The Squeeze - Angourie Rice and Spike Fearn: The Idea of Love

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

In this week's episode, Tay sits down with actors Angourie Rice and Spike Fearn to talk about their new film Finding Emily! They give an inside look at the movie, which follows Owen searching for a woman he barely knows while Emily approaches love from a much more analytical perspective, and share whether they personally lean more toward their characters or the opposite when it comes to romance. Angourie talks about how fun it was to play a character so different from who she is in real life, and Spike opens up about what it was like portraying Owen's unusually soft, sincere, and emotionally open version of masculinity onscreen. They also get into some of the deeper questions the film raises, including whether we are sometimes more attached to our idea of a person than to who they actually are, whether social media makes it easier to genuinely know someone or just gives us more material to build an imagined version of them, and whether love is created by one magical moment or by spending meaningful time together. They also get personal, sharing what rest and self care look like for each of them and how they navigate the emotional letdown that can come after wrapping a film.Watch Finding Emily in theaters beginning August 28th, 2026!Be sure to follow Angourie on https://instagram.com/angourierice/ and Spike on https://instagram.com/spikefearn/!To email us your questions or share your story, you can reach out to [e-mail] sure to rate, review, and follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode! Plus, follow us on all of our socials:The SqueezeInstagram: https://instagram.com/thesqueeze/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@thesqueezepodcastTay LautnerInstagram: https://instagram.com/taylautner/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@mrstaylautnerAmazon Storefront https://urlgeni.us/amazon/FDXj7 Taylor LautnerInstagram: https://instagram.com/taylorlautner/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@taylorlautnerTo learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow https://instagram.com/lemonsbytay/ and visit https://lemonsbytay.comEpisode Sponsors:Find your nearest Ross at RossStores.com.Go to shadyrays.com and use code SQUEEZE for 40% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses.You can find Opill at most major retailers, in-stores and online.Find Primal Kitchen dressings, sauces, and condiments at your local grocery store or on Primalkitchen.com. Primal Kitchen - made for real food.Shop Honest on Amazon, Walmart and Target.Take 10 minutes to get covered today, with life insurance through Ethos. Get your free quote at ETHOS.com/squeeze.Use promo code SQUEEZE for $200 off your purchase at tonal.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It was the whole thing. Angari, Spike, welcome to the squeeze. Thanks so much for having us. Yeah, thank you. If you could describe finding Emily in three words, what would they be? You pick three and I'll pick three. It's a competition. No, no, it's not a competition at all, but I'm just saying that like someone has to

I asked this question one time. Yeah. You got two words and I only got one. Okay, well let's go back and forth until we've got six. We're creating a new game. I'll start. Whitty, so shit, like, that I can't use it. I'm gonna say charming.

Musical. I'm gonna say pure. We'll both say romantic. Romantic. I've never felt worse after a walk, personally. So sometimes all it takes is just get outside and go for a walk. You might not feel better, but you won't feel worse. When walking to the city, I want headphones.

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I'm super excited that I got the opportunity to sit down with Angari Rice and Spike Fern about their new film Finding Emily. In this episode, that give us an inside look at the movie, which follows Owen, searching for a woman he barely knows, while Emily approaches love from a much more analytical perspective. and share whether they personally lean more toward their characters or the opposite when it comes to romance. And Garry talks about how fun it was to play a character so different from who she is in real life. And Spike opens up about what it was like portraying Owens' unusually soft, sincere, and emotionally open version of masculinity on screen.

We also get into some deeper questions. Like whether sometimes we are more attached to an idea around a person than who that person actually is. whether social media makes it easier to genuinely know someone or just gives us more material to build up this imagined version of them. And whether love is created by one magical moment or by spending meaningful time together. They also get personal sharing what rest and self-care look like for them and how they navigate the emotional letdown that can come from after wrapping a film. We had such a fun, lighthearted conversation. It was really cool to kind of dive into these themes of where we're at with, dating and social media and how our generation is really going about that.

So enjoy your time listening. I had the best time talking with them and I hope you guys enjoy. And Gari, Spike, welcome to the squeeze. Thanks so much for having us. Yeah, thank you. Thank you guys. I'm super excited. I'm big fans of you both.

So this is fun. And I love getting to do virtuals too because I do a lot of in person, but I feel like it's nice because I get to just be in sweats at my lower half. And no one can know even though I just told everyone. But I'm excited to chat about the film. And we talk a lot about mental health, self-care. So we're going to kind of get into that today. But since you're not here in the studio, I have this jar.

And we normally start with this game called Citrus Got Real. So I'm going to pull a little piece of paper and read it for you guys. And we can answer it together. Okay. I love that. I love a play on words. Thank you. I can't take credit for that at all.

If your life had a warning label, what would it say? I wish I was quicker and more like. I feel like for me personally, I should come with a label that says like, fragile. Handle with care. That's a great one. Handle with care, I think. I'm not fragile, but handle with care. Yeah.

Is that more like a sensitive thing or because you are like, you'll fall, like you're clumsy? Oh, I was thinking more emotionally. Although, do you know what I have noticed is since getting bangs, my peripheral vision is like cut off. So I keep hitting my head on things. I hit my head last night. And I was like, thank God I have bangs because I was worried I was going to have a bump on my head today. Anyway, that's the point. The point is, growing up, I was a sensitive kid.

And I remember my mom saying to me, like, you know, you're sensitive and that's okay. But you just have to figure out how to deal with that. Wait, I love that. That's so sweet. What about you? I think mine would probably be thinks too much because I'm like, I just can't stop thinking about the question you just asked and I don't have one. So I think it's like, I just say, yeah, just think things for too long.

Takes too long to think. Maybe not think too much, but thoughtful. Thoughtful, there you go. See? See? That's a good friend right there. Yeah, that's a good friend right there, you know. if you make up that you don't know what, someone else will say it for you.

Yeah. There you go. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I feel like mine would be the handle with care and the sense of peripheral vision because I'm eight and a half months pregnant. You can't see my stomach. But there's a big, there's a big belly below this camera.

And the same thing with having your like center of gravity is all off. But I like keep thinking I can like squeeze behind things and like move. the way I would move and there's no. It's like with cats, like, don't their whiskers determine if they can squeeze through a space or not? Have you heard this? Yeah. Like a cat's whiskers brush up against the sides.

They know that they won't be able to fit in or something. Yeah. That's good for them. I'm not a cat. I wish I need, I need some whiskers right around right now. No. I love it. Awesome.

Okay, well, let's talk about the film. I am obsessed with it. I love just like, feel good movies like this, but also ones that are like coming of age movies and just, I feel like anyone can relate to you no matter where you're at in life. But I want to know between the two of you, even in your personal lives, if you lean more towards your characters of being either more of like an analytical perspective or just kind of like a love, I mean, Not love bomb, but just like hopeless, romantic, whimsical type feel.

Which do you lean more towards? I think I'm the second one, you know, I like to, yeah, I'm doing all the rubbing noses and stuff, you know. Yeah, I like to think I'm a romantic, but yeah, maybe yours would say differently. But I think I'm kind of, I love love, you know, and I'm like very, yeah, yeah. Kind of when I start to feel it, I get a little bit like just, yeah, exciting and stuff. Yeah, maybe, you know, I would say the second one. Also didn't really know what you meant by the first one, so just say the second one. No, like how Emily is like analytical and love and more cynical.

Oh, yeah, no, not that. I don't think about it like that. I just, if I enjoy how I feel at the time, I'll just, I'll just go with it. Just go with it. Are you not like that? You like that? I'm like that, for sure. I'm like a huge romantic, I think.

I'm very, like, lead with your heart, you know? Yeah. That's how I feel. I just want to lead with my heart always. Yeah. Was that fun for you getting to play a character that was different than you are in your personal life? Yeah, I think it's, it's an interesting thought experiment too because I think for Emily,

she is somebody who, like, her true self is she has a big heart and she like takes big swings and she wants to lead with how she feels, but she's been burnt before. and that is what causes her cynicism. Like, I think she is inspired by Owen because she sees someone who continually, even though he gets like, I don't know, like, even though he comes up against all these obstacles, like he is still so, like, optimistic with his heart. And she wants to be like that.

She wants to be able to like accept that about herself, I think. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I love something that you guys get into in the film is something that I feel like I have personally done in my past relationships, but also I see my girlfriends still doing to this day. It's kind of more so this building up this idea of who this person actually is, which I feel like is the entire course of the movie. I mean, do you guys feel like us in this generation, we're kind of, we're kind of stuck in that of building up these people that we may be in love with are attracted to, especially with social media too. Because I feel like my girlfriends will, like, show me a photo of a guy that they're into. And then you just kind of like built up this human and who they are.

Do you think that's kind of where our generation is at right now or if you guys have experienced that? I don't know if I've really experienced it, but like, I do agree that I do kind of agree a little bit that like, yeah, you kind of like, automatically, especially with social media and things start to think about who the person is before really getting to know them. You have a picture of them in your head, you know, because normally, like I was going to say, I remember, like, I don't remember, but back in the day, it would have been you met the, you met the day, it would have been you met the, you met the, you met the way. them and then you start talking about them. But a lot of the time now it's, I feel like with the social media stuff, if you see them beforehand, you know, and then it's you start to think, oh, this person's probably like this or like this or are they really cool because they wear this pair of jeans and that's really cool.

But then you meet them and it's like, okay, you've just seen that somewhere else and that's why you're wearing them. Like it's, yeah, I find that quite difficult though. I kind of struggle with it, but like at the same, like I always think, this is going off a little bit, but I always think like, and I need to get out of it. Like, I don't want to, I was like, oh, it's really, really scary that I might tell my children one day that the way that I met, um, their mother was on social media, you know, but by that time, it's going to be such a common thing, you know, and it actually doesn't really matter how you meet somebody as long as you like them, you know, but it's like, oh, I don't want to have to sit down my kids. You're like, oh, yeah, well, actually, I met, I met him on my Instagram, you know. You're one posted this photo. She was looking good. I followed her.

It's like your woman posted this photo and I was like I was liking her pictures for a little while. And that's like liking her stories. It was the whole thing. You know, I don't. But then then I also think like it doesn't actually matter. It is you like the person, you like the person, you know. But I think you do. Sorry, that went off a little bit.

But yeah, I think you definitely do maybe try and create somebody in your head before you actually know them, which is maybe not the best thing. but what do you think about that? What do you think? I'm going on that, right. No, I think that's very well said. Very well said. Yeah, I think we're always trying to manage expectations of people.

And, like, people's, you know, our perception of people. And even if you do get somebody in a room and you sit with them and hang out with them for an hour, you will still leave with a certain perception of them that is maybe slightly different from who they are or how they see themselves. I think we're constantly in every relationship, finding that balance of, like, truth and understanding and misrepresentation or, you know, I think it's a constant dance to really know somebody in the way that they want to be known. Yeah.

I know. I feel like it also kind of, like, just like as you were saying all of that, I feel like it really, it gets hard because you almost even like, you build up even like if the, you. the person is nice or whatever thoughts you like spiral about them in your head and then you maybe like go on a date with them after you've stocked all of their stuff and maybe they're not the greatest person but it takes you probably like four or five more dates to like realize that because you've built this persona up in your head so they kind of have to like almost like break it down like it takes you longer to realize what's actually happening. It's interesting.

I've never thought about that. This conversation is really, thank God I'm not dating. Thank God I'm married. That's all I have to say. I feel so sorry for my single girlfriends, but I'm proud of them because they're using the dating apps and they're trying. They're getting out there. That's all I can ask of them. Yeah.

Yeah. We're proud of them. Spike, I want to talk to you about Owen specifically. I love when a male lead has a very, like, soft. persona to them. It is a lover boy. It is emotional. And I feel like that's not very common as a male lead. And I want to know how that was for you. And I don't know if you would agree with this, but I feel like that kind of masculinity is almost like a little rare to find on screen as like the main male lead?

Yeah, I don't know. I think we see more and more of it now. I think, yeah, I think people are more, you know, open to it now. And we're seeing more and more of it. But I guess that was just, just for me, it was kind of just the right way that I win men to be, you know, I meant to be played. But, you know, I think it's, there's, I think there's a struggle about,

I don't know how to word it properly and not sound silly, like, you know, men being fully themselves, you know, and not going back to being like, oh, well, no, you have to be like this, you know, as a man, you have to be a man, you know, you can't cry, stuff like that, but it's not really like that, you know, and I think it's nice that Owen and, you know, the stuff has been portrayed like that or shown in that way because I just really like that Owen was portrayed like that.

And I think that needs to, you know, have more. It's also like it's sweet to see. It's nice to watch, you know, and not be, you know, it's, yeah. Yeah. I guess that's, yeah. Did that answer it kind of? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I think it's a good reminder because I feel like we're slowly getting out of the, the, whatever the toxic cycle is of like the guy, like, the chase of like girls, like, wanting a guy, you know, feeling like the guy's like not really that into them. So it keeps them around. But I feel like when we have male leads like this on the screen, it really reminds women that like, no, it's good to be chased. Like I always think in my personal life, like I, when my husband and I started dating, it was not that toxic thing at all. He was just like, he was like obsessed with me from the beginning. Sorry, hon. But he was just like, he's just a lover boy.

And like when I see characters like Owen, I think of like, it's just someone that is soft and really cares about chasing someone, which I feel like is good for our generation to see that there is men like that exist. And they don't need to feel like they're kind of like pushed to the side. But the movie asks whether love is created by like one magical moment or by spending meaningful time with someone. And I want to know. where each of you land with that. Are you like, will you meet someone and be like, this is it, I'm in, this is my person, or does it take more time? I'm very too. I'm very too. This is my person, you know. In like one moment. It's not in the, it's not in that first initial moment, but like hang out a few times and I always, you know, I'll tell my, you know, maybe gone a few dates. I'll see someone a few times and I'll go, you know, I'll go see my, that'll tell my best mate. I'd be like, she's the one, man. I found the one.

He's like, yo, what are you talking about? You know, but it's, yeah, I guess it's just that when something feels special, just I just like to live in it, you know? And then you've gone a few more days, hang out a little bit more, and you realize it probably wasn't the one, and that's all right, you know?

But, yeah, I wonder what it is like when I meet the one. I don't know. I know exactly what you mean, though, and I think that, I think also that stretches of time can, like, for me, I feel like I really need, you know, time to get to know somebody. But also when you go back and tell the story, whether you're telling it to yourself or to your journal or to your friends, those periods of time condense into one magical moment. So, you know, you can, you can spend hours and hours with somebody and, feels like time just like stretches, you know, just having the best time. And then you tell somebody about it and you're like, well, it's one magical moment. Like I think it can be both depending on how you tell it, which I kind of love.

And well, and that question is brought up in the film. Like, does time rush past or does it stand still? Like he says time stood still and then with my character, Emily, time rushes past. So yeah, I think like it can be both. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

That's sweet. I feel like I say that about how my husband and I started dating because we like speed dated for like a week and a half. And then he went to London and film for like two and a half, three months. So we did long distance like right off the beginning. And it was I always say that time period was so special because when he came home, I was like, I've known you for like a year, like, because all we could do was talk and I feel like I got to know him so well, but that is kind of like a special time period for me, like condensed into one. So I totally get what you're saying with that.

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Okay, I want to talk a little bit about mental health and self-care. I know in your industry there can be a lot of times where that's kind of pushed to the side because you guys just have some of the craziest schedules and just no time to breathe at times. And I want to know how, how do you take care of yourself? When your schedules are busy, you're having late nights, you're doing these press tours. What does rest look like to you? Are you able to rest during? Is there something you do during it? Or after when it's done, what do you do to relax? Are we resting, say, do you mean like we're working and? and then we rest on the weekend, or are you saying resting when we have no work?

So it's like a time period where maybe you're out of a job or you're waiting for a job to go, because it's very different. I would, if it's different, I mean, I'd love to hear both then. Because like a rest day on the weekend is very, for me, is very thinking about what's happening on the next. The thing is the problem with me a little bit, I don't know if it's a problem. It might be a good thing or a bad thing. I don't know yet, but when I'm in work, I'm very obsessed with what I'm doing at that

time and that's all that really matters. And it's like, even on the weekend, I'll be very, like, still fixated on what's about to come up and what's just happened, you know, whether that's going over things that have to go and then do or just, just thinking about the whole time, just like being in it and the whole time. But then, you know, I don't really have, I don't really find, I don't even try and find the time to go and just relax. I want to be just within it at that time.

I keep thinking, like, you know, it's like two, three months of my life, like, just go do it and just be completely in it at that point and then leave. And then once it's gone, it's like, and I'm out of work and I'm waiting for another job to go or waiting for a job to come in, that's also then the difference because if I'm waiting for a job to go, I'll wait, but I'll be thinking, oh, I have this, I have this. So I just enjoy my life. It's like, okay, I have this coming up. So I'll just hang around with friends and do whatever, you know, go watch films and educate

myself on movies and, you know, just try and do things I like. hobbies, you know, I got into cycling and riding bikes and, yeah, doing bikes and stuff. So I got into that, that was a big thing and keep trying to find different hobbies. But then if I'm out of work because I have no work, that's when, and I know this all sounds very like work related. And I'm very like, oh, I just need to work, work, work, but, and I'm not like that at all, you know, I do like free time. But if I'm out of work, all I think about is when is the next thing that happened. Well, you love it. So it makes sense. You know, it's something you're passionate about. So yeah just get into a weird kind of lag of like getting to a really because you come out of the bubble of work which is such a strong bubble that's really nice at the time and you think this is what life is and this is amazing. Then you come out of it and you're like I don't know what to do. Like my friends will text me being like, oh where in the world are you now? Like are you busy? I'm like no, it's it's 3pm. I woke up at 2pm and I'm going to go and bed at 4. Like it's it's kind of just like waiting around a lot for me and I feel like.

I need to get over. I need to find a way to really, you know, control my time a little bit better because I feel like waiting is such a... I always feel like I'm just waiting for something to happen or waiting for something to come out or waiting for someone and meet someone, waiting and waiting.

It always just feels like a long wait. Yeah. You know, and I've really enjoyed that for a bit, but I am ready to go and try and explore ways to get rid of the weight in and just be, like, just be present in the moment, you know? I guess. Yeah.

A little bit. Yeah. But yeah, what about you? Yeah, no. Yeah. No, that's, I mean, while I'm working, like, rest is so different. Like, similarly, I try and, especially on the weekend, I try and get myself one day, usually Saturday, to go and do something else and try and not think about work at all. Yeah.

And then Sunday, I dedicate to, like, learning the lines for the week, looking at what's coming up, meal prepping, cleaning the kitchen, doing all my laundry. like all that kind of stuff um and when i'm not working i i try and really fill my time with like i i think there is that there's there's that like fear for me or like that kind of yeah the idea of you know time not works not spent working feels like time wasted and i really try to push against that narrative i don't know where that comes from but yeah it comes from the world i guess but um I try and push against that and say, okay, well, you know, whatever I spent six months doing, I've spent six months traveling. Like earlier this year, like I went traveling with my sister and I spent time in London and I had an amazing time. And similarly, I guess this kind of idea

of input versus output as well, but when you're working, there's a lot of output, emotional output, creative output. So when I'm not working, it's like, okay, what am I taking in? I want to see shows. I want to see theater. I want to see. movies. I want to go to art exhibitions, spend time with friends, family. So that's what I think it is because I know that during while I'm working, I give so much of myself and then you kind of have to like balance that with like receiving once you're done. It's so true. I want to talk about the bubble that you brought up because I think that's something that I love hearing. people talk about is I think a lot of people that are in the industry don't realize how much

of kind of like a crash it almost is when you're just like in this bubble for this three, four, however many months period and you're just go, go, go and you're in this. And then you're seeing all the same people every single day. You're doing like there's a form of routine. And then you wrap and then you go home and then you're like, well, what do I do now? Like it's just like this kind of like let down of everything. Have you guys, how are you with navigating that? You wrap, you go home, you're able to like breathe for a second. Do you feel any form of like, I guess like emotional like heaviness from it just because you're like, well, what do I do now? Has it gotten easier for you as time has gone on and you've wrapped more projects? Like,

what is your relationship with that? No, it hasn't gotten easier for me, at least. I wrapped something earlier this week and I came home from the rap party and I called my mom and I was like, I'm feeling sad. And she was like, yeah. And I was like, yeah, why am I feeling so sad? And she's like, well, probably because you just finished the movie. I was like, yeah, that's right. Like it doesn't get easier. And I did a project, this sounds very dramatic, but this is really how it felt.

There was a project I did a couple of months ago now that was so emotionally intense and kind of visceral and like all consuming that when I came home, I felt like it was like this poison like leaching out of my body. And that sounds so dramatic, but I can't really think of another way to describe it. It was like there was something in my veins, maybe not a poison, maybe something good that's not a poison, but that was like slowly. like seeping out and it took maybe like two weeks like I was still dreaming about work I would sleep for like 14 hours which I have like chronic issues with sleep so very rare for me to sleep for that

long I would sleep for like 14 hours have these feverish dreams about everybody I was working with like still be on set in my dreams and then wake up like no I'm back in Australia it's I'm here with my family, it's, it's Christmas. Like, it was so weird. And so no, I don't think it gets easier, but I think putting a name to it maybe helps. And also recognizing that, like, just preparing yourself that, like, it will happen. And you do just have to feel it in order to let it go. Like, pushing it down won't help.

Is that super dramatic? No, it's great. That's great. That's great. I like I would say project as well. No, not project. Oh, project. Yeah, project.

I don't think of project. Project. I really like that. Love that's what you took away from it. No, no, no, no. I listened very deep. I listened very deep. No, I know you do.

But I was thinking about project. Project. I think that you said everything there pretty much. It's like. But do you feel that way? Yeah, it's weird though because like, luckily I've got the opportunity kind of like when coming out of job, I have something to kind of go on to next for, like,

not every time, but luckily that happened, you know, And then that's like straight after our movie that we did, I went straight to do something else. And then after that I did something else and then had a little break. But I felt like the break was needed, you know. And I was I was prepared for the break that time, you know. But I'm working on something at the moment. And I rap in like two weeks.

And like as much as I'm like obviously like very ready to rap and go home and see my family, I know that that it's going to be very, very hard for me to get out of, what it is. It's been such an experience and such like an enjoyable time. I keep thinking about how I don't know if I'll ever do anything. You know, I don't know if I'll ever do anything will fulfill me like this again, you know. And that's like, that's also, you know, a big cloud over me, I guess. And there's this whole like thing about, well, what's the right thing to do? That's what I'm thinking about now.

What's the right thing to do next? What's the next thing that should be what's the smartest movement? where's the best thing to go, you know. But it's also like you see, saying about the bubbles, but when you're in that bubble, it's like there's no one else, because you're working,

but it feels like people are being like, just leave them alone a minute because they're working. It's like you might have other things you have to think about that someone doesn't want to tell you about just yet because they're like, you're working, just leave them to work right now. And that's also,

I think, it's a struggle. I want people to call me and be like, yo, you have to do this. Like, you have, like this is something you always,

also have to do, life carries on. Because when you're in the bubble, people allow you to be in it. And it's like, it's really good to be in it. And that is the best. And it is good and the best. But like, say you're having a bad day and someone calls you about something,

you'd be like, look, I'm just really in the film right now. You know? But it's like, that's actually also important, you know? And I think it's not about how to live within the bubble. I think, no, live when you come out of the bubble. The thing is trying to live smartly in the bubble. So it doesn't change as much as maybe. But I don't know.

I'm so young and I'm not. you know, I'm not the person to tell anybody else. That's clever. No, no, no. That's, that's really, that's really smart and wise that you have that foresight, that you're able to, like, really see that. Because I've never even thought about it that way either. Well, maybe is that?

Maybe it's just, you know, learning to live in the bubble other than out of the bubble because then that doesn't really change that much, you know? And it's like, I guess, yeah. It helps, like, it'll probably, that would probably help the, that come down after when you do rap and when those emotions like come back up that would probably would make it easier. I think it's just a really difficult one

that I guess also is the thing that maybe takes a very, very long time to get over and like get your head in the right place because it's like it's not like doing that being an actor isn't like a job that's people see what you're doing. Yeah. You know, you do it and then people eventually

people have to watch it. And it's if you don't give it 100%, don't give it everything, are you going to be as proud as, and then you watch it and think, oh, you know, I should, I should have, I should have, I should have thought about that more, you know, then, yeah. So I can go two ways about it, you know. Yeah.

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You both kind of mentioned your family and your friends. What role do your family, your friends play in your self-care? And also, do you have any self-care routines? Like I know you mentioned cycling. Anything that just like feels good that you're like, after you do it, you're like, wow, like I feel reset. I feel recharged. I feel good to go. Is it family time? Is it getting out? What, what is that for you? I love time I love time with my family. I think anytime I call home, like, my sister, she's, she's really smart. She's three years younger than me and like feels world wiser. But she says this too. She's like, she's like, giving advice to other people is the best. Like, because you don't have to take it yourself. I love giving advice.

That's sweet. So she like brings me down from whatever spiral I'm in, which is good. And I also love a walk. I do think of just a simple walk outside. I've never felt worse after a walk personally. Yeah. So sometimes all it takes is I just force myself. I'm like, just get outside and go for a walk. You probably won't feel worse.

You might not feel better, but you won't feel worse. Are you the type of walker that is headphones and listening to music, or you're just taking in the sounds of the surrounding area? Depends where I'm walking. If I'm walking to the city, I want headphones. I don't want to hear everybody. Yeah. It's called a main character walk.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But once I get to nature, if I get to a park or something, I'll take my headphones out so I can listen to the birds. I like listening to the birds. That's sweet. I also, I am guilty of like a voice note walk. Like I'll walk and like start sending voice notes to people.

I've probably sent you several voice notes on my walks. And then I can't hear what you're saying because you're walking through New York City. I'm like, right, sorry. And then you're like out of breath and you're like three minutes into the voice now. You're like, why did I decide to send this? Yeah. I'm like, and basically what I wanted to. So that's, that's me.

I love that. Music, singing, anything that regulates the breath. I think singing, singing and playing music, like actually with instruments, playing music, not just, and singing. I think any, that always makes me feel better because it physically regulates your breath. You cannot be like when you're, thing. Anyway, that's me. Yeah. family a big thing, you know, my sister as well.

You know, I'm not the best at calling them, you know. So if they ever watch this, I'm sorry. But I'm not the, I'm not the best at calling them all the time. And I think they do that thing, you know, where it's like, oh, he's working right now. You know, let's leave him to it. But they try and call his music. And then I'll answer the phone. I'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then I'll be like, I'll call you back. And then I forget to call him back. But that, like, I appreciate my family a lot, you know. my sister, you know, my sister Lily especially, she's, like, always, I mean, if you call her, she ain't picking up the phone, but she'll call you like three times a day. So you know, you'll get her in the day, but if you call her, she'll pick up. That's funny. That's such a sibling thing to say. But she's always calling, you know, and it's nice. And she's like, and I'll tell her something. And then when I talk to my mom and dad, she's already told them. So if I have any news,

I'll tell my sister and then my mom and dad will know about it. And then they'll probably call me about it, you know? My sister does the same thing. I'll, like, call my mom and she'll be like, so, calliope told me? I'm like, okay, well, I wanted to tell you too. Yeah, it's like, and I won't even say that, yo, don't tell my mom and dad, and she'd be like,

no, no, of course, not, of course, not, I'll let you tell them. And then as soon as I'll pick up to find my mom and dad, they're not interested in this situation. You know, but other than, yeah, family are great. Friends are great, you know, I try to go back to my hometown as much as possible to hang out with friends and family. but for like self thing is like yeah walking is amazing like um and i would i will say a running like going for going for a run is like run for fun but running is really like you're

and not or like any form of exercise or anything like that is really good i feel like your mind tells you before i don't want to do this but you'll never regret it after you've done it you know Yeah. Like, you might, you know, but you might say you want to go for a run. You won't regret the run after you've been on the room, but you might regret it if you don't. Yeah. So, I follow that. Also, like, an ice bath.

As weird as it sounds. Really? If you just, if you wake up in the morning to freeze your body for like seven minutes or something, like, it's like, you get such a, like. It's like a high that you get from it. It's like, zings you. It's nuts. You get high from it. And then you like, you wake up at like, say you have to wake up at like 5am,

you get straight at that. By 6am, you feel like it's like midday and you just like, you know, it's really, it's really good for you. Yeah. That's pretty good. Because you learn to control your breathing or something. I don't know. I'm not like.

It does something. It does something that it works. That's all we know. For sure. That's all that matters. Okay. Last question I have for you guys. If you could describe finding Emily in three words, what would they be?

Three. Three between us? No, yeah, you picked three and I'll pick three. It's a competition. No, no, it's not a competition at all, but I'm just saying that, like, we did that one time. Someone asked us this question one time. I think you got two words and I only got one. He wants.

This is time. You take your words. No, I'm joking. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. Okay, my three words. It's quite hard to think of three, actually. Okay, well, let's go back and forth until we've got six.

How about that? Okay. Sorry, we're creating a new game. Yep, that's great. You start. Okay, I'll stop. Whitty. Whitty switch, like, no, I can't even see.

All the words have left to say. I'm going to say charming. It is charming. It's good. All right. Okay, witty, charming. My second word is going to be musical. It's not a musical, but there's a lot of good music, musical.

It's a musical, charming. I'm going to say pure. It feels very pure. Yeah. Does it? That just thought that maybe that sounded cool. Yeah. Does that sound cool?

That's cool. Let's go with that one then. I mean, my last word has to be romantic. Oh. Well, actually, I wasn't. I was going to say, I was just going to say, yeah, along those lines, actually. So, let's just, I will both say romantic. Romantic.

Romantic. Oh, I'll allow it. I'll allow it. I love it. Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for joining. Thank you. So lovely to meet you as well. I can't wait for everyone. I'll ask you a quick question. Yeah. Do you like, do you really like lemons or? It's, it's like a play on of a long, a long thing. I worked as a COVID, I'm a registered nurse by like career, worked as a COVID nurse. Then got PTSD, had to leave. And then I started a blog that turned, to a nonprofit that turned into a podcast and the blog was lemons by Tay because life was like

chucking lemons at me during that time period. So it's kind of gone from like that to the lemons foundation to the squeeze. So it's all, it's just like one big pun. So I do enjoy them, but. No, I like it. I was just wondering if that was like your favorite, you know. Fruit? That's a fruit, right? Yeah, lemons fruit. I don't know why. Lemon's lemonade. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.