The Snark Tank - #64: Jonathan Young

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

This week the boys are joined by YouTube Metal Man, Jonathan Young! His new project "Starship Velociraptor" is out on 4/3/21 but for now, lets nerd out about Metal, Rock, Covers, YouTube algorithms an...d MORE! Is Music Theory really that complicated? What is the best guitar tuning? This is an extra nerdy episode as far as music goes so, sorry if you're not a music guy lol Check out Jonathan Young's YouTube Channel Here: - https://www.youtube.com/user/jonathanyoungmusic Jetpack Race by Jonathan Young from "Starship Velociraptor" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvDtfJYfLBg&ab_channel=JonathanYoung DragonBall Z: Budokai 2 w/ Jonathan Young + Lyle Rath - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ivft3TrcII&ab_channel=JonathanYoungAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:01:56 Welcome to an episode, another one of these, another snark tank podcast with me, Derek, Sweeney. And we got a guest today. We got a, the music man, Jonathan. The metal man right here. I feel like John's come up like several hundred times, I feel like on this podcast because we'll like mention all good, don't worry. Never to like, yo, fuck his music for real, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Like it's the worst thing ever. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to be honest if there was a podcast out there where people are just, man, that guy fucking sucks. I mean, just ultimate haters. I mean, it's, look, look, I'll say this, I have for sure had seen people do such talented things that my first thought is fuck them just because of how talented
Starting point is 00:02:44 because it's just like it's so good I feel it I feel it you're like god damn that's so good imagine just someone for just putting music on the internet like that's just so mean just like fuck this guy not even like I don't like it no fuck you it's so vibe
Starting point is 00:02:59 I can I can kind of like I remember when I first saw like when I first saw the first video I ever saw of like somebody like shredding on guitar. I was like, fuck this guy. Because I was just like, I can't do this. I'm so bad at that shit. Like, I can do like rhythm maybe.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You know, but like the second it gets into like solo shit, I'm like, I wish I possessed that weird, that insane skill, because I just can't fathom it. I'm just too lazy to practice. I'm just too lazy to practice. That's what it really comes down to. Yeah, there it is. See, it's easy to be like me. Don't have any musical talent. See,
Starting point is 00:03:31 that's how you save yourself for that hatred, you know, so you just be impressed by people. See, that's, that's, That's where you're wrong, though, dude. Like, talent doesn't exist. That's my first of probably many hot takes. I'm going to drop about music while I'm here, dude. Like, seriously, though, like, all it is is just the hours.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Because everything about music is literally just pattern recognition. And then, like, on a technical level, it's no different than, like, memorizing keyboard inputs for your favorite, like, video game or something. But you have to hit every button at the exact moment. He's throwing math at me right now, and I'm getting angry. Yeah, yeah. But, like, that's the thing, is it, like, people get mad. Usually when I, like, drop that take because then they're like,
Starting point is 00:04:17 fuck, I could have played guitar then, you know? Like, I don't know. One of the best guitars I know, my buddy Rich, uh, Richotti B on YouTube, he, like, he, like, didn't know anything about music at all. Like, he's told me this story, like, several times. He basically just, like, he saw, like, some, I don't remember what was he saw like some like prog metal guitarist or something and he was just like I'm gonna learn how to play guitar so he literally like just played for like four hours every day for like two years
Starting point is 00:04:48 and now he's like one of the craziest shredders I know like it's he literally just put in the hours yeah I feel like that's always I think there's always a certain level of like a innate born ability though well I just think there's one big difference in music right is just like people who kind of have what they call perfect pitch and then and the people who don't where yeah but i don't know anybody with perfect pitch i know a ton of really good musicians actually no i know one guy with perfect pitch and he's like this uh this blind kid from my hometown and uh the only reason he has perfect pitch i guess is because like he he can't see so it's like his his hearing is so much more in tune yeah it's like a daredevil scenario yeah i don't i think yeah i i i i i think yeah i i i
Starting point is 00:05:34 At least I feel like from, because everything, I would always write music completely in my head and everything, I could hear everything and everything would match. I could harmonize everything until I don't know what happened. I think I just recently found this out. I would say late last year that now I hear two different pitches in each ear. And it completely throws me off. Because before I was able to just nail everything.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Now like I started, I realized it when I was starting. starting to do a kill switch cover and I couldn't get it right and I was going insane. I thought it was my interface. I couldn't figure it out until I started isolating and hearing that like it's like a half step up on my right ear. It makes no sense. My doctors are like, oh, fuck you. That's a really oddly specific condition.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It's strange, but I looked it up and some people do have it. There's actually even like an acronym for what people call it or something. I think it's called imagination, but you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, man. Yeah. Before that, though. You've just gone insane.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Just disinvalued situation. You're going to something genuinely that bothers you. And I'm like, I don't think it's real. Yeah, I guess like my main thing, like, I grew up. Like, my extended family was pretty religious. And every time that I would, like, do anything musical, the first thing that they would always do is, like, associate it with, like, wow, God gave you a gift.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh, yeah. And it's like, and so like maybe that's sort of like why I'm biased about like really jumping down people's throats about the whole like inborn talent thing is because like almost every time that I've seen somebody like bring that up and be like, wow, they were born talented. Every time I see somebody say that, they're always referring to a musician who has practiced for thousands of hours. Yeah. You know? And so I've had people say that to me and like I fucking sucked when I started. You know what I mean? Like, and I can remember that very, very clearly.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Like, when I first started singing in high school, because I was just a drummer. And I first started singing and playing guitar basically because I couldn't find anybody that wanted to be in a band with me. So I was like, fuck it. I was just do it myself. And when I first started posting recordings on the internet, like when Facebook was first a thing. like I had just like random kids from my high school that I had classes with just like commenting and being like bro this fucking sucks you should stop that's so wild yeah kids that's that's so much that's so much worse than like random like anonymous people on the internet
Starting point is 00:08:18 when you know that like these are people that you're gonna like run into conceivably like frequently like I know Jerry fuck Jerry sits next to me in lunch yeah that asshole yeah that's why honestly I'm so much more comfortable because when I started playing music, like I started when I was like eight but I didn't like pray, I didn't take it like super super seriously but I've been like playing it on and off
Starting point is 00:08:40 for like a really big long time and recently like in the last like couple years my sister was like you should you should perform it at my wedding and I was like oh no I don't want to do that like I'm far more comfortable in front of like thousands of random people
Starting point is 00:08:59 on the internet that I know I'll never come across than I am in front of like people that I know for a fact I'm going to see the next day 100% yeah 100% I don't want to show up to New Year's in like a year and just know that they're thinking like oh that's that's Chris you remember how bad that fucking cover whatever the fuck was
Starting point is 00:09:15 while they're in your house damn my mom doesn't understand that yeah my mom doesn't understand that at all where she's multiple times at like family functions who's tried to get me to play guitar or something to the point where when her when her mom died a couple years ago, we went to the funeral and like my uncle is a drummer for the church and she tried to get me to go up there. And I'm like, you, you, you just don't,
Starting point is 00:09:40 like, you don't like, like, I can play, I played a bunch of shows at like venues with random people and I sucked ass and I didn't even care. But then like the family in their morning and I'm just like, are you fucking, I was like, you don't understand, do you? Yeah. Did she make you do it still? I didn't do it. I refused. I was like, dude, like, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Like, It's going to be, I feel like everyone's going to hate me, and they're going to be like, oh, man, I wish he was in that coffin instead. You know, like, I just, I'm good. Man, that got heavy. I was just like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:10:11 They're going to wish that I was dead taking his place. Man, fuck. That is hilarious. You should have done it, bro. I mean, it's just, oh, fuck, no, dude. I can't play in front of, like, family and stuff like that. Or unless it was one of those moments where the venue was so big that I can't. see them you know they're just sitting in some like orchrist nosebleeds seats and I'm like
Starting point is 00:10:33 oh yeah some of my family's there or some shit but I don't know that's wild it's weird for me hearing you guys like tell these stories because like well that and this is like another another like checkmark against my my little debate team argument against inborn talent is like my family is like all musicians like uh my dad like did a lot of songwriting and my mom plays piano and my extended family like my cousin that I like really looked up to as a kid is like a band teacher now and like there's like a drum set in like five different houses in my extended family that I would like go to for Christmas and like that's like why I play drums is because like you know I would go I would go to like my aunt's house for Christmas or whatever and like
Starting point is 00:11:20 my mom wouldn't let me play on my cousin's N64 so the only thing sitting there for me to play with was the fucking drum set. You know what I mean? So it's like... Yeah. And that's like the only reason why I like got into this stuff is because like, you know, we, my family, we didn't watch football games. We've like...
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah. Like jammed together, which like, you know, that's kind of weird and kind of cool. But it's like, you know, I mean like that. But I think that, um, one thing that I see a lot of me, musicians in particular, like, kind of struggle with is like, as soon as they start getting good, they kind of like disconnect on like, how did I get here? And I try to be like super down to earth about like, yo, like I got to be good at this stuff because like of the people around me and because of like the amount of time that I put into it. And then if you have that mentality,
Starting point is 00:12:21 and this is always like the the punctuation that I'm not. I put at the end of my kind of like my spiel about like inborn talent is that even if inborn talent exists, you will be better off believing that it doesn't exist. Because if you believe, if you believe that nobody is born with talent, then you'll work harder and you'll act as though you can achieve being good at guitar or whatever. You'll act as though you can get that just by putting hours in like you would with a video game. And I just think that's like a more productive mindset, you know what I mean? I for some reason
Starting point is 00:12:58 never thought about the video game analogy even though it's like really obvious. Yeah, dude, like I could talk about that for the rest of the podcast. Like I could talk about like how how music is literally just pattern recognition. Like that's that's one of my favorite things to fucking Ted talk about.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think I'm in between where it's like I don't know if I agree that like um people are just born talented. I do think that generally, like there is a possibility that people might just be born with a chemical makeup that, like, makes the proclivity of understanding it a little bit easier.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Right. But yeah, nobody's born, like, definitely, like Michael Jackson wasn't born dancing, you know, like out of the womb. I understand. People aren't born, like, amazingly godly, but I feel like some people that's born with, like, a little, like, you're probably going to understand this better slightly.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. I mean, think of it as like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, things can get things so insanely well in, in a particular, like, uh, in one particular, like, uh, it's just like there, and I feel like music can work that same way or anything else. And I always have these two big examples, uh, watching movies and seeing, uh, actors train for specific roles. And I think about, like, say, the matrix were just like, half a year of choreography, training was why it's so much better than most Western like fighting movies and uh or say walk the line with uh with with uh with Joker and Reese Witherspoon where they just they spent a lot
Starting point is 00:14:39 of time singing taking singing lessons and they sound pretty good where they're not singers at all and I'm like oh wow look look at how much how much improvement you can have if you actually like take this shit seriously and you put the hours into it and I'm always like that's really nice and then I never do it. Yeah. Yeah, I've thought about that for a while too, like just taking like vocal, like proper vocal courses or something. But because I don't even know, because I don't John, did you ever do like proper like vocal training or did you like learn entirely like on your own? So kind of, I never like took official vocal training lessons, but but I have. like four to eight very serious singers in my extended family.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And also like I was in like choir in high school and stuff like that. And like my dad was a church choir director for a while. So like I was never like officially taking vocal lessons. But like like I said, it's like I was surrounded by people that were doing that kind of thing. And the thing about like the thing about singing is that like the biggest like first step to becoming a good singer I feel. is like this sort of mental hurdle where when you're singing
Starting point is 00:15:57 you're physically using your diaphragm and your lungs differently than you're supposed to when you're talking. Most people when they talk, they're like really like not pushing very much air out and they're not like really thinking about the way that they shape their throat or their vocal cords at all.
Starting point is 00:16:16 But when you're singing, like you have to like friggin pump the air out. Like you really have to project in a way that, like most people go their whole lives, never needing to project air through their body like you're supposed to when you sing properly. Kind of like what you're saying about like some people just don't get it.
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Starting point is 00:17:38 Learn more at ASUonline.asu.org.org. And I always tell people, I get, like, like, fans emailing me videos of them singing and asking for advice and almost every single one, the first thing that I tell them is you have to pump more air. And part of it's like a confidence thing because like you feel like that's wrong
Starting point is 00:17:58 to be like projecting that much volume. So you kind of like subconsciously dial it back because you're like nervous about like if you're doing it right or whether or not you sound good. But like when you're singing like you're supposed to be like projecting like loudly if you're doing it right. And obviously there's some exceptions where like if you're
Starting point is 00:18:20 ha, like if you're singing falsetto, then, uh, you're singing differently. And if you're singing like a fucking indie pop, you know, whatever the fuck like,
Starting point is 00:18:28 Billy Elish that, but like those methods, the people who sing quietly are either doing it wrong or they've had years and years of training that has taught them how to push air properly while singing quietly. It's tricky. Like singing is one of those things that I think is a little bit more. That's,
Starting point is 00:18:46 I wouldn't say inborn, but that, that is another one of those things where it's, Like I just know some people who like I know for a fact Like you're just never you're just never gonna sound I can't sing yeah I can't sing for that I cannot sing for the life You can get better by as as of this state in my current state I'm talking about in my in my stage one
Starting point is 00:19:04 Right no no buffs no practice no grinding No buff I can't sing at all it's horrible I think I have a really good You're gonna get you there I have like a pretty good speaking voice I think But I do not have a singing voice at all I can't do it. Yeah. I sound hilarious. I squeak, then my voice cracks.
Starting point is 00:19:23 It's the worst shit ever. Yeah. You, John and Derek, you guys actually did something recently. You guys did. Yeah, which was, was, I got to say, it was, I'm glad it happened because it made me try a little bit harder with, with like, because I'm kind of just starting out, right? Just doing things and taking it more seriously. I've been jamming in bands for years, but I never did anything with the production process.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I would just, oh, I'm going to jump on the drums real quick, let's go play some shows. So when I reached out to you, Jonathan, I was like, all right, I don't think I'm necessarily ready to hit somebody up like you, but it's in the same, I learned a lot on the guitar when I played with my friend that was this prodigy.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He taught me a lot about alternate picking and scales and stuff, playing with him. and it was just night and day. Like this guy is a god and then I was just like, oh, yeah, I know how to play fucking Avenge Sevenfold. And so it was, I was really appreciative. To me, I'm like, okay, it sounds pretty good, but I feel like I wonder what Jonathan's thinking.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Just because, like, you know, dude, this is like, this is your field. Are you just, what if, is he just being nice? And he's like, oh, it sounds like shit, but I'll hook him up. Well, I mean, like, the, The thing is, man, like, I don't know. I've learned over the past few years of, you know, like doing the whole content creator thing. Like, you know, I've met so many people that fucking suck that have millions and millions of subscribers. And I've met so many people that are really, really good and have 10 subscribers.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So like I just don't really care anymore about that kind of thing. Like I don't like the, you know, I still work with like more established musicians because like that's part of my career. But when it comes to like, you know, when it comes to like the respect thing, like I don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? It's like I've seen how easy it is to make a bad musician look good enough to get two million subs. And I've seen how, you know, so I like I've seen. at all. Like, it's, like, how established you are has nothing to do with, like, how good you are. We live in a post-Ricegum world.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah. And, like, Jake Paul. Please don't bring him on. That's a great word. No, but it's true. It's like, yeah, no, I mean, like, it's a great point. Attention is very, very, like, there's no, it's not a meritocracy, you know, we, we don't live in, like, some kind of a fictionalized. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:22:12 That's a problem for me, dude. But that's not. how anything works though it's like it's oh I agree I agree dude it fucking sucks like I could I could sit here and cry for hours about how shitty it is that I have friends that are making beautiful beautiful music that they're pouring their heart and souls into and then I have you know I know other people that are just making just scooping the bottom of the barrel fucking grabbing the corporate table scraps in order to get you know optimal views and it fucking sucks but like it's for me for me like I don't
Starting point is 00:22:43 I'm not like a singer. I'm, I was a bit of a punk kid, of course. Like, everybody was born in 2000s that lived in that period of time. But I'm very hip-hop, very hip-hop heavy.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Like, I love. Yeah. Pop around my heart. Fuck, yeah. And then, like, when I see someone who's a terrible artist making a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:22:58 it hurts me to my core because there's so many beautiful artists that are just, like, not getting recognition. Yeah. So, like, that, like, it hurts me so bad. Because I'm not even,
Starting point is 00:23:07 I'm not even musically talented. But it's just like, damn, these people are, like, people that have been doing this they were like seven years old, like going to shows, going to battles, going to venues, you know, talking to people.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Like anything, then there's people like Rice Gum who just insulted the art for him and they're double platinum artists. And it's just like, what the yeah, what's going on here? Platinum. Yeah. Platinum. Rice Gum kind of, right, rice gum kind of fell off though. Like, I haven't heard anything about it in very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. He probably, like, secured his bag and then left. Yeah. I think, like, part of the. problem with that in the music industry. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, is like the music industry is really kind of like backwards in the sense that a lot of other big art trades are more skill and merit focused and less ego focused. Like you don't see anybody becoming a gourmet chef for the clout. You know what I mean? But like, you know, like you don't see anybody becoming an
Starting point is 00:24:12 architect for the clout, you know, like, but like music probably over half of the people that become or try to become musicians do it for the clout. So it's like there's this weird disconnect where like the whole motivation behind somebody making music in our culture, the way that we think about music in our culture is very ego driven and very like kind of selfish. And it's very detached from thinking about the craftsmanship of the music itself. Like, I love to, like, compare, like, the music world to, like, the, like, the visual art world or the, or, like, cooking. For some reason, I love comparing the music industry to cooking, because I feel like it points out how fucking stupid the music industry is. But, like, imagine if you went to culinary school and they only taught you how to make dishes look nice and they didn't teach you how to cook meat properly.
Starting point is 00:25:09 you know what I mean? Like that's like kind of where the music industry is at right now. Like nobody knows how to write a good melody. Nobody knows how to write a good chord progression. And those are all like imagine calling yourself a painter and not knowing how the rules of shadow and perspective work. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's literally how the music industry is right now.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's like everybody who is considered a professional in the music industry field, they're like painters that don't know how light and shadow works. It's like fucked to me thinking about this and it's so demoralizing because it's like it's the only artistic field where nobody's learning the basics. And I think it's like an ego thing. It's like people treat music like it's this vehicle for ego and for like whatever. Like it's the fame comes first and the craftsmanship of the music. come second and there's no other artistic field like that if you want to be a famous painter
Starting point is 00:26:15 you got to fucking paint some dope shit if you want to be a famous sculptor you got to make a dope sculpture that doesn't fucking you know fall over at the first thunderstorm you know but music that's a different fucking story man i think it's i think it's because it's just the the medium itself is so the consumption level i feel it is the amount we consume music they're not people just like run through songs you know people have a hard time consciously describing what good music is supposed to sound like, but people don't have any problem consciously describing what a good painting is supposed to look like. Because like the way that we learn as humans, uh, and you know, I'm no fucking behavioral psychologist or anything, but like,
Starting point is 00:26:56 we as a species seem to be very in tune with our eyes. We're very good at like, yeah, like processing information that comes from our eyes, but ears, not so much. So like, um, everything that makes a song sound good is usually something that flies under the radar of your subconscious and you can't explain how the notes are working together in a way that your brain likes. And that's like, that's my job is to like figure that shit out. And that's like another conversation. But like everybody understands that level of like music theory without realizing it on a certain level. but everybody has a hard time putting it to words
Starting point is 00:27:42 and that's like another thing that kind of sets music apart from these other artistic fields is that if somebody makes a sculpture of a human body and it looks wrong you can immediately tell but like if somebody makes a chord progression that doesn't quite sound right the most that you're probably going to say is that doesn't quite sound right
Starting point is 00:28:02 like it's you won't be able to put a finger on like hey that guy's face isn't shaped the way it's supposed to like you won't be able to do that with a chord progression yeah it's it requires a lot of interpretation like or even just like a lot of thought uh that most people could i feel like a lot of it's just yeah just the fact that it's such such an auditory medium and it's just hard to really pinpoint like the success starts with your drive an american public university is here to fuel it with affordable tuition and over 200 flexible online programs APU helps you help you help you gain the skills and confidence to move forward. Whether you're changing careers, starting fresh,
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Starting point is 00:30:06 I don't even really know why. I don't have any understanding. But like when I'm... The literal opposite. I can read music because my grandmother that was an organist and she can play, like, she didn't play an organ since before, like, before the 50s. So, like, she can play organ like her at, what her ass off. And I can somewhat play piano and like a very, I know chords in guitar, you know, that's about it.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah. But like... You're sitting here saying that you have no musical talent and you can read sheet music? I have no... I can't do it well. I'm not good at any... I'm not good at any of it, you know? Like, I can hit drums and make it sound.
Starting point is 00:30:38 somewhat decent, you know, but I'm not like good at stuff like that. But my grandmother is like the best organist I've heard in my life and she tried for a long time that's like help me grasp music. It's like, oh, this is how you read music. This is what these keys mean. This is what this means. This is what this means. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. And I eventually, I can like, if I give me a shit of music, I could probably read it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But to play it, I'll be like, ah, man, that's too much. That's another rabbit hole I could jump down is that like, I don't know. I feel like the way that people try to teach music theory is wrong. And everybody knows music theory. They just don't know that they know music theory. I don't know. This is cheesy and stupid. But if I were to sit here and, like, quiz you guys.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And if I were to sing, do, re me for soliti. Do. Do. Right. You guys know that that's not finished. You guys can hear that that next note wants to come after that. that's the entire basis of music theory. Everything that you hear, like every chord that sounds good with every other chord, that's
Starting point is 00:31:48 why. Like, so if you, like, everybody that's always like, oh, you know, I don't know any music theory, but you do, you just don't know the words to describe music theory. Because music theory is just like explaining what your brain already fucking wants to hear and like mapping it out. Mapping out like what combinations of notes your brain gets good chemicals from. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:16 I think there's a certain point like what song did I hear when I was way older? The chain. I just heard the chain and I knew that was a good song. I had no reason why I knew that was a good song. I was like out of nowhere. You know, I was like, oh, or I just heard like Freddie Mercury sing
Starting point is 00:32:30 when I was like six and I was like, this person just sounds good. I don't know why they sound good. I don't know why I agree with these things, but this makes sense to me in my little tiny brain. I've like just certain things kind of just, they kind of just escape genres, and it's like, oh, that's just a good song,
Starting point is 00:32:49 or that's good vocals for the most part. A lot of that can be described by, by, like, music theory because, like, a good, a well-written melody is kind of built like a well-written, like, character arc. Like, it usually has, like, rising tension and then falling tension and then resolution. So, and anybody can, anybody can pick that out.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And I wish I could fucking plug my, my keyboard in while I'm recording because I could, like, show you guys, but, and same with chord progressions. And this is, like, kind of like what you're saying about, like, genres. Almost every genre in the Western world still can be broken down to the same,
Starting point is 00:33:33 patterns of music. Like, for example, there's the concept of what what music theory has called the tonic chord. And basically, are you guys familiar with the concept of a song being in a certain key? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So if a song is in a certain key, the tonic chord is usually going to be the chord that is based off of the first note of whatever key that you're in. So if you're playing a song in the key of G, the tonic chord is the G. chord. And the reason that's important is because almost every chord progression in the key of G, you're going to feel like the key of, or excuse me, you're going to feel like the G chord in the
Starting point is 00:34:18 key of G is the starting point. And then it's also going to feel like the ending point. So a good chord, like, you could from a, even if you don't know anything about music, you could treat music like a fucking math equation and hypothetically build a good chord progression in the key of G by looking at these patterns and saying, okay, I'm going to go to a G chord and then a C chord and then a D chord and then cycling back to the home chord. And if you do that, everybody in the Western world is going to hear that and think, that's a solid chord progression because our brains want those chords to resolve. And I like off the top of my head, I can't think. think of any non-avanguard genres that don't follow that rule. You know what I mean? And like another
Starting point is 00:35:09 thing, almost all music, no matter what genre you're listening to counts to four. Yes, the four first. It either counts to four or it counts to three. Yeah. And that's like just pattern recognition. So like if you were to feed all of these different like psychology things into a into an AI, you could probably get it to eventually learn how to write a song that people would like, at least from a harmonic and melodic standpoint. So like... That's
Starting point is 00:35:36 so disconcerting. That's so weird. Yeah, but it's literally just a Sudoku puzzle. It's literally just pattern recognition. Yeah, yeah. And like if I wanted to, and there's other things too, like I was talking to some friends of mine about this. I was writing some like, some like fantasy metal
Starting point is 00:35:55 sea shanty Stott, like some Viking metal shirt. That sounds hilarious. And I started, I started, like, studying these, like, old, like, folk tunes from, like, Scandinavia and, like, Britain or Scotland or whatever. And you can notice these patterns where, like, I was talking about this tonic chord that's, like, your home bass chord. A lot of these folk tunes, so not only does most music count to four, but then it does sections
Starting point is 00:36:25 of four counts to four. So one count to four is called a measure or a bar. Yeah. And like when you hear rappers talk about bars. And it ends in a 16. You have to have a 16. Yeah. And it does, yeah, 16 bars.
Starting point is 00:36:38 So that's 16 counts to four. So a lot of times in a in, like almost every old sea shanty or folk tune or whatever, the chord progression will resolve to the tonic one chord before the end of the 16 bar phrase. So in a lot of other genres, you'll notice that the chord progression resolves at the very end point of the 16 bars. But in these folk tunes, I started noticing that the one chord was always resolving like two bars prior to the end of the section. And once you start to like break it down into these basic patterns, like I can right now write you something that sounds like an old Scottish folk tune. and as long as I observe that like that rule that I noticed in all of these folk songs, I can just replicate that.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And then it'll automatically sound more authentic. So there's all sorts of stuff like that where like if you study a genre, you can notice patterns in the way that they structure how they're setting up the chords and how they're setting up the melodies in each bar. And it's literally all just pattern recognition. That's so wild. And if you understand all of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And people don't like talking about this though because they like. like music being like this magical mystery thing that comes from your soul. So, I mean, people don't like recognizing the patterns because it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:38:05 looking behind the curtain and it kind of ruins the show. One of my good friends I always said that like music is this math. And if like, if we're taught like music alongside the time we're taught like basic arithmetic and like algebra stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:38:19 like a lot of people would just understand music in a way better way. And it's freaky because you're literally doing that right now. It's making me feel uncomfortable. Yeah. I was taught it. That's kind of the problem. It's like when I was learning music theory, I took in none of it because I was, I was taught it more like a language.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah. And like I was like, I fucking, I can't learn other language right now. I'm trying to learn all this other shit. Like, I'm just trying to learn math. I'm trying to learn how to do like fucking. People don't teach music theory properly. The way that people teach music theory right now is like 800 years behind.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah. Same to everything, dude. Math is like 2,000 years behind, bro. It's hilarious. The reason we're talking about, or the reason we're digging so deep into music stuff, obviously is because Jonathan Young is like, obviously, he's made a name for himself doing a lot of music. But you've also got something kind of cooking, right? I do. I have, I finally snapped.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I finally snapped after six years of making clickbait on YouTube. And, you know, I saw a lot of other musicians making a really. music and all of it like kind of like what I was saying everyone's just using the same four chords I got fucking sick of it and Every song that comes out these days It's about like one of five topics and it's always like the most cliche shit It's like I'm depressed. I'm partying You know I'm in love my relationship didn't work out. That's like every song that comes out nowadays, I'm like every song that comes out nowadays It's like the same four songs over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I finally snapped. I was like, you know what? I'm going to write the greatest fucking album ever made. And it's going to be about fucking laser pirates and dinosaurs because I don't fucking care anymore. That sounds amazing. So that's what I did. So my new album, Starship Velociraptor, the final chapter of my unraveling sanity. but basically I you know I just I wanted to I wanted to try and take myself less seriously and just like have a good fucking time basically using every trick that I know to make the dopest fucking like music that I can that goes as hard as possible but not being a dick about it you know what I mean yeah it's it's it's it's pretty fucking crazy I was I was kind of like taken I was I was really surprised when I got because you said you
Starting point is 00:40:51 sent me like a DM, I think, like, I think almost two months ago now, where you were like, hey, check this out. It was just like a random, like a drop box of like all the tracks on it. And I was like listening to it. I was like, this is some of the most insane shit I've ever heard. I just, it reminded me of, not that it sounds identical. I'm just saying like it reminded me back when you and Lyle did the Budikai thing. Just a strong focus on, like, melody and just, like, the playfulness of it and just, like, how hard it can go. I was like, this is so sick.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah, man. It really is, like, a sound that I don't think is at all common. Yeah, not at all. And, uh, slightly, bro. It's really, like, organized. It's, like, chaotic, but organized. And it kind of, what it reminds me of, it, it reminds me, uh, one of my favorite games in Mega Man X. There's, um, there's the, uh, that.
Starting point is 00:41:49 wow, I'm just brain farting right now. The, it's not a beaver. What is it? The volcano theme? Is it that one or no, it's a different one? No, no, no, no. What the hell is his name? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:41:59 It was right there. I was about to say it, and then it just left. That happened with a penguin? That's insane. No, no, he's not the, he's the dude that has the shields on. You got, you got to blast it off. He's not, he's like a beaver, but he's not armadillo. Armadillo.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I was like he's like a beaver, but he's not. It's an armadillo. I have never been more lost than I am right now. Yeah, yeah, because I fucked up. But anyway, there's a stage, you know, there's a stage Armadillo. And that track is something like, I was like, I love this because it takes me on such a wild ride. And I feel like one of the tracks I heard you release. And I was like, and I heard it because that was, you put it on Twitter like a long time ago where you're just kind of like showing like you.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I was just like, whoa, this is crazy. Like this is, I feel like I wanted to jump onto some shit. And like, I need to fucking go. and it makes sense. Like I saw your animated music video and I'm like, this is, this is perfect. This makes sense.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Thank you. Thank you, man. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, I don't know, man. Like, I love,
Starting point is 00:43:13 I love like metal music, but like, the metal community really fucking sucks right now because everyone is like, everyone in the metal community is like, too afraid of being called gay to ever try anything new. So,
Starting point is 00:43:26 like, like, like, it's like, so like, like everybody in the metal community is just like always so fucking serious and angry and like like they're like it's like it's just like angry sounding guitars and that's it and like there's no there's no synthesizers there's no like other instruments and that's why i kind of started going on this like fantasy metal
Starting point is 00:43:51 kick is because like i started seeing these like viking metal bands and like fantasy metal bands where they're just like they're they like have a a sword in one hand and a microphone in the other. That's so fucking badass. It's like, yeah, but it's like at the same time, it's like, they'll be like playing this super fucking hype metal song and like a fucking violin
Starting point is 00:44:12 player will jump out and just like start like fucking shredding on the violin and it's like, dude, that is so much more fun and fresh and interesting than all this shit that's happening in like the American metal scene. I think it's also just more
Starting point is 00:44:29 metal. Like the, idea that you just be like yeah you know I'm gonna bust a violin and a fucking xylophone out here because that's the thing man is that back when rock and roll and metal were new it was all about like breaking the rules and like you know pushing the boundaries and like metal has now become the status quo like metal has become the very thing that it's swore to destroy and like metal is just like constantly worried about like we have to sound like acdc or we have to sound like metallic Like every, or like, whatever, like, we have to sound like dream theater. Like, everybody is like so obsessed with emulating.
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Starting point is 00:45:41 I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
Starting point is 00:45:55 That's pretty awesome. I think I saw billboarded years recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan. America's Large Injury Law from, thanks for coming by the show.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. Old metal, because that's what's perceived as like the gold standard, that like we've kind of lost that rebellion that metal used to represent. And I'm just, I don't know. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to have some fun, man, and break some rules and fucking. Yeah. I do think that happens a lot with genre, like a lot of genres in general. Like, I feel like that happens whenever like, um, whenever they,
Starting point is 00:47:03 something that like is you know viewed through like particularly like rose colored glasses like like I know this happens a lot with like um like trap and like uh hip hip hip hip hop right now specifically like uh like the whole mumble rap thing where it's like everybody hates mumble rap because it's just like yeah you know whatever it's just the thing that's constantly everywhere and everything kind of sounds the same it's like why can't we go back to like fucking i don't even know like yeah too park oh you're making me mad but i'm allowed you to continue your point I can continue I'm probably into Jack
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's the same thing It's the same thing with punk It's like A lot of punk sounds the same And I love punk And there's bands that sound like Exactly the same as they did 10 years ago That I still like
Starting point is 00:47:45 But like I'm also like You know it's like I wish I wish a lot of these bands Would kind of just fuck around And do something weird Every now and again Because it gets You know
Starting point is 00:47:54 The idea that like metal is just Oh it needs to be It's heavy guitars and heavy drums And that's it That's really an American thing because if you go, what's you go like, say, across the pond, I mean, like the genre of a power metal, for example,
Starting point is 00:48:08 is that's like a huge staple. And that's always been one of my, it's one of my favorite genres without thinking about it. Because usually when I'm thinking about it, like when I'm working out, when I'm chilling, I'm usually have on something like, oh, I put on some Dream Evil or I put on some like Sabaton or something
Starting point is 00:48:26 that has a lot of keyboards, huge choruses. They're talking about history or they're talking about slaying dragons and shit. Like it's it's so much more fun and it sounds way better and I love when people play around like you're saying in the experiment I think of this I used to run on the treadmill to this one track called I think it's called and we run by uh within temptation featuring oh yeah no not DMX exhibit yeah it was a weird crossover that it's like what the hell is this but it just worked and it it infected me and I loved running to it and I'm like I want to make shit like this and And I have one song I've been sitting on for a long time, but I just, I'm like, I need to work it out.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And I don't think, I don't have the proper vocals. Kind of like how you were, you were covering some Sabaton. And I was like, yeah, see, that's why I, I was like, I'm not going to fuck with Sabaton because, like, I can't. Do it. It's fucking do it. Look, man. Do it. Just do it, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Look, I'll. Don't make me pull up my videos from 2013, dude. I sounded like shit You just got to do it You just got to Because if you want to sound like Sabatine You got to start today You know what I mean dude
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah that's gonna be hilarious That's good advice I'll definitely give it a shot Because I uh yeah you I was like Yeah when you did it I probably will do it Because I've really
Starting point is 00:49:48 I really been wanting When that song Bismarck came out I was like I gotta fucking cover that song It's just I don't know Something about it That uh Yeah So yeah
Starting point is 00:49:56 But yeah I totally agree with you man And it's yeah there's that weird I hopefully a wave of that stuff were certain sentiments basically the whole like the the Lamb of God style
Starting point is 00:50:09 where they were talking about it in a Kill Switch documentary where they were just like nobody smile on stage nobody and I was like that's stupid dude like it's so dumb that's why I love Adam from Kill Switch
Starting point is 00:50:20 oh he's the best I love Adam from Kitt like he just he'll like fucking get in a chicken suit on stage with like all these super serious metal heads and he's and he's like one of the greatest producers in modern metal and a like a crazy guitarist and he just like doesn't give a fuck and he like will constantly troll people especially like in the serious metal community he just like is the only guy
Starting point is 00:50:47 who can like step back and not take himself so seriously yeah so that reminds you of guar when they come out on stage with those like ridiculous like fucking power ranger villain costume. That sounds ridiculous. I love that shit. Because like, I don't know, man. I feel like music,
Starting point is 00:51:07 there's such a big culture of like escapism happening right now that's like surging because of things like D&D and things like video games where like people want to just like step outside of the shitty real world. And like music isn't keeping up with that.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Like, except for, for like power metal and fantasy metal obviously but it's like most mainstream music is like strictly rooted in singing about my yeah like my real relationship or my real money or my real you know depression or whatever like nobody's writing songs about like just escaping and like just imagination you know what i recently got into a genre called like paper twitch which is like uh i mean i was like sam gallantry uh sort of similar k trainata Mr. Carmack and certain like things like that that are like more like the trapby
Starting point is 00:52:01 but they went to this whole land like land and they have a lot of like real like outside of thinking like music where it's like my favorite artist in the group Sam Gallantry he has a whole trilogy of albums called Escapism and it's like very refreshing to see like just to hear like different kinds of sounds like it's one song that sounds like flowers
Starting point is 00:52:24 from a cartooner like singing to you as you like go through and as a weird like tropical jungle feel. Then there's another one that has like a real like sort of like Chinese like old old Asian sort of song feel. Then it's like you're running on mountains with a dragon beside you. It's just like these super weird kinds of sounds. And I'm like this is like refreshing because I love like gritty like New York hip hop obviously. But every now and then to switch it up to that is like really refreshing to me. It feels good. A lot of a lot of punk especially is like very very rooted in in like just shit that's happening because like the whole point
Starting point is 00:52:57 It was like, it's just like, hey, here's, uh, here's just, we're going to sing about like everything that's wrong politically about like what's happening right now or whatever the fucking that. That's like fun for a while, but it gets so sad and depressing if it's just all, if it's just all you're hearing. I think you can still do that through the, through the escapism lens. Yeah, yeah. But with like metaphors.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah, no, exactly. I was trying to do that a little bit on, on this new album. Like, I have a couple songs that are like kind of about fighting the power, but it's through the lens of like fighting the power. end of the power is like this evil king or whatever it's like instead of but like I feel like that's more accessible too it's like definitely yeah like the the whole idea of like writing this like angry song that like name drops George Bush like I love you Green Day but like I feel like that's a little played out now and like people are kind of like fatigued by constantly being like reminded of all
Starting point is 00:53:53 of this stuff and I think that kids that are kind of tuning all of that out they might be more encouraged to get involved in something like politics if we were able to frame it through this like still having fun but we're also
Starting point is 00:54:10 you know anti-capitalist pirates or something yeah I mean yeah I don't know I think it's a lens that they can see it through properly yeah like giving them the real thing that they won't grasp I understand that yeah there's a lot of songwriting that's like very blatant and it kind of takes like the fun out of like the, because it's,
Starting point is 00:54:27 lyricism is poetry, I think. I think it's, you know, the whole point is to just make something that sounds like it's not about what it is about, kind of, but kind of still getting that point across. And it's like, yeah, the whole like Green Ed George, like I remember, I love bad religion, but like they put out a song like a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:54:48 that was like, I think the kids are alt-right. And I was like, oh my God. Yeah. I hated that. It's just so overt. I like the song, though. Calm down. Well, the song is a bop, man.
Starting point is 00:54:58 But what I really didn't like about it is that it was such a disconnect because they didn't know. They don't know exactly. They think they're like the alt-right are the Nazis of yesterday and where they don't get anything as far as internet culture. The alt-right took that song and we're like, this is the shit. They made something about us and they celebrated it. Oh, man. Awkward. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:55:22 That's what, like, that's what sadded me. I was like, fuck. Yeah, you want to be, you want to be a little bit more vague. Just put a little bit more songwriting into it, you know? Like, don't just, like, write your literal... Because a lot of songs like that just come across, like, Twitter feeds. You know, like, here's my Twitter feed, but I put it to a chord progression. And it's like in the key of fucking A-flat.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And it's like, I don't know, it's just... It's weird, but I know metal for a while. Like, metal I found really, really inaccessible for a really, really long time, because I was just listening to, like, a lot of stuff that was just like, oh, anger and anger, ah, I'm so mad. And it's like, okay, like, it's a good guitar, I guess, but, like, I don't really, I wouldn't care to listen to this. And then it wasn't until I found, like, Swedish stuff that I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:06 oh, this is so sick. Like, um, uh, I, I listen to, like, a lot of Amaranth because it just sounds so, like, it sounds so, like, like, energy. I love that band. Yeah, it's like energetic and it's like metal Disney almost. And it's like, this is so sick. I love this. For me for metal
Starting point is 00:56:23 I hated metal for a long time Because I never thought the people that were singing The metal sounded good for years I just don't feel like they sound good Also coming from like a very soul Background of like Motown and shit I was like I don't think like this And then like I found this one metal song
Starting point is 00:56:39 Where it was this lady who was just singing like Who was just singing like Whitney Houston And like a metal band And I was just like what the fuck She sounds great And this sounds great This music sounds great And I was just like
Starting point is 00:56:50 okay and then like yeah it just fell I was on like a little bit of a metal kick and I played um devil may cry five like a year or two ago and that song is full of a made you even did devil trigger action I'm mistaken yeah I was just like this is insane I love this music it's melody man like melody it's very important honestly like even in the realm of like video games I feel like melody has like success starts with your drive and American public university is here to fuel it with affordable tuition and over 200 flexible online programs, APU helps you gain the skills and confidence to move forward. Whether you're changing careers, starting fresh, or pursuing a lifelong passion, our programs are designed for people who never stop. You bring the fire, APU will fuel the journey.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Learn more at APU. APU.orgian here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going Good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw billboarded years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and batter and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. melody used to play such a like a way stronger role in like older video games and like even even some like early from like early in the 2000s whereas like now like if you hear the soundtrack to the if you hear the theme to the latest triple a like new IP you're just like what is even the melody here like yeah because yeah and that that goes back to partially what I was saying earlier like a lot of modern people like a lot of modern musicians aren't ever learning how to write a good melody yeah it's crazy or or they're being told by this fucking corporate super giant call of duty company or whatever that they need to pump out they need to pump out a fucking theme song for a game in the next five days
Starting point is 00:59:26 and like yeah like exactly what you're saying it's like yeah like melody is king man and it's like uh all of that like everything about writing a good melody you got to train to learn how to learn how to do that stuff. And a lot of modern shitty melodies are all motif-based. So basically, like, I don't want to get you guys content claimed. But if you think about the, if you think about the melody to like any like Taylor Swift song or like any Katie Perry song, it's usually just three notes repeat it. It's like three notes, copy paste, and that's the melody. right? And the best melodies
Starting point is 01:00:12 that you hear if you think about like the main theme songs from each region in like Lord of the Rings or if you think about like the Star Wars theme, that melody lasts for like fucking 16 bars and it just like builds up up up up and then it brings you home. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that is like training and like knowledge of how all these different parts work and you have to understand chord progressions because a melody will only work if the chord progression
Starting point is 01:00:44 underneath it lines up and backs it up that's another fucking yeah yeah five-hour conversation but but yeah like like you guys are absolutely right like melody used to be much more important but i think well i think it still is i think that it's just so not it's not as utilized as i feel like it used to right and it's it's a real shame it's easier to clickbait people with one little catchy bar. Yeah. Because that's what it is. It's like if I can make one bar that's catchy and copy paste it, that's like more efficient
Starting point is 01:01:17 and quicker than it is to, you know, to pay fucking Howard Shore or Hans Zimmer, you know, however many thousands of dollars to write like the most iconic theme ever. It's like not these corporations don't want to invest money into the music art of it because they can't like the they they they will see a hype dub step beat that some intern throws together for a call of duty menu screen as being you know more cost efficient and yeah just as effective then then you know the menu theme to an old final fantasy game or something that's just so that's so incomprehensible to me though because it's just it does so much heavy lifting like dude like i i i don't like star wars really like i don't give a shit about it
Starting point is 01:02:06 Like it's this secondary thing to me It's like all right whatever I'm like loosely associated it with nostalgia and whatever But like Those melodies are I would argue the melodies carry that entire fucking franchise There's a reason There's a reason why those core themes are in every single main movie
Starting point is 01:02:25 There's a reason why those motifs stick around In like the shows and all that shit Like the Simply sound that sound does that for that series All the way through I agree with you or not Yeah no in particular the twin sunset, whatever,
Starting point is 01:02:38 the music, the specific melody that plays when like Luke is on like the fucking horizon looking at the twin suns. Like, is like,
Starting point is 01:02:44 goose bump shit. That's really good. That is like, I didn't care about Star Wars and I heard, like I remember watching, sitting down to watch Star Wars for the first time
Starting point is 01:02:53 at way after. Like, I saw Star Wars for the first time in like 2017. Like, it was way late. And I remember being like, ah, whatever, right, Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I've seen this parody a million times, you know? And that melody comes in and it's like, this is, why do I, care so much all of a sudden.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Like, I have no nostalgia associated with this. Nothing. But it's just that damn good melody. And that's true of, like, pretty much any huge, like, really memorable thing that you can remember from, like, video games, like, like, Dr. Wiley and, like, fucking Mega Man and, like, just that fucking awesome theme and, like, the Final Fantasy Seven soundtrack entirely. It was like...
Starting point is 01:03:31 It's actually an interesting point. Like, I'll think it about, like, some of my favorite video game scenes and, like, Would I really enjoy them as much if, like, if that theme was different? Yeah. Marvel movies. Like, watch a Marvel movie without music. All of them fucking suck. You know what?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Literally, dude, like, Civil War. Dude, Marvel has perfected the art of making a bad movie, but making people care about it because they put the right fucking emotional, symphonic theme underneath it. You're right. Like, I thought, like, I was thinking about, oh, which one's my favorite? it when I think about it and I was thinking I'm like I think I enjoyed civil war the most and it's like
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Starting point is 01:05:02 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and batter and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law.
Starting point is 01:05:27 That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, and thanks for coming by the show.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. And it's the fucking score. The score is actually pretty fucking. The score is just like when they're actually fighting, like when they're all fighting, there's this specific score that's like, dun, dun, dun, dun, and it's just like,
Starting point is 01:05:56 it's really, I was like, it sounds so grandiose. And I'm like, wait a minute. I don't like that fucking music. I love this fucking trap. It's hilarious. It's a shitty movie. Nothing makes sense.
Starting point is 01:06:06 The plot is just, backwards, but because they drop the right hype soundtrack in, you care about what's happening. They introduced Spider-Man with Alt-J, and that was all I needed. I was like, oh, sick. Left-hand free? There you go. I love
Starting point is 01:06:21 it. That's so funny, though. I have to test this out some more. Dude, music is so insanely important to the quality of, like, any game, any movie, like, any TV show even. Like, I think about, like, the ending of, like, Breaking Bad and how, like,
Starting point is 01:06:36 without Baby Blue by Badfinger there, it's like, it's just, it's just a man rotating. Like, it's just there's nothing there. And it's like, you know, it's, dude. I'm to have Mario stuck in my head. I'm just thinking about the Mario melody. And I'm like, I can't, I don't know if I'd like video games that melody didn't exist. Yeah. I'm just thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Dude, like, over and over again. I got so fucking mad because the, the last season of Game of Thrones, the music was so good, but because the show was so bad, it just didn't even matter. Like, the guy who did the score, the fucking composing on the new season of Game of Thrones was a genius,
Starting point is 01:07:20 but he was handed this unpolishable turd to try and fucking write me. It's so sad. The final theme of freaking DeNaris destroying all of a freaking King's Landing, that whole entire sound would sound, because it encapsulated the craziness, she was going to in her head so well.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And then when John killed her, that was also such good music. And it was, yeah, the music was the only good part of that season. It makes me so sad. This is really interesting. I don't remember it because of how pissed off I wasn't about the series.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That's fucking powerful. Because you just shut off. You just stop listening and you're just fucking angry. You're just seeing bad. And you're like, what's going on? That is so interesting. Because I always, that is so, that is so wild. I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Because I always, whenever I hear good music and I always, a lot of times I feel. focus on the music more than the actual scene itself when I think about it. I was thinking about that when we were watching or I think we were just talking about Castlevania like season like the latest season and I was just like just like Jesus Christ this fucking great like the like listening to the music and that's fucking wild. That's actually like I'm really thinking about stuff that haven't really been thinking about like I got to go back and watch that season again and listen to the music.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Yeah, I was about to say go watch that season but I didn't have it in me to tell you to go watch I can watch it again. That hurts me so bad, bro. You know how much I love game? Those are the first books I read again. Like I was like, I stopped reading until like 20. I was like, I'm not going to read anything ever again. Fuck books.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And then I read like six of those books. And I was just like, wow, I can't wait until this is over. And then they've hit me with the episode where everything was dark. And I was like, I can't believe they disrespected me like this. my time. That was pretty wild. It was an episode of darkness. It was pretty wild to the point where you could see like, you could see like video noise.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I was just like, oh, this is. Yeah, the artifacting. Yeah, I was like, I was like, oh, this is. I thought like my monitor was fucked up at first. I was like, wait, something, something's not right. That's messed up. I was a sad. But the worst part of the whole entire season.
Starting point is 01:09:26 That was the last part of Game with those we're talking about. The worst part was that John Snow was trapped behind the, wall fighting a dead dragon and he didn't kill the fucking the um the what is name the knight king he didn't kill the knight king and I was just like how on earth are you going to validate that that is
Starting point is 01:09:46 several seasons of build up that he is his final that's the final boss for him that's his final interaction in the counter like yeah and they just like that's his bowser that was his bowser was he supposed to fight him how that fucking dragon didn't just blow through that wall and come
Starting point is 01:10:03 completely incinerate them. It blew through a wall of ice, but it couldn't. That motherfucker, it's just two, like, the plot armor, it's just like, come on. It's one of those things were, it's, you know, they all knew the problems, but they're like, let's just do it. Well, they wanted to get out so they could do the Star Wars thing, right? Exactly. You could see the faces.
Starting point is 01:10:25 You could see, dude, it's so crazy because there's videos of everybody reading their final scripts, and Kit Harrington is just holding his hat. He's fucking crying, no, he starts crying, dude. I'm like, this is my character, bro. He has to kill DeNaris. He's like fucking crying, and she's just like, I know. Yeah, it's the same with the new Star Wars, dude. It's like all these, these like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:10:51 these fucking, like, entertainment corporations that, like, they get too cocky and they think that they've solved the formula. They think, oh, people will watch this as long as it has sword fight and dragon. in it and they're just like, whoosh, like completely missed the point. They don't respect the fans, man. They don't respect the fans. Yeah, they don't respect the intelligence and the subtlety of why the fans liked it in the first place.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And it's just, it's like that with all fucking corporate art these days, man. It's a shame. But, but, you know, it's going to, it's going to live forever, though, because that sounds like it's just so fucking good. It's just so goddamn, like, it's objectively, it's just good. It's like, you know, think about Doom 2016 without the,
Starting point is 01:11:33 music, you know. Like, it's probably a fine first-person shooter, but that, that soundtrack is probably the thing that got me into metal in the first place. I was like, oh, shit, what the fuck? It's got people into some really heavy, like, dinky shit. Fucking electric metal, dude, that shit is bananas. Dude, fucking BFG, fucking BFG division on that soundtrack is so
Starting point is 01:11:50 fucking, ah, it's like such a good song, but, you know, I don't know why we have such a weird, um, success starts with your drive. An American public. Public University is here to fuel it. With affordable tuition and over 200 flexible online programs,
Starting point is 01:12:09 APU helps you gain the skills and confidence to move forward. Whether you're changing careers, starting fresh, or pursuing a lifelong passion, our programs are designed for people who never stop. You bring the fire, APU will fuel the journey. Learn more at APU.apus.edu.edu. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and batter and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes. on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone.
Starting point is 01:13:16 We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, from, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. Like inability to understand the importance of melody, but like, it's just how it goes. Yeah. have a ton. I go this for you, Jonathan. People have been like, oh, when are you going to get Jonathan Young on here? I want to ask him, how do you use a guitar? Period.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Yeah. So Starship Veloceraptor after. When's the drop date for that? 4-3-2-1. Nice, fucking awesome. April 3rd, 2021. So if you're listening to this on free feeds, that is tomorrow. So it should be fresh in your mind.
Starting point is 01:14:05 You should check it out. I'm a pretty big fan of HyperSpeed myself. I really, really love that track. I feel like Jesus is going to come back on 4-3-2-1. I think that's the day. That's the day. Yeah, I got, I'll have to send you guys the album if Chris hasn't. That's so dope.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I'm excited. Nah, Chris hadn't done shit. Yeah. I didn't know who I could. I probably told him not to send it to anybody. Yeah, whatever, whatever. It's his fault still. You didn't.
Starting point is 01:14:35 You didn't, but I wasn't sure if I could. So I was just like, I'll just play this. No, no, send it to the homies. The Chris is like, nah, I'm good. Yeah, I have this, I have this thing I want, because like most of my, for anybody that doesn't know what I do, I mostly do cover songs. And it's not legal for me to give out free downloads of cover songs. Because any time that I distribute a recording of a song that I didn't write, I have to pay royalties.
Starting point is 01:15:03 But so this original album. is like one of the first times that I've ever been able to give away my music for free legally. So I want to try doing this thing where I just like start fucking just giving it to everybody. Because like I don't care. Like I'm making I'm making plenty of money off the covers. It's like, what if I just like send this to every Twitch streamer I know and just be like, hey, free out.
Starting point is 01:15:28 That would be so fucking thing. It's stream safe. You know what I mean? You got to get on that. What is that fucking that knockoff? guitar hero thing Oh Rock Smith
Starting point is 01:15:39 Rock fan Funkin Funkin the flash game Whatever the fuck it's called But it's just It's just guitar hero But not guitar hero Friday Night Funker
Starting point is 01:15:46 I heard some shit Yeah that's it I love that game I heard some shit that like Was done by an artist That had no followers Whatsoever It was crazy
Starting point is 01:15:56 I don't know I was like how the fuck did you get on here I don't even know But it was like Some dude jamming along With stuff I think that's like Really cool
Starting point is 01:16:03 Watching people Watching people play your shit would be awesome. Dylan Van Voren wrote in. He goes to Jonathan Young. Who are some of your influences in music? So lately it's been like I said a lot of Viking metal. I've been listening to a lot of Beast in Black. A lot of Brothers of Metal. I just discovered this album, the Emblas saga. I don't know if I'm saying that right. The Embloss saga by Brothers of Metal. is like an almost flawless album from start to finish. There's tons of really interesting melodies and chord
Starting point is 01:16:41 progressions and it's all like Norse mythology and it's also influenced by like Norwegian folk music but it's fucking like brutal ass metal. Nice. Dirty Loops is a band that I kiss the ground they walk on. It's three Swedish dudes that make like
Starting point is 01:17:05 rock fusion jazz pop that sounds so what are they called again i gotta acquire that dirty loops dirty loops will absolutely brain fuck you it's it's one of the greatest bass players who has ever lived playing slap bass and then a singer who sounds like michael jackson who can play keyboard better than anybody like jazz keyboard and then the drummer is a is a fucking god as well so they make like soul jazz fusion pop stuff. They're absolutely insane. That is so hard to even conceptualize in my head. Like you'll listen to it and you'll be like, oh, that's what he was talking about.
Starting point is 01:17:45 So dirty loops, I can't recommend dirty loops enough. If you want to hear music that pushes the boundaries harmonically and melodically, definitely check them out. I love like a lot of metal bands that know how to write good melodies like Kill Switch Engage. rock bands that you know just write solid shit like um i used to listen to a ton of three days grace oh yeah i've been i've actually been working with the the drummer from three days grace i think i can talk about this um the the drummer from three days grace and the uh Howard benson who produced every radio rock record that you listen to in the mid two thousands they're starting a little record label together
Starting point is 01:18:34 and I've been writing some music with them which has been crazy that's insane yeah so I like I like you know grew up like listening to a whole bunch of Three Days Grace and like playing drums you know in high school with like Three Days Grace songs
Starting point is 01:18:49 and I was in a Zoom call with their drummer the other week like writing music that sounds kind of similar to Three Days Grace and it's like it's a trip so I love those guys a lot of the music that Howard Benson produced a lot of those bands. Guys like Breaking Benjamin have influenced me a lot.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Yeah. Yeah, man. I listen to a lot of music, but. Yeah, it's always like a never-ending like cascade like of influences. Definitely like Three Days Grace and Breaking Benjamin were like pretty huge, especially back in. I remember they were in fucking Halo too. They were. Out of fucking nowhere.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Out of the clear fucking boy. And it was. And it was awesome. I was just like, is that breaking benton? This is kind of a reach, but like, you know, people probably be like, that's stupid and cheesy, but like, if you listen to, like, Broadway and Disney music for the melodies and chord progressions, that shit is a trip.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Like, those guys know how to write a solid fucking chord progression. And I didn't realize that until I started doing, like, the clickbait Disney covers. Oh, yeah. I would, like, do these, like, covers of these Disney songs. and I would realize that like when you first listen, like even like I did a cover of Let It Go like last week or something. Yeah, I heard it. And like when you first hear that song,
Starting point is 01:20:10 the chorus sounds like a stupid pop song because the chorus is just the same four chords that everybody else uses. And I actually, years ago, when I first started my YouTube channel, I was hanging out with some dudes from the old music college that I went to and one of them was kind of this snobby kind of, he like he was a little pretentious I'll leave it that but he was like oh let it go is just a
Starting point is 01:20:37 four-coid song it sucks and I like looked at the chord progression and I looked at him and I was like no this song has like two different modulations like this is actually a really complicated chord progression and if you actually break it down that you could have probably learned a lot from this so I don't know people always like kind of write that music off but like from a from a technical standpoint, that stuff is like textbook, good melody writing and good core progression writing. Yeah, fucking Phil Collins on a...
Starting point is 01:21:08 He destroyed that out. He went further beyond. Yeah. He ascended. He didn't have to go that hard. That was Super Saion 3, Phil Collins. That whole album was the scene of him becoming Super Cain 3 from Dragon Ball. Well, and he wrote those tunes with, I think it was like
Starting point is 01:21:28 Mark Mancina or somebody who's like one of the greatest composers of the past 50 years. And that was the guy that was like backing him up on writing those, like the, the, weaving those like poppy Tarzan songs into the like the actual score of the, yeah, the movie. It was like a really, really good composer that was like second in command on that or whatever. Unbelievable. He deserves a fucking statue made a fucking platinum somewhere, dude. simply for this that album it's unbelievable the album goes bananas no don't talk about
Starting point is 01:22:03 pun intended hey boss why haven't you followed me on twitter i feel like i only have one of the starter Pokemon that's his name roodin he says howdy snark tank and mr young can you each recommend an artist or an album you surprisingly liked from your least favorite genre and for you and for you nerds with music theory knowledge what's your favorite key and why I don't know if that's necessarily I wouldn't even be able to tell you my favorite key I'll answer that one Yeah go ahead
Starting point is 01:22:33 Go ahead I have no idea even how I would even begin My favorite key is the key of C major Because it's the easiest to play on the piano Shitty answer but That's funny I would say C minor Just because that's what a lot of Like there's a lot of metal You hear a lot of C minor in general
Starting point is 01:22:48 That are just like I'm like all right cool I like I'm a fan of minor keys in general I think they sound kind of like Grim dark a little bit, but they don't have to, you know? Yeah, of course not, of course not. That's kind of the thing that's fun of it.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Like, I like the, there's a bunch of bands that I know that like just sort of like do minor key, but their lyrics are like the, it's almost like the opposite of pumped up kicks, you know? Yeah, I kind of think about, I think about major and minor keys in kind of a fluid way because like, oh yeah, like C major is like functionally the same as a natural minor. And I don't really like, like one part of the song might sound. and major key and then another part of the song might sound sad and minor key and like if you get wrapped up in the in the the humdrum of music theory then you know some people
Starting point is 01:23:38 would be like oh well you're in a minor key during this part and you're in a major key during this part and it's like nah yeah you know like whatever points are the same key straight up they're say the same thing at certain points it's weird yeah they're functionally the same thing but success starts with your drive an american public university is here to fuel it. With affordable tuition and over 200 flexible online programs, APU helps you gain the skills and confidence to move forward. Whether you're changing careers, starting fresh, or pursuing a lifelong passion, our programs are designed for people who never stop. You bring the fire, APU will fuel the journey. Learn more at APU.APUS.edu. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi,
Starting point is 01:24:27 Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and Our army grows, so the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan?
Starting point is 01:25:02 What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan.
Starting point is 01:25:16 From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfirm, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. It's just about how you're looking at. it you know that's cool but man recommend an artist that you surprisingly like from your least favorite genre I have to I feel like it's actually kind of hard I'm gonna have to think about that for a second is the question is it wait so it's it is it um a song or an art wait
Starting point is 01:25:43 is it specifically a song or just specifically he says an artist or album but I I would I would just say song also you could you could if you can think just because I need help as much help as I can thinking about this I don't know What's my least favorite? I feel like I feel like I think
Starting point is 01:26:01 Because I don't really I'm not really I'm not really a fan of Billy Elish Not really Most of the stuff I've heard from her Is it's too generic for me And two like Yingang twins
Starting point is 01:26:14 Like just fucking whispering and shit But like Some of her fucking songs Are like I actually like say One of the first covers I did when, yo, the way that I recorded this song, there's people that were asking like, hey, can I get the stems? I can really help you fix it up. And I was like, no, because I don't want you to know how I fucking
Starting point is 01:26:35 recorded this song. It was this, the most, at the time, I didn't even have my, I didn't even have my, my interface or anything. And I was using my DS, oh, oh, it was lovely by Billy Eilish. and I did like a metal cover of it and I'm gonna redo it because now I have a basic understanding of how to like make stuff sound decent but before it was I used my iPhone to record off a speaker my drums off a speaker so it was just like mono
Starting point is 01:27:07 and then I used my DSLR camera to record like the bass and all this shit and I like threw it together and it's the most like I never would let anybody like that has any understanding of how Dawes work and then give it to them, they'd be like,
Starting point is 01:27:24 this is fucking a pile of shit. How did you, I can't believe he did this. But anyway, I really like that song, lovely by Billy Eilish and Khalid or whatever the fuck name is. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:27:36 Khalid, yeah. That song, I don't know, it's just, it's as basic as it gets, but it just has a feeling where as soon as I heard it,
Starting point is 01:27:43 I was like, this could fucking, I could put some heavy guitars on this and it would sound really fucking good. and um it uh i probably in april or may i'm gonna redo it but i already have like a bunch of other shit lined up but i don't i don't know if i would i think brockhampton probably oh which song is like a group what do you mean i don't even know who that is they're like a group of rappers and shit yeah there are group of rappers and they make i'm not like huge into rap or
Starting point is 01:28:12 like even whatever the hell they do but like that first saturation record was like uh pretty and cool and pretty weird and I'd recommend that because that's a genre that I don't really have a lot of experience in but I remember hearing that I think Fantano actually sent it to me or something.
Starting point is 01:28:30 They actually fucking they referenced them in one of the tracks Oh yeah, I think I think so. But yeah I don't even know my least favorite genre music is I don't even know. Country? It's not even country.
Starting point is 01:28:44 I kind of like some country. I like some folk music too. I hate bringing it up because I get made fun of about it but I actually like, I really like, what song? What is it? Do you like, do you like, I can't believe I like this kind of a thing? What is the name of it?
Starting point is 01:29:02 Sweeney listens to Enya, I bet. I'm sure he does. Don't worry about it. What is it called? Jonathan Go, I can't remember. I'm trying to think of the song. Okay, okay. So maybe this is a cop-out answer, but I'm going to tentatively say that,
Starting point is 01:29:19 mainstream pop is my least favorite genre. Yeah. But one guy that really pleasantly surprised me is Charlie Puth. I think he actually got his start on YouTube. Yeah, he was a YouTube. And he, like, I think a lot of people would be, a lot of non-music people would be quick to write him off as just another L.A.
Starting point is 01:29:42 singing about One Night Stans pop star. But that guy is actually really smart when it comes to, like, he knows a lot of music theory. He knows a lot of really smart tricks about, like, melody writing and core progressions. And that dude can fucking play piano. Like, if you look up, there's, like, some videos floating around on YouTube of that guy, like, having, like, a jazz piano solo battle with another musician. And he fucking shreds.
Starting point is 01:30:10 And, like, there's some songs on his album where he brings in, like, a full R&B, acapella vocal group that are just, like, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. just vocal harmonies that he does. And yeah, a lot of the melody writing that he does is just really really ahead of the game in terms of the other people
Starting point is 01:30:28 in that genre. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anything from Charlie Puth. I think I probably did just write him off. I was like, because I saw literally just his name. I was like, what is that name?
Starting point is 01:30:42 And like the way that he markets himself, the way that he markets himself is like exactly the same as other mainstream pop artists. you know, it's like the, like the fucking neon, like side profile, perfectly framed profile picture and all, you know, all that like marketing shit, but he's, he's actually a really good musician, so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Sweeney, you got anything? It's a hard question, honestly. There's a song called Riptide. Oh, my, fuck. I actually like that song quite a bit. I actually like, it's by, uh, Vance Roy or Vance Joy. Yeah, Vince Joy. I like that song.
Starting point is 01:31:16 It's a super, like common radio song but for some reason like there's a banjo on it and a banjo gets me every time it just it just it just it just speaks hey man that's honesty speaks to like the most simplistic like animal part of my brain is like this is fun this means fun to me yeah it's like it's like it's rainbow connection time exactly it just works i love that song so much dude like i like it was like on number five on my spotify top played last year and I was like holy shit. It was between that
Starting point is 01:31:52 heat by 50 cent and then like another song about like freaking how much a dollar cost by Kendra Glamar like two like really it's like the most obscene sandwich of music ever and I'm just like I love this song. It's pretty good. You know what
Starting point is 01:32:08 bothers me about my Spotify most played? The number one song on my Spotify most played is a song that I hate but I listen to over and over again because I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with it and trying to figure out how to fix it. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:32:24 listen to just like, there's got to be something I can do here to fix it. Because it was, it was off of like the most recent Green Day record, which was terrible. And I was just listening to this song. I can't remember which song it was, but it was on, I couldn't share that. I was like, I can't share this. Because this is like embarrassing and also false. I was so fucking bad. I mean, it was your most listened to.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Real is real, man. Yeah, I guess so. with learning when I was actually trying to when I was having my problem with my ear issue and I didn't know that I was hearing different pitches that's what happened with the end of heartache from Kill Switch that was my number one listen song because I listened to it so much
Starting point is 01:33:00 because I couldn't figure out what was happening Did you ever like notice that you were always facing one side towards like the guitar amp or something? I wouldn't say I think it depends on the setting I'm thinking that you're not hearing different pitches. I'm thinking that you have one ear that is experiencing hearing loss for high frequencies. This is what the doctor said. Well, everything looks fine.
Starting point is 01:33:29 The frequencies you hear relatively on the same level. So it's not like you have significant hearing loss like in your right ear or something like that. And the only thing you said was maybe you're getting ear fatigue in one of your ears. That's the only explanation. What is your fatigue? It fatigue is like basically when you when there's so much, when you have so much sound processing after a while, it can't really process the frequencies as well. And so then things do sound sometimes lower, sometimes faster or slower. Like it just kind of warps your, you know, like if you're if you're dead tired, shit sounds vastly different. If you're like listening to music. Yeah. Yeah. So if I try to mix music for more than five hours at a time, it's just all like I just hear mush. Yeah. I just can't I can't tell what sounds good anymore after five hours of straight. headphone time. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I never thought about that. I always thought of... I didn't imagine five hours of that. That'd make me lose my shit. Five hours of constantly reconstructing and putting together fucking putting together a song and taking it apart and putting together to fucking four chords.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I would die. Tiny little knobs. Yeah. Guitar tunings. Do you guys have like favorite ones that are not like standard? Oh yeah. What would you say?
Starting point is 01:34:40 Oh, here you goes. My two favorites are... My two favorites are Drop C just because most of my favorite bands played in Drop C. So that was something that I got so used to, like, Drop C. But then if it's acoustic guitar, I love Standard D. Standard D just sounds like, it just sounds so much like I wrote a song and I playing it in just like E and then versus D standard. It just sounds so much better. And one of my favorite songs called a Come All You Weary by Thrice.
Starting point is 01:35:14 it's just it's in D stand it's just such a fucking great it just sounds amazing dude I don't know I can't really describe it just sounds good can describe the vibe I get I don't know what to call it
Starting point is 01:35:25 I don't know if there's a name for it but I love DADD GAD Dad gad Dad gad I was gonna bring that one up It's such a good Everything sounds like a fucking old Western like Celtic fucking romp
Starting point is 01:35:40 in that tune And it's so sick I haven't I've been a guitar in like seven years, so I wouldn't know. There's a bunch of guitars in the apartment right now. They are a bunch, and I'm afraid to pick them up. So this is the minor key relative of Dadgad. This is D-A-D-W-D-G-A-E,
Starting point is 01:36:03 instead of G-A-D. So the top string is... Is just a normal... Oh wait no it's higher. Yeah the top string is higher. So the nice thing that you can do with this is That's still kind of out of tune. Fuck me. You can kind of play in You can kind of play this like really like sour folk tune kind of way Like it's and then you can kind of like I don't know it's it's like it's basically dad gad but minor key Yeah. So I have to try
Starting point is 01:36:55 try that out. I've been doing Dad Gad a lot specifically, but I haven't thought to change. Dad Gad is one of my favorite tuning, dude. It sounds fucking awesome. One of my favorite soundtracks in all of video game history, the Bastion.
Starting point is 01:37:10 The Bastion soundtrack by Darren Darren Corb, who does all these like, I think, oh my God, is it super giant? It's super giant. That's their second or first game? The second one, right? Um, Bastion, I don't know if Bashan was their first game or not, but like, it was definitely one of the early ones.
Starting point is 01:37:28 And that, that entire soundtrack is like, like, acoustic with like synths and like electronic. Like, and it's, it's, uh, it sounds like it's all in Dadgad to me. Like, that's been the easiest tuning that I've learned how to play, like, anything on that, that soundtrack. But so, so fucking good. Yeah, part of why I'm so attracted to Dadgad is because I'm mainly a keyboard player. and you can bar chords on the bottom four strings really easily, and they'll all sound open as long as you're playing in the right key.
Starting point is 01:37:59 So you can just kind of like... You can just move this shape around. Yeah, and then like visually, it just makes a lot of sense. Yeah, no, it's very easy. It's very easy to get a hold of. Yeah, and then like from a chord progression standpoint, like traditional guitar tuning... Success starts with your...
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Starting point is 01:39:03 It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of yours recently
Starting point is 01:39:17 that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:39:34 So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Law, thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. Visually, it's hard to, like, wrap your head around what you're looking at when you're, like, figuring out normal guitar chords unless they're bar chords. So, Dad Gad is nice because you can kind of, like, see, like, okay, this is my home bass chord. This is my five chord because it's seven half steps up, steps up, and you can just kind of, like, build from there.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I don't know. It's a good tune. But, uh, what do we got? What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? Jacques 552 Rode in. It says, Hello Musical Trio and Sweeney. Ouch.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Ouch. Okay. Roasted by a Frenchman. Whatever. It doesn't hurt me. I know who I am. This question is for Jonathan. What is your favorite work of yours? Thanks for all the last. Star Trek, Raptor. Yeah, that's the...
Starting point is 01:40:47 That's pretty easy. That was an obvious one. What's your... Out of curiosity, though? what of your covers are you particularly proud? Because I love your fucking Oh my God What's the Hellfire
Starting point is 01:41:02 That's one of my favorites Hell motherfucking fire That shit's so good Like I didn't even realize that that song was as good as it was Until I heard your version of it Because I saw Yeah I mean like There's a couple like
Starting point is 01:41:15 I just don't like making covers in general So it's hard for me to like Usually it's the more interesting or iconic songs. Like, I'm miserable when I'm doing just some random anime cover or some random fucking, like, even some of the metal songs or rock songs that I do covers of. A lot of the times, like, you know, I'm not necessarily always a big fan of the original song.
Starting point is 01:41:40 And a lot of times I'm making the cover because my job is to be a human jukebox. And if I see a comment with 500 upboats that says, do this song from this anime or do this this song from this band. Like, that's how I get paid. So usually, um, the songs that I have to like because they're too good to not like are usually the ones that I have the most fun covering like, uh,
Starting point is 01:42:08 Hellfire. It's such an iconic, uh, really well written song. The Pokemon theme, that was a super fun one to cover because, oh yeah. Like,
Starting point is 01:42:17 like, like you can't not like that song. So like, of course I had fun covering it. That video was so wild, dude. another one. The video was so wild. The Pokemon one was like, this is insane, dude. Yeah, we went all out for that because we obviously, we had Jason. We had the original singer, uh, coming and do a guest spot on that. So we were like, okay, we got to, we got to go all out on this video. But, uh, most of the time we don't do
Starting point is 01:42:39 that because the fans don't care. Yeah, that's like, that's like. Yeah. It's like. And that, I mean, that was something I kind of learned after the Pokemon theme. We had it, uh, back when I had an editor, you know, I used to have a full-time camera guy on my payroll and we just learned very quickly that like we would go all out on a video and spend like six hours shooting a fucking video and it would get like 100,000 views. And then we'd like throw together like, like, you know, I'm like sick. My nose is dripping. I'm miserable. I want to go home and sleep. We'd spend like 30 minutes doing a one take video and it would get like 30 million views. It's like, I don't care anymore, like, if this is how it's going to be, like, and like, there's, like, some of the most
Starting point is 01:43:26 successful, some of the most successful channels on YouTube right now doing music, just post, just album art, or like, like, an illustration, and then that's the video, and then maybe lyrics on the side. And then, and those are getting millions of views. Yeah, well, but it's like, like, if that's what, like, if kids are only using YouTube as, as, like, a Spotify replaceer, then why the fuck should I spend $5,000? to fucking... It's very true. No, yeah, no, totally. It makes sense.
Starting point is 01:43:54 That's something that I've been thinking about on YouTube a lot, too. It's like, why, like, why spend, like, why spend a week writing something and, like, 48 hours editing something? If it's, if it's just going to do, like, as good as something that I just shit out in, like, a day. That bothers me directly. Yeah, like, what's the heart of why people are coming to, like, are they coming to your channel to see your editing, or are they coming to your channel because they want
Starting point is 01:44:19 to see Chris talk about something? and if it's the latter, if they just want to hear Chris talk about something, just fucking turn the camera on, man. Yeah. Like, yeah. And that sucks. That's, that fucking sucks to say that. It hurts my soul, but like, I know, I know that.
Starting point is 01:44:35 But like, if, like, this is the fucking game we're in, you know, like, we're in corporate hell world. And, you know, if you want to, if you want to get paid, like, that's, you know, somebody else is going to make the same content that you're making, but they're going to spend half the time editing. Yeah. And then, you know, like, that bothers me a lot. I fucking hate it. Like this, I'm miserable because of that every day.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Believe me. It bothers me a lot. I get it, though. It is the game. Art should be a moral. Yeah, because there are singers. There are singers that don't mix at all that are getting more subscribers than me. They literally just like put a webcam on and just sing.
Starting point is 01:45:11 And they just fucking like printed on top of a karaoke track. And they'll get, you know, easy two million subscribers. And that, that makes me want to fucking jump off the nearest. fucking cliff because it's like, you know, I spend so much time. Success starts with your drive. An American Public University is here to fuel it. With affordable tuition and over 200 flexible online programs, APU helps you gain the skills and confidence to move forward.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Whether you're changing careers, starting fresh, or pursuing a lifelong passion, our programs are designed for people who never stop. You bring the fire, APU will fuel the journey. Learn more at apu.apus.edu.edu. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently. It said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
Starting point is 01:46:38 Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfram,
Starting point is 01:46:51 thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit for thepeople.com for an office near you. Mixing and learning keyboard parts and figuring out chord progressions, but at the end of the day, the only thing people want to hear is me singing their favorite anime song. So, you don't care about who. That's why I hire instrumentalists now.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I pay producers to do all the, I'll call up one of my guys and I'll be like, I need an instrumental for this anime song by next week. And they'll be like, okay, here's how much you owe me. And then I only have to record for a couple hours. and then I'm done for my weekly video. That's ideal. That's a pretty ideal.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Because I definitely notice that like I'll spend like a lot of time working on a video and then it'll even if it's a good one, it's like, okay, that's good. But it'll, it can bomb. And then like I realized the other, like a couple weeks ago, I just had a song that I was like sitting on for like a while. And I literally just recorded it. Like I did barely any mixing on it. I just like did like a basic cover of my own song and put it on YouTube. acoustically and it did just as well as the video that I like spent a bunch of boatload of time. I'm like, what do I don't even know what the fuck is going on at this point.
Starting point is 01:48:00 But whatever. We'll, well, hopefully we'll survive. I hate that. I hate it so much. I hate seeing people that put so much work into their shit. And then they don't get through.
Starting point is 01:48:11 That just bothers me so much because like if I'm creating something, I want in my mind, if I'm creating something, I want it to live on forever. Like I want what I'm creating to be something that's like this is, going to when I'm dead and dust people are going to look at this and be like damn that was sick but that's not what happens anymore people just want to consume it's like I want to I just want to see I want to see this and that's it I don't want to I don't care how you do it I don't care about how
Starting point is 01:48:37 much time you put or love you put into it and it's like man that makes me just want to but even but even the stuff that explodes you know like I mean we were talking about rice gum earlier but like he was huge back in the back even just a couple years ago and and I don't know any I doubt anybody's even mentioning him I I don't even, I don't, I think we're probably the first people to talk about him at all. Like, in the last, like, probably several months, you know, like, even thing, even shit that explodes and gets super popular doesn't live that long. Yeah, because all their shit was a flashing a pen. It's not like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:09 This isn't like Frank Sinatra in a fucking playlist. Like, I have, I'm saving it a part of my play. It's going to be in my workout playlist. It's going to be in my whatnot. But that's the problem, dude. That's the problem. It disvalues creation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:23 It makes things less, like, it makes it like less. It just, it pertinually feeds back into the old, like, this rapid consumption of things and not like actually like you're hearing something and you're like, oh, that's beautiful. Like, I'm going to show my kids this song one day and hopefully they'll love it. Yeah, well, because it's all and like which came first, the chicken or the egg, you know what I mean? It's like, because at some point it's like the consumers at one point said, wouldn't it be nice if we could have twice as many bands that we like. like and then you know obviously there's the social media algorithms that say well if people aren't coming back to your channel every single fucking week we're not going to push your channel in the search results anymore because yeah crazy you know if there's a metal musician that's making one
Starting point is 01:50:09 video a week that people really like versus a metal musician that is spending an entire year to make an album uh people want more like like why wouldn't people want more music but then once the machine learning saying people want more, more, more, more, more, more, more, then it becomes impossible, like you're saying, to ever spend time on something because, you know, obviously the algorithm and all that. Yeah, it's a goddamn mess. It's crazy. But we've got one final question here from the man that will one day fuck your daughters. That is his name. He's very confident, I guess.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Yeah, very confident. Yeah. We'll see about that Keep your email and credit card information on file In case I need to call the police We're good He says greetings music nerd D&D nerd
Starting point is 01:51:04 Skeletal Remains and Bigfoot Do you have any guilty pleasure songs You're definitely Bigfoot Are you kidding? But I'm also a D&D nerd at the same time Oh wait yeah that's a good point You're a D&D nerd too? Dude I have a homebrew
Starting point is 01:51:20 That's been going for like Years. Has this never been... We'll chat after. We'll chat after. Yeah, yeah. Because I don't talk about it. I don't talk about it because I don't want another one of my passions to be ruined by the corporate internet.
Starting point is 01:51:33 We'll have a private chat about this. Yeah, no. Yeah, we'll talk. The corporate internet is the saddest phrase I think I've ever heard because I know you're right. But that wasn't... I don't talk about my hobbies anymore because I know that if I talk about them too much, then, you know, suddenly I'm on a D&D Twitch stream. and now I hate D&D. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:51:54 You're so damaged. You're so damaged by the internet. It's like I'll stay away from these things. I don't want anyone know things about me. It ruins everything, dude. Like I can't listen to music anymore, dude. It's like I'm just thinking about like, oh, it's this chord and this chord and this cord and fucking, uh, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:52:11 It's, I can't like, it's hard for me to like love things anymore if they have been painted by the internet. That's such a thing. Internet does. I get it. I get it. I do. I wanted to be a political science major, dude. And I was like... Jesus Christ, God help you.
Starting point is 01:52:29 I was like... Because it's so important. But like, now I'm like, yo, honestly, burn it all, man, everybody. Leave that to... Biden's falling. That's what's important. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Anyway, he writes in... He says, do you all have any guilty pleasure songs? And if so... I think... I don't have any guilty pleasure songs anymore. I just accept the fact that I like music. And, uh, you know, look, I think,
Starting point is 01:52:57 I was, I was listening to fucking bulletproof by LaRouge the other day and I was like, this is fun. I like this. You know, like, like say, is there any songs,
Starting point is 01:53:06 though, that you probably wouldn't have your car, you know, your windows rolled down and blasting it. That's a better way. That's a better way to phrase the question, I think, because there's a long list of songs that I would not roll.
Starting point is 01:53:22 But that's like, that's another conference. That's about like everybody else's perception. Like, I know the song's good. Yeah. But I also know that I'm going to get fucking emasculated by a bunch of like really insecure dudes. If I, you know, if I'm playing defying gravity from the musical Wicked. That song is amazing. The Wicked soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:53:43 The Wicked soundtrack in general is way better than it had any right to be. I've been waiting. I've been waiting to pull the trigger on a fucking power metal defying. gravity cover for years. I've been waiting until that musical is relevant again so that I can talk myself into fucking rolling the dice on that.
Starting point is 01:54:01 I'll like, I'll, like, when I'm like fucking practicing drums, I'll just like start fucking like jamming on that song. That song is sick. Dude, I, I gotta say, huge fan of Haley Williams
Starting point is 01:54:16 and, uh, it's Haley, though. Yeah, I mean, she's, but like, The song, the song, that Twilight song decode, it just, it has. Oh, yeah. It just that chorus. Yes, Paramore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Yeah. So just like not Haley ones, but like I just, but her, her fucking just the, like, I like that song like just all the way through with the chorus, it does something to me. Just her fucking, it just does something to me to the point where that's one song that I definitely would not blast. Especially right now. I live in South Central L.A. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Okay. Dude, I live in South Central, L.A. I'm going to be passing by a bunch of hoodniggas all the time. Bless how do we get here? And they're just going to be like, like I just can't, I feel if I,
Starting point is 01:55:05 if I, like see where I grew up, I grew up in a North Orange County, just on the border of L.A. in Orange County, I would have no problem being over there because there's just a bunch of like people that either listen to like
Starting point is 01:55:17 Nortenial music, just a bunch of Mexican dudes or a bunch of like a bunch of pasty white dudes that wouldn't give a shit like, oh, a paramour. But like, that I would say because I love that song. So you and me, you and me in South L.A.,
Starting point is 01:55:29 I've got the windows down blasting Define Gravity. You've got the windows down blasting Paramore. Who gets their shit kicked in first? I think, honestly, I think me, dude. I think my shit's like way, it's just, it's too. Yeah, they might see me and be like, fucking white kids.
Starting point is 01:55:46 They'll say betrayer to Derek. Don't be like, betrayer. And it'll attack it. See, what's going to have? happened this dude's gonna be like this niggas listening to fucking that that that twilight track and then his home is gonna be like wait why do you know that you fucking know that shit how do you know that yeah well who like who like who even knows that that's from twilight like i feel like people just like that's like so far back i feel like people would hear that and be like oh it's perimor
Starting point is 01:56:08 it's yeah they would i only know it's from twilight because when i was looking up because i remember uh their album brand new eyes was out i got it like early copy of it i was like oh this is the shit and then i heard that the song decode and i was like wait Is this like an extra track on brand new eyes? But I was like, oh, it's, it's Twilight. Because I didn't watch Twilight until way after it came out, like, with my some friends. Whatever. I don't remember the year, but it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:56:34 But yeah, I was just like, this is like one of the best songs they ever fucking written. And it's just a Twilight one-off thing. And I was, I was like, this is fucking, I love that song. What's crazy is that I know that song because I saw the last three Twilight movies and theaters. Yeah. I mean, God bless you. Why did you enjoy them? Not even slightly, but for women, a teenage boy will do the dumbest things.
Starting point is 01:57:02 He will put aside what he believes in entirely just to get a girl. You don't even believe in things yet really, but you're like, I can't allow this to get in the way of what I must achieve. You'll do it. Damn, all three of them, dude. The last three, so it was five. Your trooper, man. I mean, look it. I don't want to be too harsh on those fucking movies.
Starting point is 01:57:24 I just, to me, it's more of the... Success starts with your drive. An American Public University is here to fuel it. With affordable tuition and over 200 flexible online programs, APU helps you gain the skills and confidence to move forward. Whether you're changing careers, starting fresh, or pursuing a lifelong passion, our programs are designed for people who never stop.
Starting point is 01:57:48 You bring the fire, APU will fly. fuel the journey. Learn more at APU. APU.orgia.org. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw billboarded years recently. It said $20 billion. $20 billion is an insane number. Yeah, $20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, We're north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows.
Starting point is 01:58:29 So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call.
Starting point is 01:58:46 24-7-365. Wow. Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's Large Injury Lawfirm. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit furtherpeople.com for an office near you. The concept of vampires.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Like, I like old vampire movies and shit. And that was just such a deviation from him. I was like, I just, I can't get into shit at all. Yo, when he sparkled in the second one, bro, tears. I was like, damn, bro. Imagine, imagine being, imagine being Dracula. And they're seeing that. And just being like, bro, they murdered my boy.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Look what they did to my boy. It's not for us, bro. Look what they did to my boy, man. Look what they did to my... They murdered him. My boy. Poor sonny. It's just, look, I know it's not for...
Starting point is 01:59:33 It's for a specific audience. There was like a wave of movies like that that were coming out, right? Like, there was like a superhero movie or something. That was it. That was it. Yeah. Yeah, there were a lot of those, like, teen... It was all tinted blue and shit.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Like, everything, it was like, all that stuff was coming out. I never bothered to see the Hunger Games. Yeah. I never bothered to see The Hunger Games movie. specifically because like I remember hearing like oh hey that's about like somebody was like yeah it's a movie about like kids killing each other I was like
Starting point is 02:00:00 that sounds wild is it like rated R it's like no it's PG-13 and I was like well it's no battle royale okay yeah that was a weird era for that was like when corporations were finally realizing that they could cash in on stories that are anti-corporate
Starting point is 02:00:17 yeah that's really weird man that's funny I was like that was like that was like the tipping point where corporations were like, hey, we control everything and we can make a dystopian story about kids rising up against people who control everything and make a ton of money on it and control everything even more. Like, it's like so weird, man. That's pretty ironic. And on that note, I think now's about an appropriate time to bring this little episode to a close.
Starting point is 02:00:49 I want to thank Jonathan for coming on because this is just really really cool. cool. We've played destiny together and all that shit, but like I've been wanted to do something like this for a while. You play Destiny too, bro? Come on. All the... A while ago. Like, I don't know. Like, I haven't played Destiny in a hot minute. But you're getting a simp right now, Jonathan.
Starting point is 02:01:07 For real? Dude, well, I'm just, I'm just a regular guy, man. Just fucking shoot the shit, play some video games. Just a regular guy with fucking fucking... Fuck, fuck the YouTube shit. Millions of views and shit. Billions of that point.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Dude, the... The only thing I spend my YouTube money on is fucking magic the gathering cards like that's hilarious if I had lots of money yeah I was actually I just saw a fucking graphics card that was like $6,500 bucks and I was
Starting point is 02:01:37 like yeah I'm going to get that that's an insane I saw I saw the reviews for it and then it said the first thing said will it play Fortnite and then the first response the first response said no and nine up votes of was this helpful
Starting point is 02:01:56 it's all over what happened to the world but I feel bad we keep we keep derailing when Chris is trying to like he's trying to run a reputable podcast I'm just trying to keep it on time and like a reasonable amount of time but just out of curiosity where so where is um uh starship Velociraptor? Is that going to be on Spotify? Is it going to be everywhere?
Starting point is 02:02:26 Everywhere. Just search for Starship Velociraptor on your favorite platform. And if you can't find it, I'll fucking send it to you for free. If you're one of those people that loves title and you only listen to music on title, I'll just, I'll send it to you for free, bud. I'm going to get a hundred DMs. They're like, titles, my favorite. Please send it to me for free.
Starting point is 02:02:50 I beg. I beg. So that's, yeah, obviously, 4, 3, 1, April, April 3rd. Check it out. So, yeah, check it out. And, uh, Will Smith, uh, collaboration, right? On it?
Starting point is 02:03:07 Yes. That's, is that not a joke? Is that, is that not a, yeah, it's called, it's called, um, it's called, um, it's, um, and it's, Will Smith and the entanglement. It's pretty, it's pretty cool. The entanglement. That's so, harming, bro. Did you see his face?
Starting point is 02:03:24 He was so hurt. How could you make fun of someone like that? Did you guys see that fucking dude who proposed to his girlfriend in a Ben 10 jacket in a small food court? Yeah. And he just got completely rejected. It's very recent. Corporate media is destroying everything. Oh, it's just today.
Starting point is 02:03:44 It happened this morning. The saddest thing I've ever seen. That Ben 10 jacket looks are not really cool, though, honestly. It's a really cool jacket. So if you want to maybe, if you're interested in maybe getting a Ben 10 jacket, maybe don't do that. And instead,
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Starting point is 02:04:17 which I will now do. I try my best. but you guys always hurt me with these count me down all right three two one Sammy and his big titty fishy Charlotte Jarday
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Starting point is 02:05:20 Jesus, Chris. People are the worst. Atrosoni, Hideo Kajima screaming the N-Word at the top of his lungs while promoting his next video game. True story. He names it that. That's a real...
Starting point is 02:05:30 That's just the name of his fucking next... I'd buy that game. Escapade. I'd buy that game. I'll buy anything, Kajima, because I'm an asshole. Quivering Cloaca. Tom Sweeney, the nutritious alien fucker. Please check out my podcast.
Starting point is 02:05:44 It's called How Did We Even Get Here? Every Thursday. Leroy Jenkins. Kingston kicking kids. Ouch. Help. I was walking outside with my pants down and tripped into some pussy, but now my girlfriend won't talk to me. Oh, God. It happens, man. These names, man. Derek, where are you? You look like you.
Starting point is 02:06:04 I'm fucking, I'm freezing, man. Hurry up. It looks so ridiculous. Tomboys are a symbol of sincerity, purity of intention, and companionship. They are arguably the highest ideal form of the modern woman. hard hat skydiver Stephen Crowder's dress that he doesn't let his wife wear Chris has a high voice
Starting point is 02:06:23 for a lesbian absolute wagon Lord Gavin Dr. Drew's appendix ready to blow on Chris's command yabba dabba domestic abuse I was cock blocked by a turtle Alaskan oilfield trash
Starting point is 02:06:33 Lieutenant Lipton's famous teabag facials Lovecraftian cumsock Not an FBI agent Juan Punchman Marcus Shorten Mr. Fuck Jim Crow's daddy issues
Starting point is 02:06:43 Aboosie Chris promised to drop Tom's nudes at 10K last page we're done we're almost done Papa nergle Papa nergle Sargon getting slurped by solid snake Danny DeVito's perfectly preserved penis
Starting point is 02:06:54 Small peen swine machine Murder ascended David Connolly the dyslexic that feels Chris's pain I lost my boss's cat And people are giving me weird looks as I call its name The year is 1900
Starting point is 02:07:05 And I work for HP Lovecraft Lobotomized Jesus is my drooling divine savior Haco Moto Zealit Hey you you're finally awake You were trying to cross the border In the fucking voice man I'm not doing the Skyrim voice. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 02:07:19 It's a part of the show. Hey, you, you're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that imperial ambush. Same as us. Have you done this before? Unfortunately, numerous times. It's every week thing, dude.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Every time. It's the most painful. Every episode of this fucking show ends with me in pain, searing pain. It's sad. let me read the names. God. I'd do it. Hiroshima spicy mushrooms.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Wintu Watsu, the... Jonathan, you're like a regular dude and you're not ready for this. Some of these... No, dude, I'm laughing because, like, my private discord name is poo-poo-pipi, man. So this is like right up my alley. Some of these I just feel like I can't, I just can't say. Wintu Watsu, the African little boozy. killed the cockroach and take that pussy.
Starting point is 02:08:20 That's his name. Thank you for ruining my career. Derek's Unyielding Sex Drive. Dummy Thick Dave. Heartless Wretch, aka the Ebony Goblin from the Dump of New York City. Uncle Tony's Pizzeria and Abortion Clinic, where today's loss is tomorrow's sauce. Dan Schneider, the Hyman Divider, Jackson Abseage, Badly Brave, Jolly Old Dipshit, Huggard Derek, the movie theater assistant manager, Ethereum, Mrs. Buthert McWamacan, Chris Gap My Progerian Hunting Ass.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Mm. Deflated left ass cheek. All hands on dick. Arrow. Sunny Chance. Derek, you should listen to Dallas Beltway by Chat Pile. It's a good song. I did.
Starting point is 02:08:54 I didn't like it. Oh, really? He hates it. So, fucking weird. He hates it. So fuck you, dude. You suck.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I can't believe you would support us for this long, only to recommend us terrible music. I'm just joking. We love you. This will, this will, oh, the will has been rewritten entirely so that everything goes to their new son, Chris Raygun.
Starting point is 02:09:15 adoption papers are in the mail Richter 86 and the final as always King King of haphazard who has been here for like a really really really really long time the chosen one I apologize I'm sorry Jonathan
Starting point is 02:09:30 so that you had to sit through that oh no dude it's cool it's cool but that's uh that's gonna be it for us today obviously check out Jonathan Young he makes all sorts of really cool shit obviously his new album on Spotify and not on title unfortunately sorry guys
Starting point is 02:09:51 which should be live basically by the time you it might be on time I don't know if my distributor distributes the title I should probably check that before I make claims like that oh yeah well we'll see it'll we'll retweet it when it when it goes yeah and thank you guys so much for having me of course this is a pleasure man hell of shit boy
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