The Snark Tank - #36: Bella Thorne Killed OnlyFans

Episode Date: September 4, 2020

Do rich celebrities ruin social media platforms? Would you install Elon Musks brain chip? Are American TV bullies accurate portrayals of real bullies? Chris and Sween reminisce about the time they kil...led their roommate and Derrick ponders why shitty journalists have verified checks.  Next episode is an episode with Shoe0nHead and it'll be going up VERY early for Patrons. Stay tuned.  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:03:47 Mr. Bad times, but thank you. As, as that's real talk. I mean, think about, think about if going through this pandemic, if we didn't have the snark tank, how much more angry and and having the urge to kill would we have in our veins? You know, I think this is a good outlet. it is a good for me definitely yeah definitely everything I've done this whole entire quarantine
Starting point is 00:04:08 has kept me sane like I don't want to tell my Twitch followers I really care about them and how like I appreciate what they've done for me but like without them I would have lost my shit yeah I probably would have went to DTLA I probably wouldn't do DTLA and gotten shot dude I probably would have just like
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Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm not saying, I'm just saying like I thought about doing it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty easy to tell. You just look at a piece of Swiss cheese and probably figure out what the future holds in that regard. Yeah. It'll be confusing.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It'd be confused because, you know, the Swiss cheese doesn't get shot, but the black cheese would definitely end up dead real quick. The black cheese? Black cheese. Jesus fucking Christ. Hey, bro. Y'all don't want to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:05:01 but it's real shit that's happening out there. It is really. real shit that's happening. But this is a podcast where we don't talk about real shit. That's very true. We talk about bullshit. We talk about comedy. So what do we got? What do we, what do we got? What's happening? I was only aware, really, of, uh, actually, no, we should, we should start. I feel like we should start with, with the bell of thorn thing. We could, if you want. Yeah. Because that seems, that seems like the most heavy one. And, and also, and also we can just put a hot Bella Thorne in the thumbnail. Yes, we can. I love it. Oh my God, Derek, Derek immediately propped up to that. Hot white woman. Oh, yes, I'm down. Dude, I didn't even know who she was until just a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I mean, I knew of her. I didn't know what she did. I didn't know she was from Disney. Yeah, same. I heard her name before, like on Twitter, like a year or two ago, maybe for some article that she wrote or was about her or something. But, like, beyond that, I had no idea who she was. I remember exactly what happened. I think it was last year It was either last year or two years ago That somebody She was another one of those dumb celebrities That fell for that
Starting point is 00:06:10 That hack for the You know Oh Apple security risk Change your password And it's not from Apple at all But you know So people She got fished
Starting point is 00:06:21 And so somebody tried to extort her for money Like I have your nudes And then she released them And right It became like a huge conundrum And that's when I started seeing what was going on and then she had beef with
Starting point is 00:06:34 Whoopi Goldberg because Whoopi was like you dumb celebrities you stupid hoes like stop putting your nudes in the cloud she obviously I'm paraphrasing right but she essentially said that yeah obviously and then
Starting point is 00:06:47 and then Bella Thorne went on Instagram a story not live but a story and she was freaking out like screaming crying and I was like this is the most insane thing I've ever seen so that's Bella Thorne to me yeah
Starting point is 00:07:00 I forgot about that entire thing You dumb hoes Stop putting your dudes in the cloud Whoopi Goldberg I'm Wuppie Goldberg I'm whoopi Goldberg Stop putting your dudes
Starting point is 00:07:13 I do I was in sister act one and two Look at me I'm a black woman And I got dreadlocks I have no fucking eyebrows What's up You want to
Starting point is 00:07:21 All right It's alopee show No I Oh, my God, that's so fucked up. I can't, I haven't heard Whoopi Goldberg speaking so long that I can't tell if that's really accurate or way off. That's very inaccurate. It's very inaccurate, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Like, that's disrespectful, actually. Let me see, let me see if I can impersonate Whoopi Goldberg from sheer memory, having not heard her in a long time. I got news for you. I hate you. I hate this house. I hate it here. Hate it here So Bella Thorne is in the news again
Starting point is 00:08:05 Because she I guess So what happened was I guess she joined only fans As a celebrity with millions of millions of fans Who are obviously dying to subscribe to If you could pay a dollar to see a celebrity nude A lot of people were probably going to do it Sure Just by sheer volume of the people watching them
Starting point is 00:08:24 And paying attention to them Sure So she made like I think a million dollars In like a week or something No, no, no, no. She made Well, first, she made a million dollars
Starting point is 00:08:34 in one day And in total As she was on Only fans, For however long she was on, she made a total of $2 million. Right. So she made $2 million
Starting point is 00:08:43 in the short amount of time that she was on OnlyFans. And I guess, apparently, on OnlyFans, there's this thing where I guess you can, like, tip. You can, like, send tips and you get rewarded
Starting point is 00:08:55 based on, like, how high the tip is or there's, like, content that, I guess, guess it's sent to... Yeah, there's... DMs. Yeah, so there are DMs that you have to pay to unlock, I think? Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yes, exactly what it is. Okay, it was really confusing to me, because I was like, aren't you already subscribing? Shouldn't you be getting this for free, but like, whatever? You would think that, right? That's how I would... That is how I would assume that business works, but I guess not.
Starting point is 00:09:20 This is the... Let me just interject real quick. The normal business model, because I've actually started to look into this. The normal business model is you subscribe for a certain of my... of money and then you get what's behind the subscription, the paywall. Now there's the other business model
Starting point is 00:09:35 is you subscribe for free and then there will be like ludes and then there will be paywalls for the good stuff. So that's how people, it's either you do that one or that one depends on how good you are at working or connecting. Yeah, it's like you pay for Disney Plus and then
Starting point is 00:09:51 they expect you to pay for Mulan. Exactly. Some fuck shit. Some stupid fucking bull. I'm already giving them fucking $6 a month. I'm not paying for that fucking movie. I don't care about Juan Ruland. Fuck that. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's how I feel about ESPN Plus where I'm like, okay, UFC's with ESPN Plus now. And it's like I still need to pay 60 or $70 depending on the pay-per-view. I still need to pay per view and have ESPN Plus to watch it. So I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going to pirate it. Look, I get it. I get it. Make Your Bread, I guess. But that business model inherently kind of bothers me.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's upsetting. But, but, regardless of. So I guess she promised, I guess she was like, she sent this DM out for, I think, what was it, like $200 or something? It's like, oh, pay $200 and you can unlock this nude and it wasn't a nude. So she was essentially scamming people. So a lot of people were like getting refunds so much so that Onlyfans got overwhelmed and they basically restructured the entire payout for the entire website because of the shit that Bell Thorne pulled. So basically, before I think it was every week you could get a payout. payout, but now it's like every
Starting point is 00:11:00 30 days. Yeah, they're like us bitch-ass YouTubers now. Yeah, and honestly, like honestly, dude, like this really reminded me a lot like when I saw it of, of, you know, stuff like, obviously like Moulon on Disney Plus, but it also reminded me specifically of
Starting point is 00:11:16 like the, when the late night jimmies came onto YouTube and just fucking seaged the trending page to the point where that was pretty much all it was. If your last name is Jimmy, I hate you. Your last name is Jimmy?
Starting point is 00:11:32 You idiot. So I don't hate anybody. It's Jimmy Kimball's first name is Kimmy? Did you imagine his name is Kimmel Jimmy? Kimmel Jimmy Jimmel. Oh my God. Did you imagine demanding respect with a name like that? Kimmy Jimmel?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Kimmy Jibble. I don't know, man. Like, it really did remind me of that. It's like where it's like, okay, you got this person who's incredibly, you have this person who's incredibly famous who probably isn't hurting really for money at all and she goes onto this platform that specifically exists for people who aren't
Starting point is 00:12:08 you know like people aren't on only fans because they're millionaires you know they're doing it because it's like hey this is a pretty good way to make money and this is what I'm choosing to do it's kind of like YouTube where it's like a lot of YouTubers they started on YouTube making independent content and then all these fucking rich people came on.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah, once the normal people built it up, they propped it up, then here comes the rich, greedy fucks to suck out all the resources. Yeah, now that you've spent years legitimizing it for barely any money, we're here to take all the money that's left. Yeah. Hey, we'll take the Google preferred ads. And then they ruin the site because they make it, they just, they inconvenience everybody when they're present on the site
Starting point is 00:12:55 because they're inherently paid more attention to, by the people who are higher up. They inherently also destroy them, destroy the relevancy of you guys, and change the medium. Like, people are going to, like, oh, the production versus the same thing as other stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And this is like, you're fucking up what we're doing. This is our art form and you guys came with all your money destroying it. Because now I can't compete with this shit you have. You're the fucking rock. How am I going to compete with you having a private jet? I got a car that fucking screams at me.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I got a regular-ass camera. I have a Ford Taurus. Like, what the, I have a Ford Taurus that was given to me. I didn't even buy it. Someone in my family didn't want anymore and they gave it to me. I found this Ford Taurus.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I found it. Bro, real talk. Like my fucking, my back windows don't roll down. And sometimes I have electrical problems to the point where my front ones won't roll down. And then sometimes my fucking, uh, my, uh, door a jar like comes on when my doors are fucking shut. It'll just pop open.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And then you'll just keep hearing, beep, beep. And I'm like, oh, my God. It just reminds me of how, like, not fucking wealthy I am. It just reminds me of, like, fuck. But I, that's the grind, though. It is the grind. But, like, I mean, they're not grinding. Bell Thorne's not fucking grinding.
Starting point is 00:14:13 She didn't need any fucking money. Like, this is the thing, like, when they get to a certain, you get to a certain point where you just, now you're just collecting. You're not, you're not, like, say, getting money to live. You're hoarding at the moment. Yeah, you're just collecting money. That's all you're doing. And look how many people.
Starting point is 00:14:31 She fucked over so many people because not only they did, there's a cap on tipping now. So there was the tipping system where it used to be, I guess, an unlimited amount, I think. Because now it's only like 100, I think. Now it's 50, I think. No, 50. It's 50 for the private messages to unlock. If you have like an unlocked post, I think that's 50. And then for the tipping system on the normal post, like if you were to post on your wall or your, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,
Starting point is 00:14:56 know, your account or whatever, like your feed, that's 100. So there's like the two different systems. And I guess that was, that's going to exponentially lower a lot of people their income because of the simps that were, you know, emptying their wallets. Now, I'm not inherently upset about, oh, because I'm not a fucking sex worker on Onlyfans. But that's true. The idea, what upset me because, you know, though, don't hate the player, hate the game. It would upset me that people were willing to pay that much money for shit. I'm like, come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I want you to be smarter. I want you to be like, for example, Riley Reid has a system where you subscribe for like $5 or something. And then even the stuff that is behind a paywall, it's still a chunk of change. But she has a big fan base. And it's like, I was like, that's reasonable. That's reasonable. Grow your audience. Like how we do.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And we only get money through fucking ad sense and then people donating to us every once in a while. You know, like, and then you have these other motherfuckers. Like, imagine like, oh, to get to get access to this podcast, you need to pay us fucking $100 or some shit. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's fucking wild. I get you. I feel you. So I'm not that.
Starting point is 00:16:16 That's not a bad idea. Honestly. Honestly, $900. 900 people. $100. Oh, my God. making off pretty good. All I'm saying, I'm not saying we're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I'm saying I'm thinking about it. No, I know what you mean. Like, I mean, it's, that's just capitalism, though, really. True. It's just like, you know, if you have a product that people are willing to pay for, it's really all that matters is the fact that you have an audience. It reminds me of, it's like, what is it, microsend transactions, right? Where it's like, that shit pisses me off.
Starting point is 00:16:48 But evidently, people fucking pay by the boatloads for the shit, because they wouldn't keep implementing them if they didn't make a lot of money. So it's like, at the end of the day, the blame, the blame really is on the customer. It is. I totally agree. And that's why I wish people would be like a little bit better about things. Like have a little bit of a, hey, guys, if you held out, you can change and influence the market. If you stopped shoveling, whaling is what they call it.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Like, I rarely ever play like games that have transactions and shit, like, like, like, like raid shadow legends or something. But I've learned all these terminologies because people, that are rich or whatever, willing to pay all this money, they ruin these games because they keep driving up the prices because people are willing to pay for this shit. Where's like, if you capped this shit, they would make it cheaper and then everybody can enjoy it. You would be fucking heroes.
Starting point is 00:17:40 But, I don't know, rich people are kind of fucking reading. They don't give a fuck. They just don't give a fuck. I don't know, whatever. They ain't like us. They ain't like us no more. Well, the thing is, yeah, with Only Fans, it's different because to me, like, I know,
Starting point is 00:17:54 I know a handful of sex workers now at this point. Like I've had conversations with many of them and it's like, they're all of them. They're really cool. So like, you know, I think they get shit on a lot. So if they can make money, I'm totally fine with that. Very true. But I do see like, and this, I really, I sympathize with a lot of these people.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Sympeth. Because you're a simp! I sympathize with a lot of this because it really does remind me of the fucking Jimmy invasion and just like all this shit where it's like, yeah, it sucks when. when people who are just fucking who really have no business being on the platform just come in and usurp it and then suddenly
Starting point is 00:18:30 they're the people who the platform is paying attention to. Yeah. Like obviously, like, Jimmy Kimmel can do whatever the fuck he wants. For sure. Like, he can do whatever the hell he wants on YouTube. He could, uh, he could make fun of people every fucking day, right? And he won't get banned.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Like, he will not get banned. He'll get preferred ads. He'll get a high CPM. He'll get all the, he'll get the fucking works because he's Jimmy Kimmel. And as much as I don't like Leifie, he was just making fun of someone over and over again, just like these late-night people do.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And, you know, he got fucking axed. Now, I'm not saying that Leafie probably didn't deserve to get axed, but I am saying that it's like, it's wild that the second that these celebrities come in, they have preferential treatment. And I totally, I totally get why people are pissed with Bellethorne. Yeah, they're totally... It makes perfect sense to me. above the rules essentially, like when it comes to the jimmies.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And think about, think about like Logan Paul, for example, who did something that we would never be able to recover from. If we act, even though, like, say,
Starting point is 00:19:35 in the behind the scenes, I think it's a little bit more complex. Are we talking about the dead body? Yes. Yes. Yeah, the fucking wind time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I think behind the scenes is a little more complex because I do believe, like when you examine everything, thing. I don't think that this is this quick, quick little theory. I think that the body was fake and the perception of it was real. And it was such a big deal that they really couldn't come back from it to the point where I was saying, no, guys, it was just a prank because overall it's easier to plead ignorance to be like,
Starting point is 00:20:12 oh, I didn't know. I'm sorry. Then to be like, I was willfully trying to make a mockery of some suicide and like that type of shit. I think it have been much worse of a... That sounds believable. Yeah, I think... So what happened was with the PR storm there was like, dude, just run with it because I don't believe at any point in time,
Starting point is 00:20:30 I don't think anyone other barring somebody who has literal mental health issues and they're stupid but not like, you know, to the point where they can't comprehend certain basic things. Like, everyone knows you can't put death on a thumbnail. Everyone knows that. You can't put a dead body on a thumbnail. Everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:48 There's an entire team of that Paul stuff. So I have to believe like, oh, if they were doing that, for sure they faked it. For sure. But it just makes more sense to go with, oh, we stumbled upon it because imagine if this shit storm it would be like, oh, never mind. We faked it. But my whole point is even with the perception of it, that's publicly the perception that it was a real dead body. If any of us did anything like that whether it was real or fake, we couldn't come back from it. We couldn't just lose our preferred ads.
Starting point is 00:21:19 We'd be fucking. We'd be gone, dude. like just like when you see like violence when there's these videos of like snuff stuff that some idiot puts on there they're gone immediately they're gone and so no it's it's what we I mean we don't even get
Starting point is 00:21:32 preferred ads in the first place oh fuck no I know geez so like so it's we're already at like a fucking disadvantage but like yeah we would never be able to recover from that like if if I showed like a child being like launched off a roof that'd be wild you know like
Starting point is 00:21:50 you get a bunch of you In fact, there was this, there was actually this one, there was actually one video I did on YouTube, where I broke all the community guidelines in two minutes. I remember that. I remember that. Yeah, it was on trending for like a little bit. And then they, they did something that I don't think I've ever seen, because that video definitely broke guidelines, right? But they didn't take the video down. All they did was, I think they age restricted it, and then they paused the views. that video has
Starting point is 00:22:23 that video has way more views than the view counter says it does and I know this because I've gone back and watched it I've linked it out several times since then and the view counter just hasn't gone up but the likes have so like I really genuinely don't know how many views that video has because it's frozen at like I think 800K because I think they saw on trending and they were like
Starting point is 00:22:45 whoa dude there's people have been trying to tell me and I've been trying to push back because I'm not a hugely conspiratorial person about certain things but a lot of people have been trying to tell me people that are even smart they're like dude YouTube
Starting point is 00:23:01 does manipulate things there are certain, it's not a bug like you think I think that there's a bug in YouTube and other people are begging the difference to say no there's certain things that are flagged on certain accounts and then there's certain things happen
Starting point is 00:23:17 they push you out of recommended the algorithm you, the cat, your views get capped this and this and that. I'm like, that just sounds crazy to me. But enough people... It sounds believable to me honestly. I get... I mean, I get, yeah, I basically I don't want to, for example,
Starting point is 00:23:33 my channel has been having a myriad of issues for years and I can't get a straight answer out of YouTube that does make it a little bit more plausible to me. But I'm like, why aren't they just give me a straight answer? What the fuck's wrong with my page? Because I know a handful of people that experience it every single
Starting point is 00:23:49 time they upload, even though their videos are highly rated, like in the 90s, there's barely any negativity, any downvots or anything, you still lose like a myriad of subscribers. So like, I've hit fucking 420 subscribers three times because normally I just keep growing, but then in the past two years or something, and some people are saying, they're speculating, oh, your channel is just marked or whatever. The only thing I can say is my CPM is infinitely lower. I'm having that issue and I've asked them Hey why can't I link my T-spring store
Starting point is 00:24:21 You know the merch shelf Like there's that fucking thing that I have I can link it to my I've had a channel since 2019 My metal channel Yeah I can link my merch on there I can link it on my second channel Black chat I can't link it on my main
Starting point is 00:24:34 And I was like guys what's wrong with my channel And they're just like Oh They don't give me an answer And so I don't know I don't know what to believe dude I don't know what to believe You know what I think
Starting point is 00:24:44 I think the site is so big and so complicated that there's a lot of issues that they just don't know how to fix and they just kind of ignore they just, it's better to just ignore people than say, we don't know how to fix this
Starting point is 00:24:55 because then like, that's a whole PR thing where it's like, well, you don't know how to fix this. There's a website and then blah, blah, blah, and it goes down there from there.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I agree. Because I, because YouTube is fucking huge. Like, they're, it's inconceivable how much content is uploaded to YouTube
Starting point is 00:25:09 every second. Every second. It's wild. It's really stupid. And the amount of people who are making money through it now Or even crazyer.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I mean, it's like a country. It's like a country's worth of people making money. Like, sure, there are people making millions. There are people making a couple thousand. There are people just making a couple hundred bucks. But there's a lot of people who make livings on this platform to the point where, like, there's definitely like a country's worth of people who are employed by YouTube, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:38 There's nothing like it. There's nothing like this that, that especially how even the requirements that they made, now. It's not even that difficult. Like, it's not that, like, say, if you can get, like, because I've seen some small channels that have no relevancy, they don't know anybody, so they don't have any reason to blow up, but they still had this one video that just got luckily caught in the algorithm, which, what happens to almost everyone that blows up, right? There's a specific video that gets caught in the algorithm, then all eyes on you, and then
Starting point is 00:26:10 you start getting a few hundred, a few thousand subscribers or whatever. And so if you can get, like, one viral video. video, you pretty much meet the requirements pretty quickly. And pretty much, yeah, based on the, like the method, based on how those site works. Yeah, you just need one video. Yeah. And one thing that one, one secret that every website that has some type of service, what they do is if you have a new account, the algorithm favors you, meaning that I've, I told
Starting point is 00:26:39 people that people that have dying channels, I tell them, start a new channel, start a new channel. start a new channel, you will have much more luck having that channel blow up than trying to recover your old account because your old account's already buried. It's already been passed over. But like the new ones are favorable. That's why, like, for example, on dating websites, if you use dating websites,
Starting point is 00:27:01 if you don't want to pay for their services or whatever to get yourself to the top, just keep creating accounts after a week or two, delete it and create another one. Because when you start it, you're put at the top. So that's the way to get more. So it's the same concept that I always tell people, if you want to get like, when I started my black metal channel, I had like two videos go viral on it pretty quickly
Starting point is 00:27:28 just because they just, oh, everybody's making subjects about these videos, but I have a brand new account. And then I just like, it just slid up to the top. And it's not because I have a big channel already because people don't like to deviate from that. You know what I mean? Like, say, you can have, like, my, my main channel has, like, 420K, and I can't get a third of those people to come
Starting point is 00:27:54 over to my new channels. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Like, so it's not that, like, oh, I have this huge advantage because people don't fucking budge. The people just like, hey, have this new channel, subscribe. They're like, no, I'm good. That's too much work. It's how it is. I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:10 I don't blame them, but my point is... Yeah, I mean, I really don't do it either. Yeah, I really don't blame it all, but I don't know, it's complicated. So I guess mostly YouTube's in confidence, incompetence is the reason why most of this shit's happening. But I was just saying that some people beg to differ and say that there's certain code that's placed on stuff. And if you have unfavorable content, you're suppressed. Yeah, no, I'm sure there's some system that flags certain channels at being like more of a risk for, like, oh, okay, we should keep an eye on this one.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Like, I know my Twitter is definitely, like, flagged by, by Twitter, like, 100%. Yeah, it's definitely mine too. Because every time, every time I post an image, regardless of what it is, it always says sensitive content. Oh, like always. Like, if you're not following me and you see a picture, a tweet of mine that went viral and it has a picture in it, it will always say sensitive, sensitive material present. And it's like, what?
Starting point is 00:29:10 It's usually just like, I don't even know, like a picture, a picture of like a fucking like a Pokemon gold cartridge that I found or something and it'll still have like that flag and it's so weird and I can't talk to Twitter about it because Twitter is just like YouTube where it's like they don't give a shit really. Yeah. Not really.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Yeah. Not really unless you're verified and I'm never getting verified. I was told that all you needed to get verified was you need to be like cited in articles and stuff and that was false because I had I've had several articles written about me at this point No, it's such such bullshit.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's two things. What was it? Gus. Johnson? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I probably should say that, right? But he made a good video about that showing how the system works right.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And it was all these really credible and people that are with a lot of notoriety that were getting rejected. And he was pertaining to be like the Twitter verification. and then there was like this kid that was like, it was a kid that was portraying like a journalist that basically just stupid and doesn't have any type of notoriety. Like, oh, here you go, here's your verified check. Because that's essentially, if you're considered a journalist, but nobody knows who you are and there's no reason for you to be verified,
Starting point is 00:30:26 you can be verified. Yeah, dude, I've seen so many verified accounts with like 2,000 followers or something. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? That's fucking wild. And so it's that and then it's definitely who you know because, I've seen people I know some people that have no business They don't even create stuff
Starting point is 00:30:45 They don't even create anything They're not even anything to offer to anybody They're just a person that exists And then they're verified I'm like okay What do you know? Who did you ask? And they're like hey no problem
Starting point is 00:30:57 You know hand it out It's so weird What is the verification of Twitter get you exactly Well there's a couple of perks Oh you want to take this Yeah well I don't know all the perks but I know that it keeps your notifications a little bit cleaner. It, um, I think it just, I think you're free from a lot of the, uh, the weird flags.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Like whenever, whenever I get, if I posted a picture of anything, uh, as, and I had a verified tick, I don't think it would say like, you know, sensitive material. Yeah, getting flagged is a lot harder because you are verified. Is Twitter at all lucrative? No, right? They're experimenting with it. Really? I mean, it's definitely lucrative
Starting point is 00:31:43 with investments and advertisement that they put on there. But as far as other people making money off of it, that's something that I know they've experimented with some creators. But I don't know if they're ever going to roll that out. But the verified thing, though,
Starting point is 00:31:57 there's, you can also, you can DM anybody. It doesn't matter if you're, if you're, if you don't have that available, they can still de-es. and um okay and also there's a there's a verification tab that say if you only wanted to filter out and see what verified people are saying your notifications that's another thing too because we all we all i feel bad that my my notifications are they don't work in a sense that i can see people when they when people follow me or when people are pretty like they have like a large
Starting point is 00:32:30 following or verified i can see when they like my tweets i can't see when they retweet them I don't know why. And I can't see when they follow me. When I had like under 10K, it worked perfectly. Where if somebody had like a big following and they followed me, I would be able to see it. There's a lot of people following me that I would love to follow back. But I have no idea who the fuck they are. Same, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:52 It's wild. They get lost in translation. Yeah. And there's no filter to filter out the people that are the most, the biggest or whatever. Like Instagram now has a feature that if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, somebody requests to DM you, there's a filter of like the latest messages or the top ones, meaning who has the most followers. And it's kind of nice to like, we, to have a filter so you can see who the fuck's messaging you. And, uh, yeah, yeah. So it's nice to be, it's nice to be able
Starting point is 00:33:21 to choose between them. Because like, if I have the option, if I have the option to choose between them, I will, I will, I will try and read all of them. Yes. But if there's a situation where it's like, I either have to pick between the people who follow me. or the people, or just everyone, and there's no middle ground, I'm not gonna have everybody because my phone's gonna be fucking unusable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And I'm not gonna be able to find anything. So like having a verified tab and being able to be like, okay, well, so I can still get notifications from everybody that I could see those. And I could see like some of the art that I miss or like some of the fan replies that I get that I just have no chance of seeing now.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. I can see the people who follow me and who I follow. And then I can see the people who are verified. I just think it's like a way better messaging system. It shouldn't even be locked behind fucking verified, to be, to be quite frank. It should be just like a base fucking function of the website. It should, but.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Very true. I don't understand what they're doing. I don't understand their, and I don't understand their algorithm and, like, were something, I had the same, I had the same thing happen to me when, when I was losing a bunch of followers on YouTube. And then, you know, like, knowing that it's some type of bug or something, like that, I feel like I had the same thing on Twitter, because when I was about at 90K followers on Twitter, I then just started losing thousands of followers every day to the point where I got under, like, I pretty much got to like 79 or something. I was like, I was like, what the
Starting point is 00:34:53 fuck happened? I'm like, I'm not, you know, no one's talking shit in my mentions. No one's like, fuck you, I'm unfollowing or you're a piece of shit. So I was, and then just randomly, probably a few months before the pandemic hit, all of a sudden, they just started waves just coming back. And I was like, what the fuck is? What is this? I don't understand. Like now I'm at 86 when like towards the beginning of the year I was probably under, I don't remember what it was exactly. Now they're starting to like come back and it's driving me nuts, man, that we don't have access to this information. Same for me. Same every so often. Like I go from like, I remember, what was it? I think like about the beginning of the year. I was at like 20,000. And then all of a sudden this year, I mean, I've been
Starting point is 00:35:37 rushed. I have been way more on internet now. Like I started doing Twitch. We started doing a podcast like that. And I started being like more creating. But I got like 12,000 followers in the like, no, that says the quarantine. It's, I don't get it. What the fuck. It's all this doomsayer shit. How's your Twitch doing, man? Let's talk about some fun. Let's something nice. On my Twitch, my Twitch, my Twitch is doing pretty good, man. I had like a ridiculously awesome stream today. Um, they usually come there and just make fun of how to bad I am at video games, which it's true. It's true.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm only good at like maybe three video games. I'm going to be real, man. I enjoy watching like regular people play video games opposed to like I like watching compilations of people that are like pro because I'm like, oh, look at that. That was dope. That was dope. But I enjoy watching people go through the struggle. You know, like to me, it's definitely a good back and forth.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Because I'm like, we've seen people be good at video. We've grown up in the era of people. Like, I don't want to see everybody. as good as Chris playing fucking what you call it playing Halo. Like that shit's just annoying, you know? It's just like, I don't care. I can't do that. I'm not fucking, I don't care. Like, I watch Smash Tournament. It's gonna'am. Like, I'm like, kind
Starting point is 00:36:42 of like a depth at. I'm not half bad at Destiny either. I have my moments where I'm horrible at destiny though. Like, I have moments. Like, today on the stream, I got like, my proficiency was 0.17. One of my games. It was really bad. Like, I was like, I was pretty much
Starting point is 00:36:58 a fucking blind man. That's like, what is that? That's like two kills in fucking 20 deaths. It's like two kills and there's like two kills and there's like one kill and 20 deaths almost. That's really, that's pretty rough one. It was a bad day. It's a bad day. It's a bad day.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It reminds me of like starting when I, when I first started playing modern warfare two, I was so discouraged because people are already like on modern warfare. I started with modern warfare too. So I was such a baby. It was like I hated playing because nobody wanted like, no one would want you on their team. doing like fucking team death match and you're fucking contributing just like that like 220 fucking ratio like that's so bad okay okay guys
Starting point is 00:37:40 all right it was really bad at first but I pulled it together right I pulled it together I put on my right armor I put on the right armor I put on the right armor I used the right subclass and I started getting crazy do you think you would be better at video games if you could play with Elon Musk's
Starting point is 00:37:57 brain chip installed in your head oh my god perfect transition let's talk about that what the fuck even is that I just saw a pig Trent the what's going on with that I don't even know So he just made
Starting point is 00:38:08 this thing called Neural Link which I guess is a chip that they just put in your brain and it lets you I don't know like It's just AR stuff where it's like oh hey Now you can Activate lights with a thought Or or play video games
Starting point is 00:38:24 With your mind or whatever the fuck And it's like presumably I mean presumably Assuming it works Yeah the idea is cool Which is a big if and also like I don't know man
Starting point is 00:38:36 I feel like the premise of getting a chip installed in your brain that lets you manipulate all sorts of technology without the use of your hands I feel like that shit would have been really awesome maybe like two years ago you know but for some reason I would have been all over this two years ago
Starting point is 00:39:01 but for some reason now it's like I don't know if I want Elon Musk in my head. Yeah, he's been chipping a little bit lately, but like, he's a genius. What happens? They kind of go crazy for a little bit. I just, I just, it's not about Elon Musk specifically. It's just about somebody with a lot of money and power putting a thing in my brain that
Starting point is 00:39:20 there's no way they're not like taking data from, you know? Well, absolutely. That's how, like, data mining is like how a lot of people make money. Yeah. Now. So it's like, oh, man, do I really, would I? I guess it's kind of like the cell phone thing, right? Where like every app that you agree to use and you sign the terms of service without like without actually reading it.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yeah. It's like that except extra because it's your fucking brain being tampered with. I don't think I would, I would be last of the party type of deal. Yeah. I couldn't. I would definitely be if, yeah, I feel you. Yeah. I really, I really do wish I could be excited about it.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Like I'm definitely like the seventh wave. Like after it's been going. going on for a little while and people aren't turning into like zombies like people are brains aren't turning into like fucking like soldiers for the certain cause I'm okay I'm down with it now because you know it's been like a few
Starting point is 00:40:16 years everyone isn't gone crazy people aren't people's brains aren't turning in a fucking gelatin like I'll jump on the train now but at first I'm definitely going to watch and wait yeah I don't know man it just it trips me out like I just don't understand how I don't
Starting point is 00:40:32 understand how somebody wouldn't use this for nefarious purposes. You know what I mean? It seems like such a freebie. It's definitely like some brig brain macro shit that I really can't understand.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You know, like, that's some like, that's wild to me. It's like that's so, that's such a fictional idea. That's like someone saying, oh yeah, dude. Elon Musk just first, or somebody in Europe is manufactured their first dragon. It's like, huh? Really? They're doing
Starting point is 00:41:04 that already? It's like, oh wow. crazy. It's just, they already do tricky shit with your fucking phones, you know? And that's, I don't know. Like, there's no way they wouldn't try some slick shit with your brain. Like, you'd be sleeping one day, and then you'd have an advertisement in your fucking dream. Yeah. Or like, or something like that, where it's like, oh, man, you're having like a night terror and then fucking the Pringles man saves you.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And then, oh, man, I'm better have sprinkles. I really owe him one. They legitimately talked about that in Futurama. Yeah, with the fucking iPhone thing. With the actual iPhone, yeah. Yeah, there was even like dreams like implanted into you where you're like, Fry was like naked in front of an audience or something like that and like, oh, get these, this underwear or something.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And then he went and bought them the next day or something. And it's like, dude, that's so nuts. Dude, it really does seem likely that that's, that's, like, if you could. conceivably, if this works and if all the promises are true, right? And you can use this thing to interface with devices with, like, hands-free
Starting point is 00:42:15 just with your thoughts. That must mean that they have some access to your brain in a really intrusive way. So there's nothing to say that they... There's nothing that says they couldn't put like an ad in your head. But also, like, how do you...
Starting point is 00:42:31 I don't know about you guys. But I know personally, there is a lot of things. things that I think that, you know, don't become words for reasons. Oh, abs so fucking lootly. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:48 The shit I think when I'm a little upset would get me put in jail. I mean, just the thought of, like, me, like, going over to my Amazon like Echo thing and it just activating it with my thoughts and it being like, I'm sorry, did you say fuck this guy? I hate him.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I hope he fucking dies and I hope his daughter explodes. I was like, what? Whoa. And you're in like a, you're at a, people are over at your house and they hear it. And it's like, no, man. Or what if you mistakenly think about nudes and you're mistakenly air drop news to everybody and you're like, God, fucking damn it.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You know what you can imagine? Like, God, shake. You mistakenly air dropped nudes. Mentally. Mentally. That's some dangerous shit, man. Like, stuff like that. That's why there's certain things like air dropping and the cloud.
Starting point is 00:43:34 There are certain things where I appreciate technology. but there's certain parts that I don't use. I don't use the cloud. I am totally fine with having an external hard drive to back up my stuff in. It doesn't have to be in a cloud to where if my shit crashes, I'll be fine. I have three external hard drives. I just don't trust that, you know, for whatever reason, if there's a huge security breach or anything happens, they have access to your stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:02 So I feel like if this neural truce. trancing, whatever you want to call it, whatever Elon Musk is working on, it's a feature that I probably wouldn't use unless I was forced to, you know, at a certain point where it's like, you have to, you have to integrate, you have to do this now. You got to comply. Yeah. When I'm 70 years old, right, and I have nothing left to lose and any nudes that would have been taken of me when I was young that would have been shared when I'm old would just
Starting point is 00:44:30 be flattering to me. Then at that point, I'd be like, yeah, whatever, fuck it. Yeah. I don't have a problem with it, but let me control, let me race my Roomba around my house with my brain.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I have no problem. I have no problem. Honestly, I have nothing to hide. They can show all my shit I don't go to fucking. Yeah, I don't actually.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Yeah, like I don't give a fuck. It would help you out, bro. That's the thing. That's the interesting thing. Like, whenever news get dropped of somebody, unless they're like,
Starting point is 00:44:57 you know, a hideous chud or whatever the case is. But like, barring that, whenever nudes get dropped to somebody, it helps them. They always get a, boost in popularity.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And I would love for the fucking new pick of me like lifting a fucking 25 on my dick. Like that'd be fucking fantastic. That'd just send me through the fucking stars. Just throw the 25 my fucking penis. Go ahead. I can share that all you want. I'll give a shit.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Fuck it. I'll be happy. I don't know. I definitely don't think this is definitely something that I think maybe once there have been reliable Because there's definitely going to be one version of this, like, surgical chip that, like, oh, guess what the battery explodes? Like a MacBook that's been alive for too long.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And it's like, what's- Inside your fucking head. Yeah. Definitely that danger. Fuck that. Also, just the thought of a battery in your fucking brain, dude. Like, what the fuck? How are you okay with that? That's so cool, man.
Starting point is 00:45:54 You get your brain charged. Do you understand? How do you charge it? I don't know. Fucking the fuck whatever activates in your fucking brain? Bro, if they ever... If they ever figure out... put like a
Starting point is 00:46:05 you have to put like a little yarmica hat that's like like a wireless charging station oh my god you gotta wear a yamaca and the jewish people win at the end we're all pretty much Jewish we're gonna get that the Shapiro model I'm down with that dude
Starting point is 00:46:18 oh my god if ben Shapiro got kicked in the mouth and his face turned into a shoe I'd be fucking happy yeah it's very very edgy it's not even edgy I just don't like that guy activate
Starting point is 00:46:30 wet ass pussy error no wet-ass Pussy found none yet he reminds me of that he
Starting point is 00:46:41 maybe this is a very specific thing to my family but when I was young in my Hispanic household my grandmother had this fucking cactus that would like it was like a toy cactus
Starting point is 00:46:52 that she would bring out every Christmas and it would sing for least Navidad and for some reason Ben Shapiro reminds me of that because he's just like
Starting point is 00:46:59 a very animatronic person and he just sort of like exists I've never seen him emote really except for that like creepy laugh he did yeah that was really the only time I've ever seen him emote he did do that opera singing
Starting point is 00:47:12 which was it was like people people see like people and you'll know this Chris there's there's people that they don't know what like real singing is like they they're like they're doing something and it passes off as like
Starting point is 00:47:30 oh that's good I'm like no you're just making loud noises and it sounds like, like doing like the, uh, well, that doesn't mean you sound good. Like, that's, and that's what Ben Shapiro was doing. And I was like, no, that's not, he's not fucking, like, he's not a tenor. Like, he can't, it's, it upset me that there was people like, oh, it sounds pretty good. And I'm like, God, we can, we, go listen to a, go listen to a Ben Shapiro album. On Joe, maybe Joe Button will do a review on it on his time.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I feel like, I feel like Ben Shapiro is the kind of guy that holds the door open for girls. and then girls kind of just push him out the way. Like he's just, he's just such a beta. You know, I, you know, when I was going to college, I held the door open for this chick because she was like at that point where it would have been awkward for me not to and I got accosted for it.
Starting point is 00:48:22 What? I remember being accosted for it. I remember she was like, I don't need you to hold the door open. Wow. Yeah, like, I don't need you to hold the door open for me. I was like, oh, she was super empowered. That's why.
Starting point is 00:48:31 This was like 2012, too. Super empowered. This is like, this is like really before I was doing anything that was even related to this stuff. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck was that? That was so baffling. I was just being a decent person. Yeah, but she's just ultra empowered, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Like, she doesn't need it. You see, that's why I don't respect women. Fuck empowerment, man. If you respect. No, on. Hold on. Empowerment is fucking stupid. Anything, anything that you perceive as empowering could be empowering.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I get empowered whenever people like try and criticize me on the internet and they're completely wrong about it because it just means that I get a free I get a free trouncing very masturbatory That's that's that's empowering to me I can empower people use the N word it just strengthens me I like I rise to the air like doctor fate in like freaking injustice and I'm like yes It's just it's just so weird that like The the word empowering is just so nebulous because it really is it really is It really just means you like it.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You know? That's really what it means. Actually, you want to hear something genuinely terrible? When people reveal the fact that I bother them, that shit empowers me, bro. No, yeah, it's great. That shit fucking elevates me to a new height where I'm like, yes. You're weak to me. It's like I get a really big kick out of whenever someone criticizes me and then their audience.
Starting point is 00:50:00 doesn't agree with them. It's always the funniest shit. Like, I remember, like, I don't know if you know who the serfs, the serfs are. Do you know who the serfs are, Derek? I'm not sure. No, I don't think so. There's, they're just this political podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I think they're, like, really, really, really left. I think, like, almost communist. Are they called the new serfs? It's called the serfs TV. Oh, it's the new Turks. Probably I'm thinking of. The new Turks. You're probably thinking of the young Turks.
Starting point is 00:50:24 The young Turks, there you go. Yeah, yeah, no, that's not it. But they had this thing. where like, because I went on Vosha's stream and I was just talking to Vosch about like some stuff. That was like one stream like a couple months ago and then the serfs were like, I don't know if the Chris Reagan redemption arc
Starting point is 00:50:42 can said do have really started if he's making videos mentally diagnosing trans people. And it was because of that video I made about the deer girl. Oh. Where I said because she was acting like a power hungry lunatic that she was crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Has nothing to do with her being trans. Dude, even their audience was like Nah, he wasn't talking, like, he wasn't calling her crazy because she's trans, dude. Like, I think you're wrong. Like, even his own audience. That was like, I love this. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I love it when this shit happens. And it happens a lot. It does because you realize that a lot of these people, I'll never forget, and I can't remember if it was, I don't know, she has, I can't remember her name. I can't, it doesn't matter. But she was one of the, she was one of the, that would probably be very close with the,
Starting point is 00:51:30 or, you know, those type of people that... Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just a little bit too radical. They're two balls deep in their ideals. And, um, they're, like, this, this lady was collecting all these thumbnails of, like, these reactionary takes on a subject. And I can't remember. I wish I remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:51:47 But mine, I was included in it. It might have been, um, it actually might have been Batwoman, the CW show. It might have been because of that. And a lot of people were like, oh, this is the worst thing. And, like, screaming. And my take was, um, it was. I don't like CW shows, not really. Why am I going to get angry over this shit that I'm not going to watch?
Starting point is 00:52:06 I had no intention on watching it. I don't care. And then so there were some people that mostly agreed with me, but then there were some people that were like, but they're taking over, you know, the reactionary take. Oh, they're taking over. The women are taking over. Something.
Starting point is 00:52:21 It's so ridiculous. The culture is in this and the, it's an agenda. That's the word I'm looking for. It's an agenda. And here are some of the most SJW moments in Avengers Infinity War. And I got to say, I don't know why all these women
Starting point is 00:52:36 are fighting alongside each other when women are supposed to be bitches in the kitchen. Damn, bro. That's powerful. I know who that is. It's relatable. Of course you know who that is because it can only be one person. To be bitches in a kitchen. Well, I mean, there's two people.
Starting point is 00:52:54 There's like, there's one person that, I mean, that's definitely him, his cadence and everything. but there's one other YouTuber that just, let me tell you something. One of the other reasons why I don't like, here's the thing, I'm going to eventually leave, I'm going to abandon my main channel.
Starting point is 00:53:12 There's stuff that I like doing on it that's still fun, but ultimately one of the main reasons, and I don't talk about it yet because I'm not leaving yet, but people like, oh my God, I can't remember his name, the guy that you were just making fun of. No bullshit, no bullshit. No bullshit. People like no bullshit and people like the quartering.
Starting point is 00:53:32 They ruined this genre for me. They, because they've taken everything they can find and make it some type of reactionary bullshit where it's like, where it doesn't, there's no need to say anything. Like I started just noticing that like, say, for example, when Mortal Kombat 11 came out and there was people that were freaking out, okay, there's people freaking out about the whole microtransaction type thing. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But then there was people like, it's so woke and I examined it. I'm like, there's a couple of things that are weird, but, like, I shrugged my shoulders overall. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Like, not every, there's not an agenda and everything. It's just some people were like, I like this. I'm going to put this in the game, and you just happen to not like it that much. It doesn't mean that there's something behind it.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Like, there's some puppet master shit. I don't know, dude. And even honestly, even if there was, to me, it's honestly, like, to me, the opinion has always been like, if people want to do something, then they should, be able to do it and they shouldn't be bullied into having that their own version of whatever they want to do changed. Exactly. Because it's ultimately, because it's ultimately like their show or their movie or their game to make. Like if you wanted to make a very, very, a super, super left wing, like a woke social justice game, I think you should be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And I think it should be fine. As long as you're not being pressured to make it or as long as you're not being pressured out of ideas. You know, like, if somebody was, like, trying to make a, like, a really woke game, and then, like, some company was like, oh, this is too, this is too, uh, woke for us. I, I, I would be annoyed by that because that's stifling, that's stifling creative freedom and that's always been,
Starting point is 00:55:08 my opinion. Yeah. Um, it just so happens that, like, early on, it was a lot of, like, video games that were being changed, uh, to appeal to the kind of, like, super sensitive, like, oh, you know, there's too many scantily clad women in this, how bad? And it's like, well, they want to make that, so let them make it. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:27 But it's still, the logic still applies the other way. Like, it's, it's, yes. They shouldn't be, they shouldn't be bullied into changing their, their vision just because it might upset people. Yeah. Remember the, the, I remember people that, uh, were freaking out about cyberpunk. Like, oh, you could be like trans or have all these different gender or whatever. And I was like, who, who, fuck? Why? It's a fucking video.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Why do you care remotely? And the type of creatures that I've made by playing RPGs. I'm like, it's some of the funnest thing about it. It's just, they're just threatened by stuff like that. It's just threatened by the idea that like, oh, they're just going to try to make this everything. No, it's not everything. It's this thing. And if you have a problem with it, then just ignore the medium overall.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But you don't have to be mad about the fact that somebody made something a way they wanted to make it. It's their creation, you know? It's confusing to me in the case. of cyberpunk because the entire genre of cyberpunk is based in like transhumanism sure the whole point the whole point of cyberpunk as a genre is this is this generalized concept that you can just sort of customize yourself to your liking and you can you and people are essentially machines and you can swap out parts and be whatever the hell you want to be and like that's kind of the like of all the things to have that option cyberpunk makes the most sense yes like I feel like
Starting point is 00:56:49 Like, I, I, I feel like it might be a little weird in, like, Skyrim or something. But, like, even then, it's like, ah, you know, whatever. It's, it's there. Like, it's not a big deal. Yeah. But it fits perfectly with cyber- It totally fits. I don't, I agree, totally.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Very, very weird. And you know what? I thought, I thought options, the more options are better. That's what I thought. My take was always, oh, I, I have more options to do shit. And then usually that makes people a lot more happy because then they can have all these different outcomes, all these different looks or whatever. I remember playing.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Assassin's Creed Odyssey and all the hardcore Assassin's Creed fans, they didn't like the game because it's so different. But that's why I liked it because I'm so bored of that fucking franchise.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But one of the cool things they adapted a lot of those type of choices and things that you can do from a lot of the best RPGs. And it became really fun. But one thing, they got a huge amount of backlash
Starting point is 00:57:42 because in one of the DLCs or whatever, they took the choices away where it seemed like you had the choice of like there was this guy that you could go with, you know, and maybe you're going to start a family or something, and say, uh, Cassandra, my Cassandra was a lesbian. I was like, no, I don't fucking, I ain't touching you. I was only banging chicks. And so, of course, they still made you bang and have a kid. And I was like, what the fuck? And so I looked at,
Starting point is 00:58:09 because I was late to the party. I was Googling it and people were furious because they're like, what, what are you doing? Where's my options? And so my point is, people love the options. I don't understand why you don't have to be, you can be a man, you can probably be a burly man in cyberpunk with some robot shit. Like, dude, you could, dude, you've been, we've been, we've had you make your dick. No, hold on. We've, we've, we've had the option to play as furries in Skyrim and like Elder Shores for fucking nearly 20 years. There are cat people, there are fucking werewolves, there are reptile people. If you can accept, if you can accept that, I don't, I don't I don't know. I just don't get it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah. And you know, something else is interesting to me. I didn't see any backlash in Street Fighter 4 when Poison was introduced because Poison's a trans woman. Yeah, she is. She is. I remember hearing that from, what you go? I remember hearing about that in like Alpha and I think Third Strike and I was like, really? She was always that way.
Starting point is 00:59:12 She was with Hugo, right? She was with Google, right? I don't. It's the giant dude, like the gigantic guy she's with. I didn't know the I don't know the the lore of that I don't know if they together but she was like she was like a part of his character like in like three they would be just shown together interesting okay well yeah they basically they made and it's not like it wasn't in and I could be wrong somebody could correct me but in my opinion it wasn't like a retroactive thing where they were like oh by the way it was the creator saying oh poison is a trans woman like when they introduced her as a playable character and I did it. if I, maybe I missed the backlash, but I didn't fucking see shit, man. I'm sure there was like a handful.
Starting point is 00:59:54 There was probably a couple, right? But there was, that's different, that's different than some, like, some loony tune on Twitter being like, Samis is trans. Samis. Samis is trance. Yeah. It's the old, and so my, to my original point,
Starting point is 01:00:13 I am kind of tired of being lumped in with, Those two fucking people that we mentioned that they make content every day for the sake of making content because it's about money, right? And feeding the outrage machine where I made things because, number one, if I can make fun of it, let's try to make something. Let's try to make fun of it. It wasn't about being angry. It wasn't about being like, I want you to leave this video being furious. Like there was only a handful of times where there was something that I actually believed in. I thought this was really annoying and I need to be serious about it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 No jokes, but... Yeah, very rare. Rare. So typically trying to like, you know, lighten the mood, even if it's something that is a little bit nuts. Like, when we saw all those videos of like the, you know, the... I call them progressive IDLogs, because that's what they really are, but, you know, they were called the SJWs. When all of those, like, crazy, you know, the people screaming and all this shit, that shit was funny. It wasn't like...
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. It wasn't like, oh my God, America's turning into a cesspool or whatever. It was just like, no, let's make fun of this stupid shit. It's fun. Because it's stupid, honestly. And somewhere along the line, the people that they're making just accounts just posting every day, they're looking for anything to be outraged on. I'm like, dude, I don't want to be, I don't want to be around you people. You guys, you poison the well.
Starting point is 01:01:43 It's not fun anymore. Yeah, yeah, I totally. I feel you. I totally agree with you, or it's like it's, because I think the difference is just how seriously some people began to take what was initially just supposed to be jokes. Yeah. It's very weird. It's kind of like, it actually mirrors a lot of what you see kind of happening on late night sometimes. Where like, you know, late night used to be this thing where like, you know, it was political in the sense where they like, they would make jokes about politicians and like, you know, they would occasionally like interview a politician and like, like, you know, they would occasionally like interview a politician.
Starting point is 01:02:16 and like talk about it there. But like now it's like you go on to, you know, Colbert's late night show and just the opening monologue is, it's not really funny. It's just like kind of moral grandstanding. And it's like, hey, look at how good of a person I am. And it's like, it's kind of the same thing here where it's like, oh, look at this cartoon that has, I don't even know, like liberal leanings. how awful I'm going to clutch my pearls and it's just like look at how good of a person I am that I'm standing up to this
Starting point is 01:02:50 and it's like calm down dude I think like you mentioned no bullshit in the quartering no bullshit I think is infinitely worse I think he's also just his brain is melted he is remarkably stupid Jeremy
Starting point is 01:03:10 he's a businessman I'm conflicted. Jeremy, I'm conflicted on because, like, I, I've spoken to Jeremy, and I like Jeremy, like, in private and in person. Yeah. Like, he's a chill dude. Like, I understand what he's doing. And I think even he knows. He's a businessman. He's a business person. He knows what he's doing. And he, he expects that people understand that too. And I, I don't really, I don't really, I'm not as annoyed with him. I agree. I totally, I totally understand that it's still the same thing, ultimately, at the end of the day. because it's kind of like whether or not whether or not you're doing something
Starting point is 01:03:44 like unironically or ironically you're kind of still doing it but at least there's like some semblance of transparency with Jeremy but like no bullshit's just no bullshit might be one of the stupidest people I've ever seen to the point where I worry
Starting point is 01:04:03 to the point where I worry about whether or not making fun of him is ableism that's fucked up that's fucked up that is fucked up holy shit it's like I genuinely
Starting point is 01:04:16 like I genuinely think he might need help maybe someone should get in contact with people close to him dude because it really it really is and I say this with no exaggeration
Starting point is 01:04:30 he's this he is the stupidest person I've ever seen like I've I've that I've ever seen I've lived in Manhattan I've seen people eating out of sewage drains.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Oh my God. And at least... That's some Manhattan shit, dog. That's not the Bronx. That's definitely some Manhattan. You're fucking all the fumes getting... Eating out of garbage. I'm really sorry to say that it was the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Manhattan's not the Bronx, bro. No, I'm just... I mean, what the fuck? Not everybody in this podcast listening to this is familiar with the locales of New York. Manhattan's just a general New York City. Okay, I guess. I mean, I wouldn't...
Starting point is 01:05:09 I wouldn't... I wouldn't say somebody... I guess that's true. I wouldn't say to people who weren't familiar with New York that, like, oh yeah, I ran to this dude in Bed Stey. You know, like, they don't have no fucking clue with that means. Because I have no idea what the fuck that is. That's insane of me, but I guess I'm from that city.
Starting point is 01:05:25 But when I said Manhattan, you assume just New York City, right? It's like people that are not familiar with SoCal, they would consider Burbank, L.A. It's L.A. It's L.A. County. But it's not... That's true. It's not the city.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Proper. Yeah. The Burbank is a fucking place that where people have a zip code and shit. So I mean, it's still a point where people, Brits would fly over here and we'd be at VidCon, Anaheim, which is in Northern County.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And they'd be like, oh, yeah, whatever. I'm not even going to fucking say anything. Oh, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:56 It's entirely different. But I still say to people that like, yeah, I live in LA because it's just easy. It's just easier. It's just like, I'll give you a little regional background. This is,
Starting point is 01:06:03 I live here. But yeah. But then when you get from the area, because that's what we do the same shit too. I remember we went to go see Conan in 2010. And it was the guy that was like the pre-show prepper dude. And he was asking us certain things. He was talking to my friend Wyatt.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And like, oh, where's your, where are you guys from? And then we're like, oh, we're from North O.C. Like in La Habra. And he was like, oh, so what is that? Like 714? And then we have, we're on the border of L.A. County. So we actually have this 5-6-2 area code that shared with like Long Beach and shit. like that and we just gave them the sour face
Starting point is 01:06:41 because we're very territorial. We're like, what the fuck? We're like 5-6-2 and like, oh, dude, don't fucking shoot me. God damn. But it's just like, it's such a weird, specific thing that if you're not from that region, no one would give a fuck. That's such an old school. That's such an old school thing too, like the area code supremacy.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Yeah, of course. Dude, it's like the, it was just neighborhood to supremacy, but the area codes when you defined it at it? So it was like, yeah, where you're from? I'm from the 7-1-8, fool, what about you? Like, 7-1-8? I'm from the 9-1-8. 917 and it's like oh what's good
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah And then you're a little fight breaking out Because you guys have different numbers Different numbers Yeah And then and then you have all the You have all the two on twos watching like This ain't gonna be pretty huh
Starting point is 01:07:21 This ain't gonna be pretty man We gotta get out of here I'm ashamed to admit I'm ashamed to admit Because I remember Go ahead What You got into an area cold fight
Starting point is 01:07:30 I That's some Cali shit dude That's really some California shit I still I'm I'm a I still have pride in my 560 area code. It's, I can't completely, I can't completely shake it, man.
Starting point is 01:07:46 When I see the, when I see the numbers, like say, for example, this is, this is stupid. When I see, like, I'll make a tweet or something. And then I'll catch it. If I do, if I catch it and it has 5, 62 lights, I'll, like, take a screenshot. I'm like, oh, hell yeah. Just like, it's ingrained in me, dude, because we're so like that. And, and, uh, it's, I, was just passing by this truck.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It says, this dude's from Oakland, so he's reping the Raiders all hard, and it has, I forgot the area code, but the area code's on his fucking truck. It's on his truck. It's just like a, it's a weird thing that I still don't shed. And, uh, I, I recognize how stupid it is, how stupid and pointless it is. But I just, boomers shit, bro, but I respect it, honestly. I fuck with it. I, I do.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I, I understand that. Like, I do know, like, I've seen, um, I have a few friends from back home. I have, I have nostalgia for my New York area. I still have the same number I, this is still the same cell phone number I had back in, back when I lived in Yonkers. So I still have a 911. I still have my Lachydon. I have my 845 one still. Guys, I'm so, and people call it the 845, literally.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah, 4-5, yeah. People, people do that. I, I, I've moved too much to also really care about that. But, like, I understand. I should be like that, because I've had multiple. I've had 714. I've had Arizona area code because I lived in Arizona briefly. And it bothered me, which is, it's a stupid thing to even think about like, like actually
Starting point is 01:09:22 being outside of myself and thinking about this. I'm like, this sounds so fucking embarrassing to people like that don't actively do this shit. It's embarrassing. But you know what? I'm respected. Somebody being able to shit on their own face. It's like, that's disgusting and embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:09:36 You shouldn't be proud of that. but also I respect the fact that you can shit on your own face. That's kind of wild. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we got some questions here. Some of these... Oh, my God. That was disgusting.
Starting point is 01:09:51 That was gross. Wasn't that wild? That sounded like Gerd, man. That's not like that fucking acid reflux. That was gross. That wasn't a burp. That was something that wasn't ready that you forced out of yourself. Yeah, I actually spat up something that looks fetal.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Oh. You eat babies known? I mean, no, but I just made one. It might be cum. It's incubated cum. He spit your own cum upon yourself. That's so fucking disgusting. That actually gross me out. All right, so we got some questions here. Some of these are actually carried over from last week because we couldn't get to them in time. Just wanted to get to them because they were pretty good.
Starting point is 01:10:30 First question comes from my ransom your mom. Nice. He wrote in. He says, I'm a big fan from Malaysia. Which is insane I know somebody over there That's a piece of shit Did they ever figure out what happened In that plane?
Starting point is 01:10:46 They didn't dude The one that got was missing over there Yeah The Malaysia Airlines They found pieces of I think they might have found pieces of it I think that's it I probably think about an older god bro
Starting point is 01:10:56 It's the damnedest thing They found the plane in the ocean But it had four more wings Frangest thing That shit scared me That shit's on a fucking shivered through me. I was like, four more? Four more years?
Starting point is 01:11:09 That's like a scary story. Four more years? Oh, shit. All right. So, uh, I'm a big fan. Sorry, go ahead. Wait, what were you saying? I was like, flights to Malaysia, 338. You want to go? Uh, no.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I have a big fan from Malaysia and I've always wondered. Is the, is bullying the way it's portrayed on popular TV, wedgies, wet willies, locker shoving, etc., actually real? And if not, what were the comments? bullying tactics deployed by hormone rage devils and how are you scarred when you were young great love i've always wondered this too because like i i i've never seen anybody shoved in a locker
Starting point is 01:11:48 or given a wedgy ever i think i know the answer to that i've seen i've seen like real fucked up bullying but like i think i know the answer to that i dude i think it's regional i think it might be regional because um i knew somebody uh when i went on this tour and to that And I met this girl in Michigan And we were talking enough to the point where she started telling me about like bullying from the Midwest or whatever you fucking consider All that shit Michigan Wisconsin or all that and it's all of that bullshit you see on TV That gets the the the the the the the shoving and lockers and the fuck all that dumb shit I was like what the do? Do people do that shit in California? I've never seen anything like that so I think now
Starting point is 01:12:32 Sweeney you may have some extreme shit but maybe that's some New York shit I don't I've seen some fucked bullying, bro. I've seen fucked bullying when I lived in a Bronx when I was like a kid. I was like, what the, I remember there was one, there was one, this is the most fucked up story ever. It was, it was in PS freaking, which call it 53. A fucking fifth grader beat up three fucking third graders. And I was just like, what the fuck? He beat him up and he took their shoes.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And I was like, what's the wrong with him? He can't even fit. shoes. I never understand. The shoes things, it's just disrespect, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:13:12 I thought that was a point of it. He's going to have to, he's going to have to walk through the fucking disgusting-ass bathroom in a fucking New York City fucking school with no fucking shoes. I also seen kids like get their pants though, like they beat their pants off them.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Like one kid fuck sign up in gym class and like he goes back to the lockers and they beat him up and take his pants. So he has no, he has no like real pants. He has to wear his basketball shorts that are all stinky. It's a little like,
Starting point is 01:13:36 it's a little... It's different. It's more beating up. It's more beating up than it is like that stuff. Like usually kids get like beat up. It's just more violence. Yeah, right. But like the thing that's funny about it is like yeah, I really, it really does seem like these kinds of things, these like weird like petty like wedgies,
Starting point is 01:13:53 wet willies, fucking locker shoving. It really does feel like it's something that you would do if you lived in a suburb because in a suburb you can't easily mobilize. You know what I mean? Like, the set, when you're, when you live in a city and you've been bullied in that way, you've been shoved in a locker, you go home, you walk across the street and you're already with your friends. And you're like, how are we going to, how are we going to take this fucking guy out? That's true. You know, I mean, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I thought about that. But in the suburbs, it's like, you go home and then you just, you have, you look outside your window and you, you whisper to a deer that's like prancing by you, maybe. But like, that's, like, that's all you're doing. Mr. Dia, they bothered me yet again. Like, I can run into their mom while she's driving. and I can make it so they'll never bother anyone ever again. It's like, no, Mr. Deer, your life means far too much to me. The deer offers you to kill.
Starting point is 01:14:44 The deer archers. The deer cranes its neck over to you, like one of those, the last of us clickers. It just like creaks over to you. He says, I can help you. What do you need for me? I can help you. No, he says, I can help you. He scampers off, and the next day he doesn't come into school, and there's a car wreck in the parking.
Starting point is 01:15:05 fucking lot because a deer fucking sumo slammed a fucking car with the bully in it. A deer fucking swan ton bomb the fucking car. That is a noble deer. But yeah. I assume it's, I assume it. I assume Derek's right. It's real, but like I've, I've never seen it.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I only saw like the, the generic kind of violent stuff that. It was violent. It was other violence or like a lot of like verbal abuse, like, while really putting people down. It was just, it was just violence or teasing. Like,
Starting point is 01:15:34 I don't really remember. being really bullied. Like, people would just call me names. But that was really it. Like, nobody ever, like, physically accosted me. In Catholic school, I remember, like, I remember being lifted by my tie once. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:15:48 By, yeah, I remember. Like, I was, like, in, I think, maybe second grade in some, like, sixth grader or fifth grader was, like, lifting me up by my tie. And you were like, can you put me down, I guess? Yeah, like, because my, because the uniforms were so tight that, like, even lifting me up by my tie couldn't really choke me. It was so form fit.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Because it was so form fit. So I was just like, can you just, I'm really uncomfortable. Can you like put me down? But that was really the only time that I remember anything like that looked like a fucking John Hughes movie style bullying. That was like the only time that I remember that happened. It happened to me definitely. But like it happened to me for a little while. Like I, like as you guys probably wouldn't believe now, when I was younger, I was actually extremely like nonviolent and nice.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I was like really not like a bad kid And what happened was in the Bronx They'll kill you if you're like that They will, it's like LA probably too They'll kill you If you are not If you don't have the fighter's instinct They will bully you
Starting point is 01:16:48 So the fucking end of time So I remember right before It was like when I was in like sixth grade I went to Diana Sands 339 You were walking up past I think it was Clamont Park It was down past website When I was walking some kid pushed me over
Starting point is 01:17:01 And I was gonna cry And I saw my cousin He was like get up and fight him or someone to fuck you up and I was like oh man I don't want to fight some guy so I fought him I beat the kid up and then I loved how good it felt and I started being a bad kid it felt so good because I was for so long I was getting bullied and I was just like for long I was getting made fun of for not being mean that I started doing it and it felt like a drug that my grandma was like we have to move him away from here he's gonna end up in
Starting point is 01:17:27 jail so he moved upstate oh wow it's so funny it was dude it was I wasn't the only reason why, but definitely me and my cousin being absorbed by the hood mentality of New York City was affecting why my grandma moved, definitely. I think that's why I was just like, we got to go. Yeah, I think that's when my mom moved out because she lived in L.A. like her whole life. And then I think she was like, yeah, I don't want to, I want to make sure that my kids are out of that environment.
Starting point is 01:17:56 And because I think about that, I was like, I wonder what the fuck I would have, I wonder what I would have turned out if I grew up in South Central. I'm in jail probably you're dead Yeah maybe I'm very real But my mom also told me though Because I asked her I asked her that
Starting point is 01:18:14 Because my dad died when I was four And I asked her like yo did we move after that Like that's when you plan to move She told me and which I'm so glad This doesn't happen Because she said like No we were actually thinking about moving to This place called Minifee
Starting point is 01:18:27 Which is just a bunch of suburban pasty white folks And I was like oh my God They got to live there Because I would probably be biggest piece of shit like Lord Byron? I don't know. Like I would just be like some, I don't know what the fuck I'd be like because I grew up with a lot of, I grew up with a lot of Mexicans, a group of a lot of people that just came
Starting point is 01:18:46 from Sonora and I was chill. I love, I love where I grew up. And I can't imagine being, who know, like, would I be fucking like in polos and would I be playing fucking, what is that shit called? Lacrosse? A cricket? Yeah, like, dude, I would be so, I mean, how could I be mad because I'd be that person? But maybe inside I'd be dying or something.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I love that, I love that LaCross is like a fate worse than death. LaCross? My niece from the hood plays lacrosse, so I don't, I don't judge LaCross. But if you play, like, polo or some shit, you're a fucking patient. I think it's different when, like, women play, like, sports like that are fratty bro stuff. I usually applaud that, but when I see, like, I don't want to sound like, I don't I don't know. I don't want to be discouraging, but like seeing like, I saw like niggas playing lacrosse. I'd be like, do what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:19:39 I'd be, I'd respect him because I'd like he's obviously going to be the best. He's obviously the best. That's very true. Like, good for you. Good for you, my young king. It's such a- tear them down wherever you can. Tear them down whenever you can. Pick your, we are allowed in this game to play against them.
Starting point is 01:19:54 We must destroy them, allowing them and know the status quo. We are better athletes. I remember, I remember distinctly, I remember distinctly being fear. when I moved upstate. Oh, same. Because I remember being like, because I was like, oh, man, there's nothing around. I, like, because I was just getting to that age where I could start walking around, you know, properly by myself. So, like, the idea that, like, oh, you can finally explore this place that you've grown up in by yourself and on your own and you can, like, go buy shit.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Now that you can do that, we're going to move to a place where you need a car to do everything. You know, so that's like, fuck, that's like six more years. that I have to wait before I have any semblance of freedom. It was like the worst shit. For me, I moved upstate, but I moved to Pekipsy first. And the Pipsi's kind of cool. It reminds me of the Bronx is like a little less, a little more crackheady and a little smaller. And I was like, this is fine.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I don't mind this at all. The Cipsey's kind of cool. And then I remember we moved to Fishgill where I was around a bunch of Asian and Indian people. And I was the only, it was like me and like three other black friends. Turns out the Indian kids were hell of fucking dope. And the Asian kids were fine. So, um, yeah, it was a bunch of like very prissy white people. And I hated that shit.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And my grandmother was just like, I moved here so you wouldn't become a statistic. And I was like, grandma, jokes on you. I'm still definitely a statistic. Everybody's a statistic. That's how statistics work. At least not a dead statistic, I guess. Yeah, whatever. At the very least.
Starting point is 01:21:27 If I was dead, you know, I'd be at slubby piece, you know. You're going to be worrying about bullshit anymore. that's a good point next question james passmore james passmore wrote and he says what's a show movie video game etc
Starting point is 01:21:41 that you thought would be cringe but you actually found yourself enjoying by the way I asked this because I recently started watching Naruto and it's pretty neat you're not welcome here anymore James Passmore I agree
Starting point is 01:21:52 for your support I wouldn't say you're not welcome in here but it's not that good of a show it's better that's better um what show that I thought was gonna be kind of lame I thought Castlevania was gonna be kind of lame
Starting point is 01:22:01 and then I watched it and I was like, holy fuck. I was like, holy fuck, this shit, thwax. I was talking about passion, dude. I was talking about like, I love when artists, you can tell like there's a difference
Starting point is 01:22:14 between someone making a paycheck and people creating what they want. And I was like, Castlevania is one of those things that has no business being that good. You know what I mean? It's just like, what the, this is every,
Starting point is 01:22:26 the fucking score, everything about it. I was like, even the school, I remember the school, I remember, like, tracks from it, and, and that rarely happens in, like, anime or anything like that that I fucking watch. Or I was like, holy shit. Totally. I think Dragon Ball Z was the only thing that I remembered as an anime that, like, I could remember individual, like, songs from.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Because it was just so fucking insane. I was a weeb. So I remember, like, a lot of the anime music, I least to listen to. Like, Cowboy Bebop is like that. Like, I remember that shit. I remember. That was a good theme song. Garon.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I mean, I mean, the score is good, too, dude. We're not talking about the, the score is really good. but it's, the score is good, but could you remember, like, a specific track, like, by name or, like... Not by name, but I can remember, I can probably remember the scenario in which it was played. Oh, yeah. Yeah, fair enough, yeah. That's fair enough. Yeah, I, I gotta say, like, I think that was my answer, too, like, Castlevania.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I was really not... We watched it out of peak curiosity. Out of the clear blue stuff. There's no way this is going to be good, because it's a video game adaptation. It's animated. It's an anime adaptation of a video game. It's like, you couldn't make something... That sounds as a premise, really.
Starting point is 01:23:31 terrible. Yeah, you couldn't have sold that idea to me. Yeah, and it was on Netflix, too, which they were, like, recently running, running off of the immense high from making a terrible death note, live action. So it's like, I don't know, man, that, that show really fucking
Starting point is 01:23:46 surprised the shit out of me. I thought kind of the same thing. I thought the same thing about Breaking Bad, to be honest. Like, when I, I didn't get to, I didn't start watching Breaking Bad until, like, the last season was, was, was, beginning to air because everybody had sang its praises for years and I was like oh my god
Starting point is 01:24:06 everybody's talking about this fucking show and I just uh it just looks like a bald man going like whiling out like I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to be like what's so interesting about this and then the and then the second I was like oh it's the final season and it's like all right well if this is the last one I guess I've got nothing to do I'm depressed and single and I live in my parents house I guess I'll watch this damn that's life and I watched real talk and I watched all five seasons in like the span of like a week and I was just like this is fucking incredible this is like way better I didn't think it would be cringe but I didn't think I would like it because I typically hate dramas like I'm not really into dramas at all the same thing
Starting point is 01:24:46 with me more of a comedy person I thought game with because I'm that's before I really admitted to my true like liking of fantasy because I thought fantasy was for fucking lunatic weirdos which I am so I was like I don't know why I don't like this but I started watching Game of Thrones and then Game of Thrones helped me go back and read the token books, which also helped me understand fantasy in general, just like, catch it like, not exactly fantasy, but like magic and high magic. I actually really think that is like such a very insanely good basis for fictional stories. Like I think it's super, super, super good.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And it made me also fall in love even more with like Destiny and even Halo because Halo has its low magic moments and it has like ridiculous like what the fuck space rending bullshit moments where it's like wow so definitely Game of Thrones helped me really explore my love for fantasy because I didn't I didn't think I was gonna like it as a bunch of white men How did you like that ending of what game of Thrones it hurt But it made sense it was a bunch of game of Thrones It was a bunch of white men fighting with swords and I was like I don't want to see white men doing good
Starting point is 01:25:47 That's been everything I've seen in every form of media my whole life I'm done looking at this Hold on a second hold on a second what did you mean by it made sense The ending of Game of Thrones? Yeah, what did you mean by that Particularly De Nairis react behavior made sense It did The whole time Okay Derek Derek
Starting point is 01:26:07 Please explain to me Derek listen to me Okay look I'm not saying it was done well But I'm saying Her going crazy and burning down Kings Landing Yeah
Starting point is 01:26:17 Kind of made sense Because of the fact that the whole entire series From the very beginning Everyone was praising her For breaking shackles And destroying evil And in her mind The freaking what you call it
Starting point is 01:26:30 The Lannisters and King's Landing was the ultimate evil to her. The people weren't. No, when, like, okay, I understand it was a bit of a radical way of it being done. That's not,
Starting point is 01:26:40 that doesn't make sense. That's the entire instance. It's the entire antithesis of her character, bro. Her, her, have you read any of the books? Dude,
Starting point is 01:26:49 if you descend into madness, that sounds plausible. It happened too fast. It happened too fast. That means it doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong. That means it doesn't. That means it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:27:00 It doesn't. make sense. Her ending reaction was extreme. But I think she would have still. It was completely unbelievable. Look, I don't like how it happened. Okay. Stick your piece.
Starting point is 01:27:12 See your piece. No, because you said it made sense. Her snapping instantaneously when everything before that would suggest that she wants to save the people makes zero sense. I mean, that's not exactly true. If you watch season. It is exactly true. No, season five, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:29 She was going to burn down all. of Marine if Syrian didn't stop her, bro. You see, you didn't pay attention, my guy. You weren't paying attention, my lord. She was going to burn it down. She was going to burn down all the Marine, bro. She was like, maybe not like that. She makes threats, a lot of them, that she did not carry out.
Starting point is 01:27:48 But the thing is that no one was there to stop her at that moment. No one was there. That's why John was like, what the fuck? What is she doing? She had no reason to do it. That's the problem. It's not that there was some type of threat. She didn't need to do it at any point.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I think that her destroying King's Landing was extreme. But I think her, like, going crazy has been hinted at the whole time. Because the idea was like there was always, it was always the idea of there was one. No, there was the idea that she's a, yes, there's an idea that she, the mad king, I know what you're saying. But that's been alluded to the whole series. That didn't pop out of nowhere. Her character was supposed to be she's different. That was her brother.
Starting point is 01:28:31 No, the character was that John was different. Because that's the whole idea. The whole time was that John was a Targaryen. Now you're just, I'm not even reaching, bro. This is what's happened. You weren't supposed to nobody's supposed to know that. So you can't even allude to that. Everybody knew that from the beginning, dog.
Starting point is 01:28:49 You tell me, I knew that from season two. How did you know that? I was like, that's kind of funny. No, tell me how you, tell me how you knew that. Because that was speculation from the very beginning of the series, dude. No cap. Speculation. Me and my friend, me and all my homies that watched it.
Starting point is 01:29:05 We were like, he's probably a Targaryen. You're talking about speculation. I'm talking about as the way the story's mapped out. In that world, absolutely nobody knows, not as a person on the outside looking in and consuming media, bro. We're talking about making sense in that fucking world, dude. Bro, I think it was, I think her going crazy was hinted at several times. It was not surprised to us. Her behavior has always been kind of razzed.
Starting point is 01:29:30 From the very jump, it's been radical. She wasn't murderous. Don't get me wrong, but she was kind of radical. That's the whole point, dude. Like, you can't just say, like, oh, somebody had the potential to be murderous. And then, it's like, say, look, if you started murdering people, Sweeney, there's no part of me that would be like, oh, that makes sense. Even though you talk all this shit, I know you're bullshit. But if you actually started killing people, I would be taken back.
Starting point is 01:29:58 like, I can't believe this person actually had the potential to be doing this shit because people that do kill have been killing. They've secretly been doing other things about murdering animals, whatever the case is, doing things that where it leads up to like, oh yeah, this person actually is a murder and I understand. There's no real, look it, hold on, Sweeney. Let me, the final point is, because, you know, we don't need to argue too much about this. Gotcha. George R. Martin had content for, like, years.
Starting point is 01:30:28 years much more that he wanted them to flesh out. The reason this happened was because D&D were tired. They checked out. The reason, and you saying that this makes sense is the antithesis of why it happened. It didn't make sense. This show was supposed to be fleshed out much more. And they just went like this. We're doing this.
Starting point is 01:30:46 And then you're coming in and basically defending their lazy bullshit by saying it makes sense. Okay. Can I explain my point? George R.R.R. Martin, the person that made. this shit would beg to differ Now let me Are you gonna argue? Are you gonna argue with the creator? He I've read an article where he actually agreed with ending
Starting point is 01:31:06 He wasn't really super mad about it. No, that's not what he said before He was like, oh, this happened. You know how people, do you know how people Will just like, what's his name? What's, uh, uh, uh, fuck, Luke Skywalker, Mark Hamill. Yeah. Mark Hamill was shitting all over Star Wars but then for PR purposes was defending it.
Starting point is 01:31:25 That's all it happened. Let me, let me, let me. me explain. Let me explain my point. Just real quick. Now, the fact that DeNaris went crazy and burned out Kings Landing was a reach. I was like, yo, this is kind of wild that she's like kind of doing this. That she destroyed everything and she went so overboard, so fast is my problem. Which I agree with you. That's it. But in the epitome of her becoming crazy, her becoming maddened like many other Targaryans prior to her, wasn't that much of a reach for me. I have a problem that how it was executed. Yes. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Execute. That was all it was problem. I was like, this was not executed well. It was too fast. But why is it not executed well? Because they didn't want to do any more seasons. Yeah, it was too quick. It was too quick to dissent. So in that context, it doesn't make sense because they didn't give enough time.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Chromatically, it does, chronologically, sorry, it does not make sense because they just bullshitted. And so to me, it's like, to me, it's like giving it a pass for bad fucking writing. I'm not giving it a pass per se. I have never said, I don't know anything about the shit. You're quiet. You're quiet for a while. What do you think? Here's what I assume.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I assume that, based on everybody's reading of the situation, that the showrunners got really tired and they wanted to check out and do the Star Wars thing. And they didn't want to keep making Game of Thrones, especially if George R. Martin's not going to finish the damn books. So they were just like, okay, so let us just let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just. end this real quick and move on. And because they wanted to move on, they didn't really care about the quality of the ending of the series, and they wanted to just get shit done really quick, and they accelerated past a lot of key moments
Starting point is 01:33:10 that would have been necessary to make the ending believable. There you go. That's the problem with it. So, basically, yes. So while I, that's my read, as somebody who's never seen the show. But I would say that I feel like Derek is right, because if,
Starting point is 01:33:28 if your character motivations are accelerated to the point where like, yeah, this... I know what both you are saying. You're saying that it's not surprising that this character would have gone mad and done the crazy shit. Which I actually agree. But, Derek, you're saying that it happened too quickly, and by virtue of it happening too quickly, it actually doesn't make sense, which I agree with. I think that's valid. I think just because something is predictable and because something happens to be going in a direction,
Starting point is 01:33:56 doesn't mean you can skip forward into that direction and have it still make sense. I see it in the same line as... I understand. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I can be with it too. I guess I see it in the same line as in The Last of Us part two when Joel was destroyed immediately where it's like we wouldn't have been surprised at all
Starting point is 01:34:16 or if anything happened if it was fleshed out properly. So it was really maddening to me. And I'm sure you were still upset by it, Sweeney. So I think we kind of like... We argued about agreeing in different aspects. We actually do agree, but it was just like it was kind of a bull. The arguing was kind of unnecessary. Like, because ultimately, like, yeah, I don't think anybody would have been surprised if there was enough signs that, like, oh, shit, she's going to snap at any moment instead of it just, instead of just happening.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Like, all the, it should have happened slower. It's all in the execution, I think. The black girl got killed. Her dragon got killed. Her dragon got killed. It's not enough to slaughter A bunch of innocent people Like they won the war
Starting point is 01:35:01 They won that war already It was over It was over And she was just like I'm gonna kill everybody In Kings Landing because And I'm like okay That wasn't a good enough motivation
Starting point is 01:35:09 To do that It's funny And then what they did with John at the end So hold on Hold on I never saw a single episode of Game of Thrones I did the only episode
Starting point is 01:35:18 That I did see Was that last episode Was that episode So I was like And I remember watching This like Some blonde bitch on a dragon burning down
Starting point is 01:35:28 fucking turning this city into burning man and I was just I remember just thinking like the only thought that I had in my mind was like so this one's she's kind of a bitch huh that was like that's my only read on that character at all for me for me it was like the idea of the of the prophet of faith or prophet of truth
Starting point is 01:35:47 talking about how he was in a glass a planet and it was like damn who made him that mad that was all I ever got out of that moment like I remember hearing that him say that I'll burn your planet to the surface There's nothing but glass And I was like, yo, who made him so upset? Who got him to the point where he was going to do that?
Starting point is 01:36:03 We got more questions And I don't want to stay on Game of Thrones. I just want to say, I don't know anything about it. I just want to say one last thing. It really upset me that as the seasons progressed, we didn't see De Nairis is naked nearly as much.
Starting point is 01:36:16 That really upset me. All right, let's go. I was okay with that. I started naked enough, you know? I'm right with this. Yeah, but see, you're not a pervert. Is there anybody? Honestly.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Is there anybody in that show who at any point says, stop, you're violating the law? I feel like they probably do. Brienne, I think, maybe. Gran of Torf? That would be really sad if they didn't sleep in. I feel like one of the random guards said it. Ed Shearing was in that episode,
Starting point is 01:36:47 and one of the seasons. And I was like, what the fuck are you doing here? Oh, yeah. Ed Shearing? Yeah, I was actually hoping they were going to decapitate him when he was seen. I was hoping he would have died, bro. I was hoping someone more.
Starting point is 01:36:55 would have cut. I was hoping someone would have chopped him in the neck and then they would have kicked his head off with the fucking axe. Kick the axe and fucking junked his head off. Let's move on. Let's not talk about, let's not talk about beheading at Shearin. I'm a little bit of it. His heads
Starting point is 01:37:16 rolling down a hill and is just singing, I am not on my body. So stupid. That shit was a funny flag. All right. Boopsy. Boopsy Joe wrote in That's kind of like a gender neutral I have no idea
Starting point is 01:37:31 Yeah He or she wrote in Says hello Waste of Space How does it personally feel to be called Something IRL Something that you're not Ie. Kami, far right, far left
Starting point is 01:37:42 furry Furry I love how that's in there That's in there with communists Mind boggling, anger inducing, frustrating I'm not so I don't care
Starting point is 01:37:53 It's more inconvenient to me because then I feel like I have to then I have like if I'm in a social situation I feel like I have to I I'm walking into a situation where people have assumptions but aside from that it's like I don't know it doesn't make me upset
Starting point is 01:38:08 I just don't care bro I can't give a fuck about people calling me things I'm not it's like oh whatever well you should I was actually I was talking to a lot of Pierce like I was talking to Alana Pierce a while ago and she said something that I thought was kind of pointing where it's like you just got
Starting point is 01:38:24 let people be wrong about you. You know? Yeah. Very true. You know, you just, there's so many different versions of me that exist in people's heads that are just as real to them as like, I am to me, really. And there's no way that you're going to be able to like correct every single misconception. And like, that would just drive you insane. So you just sort of have to be like, yeah, you know, people are, people can be wrong about you and that's fine.
Starting point is 01:38:50 and if you're going to like try and set the record straight, you've got to really pick your battles as far as like, you know, if there's something like crazy, like, illegal about what someone's saying, then yeah, by all means, if they're like literally slandering you or like accusing you of false actions that you haven't done, I would say that, yeah, totally, by all means, correct the record,
Starting point is 01:39:10 put them in their place. But if someone's just going to be like, this person's right wing, this person's like, SJW, this person's commie, this person's whatever, I just like, I just can't even begin to give it the time of day. because I just know that I would go insane trying to rectify every single fake version of me in like thousands of people's heads. Well, why you shouldn't do that is because those people, it's just proof that they don't watch your content. They don't know anything about you.
Starting point is 01:39:39 And so they're not your demographic. You know, your demographic knows who you are. And that reminds me of Joe Rogan where a lot of his podcast, because, he got interested, you can tell he got interested in our community for a while. That's what he started messaging a lot of us. And when everybody started accusing him, people that don't watch
Starting point is 01:40:01 his podcast, when they started accusing him of being right, super ultra white right wing and all this stuff. Like Joe's just some fucking baldheaded UFC guy or MMA commentator that has interesting conversations. And when you actually hear about his beliefs, he's like, he's pretty left. I would call him
Starting point is 01:40:18 center left. There's some things that aren't completely left, but most of his normal shit. But the thing is, because of that, he had to, he, I can't even count how many times he would mention, oh, I'm this, I'm this, like, I swear I'm this, like he can constantly defending himself instead of not giving a fuck because your audience that listens to you, they know who you are. And, and so he started always being like, well, this and, and well, that. And, and I believe in this.
Starting point is 01:40:45 It was kind of like, I would hear Dave Rubin do the same thing, but now I don't, I don't fucking believe him for a second where he'd be like well how could I be right wing when I'm gay and I'm this and on that and I'm like well that is that shit doesn't like you're literally identity politics yeah right and I was like whatever dude you fucking that guy he uh we we started I I made fun of him and up to the point where he unfollowed me and I was just like that's you fucking bully he followed me immediately when I the second I the second I was like hey chill out on Twitter dude and that was in that was a A baby.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I was like, you probably fucking talked about all these people whining and shit. Like, oh, these snowflakes in immediately. And I actually, I had a conversation with Stephen Crowder one time, like, three years ago or something. He's someone, too, that I've like, I was like, oh, this guy's, this guy sucks, you know. But at the time, I didn't know him that well in 2017. And then when I started seeing, like, the type of shit that he was saying all the time, and it just, I'm like, what's this guy's fucking angle? But anyway, recently he said something really stupid. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Something about like any, any crime you commit, any, what is it, emphasis on any with it being in caps. Like, you're like non-peaceful if you commit any crime. And I just replied with like, oh, this is going to be an excellent addition to my Twitter trash series. And he unfollowed me because he used to follow me. I was just like, I think, I think he follows me still, even though I did, I responded to that. I responded to that exact tweet. I said something like, uh,
Starting point is 01:42:22 yeah, all those violent jaywalkers are really giving us a hard time or like something like that. Where it's like, can you imagine me? Can you imagine someone with jaywalking? They're just getting fucking gunned down by like a fucking helicopter turret. No, somebody comes up to you say,
Starting point is 01:42:35 get on the fucking floor and you're like, what? And he shoots you. He shoots you dead and he died for jaywalking. And then the people on the bothagetka across the street. And then there are people in, on fucking like, people on,
Starting point is 01:42:47 People on Fox News talking about how dangerous you were because you jaywalked and while your death there was just. That'd be hilarious. If a family of four plus a baby was driving in an SUV and hit that man, do you know how high the casualties would have been that night? Dude, it's so funny. I support the officer. I fucking love the dog. No, it's fucking. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I love Fox News because they just say shit. that's just like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? Like, what is it? How insensitive can you be? Foxx has this old hat, man. Like, some of my earliest videos in like 2008 and 2009, the earliest commentary videos that I made, um,
Starting point is 01:43:33 you know, Leafy, the fucking godfather of commentary started in fucking 2016. Jesus fucking Christ. But yeah, like these commentary videos that I made in like 2008 were like almost, like,
Starting point is 01:43:46 I focused almost exclusively on Fox News because there was so much coming out of Fox News that was just so hysterical. Do you remember, do you remember, Sweeney, that video? This wasn't Fox News exactly. This was like a Fox News subsidiary. So it wasn't like the Republican thing. It was just like Channel 5 News where like the, they were making the case that the Nintendo DS was a tool for pedophiles. Yeah, dude. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:44:12 We were fucking clown the fuck out of that. That was so ridiculous. Because their argument was that pedophiles driving could look over into people's cars, see children on their Nintendo DSs, and then pictocat them while they were driving. Oh, sick. Yeah, you know. Oh, that's hot. The most hyper-specific scenario possible. That's some dog, I was going to say something fucked up.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Never mind. There's so many. They have, Fox is so classic. Like, I'm really nostalgic for Fox News because I really miss. when they were the craziest that we had. Yeah. Because it was just so much fun because it was all these out-of-touch old, like, crusty people talking about shit that they very clearly didn't understand.
Starting point is 01:44:55 One of my favorite things was, like, when the, when the Mass Effect scandal happened, when Fox News did this whole story. Oh, was that about fucking Liara and her ass? Yeah, that was about the sex scenes that happened in Mass Effect. I remember the headline like it was yesterday. It was Sexbox. And it was just... this whole thing about all these old people talking about like, you know, there's full nudity
Starting point is 01:45:20 in the game and players can interact sexually with fully naked ladies. And then Jeff Keely is on there defending and he's like, and as somebody was like, I can't remember who it was. Cooper Lawrence, I think her name was. I somehow remember this person's name. But she was like, and keep in mind, it's a man in this game deciding what kind of sexual exploits he wants with as many women he wants. And Jeff Keely was like, actually, you can't. can play as a woman or a man in Mass Effect. Cooper, have you ever played Mass Effect? And she goes, no. And she's talking about the game on the news as somebody who's like informed. And it's, it was so, that was peak parody. Like when everything on the news was just a joke. I missed that.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I totally miss that. Yeah. Yeah, now it's, now everything is still a joke, but it's like dire. And it has like, everything has dire consequences or like nefarious under underlying, uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, groups or goals attached to it. But back then it was just
Starting point is 01:46:21 Republicans being fucking stupid. Yeah. So fucking hilarious. It's scary. It's dangerous to me. Sorry to continue on the subject. But it's so dangerous to me, the lack of,
Starting point is 01:46:32 of, like, just study that goes into the people who talk about the news. It's insane. Like, these are people who are supposed to be giving the, the mass information that like,
Starting point is 01:46:44 helps them process their days and they're just giving them fucking bumble-fuck-nothing. It blows my fucking mind. It's because they're funded by very big money interests. That wants you to divert the tender from them to other shit. That's stupid, which is fucking wild. You're never going to see mainstream news say anything really negative about people who are like making a ton of money off of like really underhanded tactics or really any of that
Starting point is 01:47:11 shit. It's always going to be just like standard like, oh, everything is fine. Like I looked at freaking. I looked up one time how many people go missing at like Disney. And it's like a stifling amount. Like way more than we've ever heard about. And you never hear about that shit on ABC News as they fucking own them. That's pretty wild.
Starting point is 01:47:27 You'll never hear that shit. Well, let's move on. Wild. Wiley. We got a lot of questions actually to get through. And a very small amount of time to get through them. We have, uh, let's see. Stop.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Mm-mm. Oh, this is something for the shoe on head podcast. I'll save this for, for that one. just cut this part out Christian Palma wrote in and he says So here it goes, you juicy sluts What is the best gift
Starting point is 01:48:00 You have ever been given Well the gift of life by my mother But other than yes Shut the fuck up That's fucking important Fuck you guys I love my mom Security Get this bummed fuck out of here
Starting point is 01:48:15 Who's fucking security You fucking a dog or some shit Security arrest this man, kill him, take his jacket Don't give him his jacket I would say my girlfriend got me a customizable Spider-Man D&D dice That was a crazy if diver because no one else in a planet has them But me so it's pretty fucking dope
Starting point is 01:48:30 She got me custom Spider-Man D&D dice That no one else on a planet has but me So it's pretty crazy How do you know? Because she made them for me She created them Huh She like had them made for me particularly
Starting point is 01:48:45 I see what you're saying She ordered them She didn't craft them I thought she forged them in the fires of Mordor. That'd be fucking dope if she did, though. That'd be extra bounty points. I don't really know what the best gift I've ever gotten was. My mind immediately goes to something that's definitely not the best gift that ever gotten,
Starting point is 01:49:03 but it's the one that comes to mind. But it's like I got, I went into surgery in like 2004, 2005 for like some lymph node biopsy. And I remember like it was such a fucking terrifying, grueling experience because I woke up in the middle of surgery. I slapped you back to sleep. No, I fucking passed out from the sheer shock of feeling a breeze inside my body. But I passed out and I woke up out of the hospital bed and then my parents took me to either like a circuit city or like a software, etc.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Because we didn't have GameStop back then. Electronic boutique? Yeah, like some games place. and I got a PSP after surgery because they felt so bad that I had to go through that shit Nice And it was pretty sick
Starting point is 01:49:54 I love the PSP still It's not bad Fucking cool My mom keeps one in her bathroom What? Yeah Your mom keeps a PSP in her bathroom Yes she does
Starting point is 01:50:05 And she almost beat fucking She was playing What was it I can't remember if it was ghost of spotter Or Changes of Olympus And she got to the final boss And it was whichever one you have to fight Persephone
Starting point is 01:50:17 and I was like you fucking almost beat the game I was really surprised I was really fucking impressed that is I can't even fathom that because my parents are so not video game people at all
Starting point is 01:50:31 that that sounds like such an alien concept the thought of like oh hey mom how far are you in fucking God of war Chains of Olympus my grandmother was pretty good at Mrs. Pac-Man and shit like that like in Pong but she wasn't like she could understand if I gave her a game like that
Starting point is 01:50:45 she's like, I just don't have time to live someone else's life, Kingston. I can't get that away from me. My mom, my parents could probably play Tetris and like Pac-Man and stuff. Yeah. That's probably, that's as high as it'll, that's as high as it would go. I tried, I remember like, I was such an idiot because I was trying to get my parents into it. And the first thing I decided, the first thing that I decided to show my mom was like, hey, I'll show her portal.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Well, I was, this is. this is when it first came out. I was young, all right? Like, I was like, in my view, I was like, oh, portal, you can't die. There's no enemies. There's no, you don't have to switch your weapons. There's no grenades or anything.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Conceptually is an easy game. Conceptually. In base concept, it's like this game is not that confusing. But then you think about it. And you're like, what? I mean, actually, conceptually, it's super fucking confusing. For somebody who doesn't, for somebody who doesn't play video games and isn't familiar with like how a camera works in a third person space like if you play 2D games you know
Starting point is 01:51:51 that's one thing but like going from pacman to fucking portal so it's different or really any or really any game that has like a free camera in first person it's like a huge leap because you don't even register like what you are or what you're looking at yeah uh and just the concept of like opening holes in the sky and using momentum and i was like oh yeah yeah that's fucking wild Probably, well, I was thinking, like, oh, you can't die, there's no combat. This is, like, the best FPS to show somebody, but I was like, I shouldn't,
Starting point is 01:52:19 you shouldn't start somebody with an FPS. Yeah, it's got to be third person or something. It's got to be, you see the character. We were talking about this. I can't remember when, but, like, yeah. Mario Sunshine, man. Mario's Sunshine, man. Those where you got to start people.
Starting point is 01:52:34 That's where you got to bring in them. You got to start with 2D, and then you go into 2.5D, just so you get some idea of, like, There's 2.5D again? What are those? What are those games? 2.5D is like a little big planet where like, uh, where it's like, uh,
Starting point is 01:52:47 where it's like a camp in and out of the, what you call it, the depth of the game. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Or even something like fusion frenzy or something like that where it's like just a bunch of little games that are, that kind of like on their own. Yeah. I feel you. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I don't know. Oh, wait. The question was, uh, gifts. Yeah. Right. Uh, the only thing that comes to mind is, and it, it's a simple gift, but, but, it's a simple gift, but it meant a lot to me. My ex-girlfriend in 2014.
Starting point is 01:53:14 A blowjob? Yeah. Maybe some of the sloppiest throat I ever. Some of the weirdest pussy I ever got in my life, man. Talk about fucking a fountain. I mean, it was just gushing. All right, let's go on. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I was just going to say, she got me seasons one through 12 of the Simpsons. And that shit was like, because I'm like, I'm a, the only groups that I follow on like Facebook or Instagram or anything like that is shit posting. and so it's like it's always sunny shit posting Simpson's shit posting
Starting point is 01:53:43 I used to do Simpsons Sunday posting on Instagram that's my jam So when I got all those because I didn't own the seasons That was like the dopest gift that I can receive Because it was all these like customizable boxes and shit It was really dope shit man I love Simpsons so That was dope but um
Starting point is 01:53:58 Yeah I just for the record She was also really dumb I just want to put that out there So I don't want to give her too much credit Oh my God Holy shit All right
Starting point is 01:54:08 Pergerian incest goblin wrote in he says hello three horsemen of the quarantine laziness horniness and sheer boredom yeah I wonder which one I am I guess I'm laziness I guess I'm all of these
Starting point is 01:54:24 I'm not as I just got back seeing as I just got back from a small trip to San Fran share your favorite road trip story specifically some highlights from the drive of New York City to Los Angeles I bet some sketchy shit happened I fucking can't I can't do this
Starting point is 01:54:42 I can't reminisce about that trip It was fucking So grueling And I'm not even really I remember a lot of it But like it's to the point where it was just such a fucking harrowing experience That I question as to whether or not A lot of that stuff actually happened
Starting point is 01:54:57 Without Jalen Being around to corroborate A lot of this shit I wouldn't really believe it There was a point where we were driving And I think I think Kansas Where it got so foggy that you couldn't see like a foot ahead of you
Starting point is 01:55:10 and, you know, we were just driving in this fog and I remember just constantly being like, I'm stressed out, I can't see the road, I'm gonna stop.
Starting point is 01:55:19 And I just, I never did it because I was like worried about like whether or not a car was behind me because you couldn't see behind you either because it was so fucking foggy.
Starting point is 01:55:26 And the second we got out of the fog, two seconds later, a semi-truck came out from behind me from the fog. It was like right, right fucking behind me. I didn't see it. If I stopped, if I stopped on that road,
Starting point is 01:55:42 I would have been fucking dead or fucked up. And that freaks me out still to this day. That's so fucking scary. That's cool, man. It's such a terrifying. That's pretty cool. Because I was definitely close to just pumping the brakes being like,
Starting point is 01:55:55 I can't drive in this. Like several times. You would have fucking been an accordion. That would have been crazy. You would have been a fucking, you would have been a pancake. You would have been a 2D fucking render. Those are the things. There was a trucker. There was a trucker that tried to ram us off the road.
Starting point is 01:56:11 There was a time where we, like, stopped off in Arizona, and then I went to the bathroom, and then I went back and Jalen had locked me out of the car. My phone was locked in the car in the fucking Arizona heat. He was nowhere to be seen. He left me alone for fucking 30 minutes because he went across the street to get lotion. Hey, when you got a jacket, man, it's an emergency. Why is it all jacking? We bathed in a Walmart bathroom in Illinois. I've had those. I've had bird bass, man, for sure.
Starting point is 01:56:41 It's just fucking insane. What about you? What about you, Derek? I mean, if we're talking about something, when we're talking about something fun, I'm trying to think of that as well because, yeah, road trips are particularly trash, but it's also because I don't typically do it with, like, loved ones, like somebody that I just love being. I haven't road-tripped with, like, my closest friends. We've gone to certain places that's kind of far, but I'm talking about, like, three hours out of the way. I don't really think that counts. But anything like that, it's been with family members,
Starting point is 01:57:20 and I was young and I hated the experience. We're driving all across the country to go to Florida, which is, Florida in the summer is, I think it's probably a fate worse than death. So, I don't. Florida's the worst place always all around a year. It's fucking terrible. Same. Particularly in the fucking, because,
Starting point is 01:57:36 Not only is it like 100% humidity or whatever the fuck it is, some wild shit, where like I would throw a paper airplane in the air and then it would just be soggy by the time it landed. And then there would be like almost hurricane weather all the time. And I'm like, why is, why are we going here for the summer? We live in Cali. Like this is the place to be. This is where people across the world come. But we're going to Florida. So anyway, there was only like maybe a few moments when I went on this U.S. tour in 2009.
Starting point is 01:58:05 there was like moments there that were kind of cool and just nothing like too road tripping just is just kind of I don't know I never really enjoyed it but maybe in the future
Starting point is 01:58:17 I'll have like some dope-ass experiences because I'll go with the right people you know what I mean? Yeah yeah even the people I went with in the band like they're yeah we're homies but they're not people that I want to spend
Starting point is 01:58:29 three months with on the fucking road you know what I mean they weren't like they weren't like the oh you guys are like you guys are my closest friend and we can really, we're going to be on the same level. There was just a bunch of problems. A lot of arguments to the two members fucking,
Starting point is 01:58:45 one of them got swine flu and went home early. Oh my God. Another one got kicked out. He quit the band when we're in Chicago. And at a certain point, so let's just say this, the lead guitarist and the rhythm guitarists were beefing so much. One of them quit when we're in Chicago. He flew home.
Starting point is 01:59:04 and then the other guitarist got swineful and he left so for a while we didn't have a guitarist and then we called the dude the dude justin the guy that left first like dude uh homeboys out of the band like please come back we need you on the way to the airport in lex he got into a fucking car pile up and he had like 40 stitches on his head so then he was a oh my god it was so crazy it was such a fucked up there was so many i'll just say this though even though it was one of worst times of my life because touring without like a bus or like room is such a horrible experience but I wouldn't trade it because it is wild to drive across the country meet all these weird ass random people and without that I wouldn't have discovered I think I was in
Starting point is 01:59:54 Minnesota or something I discovered YouTube poops because I wasn't really on that side of YouTube yet and we got to we got to sleep at this person's apartment and he was like, yo, you got to check this out. And then he like pulled out some, I think it might have been King of the Hill or something. And I never looked back. I was like, this is, I can't believe I didn't know about this shit before. This is the best shit ever. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:00:16 That's so cool. That's ridiculous. I don't think I've ever had any, like, moments where, like, on road trips. I went to me and my grandmother that went across the country when I graduated high school. We went to, like, the Midwest. It was me and my grandmother and my cousin. And I think my aunt, we went to Chicago. My aunt's a fucking bitch, so she was terrible to go.
Starting point is 02:00:32 My grandmother's me had a blast. because somebody and my grandmother did was just like make jokes at the fact that like everybody else is upset and it was fucking hilarious and he had a bunch of like really good food so I actually had a great time but I went with my family that's why so that's probably well good for you I had a really wholesome family moment I probably had three in my whole life though I'll tell you what's not a wholesome family moment the thing that I just remembered reading this next and final question what is it Emperor Palpatine wrote in he says what is the meanest thing you've done or said to someone accidentally or on purpose to hurt them and this i didn't necessarily so this you remember kingston right the the the jalen is dead oh my god that was technically we were all a part of that so that's definitely up there for me we were all a part of that so this is a very specific you guys killed your homie no no no so this is a this is a really fucked story but shouldn't tell all of it we got to pieces of it though we will mask people's names So basically our ex-roomade, you've seen him in videos,
Starting point is 02:01:39 was over at a friend of ours house. Let's call her Ashley or something. And Ashley and Jalen were hanging out. And then, you know, they were having a fun time. They were drinking. They were just paling around. And then some other guy will call him Bojangles. Yeah, Bo.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Gets to that house. and wants to hook up with Ashley. So Ashley kicks Jalen out and basically makes him drive home while intoxicated. Oh, my God. And so as a joke, I didn't know people were going to run with it, but as a joke, I suggested, hey, wouldn't it be funny if we all pretended like we haven't heard from you?
Starting point is 02:02:31 and for some reason everybody was like yeah totally and they went on board with it and they were just like yeah no everybody she talked everybody she reached out to was like yeah no i haven't haven't seen him haven't heard from him and for like two straight days it just got way out of hand like bad like like jalen's family was calling and it was like he got really it was really fucking bad it got really It got really bad. It got really bad. And then like, we gave it up really, like, we gave it up two days later. We were like, hey, this isn't real.
Starting point is 02:03:09 And then you said something. Let me tell my part. Let me tell my part. So after that part, okay. So after that all happened, I was like, this is a joke. You know, everything went by and we were all at the house. We were all drinking, having fun. And we made it.
Starting point is 02:03:23 And I said a joke. And I was like, well, I mean, at least I didn't send Jill in to die, you know. And she started crying. And what I said is, why are you crying? you already did it. What's the point of being upset about it? It happened. And everybody was like,
Starting point is 02:03:35 that's not okay. And I was like, what the fuck is not okay about that? I was really like seriously not understanding that I was hurting your feelings. And I still don't really care. Honestly, it happened,
Starting point is 02:03:43 you know, like I don't give a fuck. Like, that's some shit. Like, if I did some fuck shit like that and you guys told me that, I'd have to laugh about it
Starting point is 02:03:50 because I'd be like, fuck, I actually did that. Isn't that wild. But it turns out. It was definitely too soon. Turns out everyone is not as strong as I am. Deccan does not care about bad things happening.
Starting point is 02:04:01 So she cried and I got kicked out the room. But I suggested that as like a joke. But you suggested it though. You were the catalyst. It was my fault. But I didn't, I didn't think people would run with it. And I wasn't running with it in fairness. Like I was immediately like, I was just like, hey guys, this is kind of, you know.
Starting point is 02:04:19 It was a funny suggestion because the thought of doing it would be so absurd and evil. In fiction, it was funny. That was the joke. So you guys, like I said in the beginning, you guys killed your homie. That's exactly. I didn't do shit. I wasn't a part of it. I'll do was make a joke afterwards and everybody got butter.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Yeah. I mean, look, that actually, that happened to me, but in a way that I guess people should have known that it was a joke from what I've seen. I didn't see the post, but in 2012, I remember because I posted about it on Facebook to say that I'm not fucking dead. Oh, yeah. Yeah, did I mention that? Yeah, just like my, yeah. Okay, if I don't remember if I said on the podcast, or not, but just long story short, I spent the night at my girlfriend's house at the time,
Starting point is 02:05:06 and I just, you know, I don't, I didn't, I barely check my phone now. So, like, I had no reason to check it before back then where I was, I had, you know, I wasn't on social media for a living. And I guess my homies are all hanging out. And they're like, oh, let's take a picture and say like, rest in peace, Derek. And I guess, I didn't see the photo, but I guess it was supposed to be obviously fake, like my friend Ed looked so distraught that like nobody would take a picture like this. I guess that's what it was supposed to be a joke, an obvious joke, but no one got it.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Because when I checked my phone in the next morning, I just had a myriad of messages saying, rest in peace, I'm tagged in it. People messaging me saying like, oh my God, is this real? I can't believe it's real. Oh, my God. Holy fuck. That's so fucking funny. That's so fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 02:05:59 It's retroactively, it's hilarious. I was fucking mad because not because I don't really, I didn't really care of my friends. I thought I was dead because I'm like, yeah, I'm not dead. Shut the fuck up. But like, families on Facebook. I was like, I don't want, what if one of them fucking died from proxy, you know, like someone's so distraught, like, like, my step sisters, my step sisters telephoning it to my,
Starting point is 02:06:23 to their mom, and then it gets back to my mom. And then my mom fucking croaks because she thinks I'm dead. Like, that would have fucking disheartedly. destroyed me. So that was the only thing I got mad about. But that's, but that's interesting. You've lived something that I feel like most people, uh, I think most people are curious as to how people would react when, when you find out that they're dead. You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's, that's like, I would almost be like, oh, this is, you know, I would definitely try to rectify it, but I would be like, I'm glad, I'm glad this happened at least. Because I
Starting point is 02:06:52 know now. Imagine, just get good rid of its messages. All I care about when I die is that I'd never come back. That's the only thing I want to be fucking set in stone. There is no way I can come back. Yeah, don't worry about that. I know it's a pretty good thing. I'm really happy about it. But other than that, I don't give a fuck what happens. I don't care what you do my body. I don't care if you fucking, fucking, who comes. I don't care if nobody shows. I don't care if I get left in the street. I don't get fucking people fucking take my organs. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:07:16 I don't care. I'm dead. I don't give a shit. Yeah, you can wear me honestly. You could, you could literally use my dead body as a fleshlight. I wouldn't give a fuck. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm out the fucking story. That's it. My chapter's over.
Starting point is 02:07:33 There's two things that I want, and I hope that my loved ones will carry it out, but I don't think they will. Because one of them I want to be stuffed. I want you to take me to a taxidermist and stuff me, but stuff me with a boner. Like, make sure you stuff that too. And then just leave me in somebody's closet. I want to be in somebody's closet. So I don't know who's going to take me. There's going to be a fucking keeper.
Starting point is 02:07:58 me. It's going to be a fucking peeper in a clock. Could you imagine fucking someone? Fucking your boy. Like, I invite my girlfriend over and I have to ask him to her. And it's like, hey,
Starting point is 02:08:05 what's in your closet? Like, oh, it's just Derek's dead, dead taxidermied fucking body. And like, can we fuck with him in here? It's like,
Starting point is 02:08:13 he's dead. He's not looking. But his eyes are wide open and he's smiling and shit at me. Yo, fucking listeners, message me if you would accept my taxidermied body. Because I want that to happen. I know a lot of people,
Starting point is 02:08:27 loved ones will rail against that but that's number one I want that number two uh I just want to be strapped to like a SpaceX rocket or something and fired in the direction of like andromeda galaxy and maybe there's some alien niggas over there that know how to like reanimate and I want to see some crazy shit over there like they'll be like oh we have the technology to to revive dead cells like fucking mass effect two or something uh so just fire me in the direction of indromeda and maybe I'll get there in like a million years. years and then and then like fucking I'll be frozen and they reanimate me all of a sudden I'm chilling with these fucking conceptually I can't even think of what aliens would look
Starting point is 02:09:07 like over there but I'll be chilling with them and they're just like hello what if what if you got there what if you got there and they all looked exactly like you I got to tell you I'd be fucking angry I'd be disappointed how boring would that be I'd fucking me just to say I did no I don't even mean like you're not your misunderstanding exactly like you they're wearing the same clothes they have the exact like everything about
Starting point is 02:09:34 you know what's crazy what if what if their forms are so fucking far from what we can understand that all we can make out is that they look like us even though they definitely don't we can just see them as looking like it's like quasi fucking quasi matter shit or we can't even that's entirely
Starting point is 02:09:50 possible if there if other life forms aren't like a carbon-based, you would have no idea what they would actually evolve into if they were based off of some other type of material or some other type of chemicals. Most of them, they would look, like, how do I explain it? If it wasn't,
Starting point is 02:10:06 because we could understand what silicon-based things look like, they'd look kind of like us that they'd have, like, they'd be a little more translucent and they'd be stronger. That's it. But, like, when it comes to, like, if it's made of like a straight-up different way of matter, it'd be, it'd look wild. Or we'd be like, I don't know what the
Starting point is 02:10:22 fuck we're looking at. Like, that's, That looks like a fucking... That looks like a flashlight. What do dark matter niggas? Like, what do dark matter aliens look like? You know what I mean? You can't see them probably. I can't.
Starting point is 02:10:32 We can't even see them. That's our show. I can't. It's getting too heady. It's too much. It's too much for me to handle right now. Okay, okay. If you liked what you heard today,
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