The Snark Tank - #413: God of War Laufey Hysteria

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome back to another snark tank podcast. More remote today because I don't know what's going on. I got a feeling in the back of my throat. It's like that thing that's like, oh, I think I might be sick. But then the next day I wasn't. And then the next day I wasn't. And then the next day I wasn't. But I still have that feeling in the back part of those.
Starting point is 00:00:37 So I don't know what's going on. So I'm just being safe. the so it's we're back me uh me chris tim derrick sims simsweeney hello it's me kingston it's me kingston oh oh that's a really good that's actually that was actually like shocking yeah really good um wow that was like i felt like i was actually looking at kakeson it feels like kinks is actually here with us derrick you know you should do you should quit everything you're doing right now and go on doing kinks and prejudice for the rest of your life and really refuse to turn back and decide that would make you money.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I mean, refuse to abandon your dream. What if I made millions on cameo doing that make me so fucking mad? Because I'm like, why don't they just ask me to be me? What's crazy? Is that like, they don't know who you are at all.
Starting point is 00:01:28 That's what makes it the world. That's what hurts the most, Chris. That's the most, that's the dagger to my heart. God, man. Like,
Starting point is 00:01:36 who is this dude? I don't fucking know. He's so funny, though. looking to be zadie i should want to say happy birthday to you josh yeah it's me kingston i love you see you this i love this guy you see this guy doing kasing impressions on cameo dude you see this guy kingston's so swell and then if somebody immediately bust a nut on my leg and shoves me to the floor i'm like what the fuck he nutted on my leg whoa didn't have to escalate this
Starting point is 00:02:04 far welcome welcome to start tank podcast remember you can go to patreon dot com slash start tank go over there. We have various tiers with various levels of, what do you, everything going okay over there, Gary? I was looking behind you. I just, I know that probably did look alarming. No, I was just seeing if my fan was angled at me. It's, it's a little bit off. So, so my, my PC is actually getting most of the, uh, the air and I'm a little upset about that. So call me Cadillac the way I escalate the situation. Okay, well, this is immediately falling apart. I want it. Yeah. I almost got by then.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah, do it, though. Whatever you want to do, do it. Let's just go. Let's just dive right into the big thing. And I know we're all eager to talk about. And I know people who listen to the show know that we're eager to talk about it. Because while I was streaming the state of play over on the sacred streaming thing, sacred symbol streaming channel, people were like, I can't wait for this start.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Because I was telling them, like, the texts that you were said in me. No. And when I asked you about it, and it's just like, dude, it's, I'm excited to get into it. But there was a state of play. It was positioned as kind of a big one because it's an E3. It's, you know, it's early June. This is like E3 times. Summer Games Fest is later this week.
Starting point is 00:03:26 There's an Xbox showcase on Sunday, I think, which is weird. But it's positioned as kind of an E. This is, this is whether they wanted it to be or not. positioned as kind of an E3 thing. And I think even looking at the way that they showcased everything, I think they thought it was too. So they had a bunch of stuff, some stuff I cared about some stuff I didn't. They showed Wolverine, which looks fine.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Looks good. I don't know how I feel like, really. I just don't need to see any more of it because it's like, from the first time they showed it, I'm like, okay, I know exactly what this is going to be. And I will play it. Yeah. And then when they showed more, I'm like, you just showed more of what I, what, what we knew it was. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:12 A violent Wolverine game. Yeah. It's, it's how to have to show. They got a showcase shit, you know. Sure. They're like, oh, they're like, oh, show this. And they're like, well, they already know there. And then like, yeah, but you know.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh, I will say, Gene Gray kind of, uh, threw me off for a second. Because I guess I was playing. I was, I was, I was gaming while I was watching it. And then when I first looked, I was like, the fuck Scarlet Witch is in the game. Because I was like kind of opinion. I was like, well, this fucking Gene Gray. It just, it was a, it kind of threw me the fuck off. Well, seeing Jean.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah, and she just, she didn't look nearly as cool as I thought she would. That's all. She looked, she looked similar to MJ to me. And I'm just like, this is how they make characters. Yeah, I was like, oh, they just like, because I, because we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're used to the versions of comic book characters being hypersexualized, the awesome looking looking. Or just looking cool, like having some type of drip. They don't know. And no, no, they don't have to be.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'm not saying they have to be, but I'm saying the way characters look when we're used to seeing them in their regular mediums, they look like the more often than not the coolest artistic versions of themselves. Yeah. And in these mediums, they're just not always going to be. And that's like fine. Like I'm not bothered by it. But I'm just like, oh, this is going to look not exactly. It's underwhelming, I would just say. That's why I was kind of like, I thought, like, oh, because of the way the powers and it was kind of purpleish or whatever were.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I'm not used to Gene Gray having that. So that's why I was a little, I thought maybe even Silo. It just, I thought Sylock when I first saw the purple, I was like, oh, Silo in this? Cool. And then I saw her in a jacket. And I was like, that better not be fucking Silo. You see literally. No, well, you just, you see literally.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah. Well, no, I, brother, like, I'm going to, I don't even care if this sounds like an Asman gold level take. This is hyper fantasy shit. I don't even need you to be hypersexualized. I just need you to not be like, it's boring. Like, like Insomniac's art design for the Marvel universe is fucking boring.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yes. Like it's, it's arguably blander than the MCU somehow. And I just don't, I don't understand, huh? I'm the MCU art design from, from an art design standpoint is like,
Starting point is 00:06:25 I mean, Iron Man is dope. Like, that's a level up from the common. I think it's regular. I think it's regular. It's just like, what is it's regular if not boring, Kingston?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Like what? Like, how do I explain it? Like, there's, like, Zach Snyder's version of Superman is boring because they make him so dark and lame, you know? Right. That's boring. The MCU is just like normal. It's like, this is how these characters look, you know? I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Like the Batman design is boring because it's just Batman wider. That's it, you know. I mean, it's more dark night returns. I wouldn't call it boring. It's just different. Okay. Yes. In particular him.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I agree. But opposed to like Spider-Man, I wouldn't say Spider-Man's boring. I wouldn't say any of them wrong. They're not as like ramp up as the comic versions. Well, so on, let me say this. Spider-Man can't be boring because that costume, even in the 2000s when we were having like this whole thing was like, you can't have, you can't put Hugh Jackman in the yellow X-Men suit, right?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. Even back in those days, and it's like, let's put them all in black leather. The Spider-Man costume is insane. The Spider-Man costume has to be red and blue. It has to be bright. It has to be, it's inherently loud. So Spider-Man can't be, Spider-Man, I don't even know how you could make that character boring unless you just have him running around in jeans, do it like the whole time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:44 I think even in jeans, he's not boring. But I think, but I think that's because of Spider-Man being Spider-Man. I think Ramey's costume, like, the colors are boring, but I think the design of all the webs and the texture is cool, too. So I think it's like a, it's a mixed thing because, like, for me, I think Super Bowl should be bright. But it's the colors. That's the thing. There are people in the MCU that's like, look at Hawkeye in the MCU. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah, he's, he's like barely anything. Hold on. Hold on. Hawkeye and the MCU is everybody in Insomniac games somehow. Like I just don't know. I don't know. And I don't understand it because at least in live action, I can understand like there's, okay, there's like limitations.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Sure. But like you have, you have complete control over this. Like you can make anything look like anything. I don't understand what this is. And seeing, seeing Gene Gray just look like. some normal fucking 40 year old mom was kind of like yeah i don't know what this is this is i don't know it's boring like i'm but this is i don't know insomniac doesn't know how to i i'm i'm convinced insomnia doesn't know what people look like and then when he rescued fucking
Starting point is 00:08:47 franklin out of that fucking did you see the wolverine trailer where he rescued franklin out of the fucking that was that was that was new franklin the fucking turtle dude that's a he's a really important mutant he's cute i love him he's been he's been a around he's been he's been in a lot of uh he's he's he's he's hell he's important actually but i but still i know what you mean that's frankly everybody is franklin anyway yeah but like wolverine it looks it looks it looks fine i'm sure i'll enjoy it uh i didn't need to see more of it it it looks like it is what it is like like we're already got like if you're going to play those games you're not going to play those games and not going to play those games they are just are what they are you know at that moment i think it'll
Starting point is 00:09:26 be fun it's like it's it's going to be fun like there's it may not be great but it's going to be fun And that's kind of what I'm looking for right now. I want to just have some fun, dude. On a certain level, though, like, I do feel bad for, I don't know. Because, like, if I was, you know what I think about a lot? I think about, oh, my God, what's his face? Ah, Ian, Malcolm from Firefly Buck for Modius C. And Nathan Philean.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. Nathan Philean, he was quite a bit older in, like, 20,000. 15 when he was in Halo 5 or whatever and they scanned him in but they definitely like made him look a little bit better yeah i mean they touched him up a little bit they made him look a little bit more you know like hyper fantasy kind of like it's these are fake this is this is a this is an adventure these are right this is fake i do kind of feel bad for like modern actors because they're like they're beautiful and they look great and then they're scanning the game and then they just look fucked. Like MJ's actor
Starting point is 00:10:30 in Spider-Man 2 looks beautiful. And then in the game, she's a pretty lady. Like, I don't know what they put her in a blender. And I have to wonder like, from the actress perspective, I wonder, it's like, I wonder if they look at that and they're like, well, they have to. You could have, I mean, you could have helped a little bit. It is really funny because she is a very pretty lady. And it's like, what do y'all do it?
Starting point is 00:10:56 It happens constantly. I'm playing, I was playing Saros, and there's a character, there's a black woman in Saras, and she's just kind of, she's like a secondary character or whatever. And it doesn't help that the facial captures kind of fucked. I'm like, this is kind of rough. But then I saw the actress and I'm like, that's straight up not the same person. You actively like made this person fatter somehow. Like I don't know, like way fat. Like I don't even understand. I don't even understand.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Like, why? It's weird. I just don't think they know how to do it. I think straight up they're just dumb or something. Like, it's weird. But anyway, this is very. beside the point. The state of play happened. They showed a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I don't know. Control looks cool. It's fine. They're bringing back stunt man too, which is kind of crazy. But they ended with they ended with 20 minutes of uninterrupted
Starting point is 00:11:47 gameplay of God of the new God of War, God of War, Lafay or Lafay? Lafay, yeah. And it's a God War game where you play is Faye, which is a curious decision, but I think it's actually fine. But, yeah, we've known about this for a while. I'm going to let you guys.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I said my piece on a stream. I'll go after you guys. Okay. What did, what did you guys think of the? Kingston, you go first because I bet you have what I have to say is a little shorter. What, man? I think I'm excited
Starting point is 00:12:30 This nigga just I thought he was serious I think I think I'm excited for the new combat system I think that Her being more agile Agile and magic oriented with a sword Is cool
Starting point is 00:12:46 The ribbon sword looks really awesome I like the idea of having Similar match to the way Atreus has magic You know So I think that'll be cool The Yotin shit my only problem is just I don't like
Starting point is 00:13:00 how so many characters are just people you know it's really annoying now like it's not her like she's a great actress I've been watched her since true blood in like 2010
Starting point is 00:13:10 like great actress I enjoy what she's a part of most of the time I just am tired of seeing people you know like I'm tired of seeing like oh that's a guy like solid snake isn't a guy
Starting point is 00:13:23 you know solid snake They're characters that are designed from the ground up to be their own. And then they have an actor voice them. Obviously, they take these characters take references from real people, clearly. I don't know how they look like Cratos, but like, you know, there's no. There's some guy with a black star tattoo somewhere in the Midwest. It looks like Cretto's. You know, what you're saying, though, is because like, yeah, you said things are based off of people.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And that's the thing of not. knowing who a character is based off of is the thing that's refreshing now that when you see uh uh karen from daredevil and you see like debor wilson everywhere that's where you're like if you didn't know who they were well actually that's not true if you if you knew if you didn't know who if you didn't know who debor wilson was before and then you started like just seeing her over and over again you probably like we brought twisted this shit that's enough that's enough but like say um i remember seeing like so mass effect right um seeing a shepherd the model that they use Like it looks, it's literally Shepherd.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It looks exactly like him. He's just some model. And so it doesn't bother me because he's just some fucking guy that you literally haven't seen him in anything before and you never seen anything moving forward. I even think like the guy in, what is it, days gone, he's Star Killer. Like, oh, yeah, it was Sam Whitworth. Thank you. Like, he's so different that I didn't even notice it was him.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Like, it didn't look like. So I think shit like that's cool. But like what you're saying right now, like, oh, that's just. just the actor that plays Karen and Daredevil. So yeah, that's a little distracting. It's a little, it's, it's, it's genuinely kind of just immersion breaking, actually. It kind of is. Like, it's weird to recognize real actors in video games.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's a lot more interesting to me. Like, I recognize Keith David's voice at this point, right? But Captain Anderson doesn't look like Keith David. Not at all. And I like that. You'd think that that would be, you'd even think about, I think about it from perspective of like if I was like a voice actor right and I wanted to do you know how like
Starting point is 00:15:25 um you know how uh actors will have a photo of them surrounded by all their characters what the fuck does that look like for a modern I agree for a modern voice actor it's just surrounded by themselves a million times and it's like that's so boy except for Deborah Wilson's like a million Deborah Wilson's and then Sabbathood
Starting point is 00:15:47 and Sabbathood is my favorite role of hers because I don't she's not, I can lose my, like, I can, I know that's her, but like I can lose myself in that role or whatever it is she's doing. And same thing with Captain Anderson and like the way that voice acting used to work. I get that it's easier to just scan a face in, get the capture and, uh, then it is designing a person from scratch, especially with all the detail that you would need to fabricate from the ground up. I get that. And I understand. I'm sympathetic to that to some, some extent, especially because I don't need games getting more expensive. I think games are, I think they're spending too much money on games as it is. So I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 But I do think there is something lost in this. It feels a little bit more like trying to emulate television or emulate film. Yep. Then embracing what made the medium special, which is the fact that like any actor could have played anybody. Like Deborah Wilson could have played like a white grandma or you know what I mean? Or any number like that's diminished now because now it's like, oh, we can't. pass that person in this role because she doesn't look the part. And it's like, well, it's a fucking video game.
Starting point is 00:16:55 It's just kind of crazy to me. Like, I don't understand it. But, 100%. But yeah, I get that. That's not the biggest complaint for me just because Karen is so, like, I've not seen true. I only have seen Daredevil. And she's barely in video games. So, like, she's not
Starting point is 00:17:11 oversaturated to me. She's not the problem. But I agree. It is not her. She's not the problem. I know what you're saying. Yeah, it's an unfortunate. And she's also a very talented actress. She's extremely talented. I guess she's cool. Every product she's been in, I've fucking, I've loved so far.
Starting point is 00:17:27 She's a big D&D fan, which I think is awesome as well, too. I think she's stoked. She got a fucking John Bernthal into play some D&D. What's crazy is that I know, I know he would love shit like that. He just too macho. He rolls a one and he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. His character's dying and he's having a full meltdown. Yeah, there was like, I think she has a podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:50 or vice versa. I think it maybe he is. And then like, he was a podcast. Yeah, and I saw that they were doing a little bit of that role playing. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:17:57 look at this fucking macho fuck. And he was like, this is cool. And it's like, yeah, no shit. Of course it's cool. Like it's like it's,
Starting point is 00:18:04 I know it's tied to nerddom, but the concept of like making shit up. It's like you'll have people do fantasy drafts and shit playing sports. And then for some reason, they can't extrapolate that. They can centralize playing like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:17 it's really. people people are old people are old and it's just it's just what it is their brains can't conceptualize it's like you understand the shit that you're doing in your spare time is this yeah it's the same thing yeah like what do you what do you mean what do you way way way way we I don't want to be cool that's not cool like he didn't know he didn't know d and d was nerdy and then he finds out later and he's so upset yeah he's literally brought to his knees he's brought to the floor by it he can't get it what's the uh what's the actor what's her name do you know her name uh debra wall i think
Starting point is 00:18:57 debor and wall yeah yeah yeah she yeah i like her i i think she's really cool actually so another deborra by the way another debor there's a deborick conspiracy going on they know they know they know man they know the debra met her yeah she uh good for her i mean it's uh it was weird how a lot of people were surprised because she she was in ragner rock so i thought that was a little weird Now, she has been reworked, though, to look more like her. The design is different for sure. I instantly noticed that part. I was like, you don't look exactly if you were.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I do have to be real. Like, I totally, like, I forgot that she was in the games at all. Like, I knew that Faye was a character. That's fair. But, like, I only played, I played Ragnarok once when it came out. And then I played like 50 games since then. I totally forgot that that was her. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It didn't even cross my mind. That's actually fair. And I think that's a lot of people's experience. actually, yeah. I'm excited to play as her because she's, she's a, you know, if you play,
Starting point is 00:19:52 if you pay attention to bragging rock, she's a monster. If you play it at all attention to how strong of a character she was, she almost beat Thor. So the fact that they fought to a standstill and fucking damage the realm is fine. And I'm excited to see her play later. If, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:08 like just from paying attention to the games, you know, she's formidable. Kratos is one thing that he says, that stuck in my mind is like she fought beautifully. And like the way that like he used that word, That's not a word that he would normally even use. And he was just like, oh, beautifully.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I was like, oh, I want to see her fucking fight. And so we saw it. And for what I loved about the showcase in the beginning was the first thing that they did was for OG God of War fans. So the first thing did after when you were able to control her, jump to double jump. And the animation of the double jump. I was like, oh, my, that's, I laughed. I was laughing like a lot. I was like, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You guys, you knew how to rope me in. I was a little bit concerned about the, you know, the squirrel frog thing. I was like, uh-oh. Yeah. I was like me, some Star Wars. Yep. I'm always down for a good creature, you know. I was like, I was game for a good creature.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You know what's funny though? I like, once I saw the fucking cube, I was like, I missed that squirrel frog thing. I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, we got to, we have to talk about the cube. Yeah. We must. So in, by the way, I'll just say what little I have to say, which is not too much about like the rest of it. 20 minutes is too much for this.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I think I think I'm intrigued by it because I played the previous games. If you don't recognize any of this shit, I would imagine this being very boring. Yeah. So I would have maybe shown less or just focused on the actual gameplay parts because they said 20 minutes of gameplay. And it's not really. It's more like the first 20 minutes of the game. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I agree. Because like there's maybe like five minutes of gameplay in that. Really. Like a fighting and like traversal. The rest of it's cutscenes, which is cool. It's fine. But that cube shows up, dude. So they're in, apparently they're in like the afterlife of the gods where,
Starting point is 00:22:05 like a lot of mythologies converge. I think there's like an Egyptian god and like a, is there a Japanese god, I think? Or no. It's Jeff. We saw, from what I saw, I thought they were like Mesoamerican. So the demons. Oh, there's a Tibetan, I think there's a Tibetan god and an Egyptian god. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Those are the two characters. The Egyptian one's obvious. And then like somebody did point out Tibetan. I was like, I don't see the references, but I'm also, I'm fucking know anything. I have no, I have no knowledge of Tibetan. I'm also an American. Exactly. So I don't fucking have any clue what the fuck that is.
Starting point is 00:22:35 That is something that's worth noting. It's like, I do think Norse and Greek are obviously recognizable in a way that like a lot of the stuff in this game is not going to be, which is going to be interesting, but it's going to be less obvious to people, why it's cool. Like, I had to look into the showcase trailer to even understand, like, why a lot of that stuff was cool. It's not immediately obvious, like, it is with Greek or Norse,
Starting point is 00:23:00 where it's just like, oh, Thor, oh, you know, the Greek mythos that we all obviously intrinsically know from, like, Hercules even and just... Being American, dude. So you have to be a little bit more educated to appreciate some of the stuff that's in there, which I appreciate, but I understand it might be. That's a risky thing to do, I think. But so she gets locked in a cage and then immediately you hear Jack Quaid.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yep. And look, I like Jack Quaid. I think Jack Quaid's really real cool. No one dislikes him. We have nobody. Yeah, he's one of the better, he's one of the best Nepo babies, I think, like earnestly. He's a tier one, I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, Tier one. I like that. Easy tier one nepo baby. He's great. When I heard his voice, I was like, do you don't, leave chat. You don't cast this character. You don't cast Jack Wade for a serious, for like, gravitas.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So what is this, what is this comedic relief character going to be? Yep. And they're under a sheet, and the sheet comes off, and it's a fucking gelatinous cube. And I was like, I had the thought to myself It's like, okay, look, maybe this is mythology that I'm just not familiar with. I'm, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Because I'm like, I don't know, I don't know everything. I'm comfortable with the fact that I don't know everything. It's fine. It is, it is probably mythology. It is probably something deeper than what we understand. I've looked, I've looked, I've looked, I've looked deep into this. I cannot find a single thing outside of D&D mythology. Oh, you're talking about the cube, the gelatinous cube literally.
Starting point is 00:24:43 There's literally no, I can't, I, I'm a pretty decent I know how to Google my way around Even in this AI fucking shit show Yeah I know how to find information I could not find a single fucking thing About this gelatinous cube That I'm aware of
Starting point is 00:24:58 Maybe some people in the comments can enlighten me But I was like immediately I was like I don't know about this dude I don't know about this But I was okay with it I was like alright maybe this is Something Whatever fine like I'm not gonna focus on it Then you get into combat dude
Starting point is 00:25:13 And And I audibly, I, like, I don't think I audibly laughed because I was on stream and I had to hold it together. But, like, in my, in my heart, I had to be like, yo. What? Because you're fighting. And this guy's like your character. He's like, you're Atreus, basically. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:33 This gelatinous fucking cube. And there's this, there's all these great animations happening in the combat. And she's like, Fay is doing all this magic shit. She's twisting. She's using a sword rope to pull people in. It's fucking sick. I love a good grapple mechanic and all that said. Like, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And then out of nowhere, from screen right, the cube will just be like, boom, boing. And it looks so uncanny. It's so stupid. I love it. I saw it and I saw it and it made my heart sore because I was like, oh, this is just dog shit. I love it. I'm glad you're fine. Like, you know, since you're not like a massive god of war for.
Starting point is 00:26:15 fan like me to where I like that you can get like joy out of how how dumb it is to where it actually just bothers me you know I'm like I saw that I want the gelatinous cube in your favorite IPs I want that's basically I was like I want you to feel how I feel right now because I understand from the outside looking in that shit is funny it is it's like oh look at look at how you can just spit on this fucking this really cool action sequence by putting a bouncing gelatinous cube. I was like, oh, cool. I thought that shit was fucking hilarious, dude. I was locked into the fight, especially the fight when she's fighting that Tibetan demon or whatever the fuck. I was Tibetan. Okay, I thought that was messal American. I was fucking locked in. I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:57 this is sick. And then seeing that cube slide around in the background and then. Bumped her dog. That shit was hilarious. Not even like say, look, I would even maybe make an exception of like, oh, I'm stunned. I need help. And he does something to counter. No, the, demon stunned and then it comes in and then takes a cheap shot while it's fucking I mean staggered and I was like get the fuck out of you I don't need your help dude like she first of all like I don't need your help and and it's a fucking cube and it's Jack Quaid going yeah I'm like okay dude I was like I paused it I paused the stream because I was like no no I was like I was so like that that fight like I was annoyed by the cube at first when it first revealed itself because
Starting point is 00:27:44 I've been following the spoilers and the leaks from the very beginning and it was already rumored that there was a gelatinous cube and I was like, shut the fuck up, that's not happening. And then the cube showed up and I was like, oh my God. And then the feathers on the sword are talking. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Starting point is 00:28:02 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I was like, no. The way, it's the way, dude, for me, I saw the cube, I just, I just, I instantly was like, this is stupid. I saw I think the sword talking I think sentient weapons are cool it's not even I'm a D&D player it's not even the I'm assuming I'm a It's the shit attached to the sword it's the rib it I get it but for me I'm like all right
Starting point is 00:28:25 This is this is D&D I love I love dark drinker that's a cool fucking fucking Michael Morcock I'm all right like all right this weapon is fine more cock That's hot as fuck yeah are you serious Michael morcock yeah that's hot as fuck That's nuts is he gay I feel like I feel like he could Borcock can be a reference to him because he always like he has more
Starting point is 00:28:46 cock on inside her So you just say he's well endowed Oh yeah I that's what I thought That's what I thought That's my that's my cerebral Yeah me too Me too
Starting point is 00:28:54 It's my sorry But it is But like I don't know My brain was instantly I would be like All right cool This is ridiculous I'm gonna see
Starting point is 00:29:02 Where this ride takes me That's where I was instantly But I know for you You like you You're different in the sense that you like the things you love to be taken seriously because you love it, which is right. Yeah, I'm not even asking for much in the sense that like, if you want to put it, like, even if you want, let's just break it.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Even if you want to put in a cube, let's not have let's, could it at least be like serious? I don't know. Like it's just, it's an object that like the orb in fucking BG3 or something or like, or like, I mean the, um, not the orb, the, um, fuck. I, I can't remember that, that, that thing that, that won't leave your side. Oh yeah, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the artifact. Yeah, that thing. Like, if it's just something like, it's a prop that's important.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And even if it does help you in combat in ways, maybe it shoots out lighting and stunlocks. It does something, but I don't need it to be bouncy and retarded on, on the, on the battlefield. I don't need that, man. And, and, and the thing about, like, the new God of Wars, because I saw some people that they didn't mind at Trace, um, um, they didn't fine Freya. Freya was obviously infinitely better than Atreus when you partnered up with her in my opinion. Oh yeah. But like the thing historically when I've been playing these games what would be a devil may cry being at the original god of war being at anything. I don't the only time I've
Starting point is 00:30:23 ever wanted a partner is if I was fucking doing co-op with somebody. Like where you pick another character and we're playing together. I don't need this side thing that's always talking telling me to look out, watch out, fucking Jack Quaid the cubes doing the same thing. Oh, enemies are back here. And I'm like, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I can see. I can see it. Like, what's unfortunate is that they did that, you know, you remember the focus, you remember the Mario in Unreal Engine meme that was going around a couple months ago.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It was like Focus M. Oh, right. You remember that? Yes. They literally, they literally do say that in this. Like the Jack Quaid's like, focus,
Starting point is 00:30:57 Focus, Faye. And I'm like, oh, he did say, and I was like, oh, oh dear. I don't like that at all.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I don't understand the mandate for having these sidekicks that talk all the time, like that are always talking. It's almost like they're afraid of dead air too, where it's like they always have to be saying. Oh, of course. They are afraid of there. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, what happened to that though? What happened to just like, like Leon, like fucking just traversing through an area? And then he says a few quippy things when he runs into somebody, but he's mostly just taking care of business. Like, what's wrong with that? What the fuck's wrong with that? Why does you have to turn into this Disney fucking like Marvel thing? why?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah, that's that there is this weird. The little creature in the beginning was kind of like a red flag for me. And I was like, uh-oh. Like, look, I want to be clear. I think, I think that game's going to be good. I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow, by the end of that experience, make me genuinely care about this fucking cube.
Starting point is 00:31:54 About the cube. I wouldn't be surprised at that. They're going to do it. But on the outset, it does bother me that it's there. I'm going to keep it 100. Like, I saw it and I was like, this is insane. Imagine. Kingston, what's your favorite thing?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Imagine there's a gelatinous cube in D&D. Oh. Wait, never mind. Oh, what if, what if, what if,
Starting point is 00:32:15 what if, what if, what if fucking Arbiter was a gelatinous cube? Why, you play too much? You play too much. Why would you do that? You play,
Starting point is 00:32:23 you see, you, Derek, you see, I don't like, I don't like being derogatory to people are the same color as me, right? But I feel like you knew that would bother me.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But yeah, you did that on purpose. Obviously, that's a little bit too much of an example, because I wouldn't even call like a side character, like a partner. He's like he's his own entity essentially. A gelatinous cube.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Like he's a cube. It's fucking. Arveter would be so disrespectful to me explicitly. I'm a cube. I'm going through religious turmoil. What is faith? I just want to like for the people that are unbothered, it's not that I want, I said, I said before we start recording it's like my mission, my, I want to argue, I want people to be
Starting point is 00:33:03 as bothered as I am. I'm joking. But I want people to understand that like these side things and these quippy characters that if they weren't in the game, the game I imagine. And I feel pretty confident in saying that the game would probably be a lot better if these things weren't in here. They're not improving the games in my opinion. When I think of a game that everybody unanimously thought had a lot of cringy dialogue,
Starting point is 00:33:33 was a for sworn or for spoken for spoken for spoken had a lot of dialogue that just felt out of place it felt very modern it felt very cheap and i want people to remember that that like yeah that's basically remember that jack quade's role is to have this cheeky fucking dialogue be a kind of a man out of time in a in a cube named frank and and it's like oh well this is already kind of cheapens But it's, but it's spelled P-H-R-A-N-Q-E. I was thinking that it was probably just like, if you guys remember from the first god of war, the turtle home, that giant tortoise home,
Starting point is 00:34:16 its name is, I think Charlie, I think, if I can't remember, it's been, it's been a while. Yeah, the one that, the one that Freya lived in, right? Yeah, yeah. What's his name? Atres calls it Charlie or Charles? I think it's Charlie. But it's like a
Starting point is 00:34:29 Charlie Kirk, right? Yeah. Can you imagine? But it's an inside joke that it's an inside joke by the developers that it's name is like Charlie or something. It's like a regular name. It's like Charles Entertainment Kirk or something. And they,
Starting point is 00:34:44 I'm wondering if it's the same thing for this Frank. Frank the Cube is something. Or since it's this thing of the gods, he could be a man at a time. He could be a, I don't, we don't fucking know. Obviously they're going to make you care about the cube.
Starting point is 00:34:57 That's like that's, that's, that's like, that's, that's, obvious. They're going to make you care. That's the writing challenge that they have. The thing, the thing with the turtle, though, is that like, that's a one-off thing. It's not something that's following you around. It's kind of like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's like in Halo. There's a Marine who's canonically, his name is Chips Dubbo. That's his name. And he's an Australian Marine and he's completely unsurious. And he can die. he dies like a million times I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:35:28 it's not serious but he's not following you and like he's not like a main character that that's going to have like this like there's no there's no chips doubles lament yeah right you know what I mean like there's no there's no there's no scene where he's like
Starting point is 00:35:45 dying and it's like a four minute scene of his heart stopping it's like there's not going to be any of that I think just I don't know I think aside from aside from the cube. Hold on. I'm not done with the cube yet, bro. I ain't done with that fucking cube.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Don't you dare try to sidestep the cube yet. I'm sorry, Derek. I didn't know how invested you are. My apologies continue. Continue. No, no. I just need like 30 more seconds. I just need like 30 more seconds for this. 30 more seconds on the cube. Just like, because I've seen
Starting point is 00:36:20 some people, not many actually. To be very fair, I think most people, even if they're being a little bit overly positive, just to counter a lot of the toxicity that we're going to get into, or kind of downplaying how dumb it is. Like, I understand they're doing that, but I know in their hearts of hearts, they understand that, yeah, that's kind of dumb. I know they understand that. And then there's people who are just realists. And I said it myself, it sucks that I have to get used to it. Because I'm going to, I'm going to get used to the cube. I'm going to get over how dumb it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 is maybe actually that's actually not even entirely fair because um in the veil guard for example i never entirely got over how the art style was it consistently bothered me so i can't even say that actually but i'm assuming i'm going to because i'm going to like everything else about the game because i am a god of war fan i i am invested i wasn't that invested in fay just because the game purposefully made us not invested in her because they barely showed her and i actually much more invested in Freya and her relationship with Kratos, which I would have, you know, from my opinion,
Starting point is 00:37:30 I would have loved to have seen where that gone more than dealing with Faye, but this is fine. I love the comment. It's going to be fun. How much of the story did you play, Derek, of that game? Of all of... God of War, Ragnarov. Like, did you do any of the
Starting point is 00:37:44 post-game content? Yeah, I did. Yeah, absolutely. I did... So you understand, you did the part where Kratos admits he's like, I think this bitch is bad as fuck, but like this is not... I don't think it's the right time for me to approach her. Well, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, you know, they had their little mini date in Valhalla. Um, it's there, there is massive, like, they're talking with, uh, with a, he's talking with, uh, he's talking with a, he's talking with a, yeah, basically like, it's, it's
Starting point is 00:38:08 locked. It's all but confirmed that he like, it's locked in. It just needs to, it needs more time. It needs more time. And, um, I actually love the idea of, of pursuing that because I really like, I think Freya out of all of that, it's like between, uh, Shingry and like Freya, they're like my favorite characters. It's between those two. Like,
Starting point is 00:38:28 yeah, I think they're great characters. Uh, I love, I love Freya in that game. She's fucking great. She's such a badass. She's great.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Yeah. Yeah. So like, it's, I'm like, cool. I'm not disappointed that they were, because I already,
Starting point is 00:38:40 first of all, I already heard about all the spoilers. And they said, most likely this is what they're going to do. And then that's exactly what happened. So, and I was pleasantly surprised. It's better than I even thought it could be.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Except for the cube. Except for the cube. That's it. But I get it. I don't know. I think this is such a cool. I think because we all know that they were going to emerge other mythologies. We knew that was impending since God of War III.
Starting point is 00:39:04 You know, like they're going to merger the methodologies. We want to see how it works, right? It's very much so hinted throughout the game of the whole time is like Odin being terrified, which he's going to show up in this game, obviously, duh. But Odin being like, I don't know where we go. I'm fucking scared. And I think that's part of the math. Like I I I the layout for this idea has been here and I think it's very cool that they're taking it from her perspective to be what ties it in.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And I'm excited for that. I yeah the afterlife of the gods where all the mythologies converge is interesting. I just kind of like I thought that we're going to go another way just because I was operating within the framework of God of war which is okay is cratos right. Yeah. And so the problem that you run into right is like how do you have cratos kill? and other entire pantheon of gods, or other pantheons, plural, if he's a changed guy.
Starting point is 00:39:57 You kind of can't do it. You know, you can't have, you can't have Cratos go out there, be like, I know I've been peaceful for a while, but I kind of feel like killing everything. You know,
Starting point is 00:40:09 like you kind of wrote yourself into a corner where you can't really do it with Cratos, unless, and this is what I thought they were going to do, I thought it was going to be like, Cratus is trying to live his peaceful life. He's trying to live his new, he's turned over his new leaf.
Starting point is 00:40:23 He's trying to be the god of whatever, peace or whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah. But he's already murdered two pantheons. And so the news would get to the other pantheons. And in an effort to just make sure this doesn't happen to them, they seek him out. That's what I thought it was going to be. because that would put Craig that would that would not
Starting point is 00:40:48 jeopardize Cratos his character arc it would have it would allow him to kill in like self-defense yeah and it would also allow the the him to kill a bunch of pantheons which would which I thought I think would be cool so I know enough about oh guys sorry go like oh no no you go go because I don't know I'm just operating on vibes okay no I because like I think this is the thing I know enough about Corey Barlog that those were thoughts that were it's kind of like the logical conclusion and he's a fucking hipster. I love Corey, but he's also a massive hipster. And what they're trying to do and what he's trying to do. He doesn't want to logical. He wants to subvert expectations. Absolutely. And I know he's not at the helm of this game right now, but he's obviously still consulted heavily. And yeah, I think that's unfortunate because sometimes I think the basic thing, good storytelling, is just following the instincts of like where it should just logically go. And I know a lot of people push back against that. that. So then you get kind of complicated things. I think that was the biggest problem when we talked about the Last of Us part two where you just want to make things more complicated than they need to be. And so we're running into that right now. And now like say old school God of War fans like myself are a little bit disappointed also because we now know it's going to take infinity billion years because in between this release because this is a major fucking flagship release.
Starting point is 00:42:09 It's not coming on each other. Yeah. Then you have the remakes coming out which like I'm cool but also I'm like I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. like, damn, I want to know what's next for Cretos, I would like to know, that's going to be fucking so far away. That's like 20, that's literally probably like 2035 probably. I'm not even joking. I agree. I agree. Because you figure they just started, because they just started
Starting point is 00:42:29 working on those remakes. If they didn't, they would have showed something more significant than just the fucking logo and T.C. Carton going out there doing a Jeff Goldblum impression. Right. Like, it would have been a lot more than that. So he's just Jeff Goldblum but black. That's crazy. Jeff Black Bloom? He's fucking black blooming. is so is that what happened is that what happens
Starting point is 00:42:47 Tartistic men at a certain point it is turned into like a lot of jewelry dripped out with a smile on their face and glasses because that's a because that's fire that's how I want on for real I would not mind me like that if I could end up even a fraction as cool as either of those people I'd be fine that's for me it's the rings dude like that's where I want to end up because I feel like
Starting point is 00:43:07 someone I feel like rings imposed that you got a lot so having a handful of rings just feels cool to me. And I want that to be me eventually. I feel so nerdy. Even though when I see other people dripped out in rings, I'm kind of like damn, look at that guy. Look at that fucking, look at that king. But then like... Exactly. Or my self, though,
Starting point is 00:43:25 I feel like a fucking F slur. Like, I feel like if I put a bunch I feel dumb, dude. The second I put on a ring, I'm immediately like, I might suck cock today, actually. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I don't know. That doesn't happen to me. That doesn't happen to me yet.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It doesn't feel appropriate on any part of my body. But the, what the fuck we're talking about? Oh. I don't even know. I know we were talking about got to wear. I can't remember the specific angle. What's crazy is I grew up not wearing jewelry. So that's why my brain can't fully wrap my head around it. I just wasn't allowed to wear
Starting point is 00:43:57 the word. Not, I guess we weren't allowed to wear jewelry. That's weird. So it's, it's stupid. I had a rosary, or not a rosary of Cruzevix. We didn't even wear crucifix and stuff like that. Whatever the one, because I know the cross, I know the cross and the crucifix for two different things. But I can't remember. not. No, but I mean in Catholic. Literal sense, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I think the crucifaces with Jesus with Jesus with Jesus kind of chilling on there being like, oh, it's me. Oh, hey. And it crosses just the normal cross. It's kind of hurts. I never wore Jesus pieces. I like none of that stuff I ever like put on, which makes me sad because like it, they just look cool sometimes. I think rosaries look cool as fuck. They do the rules of the beat. Wrap them around. They're the beard and wrist and shit. Yeah, it looks cool.
Starting point is 00:44:39 But you're thinking like monk fucking monk, Castlevania D&D shit. That's why. Your brain is like, you like, you think of, when you think of, when you think of a guy
Starting point is 00:44:48 with sword armor, it looks mystical to me. It looks like this nigga has powers. That's what a normal rosary looks like. They do look like that. Yeah, but his,
Starting point is 00:44:56 but Derek's attributing the aesthetic to a lot of. It looks like that. It looks like exactly. These people have holy magic or something. Yeah, you know, you're not thinking of an old, you're not thinking of an old white nigga
Starting point is 00:45:08 that fucking probably likes young boys running around with them being like a goddess. still God is here you know and then fucking while there's just a little boy trapped in this fucking basement praying to the same God he is shut up
Starting point is 00:45:24 that's the only reason that's the only reason they chant is to drown out the sounds of the speaking that is not that is not anyway that's so fucked up we didn't get to the the worst part of the discourse we didn't get to the worst part of the discourse
Starting point is 00:45:40 what is what is the worst part of discourse to you part of the discourse. So like what we just went through was the real discourse, healthy adults had about the game. And what I saw in most of the comment sections of normal places, right? Now if you go take a look at, and some people, I feel like they were dragging, basically a lot of the conversations that are happening on Twitter because of people like Asman Gold or whomever that are just being like, oh, woman, this, a whore of war, whatever the fuck they're saying. That's so disgusting. I'm seeing so many people being kind of disingenuous on both sides, but obviously it's a response. It's a reaction to all the dumb assholes who are pretending like, oh, they just hate it because it's not
Starting point is 00:46:24 Kratos or it's a woman or something like that. Those people, I feel like a lot of them are disingenuous. They are fine with a lot of female protagonists. They love a lot of old IPs. They loved Kill Bill. They love fucking Sigourney Weaver and aliens. They loved all this shit. And then you go in modern day now they're just bitching at everything because they're kind of being coerced into it by a lot of grifters that's what i see a lot of times it's not real but it's unfortunate that a lot of people are responding to it and they're loud yeah it's very loud and they're putting their energy into that and i'm seeing some takes about people being like like somebody responded to me on um on uh instagram because i i put out a couple of things and me just talking about the stuff
Starting point is 00:47:05 we already talked about and he was like man at least uh he's like that's fair criticism at least you're not saying woman bad and i'm like you're not saying woman bad and i'm like Yeah, of course I'm not motherfucker. Like, why are you even bring that shit up? Like, it's, it's not. They've really tainted the ability to just have normal conversations and normal critique. And that's what I've always, it's so irritating. Because there's a lot of reasons to critique things.
Starting point is 00:47:27 There's a lot of good, there's a lot of good points to be made. And it just gets drowned out. Like, I really do. I think there's an interesting conversation genuinely to have about not necessarily why, why female characters aren't hypersexualized in video games because I don't really give a shit about that. But there is an interesting conversation to be like, why do they look so weird? Sure. Like why is it not even them specifically, the guys too.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Like dude, Peter Parker and Spider-Man too looks scuffed in my opinion. Like what is so difficult about translating a person to a video game? I feel like, because there's some studios that nail it. Yes. So like what is going? Like, what is there's interesting conversations to have about it. But it's just like, you can't. They've made it impossible.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They have because it goes to extremes. You have the people who on the like anti-woke side or whatever that want all women to look like the ones in Mortal Kombat 9 or it's just like completely superficial and retarded. And then there's people who will defend characters who look janky. they will act like they will pretend like there's nothing wrong with them like bro you you know looking at this person they look off like why can't you just be honest about this shit you know what made me particularly notice this is like i because i've been playing uh i was playing james bond over over the last uh double seven the first light fucking great by the way that might be my like game of the year i think for me looks good i can't want to play it yeah and dude they're so hot It's crazy. It's insane. There's like a bond girl in that game that I'm like, I can't believe. And she looks exactly like the model that they, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:18 Like it's exactly. And I'm like, oh, so why can Iyo do this? Why can they do? And it's not, by the way, it's not like they made her hot. It's just like this is a hot person. Right. They casted her and they translated that exact thing to the game. Whereas in a lot of games, like they'll,
Starting point is 00:49:38 hire a hot person. They'll put her in the game and then she'll be like, she'll look like clay. Yeah. It's crazy. And it's not even just like, again, it's not even just the superficial stuff. It's literally in the texture work.
Starting point is 00:49:51 It's in the lighting. A lot of it's just shoddy and it's confusing because these are like multi-million dollar games. I just don't know. Is it like, the conversation I would like to have is, and this only the developers know this. It's like, is this purposeful?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Is it like an overreaction? Is it like a, is it like, is it you trying to be like man fuck the you know what I mean is it like a choice or is it just like is it an incompetence thing not an incompetence maybe that's too mean
Starting point is 00:50:16 is it like a you know what I mean like is it just like you don't quite know how to do it the way other studios do because I could believe that as well but like nobody addresses it that's the thing like I've not I've not heard I've not heard like a director's commentary of a video game where at least not in the modern day
Starting point is 00:50:33 it used to be everywhere like in the late 2000s you would have like video games the director's commentary where they're like, yeah, we fucked up on this character model. They'll talk about that. Like, they'll talk about like, I don't know why we put so many fucking hallways in this level. Isn't this fucking ridiculous? They'll, like, critique their own stuff. And it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And that stuff does not exist anymore. Yeah. Like, you cannot find, like, you can't be, you cannot find. Do you remember? Yeah, we didn't, like, I don't know. There's something with our scanning technology that was just like, we just couldn't, we couldn't, we couldn't translate these people, which is weird. But, like, I think it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:04 But there's none of that. You know what I mean? I'm not looking for these grand explanations, but like some transparency, just because I like the process of making these things and I like to learn more about them, and I would like to know what they're thinking and how they do it and what mistakes they make
Starting point is 00:51:20 and what their choices are. Yeah. People being completely authentic and not being afraid to mention something like this, especially when it pertains to women in the video games and how they look and not being afraid of coming off as misogynistic, because I know I'm pretty, sure. I shouldn't say I know, but I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:51:39 that that is a reason why some people would even be afraid to say anything because it's gotten, it's gotten a little bit weird. Like, um, I'm sure we're, dude, I can I say that? I'm sure we're going to get those comments to do at some point. I'm sure even the conversation we just had is going to be like, you're going to be like, it's weird that you care. And it's like, yeah, it's like, what, like what do you mean? You're not like, let me, I think, I want to pull, oh, no, it's, things are so weird because like, I don't know, like I, I'm playing games for the most part to escape the world I live in, right? Right. And like I, I'm of two minds. I am, because I am
Starting point is 00:52:13 woke-brained, right? Like, I do exist with that mentality of like, yeah, not every character needs to be sexualized. I agree with that mentality. But I think it also, like, who doesn't like looking at prettier versions of characters that they want to aspire to if I'm playing a game? If I'm playing like life is strange, right, where I'm playing a game that's a very like narrative, grounded world reality thing. It's like, okay, no, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm not looking for that kind of stuff, you know? If Lily's playing Animal Crossing, Isabel doesn't need giant fucking tittyes, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:44 and a fucking huge ass. But if I'm playing this like action events, that's already a power fantasy. I'm saying as a man as well, too. I understand that. Then why not make the characters the hottest male characters, the hottest possible female characters, you know, this is a fantasy. It's meant to be that thing. I don't even need them to be obscenely hot or anything.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I just feel like I just don't want it to look fucked. You know what I mean? What you're saying is more grounded. You're talking about like it's far more grounded. Stetically, and this is a thing like where people keep talking about like sexual or sexualization or something like that. I'm like, I think a lot of people are missing the point. I think a lot of the anti-woke brain people, it is, it is, I would argue, besides the, um, the anti-woke freaks that are, you know, porn-brained, like the real. ones. The real ones that are like freaks like that. Right. Everybody else is talking about aesthetics.
Starting point is 00:53:38 That we as humans, we like aesthetically pleasing things. So obviously when we're looking at people, we prefer. Because like if you just think about this, what if there was a person? Let's just talk about the, um, uh, Fay. Like what if her eyes were so wide that they're almost like on the sides of her fucking, like on their temples. you would be bothered and then there would be some dumb assholes out there overly positive that would be acting like who's wrong with that I'm like bro stop
Starting point is 00:54:10 just admit that that shit looks weird and you can still be okay with it but you can admit that like yeah it's a little weird that they chose her to look like that but you can also like why can't you do both things and that's the thing that's pissing me off about this era where if you mention that
Starting point is 00:54:29 oh, her character looks a little off. Like, we like this actor. She's great. She's beautiful. And in this game, she looks a little off. Why is that fucking weird to point out? And it's at points in the game where that's not a choice. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Because it's like, there are, again, if you know anything about like film or like, or like movie making or whatever, like, you know the shot is like, you try to, you set the shot in such a way. It's like, oh, he looks a little weird here. The light's not casting the right shadow on his face. Let's move the lighting to make him look more presentable for the screen. But then there are certain scenes where, like, I don't know, maybe it's more permissible that they look a little more, you know, natural, I guess, where it's like if they're, like, down or if they're struggling or if they're going, if they're like ugly crying, where, like, you kind of want to emphasize, like, how much to
Starting point is 00:55:23 you break it up. Like, where you would use it. In a lot of these games, it's like, particularly, and by the way, way, I want to point out that I don't think I have this problem with God of War, actually. I think God of War does a pretty decent job. Like, I don't think anything, I genuinely don't think anything in the new God of War Showcase made me think this. I think Debra Ann Wall looks like Deborah Ann Wall.
Starting point is 00:55:41 So, like, it's perfectly fine to me. I'm talking purely about insomniaicaves, like, genuinely. I'm thinking about Mary Jane when I'm talking about this. Because it's really the only time I've really noticed it. Like, where it's been jarring, where I'm like, bro, why does Mary Jane look so fucked? Did you not? All the time. Did you not see Miles in the first game?
Starting point is 00:56:00 I think he... Look. Look. I'll let him talk. Look, guys. Look, you know the way I go after the guy from Fresh and Fit, right? What do you say? You know how I'd be going after him?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Chris knows why he's being quiet. That's what he's actively not saying anything. What are you saying, sir? Say it with your full chest. Derek, look up, you want me? People watching the podcast. I don't remember. So I'll go look at it.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Look up Miles Moron. from Spider-Man PS5. Look him up, please. So the game or from in the first Spider-Man game? In the first Spider-Man game. They do, my boy, no favors at all.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Are you done? He looks like a maze from that comic. He looks like a maze. Come on, dude. No, he does it. Yes, he does. He looks scoffed, bro. I don't scuffed. everybody in that game
Starting point is 00:57:01 I really do believe this with a jungle aesthetic I really do believe this I really do believe this I really do I really do believe this I think everybody in the insomniac games looks look scuffed They do look a little weird
Starting point is 00:57:11 Like even black cat When they release black cat She was just like this is not She's supposed to be like a sex symbol That's kind of crazy She looks her face looks a little too I don't I don't know Her face looks like a person wearing a costume
Starting point is 00:57:23 It looks like a little too Not even though It looks like uncanny It's like she looks hot She had a nice should have a nice bill to her, some meat on her legs. I was like, oh, I, you know, I'm going to be busy tonight. But it was, it was just like, it was this like, you look, you look like, I don't know, she looked like a mom.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah, that was scanned in. You know what it is? They look scanned in. Like they look like they're scanned. I don't know. It's weird. Yeah. I mean, dude, there's, it's, it's, I would hope that people would just be.
Starting point is 00:57:58 honest about this shit and not just overreact because I feel like um like I wish we could drown out the anti-woke people by not paying them so much attention that they desperately crave and uh you know so when you're talking about these things and you're mentioned about because we've talked about it many times and like you said there's probably some people going to be why do you care so much it's like it's like it's not about that like we're like do we sound like ultra passionate or something are we crying or something it's like no we're just having a conversation about it. And I don't care as much about this subject as much as much as I care about the fact that
Starting point is 00:58:35 we just can't talk about it normally. Yeah. That's what that's what bothers me about it. I agree with that. It's not necessarily this. It's the fact that this can't be discussed without like a tidal wave of weird energy being surrounded. I came across the tweet.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I saved it. I want to pull it up. I came across a tweet that was saying, because there are some people just OG got a war fans that are just. just like, oh, man, I love Credos. I just, I, you know, I would have liked to have played as Cretos again because I don't think, um, I don't think, uh, Faye is going to be as cool as Cretos because Cretos is the shit. I love Cretos. Like a very simple, ex, but not, that's just very simple.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And to me, what I would say to that, I'm like, oh, yeah, I understand that like you would you prefer. Not I get it. Like, I get that. Okay, whatever. And, uh, this tweet that I have right here, this guy fucking says this, this got 24,000 likes. He says, just as a reminder, Kratos reveres Faye as one of the strongest warriors he's ever seen. If you're somehow pissed about Lafay because she's not as badass, you're a fake as hell God of war fan who probably just hates women and you should look into that. And I'm like, huh? So you see what the perfect, the perfect thing could have been like, the beginning of
Starting point is 00:59:47 that tweet would have been perfect. And I'm like, let's just wait and see how cool she's going to be. Or we might be surprised. That's it. You know, that's it. You might be pleasantly surprised. And I think that is, I think that's, I think that probably happened to a lot of people already that they're like, this looks way cooler than I ever imagine it could have been. Well, no, that comment, that comment and retort to what the guy said, right?
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's like, I think you're from president. Because like, obviously it's engagement bait. Everything is engagement bait. All of it is. It's not about a perspective is or actually honest opinions anymore. It's about like, oh, what is going to get people to respond? My Twitter, I don't go on Twitter anymore right now because I love Star Wars and it's so much Star Wars hate on Twitter. It's like crazy because if one of the biggest franchises.
Starting point is 01:00:27 very divisive. Every moment I go on there, it's a lot of niggas are talking shit about my personal favorite character, Osokitana, who is a female, young, black-coated character. So it's all of the shit, you know, and he's very
Starting point is 01:00:44 integral to the main story of the universe. So it has turned it's like people just saying shit to say shit. I think it's just meant to bait people. I know that it gets annoying being fans of it because we're just looking at it all the time and they feed us that directly all the time. And they feed us that directly all the time. it's really exhausting.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Like I'm sure if Twitter was really pop and popping, or you were probably popping as much when Halo came out, Chris, you probably would have lost your mind when Halo 4 came out. Because even a bad thing, even the good things that are done is just, it's so overwhelmingly phased, like this
Starting point is 01:01:15 covered by bad shit and bad faith interactions. People that just actively say shit about the things that you like that don't even fucking know anything about it. Well, to be fair, yeah, yeah. I mean, I like Halo 4 on a baseline level. I think it's a good game. I get it. I hate it interpersonally.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I get it. But like, let's say Halo 3 came out, right? Halo 3 came out. And it would have been like, just so much dog shit about Halo 3 that you would have been like, dude, I can't. If Twitter was the way it is now when Halo 3 came out, people would hate the shit out of it. Oh, absolutely. I think of it like this. A lot of great shows that had a weaker first season.
Starting point is 01:01:52 If they existed in modern times, they wouldn't have had a second season. because things aren't let boil. Like a lot of stories aren't at their apex in the first season. A good first season is cool, but unfortunately a good first season allows there to be more. So if you don't get a really hyped first season in the way their world is, which is going to ruin it. A lot of good things I know have fine first seasons and then they get they reach their fever pitch. But now it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And is this really unfortunate? I agree that that that nigga was probably like, you know, too like, no. leave it alone. It's going to be a female character. You're not paying attention, but it's like that might have been a bot, man. Like I can't even give my heart into like arguing about things like that anymore. These aren't even real humans. Well, if a nigga says it and I see it's
Starting point is 01:02:36 They're not being. I think the problem is the thing that's annoying me the most These people that are responding, the bots are the ones that are just doing the woman bad or whatever the fuck. There's like a bunch of those. It's the people who are real that are responding like they're reacting to
Starting point is 01:02:52 that and being really hostile on other on the other end of the spectrum were, and those people annoy me more because, first of all, bots are going to be bots. And the retarded anti-woke people are going to be that. That's unfortunately, they're going to be that.
Starting point is 01:03:06 It's the people that I know that, like, I know you have more common sense than this. Why are you acting like, oh, anyone who's just saying that Cratos, I don't like, even if,
Starting point is 01:03:17 dude, even after the game comes out, many people will be like, um, I've been rocking with Cratos for 20 years. I'm still going to like Cratos more than Faye, just by default. Even if Faye is fucking awesome. It's like this is one of the most iconic video game characters that have existed.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Top 20, top 10 maybe, you know, you can argue. And to be like, oh, you're a fake fan if you don't think she's great because Cretos thinks she's great. I'm like, what the fuck kind of argument is that? That's so silly that was like, we're doing too much. Let's just reel it in a little bit. and like I would say to a lot of people that I would see like their comments going to the top
Starting point is 01:03:55 I'm not seeing a single fucking person I'm looking at some people that I follow on Instagram that that you know they're all about gaming no one's talking about I don't like women in the comment sections but those people are reacting to people that aren't even there they're not even in the comment section I'm like bro can we talk about that game why like you calm down please
Starting point is 01:04:13 and it bothers me because I think there's like a lot of interesting angles to look at the new god of war from which is the fact that like, so they're doing this one, there's this one shot camera again. Uh-huh. And it's like a very cinematic style. And I do think on some level that has lost the sluster a little bit. I think people are a little bit bored with that.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I know I am. I am. I'm just kind of like. It doesn't hit the same way anymore for me. It's not as interesting. It's not like, like it was really cool in 2018 because it was like, okay,
Starting point is 01:04:38 this is like a very different style and they did it well. And they had a clear vision for it. Yeah. Now it just kind of feels like, oh, well, this is what we do. You know, like this is like the style that we kind of,
Starting point is 01:04:49 I actually think it would have been more interesting if it was just like a like if they shot it more traditionally So the leaks were saying That it was going to be And maybe they now like in hindsight It's specifically just about maybe the combat But they were saying it was probably going to look a little bit more
Starting point is 01:05:05 Like Devil May Cry 5 And I was actually like Oh I want that really? Yeah And I was like I'm cool with that Because they were saying that it's not going to have the same type of vibe As the as the as the games It was going to be like a little more different in that
Starting point is 01:05:18 And I was actually kind of looking forward to that or I was like oh I want a different feel and then so I was a little bit I was like oh well this is just literally shot the exact same way so that was a little bit of a bummer but yeah the combat way way of way at least I'm like I get to play around more because um I kind of have these rose colored a lensed or tinted or whatever the fuck you want to say I don't know what's the proper way to say but for those glasses of um where I'm more looking for just a video game and um I I I didn't play shadow the earth tree because I was a little bit burnt out about a lot of the Soulslight games. But I'm looking back on it, I was like, God, I want to just jump back into that shit because those are just fucking video games, dude. They're just, you're just fucking shit up. You're just playing some cool shit. And this game, I know I'm going to enjoy it, but I know for myself, I would be surprised
Starting point is 01:06:09 if I play more than once. Yeah. Because it's just like, these, yeah, go ahead. Well, these games feel, like, I'm looking forward to the new God of War. I think it'll be cool. but I'm looking forward to it in a way that I would look forward to like a season of TV. You know, we're like, I don't, I don't know if I'm excited. I'm excited to see what happens in the new God of War.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But I'm, I'm way less excited to play the New God of War than I am. Like, I'm more excited to see what happens than I am to play it, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, that's a good point. That makes sense. Like, it's just, because I know, I know, I know what God of War is going to be. It's not, I don't know, man. Like, there's, I like systems heavy, dense games. And so many games just aren't those.
Starting point is 01:06:52 They're cool. The presentation's great. And it's, you know, it's, they're very interesting. So he has a lot of ability and a lot of, a lot of very good things they do when it comes to,
Starting point is 01:07:04 just creating stories and going about how they deal with their characters. I am excited to try this game out because I think the game is probably going to be very good. I think the, I just think the alternate play styles. That's how my brain works. Like, I've played as Kratos in the previous ones. I like him.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I think in one, he plays very interesting. I love the Leviathan Ax. I love the idea for the most part, like a very utility heavy weapon. There's one weapon that is a lot of things. It's very versatile. It has a very cool elemental base, very cool.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I think him getting his blades of chaos, obviously classic weapons. I think the second one is an upgrade on every single mechanic that was available in the first one. And that's very, very cool. And I'm excited to see a different perspective. I think Atreus, this play style was cool
Starting point is 01:07:48 but I think the way that the world reacts to his place that wasn't the way I'd like it to I'd like his bow to have more weight and more motion against the enemy like when enemy gets hit with the bow I don't want the mechanics to be standing there and I'm sort of hitting through them and it's accumulating damage opposed to them like
Starting point is 01:08:04 well it was more of a stun it was more of a stun mechanic than anything yeah I want to people like opposed to when Kratos takes his hand he starts his hands you see them not as much as I would want them to but there's literal movement they get knocked to
Starting point is 01:08:16 fro and I like that idea like that idea if they hate there's a there's a there's someone's no it's it's not as much as I'd like it to be right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah totally totally you know yeah whether it just be like more impact upon like the parts of the body but that's also a lot of fucking work to ask a fucking game company that is very that's a lot of work that's a lot of work you know I'd like to see stuff like that they haven't missed with the combat at all like that's for sure they haven't missed like some people would maybe still desire more but I would say overall I think it's over overall overall overall overwhelmingly it's some people are like this is cool i would yeah uh-huh and i have nipicks of it
Starting point is 01:08:51 yeah exactly there's nip i have nipicks of it too because i came from the greek saga where there's infinity billion weapons and i i actually like variety and and um you would kind of some people would start mastering other things and showing me other things it basically showed me some of the genius within like i didn't understand how to use this one weapon so i abandoned it and then showing other people that figured it out and I'm like that's fucking cool. Like I don't know there's tech in the game. You know, there's more there's more going on.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And so less weapons, less variety is, I think less of anything a lot of times is never really great. But I still like, I think having three weapons in the second one was cool. I actually started liking the dropping your spear a lot. I like dropping your lot. That's true. That's true. That's true is cool.
Starting point is 01:09:36 But I like it also, it's a wind base weapon, which I'm always a big fan of. I like electric go on wind base weapons. I think ice being cool because it slows people down. But fire is like done too often for me personally. It's the element. You're gonna, you're gonna do the element. Yeah. It's the most,
Starting point is 01:09:50 it's the most common element weapon. Everything is always fire. And I think the idea of hitting somebody and turning a tornado into the ground is like, that's fucking sick. You know, I thought was cool was, um, when,
Starting point is 01:10:04 uh, infamous they did that PS4 game and your powers were like video and like, I thought that was cool. People that liked that game didn't like that though. I love, I thought it was I thought that was cool as far. It's like,
Starting point is 01:10:15 oh, that's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, oh, electric. Electricity again.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah. Yeah. It's like, this is a cool. It's a cool day. That game was like, made. It was fine.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Like story wise. Like who gives shit. Yeah. But, um, I think that's like, sorry. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Sorry. Well, just like the, the, the types of powers. Like, I think it was like concrete, concrete video,
Starting point is 01:10:34 smoke and then something. Neon. Neon. Yeah, neon was dope as fuck what a dope idea like what a weird like somebody was just like yeah whatever you tell us there's a bunch of developers just being like yeah that's cool throw it in but um yeah i don't know man i think it'll be good i'm excited for it i don't know if there's
Starting point is 01:10:52 that much more to say about it i just think i just think that style of game is kind of falling out of favor it's not as new so people are a little bit more critical of it i do think there's obvious freaks who hate it for really stupid reasons yeah um but it'll probably be I have no reason to believe it's not going to be at minimum good. It might not be amazing, but I think it'll be a good game. It's going to be good just as if it's like the new games they've been mostly. I have not played. I've played them like twice and then I just had no desire to go back to it.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And that kind of makes me sad because like I said, Kratos is one of my favorite characters of all time. So not wanting to play through those games again. I remember the second time I played through. the Ragnarok, I gave Jojo the controller to go through the Ironwood Forest again or the do the Yotenheim section because I'm like, this shit sucks. It's a nightmare.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It's so funny too because like sometimes things you don't like the second time are better because you at least know what to expect. Yeah. Like I actually thought about that during like when I first saw the hateful aid, I didn't like it. Like I didn't like the hateful eight. Oh really? I started with you.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah. Because I remember just being like, I just remember feeling like, man, this was long and slow. and it kind of spent the whole time in this one space and I was looking for a Tarantino movie you know what I mean? They're going around, they're doing all sorts of weird shit.
Starting point is 01:12:15 But then I saw it again and I was like, oh, I like this more now because I just, I know what this is going to be. I'm not going in with the expectation of like it's going to be like a, you know, a location trotting kind of adventure that's like really fast. And like even though it's slow, I know how much, I know how much there is left at any given point in the movie.
Starting point is 01:12:35 and so I was just like, oh, okay, so it's actually not that. And I ended up really liking it after that. But like, that Ironwood Forest is the exact opposite. I know what I know that game, that game, I actually like that game overall, but knowing that that section is in there specifically makes me not want to play it again. Yeah. Because I know I'll get to that section and I know I'm just going to be like, I'm not going through this again.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. There's like, I'm not going through it again. In the Souls games, there's always a section that you're like, ugh. But like, you kind of figure out ways to cheese these sections or there's stuff. You figure out strats to where you can deal with like these really punishing areas. And there's nothing you can do about this section. There's nothing. You just have to go through it.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And you're like, bro, this is so slow. Holy fuck. Yo, this is balls and piss. It's a distinct. It's distinct because like I'm playing James Bond again. right now. Oh. Like I'm,
Starting point is 01:13:36 I'm a replaying. It's like, I was just like, I really loved it. Because there's a lot of shit you can do differently. Okay. I mean,
Starting point is 01:13:42 like, you can sneak around. You could like fuck everybody up. And it's one of those, it's one of those, you can't, I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:51 well, now we're talking. He'd be fucking. But, uh, it's not RPG fucking, you know, where you choose.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Oh, I was about to go fire up some hard module quick. That's about to be lame. He's going to choose who you have sex. He has to fuck everybody. He does. James Bond. He is James Bond.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Can I fuck the men? Is that like on the board? No, that's distinctly gay and not James Bond. I want fucking, I want him to have sex with trans men or something. Do you remember when they were trying to do with the, the, just Elvis James Bond?
Starting point is 01:14:20 Oh, yeah. I thought that would have been cool. I would have been completely fine with that because I remember some of them. They were trying to pretend like I wasn't about race at all. They were like, oh, he's supposed to be British. I'm like, well, he is.
Starting point is 01:14:33 What are you fucking say? And then I'm like, first of all, if you think his Walsalsals will be British, then, so you don't like Sean Connery then? Fuck you. Yeah. The thing to me, liar. I'm pretty new to James Bond. I've only played the game. I've only played the game and I've only watched Casino Royale.
Starting point is 01:14:50 So I don't know, I don't know much about James Bond. Sure. If James Bond, and I used to think this, and I don't even know if this is true or not because I've only seen one movie, if James Bond is a mantle. You know what I mean? that people take up, whereas it's just like a bunch of people have been James Bond like canonically, not like literally in the real world, which is true, obviously.
Starting point is 01:15:12 But like other people go by James Bond. I don't give a shit like what? Who gives, who cares? Yeah, it wouldn't bother me. If the codename is 007 and James Bond is actually like a character, I'd be like, that's a little funny. I still don't think it would matter that much. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Christopher, you're what we call technically not a bigot. right. So you don't care. Right. What do you mean? These people, they care too much, Chris. So for them, you're betraying them by being like, oh, you want James Bond to be a Negro.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Well, might as well set the city on fire then. I do think, I do think a level of it is just base level, uh, over protection. Because like when Daniel Craig got the role, people freaked out about him for fucking years. Like, and they, like, they were fucking angry at him. Were they? He literally, like I was looking up and it's like, yeah, he had to like, it was a big enough deal for Daniel Craig that he like spoke about it in like 2005 or whatever. So like in 2005 internet, people were like we can't have a fucking blue eyed, blonde hair James Bond. If I'm being, that's real. I'm being very pretty honest. Freaking out of that. I'm a pretty decently big James Bond fan. Yeah. My grandmother and me and my grandma would watch it together all the time. She loved James Bond. She loved her a sophisticated white man. And I. And I. inherited it. Daniel Craig was not problematic at all being James Bond because the monocry not to sane people.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Yeah, I didn't even hear that discourse at the moment. The moment. He talked about it specifically, which is like, oh, that's so fascinating. Like, I mean, I guess he would know more than anybody. He's the center of, he's the center of universe. He's the center of the discourse on that. But like, yeah, people were, there were articles about it. There was a, dude, there was a, a website called Craig not Bond.
Starting point is 01:17:02 dot com. Like that, I'm not even joking. I wonder if it's still up. There's no way. That would be so insane. After all this, after Casino Royale especially,
Starting point is 01:17:12 like what do you mean? That's crazy. It's just so absurd to me. It's like, what? This really bothers you? Like, just this character exists.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Like, I don't know, man. I guess I'm more healthfully socialized than they are because for me it's like that's just a guy being a person. Yeah. I think they've,
Starting point is 01:17:32 I think they've, I think they've, the URL because now it's literally just an advertising site for James Bond for Daniel Craig's James Bond. Oh, that's funny. That's awesome. I mean, somebody still has it open. That's funny. Like someone's still paying for that for that domain. That's funny. Yeah, for the domain. That's so, that is actually awesome. But yeah, I don't know. That's the weird. That's weird. But yeah, if we, but we all, we all have to remember. And I think, um, we sometimes we forget that fandom.
Starting point is 01:18:04 are insane. So when you think about anything, like, geez, you'll find that same level of bullshit where I just found it about that Daniel Craig shit and there is probably way worse things. I can't think of anything on top of my head because I don't fucking care. But, you know, it's fucking, you know, it's all over the place.
Starting point is 01:18:24 You know what happens. Oh, like, I even imagine the discourse when old school, old Cratos popped up was probably a problem. like just him being an old man or something or sure not there was probably some issues I didn't see it but I imagine there was what the fuck are you doing you're making crados or what is you know you're making young hot and sexy there's a difference between
Starting point is 01:18:47 um I think healthy and reasonable skepticism and whatever goes on on the internet you know what I mean because I because dude when they announced that they were doing God of war again and they were doing like oh he's going to be raising his son and it's going to be sad. I remember being like, well, it doesn't sound cool at all. I don't fucking know about this. This sounds lame as hell. And then it came out and I was like, okay, this was lame as hell, but I liked it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:13 And that's the thing that like, if you ask old school God of War fans, there's a lot of people that will try to poo with them. But like, on the real, though, it's like, if you had the choice between dad of war or like, say, a little bit younger Cratos, or say there's so much. many years that were skipped in between. They made a lot of games. Kid Cratos. Like, Catoos is crits. No. Well, we actually got that. We got that. We got that. And I'm a side scroller. And everyone that I trust was like, don't buy this. No. And I will not. It was not worth the money. I could say that as someone who played the game. It was not worth the money. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't worth the money. It really is exploring Cratos as a child is like explaining, it's like exploring
Starting point is 01:19:56 Spider-Man as a three-year-old. Who gives you shit? I don't know. Who gives a shit about Peter Parker when he's four years old at like Ben and Jerry's with his mom and dad doing nothing? Particularly, right? So in particular, what happens is that in God of War, you know, you learn about Cratos as a kid. That is a part of his story. Actually, the part of his, technically, if you care, the beginning of his story does matter quite a bit. If you care about the lore, the shit that like Derek, Derek care.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Like Derek would care. There's things. But you already know that story. You already know that story. I don't care about the relationship between his brother, Demos. As a kid, what I'm more concerned about is exploring his time and Tartarus because he's been chained up. They, they, in Ghost of Sparta, which is a fucking great game. I wish that they would get one of the PSP ones.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Ghost of Sparta is really good. Oh, you like Ghost a lot? I like that a lot, actually. I don't hate Ghost of Sparta, but that's the one I didn't really pay a lot of attention to. For a PSP game, those games are kind of amazing. Yeah. Like, um, is that the one where he's just push, push Penelope away? No, that's that one.
Starting point is 01:21:08 That's the other one. That's chains. That's Chains in the Sparta. That's Chains of Chains. That's funny as fuck. I was telling my mom almost beat Chains and I still don't believe her. I don't even know how she got to, she got to, um, the final boss. What was her name, uh, Persephone?
Starting point is 01:21:22 And I was like, how did the, how the, I don't even understand how she got there. It doesn't make sense to me. The PSP is an amazing machine, man. The fact that, because that was, that was straight up PS2 quality shit. Yeah. It was like, it was a little bit less, but it was just, it was pretty much on the border. Well, it was, I should say it's early PS2. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:21:41 That's fair to say. Which is still, which is still crazy to me because it's just like, what do you mean like? Because you think about like the Nintendo handhelds that were out around the GameCube, you know what I mean? It was like the Game Boy Advance. You can put it to the GameCube and you're like, well, what the fuck are we doing? Right. The PSP to the PS2 is actually like It is insane
Starting point is 01:22:00 Like I remember Spider-Man 2 on the PSP Was not the Spider-Man 2 on the PS2 But it was like a re-skin Of Spider-Man 1 on the PS2 Which was still kind of like How are you getting this running in your pot? Like it's crazy Like it is insane
Starting point is 01:22:16 But yeah I don't know Got a war Got a war loud gay Laugay I do think the name is bad though I think they're on drugs. Yeah, I think there could have been a more interesting name chosen. I get that it's a game about Faye.
Starting point is 01:22:36 But like, I actually, when I saw the name, I was like, what is that? And it's like, oh, is that her, like, full name? Because I only know her as Faye. I totally forgot that her full name was La Faye. So I was like, okay. It also just aesthetically doesn't look very pleasing as a title. Like, I don't know. These are really.
Starting point is 01:22:54 That word is, it's a, it's a, a very Scandinavian word, so it's going to sound stupid to us. Right, but it's also just not I don't know. I just think there was there was definitely a better name. They definitely missed. In my opinion. I don't know what it would have been. If you're trying to
Starting point is 01:23:09 grip other people, like say, because from my perspective, I think like the cube is trying to rope in certain other types of demographic of gamers. Because I'm like, that's why you would put in that some stupid shit like that. And so also, I would want the title. I don't know. I would
Starting point is 01:23:25 want the title to try to grip other people to you. This just feels kind of like, I'm confused. What the fuck? Like, what the fuck? Like, I would be like, what, I'm trying to think of it as someone who's not paying attention of this. I'd be like, that is a title. It would have sounded better. It's a title that is geared towards the people who already know absolutely everything
Starting point is 01:23:44 that's going on with God of War, which to me is like, I don't know if that's smart really. I think, um, I don't know. I, I feel like it'd be like, I don't know. There was just a better name. Somewhere. Also looking at the art styles, like, bro, that's, I mean, not the art styles, the cover that they're using right now where I'm like, oh, there's Faye.
Starting point is 01:24:03 It looks like, there's the fucking cube. Can I say this too also? Like, uh, at a glance, that cover looks like Horizon. I was going to say, I was going to say that it looks way too similar. I don't think I saw it. Let me look at the cover. It looks way too similar. The cover looks straight up.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Like if I saw it at a glance, I would think it's a Horizon game. Oh. really? I wouldn't, that's not a it's definitely not, I might not be the place to land it. Marketing, they kind of, that's weird. It's a weird choice, but I think they're also banking on that like,
Starting point is 01:24:38 oh, they know they know they got my money. You know, like, and that's the thing that sucks. They know they have my money. So they can do dumb shit like this. They can put in a fucking dumb cube and Disneyfy some of the stuff because they know I'm going to play it regardless.
Starting point is 01:24:55 It's not like putting in sprinkling little dumb things is going to be a make or break. So they can take liberties and experiment with shit like that. You know, that's a me problem, though. Like that affects me because I, you know, I'm not, I'm not a Disney adult. I'm not a fucking, you know, I don't think a gelatinous cute bouncing everywhere is fucking cute. That's unfortunate. Also, also, I do want to say this is the last thing we'll say and then we'll move on to questions. We got a lot of questions from our patrons over at patreon.com.
Starting point is 01:25:25 a Star Tank and you can go in. This is a very video game centric episode. Why not? Hope you appreciate it. But one thing I did notice, and I don't know if this is me being a stickler. Very well could be. But for a god of war game,
Starting point is 01:25:44 remarkably nonviolent. Oh. You know what I mean? Sure. Like, I don't know. I mean, they're fighting. But, like, But they're kind of Marvel fighting.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Like, they're not. That's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:26:02 because he wasn't fighting like humanoids. Well, when he's fighting like, right. Well, he's not fighting like, people. Well,
Starting point is 01:26:09 they were like, they were like the, what you call it, you know? Do you only fight, yeah. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I just like, I think, when I think of God of war, I think of, I think of, I think about it in the same way that I think about doom, you know what I mean? Where it's just like,
Starting point is 01:26:22 and so this into, for the first 20 minutes of this game to be kind of like there's really no, I don't know, it's because it's not a big deal, but it's the first 20 minutes of any of the three. It's not be violent because it makes it feel like to me like they're sanding down the edges of it. And I just don't think that's,
Starting point is 01:26:38 it's weird. It's as violent as of the three of other two. I don't. In the first 20 minutes at least. So it is the first 20 minutes also. Like who the fuck? It could be crazy gruesome. Like I just,
Starting point is 01:26:51 I guess I'll wait till like. I play the whole game. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. It is just weird because I'm just so. If I had to bet my money. If I had to bet my money on like what Chris is saying, it will,
Starting point is 01:27:03 it will, I don't, they may not or may, like this you might surprise us, but probably, especially a lot of the R3 finishes and stuff like that, they're probably not going to be as gruesome as Credos, but also it feels,
Starting point is 01:27:16 it feels like it's been like compared to the old games. Because the old games, he was still fighting a lot of like, dragger type things, like undead, things and a lot of creatures but like there was blood and it was
Starting point is 01:27:28 way more like when you're fighting a cyclops and ripping its fucking eye out or something like that and when you fight like a big troll or whatever in these new games it's still like oh you'll crush them with its big stone thing but then it just disappears there's no actual splash or blood damage it's very it's been toned down
Starting point is 01:27:45 and yeah and I got to say more toned down with something like Doom 2016 and beyond existing as a god of fan. I was like, well, fuck, we could have had this. You know, like, there was no reason to not do this. You, you could, we could have had, we could have had a little bit of both. You know what's real, really true?
Starting point is 01:28:05 It's like, I don't think I would have noticed if Wolverine at the beginning wasn't so violent. You know what I? Like, Wolverine is so violent. And I understand that it has to be because it's Wolverine. Yeah, those claws. But I also think, but at the same time, I think about like God of War has always been a rated M show. or rated M series. Wolverine's been on fucking Fox for kids.
Starting point is 01:28:29 They've done it. So why is God of War less, you know what I don't know? It's just like, there's like a math equation there that doesn't quite compute to me. Especially God of War III. God of War III,
Starting point is 01:28:38 which is my favorite game in the series. Yeah, it's just blood soaked after every battle. The way that he like finishes off a lot of the, the animations, the, like a lot of the stuff is very nice, very cool
Starting point is 01:28:53 you kind of feel like Cratos is a very angry person that can't be stopped and it's very fun and that's kind of the thing at the end of the day it's just about a video game I care less about like say I know that's so narrative driven now
Starting point is 01:29:09 and when it comes to gaming I care less about that I kind of want like I want there to be more of a focus on say I could understand what somebody is doing through the fluid fluidity of their movement or the lack of whatever's happening. Like sometimes even when there's a scenes where
Starting point is 01:29:26 Cretus is like defeated, it's happened in two games where he's just barely moving around or he's like he's almost dead and he can barely fucking do anything. And I'm like, cool, this explains everything to me. I like there's telling the story through this combat. And now shit's kind of bloated. It's long. It's more like a movie.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And there's a lot of people that love it. It's not necessarily for me. That's why I can only play one or two times. It's heading in a direction. that I don't love and you just get to a point where it's like, well, it may not just be for me that much anymore. And that's it. I don't need to, you know, cry about it. It just be like, okay, you know, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Yeah. All right. Let's move on to some questions from our patrons over at patreon.com slash a snartank. Remember, you can go over there. You can ask your questions. A dollar gets you in, early access ad free. So no ads for a, for a fucking dollar. Can you, boy?
Starting point is 01:30:21 it. They're fucking vacuuming again. Oh, yeah? What is, I don't understand these people. It's like they hear you. They hear you like, we're going to read the question. Rev that slut up. Reve up those vacuums.
Starting point is 01:30:38 So Robert Downey Gooner wrote in. I love it. Love that. He says, best, what are the, well, he says, best mechanics in a bad game, bad mechanics in a good game. So I guess it's just like a, I guess he's framing these in the, in the form of a question. Ooh,
Starting point is 01:30:56 I have some good answers. I don't know about bad mechanics in a good game. I have one for that, for sure. I have one for that. Oh, really? Like, all right,
Starting point is 01:31:03 you go. Um, I just, so I didn't finish sleeping dogs because of the fucking driving mechanics. I couldn't stand them. Oh. They were that bad for me.
Starting point is 01:31:12 It feels like driving a boat or something. I, I hate it deeply. And you had to do some racing. You probably have to drive a lot too, right? Yeah. There's a lot. a lot of driving, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Because it's kind of like a sandbox type shit, you know, GTA shit. Yeah. And I was like, damn, I hate the driving so much that I put it down, dude. And that game was really fucking fun.
Starting point is 01:31:32 That game was really fun. The game is good. It's really fun. So it's a really unfortunate thing for me, a little autistic, I think for me, where I was like, damn,
Starting point is 01:31:40 I didn't finish it. And I think about that. That is a good video game. Yeah. I want, I should, I want to try it again. I say,
Starting point is 01:31:48 like, I want to try it again, but then like, same thing's going to happen to me. So I'm like whatever There's some hyper violent parts of that game There's some parts of that game that are like Holy shit
Starting point is 01:31:58 I guess are they forced or is that like something that you just choose I mean there no there's just it's just a sequence of the story Like there's one point where he closed the door through a guy's head It's like what the shit dude through his head that's crazy And there's like because it's like you're supposed to be like there's like It's like a Chinese mafia like fighting shit so like there's a moment where it's like You guys are fighting each other like a fucking like a ring on top of a building.
Starting point is 01:32:23 And it's like, uh, this is gonna end badly and it ends as bad as you think it is. And I'm like, this game is kind of awesome. Yeah. I'm motherfucking white shen, bitch. Bad mechanics in a good game. I don't know if I, I'm sure I have, I'm sure, God, nothing to come into mind, but I'm sure there's so many of them.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Best mechanics in a bad game, though. The one that comes to mind is 2009. In 2009, Capcom came out with a game. like a reboot of Bionic Commando. It was like a gritty, third person shooter version of Bionic Commando, and it was like edgy,
Starting point is 01:33:00 and it was like grim, dark. It was very, you know, by the numbers or whatever. This was in the Crapcom time, when Capcom was just, post,
Starting point is 01:33:10 uh, street fighter for you. Yeah, they were just like, they were not doing well. Everybody was just kind of assuming that they were just going to fucking die at some point. And they came,
Starting point is 01:33:19 I don't remember what, I guess it was Resident Evil 7, right? Seven, seven. And I guess, and I guess probably a little bit of, it's either that or the Monster Hunter that came out around that time. Like, I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Rise. Not Rise. It was something. A world was in like, what, 2016? Maybe. Yeah, World got a lot of energy back in there. So it was Monster Hunter and Resident Evil brought them back. But like, for a while,
Starting point is 01:33:44 Capcom was like, it was very iffy. You know, if you got a Capcom game. This was, one of them. It was by out of commando and it was just, it was just not very good. It was just very bland and boring and the story was just very whatever and the combat was fine, but it wasn't really anything to ride home about. But it's bionicamando, so it had a grappling hook. And the grappling hook in that game is so cool. It is genuinely one of the coolest grappling hooks ever. It's so satisfying. You can like grapple onto cars and throw them. You can grapple on to people
Starting point is 01:34:15 and zip onto them and kick them into the fucking stratosphere. You can, and it had a multiplayer mode too, where you could like, you could do this with other people. And it was, and you could, and you could grapple onto weapons and stuff like that. So you could like grapple onto a weapon and like take it before somebody got to it or like shoot them with it or like you could zip onto somebody and kick them and do damage to them.
Starting point is 01:34:35 You could also latch onto your other, like you could swing off of your friends who were also swinging. So it was just like a very like mechanically, it was just like this is. And the physics of it were cool. It was just like it was very, it was so much better than the rest. of the game that it's like, damn, dude, this could have been really cool if you just spent more
Starting point is 01:34:56 time figuring it. It was a bunch of people who really knew how to make grappling hooks and did not know how to make a good game. You know what I mean? They really understand how to make grabick goes cool. They were like, I don't know what the fuck game design is. I'm being honest. I'm just, I'm here for vibes. Yeah, I really put it up there because it was just like, it was, it was, it was, it was, like, that multiplayer was like Spider-Man Halo. It was very weird. Yeah. And it was so cool. of a game that like rings that bell for me where it's like this game mechanically is good but it's a bad game
Starting point is 01:35:25 Anthem had Anthem had great flying. The flying felt good it did. That's all Anthem was though you know. But it was just like you also like you couldn't proceed without doing the thing you had to do so it's like you kind of eventually had to go back if you're in trouble you would
Starting point is 01:35:41 leave but then you have to come back that's true. So it was but yeah the flying felt fun. I did I tried it, I think again before the, I think they took the servers offline. I tried it again and I was just like, there was like three people in the game.
Starting point is 01:35:58 If that. It was just like, I was like, man, this could have been cool at some point or something. Fuck. You know, another good game, bad mechanics. Shit, we were just talking about it at a, at a Nicky's house. We were talking about Emmy Mass Effect One
Starting point is 01:36:18 where like that shit just it's so funny talking to people's experience of that playing the original i've never experienced it man i'm so ignorant of that like you guys bring that up and i'm like i guess it worked pretty well for me the maco was so bad ooh like the maco was so unbelievably think about this they got rid of it for it was so bad that they put the hammerhead in in the number two Derek and Chris, I don't know. I actually don't believe you should. Just just for just for experimentation's sake, you should. I don't even think you have to play all of it, right?
Starting point is 01:36:59 But you should play a little bit of the original Mass Effect on the original hardware just to get a sense of like what people were playing. Yeah. It is insane. And I don't think I want to. You do. You should have a curiosity. Like I think it'll be a fun because I don't know. video out of it. That game is so, that game is so awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Like I, look, I understand I enjoy the RPG of Mass Effect One more than I enjoy Mass Effect too. I like it. Well, it's also, it's a, there is way more RPG elements. And I remember seeing somebody talk about, um, they were saying that like, Emmy one's the best one. And I was saying, if all you care about is the RPG and the story itself, then I understand what you're saying. But because everything else is better in two. Everything. Like, everything else is better than two.
Starting point is 01:37:49 But if you get, because like number two is not a story, really. It's the most boring fucking, oh, these trash collectors, stop them. That's literally the entire plot. It's boring.
Starting point is 01:38:01 But then you, it's more of a, it is more of a, it is weird. Like, I found that more immersive, though, because it is you just living your,
Starting point is 01:38:08 it is just being alive in space. You know what I mean? It is literally a role playing game. in comparison to the first game, which is more like, it's a set path and it's, there's an adventure that you're going on. For,
Starting point is 01:38:19 one is a narrative that you experience. Two is repairing that team you lost effective, making your new team. It's a fucking friend collector. And it's, it's, I mean, look,
Starting point is 01:38:29 dude, it's Pokemon. I'm a, I'm an RPG. I'm not going to be mad at like that experience. I had a good time playing it. It's, but I also understand is like,
Starting point is 01:38:39 this is less of us narrative experience compared to this. other game, but I still really like this game. It's great. It's like they're all, if the characters were dog shit, that game would have failed. That's the thing. That's how much the story surrounds
Starting point is 01:38:55 your companions and their loyalty missions. And if the character sucks like say Jacob Taylor is one of the most boring characters in that arguably actually probably the boring, most boring. But his loyalty mission is great. He does have a great loyalty. It's way
Starting point is 01:39:11 better than it has any right to be. how much of a lame bitch-ass dad that sucks cock I think you know I have a theory that they put him in on purpose and made him boring on purpose just for that great mission no just well for the great mission but also to make everyone
Starting point is 01:39:27 way better to really show more interesting by comparison like it's kind of like because they can make interesting characters and they can and they know how to make his loyalty mission great so clearly they could have right you know what I mean but like they just didn't and I wonder if
Starting point is 01:39:43 it's like this the first character you meet. You're probably more interested in Shepard at this point because you've been reassembled. Let's not try to... He comes in so immediately. He's like the first person you meet basically. And so I wonder if they're like, we should tone this character down because like people playing right now are probably more focused on their situation as Shepard than they
Starting point is 01:40:04 are on like any other character. Like they'll meet people later when they get their bearings. And then they went back and just like, oh, we just forgot about Jacob. Let's leave it. That's an interesting theory. And hey, why not? You know? That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Yeah, that doesn't not make sense. You know, it's funny, I googled worst games with good mechanics. The first video that pops up is one week ago, Razbuten, a YouTube channel. And I click on it, and the thumbnail is Bionicamando. Oh, it's funny. So I bet he's talking about that grabby. I'm telling you, man. You're not alone, Chris.
Starting point is 01:40:41 You're not alone. Your perspective of that is not. Oh, he brings up, he brings up fracture also. Fracture is another one where like, did you ever play Fracture? Do you know what Fracture is? No. Fracture was like, it was like a third person shooter where the whole point was like, um, uh, you could raise and lower the terrain. Ooh, that sounds interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:00 And so the idea was like, you could control combat by like giving your, like, creating sight lines and reducing enemy sight lines. And like, you could basically create a corridor, let, leave, leading to one guy, so he had no... But the shooting sucked. So, like, everything... Like, it was interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:18 But, like, it was just... There's nothing. There's nothing else to it, other than, like, raise ground, lower ground, die. And it's just like, damn, dude. This could have been part of something that was interesting, but...
Starting point is 01:41:28 I really can't think of a game where I share that opinion. I feel like most games... I don't know. I'm really puzzled by, like, a game I'm thinking of it's like, this game had really good mechanics. But, like,
Starting point is 01:41:38 it just was complete dog should never the way and I'm just I got to I got to be honest if if if the veil guard did not have any attachment to Dragon Age if it was something just like here's a fucking fantasy game and an action adventure game where you can fuck some people up
Starting point is 01:42:01 I didn't I didn't not I didn't I thought that shit was fine I actually I there was a lot of like I actually if it was if it was like a a double a indie studio that did that would be like this is fucking cool man like this is this is really cool that actually drag the air guard is dragon age of elgard is your halo four I think yeah actually I thought about the same way I thought
Starting point is 01:42:26 about the same way where I'm like this is functional and and fine and fun I hate this this is not what this is supposed to be at all right right yeah I don't know I like the 360 era is full of games like these like I think about like wanted weapons of fate you ever play wanted the video game I played wanted a lot of the fate yes I did dude I'm telling you man curving the bullet into people's heads was satisfying
Starting point is 01:42:49 I love how it became first person bullet or it became third person bullet technically well the thing was like you held the right bumper and then you you could arc the bullet and it was it would show like a like an arc and you sometimes you could get it directly vertical and you shoot people down their fucking you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:43:07 you could thunder strike people with bullets. You can photograph people with bullets. It was just like, this is so, this is, this is a satisfying thing. That does sound cool. But I don't care about wanted weapons of fate. I don't care about these characters. I don't care about this world at all.
Starting point is 01:43:23 The movement sucks. It only works when you're standing still and curving a bullet into a stationary target. That's the only time it ever works. I don't know. I'm trying to think. Let me go through my steam. There has to be one where I'm like, I'm telling you, the 360 era is like, like, gold mine for these. That era of video games, that was when games got expensive enough to have like a lot of
Starting point is 01:43:43 resources put into them, but not so much that they were like well funded. So it's just like a lot of really half baked kind of decent ideas. Yeah. That just what's crazy is that's my that's my least, that's my least in-depth game era because of the fact that that period of time, it was very much so like if you weren't a big gamer, you were just following the trends of playing cod, playing hey, like you, it was very much so like you followed the wave of video games, at least for me in that period of time.
Starting point is 01:44:14 I was not really like out there exploring games. I played like my RPGs and I played like my like the most out there game I played with the time was Origins. And I was like, I can't believe people are not talking about. Like I played that game and I was like, why is no one talking about this game?
Starting point is 01:44:28 It's so good, but I never saw anyone talking about it, dude. I felt like I was going crazy. I was like, why is no one talking about this game? I, uh, that is funny because I, I kind of ran into that same thing. It wasn't,
Starting point is 01:44:41 um, it honestly, I think it might have been the combat. I think, even mass effect. I thought people weren't talking about mass effect outside of the sphere of like that. Because I,
Starting point is 01:44:50 mass effect is a little more sci-fi than my, than my typical brain liked at that time, especially. But I'm, I played the mass effect like, uh, demo for like mass effect maybe two or one. And this shit just kind of looks stupid.
Starting point is 01:45:04 And I was like comparing a shooting mechanics to Halo at the time, which is really stupid. but I was fucking... I did the same thing. I was young. Around that time, I was like, I played Massifax one in that while I was playing Gears of War and I was like, why the fuck when I played Mass Effect? And it's, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:45:21 It felt stupid. If you're just, if you're just experiencing it from that angle, you're like, yo, this is fucking trash. Yeah, if you're like, oh, yeah. This is balls and penis. That's, yeah, that totally makes sense. So I was like comparing it to that a lot and I was like, what the fuck's going on. Now that I look back and I didn't play Mass Effect, I feel genuinely angry.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Well, you're better off. That I did not experience that game because I'm like, oh my God, I could have been really into this. Because what makes it crazy is that it's the fucking Cotor people too. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fucking, what was I doing? This is literally for me. And I just didn't play it. And then you guys make me play it when I get older. I'm like, yo, I'm a fool. Yeah, there's a lot of people. I must out of what could have been one of my favorite video games. There's a lot of people that, um, I mean, it happens, man. Like it's, there are so many games, even. now that I'm I I've still
Starting point is 01:46:09 haven't there's just too much shit coming out and I'm in a different part of my life to where I don't want to sink too much time into something but like the more that I look at people playing what's that a crimson desert the more I'm like I know I'm gonna enjoy this it almost got me a few times too it just cost too much right now yeah I'm still
Starting point is 01:46:28 like I'm like I flirt with the idea of like this game looks like a game I can play in sync hours I know I'm oh this is the thing that I saw come up where people were talking about James Bond and so it's like it's a game that you can beat in 17 hours
Starting point is 01:46:47 to 100% it would take some time but like you can beat it in 17 hours and people are like I'm not paying $70 for a game that you could beat in 17 hours and I kind of don't understand that at all I get it I get it like I kind of don't get it I get it because people it's money man
Starting point is 01:47:03 it's hard times well I understand it from that angle because the economy's bad had and like $70 is money. But like I mean from like a holistic angle from like the idea of just like $70 is like like the idea is like you're taking video games and doing them by like a dollar per hour kind of valuation. And I kind of just don't understand that because they're inherently replayable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:27 At least most of the time like things that I do think like God of War and things like that probably aren't as replayable as like other things. But like James God is very replayable in my opinion. Like and so I'm just like I don't really understand. understand that aspect of it, especially because people pay $23 to go see a fucking two-hour movie. Or like they pay $40 to go to an escape room for 40 minutes. Yeah. I just, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Yeah. I don't get it. It's not the target demographic anymore because of the fact that like this, the shit like that. I'm just like, for me, the experience, the experience for me, I lived a blessed life where I can afford it to. Sure. The experience for me matters the most out of things. Right. So for me, if I'm getting a game that's going to be like,
Starting point is 01:48:07 I would have paid $40 to $50 or $6 long. I would have paid that. But I understand how people don't want to pay that because of the fact that that's a lot of money. Right. You know, I get it. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:18 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I just, yeah, my, my brain doesn't like the 70 tag just because I just of how I grew up. It's money. It's not nothing. Yeah. However, yeah, quality, to me, how much do I really like something? Because I do, I absolutely will pay for something that I truly, if I really want this, you know, like to me, that that price tag will be worth it.
Starting point is 01:48:41 It's not about the amount of hours of sink into it. Like you said, a movie or something like that. I'm like, how much that is really affect me? And people are saying really great things about it. And also, when you talk about 17 hours, is that the average playtime? Like, I imagine. Well, it took me about 18 to just rush through it. There's like a, there's also like a separate, like a VR kind of.
Starting point is 01:49:10 There's like a training, not a training mode, but like a like a pure gameplay oriented mode. That's not the story, but it's just like the sections that you can just like, there's like time challenges and time trials and stuff like that. I think you can get a lot of stuff to do in it. But like, yeah, I don't know. Because I was doing the math on it just because I was, I was curious. Dude, do you know, you know ET for the Atari, right? Like the game that was so famously bad that like they buried like thousands of copies and like land. Is that real? Is that actually what happened? That is actually straight up real, actually for real.
Starting point is 01:49:41 That is not. That is a real thing that did happen in 1982, I think. But that game cost $40 in $1982 money. Do you know how much that is now? Let me guess like $6.65. Bro. Like $65, right? That's like $112 to $130. That is notter butters. That is notter butters. People were paying a hundred plus dollars for fucking E.T. And so to me, I'm like, $70 for James Bond seems fine. Like, I get that it's still a lot, especially now that everybody's suffering because
Starting point is 01:50:22 because the people who run this, run this world are retarded benefiles. But outside of that, like, holistically, just on its own, I can't earnestly feel like, we're getting ripped off even at full price these days. We're technically. I get that it's a lot. We're technically not. Technically not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:42 It's weird to how it used to be. I can't believe. If I bought, if I spent $110 on Atari, I would have probably shot myself in the 80s. I probably, I don't even know how like you would get over. You've swallowed your gun.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Oh yeah. I would have swallowed my gun and just waited for fate to pull the trigger. You know what I mean? It's like, just do a bunch of, just work out a lot, do a bunch of crunches until like, like maybe the trigger gets that's insane you're just trying to die for real like it it's a challenge
Starting point is 01:51:11 i like that you're in your bedroom trying to kill yourself without taking i think it's something so funny about trying to kill your wanting to die and trying to kill yourself but not just doing it like something about that is comedic where you're just like i don't want to be attached to it well you know what it is it's like um it's like how it's it's like psyching yourself up to go in the pool you know what mean where it's just like sometimes it's like it's hard to get in the pool like you don't want to get that shock i feel you but once you're in the air the decision's done yeah yeah like really like that's that's you jumping off the thing jumping off the thing isn't killing yourself jumping off the thing is setting the motions in place and so it's just like okay now it's just like
Starting point is 01:51:52 now now the world's deciding now now i have no choice anymore i have no choice but to follow through i can't my cowardice won't back me out of this yes too far i've gone too far right Don't swallow your gun if you want to kill yourself, by the way. Yeah. Don't do that. Also, don't kill yourself, probably. Hey, I'm going to go urinate while you guys read this next one. No, no.
Starting point is 01:52:14 I'm going to say, I'm going to go back and say you should probably kill yourself. Oh. But like only only only if. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I'm out of here. Only if you really need to the. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Cowards. Cowards all of you, a lot of you, all of you, cowards. What if I turned my camera back on and I was black? I'd have some questions. I have a few questions, yeah, a few. What would be the first one? What's going on? Nothing much, normal day.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Nothing, this blacking it, you know? Anyway, let's see. Recently, I, okay, Shard of Odium wrote in. He says, recently I created a snark tank level villain, and I wanted your opinion on him. Okay, we'll judge him. We'll repitch it to Derek when he gets back from pissing. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:53:02 But, uh, perfect instinct. cell. That's not bad. Virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin. I think that's kind of gas. I think that's kind of. I think that works fairly well. It doesn't flow off the tongue as a name, but as a concept, I think it's very good.
Starting point is 01:53:23 And I don't think there's really a way to make it flow. So I think it's like it's kind of. That's an impossible. That's an impossible endeavor, you know, for sure. Yeah, there's just like it is, it's good. It's good enough as a premise. to have a name that's not quite great. Yeah, it will get no better than that, you know?
Starting point is 01:53:40 Yeah, there's nothing you can do to fix it. But that's pretty perfect. So he goes around, you figure like, so perfect in cell. What is that? Like, does he, so is imperfect in cell? Exist, yeah. Like, how could that, how could that be? Is that somebody who has had sex?
Starting point is 01:54:00 And as he transforms, he unhas sex? No, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, idea of making the perfect incel. It's an in-cell no matter what, but it's becoming the strong, the most perfect version of being an insul. Okay, like an Elliot Roger kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Not perfect isn't good. I just be perfect as in apex. Like it's like, like the epitome. Right, it's like this is I'm not going to say that. It's like yeah, whatever. That's fine. I'm trying to figure out how this works.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Virgin Virgin. That's gas. That is gas. I like it. We'll repitch it to Derek when he gets back. Perfect. It sells a banger. I think that I have to steal that.
Starting point is 01:54:48 I really must take that. I must. I must take this. I have to steal that. That's insane. Insane how much I'm going to theft that. Jared Fogel isn't allowed near his inner child, Rodin. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:55:06 You imagine that's got to be what that's got to be an interesting. Better safe than sorry. So that's interesting. I've never thought about this because why would anyone? But do do pedophiles think back to their younger selves? Chris, I really don't. I really don't care. I can't even get into this mental tussle with you.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Like I just can't do it. I'm sorry. You got to know these things if you're going to go watch that Chris Hanson movie. I can't be. I can't be involved, man. I'm sorry. I got to go on break. All right,
Starting point is 01:55:52 all right, fine. Jared Fogel isn't allowed near his center child's road. He says, Hey, how many. I simply can't. Derek's returned.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Derek, what do you think about this? This shard of odium wrote in and he said he invented a perfect snark tank level villain. And he wanted our opinion on, he wanted our opinion of him. Sure. Perfect in cell. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Yeah. Oh, that's not bad at all. It's a little jingle. Virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin, ver. It's good. I like it. Wait, virgin. Wait, say it again?
Starting point is 01:56:32 How did it? It's hard. It's hard to. It's drips you up. Virgin, virgin, virgin, virgin. Gin, virgin, virgin, virgin. Okay. Virgin.
Starting point is 01:56:40 You sound like I have an emmer. I hate how hard cells goes, man. It is a great thing. Cell is the enemy for me. Like he felt like a personal enemy to me when I was younger because I loved Gohan. And he was not, he was so arrogant. It made me so mad because Freeza's arrogance kind of gets broken down the moment he meets
Starting point is 01:57:05 Goku or not even really. The whole kind of Frisa saga, they're kind of whooping his ass a little bit. and then he cheats and he transforms. And it's like how he's pushing you to transform. But then Selle is like backdooring people, tricking dumbass niggas like Vigita. And it trunks is like, guys, seriously, no joke. This is going to get worse.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Stop playing with this guy. And no one listens to him. And so he's like, guys, my world is doomed. I came back here as I'm serious. And they're like, let's fight him. I want a good fight. Yeah. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:57:39 Gave him a Sintu bean. Like, I want to get, or Gohan's like, I'm gonna beat you and I pity you. And Strunk's like, do you think that moment would have been better? Shoot him. Shoot him with a gun.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Do you think that moment would have been better if Gohan was a gelatinous cube? I think, I think it would have saved the entire. With the Super Saint two hair. To save the series. Yeah. With SSJ hair with a fucking cube.
Starting point is 01:58:04 That would have been dog shit. Jared Fogle. Jared Fogle. Jared Fogle isn't allowed near his inner child, Rodin. He said, how many jimmies from Ed Nettie would it take to kill Thrag? I'm guessing trillions, man.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I'm being honest with you. How many Eds do you think it could take? I don't think Jimmy's formidable at all. No, but Eds? Oh, Eds? Maybe like... Maybe three. Generally, maybe three.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Maybe three trios of Ededonet. Like three Ededonettys. So nine. So nine. of them two two of each or three of each i guess um three eddies three eds and three eds because the thing about ed is that ed is not powerful if he intends intent is his power is all based on intent you know it's how he feels right if he if he's if it's active if someone's like hey ed lift this wall he can't do it all but if you hide peanut butter behind the wall he could lift a city you know true
Starting point is 01:59:09 It's true, but they all have tune force also, and they're damn near indestructible. Like, the amount of pain that they endure and just shake off is insane. I don't know, man. That's interesting. I don't think Thrag stand. It's just Jimmy, really. Like, he's just like, the issue is, like, Jimmy may be able to endure because he's probably unkillable, like, the rest of those people in that show, because they have tune force. But, like, he poses no threat.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Like, no amount of Jimmy's poses a threat. Like, it's just like. Yeah. So that's the issue. But Ed, I believe in them. I think double D's crafting with,
Starting point is 01:59:48 with Ed's, Ed's sheer lack of morals could really, really turn something up. Yeah. You got a craftsman, a schemer, and the muscle,
Starting point is 01:59:59 you know, in that group. Because I really, I really think, I really, this is not a joke. I really do believe Ed could beat up
Starting point is 02:00:08 like, Superman. Like, I think he could really do some damage to him. I think he's the strongest character in fiction and it's widely understood. It's widely understood. It's widely agreed upon, actually. Like, it's not a, it's not a perspective that's not shared by the vast majority of human beings. Cratos can't beat him. Doom guy can't beat him. Nope. Ain't nobody beaten Ed. I think the idea of the idea of Cratos being forced to the floor by Ed and you do
Starting point is 02:00:39 freeze frame on Crados' face and he's scared. Like you can see him like Yeah, you've never seen him like a frame of him of just like like frightened. Like, oh this might be it. It's crazy because he doesn't have
Starting point is 02:00:55 that moment ever. Even when he's getting his ass beat by his dad, he's like, nah, I'm not afraid. I ain't no bitch. But in this moment it's like no man, he knows. He knows the bell is ringing. You understand. Yeah. There's coming back from a from an ed beating
Starting point is 02:01:11 they just did not you're fucked like he gets hit one to be malformed in such insane profound ways if you get one and he kind of like oh that's it like I'm going I'm going home finally you know Uncana trunk wrote in
Starting point is 02:01:25 says hello three wise men do you guys have any plans for this for this white boy summer personally I'm Jimmy Buffett maxing and enjoying every moment as a fellow white guy I'm giving Derek and Kingston the white boy summer pass enjoy. What is white boy summer exactly? What is that? Uh, this summer white men succeed. What is that? What is that? What is that? What do they do? Like, what is it? I thought it was like,
Starting point is 02:01:49 white men having like, uh, some swag. Yeah. Like just successful white summer. You know, finally, uh, white men, young white men for too long, according to them, have been disrespected because they're not trendsetters. They dress like shit. They're uncool. They're uncool. They're all. always been nerdy like like why and nerdy and i feel like you know they're like we want respect we want the vibes and uh i guess west will white brisk that's what it feels like to me i have no idea what it actually is though yeah i'm not getting man my my Caucasian brother is out here putting in putting in work putting them numbers man so i don't know if that's not how it works for me i think my white boys be i succeeded remember uh chet hanks like it like i think he was doing a whole like
Starting point is 02:02:38 White Boy Summer vibe or something where he was like back when people liked him when he was uh you you just like chet hanks i think he's fine because he kind of switched up and he was like oh he was like i don't know how he is now that now that mag is like associated with like pedophilia now openly was he a maga guy for a minute he was he was he kind of switched it up because he was like first he was like oh uh fuck trump and everything like this and this and that and then he was like oh fuck Biden and blah blah and i was like oh here we go you know he kind of like switched it up word i i never heard of don't know about being a freaking what to call it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:11 I don't know if I would say he was straight up MAGA, but he was definitely flirting with that side. And that he stopped doing the whole like, um, uh, Patoa thing for a bit. And like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:03:22 he was kind of like, I was like, oh, he just seems like he's following, you know, the trends like all the, all the Rogan Spear podcasters. Like they were all,
Starting point is 02:03:29 they all did the same thing. Like, oh, it's cool over here. And I'm like, when the fuck has conservatism been cool? What is happening? Like,
Starting point is 02:03:37 there's always. What are you talking? Oh, yeah, my mistake. My mistake. I forgot that wearing suits and fucking and status quo is always been dope as hell. Like I forgot. Derek, my good friend, being a conservative has always been awesome. I just, it slipped my mind.
Starting point is 02:03:56 I apologize. Have you seen? You must be confused. Have you seen that there's like, I can't remember what this guy's name is like, I mean, this might be wrong. I think his name's Jake Monroe. But he's this goth guy that's like also a white nationalists or like a MAGA. And it's just like it's so stupid. And he's trying to gaslight people.
Starting point is 02:04:20 And there's other people doing this too. They're trying to gaslight people like metal, punk got got. Was was never political. It used to be apolitical. And then it got all woke. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I don't. Goth?
Starting point is 02:04:33 Yeah, all of the stuff. All of the. What? Goth has always been political. brother. What are you talking about? It's all been political. Like, it's, it's not even like, there's people, I've seen people legitimately trying to say like metal used to be fucking apolitical. And I'm like, the original metal band wrote, Warpigs. Like, what do you, like, what, sir, sir, who is telling you this shit? It's just,
Starting point is 02:04:59 it's just perception. Because I don't know, for me. Not, dude, they're being gasoline, dude. Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's how they're perceiving. I guess they're perceiving is that from somebody telling them that it's fucking not true. To look me in my face and tell me that metal has not always been political is a crazy thing. Like what? Rock and roll is literally a political music. Literally. I can't remember who said this.
Starting point is 02:05:23 It might have been, I don't know if it was Tom Arello. I don't remember who said this. Oh, my God. What? No, sorry. Keep going. I just want to forget it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:05:34 I was just real quick. I was just saying that someone said like everything. political, it's either, it is either anti-establishment or your status quo, meaning you're going along with it. So like your apolitical shit is very status quo because you're ignoring all the bullshit that's happening. So it's everything's inherently political. And I was like, that's actually an interesting take that I agree with. Because it is that because in order to be a political, you have to ignore the atrocities of the world. Exactly. And that is a political stance. Yeah. That is very obvious. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Anyone with a fucking mind that it's like oh, yeah, duh. I guess to a lot of people it's not obvious, unfortunately, that like you pretending like this shit's things aren't existing is inherently political. Neutrality means that you don't really care. Right. Which, by the way, I'm neutral on a lot of things that I definitely don't care about. You know, like, that's true. Like, it's fine.
Starting point is 02:06:32 I don't like when people try to like recatigorize it as like, I'm actually neutral because I because I'm smart or because I'm too smart to care like you know what I mean or like I know all these other it's like no you just don't care I know that because I don't about a lot of things yeah yeah this I like I care a little bit about what's going on in Ukraine
Starting point is 02:06:50 but like I don't know what the you know I don't know what the fuck's going on there I think I think there's the difference between being I think the difference between not being informed enough but does your own just your own thing you should inform yourself XYZ I get that there's between that and not caring
Starting point is 02:07:05 that's the thing. I think there's a very big difference, right? If you're going to talk about something, you should at least care enough about it. But if someone brings up like an atrocity, you're being like, I don't care, it's like something's, you're off. That's different, you know? It's like, oh, man, people are dying in the Congo and like, oh, you may not be the most well-verson and understand the idea of the occupation of Congo and acquisition of all the Cobb, the Cobb, the Cobb and stuff there. But for you to be like, oh, I don't care. It's like what you don't care about people suffering? You could be like, I don't have time to involve myself in it, but you know, I've wished them the best. I hope they figure it out. But isn't that just a way of saying you don't care while also trying to seem like you do?
Starting point is 02:07:43 I don't think so. I think it's intent. Because you don't really, like, if you're answering that, if you're, if you're like, there's a bunch of shit happening right now that we don't care about because we don't know about it. And if we do know about it, I'm sure we'll care to some degree, but it's not. It's not going to be like, it's not going to be like, oh my God, I can't eat. today. I can't eat my food because like I just learned about this horrible thing going on in South Sudan. It's the degree. Yeah, it's a degree. Totally. I agree. It's like you can't care about everything. When we talk about like,
Starting point is 02:08:16 but the degree is important to the, uh, I would say apathy is the reason why the world sucks so badly because it's, yeah, it would fix a lot of things if people, for example, the reason why violent revolutions are necessary is because of, apathy because there's not enough people that would want to get involved politically and fix things. And so a small minority group of people need to get violent to get
Starting point is 02:08:43 people's attention for anything to happen. And that sucks. I hate that we live in this fucking world. I don't want to live in this world. I don't want to live in a world where it's like, oh, we see United Healthcare CEO gets blasted. I feel like people should care more so this shit couldn't happen.
Starting point is 02:08:59 The fucking United Healthcare couldn't exist in the way that it does. people cared, but it just to the point where people get driven to the point where they have to do something about it. And then, and then people will just be like, oh, violence is always wrong. I'm like, but it's not. It's not in this situation because you don't care. It's the same thing as like this, right? Like somebody being forced to having to use a weapon to defend their home, it's sad that someone has to be brought to that point, but it's only because of the fact that they are put in that predicament to be that violent, you know? Yeah. Like a life is lost and that is
Starting point is 02:09:33 always unfortunate and it should never be what happened. No, no, no, ultimately, ultimately, right? Like, like if we're being, if we're being as genuine as possible, someone who's in their life. Yeah. I would go as far as say a life. That's me personally. I understand.
Starting point is 02:09:51 I understand. You think evil people. Listen, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Let me from my point. The fact that people can even become evil in general is an unfortunate situation.
Starting point is 02:10:00 And the fact that people can choose to do bad things. more off way more often than not is because of the fact that they are they're ill-informed and they're put situations that they feel as if there's the only way to do something or there's something wrong with their minds for them to do that in the first place they're still doing evil right but it's unfortunate for the see them get to the point where they either think they need to or their brains are not wide with a tell them they should not do said i don't think um i think evil so i don't think there is maybe we're thinking of two different things because I don't think there is, oh, I need to do something evil.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Like, I don't think that exists from my perception because maybe what we're thinking is evil. Like, because if you're talking about, say, it's like killing someone, for example, it is necessary to sometimes defend yourself and kill someone. I don't think killing is inherently evil. So that is not, there is not a, but killing someone for sport or for, you know, like, whatever they happen, something like that, there is no, convincing yourself this is. I say, no, it's just fucking evil. So I think when it comes to evil, there is no scenario where it's like a, like where somebody's robbing someone, right?
Starting point is 02:11:04 Of course, we think it's wrong. But there's someone who's so desperate enough that they're like to get through the night, I might need to rob this store or something to eat or whatever. It's like that. I think that's like that's survival. Like I don't. My brain, because my brain, my instant thought is that like no one wants to do this. So the fact that someone is being a position where they have to do this or they're even doing it in the first. first place. For the most part, my brain is like, this is unfortunate. This person should not even
Starting point is 02:11:33 be in a situation. If you're talking about like, say, impoverished people or something, which it kind of feels like on a grander scale of everything, right? It's everything. I wouldn't say everything. That's, that's how I think. You know, it's not everyone's perspective. The people on top that are just aptly fucking people. They're different. They're different. But no, but that's, that's my brain goes. I agree. I agree with you in this moment. I'm saying, if you're talking about maybe like impoverished communities, we're on the same board, but like, I can't blanket everything. Because there's people that have infinite wealth that are doing things because they're just fucking terrible people.
Starting point is 02:12:03 And they don't think they're doing it out of necessity. They're doing it because they like doing it. They like hurting people. I agree. But yeah, whatever. I don't care about them. Well, I do care. I do care.
Starting point is 02:12:12 I say, I might say I don't care. I do care. But at the end of the day, I know enough people aren't going to care. So then it inherently makes me want to say, I don't care. Don't care. It's the ultimate loop of being a person. Right. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:12:26 But it's like, oh, I take you. All right, let's get a couple more 100. All right. 100 more, all right. Let's do 100 questions. Real fast. Sweeney Shows and Sneakers and Sneakers rode in.
Starting point is 02:12:39 It's fucking crazy. Isn't that like an old bit? That's got to be an old bit. I feel like a really old bit that we've done. That's scratching something in my brain. I've heard this before. Yeah. I've played this game before.
Starting point is 02:12:56 But he says, if you had to execute your no no this is not the one I wanted to well he did say if you had to execute your fellow co-host how would you do it I would put Sweeney I would tie Sweeney I would tie Kingston's arms and legs to seven different semi-trucks
Starting point is 02:13:11 that have them drive in different directions seven seven crazy it's insane it'd be like it'd be like it'd be like it'd be like opening a mentos
Starting point is 02:13:23 and just taking one out that's how much resistance it would be You just be moving on mentos. Yeah, just like very little give at all. I don't know. For Chris is just fire. It's like nothing special. Really quick to the point.
Starting point is 02:13:38 This fucking simulation. That's crazy. Derek, it's several aggressive dogs. It's so much worse. Or is it, I guess, because I'm not going to die. Chris is going to pass out pretty quickly from the pain. No, no, Chris famously has really good endurance. You're going to keep like slapping him awake a little bit.
Starting point is 02:13:59 Yeah, wake up. On your feet, nigga, come on, wake up. He's like trying to pause. When I's clap him again, wake the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:14:08 And he's like, dude, he's all fucking, he's barely there and shit. I'm just slapping him in the back of the head, hard and shit. Being eaten by dogs would be crazy. Um,
Starting point is 02:14:17 I think what I'd want for you, Kingston is, I'd want several well-endowed men to slap. slap their dick on your head until it's eventually crushed to death. Oh, I see. And then I want a lot of people are waiting in line to get their beats in. They're nutting on your toes.
Starting point is 02:14:41 That's crazy. People are giddy. There's a few people that are like really like just just Jones and let a load loose. Just like, come on, man. There's something that feels so gross about it specifically being on your toes too. I like Yeah, coming on my feet Would resort
Starting point is 02:14:58 And me getting so mad I would probably transform It to some sort of like Character Oh, I'd actually see like A real metamorphose Of a human
Starting point is 02:15:05 I'd love Like it'd be like Devil Kingston Where it would just be my fat ass With like winks Devil Kingston No difference I have like a little
Starting point is 02:15:15 I'd have like some sort of Stupid ass gay symbol Probably it looks like a dick Coming on the middle Of my bridge of my head Yeah Yeah I like that
Starting point is 02:15:23 Um I think everybody killed right that's good yeah that's fine hit me with your hit me with your fat cock by pat beniquir fuck you I'm gay um that's good pet benny queer he wrote he writes in he says uh what's crack a lack and married man engaging engaged man and
Starting point is 02:15:47 marathon feller what is the worst what is the worst super power you would bestow on your co-hosts to simply fuck with them. I like that this is all these are two in a row we're just a... We're super power, right? Ksen, I think I know what I'll give Chris E sensely. It is easy. Oh, you go. What are you going to say?
Starting point is 02:16:07 I give you the ability to read minds. It would make you lose your mind when people are like, because you would constantly, you wouldn't be able to turn it off, and that'd be hilarious. Oh, so you can't control it. Because you'd go, you'd go more crazy than you already are. I guess. I feel like I... Because you'd realize how many people are. plottingly, which is a lot.
Starting point is 02:16:27 I assume that anyway. Exactly. What if you know it? Knowing it is worse. No. No, I find comfort in knowing. I don't really care. I actually think I could find a way to use that to my benefit. It would suck. I would definitely have a terrible life.
Starting point is 02:16:43 But I would be rich for sure. You know what I mean? For sure. Like I would, I would isolate myself with all the money that I could possibly get my hands on, which it will be a lot if I can read minds. But I would have to literally isolate myself. so I can't read anybody. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:16:57 it's a good boy. Buy an island. I like that. Yeah, buy an island. Although it's not really the best precedent now. Well,
Starting point is 02:17:04 you don't have to do anything crazy with it. Yeah, but just like, I don't like the idea that, like, if I had enough money to buy an island then I did it, I don't like the idea
Starting point is 02:17:12 that people would get. Mm. And what I'm doing. People are like, oh, course this dude has this island. Especially if I can read minds and I just know,
Starting point is 02:17:19 you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Get a blue old striped fucking white and blue house have fucking Clinton painting up on there too fucking freak that'd be good man I just want to see if you were gifted an island
Starting point is 02:17:32 and it looked like the what is it little St. James is that the right one yeah yeah if it looked the landscape was exactly the same but it's not it's a completely separate island would you would you take it uh absolutely yeah absolutely immediately
Starting point is 02:17:48 you would have no problem with like having a replica of Epstein Island You're fucked. Yeah, no, it's I don't even want that. Like, if you didn't want that, you'd be like,
Starting point is 02:17:59 oh, you're, you're trash, you're trash and piss. It's like Nazi, it's like Nazi memorabil, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:18:03 this is history. That's kind of, I, that's exactly why I feel a little conflicted. Like, if it's like, oh, here's an island,
Starting point is 02:18:11 but it's a, it's a complete replica of Oshvitz. Like, you, you, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna,
Starting point is 02:18:18 why are you giving me pluses? Why are you giving me pluses? Like, what are you doing? He wasn't you'd be dissuying me? Like, it's not working. Excuse me. Everybody, land party at Auschwitz.
Starting point is 02:18:27 Everyone's having a gay old time. It's like one of the best days of your life. Can you imagine that? Like having the greatest day of your life at Auschwitz. Is Auschwitz still like a historical site? Or have they, is it like a... No, it's not repurposed. Like how they close down pizza.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Oh, it's not repurposed? No. It hasn't been reclaimed by a while. It's not like an escape room. It's in Poland, right? Yes. That would suck. I know someone in Glasgow
Starting point is 02:18:54 Sweden, right? No. No. No. No. Scotland. Oh, there you go. Never mind.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Fucking, see. I was like maybe, I know it's one of the lens. I only know it because of how many times. I only know that because of how many times I've heard people say Glasgow in an accent that's so clearly not. Glasgow. Glasgow. Glasgow.
Starting point is 02:19:16 I love the Scottish accent because it's so, it's one of the few accents where I have to like, what I, for lack of a better term, I have to squint my ears where I'm like really focusing. I'm like, this is English. Wow. That accent is something. That's all I got to say. It's great. I like a little bit.
Starting point is 02:19:37 That accent is great. I like what's your name? Sue Hoke. She puts out these Scottishisms. It's really interesting like hearing their slang. Oh, yeah. How are you doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:49 It's an interesting accent. I respect you. It's fun. Kingston, I would give you X-ray vision, but real X-ray vision. That would suck
Starting point is 02:19:57 because I would just see through everything. Yeah, but you would just peer into the darkness. I'd be pretty into the best. Yeah, you would,
Starting point is 02:20:04 you would see. Oh, legit X-ray. Yeah. Well, you would legit, it would legit be X-ray vision. You couldn't choose
Starting point is 02:20:09 exactly what you were seeing. It would, you would also not really know what the fuck you were looking at at any given moment. It would be all blue and black. You couldn't tell pretty someone was.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Yeah. Because you would just see it's kind of like how like, you know how depending on your level of focus, you know, you can see the screen in front of you or you can like kind of stare at it so hard that it'll like kind of like lose focus. And then you can kind of focus on the eye floaters that you got if you've got eye floaters or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like that. But like you'd be looking at people and you'd be like, you would see their capillaries and then their fucking bones and then their cartilage and it would like flash constantly between that shit. It would be a mess.
Starting point is 02:20:52 But that's what I would... Or alternatively, I would make it so you could see through only your eyelids. I'd have to close my eyes to be able to see things? No, no, no. So like you could only... You can never close your eyes. Really. Because you would just see through them.
Starting point is 02:21:10 I think that'd be aggravating, but then I would just put things over my eyes. So, Kingston, I'd want to give you a... That'd be littered because then because if I gave me that ability, I could wear like, I could like close my eyes. become a better fighter. He's like, oh, his eyes are closed. They're going to try to sneak around me. And I'm just like, well, that's why I didn't go with it. That's why I gave you x-ray vision.
Starting point is 02:21:29 That's impossible to control. Yeah. I got a better. There's too many, there's too many ways to abuse. I feel like there's, he would still enjoy that in some capacity, and I can't have that. I can't have that. I have have one that he would never enjoy. And I think that this is really good that. He, um, he releases
Starting point is 02:21:44 a scent. He always has a scent that attracts men to a aggressively suck his toes. Oh, that would kill me. It's a fair. That would actually make me die. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:58 And he just fucking, so as soon as like you're in the same room with a man, he immediately tries to like rip your shoes off and your socks. And he's just sucking your toes really hard. No matter who it is. Yeah, it does not matter who it is. It doesn't matter. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:22:12 And then it's the moment where I realize I have to kill somebody. Like, you're going to have to kill a lot of dudes. I have to have to kill this guy. I think that's, I think that's, I think that's, moment that people don't write well enough, man. The moment where they realize like, oh, man, I got to do, like, I have to do this.
Starting point is 02:22:27 It's, uh, it's interesting that like, uh, do you remember that the, the, I'm Harry Dresden motherfucker. Remember that weirdo dude in the, in the, the door, ring door cam. What is it called? The ring cameras. Yeah. It was like he had like sandals on and a trench coat.
Starting point is 02:22:42 You remember that guy? This just happened like a month ago or something. Chris, you don't remember? No, I don't remember this. I'm Harry dressed in motherfucker. he's like oh yeah yeah there's like a little girl in the in the guy i will fucking i will fucking end you i will fucking end you yeah yeah uh you know well um basically that guy eventually breaks into like a side door or something the the mom and i think the daughter have to hide in the garage or some shit while this dude searching the house the guy makes it home i think he has like a shovel or something heavy whatever but he doesn't kill him and it was such a moment of humanity that i was like This is a real one. A rare person that has every right to kill this guy.
Starting point is 02:23:28 No one would feel bad. And he still talks him down in one of the things that I'm like, that is crazy. That is a, because like it, like, it could have been one of those situations where I realized I'm going to have to kill this guy. And the second he showed up before he said anything, I would have shot him 16 times. That's the thing. Like for me personally, personally for me in my mind, I am very aware. aware of that thought all the time where it's like I understand how mad you get you have to pull yourself back from being that mad because it's it's it's stupid and it's lackadaisical but I try to
Starting point is 02:24:05 understand that people are not they're always at their best when they make really dumb decisions so in that scenario I understand it's very it's very it's it is well that guy to be fair that guy literally is insane yeah in that scenario where this you're actually worried about your family he could attack your family. Because at that moment, I don't know how, I don't know if Lily's in danger. Like I just think, like, how do you think,
Starting point is 02:24:24 and this is completely obviously speculative, how do you think you would have handled that situation? I don't, I don't think that guy would have been here. Exactly. That's why it's so special that that guy did that because I'm like,
Starting point is 02:24:39 holy fuck, couldn't have been me. What an example of what, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the type of shit that it's like, what a real, like, there aren't that many heroes. And I feel like,
Starting point is 02:24:49 that's like hero shit, where he could have absolutely erased that guy from existence with no one protesting at all. And he's like, no, I'm going to try to preserve this guy's life, even though it doesn't really deserve it. It's a rough position to be in where like it's heroic to simply not take a person's life. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's really fallen. Anyway, Derek, I think what I would do?
Starting point is 02:25:13 What we got for your superpower? I think I've come up with something interesting. Oh, right, right, right. So once a year You will once a year And by the way Each calendar year Not like year in time
Starting point is 02:25:26 I mean like in 2026, 2025 Okay got you 2027 whatever At least once a year You will shit bowling balls Wait Oh Lord And
Starting point is 02:25:38 How many However many bowling balls Is dependent on how many times You've blinked up until that point that year That is So fucking asinine. So this sounds like a one and done power. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:25:55 Yeah. This sounds like, you survive it. That's the powers that you, like you're built to do it. Oh, you can endure. Oh, so my, it's like how super speed also kind of intranes. Like even in order to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:26:08 Like it kind of goes along with super durability because you couldn't really do it otherwise. Yeah. That's what it is. It's like you, you'll have a, a very durable rectum. and pelvis. So January 1st of the year is when it starts? That's when the timer starts. But like the,
Starting point is 02:26:26 at a random point during that year, you will shit bowling balls. Oh, it's completely random. It could be January 2nd. It could be December 25th. And then it could be January 2nd after that. So it might be like in a two weeks span. Or it could be like the exact opposite where it's like
Starting point is 02:26:46 it's as far away as possible. That's interesting because you are, because and that's like, that's an interesting. That's a, that's a little, that's a cooked book right there, man. That's a think. I think because I, you're like, hmm, that's, that's interesting. Yeah. It's not bad. This is leading to some thought.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Did we give you a power ready Chris? I don't remember. I don't think so. Oh, I just gave Kingston some bullshit. I already gave Chris. What was it? I forgot. What did you get mine?
Starting point is 02:27:11 I don't know. Or ability to read minds. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. And then you get the Epstein Island. You'd be able to read minds, but only, like, of the most racist people ever. So you could only hear Nick Fuentes in mind.
Starting point is 02:27:22 And being like, I'm gay. I'm actually gay. I'm actually gay. I'm actually gay. You only read, uh, closeted people. Like, you read like fucking people who rejects. So you get to hear all their, in the most, you just get to hear the nastiest shit always. You'd hear like the grossest thing.
Starting point is 02:27:36 Like Nick Flintz passing by like a really handsome man. And it's like, oh, man, I want to suck the shit out of his ass, you know? Like, you like, you like, I would never, you know what the sad thing about that is like, eventually I would be so accustomed to. to it that it would be the only way that I could find entertainment. Like I couldn't like I couldn't just watch a movie because it wouldn't have that that aspect to it. It's like porn addiction but for like mind reading.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Yeah. You know, I want to give you a power just in another. This is Chris in Universe 2 or something like that. Where you every hour for the rest of your life, your penis grows a millimeter. That's terrible. That's really terrible. Every hour? Every hour for the rest. Okay. No, okay. Yeah. Every month. Let's, I'll be fair.
Starting point is 02:28:25 Every month for the rest of your life. You're crazy. Every hour. This dick would be fucking massive in a day or two. It'd be fucking crazy. That is so crazy. I got to, I want to, I feel like a month is still too long. So I want to go every week. Every week. Every week. It's still. week would be like at the end of the like by the end of the year I would have a real problem you'd have a real problem
Starting point is 02:28:50 I don't think you understand how much of a problem that is almost I do but I think an hour was too crazy but like a week is that that's it's solid enough to where it'll become a massive problem in like two months it'll be like oh my god my dick's just a snake around my house it's just like it just that's that that will be such an immediate problem it would be a The problem so me because Chris is a small person to begin with too. So it's instantly like really not good. Like off the rip, it's like this is bad. So I was going to do the math right on the calculator. Go ahead. Off the rip, it's already like as I am, the proportions are ridiculous. Oh.
Starting point is 02:29:34 I already look retard like stupid. So like that's going to be a problem. It's like pretty fucking quick. So I don't know how I'm going to be. I don't know how I'm going to manage that. I've heard that from the grapevine, you know, sorry, a lot of women have been talking to me about you,
Starting point is 02:29:51 but they said that you're nine inches soft. And I was like, wow, it's pretty impressive, bro. That's a bit of an understanding. I'm nine inches soft and two inches of heart. It just,
Starting point is 02:30:03 it just, it just chambers like a fucking squatting. Like it starts going up and then back. It's nine inches. It's nine inches. It's nine inches. It's nine inches soft, but thin. But thin.
Starting point is 02:30:18 You have like a slim. And then it gets hard. It thickens out, but it goes back. It goes back. You get a slim gym and then you get like, uh, um, I don't even like a, I don't even know what are you compared to like a, what's thick and round like? I don't even, I don't even have an example. What do you mean? Of like, say, what would your penis look like if it, um, it got extremely wide, but also.
Starting point is 02:30:44 Um, oh, but short. Yeah. What if it was like, um, you ever see the stack of coasters? Yeah. What of the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, like how it's. Yeah. Like it just that, that's a, that's crazy. It's a nice size penis, dude.
Starting point is 02:31:05 Oh my God. The women would be really, uh, like, look at all that girth. And then try to stretch their pussy over it. I think that would be really good. What? Yeah. A woman just completely Fucks her hips up trying to get on it
Starting point is 02:31:18 Completely ruins her life You think contortionists have fucking like Like crazy pussies do? I can tell you personally they don't It's boring They should be able to contort their pussy That's boring Get rid of all of them
Starting point is 02:31:31 I've seen porn of girls' pussies being able to like Yank inward almost That makes any sense I want to think about these things I'm trying not to get Great Roden He says that And this is the last one.
Starting point is 02:31:44 Great. Love it. He says at the end of one of the more recent episodes, Chris makes a transgender joke in the tune of Transformers theme song. That can't be a recent episode. I remember that. Is that recent? That feels like forever ago. I think it was like within the last couple weeks or something.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Oh, maybe I just don't remember what the fuck I said. Anyway, he says, I've come to inform you of the cult classic disguise by London's very own skepta, where he opens the song with, transvestites more than meets the I transvestites mandum in disguise he's British I guess he's London's very own uh also to the tune of the Transformers theme song have a great day is that a real person these real people I didn't that makes I think I've heard of that individual I'm not sure but it it's a man in disguise is crazy it's a very uh it's a very British thing so it makes sense yeah skepta yeah how do they say mandam makes it really upset because they appropriated that from It's like they appropriated all the spice and everything.
Starting point is 02:32:45 It's very upset. It's very upset. But I understand that they are just colonizers by nature. I cannot be upset by who they are. They're exhibiting their nature. I have not heard transvestite in a while. Like that actual word. Yeah, because you know why people don't talk like fucking savages for the most part? That's why people know how to be respectful.
Starting point is 02:33:05 It's fucking crazy. That's like one of the things that if I hear someone get called that in the street, I'm going to punch the person that said that. Like that's like you are a your trash It has to be like they have to be a Gen Xer Who the fuck is it? Like I don't even know if like younger people know that It has to be they have to be a Gen Xer.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Yeah but you gotta be a Gen Xer or like elder millennial. Yeah, yeah. And even that's kind of pushing it like I just Because I remember hearing that when I was a kid When I was younger I thought that was a respectful way to describe people who are trans Because that was the only way I heard of it being said. Well Kingston But I'm also Hispanic and Jamaican.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Well. So that's why. Well, here's the thing about that, though, is that, like, that's how words work eventually. Oh, you know, real. You're right. That was probably the proper term. And it was getting used in such a way. And then it, it's like how retard.
Starting point is 02:33:59 Like, that used to be a medical classification. And then it just gets, and then it gets, well, it's not wild. It's just like it became the thing that people called. It's, this is the problem with the, the word switching is that like, it will always. happen. Because like, if it's, if something's referring to something unusual, then everybody's going to refer to that unusual thing in ways that are not flattering. And they're going to use that word, which will then inherently carry with it some malice.
Starting point is 02:34:26 And then a different word will be chosen, but then that'll just take the place and it just keeps going. I mean, because I remember transvestites, that was in a weird al song. You know what I mean? And weird house is not like a fucking, you know, some big, I understand. I understand what happened is the idea of you should. educate yourself, you know, like obviously this word has a phrase of its own. It means this thing. As time goes on, words change people that identify themselves in different ways, try to update
Starting point is 02:34:51 how to, you know, refer to themselves. And you should be like, all right, cool, I respect that my apologies move on. You're gay. You see? Like that. You fucking queer. That's the last one I haven't got rid of entirely in my dictionary, my vocabulary. I'm trying to, but it's not.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Which one? Okay. Yeah. I haven't got rid of it entirely. I don't know about that at all. I got rid of it for years. I'm trying. You guys brought it back.
Starting point is 02:35:12 me. I don't give a lot. Who's you guys? I don't say it that much. Both of you relatively. More so than anybody else I know. They're not going to take it. I say it, but I don't say it. I'm going to take that shit away from me, bro. They're not Jayland doesn't call. Jayland doesn't call things gay. No. Well, Paul calls things gay, but he's gay. He does. He does, he does a lot. I'm going to take it away from me because I just, I'm like, I'm sorry. I, I, I understand, I understand where you're coming from. I'm having a fake conversation because this is not going to have, but it's just like, I literally, I literally,
Starting point is 02:35:42 am not thinking about you. I don't care. Like, I'm not, like, it's not even like, when I think that's gay, I think there's a dick going in an ass. It's just not, like, it's... You don't think that, you don't? I agree.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Like, you're, like, I agree with you... I won't say it around some people. If they, if I knew they had a problem with it, obviously I would respect them. And I wouldn't say it around them. Yeah. So it's like, it's like that. Kind of like, I know motherfuckers are saying
Starting point is 02:36:07 the hard are behind, you know, our backs all the fucking time. But we come around, they ain't going to stand around us. it's funny. A lot of people ain't going to say it around us. And I appreciate that you respect me enough to be like, I think I'll cool it with that. Unless I specifically gave you the past, like say, obviously my wife, she has not said the hard
Starting point is 02:36:26 R and it accepts it upsets me. She did say the soft day at one point. And I was like, shocked. I was like, oh my God. She did it. That information out there. I will. I will.
Starting point is 02:36:35 I'm proud. I'm a proud husband. I'm a proud husband. I'm a proud of my lady. I'm proud of my lady. I didn't fucking, I didn't force her to do it. And it kind of like, she repeated something I said. I don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 02:36:47 And I was just like, oh my, she said it. It was crazy. Oh my God. I really do love you. I really, I really feel it. I feel that right, like, right here. It would be a different thing if we had an argument. And she started like blasting fucking ends at me.
Starting point is 02:37:00 That's the thing for me. If I'm mad at you and you call me that, like if we're having a conversation, you're mad at me and you call me that, I'm punching you on your face. You're getting, you're getting it's not even like, it's, it's the fact that you're trying to offend me. Because like me, that shit doesn't really cut deep for me personally. It's the fact that like,
Starting point is 02:37:16 wow, you're trying to really fucking hurt me. Damn, that's crazy. Not for me. It's very much so. You're trying to say that to me when you're mad. If you're mad at someone,
Starting point is 02:37:25 when you're mad and you say things, you mean it's what I mean. You're trying to hurt me. Yeah, it's violence. I'm a show you violence. Did you see that HGTV lady? What happened?
Starting point is 02:37:37 Did you see that at all? So there's a woman who I think it's, she's on some, house makeup show, you know what I mean? Where they build, you know, it's like, oh, here's a new, we're building a new foyer.
Starting point is 02:37:47 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Foyer. Is it a foyer? I used to call it a foyer. I call it foyer, but I'm pretty sure I don't speak about that. I'm familiar with Fourier, but like I actually don't even, I don't know,
Starting point is 02:38:01 I actually don't even necessarily know what a foyer is. I don't know. I don't know how it's spelled. I don't know anything about this, actually. It's definitely not correct English saying foyer. So, Yeah, some HGTV lady was like, uh,
Starting point is 02:38:13 she was fixing something on a doorframe or whatever. She's standing on a ladder and something messes up and she goes, oh, fart N word. I remember that I saw that. I definitely saw that. And she goes, oh,
Starting point is 02:38:28 what the fuck is that that I just said? Did you know that? She can tell she's stunned. Yeah. She can tell she's like, she's like, why I'd say that. Uh, it's funny.
Starting point is 02:38:38 That's crazy. Yeah. It's apparently like two year old footage. but it came out recently and she got a fired for it but it's one of those things where like I saw it and she explains it and I I heard the delivery of it too and I'm like I genuinely don't think this is a racist person
Starting point is 02:38:55 but that is a crazy thing for you to say she went on the just out of fucking nowhere breakfast club dude to explain herself oh right right yeah yeah that's right and uh I mean so she so she had her um wow I can they missed this. I see like a bunch people talking about.
Starting point is 02:39:12 Dude, the video is so funny. Like, the video of her saying it is so funny because she goes, what the fuck is that that I just said? Like, it's, you tell it's just like a complete, like, possession. Damn near. I think so she had a, she had a PewDie Pie moment.
Starting point is 02:39:28 She had a PewDie Pie, like, yeah, well, I agree, yeah. No, because PewDie Pie actively, like, called somebody, you know what I mean? She just said an obscenity. like it's an insane obscenity to say but like I do think there's a difference between saying a bad word and calling someone
Starting point is 02:39:46 calling someone about our word I agree that also I'm saying like Pea pie it's crazy that she said the fart is what what blows me away about it like why fart it's just like on these the low end of the spectrum of something rude to say versus like the final boss of it like the max she maxed it out it's like zero to 100 you skipped everything in between lady that's crazy It's so funny. Did you see the clip?
Starting point is 02:40:11 I saw it a while ago. I haven't played it. I don't want to like interrupt the show, but. It's very quick. Like the clip of it is incredible. It's like maybe like six seconds. Oh, okay. But it is so fucking funny, dude.
Starting point is 02:40:25 Like it cracks me. That video cracks me up. The thing that bothers me about it though is just like bro, like so I mean, whatever. Like she's like some, she's a relatively which right woman. She'll be fine. But like it blows my mind that like, this bitch is getting fired for saying the N-word, but our president is still there.
Starting point is 02:40:44 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't like this, this, like that justice only hits just people who are just irrelevant. Yep. Like, it makes no difference if she has a show or not. But, like, we have psych, we have literally psychopathic pedophile protectors, like being. And by the way, it's open, by the way.
Starting point is 02:41:05 It's like, it's not even like an accusation. We know this. Everyone knows. And it's just like, well, that's fine. Yeah, that's the problem I don't know. I feel like it's annoying
Starting point is 02:41:13 isn't being dude and what happens is that people with weaker minds right? Like people who are weak our minds are literally being radicalized from this. And I don't think the powers
Starting point is 02:41:21 that we get it either. I don't they understand. They're like, what's making everyone hate our president? It's like, well, he's a visibly corrupt criminal in a way that.
Starting point is 02:41:32 They're lying. They fucking. I don't think every other president has been, you know? They fucking know. It's like, I was gonna bring up. I was going to bring up. I was going to bring this up. I don't know if we brought, did we talk about this? Did we talk about this? Right. God. Damn it. No. But that's a, that would, that's a great thumbnail. But God of War is a better thumb. So, never mind. It is. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to focus on God of War. It's more.
Starting point is 02:41:57 Yeah, no, absolutely. Frontload. More easy for general people. But like, now that we're deep in the show, bro, like. After pee, but I want to hear this part. I want to talk about this. So continue. Go ahead. You can go, you can pee right now as you're sitting there. Like, the, the, thing. The thing, I just thought it was so funny that Dave Rubin, like, so he goes on this Jubilee thing, gay conservative. People like to bring out my sexuality, but it's like, yes. Yes, David, people do. He says he's against wokeism.
Starting point is 02:42:31 And yet, for Pride Month, he uploaded a video of himself getting fucked by many people. I don't really understand That's good job I get it man That uh that mentality But like he he went on there He got he got reamed by everybody by like people who were under prepared people who are minimally prepared people who are overly prepared There's a girl who's on there not so iridite I think like fucking laid it out on him is just like this it is crazy to me
Starting point is 02:42:59 How far he's gotten on being so stupid He's just he's an idiot to dumber people that's the problem It really shows you the, uh, the top of people that watch this, the anti-woke shit that they, they have no real morals, no real convictions because like, let's say if they were being consistent, they wouldn't even tolerate Dave Rubin first and foremost. They wouldn't tolerate Candace Owens first and foremost. Like that, they wouldn't tolerate that, uh, what's his name? Uh, Stephen Crowder was like, oh, he experimented in fucking college.
Starting point is 02:43:31 He was like gay before or whatever. And then they come out about the not gay charity, did all this gay shit. and they still fucking watch them. They don't care. As long as you just say the right thing, they don't care who these people are. So they're like, oh, Dave Rubin, you're gay and you have a surrogate gay son or whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 02:43:47 And like, we're still going to watch you because you say nice things about my president. And Dave Rubin, some people would probably speculate that he has a humiliation fetish, but I think it's more of, he's so much more irrelevant than he's losing so much relevance that even this is better than not in no one not talking about him because right no one's really talking about him anymore
Starting point is 02:44:11 like they're all like in the respective corners not making as much money as they used to so this is probably a very good boost for him well he's also so stupid that it's like it's weird like he's a he's a he's not the dumbest person I've ever seen somehow like the like the audience is so much stupider so it like you know right right relative he like he used to be the dumbest person in the room now he's like it's like how everybody gets like everybody's smarter than they otherwise would be just based on the new baseline
Starting point is 02:44:43 yeah you know yeah um but he's very stupid and he's very uninteresting right those are the two things about him that it's just like there's nothing I mean he's clearly a headpiece because he's gay yeah like clearly like I'm gay and Ben Shapiro wants to kill me and it's fine
Starting point is 02:45:02 I invited him my wedding I invited him to my wedding. He spat all over my face. He kicked me in the nuts and called me the F slur and ran away. And I was like, it's fine. I'm just tolerant. What is it? He said like, oh, this is not equal or whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:45:18 And he's friends with a nigga that's running out organization is like, David, they don't want you to exist the way you do. And you're champion. I'm good friends of Blair White. It's like Blair. Yeah. You brought her up like that was going to checkmate someone. No, you're a fucking.
Starting point is 02:45:33 fucking idiotic trans foe. That's another one like that. You're a dumb idiotic gay transphob. Like what are you doing, bro? Shut up. Dave Rubin. It is all just very funny. It's insane.
Starting point is 02:45:45 It's stupid. He, because that, there's nobody, they were all laughing at him too on this, on this, literally. Like there was,
Starting point is 02:45:50 I have never seen, because look, I've seen Jubilee videos where, um, even though I disagree with the person going on, the performance of the people, like, this is a frustration.
Starting point is 02:46:03 I have with a lot of debates where it's like people just don't bring up the things that I want them to bring up and I just don't understand why they do that. Sure. Or why they don't do it. And to be fair, like there was some of that in this, but like there was at no point where I thought clever editing could have gotten him to look better than another person. You know what I mean? Like there was no point. This is a rare thing. Even the Jordan Peterson, even Jordan Peterson did better than he did. And Jordan Peterson did terribly. He didn't talk. Jordan Peters was like, well, what have? What is the nature of the question that you're asking? Yeah. It's just like a bunch of that crap, but it was at least like, it was his audience. They appreciate that shit. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:46:43 they like that. Oh, he's smart. He's been, they everyone was thinking about stuff. They ever been didn't know that it, like, Gaza was still being attacked.
Starting point is 02:46:52 They're not being attacked. I assure you. And it's like, they're literally still being attacked. Because somebody told them that. That's the problem. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:00 Someone just, the stuff that he's saying, the stuff that he was repeating, is all. shit that like Marco Rubio said and other fucking dumb ass talking heads and I'm like, why are we pretending? Why are we pretending that these people aren't lying through their teeth like always?
Starting point is 02:47:13 Dave Rubin wakes up, sucks his husband's dick, and then just says stupid stuff. That's what he does. Fresh out of bed, takes a shower, sucks his husband's dick, goes immediately to fucking disenfranchise people of the same sexual preference as him. Yeah. What a fucking idiot, dude. He's,
Starting point is 02:47:32 anti-wokeness while automatic like it's it's so funny nothing burns you see that nothing burns me more than a coon nothing burns me more than a coon it makes me so mad seeing people do that is he a gay is he a goon he's a
Starting point is 02:47:48 he's a gay coon he's a yeah he's a coon gate but that's crazy yeah I don't know man it's I did want to bring that up because that was a that was a that was a that was the thing that happened then we
Starting point is 02:48:00 Dave Rubin is a a bit of a character on this show. What a fucking moron. It's just like, there are better ways to get publicity than doing that shit, bro. Like, it's like just go hang out with Nick Fuentes or something. That would have been a better, like,
Starting point is 02:48:17 a way of getting talked about or something. But yeah, maybe to that point. And I do need to realize that maybe he is huffing his farts a little bit. And he thought that he was going to slay a little bit. Maybe he thought that he was going to slay a little bit. was going to get in a few clips and know that oh i can take this back to my fucking gay show yeah it just it just didn't wow did not turn out that way wow there was not a single thing there
Starting point is 02:48:42 where even the fact checkers who are normally kind of like you know iffy were like no this like usually they'll just like usually they'll just like they'll take a claim and then they'll provide background on the claim right they'll just have like a straight up like all right this is the this is what he's referring to. Right. And the facts of it. There were a couple in this Dave Rubin where it just said where he'll be like, where Dave Rubin's like, well, this is happening.
Starting point is 02:49:10 And then the thing will pop up is like, this is not happening. And I've actually never seen that on Jubilee before. I don't pay that deep attention to it. I also don't watch a lot of these. Yeah. But that was distinct to me where I was like, oh my God, that's so funny. The fact check is even going like, it's not even providing background on what he's saying.
Starting point is 02:49:26 It's just like straight up like this did not happen. Let's put it this way. I think he said something. I think he said something like. Like that Iran is like losing oil, like they're not selling oil or whatever. They're selling zero oil. And there was like a thing that was like, this is not true. It's like, why would you like, who told you that?
Starting point is 02:49:42 That's the thing. It's like, I know. It's like, where's he gets? I don't know. He's getting his information from like a chat GPT bot that's like not even fucking connected to the internet. It's like, I don't even understand. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:52 It's a fucking homeless guy just telling him shit. And like, he's like, you know what? I want to be analog. I'm a useful looking chat GBT with analog. He just pays some piece of shit and just puts him behind a computer screen or something. He's just in the, he's in an empty hollow computer. His name's Chet Gregory Peter Taylor. And that's the guy he goes to.
Starting point is 02:50:13 That's the guy who's like, this is a chachy-p-tee. He's like, no, it's just a guy, brother. It's a fucking guy. Oh, my bad. I can't help it then. I'm dumb and gay. I can't help. My informant's telling me all sorts of things.
Starting point is 02:50:25 Isn't that right? And he's like, he turns over to his informant. He's like sharpening a fucking butter knife on the sidewalk. insane it makes me so upset dude i'm so i'm so i just wanted to bring it up yeah this hardened towards those fucking people man it's like you're like that is what i call evil that is these things that actively are doing shit like that when they know that they're hurting other people they know it like i understand you could you could like okay i'm gonna rob this house but i it's still i don't condone it but it's like i'm gonna rob this house and i'm gonna
Starting point is 02:50:56 try to get the money from this house and then leave immediately i don't want to hurt anybody but if I don't do this, I can't see another way of feeding my child. That is a bad decision. That's a bad decision, right? You see, this Negro is advocating for stealing. He's black. I mean, I mean, look at the crimes who do it a lot. And it's often, look at the drug addicts that do it.
Starting point is 02:51:18 They often don't look like me. I don't think you know what you're talking about Negro. I don't know anything about that. Iran's in South America. It's like, it wouldn't put it bad. Like, seriously. No way he knows where Iran is. No, no, no, no, you know, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:51:32 I ran to my husband's penis, like shit like that. What is it? All right, we're going to move on. We're going to read the names now from our $25 and up patrons over a patron on the Compsies. Remember, you can go over there and you can get your name right at the end of the show, as I will now do. I'm sorry, could you repeat that? I was thinking about my husband's penis.
Starting point is 02:51:54 Okay, Dave Rubin. Don't worry, Dave Rubin. I'll be right back, Dave Rubin. Okay, David, Rubin. One calls the other one David, Rubin, so they know. Yeah, that's the distinction. We should all, we should all go as Dave Dave Dave and gay or Dave. Yeah, I'll make Lily dress up as Dave Rubin's husband and I'll be Dave.
Starting point is 02:52:11 I'll be, David Rubin and I'll be Dave Rubin. So crazy. That's such a crazy thing. All right. Yeah, we're going to read the name, the $25 enough names now. Count me down. He's been to my house. We've had delicious Italian food.
Starting point is 02:52:24 And then he also immediately voted for things that would make your life harder. He literally voted for things. He believes. he ate your food he ate your food that's even more insidious actually he sat down in your house he spent time in your home he ate your food and he's like awesome i'm gonna vote for that homo not to be able to have adopt children he came to your house he enjoyed your company he ate your food he came in your sink and this is what you this is how this is how what he thinks of you insane i'm sorry i'm sorry i was gone for so long i just needed to run one out real quick being in this
Starting point is 02:53:00 gay household really got the juices flowing. I just needed to get it out. I saw a picture. I know I was gone for an exorbitant a long time. It takes me a long time to finish. I know I left exactly 12 seconds ago. I didn't have pictures of Abby here. Sorry,
Starting point is 02:53:10 you know, it takes me a little bit longer. It takes me a little bit longer. I'm sorry. I'm drinking pineapple juice for 16 years. A pineapple juice. Years. God damn. This chuggy,
Starting point is 02:53:22 chugging pineapple juice, magnesium, zinc. You know, get it all lessethin or whatever the fuck. All the things that they say, all the things that say work. That toilet is fucking sopping. Oh, my God. You count me down. Three, two, one.
Starting point is 02:53:42 Delicious. Abby, Abby's Peeler. She sounds delicious. Abby. Oh, my God. Abigail. She sounds delicious. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:53:48 I don't see it. I don't see it, Ben. I'm sorry, Ben, but I can't think of anybody other than my wonderful husband, Dave Rubin. Maybe. Maybe. I do, they are. then he would have to even weigh in. You're weighing it all.
Starting point is 02:54:04 I don't think so. I don't know. I don't know what you see in my husband. He's pretty swell. Have you seen my husband? We're in the cat. Let's literally just gay jokes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:19 All right. I'm a better drunk driver than my dad. Going Ian Watkins on a plane for Alia like Dave on them chipmunks. Isaiah McLevin Nurgles Chosen Chud Young grain of sand Green Goblin
Starting point is 02:54:37 Crack and Mysterio Cannon Cursed image You see the Green Goblins Playable in Tokon Oh yeah He looks crazy I thought that was
Starting point is 02:54:42 He's fucking creepy He's hunched over That was actually cool Like I feel like Green Gobbins like Never playable in anything Yeah So like the fact that he's in that
Starting point is 02:54:54 Is dope The fact he tells Spider Man Get Over it Made me happy I was like that I really like that. I first thought he was going to be on the glider the whole time. Because like when the first show him, he just whoop an ass on the glider.
Starting point is 02:55:06 And I was like, yo, is he just going to be hovering the whole time? But he jumps off it. I was like, okay. You weren't ready. You were like, oh, my God. I was like, that's, like, that's, it seems unfair, but are, but all right. That seems incredibly unfair. Brought a fucking levitation device to a fighting, a fighting game.
Starting point is 02:55:25 Right. How is a monkey going to borrow a Sens you mean? Is you going to give it back? circumcision lawyer Chris, your honor. He's ostensibly innocent. He's seemingly innocent. It's the great unwashed spud, chud the soap dropper, accidentally
Starting point is 02:55:40 spiking the soap in the shower with so much force that it shatters the tile beneath. The F slur, the prophecy foretold of. The dumb slut hates these Patreon changes. Yeah, they're, I don't know, man. Yeah, pretty gay. Hello, David Rubin. Hello, David.
Starting point is 02:55:58 Hello, David Rubin. Oh, yeah. Are you gay? Me? Why, yes, I'm actually quite gay. I voted anti-gay in every election I've ever voted. Gay Obama would be like, got to have them ribs and penis too. Nice.
Starting point is 02:56:16 Nice. Cold brew king, Alpha V, Bernie, the Bay Blade of Destruction Sanders. Sween hates the South because they're too many black. And then it ends. A long-time Jerker first day. Buster, WWEE AI commentary channels unable to pronounce WWE. Oh, did you see that?
Starting point is 02:56:34 Yeah. Dude, I busted laughing at that, dude. Shit's really fucking crazy. Did you see that, Derek? No. Oh, my God. Yeah, they can't pronounce W.W.E. The fucking AI channels. They can't pronounce the thing.
Starting point is 02:56:47 Oh. That's funny. It's like, once I was like, Kameha, ha, me, ha. And I was like, what the fuck did this just say? That's what I'm. Dude, listen to this. This is awesome.
Starting point is 02:56:58 now. Can you afford it? But do you feel like you have to be there? That's the question. And for a lot of people, the answer this year seems to be not quite. The show will happen. The stadium will likely fill up one way or another. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what.
Starting point is 02:57:25 Yo. He's lost. What was that sound at the end? Chris send me that Chris said me that I saved this I was like I was I pulled that off on a rip
Starting point is 02:57:51 But like look at look at this Dude that's like I'll send gawking a cock dude What whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Chris you got to send me that You have to say if I show that to Lily She'll have a heart attack I'm like Dave Rubin's like like
Starting point is 02:58:06 fucking going at each other. That's how Dave Rubin sounds every night. The other one's gawking. The other one's surprising how good it is. Wow. Wow. Wow, David. And that's just eating ass right there.
Starting point is 02:58:18 That's just eating ass. It just goes crazy. Wow, David Rubin. You're sucking my dick real well, David Rubin. You know David Rubin. Yo, when I saw that video, I laughed so fucking. That might be the hardest laugh. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:58:34 It actually sounds like it's panics. Thank you. Totally. For a while, it sounds like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm like, yo. And then complete crash out of the end. See what I love it. It's one of the best videos.
Starting point is 02:58:47 How, Dave Rubin, you're really slurping my shit, Dave Rubin. I know, Dave Rubin. I know, thank you so much, Dave Rubin. The tank is sucking your shit right now. I know, I'm gay too. Oh, God, Dave Rubin. You're blowing, you're blowing my brain. Stop.
Starting point is 02:59:02 Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Rubin. I know Dave Rubin. The tag formerly known as Snark. Like came, Dave Rubin. I know Dave Rubin. It's in my mouth, Dave Rubin.
Starting point is 02:59:23 Oh, geez, Dave Rubin. You're really sucking my shit right now, Dave Rubin. I know Dave Rubin. A little pineapple, haven't you, Dave Rubin? I've been having Zig, Dave Rubin. Thanks, Dave Rubin. Really slobbing the fuck out of his boy. Oh, that's so fucking stupid. Holy shit, Dave Rubin. My God. They use their first name.
Starting point is 02:59:59 It's an entire fucking name. Oh, God. They're so afraid that one of them is going to just not be them. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. I know Dave Rubin. I'm quite frightened, Dave Rubin.
Starting point is 03:00:12 Why would you be so scared, Dave Rubin? This is so stupid. It's me, it's me, that belief guy. Nothing on my chin, his coombs, they will congeal. I'm so tired. That really, that really made me so exhausted. Me too. Be on, clap, clap, beat off, fat, fat, nice.
Starting point is 03:00:42 The only remaining Starship Canterbun fan on this ban on this barren earth, I'll suck your dick, I'll eat your shit. Osama bin Litton versus Adolf Hitler. Who would win? I hate how card that goes. Oh, my goodness. Adolf Hitler is pretty good. Hitler.
Starting point is 03:00:59 I got to be real. Hitler on the roof. Oh, that's a crossover. That's a crazy crossover. You shouldn't say that one, though. That may not, maybe not that particular combination. What do you mean? But like, nothing.
Starting point is 03:01:14 Forget it. I'm just having to do it. I don't know anything about Fiddler on the way. It's like a musical, right? It's very Jewish. Yeah. Is it really? Hiller, Hiller, Hiller, Hiller.
Starting point is 03:01:22 Hiller, Hiller, Hiller, yeah, you don't know about... Oh, is it? You know it? If I were a rich man. Yeah. You know what's crazy? I only know that, I only, I knew that from Gwen Stefani. That's it.
Starting point is 03:01:34 Oh, interesting. Like recently or something? No, not recent. She had that song from forever. Yes. Is that Gwen Stefani or am I mixed? No, if I was a rich girl. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la.
Starting point is 03:01:49 Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that bitch is weird now I'm complaining about not being rich I mean, Russ, he's keep you going He's all weird now Yeah, she's uh, she got consumed She got the she was hanging out that fucking Luke Brian guy
Starting point is 03:02:03 From from that show From one of those uh reality It's not American Idol or it maybe it's American Idol I'm not sure It's the voice The voice okay so yeah They like got together and then he's all stupid and retarded Christian or something And she turned all weird She got caught in his dick sand, man
Starting point is 03:02:20 Dude, that guy released a song recently on TikTok He's getting cooked by everyone Because he's just listing stuff off Like something fish and coffee Woodchuck Fine tree Climb tree and it's like
Starting point is 03:02:35 What the fuck is this? Clim tree is crazy That's AI for sure What the fuck? Is that again? I think his name's Luke Brian I think Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:02:46 So Yeah And that shit would, like, fucking super viral. And I was like, it sucks so hard. Because I've been curating just, like, terrible artist. That's just funny that, like, he's like a respected country artist, I guess. And it's funny that he seeped into my algorithm. Like, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 03:03:02 I mean, he was pretty like country artist. And that means about as much as being a respectable fucking chronic masturbator, you know? Like, what the fuck does that be? That's crazy. That was way meaner than it should have been. I'm loving some of these shitty fucking Instagram people on fault. There's this guy that he's like, he dances everywhere, like doing this dumb like two-step. He's like, I'm just a guy from misery.
Starting point is 03:03:26 And I'm like in some misery. Met a girl from Tennessee. She's the only Tennessee. And he just dances in random places and looks like the dumbest asshole ever. And he's all over my algorithm. And I'm just, I'm so happy with how this shit's being curated versus like I step on a Twitter and immediately it's everyone crying about everything. It's, uh,
Starting point is 03:03:51 did you see, uh, did you see, um, did you see the quartering do that, uh, so this is a while ago to be fair. Like he's like maybe like a couple weeks ago. Mick should be this of, uh, the quartering doing an ad read. No, I'm on his show. And it was like, he turns. So I'm pretty sure like, like there's like a whole conspiracy theory about like how like,
Starting point is 03:04:12 they don't think he knows what his ad reads are before he reads them on screen. He just accepts them. reads them. Yeah. So he turns to his thing and it's like, you love Israel. What? And the ad read is for like, I think it's for good money Israel or something. Like some, I'm not even joking. I'm not even, I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 03:04:35 Like the whole thing is like put your money where your mouth is and where Israel is or something like that. It's ridiculous. But like, you could tell he's just like, oh, fuck. That is not. Insane. That's insane. insane. It's very funny. Like, you should definitely, like, I'll send it to you after.
Starting point is 03:04:53 I'll try to find the clip of it and I'll send it to you because it is, it is crazy. Imagine your team not looking out for you that badly. Imagine your team like being that in K. Willoughby? They hate him. I imagine. Like, ain't that, ain't that your nigga? Ain't that the reason why y'all eating? Like, you go just do him filthy like that? So there's a theory specifically like that he's lost so much cash that like, he's lost the right, like, he's only
Starting point is 03:05:14 streaming now because he's contractually obligated. And now, like, I think they're just like, you got to read the ad, sorry. Right. Like you have a contract, you have to fulfill? Because otherwise, like, why would you still be around? Really? Like, just sit on the money that you made at that point.
Starting point is 03:05:27 You know what I mean? Yeah, I saw that he was doing, stealing everyone's shorts. Yeah. It's just, like, super popular viral shorts. He goes, that's crazy. Check this out. And it's literally that. That's as transformative as it is.
Starting point is 03:05:42 He puts like, so you know, he sits down in his chair probably for like 10 minutes, creating probably a dozen intros to, you know, he doesn't even know what the fuck is being put on, what they're being put on. So he's just like, man, I can't believe that happened. Check this out. Imagine being, imagine being that, like, bankrupt as a person. Imagine being like that, like, genuinely, like, empty.
Starting point is 03:06:06 Like, legitimately, there's nothing. There's nothing in you. It's lazier than Jason DeRullo. I don't know if you remember what he was doing. I remember that him being like, wow, that's crazy. It was like three different videos. cycled over like at least he was putting his likeness over the video as if he was reacting but it was just the same thing over over him shirtless on a treadmill him eating some food him laughing
Starting point is 03:06:27 that's it that's it was funny as fucking fucking talk about that shit yeah that's how i thought i could not stop fucking that's right yeah wait what what are you talking about oh jason uh jack's films exposing jason derulo's fucking shorts or tictox where he just put stock video over like like if there were fake reactions that shit was so funny it was the same like three or four videos on every fucking video I was like dude wouldn't your regular audience find this out like immediately
Starting point is 03:06:57 like oh it's him on the treadmill again they don't have regular audiences they have people who click yeah exactly people that just see it in scroll there's good point yeah you're right Lily stealing all of Sween's jellyfish sting piss the sad lonely spider Lafoo father of the manosphere Reverse Moses summoning a long slice of water in the desert to keep someone else's people in.
Starting point is 03:07:21 That's crazy. A slice of water. A slice of water. It's an awesome, awesome term. Pam Bondi's sentient tumor, Larry the cucumber, Delta Gamma, literally fed this the style of last week. Why is it still crying? Crying the clam now chowdered, blue sangheely.
Starting point is 03:07:38 Accidentally sent my boss a voice note of me railing my fleshlight while moaning his name. That's fucking crazy. That's crazy. sure by mistake sorry i sent you this by accident so uh what do you think tricking the book yeah yeah what do you think now that now that you've seen it uh this year only we read the names at the five dollar tier i am going to kill the president of the mortar john chainsaw chud chud chud chintz chad chintz chad wringing out the used condoms into the homies
Starting point is 03:08:14 toothbrush. I'm joking, of course. Stating that is crazy. I'm joking, of course, is a very funny way to end that. Stating it, like, I was a joke. I didn't mean it. Sege, casting the first stone and encouraging others to do the same. Come on, join me, everyone. Throw things. Join me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let he who is, what is it?
Starting point is 03:08:36 Immersed in sin. Let he who's draped in sin. Join me. He who is draped, let he who is draped in sin cast every stone. Every stone. Rezerker Broly's bang bus-sized penis. The Sloker 2, why so derpy? Seasom smashing two continents together.
Starting point is 03:08:57 As hair so thick, it filters my shit until it runs clear. It's insane. Chugging soda until I'm immune to kidney punches. That's a choice. Good luck. I don't know if it works that way necessarily. Good luck, Beth. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:13 That's a build for sure. That's a build. That's a, you're respecking. And I value that. Waphtony Dag Tano here. Orix's giant cock. Do you know he is trans? Who?
Starting point is 03:09:24 Yes, literally, actually, canonically. Who works? Yeah. I mean, technically they're all. Who are you saying? This is a destiny lore creature. Oh, okay. But it's like a god that chooses to be.
Starting point is 03:09:37 Yeah, because he's Orosh, right? Orosch at first, yes. and then he becomes oryx. Oh, we got wokeness in destiny? It's the coolest fucking wokeness ever, dude. Oh,
Starting point is 03:09:48 hell not. That is the, that is the biggest, sad point for me for destiny ending. It's just like, it's such a good, that's such a good universe, man.
Starting point is 03:09:56 What makes me really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, upset is that I was looking at the destiny story. I have it open right now, like a whole thing of talking about the whole destiny story,
Starting point is 03:10:06 that universe's a story is amazing. Like, no one gives me some otherwise, that universe is fucking badass, but unfortunately it was just like... So horribly mishandled. So tremendously mishandled. So they just like too much wokeness in it. It's so mishandled.
Starting point is 03:10:22 You're really trying to sell this. They put so much wokeness in it, right? I think you're fucking colored people in that fucking universe. Right. I mean, come on. Really? Come on. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:10:35 People of color. People. Oh, you're going to jail now. You're going to woke. jail. Oh, guess I can't say anything anymore. Guess I can't just speak my mind. I was looking at it again and freaking it was talking about what's his name? Freaking Fel Winter. And I was like, oh my God, Fel Winter and Civa, that shit's so badass.
Starting point is 03:10:56 Yeah, we're not getting into this. Come on. Woke Winter's nuts. I feel like I get, I can make big buck. I don't have to know anything about anything. It just to be like this shit sucks. This is all woke. Yeah, Derek.
Starting point is 03:11:10 You don't. They don't have souls. People who have played it. People who have played through Destiny 2 and all this shit, they loved it. And then I convinced them that it's woke and they never play again. I bet I can make it that happen. I hate Wolkstonie. Wokestney.
Starting point is 03:11:27 Exemplar of the white monster enthusiasts, the snark tank's resident V-tuber, conservative guy who thinks roots is too woke. Round-eyed Asian. I got a piss. Comes. Yeah, go do that. Yeah. He turns his camera off as if he's going to, as if he's going to, as if he's
Starting point is 03:11:40 he pulls his pants down now, like, right? His dick is dripping, and he's just like, yeah, he doesn't want to get it on. It's like those shorts. It's like those kids at school, like, when we were really little that would go to the urinal. When they pull their pants all the way down. Why are you still here?
Starting point is 03:11:55 Yeah, yeah, that's great. Whatever. How can you tell if Lily is actually Hispanic and isn't just wearing a wig? Sweene's wedding must also have. have a plethora of gay beetles having sex and doing backup, uh, it, it ran out. I'm sorry. But yeah, gay
Starting point is 03:12:16 Beatles, I know, we know how much he loves gay Beatles. Yeah, we can put them in there. Round that Asian comes in syringes to put it back in. That's crazy. That is crazy. Vegeta forcing Yamcha to give him Eskimo kisses. Uh, how can, oh, I read that already.
Starting point is 03:12:32 Aripaw in the Botla Woha. Um, man, a completely forgot to make a Huey jokes with the cube. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's obvious. Yeah, it's obvious. O'y, Gary, you're a fucking cube, mate. I wanted to play around with that.
Starting point is 03:12:49 I totally forgot, damn. Yeah, I totally forgot to. Yeah, whatever. Bald, blue-eyed German man waiting for the Expedition 33 movie with Sweene's Lune, and then it cuts off. I know that it's flying around the screen is the rest of it, but I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on with Patreon. Backrooms is getting great reviews. The people saying it sucks are whiny teenagers.
Starting point is 03:13:12 Well, I mean, so we saw this. I don't remember what we said about backrooms on the last episode. I mean, I haven't seen it, so I don't know anything about it. But they were talking about like the backrooms, like I saw some comment that was like the backrooms hate came out of nowhere. And I was like, did we hate? I don't, I don't, because I don't hate it. I haven't seen it. I don't know anything about that.
Starting point is 03:13:34 Yeah, on our last episode. They can't be referring to us. that's what I'm saying I don't I think the movie and skeptical oh was he or something maybe
Starting point is 03:13:45 but like I don't know I don't know I don't really I don't relate to that feeling because I just don't know what the movie is I don't know anything about it like I generally don't even know
Starting point is 03:13:57 is it like I think it's something about like I remember seeing a question about um so it's like a creator related like somebody that a YouTuber or something I don't or am I completely mixing up with something else. I thought like some movies came out recently that were more like something that,
Starting point is 03:14:15 what's his name, Markiplier did? Oh, Iron Lung. Iron Lung. And then I thought there was something, I might be mixing some shit up, but I thought, I heard that there were some movies that came out that were akin to that. It was kind of like independent, but I might just be completely wrong. I don't know anything about, I haven't seen anything to be. It's just me.
Starting point is 03:14:37 I'm completely lost in like pop culture shit right now. I don't really know what's been happening. So back. What? Wait, back door? With, Clore,
Starting point is 03:14:47 back rooms. Oh, sorry. So back rooms. And then there was something else that came out recently that a lot of people were talking about. Obsession. Okay.
Starting point is 03:14:54 Okay. Yeah. That's the one I'm more curious about. Is that the one that has, uh, some people? I swear, I'm,
Starting point is 03:15:00 I feel like, I'm sure there's, I'm sure it's with all of them. Let me see. I'm going to look it up so I can at least not sound as retarded. I'm going to keep going Okay Gay Buckle Bunny
Starting point is 03:15:09 Snartang's honorary leftist Chris Gaygun under Gaystahn's Big Juicy Breast Sege lays hands on the sick and kills them Swing set for GTA glitch Would Popeye win against
Starting point is 03:15:20 The lore accurate Superman? No No No Thank you for writing it Asking Pam Bondi If she's seen the Dow After her cancer diagnosis
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Starting point is 03:15:49 poor estrogen in Sweene's water supply you're not ready for that Canola Joe the man who drank a thousand comes gay actor Rosebud Delish gulping Sween's ass sweat sorry I can't I had a burrito Venezuela watching a heath taco from Japanese bell Gids when is Derek's butthole cam coming.
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Starting point is 03:16:25 A lying cunt who protected pedophiles and gets throat cancer. Did Kajima write this? Clever at all. Benjamin Netanyahu has a hive worm. It's the reason he loves war. I mean, sounds believable. Yeah. He's just old from that era.
Starting point is 03:16:42 They're so war-hungry that period of time. It's crazy. It is nuts. The queen of Systematic, I woke up and saw my beautiful wife. Wait, I don't have a wife. She turned into a puddle. Spum befudders, Lily turning into a puddle of reeking foamy piss on the night of Sween's way. Reeking foamy piss is crazy.
Starting point is 03:17:03 Seven feet tall, 500-pound crows. Crash Bandicoot, the big wo. Spurs FC, we're finals bound, baby. Oh shit. Boehner Supreme. Game once today. It is? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:16 Dude, man, I'm a little nervous. I'm upset to admit that I'm a little nervous. I mean, right now odds on favorite are Spurs, obviously, because of Wimby, but, bro, I mean, hey, they had the, they always have the NBA Cup now in the middle of the season. And the Knicks won it actually against the Spurs, which is interesting. So they've already beaten them. They know how to beat them. They're way more healthier right now, which is very fucking important.
Starting point is 03:17:42 I think the Gooner Supreme. The Knicks have a good fucking chance. But if Wimby shows up, you know, obviously you become superhuman, then, you know, maybe they'll win it in like six games. So see,
Starting point is 03:17:54 I think the Knicks winning the way we did gives us so much like steam. Because that first game was like a deciding factor. And if you could put another one of those, we just win. there's just no way they're beating us again because that broke the will of the fucking what you're going to see man we'll see I'm excited
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Starting point is 03:18:29 Episode 3 whirling derfish I don't know What the fuck's that? enjoying his pinini. That's that show that they were telling us was real that had like a ridiculous premise that I've never seen. Oh, right, right, right. Smitchie enjoying his pinini,
Starting point is 03:18:44 his pinini, I'm sorry. Mr. Jimmy Jam, Wally's arch nemesis, Floro. That's crazy. Stupid. Ulong, Gunaside, purposely running over butterflies when moaning, organizing my gun cabinet by mouthfeel. I remember that name. I remember you. Welcome back.
Starting point is 03:18:59 Makar, guy so gay, he sucked dick in the womb. Star-Caw. casting Chris as height accurate Nickknack in 007 That's crazy Who's Nickknack? Let me look this up.
Starting point is 03:19:11 Prepare to be disappointed. You know you're going to be disrespectful You know that. You know you're already being disrespected So it's prepared for that, you know? Henschman, knickknack. Nickknack 00-7
Starting point is 03:19:26 7-0 my favorite series. Oh, I thought it was this nigger. That's a, uh, I knew it was going to be this guy Because he's from that He's from that island show The What is it just called the island?
Starting point is 03:19:46 I can't remember I don't know Boss Ziplane They fucking had a reference to it In When you think about like When people say Oh cartoons are for kids and stuff
Starting point is 03:19:56 And Gilligan's Island Um No It's like a rich island I can't fuck Um Oh it's I live niggas
Starting point is 03:20:04 I've seen this Hold not Boss I just type Fantasy Island Boss I just put in boss Deplane deplane de plane Deplane de plain
Starting point is 03:20:13 And there's like references to it It's a very old thing It's the same guy It's the knickknack I guess And this guy's the same fucking person Apparently I was watching something recently About Fantasy Island
Starting point is 03:20:23 Where like it was like a basis For something For some big pop culture thing But it was like such an old reference That no one would have Oh what the fuck Whatever I don't care
Starting point is 03:20:36 Yeah I was just saying I was watching Doug Doug, you know, Doug the show, Nickelodeon, there's a fantasy island reference in it.
Starting point is 03:20:42 As a kid, obviously had no idea what the fuck that was. And I got older, I'm like, that's crazy. I was like, that's like,
Starting point is 03:20:47 that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, the plane. Like, that's in so many things. Yeah,
Starting point is 03:20:51 Roger. Roger was that guy. He's like, boss, the plane is fucking little Roger. It's like, it's, they say for fucking kids, man.
Starting point is 03:21:00 What the fuck is that? What the fuck was that? I think young teens could know about that. For me, I know about it that only because of person in their houses. And I guess they assume that there's some sort of family unity, but
Starting point is 03:21:12 that shit ain't real. We put old people on homes nowadays, brother. Hell yeah, slam dunk. What you mean? Slamed dunk, dude. I'm doing 360 fucking fucking fucking all my granddad did was tell me, how my granddad did was tell me how to teach me how to read a bike, teach me about racial equality. Wait, what you say? What you say?
Starting point is 03:21:28 You say, what you say? My grandpa told me how to teach me how to read a bike. Right. You said it twice. You said again? I guess ride a bike. All that nigga told me I do was ride a bike and teach me about racial equality. That's why he's, that's why you hate him. Sweet.
Starting point is 03:21:49 He never taught you purposely didn't teach you how to ride a bike. He's like, he's fucking asshole. My grandpa was really cool, man. I'm so sad that people have like, a lot of people have shitty grandparents. My grandpa was really awesome. Yeah, usually grandparents are usually kind of cool.
Starting point is 03:22:07 sometimes, you know, like, I feel like modern grandparents are not cool. I guess I would have, particularly. I just think of, like, the image of, like, how a lot of people's grandmothers and grandfathers are, especially the grandmother's usually very sweet. Usually. Yeah, I loved my grandparents.
Starting point is 03:22:24 Yeah. Yeah. I did two once upon a time. Do Goldstein be like Nintendo Switch 2? More like Nintendo Switch, too? More like Nintendo Switch. Need I go on? Hey, yo. I don't know if I get it.
Starting point is 03:22:37 I just pretended like I did. Huey, look, Homelander turned me, Erie. Look, I'm glad to turn me into a cube, Huey. Oh, Hugh. Butcher. So they turned him into a key, he's a cube, though. He's the cube.
Starting point is 03:22:55 I'm not going to lie. If I heard him, I would tolerate it way more just because of how it was Carl Urban. If it was Carl Urban doing Butcher's voice exactly, I would have been a lot more ecstatic about it. I really would have tolerated way more. because it's just like, O'ie, O'fray. Now it's
Starting point is 03:23:08 O'ry. It was this little call there. Do not call me a cunt. Oh, let's shut up, bitch. Buky de Pepo. You want to go back and get a little slice.
Starting point is 03:23:20 Stupid dumb bitch, Derek connection is failing even in person. Craig the Canadian, the pun is always intended dumbass. Afterlife. It's your boy,
Starting point is 03:23:31 Shawnee D. Rape Pete Parsons. It's crazy. At Grock, is this true? Big Sween-Ar. toucher to the guy who cut me off hope a flying roach gets stuck in your car
Starting point is 03:23:40 when you're in the and it cuts off sorry. That's nice. You've got to be more brief with your names. I'm sorry. It's not my fault. It's literally Patreon. Goatee guy. Just read, just 100% in Red Dead 1 moving on to Dragon Age Inquisition. God damn, 100%
Starting point is 03:23:56 is it? That's insane. There's no way that's true, by the same. Reverse add of Do you have a jot? Like, what do you do? Yeah. Unless you mean you're 100% beat the story, but because otherwise, bro, 100% of that? Okay. Reverse Adam being forced by polar bear to drink from the vegetable juice of something.
Starting point is 03:24:17 It cuts off. In sixth grade, I got in trouble for laughing at footage in the challenge. Showson, Dr. M.H, Lord of Colin doubling down. Dave Rubin got gang raped on Jubilee, LaMau. Dick's so dirty. They call me Richard Nixon. Worst Game of the Year guy. Just finished custard revenge moving on to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Starting point is 03:24:32 Bioware, give me Jade Empire remastered or a new game. uh... mocked you think you're gonna get jane empire is fucking awesome yeah but mocked uncle ben he mocked my uncle uh my mom loves guys common anal sex that's why i am like i am because i am like her gay earth a kit be like i want to be evil goon devil and his estranged teacher dick uh chris going to the theaters to watch street fighter and loudly masturbating whenever i assume cammy is the next probably i'd yeah it cuts off yeah brilliant Yeah, Chris knows who he is.
Starting point is 03:25:09 Dude, Cammy, I still crank it to Cammy, are you kidding? Wage slave 583, Fly Girl Fighting her archedemesis, Red Fairy on the streets of old York, Papini brothers, hoping that Dogeo Kajima gets the voice in the last episode of Smiling Friends,
Starting point is 03:25:22 Donk-Donkerson, Dixon butts, gay thoughts or son-daughter, Pee-P, Chris, the kind of guy to drink water and think he needs it. F-sler. The ridges on coins were started so people couldn't clip the edges to keep some of the, and it cuts off.
Starting point is 03:25:37 007 is peak. More games should let you throw guns. Yeah, that's a fun. That's true. That is not a mechanic. That's a very rare mechanic, actually. It's in some things. I know in Indiana Jones you can do that also.
Starting point is 03:25:52 You can like turn the gun, like when you run out of ammo, you can turn it over and use it as a melee weapon and throw it. It's really cool. Like, I don't know why this is a thing that's only happening now, but it's mega satisfying in 007. Because you run out of ammo and just like, tell the guy that.
Starting point is 03:26:05 the head. It's so cool. It does make sense. Sweeney landed on the bed with Derek looking up in him. The mean lesbian in Michigan. Oh, the meanest lesbian in Michigan. Blacklondads.com John Strickland. And final stretch. If macho man can riff like that with a coffee creamer,
Starting point is 03:26:23 then you don't need AI for your... But I agree. I agree with the sentiment. It's a great promo. The first church of Keith David presents Jojo versus Lully, Battle of the Beards. Help, I shot my wife. I miss my wife.
Starting point is 03:26:39 Preeze. Pam Gandhi. Napster of Puppets, dink without money. My penis has the same power as the Wabajack. Dick's so floppy they call it in HGA. There's a quantum leap episode that takes over the body of Lee Harvey Oswald. Is that true? Wait, what?
Starting point is 03:26:58 There's a what? There's a quantum leave episode where he takes over the body of Lee Harvey Oswald. No, fuck. Shut the fuck up. That's awesome as fuck, though. Monkey monks, monkey monastery. Don't call it a comeback. I never stop coming.
Starting point is 03:27:10 Young Sweeney being taken on a South African safari trip. King Dad to hunt endangered something. Dig up a Jewish grave and finding a two can skull. That's quick. Wait, I don't know if I get it. Because of the nose, Chris, because of the nose. That's so poor taste, man. Holy shit.
Starting point is 03:27:37 It's pretty good. That is crazy. It's like the Jordan joke. Oh, my God. This is Jordan. Did you hear the joke before he left? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:27:49 Jordan said. Time out. Time out. So we were going through jokes, right? And Jordan said Indian George Floyd, I can't be. Oh my God That is probably one of the funniest jokes I've heard in my life That is
Starting point is 03:28:14 That is probably one Only because it's so out of pocket It's so out of pocket It's just like It's disgusting Unfortunately there is a level of cleverness to it Yeah I was telling you this at that party
Starting point is 03:28:25 I was just like what a useless Like talent This is so clever this is you're wasted you're wasted can't take that anymore Jordan Jordan is funny I can't be
Starting point is 03:28:38 that he's Indian George Floyd I can't be it's pretty funny So fucking evil It's a It's funny He's funny He's not useless You see that role
Starting point is 03:28:47 You see that Merle that There's a guy skating Kind of like a slow motion And it's like it's like following the road It's like a sick thing And then he's like passes by a muriel You only see it for like two seconds But it's George Floyd
Starting point is 03:28:59 I can't breathe then he doesn't have a nose. And like somebody painted that on the wall. Somebody paint a, like a proper mural, but then they like painted over the nose. Probably. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 03:29:11 And somebody might have did an addendum and like it. And then that I don't think any human being, I don't think any human being that could think that's a good picture would also be able to paint. Like I don't think, I don't think those people's getting at the same time. I feel like I should have more saying how this goes.
Starting point is 03:29:30 Reverse Jesus had a virgin feather. Wait, Reverse Jesus had a virgin father emerging from a puddle of jizz in a fine palace. That's badass. 360 pounds and jumping in the elevator to scare strangers, putting my dry jizz in your vents. Dry jizz. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:29:49 Shim pool. The brainworm piloting the idiot flesh mack. France has been getting too many Ws. Let's nuke them. taking Sweene behind an Arbys and in a sack and hitting it with hammers and other various objects. Aetherian has the past because he took a loss of his hard ass. Pergerian hunter officially has a daughter.
Starting point is 03:30:10 Al Bundy at the hospital for circular incision. I read that as AI Bundy at first. As I stay prying his butt cheeks apart. Oh, is that as I lay dying? That's not bad. Oh. Naferam and rounding out our list as always. You know who it is, the king of haphazard.
Starting point is 03:30:36 Yay. Wow. I can't come and take it anymore. Get penis out of me. I can't suck more cock. Yeah. All right. That's it.
Starting point is 03:30:49 I'm leaving. All right. Blessed tomorrow. What about Ruben Park? What about? Like, we have a Dave Ruben cover, Lincoln Park cover band. What is it called? Ruben Park.
Starting point is 03:30:59 Yeah, it's called Ruben Park. And then instead of in the end, it's giving, I'm gay. Crawling in my skin, Dave Rubin. These rules are crawling in my husband. Crawling in my gay husband. I love this big ass penis. My gay husband has the same name as me. His name is David Rubin.
Starting point is 03:31:19 I'm ending my recording.

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