The Squeeze - Brooklyn and Bailey: Growing Together Through Different Seasons Part 2

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

This week, Tay sits down for part two of a two-part conversation with identical twin influencers and entrepreneurs Brooklyn and Bailey! In last week's episode, they talked about how they got started on social media, handling hate and setting boundaries, Brooklyn's pregnancy journey and postpartum experience, and so much more. This week, Bailey bravely opens up about navigating infertility while her identical twin sister got pregnant easily, sharing how lonely the journey has felt and how it caught her completely off guard. She talks about how infertility has affected her relationship with her husband, including getting to a point where they had to choose to start having fun again instead of letting it feel like a chore. She shares the hardest part mentally and what made her decide to share her story online. Bailey also gets candid about what this season has been like within her relationship with Brooklyn, reflecting on the fact that they've done everything together their whole lives and this is the first thing they truly can't relate on and how it has ultimately made their bond even stronger. They wrap up by sharing what they're each most proud of in the other!Check out Part 1 of their episode: https://youtube.com/watch?v=McGJNB4-2AwBe sure to follow Brooklyn & Bailey on https://instagram.com/brooklynandbailey/ and https://youtube.com/@BrooklynAndBailey!To email us your questions or share your story, you can reach out to [e-mail] sure to rate, review, and follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode! Plus, follow us on all of our socials:The SqueezeInstagram: https://instagram.com/thesqueeze/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@thesqueezepodcastTay LautnerInstagram: https://instagram.com/taylautner/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@mrstaylautnerAmazon Storefront https://urlgeni.us/amazon/FDXj7 Taylor LautnerInstagram: https://instagram.com/taylorlautner/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@taylorlautnerTo learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow https://instagram.com/lemonsbytay/ and visit https://lemonsbytay.comEpisode Sponsors:As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between free ribeyes for a year, or ground beef or chicken breast for life, PLUS $20 off when you go to ButcherBox.com/squeezeTaking care of your health just got easier – start here with Zocdoc: https://zocdoc.com/SQUEEZE #sponsoredOpill is birth control in your control, and you can use code SQUEEZE for twenty five percent off your first month of Opill at Opill.com.The Squeeze listeners get 20% off their first service when you visit facefoundrie.comTo shop the most wonderful deals for school, check out staples.com/TheSqueezePlease donate today at ronaldmcdonaldhouse.org/donate/mcbridefamily to help more families stay.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. I would not wish infertility on anybody. I had waited a really, really long time to tell anybody. It's the first time pretty much in my whole life where I haven't shared something online and I haven't told my family ever. First time I've just struggled by myself. And I think that's also partially why I felt so alone. And I really, really recommend to anyone who's going through it.

Please don't do what I did. Like, do not do that. I know it seems so scary to tell people. It feels so deeply personal. And like so vulnerable. Like obviously, clearly I still cry every time I talk about it. But tell somebody so they know what's going on because, yeah, it was definitely hard. You're like, I don't need to tell them because I'm going to get pregnant next month.

I don't need to tell them because it's not that big of a deal. It's only month six. It's not infertility. It's just seven months of negative tests. That's what you tell yourself. But that is actually something to, one, be sad about. Two, tell people about so you can get support. I just didn't know.

I didn't have anyone to talk to. That stuff I had to figure it out of my own. Lemon drops, welcome back to the squeeze. I am so excited for you guys to finally hear part two of my episode with Brooklyn and Bailey. In part one, we really dove into Brooklyn's pregnancy, her journey with that, with postpartum, and the girl's background in social media, but in this episode, we are diving into everything that Bailey has been dealing with recently. In this episode, Bailey bravely opens up about navigating infertility while her identical twin sister got pregnant easily, sharing how lonely the journey has felt and how it caught her completely off guard.

She talks about how infertility has affected her relationship with her husband, including getting to a point where they had to choose to start having fun again. Instead of having sex, feel like a chore. She shares the hardest part mentally and what made her decide to share her story online. Bailey also gets candid about what this season has been like within her relationship with Brooklyn, reflecting on the fact that they've done everything together, their whole lives, and this is the first time they truly can't relate to one another. and what effects it's had on their relationship.

I am so honored that Bailey felt safe enough to open up with me and you lemon drops about her story. This episode is a bit emotional. So for those who are dealing with pregnancy loss or infertility, little trigger warning there, but it is really so inspiring and I am so proud to know Bailey. Brooklyn and Bailey's bond is something that I've never seen before. And it's so special to see how they interact together in this special episode. Bailey.

Oh, yay. Your turn. You've been really open on the internet about your infertility journey. And first of all, I want to thank you for doing that because I can't imagine how hard that is. And I think it's really important for women to share about their journey with that because I think a lot of women suffer in silence. Because they don't want to share. And there's a lot of shame and guilt. And I'm sure we'll get into all of those feelings.

But can you share a little bit about your journey or process where you're started and where you're at today? Yeah, of course. Yeah, so you guys, obviously, you heard Brooklyn's story of quick and easy and perfect. And I love that for her. I literally hold no bitterness at all towards that. I would not wish infertility on anybody because going through it has literally, quite literally been one of the hardest things I've ever gone through. And there was like 100% trance, I will cry during this. podcast.

We got issues. Still so like. Like we're prepared. We're new. But yeah, it's been quite an interesting journey. My husband and I knew when we got married. We got married really young at 21 that we wanted to wait a while for kids. So we waited four and a half years, I think.

I'm trying to remember where we're at now. Four years. Or maybe three and a half. Four years because you're going on five. Yes. So we started basically a year ago. Well, more than a year ago now, but a year ago. And I was never really sure if kids was like something I was 100% on because I never felt that call towards babies.

I never had like that, that what do they call it, baby fever? Yeah. I never had that. I watched her and she always had baby fever. Like I knew she was going to be a mom, but I wasn't sure it was in my cards. And then one day I woke up, it was Easter weekend. And I woke up and I turned to my husband. I'm bawling my eyes out.

And I'm like, I don't know why. but I just feel like it's time. Like something changed literally overnight. When people say it's not overnight, I'm like, it literally is because it was overnight for me. It was. I just all the sudden knew I wanted to try for a baby. I felt like it was time. I feel like part of that was probably I had had Archer.

And so she got to see. Yes. Like in real life, almost what her own life would look like. Yeah. It was like a mirror of what I could have. Yeah. And I was so, like, taken aback by how much, how amazing it was. Yeah.

Anyway, I woke up overnight and was like, it's time to try. And he was really shocked because we literally talked about waiting for five years and all this stuff. And so he was right on board with me. He's always on board with me. He's like, the best thing about my husband. He's like, sure. Okay, whatever. So he was, like, totally down.

And so we started trying. And I totally went into it with the expectation. that I would get pregnant right away because I have an identical twin sister who literally biologically is identical to me. And so I thought there's literally no reason why I should struggle. We have a long line of lineage and we're very blessed to have this of women who've never struggled to get pregnant. Literally when I talk about great grandmas, like nothing. Ants, aunts, siblings, nothing. And so I just totally had this full expectation that it would be totally fine. Never had any issues with my cycles or any preconception that there would be issues.

Yeah. And then obviously we started trying month one, got a negative test, month two, got a negative test, month three, got a negative test. And it was about month three when I started thinking, uh-oh. Like, hmm. Yeah. But they say it can take a while. And I started doing my own research behind it and realizing the statistics of how long it can actually take people to get pregnant and whatnot. So she was literally like every month. She'd be like, well, now I have a 40 percent. Now I'm in the 40 percent chance. Like now I'm in the 30 percent. Like she has. Like she has. Like the stats. Like, she's like, it's okay, we're still, we're still in 30%. We're still in the 30%. Like, we're still in the 20%. Yeah. It's like, okay, 15% of people get pregnant their first month and then 25% of people get pregnant the second month and it just keeps going up.

And so I was doing the statistics of the percentage of people who aren't pregnant by that point. Anyway, it's a whole mental game, a whole mental battle. And the people who've been through it will understand how you start to like figure out, oh, my chances of being in that percentage of people who still aren't pregnant at this point. It's like, oh, no, it's for sure this month because 95% of people are pregnant by this month and then you're not. And it's all the sudden like, oh, crap. So, yeah, it was probably month three that I realized I think something might be funky, but it can take

a while. And by month six was when I came to the full realization of like this maybe isn't going to be easy for us. And I feel like it's one thing that I tried to share on our page a little bit is the in-between because when you talk to doctors or you look it up online or anything like that, it literally says it's not even considered infertility until you hit a year mark of trying if you and your partner are healthy. But I think that window of time is a little bit under, I don't know what the word is, like under talked about. not spoken about. Because you either hear people who get pregnant right away or you hear people who have struggled with infertility for three to 10 years. Well, it's because when you're like posting

a pregnancy and out of something, you're not like, and it took us six months to get, you know, like nobody's like, and nine months late, nine tries later. Like no one says that. So it's like, it's either, oh my gosh, ha ha, we were barely trying or oh my gosh, it's an IVF baby. You know, like there's really no in between. And so for me, I felt extremely alone. I've never felt more alone in my life and now I'm going to cry. I've never felt more alone before. And it was a really scary. Sorry.

That's okay. Isolating feeling because I have a twin sister and I've never been alone before. And I couldn't share it with her. It was something that she couldn't really understand. I knew for clarification. I knew about it, but just there was not like I didn't understand. Yeah, no relatability. Like I can try, but have.

not experienced it myself. Yeah. So it was a really interesting period of my life where I didn't know anyone who had struggled. My sister couldn't really understand. She had a beautiful baby. And I was just trying to figure out how to navigate all those feelings of disappointment every month and figuring out how to like navigate that for myself and with my husband who's also feeling the disappointment, you know, right along with me. So it was a really interesting and really unfortunately very sad time. But it was probably about 9, 10, 11, month 11 that I decided. I was like, okay, it's time to go to the doctor and get some blood work and stuff done. I also told my parents at month, I think, 10.

So I had waited a really, really long time to tell anybody. I think I told Brooklyn and maybe one other friend who I knew had struggled to get pregnant. So I was very much, like, very quiet about it. It's the first time pretty much in my whole life where I haven't shared something online. and I haven't told my family ever. Like, first time I've just struggled by myself. And I think that's also partially why I felt so alone. And I really, really recommend to anyone who's going through it.

Please don't do it. I did. Like, do not do that. I know it seems so scary to tell people. It feels so deeply personal and, like, so vulnerable. Like, obviously, clearly I still cry every time I talk about it. But I would encourage, like, tell somebody so they know what's going. on because, yeah, it was definitely hard.

I think part of the reason you didn't tell a lot of people was because you had it in your head you wanted to do this big, like pregnancy reveal, like, nobody even knew you were really trying. Well, that's not only it. That may have been the case for month one through three. But then once you get to, like, you're just getting heard like, well, I don't need to tell them because I'm going to get pregnant next month. You're like, I don't need to tell them because I'm going to get pregnant next month. Like, also, I don't need to tell them because it's not that big of a deal.

It's only month six. Like it's only month seven. It's not infertility. It's just seven months of negative tests. Like that's what you tell yourself. But that is actually something to one, be sad about to tell people about so you can get support and all that stuff. And I just didn't know. I didn't have anyone to talk to.

And I didn't really know that stuff. I had to figure it out of my own. But tell them about what month you decided to go to the doctor. Yeah. It was month 11. So almost a year we went into the doctor and did blood work. And that's when I found out my AMH levels were low, which is my egg reserve. so I don't have as many eggs as the average woman.

So that means that, like, I'd have a shorter window of time to get pregnant. So that also just added a whole other level of urgency behind why I wanted to get pregnant and still couldn't. So, yeah, after lots of blood work and doctor's visits, they really couldn't conclude what was wrong with, at least with me. And my husband, his results were coming back kind of borderline. So ultimately we met to a couple of doctors who decided to do a surgery for Asa, my husband, to hopefully improve quality of his, I don't know if I can say sperm. Yeah, okay. Quality of his sperm. And now that's the step that we're on right now.

But we're definitely past a year. So it's definitely now solidly, early window of infertility. And yeah, I think it's quite an interesting predicament to identical twin sisters, one who got pregnant within two weeks. one who's on month I don't even know what anymore have negative tests. So yeah, when Bailey got her AMH levels tested, she was like, she called me and she was like, I need you to go get your AMH levels tested because I need to know if this is the reason that I'm not pregnant. Like, I need to know if this is something because like you obviously got pregnant. So like, what if you have a lot of eggs? Like, what if you took all my eggs? Like, I don't know. You know, like we were twin.

So I went in and got my AMH levels tested and mine also happened to be lower than Bailey's, like you've lower than Belize. So that was, it was kind of like deductive reasoning. That's how we knew that wasn't the reason that she wasn't getting pregnant because I clearly have lower image levels in her and was able to get pregnant. So that's sort of how they narrowed it down, I think, onto this like one aspect of ASA that they're hopefully going to be able to fix with surgery. Yeah. So. Yeah. First of all, thank you for sharing that. Oh, yeah. And now I feel like I, I'm like a lot better about it. But yeah. Yeah. I mean, no, I can't, I can't imagine. having to walk through that.

And I'm really thankful that you're sharing that. Because, I mean, even me, I wasn't, I wasn't trying to get pregnant, but also I have been, I had been off of birth control for, like, six, eight months before I got pregnant. And, like, I, you know, that may be something that I hope that I maybe deal with one day, too, because, you know, I did get pregnant out of nowhere. But, like, I wasn't like, okay, let me try. And I think a lot of women can obviously relate to you because it's just, it's a part of being a woman, unfortunately. And I think it's really important for people that are walking through it to share it because I think that's the biggest thing is we need support. And it is so isolating and so many aspects of being a woman, especially when it comes to the beginnings of motherhood before that. it's a really it's just an interesting journey that we don't talk about and I love that you brought that up about the whole the year thing because yeah what is like you know what is the point you end up getting pregnant six months later like you're pregnant so why like it still took you like six eight nine months but you're pregnant so why would you even bring it up so I love that you shared that because that's definitely something I I've never viewed it that way or thought about it because the only time we do hear about it is like when it's your story it's like my girlfriend was my girlfriend was that's my girlfriend was.

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But I know a lot of couples deal with like their intimacy. Like it affects it because it's like I'm only having sex during this ovulation time. Yeah. It's like homework. Yeah. And it's literally just like a chore and it's not something that is actually like fruitful in a marriage. Can you just share a little bit about that? Yeah.

First of all, me and Brooklyn share literally everything. So I am not scared to talk about sex or anything else for that matter. But yeah, it's 100% true. Like what you think would happen is exactly what happens. It starts to feel so much like a chore. And I said this on our platform and I'll say it here, it doesn't matter how healthy of a marriage you have because I feel like, like not to brag, but I feel like we have a really, really healthy marriage.

And it just is so. hard because it is so hard when you want something so bad. I'm also a type A person. So when I see a problem, I want to fix it. And the only way to fix not having a baby is to have sex when you opulate. That is literally the only thing that you can do besides going to the doctor. So it is really hard not to schedule and make it like a planned event and a very like chore based thing and lose all the fun and the love in it. And we definitely got to that point. I don't know. even know what months that happened, probably further in the journey. But it definitely got to that point. We eventually, I eventually set him down and was just like, look, I think we just need to

have fun again. We just need to not stress about it and have fun. And what will happen will happen. And after having that conversation, we just kind of took our foot off the gas pedal. And that helped a lot. But it does kind of require a realization of what is happening and that it's feeling like a chore. I mean, it literally becomes work. Like, you're like, okay, I ovulated. And now let's, let's go. Have you seen in the movie what's what to expect when expecting? It's like when the timer goes off.

When the timer goes off on her phone and she's like, I'm ovulating. And he's like, okay. And they go back at the, you know. Yeah, it's like clockwork. But especially if you're a person that also were really open. So just like a heads up on all the things I'm going to say. But like, if you're a person that loves sex or like really loves to have fun while having sex, it is hard because it does.

become so much of just like a methodical thing instead of a fun thing between you and your partner. So that was definitely something we struggled with. And I remember you calling me and me like, like, I hate it. She's like, yeah. This sucks so bad. This is horrible. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, that's so true. And I think that's something that also isn't talked about. Yeah, again, too, because we are so private with our sex lives, which I think there is a good boundary to have. Of course. But when it comes to that, like I'm sure, you know, first couple months, it's like, ooh, yay, I'm ovulating. Yeah, let's go. And then by month six, you're like, well, let's like, you're like, okay, let's go. Like the mood just changes every time. Yeah. Yeah, it's gotten a lot better

now. But I also think it does become that way, sadly, because your expectations of it succeeding when you're trying so hard or so low. Like after a couple of months, you do the methodical chore-based version. And when you get so many negatives, you're like, okay, let's just go back to having fun because this is obviously not working. So that's kind of the phase we're in right now where we're just back to having fun again. Yeah. Hoping for the best.

What do you think has been the hardest part for you in this mentally of either like uncertainty, comparing your journey, like just the loss. of control, is there something you can name that you think has been one of the harder things for you? Oh, gosh. I can. I know. I would say that from what you tell me, it seems like the hardest part is not having a really a solid answer. Yeah. Like the uncertainty of the unknown, whether something's going to work or not, whether that's 100% the answer, whether that's the answer in the future. Is this going to happen again? Like just the so many questions. If you could tell me right now, oh, you have to go through this horrendously awful emotional

experience, but 10 months in, you'll have a baby. Oh, I'd be turning through that like nobody's problem. I'd be like, okay, yeah, totally fine. I can do it. The difficult part is when you're a year or so or even longer than that into it, not knowing how much longer you're going to have to do this or if it will ever end. If you'll ever get to be pregnant or get to have a baby, It's a weird feeling of like wondering, you sit there looking at someone who's pregnant or looking at someone who has a baby and you're wondering, will I ever experience that? Will I get to know what it feels like to be pregnant or, you know, all those things. Because obviously adoptions are things so you can have a baby, but it's more like, will I ever feel what it feels like to grow a baby in my womb? Like that kind of, those kinds of questions of being able to get pregnant myself. Yeah. It's kind of an interesting thought process and the unknown of it all, especially as a type of person. who likes to have the answers. It's really hard. Yeah.

How was your experience you deciding to open up about it online and the response from it? It's kind of an interesting story on that one. I didn't necessarily decide fully that I was ready to share. Like when I shared it, I wasn't 100% ready to share it. But it needed to be said, if that makes sense. Yeah. Because she had a baby. Yeah, I was like, she obviously had a baby.

And we were not open about trying online at all. So no one knew that we were struggling at all. And so we started to frequently get comments about me secretly being pregnant or body shaming comments about me looking pregnant or things like that often. It was every day all day long. And then things like, I don't know if you saw on TikTok, there was the secret lemon who was secretly pregnant. And if for anyone that doesn't know that was a lemon that was a creator who didn't want to, you know, announce that they were pregnant yet. And so they were using a filter to talk about their pregnancy. Anyway, there was a lot of gossip about who that might have been.

And I was their number one guest. So there were a lot of TikToks going around about me being secretly pregnant, me having a baby. I was getting DMs with people congratulating me on my pregnancy and my baby. And it was all while I was almost a year into infertility. and I remember like just absolutely breaking down to my husband. I was like, it's one thing to go through this. It is another thing to have people, I don't even know, projecting a life you want so badly, I guess. Like they want it so bad and I can't even blame them because I want it so bad, you know?

Like they want it for me. I want it for me. But it got to the point where I know that these are kind people who don't understand the harm that they're doing because I haven't shared it, you know? And so after a couple of those kind of blew up, I decided to share because I was honestly needed them to know. So they could start being a little more sensitive about the subject, I think. It's kind of why I started talking about it. And then because I knew I was going to be open about it, then my intention was to hopefully share and help people. Like if I had to be so alone and sad, at least let this help somebody else not be so alone and sad during the whole thing.

And it has really. I've gotten so many kind messages and that's been making it all worth it. If I have to go through this, at least let it be for something. Like, you know, at least let it be that I'm talking about it so publicly and so openly that it can help someone else figure out their journey or like not feel so alone. It's kind of how I felt. Yeah. As someone who's very much in their busy pregnancy mom-to-be era right now,

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prepare for. And that's why learning about Ronald McDonald House really stayed with me. Ronald House supports families with children who are ill or injured around the world. The organization provides accommodations, essential resources, and a community of support, all at no cost. So families can be at the heart of their child's care. It's not just about having a place to stay. It's about removing barriers during one of the hardest moments a family could go through. It's about making sure parents don't have to choose between being close to their child and everything else they're navigating. And something that really stood out to me is the reality of how many families actually need that support. Today, Ronald McDonald House is only able to support about one third of the families around the world who need its services.

And that need is expected to grow. This gap inspired an ambitious goal to double the number of families served by 2030. When I heard that, it honestly stopped me for a second because that means there are so many families out there who need this kind of support and just don't have access to it yet. And that's why this mission feels so important right now. Ronald McDonald's House is announcing the McBride family as its first global spokes family to shine a light on a family who has stayed and the urgent need to support more families around the world. Their story is something that really puts everything into perspective. After a car accident led to multiple hospital stays surgeries and the premature birth of their daughter, Juliana,

the McBride's turn to Ronald McDonald House and discovered far. more than a bed to sleep in. They found holistic support, community, and resources when their family needed it most. It's not just about a single moment of support. It's about everything that comes with it. It's about giving families the ability to stay close, to feel supported, and to not have to go through something like that alone. And when you hear stories like that, it makes you realize how much of a difference something like this can make, not just practically, but emotionally too. So when we talk about this goal doubling the number of families served by 2030, it's not just a number. It's real families, real moments, real support that changes everything about how someone experiences the

hardest of times in their life. With a goal to double the number of families served by 2030, Ronald McDonald House needs your support. Please donate today at ronaldemothouse.org slash donate slash McBride family to help more families stay. I just think it's so cool. Like this, my pregnancy journey has been the most messages I've ever gotten literally in my life. And I feel like I'll just share the little snippet of like I opened up a couple months back when I first started talking about my pregnancy, just how I like really didn't like my body. Yeah. And I don't think a lot of people talk about that enough.

And I have never gotten so many messages before. And it was something that I was kind of iffy about sharing. because, of course, the internet's going to be like, you're so ungrateful that, of course. Pregnant, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. And I was just like, you know what, like this is how I'm feeling. And I know I'm not the only person

that's feeling this way. And the amount of messages of women feeling the same way, it's just there's so many of us going through the same thing, but we don't share. Yeah. And it's really special, I think, being able to share what you're going through

and to be able to connect with people that actually care. about you and are going through the same thing. Absolutely. It's really, it really just makes you feel not alone. Yeah. It's so cliche, but it's validating. It's actually true.

And that's why I like, like, that's why I like sharing everything in general about our lives because you just be, I mean, honestly, humans have so, so few original experiences. Like, we're all low-key experiencing some, if not most of the same feelings and things. we just don't say it out loud. So real. So when I decided to share, I was like, okay, I really hope that this gets received well. And I hope that people see and resonate with it, you know, and it helps them a little bit. I feel like when you decided you were going to post about your fertility, it was like a flip switched.

Because it was like she decided and she had it posted within like two hours. I couldn't chicken out. I was going to check it out. I was like, are you sure? Like, do you want to think about it? Like, do we want to sit on it right? Do we want to plan out, like, what day we're going to post it on? And then you could be prepared.

She was like, no, I'm posting it right now. I was like, okay. I knew. I was like, it's so sensitive. And I was so anxious to post it. It was like the most anxious I've ever been to post something in my entire life because it was so sensitive. And you know, when you put something on the internet, it can go places you didn't intend for it to go. And you never know the responses you're going to get.

It could be really ugly or it could be really positive. And it being such a sensitive subject, I knew I was like not emotionally. 100% ready for all of that. So when I decided, I was like, okay, I just have to do it. Just push post and like, that was it at the end. Just let it go where it went. Yeah. I love that. I want to know the biggest thing between the two of you. Because obviously, being literally almost one human, like you guys are so similar and you literally do everything together. What's been, what's been the hardest part of it for both of you. I mean, do you want to go? Well, I would say, because it really, like, the motherhood thing isn't like a struggle. That's like an awesome thing I get to share with Bailey.

It's harder watching her struggle with something that, like, was almost something I took for granted. Like, I just like didn't even, I, you know, I wanted to be pregnant and I got pregnant. You know, like, so it's been really hard watching her, like, struggle and not, literally not being able to do any. Like Bailey always said that when she watched me get birth. She was like, I felt so useless. That's kind of how I feel. I just feel so useless. Like I'm like, I'll come to your doctor's appointment with you. Like I'll, if I got my image tested and I was like, if I have more eggs, I'll give them to you. Like, I'll go do IVF for you because she hates needles. I was like, I'll do IVF for you. Like, I'll collect my eggs and you can't have them. I'll collect my eggs and you can't have them. Like, genetically this were the same. So it works. It'd be the same. It'd be the same X. So I was like, I'll do it for you. Like, anything because I can't, like, I can't have a baby. I'll have a baby for you. Like, like, I'll have a baby for you. Like, like, I'll have a baby for you. Like, like, I anything to just like especially because I know how special that relationship is like being a mother. I know how amazing that is. And like, oh, I want that for her so bad. I want that for you so bad. And it's just like, I can't do anything to make that happen any faster. Yeah. I think a lot of people expect me to say the hardest part is seeing my identical twin sister living the life that I want.

But I genuinely mean it from the bottom of my court. That's not difficult for me. Like, I am so happy that she lives this life. My nephew is the best thing that ever happened to me. A therapy baby. He is. Every time I'm sad, I just go over and I hug him and I play with him. It's literally the best thing ever. I think the difficult thing is, like I said earlier, when you're twins, you experience

everything at the same time. Like, I mean everything. We went to high school together. We went to college together. We shared a room. We have the same phase, puberty, everything. So you struggle with something. You go to the other one and you talk to them about it.

And they're also sympathizing because they're going through it at the same time. The hardest part for me is that she can't 100% sympathize because she's not going through it. You know what I mean? As much as you as a human sympathize, there's just a degree of you can't understand it until you experience it. The same way I feel probably about, you feel about birth. I can't understand. I've never given birth. A few times in our life that that has happened.

Like, Bailey, Aso was her first kiss, her first love, like everything. And so she never experienced heartbreak. So, like, having dated people and, like, had my heartbroken, like, that was something she could never understand. And now I feel like roles are reversed. Rules are basically reversed. And now you're struggling with a different type of heartbreak. And I can't understand that. Yeah.

And that's definitely the most difficult thing. Because it's like, oh, my person I usually go to. Yeah. Like, I can't necessarily always go to you with questions and you have the answers, you know. I can sure try. Yeah. And you do. In what ways do you feel that it's made your relationship stronger?

Hmm. Interesting. Huh. Well, I've definitely realized the limit is, like, non-existent for what I would do for Bailey. Like, literally, I was like, well, I genuinely would. Like, she's love. Hates needles. And IVF is just, like, I mean, getting, like, an egg retrieval is so many needles. So many needles.

So I was like, I genuinely would do it. Like, I genuinely would have if I had had more. more eggs in her. I would have like, no problem. I can't take them. If that was the issue, like, I would have done it. Like, so I would say that. But we're pretty, we're pretty close before all this episode. So it's like really nothing. You can shake it. I think maybe just that people and I think it's because of people don't understand a twin relationship, they expect there to be jealousy. And the fact that they even expect there to be jealousy even makes me feel less jealous. It was like if there was even jealousy at all, it's like, I think that only made us me

just love my nephew and happy for her even more if that makes any sense like if anything it's made it stronger yeah um but yeah I think going through hard things always makes you connect in a weird way yeah that's true but we just if we're twins you can't get closer than the womb guys like seriously yeah it's as close as it gets so I love that okay well last question I have for you guys is I would love I would love to know what you're most proud of the other for oh hmm hmm hmm Definitely becoming a mom. I feel like that has, well, actually, I'm going to revise that. Becoming a mom and also a working mom because I know it's been really tough for you to do that.

Yeah. And the way that you balance both and you're like a good mom to archer and a good boss is very admirable. Thanks. I'm not going to cry when you say that. She's going to cry. She's getting teary eyes. That's very thoughtful. I would say I'm the most proud of Bailey for navigating

something so hard, even though she did do it by herself and regrets doing it by herself, doing it by herself. Because Bailey's a chronic oversharer. And a chronic, like, me, I'm always there. Like, I'm her support system. So the fact that she, like, has done this by herself and, like, done it so well, like, you wouldn't even know she was secretly sad all the time. Even though she tells me she's secretly sad all the time.

Like, I do think that that is, like, really admirable. And, like, people, people just don't even know, you know. Yeah. I love that. That's so sweet. Well, thank you both for coming and sharing and being so honest and open. And I think your stories and your relationship are really just inspiring to everyone that's listening. And I know it's going to help a lot of women that are walking through infertility and moms that are figuring out their boundaries and their work life situations. It's really special. And I applaud you

both for like carrying it with such grace. Oh, thanks. You're so sweet. Love it. And you too. Yeah, you are doing it. I'm killing it. I love that. Awesome. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.