The Squeeze - Hyram Yarbro: Pain Demands to Be Felt

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

TW: restrictive eating disorder, self-harm, suicidal ideation  At a quick glance, you may recognize Hyram Yarbro as a skincare influencer, popular on YouTube and TikTok. After today’s conversation, we believe you’ll see him as so much more. Coming from a career in the makeup industry as a skincare specialist, cosmetic salesman, and makeup artist, Hyram had a real grasp on what people were spending their money on, as well as the lack of education for the regular consumer. Today, he opens up about his childhood trauma, including not being accepted by his family for being gay. This experience led him to face mental health challenges, but he is grateful for it nonetheless, as it made him stronger. He explains how his childhood was experienced through a survivalist mindset, and once he finally stepped away, he truly felt the magnitude of his pain. As John Green wrote, “pain demands to be felt.” Hyram also shares what prompted him to start his skincare brand and the importance to him of doing something in the industry that would create a philanthropic affect. His products have a direct and measurable social impact. To date, he has been able to protect over 300, 000 acres of rainforest from deforestation and provide over 8, 000 people with clean water—for 50 years. This conversation radiates with love and kindness, and we hope you will join us in supporting Hyram’s incredible efforts.  Visit selflessbyhyram.com and be sure to follow @hyram on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Plus, be sure to check out Hyram’s dream partnership, Kiva.org.  Thanks to our awesome sponsors for making this episode possible:   BetterHelp — This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/thesqueeze and get on your way to being your best self  To email us your questions or share your story, you can reach out to [e-mail].  Be sure to rate, review, and follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode! Plus, follow us on Instagram, @thesqueeze and personally @taylautner and @taylorlautner. To learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow @lemonsbytay on Instagram and visit lemonsbytay.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Little lemon drops, welcome back to another episode of The Squeeze. Have you called them lemon drops before? No, I don't know. I was thinking about it when I was driving today. I was like, ooh, I want to. I kind of like that, but if you're listening and you don't feel like you are a lemon drop, let us know and I'll make sure my wife doesn't call you that again. I feel like that would be like a cute community is like lemon drops.

You know, other podcasts, they have like names for their listeners. Lemon drops. Remember like lemon drops? I love that. I'm super excited about this episode. because we have one of the biggest skin... Skin care? Skin guru.

I forgot to say that word. Skin care gurus? A skincare guru on Mr. Hiram. I was so excited to have him because I've been watching his stuff on TikTok for a very long time. He was so lovely. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was great. I loved having him.

It's a total sweetheart. Had a great vocabulary. Oh, my gosh. I need to like, yeah, I want to do it. a vocab class with him. He made me feel not smart. Oh, no. No, he was fantastic. So sweet, so kind, has such a big heart. What he's doing with his skincare line is just absolutely incredible. We learned a lot about his background from his family to even just his background in skin care. What I really like is so many people nowadays, like so many people have skincare lines. So many people have makeup lines.

whatever it is, but he actually has a history in skincare. Yeah, he came from skin care. Yeah. That's what he did as a job. Yeah. Before. So he, like, actually knows what he's talking about. He's not just, like, making a skincare line because everyone else is.

Yeah. Which I loved and appreciate. Yeah. Because you can tell he's super passionate about it. Yeah. But he was also vulnerable and, you know, talked about his upbringing and been through a lot. and really just had a lot of great advice. Yeah, I thought so.

Yeah, so it was great to sit down with him. And I can say I didn't, I didn't know who he was beforehand. But my sister and Tay were like, you don't know who Hiram is. And I was like, sorry, but I'm also not on TikTok. But now I can say I am truly a fan of Fizz. Yeah. Yeah. So hope you enjoy listening to our chat with Mr. Hiram.

Yeah. And, uh, run the tape. We'll catch you on the other side. Welcome to the squeeze. Hiram. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be with you guys.

I'm such a fan of the podcast. And I love what you guys are doing. So thank you for considering me, seriously. Oh my gosh. We are such fans of you. And I literally before, when the email came in, I was like, wait, I know him. Like, literally I was like, I've seen his videos all over TikTok. So that was a fun little, like, little surprise that happened.

We're so thankful to have you. But as you know, we start our episodes with a little game called Citrus Got Real if you would like to pull out a little piece of paper from there. Of course. Drum roll. Oh my gosh. Okay. Do people drink or eat soup? Oh.

Very passionate about this answer. This is actually a very passionate one for Taylor. But before I tell you, I want to hear your answer. Oh, man. I feel like I'm going to be judged for whatever response I have. I would say honestly, drink soup. Because after I finish a soup, I would like lift the bowl to my mouth and then like drink it. But if it's like a really thick soup that I can spoon, then eat.

Yeah. But I don't know. What do you guys think? I feel that. I'll let you. You're the passionate one about this one. No, I agree. If it's like a chili or something, that is more of a eat.

Yeah. But I'm actually I don't really mind I'm not super passionate about this answer I just even whether it's a chili whatever soup I drink it out of a mug so I don't I do because it's in a mug yeah so I would say drink but I mean he loves a mug he never puts soup in a bowl really always even if it's like yeah even if it is chili I'll like scoop myself a bowl and he'll grab a mug and put it in a mug I'm like but why And sometimes if it's too thick, I'll use a spoon with the mug to get stuff out of the bottom. But always soup in a mug for me.

I'm about to go home and try that right now. I really want to see that sounds innovative. It's just cozier. Yeah. You're right. It does, it does feel cozy. He always, like, he'll heat up broth in the morning or, like, at night when we're watching our thing and he'll, like, sip his warm. I guess it's kind of like tea.

I mean, I had matzo ball soup out of a mug this morning. You did. There you go. Yeah. I technically had it out of a mug, too. yesterday. Wow. Hey.

Rubbing off on you. Yeah, you are inspiring me. No, that sounds really cool. I kind of want to actually try it. You should. You might have inspired me on a new journey in life. Yeah. Yeah.

I think you'll enjoy it. Your soup, soup eating experience is about to be changed for the better. Elevated. Yeah. Can't wait. Oh, my gosh. So I want to kind of just start from the beginning.

How long have you been making your videos? What kind of like inspired you to start doing that? Yeah, for sure. So I started back in 2017. originally just posting content on YouTube. I previously worked as a skincare specialist and I worked in like as a cosmetic salesman and makeup artist as well.

So I was able to really get a good grasp of like what people were spending money on in the skincare space. And I was seeing people drop over $1,000 on a single skincare product. And I was like, what are in these products that would make people want to spend that much money? There's a skincare product that costs $1,000? $1,400 was one that was, in the environment that I was working in as a makeup artist. And I was like, this better have the

sweat of Jesus. And it or something like magical. You can buy a laptop. I need to buy a laptop. I'm like, you don't have to say the brand, but like what what is the product? That's the thing. Like I was like, what makes this so special and like unique that it would justify that? And what's worse, I was seeing people saying, well, I want good skin and I want the best. So they would spend that much money having no idea what was in it and not even being able to try it out and test it like makeup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So when I looked at the ingredient list, I was like, this is not worth it. Like maybe I would pay like 50 bucks for this moisturizer, but no more. And then I saw that online, there weren't really resources for people to better navigate, like, the shopping space when it came to skincare. And there was a big lack of education as well that the regular consumer could understand. So I started creating videos where I was like, let me break down skin care. care. Let me make it simplified. Wasn't consistent with it until right before COVID was when I was like, you know what? I've built a little community. I think it was like a thousand followers. I was like,

okay. Like, you know, I've built this little community. I'm going to start creating more content. And then when COVID happened, and I think everyone collectively needed that self-care ritual in kind of the chaotic time of the pandemic, that's really where I saw my content start to grow and better yet people really seeing significant changes in their skin and from the products they purchase. So it's been quite a journey, but it's been amazing. Oh my gosh. I love skincare personally. My mom's an ascetician. So I've grown up with skincare. And I always say like skincare is my favorite form of self-care because there's just like so many things you can do with that there's so many types of skincare, so many fun little products and things to try. So I resonate with that so much. And it's so cool

that you like come from experience with it because so often, you know, people just I'm going to talk about this, you know, and get there. Exactly. Which I mean, I don't really solicit that much advice, but, you know, a lot of people are just like, this, this is the product, this is this. But you actually, like, know the ingredients. Like, you worked in that field. So that's really cool. It's always a process of learning, you know, but my goal is to not recommend what has worked for my skin, but more so what will work for everyone's skin or personal, like, skin concerns.

So that's always the goal. I'm always learning every day. Yeah. In 2019, that's like around when you started doing the videos. Yep. And you went from 50,000 subscribers to 500,000 in under two weeks. Yeah. Right?

And then later that year, over a million. Yeah. I don't impress you know that. I do my homework. I love it. I hate the term like overnight success, overnight fame. Because, I mean, 99% of it. of the people have no idea like what you've done to get to that point.

Yeah, the work you put in. Like, all of a sudden I did this little franchise called Twilight and people were like, overnight fame. I'm like, it wasn't over night. I've been doing this as I was eight. I was like, yeah. I literally started when I was eight years old and like busting my butt for the last decade. But that was in 2019 for you a big change.

how was that shift for you? Like, how did it affect you? And I don't know. How did you deal with it? Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I consider myself very fortunate that it did happen during the pandemic. Of course, awful time, like horrible. But I am grateful that my growth kind of elevated during that time period

because there was a large mental disconnect between what was happening online versus reality. Like in reality, I was still like sitting on the ground filming my videos with my iPhone and my bedroom. Nothing was different. But online I'm seeing like all this like explosive growth. And it happens so rapidly because I remember there was like one day where like on TikTok I got like 800,000 followers in a day.

And when it happens that quickly, it kind of desensitizes you a little bit to it because you're like, I can't fathom that like scale. But I'm really grateful that it did happen there because I think it allowed me to feel a more genuine, authentic connection with my followers and not be distracted by some of the other things that can come along with being an overnight success, quote unquote. Like it allowed me to just keep on making content and connecting with my subscribers in the same way that I had always had. I'd say the transition was a little more difficult coming out of COVID because that's when

it was like being recognized in public. Right. My address got leaked. I was, you know, like minor stocking situations, stuff like that, which was just a change, you know? And I'm so, so grateful for everything that has happened. But it was a little bit of a paradigm shift coming out of the pandemic and being like, whoa, okay, this is real life.

This is not just things that are happening online and these are real people. And that's when I noticed, like, the social anxiety and the nervousness and the overthinking and all those things. start to come with it. Yeah. At that point. So I don't know. That was my personal experience. I mean, I'm sure you can relate as well.

I can, yeah, definitely, definitely relate. For sure. Can we've, through my homework, I've read some interviews and stuff you've talked about this. Oh, thank you. For listeners that haven't, could you tell us a little. bit more about your childhood and growing up. Was it Arizona? Yeah. Wow. Good memory, man. And just family life and that world that you grew up in and how it affected you and then inspired you to be the person

that you are sitting on this couch today because I find it very inspiring. Thank you. I really appreciate that. And thanks for looking into my story. I mean, Yeah, you know, my childhood, I was raised in a very traditionalist religious environment to a lot of extremes where there was kind of no capacity for understanding anyone who doesn't fall within the traditionalist Christian worldview. Yeah. And, you know, growing up gay, it was extremely isolating from the beginning, realizing that what I felt within myself and what I felt didn't align with the religious views that were essentially. imposed on me would mean that I wouldn't have a place within my home and there wouldn't be a relationship of love between my family and I. So it led to a lot of difficulties, specifically surrounding mental health growing up, which was, you know, really challenging. But I'm grateful

for those experiences because I think it did turn me into a much stronger person than I ever would have had I just kind of caved and stuck with. the teachings that had been imposed on me from a young age. And then being able to, I moved from Arizona to Hawaii. How old were you? I was, I think I'd just turned 18. Okay. And so it was to originally start college. And I moved to Hawaii. I didn't know anyone there. I'd never been, just went by myself. And it was so difficult, but so incredible to have kind of like a fresh start. But at the same time, I love the quote. I'm not sure if you guys read Fall on Our Stars. but there's a quote that says pain demands to be felt.

And I resonate with that quote so much because I think growing up in the very traumatizing and chaotic home environment throughout my childhood, my only focus was just push through, get through, like survive, you know? Yeah. Once I was able to leave that environment, I think all that pain demanded to be felt. And that's really where I felt the repercussions of the mental health side effects from being raised in an environment like that. But being able to move through those things, go to therapy.

do everything that you talk about in this podcast, you know, which is why I love this podcast so much. I was really able to channel that into the work I do and specifically for content creation. Yeah. And also share my story in hopes that it would, you know, help other people as well. So very transformative experience with a lot of pain, but I'm in a weird way grateful for it. I wouldn't want to go through it again. Yeah. But I'm grateful for it, you know.

For sure. I say, I mean, obviously very, very different scenario, but I always say this. same thing. Like I worked as a COVID nurse and if I hadn't have gone through that, had the PTSD from it dealt with everything that I did working through that. I wouldn't be like doing this today. So no, I don't want to go back. But I'm so thankful for it because it shaped me. I mean, you could say the same thing about your career too, you know. It shaped me into the person I am and I'm like doing what I love and I get to help people, which is like the same thing that you're doing too. So it's it's really cool. So something as you guys know.

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When you're in a very high-stress, chaotic environment that you, don't have time to process anything. Exactly. When you're removed, you're like, oh, things are going to be good. I'm removed. And then it just hits you. Like a ton of breaks. When I left the hospital, I was like, oh, things are going to be great. And then I was just like on another planet. I was like, what is happening? Like, things are supposed to be easier. So I feel like that is just so applicable to so many different walks of life that that's why it's so important for us, you know, to have like the tools, even if we're like, oh, you know, like I'm not dealing with my mental health, like it's fine to have tools or to have a resource for like when you remove yourself,

when something comes up. Exactly. That you're well, well prepared. Yeah. That's why I love what you guys are doing because I remember in the middle of my specific struggles, which are largely struggled with restrictive eating disorder, self-harm and suicidal ideations in like the darkest period of my life. I remember going online and looking for like resources or like any like the recommendations that people had, tips that would be helpful. And the only thing I could find online was like entering a treatment facility or, you know, at that point in time, you know, like seeing a specialized therapist, which I was like, I don't have access to. I'm a broke college student. I can't do that. And I so desperately wanted guidance and advice, but couldn't find it anywhere. Nowadays, I feel like there's so many resources, like thanks to social media. And also, you know, like, thanks to what you guys are doing, like talking about mindfulness and just having the conversations around mental health, I think. is so impactful and definitely something I wish I would have had in the middle of my struggles.

Would you say it was after you move to Hawaii at 18 that it kind of all hit you that you went through like those darkest times? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Because I think, you know, in the middle of the chaos of my home environment, you know, I really entered a survivalist mindset where I had no capacity to process the trauma, process the lack of love. And I knew that, I think subconsciously, I knew that if I did, I would just break down and be a mess and it would be a terrible situation and only further put me at risk of, you know, not being accepted within my home. After I moved to Hawaii and settled and I was like, okay, I'm by myself, I'm doing my own thing. Life seems good. once I think the body exits that survivalist state and is able to feel rest for the first time,

I think that's when a lot of the trauma that you've experienced in the past comes to the forefront and where you really have to deal with it. And unfortunately, I didn't start off by being like, I'll go to a therapist and I'll get help because I had a lot of stigma towards that. So I turned to my only known coping mechanisms of which I described before to process that. And it wasn't a while until I started going to therapy and actually getting, you know, professional help for what I was experiencing. But yeah, funny enough, like, I would think due to the toxic environment of my childhood that I would be feeling the brunt of the mental health impact. But exactly what you were saying with like your experience at the hospital.

When you're in just the day to day, you're like, I can't even, I can't even think about that. I can't even let myself process that. I just need to focus on getting through the next day and surviving. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, you understand how difficult. I'm like both of you, once you get to a place of rest where you're like, oh my God, what are all these things that I'm feeling? I'm feeling so, you know, emotional and depressed and what is all of this? So, I mean, I admire that you were able to like pick, pick yourself up after that too, because I love your story. Like working as a COVID nurse, like, wow, I can't even imagine the things that you've seen and the fact that you have not only gotten to this point, but want to help other people in that way too is just proud of you. That's awesome. First, did you, when you moved and all that happened, did you lose complete contact with your family? Yeah.

Well, okay, so kind of. I definitely, when I moved, was like, keeping my family at arms, like, distance because I couldn't handle any more involvement. And during that really transformative period of my life, that's when I was really able to come to terms with my sexuality as well. And I knew that it was something that would never be accepted. So I limited communication as much as I could with my parents until I was ready, had gone to therapy, had been really honest with myself about who I was in every capacity, let alone, you know, my sexuality as well. And then when I did open up to my parents and, you know, revealed that I wasn't going to be a part of the church and I was gay, they essentially disowned me, which eliminated all contact.

And so that experience was super different. but it gave me, I always love to look at, I try to as best as I can, look at like trials and obstacles as like opportunities for growth as much as I can. And I was able to learn that by, you know, not having a relationship with members of your family anymore, you're able to welcome in other people who can truly support you and want what's best for you and inspire you to be better. and in a way I was kind of grateful that I didn't have to be tethered to that toxic influence where there was so much mistreatment and it gave me the opportunity to really select the people that I want in my life who can inspire it with me to be as good as I can.

So communication was like off and on and then after that it's just completely eliminated with at least my parents. Some of my siblings I'm still in contact with and it's great. But yeah, it was really a learning lesson, a girl. opportunity for me. Did anything happen or shift after you in 2019 absolutely blow up online and are everywhere you can go on the internet? You know, I don't really know. So there wasn't really any relationship dynamic shift because I haven't had communication with my parents since that experience, I haven't really noticed if there has been a change of tune. In a weird way, I hope that

there's not really, because I would hope something as trivial as online success or attention would be the thing that, you know, changes your mind as opposed to just like loving your own child, you know? Yeah, that's so true. But I'm not really sure because there hasn't been communication since then. There hasn't been any apologies or, any attempt to repair that relationship per se. And I think I'm at a point where I'm like, you know what? I'm doing just good. I love the people in my life.

I feel so much more free and better than I did during that very dark period in my life. And I don't even, I'm very selective about who I let in my circle. Are you guys as well? Yeah. I mean, we are in our close circle. We definitely have a close little group. I mean, luckily, I didn't, because I mean, I didn't grow up in the spotlight at all. So I randomly just only had like a couple friends.

Like I didn't have a lot of friends growing up. So I have like honestly my friends that I grew up with, I'm so close with like five girls that I grew up with. That's cool. From like preschool kindergarten that, you know. So I feel like me growing up already kind of like that kind of prepared me to like being married to someone like Taylor where especially like when we first started dating. We'd go out to places and Taylor be like, oh, this is my girlfriend. And they'd be like, hi.

And then just like start talking. and Taylor. So he he's been having to deal with, you know, keeping a circle close and being selective and definitely trusting of people for a lot longer than me. But it's been something that I for sure learned. But I was, I was thinking about that too, you know, because we know people that didn't have a relationship with their parents, whether whatever reason it was for. And then they're on the TV screen and they're like, oh, hi. So, yeah, just me rolling my eyes. It's just very ridiculous. I mean, I feel like once you become a lot more aware of your mental health, you become very, and I don't know, you can say if you resonate with this, but you become very selective about the type of energy and the type of people that you want to let into your life because you know you can so easily be impacted by that. And so even when I see people who continue to have a relationship with their parents, but it's just toxicity or abuse and all that. I'm just like, oh, man, like, that's so not worth it to me. I really want to protect my spirit and my energy, you know, and become selective about who I lend to my. life. Yeah, that made me think of that I've learned that recently. I've always been a people

pleaser, but recently I've really been, like, selective of my sleep. I also feel like nursing. I'd like now like protect my sleep so much. But we were at our friend's birthday party and there was a lot of people there that I didn't know and some of our close friends. I've been there for an hour and I've turned to Taylor. I was like, I think I'm going to go home. He was like, what? I was like, yeah, I saw my friends. I'm just, I'm just kind of tired. I think I'm going to leave. And like, no fomo, no nothing like all my friends taylor ended up coming home with two our friends that stayed over at like two a m i left at like 10 30 got into my bed wash my face so i feel like learning to like protect my time or if you know i'm not feeling good in an environment knowing that the feelings aren't like

because i'm afraid of the environment because you know we don't want fear to hold us back but more so like okay like actually my social battery is done i think i is better for everyone if i just leave but i literally left it everyone's like you're like you're like I was like, yeah, I'm going to go to bed. They're like, what? I don't know. I don't know for this new, this new version of me is, but she enjoys her sleep. That's for sure.

I love it. I love it. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so let's get into your skincare. What prompted you to start it? before that, even when I was small, so many comments I would get would be like, start your own skincare brand. And I was like, there's so many products out there. Yeah. I don't really know if like, I don't want to contribute something that isn't innovative or doesn't offer a unique value that you

aren't able to find in the marketplace. Yeah. And obviously I have my standards around ingredients and the specific formulas and ingredients that I recommend to my audience in order to make sure that they're accessible to as many people as possible. Yeah. But with my brand, I noticed when in the cosmetic industry. I was like, there is so much money in the industry. There's so much wealth. It's wild. And I was like, I don't see enough of it being channeled towards something good, like making the world a better place, philanthropy, which has always been my passion. And before I started on YouTube, I always wanted to primarily work for non-profits. That was a nonprofit consultant. So that was always my passion. I was like, I really want to do something in the industry that would,

you know, create a philanthropic effect. Yeah. And then I was like, okay, what if I were to combine social change with skincare where every single product you use has a direct measurable social impact that, you know, helps the world? And that's when I was like, okay, okay, I'm liking this idea, but we'll see. I started working on it on my own and with Mia as well, my production assistant. And I was able to partner with a company called The Inky List who really believed in my idea, who then we were able to partner with Sephora who really believed in my idea and then now Target. And it's been incredible. Like I love the skincare aspect, of course, like the benefits people are seeing, the changes in their skin, how it's helping and improve

their confidence. Like, that's amazing. But what really truly like makes me happy is like we've been able to protect over 300,000 acres of rainforest from deforestation in Bolivia and provide over 8,000 people with clean drinking water for 50 years. So like that social impact is really what drives me and makes me so passionate about the brand. But yeah, yeah, it's, it's, ever since I launched Selfless, it's just been a chaotic, a wonderful journey. Yeah. Wonderful chaos. I always say that. Exactly. I'm so busy. I'm so stressed, but it's so great. It's doing stuff that you love. But there's so many skincare companies. There's so many makeup brands that people just like start because they're like, I want to do this, but I love people that have, like, meaning behind why they're doing it or are passionate about it.

So I feel like that's what's so cool about your brand is like, yeah, it's skincare. Yeah, it works. But also, like, there's such a more impactful meaning behind it. Yeah. Do they have different charities attached to different products? Yeah, exactly. So we partnered with two charities because I really wanted to identify, like, if my brand is going to have an impact, I want it to be as impactful as possible on, like, kind of the biggest issue. she's facing our world right now, which we narrowed down to, of course, every issue is equally,

like, it's so important. There's a lot going on. There's so much. And good help is get up, you know, yeah. But the global water crisis, we're still, you know, tens of millions of people around the world don't have access to clean drinking water, which is impacting women's and children as education, job force, community involvement, because they have to spend hours a day walking to fetch water that is oftentimes not clean. So, you know, I wanted it to have an impact. So we partnered with Thirst Project where some of the products from the range, for every product you purchase, one person is provided with clean drinking water for one year. And then for the Rainforest Trust, which is the other organization we work with, they partner with governments to protect zones

of their country from deforestation forever. So rather than trying to work with individual-like companies and all of that, which tends to not be very effective in preserving rainforest because climate change is, you know, the biggest issue impacting not only our survival, but just the benefit of the world. Yeah. We figured protecting rainforest from deforestation in the first place is kind of the best impact that can be made. So by purchasing the Rainforest Trust products, you're protecting acres from deforestation forever.

So those are the charities we partnered with, hopefully more in the future. But as of right now, it's cool to see that impact come from something you wouldn't really expect, which is skincare products. Yeah. Yeah. It makes it so much more fun. And I know there's like a meeting or like a project behind a product. I'm like, oh, I'm going to, you know, spend my $5 on that. Not that because I know like my money is going to something to better the world and help people.

Yeah. Is there like a foundation or a company that you want to work with like in that field? Great question. Have you heard of Kiva? I feel like you will love Kiva. So Kiva is an online microloan portal. So they have representatives all around the globe who go into like super remote communities and interview community members, gauging like what their biggest needs are. And then they will create a page on Kiva.com where you can contribute to a microloan. So you can go by country and see like this group of 50 women are trying to purchase. five cows in order to sell milk that can support their families and their business. And you can see the pictures of them. You can read their story. You donate like five, 10, $25. And then over the course of like a year, a year and a half, they'll pay it back to you. And then you can reinvest that money into more microloans for people all around the world. It is so cool. Like absolutely incredible. And you can see the change that's being made. They'll update you on what the progress of

projects or the impact is. You can see their actual faces. You love that. So. So. So. That's who I would love to partner with. That's always been the dream. We'll see.

But I highly recommend you check them out. And for anyone who's listening to it. We'll tag him in the show notes. Kiva, where are you at? Yeah, I know. Right. That's awesome. So we'll head into our little Lemon 11 segment.

11 questions that we have that are about mental health, wellness, all little things. I love these questions. Number one. What movie or song title best describes your mental health today? So I've heard you ask other guests this, and I was really thinking about it. And it's called Smiling When I Die by Alex Sasha Earl, something. I forget the name of this. I know who you're talking about.

Sasha Sloane, right? Okay, Sasha Sloat. It's the only song I know by her. I need to listen to more of her work. But the lyrics of the song are essentially about making every day as best as you can, like connecting with friends, spending time outdoors, going on trips. so that you're smiling when you die, you know, so that you live life with no regrets. I always listen to it when I need like a little bit of motivation,

because I think it's kind of like a beautiful message of like, make the most out of every day, you know, like take advantage so that you can live life with no regrets. Yeah. I need to look up this song. I don't know if it's very popular. I randomly found out on Spotify and I was like, ooh, add to playlist. Definitely going to listen. Okay.

Number two. How open are you with? people in your life when you're struggling? This is a good question. I have a difficulty with opening up a lot of times. And thankfully, I have a therapist who I can just like, that's kind of their role. I have difficulty with people in my life because I always want to be that person that's like, let's go.

Life is great. Woo, woo. And so in the past, I've definitely gotten to a point where the only time I really open up is when it's like mental health is like really, really bad and I'm like getting concerned because I do tend to like close myself off. But it's something that I'm working on, getting better at. Like I have multiple people in my life who I'm able to like really be vulnerable with and share like when I am struggling so that they can provide support or even just, you know, be a listening ear, which is super helpful as well.

So it's a work in progress. But it's way better than it used to be, which is what matters to me. Always a work in progress. There's no, there's no hill that gets conquered. It's just learn to work with it. Exactly. Number three, what is your, I'm actually very excited about this one and it's probably going to lean into a 3B. What is your favorite part of your morning or night routine?

Oh, yes. Okay. I mean, obviously, skincare is my favorite thing. Like, of course, I love the ingredients and the science. But what I love just as much is the ritual of self-care and meditative experience that you have when you're applying. your skincare products because I like to, I don't take a long time to get ready, but for my skincare, I'm like, I don't want to rush it. I want it to just be slow. I want to, you know, just really focus on taking care of myself in that moment because it's hard when you're busy, you know,

like, and you just have so many different things going throughout the day. It's hard to find those pockets of self-care. But morning and night, it's a great way to prep myself for the day. It's a great way to, you know, kind of relax at the end of the night. I would love to hear your skincare routine. Yeah. Oh man, this is always such a loaded question because it's always changing. I am, you know, a skincare addict a little bit. So I just want to be trying new products to find what I can recommend. As of right now, who, okay, so the self-less my hair, I'm Sintelaclenser, because whenever I'm like traveling and enter new like humidity and environments, that's the one that I can count on to just always cleanse my skin, be good. For a serum, the Notorium niacinamide serum. is bay. It's my favorite. Do you use Nicon Mine? I think I have it in, I have it in one of my. What is that? Yeah. I'm excited to Taylor. So it's basically like the ingredient that can do everything. It strengthens the moisture barrier. It reduces redness and sensitivity. It's tolerated by pretty much even the most sensitive of skin, which is why I think you might be interested in it.

It fades hyperpigmentation and dark spots. It controls excess oiliness, balances sebum. It just, and it works well with every other ingredient. It's. It's like that ingredient. It's my love. So you should definitely try it if you have really sensitive skin because that always calms my redness and sensitivity. Okay. But yeah, I use nice in my serum.

And then for moisturizer, I've been using because my skin's been a little dry, the skin fixed triple a bit barrier peptide cream. Oh, super rich, moisturizing. Sorry if this is like not even connecting with you. Oh. If you know these products. I'm enjoying it. I just love hearing about products.

My skin has been so dry recently. Oh, no. need some of them. Here, I'll send you one of the skin fixed ones because it's a life changer and super good for a sensitive skin too. So you would definitely like it. And then Bliss blocks our sunscreen because you need sunscreen every single day. You do need sunscreen. Do you both wear sunscreen if I may have?

See, she's pretty good about it because her mom like hammers it home. I'm not very good about it. Yeah. That's okay. Should I get better? I think you should, especially to combat sensitivity. I think it'd be the best. If you have to use just one product, I always say,

at least just use this on screen. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, that's basically, that's the whole routine. I love it. I love your routine. Thank you. You do.

He's like a religious under eye person. You haven't used them recently, so I don't think that's why you're underneath. But he always loves like, you like the masks and the... Like masks and eye patches and all that kind of fun. And facials. He loves the facial. Oh, a good facial.

Nice. I mean, his skin is so nice. You'd think he has a 12-step routine. All right. All right. Nice question. Number four. How is your career impacted your well-being?

Hmm. This is a question. This is a loaded question. It's a little bit tricky. Like, mental health has been a constant, like, work in progress with this career specifically because I think first and foremost having a following online or, you know, whether you're in the entertainment industry or a large recognizability factor, humans, you know, we're tribal creatures. We are only meant to be able to like mentally process like 30 to 50 people.

Any more than that, it's just not natural to what we are used to. And so trying to process the expectations, pressures, and intensity of so many people. around the world definitely, you know, plays a toll on the good old mental health. So, well-being overall, you know, I have tried to improve a lot when I first was growing online. I was non-stop working. Like, I've always prided myself in being a workhorse, but it was so unhealthy. And I had a completely codependent relationship with my work life because I was pulling three all-nighters a week sometimes, you know, just from the second I woke up at 6 a.m. until 2 a.m. working, not thinking about anything else, and it was horrific for my well-being overall.

But I was so excited because I wanted to help people, you know, like help people improve their skin and, you know, really build this. And lately it's been improved a lot. Like, I'm actually getting full night's sleep now, which may seem minor, but I'm like, whew, you know, got to celebrate the small steps. I've been focusing a lot more on mindfulness, a lot more on, you know, prioritizing time with my therapist and mental health. But within this career, it is a it's a tricky thing because it's really just not what we're supposed to be mentally processing. Yeah. I say that all the time.

And my mom and I once had a conversation and she was like, why is like mental health? So like, why do so many of your friends have depression or why do so many? She grew up with her generation did too, but they didn't talk about it as much. But I also think that social media has such a big part. heart in our life. I mean, it does, but in our mental well-being, like, we're not made to be constantly, like, our brain isn't supposed to fire that much. Like, we need the time to rest and time to unplug. And, like, I've, I've set such a, like, hard boundary of, like, I don't even look at comments off the time because, like, I've just learned to not even, I don't look at my, I'll peak sometimes,

especially now because it's been a lot of positive stuff and we'll have people that comment on our videos. I'm like, I love the podcast. I know you want to. see this comment because you don't look. So I'm trying to look a little more. But yeah, you got to protect your mental health. Yeah. And it's such like a, it almost gives you such a high. It's hard to, it's hard to stop.

Like, you're like, oh, this video got a lot of use. Okay, I got to make more. And then that one didn't do good. You're like, oh, crap, then I did something wrong. Let me make three more videos to like try to, you know, make up for it. Like, I remember you talking in a previous episode about, you know, the initial rush that you really experience. And then the aftermath of what that feels like

when you are so used to that, whether you being in this career or even on a smaller scale, like using it on social media, those constant dopamine heads of looking at the comments and seeing the attention and all those kinds of things

and, you know, innately valuing yourself based off of those parameters, which I think you're doing such a good job of like keeping, you know, boundaries in place to not let it get to that point. It can really affect your mental health when your, you know, posts aren't performing as well, when you're not growing as fast as you used to, when there's, you know, a lack of interest, whatever it may be, which is where I think

self-value is really important. But I think that applies just like you're saying on a day-to-day basis with using social media, like the constant comparisons that whether we consciously or not, you know, internalize by using social media, it's, you know, we got to get off of it. Even though I'm a content creator on social media, I'm like, get off social media people, like, I know. Find a balance with mental health. Yeah. Some people were like, did you see or you'll be like, did you see so-and-so's post?

I'm like, no, because I've literally like social media has become my job. I literally will just post my thing and then I won't look. Like I'll just get off. I'm like, there was a point in time where I was like so busy with it. And I was like, I was like, I don't even want to scroll through this right now because I'm just over posting. I'm over like having to deal with this. Now it's better because I kind of slowed down with it. But oh, I'm doing the odd.

You're doing the odd. I keep forgetting. Okay. I don't know if I like this. Number five, what is the most misunderstood thing about you? I try to be as like genuine of a person as possible. Like what you see is like what you get. I'd say like maybe misunderstood is that like I don't know,

I'm really passionate about music and connecting to music. I'm actually working on producing EDM music right now. So I've been in music production because I like love the world of EDM and the community there and just the type of music. And people usually don't expect that. They're like, what? You like that stuff? But I love it.

I think it just can inspire and connect to people in so many different ways that words just can't. So super passionate about music. That's kind of like I obviously want to continue doing this for as long as I possibly can. But like, I would also love to like get into the music production world space. So usually people don't expect that. But that's about it. I think besides that, I try to just be an open. book as much as I possibly can, so there's no misunderstandings.

Yeah. I secretly love EDM. What, no way. Not secretly. Okay, maybe not secretly. I'm just like, I'm not like a master. Like, I probably couldn't get into a conversation about it with you. Yeah.

But I enjoy it. I love it. There's so many different styles that I think resonate with so many people. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. I love EDM brs. What's like the big EDM like festival?

EDC? Is that? In Vegas? It's one in Vegas. Yeah, where like 700,000 people go. It's like, Whoa. Huge.

Yeah. I have been before. You have? Yeah, it was cool. It's just a very wholesome experience where you see people who just like love the music for the music and appreciate it,

which I think is great because it kind of, it's just a very unique environment as opposed to like a singer or something like that where they're kind of the focal point. I feel like people just, just go for just the genuine love of like the music. I don't know. I really connect with it.

I would love to go. Yeah, you should. I'm thinking you would not. I would go. I like live music. Yeah, but sometimes I play EDM stuff and you literally will just press. No, it's when it's like the really like that like thing and I'm like stressed or I'm in a mood. Like if I'm anxious at all and he tries to like play that, then I'm like, can we just?

I'm also like a silence person as of recently. I'm a dancer. I grew up dancing. So I love music. But I feel like as of recently silence, I literally, I will, I drive, I'll drive two hours in silence with nothing. But I also, we'll do the opposite and sing for two hours in the car. So it's very mood-based. So I do like EDM.

My dad would be so sad at me. My dad loves EDM music. He's so funny. There you go. Just not the Waw-W-W-W. Just not the W-W-W-N. I'm just not the wah-wana. Not what I'm anxious.

Okay, number six. See, I haven't read these before. I know. I feel weird. I don't like, can we go back? I also like even numbers more than non-numbers. Okay.

No, no, no, no. I mean, after. Okay, okay. Next episode. What is the greatest advice you have ever received? That's a really good question. You know, I, I couldn't really think of, like,

I couldn't tell you, like, what someone has necessarily specifically, like, said to me. But there's, I'm not sure if you have read Tao Dishing by Lao Tzu. It's essentially like the Bible, if you will, of Taoism. So very similar to like Buddhism.

I resonate with a lot of like the teachings of Taoism, which is essentially mindfulness based living completely. And the quote is roughly, the one I repeat to myself is like, I do not think of the future. I do not regret the past, which is really helpful for me because with my anxiety and my depression, I tend to be completely fixated on, oh my gosh, what's going to happen in the future? I have to prepare myself and I have for work or depression of dwelling on the past.

It's like, oh, I shouldn't have done that? Oh, I regret doing that. Like, why did I do this? And for the majority of my life, I've completely neglected the present, which is where the most meaning and peace can be found from what I've really learned, especially practicing mindfulness. And so I will repeat that quote to myself all the time as a way to kind of like center

and I guess it's like a grounding technique to just really help me focus on like, okay, live for right now, be in the present, focus on how you're currently feeling and don't fixate on these other things because whatever happens in the future will happen, can't change the past. It's useless to be

stressing out about those things, you know? So that I'd say is like the best advice I've been given. Yeah. I love that. We've kind of been talking about that on on the lemons by Tay account just like what's in what's what you can control what you can't control yep and I feel like I resonate with that stuff so much because the stuff that we tend to worry about is the stuff that we can't control yeah so it's just like you have to just be constantly reminding yourself like I can't dwell on the things that I literally can't even change that I can't

affect those all I like I need to focus my energy on what I can't control yeah Yeah. And man, it is so freeing to just be fully present. Like once you're able to tap into that, which I only, to be honest, recently learned about that. I recently started practicing like more meditation. And, and wow, like once you're able to enter that state of like, not going to worry about the future, not going to think about the past, I'm just going to be fully present and maximize what's happening right now. It is like huge burdens are like taken off of you. And it's such a freeing experience that everyone deserves to feel. Have you ever done a sound bath? I have actually recently. I've done a few but recently did one. Not going to lie, I knocked out for like 15 minutes. Oh yeah. Maybe like 30 minutes.

I think it was like an hour long sound bath. But I love sound baths because you entered that like theta state in between like being awake and being asleep. Yeah. Man, it just feels like you are floating outside your body. Yeah. He did one for a long. Are you found? We did a little.

I was. It was my first one like two. weeks ago. Oh, nice. She did one for a Lemon's event and I was like, I'm going to come to support my wife, but I'm going to be bored to tears during these two soundbaths. He does not sit still good at all. He's horrible on sitting still. So I was a little nervous. But we, and we did two of them back to back. And there were, there were 70 or 75 minute soundbaths. Wow. And we did like two back to back. And I loved it. And I want to go as soon as there's another class. I know. He keeps telling me, can you look and see when the next one is?

Can you look and see? But I love sound bass. I feel like it's just like the first 20 minutes from me are always like my brain's going crazy and then I'll like calm down and it's either I sleep or I like have these crazy like I'll like start to remember things that I forgot. Like I feel like my memory comes back or I'll have like epiphanies. Like think like two times ago I came home from one and I was like. babe, this, this, this, this.

I thought about this. Maybe this is why I do this. He was like, wait, what the frick happened is? I thought you were supposed to go take a nap. It's transcendy. Like, it's really, it's like, it allows for any, like, organic free thought away from distractions. I feel you. Soundbouts are awesome.

I would take one every day if I could. Yeah. Listeners, if you haven't tried one, 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10 recommend. Number, I know, I almost just want to have you ready to give. Number seven, what does wellness mean to you? Mm. So I think wellness is prioritizing your physical and emotional needs above anything else that's happening, you know, in your life. I think we tend to just ignore the signs that our body or our mind is giving us by saying like, hey, we need relaxation. We need, you know, a break. We need rest, you know, time away. So I think wellness is anything that kind of like falls within that. I know for me personally, wellness is any experience that can provide me a peace. So my body and my mind peace. So going out in nature is a huge one for me. And I will say I'm not the type of person who's like, let me go sit on the beach and like meditate and like that's peaceful. I enjoy like active relaxation, I guess you can call it. It's like going on hikes, surfing. I'm a huge fan of surfing. Skying as well. Just spending time out in nature because I feel like that.

that's where my mind and my body can best connect. Yeah. And it's a really kinesthetic experience that allows my body to just kind of descend into a more peaceful state. And so it's not even, you know, necessarily connect to like skincare or stuff like that, which I think a lot of people think wellness is, which it definitely is. Yeah. I completely agree. But I know the most resounding wellness that I'm able to experience is when I can be in touch with my body and my mind at the same time. And I find that, like, you know, being in nature in that peaceful environment just is really beneficial to me.

Yeah. I love that. Yeah. I like to that. Can you teach me how to surf? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, hey, you got to come to Hawaii. I know. I got to get to Hawaii first. No worries. I just started. So I'm like happy to introduce you because it's intimidating. Yeah. I've only tried it once.

And I was like 10 years old. Oh, wow. The only time I've surfed was when I went to Hawaii at 9 years old. Oh, there you go. So, wow. You guys are overdue. Yeah. You need a surfing experience.

Absolutely. Number eight, what is your relationship with social media and do you think it affects your well-being? Yeah, absolutely. You know, my personal relationship, I try to set limits for myself on how much social media I'm consuming. And from a creator standpoint, like what you do too, I have learned over time to limit the comments that I read. because I've just noticed how much even just a negative comment will really just like hit you. And you can see so many positive comments. You see one negative comment.

It's like, oh, my gosh, you know. And I thought for a while that I was like, no, I'm tough. It's fine. I can like read all these negative comments and they won't affect me. But they really do. Like it's a hard thing to admit. And I've really had to limit that. I'm so grateful to my team, like specifically Mia who is here because if I'm like feeling down or freely

just kind of like overwhelmed from social media. She'll send me like positive comments that people have made where they're like, you help my skin so much, you help my confidence or whatever it may be, which helps to uplift my spirit. But I know that like overall, the less time I spend as a social media user, the more I kind of notice I'm less stressed and less anxious, which is kind of a funny paradox that I am a creator who's creating social media content at the same time I have to limit it. But I always want my content to be edifying, you know, like help people in their lives, help with their confidence around mental health as well with what I'm talking about. That's always the goal.

So I don't know. It's a weird. It's a weird in between the state, I would say. Yeah. How is your vocabulary so phenomenal? Oh, thank you. I mean, I am just, you've said about seven words so far. Then I'm just like, oh, that sounded nice.

I have no idea. I mean, I used to be that book kid. You know the kid that like after every quiz, they were like pulling out their book and like reading? That used to be me. Although I don't read as much anymore. I say like maybe that's the only thing. I don't know. It's stuck with you.

I try to do my best to make myself sound smarter than I actually am. I love it. Oh my gosh. Thank you though. I'm here for it. I love that. Okay. Number nine.

What is your favorite form of self-care? Oh, this is such good question. I mean, I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't say like skincare, definitely from both a passion and just a enjoying experience. Like having, you know, that experience and that ritual of just applying your skincare is so nice. But you know what's also a different one too, I found that one of the best things for my mental health, like when I'm feeling overwhelmed or stressed or anxious, whatever it may be, that's, turned into a self-care ritual is like going on a drive and listening to music. That is one of my favorite things that I love to do because it's, first of all, it forced me to be off my phone. So that's already self-care and of itself, you know, I have to be essentially fully present.

But if my mind does wander, it does so in a way that feels almost like meditation, especially if I'm listening to music or if I'm feeling emotionally overwhelmed, I can just cry it out or like, you know, get all my emotions out in that space. And it's like a safe space for me. So in a weird way, like I like commutes. Yeah. Because it offers that kind of like daily self-care is the same for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love commutes. Everybody's like, because we live, you know, a little bit outside of L.A. And everybody's like, you know, does the drive get to you? Do you like hate it? I'm like, no, I actually love it. Yeah. Yeah. And you'll even sometimes if we're home, if he's like flustered, he'll be like, I'm going to go drive.

And he'll just literally do like laps around the canyon, just like listening to me. It's true. I love it. Yeah. I love it. I very much relate to that. You do. Okay.

Number 10. Who has had the most positive impact on your mental health? Hmm. My first ever college roommate, when I was going through all my shit, I'm sorry, can I cuss on here? Yes, you can't. I forgot to ask that before. Yeah, when I was going through all of that, my college roommate, Okone, was the there for me throughout all of it, you know, parents disowning me, eating disorder struggles,

really dark places. He was there for me the entire time. And what was so helpful about him is that he wasn't trying to help me like find a solution or being like, you should do this, fix this. Like, you need to do this. You should change this. Go to therapy. He was literally just a shoulder to cry on and someone who emotionally supported me throughout all of that. And throughout the years, I mean, we still, you know, we still are like constantly connected. Like people always talk about how they're like, who guys are like always together. Like, because he has been such a positive influence in my life and like helping me be able to go through my mental health struggles in a way that is not too pushy, that is accepting. And I think, you know, because a lot of people have asked me like, how do I help my friends who are, you know, suicidal or experiencing mental health struggles?

Like, what can I do? And I think so much of the time we are so focused on. I'm like, well, here's what you can do and here's a solution. Let's fix this and let's take care of it. And I know for me personally, I never resonated with people who offered support in that way because I'm like, you will never understand this. And it's not something you will be able to grasp. And I don't need a solution from you.

I just need someone who will be there from me and listen to me and like a shoulder to cry on. And he was that person for me. So, yeah, he's definitely had the most positive impact. That's amazing. That's so sweet. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that.

Okay, last one is if you can go back to one moment in your life, what moment would that be? And what would you say to yourself? This is an intense one. You know, I think I would go back to when I was really young, probably six, seven years old, because that's when I was first starting to come to terms with like, okay, I'm not going to get the support. I need from my family. I'm not going to be accepted in this environment. And that's really where those concerns and core beliefs really started. I'd probably go back and say like, hey, the journey is going to be difficult. It's going to be very hard, but don't give up. Like stick it through. You have

no idea how many people are ready to show you love once you're outside of this environment and how many incredible opportunities you'll have. You just got to push through. Don't listen to what people are telling you and believe in yourself because that's what's going to get you through all of this. Normally, I would be more emotional talking about this, but I've done this exercise with my therapist so many times. Oh, my gosh.

I'm a little stronger, but I'd say that's probably what I would do. Oh, that's beautiful. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Well, thank you for being here. Yeah, I mean, just thank you from us. And I just want to say that I find it truly inspiring how you've, you know, taken the cards that were dealt to you and used them to become such an inspiration, not only to yourself, but just so many people.

And, yeah, I just think you're super impressive. And you can clearly tell just by talking to you that you have a heart of gold. and you care about people and it's infectious. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate you guys so much. And seriously, like the work that you are doing here,

you have no idea like how many lives you're touching and how many people need to hear the messages that you're sending, whether it's your own experiences or others. Like, I just, I'm really proud of you guys for making this podcast. And it's so cool to be able to have a platform to talk about this. So thank you so much for having me on. It was seriously an honor. You guys are awesome.

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