The Snark Tank - #23: Keemstar Wars

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

Keem vs H3H3, Chris vs Jack Saint, and Joe Rogan vs YouTube? It's war season now, fellas!  Special thanks to Tim Dadabo, voice of 343 Guilty Spark for the intro.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcirc...le.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Hey, look, he's a little dead mean. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Snark Tank podcast. It's us again. It's us. It's the people you know. It's the people you love. Some of you hate us, but it's fine.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Hey, I'm Tom Sweeney. Welcome to the Snart Tank podcast. I am the host. Not him. I'm the host. I have the document, but you can spitball. I could try, okay. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Drive the show. Go. Let's hear it. Welcome to the Snart Tank podcast. Another week with me and, uh, me. You're repeating what I said. I know,
Starting point is 00:02:12 but I got to season myself up. It's so boring. Okay, I'm not boring, all right. So this week has been an awful lot of ridiculous things happening,
Starting point is 00:02:21 but we're going to give you some great-a-comedy. All right? The best kind of comedy you're terrible. Hold on, shut up, shut up. I'm not bad.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Shut up. We need a laugh track. Let me grow. All right, sorry about that, guys. Now continue, Chris. What's the dog? God.
Starting point is 00:02:39 What's the dog with you? I just want to get some housekeeping out of the way first. Thanks to everybody who supports us at Patreon.com slash the Snark Tank. It means a lot. We had a pretty good week this week. A lot of new people coming in kind of exploded a little bit, which is a pretty nice little gift in the interim of this really weird time we're all having. I also want to mention that we recently uploaded on the YouTube channel a Snartank animated segment
Starting point is 00:03:06 from an animator on YouTube called Candles. and you guys all seem to really like it, so thanks for that. Seeing that stuff is like really, really cool. I think we all really liked it. It's amazing. And it's actually super cool seeing the animator kind of interpret our podcast as if we're recording this as we're barreling down the road in a literal tank. I thought that concept was kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Nice touch. Yeah, so I'm glad somebody put a... That's not going to not be in my head now. That is how I imagine the show now going forward. So I appreciate that. So subscribe to the snark tank podcast sign up so we can get big enough to actually buy a tank. I think that's the next step. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 That'd be awesome. I would love to be instead of the tank. That's the goal. That's honestly the only reason I started this is like the second we make enough money to get a tank. I'm done. I'm like we're canceling the show. Yeah, we're all going our separate ways because, you know, the tank is the main goal. The snark is like kind of a byproduct of us wanting a tank.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, we're not even going to own it really. We're just going to buy one and put it on a plot of land and then lock it shut and then nobody's going to be able to move it. We're going to lock it shut and then we're going to rig it with a bunch of explosives. So if anyone goes inside of it, hey man, confetti. Anyway, so thanks for that. If you guys are compelled to make any more animated segments, we love that shit. And we would love to put that stuff out and like share it with everybody because we get a huge kick out of it. Also, there's some merch available at T-E-Strecht.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Spring.com. God damn it. Shut the fuck up. Twitter's exploding for me right now. Yeah. Twitter is popping on my phone, too. I don't know why the fuck. What did you guys do?
Starting point is 00:04:46 I think I know why. But yeah, so there's merch available at tspring.com slash stores slash snark dash tank. It's not a very elegant URL, but that's where the clothes are for now. Seems to be doing pretty well. So thanks for the support on that end. And I guess to start to kick things off, should probably talk about the the big thing that's happening, even though it's been
Starting point is 00:05:11 kind of nauseatingly talked about, which is, you guessed it. We'll see. Drumroll. Keemstar. Keemstar versus H3. This doesn't stop. This has been going on for how long now at this point? I thought it was bussy.
Starting point is 00:05:26 About a week or something. It feels like years. I really can't stand it anymore. Like, I just don't want to, I don't want to hear about it anymore. It just seems like they're just going back. It just seems like they're going back and forth, and I feel like they're going to be ancient by the time they've finished. Like, oh, here's my response to Ethan's fifth video.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh, here's Ethan's response to Keem Star's 10th video. And it's getting kind of exhausting to keep up with it. Kind of exhausting. It's been exhausting, my guy. It's been, you know, from the very beginning, it's been unfortunate, especially because the whole president of people, all of these, and let's be real. Let's actually set the real tone here.
Starting point is 00:06:11 The reason why this is unfortunate is because stupid people. Stupid people can't help but like say, because look, if Ethan puts his video out and he talks his shit, he does his stuff, whatever, but then people have to get involved, the stupid people of the internet and be like, hey, we got to hit up G-field. Oh, now we got to hit up Old Spice. Well, who else is sponsored by who? We got to take down everybody. And I'm like, well, you guys are so fucking dumb. You can't just sit down and be spectators.
Starting point is 00:06:37 You got to get involved, and it just pisses me off. People like to feel useful to people that they're fans of, and it's very strange. Like, you shouldn't, I guess to feel, I don't know how you could possibly be listening to this podcast and not be aware of what's going on, but just in case you aren't. Basically, Ethan dropped this huge video, an exposed video, if I'm going to borrow a term from 2015, on. Keemstar and I think everybody probably knows who Keemstar is at this point he's kind of a world-renowned jackass and there's just a lot of there's so much video video and audio evidence of just Keemstar being like just kind of like one of the worst people to ever grace the face of the earth so a lot of the information in Ethan's video isn't necessarily new but it was this is the first
Starting point is 00:07:28 time it's all been compiled in a in this sort of way and it's also the first time that it's really seen really any kind of ramifications. And part of that is because Ethan mentioned Keem Starr's main sponsor G-Fuel. And that has kind of started this whole kind of weird war on the internet of, like, Keem's fans going after H-3's sponsors, and Ethan's fans going after Keem's sponsors, and it's just this whole fucking sponsor-laden cluster fuck, which, by the way, is I feel the need to remind everybody
Starting point is 00:08:03 is exactly how the original adpocalypse started. Yeah, 100%. We'll see how this, we'll see how this goes. It might not... That's basically it. Yeah. It's super toxic and cancerous
Starting point is 00:08:15 and I hate it because I don't understand why people care. First of all, it's been... I have not been super into internet and I know full well that Keemstar has been a piece of shit for a long time.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It's no surprise to anyone. That's not new information. He's fucking horrible. He's a bad person. But to have this all going on, like, it's so, it's so dangerous because, like, I hate to be the person to say this, but I feel like the internet breeds a lot of very bad mentalities into people, that people think that, like, if I don't like this guy, I'm just going to attack things about him to get him cancer and ruin it.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's like, you shouldn't, um, H3 should never have gotten GFU involved. That's something you should have never done. He should never got a Dufu involved. I agree with that. You just have to attack the character. Look, I could make a video where I could attack GameStars character very well. Myself. I could just talk about shit he's done and insult him violently.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And that's all he had to do. He didn't have to bring anything else in there. He just sucks. Yeah, I'm of two minds about it because on one hand, I really don't support the idea that you should go after people's sponsors just because you don't like them. I think that's like a pretty obvious, like, you don't do that. It's just general etiquette. mainly, not necessarily because it's not a reasonable thing to do,
Starting point is 00:09:36 but mainly because the, the existence of that tactic on YouTube specifically always has more ramifications for other people than it does the people getting involved. Exactly. Like, I said this, I don't know if I said this on, I don't know, I don't know if I've said this publicly or anything, but I know I was having this conversation where I said, basically, you know, Ethan and Heelah have a very, very successful clothing line. Like, they're good.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You know, uh, Keem Star has his money everywhere. Like, I, I'm pretty sure that Keem Star's money has investments in, like, the Turkish military. And, like, Kim Jong-un's, like, clone replacement podperson program. Like, I don't know where the fuck Keemstar gets his money, but I'm certain that most of it is not from drama alert. So I think even if G-fuel comes out of, even if G-fuel dropped him, he's also still going to be fine. The people who are really in the crossfire here are people who are like smaller who do genuinely rely on sponsors who now have this kind of thing opened up to them. So I understand the sponsor argument from that perspective. But I also can't help but have a part, I have like something in my head that says, maybe don't wear your sponsor's logo on your forehead while you're making all this insane content.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You know, like while you're like threatening people and while you're like, threatening people and while. you're just being like, hey, you know, you're a pedophile. He-he-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. Maybe don't have G-fuel, like, in the foreground all the time. I feel like that's just basic. Like, if I worked at Sears, right, and I was wearing the Sears uniform, and I went outside, like, I was on break, and then I assaulted somebody in the street wearing the Sears uniform.
Starting point is 00:11:16 If they heard about that, I'd get fired, and that would be my fault. Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's just this weird kind of, I don't know where, I don't know how I feel about all this exactly. I see both of the sides, because I'm definitely more of the mind. I haven't talked about it in the video I made about this whole situation,
Starting point is 00:11:37 about like say, hey, you don't know if that extra G-fuel money was funding part of his team, people that were employed, because that's what a lot of people do. They're like, I'm going to use this money to fund other stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And so that's why I feel like it's really dangerous to go after people's stuff like that because, yeah, it could destroy other people's lives. It's kind of like what you were saying. Exactly. But I do totally understand. understand about, and this is what I said that, I think I would have no problem.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I would have zero problem if Ethan made this video didn't mention GFuel at all, and GFuel wanted to cut ties with Keemstar just because of the video itself. I'd be like, well, yeah, that's, that's, that's on you, son. Like, you're, you, your, your shit got exposed, your dirty laundry is exposed, and now they left because why wouldn't they? I would, I would have zero problem. Yeah, yeah. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It was too much pointing at, like, it was like too much pointing at this object being like, hey, you should do something about this. Hey, look at this. That's there. And they were like, I guess people are like, you know, the internet swarms. So they're going to fucking obviously cascade G fuel and they're going to be like, I were going to get rid of that. But then Kim with his fucking bio fucking dumpster fans are going to fucking obviously jump on fucking H-3's case and fucking ruin him. Yeah. Have you have, have you seen the most recent?
Starting point is 00:12:55 I don't even know what number video it is. The video the team put out today. I watched it just now. It was the worst thing ever seen in my life. I had to calm down, to be honest. I had to calm down. Because I'm going to record my podcast that I do solo. And I'm going to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And I was getting angry. Because the thing I mean... He used someone else's video. He did so much. Defend himself. He did so much. Well, that's, that's, I don't see anything wrong. He did so much wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Somebody's just making a good point. Like, I didn't, I didn't actually finish the whole video. I stopped. I stopped so early on because one of, one of the biggest points of contention was Kingstar at one point accused an old man as being a pedophile when there was just no evidence. Like, he totally fucked it up. He, he just ruined this guy's life for like several years straight. Yeah. And that was brought up in Ethan's video.
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Starting point is 00:15:53 And one of the points that, one of the points that Keemstar brought up to kind of defend himself was to point out, well, Ethan also accused people of being pedophiles. Roll it, and he rolls this clip of Ethan talking about how there's like a lot of child molestation in the Catholic Church. And I'm like, what? Yeah. How is this an equivalent?
Starting point is 00:16:17 This isn't even close to it. And then he goes on to say, and then he goes on to say where it's like, Oh, the Catholic Church has done a lot of good. I was born in a Catholic Church, and I was like, oh. That makes sense. I can't tell you how... The plot narrows and the fog lifts,
Starting point is 00:16:33 and many things are revealed about Teamstar. Just like, all I thought, all I thought was like, oh, okay, so all those cover-ups are now just the second worst thing that the Catholic Church has done. But I don't know, man. That was like a really bad video. I don't know. I can't. Okay, go ahead, Derek.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Say it. Spit your piece. Okay. That particular, because I think we're all in agreement, everybody listening, that the most agreedest that he can do is abuse children. And Ethan was making a joke because he did say, what do they do other than molest children or something? That's an obvious joke.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But people are pretending to have. And this is the thing that makes me so mad about all this drama. All of these people are trying to pretend that it's about morality. All of them. Everybody is like, oh, no, like this person's immoral, this person is more. So like, oh, like the Catholic Church, how dare you say anything bad about them? Are you fucking kidding me, bro? The amount of cases, dude, the amount of cases just in a 10-year span.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Let's just talk about the 2000s. There's 3,000 priests that were investigated. That's just then. This shit's been going on since the, 80s when it blew wide open. And obviously, people were fucking kids in the Catholic Church before then. You know, like...
Starting point is 00:17:57 Probably since the beginning of that whole entire thing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that... I don't know what... It's so weird. Like, he... Like, is the implication that, like,
Starting point is 00:18:06 he's trying to make it seem like Ethan's saying that every Catholic is a bad person or, like, a pedophile? Because that's just... It's so clearly not what's being said. It's such a... It's such an over... That's such an over...
Starting point is 00:18:17 How'd I explain it? It's such... It's an obvious joke. He's... It's a joke, obviously. Yeah, the Catholic Church has been a pretty obvious punching bag. It's a pretty easy joke to make, but it's a, I mean, it's also, like, one of the safest jokes you can ever, you could. It's one of the safest targets to use as a form of comedy.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like, specifically, I remember, like, one of the funniest images I remember from back in the day was that, was that Halloween costume with, like, a little boy wrapped around his, like, around his waist. Yeah, that's a hilarious. That's a classic, like, offensive Halloween costume. It was, like, one of the first images that I ever. saw on the internet that was like supposed to be like food shock humor. There's a few classics, right?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah. It's a very few go-toos. There's race. There's sexual orientation and then there's making fun of Christianity. Those are the go-tos for just making fun of the Well, specifically, specifically the Catholic Church. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Specifically the bureaucracy and the kind of hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Absolutely. Like, I know plenty of Catholics, you know, and they're fine. But like, how many people do you know who are like really, like no one's this is also another thing like there are plenty of Catholics in the United States they have no affiliation with the Catholic
Starting point is 00:19:27 church you know what I mean like they go to church sometimes and they like you know they make bagels for like the old people in their neighborhood but they're not like going to the Vatican you know I'm like you know they're not really involved in that but it's still like such a huge
Starting point is 00:19:43 that's a huge scandal that I'm surprised that he would even bring up to defend that's so crazy why would you bring Even South Park. He's a kid. He's a kid. Yeah, even South Park. South Park made a, like, a good point about it and stuff because it was all of that stuff got exposed.
Starting point is 00:19:59 They went through all of this stuff. They got exposed. And then the people that were following, the people that go to church were like, all right, that's it. We're atheists now. And, you know, because that's how a lot of people felt like, hey, how come you guys know about these scandals and you're still supporting the Catholic Church? So they touched on everything to the point where they even touched on some of the excuses to why these priests or whatever were dittling kids. was that, well, it says we can't bang any pussy, so we got to bang little boys.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Essentially. We got to get some bussy since we can't get pussy. Which I don't agree with. I don't agree with that all. Wow, you're really brave. I'm just going to say it right now. Sweeney and tie that, all right? That's not cool.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Here's the thing, sweetie. The more you say that, the more it sounds like you're trying to save face. Yeah, I bet you're fucking sweating right now. I'm not, I don't think I'm sweating. I don't know. Sweetie, there's no reason to say, by the way,
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm against fucking children. Because that's kind of a given. Like, we just assume that that's true. I know that, but you've got to clarify sometimes, man. You don't really have to clarify. Are you, are you doing things? I'm not doing things.
Starting point is 00:21:03 That I'm not aware of? I'm just saying, you know, this world's full of fucking, people get accused of shit all the time. That poor old man was, it's playing a video game. Next thing you know. Rune scape, of all games,
Starting point is 00:21:15 runescape. Just an in it, he's his history. heart was he probably just has a good heart genuinely he seems like he does uh he seems like he does and in some of the video uh and this is to me this is fucking gross dude because you accuse the guy of being a pedal to me it's like no matter if whether he forgives you or not he or he has that right because you essentially fucked him seven ways to sunday and so all the sudden keem starts saying see this guy's name's tony like tony the old man actually forgave me And now he's just saying all this stuff to milk it, stuff for clout and everything.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And I'm like so fucking what, dude. You can't, like you accused him of being the worst thing on this earth. This is worse than being a murderer. People in prison want to kill the shit out of you for diddling kids. And they don't care if you've killed people. They're like, oh, you kill how many people you killed? Oh, that's it. But if you touch a kid, they want to murder you immediately.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, it is. It's definitely the. worst thing that someone could call you because it's it's it's just the thing that everybody everybody just kind of unanimously agrees that uh yeah that kind of person is like kind of subhuman like even the guards the prisoners they'll they'll look the other way if you murder a if you murder a child molester in prison this is the thing all right this other thing is that once that is attached to your person once that is attached to you it does not go away even if it's proven false That's very true.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Do anything involving sexual assault, even if it's fake or not, that is what you are labeled as in a community. You are labeled as a person who even had someone think they were doing that, which is obscene and it's terrible. It never just really goes away. Yeah, because the mere existence of the allegation is suspicious in and of itself. Yeah. And in fairness, like, I think that's like, that's not necessarily an unfair, like, pre-internet, that's not an unfair lens, I think. Like if you hear that someone's a, if you hear that someone's a child molester, it's like, where the fuck would that even come from? You know, for the internet.
Starting point is 00:23:22 But now it's like one of those things where it's like, oh, you could say fucking anybody, anything about anybody now. And it's just like, it just gets picked up by some random drama channel. I agree with you or not Chris, but I do. I understand what you mean. But the thing is that so many things happen and so many things are blown out of proportion and then they're not communicated right. And people get fucked over for shit. that. Right. Yeah. That's why I'm like, you know what, being a sex offender. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms.
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Starting point is 00:24:36 of people, animals, and the planet through food. Eggs you could feel good about. So next time you're in the store, look for the black carton in the egg aisle and visit VitalFarms.com to learn more. Vital Farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
Starting point is 00:24:56 It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of years recently that said $20 billion. One.
Starting point is 00:25:12 $20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, $20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law Firm, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit for the people.com for an office near you. Is the worst. You're the worst kind of person. But the thing is that people get accused the shit they didn't do all the time. Years ago, there was this fucking 19-year-old kid who went on like the early versions of a dating app. It must have been like our old school tender, like 2008 and shit.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And he met up with this girl and a girl told him that she was 18 years old. So he slept with her, right? And then comes to find out she's like 15 or 16 years old. And that kid got registered as a sex friend and he did. time in prison and then got out and his life is ruined now. Like, so like that happens, bro. Like, yeah, that's not fake. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:26:25 it happens often. I'm not saying a lot of the cases of people actually sexually assault people as lies. I'm just saying like that stipulation is not a joke. It will ruin your life. It affects where you move. It affects the things you can acquire. You cannot have things that have internet access anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:41 That's it. Gone. It's actually, it's, wait, wait, hold on. Is that true? You can't have internet access? It can't be true. You can't have certain amount of internet access. You can't live in certain radiuses of like where schools are. I know that. I know that. But like they can limit your internet.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I feel like internet is so ubiquitous to how we even survive. I'm pretty sure they do, dude. I'm not exactly positive, but I think they do. I think you're limited to, they actually limit you to what you can access. I think that's very true because I know for a fact when 6'9 was accused or something of, what was it? Like there was like a 13 year old girl or something and she was like stripping. I can't remember the story exactly. But he got convicted of something.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And I think a part of the thing was like, okay, probation, all this stuff. You can't go on Facebook. Like there was a part of it. Like you had to like stay off of certain things because to not, you know, I don't know, to not be tempted, I guess. But I'd say crazy. It's fucking madness. Seems like it would make more sense to just monitor them. Just kind of be like, okay, well, listen, you have no freedom.
Starting point is 00:27:47 now and you can you can use the internet but we'll be watching we'll be checking in yeah something like that I mean I'm sure they probably do do something like that right because how would they stop you yeah yeah no they would have to monitor
Starting point is 00:28:02 because like you could just easily lie but hey let's uh on the subject though that way you're talking about like say being falsely accused of stuff like that or something like that can be ruined your life uh in that video with Kimstar actually with the old guy um there was
Starting point is 00:28:17 another scandal that was being brought up like the catfishing thing it said like he got catfished like some adult male or something uh supposedly was posing as a young girl i think underage and was talking to this old man or something and he got catfish and now i don't know if that's true or not a lot of people are saying that there's no proof other than just what people are putting out there it might be a lot of people are great men a lot of people are savvy at photoshopping and and using what is it the what is it the the element thing what is it called inspect element inspect element yeah when you use inspect element and like so there's a lot of people that do a lot of shady shit to especially people that really ride for keem star could easily just fake some shit or whatever and be
Starting point is 00:29:03 like see he was right all along and i'm just like dude why are you going after you already you fucking, you sent a haymaker to this old man. And now that he's punching back a little bit, you're like, you're trying to bury him. I'm like, dude, you fucked him. Just leave, just, just let him be. He can't, he's a cage. There's, I want to kind of actually,
Starting point is 00:29:25 I want to actually connect this to something that we talked about recently, which was, there's a, there's a video of Keemstar that I found that I just thought was so, so damningly endemic or, like, evidential of his just weird power trip. kind of personality where it's just him talking about how he's you know I have friends at YouTube
Starting point is 00:29:47 I'm untouchable I have friends at Twitch I have friends at Twitter you know I can destroy you I can take you off the internet and he was talking about this he was talking in reference to some guy that was also just not a particularly great person as far as I know that's right yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:30:02 but but the just the fact that somebody exists with that much power and is willing to just sort of flaunt it like yeah, you know, I'm untouchable, I can't be touched. How does that not remind you of the Twitch mod that we just talked about? Like last week, where she was talking about how, like, I'm on the advisory council at Twitch. You know, I can't, I have power now.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I'm going to come for you. I can't be, I can't be touched. I'm untouchable. It's the same kind of power trip fucking mentality. And, dude, listen. I agree. I don't agree. Listen, I don't agree with Ethan.
Starting point is 00:30:39 going after sponsors. I think that was like a really shitty thing and it's obviously like ballooning into this insane conflagration that nobody can contain. But Keemstar is genuinely like one of the worst people on the platform and the platform would be infinitely better without him. And I have no bone. I don't care about saying that. I think it's at this point. I agree with you too. At this point I feel like you'd have to be actually insane not to understand this basic. There's so much evidence of him just doing insane and doing and saying insane shit that I don't know how somebody could come out and just defend him.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like that dude that he has, that little boy that he has, his little boy slave, Kavas? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's so, he just constantly defends of it. It's like, dude, man, you don't have to do that. And I know why he does it, because, like, Kemp basically created him. Yeah, yeah, that's right. You would have no career without, without Kemp.
Starting point is 00:31:34 They actually were beefing for a while. They were beefing for a while, dude. Hold on. What are you saying, Darry? I was saying they were, Kim Star and Cavos were beefing for a while back then. That's all I found out about Cavos was, and Kimstar was bragging that he made him. Like, this is well documented. Dude, he just takes credit for everything.
Starting point is 00:31:53 That's the thing. It's like, I saw a lot of people going like, oh, Kimstar's my good friend. You know, he visited me at my father's funeral, and he did all this nice shit. And it's like, dude, he's just, he's, that's a debt. He's going to cash that in. That's what he does. He cashes things in. He's like, how could you turn against me?
Starting point is 00:32:10 How could you criticize me for valid reasons? Don't you remember when I did this very, very nice thing for you one time? Well, let's even put this in. That's what he does. Let's put this into perspective. Because like, let's say, let's say you're defending Kim, right? Let's see your defending Kim, right? If I ever went on, like, let's say like I ever got to a heated argument with somebody online, right?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Which I don't because I'm not 12 anymore. But let's say I did. I would never just start saying the shit that Kim says. to people. Like, I don't do that. Like, he has, like, fucking little kid, like, explosive arguments of people. And it's like, bro, aren't you, like, in your 30s, my guy? Like, what do you? He also, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:48 he's like this, he's, he's a 40-year-old dude who, like, brags about doxing people. And it's like, I don't know, man. I, there's a few things that, there's a few things to take from this, though, really, because uh, they, they say absolute power corrupts
Starting point is 00:33:04 absolutely, which is the realest shit. And, and this is something, too, that I can even throw a little bit of shade Ethan's way because there's a pattern of behavior that people express when they know they did something that was kind of not the best move, they really jumped to defend themselves. And one thing that I've seen is Ethan like constantly trying to like defend like the Etica thing. Because I think I was like, oh, that was unnecessary to bring up Eidica. Like you could, there's a million things you can bring up on Keemstar.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And I don't think like say I just, I'm not a fan of using, you know, death as like, to throw it in somebody's face or something because it just, the people that are grieving, they just, like I said, they got to relive that shit. Like, I just, I, I totally empathize with that. And there's certain things that I'm like, I have a good thing after you're done, but continue.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Okay, okay. So there's things like that that I'm like, okay, uh, what we can do is move forward. Just own up to this shit and then move the fuck on. I think it's as simple as that. Be like, all right, that was, that was distasteful, but it doesn't ruin the major point that, that Keemstar has been a blight on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And also something that I, from learning, that a lot of Normies that are learning about Kim Star is that he's kind of like the Twitch people that never get banned or suspended for anything. Like they just do shit. Like to the point where Kim Star has been banned from YouTube, but then he just claims somebody else is running it. Somebody else owns his channel. So he's able to be on it.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He has that loophole. When you know damn well, none of us would ever be able to fucking do that. Like he's gotten to a point where he's, has enough clout and enough people backing him to where he can just get away with fucking everything and the last thing i just want to say is that uh to the people that are defending him i understand that keemstar has been nice to a lot of people i know a lot of people that were shitty to a bunch of other people but they were nice to me i know people like that too the thing is you have to make that conscious decision to be like all right i recognize this guy as a scumbag
Starting point is 00:35:04 am i going to associate with this scumbag or not and because you're you're going to make that conscious decision to be like Because you know how they say, like, people kind of judge you on the company that you keep. And so it's one of those things that you kind of have to make that decision. Like, are you going to continue to, like, say, I don't hate Keemstar, to be honest. I recognize that he's a scumbag. I mean, I've, I even said, look, this was probably like four years ago when grade A under A and all those people were making false allegations about him, they were just making up shit. Him and Leafie were just talking shit and making up stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And he put out a lot of. long video defending himself. Keemstar did. And then I tweeted saying, I don't like Keemstar, but this was a pretty good defense. I said something like that. And he liked the tweet, which is weird because I was like, how the fucker? You're just searching for your name and seeing who's saying what? It was kind of weird because I didn't.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Of course he is. Yeah. So it was one of those things where I'm like, I recognize four or five years ago that he was a scumbag. And so I'm not friends with the guy. And I feel like the people that are being all buddy, buddy. however they won't be friends with I'm Alex there's a bunch of people have a problem with I'm Alex
Starting point is 00:36:12 or I've seen a Bunting our friend get a bunch of shit literally and then like they're acting like these people are such degenerates but then they'll be totally buddy buddy with Keemstar I'm like get the fuck out of here like it's insane like the hate that Buntie got I even tweeted Bunti personally I was like no matter all the bullshit that you're going through Bunti you're still my boy and I love you dude
Starting point is 00:36:31 because like say what you want about Bonte, Bonte's a great guy. Look, there's a difference. There's a difference between saying things that piss people off sometimes and just being like, I'm untouchable. I can't be touched. I have friends everywhere. I'm so powerful.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I can't wait to docks this person. Here's his name. Here's his address. And doing it consistently for several years. Like there's just an objective difference in scumbag. Even the fact that you do that. Like, you should never think of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Like, that's insane. No matter how much I don't like somebody, I'm never going to reveal their personal information. Because people are fucking crazy. Exactly. And here's the thing, too. It's like, you could say all sorts of shit about me. You could say all sorts of shit about Bonte.
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Starting point is 00:38:29 I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan? and Morgan. What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound
Starting point is 00:39:12 law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfram. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forethepeople.com for an office near you. None of that, even if you compiled all of it in the same list would amount to even half of the shit that Keem Star has done that's like just completely like indefensible
Starting point is 00:39:39 and I think that's just math that's math that people should take into account like people it bugs me to see people being like oh well Ethan and Keem are the same it's like ah not really not really yeah not even slightly close no one to hero but one is definitely worse and keep in mind like yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:39:57 that's kind of how I feel and listen I've met both of these people I've met Keemstar I've met Keemstar on three different occasions and he was very gracious to me. I was totally fine. I was like, all right, well, you're here, I guess. I'll deal with this. I'm so happy I wasn't here that day. He was at our part. It's the only reason I'm talking about this now, by the way, is because we're moving and I know the Keenstar can't doxman.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh, man. That would be bad. So, I've been holding on to it for a while. But, I don't know, man. I'm glad, even though like a lot of this fallout is happening that, you know, Ethan probably should have, you know, been a little bit more careful about. I'm glad that this is happening. If only just because I know that there are
Starting point is 00:40:43 a lot of people who have a lot of problems with Kingstar who just don't talk about it, because they know that he has so much clout and power and he could just kind of crush them. 100%. And Ethan, putting out this video as irresponsible as some of the points were, specifically with Erika, I do agree that it was like a bit
Starting point is 00:40:59 unnecessary. The sponsor stuff is a bit unnecessary. I think it's given kind of came of a focal point, like where he just sort of looks at Ethan and it's like, oh, it's Ethan, Ethan. And now everybody can just sort of like release themselves and just sort of dig into this dude. Yeah, yeah. Without real
Starting point is 00:41:18 any real fear because like what is he going to respond to fucking literally everybody else? Yeah, and then prove Ethan's points correct by trying to go after all the people that are talking shit now. Like, so it actually, that's one thing that I was surprised in how many people have come out. And I've even seen some people. This was interesting because I saw one of this one girl that's Ettica's friend. And she actually is on the opposite end where she's furious at Keem Star, even to this day, about like, say, platforming him when he was having in his manic state and everything.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And so, like that was my point too. I was going to make that point also, but continue to Eric. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you go take it away, man. Take it away. So for me, I think he was a little too, like the thing about it is that what Etyka did, that was Etyka's choice. So to put that on Keemstar was a bit much.
Starting point is 00:42:14 It was. It was a bit much. I wasn't okay with it. But the thing is this, for Keemstar to think that the time to interview someone was immediately after seeing everything he was going. through right after he got out the hospital he thought it would be the time to just interview him and then the comments he was making during that interview and the shit he was saying it's like you like does he not understand what his words mean like i think he does i think he has no
Starting point is 00:42:45 understanding of his actions like he has no i don't think so like he has no clue what he's saying or what he's doing he i don't i don't he doesn't care he truly doesn't um here's the thing he his content can only exist if there are problems on the platform if people are fighting if there is drama and he has taken he's he has made no effort to hide the fact that he manufactures this stuff
Starting point is 00:43:12 so like when when he's interviewing edica in the hide of a manic episode yeah that's drama that's gonna that's gonna get me clicks like that's what he's concerned about it's kind of ironic that he it's painfully ironic to me that Keem Star is the kind of person who just doesn't believe
Starting point is 00:43:31 that mental illness is a thing while also being probably one of the most mentally ill people I've ever seen. Like he's definitely like listen, I'm going to make this accusation and I think it's valid. Keem is 100% a sociopath. I was going to say that. I was going to say that.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Like without even a slight amount, there's no doubt in my mind, dude. It wouldn't surprise me at all. It would surprise me less if Hillary was an Eldridge being. Yeah, like, Teamstar sociopath, like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, there's definitely, I definitely, I agree. And that's something that, you know, we don't throw around lightly, right? But he definitely is on the spectrum of sociopathy.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I definitely think that because the way that he, the way how easily he can flip on stuff like that, where even where it's not, it's not like, say, for example, it's not about etiquette for him. It's about defending himself from that he's responsible. I mean, the thing is, because I know he never felt responsible at all, but a normal person would feel some sort of guilt, even if they're not, even if they're not guilty. Like, let me give you an example of this girl that I used to kind of, I was involved with in 2010, and then we kind of stopped talking around 2012, and then 2013, I was like, I wonder how she's doing.
Starting point is 00:44:54 and I'll check her Facebook timeline. And then I saw all these rest and peace things and she, she OD'd. And the thing that actually really bummed me out and it kind of like haunted me was, I know how important it was for me to talk to her and like keep in touch with her because she did have mental health issues that I didn't really understand that much at the time, but I did know how important I was in her life. So I felt so bad when I lost contact with her that like I could have done something.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I could have possibly saved her life or something. If I would have, like it's, and I know it's not my fault, but I kill, I still can't help but feel like shit when I'm like, damn. That's why. You have a heart. Yeah, because that's, that's, that's a human emotion. It's not a lizard fucking, you don't have a lizard. You don't have a lizard, you don't have a lizard cerebrate. So you're able to have those fucking feelings.
Starting point is 00:45:42 No, I totally get that. It makes sense. And it's, I don't know, man. He's, he's, we've, we've talked enough about this. Yeah, there's plenty of, this is, plenty of other. This is, this is, like, we're never going to bring it up again. You're never going to hear anything about it. I wouldn't say that, man, because this shit is still in the, we're still in the midst of this.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Something fucking crazy could still happen. So never say never. That's, yeah, I really, damn it, you're right. You're right. Something insane could drop, but like, I don't know. He drops a video about me. I'll be like, holy shit, thanks. What, Ethan makes a video about you?
Starting point is 00:46:15 By the way. You remember Tom Sweeney saying he hates the gays? And I would tweet that out. I would retweet his video. Hey Okay, well, no, go ahead, go ahead There was I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:28 I guess you can move on What are some of the other Well, you know what I'm the other thing You know what I want to talk about Chris Sure So I woke up this morning And I checked my Twitter as I usually do And I saw
Starting point is 00:46:42 Some fucking jerk off Talking gang loads of shit about you And then like I saw soon after that you dropped a video on it. So I was like, oh, because I was actually, and I wanted to talk about it in my other podcast. I'm like, I have seen so much unfair shit levied at your way.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Like, that you're like far right or alt-right or something. And I've never seen, I've never seen. I've never seen. You know what it reminds me of, Chris? It reminds me of the people that that gave away the okay hand gesture. that they're like, oh, somebody used it that's a piece of shit. Now it's racist or something. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Wait, what? You know what I'm talking about, sweetie? Like the okay hand, Mike, when you just do the okay? Yes, when you go okay, that is a huge thing. That started, that's the whole story in itself. I'm not trying to get into that. It was just like, the people that are talking shit about Chris, they remind me of that because I,
Starting point is 00:47:47 why don't you, why don't you break down what happened to you, Chris? recently because this has been happening a lot. I remember you're seeing your Kotaku thing, that article about you. Yeah, yeah. This happens all the time. Yeah. People, people, I think what happens is, like, I make content that criticizes specific people, and that those, and I thumbnail it in a very eye-catching way, and, like, I title it in very eye-catching ways. And I think what happens is people see those videos, and they assume that it's coming from the same lens as every other video like it,
Starting point is 00:48:18 which I think that there's probably, there's probably a lot, I think it's fair to assume that there's probably like a lot of right-wing content that goes after the deer girl. I think that's probably a fair assumption to me. Sure, yeah, yeah. But the problem is that people just sort of look at the thumbnail
Starting point is 00:48:32 and just kind of assume that that's what it is without actually watching. It's insane. How many people will just criticize me, not watch the video, and then they'll pretend like they watched it and still just completely missing. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Basically, I just, yesterday, I received like a bunch of weird, notifications about like, hey, this dude's talking weird shit about you, and he was like, and it was about the video I made on the deer girl, which I think was pretty, was fairly tame, as far as I know. I think especially in comparison to some of the stuff I was making in, like, 2016, I feel like I saw it, and you were, you were, I will say, you were, I will say, you were, unreasonably fair to her, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Unreasonably, holy shit. I didn't even include the clip of her. I didn't even include the clip. Okay, here's the thing. I didn't name the video Twitch, Dear Girl. I didn't put her in the thumbnail. I didn't clickbait her at all, dude. I didn't draw attention to the fact that the video was about her at all. Yeah. And I was fair with her criticisms. I didn't even mention the fact that she was like, hey, you know, a lot of gamers are white supremacists. I didn't bring that clip up. You know, I spent maybe a total of 30 seconds, 30 seconds max kind of poking. fun at the fact that she was a deer. And even then, it was, like, more about just talking about why it's okay to just sort of poke fun at somebody who thinks this kind of insane shit while also having a power
Starting point is 00:50:00 trip. And this dude just sort of went off on it and just sort of levied a lot of criticisms that I'd been getting for a long time. And so I was like, oh, well, here's an opportunity to make money. I could just respond to this. It's literally what I thought. I was like, I need to make another video. I'm feeling like an itch to make a video, but I don't have anything to talk about.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And I didn't have anything that was ready quite yet. So I saw this guy, and I was like, okay, well, these are a lot of criticisms I've been getting sporadically for the last, like, several years. And they're all contained in this one Twitter thread. So let me just make a video and address it. And it's doing pretty well. It's the video's doing well. So thanks, dude. Thanks for the money.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Thanks for the money. Seriously. Like, it's doing pretty good. Well, these people are so silly. I sold a boatload of shirts off it already. Nice. These people are so fucking silly, man. They're so silly.
Starting point is 00:50:51 This never ends. I remember one time. Actually, I can't remember what the video was, but I took a nuanced approach to it. It might have been something that, you know, most of the, I would say, the reactionary content, they're all mad about everything. And I'm kind of, and I was like, why are you guys freaking out about this? Like, what do you even care? You don't even consume this? I think it was one of those angles.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I think I remember what it was, but I can't be too sure. It might have, but what happened was a bunch of thumbnails were collected by, I can't remember. She has red hair on Twitter and she's like a feminist. I can't remember what the fuck her name is. But she collected a bunch of thumbnails and then one of them was mine. And then somebody tagged me and said, actually some black guys take on it was really good. And then she said, well, I wouldn't know because I didn't watch it. And I'm like, what the fuck, man?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Dude, they just don't. It's so, it's always true. It's straight up always, because nobody can watch the videos and come away from them, unless you're like really just far gone. No one can watch them in good faith and like interpret them the way
Starting point is 00:52:02 that these people interpret them. It's pretty, it's pretty fucking wild. Yeah, they can't, they can't, it is impossible to watch one of your videos and come away with, well, this guy's far right. This guy, this guy, this guy, What's weird about it, what's weird about is that I think the main catalyst for the, for the backlash, if you could even really call it. It's not really that much. But it was, I went on a stream, I went on Vosch's channel. And Vosch is like a left wing dude. He does a lot of like, left-leaning political streams and stuff like that. And I went on his channel just to kind of talk about stuff. And it was, it was just kind of like a, I want to say like an Oprah style interview, but it was just kind of like we were just talking about stuff. And I was talking about how, yeah, you know, I wish I,
Starting point is 00:52:46 Like in the past, like, I wish I had, like, worded things better because I'm sure that some people used my content in ways that I didn't want it to be used. And I guess for some reason that tracked in their heads as, like, an apology. And they were like, oh, well, I don't buy his apology. And it's like, dude, I never apologized. I'm not saying sorry. I think those videos are funny as hell. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I think they're still funny. Oh, yeah. The difference is, like, like, they don't really want, because even I was talking about how like, yeah, the musicals were just completely taken out of my hands, and that's kind of the problem with musicals. Or music in general is that... This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms. Let's talk eggs. Vital Farms pasture raised eggs, to be exact. My favorites, the only kind I've got in my fridge.
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Starting point is 00:54:38 That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?
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Starting point is 00:55:23 The intent of the writer is often just sort of completely done away with the second it's out in the wild. And people can just sort of interpret it however the hell they want. And when I realized that that was happening, I stopped making the musicals because I was just like, I just don't want to deal with this. I don't want to be, I don't want to be people's fucking political anthems, you know? Like, that's not fun for me. I feel yeah. So I stopped for like three years and then they were like, oh, well, he should have stopped. And it's like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:55:51 What stopped me? I haven't done it for three years. What are you talking about? They don't want, they don't, the thing is it's like, this is the main thesis of the video that I made was that people, the people who I'm talking about, who go after shit like this, who like demand apologies. They don't actually want the people that they're demanding apologies from to change and be better and grow as people. they just kind of want the apology. They don't want the functional purpose of that apology
Starting point is 00:56:17 that entails of like, you know, the person growing and changing and adapting to the world around them. They just want the words so that they can feel special or feel grovel to. Yeah, they want the power of it. They want the power of you kneeling before them and saying, I'm sorry, opposed to you actually growing and changing from what happened.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and I'm just not going to do that because I don't value that. I don't value, even when people, People like, this happens a lot on YouTube in general, like even just outside of my sphere, outside of our sphere, where people will demand people to apologize for things. And it's like, what are you doing? Like, if you, here's a, if you demand an apology from someone and they apologize, that's not an apology. Yeah. It's a force interaction right there.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You're making them, the best apology is one that isn't demanded, you know, and one that isn't, you know, coaxed out of them. Because that means it's a real apology. It means that they're like, okay, I'm really sorry. You know, I feel bad. here's it and they didn't need to be accosted into apologizing. Otherwise, you're just, you just want the words. You just want the words. And it's just so fucking lame. I literally don't apologize unless I mean it. I literally don't like, I don't say I'm sorry because what happens when you say I'm sorry so often.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Like, I worked in retail until maybe like a month ago until I quit and started doing fucking, fucking Twitch and shit. And like, I had to say I'm sorry so often when I didn't mean it. and it started fucking up that phrase to me. It started really messing with it to the point that like, there'd be times when I would say it and I'd be like, I didn't mean that at all. and I would outlaw it said, I didn't mean that.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I didn't mean that at all. I'm not sorry about what I did. Yeah. Because it's insane and like, I've corrected people where like I've corrected people where like I've caught myself saying I'm sorry and I would go back and I would say like
Starting point is 00:58:02 I didn't mean that. I'm sorry. I would apologize. I would apologize for the fake apologies. I'm sorry. Because I meant, I meant being sorry about the fake sorry more than I was actually sorry. Look, we should do an exercise right here.
Starting point is 00:58:15 So look, I know you had to be fake sorry all the time because you're at a retail job, Sweeney. Yeah, what's good. But let's say, how would you really handle a scenario? Like, say if Chris, if you were like an angry customer, you know what you got? You got like the wrong type of milk in your coffee or something or whatever the fuck. And then, and then Sweeney, you're complaining to him. but Sweeney, how would you react as yourself? Okay, let's hear it, Chris.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Let's bring it on. So, wait, so what's the scenario? I'm a customer at, like, Starbucks or something? Yeah, you're an angry customer at Starbucks, and you got the wrong, you got fucking 2% instead of whole milk in your coffee or something. All right, right. You got to lay it on thick, Chris. It's going to be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:59:00 All right. Excuse me. Yeah, how may help you? Excuse me. Hey, listen. So I ordered this coffee for like $900. Your stupid expensive menu. Listen, I want real milk in my coffee.
Starting point is 00:59:16 You gave me 2% goat milk. And I'm pretty sure there's hair all over it. Pubes, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, cool. And I would really prefer to see the manager about this. Well, I'm currently the acting manager on the floor. I'm sorry about, you know, my fucking up your drink or whatever. But we'll get you a new one real quick.
Starting point is 00:59:32 If you want to just go wait the next counter, we'll get a fixed for you. You're going by the next. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not good enough. I want you strung throughout the streets with your entrails paraded through the city. Okay. I want you nailed to a cross, and I want little goblins tearing at your feet and stabbing you in the side like Jesus was when he was on the cross. Remember that scene, the famous scene from the crucifix when he's on the cross?
Starting point is 00:59:54 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to make your drink, and I'm going to stir it with my penis. Flaccid, not even a wreck, flaccid penis, and I'm going to spay it handed to you afterwards. So you can wait at the next counter. You're not going to get a non-dig-touch drink. So, I'm my bad about that. You can do whatever you want. All right, fine. Have we going.
Starting point is 01:00:10 All, thanks. What if that's the whole goal? She just wanted me to stir the coffee with my penis. Dude, we've been misinterpreting fucking angry customers this entire time. They want this shit. Dude, it's, I would love it. Maybe that's actually, it's like, I'll pee in this bitch's drink, and then she'll drink it. It's like, pee.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yes, yes. Holy shit, we might have discovered something really, really, really, important about some of the psychos we see on YouTube all the time. We might have actually broke like that person might have actually broke down a wall in psychology. Because if you think about it, most
Starting point is 01:00:50 horrible shit that exists has something to do with some sort of psychosexual response, right? Like I feel like murderers get like a... I feel like serial killers probably get like some kind of sexual thrill out of just sort of taking a human life. They kind of like, oh man, this feels amazing, right? I would imagine that's I don't even, I can't even imagine them being real sometimes, so I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah, I just feel like anything that compels people to act like complete Neanderthals is probably, it's probably linked to some fetishistic shit. It would make total sense to me. Or even just like, just a pretty, a more common one is just like being talked down to. You know, like people will just talk, speak up and be assholes. That's like a brat thing, right? It's like in like BDSM, it's like if you're a brat, you just kind of like, oh, no, I won't. You know and then the fucking other person's supposed to just punish you or whatever. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of fucking like Karen's at movie theaters complaining about like, oh man, I wanted to see fucking surfs up. Oh man, all of this theaters right now is in glorious bastards. I wanted to see surfs up. Fuck, I'm so angry right now. Good Lord. You might have completely broken new ground here. That's real, that's real shit, man. I expect my payment in gold.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I don't want fucking paper money I want fucking gold You know we should go back to the gold standard I don't talk about you like that Fuck fuck paper money We need to go back to the gold standard Right listen
Starting point is 01:02:18 No no no I'm fucking I'm angry That's it I'm talking about it now The Federal Reserve Prints out money and attaches debt to it And we are forever in debt Exactly And we need a revolution And we need to get the fucking fluoride
Starting point is 01:02:33 Out of the water god damn it Lyle Would love this kind of Because Lyle is always screaming. Lyle is always screaming about gold. You should buy gold. Gold is worth something for real. I mean, precious metals is worth kind of a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Like, gold on the ounce is a lot of fucking money. Yo, gold is with a shit ton now, man. Trust me, we should go back to the gold standard, man. I know that printing money helped get us out of the recession and blah, blah, fucking Bob. But we need to go back to the gold standard. Suck my dick. I would rather move forward into a mass effect sci-fi system.
Starting point is 01:03:06 and where we just kind of have credits. And it's just all... Based on what? It's all just hype... Huh? It's based on like our phones or some shit. We just have credit. We already have that actually pretty much.
Starting point is 01:03:15 No, based what do you mean based on what? What do you mean? Like instead of using like paper currency, we just go to credit, right? We just have credits. But we just have credits. Any amount of money that you've ever seen in a sci-fi universe. We already have that, though. Sort of.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Not really, but sort of. Well, we haven't gone all the way with it. Yeah, we should go all the way with it. I say we go back. I say we go back and use Abraham Lincoln greenbacks. I say, what is that, Derek? It is the money that Lincoln was trying to make before he got his head blown off. Before he got thwacked?
Starting point is 01:03:52 He was trying to make, I have to look. What are you saying? Okay, so, yeah, Lincoln was trying to, for the same reasons, kind of like taking the money back and giving it to the treasury and not having it like running through a central bank. He was trying to do that and then miraculously, John Harvey Oswald Booth or whatever the fuck, blasted him with the fucking machine gun at a play. Tommy gun.
Starting point is 01:04:19 A Tommy gun. Yo, honestly, yo, for real, I want you to imagine for just a brief moment, the fear that would be struck into the hearts of people back then by the fucking sound of a Tommy gun going off. Like that is probably that dragon level, of just what is happening what is that.
Starting point is 01:04:37 What is that? What is that? That's next level. They would have to They would take it and reconstructed. They'd be like, yo, this,
Starting point is 01:04:41 we need mass of this. We need a lot of that. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. I didn't know he tried to make his own fucking money. That's insane. Yeah, he had a lot of big brain ideas, man.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He was like, apparently like really like to the south. He was like, either you guys are going to get on the fucking bandwagging or fixing this country or we are going to fuck you.
Starting point is 01:05:03 We are going to take everything you guys have. And you know why? You know why he was so smart? Why? Because he was so tall and his brain had like a better connection. He got a really good amount of air. He was so high up.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So he got like really, really crisp air. He was able to think so much. Yeah, I'm getting all the fucking garbage air. All the fucking extra fucking heavy air that's falling down. He's getting all the fucking... Have you seen pictures of Lincoln, man? Like that guy, that guy's a fucking... He's a hairless Yeti, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Like, he's... Who? Have you seen pictures of him? He was tall. You see, you see the pictures of him, but he's tall. I mean, he's tall, like, for back then, right? Because he was probably, like, 6, 3 or 6.4. But if you just look, look at his face.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Like, if you just put hair on his face, he's a fucking Yeti. He looks reddish. I'm pretty sure... I'm pretty sure Abraham Lincoln had Marfan syndrome. What's that? That's like, it's just, it makes you just, like, fucking tall and alien-like. It makes you, like, it makes you a gray. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with,
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Starting point is 01:07:16 That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Starting point is 01:07:42 Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law Firm, thanks for coming by the show.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Thanks for having me. Visit for the people.com for an office near you. Oh, no shit I think so No, you're probably right I feel like Lyle told me This is like a joke And I just accepted it as fact
Starting point is 01:08:08 Without even questioning it You're probably right Because when I look at pictures Like there's There's actually a picture on the internet Of like a photo was taking So who knows how long You was standing around
Starting point is 01:08:20 When photos were just being invented You had to like stand for like Fucking 30 minutes For it to actually like work or something But like it's haunting It just looks There's something about it that it's worse than any of that slither,
Starting point is 01:08:33 siren head bullshit. Like, it's so unsettling, man. It's so unsettling. Like, yeah, I don't know how people trusted him.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Like, he just seemed so, like, like he was, I don't know how people trusted him. I just, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:08:48 The slave, Dirk. Did you just say? That is hilarious to me. It's just, it's just his tall, his heightness. His heightness was just,
Starting point is 01:08:57 like, scary. Like, I think, um, I think that's fair. I think anybody who's like, anybody who's out of the average realm
Starting point is 01:09:04 of what people expect to see in a human being, like they're generally kind of either, it goes both ways. They're either really seedy and untrustworthy or either the most inspiring people you've ever seen. For me, true. Where it's like, where it's like, you could have somebody like Napoleon
Starting point is 01:09:19 who's like really short and he just like guides this crusade across Europe. Dude, he fucked everyone up. Somehow manages. He fucked everyone up, man. That shit is impressed. Yeah, I agree. I agree, totally.
Starting point is 01:09:32 He also, I feel like he also wasn't short. No, he definitely was short. He actually wasn't short for the time. Well, there were people were, he was still short. But he was, he just like, say, if you saw him now, he's probably not much shorter than us. You know what I mean? Then you guys.
Starting point is 01:09:49 You guys are fucking pee-wee people, that's why. I mean, he's 5'6. He's 5.6? He's 5.6. Yeah. He's 5.6, yeah. Fucking bullshit, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Let's look that up. You just looked that up and it said he's 5-6. Yeah, well, I mean, unless, I mean, listen, there's a pretty, there's, I'm not going to say that Google can't lie to me. But that's, that's what I'm seeing and I'm choosing to believe that that's probably true. That's fucking crazy because, yeah, I'm literally 5-6, so never mind. Yeah, either his skeleton was 5-6, which means he's probably like 5-7. Dude, what the fuck, man. That's not even, I guess, I guess, as far as leaders go, that's short, I think that's maybe,
Starting point is 01:10:30 Maybe that's what that is. Maybe, yeah. Like, he's probably the shortest, like, war monger. Yo, what if the hans were tiny, bro? Could you imagine? Yeah, what's his height? They probably were, so which one? Like, Attila?
Starting point is 01:10:47 Attila? Yeah, look at Atila and let's see how high, how tall Attila is. I can't find his height. Oh, yeah. It would be... They assumed, I don't know. It's too old. It's too old.
Starting point is 01:10:59 They wouldn't know this shit. Yo, he was getting shit done, bro. He was, uh... Well, let's look at Genghis Khan. Let's look at Genghis Khan. What the fuck? Attila of the Hun? No way.
Starting point is 01:11:11 No, fuck off. This is some bullshit. What? This says, I don't know what this, where this information came from, but this says, Attila the Hun was below 4 foot 11. Are you hearing me? Hello? I'm here.
Starting point is 01:11:33 What happened? Why did everybody go silent? I've heard you the entire time. Oh, I went silent? What the fuck? I mean, I heard you the entire time saying Attila the hunt is under 411? Holy shit, really? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Well, that's what this says. I don't know how reputable forums. com is. He's shorter my girlfriend, dude. I wouldn't beat his eyes. He's probably a warrior. He's probably a trained fighter. Like, I'd probably throw a punch in him.
Starting point is 01:12:01 He'd probably stab me in my knuckles. That's some gimly shit, dude. That's like some Lord of the Rings. like combat dwarf stuff. Are you guys aware of Big Ed from 90 Day Fiancee? Have you seen that guy? Oh, the guy with the manis neck dude? Yeah. Like, imagine, because I think that guy's 411.
Starting point is 01:12:18 So. He looks like the fucking, what's the name of it? Humpty Dumpty, but a person, dog. It's so fucking terrible. He looks he looks like an egg that was given arms and legs and sentience and money. I don't know what to make of that guy because like I keep I keep hearing that he's actually kind of a terrible person.
Starting point is 01:12:39 He's a bit of a piece of shit. I got to admit my guilty pleasure is watching this one reality show. I can't say. 90-day fiancé? Yeah, these people are... I got to give props to these producers, man. They find the worst people on Earth. Like, say, if Team Star was wanted to date somebody overseas,
Starting point is 01:12:57 they would fucking come their panting. Like, this guy's perfect. This is amazing. This will get us numbers. We got them. We need numbers. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Because they find these people, you can't believe them.
Starting point is 01:13:12 How do they do this? They have to have trained professionals that are like psychologists or whatever of reading profiles of these people and interviewing them because they're so fucking stupid and they're so crazy. And then they found that little short mutant egg. And it's just like, oh my God. He's the hit, man. It's so weird.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Like, first of all, I can't, I can barely date someone that lives near me. Let alone date someone from a different country that I've only, I've never met. That shit's so fucking wild to me. Well, yeah. I don't know if I could handle. I don't know if I could handle. The thing is, it's like tedium. Like, just the, the existence of any tedium really frustrates me.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Like, tedious shit bothers me more than big shit. If I went out to, like, I don't know, get my mail or something, or if I went out to, like, drop something off at the post office, and I came back and my apartment was gone and all my belongings and all my, all my, all my, all my, I'm. my papers were gone. I feel like I would just be like, oh man, this is, this is, this sure is a thing that's happening, isn't it? And then I would immediately start living this new, exciting life. But like, if I found out that like, oh, hey, Chris, you got to go to a wedding in like six hours, that would destroy me. I would be so distraught. I would be so sad. I'd be like in the, I'd be drinking in like the bathroom, be like, why is this, why is this happening to me? So the thought of like explaining every day the little cultural things that.
Starting point is 01:14:35 like we all just kind of intrinsically know like, oh, no, that's, that's not necessarily what shit means. It's like sometimes it's like, oh, this is the shit that kind of means like it's cool. And like, just thought of explaining all that would drive me into a fucking furnace. I couldn't do it. Well, I mean, I totally understand. And I, I've definitely, it's pretty, it's not great because I've definitely, I've given that shit like a shot, right? I've done that. And it's, in fairness, in fairness to you, like, people that you date are typically, like, still, like, this is, this is nothing like, I've dated, I've dated girls from, like, you know, Slovenia and, like, Europe and stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:18 But it's like, you dated foreigners, but they were here. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms. Let's talk eggs. Vital Farms pasture raised eggs, to be exact. My favorites, the only kind I've got in my fridge. No joke. And here's why. These aren't your average eggs. The hens live on open pastures with fresh air and sunshine all year long. They forage on local grasses and stretch their wings. They're living their best life. That care really shows in the taste. I love mine scrambled with a little butter or whipped up into a fancy frittata.
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Starting point is 01:16:08 Eggs you could feel good about. So next time you're in the store, look for the black carton in the egg aisle, and visit vitalfarms.com to learn more. Vital farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I think I saw Billboard of years recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder, and our army grows.
Starting point is 01:16:53 So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law Firm, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Visit 4thepieple.com for an office near you. But they, yeah, it wasn't like in 90-day fiancé where like they barely kind of understand, you know, like guiding like a new human being through America's is like something that I would never. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:31 No way. No way. It's like being in awe about all the shit I already have. Like get used to it. This is America. We're the fucking best. All right. Let's get a move on.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Jesus Christ. It's so fucking hostile. But like, I don't know. I can't. I've never dated, I've never dated a foreigner. I've dated people who are obviously families home from different countries. I never did a girl that was foreign. I've, like, interacted with those kind of girls, but I've never dated one of them.
Starting point is 01:17:58 And I've always been, like, very leery to that because I can't deal with foreign cultures really. well because of the fact that you're racist yeah I'm not racist that has nothing to do with race it's a culture thing at that moment yeah yeah yeah I can't even date other fucking Caribbean because I'm so American yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're the fucking you're a gremlin
Starting point is 01:18:18 you're a gremlin yeah the culture shock shit dude it's fucking weird dude yeah I wouldn't be able to I probably wouldn't be able to handle that myself uh the like say that's why there's this
Starting point is 01:18:33 been like little subtle differences of like the the women that I dated that were like not from here it wasn't a big deal it was like okay yeah whatever you got you already speak fluent english probably better than me uh fucking everything's chill there's no weird like oh i can't believe like like say i can't imagine going to a fucking hut or something and then or not like say one of this this old as broad on that show is in uh i think Nigeria and say they shower with a bucket, like, go buckets filled with water. And then it's like cold water, obviously.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And then they, I was like, nope, I can't, nope, like, this is America. Like, I'm, we, I need showers at all times. I'm sorry. Like, I can't fuck with that shit. Yeah. We're very ignorant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:20 We're very privileged, really. I try to, I try to praise myself on how socially conscious I am, but I know I'm just a fucking, I know I'm a nigger. I know. I know what I am. I know what I am. I've been in my whole life.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to pretend. Like, I would, I don't like to think that I'm posh necessarily, where, like, oh, I need, like, every convenience that exists, but, like, certainly, like, showering with a bucket is one of those things where it's like, ah, you know, I would definitely prefer not to be doing this.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah, like, yeah, you know. For a month, I had to wash my clothes by hand, because my wash machine broke. And my grandma was, like, I just don't, I don't feel like, she had, like, a whole entire, like, it's, you've seen one, one of the fucking foldable, like, drying racks. You've definitely seen one. You're Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Dude, I'm not even kidding. Like, when you said I did my laundry by hand, like, I felt the hairs on my neck stand-up. Yeah. Like, that was like a polter guy touched me on my shoulder. You've definitely seen one. You've probably seen one too, Derek. It's like a fucking laundry rack. And my grandmother showed me, she had this, like, fucking washing board thing.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Oh, my God. Brown soap. And I was like, what the fuck is happening? And she was like, this is how you do it? And I was like, how the fuck did you survive like this? What are you people? You fuck, you're savages. What are you?
Starting point is 01:20:33 You fucking savages. I just washing clothes by hand. You fucking savage. You guys are animals. You're animals. You had to get your own water. You, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:20:45 Hold on, what do you think is something that we do today that we consider like pretty, pretty advanced that's, or relatively advanced that like in, that our kids would call us savages for. Masturbation. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:21:00 What? I'm sure. That's never going to stop. No. I feel like it's not going to be the same at all. I feel like the way we do is going to be really... You guys don't go and fuck cyborgs built to design your pleasure? You guys don't use your hands?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Oh my, you fucking parbarians. You fucking touch things with your hands. You know that resin doesn't go away? You guys are fucking animals. Yeah, that's actually a good point, actually. I mean, that actually might have it. Dude, but for real, it's already starting to happen.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Bidays are getting installed in everybody's homes now. People are starting to ditch toilet paper. It starts slowly starting to happen already But days are old things, dude Of course they're old things, but we're barely catching up Like I've used them before and it's terrifying Well it's terrible like I Where was I?
Starting point is 01:21:47 I was at I think it was at a friend's house He had one installed and shit It had like It was awful because it wasn't like The way that all these fancy people were describing That the sea it warms the sea That the water's warm
Starting point is 01:22:00 This was just some ice cold shit just shooting you in the ass and I'm like this is the fucking worst like why why do you want to use this like just it's like Guantanamo I used one and I was terrified I was just like what the hell is happening I literally jumped off the toilet because I was like what's going on and then I had to get used to it and then like I was like all right cool this isn't the worst thing but I don't like it I'm with it man I'm actually I'm welcoming that that that switch when everybody when it's like completely normal like I've been seen this sponsor. I forgot what they're called, but it's like 80 bucks now, whatever the
Starting point is 01:22:37 fuck it's called. But I've been seeing a lot of podcasts talk about it. And it's like 80 bucks to install. And then it's simple. And I'm like, I'm with it. And I'm with it because it'll make ass eating much more accessible and much more like, say, because that's a process, man. If you're, if you're going to do that, you got to make sure, you got to make sure she's, she's just had to shower. You know what I mean? You got to make sure if you're going to get down and dirty like that. I've never done that because that's just like, that's just beyond the realm of extreme that I'll go to. It's just beyond me.
Starting point is 01:23:09 You guys are, you guys are fucking, listen, listen, that is quite literally beyond the rim. No, that's within the rim. That's with me in the rim.
Starting point is 01:23:17 That's dwelling in the rim. Yeah, that's not, see, I don't, that's not what's happening, though. I think that,
Starting point is 01:23:22 I think you guys are, I think you guys are being a little mature right now. Like, no, no one's fucking sticking their tongue, like literally inside. Beyond the fucking room. I understand that. I understand that.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Do you? Just a little. That's like just not my thing, you know? No, I understand. I understand it's not your thing. But to me, to me, look, this is, this is my thing. Like, say, I'm sure you've had a girl fucking, you know. Put a thumb up there.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Maybe. No, no, not. Not even that. I wasn't even going there. Maybe a thumb, maybe a fucking, maybe a size 14 Nike fucking Air Force One. Maybe I dabbled, okay? But I'm just not doing that. Maybe some Tims.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Maybe a pair of Timbs. But, you know, I'm not going there, okay? That's not me. You ain't going to eat that ass, but you definitely have had some Tims in that ass. Okay. So what. So what? I'm strange.
Starting point is 01:24:22 I'm different from everybody. Bitch, I wasn't even talking about that. I was just going to say, I was just going to say real quick that, that, obviously our nuts get extremely sweaty and dirty like fucking immediately and you like girls have definitely gone down and you and fucking have gobbled those shit what I'm saying is though
Starting point is 01:24:42 but what you do you clean yourself up before you do that you just clean yourself it's the same principle clean your fucking body if you respect the person that's doing it obviously you clean yourself that's true because there's actually like fucking there's stories of Motley crew having what do you call it a a competition of how long they could go without showering and just banging chicks on the road.
Starting point is 01:25:05 And that is, I mean, I expire, dude, like, fucking after, like, 12 hours. I'm, like, done. Like, after, like, 12 hours passed by, I'm like, yeah, you know, I could probably use a shower pretty soon. So I can't imagine. I can't. I used to take showers. I used to take two showers a day. When I was an athlete, I used to do it.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Like, whenever I go to the gym, like, I shower when I wake up usually. And then, like, when I go to the gym. him, I have to shower again. Or if I'm outside and it's how to have to shower again. That's it. Yeah. That's a reality of L.A. Like, I definitely like shower more here than I did in New York because in New York,
Starting point is 01:25:41 in New York, you could, I feel like you could get away with it because it's so cold. And you're just not sweating, really, for like half the year. So, like, you could go like. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain. Brought you in part by Vital Farms. Let's talk eggs. Vital Farms pasture raised eggs, to be exact. favorites, the only kind I've got in my fridge. No joke. And here's why. These aren't your average
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Starting point is 01:26:42 look for the black carton in the egg aisle and visit VitalFarms.com to learn more. Vital Farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan? Morgan. What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, from thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. A day or two without showering in New York and you're probably all right. That makes sense. But like, here is like impossible. You have to shower like three times a day here in Los Angeles. Yeah. Summer New York, it's gross.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I just say, Well, yeah, but, like, summer in New York, but summer in New York is also, like, you know, it's hot, but it's not unavoidably hot. I guess. If you have, like, Central Air, which I had, so, yeah. Yeah, so you're fine.
Starting point is 01:28:19 So, yeah, I feel you. I'm in my apartment right now, and, like, the sun is, my window's too far away from you to fucking close, but I'm baking in the, sun right now. My back is peeling as we're speaking. Yeah, my room is tiny right now and it's just a, it's just a hot box. It's the fucking, it's the, I'm, I'm hot as shit right now. And every time we're
Starting point is 01:28:41 done, every time we're finished doing the podcast, I have the shower, which is fucked up. Yeah, same. I'm sitting down. Like, I'm not doing anything. Yeah, it's ridiculous. But anyway, so, uh, one of the topics that you suggested in, in our little Discord thing, I haven't, I hadn't heard of this. So I would love to get some insight on this. Alex Jones is saying that Joe is going to war. Joe Rogan is going to war with YouTube. Yes, this is great, man. So I knew it was bullshit.
Starting point is 01:29:08 So we all know that Joe Rogan signed, and it's reportedly he signed a multi-100 million dollar deal, a multi-year, yeah, $100 million deal with Spotify. And so Joe at the end of 2020 is going to be exclusively on Spotify. and I just learned that Spotify has video on it already. I didn't even know that because I saw some people that are like, oh, what the hell? What about the video?
Starting point is 01:29:33 And he announced live that nothing's going to change. Even the video's going to transfer. And I saw somebody in the comment saying, there's already video. I just watched a video today. And I was like, well, fuck me. I had no idea. So that's actually kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And fuck, I wouldn't mind getting an exclusive fucking deal with Spotify because YouTube pisses me off too. And so YouTube is a piece of shit. And Joe recognized that. and he wanted to take this opportunity to jump ship and maximize his profits. And the thing is, he called Alex Jones, which is true. Because Alex went on his, this is how I saw it. I saw Paul Joseph Watson tweet about it.
Starting point is 01:30:10 And I was like, bullshit that Alex is like, oh, Alex says Joe's going to war. And I was like, what? So I found a clip on YouTube and I downloaded it real quick before it got scrubbed. And he's just started saying all this waltzy. Yeah, Joe's just fired up. It's like, yeah, man, I'm going to war. Like, I don't give a fuck and all this stuff. And I was like, that doesn't make sense because Joe is keeping his clip channel up.
Starting point is 01:30:33 He's going to still upload clips to YouTube because that's a part of the deal. Like, say, he's exclusive to Spotify except for he is allowed to upload clips on YouTube. And so why the fuck would he go to war with YouTube? Like, they'll just, you know what, like tank his shit. It doesn't make financial sense. And secondly, why the fuck would you? Joe Rogan tell Alex Jones to be like, yeah, tell your audience this man, but I'm not going to mention this on my podcast at all.
Starting point is 01:31:02 And he hasn't said it once. And then Joe did a podcast with David Pacman. And he just mentioned briefly passing by in their entire like three hour podcast. Like, oh yeah, Alex said I was going to go to war with YouTube. I never said that. And then that was just laughing my ass off. It was like Alex was ranting for a good like eight minutes or something. I love Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It's so. man, it's so much passion. And, like, he really believe, I feel like he really believes the shit he's saying. And it's just like, man, bro, you are. He has to because I was slightly, I was almost convinced when I even heard Alex talking about it. Because he was so passionate about it. And he was really making up a conversation that supposedly happened between them. You know, like, he seemed, it seemed genuine.
Starting point is 01:31:48 But I'm like, at the same time, like, that's the stupidest fucking thing ever. Joe wouldn't do it. Joe with his platform, as large as this platform is, he's going to be like, I'm going to call you Alex Jones and you tell your fucking shadow band audience about this. That's how we're going to get the word out. Like, what the fuck? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:32:06 It is really weird. That is cool, though, that he's moving to Spotify. I mean, that's not surprising. YouTube sucks. It's not nearly as fun as it used to be. It's not nearly as open as it used to be. it's all just this this really
Starting point is 01:32:23 vapid shit like you do you remember back in the day like back in the day I feel like really genuinely hardworking people like did really well like I remember like people like Julian Smith who would make those like
Starting point is 01:32:37 basically those short films was exploding oh yeah fucking mystery guitar man back in the day do you remember him? Sure yeah that's a throwback
Starting point is 01:32:45 mystery guitar man's oldest shit but he would make these like he would record every single note on a guitar and just sort of make songs and symphonies out of those like clips with like editing and shit uh fucking and there were so many like cool fucking people just making awesome shit and then the 10 minutes the 10 minute thing happened oh yeah um as a response to the reply girl stuff this is old school youtube by the way like this is like back well back okay so
Starting point is 01:33:13 for those of you who might not be super youtube savvy back in the day YouTube paid based on the views it got. So if you had like something that hit like a million views, no matter how long it was, it would make a lot of money. And basically the site was kind of plagued with this thing called Reply Girls. And it was just like girls in low-cut shirts
Starting point is 01:33:37 naming their videos responses to very, very popular videos with the same titles. So the video, like let's say, like a psychic pebbles animation plays and it's like a minute and a half because animation takes a long time to do and asking for like a 10 minute animation is insane. That video would like get a lot of views. It would get a lot of money and it would do really well for Zach and like any animator who was doing it.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And then the next video that was in the recommended has the same title but it's a girl on a low cut shirt and it would have people, it would draw people to click on it. And they would just say like, ha ha this was funny. I love this. And then it would be over. The video was like 10 seconds. like rarely over a minute, rarely over 40 seconds. But because it had so many clicks based on like the clickbait thumbnail and the same title, they would get just as much money. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms.
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Starting point is 01:34:51 really shows in the taste. I love mine scrambled with a little butter or whipped up into a fancy frittata. And here's something most people don't know. You can trace your eggs back to the farm they came from. Seriously. Side of the carton, you'll find the farm name. Type it in at vitalfarms.com slash farm, and you'll get a 360-degree peak at the pasture. Plus, Vital Farms is a certified B Corporation, which means they're committed to improving the lives of people, animals, and the planet through food. Eggs you could feel good about. So next time you're in the store, look for the black carton in the egg aisle and visit vital farms.com to learn more. Vital Farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard. years recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone.
Starting point is 01:36:14 We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, from, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit for thepeople.com for an office near you.
Starting point is 01:36:27 I got you. And because of those people... Huh? That was the beginning of that whole clickbait shit, actually. Well, kind of... I mean, clickbait technically has always existed. That's just, that's like newspapers have always clickbaited technically if you want to get real technical about it.
Starting point is 01:36:42 But that was the start of it on YouTube. and like that eventually made YouTube be like, okay, well, listen, to combat this, we're going to base our ad revenue off of watch time. So basically, you have to have a certain amount of minutes watched on a video before you can make a decent amount of money off it, which obviously those reply girl videos were destroyed by that because no one's going to watch 40 seconds, all 40 seconds of a reply girl video. They're going to click on it. They're going to be like, oh, this is bullshit, then they're going to click off.
Starting point is 01:37:10 So it did have the effect of getting... rid of the reply girls but at the same time it also meant things like psychic pebbles and like things like animation and short films and stuff that took a long time to make it meant that that was no longer viable because what was viable now is long form content that's over 10 minutes that you can make easily and very quickly which is the reason let's play is exploded back in the day yeah they're still pretty big honestly they're not as small as that would be well that's that's kind of the history of it and that's kind of still the
Starting point is 01:37:44 model that we have now, it's gone through some, some slight changes, but that's still generally the case where, like, if a video is going to make money, it's, it has to be over 10 minutes, and it has to have pretty good audience retention in order to be viable. So that's just a brief history of all that. Yeah. I forgot even, I forgot even how, like, what, like, what we were talking about that got us into this same. Yeah, because I was, I was, I was actually, it was really interesting to kind of hear that recap, because I haven't thought about in a while. and it's actually it's gotten even worse too
Starting point is 01:38:18 because now the average especially because of what what like say people like story time and then because they're able to put out shit every day and it can be like almost like an episode because people aren't watching TV anymore
Starting point is 01:38:33 so they're replacing a lot of YouTube with television so they expect a video to be an hour long 30 minutes 20 minutes whatever and frequently and so that's just much worse for people like animators and whatnot and yeah yeah and this is why by the way people this is why people go to podcasts because it's just it's a it's a reliably easy to make long form bit of content that is easily sustainable it's it's it drives its own audience it's it kind of uh it's it's it's the best
Starting point is 01:39:03 format and this is why so many people jumped to that shit yeah it's just the most business savvy way because like there's just no way that uh your average like ad revenue is garbage right now I'm pretty sure for most people. It's the worst. But especially for anybody who's, you know, even slightly controversial. Yeah. It's completely ill. So it's just getting worse.
Starting point is 01:39:22 So, yeah, it makes sense that Joe Rogan would just fucking fuck off. Yeah. Oh, totally. Because I know he was, for sure, he was losing money when he shouldn't be losing money. There's the YouTube's copyright system, their DMCA system, is the most egregious out of all the major platforms from what I've seen at least. Yeah. And they don't. They try to stay.
Starting point is 01:39:43 So that's why you can get fuck so easily to the point where one of the best things about watching Joe Ogan's podcast like watching the video was to see the the clips and stuff that they were reacting to now the the producer Jamie hardly shows anything because you show a few seconds of something somebody Companies were generated to just manually claim stuff and then and then and then and then and then siphon your money companies were just profiting off of that now YouTube's trying to fix it a little bit, but they're not, not really. It's actually kind of started to backfire because now, like, say, what's happening a lot, which I've noticed in a lot of my videos, is instead of them just having the money siphon, siphon, they're being blocked worldwide. And that's infinitely worse to me, because I can still grow if I have fucking views. You know, I can still, oh, a lot of people saw my video.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Now it's just being blocked worldwide where I'm like, what the fuck? Videos that I made years ago. Like, I did a post Malone cover on my second channel. like three years ago, and then just this year, oh, it's blocked worldwide. I'm like, are you fucking, like, what the fuck, man? Dude, it's crazy. I still get emails every day about videos that are private from like 2009 that get copyright struck. And it's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:41:01 What are you doing? Like, why is this only being caught now? 10 years, 11 years after I uploaded it? It's insane. But it's, I don't know, man. It's just getting insane. And they just hit John Tron too. Like John Tron had like a whole thing where like his his most recent Kid Nation video, which by the way is very, very funny.
Starting point is 01:41:21 You had like I think maybe a total of five or seven seconds of some song that he bought the license to, by the way. And it still got copyright stuck. Like that entire video, all the money that he made from that video now isn't his anymore. And it belongs to the people who manually claimed his video for the five seconds of audio. that they owned, even though he bought the license for it. It's a fucking disaster. It's just hard to make content now, because you're just constantly thinking about, like, okay,
Starting point is 01:41:52 I could choose to spend a long time writing this big video and editing this big video and then have all my hard work amount to literally nothing because it can get stolen for having a bit of copyrighted material. And even if it doesn't have a bit of copyrighted material, maybe there's, like, something in the metadata that fucks it up, Maybe it doesn't go out to subscribers and it doesn't hit the views that it really should. Maybe it gets demonetized for whatever the fuck reason YouTube decides it should be demonetized for because it's never consistent ever.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Yeah. What are you going to do? Are you going to stay on that platform? Like, are you going to, like, it's very easy to see why people are not happy with the platform right now. Dude, speaking of, this is crazy, like how intuition or something works out because, uh, you know, Do you remember Dieter that giant? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so he just tagged me on Facebook because I try to avoid this topic because it really just bumps me out.
Starting point is 01:42:56 It's really demoralizing about YouTube where there has been a problem with dozens, maybe hundreds, who knows, maybe thousands of channels, where each time you upload, you lose subscribers. And it's not the fault of yours because the videos are being podcast. positively received. They're not being bombed and people are unsubbing. There's an issue. Something's happening with YouTube and I don't know what it is and I see it a lot and I just try
Starting point is 01:43:21 to avoid it because it's just I'm like, I don't want to see that shit anymore. I just don't even want to fucking pay attention to it. Like say last year I was over $420,000 subs and then I went down and then I finally went back up because I started, you know, some videos performed pretty well and now I'm back to $417,000. Like it just keeps happening and I'm not making money and videos that I know that should take off and blow up, they're just like, they cap out at a certain point. Like, they won't, I don't know what it is. People are saying that it's suppression on purpose.
Starting point is 01:43:50 I think it's a fucking bug and they don't know what to do. And I brought up Dieter because he's, he just started having this issue. And it bummed me, I went on fucking Facebook real quick just to check my stupid year in review stuff. And then all of a sudden I see one of his posts. Hey, has anybody else been having this problem? I'm like, fuck me, dude. I'm like, I don't, it's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Can I go anywhere without seeing this bullshit haunt me? it's sad. The biggest issue I think with it is honestly that YouTube feels genuinely less free than television feels. Like the shit that you can do on like a show on Adult Swim
Starting point is 01:44:24 is far more than you can do on YouTube despite the fact that there's corporate intervention on Adult Swim despite the fact that there are business executives to keep happy and sponsors to keep happy. And it's just so backwards because it used to be so,
Starting point is 01:44:39 it used to be the exact opposite. And it's just, I don't know, man, it's weird. The biggest problem, or one of the biggest problems, in my opinion, is the fact that you just don't know how to read the room when you're just being fed incorrect data. Yeah, I agree with it. Like, if you have, if you run a show, like, if you're Justin Royland and you have a show, a new show,
Starting point is 01:45:02 the network is going to tell you everything that you need to know because it's in the network's best interest, that your show does well. They're going to say, here's the episodes that are not doing well. Here are the reasons, here are the potential reasons why that episode isn't doing well. Okay, well, then you can learn to improve based on that accurate feedback. But with YouTube, it's like,
Starting point is 01:45:22 I can put out the best video I've ever made. It could be like objectively. Let's say hypothetically, it's like the best quality, the most coherent, the most tightly edited. Everything about it is superb. But, oh, the video might not go out to subscribers,
Starting point is 01:45:37 the video might not go out to subscribers because there's a glitch with the feed. Okay, well, all right. Also is the do you don't. It gets demonetized for, because you said the word fuck once in it, even though you've said the word fuck in previous episodes and it wasn't demonetized.
Starting point is 01:45:51 So, like, it's, it's just, you don't know how to read the room and you don't know how to improve your content to appease the rules of the site. If they don't tell you what the rules of the site are. I don't know if I'm making a mistake. I don't know if I'm doing things correctly because it seems like I'm punished
Starting point is 01:46:07 and rewarded for doing both things. Yeah. And it's frustrating as a creator because you just don't know, that's just not how feedback is supposed to work. And I get that, I understand that YouTube is huge. There's like billions of people on it. It's basically a country. It employs thousands upon thousands of people. I understand that it can't be easy to, like, work with this website that's probably got, that's probably built on code that is ancient by today's standards.
Starting point is 01:46:36 I understand that there's probably like a ton of work. that needs to go into even making the site function properly. But at the same time, it's like, dude, this is just not, it's not as fun as it used to be. And it's not as creatively satisfying. It's not as fulfilling. It's not as interesting. Even just the conversations that are going around on the platform. It's just all this drama shit because it's just the stuff that makes the most money.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Yeah, or like, this is, like, pre-t. Which is, like, this is the most. Yeah. Like, first, no shade to any. when I know who vlogs, but for me, vlogging is just the most, it's so weird to me. It's so weird people.
Starting point is 01:47:17 It's just like, oh, like mundane shit. Like, look at my kid, take a shit. It's not even that. It's like recording, like, me and one of our roommates are watching something yesterday. And some guy was vlogging his proposal to his wife. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:47:30 Like, isn't that an intimate thing? Like, why are you vlogging that? I, was this the same one where it was like multiple angles, dude? Yeah. Yeah. I saw that, and I thought that was the fucking dumbest shit I've ever seen. It was so dumb.
Starting point is 01:47:46 It's, it's, I feel like the YouTube algorithm is really, like, I feel like the things that are becoming popular and the things that are becoming the most lucrative in YouTube are just so fucking beyond me. Like, gaming is really popular, which I respect, you know, gaming is cool. And having someone comment takes, like, watching a video game, having someone comments on a video game, that's definitely different. Like, that's better. I'd rather hear someone talk to me. I'm playing a video game.
Starting point is 01:48:09 while they're playing a game, you know? Or, like, give me some sort of informative idea. But when you, it comes to people that just record their lives, it's like no one's life is that exciting. Yeah. Unless you're like a fucking Marine who's doing like some fucking wild shit. Like James Bond's life is exciting enough for him to vlog it. But not fucking, not, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:31 But fuck you. I don't care what you do. That's just, but that's just a stylistic, like, content preference. Like, like, I just feel like the, the platform. form in general is just... But they're so lucrative, it's what I'm saying. It's weird. Well, like, even back in 2016, like,
Starting point is 01:48:45 I would make a video, right? And it would get demonetize, right, for some bullshit. And I wouldn't know why. But I would still get accurate reception from the audience, you know? Because, like, the subscriber boxes weren't glitched and broken.
Starting point is 01:48:59 Like, my videos would go out to the people who subscribed. There was no bell because... This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms. Let's talk eggs. Vital Farm's pasture-raised eggs, to be exact. My favorites, the only kind I've got in my fridge. No joke. And here's why. These aren't your average eggs. The hens live on open pastures with fresh air and sunshine all year long. They forage on local grasses and stretch their wings. They're living their best life. That care really shows in the taste. I love mine scrambled with a little butter or whipped up into a fancy frittata. And here's something most people don't know. You can trace your eggs back to the farm they came from. Seriously, side of the carton you'll find the farm name. Type it in at vitalfarms.com slash farm, and you'll get a 360-degree peak at the pasture. Plus, Vital Farms is a certified bee corporation, which means they're committed to
Starting point is 01:49:49 improving the lives of people, animals, and the planet through food. Eggs you could feel good about. So next time you're in the store, look for the black carton in the egg aisle and visit VitalFarms.com to learn more. Vital Farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw billboard of years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year.
Starting point is 01:50:34 And each year we get bigger and batter and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfram, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forethepeople.com for an office near you. The bell was consolidated in the subscribe button like the original purpose of that button was fucking beginning.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Like every other platform. Every other platform. No, I'm just supporting what you're saying. Like, say, I use Apple the podcast and you press the subscribe button and you get a notification from every podcast because that is the purpose of that. That is the very purpose. With, yeah, without fail, dude, without fail, no other site has a subscribe button that is as meaningless as the YouTube subscribed.
Starting point is 01:51:38 It genuinely, it just doesn't work. It is broken. It's bugged. And it's frustrating because, like, like I said, like back then, there were all sorts of issues, right? There were all sorts of issues with content. You get demonetized for saying this, and you could say it again in another video, and it wouldn't get hit, and it would be just confusing. There was still rampant copyright strike abuse on the platform. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:51:56 But I knew that, like, oh, well, you know what? I can make a video, and it'll get copyright struck. It's like, all right, that sucks. But at least, you know what? It's at least getting out to my audience. And because it's getting out to my audience, it's at least getting shared. And because it's getting shared, it means more. people are coming into my content, and it means more people are looking at the content
Starting point is 01:52:11 that is monetized by going through the backlog. But that's not the case anymore because the content's just not going out to... I get messages. Every fucking time I upload, I didn't get a notification for this. Every single fucking time... How demoralizing is it, man? That never used to happen. It's insane that it's even...
Starting point is 01:52:32 It's insane that they think that that's okay. Like, that they haven't even addressed it. That's... Yeah. That right there. That's the thing that I've sent. And here's the thing, this is what, and this is why it's so demoralizing. I've sent multiple emails.
Starting point is 01:52:46 And I explain, I'm an analytics person when it's really important to me. And I've collected all the data that I had on my channel. And I presented my case showing, hey, guys, I've been averaging 100K subs per year, averaging this many views, averaging this amount of my number. money. Everything is normal. Even when people were saying, oh, the, the, the, your guys' this type of content is dying or it's dead. And I'm like, if you look at the numbers, it's not really dead. It's, it, it appears to be. I understand the perception of it. But like, say, even like, say, 2018 or whatever, early 2019, like you're putting out a certain something. And I'm still getting,
Starting point is 01:53:30 like, for me, like, oh, I can still get 100K or 200K on a video. It was still kind of working. And then in March, like just a little bit afterwards, it just broke completely for me and never recovered. I sent a bunch of emails explaining in my case, like, what's going on? Could you guys please look into this? Hey, guys, I can't add my T-spring link, my T-spring to my YouTube.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Like, I see how you can do that. And then their response was, something's happening. Oh, it's going to roll out soon. I kept getting different responses, knowing that they don't have this figured out at all, because at the very least, I thought they were going to give similar,
Starting point is 01:54:05 responses like just say this because we know what's going on and we're fixing it but no they didn't know shit and uh i even shown the last ditch effort i made was hey guys i just made a brand new channel uh this was september i think of 2019 uh and i just linked my tea spring to it's a brand new channel like why can i do that on my main channel can you please look into it there's got to be some type of code or something right but then they just you know pulled down my pants and kept fucking me. And so I'm like, all right, you know, I don't, I don't, it's, it's, it's frustrating. I know for a fact, uh, my new video is doing better than the last, my last 10 uploads. It's doing better like every, in every, like viewer retention is up, uh, ratios are up,
Starting point is 01:54:50 comments are up, engagement is up. And I know for a fact, it's going to hit this random cap that's completely out of my control. And it's like, I just know it. And it's just like, what the is wrong with this shit. Makes no sense. Dude, one thing that I've learned, and I've given, I've given advice to some smaller YouTubers, I told them, if you, if you have a channel that, and you're trying to grow rapidly and you've been kind of stagnating or whatever, create a new channel. Just do a new channel.
Starting point is 01:55:18 I guarantee you, you're going to have better, like, it's going to take a minute because you have to do all those loopholes to be monetized now, like whatever is 4,000 hours and whatever the stipulations are. But like say with one of my other channels that I started, because I have three now, when I first started it, it just boom, this video 100K, this video 100K, it just started. The algorithm is working like normal. And people are seeing the video's engagement is up. It's not completely the CPM, the money that you make per thousand views for the people that don't know that, it is way higher than my main channel. It's fucking sad, dude.
Starting point is 01:55:57 So it's really weird. It's honestly so weird. But that's you too. That's why I don't make YouTube videos. You see? Duh. Everything is, that is not why you don't do it.
Starting point is 01:56:07 It is the worst possible time. Like, you wasted a lot of time. Oh, I did. You can't. Oh, I did.
Starting point is 01:56:12 You can't, you can't blame anybody. I'm going to have to. I have to do this, unfortunately. But. No, you really don't.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Like, it is no point now. I mean, still, maybe you just still do it at least. Put your clips from Twitch on YouTube. I'm just uploading my straight-up streams.
Starting point is 01:56:25 I was going to upload all of my streams to YouTube. There you go. Just beat off on them and see how long you can stay up if you just beat off on your stream and uploaded YouTube. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that much. I am just going to upload. I might do that right now, actually. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Well, no. No, no. Anyway. Let's get into some questions here. We talked for a pretty long time about actual. Yeah, we did. About actual shit. Some real shit.
Starting point is 01:56:50 This is actually a topics-driven podcast this episode. I don't like that. People are going to be fucking confused and freaked out. Yeah, it's like, where's the question? So I initially, I was, I put out a question thread on Patreon thinking that it went live, but I guess Patreon just glitched out. Patreon's another platform that's just like completely bugged. But that's just more to shoddy web design than anything else. So I put the question thread out, but it just, it never went public.
Starting point is 01:57:18 So we didn't collect questions this week. Oh. But we have a lot of questions. We have a couple questions that we'll probably be able to get to in the final moments of this episode. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms. Let's talk eggs. Vital Farms pasture raised eggs, to be exact. My favorites, the only kind I've got in my fridge. No joke. And here's why. These aren't your average eggs. The hens live on open pastures with fresh air and sunshine all year long. They forage on local grasses and stretch their wings. They live in their best life. That care really shows in the taste. I love mine scrambled with a little butter or whipped up into a fancy frittata. And here's something most people don't. know. You can trace your eggs back to the farm they came from. Seriously, side of the carton, you'll find the farm name. Type it in at vitalfarms.com slash farm, and you'll get a 360-degree peak
Starting point is 01:58:07 at the pasture. Plus, Vital Farms is a certified bee corporation, which means they're committed to improving the lives of people, animals, and the planet through food. Eggs you could feel good about. So next time you're in the store, look for the black carton in the egg aisle and visit VitalFarms.com to learn more. Vital Farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Starting point is 01:58:42 That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion. $20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, $20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Starting point is 01:59:09 Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfram,
Starting point is 01:59:22 thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit for the people.com for an office near you. that we didn't answer from previous episodes or some that were just sent in message formats. Okay, cool. So let's jump in it. This guy's name is a direct threat to me.
Starting point is 01:59:38 So I'll read it out because it's basically a comment in and of itself. A pox on your house for resurrecting Caramel Danson, you Hispanic skeleton. Oh, my God. I played no part in resurrecting Caramel Danson. Caramel Danson is a wonderful song from the from the annals of the internet that has always been around and will continue to be here It actually resurfaced
Starting point is 02:00:02 It actually resurfaced with that What is that meme? I think I don't think Little Nazex started it But like it was is that meme where it's like Shows the outside of the house and it's like the strobe lights And you just hear the song muffled Then it cuts to the inside of the house And the person's just like on the ground
Starting point is 02:00:18 Fucking listening to this stupid Swedish anime song I don't know the meme But I know what you're talking about I've heard of it Yeah It's a good song So I didn't do that
Starting point is 02:00:28 So fuck you Anyway he says If you could wipe your memory Of any game franchise In order to experience it fresh Which would it be in why Mine is the original paper Mario Bonus points
Starting point is 02:00:39 If it would hold up to modern standards Mario 64 Really? No I don't want to forget that game Well you get to experience again That's all right dead too That's not a bit I would love to read.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Oh, no, Halo. Halo. No. I would do it so I could... I would never want to forget that. I would... I would... Man, a game that I would...
Starting point is 02:01:07 Probably the first Bioshock would be fucking wild. To experience... Do you experience that twist genuinely, again, would be pretty... Because I think when I... When I played the game originally, I was too young and stupid to comprehend what the twist was. So I kind of had it ruined.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Like, a little bit. So it would be nice to... actually get a proper chance at like getting my brain exploded by that again. What about you? Or, ooh, or freaking chrono trigger. Listen, you got to settle on one, right? I'm sorry, it's so many games. I mean, you got, well, then, which one tickled your fancy the most, man?
Starting point is 02:01:40 I would say, I would say chrono trigger. Yeah. It's a valid one. Yeah. Man, yeah, I do agree that there is a lot of things to choose from, but I still, nothing has really made my jaw drop, like, when I played God of War III for the first time because the graphics and just the cinematography,
Starting point is 02:02:00 the way that the angle, the way that they set everything up was so, there wasn't anything like it. Nothing, the graphics were just, just, I mean, I look at it now and then say what, oh, remastered on PS4, so it looks fantastic. But you know how our eyes worked. And Jesus, man,
Starting point is 02:02:18 I just remember playing the opening scene when you're fighting Poseidon and you're on Gaia. And it's just so my jaw was just like open the whole time like oh my god, this is this going from God of War II to three is fucking ridiculous. Like I'm sure there are other examples of jumps like that that of games have been, oh yeah, we went from this to this like zero to 100. But that's how it felt. And that's something that I would not mind experiencing again where just where I'm in awe. Because usually I'm like, oh, I'm having a lot of fun with a game. But never did I really feel like it wouldn't be a bad idea.
Starting point is 02:02:53 idea to pull my dick out and come. Like, there would be no better feeling. Because imagine being that. It's like, it's like the time when, uh, the shit was going down on me while I was eating a McFlurry. That there's, that's right below experiencing God War III for the first time. That's, that's, that's some real, that's some Seinfeld. That's Seinfeld.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Like, genuinely. That's bliss right there, bro. There's a whole episode of Seinfeld about that, that exactly. Is there? Not a McFlurry necessarily. He was like, no, George was, George was like, what, if I combined food and sex, that'd be like the ultimate fucking thing, wouldn't it? It fucking is.
Starting point is 02:03:27 And then he gets, and then he forms this like psychological link between the two where he just, he can't get off unless he's eating and he can't eat without, without fucking coming. It's a fucking hilarious. I can't believe that was on fucking television. That sounds pretty good. Because they were clever in the way that they wrote it.
Starting point is 02:03:47 You gotta love something else. All right, let's move on here. Liquid, the Dr. Pepper Elemental. wrote in. He says, What's up black metal, Sween, Titan,
Starting point is 02:03:58 and flimsy bespectacled goblin? Ooh, how does that feel? I like, it feels good. I love the word bespectacled. Like, it's, it's a word that's, like, not used, really, ever. But every time I hear it,
Starting point is 02:04:09 it brings, like, a smile to my fucking goblin face. What is, what is the hands-down weirdest game you've ever played any of the three of you, whether it was good or bad, just something that made you feel weird
Starting point is 02:04:22 throughout the entire duration of whatever playtime you have. head with it. Jimmy and the pulsating mass is an RPG with neat mechanics that made me feel super uneasy despite looking like a children's game. What game was weird? I think playing Half-Life was kind of strange to me the first time. It was a little... Really? Why? What? I don't know. I played it when they, I played it like a round of time if, oh no, um, the first Balders Gate game I ever played in like fucking 19, like 1999 or some shit was so weird to me. Because it was like very D&D heavy and I was really small. So I had no clue with the,
Starting point is 02:04:54 fuck was going on like all of these like interactions like important talking points were happening and I was like I don't get what this means I'm a kid I want to hit this I don't like being stopped and I played like at least like three or four hours of it which is a lot in little kid time and I was like I just don't like this enough I'm gonna play crash bandicoot and I just played crash you kind of just reminded me of something that I need to conquer because I was defeated by it uh you guys remember virtual boy? Yeah. No, not exactly.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Oh, no shit. It was just that... Oh, the virtual boy console? Yeah, it was that, yeah, the virtual reality, you just, you put that visor on and then it was just all infrared essentially, or whatever it was. I don't even remember what the fuck it was. Yeah, it was just completely, it was red with, like, uh, it was black. It was black in the negative space.
Starting point is 02:05:46 Yeah. With, like, red lines making everything up. Yeah, yeah. And it was interesting, like, there was Mario Tennis, which I actually had a lot of fun with, uh, But for some reason, and I need to conquer this now that I think about it, I couldn't figure out how Tetris worked because it would be falling from like up. And I didn't. I just, I was confused and I couldn't figure it. I was probably like, you know, seven, eight.
Starting point is 02:06:11 I don't know how fucking old that was. But I couldn't figure it out. And it frustrated me. So I never completed like a long, lengthy. I imagine how a boomer would be like now if you were to just. throw them into like a team death match of any fucking FBS. Like they just wouldn't understand what's happening. Like that's how I felt.
Starting point is 02:06:31 And I was fucking I, my brain still doesn't understand it. So like now I'm gonna buy a virtual boy off of a fucking eBay. I'm genuinely astonished that you've even had personal experience with a virtual boy. Because that's like a console that I, I genuinely didn't know that that console existed until probably the 2010s. I probably saw some, I probably saw some video about it by some. some epic gamer on YouTube
Starting point is 02:06:56 and he was like, check out this virtual boy and I was like, what? I think the angry video game nerd actually made a video about the virtual boy. And that was like probably the first time I'd ever seen it. I don't know anybody. You're the only person I know who's had one. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, it wasn't a good console. It wasn't good at all. I've never, like, I've seen them. Like, I've heard lore of them. I've heard word that they exist. But like, I've never spoken anyone that's blatant. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain, brought to you in part by Vital Farms.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Let's talk eggs. Vital Farms pasture raised eggs, to be exact. My favorites, the only kind I've got in my fridge. No joke. And here's why. These aren't your average eggs. The hens live on open pastures with fresh air and sunshine all year long. They forage on local grasses and stretch their wings. They're living their best life. That care really shows in the taste. I love mine scrambled with a little butter or whipped up into a fancy frittata. And here's something most people don't know. You can trace your eggs back to the farm they came from. Seriously, side of the carton, you'll find the farm name. Type it in at VitalFarms.com slash farm, and you'll get a 360-degree peak at the pasture. Plus, Vital Farms is a certified bee corporation, which means they're committed to
Starting point is 02:08:09 improving the lives of people, animals, and the planet through food. Eggs you could feel good about. So next time you're in the store, look for the black carton in the egg aisle and visit VitalFarms.com to learn more. Vital Farms. Good eggs. No shortcuts. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Starting point is 02:08:39 That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and bad. and our army grows, so the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?
Starting point is 02:09:03 What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open, our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfirm, thanks for coming by the show.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. I've never encountered them in the wild When I was eBay Of course, but like shit Where did you get one of those when you had one? It was I honestly I'm not even
Starting point is 02:09:36 Look at it I don't know if my mom got it Or all I know is that my mom She loved Even though she didn't necessarily Keep up with technology She was always curious She would always like as soon as Game Gear came out
Starting point is 02:09:52 She was like yo he's this game gear And I was like, Mom, this takes six fucking batteries. This is stupid. This is so fucking dumb. Are you kidding me? You know, I still played it. I had this Bruce Lee game on it and had this X-Men game. The graphics were great.
Starting point is 02:10:03 Sega was always good for that. I was like, all right, Sega Saturn, look good, failed, fucking, uh, all of their shit. Dreamcast, it's always had, like, some innovative stuff, and then it always fucking failed. And, uh, we had all of that stuff. We always had, like, the weird shit. I think I even had a Neo-Geo for a fucking second. Uh, so it was always, like, true. trying different things.
Starting point is 02:10:25 And, I don't know, that red shit, man. That seemed, it just, it's kind of off-putting, but ambitious for, for old-school fucking Nintendo, man. Yeah, for sure. For real. Definitely, definitely the hallmarks of, or like the early DNA of VR, even if it was horrendous. The early blood work.
Starting point is 02:10:45 I don't know what the weirdest, I've played a lot of strange games. I don't know what the strangest one is, but I know one that's very strange that I, that I recently kind of jumped into because some friends of mine on YouTube have been playing it, and they've been making a little let's play series about it. It's this thing on Itchio, which is like this platform that just has a lot of, like, unity games that people just throw up on a website and you can just, you could sort of play them in browser or I think you can download some of them. But there's this game called Black Baby.
Starting point is 02:11:18 What do you, what is? And I genuinely don't know. how to describe it because it's so... Basically, you're in this really dark labyrinth and you play as a black baby. Okay. And you're running around with like
Starting point is 02:11:34 an axe and you have torches and it's basically like a collect the key open the game. But the main adversary is like there are these tall... White? Burger... Like, they're these tall burger andy looking guys
Starting point is 02:11:48 who like they're all naked and they stand in this, they stand in every big arena. And then the second you walk into the arena and you go down the steps and you're on the same plane as them, they start walking toward you and they try to kick you in the head and kill you. And it's genuinely so unnerving because it's so silent. It's, it's very, I would just suggest Google Black Baby. Oni plays have been doing a pretty good play through of it.
Starting point is 02:12:19 And it's, uh, definitely in, in, you know, In recent memory, it's the strangest game I've ever played. I'm sure there are some point-and-click games that I used to play when I was a kid, like Darby the Dragon, that were kind of strange. Or, like, My Street, which was like a PS2 game that was like a Sims clone, that was, like, really not good. I never heard of that. Black baby definitely takes the cake.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Black baby. So were we talking about an African-American baby? Or are we talking about a... The literal color black, or the not color? I don't know. It's a combination. I think. I think it's some sort of
Starting point is 02:12:54 because it's so, the thing is, it's so, it's so dark in the game and like, like the, the,
Starting point is 02:12:59 the, the, the, the, the, the, the lighting is golden because it's
Starting point is 02:13:04 torches and, like, fire, so like, I don't know if it's solid black, but the light makes it look
Starting point is 02:13:09 like a African American. I don't know what the, I don't know what is going on. I think it's a dark place and a black baby. That is a, that is a, nigger baby,
Starting point is 02:13:17 dude. I'm just looking at it. That is a, the thing about, The thing about black babies is that I'm pretty sure it's based off of that meme or that vine
Starting point is 02:13:25 where the mom is coming outside and there's his little black naked baby running around trying to avoid getting beat. I'm pretty sure that is what created the roots that eventually into black baby.
Starting point is 02:13:38 This is literally a fucking black baby. It's a black, it's a baby who's skin is black. Are you seeing gameplay of it? Yeah, I'm looking at it up right now. It's such a strange,
Starting point is 02:13:49 I did jump into it. it though and it's it is genuinely like kind of horrifying another weird ass game is Echo the Dolphin. No one else has played a lot of people haven't played that game and I'm one of the... Oh Echo the Dolphin Echo the Dolphin is probably like the most popular
Starting point is 02:14:05 weird game. Or that in like oh what's that wait a minute what's that Sega game with the fucking fish with the human face? What? Oh you can dream cast dreamcast dreamt you're talking about dreamcast right weird yeah
Starting point is 02:14:18 is that what it makes is a game? It was like this AI, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. It would ask you to feed it and like you would, oh my God, I can't remember the man bass or, or, hold on. Seaman? I think it was called C-Man. C-man. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:14:35 Seaman Dreamcast. I was going to put in, uh, uh, I got. Yeah, it's, it's totally it. Weird fish simulator. What is it called? C-Man. Yeah, my C-Man. It's totally it's my C-Man for the Dreamcast.
Starting point is 02:14:48 That's fucking. What a fucking disgusting game. This is probably it, actually. This is definitely stranger than Black Baby to me. I forgot, dude, I am a huge fan of Dreamcast and I completely forgot about this. Because I have, I need to see this. I completely forgot about this. I hope you have the picture that I see.
Starting point is 02:15:05 I was so weird about it. I would go to school and talk about it and people would be like, what are you talking about? What the fuck is that? That's seaman. I got a side of it. It was like it would grow. Yeah, that. It was so fucking gross.
Starting point is 02:15:21 I'm having so many flashbacks right now because I forgot about this for so long. I played it on. Echo is not as weird as this, man. This is weird as a dog. Echo is just fun, man. It was just a fucking cool-ass dolphin. You played it too? Of course, dude.
Starting point is 02:15:35 I had the sequel. You had a sequel? Yeah, on Sega. I told people about that game. Everybody was like, what are you talking about? I'm like, I swear, you play as a dolphin and you try to clean up the ocean. And everybody's like, you're fucking crazy, Kingston. And I'm like, no, I swear.
Starting point is 02:15:49 Bro, I think on It was at least one of the Sega collections Not the one that's been out recently But there was a classic collection That had all the Echo the Dolphins on it Like for sure Like people should fucking know about this shit Echo is definitely something that people
Starting point is 02:16:03 In the gaming ecosystem know about But it's not It's definitely not like a mainstream thing It's not like a call of duty Or like even like something like a Mass Effect or something Where people can be like oh that's that video game Trust me Echo the Dolphin is very very
Starting point is 02:16:17 And it's also like relegated to a lot of Sega devices, so it's even kind of more obscure because of that. Did you guys... But I definitely knew about it. Did you guys ever play the... Seriously. It's a great... Oh yeah, check out of the Dolphin.
Starting point is 02:16:29 But also, you need to check out the Sonic rip-off, awesome possum. I remember this. Or he fights Dr. Machino. Oh, my God. I remember seeing that one time, and I was like, what the fuck is this? I was definitely already a teenager. I had a lot of weird Genesis games. I had like a bea-and-butthead.
Starting point is 02:16:48 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Genesis game and I had like a Renan stimpy one, I'm pretty sure. I might be wrong. I think you're right. I think there was one. Yeah. I can't remember if that's...
Starting point is 02:16:59 I can't remember if I'm... I'm getting to that point where it's like I can't remember if my memories are real or if I've just invented them. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing because that's a real problem I've had a lot lately. Like, I can't remember if I'm remembering things that actually are my memories. Yeah, so if you're a family member listening to this and you're like, oh, I didn't, I never, we never had that game. then fucking just let me know because I'm going insane over here. Dude, you know what I did with that? Just for quick, I had one of those moments where I thought it was maybe Mandela or I was losing my mind
Starting point is 02:17:27 because I used to go to this Boys and Girls Club and they had this beat them up, the side school and beat them up game. And the one thing that I'll never forget about it is this girl, she had long black hair and she wore a pink thong. You can't forget about that. That's a weird choice to be fighting crime in. And I would tell people about the game and they're like, I've never fucking heard of that shit. And then I'd try to go to like obscure video game experts and then they could. didn't even figure it out. I'm like, is it this, is it that?
Starting point is 02:17:50 I'm like, are you fucking serious? Does it not exist? And then I found one forum, and this was years ago. I found a forum from 2005 where the guy was describing the same thing. And I was like, oh, my God, my kindred spirit, this guy knows. And then when I forgot about it, and I brought it up again in 2017. And since then, there's been an explosion of ROMs and emulators and shit and uploaded it all to YouTube. And it's called Zero Team.
Starting point is 02:18:16 And there was people like, yeah, man, I've heard of Zero Team. Like, check out all this shit. And I was like, it did. None of the feet, all of the footage on YouTube was not there. And then it just was there. And it fucking made me so mad that I was just searching a few years too soon. And, yeah. Dude, that's like, that's like I had this very distinct memory of, of, I think I talked about this on the podcast before.
Starting point is 02:18:40 But there was this cartoon that I remember seeing, like, it was one of my, the earliest memories I can remember. It's like, I was just awake. I was awake. And I was about to go to school, and I was, like, eating cereal at, like, 6 a.m. Because that's when you had to wake up for school for some fucking insane reason. And I was watching TV, and there was this cartoon about, like, it looked like the wild thornberries, but it wasn't the wild thornberries. And all I could say was, like, there was this really weird rip-off of the wild thornberries that I used to watch. And everybody thought it was crazy.
Starting point is 02:19:09 And then, like, the more I asked around about it, like, after, I think after I exploded on YouTube, it was... The second I got an audience, it was the first thing that I asked. Like, I was like, okay, listen, now that I've got an army of people watching me, I need to find this fucking thing that I haven't been able to find for years. And they were like, oh, that's Jumanji, the cartoon. Oh, the Jumonti. Oh, yeah. I was like, what?
Starting point is 02:19:30 I remember that. Because I swear, it was just like the same, like, they were in the wilderness, and like the fucking dad looked like a... Fucking Nigel? He looked like the smashing. Yeah, Nigel. Nigel, Thornberry. Nigel, yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:44 And I was like, oh my God, I thought for the longest time that I just hallucinated this weird rip-off cartoon. And it was just jumanj. I'm actually, I've definitely woken up lately. Lately, I've woken up. And I don't know if my dreams and my memories anymore. And I kind of stay in my room a little longer. Like what's happening to me right now. This is Sarah Spain from Good Game with Sarah Spain.
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Starting point is 02:21:33 So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, from thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit fortherpeople.com for an office near you. Like I had it's really, I recently had a very fucked dream where me and my friends went to the Middle East and we had to stop Nick Cannon from acquiring some weird sort of treasure. So me and my friends were
Starting point is 02:22:15 jumping inside of toilets that were aligned with this weird cloth thing. You would go inside the toilets and then slink our way through this hotel that was ran by Nick Cannon. What is wrong with you? That dream, and it's that dream I woke up
Starting point is 02:22:31 from my sleep shaking because I was so confused about the world that was missing in. And Nick Cannon's wife got into the hotel room where we were in because we couldn't get down Nick Cannon's toilets because She had some sort of muscle toilets that were like incapable of squeezing past. So Nick Cannon's wife got in and I saw her and I freaked out and took a picture of her and she passed out.
Starting point is 02:22:54 She had like photo narcolepsy or some shit. And I remember just saying, guys, this is scary. This is how the world works and I woke up shaking and immediately tweeted about it because I was so scared. Well, I need to see this anime. Yeah, please. I don't know. First of all, was her, was her? was Nick Cannon's wife
Starting point is 02:23:14 Was it Mariah Carey? Was it somebody else? It was a black woman Oh so it was just some made up bullshit And I also got to say It was really attractive in my dream Oh this is a really beautiful black woman But like I had to
Starting point is 02:23:25 I had to tranquilize her Because I had to get out of there And my friend like literally Like literally I kid you not My friend dived into a toilet And he like went into the toilet Like they were hiding in toilets You were fuck it
Starting point is 02:23:36 But you surely surely you knew That was fake though Because it's absurd I was so confused that. Because I think it, look, it was faith. See, listen, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Like, I have dreams about talking to
Starting point is 02:23:48 people. Like, I'll just have a dream about, like, oh, I'll get a text message from my cousin in my dream. And then I'll wake up and then it won't be there. And then I'll be confused because the dream and reality are so, like, close as far as to, like, the rules that they abide by that it's really difficult for me to remember, like,
Starting point is 02:24:04 whether or not I talk to this person in real life or not. You're talking about diving into toilets while rescuing treasure from fucking Nick Cannon. I understand it sounds ridiculous and far-fetched. But the thing is that I think my mind was in a more, like, relative state. Like, I'm more like, I understood. Like, this is, it wasn't really far-fetched, like, dream me.
Starting point is 02:24:25 It was like I'm kind of lucidly dreaming somewhat, but I don't know where the line is. And I saw that. And I was like, that's not how things work, but I'm seeing someone do it. So that's how things work. You're going to say what I mean? Yeah, look, I don't have any concept of lucid dreaming. I never do it. So I can sympathize the man.
Starting point is 02:24:43 I had a really dumb-as dream. Do you remember when the world is not enough came out? It was the sequel to Golden Eye. No, no. This is like way back then. So there was Golden Eye, then the World Is Not Enough came out. And so I bought that game thinking that it was going to be as cool as Golden Eye, but it was like completely different.
Starting point is 02:25:04 So I dreamed about it that night because I was kind of pissed off. So it was burned into my brain. And I had a dream and it felt really. as fuck that I was 007 or some fake ass 007 and I went to a volcano island and I got captured
Starting point is 02:25:21 and then I was being tortured with sex and like it just like it felt like if you can lucid dream you would be like oh this is the dumbest thing ever and then you're going to like really lay some pipe right you're going to make as many women as possible but I was
Starting point is 02:25:36 like I didn't want to fuck these girls like in this dream Like I was you know When did that come out? So I was when the world is not enough come out? I was like 2002, 2001? Yeah, I was that age. Whatever fucking in 2000.
Starting point is 02:25:53 So I was probably like just becoming a teenager or something like that. That's so funny. Like shit like that, it seemed totally real. But I don't have the capacity where people tell me that, oh yeah, I recognize when shit's not real and fake in my dreams. And I know what's going on. I'm like, dude, it's all. It's it. I wish I could do that.
Starting point is 02:26:11 It's a godforsaken mess The most frustrating dreams Are the ones where they're like Because I had this I had a dream like this recently And this isn't like some wacky Like oh look how zany this dream is This is genuinely like
Starting point is 02:26:25 I had a dream that like I was just going about my day And the Halo Infinite gameplay Reveal dropped And I was watching it and I was so disappointed And then I just I woke up Feeling just bummed Because I was just like, oh, man, this is like a game.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Like, I'm dreaming about a game. You know what I mean? Like, that happens so rarely now. It used to happen a lot when I was a kid. Because I would be, like, unreasonably excited for new video games. I've definitely, I've lost my wallet and been, like, so fucking angry because I have to get a new fucking license and shit. I'm just like, are you fucking serious?
Starting point is 02:27:02 God, damn it. Just the most, just inconvenience dreams are the worst. Oh, it is. But, uh, Oh, man. So we're at two hours now. So I think now is a pretty good time to cap this conversation off. Yeah. Thank you for those of you who are listening, for those of you who are watching.
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