The Snark Tank - #78: SpaceJam 2 is Awful

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:26 something special getting up there we've got so I want to say something something before we start because this is we're just kind of cursed with this it seems based on how the schedule goes and when we record and whatnot. Last episode, I made a very specific remark. I said, nothing's happened this week, but I'm sure
Starting point is 00:01:54 tomorrow, after we record and after we post this on Patreon, something big will happen, and then we'll look like idiots. And I was 100% right because the day that that last episode was posted, all the Activision shit happened.
Starting point is 00:02:09 All of, like, the crazy big, I don't know if it's like a, It's like a lawsuit from the state of California against Activision. Crazy shit. Somebody, like, killed herself and, like, they were, like, share. It's the, it, obviously, pretty big fucking deal. But I just wanted to acknowledge that because I just fucking totally knew it. Like, I knew that that would happen.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It's so obvious. Yeah, too much shit wasn't happening. I think that's, like, a law. It's like a law. It's one of those laws of nature or something. I don't know which one it is, but it's something. Yeah. The law of centripical force, man.
Starting point is 00:02:45 The pendulum always comes swinging back the opposite way eventually. Yeah, some. The law of boring shit breeds stupid shit, something like that. Just some calm. I think Isaac Newton said that. Yeah. It's just some calm before the storm type shit that it's like, oh, of course, of course this would happen. The day after we fucking say nothing's going on.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Of course it was active vision. I just knew it was going to be. As soon as I heard that I was like, let me guess. Yeah, I was skimming through it. And they were like, yeah. I was skimming through it and everything. And I was just like, damn, I want to work here. I was just like, that's a really good company.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And, like, if you're a shitty man, like, if you're a shitty dude, then that's goaded. Well, if you're like a bad guy, like, that's the place to go. We should, we should mention that it's not even just Activision. It's specifically Blizzard, actually. It's specifically Blizzard. that culture was, I guess, there before Activision got on board. Yeah, there was this viral thing going around kind of, like, I guess, as a result of all this, where it was like a bunch of, it was like a Blizcon panel, I think, in like 2010, where some girl
Starting point is 00:03:58 went up to the mic or something, and she was like, hey, when are we going to get, like, female characters that don't look like they came out of, like, a Victoria's Secret catalog, which is, like, regardless of how you feel about that, it's like a fan of your games who's, like, come to see you and like ask you a question and they just totally treated her like shit. It was like the most depressing thing I've seen in a while. Like sit down, whore. It was so bad. Like I was because there's, because back then you, there was a lot of talk about like, and this kind of bothers me too,
Starting point is 00:04:30 when I think about like the internet back then because a lot of talk about like sexism in the games industry was like kind of, it was brushed off specifically because because so much of the complaints were just about like character design. You know, like, oh, why is there like a hot woman in this game? Right? It was just like, oh, and that was supposed to be like a big deal, even though like that's not really a problem at all. But then because that claim was so dumb, like the idea that like, oh, you can't have hot women in video games, everything else that's like very real,
Starting point is 00:05:08 it got like swept under the rug and not take it. seriously. Oh yeah. So it's just this sad situation where like I mean dude like even if I dude if I was on that panel and I like disagreed with the person like asking that question I wouldn't like make a villain of them to the entire room you know like it just seems like kind of a dickish way to treat your audience and like yeah some of your demographic there's a there is a slice of that you the your consumers that would like to see something like that and you can treat them respect regardless. You can just say something.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I thought that shit was hilarious, but like it was not nice. Of course. It was funny as fuck. Of course. It's fucked up, but funny. It's one of those things where that shouldn't happen and that makes it funny. Well, it's funny specifically because
Starting point is 00:06:01 these are the guys now who like in the last couple years are like, we're all about inclusivity, you know? You know, it's like, it's all these people like putting up this fake shit where it's like we know you. Like we have, we know you guys. Come on. What's the, the bald guy that did Buffy and, uh, and, uh, Avengers and shit?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Josh Whedon? Yeah, like, it's that guy. It's the, the fucking guy that never got time of the day. Like, no woman would ever touch his penis. And so he became resentful. And once he became like, he rose up. He started really taking advantage in being a complete scumbag. because he never learned how to act accordingly.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And then he's all, ooh, fucking inclusivity and all this shit. And you're like, Dick, you fucking like assaulted so many women. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, it's crazy. Fuck that. Fuck that, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Josh, we didn't sucks dick. But, uh, it's, it's just funny to me because it's like, I don't know. Like, having,
Starting point is 00:06:59 having female relatives that are in a corporate world, I just know that's just how it is. Like, that women just get treated kind of shittily in general. They just get looked over. They get, like, silence. And it's not, like, to the degree that some people are like, girls have notes, but they, there is a frat boyish culture in a corporate world.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Especially, it exists. Especially in games, you know, I think that's pretty obvious. Like, you know, I've been to cons and stuff, and it's like, it's, it's pretty clear. It's stupid, though, because if those, because here's the thing, if, if the women like, those guys, which they don't because they're fucking slime bags. You know, they're just they're gross. They smell they're fucking weird. They're awkward.
Starting point is 00:07:48 But like if they were a track, like it feels like, hey, this guy seems like a nice dude. Maybe it would be cool to go on a date with this guy. It would be totally like, I like that you're into my interest. You know, but the thing is, they're fucking weird. And not everybody, of course, but you know what I'm talking about? It's like the whole world
Starting point is 00:08:05 of Warcraft. I'm gonna be honest. I'm be honest. everyone that I knew personally that played World or Warcraft was a fucking in-sell. And that's not even, like, I'm not, I'm dead serious. Like, I can name these people. And it says, I'm like, what is, why is this happening? Like, is the game attracting them or is it the other way around?
Starting point is 00:08:29 I don't get it. It's, it's, I played wow. Yeah. I personally played wow. Okay. All right. Yeah. And I've been, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:08:38 I would consider myself a gamer and I gotta be real. I got gamers are horrible people. We're pretty bad. We're a pretty bad bunch. I'm gonna be very real with you, right? Like, think of, if you think of the end word, think of where it said the most. Think of where that word is said the most freely and happily and people just use it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 We use it. I'm with them. Because even I say it. I want to back you up. I want to back you up. something that some Scandinavian Swedish dude would probably never have any reason to say it. He's a gamer and then he drops it on PubG. But for everyone to see it.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's kind of proof in the pudding that you know he learned to say the N-word from playing video games. You can tell by the way they connect it. It's like, it's like not even like you are a. They just say you N-word. And I'm just like, you didn't learn this. This is not in your grammar. Like, you develop this ability out of defense to hurt people. Dude, it's just everywhere in Call Duty.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It's like a hilarious. It was everywhere in video games for a while. And the only place that still holds onto its roots is Call it Duty specifically. Yeah. Because I heard it in Halo a lot. I didn't hear it as much than Cod. And Cod. it was different.
Starting point is 00:10:07 It was like everyone was seen. To the point the black kids said it so they wouldn't, to it, they wouldn't appear to be black. It was camouflage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Call of Duty, it's like part of the game design, I think, that you get where it needs to be present.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Like, it happened, it did happen, like, dude, Halo 3 was like the most popular shooter of all time, like back when it was out. There were a lot of YouTube videos of people like trolling. And that's literally where Keemstar, I think, kind of started, I think, was like trolling Halo 3 lobbies because that was such a big, toxic place to be. But Call of Duty, man, it's still, it carries that torch.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Like, you need, you need that word in the game somehow. Like, I think it's... It would kind of be weird, right, if you didn't hear it? Dude, it wouldn't be Call of Duty. It would be Battlefield. It would just be... If they didn't say anywhere in that game, the game would probably just be, like, unfinished.
Starting point is 00:11:02 The fucking servers... Models and shit. The servers would shut down. Just somebody posting to like the Infinity Ward or Activision forums. Like something, do you guys feel like this call duty like lacks the spirit of like the old ones? Because like I'm not hearing the N-word as much. And like I don't know like something like I feel like a little bit disconnected, a little bit betrayed by fucking. It's bad, man.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Like we're not good. We're not great people, man. We play. Look, think of it like this. When you play a game, right? immediately after you beat someone that just gave you a challenge. The shit I say about them is unbelievable. Like, I play, I unfortunately play a lot of competitive video games,
Starting point is 00:11:45 which is a sign of me not being mentally healthy. But I play a lot of them. And as soon as I win, the shit I say, the shit I spout off afterwards. Chris has heard me sometimes I was playing Destiny, and I'm just saying horrible shit. And I'm like, wow. Yeah. I literally have to scream to be like shut your window.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I don't know what color you are, bro. Stop, you can't just say that. Dude, you're unrelenting. But I don't know, man. I guess they, I wonder if they say it at Blizzard, like while they're developing the new expansions. They just like scream that to each other. It seems like that kind of place. It seems like that kind of place where they greet each other.
Starting point is 00:12:33 like that they walk into the building. And they're like, oh, top of the morning, and nobody even, no one, it's, it's so normal. It's just like saying good morning. And the new kid is just like, what the fuck? And then, you know, of course, a woman joins. And then they're just like, oh, like top of the morning slut, you know, and she's like taken back, but the guy can understand what he said wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:57 He's like, what happened? I don't understand what's going on. In their apology when the dude was like, if you see or hear anything talk to HR or whatever and it's like that's like every story from anybody who's like been in the company and left or even people who are still there like HR exists to protect the company like what do you mean like that's literally like that's such a dumb thing to fucking say just like obviously like you
Starting point is 00:13:21 you're not going to go to HR HR is useless actually like it's not its own entity so technically like the teacher go to the teacher if you're being bullied and you're like bro I went to the, dude, worst memory ever in my life, but I went to the teacher. This is when I first, first moved to Bikipsey, Upstate New York. I was a new kid, and I had a cousin went to the school. But I went to, some kid was picking on me, and I was like, you know what, I just got here. I'm just going to tell a teacher like, hey, you know what, I'd rather not sit.
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Starting point is 00:15:44 And I was just like, I did that already. That's like, I was like, yo, show. And you wouldn't listen. And they were like, well, just, you know, just tell him stop. And that was it. That's all I was expected to do. Full proof. another stop. So my cousin beat him up. It does feel like you just there, the, the base advice that
Starting point is 00:16:05 every, every authority figure gives you is like the, the very wrong one. Like the very, like the worst advice. It's like, oh, if you get into an altercation, like I remember growing up thinking, like, if you get into like an altercation, you should call the police. And it's like, I would never, like, I would never, like, it would take a lot for me to call the police. Like even in a situation where like I thought that I might need something like that, you know? Because like or even just like an ambulance, like I'm not going to fucking call an ambulance. If I can Uber to a hospital, I'm doing that. Like I'm not going to-
Starting point is 00:16:42 I've literally done that. Yeah, of course. Because like what are you going to spend $2,000 on a fucking lift to the fucking ambulance? To the hospital? Fuck you. All the conventional wisdom go to HR. Call an ambulance. you get her called.
Starting point is 00:16:58 It's like it's all like not particularly you know useful. You know, it kind of feels like the internet is HR now actually when you think about it
Starting point is 00:17:08 because like things actually happen when shit comes up on the internet. I'd rather, the only time I would call a cop is if there's more than one person
Starting point is 00:17:21 armed in my house. Like if multiple armed people broke into my home then I would call the police. Yeah. Yeah. If one person broke in, I'd be like, all right, I'm going to try to take him. But if it's a bunch of them, then I'll be like...
Starting point is 00:17:35 I mean, it's not the smartest thing, but cool. Do you think you could... Do you think you could Kevin McAllister, like a random gunman, like in your... Like, a lone, like, I've got a little gun and I'm coming into your little house. Only if I know he's there first. Well, if I know he's there. That's it. That's it. Only if I know he's there. Only if I know he's there for...
Starting point is 00:17:54 He knows I'm there. That's the only way I can beat him. Other than that, I'm dying, probably. Hmm. I mean, how are you going to beat a guy with a gun? Do you have a gun? No, but I can, I'll break his limbs. I'm going to go straight past the bullshit. It'll be like, oh, I'm going to grab his arms, aim the gun up, and then I'm going to try to bite his jugular. So, like, something. There's a fucking wild. There's an Instagram page that I follow called Mick Dojo Life.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And you sound exactly like everybody that's posted on there. Oh, no, I would, I would try, but like, because that's the point. Like, you would try to disarm a person. with a gun and all of these people are those people on the page that are going to get shot in the face in a real scenario like that. Because I'm not going to come running at the guy. I'm going to watch my corners. If he comes around a corner, then I'm going to try to grab his arm and do something. Okay. But I'm like, I'm not going to run at it.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I'm not going to take him head on and try to like sidestep the bullets. So the best thing to do is to just get the fuck out of there. But if he comes through the entrance, I can't get out. Well, yeah, if you do have, yeah, that's true, in an apartment. Yeah, you're fucked. Well, you can always, you can fucking ninja football by a window. You can throw little marbles on the floor and watch them like slip, you know? Yeah, like you see one of those.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Set up all these traps, you know, paint cans that swing hit your head when you walk through the fucking threshold. I'd be really upset, but what I would do is I would just unplug one of my monitors and I'd be like, oh, fuck. And I'd wait until he'd come past my door and I would just hit him in a face one of my monitors. And if he's still up from that, then I'm going to die. because I'm going to swing it hard at him and if you should endorse that then I'm doomed What you should do is stream it
Starting point is 00:19:35 You should turn on your cameras And so at least when you die It's it's it's it's It is it is yeah It goes out People do TikTok dances to it And shit You know
Starting point is 00:19:48 Any fucking way man The final scene of your life Some kids doing fucking the renegade dance to your death. That'd be fantastic. That's the closing scene of your life. Anyway, fucking Activision sucks.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They've sucked for a while. Blizzard's not been... Blizzard hasn't made anything good in a long time. So it's not that much of a loss. But what I will say, listen, not that you have to put your money where your mouth is, but there's going to be three big shooters this year, this fall.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You can be free to play Halo. You got Battlefield and you could go with Activision's Call of Duty. You'd be cool though if you went with either of the other ones. Mainly just because they're both probably going to be better, but like, I mean aside from that, you know? Just generalized recommendation.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And I guess we could just move on. I did want to, before we, I did want to talk a little bit about Space Jam. I know you haven't seen it. But before we get into that, I want to mention this comment from Connor King, who wrote in about last week's episode. I forgot to intro with this. But he says, okay, Snarkies, episode 77 had a number of hot takes that had me steaming. However, only once did I actually get the urge to commit a hate crime.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It was when Mr. I lived in Greece and only fuck Europeans said that his favorite ancient myth was part of Greek mythology and then pronounce the character's name as Hercules. Get that bastardized Roman shit out of here and pronounce it correctly, Derek. That's so stupid. That is so stupid. It's Heracles. No, that's stupid. That is stupid as fuck. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:21:32 See, that's people that don't actually give a fuck about history. Yes, it was originally Heracles. No one calls him Heracles anymore. You go to fucking, no one calls him Heracles. Many people there call him Heracles. That's so stupid. That's really dumb. I hate when people do shit like that.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm like, no, dude. No one calls him that anymore. We know he used to be called Heracles. Then now everybody does. It doesn't fucking matter. He's Hercules now. Fucking everybody that, go talk to a historian, go up and like go watch any history buff on fucking YouTube. They will tell you the same fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:22:08 They don't give a fuck. You know, like, that was a dumb. Hey, dude, I'm sorry. That was a stupid fucking take. No one calls him Heracles literally. Maybe people who are Greek. and thousands of years old were calling Heracles.
Starting point is 00:22:24 No one's calling him that. He's like one of those people that if you called Aries, Ares, he'd be like, excuse me, the Greek people pronounce it Ares. And he would slap him in the face. Be like, I don't give a fuck what you think.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Like, you're wasting my time. Your breath offends me. Like, get away from me. But thank you for, you know, listening and stuff like that, you know? Thank you for giving us the donation, though.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I appreciate you. For the record, for the record, I don't only bang European girls. Yeah, yeah. That is what people have seen online. It's just like, look, I had to make a video. I had to make a video years ago when people were like, hey, fuck you. I had to make a video years ago when you're like, do you, do you even like black girls? You know, like people who just accuse me, you know, being like all fucking like that.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I had to make a video. I made a video that just to explain, I'm like, guys, I have only. been on the internet for a very small fraction of my life that you've seen. Like I've dated. I've lived in L.A. I've, man, I'm going to fucking gouge your eyes out. I'm just smiling, bro. What's me? I'm just saying. I go through the same shit all the time. Yeah. I go, I literally go through the exact same thing as you. People are like, you don't like, you know, black girls. It's like, what do you mean? Of course I don't. You've got. That's not even this like dude come on come on guys
Starting point is 00:23:59 It's been like four or five years to me be on the internet with YouTube and shit like that I've I've had Multiple like I you know I'm not gonna show pictures of these women they're in the past of you fucking weird But it's just like bro Can you imagine how bizarre that would be if someone just like tweeted like these are all of these are all of the people I've slept with You'd be like, yo, what is wrong with this person? Yo, that would be just as weird as, uh, there's, did you see that, that thread on Twitter of this guy, like, compiling the Olympics? Just, just all of like the, it's like, like, a hundred videos of like this guy just thirsty over all the, all the, um, all the, all the, all the female athletes. And like, oh, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:24:52 A lot of them are very attractive or something. But it's just like the creepiest. I'm like, yo, you can't just post like two things to say, oh, yeah, nice. This is, this, this, some nice cake right here. It's just weird to be that, like, anybody, like, watches the Olympics. Or, like, anything that's just not explicitly pornographic for those reasons. You know what I mean? Like, why fixate on, like, hey, here's an Olympian in shorts.
Starting point is 00:25:23 when there's like there's so much porn for you. Like what do you, I don't understand it. Part of it is not knowing for them. They're sick, Chris. They're not like you or me. That it's like, oh, this is to be done and then we're done with it. They're like, no, I want, I love the idea of imagining what that would look like or what it is. I think it is some type of game.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Their brains look different. It's like searching for porn. It's like searching for porn on YouTube, right? Like, you know, it's like you can easily go on. porn hub, but for some reason you want to, it's the game of, oh, look, I found the porn, and then it's, like, exciting. I think it's the same thing for these fucking, like, I remember being 16 years old and being like, yo, the fucking women's gymnastics is dope, you know, like, just fucking look at them.
Starting point is 00:26:09 They're all fat, perfect shape, and the asses are amazing, and, like, all this stuff. And then I got older, and then the internet was way better. And I'm like, I don't, I don't care anymore. I guess. I don't give a fuck anyway. That was a weird. That was a weird thread, though. That was a very, very, very, it was way too much.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It was thirst. His thirst was way too much. I thought it was remarkable. It was like, this man exists. These people haven't died out. They haven't fucking dried themselves out. No, they're still around. Somebody said, somebody said there was the same guy that went on a threat,
Starting point is 00:26:47 had a thread about the sub subtitles in an anime or something, like using the word. or it's suss or whatever. Do you remember that? I do remember that. It was like, someone said it was the same guy. I was like, what? Like this guy went on a, he went on a, he was so angry that he was thinking, nobody's going to understand what this means in like 10 years. Like, why are you using like stupid slang language like suss?
Starting point is 00:27:12 You know, because it was an anime. It said something like, oh, that's suss or whatever. And it was like a weird long thread. And it's like, bro. Like I think in any time period, anybody. would understand what Suss means in the context of how it's being used. And it's also not new either.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You know, it just became popularized, right? Yeah. It's not new. It's kind of old. The thing that people care about, like, the things that people care about on internet below my mind sometimes. Like, there's shit that people really, like, they care about. Like, they'll fucking
Starting point is 00:27:43 go to bat for some stupid shit sometimes. Yeah. And I'm just like, God damn. I respect that you exist, but like, shut the fuck up. What the fuck? What you're talking about? You said you want to talk about a... I was going to say something horrible.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But a space jam? Yeah, a little bit. Because it's... It... I watched it a couple, I think, like, last week. I think it's just a couple of times. I was like, oh, wow. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I was going to say a couple days ago, but that's probably like more accurate as last week. And I think... I genuinely couldn't believe. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. Check out this special moment we did on our show presented by eBay. When I was living in Chicago, I took part in my first ever giant charity sale, and I was able to auction several items from my personal closet on eBay.
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Starting point is 00:30:29 And I implore, if you haven't seen it yet, you really don't have to. Like, I thought I might have been missing out on something by, like, not seeing it. It's like, ah, they put fucking Rick and Morty in it. Ah, they put fucking Big Chungus, you know. And it was the worst thing I think I've seen in a long time. Like, I like it. Chungis, Morty. Yeah, and I liked it.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Just big chungis. I didn't think it was that bad. I didn't go there looking for, you don't go to a space jam too looking for anything special, you know. I didn't go there looking for anything, really. I went there like, oh, LeBron's going to be in the movie. I'm going to see the tunes again. This would be a good time.
Starting point is 00:31:07 It would be like a good old fame reunion, you know? It's like when you go to a fucking party, that is going to be a bad party, but there's going to be at least some sort of food there to eat. And you'll get something and you'll get out of there. So I saw it. I said, this is fine, I guess. It's not a good movie. That's it.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I had fun. The death of quality is everything you just said. Space Jam 2 was certainly not. It was certainly not fine. That's fine, I guess. You're out of your mind, man. Is Michael Jordan in it? No.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Michael B. Jordan was in it, though. What? Michael basketball Jordan was in it? I'm close to my guess. Basketball Jordan, not Michael Basketball, not Michael Jordan that played basketball. Basketball. And I was like, all right, this is fine, I guess. I don't, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:58 There's tunes. There's basketball. Was there any sex scenes? I didn't see any sex scenes. I thought that, so you're looking for the wrong space jam. Yeah, you're not. You're not selling me on this movie. It really is an egregious film.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Like, it's not egregious. It is. It is. It is so, dude, it's so cynical. No. It is. It's the most cynical movie I think I've ever seen in my entire life. And there are movies that try to be cynical that aren't even nearly as, because it's all just look at what we own. Look at what we own.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It's just Ready Player 1 again, except somehow worse. Like, it's actually worse. It's pretty much. It's not, look, there's movies like Dragon Ball Evolution and the last Airbender. It's worse. It's worse. It's not. That's Chris. It's worse.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's worse. Chris, I can't believe you just said that movie's worth. It is. I'm not going to get mad. I'm not going to get mad. Everyone that's hearing this right now, please slander him. You're out of your mind. Please everyone slander him.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I want to see it now, dude. This is insane. I'm on board. I'm on board now. It is worse by so many metrics. By so many metrics. You know why? It's not worse.
Starting point is 00:33:17 No, you know why it's worse? Because those other two, because I'm not. Those other two movies are movies. That's why it's worse because Space Jam 2 isn't a movie. It's an ad. Space Jam is a commercial, but it's a pretty much, it's like a two-hour-long commercial about various things put together. It's like an encyclopedia of commercials.
Starting point is 00:33:46 But I cannot, I don't think you saw the last Airbender. I did. The Last Airbender is a great, Chris, then you didn't watch Avatar. You, it's, to say, to say that's not the worst film ever is insane. See, somebody who's somebody like me who didn't watch the last Airbender could probably not be as offended. Like I think you would be. It's impressive. It's impressively bad.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It's like watching Dragon Ball Evolution as someone who's never seen Dragon Ball. They'd be like, oh, that was stupid. But they're not going to be angry. You know what I mean? Yes. Because that angry me. You can definitely, you can definitely see Dragon by Evolution and be like, hey, yo, what the fuck is this? Dude, you know what Picklella look like?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Pickle look like the fucking cybermen. Picklelele look like those fucking things that were like exploding and shit. Like, I'm like, what the fuck is this? It's terrible. I've never been offended by, like, I can watch, bro. I actually like the clone. I actually don't think that movie's horrible. I don't really think most films are on, but I'm like, oh, this is either not good, amazing, or you know what it happened?
Starting point is 00:35:00 And I was probably eating inside while I was on and I, this food is pretty decent. You know, that's all I feel. But you just consume and you like, you like most things. You like pretty much everything that you've ever seen. You watched all like fucking 15 seasons of Lucifer or whatever the fuck that show is. It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not the best show ever, but it's not bad.
Starting point is 00:35:19 bad. Avatar was offensive. Listen. But it's a movie. But it's a movie. No, it's not. It's a parody. It's a fucking parody of a movie. It's a parody of a show. Kingston.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Kingston. It's a bad movie, but it's a movie. It's, yo. It's a fucking movie. Avatar is like if you took the first book of Avatar and we're like, you know what? everything they did right about this movie, I'm gonna change to what makes sense to no one. And they did that. That movie is so bad. It's famously bad.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Like, it's one of the worst rated movies on Rotten Tomato. Yeah. For a reason. It's bad. Even people that didn't know about it were like, oh, this is horrible. Yeah, because you're not listening. It's a bad movie, but it's a fucking movie, dude. Like, if I went and, like, if I sold you a ticket to a movie and I just showed a picture of a fucking, where's Waldo?
Starting point is 00:36:18 puzzle for like two and a half hours, you'd be like, what the fuck? Like, what is this? This isn't even like, it's worse than the worst movie I've seen because it's not a movie and it's being sold to me as a fucking movie. That is what I'm talking about. If you had an album that was 12 tracks of silence, you'd be like, what the fuck? Why am I paying for? Even if this, even this lack of anything, even if it was just 12 tracks of silence, it would be a worse album than the worst album you've ever heard. Because it's not an album. And that's what Space Jam too was. It was literally just, hey. So you're saying there's no plot whatsoever. There is actually for real no plot at all. Even in even in comparison
Starting point is 00:37:08 to the original Space Jam. Dude, there is no space. Oh yeah It's called Space Jam There's no space Can Space Jam too That's pretty awesome You gotta watch it You gotta watch it
Starting point is 00:37:25 I'll watch it I'll watch it tonight I'll make sure I watch it tonight When I say there are a bad film When I say like this film is bad I mean it's like I mean it This is a bad film
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yo if you guys watch Cloin I didn't mind Coyne Because Coyne at least had one really funny scene where some kid named Bobby died and that had me in tears. So I was like, oh, this is not too bad of a film. You know, it had one good moment.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Maybe not on purpose, but I had one good moment. I don't think there's a film worse than the last Airbender. Now, everyone that's watched this that disagrees with me, you're sick. You're sick in the head, but I don't think Space Jam. It's worse than the first one. and the first one was kind of stupid.
Starting point is 00:38:14 The first one's not good. But it was charming. Yeah, yeah. First one's good as a kid, that's it. If you're like, I mean, I'm talking about fucking, you're older than eight, it's not going to be good. Dude, they had the fucking, they had the fucking clockwork orange rapists in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I saw that. I saw that. And I was just like, and the whole fucking last hour is just a big where's wall, though. Like, we were watching it, and we were so bored by the plot that we were literally just pausing it every couple seconds to see like what stupid property
Starting point is 00:38:45 they shoved in the background of every shot because that's all it's worth it's not a movie. It's just like a ooh, it's just, you know what it feels like? You know those videos on YouTube that are like 10 things you missed in fucking you know, it feels like a movie
Starting point is 00:39:01 that's literally just meant to make those videos for people? Like it's so sad. It's the most depressing thing I've seen. Yeah, but I Look, I'll let you guys aside. All I'm saying is that... I'll watch them back to back.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'll watch Space Jam 2 and the last... That's a bad night. That's a bad fucking night, dude. And there's no way to win because you're just going to hate the second one more because you've been... Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose. Check out the best of a moment we did
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Starting point is 00:41:26 You should watch both of them at the same time, like on two separate screens. Disabsorbing straight garbage for two hours at the same time and they go to bed afterwards. Go right to sleep. Bro, LeBron James crashes into the Looney Tunes world, and the crash mark, you know how like when like fucking, I don't know, Bugs Bunny like runs through the wall and it's like a shape, the shape of bugs and the wall? Yeah. The shape of LeBron's impact is literally the Nike symbol. And I was like, I fucking, I can. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. Yeah. I actually laughed at it because I couldn't believe how like cynical it was. It's so sad. He owns him. He's gone. I know. He owns LeBron. He's a...
Starting point is 00:42:12 You know what this reminds me of? But it's probably infinitely more egregious. That fucking Adam Sandler movie, Pixels. Oh, yeah, yeah. Where it was just like... It was just a cash grab. No, totally. It reminds me a lot of actually, like...
Starting point is 00:42:26 Because you know how the Lego movie is like kind of the same where it's like, oh, you know, it's a bunch of references to things and like, oh, hey, this is like all the properties that Warner Brothers' own. But like, the Lego movie was at least good and, like, had heart to it. and like, it also made sense that there would be all these references because Legos are like literally a collaborative fucking toy. Like it makes, made perfect sense. But here it was just like, dude, they go to Casablanca in, like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It's a fucking mess. Yeah, like all these fucking kids watching that are totally going to fucking know what's happening with that. The references were super out of date. That is one thing I 100% of me. The references were crazy. They had like Austin Powers and fucking. Are you serious? Austin Powers.
Starting point is 00:43:07 The Matrix. Hey look Morty, it's Austin Powers. I love them. You literally basically, like that's a scene. Yeah, nigga. Oh, geez, oh geez, Rick, this Tasmanian faggots really, really annoying me. I can't stand it. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Anyway, go watch it if you want, but like, I just, if you hated it, remember who told you. And if, you know, if you liked it, then, I mean, maybe at some point health care will be free so that you can get that checked out. Anyway, let's move on to... We had... I didn't know what else to talk about this week because the Activision thing and Space Jam really consumed me.
Starting point is 00:43:53 But I was asking the guys before we record it was like, what should we talk about? And Derek said, Britney Spears' tits, and that's all he said. I didn't know what he meant, but I guess. So what's the situation with the... the progress on this free Brittany thing because she's posting on Instagram again.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I don't know if that's her. She's a little more... Yeah, it's definitely her because it's stupid. You know, it's not what like a PR person would do or a manager or something. So as far as we know, she was able to get...
Starting point is 00:44:26 She got a famous lawyer that's going to represent her well and most likely could, you know, end her conservatorship. So cool. Now the number one thing when you're going through any case that your your uh your lawyer your people will tell you is to lay low always doesn't matter what it is if you're in the right or wrong whatever you lay fucking loan and let let the people that you're paying money you know to take care of everything but she's like
Starting point is 00:44:53 just decided to you know pose on instagram with her tits out first she's just covering them right she's just kind of covering them like you can't really see anything it's like whoa and then i was like oh it's crazy i didn't even realize how her tits were so big You know, because if you're not popping your titty's out, sometimes you're not really, you're not really paying attention how big someone's tits are. And, uh, and then she posts another one the next day, which is even more exposed and has these tiny little star things that you would just like, you know, just put over them. Just overlapping and you can still see nipple. Like it's not completely covered. And then of course, so it got taken down.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And then she posted the next day. she just posted again and so Britney Spears is just kind of wilding out man and I'm like yo I don't think because everyone's like is this what she meant by free Britney like she just wanted to fucking throw her
Starting point is 00:45:48 what if it's not her bro what if it's not her like someone's fucking dad what if it's her dad posting that to get more fucking power in the match
Starting point is 00:45:57 her dad just has pictures of her tits hey he's clearly a bad person already You can't expect him to have like, oh, this is his line. Like a few years ago, just to be like safe, he's like, Brittany, I need you to take a picture of your titties, you know, just, and he just like has them kept away and shit. She has no idea why, but he's, I'll trust you. You're the, you know, I trust you.
Starting point is 00:46:20 This was like when it first started, when he probably wasn't a scumbag yet, or at least hadn't been outed as one. Not every bad person's like Stanis Baratian, you know, not everybody has like limits. Like, oh, I only go so bad. before I stop. You know, most people are just like, fuck it. If I'm here, I'm here. It's going to do fuck shit. So I wouldn't be surprised, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Maybe she might just be like catching up, you know? Like she's been what, under this weird like NSA type rule for like fucking how many fucking decades? Yeah. Probably just like, hey man, I want to fucking post some. She want to do this a lot of time ago, right? Yeah, right? Honestly, go for it. Everyone thinks the only fans is coming.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And if the only, if the only fans is coming, are you going to peek? Are you curious enough to see Britney Spears' asshole? No. I don't think I have seen a variation of genitals that has not been repeated.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You know? Like, at a certain point, you see, like, oh, this is a pattern here. Like, I think I've seen, like, all eight variations of this thing. I'm sure there's several versions. You sound very... You sound very asexual. No, I just, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I just don't know. I'm not that curious I feel like I could I feel like when I see a person I can pretty vividly imagine like okay that's what that's probably it's probably what that's like you know and then I lose curiosity immediately and then I stop
Starting point is 00:47:46 I feel like your libido has been beaten out of you it's just gone because like I just like I'm like oh I I want as soon as I see it then I'm like I'm cool but I'm like I want to see you naked you know like just just show me and I'm like all right
Starting point is 00:48:01 And you're right, though, Chris, you are right. It's not like any different. You know, there's no, it's not some crazy patterns or some shit, you know? Like, like, you're right. I've seen some, some, I've seen like, I think there's only three kinds of vaginas, right? There's the, there's the standard ones. There's the standard, like, like, like, very regular vagina, you know, nothing, nothing's hanging. I've seen the loose Libya ones where the lips are a little floppier.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Libya. You fucking idiot. Labia, sorry, labias. Labia's similar. Lus Libias. Similar to that of a butterfly, you know? Similar that of the butterflies wings.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Sure. And then I've seen like really horrible ones like pastramian shit. I've seen like really horrible ones that are like prolapsing. I'm like, all the vaginas that exist. Like they can't be more than this. And I haven't seen any more than that, you know. I've seen. I just feel like this.
Starting point is 00:49:00 only so many variations of dicks and vaginas that could possibly exist and you know like at a certain point you just kind of i don't know you see people you see famous people and you kind of like auto fill the details in your head and it's like i don't really care like because i've noticed this too i've noticed this specifically like sometimes i'll be really curious right and then there will be like oh some movie right that they did in the past where it's like it's all out there or whatever And then I look at it and it's like, oh yeah, that's pretty much what I thought or like, even if it's not, it's never like so surprising that I just had to see it. You know, it's just like, oh, yeah, that's what that is. It's such a non-thing to me, like nudity in general now.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Like it's just, it's almost like a doesn't do anything. I agree because for me, what did it for me was seeing DeNaris naked and Game of Thrones. Like that was like the main hot girl and then she was naked. And I was like, oh, she's just a woman with a body. Like, damn, like, people are just people. Like, I ain't unspecial about anybody, really. And it kind of pacified me as a person. I feel like it's the chemicals that make you think that way in the first place.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You guys are depleted. It's happening. I don't think I'm depleted, bro. When you calm down and, like, say, you don't appreciate, like, say, somebody's, you know, bits and pieces, It doesn't matter who it is, someone that you're really attracted to, for example, a significant other or whatever. I can appreciate an attractive person. That's the whole point, though. It's not like there's appreciation and then there's meh and you're at the meh stage.
Starting point is 00:50:41 No, I'm just at a not immensely curious stage. Like, if some, dude, if someone... This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. Check out this special moment we did on our show, presented by eBay. There's a different kind of care that comes. comes with letting something meaningful go, especially when it has a story attached to it. When you pass something on, you want to know it's being handled with respect. I took part in my first ever giant charity sale, and I was able to auction several items
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Starting point is 00:52:20 On-Dec does not lend in North Dakota all loans and amounts subject to lender approval. Like in my vicinity, you know, like I'm at a bar with fucking Allison Brie or something like, yes, I'm going to be high. I'm going to be very curious because I'm in a situation where I have a shot at, way more of a shot than I ever would. But like if it's just some celebrity like on TV that like, like, I don't know. Like I just, uh, I don't, uh, I don't entertain anything that cannot possibly be made real. I'm physically attracted to the person I'm with Because that's the person I'm with obviously It's a different kind of situation
Starting point is 00:52:56 But when it comes to like just people It's just like I'm like What is so special about this person? It's not I feel like You think weird Al has like a like a 10 inch dick you think What if he had a fucking You just don't know His knee cap bro
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like the wrap on his kneecap bro Like the one of his kneecap Like a fucking constrictor Dude one thing I've learned about Like dudes that are like really packing Like that's just that makes no sense of their body at all. They like, they're completely quiet about that shit. They're like kind of like weird about it. They're never like, oh, look how large my fucking penis is and shit. It's like, I've known
Starting point is 00:53:30 some fucking dudes like that. And they're all kind of like, yeah, kind of stop. You know, and everybody else is like, yo, this dude's packing. He's like, calm down. He's never like standing on the rooftop and being like, yo, what's up and pulling his dick out and shit. It's always like. The thing is this. It's cool until you sleep with a girl and then they realize, what that is and how like many guys would like comedically big penises, girls like, I don't want to, I don't want to sleep with them. Yeah, it wrecks them. It's like, I don't want, that's not fun. As a general rule, I think, the people who brag are the, are typically lying. It's like the people with like, like loud cars or whatever the fuck. It's like, look, I'm fucking so cool.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Look at me. I'm huge. And then like, whenever I hear like cars like that, I always comes to my. mind, I'm like, do we need those people in this world? No. Do they need to be here at all? We don't need them, but we don't dictate who said, if they stay or not. But we should, though. That's what that's the whole question. No, you see, this is, this is what happens when you guys listen to too much of that,
Starting point is 00:54:36 that fucking, that heby, jiby rock music, man, you see. No. The other hand. We just want things to be chill, man. And those people have no chill. First is going to be the guys, the loud cars. Then it's going to end up as furries. and then it's going to take a thick dip and it's going to be something crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I know it, I always have been to have to have. Look, furries, no, look it, look it. Furries are like, what the fuck, but they're not hurting. They're not doing anything. No, no, look it. It's the people, all I want to do is get rid of the people that are, they are harming or doing stuff. Like, those loud things hurt your ears, set off car alarms. They're just obnoxious.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Get that shit out of here. People not using their turning signals. you know, cutting people off. They, like, I think I've said before, they should just be ejected from the road. Like, a spring should just shoot them out, and then they're just gone. Like, as soon as that shit happens.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Like, I want, I just want, like, just stop fucking, just stop being a piece of shit. That's it. That's it. It stops there. If you want to be a fucking furry and stuff, even though I'm like, that's fucking weird as shit, you're not hurting anybody.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Go ahead and being your fucking weird suit where you die of heatstroke and shit. Like, you go do you. You go do you I hate you Go die of huge I'm not saying they probably will I don't want them to die
Starting point is 00:55:58 Okay Yeah dude I don't understand how those people Like dude like imagine throwing He could really probably sabotage a lot of them If you were like we're gonna throw a free furry convention in Vegas In like August And just like watch all these people Like flock to like some hotel in Vegas
Starting point is 00:56:14 And like pass away from like a 120 degree Dude, do you remember when we went to Vegas and my phone exploded and I had to go drunk in the middle of the day to get it replaced? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I almost passed out and I was in shorts and a tank top. Like, imagine being in like a, like a Chucky Cheese number. Yeah, you're dead in minutes.
Starting point is 00:56:36 You're dead in fucking minutes. Doesn't even matter how much you hydrated. That's so vile. That's so vile. You give them a bunch of water so they think they're fine and you fucking crank the heat up and watch them die. Put a little bit of salt in the water too to make it Oh my god
Starting point is 00:56:52 Silly just ass away Oh man You go to one of them and he's flat Because all his body got dissolved So he's flat Amaciated By the way, not my idea You can't pin it out of it
Starting point is 00:57:08 I mean nobody wants it happen I mean I definitely dreamt about it But that's not me that's like my subconscious So like you can't blame me for like saying this If anything happens that's like this, I didn't believe me, no, it's not me. Anyway, I guess that was a sufficient enough fucking pairing of topics. Let's go fucking... Let's go into some questions from our wonderful supporters, huh?
Starting point is 00:57:35 Let's go! Let me go to the... Let's go. Let's go. The drink being held by Chris wrote in. He says, What's up? Creatures of the Abyss. What's the most unsettling fact about animals that you know?
Starting point is 00:57:48 Mine is that nobody knows how or where eels reproduce. I don't know if that's true. I never heard of that. I never heard of that one. You know what's weird about that? That doesn't sound real, but at the same time, I genuinely don't know. So if you isolated eels, you couldn't figure that out? That just sounds not real to me.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Despite knowledge of their round-trip migration, scientists still haven't observed mating in the wild or found a single, eel egg. Leading theories suggest that eels reproduce in a flurry of external fertilization in which clouds of sperm fertilized free floating eggs. That's kind of wow. In the wild, but like say, I, because I'm sure, there must be eel farms. There must be eel farms. That's what they said in the wild. That's why they stayed in the wild. We probably see it in captivity, obviously. So in captivity, they would know, meaning that say it would be the same fucking, unless they changed their behavior in captivity versus the wild.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Maybe that's the point. That might be the thing. Because it just says the leading theory suggests and you would assume that they would have like, it wouldn't be just a theory if they had them in captivity. That's fucking weird. That's actually kind of interesting. Well, no. And it says leading theories in a wild, it stated in the wild. So in the wild, that is the case.
Starting point is 00:59:02 No, no, no. In captivity, they know where they are. That's why it stated in the wild in a document. No, no. That's not what it says. It's not what it says. Leading theory suggests that eels are reproduced in a flurry of external fertilization. Like, not in the wild. in general like how they would, but nobody knows because they haven't observed it. But they would, they have to
Starting point is 00:59:19 observe it in the farm, in an eel farm. I don't think there's not possible. I don't think there are eel farms. There's ears and captivity. That sounds absurd. Yeah, that doesn't mean they reproduce. But they have, like, okay, that's the whole point of a farm. Maybe that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Well, that's what I'm saying. It's not a farm. Captivity is not a farm. Well, like, like, Like, we're not like, He kept chipping prisoners up and making prisoner like fucking Prisoner burger.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah, because it's not a farm. It's not a fucking farm. It would be a farm though. To keep reproducing so they can keep having more eels to sell them so people can eat them. I think there are just a lot of eels. Maybe. Hold on, wait.
Starting point is 01:00:01 There's a lot of eels period. There's no eel like preservation or no eels in aquarium. So here you go, eel farm. My assumption is that they, well, if they do, logic dictates, if they don't know how these things reproduce, then they must just keep getting new eels from outside, because otherwise they would know how they reproduce. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Somebody just put a channel that I watched called Thoughty 2, is this British fuck with a mustache. He actually just made one. Five years ago, it says why nobody knows how eels produced, so I'm going to look into that afterwards. But I just imagine I'm seeing these eel farms. You know, Asia eel grows to harvest and processing, blah, blah, blah. so obviously there's farms for them to grow and, you know, they have to be reproducing, so they have to know, have some idea. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like, it seems... I think the assumption is that they need to be together to reproduce, but I guess they've just never observed anything that they could specifically qualify as mating. Because it must be like just very weird. I don't know. Maybe. Because why would they not know? There's so many farms like you're talking about. Like they would have to, they would have to know.
Starting point is 01:01:18 But if they don't, that must mean it's just weird. Yeah, maybe they've never seen. See, that's, it could be one of those things like, like, where it's like, oh, we don't know how to build a pyramid. We don't know how the pyramids were built, but we're pretty sure we know. You know, it's like one of those things now. It could be like that where it's like it's not set in stone, but at this point, they have a very good idea how they were built.
Starting point is 01:01:39 So scientists still have not observed. Mating in the wild. I know so that's... But that's not... So in the wild, this context, that is literally... Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose. Check out the best of a moment we did, presented by eBay. Music has always been one of my teachers.
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Starting point is 01:03:37 context they would have said mating period it would have said in the wild I read that already yeah exactly that states that they would have they wouldn't have and and like captivity probably would have seen it by now you I think you would have had to because that's why it specifies that statement there's no scientists ever they just always miss it there's all every single one they just like if you if you put it's fucking if you put cameras on eels constantly they're gonna see it eventually now they just they just turn them off The eels just turn them off. But they don't.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Why are you not grasping this? This is such a simple concept. You're saying they don't see them. There is no activity, presumably, that an eel engages in, that can be compared to any other animal's reproductive cycle. That is why theories suggest that they reproduce in a flurry of external fertilization, meaning they just expel sperm and others expel eggs and it's not particularly visible and they just sort of like appear in that fertilization or like the egg grows in the fertilization or whatever but like well i i do but i i do agree with swinging with the with the with the word in the wild meaning that because i think even captivity
Starting point is 01:04:53 you would have to see the sperm and the eggs being dropped at some point if they're just in a fucking tank right one would assume one would assume it's like it kind of would have to happen this is so weird. I actually had no idea that this was even a thing. I just assumed that it fucking reproduced like literally everything else. Yeah, because like who, why would you not think that, you know? There's no other reason not to think that, oh, I wonder what animal fucks weird or reproduces weird, you know? Like, it's not a thought that you have in your mind. They complete their life cycle by spawning, then dying. For centuries, the location where eels were born was a mystery. even today, no one has ever seen eels spawning in the Sargasso Sea.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Matter of fact, no adult eels or eggs have been found there. Even though that's where they're from. That's fucking weird. That actually is bizarre. I don't like that. That reminds me of the jellyfish thing. They're aliens. They're just immortal and they just become completely different things.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And then it's like a whole fucking cycle. I hate that. Yeah, it's transmorph. Figures it would be another fucking ocean creature that would have something like this. Of course. They're all aliens They're all aliens It's obvious
Starting point is 01:06:01 They're fucking aberrations That fell into our planet And we haven't been able to expel them yet But one day they're gonna become a problem I swear to God But um There's a whole society where we can't reach It's obvious
Starting point is 01:06:11 Yeah Like they're their sentient and everything I'm pretty sure the weight The fucking pressure from the ocean Isn't real I'm pretty sure those creatures make it happen Is their magic It's artificial
Starting point is 01:06:23 We go down there and it starts hurting us Because they're fucking vile magic Start corrupting our bodies I'm sure. You know that literally, you know the funny thing is if like having that technology, that could be, not like saying it's real,
Starting point is 01:06:38 but it's possible to do that. It's possible to create pressure that. You know, it's possible to do that. So that would be fucking hilarious if that wasn't real. Like if what we thought of physics was like not real because they were just like, oh, we thought this was the case.
Starting point is 01:06:56 But then somebody accidentally flipped. the switch off and it was completely fine and then the lights turn on and like pressure pressure from water is it really and you see like speak easies and shit and they're like they're like oh shit they caught us you would have genuinely
Starting point is 01:07:12 no idea how much something like that would just break me as a person I don't think I would be I'd quit everything like I would like the podcast is done I'm I'm moving I'm going to the mountains or something like if that is true
Starting point is 01:07:28 And like, the pressure of the ocean is just a fucking figment of a lot of cooperating creatures agreeing to not let us go down there. That is something so vast and so deep and so religious in its fucking conception that I couldn't continue the way things. Like, I don't know how you could, I don't know how any sane human being can just continue the way things are, you know, as they were, knowing that information. That's fucked. That's like a whole... It's Eldridge. It's like finding out your dogs are humans. Like one day your dog stands up, takes a fucking unzips himself and it's a person.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And you're like, what the fuck? What the fuck is that? What do you mean? You know everything about me. You've been in my home. It's like, yeah, sorry about that. And he walks out your house knowing all your fucking secrets. It's like finding out toy story is real.
Starting point is 01:08:20 It's just like, how do you react to the toy story is real? That would fuck with me. That would fuck with me. I would scare the shit. The toys, all the toys that I, all that time. all the fuck shit that they saw me do and you know all they just oh man I couldn't get over
Starting point is 01:08:34 that shit dude no way I'd have to kill all my toys yeah all can you kill them? You'd have like a crazy war Can you kill them? You can't even kill your toys because they're not fucking alive conventionally so if you fucking cut it
Starting point is 01:08:48 it'll be alive so I guess you could What if the plastics alive and they meld into gigantic like multi-mind fucking plastic creature that probably could happen Toy Story is a movie that's best not thought about too heavily because the second you play with anything it's a toy right so does that bestow
Starting point is 01:09:04 sentience upon it like if you play with like do sex toys coming alive yeah right that would be that would be the that was supposed to be the fourth one but then they changed it isn't wait isn't isn't isn't isn't that like a whole thing in the fourth one where like the fork is like a toy because it was
Starting point is 01:09:20 you know I never saw the fourth one so I don't know but it's all right it's alright it's another choice right immediately but Yeah It's not even sad What are you talking about The fourth one?
Starting point is 01:09:32 I cried because I cried Because of the meaning of it Not so much It being sad I was like oh my God I can't believe It's been four of these I remember seeing this
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Starting point is 01:09:48 When the Tasmanian devil spun around real fast And then the basketball court Like flipped like that And then he scored on their side Yeah it was when it tells me to broke the way fucking rotation worked and no one said anything about it. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 01:10:04 He just fucking completely cheated. That's dope. That was honestly the most clever thing that I saw in that movie, to be honest. That was the whole movie. Cheating. Dildo Penetrator of Uranus rode in. Sick. Says, hey, come, crew. Do you all think that eating a person's ashes is cannibalism? Technically, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:26 It's... Yo, what the fuck? man. That's a technicality. Like, I wouldn't consider it real. Like, because, like, if you, if you want to eat ashes in the first place, there's probably something way wrong with you that's just beyond the fact that it's person ashes, because at a certain point, ashes is just ash. You're like, you're not really getting much, there's no humanity in that, really. So, like, you're just, you've just got an ash problem, which is its own, you know, problem that's its own fucking can of worms that i don't want to i don't want to open really
Starting point is 01:11:01 but i've never been so disappointed in the fact that i'm part of this podcast in my life other than hearing some question like that what the what are you just like oh hmm is eating a person's ashes cannibalism like what the fuck that's a reasonable question okay sure what do you know the answer who the fuck thinks about that in the first place? Well, so you don't have the answer, so it's a good question, isn't it? It's not, no, it's not cannibalism. Why not? It's not a person. It's not a person anymore.
Starting point is 01:11:37 That's what I would say that. Well, what would you say if someone specifically sought out the ashes of people to eat? But not, they wouldn't. Oh, that's really fucking weird. You're eating people's ashes. You fucking psychopath. They're sentimental value. And the fact that the ashes plus everything that got turned into smoke was a person.
Starting point is 01:12:01 But like, you know, crazy fact, you know, if you cremate somebody, all the smoke that's released, if you add the weight of all that smoke and the ashes, it weighs the person's weight when they were cremated. That's so fucking freaky to me. I mean. So is this weird to think about that? Like if you burn a 300 pound person and you got. I mean, that's all matter works. That's how matter works, but it's just creepy that it can be that much smoke. I got 400 pounds of smoke in the back of my car.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Let's go do something crazy with it. You know, it's just strange. I mean, you could. You could trap it in like a fucking, in like one of those. Heavy-ass thing of fucking smoke. Yeah, you see those like gas cans and shit where you just pack like gas full and it's heavy as fuck. It's like hundreds of pounds.
Starting point is 01:12:48 You know, like you can definitely do that with smoke. So why not let's fucking do that? and we'll make a, you know, like it'll be like a gnaz tank and then you'll fucking just have hits of somebody. Yeah. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. Check out this special moment we did on our show presented by eBay. There's a different kind of care that comes with letting something meaningful go,
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Starting point is 01:14:40 Take a fucking hit of Hitler. Smoke get to get hit in him. You immediately become racist. You're like, oh shit, man, that fucking guy with that big nose, I don't know about him. If you take it, if you take a small enough fit, you become good at art. You have like a really small enough hit and you get like a more of autistic mind, artistic, not autistic. He might have been autistic, though. But he might have been autistic.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Would I surprise you at all? Not even slightly. Not even remotely. I'm like, oh, that's crazy. I actually don't know. I think I would be surprised. Why? Yeah, I don't really think he has...
Starting point is 01:15:20 You know how to get? They get fixated on stuff. He was definitely fixated. I don't... Here's the thing. Maybe this... Oh, man. Let's say, let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Let's hear it, Chris. I already went there. Listen, to be a leader that a lot of people follow, I feel like you have to, at least, on some level, relate to people on one-on-one conversations and in meetings. and like in order for him to like convince generals and like convince people at the top to like follow him. He had to be very, very charismatic. And I don't know if like, I just don't know if that really goes hand in hand with like autism.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Say it. I said it. Because dude, you think about like people like Elon Musk. He has a lot of fans, but only because he bought a thing, really. Like he's not a particularly charismatic person. he's not fun to listen to, he's not interesting, he's not funny. He just, he just owns a thing that does, he owns a company that does cool things. I don't think Elon Musk, if like it was purely personality driven, I don't think he could
Starting point is 01:16:31 like convince that many people to like just believe in the shit that he does. Oh, definitely not. I think, I think, listen to him talk is insightful because when he talks about proper, like, No, I'm talking about fucking Elon Musk. You got to understand how to control your own conversations, but like he's insightful. He's actually very intelligent. So it's like, oh, this is pretty insightful seeing this guy who probably can't describe, you know, the days of the week. Talk about fucking like proper, like mechanical engineering.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I don't even really understand it, but it's insightful. But what if Hitler's thing was, you know, know, convincing people. You know how they have their things, you know? Like, oh, that one's good at piano. This one's real good at man. This one's real good at convincing people. The Nazi party's not a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Look, honestly, to be completely real, like, I think there's a pretty high chance that the overwhelming majority of people are like some percentage, like, on the spectrum, I think. Like, is there people... Because I don't know if, like... I don't know, the degree by which that, like... The definition...
Starting point is 01:17:46 definition for these things used to be very, very different. You know, like, in the 90s, the bar was pretty fucking pretty high, you know, to actually have, like, a diagnosis like that. And then, like, it gets looser and looser as the years go on, whether or not that's, like, legitimate or whether or not that's more accurate is like, I don't know. I don't know anything about that shit. But, yeah, I don't think, look it, look, I don't think Hitler, his main goal was the Holocaust. I think it was the, it turned into something,
Starting point is 01:18:21 because his goal was domination. No, initially it was a restored Germany. Then he got cuckoo because he knew it was working. Before, no, like, he, sure, that was a part of it. But Hitler sought after power, you know. So he became chancellor, and then he became chancellor and the fear at the same time, which was kind of weird. And then after it just started building more and more.
Starting point is 01:18:47 And then he did some things that helped. And everybody was like, yay. And then that's when it came to the weird shit about him. Like, what do I do to have people still follow me and let's do all this shit? Oh, these people are all the problem. And then it just got fucking crazy. I can't blame that on being on the spectrum, dude. I can't because it wasn't like.
Starting point is 01:19:09 I'm not blaming him. I'm not saying autism leads the people being Hitler-esque, all right? That's no, but you're saying, but you're saying, Is he, all right, let's get that out of the window. I'm just saying that what was your point? If he was autistic, that wouldn't be like a shocker to me. I'm like, oh, okay, he did have a lot of focus in this particular thing. You're out of your lines.
Starting point is 01:19:34 But see, that's not the old. Look, look, look, look at, look at, look at. This is, this is, by the way, this is the conversation that gets us canceled without a fucking dad. This is the conversation in like, in like five years time where it's like listen to how they talked about Hitler potentially being Hitler because he's autistic. Listen, Swinney's going to be taking care of this like really prominent like person of the Jewish community and then he's going to pull up his phone and be like, hey, is this you? It's going to be this conversation. What are you going to say? I'm going to be like, honestly think about it. Just think about it for a
Starting point is 01:20:12 second. And then he's going to be like, and then he's going to be like, sir, I'm autistic. Now look, now look at how focused you are. How the hell did we get into this? I don't fucking know. Are you very focused on things?
Starting point is 01:20:28 Let's move on. What was the question? What was the question? Listen, don't worry about it. I need to know. The question was about like fucking whether or not eating people's ashes is cannibalism. Oh, oh. That's fucking great.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And we ended up on our is Hitler autistic conversation? Not is, could he have been? It wouldn't be shocking if he was. How is that any different? How is that any different? Is Hiller Arquististic versus could he have been? Could Hitler have been autistic? I want that to be a whole YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Oh my. Oh my God. All right. Yeah. Okay. Moving on, right? I'm so down. I'm so down.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Holy shit. All right. Chrisley Bear wrote in. He says, hello, one who always brings up Halo, one who always brings up sex, and one who always brings up race. When eating cheese sticks or string cheese or whatever you want to call it, do you eat it like a normal human being and just bite into it because it's already the most convenient form possible? Or do you take needless extra steps and peel the cheese for no reason and get the cheese in your fingernails because you're stupid? I had a screaming match with my friend about this the other day. agree with me and inflate my ego please and thank you. Hey, we found the autis.
Starting point is 01:21:47 We found the guy on the spectrum. Like, that's some shit right there. That's some shit right there. I love my laughing like that. Brough, this is like, imagine not having any joy in your life. That's what that is. It's like biting ice cream, an ice cream cone. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:22:05 And it's biting it on me. I've seen people do shit like that. You see that shit. It's disgusting. things. What the fuck's wrong with you? There's no joy in your life. You're supposed to lick it.
Starting point is 01:22:14 It lasts longer. It's nice. That's the point of putting it in the ice cream coat. You don't just fucking bite it. Like a cheese string. You can buy a block of cheese, asshole. Why would you buy string cheese and then eat it like fucking normal cheese? What a fuck even bite your block of cheese?
Starting point is 01:22:27 You got a, that's like buying goger and being like, um, putting it in a fucking spoon and an idiot, you fucking dumble fuck. That is, listen, listen. Gogger to the spoon. Go Gert spoon Listen, chrisley bear We got to talk, man This is
Starting point is 01:22:46 Look, you support our show We love you, we care about you Yeah, yeah This is actually This is one of the most Reprehensible things I've ever heard You don't, the whole point Is that you're supposed to savor it
Starting point is 01:22:57 And it also, by the way, it tastes way better In thinner slices than it does As a fucking brick Like this way Chomp on it There's a flavor distribution That you have to take
Starting point is 01:23:07 into account when you're eating something that's meant to be eaten in a very specific way. Like this is the type of shit that like, oh, I'll just, I'll, like, eat a Jolly Rancher and I'll, like, crunch it. Like, no, dude. Like, it's a, it's a, it's a sucker candy.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Suck the fucking candy, dude. Like, don't, this is crazy. This is, like, fork and knife pizza. This is like, all these different things. It's like, you can't do this. There is, there are fork and knife pizzas. Shut the fuck. No, what the, don't say that.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Absolutely there is. Calm the fuck down. That is literally a thing. No, and it's not. I've seen rich people do it and they should be killed. Eat the rich. Eat them. Look, calm down.
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Starting point is 01:25:49 pizza with a bit of a thicker crust, I can understand why you would do that. I get it, you know? I get it. Why are you eating it like that? Or free in a deep dish. I eat it like that. I get it. You know, I get, why are you eating it like that? There's a place called Masa of Echo Park. I don't know if it still exists, but it has the thickest deep dish ever. You cut it and you fucking eat it with your goddamn hand because it's a pizza pie.
Starting point is 01:26:17 This guy's a psycho. I'm a psycho. This guy's a fucking psych. That's just how you eat food. Do you eat fucking fried chicken with the fucking fork and knife too, bitch? No, but I'm not eating fried chicken. That's particularly huge. I can hold fried chicken in my hand all the time.
Starting point is 01:26:34 You slice it and then you fucking put it in your hand and you eat it. What the fuck is the fork and knife for? I'm not going to eat a Brooklyn slice of pizza like that, obviously. Yeah, but here's, but to your fucking point, to your point that you're making, you should because of how goddamn big it is. No, the Brooklyn slice isn't deep. It isn't fucking hyper thick. It's just a big piece.
Starting point is 01:26:57 It's just a big piece. It's just a big team. Deep. You can put something in your hand. and still have it tower. What would you need a fork in knife for, bitch? The point is something being too long, you want to cut it up and eat it.
Starting point is 01:27:11 No, man. The point from me is that I can fold a pizza pizza and fold and I can hold and eat it. You can... Most people can do it. You can hold something... Look at something that is this fucking big. Let's say it's three inches fucking tall.
Starting point is 01:27:25 And it's only fucking two inches wide. You can put it in your hand. Or let's just say five inches wide. Yes. Put it in your hand. Yes, that's like a small piece of pie, yes. But if I'm eating a bigger piece of pizza, like I had pizza when I was in, um, when I was in, uh, uh, a Pismo Beach. And I was like, oh, this is a bit of a thicker.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I could still eat it like that, but eating it with a fork and knife would have been fine because it was a thicker piece of pizza. It was long and relatively thick. You're, you're, that's why I eat it like that. I'm not just eating, I'm not eating like a thin slice of cheese. You're fucking sad. It's not. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I have never seen anybody
Starting point is 01:28:06 eat pizza with a fork and knife that I didn't think was a fucking idiot. But, whatever. The point is, there are specific ways that you are supposed to eat things, okay?
Starting point is 01:28:20 You don't bite into ice cream, you don't crunch Jolly Ranchers, and you don't bite into fucking string cheese. Like, you just don't do these things, because we've agreed as a society that certain things are not okay. It's the same reason that we stopped bashing weak babies into the stones.
Starting point is 01:28:44 You know, we don't do that because we've agreed there is, there is, there's just general consensus that that's not ideal. There's etiquette. There's certain levels of etiquette. Like, let's say, like, dude, like patron, right? Let's say you got a sub, right? You're cut in half. And instead of eating at one of the ends, you started eating it from the middle first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Like that's not how you do that, buddy. That's barbaric. But look, man, look, I just want to say if it has the word pizza in it, you know, it's good for your hand. Now, say if you have something like a fucking lasagna that will fall apart, sure. Have a fork and knife, man.
Starting point is 01:29:23 But if it sits nicely on your fucking piece of dough, you know, it's good in your hand. I've never had any. I've never had any type of pizza, even deep dish where I've had to use a fork and knife. Like, I've had deep dish pizzas that I could easily hold. That's what I'm talking like, I had one of the thickest ones. I said this Masa Echo Park place. Still, I didn't, I just, it's just like one of those things where I feel like I've seen royalty eat pizza with a fork and knife.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And I'm like, I'm not that. I will never be one of those pompous twats. I'm not, that's fucking retarded. And Sweeney's like, ooh, that's me. He's like, oh, I want to be. be like that. I like, look, I'm so posh. I love UK, you know, all this shilly
Starting point is 01:30:06 fucking weirdo. I fucking hate the UK. I fucking hate that. Apparently, I've been there. Apparently, I had to go there. You're very posh, dude. You're very fucking like Elizabethan. I wouldn't say I'm very posh. I'm not. Don't say that about me. Watch your mouth, all right? Watch your fucking mouth, right? Don't fucking do you. I'm not the one that wants to eat
Starting point is 01:30:20 fucking pizza with a fork and knife, man. I'm just saying. You calling me Elizabethan hurts generation because I'm Jamaican. That's painful to my blood. Not me. I don't know why I'm angry, but my blood hurt so you say that. Just put the forkin nut down, okay? That's all I ask.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Don't ever do that again. That's like those motherfuckers that roll up bread into balls and eat it. It's like, yo, what the fuck? That psycho shit. You might as well eat your shit, bro. My cousin would do that. And I would be like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with you? He would get bread.
Starting point is 01:30:52 He'd eat the slice of bread. And he'd be like, watch this. And eat it like a ball. And I'm like, bro. Why'd you just do that? You know what? I would do that when I was a kid. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:31:05 I would do that. You fucking ate. I haven't done that since I was like maybe like 11. But like when I was a little kid and I didn't know how to make any food. I didn't know how to cook for myself. And like we all we had was bread. And I was like, I would eat a slice of bread. And I was like, I want more bread, but I'm bored of bread.
Starting point is 01:31:23 So I would like try and make different ways that I could like enjoy bread. But like the second you learn how. how to make a fucking grill cheese or like anything. You know, if I knew people who were doing that into their fucking 20s, there's no way I would still be friends with them. Like, without a fucking shadow. No. Look, I figured out how to make lettuce and mayonnaise sandwiches when I was six.
Starting point is 01:31:46 That's fucked. That's sad. Because I didn't understand, I didn't understand that other things went in there. I was like, oh, lettuce, mayonnaise, this looked like sandwich. That's the saddest shit. You never had like a cheese sandwich growing up or something or just like a basic fucking. You know what's crazy? I would never.
Starting point is 01:32:03 I would have, I had to let us in humanitarian sandwich before I had cheese sandwich before I like understood about cheese better. Because I remember I figured out how to make a grilled cheese when I was like eight. I was like, oh, this is how you make this. I wasn't allowed to make it, but I was like, I get this now. Then I figured out because I'm a very particular sandwich person, even now into my older age. Like I'm very particular about what I have in my sandwich. What kind of like I have to get. Boershead honey turkey.
Starting point is 01:32:29 I have to get Boershead lettuce. Not letus, Swiss cheese always imported. Like I have to have a very particular And you say you're not fucking posh, did. All right, dude. No, I have to because sandwich culture is really big in New York. That's why.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Like, sub and sandwich culture is very, especially where I grew up, it was very big. Sort of. Yeah. I lived right next to a bodega. So, like, I would come downstairs and I would get a certain sandwich and I would go to school. That was how it was every fucking day for like,
Starting point is 01:32:55 from like second grade to like, I left when I was a seventh grader. Yeah. So now, like, I have to do that. And for me, when I was little, I started figuring on that I like sandwiches, you know, because it had so many flavors or tasting it. So I would have lettuce, a little bit of pepper. And man, they used to eat for sandwiches.
Starting point is 01:33:15 That is so sad, man. I can make sandwiches. And my stew was like, yo, what are you eating? And I'm like, I'm making a sandwich. That's like, object poverty. That's like, that's what that sounds like. That is an insane combination. Like is like you like I didn't understand meat yet I think the first sandwich that I can like really remember like as like a common thing like I would always have like salami and cheese sandwiches like those those are the sandwiches like salami cheese and like maybe something else but like there's always maybe mustard or something like I'm not sure I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Hell yeah but yeah basic sandwiches I would sometimes I even I got to the point where if you cook bologna it it tasted much better and uh so I would just throw that shit in the sandwich and uh and then sometimes my mom would buy spasers. When I look back of it, I'm like, why would you ever do that? But I ate it. I thought it was really good, actually. Spam's kind of, you know, spam's kind of good. You spam, cook the right way, bro. Like, cook spam. It's good.
Starting point is 01:34:09 It's different. I don't know why it's so much better when it's cooked. But you, I feel like that's something you shouldn't eat. That's all. Oh, yeah, it's so much sodium. It's straight up salt that's colored like me. It almost looks like nothing. I'm like, it will, it will dehydrate you the second you,
Starting point is 01:34:27 The second you make visual contact with it. It is such a sodium rich fucking meat composite, whatever the fuck it is. What even is it? Like I guess it's pork. I thought it was spiced ham, right? That's what it is. Yeah, I'm assuming that's what it is, but it could just be like... You get like a nice thin, like a thinner slice of spam that's like crispy a little bit.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Like that shit's man. I love thin spam. Thin spam's the shit where you make it rigging crispy. All spam is thing. Once you fucking can get along enough, it just shrinks. Well, there's a lot of motherfuckers. There's like, say, like, Hawaiians, they like Spambergs and shit.
Starting point is 01:35:05 And they don't have it all thick and I hated that shit. It would be like a very thick piece. And I'm like, fuck. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. Check out this special moment we did on our show presented by eBay. When I was living in Chicago, I took part in my first ever giant charity sale. And I was able to auction several items. from my personal closet on eBay. They were items that marked huge moments in my life and in my
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Starting point is 01:36:54 it blew my mind because you know me I don't really like mixing a lot of shit but the condiments having ketchup on spam was actually really good which surprised the fuck out of me because I'm usually like I if I have ketchup on something like that that's supposed to be really salty very minimal you know yeah I don't like ketchup but like I'm a mustard person I'm a mustard guy too but but ketchup I don't like either catch him and mustard if you mix you together like perfectly it tastes amazing. Like it's like a good, it kind of,
Starting point is 01:37:25 they cancel each other out, the sweet and the, that really vinegary, I don't know, it's actually really good together when it's mixed, balanced well, I should say.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I hate, I hate, I hate sauces. I only like mayonnaise because it makes a sandwich less dry, but I don't even like the way it tastes really like.
Starting point is 01:37:42 What are you doing? It's this bad habit. But, mannays is, I don't like it. Manase just already smells spoiled to me. Like I, I can't stand it.
Starting point is 01:37:53 I've never really smelled mayonnaise unless it's like super like the fucking super oily kind. And I'm just like, ugh. I mean, that's mannays, it's eggs and oil. So it's always super oily. But there's, there's a special, like, extra oily mayonnaise. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's real mayonnaise. I don't know because it's like, I guess I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Anyway. Yeah, go ahead. Whatever. Yeah, grizzly bear. You got a, I don't know. Don't bite into your cheese sticks. That's just weird. Like try, look.
Starting point is 01:38:21 I don't talk to a specialist, but... I don't know if you've just never tried it the other way and just always thought it looked dumb, but like, maybe try it. You know, because I guarantee you it's going to be better than whatever the fuck you've been doing with cheese. It's super satisfying. They also last longer, so... Last longer. Just give yourself a fucking break. Fuck you, Kingston.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Cape shit is not better than Berserk. I don't know what that is. Yeah, some weeb shit. Yeah. What? Cape shit. What? He says, it's this cape shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Always talking about like heroes. Oh, Berserk is amazing, but there are comics better than Berserk. I stand by that. You can't prove me wrong. Eat dick. Eat dick. All right. He wrote and he says,
Starting point is 01:39:05 Hello, black, black coded, and black again. Black coded. I'm not black coded. What does that even mean? That's really confusing. But anyway, this question is geared more towards Sweeney, but the others can hop in if they want. Jesus
Starting point is 01:39:22 fucking Christ Is the Riddler gay or an in cell? The flamboyant costume design makes me think he's in the closet but his overall attitude is that of an in cell. No social skills, inflated ego probably uses outdated statistics.
Starting point is 01:39:38 I don't know. What do you guys think? He's not gay. He's definitely not gay. I think he's... I don't think he's gay. He's fucking retarded probably. He's not gay. He's probably like,
Starting point is 01:39:49 I mean, he's probably autistic. That's not what retarded means, but okay. No, no, no, no, no. That's why I reverted back. I'm taking that back. He's clearly not retarded. He's actually pretty... There's definitely...
Starting point is 01:40:01 He's definitely on the spectrum. I... Fuck. I could agree with that, actually. I could agree with that. Yeah, I mean, I guess somebody who only speaks in riddles... I wouldn't say gay or incal. I think he's just...
Starting point is 01:40:16 He probably fell down a flight of stairs at some point. when he was like super young and it just like knocked something loose. I don't think it, I don't think you could infer anything about his sexuality at all. I don't even think he has one.
Starting point is 01:40:29 I think he might be like asexual. Asexual. Because like he's never, has he ever like, he loves riddles. Yeah, he's fucking he loves. He loves riddles.
Starting point is 01:40:38 He does have time. He's a riddle sexual. There's a time. They care about anything else because there's riddles going on that he needs to fucking solve. He's basically solving shit. They're like,
Starting point is 01:40:47 stop and be like, you know what? Maybe I need to touch a woman. He's like, nah, there's more riddles to be had. He's in love. He's in love with riddles and the riddles never finish. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 01:40:57 That's exactly what it is. God bless him, man. I mean, yeah, man. Fucking catwoman, like, came up in front of him undressed and, like, bent over and said, hey, you want a piece? And he was like, and just responded with the riddle about her pussy. He was like, there's two lips. Two lips I see.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Two lips, but how can it be three? He's just like, what the fuck? Is he talking about? There can be three. Is that how the riddler speaks? No, I can't do riddles on the top of my head. No, the voice. The voice.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I like it, though. One fish, two, flesh, red and bluefish. How is it possible that you suck so much dick? They don't, riddles don't have to rhyme, do they? No, they don't have to. No, but it's better when they do. It's always cool. It's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:47 You're right. They are better when they rhyme. It's more sauce when it runs That sucks Jesus Christ John McCann the Irish man who died three times To absolute bullshit encounters Of the curse of Strand wrote in
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Starting point is 01:42:13 This is something I've been wondering For a while But what are your opinions on the ongoing V-tuber craze. Person and I think it's a pretty good way for creators to hide their identity while still having a face associated with their channel. It can also be a fun gimmick. I didn't even realize this was happening until like I think this year, literally.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Like the whole V-tuber thing where it's like some Hatsunei-Miku like hologram thing that's like motion tracked to somebody's webcam or something. Yeah. Found out about it because of a Pokeyane or something. She did it. Oh, really? People got pissed off that she did it. Hmm
Starting point is 01:42:49 Oh that's weird She's like she's dipping into Their community Like the V-tubers It's its own community apparently And they're like gatekeeping and shit You know Yeah
Starting point is 01:42:59 That's kind of wild There's so many communities On the internet man That it's like inconceivable That you would have ever heard of all of them Like it's so Every couple weeks I feel like I've like oh
Starting point is 01:43:10 Like that Oh my god What's that person The fucking The story time person Who got in trouble like kind of recently. She's like a goth chick, I think.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Oh my God. Sweeney knows because... She got in trouble? No, I don't. Smokey was like talking about it like, oh my God, it's like fucking... I don't pay attention when she speaks about like... I don't care about YouTube personalities. I've never cared about...
Starting point is 01:43:33 I care about content. That's it. I can't... Like, even the V-Tuber thing we were talking about right now, I don't give a fuck. Like if you're... Like, usually if someone's in front of a camera and they're not informing me about something
Starting point is 01:43:45 that I think it's pretty cool, I don't care about what they're saying, you know, like, I just don't give a shit. I care about, like, I watch lore videos, and then, like, some time now in an anime compilation or, like, sudden like that. Like, I don't care about, like, this YouTuber posted a video. I care about the content they make, not so much their personality. Creep show art is what I'm thinking of. I had to rack my brain.
Starting point is 01:44:09 But it was like a whole thing. She's not story time. She did all that bullshit drama and shit. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. I think she used to do story time, though, and then she, like, She delved into electronic, whatever. Like, the point is, like, these are communities.
Starting point is 01:44:20 These are people. It's like when Dream showed up out of nowhere. And I'm like, who the fuck is this? Like, why does this person have, like... But the fact is? Why does this person have millions of views? I've never heard of them before today. There was somebody else.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Corpse was that way, too, where it's like, who the fuck is this guy? It's cold shit, dude. Like, who is this? Turns out there's a whole... I don't know what he does still. No, you know, well, he just makes music, but he used to do, like, scary, like, creepypasta videos or he would like narrate and stuff. And like, that's a whole community. Like, there's just people listening to people read creepyposes with like scary voices.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And it's like, that's a community, dude. What the fuck is going on? Like, I always hated the premise of communities because I think like it's inherently very high school and very clicky. Like, uh, there are obviously like ways to delineate groups of people. Like there's like, obviously an animation community. Obviously, There is a commentary community. Obviously, these things exist. But the importance that people place on them, specifically, bothers the shit out of me. Because I talk to people from all over the place.
Starting point is 01:45:26 And to me, that's my community. It's just the people that I interact with people like Lyle, who does his own thing. Or people like Zach, who's an animator, or people like fucking... Even just be... Like Kidikaris, who does, like, video game stuff over in the UK. It's just like this weird. I'm be honest. What?
Starting point is 01:45:47 I just, I just, I, I couldn't. And, you know, I don't want to say this. I don't mean it 100%, but I don't really fucking care about any. I don't care to know any of you people. Like, like, what I mean is, you know, there's so, there's so many dope people that I've, like, been acquainted with and stuff. Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose. Check out the best of a moment we did, presented by eBay. Music has always been one of my teachers. There was a vinyl record I used to play during a quiet, very formative season of my life. Late nights, no distractions, just me, the music and my thoughts.
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Starting point is 01:48:16 and I can't do that thing like back in the day where I had fucking 20, 30 friends and shit I could keep it up with everybody and stuff so I will wave and say hi to a bunch of different people whatever click they're in or whatever they're doing musicians, whatever, cool
Starting point is 01:48:32 but like if it's to the point where it's like hey let's meet up or something I'm like get fucked I just like look it like you're old enough to don't you have your group of friends, I don't fucking want to dip my toes and all this shit. I don't, like, it's, it's so overwhelming to me. It's so overwhelming to me. And it's no offense to anybody. It's super hard to, um, like me and Chris have been friends for like almost 10 years now, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:56 like we're longstanding friends and we've had our other friends for fucking years. And I try my hardest to stay so, like dating my girlfriend, my girlfriend has a very big family and her family, they are friends with each other. Like they are actually close and they're, like, like they're good with each other and for a while I hated because when I'd have to go to her family get-togethers I would have to befriend her family members and I'm like I don't got time for more friends I just don't have time you know but like in even in the community of like YouTube oh that's like that like I've become cool I've become pretty cool with Jonathan I've become cool with like meet Canyon I've become cool with Lao like I I instinctively am very social
Starting point is 01:49:41 and I do a lot of shit so like I do end up meeting a lot of people so I'm always spread thin and at this moment so I just don't want to talk to anybody because how many people I could potentially speak to that I get overwhelmed
Starting point is 01:49:56 and I'm like you know what I'm just going to disappear for today and not respond to anyone that messages me yeah I like all those people and and it's all the people that have been named job like everybody's cool and stuff like you know I just
Starting point is 01:50:09 like what I said before we started the podcast, I reassure my grandmother that I'm like, I, it's no offense. I don't call anybody. I know you want me to call more. It sounds awful me to even say this on the podcast, but I just, I don't call anybody. And it's not, it's not, and it has nothing to do with anybody. I just, I'm not that person, you know, and so. Yeah, I know you mean. Yeah. Like, I don't, I don't call back home as much as I probably should, but it's like, I just have so much bandwidth, man. Like, especially with people who are far away, you know, like for real. Like, like, there are people who are in my immediate vicinity that I will respond to, who I will talk to.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Like, if you're, like, if, like, Mick, like, text me today, I'm going to text him back because he's, like, around the corner, you know? And that just seems like a more, I don't know, immediately. The word relevant is, like, a bad word to use on the internet because it's, like, carries a lot of, like, weird shit. But I just mean for real, like, is it... I'll see my, like, niece and my aunt when I come home, you know, or, like, when I go back for Christmas or, like, any number of... There are any... there are millions of scenarios where I'll see them again and I'll talk to them again. And, like, that conversation will be meaningful because I'll be there and be present. But I have people around me, you know, who are just more immediate to my current situation that I'm going to...
Starting point is 01:51:38 spend a little bit more time on, you know? Just, I don't know. Like, I have friends in fucking Texas that, like, I barely talk to, but like when I'm in Texas, I'll talk to them and that's it. You know, it's fine. It's not a big deal. I talk to make sense. People, just need to, I don't know, like, because I know what you're saying where it's like, there's this weird, like, idea that, like, if you don't call every, like, 10, every 10 minutes, or like, oh, you didn't text me today. Do you really care? It's like, yeah, I do, but I'm like, I'm busy. I'm like, I'm tired.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Like, I've tired. Like, usually, like, by the end of the day, I've talked to, like, 10 people, like, several conversations, you know? Ones that are, like, probably still happening. So, like, the idea of, like, cracking up my phone again at the end of the day to, like, talk to people who are, like, across the country. It's just like, I don't know. Maybe that sounds shitty, but, like, I don't know how it's to be honest about it. It's just genuinely how I feel about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Like, I check up on all my, like, all of my closest, closest friends, I check up on them, like, one. once a week. Yeah. Like I check up on like my, like even my friends that are outside of the state. Like my best friends, my two of my two of my closest friends. I talk to them every week. I talk to my grandmother every, I try. I talk to my grandmother every single week, you know.
Starting point is 01:52:52 And then there are other people. And then there's like my friend group from where I used to work at Starbucks. I talk to them like every day because that's just like an interground firm because like one of the guys is dating my girlfriend's cousin and he's also one of my good friends. And we send them to the memes and bullshit. So we all every day we conversate and we interact. But even for that, that's a lot of interacting I do. So yeah, it sounds like way too much.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Sounds like way too much. So I got to pace myself. So to answer your question, I don't think we care that much about the Vichuber gimmick. I really don't think we do. Like it's fine. It's its own thing. You know, actually, like, I didn't interview with somebody who had that format. And I was like, oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Like, I'd never seen that before, really. So, you know, it's a thing. I'm not, like, offended or bothered by it. I think it's neat that people are fun. Can you show V pussy on YouTube or no? Is that like... Probably not.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Okay. Although if you upload it and, you know... Educational purpose. Yeah. This is the pussy of a virtual person. For educational purposes. Not a bad idea. Let's try it up.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Tom Boy Outback manager wrote in. Said, I got a question for Tom and Derek but Chris's, Chris, feel free to add it. I can't add anything to this. I finally listened to Pimp a Butterfly. and I honestly think it's a weaker album compared to Good Kid Mad City My question is what is the argument for that being better than good kid Matt City? This nigga just said I can't believe
Starting point is 01:54:19 Look it Put your headphones right Hold on hold on Look I don't know I look at I understand I understand what this person's saying I do because this person look there's certain types of people There's people who like hip hop as
Starting point is 01:54:36 music and then there's people who like conscious hip hop they want to hear some real shit. That's not most people. So most people think Good Kid Matt City is a better album because there's way more bangers on it.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Like fucking, you know, uh, fucking, uh, swimming pools, fucking that song with Dr. Dre, the weed one. I always forget just all of the just all of the fucking, you know, um, bitch don't kill my vibe. Like all of that stuff, the back. seat freestyle, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:55:08 There's so many like just like, oh, these are all bops, right? Now, as far as the pimple butterfly, where's the bangers? Where's the bops? You know what I'm saying? To those people, you have to understand where I'm coming from and where I'm assuming this person's coming from. I was shaking. I didn't even know I was shaking my head.
Starting point is 01:55:26 I didn't know I'm shaking my head. Because I just looking at my face. You have to look at it at that way, objectively, which I feel like this is the reason why this person's like, oh, I think these songs, they feel better to me. They make me move better. They're they, there's something, you know, they're bangers. Good Kid Mad City, like say, all rights is probably the closest thing that you can get to like a
Starting point is 01:55:52 banger or something. It's not, that album is just completely a concept album. And it's a great fucking album. But if you don't like shit like that, I can totally understand why you would be like, oh, this is weak. I get it. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I get where that person could come from.
Starting point is 01:56:09 All right. So, first of all, everyone has different opinions. And that is fundamentally what it is. You don't like it better. Sure, whatever. You know, I'm trying not to be as rude as possible because I'm Sweeney the kind. So I have to make sure I stay relatively respectful when I say this. Sure.
Starting point is 01:56:31 But good kid mad city. conceptually is not very different like strictly concept wise just that one is about the beginning stage and then the other one is about the growth through expiration butterfly is a much more mature
Starting point is 01:56:52 album than Good Kid Mad City is it's better beats better better rapping this overall a better album now I will admit that one has more radio hits but that's because of the context of the songs. You're not going to put Moro Man on a fucking radio station. You just can't.
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Starting point is 01:59:14 because if you were going to go the angle like, oh, people like songs that are more make you move, I would say Section 80 would be where you would go. Because Section 80 is more of a vibe album than Good Kidding. Well, that's not going to make you move. That's like you can't play that shit in the club. you can play you can play rigormorius in the club you can play uh what you call it poetic justice
Starting point is 01:59:32 you can play yeah we're talking about that's good kid my city poetic justice it's not section 80 no the poetic justice with with with drake yeah that's yeah i just i just think that there's pieces there's set pieces in your life because i listen to good kid i'll be real i listen a good kid when it first came out and i listen to damn when it's not i listen to good kids to damn listen to all in front and first coming out and then going back to it because I didn't like Butterfly actually.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Once upon a time I did not like that album. I listened to it again after I grew up and experienced similar to what he experienced. And I was like, oh shit, this album's way better than I once thought it was. Look, I, I've, but it's, look, this is, this is, this is, this is where I'm at. This is, this is where I'm at with it. I, as I got older, I cared less about conscious hip hop and, and, and things that have deeper meanings to it. I care. I barely listen to bad religion anymore. Dead Kennedies. Anything that has like a lot of political overtones to it or anything. I kind of just, I listen to it less
Starting point is 02:00:39 because I kind of like, I'm very jaded, I guess. I think I'm just kind of like, whatever. And so the music still sounds good to me, but like I kind of barely give a fuck about that stuff right now. And I think that's why to Pippa Butterfly, even though I recognize I'm like, this album is fucking dope. The flow, the beats, everything, the jazziness, the everything. It's good. But good Kim Massey. When I just remember, I have fond memories of riding my bike nine miles to work and just listening to it front and back and being like, it just brings back. There's these, these, you know, these bops, as they say, right? When I'm listening to the swimming pool, when I'm listening to these beats, I'm like, this shit. Um, the, I, what is it? The, the,
Starting point is 02:01:20 the, um, the, damn it, the women, weed and weather, the fucking that song, the recipe. Oh, what you call on your recipe? Yeah, like, those fuck, those beats and shit, like, when I'm hearing this stuff, I'm like, God damn, this is so fun. And that's the thing. I think it's as good, to Pimp a Butterfly, right, is missing fun from it.
Starting point is 02:01:39 And I feel like that's why I'm assuming that's what this person's looking for. Because if he's like, oh, I'm a underground hip hop head, then he'd be out of his fucking mind. You know what I mean? I wouldn't even say underground hip hop head. Like, for me, I don't solely, but I listen to a lot. lot of conscious hip hop like when I say hip
Starting point is 02:01:57 I was the most conscious pop and then I go into like trap every now and then because of the fact that like you know it it's the beats just sound good you know if I'm playing like some fucking some destiny I'm trying to just fucking zone out and kill people have a beat that's going like going off and I listen to that
Starting point is 02:02:13 you know every now and then but for me it's more I I care about substance a lot when I listen to music particularly because like if if I'm listening to some If I'm listening to someone make music, you gotta either be really good at the music, or you gotta be telling me something I gotta be learning from the music, you know?
Starting point is 02:02:32 I, I just, I don't know. Can you, but what happens, I can't be fucked anymore. What happens if you, you could only learn something once, you know? That's true, but that, but that lesson can still resonate no matter what. I guess. I'm just, I just mean like, does it, is it offering you anything new after you've learned something from a song already to hear it for like the 50th time. Like does it matter that it's does it matter that it taught you something once over? It does because the memory of me being
Starting point is 02:03:04 taught it is what like gives me the attachment to it. I guess. Because like for instance, I listen to Mortal Man. I love that song so much. I think it's like one of the, I think that's one of Kendrick Lamar's best songs ever made, period. Or even Untitled Five is another good song. I love so much. I love those two songs a lot. And the lessons that they teach you in those songs are something that like are one always prevalent and two they are the way they are taught
Starting point is 02:03:32 you are so beautiful. Yeah. That's what I'm like oh I get why I love this so much but it's your thing. Yeah that's that's I love good kid as well. I actually like that album a lot. I don't listen to it as much I listen to the other what you call the other projects. I got us in a damn more to
Starting point is 02:03:49 even good kid. Oh wow. Wow Okay Because I think Because I think when it comes to like Okay Because I think Damn is a better album played backwards
Starting point is 02:03:59 Like if you get the specialition It goes reverse So it goes from Duckworth All the way down So I think Yeah I can't be See I can't be fucked
Starting point is 02:04:06 I just don't And maybe it's just where I'm at My life right now Maybe I'll feel different Like five years or something But all that shit man Like all that deep shit Like I just
Starting point is 02:04:17 I don't Like I appreciate it But at the same time It's not what I'm for right now. It's like, it's like I can appreciate sometimes top 40 stuff where it's just complete garbage and they're they're just playing. It's just music being played. Like, I don't want to be taught. I just want to listen to some shit that sounds good right now. I feel like I'm in that part where I'm that, I'm in that stage of my life right now where to Pimp a Butterfly,
Starting point is 02:04:42 I haven't listened to it in years because like it's like if, if, you know, if it comes on or something, I'm like, oh shit. But like, I mean, I have. some of Kendrick shit on like my hip-hop playlist on Spotify, but nothing from like Butterfly, though, you know, which is, and it's not, it's not a knock on it. It's just like, it's like a weird thing. Like it's, I'm kind of the, like, say, when I was thinking about the best albums of Lincoln Park front to back. I was trying to, I was putting that together. And if you ask anybody, what's their best album? They're probably going to say hybrid theory, their first one. But really, that's not even close to being true
Starting point is 02:05:20 because it's one of those things where it's like to Pimp a Butterfly and I feel it's the same way. That's like as far as artistically, it's way better than Good Kid Mad City. Obviously. And I feel like Lincoln Park is the same way where they have other albums
Starting point is 02:05:34 like their sophomore one, Meteora, which is actually a way better album than hybrid theory. But people would be like, nah, fucking hybrid theory because the way that it makes them feel and shit. And so I totally understand what you're saying, man. Yeah. As long as it's, as long as you listen to it and you can respect, it is a great album.
Starting point is 02:05:53 If you can't reflect it's a great album, then you're fucking stupid. Weak is a bad word to use. That's probably what really set you off because he said it was like weaker. It's stupid. You're stupid for that, right? As an album, it's the opposite of not, it's absolutely not a weak album. It's a much heavier album than Good Kid. But, you know, as long as it's not Drake or some shit, then I'm fine.
Starting point is 02:06:16 Even though I do like Drake, I'll admit that. Drake should never, Jake is a terrible rapper. I'm sorry, I can't get over it. I think he's a great thing. He's not a good rapper. I like him.
Starting point is 02:06:24 He was a good rapper once. I think when he came out with that fucking mixtape or whatever, the Utah fucking Best song or whatever, I thought that was a good mix. But then he just, I don't know, he just got shittier and lazier. I think he seems great, man.
Starting point is 02:06:36 That fucking, that Coke Miami song, the 80s song, just go, uh, what is it? Uh, we're coming home or whatever.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Hold on, we're coming home. I think he should go that route. I think he should compete with fucking the weekend. I think he's... I mean, he can't... Drake is not a great singer. I think he's not a great singer.
Starting point is 02:06:53 He's not a great vocalist. He's not a great vocalist. Dude, when you hear that song, you know, like, just hold on, or going home, like, whatever this... That song, I think that's his lane. I really do. I think that's his fucking lane.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Drizzy, Drichis makes really good dance pop music. Kind of like, like, he makes, like, kind of dance-haw-esque music. I don't know. And it's good. I like Drake for what he makes music for. I think so much should fucking shoot his legs, like in fucking Degrassie or whatever.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Oh, my God. Jesus, Christ. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy getting shot, bro. I don't, uh... He got shocked. The black kid got shot for no reason, last name walking, first name never. That shit was dope, dude.
Starting point is 02:07:28 God, that's so... He got shot, though. I don't know anything about any of this, so I'll think... I'll take... I'll take all your guys's words. You know, Degrassi, though, right? You know Degrassi. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:37 I mean, I never saw it, but... Dude, you... You got to see that in-cell shooting him, dude. It's hilarious. Bro, he got shot for no... The black kid got shot for no reason, bro. I was like, what the fuck. He was nice to that nigga, too.
Starting point is 02:07:48 He was nice to him. He was. And he fought his friend. He fought his friend for picking on him. And then he shot him. And I was like, what? It's so, I got to, I was never. I was never into.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Those Canadian niggas hate black people, bro. I was never. It's crazy. You never got into it? Yeah, I just never got into those shows, man. Like the, the fucking like, oh, you know what it reminded me of? You know, um. You know the Amanda show, how they had those Moody's Point sections?
Starting point is 02:08:21 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it was just like this part of the show that was like meant to be like a... Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose. Check out the best of a moment we did, presented by eBay. Music has always been one of my teachers. There was a vinyl record I used to play during a quiet, very formative season of my life. Late nights, no distractions, just me, the music and my thoughts. Over time, life changed, schedules filled up, and somewhere along the way, that record disappeared.
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Starting point is 02:10:08 Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDec or something. Celtic Bank. On deck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amount subject to lender approval. Like, making fun of, like, serious kind of, like, shows about, like, drama for kids. That's, like, DeGrosse and other shows like that always felt like that, but unironically. And I could never, I could never do it. I was just like, this is so shit. Like, why would I watch this when I could be watching fucking Courage the Cowardly Dog terrify me? You know? It's just far That was interesting. There was a marathon.
Starting point is 02:10:42 That's the only reason why I watched it, because I never saw it before. But I guess a new season was about to come out. And then I'd turn on the TV and happen to be on. And I fucking watched like all of it. And then all of a sudden. From 13 to, from like 12 to maybe like 17, I was watching the grassy like consistently. Oh, you were actually. Like I was watching like, I would like go on free on demand.
Starting point is 02:11:04 I would have the three episodes on demand. And I would watch that shit. And I was consuming just so much. Degrassi. And then I would go to school with a bunch of fucking ghetto ass thug like kids that sold drugs. Kids that like brought guns to school
Starting point is 02:11:21 or he would talk about Degrassi. I was just like, yo, what is life? Jimmy's situation is the funniest in the show, bro. And Jimmy is a character. He's the honorable hero that gets fucked over a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:38 He does one. Maybe one bad thing throughout the series. Like, actually, maybe one. I just remember this chick's all trying to fuck him and stuff and his dick don't work because, you know, he's all paralyzed. Ashley, actually tried to fuck him and his dick couldn't work. Hey, dick, dig. What's a real story?
Starting point is 02:11:57 Yes. And then what you call it? Then he started rapping. And she was like, they really care about my rap, my music. And they don't care about your fucking singing, Ashley. You're bad at it. They care about my rapping. And then she was like, your dick doesn't work.
Starting point is 02:12:13 And I was like, what the fuck. That's so fucking crazy, man. What a weird. Yo, I can't believe that was. I love that show. I can't believe in the show. Some fucking white boy that worked out like at a shop. Spinner.
Starting point is 02:12:26 His best friend, his best friend, the reason why Jimmy got shot got ball cancer. I love that you know all of a character. He knows all the characters. Of course he does. And then, and then. and the car Stop spoiling it I haven't seen it
Starting point is 02:12:45 Yeah Spinner was dating the sister Spinner was dating the sister Of the guy That sold the gun To the kid that shot Jimmy bro Kyle cut this whole fucking Degroasi part out
Starting point is 02:12:57 I hate everything about this Crazy bro Don't you dare Our audience needs to know about this shit Leave it Let them know this All right We're done with Neil deGrashtizen
Starting point is 02:13:06 Let's go All right Well last one from Doc Ocks Croxox. He says, Greetings, Glasses That Can Burn Ants, Supernova of Hot Takes, and European pipe layer. Love the show and it's kept me entertained a great
Starting point is 02:13:19 many long drives. Being in medical school now, sometimes your blistering medical takes make me smell burning toast. So my question to you, what is the most blisteringly false thing you've heard someone say about something you're very knowledgeable about? Thanks again
Starting point is 02:13:34 for all the laughs and keeping the last year and a half bearable. Thank you, my guy. I assume you get annoyed whenever people talk about Dungeons and Dragons and they don't know what they're talking about. Oh, yeah. It burns in my core. Or people talk about comic.
Starting point is 02:13:51 When people talk about Spider-Man, they don't know what they're talking about. That bothers me a lot because a lot of people say dumb shit about Spider-Man. That bother makes me angry. It makes me really mad. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, but sometimes you're wrong. But that's because I know so much, I mean, I know a lot about the character. I know a lot about the character fundamentally.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Like, I know that this about Spider-Man and this about Spider-Man, this about Spider-Man. When it comes to, like, his reception or why he's held on so long, it's like, all right, I guess. Do you know how big as dick is? Yeah, seven. Now I'm kidding. Just seven. Not inches. Just seven.
Starting point is 02:14:30 It's... Or people talk about hip-hop. Because a lot of people, I, unfortunately, I lived in a white area, and a lot of white. kids, they always spout dumb shit about hip hop to me. And I'm like, all right, dude. It's all about drug dealing and killing women and
Starting point is 02:14:48 hitting women and bitches. And I'm like, so is rock. So is rock. So is disco. I mean, you want to. So is the most classic rock. I got to say like, hip hop, it got such a raw deal because of its popularity because when you think
Starting point is 02:15:04 about, say, death metal, for example, where it's just, so much of it is, just think of cannibal corpse. I don't need to say anything more, right? So you just think of that. And then it's like, oh, you know, let's compare the two. It's got a, no contest. It got hurt because of the demographic that made it.
Starting point is 02:15:24 And then obviously the time it was made. So like, people that do, it gets me really mad. People are like, Eminem's the greatest rapper of all time. And I'm like, sure, dude, whatever you say. Yeah. Whatever, whatever he say. He's up there. Let's be real.
Starting point is 02:15:39 He's up there. I think Eminem is not even top 20, bro. He's a great rapper. That is absurd. That is kind of absurd. That is absurd. It's absurd. No, it's,
Starting point is 02:15:47 no, it is absurd. Because fucking, because the greatest rappers would fucking disagree with you. I can list rappers right now that I know are better than Eminem. The greatest rappers alive would disagree with you. They would put him in top fucking five.
Starting point is 02:16:03 Who's one of the greatest rappers alive right now? I would say the greatest rappers alive, air quotes that people say are the great rappers alive. are Jay-Z. People say Drake is one of the greatest rappers alive. No, that's stupid. That's not. That's no. That's not. No, no, Derek. That's not real. That's not real.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Derek, we disagree. Derek, we disagree. That's not fucking real, dude. People say that. No, Derek. They don't. That's like that doesn't matter. It's like the Chris Angel thing. So skip it. Why even bring it up? Because that doesn't matter. That's irrelevant.
Starting point is 02:16:30 So they say, I would say the best rappers live right now or Kanye. I would say, I would say. Mario Judah. Yeah. And what's Kendrick Lamar's who thinks he's... Who does Kendrick Lamar thinks the goat? Kendrick does not think he's the goat, bro.
Starting point is 02:16:48 You know what he thinks the goat is? Killer Mike. He thinks Killer Mike is the greatest rapper of all time, bro. All right, hold on. He's just being a contrarian. That's stupid. He's not being a contrarian. Killer Mike is an amazing rapper, bro.
Starting point is 02:17:00 He's not the greatest. That's fucking stupid. Killer Mike is a monster, bro. I like Killer Mike. I like Killer Mike a lot. He thinks Killer Mike, Jay, maybe Pac. Dude, he would put him up there. I think it's absurd to say he's not in the top 20.
Starting point is 02:17:15 I think he's at the very least in the top 20. That is baffoing. I put him in top 20. I put him like 15. No cap. I would put him there. I would put him in between like around like 15 and 10 probably. Like somewhere in there.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Okay. Here's the thing though. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. On technical skill alone, he has to be there in the top 20. Like without a doubt. On technical skill, yes.
Starting point is 02:17:37 He's in the, look, he's definitely. Look, he's in that fucking top ten, all right? When the people, the people, the best rappers alive always reference him being there. It's undeniable. And look, I just, all I put in was Kendrick Lamar Eminem influence. I just typed that in Google. Marshall Madden's LP changed his fucking life. Would he not be in the top?
Starting point is 02:17:59 So if that album changed his life, bitch, would that not be in, would he not be in the top? You're being ignorant as fuck right now. I'm not being ignorant right now, bro. you are. He's been interviewed and he's like, oh, my,
Starting point is 02:18:11 I give my top rappers. Everybody respects Eminem because Eminem technically is one of technically with wordplay-wise. He's one of the best rappers. But he's not, you're dumb ass that I wouldn't put him in top 20.
Starting point is 02:18:23 That's so fucking stupid. I would not. That is so stupid. I would say lyrically, I would say lyricically. When it comes to lyrics, the things he says, he's probably lyrically top five.
Starting point is 02:18:34 When it comes to a rapper overall, when it comes to projects, When it comes to the songs they make. How do you put up with the shit? How do you put up with the shit? I don't understand this. You're not even letting me, you're not even letting me diversify why I'm saying that. You, I am telling you right now, go look up your top 10 best rappers, consensual, whatever you want to say, like with a consensus.
Starting point is 02:18:56 And you ask them who are their influences. Eminem is always fucking in there. How is he not in the fucking top 10? It depends on where you're asking, dude. I'm telling you. Because different groups. Bro, you're making me heated. This is my thing again.
Starting point is 02:19:12 This is it. This is my thing again. This is it. This is coming down to your fucking subjective opinion and you're not being fucking objective about it. I'm not being subjective. It depends on where you come. If you ask a New York rapper, who are your influences? Who are your biggest influence?
Starting point is 02:19:26 They're going to run off Naz. They're going to run off Eric B and Rakim. Yeah, Nas is in there. They're going to give off people like. Rock Kim is not in there. Hey, it's Jay Shetty from On Purpose. Check out the best of a moment we did, presented by eBay. I'd never owned a vintage camera before.
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Starting point is 02:21:28 The people who, when we say Jay-Z, when we say Kendrick Lamar, the people that are fucking alive right now, like this person is on top of their game, Eminem is always there when you ask them. Go look it up yourself. I would say M is one of the greats, but I would not give him top 20. I would not even give him top 20. But see, but why I say your opinion is invalid
Starting point is 02:21:48 is because the people who are at the top of their game, who people always cite as the greatest rappers, always cite Eminem as one of the greats. Like always, they always do it. I say go look it up yourself, just confirm what I'm telling you and show you that, oh, he deserves to. be in the top 10 at the very least.
Starting point is 02:22:07 That's good for him, bro. Give me good projects, bro. Give me products that aren't relapsed, and I'll respect that. I'll respect that opinion. Oh, my God, dude. You mean he's not relapse recovery, and I respect that opinion. We're not talking about fucking his shit albums, all right? Dude, come on.
Starting point is 02:22:23 He has, you mean all maybe eight of them, and maybe two are good? Okay, and fucking, and there's plenty of out. Okay. When people say, like, Jay Z's the best of all time and stuff like that, and people, nobody's fucking with any of his last no one's fucking with American gangster nobody's fucking with any of his albums I came out recently
Starting point is 02:22:41 I didn't like the American gangster I didn't love it too much as I was little nobody like that shit but Jay Z has a lot of pretty good albums I can't fucking talk to this guy he does you telling me the blueprint one two and three are not good I didn't say that
Starting point is 02:22:53 I did not say that I clearly didn't say that shit that's true but those are most of his albums yeah but they're not fucking they're not like ask somebody ask somebody name five songs from those albums or whatever.
Starting point is 02:23:08 They're not going to fucking know. That's crazy. But that's true. I agree with you. But that's what I'm saying like Eminem, name from the first three albums, Marshall M&M LP, Marshall Mathers,
Starting point is 02:23:22 and fucking encore or whatever. And you tell them to name fucking like five songs. They'll do it. They'll fucking do it. I don't think a lot of people will do it. But I think they're more likely to name Amis than ARJ. So I'll give you with that. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 02:23:33 Which kind of just like how, but whatever, whatever, man. That's your opinion. That's fine. Look, everybody, look, look, there's plenty of great artists with shit albums, you know. Like, that's just like Queen has, Queen has bad albums. Like, you know, it's like, it's not. That's true. It's not that's rare. It's hard not to.
Starting point is 02:23:50 And that always weirds me out, though. Because I'm like, don't you hear that shit? Like, don't you listen to this? It's the mindset they got to be in. It's like, when you draw a picture, you're like, this is a great picture. And you look at it like a week later and this is a fucking terrible picture. It's why I put this picture up. It is weird to me that somebody like Eminem can write Kill You and then like go on to make relapse and recover like that shit is so weird to me
Starting point is 02:24:13 Like what was the one bro? You wrote Kill You. What was the one before Kamakazi? The one that everyone universally hated? Revival, revival. I think it was relapse. No revival. There you.
Starting point is 02:24:23 That's the other fucking one. Yeah, revival like that was ours. Fucking hate. The revival was just, it was literally just, oh man. It was, he just got every. famous chick to sing the hooks and then he just just I don't know what happened I can't it did you didn't live my life you didn't live my life
Starting point is 02:24:43 around a bunch of fucking people saying those albums are good and I'm like bro what the fuck are you talking about? I was seething with anger during those I was like bro these are not good albums well see like it's kind of like in in the U.S. in mixed martial arts there's the people the fans called the casuals right? Their opinions don't matter because they don't like actually watch so they don't really about a lot of stuff
Starting point is 02:25:09 they don't know what the fuck's going on and I feel like that's the thing if somebody says oh revival is a good album I'm like okay immediately I'm just like all right they're not they're it does it's it's that opinion is so bad
Starting point is 02:25:22 that it's not even worth getting angry over because it's just it's not even in the ballpark of being reality that's how I feel that's just how I feel my only take about M I think Eminem is a fantastic wordsmith. I think Eminem has
Starting point is 02:25:36 way, way more bad albums than good albums. Like to wait, insane degree. That's what I think it is. I think he's one of the best freestyle rappers of all time. Oh, that's without a doubt. He might be the best. I put him with like Red Man and Andre 3,000.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Like those are like the three greatest. There's some, there's a lot of people. There's actually, I mean, there's a lot of people. I really think underground rappers have that shit. that they really it kind of when it when it comes to like a freestyle and shit like there's like that fucking dude idea there's some people that or that should be on the list that are so like black type caliber like that's like a insanely good freestyle rapper or like um you know like there there are a ton of people there but i would say m&m as a battle rapper like don't battle m&m
Starting point is 02:26:25 as a bad idea he's going to hurt your feelings and you're probably going to think about doing a big sleep to yourself because if we haven't seen 8 Mile that poor dude he didn't see him afterwards Anthony Mackey I think he's definitely up there I think I'm not like big in the audience think
Starting point is 02:26:43 What is the audience think? Yeah I'm curious what the audience would think I actually It's your fans They don't listen to rap they're gonna say dumb shit They're gonna say stupid shit I think Eminem's fantastic I really like It's gonna stand there and watch you burn
Starting point is 02:26:57 And it's like bro whatever Hey, Kili is great, man Which I'm a kill you A fantastic song I think Stan's a great time That might be my favorite Eminem song of all time is Stan Stan's a really good song Stan is a really good song from him
Starting point is 02:27:11 Which is, it's not even me trying to be a contrarian But his song Infinite off of his EP Like it was before fucking he got The Eminem LP or whatever When that shit came out Like he had his infinite fucking EP It's just Is that something about?
Starting point is 02:27:28 90s? That was, yeah, that was fucking probably 95 or something. Is that like the is that the one with like biter phobia on it and stuff like that? Well, let me, because I love that one.
Starting point is 02:27:39 That's like a really ancient one. That one has like record scratches and shit. It feels like a fucking Tony Hawk game. Like something that would be in that shit, but I've listened to all, I've listened to most of his LPs. This is all his major studio albums.
Starting point is 02:27:54 And God fucking damn it, bro. Eminem gets me so upset. Because it's freestyle. Just go in a booth and freestyle, and you can make an amazing album. Just why are they all so bad? Well, look, to me, this is the obvious answer. In my opinion, he just got tired of being edgy. And that's what he was the best at.
Starting point is 02:28:15 He was so good at his, of just being a complete piece of shit. Like the first, especially the first two albums, they're so good. And he's just very... They're very... They're very... I admit that. I mean, he has that fucking album that's... song, I think it's like, ah, the, it's the Kim one. It's the, not even kill you. It's the song. It's
Starting point is 02:28:35 towards the end of the album, probably track 17 or something, where he's killing Kim, you know, his ex-wife or whatever. It's just him killing her. Yeah. It's awful. It's so awful. I think the M&M show is a good. I think people don't like that album very much. I love the M&M show personally. What's on the M&M show? I think that's one of my favorite ones. It's the most famous. It's the most famous song on that album. Which one? Clapsed. So I collapsed, Eminem Show. Oh, the Eminem Show.
Starting point is 02:29:01 Because that kind of fall off after Encore. White America. That one has White America Business, Soldier. I like this one. I like this one. Business, kind of my closet, Square Dance.
Starting point is 02:29:15 Square Dance is hilarious. I'm sorry. It was fucking ridiculous. Wait, is Eminem show before Encore? Am I getting confused. I think Oncourt is after. And Encore is after? Yeah, Encore's after.
Starting point is 02:29:25 And maybe I think, I can be wrong. No, I think you're right. I think because. Yeah, because I think the encore is an encore of the show, right? That's the idea. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 02:29:35 So I'm just getting my shit mixed up. Anyway, yeah. I will say, like, he hasn't had a good album in, like, a, in an insane amount of time. But to be, but to be fair, like. And dare I say 17 years. I would say the same thing. I would say the same thing kind of about, you know. I would say the same thing about, I mean, obviously before Chester passed away.
Starting point is 02:29:56 Like, I would say the same thing about Lincoln Park. It had been a long time even before that since they had come out with something that was on par with Meteora or or the other one, hybrid theory. Living Things, their 2012 album was actually really good.
Starting point is 02:30:12 I didn't care for that one too much. I heard things about Living Thing. I don't know. I think it's a great album actually. There were some songs every now and again that I would hear. I was like, that's not too bad. That's a pretty good little job.
Starting point is 02:30:24 But like as a coherent, Like, as a compilation of music, like, I think it's generally hard for any band or artist to, like, really nail it in that way. Like, to just have a consistent, like, here's a bunch of music, and it's all good. Like, I love Rising Ends. I have a tattoo of that. That's one of my favorite bands ever. But they've only had one album like that. And that was in, like, 2006.
Starting point is 02:30:50 And not since then have they put out anything that's been even remotely close in as far as. quality goes. But I mean, the same thing with Kanye West for me. I love Kanye West. I don't care anybody says. People who just credit him and I'm like, bro, he's made some of the greatest albums ever.
Starting point is 02:31:05 And other than Kids See Ghost, which was snuck up on me even, he hasn't had a great album since, I'd go as far to say like his last, his 2010 album. Yeah. His 2010, maybe 2012 album. It's the last like great one he made.
Starting point is 02:31:21 And he'll be making one really soon. I hope it's good. If it's good, I'll be, if it's a good, I'll be, if it's a good album, bro? I think he's in a I think he's in a completely different place. I just can't see him making like a good front to back album. I just can't.
Starting point is 02:31:33 But the thing is that I, artists eventually have to learn to concede. I think that's a thing that a lot of artists understand. Like I love my favorite rapper right now is like Joey badass and the group from Grisela like, like
Starting point is 02:31:49 West Side Gone and Benny the Butcher, Conway the Machine. I love all those artists. I like Jay Cole. I even like KDOT, but eventually they have to understand that you got to, you're just not going to be able to make music at the best anymore, you know? Yeah. So respect that. Get on a feature every now and then, you know, jump on something, but you're just not,
Starting point is 02:32:09 you eventually got to pass the torch to other people who are making music, you know? I think you just do movies. You just, just, just fuck, stop doing music, just do movies. Yeah. Just fucking start doing movies. Yeah, just go and just join the Fast and Furious. That would be hilarious, dude. Yes.
Starting point is 02:32:23 If like, dude, no, for real, for real, if Eminem joined, like, the Fasted Furious, that would be hilarious. I would think everybody would love that. I mean, he's in a comic with Punisher, so he's halfway there. We'll see. That's what I think is next thing. He should just be doing, he should just be making, like, video games, like 50 cent blood in the sand or whatever. Like, shit like that. I'm fucking on board, dude.
Starting point is 02:32:44 That'd be so great. Or get rich or die trying. Could you imagine? Yeah. Anyway, holy shit. We should, we should wrap up. We're going a little long, and we got an editor now. We don't want to make it too hard for him.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Sorry, bro. So, thanks again to Kyle, our editor, for putting up with this. Thank you, Kyle Kalinsky. Oh, my gosh. Could you imagine if it was him? We did this exact thing. Last time. All right.
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