambiotties.
Starting point is 01:59:32 And then I was like it's amazing. It's like, it's like sex tape by deaf tones. Yeah. And then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the entertainer. That's awesome. You're like stroking her up good.
Starting point is 01:59:48 And then like all of a sudden that comes on and you start like, you start getting silly in the bedroom. Like you get on top her. You're like, there's a moment you're dancing on her back. And she doesn't know how you got there, but you're like dancing on the back juggling. And then all of a sudden you're back to do. know what you're doing.
Starting point is 02:00:04 It's like... It's that drawing of... It's that famous image from the Dr. Seuss book of like the cat in the head on the ball. That's like... That's your attitude. That is the vibe that you are fucking exuding. You're just silly. You're just at the point where you've hit terminal silly.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Everything's a joke and a laugh. Everything sounds like you're spinning a fucking little propeller hat on your head. Everything's going nuts. What if you do the complete opposite, though? What if you're like, you're hitting her really, you're beating it up? And then that shit kicks in. You just fucking actually sensually start kissing her inner thighs and stuff. And you start, like, really sensually, like, playing with her.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Like, you know, you really try to set it like some slow jams are on it. And she's like, what the fuck's happening? You're like, shh, shh. And you try to make as sensual as possible. He somehow dim the lights even more and shit. of all that shit is fucking you know what I would love to do
Starting point is 02:01:07 you know what I would love to do I would love to do I would love to do that and then all of a sudden like the lights flicker and there's a clown in the corner of the room like a clown
Starting point is 02:01:18 of the room and just scared I'm afraid of clowns I'm afraid of clowns but that would scare Lily more than it would scare me it would scare her way more
Starting point is 02:01:28 there's like there's a clown in here honk and the lights flicker immediately again and it's gone. And he's just like, what was that?
Starting point is 02:01:35 And I'm like, what do you mean? One of my biggest regrets, I think, was when we live together. When we live together, I never, me,
Starting point is 02:01:42 Jalen and Joe had like this idea that we would, we were going to rent, or not rent, but like buy clown costumes. And then just like, wake you up in the middle of the night screaming.
Starting point is 02:01:55 And we never did it. And my biggest, I think my biggest regret is that I didn't, we never did that. That's insane. Because I just, that would have been amazing. footage if you had it.
Starting point is 02:02:03 I would have ate one of you guys. I would have ate one of you guys and now would have just been in. I would have just went to jail. I would have harmed one of my friends for no reason and I would have went to jail for cannibalism. And what happened? Oh yeah. My friends decided just as clowns and I bit one of their throats out. And now I'm here.
Starting point is 02:02:22 You have to admit, though, if like, if that footage existed, it would probably be, like, that would be like a really viral clip. You would have created a Columbine version of myself. I would have lost my mind. I would have just became dark ending Kingston. That's it. It's Columbine Kingston. Here he is. That's my dark urge ending.
Starting point is 02:02:43 It would have just been like the bad ending for Kingston. That's your Mr. Scratch. Crimson Rodden. Crimson Rodin. He says, hello, Moly and Curly, I guess. Oh, the three stooges, right. Incredible. The three F-slers.
Starting point is 02:03:01 I like how. this person's Crimson, you're clearly 30 plus years old and I know that. I know that purely because you know who the Three Stooges are. You don't even thought to make that reference. It is crazy, by the way, that we even know who the Three Stooges are when you consider how fucking ancient
Starting point is 02:03:17 they are even to us. But regardless. Not a question, but a follow-up. If you thought Miles was getting absurd, you'll absolutely love Japanese Spider-Man, especially the story of his mech. I have seen that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:34 I don't like it. That shit's cool as fuck. You know what's even better? Italian Spider-Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What does he do? What's... If you haven't seen Italian...
Starting point is 02:03:43 Oh, my God. Does he spin pasta, actually? If you have... No, so Italian Spite... So there's this... I can't remember what the name of the studio is. I forgot it's been too many years. But they also made a series called Danger Five.
Starting point is 02:03:57 And they actually... And they actually used to be on Netflix, which it was shocking to me. that they actually got on Netflix for a while. But Danger 5 is one of my favorite things of all time. Please go check it out if you haven't seen it. But they made Italian Spider-Man before that. And I'll just put it this way.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Spider-Man looks like Ron Jeremy with a shotgun. I'm just going to put it in that. That's all I need to say. I totally forget. That's so funny. I love Danger 5. Danger 5 is fucking incredible. Do you know how I found Danger 5?
Starting point is 02:04:28 I found so I knew about Italian Spider-Man. and then I didn't know they made anything else after that. All of a sudden, I'm on Tumblr in whatever year 2011, what the fuck it was, whatever year it was, and I see a giff of a fucking dude. No, no, no, no, no. It is a dude with a fucking swastika insignia and a chainsaw, and the chainsaw's on fire.
Starting point is 02:04:54 And it's like one of those, you know, when those dudes are big, like it's like when they fight next and shit. And I was like, what the fuck is this? like it's the craziest thing ever seen. It's great. It's such a great show. It only had two seasons.
Starting point is 02:05:10 But the first season was, it was, Netflix was crazy back then because it also had Kung Fury. They were putting on shit that like, it seems like there was a fan of like just obscure bullshit for a while that was working at Netflix greenlighting stuff
Starting point is 02:05:25 because they don't put stuff like that on there anymore. That was old. Yeah, old school Netflix was crazy. I remember also like 2000, like eight or nine Netflix, the shit you'd find, you'd find all of the,
Starting point is 02:05:35 like, the shit that everybody talks about, but you'd find, like, absurd stuff on there, too. They were just like, what the fuck is doing on top?
Starting point is 02:05:42 Dude, 2008, you know, they were still, they were still doing, they were still doing, they were doing, they were doing a video.
Starting point is 02:05:48 They were just doing the TV air stuff. They were doing video, but, and I had to convince my mom, like, stop getting, stop mailing in DVDs from net, because Netflix used to,
Starting point is 02:05:59 would, you would rent DVDs from, them. And I was like, mom, you can stream now. Like, I had, I set it up for on her PS3. I was like, for sure 2009. Yeah, you're right. So January 2007 is when Netflix online streaming first came to video. But what was confusing me was it was, it wasn't available on console until 2008. Yeah. I remember Xbox. I remember the Xbox 360 had had Netflix streaming exclusivity for a while. Like I remember that's Yeah, 2010 probably
Starting point is 02:06:32 Yeah Because I remember Yeah Yeah I remember 2010 I was exclusively streaming On Xbox 360 And that's when I saw
Starting point is 02:06:41 Batman the Red Hood And I was like This is the fucking Greatest I was so like I was like man They're really stepping up Their game with animated movies
Starting point is 02:06:47 Because like the Red Hood's still Like one of my favorites With fucking John Diageo The Joker That's a great one That's a great It's fucking great one Yeah
Starting point is 02:06:54 It's like Mask of The Fantasms It's one of my favorite I mean that's classic I wish I would have to see that in the theater, man. Like, they really stand in the fucking theater. Yeah, I never...
Starting point is 02:07:01 Yeah, that would have been nuts. Yeah. But, fuck. Anyway. Yeah. Danger 5 is great. You should definitely watch Danger 5 if you haven't watched Danger 5. It has this very...
Starting point is 02:07:11 100%. I don't know how to... There's no way to explain it. You just have to watch it. It is so good. It's very... It reminds me a lot of... There's a British kind of...
Starting point is 02:07:21 Not a British version of it, but there's something that's a British show that's very much kind of like it in that same kind of vein. It's a lot more dry, obviously, because it's British, but it's called Garth Marengay's Dark Place. And it is... I haven't seen that. A very...
Starting point is 02:07:36 It's a similar... It's not the same premise, but it's a similar vibe. This kind of like low budget, almost like... There's like ADR where there doesn't need to be. Doesn't need to be? Yeah, and there's just the delivery on it. It's so weird. It's about like this, like, this amazing...
Starting point is 02:07:52 It's like a doctor house kind of scenario, but it's set more like an 80s kind of twin peaks type deal. There's a scene where a guy explodes in a hospital room. He explodes and his heads on the ground. And he said the head's like, can you put me out of my misery? It really hurts. And it's the dumbest, it's so fucking stupid, but it's so good. Both of those things are highly recommended from me. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:22 But anyway, the last one. Hitler. And as always, kill Hitler. Kill Hitler. As always. Cream Queen Cream Queen Sween wrote and he says, What's up?
Starting point is 02:08:36 Fuck Snarks. You guys have bad, bad nicknors. Oh, damn. I think it's the, you know what it is? I mean, yeah, I mean, you're homeless. I can't blame you.
Starting point is 02:08:47 It's the lack of walls and warm and inflated heat. Yeah, it's just fries them, right? First time Patreon supporter, a long time listener. Welcome aboard. Thanks for finally becoming homeless. This is for Chris, and not a question, but I was going through my grandmother's pantry and found not one, but two completely sealed glass snapples.
Starting point is 02:09:07 And I can't think of anyone else who would adore them more than Chris. So there's any way that I can get them to you, a fellow New Yorker, let me know. Look, man, I'm fine. I will let you know. I have a full case of unopened glass snapples in my parents' house in New York. I don't need any extra ones. you enjoy that one, all right? Shake it up, hit the bottom,
Starting point is 02:09:30 do that little pound at the bottom, crack the seal, enjoy it yourself. I give you permission. I have plenty. I'm saving them for when they inevitably bring them back and admit that it was a fucking stupid decision. Like they did with everything else, like they did with fucking chicken fries
Starting point is 02:09:46 back in the mid-2000s where they're like, oh, nobody wants chicken fries. And now it's the only thing people go to Burger King for. So why would you stop doing that? Stupid. But, yeah, you can, I appreciate it, but it's not necessary. And I guess that wasn't really a question.
Starting point is 02:10:01 So to wrap it up a really quick one, Randeep Kang. Sup guys. What's your opinion on how H3's show ended with Hassan? That shit was wild. I think that was pretty obvious. That was like, I was wondering when that would happen. It is kind of fascinating to me that Ethan has two podcasts now that have just kind of unceremoniously ended. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Yeah. Yeah. Like it's strange. It's a strange pattern. I wonder what the third one's going to be. As soon as as the Hamas thing came. For from what I've seen so far, those when it comes to people that are on each side of that conversation, very on like stakes on each side. There is never, I've never seen a middle ground be reached ever. Yeah. It's impossible. In conversation and like just like the activist. for the activist specifically. I've never seen them. And I'm talking about people to have actual stakes in it. Not like us or like another person you would know. Like people that are like family on each side, they cannot and will not meet a riddle ground. But that's, but see, the weird thing about that is.
Starting point is 02:11:11 And it's insane. Because my experience is totally different when I see, I see people who are like, for example, I've seen people who have had family, you know, Palestinians, is directly killed but are still being reasonable about the scenario of what is actually happening and vice versa of saying I had people that were close to me that were brutalized by Hamas but that doesn't justify killing five six times more than about you know what I'm saying like there's there's people now usually people are telling them to shut the fuck up which is kind of crazy but the one thing that I you know going back to the Ethan because this is what it's really about is what weirded me out is how um how famous how influential
Starting point is 02:11:59 Ethan Klein is and how well off he is and the thing that I just can't understand is the reason why that show ended specifically is because Ethan could not stop reading Reddit and fucking discord and what baffles me is if I were in the position of Ethan Klein that my eyes would never lay, I couldn't even, I don't, I don't really read, I don't do that shit now. Just, just not, it's just not. But like, say, if I was set with that type of money,
Starting point is 02:12:31 I am fucking doing only shit that I love and I am not diving because he specifically was like, I was reading, I was seeing your discord, Hassan, because it's, it's unofficial one. It's the unofficial official, right? Because he didn't start it, it organically came up. And reading all of the stuff that was going on in there, there was all these fucking horrible people saying, terrible things about Ethan and all the shit.
Starting point is 02:12:53 And I'm like, the fact that you're seeking this shit out, dude, is really where I'm like, I want to talk to you, brother. Like, I want to be like, why would you even do that when you know how fucked up some people are, that they're going to say the worst shit imaginable. And you are, and it killed him. He came back on one of his shows, one of his podcasts, and he was like, this shit kept me up. Like, it really bothered him.
Starting point is 02:13:19 And I'm just like, bro. if I did that what he did like say even when I made videos I made videos shitting on Joe Rogan because he was being such an idiot during the pandemic and if I read every single comment
Starting point is 02:13:31 yeah I'd probably be pretty fucking annoyed too because you know there was a lot of fan boys of Joe Rogan that were just just saying probably some really not colorful things about me that normally they were colorful they were colorful they're colorful
Starting point is 02:13:46 they're probably colorful they were they weren't they weren't saying They're probably very colorful, probably very color oriented. Absolutely. And so purposefully, I mean, you just, okay, I'm not going to read all that shit because you already know what you're going to, you're just, all you're going to do is hurt yourself by diving into all of that shit because it's not constructive criticism.
Starting point is 02:14:08 They're just talking shit. And so eventually they kept having these crazy disagreements. They already had healthy conversations on the show itself and basically agreed to disagree. they both literally had moments where they cried, but then all of a sudden, Ethan's like, I'm going to dive deep into all of this stuff. And he's like an old school type of person
Starting point is 02:14:29 that just can't stay off. He reminds me not to the same degree, but we've all kind of said, boogie, stay the fuck off the internet. Stop reading all this shit. Stop responding to these people. And they seem they can't help themselves about it. The problem is that he's older, right?
Starting point is 02:14:45 And he's an older person. His family's from one of the places where, Sure. Those things are, he's objective, one of the groups. He's also Jewish. Granted, that is a lot of... Being a Jewish person historically and seeing the way the Jewish government is behaving right now has to be tough. It has to be a really, really tough thing to see how, you know, you guys were the ones that were being kicked around for centuries.
Starting point is 02:15:15 And now you guys are doing the kicking around. It must be a tough thing. And it's also something that, like, you could, I could almost believe this isn't fake because of the history of the people's involved, you know? Simply because of the, because like, look at this. Like, look at what's happening. Like, they sailed over the water and just started killing people on the beach. That fucking really happened. That wasn't like a fucking thing.
Starting point is 02:15:45 People were like, that's not some shit that we do in America. We would lie about it where the American, like, where the American, like, fucking the maggot people would be like, they're stealing our things. Look at it. No, that straight up was a real thing that happened. People sailed across the water and murdered other people for not the best reason. So, like, it's an insane thing. I think Ethan just takes too much.
Starting point is 02:16:07 He's too close to the problem. He's just standing too close to the fire to see those situations right now. But I think that's a lot of people because I really hope that situation gets cleared out because everyone is just so barred and armed towards one another. It makes my heart hurt. It's crazy, but I just, if he, you have to know, being as big of an influencer or whatever, you know, I hate that word, but still, being as big as he is and he's not a dumb person that it's like, you got to know, you got to know, you're going to discord.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Dude, I hate discord. I truly, it brings, there is so, it's, it's like an extension of, 4chan almost in some people's servers and some people's servers. So you'll find in certain chats and whatever some of the worst people on the internet. And you've got to know when it comes to something that's heated. Like you're specifically, what did you think you were going to find on Hassan's discord by reading all that shit? Do you think it was going to be everybody being like, oh, everything's great when there's
Starting point is 02:17:11 these radical people that are just defending Palestinians at all costs to the point where some of them were even defending Hamas. Like, did you think, what you thought you weren't going to find that? Did you seriously think you weren't going to? Like, so once he sought it out and found it, it hurt, it destroyed his heart. And it's like, this is somewhat of a representation of Hassan, at least how he felt. Which it feels a little unfair because I'm like, you know, Hassan doesn't feel that way. They've had very productive, like I said, conversations on.
Starting point is 02:17:40 I watched their leftovers and their talks about that shit. And they had very four-hour fucking conversation Very productive about this shit Very understanding on each other's points and sides and stuff And then you know It's like damn And inevitably that shit It just they had a falling out
Starting point is 02:17:59 They've had more arguments because of this stuff Because of that catalyst And um You know it's unfortunate because I actually thought there was a The podcast started off horrible I thought it was terrible but then they started to actually gain some chemistry
Starting point is 02:18:16 and ultimately because the things that I don't like about Hassan he doesn't do in that podcast which is steamroll and be like a complete piece of shit and then Ethan started to become less of like a this is my show I'm going to talk whenever I want and it actually started to become like I was like this this is actually a pretty good show
Starting point is 02:18:37 to talk about some shit that you know a lot of people don't talk about on that high of a level of podcast I guess And so it's kind of unfortunate that it's gone, but hey, man, he still got all his other other shit going on, so he's fine. And they're both fine. They're both fucking fine. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:58 The streamer awards happened this week. Didn't that shit happen? Oh, yeah, I didn't. The Nintendo Monjo would go to Ian and be like. I've never watched that. Oh, yeah, I forgot about. They had their reconciliation. They had their reconciliation.
Starting point is 02:19:10 I would have a swung on that bitch. I mean, they don't touch me. Don't you ever touch me, nigga. Don't you ever, don't you ever talk. Eat in this cold cocks or, bro. Don't fucking turn this wild. I don't even, there's, I probably, my first reaction, but there's no way that's real.
Starting point is 02:19:30 There's no way that happened. And it would, and then when finding out that it's real, I didn't know, I don't know what to think. I think why'd he hit her like that? Why do it? And it's a set.
Starting point is 02:19:42 It's a. Like he shakes free, squares up, starts cursing that, and then cold cockser, bro. That would make so many people happy. You know what I mean? Like so many people would be like, yeah, finally. That would make the wrong kind of people. It would be the wrong kind of people and me happy. That's it.
Starting point is 02:20:00 It would make Kingston very happy because I don't like Tanamojo at all. And then it would be like very not great group of people happy as well. I did, yeah, I saw that clip of, uh, of them going around her like, say, forgiveness. And I thought I was like, that's kind of, there's something kind of nice. I don't know. I, it made me smile seeing that. There was like, there's something, because it's so long ago and seeing like this kind of full circle thing happen.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Yeah. It's kind of like, oh, it's, I wish. I don't know. I guess for me, I look at it as. And this might not be true for them. But I look at it as like, oh, yeah, this is the internet. And it's not really that fucking serious. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:20:49 Like there's something about it where it's like there are there are people that I've made videos about or that I have like insulted for sure that I do not fucking remember today. Like I just straight up. I straight up to like I think I had I had somebody come up to me. It's like, hey, you made a you you made a joke about me a couple years ago. I was like, oh, I don't remember. Who? Who? I sincerely like I don't remember.
Starting point is 02:21:11 What did you do? Maybe. I don't know. Why did you say something stupid? Why did you say something to make fun at you? Yeah, that's the thing. It's like I've never made fun of anybody who didn't, I think didn't rightfully have like, like I'd never sent like death threats to anybody or fucking did anything crazy.
Starting point is 02:21:26 I just like, hey, that's a really dumb thing for you to say. But, you know, I don't care about it really, like on a deep level to the point where I'm carrying it around with me for years and years and years. Oh, hell no. So like, I don't know, seeing them together in that context with that, with that, with that kind of meme kind of repurpose was like it's probably the only example of like a physical manifestation of that attitude that I've actually seen
Starting point is 02:21:51 occur in real time where it's like oh this is it really isn't that big of a fucking deal yeah it's just the internet you know I thought it was interesting we're not at each other's throats and like fucking you know hating each other to the core of each other's being uh I appreciate that yeah but what were you saying oh I was just just adding to
Starting point is 02:22:12 what you were saying is I saw, I think she, I think Tanner was streaming around the time where, or maybe, I think she was reacting to his apology video when he put out that one video about like, I wish the real I go back or whatever. And she was saying, she was like, she didn't even think he had a reason. She didn't even think he really should have apologize. She actually was like, yeah, at the time, I, I was a complete fucking idiot. And, like, they're reflecting on how she used to behave. And, like, she, she cringes at the thought of that.
Starting point is 02:22:51 So there was no bad blood. It was not like, you know, at the time, obviously, she was upset. But as a much older woman, she was like, no, like, I was an idiot. And I understand why this dude went after me. Even though, you know, obviously, it's not the nicest way to go about it. But she understood that her behavior in being like, you know, just being some. dumb white bitch and just like just using hard R's like like it's nothing is not the smartest thing to do.
Starting point is 02:23:19 And so it was it was interesting. Her reflection on it was very mature. And, uh, you know, she's, she's the porn star now. So, you know, a lot of those, a lot of those bitches actually have a lot of perspective on the world. It's interesting. I feel like a lot of sex workers have such a perspective on the world that a lot of people don't because of the amount of people that they interact with.
Starting point is 02:23:36 They're very interesting to talk to. Yeah. Because when I get come on my face, all I do is feel shame. For them, they get enlightened, man. It's crazy. It's wild. It's wild the perspective you get, bro. 100%.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Shout up to Tanna's tits, man. I've never seen him. Not looking, though. Is she a sex worker? I didn't even know. I thought she's a sex worker. I found out because I used to... God, everyone's a fucking degenerate.
Starting point is 02:24:02 Before I knew about the origins of Adam 22, that dude sucks. Like, Jesus Christ. The fucking guy sucks. But, like, yeah, he used to... I saw that they did. did some content back in the day. I thought it was fake, but apparently it was real.
Starting point is 02:24:16 We're like, oh, we're going to, like, Adam 22 and somebody's going to bang off camera, and she's, Hannah's going to give commentary. And then they were, like, talking about the whole industry. And it was, like, not too far afterwards. She was basically being like, oh, I'm doing only fans.
Starting point is 02:24:34 And that's basically, I think she just makes her money. Because she doesn't, I don't, I've never seen her do anything as far as content. She doesn't, like, podcast. She does. She has a podcast. She had Matt Rife on. I remember and she kind of cooked him a little bit.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Oh, that was her? Yeah, yeah, that was the podcast. She looks also very different. There's something of Tanna. I didn't know if it's just me, but like her face has never looked the same to me every time I've seen it. Like, she looks different every time I see this person. Like, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 02:25:07 I've been told that I have a face like that too where it's like if people see me from different angles. I look like a completely different fucking person. So I get it. Maybe she's like one of those people. But I did not recognize her in that clip with Matt Rife either. And I was like, oh shit, that's Tana Mojo. Oh, she had sunglasses and a hat on. So that's Bobby White didn't recognize her in that
Starting point is 02:25:26 image of Ravrevely. Well, I guess so. Yeah. She did not, like, you couldn't see her face. No, but even in that, no, but what I'm saying, even in that clip of them together. What do you mean? Oh, oh, on her and Ian? I'm like, you guys look very, I mean, Ian looks different than he used to, but he still looks like Ian.
Starting point is 02:25:43 Ian, I don't know. Maybe I'm very looking too deeply into it. I don't know. I don't look very different to me. It looks very different now. Because he has the, the mullet thing going on completely. Because the one thing that stood out about Idubs to me mostly was his glasses and his forehead. And they're both gone, essentially.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Because they have the hair covering it up and then his glasses gone. So it's like, I'm like, if I saw him walking down the street, I'm so used to him looking like this now. But if that was my introduction, seeing him like this when I only. remember that guy. I wouldn't connect it immediately. That's fair, yeah. Who's this fucking redneck? And then I'm like, oh shit. That's the inward guy.
Starting point is 02:26:19 One thing I wanted to read. We won't answer it because we technically answered this question on, I think, the last episode. So it's a double up, but it is a nice sentiment. Shut up Sweeney or Gay Rodin. This is high, hi, cutey babies. What is your most memorable gift that you've ever received for Christmas as a kid? I swear to God we just answered this. Exact question.
Starting point is 02:26:38 It sounds like it. It sounds like we did in the last. episode. But they also read in, also, thanks for keeping me sane. I'm curious as to what my brain looks like after binging the sleepy cabin podcast along with 160 episodes of the Snark Tank back to back by the time I caught up real time. Love you guys. That's a wild combination.
Starting point is 02:27:00 That's a wild combination. That's a lot to do, man. Be careful with that. And with that, have a beautiful little fucking Christmas. do all the holiday shit eat your... I don't know. What do you're...
Starting point is 02:27:14 I don't know. What do people do for Christmas? If you... If you actually make... What is it called? Fruitcake? If you actually make fruitcake, you should be shot into the stun.
Starting point is 02:27:24 No one really makes fruitcake. My grandma liked fruitcake and my grandma was also from... My grandmother was also around what Hitler was around. So let that make sense to you. I want you all to know that I don't care about any of you.
Starting point is 02:27:37 None of you mean anything to me. Only that matters is the money. you guys give me. I don't appreciate you. My grandmother's, yes, she's born in the 30s. Your grandma's old?
Starting point is 02:27:49 I want you guys all to know that I'm coming for you. Every dollar you have, I'm taking it from you. I know your information. I know you guys live. I'm going to show up in your house in the dark. When it's at this darkest,
Starting point is 02:28:00 where you live is at its absolute darkest. I want you to know I'm behind you. I'm right behind you at that moment. When you are your most scared, I'm always near you. I want you to understand that. as as of right now I want to let you know there's a quick little update about the podcast that uh that 50 um
Starting point is 02:28:21 Sweeney's cut of the money it just goes to us now yeah he's at his darkest at it's at it's your house is literal darkest when there is no light in your home I'm in your house ruffling through your fucking garbage I'm picking a kid up off the bed and throwing him on the floor over and over and over again. You're going to hear your kid scream. Like somebody lifted me up and threw me on the ground and you're going to know it was me that did that to your kid. I'm coming for you.
Starting point is 02:28:52 What are you doing? You're trying to be a poltergeist or something? What are you doing? The scariest. It's me, Kingston, the Christmas poltergeist. Here to throw your kid on the ground. The idea of you hearing your kids scream, you go in there, your bedroom.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Yeah, your kids on the phone is like, what happened? some big black guy picked me up and threw me on the floor, Dad, I swear to God, it's like, what? That didn't happen. It's like, that it just happened to me. Shut up and go out of the stupid animal. Get in your fucking bedfire.
Starting point is 02:29:24 I'm fucking shooting you again. Getting in your bedfire, I'll beat you again if you don't go to sleep. The animal. Did you, for the longest time, I thought that was a real movie. Did we talk about that? Dude, I thought so too. I thought for sure that that was a real movie. Until the high resolution
Starting point is 02:29:39 version of the movie, version of the movie came out and then you could see the title is like the title of the movie is like Angels with Filthy Souls and I'm like that's not a real fucking movie that's so fucking ridiculous but
Starting point is 02:29:52 yeah I totally thought that was real but anyway we're gonna move on the what I was gonna say the real update oh yeah the real update is aside from Kingston losing all of his shares of the money
Starting point is 02:30:06 and they're all going to us a freelancer We are So we're going to double up on episodes We're going to have episodes for an episode for Christmas Obviously the one you're listening to now We're going to have an episode for New Year's basically Or an episode for just before New Year's
Starting point is 02:30:22 We're going to have extra ammo to accompany them But we're recording that all this week basically And the first week of January We're going to take some Lowdown time So the first week of January We're going to be taking it off just so we can plan for some stuff.
Starting point is 02:30:42 There's some merch stuff that we want to get to, definitely, and I want to just clear my schedule in that sense just to get a clean handle on that. So first week of January, we're going to be taking a little bit of a break, but we'll be back, what, like the 7th or the 8th or something like that? Something like that, yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:58 Yeah, early January will be there. So the question that will still go up in time. We'll get to all your questions, obviously. and the schedule is going to remain the same episode extra ammo episode two episodes extra ammo two episodes extra ammo two episodes extra ammo but uh you know it's going to be a little bit of a break
Starting point is 02:31:17 yes so fuck you take a comic Cuban Pete I'm the king of the rumba beat boom chikig boom chikig boom chikig boom It's racist I'm going to read the names now. I'm going to read the names now. Oh, I was about to leave.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Okay, yeah. All right, let's read them all in one word. You got to say every name in one word. You got to go for it. You got to go for it. Doc, or I can't. Three, three, two, one, go. Doc on the Bay, sitting on a cock because I'm gay,
Starting point is 02:32:05 PPP, Pee, Pee, Pee, Pee, Pee, G. Gay ABC's. Blow a dick, a female dick. Gay is what I will become. Leon Sam's, big, meaty, stinks, saucy legs, McGee, Gray McCollier. Josh, it wasn't me. You took a breath. You took a breath, niggas.
Starting point is 02:32:17 I can't. It's not possible. All right. In one syllable. Also, by the way. Also, by, niggas. Fuck y'all. Make you.
Starting point is 02:32:29 Slow that, slow that audio clip down. 5 million percent. And you'll see that I actually read all, all of the names. in complete succinct order. You know what that I want to call what? Sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 02:32:42 A family guy. I think he said something. I think Peter said that he could recite. Do you remember that? All the present. I just say every word in the world in one sentence. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:51 You're just jealous. It's a good joke. It's a stupid joke. Sitting on the car because I'm gay is from that Ricky Jervais, Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock, and Luis C.K.
Starting point is 02:33:03 interview. You're not fooling me. I've studied this stuff. I know. But thank you, thank you for writing in, or for donating your $25. Thank you to all of our $25 patrons who are, we are reading now. These are all of our $25 homeless patrons. Josh, it wasn't me giddy.
Starting point is 02:33:18 Andy, the man whose handies are S-tier and dandy. Evil Sween, be like, I'm skinny. Ben Shapiro 100% stats. So fucking mean for no reason. Ben Shapiro, 100% stashed away one of his sister's bras when he was a teenager. For sure, for sure. That's so fucking. crazy dog pregnant her titties were insane i still think about that bro those are why out to abby
Starting point is 02:33:43 shapiro's pregnant tits all right these smoker daddy lars the uncle ruckus of the goon squad was like damn i'm not gay i'm feeling trans uh got man's dick in my ass i'm he him but not for long my penis is coming off uh send sonic symphony to israel they They need that hog. Metal case. Did you guys see that Jerry Seinfelds? It is real right now. This is something so funny about that.
Starting point is 02:34:13 Oh, my God. I don't know why. I don't know why. It's just, I mean, obviously he would be. Like, that makes perfect sense. But, like, it's just, it's fun. I can't imagine that in any other context, but a Seinfeld episode. Was he donating cars to, like, the slaughtered families or something?
Starting point is 02:34:25 What is he doing? What is he doing? I just, I just feel like, I just love the idea of him there. And just, it's so not serious. You know what I mean? Like the idea of him being there. He's pretty fucked up. He's like...
Starting point is 02:34:41 What a fucked up scenario. Or like the idea of like what like the hostages come up and they're like they're like, they're talking to him like, oh man, Jerry help us. And it's like... I mean... Pass him the megaphone. Yeah. Yeah. Or the idea of like he would find it like an awkward situation to be in a room full of people who, a family who's who have hostages because it's like.
Starting point is 02:35:06 well none of them are any more special than the other one then right they're all kind of the same like none of them none of them take priority over each other they're all hostage people how do i how do i handle this and there's like some awkward like i don't know fucking george goes with him and refuses to tip i don't know i just can't i can't see it and and i can't see this as like a real trip to israel for like a genuine humanitarian cause i just look at it as like a it's like what sitcom-style synanigans are going on? I must know. Metal gay solid 3 sperm eater
Starting point is 02:35:42 featuring solid talk. Shut up Sweeney, you're gay. The Billboard posted on KSI's massive fucking forehead, homeless transfam who got laid off from Pizza Hut. That's rough. Damn. Go to Domino's. They're better.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Go to Dominoes, man. Go to Dominoes. Alexander the Gay and Chris the Straight. Hard or flaccid? coming in me. That's a while. Screaming like the NASGOOle when I come. Sucking down a Chris Dicock.
Starting point is 02:36:10 I mean die cock. I mean die cock. Throw you come in the air and spray it like you just don't care. If you like dick and balls and all that gay shit, everybody. Because I'm, because I am loving just how gay I am. And if I wasn't, I'd just,
Starting point is 02:36:25 I'd hate just, I'm a gaper for dudes. Y'all should know. Which one's that? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Ben Shapiro tries to burp on a clit.
Starting point is 02:36:38 Ben Shapiro burr tries to burp on a clip but vomits. That's so fucking funny. This is absolutely disgusting. This is absolutely disgusting. That was absolutely disgusting. I can't. Hypothetically speaking, what if the pH balance here was so off? Stop with the Britain slander.
Starting point is 02:37:03 Suces here. Listening to Sme that makes me consider racism. Chris, you broke ass crayon eating no brain
Starting point is 02:37:07 Titan player. Baller of the first sin, you don't have to be afraid anymore. We are approaching episode 200. I would like to
Starting point is 02:37:17 thank all the bitches, big bitches, small, bitches, tall, bitches, short bitches. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 02:37:23 100. Yeah. Chris, please look up picks of dizzy. What? Gillespie? The fuck is this?
Starting point is 02:37:34 That doesn't even sound like a real person. Dizzy. Is that Dizzy from Gears? No. American bandleader and composer? What's their name? What's their name? What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:37:52 Is their name Dizzy Lesbian? Dizzy Jalesby. I wrote it in the chat so you could Google it. What the fuck? What is it going on with his face, bro? Is that real? is he sick I don't like this
Starting point is 02:38:07 Yo what is occurring with this man's face He looks normal He's like a frog Let's see Do you not see what I'm talking? Oh I know I know exactly who this is I know exactly who this is There's some videos of him
Starting point is 02:38:24 There's some videos of him That shit bro you can like really Fuck yourself up doing this There's some people that have like some permanent shit going on with them because of this? How can he do that? That looks so impossible.
Starting point is 02:38:38 Because literally his, even his nose raises. Do you think he has really big, like his lips are like, like they go further back up than most people's lips do? I don't know, man. This is one of the scariest things. I almost feel like we watched a clip of somebody doing this.
Starting point is 02:38:56 We've definitely watched a clip of this. We've definitely seen a clip of this. Because like, I have, I have very full cheeks right. Even when I do it, my nose doesn't raise. His nose raises when he does that. No, it's crazy, dude. That is so out of pocket in every single, like, how do you do this?
Starting point is 02:39:15 I mean, he's clearly good, though. It's just like, imagine how much cum he can hold in his mouth, you know? What kind of fucking. He's like a chip-up. What kind of fucking, imagine how much cum this dude can hold in his mouth. Yeah. Yo, this guy's got a loose, he's got a loose maw, though, you know what I mean? Like, that's the loosest fucking, that's the loosest mouth in the history of...
Starting point is 02:39:41 Clearly the cum king. Like, look at this picture of him. The cum king. He has, he has squirrel-like cheeks. That's insane, no. He just, he packs it full of cum, and then he can just slowly drink it throughout the day. Anyway, shut the fuck. Rewing the upholstery, ruining the upholstery of a 4-F-150 with the boys.
Starting point is 02:40:01 When you get caught between the cum and the dudes and some dude's penis, I know it's gay shit, but it's true. Okay. Johnny Silvercox, Cyphergraph, Sweeney with the Eni-weeney-weeney, Elmo found dead in New York City apartment. And I think it's kind of bussen. I think it's kind of cap that the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kind of slap. Damn.
Starting point is 02:40:24 That's pretty good. It's not a gay. It's not a gay cover, but it's, it's, The idea of Mad World. That's awesome. I think it's kind of bussin. I think it's kind of cap. The dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kind of slap.
Starting point is 02:40:45 So stupid. Hunter Dubois, the dog father. Carl, get a glass. I want to see it, Carl. Take the glass from the Walker's corpse before I squirt. Take it. Sweeney, lick my weenie. The cum flows white on the bed.
Starting point is 02:41:01 Medsheets tonight. Not a straight man to be here. A kingdom of penetration. And it looks like I'm the queen. Bro, same. The everlasting gaze. Back the tank of come. Caucasian container.
Starting point is 02:41:12 The cracker rail for gays. Donald Trump burping on Dom's clit. Oh, no. Do Christian girls squirt holy water? I don't like this. I don't like this lore that we've created. Dan Holder tighter. She's a fighter Snyder.
Starting point is 02:41:25 King Kong's Ding Dong wrote in. Black people is actually short for basketball people. I'm sorry, Sween. I thought that phrase independently. She, Pipkin on my Pippa, Popsim, El Gogg, average clit energy. I couldn't even edge. I just busted. Just the hard R.
Starting point is 02:41:43 Star Coffee on Twitch, bitch. She's Shinso on my do-hicky till I, till I be. Choked to death by Aubrey Plaza's thighs. Been blowing lots of guys living in a gay man's paradise, taking dongs of every size, living in a gay man's paradise. Transfem gremlin. Exposing people with lactose intolerance to 90 million rodigens of ionizing radiation. Yush, not Vin-Pen, the angelic DM, so here I am, blowing every man I can. I'm fucking every man, pretending I'm a homo man. DJ Caled voiced DJ Kumsock. DJ Komsok. That's so stupid. I like it. Craig the Canadian.
Starting point is 02:42:24 Friendly reminder, Kevin Sorbo, star of Christian media, like God's Not Dead voiced Hercules in God of War III. Yeah, yeah, got it worth it. He was also Hercules in the Hercules show. He's also literally Hercules, yeah. So that makes sense. I mean, even if he does something, it's kind of... Even if that does kind of suck, that's pretty cool. That's like a neat kind of thing.
Starting point is 02:42:47 It's your boy, Shawnee D. Little Big Dick Nuts. Little Dick Big Nuts. I fucking reversed it. Daily Wire present Matt Walsh's What is a Black? Ben and Jerry's Funky Monkey Pratt Honor or 12 Gates Chili Straw The Roman Empire is Chris and Sweeney's
Starting point is 02:43:07 Safe Space Argument Oh my Roman You think about our space argument Once a week Hell yeah dude Love it Gay Sinatra be like Start spreading your cheeks
Starting point is 02:43:20 I'm fucking your ass Start spreading your cheeks I want to see you You fart and piss My dick in your butt I wish I had a voice that could That could lend itself well to that Because I would ruin so many songs
Starting point is 02:43:43 With that shit Spreading them cheeks We I'm fucking your ass I want to see you far in piss I want my face inside of it your ass your ass
Starting point is 02:44:05 with like the actual big band in the background somebody Frank Sinatra Franksina tra motorboating and open colon is crazy we got a that's but man
Starting point is 02:44:19 that's open colon he's reached he's pulled your colon he pulled your colon out your fucking ass He opens your cheeks, digs in, out your colon.
Starting point is 02:44:38 He's holding it open, like, he's holding it open like people lock their screen doors with like a pole. He's spreading it open and he put his foot there to jam it. It's for an elbow. So he just can't close and he takes your colon out. The idea of Frank Sinatra having his foot on the rectum And left end of your rectum and the right end of your rectum Pry it open
Starting point is 02:45:11 Foot and elbow And then dig it inside of your cavernous ass on crazy You know that image of Willem Defoe When he's like this Where he's like that Derek At this moment edit that image of Willem Defoeufels Owen when he's standing wide.
Starting point is 02:45:33 Everybody knows what image we're talking about. It's the, it's the image of Willem Defoe standing like a pair of tongs. Yeah. All right. Oh, man, that really took me out. 3XO and the Japanese skin professor
Starting point is 02:45:46 who's suitcase of Yakuzaa hides with Sol in Chicago, burp and stroking, smoking jokin. Amurikon's going like this. Keith David, a homeless drip, M.H. Lord of Homeless drip. If you get put on Santa's nice list,
Starting point is 02:45:57 he'll show you his mistletoes. MF F-A-G. I think tits are lame. Vagina walls don't throw me at all. So tell me, why shouldn't it be true? I get dick out of dudes. I recognize that, but not really. That's a real fella right there.
Starting point is 02:46:20 But I don't know what, I don't know what song it is. Obi won't you blow me. Cremlin de Gremlin, that's it. I'm really going to do it this time. Deeth Caved. She spread it And let me take a sniff of that Mahi Fucking police coming hard as I thrust and pound
Starting point is 02:46:37 Avie Marge's unburped clit Halo 2 blow me away to And only the gayest will survive Need the homos Who bust inside I am gay against the wall So stupid
Starting point is 02:46:54 Oh God Wage Slay 583 A sad guy from Michigan Down bad for a helicopter Dick Amoticon so I can see Chris Go emoticons going like this. The Pippini Brothers Emporium has a celebrity shoutout video
Starting point is 02:47:08 for the 200 episode comment. Donk, Donkerson. That level 5, bussy got me gooped up for real, for real, no cap on God. No God on Cap, bro. No God on Cat. We got to get that we got that hat made at least.
Starting point is 02:47:23 There's no God on Cap. On Cap. You got to pay the To get in the boys' hole, gay, and sick. Shaggy using 2% of his power to grant himself the N-word pass. Kid Cuddy, I'm on the pursuit of fat penis, and I know everything that's long ain't always going to be throbbing. Star Tanks, snitch bitches need to stop telling on me to Daddy Colin. Zeef-Q-F-Q-Eef.
Starting point is 02:47:56 If I were a gay man with a femboy or two, I mean-like. lesbian, gumbull's voice actor calling Dream the F slur, sadman.gov. John Strickland, do your balls hang low? Can they gobble down my throat? Is the cum thick as rice or is or is it sweet? Is it sweet or is it spice?
Starting point is 02:48:15 Merck's 1889. The Benjamin, that Benjamin button make my cone of vision shrink steady. Jesus Christ. I don't even know what that fucking, that is beyond by even. That sounds like Dracula flow, dude.
Starting point is 02:48:29 yeah it does but like I just he said that Benjamin button fuck it I ate you up fuck it I ate the first search of Keith David featuring Paul Joseph Watson's
Starting point is 02:48:41 massive fist waffle stomping his shit down the sick drain videos of white kids screaming the inward pass at their classmates a pre-Raz Blake 896 crypto scammer and YouTube sensation Logan Paul
Starting point is 02:48:54 winning the United States champion at the WWE crown jewel let the buttholes hit the cock let the buttholes hit the cock and let the butt holes hit the cock So stupid Codooca
Starting point is 02:49:08 Bhawnia Cod No I think it's better like put the penis in my hole or something No one's coming to me two No one's coming to me Some I really want some jizz I really want some jiz
Starting point is 02:49:21 I really want some jiz Come Everybody Bout the penis in my hole Everybody about the the bus. Everybody's about to come coming
Starting point is 02:49:33 again in your rear end here we go here we go down one come all over me two come all over me three come all over me
Starting point is 02:49:48 come all over me four come all over me I really want some jazz I really want some jazz I really want some jazz I really want some jazz God I love that.
Starting point is 02:50:05 It's real. How easy would that be to write? It would be so easy. We just did it. We have to do it just rewind this and be like, all right, cool. We got most of the song. Yeah, we'll cut this out. How fucked up would that be?
Starting point is 02:50:19 We cut this out and it's like, here's your extra ammo. We're going to write fucking. That's great. And we just post the end part of this. And then that's the extra ammo. We should do that for April. We'll do that for April fools. Yeah, yeah, that'll be good.
Starting point is 02:50:32 We could still for a real one. April Fool, this should be audio of us just beating our dicks. Then I should post that as the fucking extra ammo. That's crazy. Get it? That's a crazy... I mean, I mean, I really, I really have been thinking about this, sincerely.
Starting point is 02:50:50 I really want to do that radio thing. Like, I really want to do that, like, where we do, like, where we kind of do a whole hour of radio where we pick songs that we like and then we have like interstitials of like fake like almost like do our best to make what a Grand Theft Auto radio station would be like but just for us
Starting point is 02:51:10 and just like an hour or 30 minutes worth I feel like it'd be so fun but I like that we can do it for sure. Welcome back to Snark FM Welcome about Snark FM. We got Danger Kingston here and uh and uh comey Chris I don't know Kevin Chris and Danger
Starting point is 02:51:24 Derek I'd want to I'd want to I'd want to like write it and have like I'd want to write it and have other like YouTubers like come in as like we're interviewing the famous author of Come come inside yourself Not in your loved ones or like whatever the fuck And we'll have like I don't know Jack's films be like
Starting point is 02:51:40 Thanks for having thanks for having me on I'd love to like all these It would be such a fun I have a perfect one It's like welcome back to Negroes and the Spick Hey guys it's going on today Back on 96.1 96.1
Starting point is 02:51:54 Snark FM Snark FM Exactly It would be so fun. We could have all these, like, bits with, like, we could collaborate with, like, literally everybody. That would be fun. That would be fun because we could put a lot of work into something cool, like, something really genuinely awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:12 Fake really. I would be more than happy to, I would be totally more than happy to just edit all that and even just right. I just, it just seems fun, especially because there's no video involved, so it's just like all audio and you could really fuck with it and really get a lot of value of it. And we can have our friend. our friends come on and truly be as hilarious as they want, because it's a radio, so they can be anybody they want to be. So you just pick a character and then come on and be like
Starting point is 02:52:36 someone could be a used puppy salesman, someone could be freaking trying to sell you some insane shit. What I want is to have so much of it, like at least an hour's worth of like music and then you know, our interstitials that we could play it for an hour in like a, you could play it in your car
Starting point is 02:52:54 and people will be convinced that it's like a real. It's a correct. station. That'd be so fucking sick, dude. That'd be amazing. Like, you know how they have those bumpers? You know, they have those bumpers where it's a bunch of, like, mixed sounds. Oh, yeah, yeah. So this is a snark a f-em, you know, just to make it sound like it's a real radio station.
Starting point is 02:53:13 And it's like, Peter. Peter. We have, like, all these, like, fucking sound bites. Shotglebin. Yeah, well, I'm like, every, dude, it could, it would be so. It'd be a bunch of my laughs. It'd be like various versions of my laugh. You press up.
Starting point is 02:53:34 Yeah. Peter. I'm working on it. I'm marking on it. Well, yeah. It'll be fun. Yeah, it'll be great. I might even just whip up like a test thing today.
Starting point is 02:53:48 Just that. Fake ads, too. Anyway, fake ads. Oh, dude. Yeah, totally. Ads for booty boys. Booty boys. Booty boys.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, we can get like hot. We can get Mick to do it because Mick has like a perfect like, like advertiser, like voice acting. He does. Like he can, he can nail that shit. Yeah, I'm set on this. Just force him to do it. I'll write it out.
Starting point is 02:54:14 Yeah. Yeah, let's go. You know what you guys should do? You should give me like a list of genuinely like you should give me like a list of like 15 songs that you would want like just songs that you like you like you like you like you like you like know that. you'd have like something just anything that would go in it and you send me that list like later today or like something and I'll like get to work on like
Starting point is 02:54:35 doing like a yeah I can't figure it out because I want to do it I just think it sounds fun even though it would be copyrighted immediately on Spotify and then I'll make no fucking money it would make no money long as it would be immediately copyright struck but I'm okay with that I'm totally fine with that
Starting point is 02:54:51 yeah it should be good y'all names can donate fuck you you can donate give us More money. You know what? We'll put it on YouTube, but we'll put it up for patrons. I think that's, yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:03 That's a great idea. Yeah. Yeah, why not? Let's do it. Fuck yeah. Anyway. If any of you guys, I got a piss. Pindj's a goddamn name.
Starting point is 02:55:11 Just, all right. I'm not going to piss on my wall. I'm not going to piss on my wall and have splashback get on my computer. I pee hard. For the final episode. When we have Keith David on, you're doing that. For the final. When we have Keith on, I'm going to take my dick out of show to him.
Starting point is 02:55:26 It's going to stand up and show it. I can't You do it right there. You do it You pull your fucking shirt I can't imagine this reaction. What the hell? I've never been so...
Starting point is 02:55:43 Why are you showing me your penis? I've never been so at this point in my goddamn life, boy. You've had me come on here asking me time and time again to be on this goddamn show. I come in, you show me a fucking penis. You are out of your fucking mind, boy. You are out of your fucking penis. Hard is shit.
Starting point is 02:55:58 Why are you so hard? You're throbbing. You're actually getting pretty good at that Keith David impression, actually. Like, that actually sounds more and more like him than more you do. I can only do with the yelling thing when he does the yell like the Ramirez, Permanel. Yeah, yeah. That's it. I can't do his normal talking voice.
Starting point is 02:56:17 Yeah. Like, I can do, like, I'm so hard. I'm going to fall down. Most impressions that I can do are like, like, I can do a really good Matthew Broderick, but only only a really good Matthew Broderick. but only a really good Matthew Broderick in pain. Like that's all I can do. In pain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Like, after he's, like, crashed his car after, like, hitting, like, several people. Yeah, after, right after killing that woman. Yeah, yeah. Several people and crash his car, you can do a good impression. Got it. It's fighting.
Starting point is 02:56:48 I can do an impression. I think I can do an impression of absolutely everybody on earth, but being hurt. Being, ah, that's good. Do Keith David being hurt. I'm fucking having a moment. I'm fucking reeling right now. I got to calm down.
Starting point is 02:57:31 Finish the list. This way. Finish it! This is it. why you got, this is why, finish it. This is why you got to, uh, this is why you gotta stick around for the credits, man. This is why people who skip the credits,
Starting point is 02:57:46 they miss out on a lot. You really, all right, all right, let's finish this one. You really have to stick around for the credits. Like, I kid you not, the credits are always where shit gets the most bananas. It's going to get insane. It gets the most. Oh, I'm sweaty. All right.
Starting point is 02:58:02 It's real. Hector's rectum is real little dishrag. Come on my peen Alaskin, Oedfield trash Texas Tater Salad My body's a machine that turns piss into more piss I'm Dr. Roxy The Rockin'roll clown
Starting point is 02:58:18 I do cocaine Sue Hulk tickle my ass here It's Nikki Ziggy The locust What? The locust That fuck the Bulltock pistol hole In Maria's head Holy hell
Starting point is 02:58:32 Damn I mean that head is gone to be fair. Like, there's no hole in that head. The bulteot pistol is so unreasonably powerful. So there's no whole. That gun, that gun, that gun. Dude, it has kickback for those guys.
Starting point is 02:58:48 Imagine. Guys, guys, do you understand the size of that gun? Have you looked at the size of that fucking gun? That gun is a massive pistol. It's the size of a bookpack for a little kid. That pistol is the size of a kid's a buckback. That gun, that pistol is the size of my ultra-wide monitor. It's insane.
Starting point is 02:59:11 A roughly human-shaped pile of red flags, duck penis. Jackson DuPont, badly brave, hugger Derek, duck-cunt, Goliath, voice. I've been denied everything. Even my cum. Aetherian, Pergerian hunter. Flying bacon with my shirt off. Oh, frying bacon with my shirt off. That's mental.
Starting point is 02:59:28 That's like... That's like... That's not smart. If you fly bacon with your pants off. That's crazier though. That's crazy. You're dick right up against it too. If you're like really tall too.
Starting point is 02:59:41 You're really tall. You're like, yeah. Right on your dick. Every fucking scorch you get a little harder, bro. You just throw a little bit of water too in the pan too. You just throw a little bit of water to do. I'm about to go in my kitchen right now and fry bacon completely naked just to prove that I'm hard and cool. You'll be something.
Starting point is 03:00:02 You'll be fucking. I look like a fucking Dalmatian Probably Have you guys seen the memes Of the guys like me breaking in them Me breaking into McDonald's and dipping my balls on a friar And it's just some Just a bunch of memes
Starting point is 03:00:16 People just dunk in their balls at In a fucking French fry machine And it's like what is wrong with people God bless you got to do it Sometimes you got to crisp them up a little bit They get cold For presentation That is true
Starting point is 03:00:32 You're like hey dude My if I stop by your job I got a girl coming over. I got a, I got to fry my nuttack a little bit. So it looks cool. He's like, yeah, do, swing by at like 7.30. That's not like, we're not in peak anymore. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:43 Imagine that being a completely understandable thing to experience. You're just at work, like, making a sandwiches. And you're like, what the fuck is this guy? Yo, what is he doing? Oh, he's frying his balls a little bit. Yeah, where's the fuck is John? I thought John was supposed to be here. He's like, oh, he's off.
Starting point is 03:00:59 John's in the back frying his mustache or frying his, frying his, frying his, frying his, frying his, frying is his nut sack and he's got a date tonight. That's why he's doing it. Okay, I'm good, I'm good. He's a fucking asshole just taking it. Like it's a fucking tattoo. Just it's fucking... It's fucking...
Starting point is 03:01:22 It's popping left and right. It's like, yo, dude, get your balls out of that. I'm not done yet. It's fucking grip. It's fucking... crazy. All right. That is
Starting point is 03:01:36 sad as shit just working still. That is in there that long dude and when he takes out that it's not even
Starting point is 03:01:42 fried that much it's not even that much of like cooked it's like yo you got some strong balls last two names
Starting point is 03:01:48 literally last two Melfis 218 let's go let's go enjoying the view from the Dealy Plaza on the six floor and as always running out our list
Starting point is 03:01:54 the king of haphazard Merry Christmas to everybody all of you homeless people out there we hope you're doing well I hope you have a good
Starting point is 03:02:00 Christmas and you know I hope you get your toy or your fucking I don't know your whatever the fuck you want I hope you get it if you're a homeless person and you want a home I hope you don't get it because that means you're you'd no longer be a fan of us
Starting point is 03:02:15 so I hope nothing goes too well for everybody but you know he'll be going to get less homeless somehow yeah in the spirit of the holidays Merry Christmas we appreciate you we'll catch you next episode for New Year's What we leave right this guy doing
Starting point is 03:02:33 I stand up and I show Keith David my heart dick. I just come right at the camera. I come right at the camera. Keith, Keith, before we leave, and then you just bust. That's the last episode. That's the last episode. That would be crazy. If we had a full-on...
Starting point is 03:02:54 So let me set the stage. We have a full-on normal episode of the Star Tank with Keith David. We're interviewing. We're asking them all these questions. We're hearing about all these fascinating times from... Gargoyle, Halo, Mass Effect, all these, all these famous roles. We spend an hour and a half talking to him. And at the end, Casey goes, wait, before we go, lifts his shirt up with a hard penis, comes on command at the camera.
Starting point is 03:03:23 And that's it. And he just perfectly hits the webcam in the fucking, in the lid. What the hell is that? And that's how the podcast ends. That is it. That's the final podcast. We don't ever, we don't ever continue. We don't ever pick up the start to again from there. We all like go on separate ways.
Starting point is 03:03:48 Oh yeah, that's it. We refuse to talk about it. We've already said, once we get Keith David, we're done. There's never video proof of us all being in the same room again together. Like, it's just it. If we ever, look, if we ever somehow convinced Keith David to come on this travesty of a program, which after today I can't even imagine now that would even be the game
Starting point is 03:04:05 but then we would have to end the snark tank if we wanted to keep doing stuff we would have to make a whole new show we don't even make a new show that's it we accept that it's over if we wanted to continue we would have to be like damn the snark tank is gone we fulfilled the goal of the snark tank
Starting point is 03:04:22 that was the whole point is to get Keith David on the show so now we've got to do fucking I don't know I don't know somebody is standing up with a hard pick with their shirt up and coming up the camera is crazy. Yeah, I like like you've been jerking off the entire time, just edging.
Starting point is 03:04:43 But I've been really in the conversation, like really talking about that. Yeah, you couldn't even tell. Like he's probably in retrospect, he'd be impressed. How the hell do they pull that off? I've seen some wild shit in my day. The idea of just. You're cranking it and you're like, so when you were on this, when you were approached for the for the Halo series, what did you think that it would last? Like did you think that that was something that was going to be iconic for a lot of people?
Starting point is 03:05:20 Like the character of the Arbiter, right? Understanding the story you had, did you know, did you know what you were doing with that kind of character you're creating? Because granted, a lot of people do love Master Chief, but Arbiter is. you're all right you're right to stand on blah yeah
Starting point is 03:05:39 yeah in our scenario you probably you fucking would fail age and you would come too fast nah bro I'm a precise comer
Starting point is 03:05:45 I'm a very precise comer bro I've hit every woman I've wanted in the eye and I'm a precise comer
Starting point is 03:05:52 if I aim for the eyes in the eyes bro all right listen let's get the let's yeah three hours
Starting point is 03:05:58 man Jesus Christ right three hours Merry Christmas fucking damn it we're supposed Guys, for reference, this is supposed to be an hour and a half podcast. This is supposed to be a...
Starting point is 03:06:08 No, well, I mean, it's, it's Christmas, whatever. Like, it's... Yeah, Merry Christmas. If there was ever an appropriate time to have a long episode, why not today? So, Merry Christmas. Everybody, get the fuck out of here. Get out of here. Go. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 03:06:22 Get out. What are you fucking doing? Get out. Leave. Go!

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