The Squeeze - Jordan Chiles: Use Your Voice

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

TW: emotional abuse   At only 22 years old, Olympian, World and Pan Am’s Champion Jordan Chiles has a lifetime of stories to tell. She joins the Lautners to discuss all that goes into becoming an athlete of her caliber, growing up the youngest of 5, and her far-from-traditional childhood as she progressed rapidly through her sport. She discusses separating Jordan the person from Jordan the Olympian and shares her favorite ways to disconnect from it all. She is no stranger to the downside of social media, so you’ll catch her pinning away on Pinterest before scrolling any other platform. She is also brave enough to open up to the Lautners about the abuse she suffered from a former coach and the long-lasting repercussions she’s had to deal with to this day. She offers sincere advice to others dealing with bullying and body shaming, what she’s most proud of, and what we can expect next from the girl who never stops.  Keep up with all things Jordan here  Thanks to our awesome sponsors for supporting this episode:  Hungryroot — Go to Hungryroot.com/THESQUEEZE to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies for life  Squeezed.com — Get same day local delivery or Free Fast delivery nationwide with code THESQUEEZE at Squeezed.com  Vessi — Step into the New Year with Vessi. Visit vessi.com/THESQUEEZE for 15% off your first purchase! Enjoy free shipping to CA,US, AU, JP, TW, KR, SGP  Apostrophe — Get your first visit for only five dollars at Apostrophe.COM/THESQUEEZE when you use our code: THESQUEEZE. Just go to Apostrophe.COM/THESQUEEZE and click Get Started, then use our code THESQUEEZE at sign up     To email us your questions or share your story, you can reach out to [e-mail]. Be sure to rate, review, and follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode! Plus, follow us on Instagram, @thesqueeze and personally @taylautner and @taylorlautner + on TikTok @thesqueezepodcast   To learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow @lemonsbytay on Instagram and visit lemonsbytay.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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gymnastics is. You know, it's, you're supposed to look a certain way. It's the typical, you know, look of a gymnast, right? I'm still fighting. Like, whether you see it or you don't see it, like I fight every day. When life gives you lemons, what do you do with them? Over here at the squeeze, we talk about it. What does Matthew McCona say? Oh, all right, all right, all right. I was going to say hello, hello, hello, hello. Just imagine it in his voice. Hello, hello, hello. No. Happy Wednesday. Have you started? Yeah, that could be part of the intro. Wow. Why not?

So you're going to admit that you thought Matthew McConaughey said hello, hello, hello. I didn't take, I don't know what I thought. Hello, hello, hello. All right, all right, all right. All right. Where's he from, Texas? Yeah. Okay, so his voice makes sense then.

Okay, so just be clear, we are using all of this? My goodness. No, no, no, let's use it. Let's use it. Hello, hello, hello. Oh, gosh. Happy Wednesday. Who, 11 drops.

We're here. What a start. What a start. I mean, it's Matthew McConaughey. It's a great start. Yeah, great start. Let's get him on. Even though his words, those aren't actually. Hello, hello, hello. How are you doing this Wednesday? I'm all right. I'm a little tired.

Anybody can tell? I actually just woke up from a nap. Oh, boy. So I'm still coming out of that. My back hurts. You did hurt your back. Yeah, I have nerve. I don't know what I have, but I have some sort of nerve damage or something to do with a nerve in my lower back. Yeah.

And it is killing. Taylor got his back worked on yesterday. So he's a little sore today. Yeah. I'm going to run him a little bath for this. I am. I'm going to hop in a hot bath with some Epsom salt immediately after this. Yeah.

But before my hot bath, we have an exciting episode. We have Olympic gymnast Jordan Childs. We were so excited. excited and honored to have on. Oh my gosh. I had actually so much fun with her. She was fantastic. Like we literally finished the interview and I was like,

that wasn't an interview. Like it didn't seem like work. She was so much fun. We were laughing so much, but also had very vulnerable, intimate moments, which was really cool that we got to like experience both ends at the spectrum there. And I know we say this a lot.

Like, I feel like we say it a lot a lot, But she's so young, it has so much wisdom. Yeah. Right. She's so young. Yeah. She just has this like, just like this vibe to her.

Like she's just like. For sure. She's just like cool. Yeah. But she also, I mean. Has a great laugh too. Yeah. No, she was, she was just all around great.

Whenever we have Olympians in the studio, it just feels surreal. Yeah. We're doing this and able to. talk to people like that. Yeah. It's very cool. Like they just have like a super natural talent that, you know, they excel in. And it's crazy just to like, we filmed some TikToks.

Oh, very excited. That may or may not be posted yet. But there's some, there's some acrobatic talent. Yeah. By Jordan and one of the two tailors. I'm not going to give away which one it is. but it's one of us. Okay.

Well, yeah, check the talk. It's not me. But yeah, as always, I'm excited for you guys to listen. But we just like went over a very wide range of topics. But I think something that I loved about this episode is getting to hear from her the separation between like Jordan, the human and Jordan the Olympian. Yeah. And the struggles that she faces, you know, like she's, she deals with everything. everyday life stressors, missing family members, online bullying, everything that we all do.

And then on top of that, she is training as an Olympic gymnast at the highest level of her sport. And like how she separates those, but it was a great conversation. No, it really was. Yeah. And also a quick little sign out. If you're listening, just take a moment and follow us along so that you don't miss our episodes each week. But I think we should dive into it. You guys are going to have a lot of fun listening.

It's worth it. All right. We'll see you on the other side. Jordan. Did she like that? Were you ready? That was really. That was very like straightforward.

Yes. Thank you for being here on the squeeze with us. We are honored to have you. No, thank you so much for having me. Honestly, this is a dream come true because I was a team Jacob fan my whole entire life. Oh my gosh. I love this for you. I would tell my siblings all the time, you know what?

If there was a time where Wolverines and Vampires were real, I would really be a Wolverine. And they were like, why? I was like, because one, they run fast. And two, I could survive very easily, I feel like. I agree with you. But only one of you two can say that you're Team Jacob. So I appreciate you being here today. I was Team Edward.

Oh, wow. Hold on. Just so what made how? I know. What I say is I say I was too young for the abs. I wasn't like into like abs yet. So that's my. She's more than you.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just, I think you need to be honest with yourself and just admit it had nothing to do with the abs or anything. I think that was a factor. You think that you, you, you saw those and you were like, bleh. I want the sparkle guy. I just, not the, I want the glitter. Maybe you just love glitter still.

I did. I did. I danced. So I enjoyed sparkles. Okay. We'll go with that. Okay. Well, thank you for your support. I really appreciate this.

I'll go. You could finish the interview. Oh, that's a good start. Okay, we start each episode with a segment called citrus got real. Okay. And in this jar of lemons, we have very random questions. If you wouldn't mind pulling one for us. Okay. Reading it and attempting to answer it.

attempting to answer it. I don't know. Never know what you're going to get. Oh, jeez. This is like our ASMR drum roll. That's why we're tapping the mic. Oh my gosh. Okay.

This one's easy. Okay. If I could switch places with someone for a day, who would it be? Ooh. I would say either Chloe Bailey. Okay.

Only because, like, having a sister like, Hallie is just like, wow, cool. Like, she was a little mermaid. Oh, my gosh. Just to say that. Wow.

And because her cat is, so they're so cute um and then another person would probably be biance i don't know just waking up and me like hey i'm biance like oh my gosh being able to sing like her for a day oh right or even just like her kids first off blue iconic yeah rushing her twins just adorable like just to be like oh yeah i have like amazing life like just yeah living it these are good answers i like this yeah we had far we did this question right a little bit ago we did it yeah i did not have good oh i said i said my dog you did say your dog said i would be remy probably not the i said i'd want to be the president just to like see if there actually is like a big red button hold on does she really just say that

you never know what like what's going on in there i can't tell you the white house is pretty cool i've been there oh you have yeah i did meet mr biden and camel it was It was great. Oh. You didn't see a button or anything? No. Okay. No.

I'm feeling out in the open. But A, we were only allowed to see certain parts of the White House. Yeah. What do those other parts look like? Exactly. So there could. I'm not even like in the politics,

but that's just something I'm kind of like. What president though? There's, you know, a lot. Whoever is just like having the title of that. As being the president. Yeah. I just want to see what that day looks like. Yeah.

So, I mean, it wouldn't be Biden right now. Sounds stressful. It does. Honestly. From election. Election Day all the way till now. I don't think I would ever. For one day, I feel like.

One day. And then you come back to yourself and you're like, whoa. Never again. Yeah. Was security like top notch? Was it crazy? It was. There were security almost like in front of like every area we were at.

But other than that, like, you know, there's security around obviously the president and the vice president. And there was since it was such like a huge thing because it was. after the Olympics. So like all of Team USA gets to go see the White House. Like there was security like, you know, because there was people. There was all these amazing things. But it was definitely like high end.

I was very like shocked. Yeah. Of what the White House looked like. Because you know, you've seen it in movies and stuff. And you're like, oh, okay. It's like great. You've seen it multiple times. But in person I was like, well, I'm actually at the White House.

Like, this is crazy. I don't think either of you. you are going to get this. I may have some traction over here. My date with the president's daughter. Anybody? He did get some traction. It's like rings a bell.

My date with the president's daughter. My day. I'm just pretend that I understood that. It's a, it's an old Disney Channel original movie. I knew that at least. Okay. I didn't want to say it. And you'd be like.

Really? Really? You're aging yourself. Not really. What? I don't think you'd be aging yourself. Like making me sound younger. Not up.

Sorry. Aging down myself. Yeah. You'd be aging your youth. Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. Just out of curiosity, was there Disney Channel original movies?

Yes. Okay. But what, like, were they? I would say mine was Cinderella with Brandy and Whitney Houston. We had full of, on like the actual like VCR like we had to like I still had that

We had a goofy movie We had a goofy movie What's this smart house? Yeah that's yeah I watch that That's my generation too Luck of the Irish I mean am I literally about to Google Disney Channel originally

What's some other bangers? I mean all the Disney princesses we had we had there's so many movies Halloween Town Halloween Town Yeah that's an original Jump in

That's an original Oh uh Brink The rollerblading one Yes we watched that Princess Protection Program I think my sisters watched that I was too young

Xenon Zon Zon Yeah I know I know it I don't think I I don't Cheetah girls

Oh my gosh Cheetah girls, of course. We stay together. We make up one big family. The look to say, our spots are different. Well, we have her trailer, everyone. I mean, I feel like they started singing. What is that?

It was happening. We went from English to Spanish World. What are you even saying? They have a song in Spanish. They say a song in Spanish? Yeah. In the movie? Yes.

Okay, well, we're definitely doing a TikTok to a Cheetah Girl song after this. Oh, boy. Okay. Let's get back to Earth. Okay. Even though these are, this is great going through all of this. Yeah. Oh, that was really.

I need to watch the Cheater girls now. And like, why was, my thing is, why? why during that time when they were singing the song, they were legit in like a club. But it was like for teenagers because it was during what their freshman. They're in high school.

Yeah, they were in high school. Yeah, I can't even remember. Oh my gosh. The way that music just like unlocked. That really came back to you. Literally, I could have kept going, but it's probably the best because. Yeah, we would have been on Cheetah Girl way for way too long.

Yeah. I just like whip on my phone and we started dancing. Oh my gosh. Okay, well, speaking of your siblings and watching all of that stuff, you're one of five. There's five of you? Yes. Wow. I'm an only child.

So. Wow, you don't give only child syndrome. Yeah. Right? Yeah. You don't give that. I agree. I've met people who give only child, like, I'm the only child.

And you know it. Like, you don't give that. I thought you at least maybe had a younger sibling or at least too older. Oh my gosh. That's like the greatest compliment. Whenever someone says that to me, I'm like, okay. I'm like doing something. thing right here.

But what was it? How close are you guys? Yeah, where are you? So I'm the youngest. Okay. The oldest is just turned 30 in August. Okay. Okay.

There's two boys and then obviously three girls. And it goes girl boy, girl boy, girl. Oh, wow. Yeah. Very interesting. But the age gap is so like, because my brothers are half brothers, but we all have the same dad. Okay.

And so, but from my, me and my older sister, it's eight years. Okay. And then everybody kind of lines in the middle by like two, three years. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I'm the youngest. I was spoiled. Yes, Mom.

I said it. I was spoiled really badly. But with my siblings, it was like, since the age gap was so huge, I really wasn't around them that much because I also with my sport, I was in it all the time. Yeah. With school and then gymnastics and then back home, it was just really hard. But by the time, I was. My sister went to college, I was only 10.

Wow. Okay. Yeah. I was going to ask, like, was there, like, a competitiveness, like, in the home for you to, like, you know, push harder in gymnastics or, like, if, I don't know if that was there because of the age. Were any of your siblings competitive in sports? Oh, my mom was, is all about sports. Okay. Like, no matter what, we had to be in a sport.

She was not going to have all of her children just sitting around playing beneath, which is not wrong. I'm not putting. Hey, if you want to play video games, E. Do what you do. But my mom, she's a sports person. So my brothers did, you know, football and track. My other sister, she was actually really good at track. She could have gone to the Olympics for track.

But she decided to go into the acting realm. Like, I'm done with track. I'm going to go into theater. And then also the oldest one, she did a little bit of gymnastics, but got into like basketball and track and all that. So our family is very sport-oriented, but I was the only one who truly stuck with it. And that was kind of, I don't want to say an issue, but it was like a huge thing with how our family was. My sister would have to like go out of her way to take me to practice because my mom wasn't.

So it was like during that time frame, it was kind of like I was the priority. And with family having one person the priority, it's kind of hard really knowing how they're failing. But as I got older now, like we always talk about it. And it's just crazy to think. Like I thank them all the time. Like you guys literally supported me and I just wasn't able to see it because I was so young. Yeah. But now it's like, no, I want you guys to understand.

Like I really, really appreciate that. Oh. Because it's hard. Like you're the youngest one of five. Yeah. And all the other ones just, I don't know. I don't know if it was because they felt like they weren't being looked at or like being looked past because they weren't in the same position I was in.

So, yeah. But I gave all the flowers to them because I don't know how they dealt with me. I don't be completely honest. I was crazy bouncing off walls, all these different things. Like, it was just bananas, really. That's so sweet of you to say. I feel like that definitely shows like your character too, just the fact that you're able to like see that, you know, they also like had to sacrifice.

Yeah. That's really cool. And also like the sports part makes more sense now because you're named after Michael Jordan. Yes. Oh my gosh. I am. I'm like, that's a high bar. It is.

It is. I didn't truly understand it until I started getting older. Obviously, my mom had some crazy issues with pregnancies. And my dad was like in those time frames, he was like, no, we're not going to have anything dealing with Michael Jordan. All this stuff. I don't want no Jordan. I don't want no Michael. I don't want anything.

And when he realized how much she was going through with pregnancies and stuff, I don't know. I was never supposed to be born. I was a miracle child and a rainbow baby. Wow. So with all that, he was just like, you do you. Yeah. You've gone through so much. And so my mom's like, Jordan, I'm going to name her Jordan.

But she was a huge fan. Wow. Really, really huge fan. I almost had the opportunity to actually meet him at the Nike headquarters because my grandma, her mom worked there. No way. And she would, you know, help with like, whether it was, making sure like the security was good or you know getting him his stuff that he needs so that's how

Michael was kind of like oriented into our family and she just loves basketball sports anything so it's really cool to know now as I get older I'm like it's crazy to say that I am named after him because he is the greatest literally in basketball and anything and just seeing how he was able to put himself in positions whether it was due to you know him being sick or due to him wanting to be done with basketball and going to a whole different sport or just like him and his community. So I try to be like him. I'm not, I'm not going to lie. Like I try to be like him because it was just such a huge inspiration for sure. Wow. You like Mike. So something as you guys know that has been a huge part of my mental health journey, Taylor's mental health journey journeys as individuals. And as a couple has been very. Amen. And that is why I am so excited to share our next sponsor with you guys, which is cerebral. Serrebral is here to help you achieve your mental wellness goals with professional therapy and medication management support 100% online. You'll experience the all new cerebral way, an innovative approach to mental wellness designed around you. You'll get a personalized treatment plan from a therapist, prescriber, or both in a safe and judgment-free space. I love that cerebral is 100% online.

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because I do my research. And I'm also fascinated. I think it's so crazy. So you started gymnastics seven? Yeah, about, yeah. Okay. And that is late in the game? Yes.

For most people that, you know, are in your present. today? Yes, for sure. I had really bad like ADHD, ADD when I was younger. I tried different sports. T-ball, didn't work. I would hit the ball, run, woo-hoo, made a home run.

In the outfield, I'd be picking daisies. So boring, yeah. So boring. Yeah. But it was just like, I, you know, I helped my team win. It was cool. I did track when I was, you know, my siblings would have track meets. They would have, like, baby track for, like, toddlers and stuff.

So I would do that. But gymnastics kind of stuck with me because it saved me. I always say it saved me due to there would be times where my dad would try talking to me and I just wouldn't be able to sit still and talk to him back. But when he would stop me, my brain would go blank. Like I had nothing to say. But then when he would let me go, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, doing this and all this stuff going crazy. And so he didn't want it to be such a huge issue going into school when my teachers would be like,

there's like something wrong with her, you know. Yeah. And so gymnastics at 7 I started. I taught myself a lot of things. I would go home and I kind of just progressed really fast, which is very like rare. So by the time as levels were, you know, we have four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and then elite. So there's about eight levels. By the time I was eight, I was a level eight.

By the time I was nine, I was a level nine. At the time I was 10, I was level 10. And when I turned 11 is when I went into international. Wow. I skipped two levels throughout that whole thing. So the progression of how I was able to develop everything was just beyond, like, fast. Because at seven, like, normally people start three, four years old. Yeah.

And I'm over here seven. And then in the timeframe of, what, three, four years, I'm already in the pro-international area. Yeah. The fact that you were at an eight only after doing it for a year, year and a half, sounds kind of crazy. Exactly. What were your parents thinking? Like, do you know, like, or even, I mean, you? Like, were you able to, like, process, like, that level of talent? My parents, I think it was more so of just me getting my energy out. That's where I want. That's all they wanted. They were just like, get your energy out, come home and relax. So funny.

So, like, that's how I was seeing it. And for me, I didn't really realize how fast I was progressing until I was around 13, 14 years old. Yeah. Oh, wow. Because I'm just, you know, following what my parents are saying, get all your energy out having fun because the sport is fun. I'm not going to lie. It's, you feel like you're flying. You're feeling like, you know, you're a superhero and all this.

But in the time frame of like 11, 12 year old mindset, you don't really think about that. Yeah. You just think about, okay, yes, I have another. competition to compete at. Yes, I have another practice to go to. Yes, I have homework to do. But as I got older, it was just like, whoa. I tell people all the time, just like, take your time, please. Yeah. Were you still, like, in school or were you homeschooled at all during this? That's another thing. During my time, I was the only one who actually went to school. Okay. I had to. I'm a very social, like, outgoing. I will introduce myself even if I don't

know who you are. Like I would just be like, hi, I'm Jordan. Like, nice to meet you. And then move on with my day. Yeah. But that was one thing. I told, we tried homeschool. I couldn't do it.

Couldn't focus. Couldn't do anything. Because I needed the, you know, interaction with teachers. I needed the interactions with people and just, you know, getting my social life, how I wanted it. And I didn't want to be in a position where I did go to college and be like, um, this is the first time I've been in the classroom. Yeah.

I didn't want that. I wanted to make sure when I did, you know, go off the college. college, I'd be like, okay, yeah, I've done this before. I've done my sport and school before. Yeah. When, or at any point, I mean, I'm assuming you did stop going to public school? When, like, did you ever stop going to public school? No, I never stopped. Or going to school, I guess I should say. No, I never stopped. I did K through 12, all of public school. It was times where I would have to probably do like an online class, like whether it was something that I needed for college. Like, my language I did online.

Yeah. I did extra sciences online. I did an AP class online. I did an honorable class online. So it just was like depending on what I needed that year. Yeah. But other than that, I went to public school. Like I, my teachers understood that if I had to leave early, I need to leave early.

They understood that if I had to, you know, go to a whole different state to compete, they would give me my homework for that week. My principal was honestly like the best principal anyone could ask for. That's awesome. So yeah, my middle school, high school and elementary all knew. They all understood that it wasn't just, you know, like what people say you go and you jump around on equipment. They actually understood like I was actually doing something. Yeah. So but now, yeah, in my high school now I have my own shadow box.

Oh my gosh. Which is pretty cool. Let's go. I wouldn't be like how I am now if it wasn't for like, you know, everybody understanding what I needed for myself. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. It's really cool. And I mean, I had similar experiences. I started competing in martial arts at a young age.

And we had a tournament once a month. And I would miss a lot of school and stuff and have to like, you know, make up stuff and do stuff on my own while I was gone. And it was hit or miss for me. So I had some teachers that were like dreams and some teachers that were like, dreams and some teachers that were like, Like, no, we're not playing that game. And it was, it was challenging at times. So that's, that's really cool that they were like, it feels like you had like a team behind you, just like supporting you. For sure.

My thing is like for you in that situation, like, how did you really control like your feelings when your teachers told you like, no? Like I'm not going to allow you to do this because it was like a dream of yours, right? you wanted to do martial arts. Like how did you personally in that moment really react? I mean, I was pretty young. And I think my parents did a good job at like keeping that away from me. I think like I maybe knew that something was going on, but they weren't fully like filling me in like they were dealing with the drama.

The brunt of the teachers. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think I fully understood at the time. exactly what was going on because they just wanted to keep me focused. Yeah. Yeah. Was there like a point for you, like, as you're like progressing and like, did you know

you wanted to go to the Olympics doing gymnastics? Like, because it was just like your fun, like getting energy out. Like when, when were you like, oh, wait, I'm actually really good at this and this is something like I should like. So it would be a real thing other than just getting my energy out. Yeah. So the 2008 Olympics happened. and it was the times that I remember,

we would always, like, the Olympics is something that's like family. Our family would come together. We would watch every single sport, track, tennis, golf, whatever the sport is, and we would watch it from the beginning till like 3 o'clock in the morning. So gymnastics had came on, and obviously that's my sport because at that time I was, what, seven years old?

Yeah, seven years old. And I was just sitting there watching. I was like, oh, it's so cool, great. And I had told my mom, I was like, Mom, I want to go to the Olympics. And she was like, really? And I was like, yeah, I said. But in that moment, I didn't just want to go to the Olympics because of my sport. I was just like, I want to go because they're winning cool things.

They're winning medals. They have, you know, the ability to be in front of the world and competing and everybody's watching. Like, that's so cool. So in that moment, it wasn't for gymnastics, not at all. I didn't realize until I want to say, around 14, 15 years old. Okay. I was like, oh, I actually can do something with this.

I actually could go to the Olympics for the sport. Like, that's just crazy in general. Because at the end of the day, like, again, in my mind, I was just trying to get my energy out when I was younger. And so everything kind of just progressed in, okay, my mindset changing, my mindset being like, okay, if you really want to do this, you're going to have to change some things within yourself. Yeah.

So that was, you know, eating, that was getting to a point where I could just, you know, be okay with how my practices were going because I knew there would be better days. Yeah. So around that time, everything kind of was just like, okay, I know 20, I miss the 2016 Olympics by four months, which is kind of sad because I was like, man, I could have been in 2016 Olympics. But again, everything happens. I think everything happens for a reason. So knowing that 2016 and all that stuff, like, I'm not. I wasn't able. My mindset was just on 2020. Yeah. And so from there, from being 15 years old until now my mindset had always been Olympics, Olympics, Olympics.

Like my sport, this is my sport. I can't change anything. I'm going to do what I'm doing at the Olympics, basically. Yeah. But yeah, 15, 14, 15 years old is when I was like, gymnastics? Olympics? Oh, okay. Let's do it. Mine as well. I'm in it. I can't even like even try to like process thinking that at that age. or anything remotely close to that.

Yeah. It's crazy. Because I ask 15-year-olds now, and they're like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm just enjoying myself doing this. And I'm like, at 15, what was I doing? Like, I was going on airplanes by myself to, you know, national team camps.

I was traveling here, going to Germany, Italy, all these things. And I'm like, that's not what normal 15-year-old. year olds do. Yeah. Unless you are a celebrities kid, but other than that. Yeah. It was just, it's crazy just to even think about now, like, just everything that I've

gone through from the time I started until now. It was nonstop. Do you ever, because this is something that I've, you know, battled with, do you ever, slash, do you still ever feel like you missed out? at the time, still today, are there things in life because of the path that you have conquered? Are there other things that you feel like you missed out on and you would want to like not go back and change anything, but just miss out on? I would say yes. I feel like I miss out on a lot of friendships that I could have had.

but since my sport was so demanding, it's something that I couldn't control. Yeah. I feel like I missed out on a lot of school activities that, you know, I feel could have helped me in the long run. I mean, I was, which was the best thing I feel like any gymnast could really do is go to their school dances. Like I was able to go to prom.

I was able to go to like, you know, homecoming and all that. But there are a lot of things that I wish, like birthday parties. I wish I was able to. to go to more often. Family vacations. It was a mandatory thing, but could we go every single time? No. Sister trips, like, you know, cousin trips, seeing all my family, like at times where everybody

just had to leave me, it was a struggle. I mean, it's still a struggle now. Like, I still can't really do as many things as I wish I could because of what my sport has, like, basically. in place for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. But again, I think the only reason why it's so like that,

whether it's, you know, in any world of art, whether it's, you know, you're acting, you're in music and a sport, I think it's just because, like, everybody's path has its own way of leading to something that at the end will be able to experience those things, but with a better understanding. Because I feel like if in that moment we did do those things, it would be like,

okay, cool, this was great. But like now I feel like it's like, okay, if I do go on this vacation, it's because I earned that. It's because I was able to, you know, experience the things that I want to experience with my family or with my friends. Yeah.

Yeah, that's great. True. Do you feel like it's ever difficult to like separate, like Jordan, like, the, like human and like, like Jordan, the Olympian with, you know, you know, stressors from like home life or whatever like personal stuff with, you know, the stressors and the pressure of like training and everything that you have to go through,

like to be at the level that you're at. It took me a while. I had to learn that to separate the two. It took me a while. Recently, I would say only four years ago is when I found that out. Oh, wow. Figured out how to separate the Jordan who's an Olympian and the Jordan or even before. I was in Olympian, like the Jordan just, just an athlete and the Jordan that's family, friends,

you know, community. Sister, daughter. Exactly. Neas, cousin, all that stuff. So with the time that I had of me being my sport, people only saw me as an athlete. Yeah. Which I never understood. I was like, I'm more than just that.

Yeah. But maybe since I was always told, you're an athlete, you're an athlete, you're an athlete, from like a million different people, it was just like, okay, then maybe I am just an athlete. So going home is all I thought was. I'm just an athlete. You talk about your sport all the time. But then as I got older, I was like, wait, that doesn't make sense.

Because there is more to me. There's more than just me going, waking up, and going to practice. I come home, I'm a daughter. I'm a dog mom. I'm, you know, somebody who enjoys talking to their friends. Like those are those type of things. I feel like kind of just were like stripped. And I wasn't able to use my voice on.

So now I can separate the two. I go home. My mom asked me one question. I'm like, sorry, not today. Yeah. I don't want to talk about my sport.

Like, I'm sorry. I have meetings to do. I have, you know, other things. Because even, yes,

I constantly talk about my sport and interviews and all that stuff, which is fine because that's who I am. And that's what I know. Like, I am somebody who, did go to the Olympic, somebody who, you know, has this amazing platform. But at the end of the day, I'm only one Jordan. Yeah.

I'm only the Jordan that you see in the public eye. I'm only the Jordan that's going to be authentic to herself and authentic to the world. I'm not going to change what you see on social media. I'm not going to change how I talk or whatever it is when you see me in person. Like, I know how to, you know, be okay with who I am. So it's interesting. It's very interesting. I'm not going to lie.

very interesting because when I did find that out, I was like, well, this is what it feels like not having to think about other things. You can just go home and watch TV and cook yourself a good meal, lay down and relax without thinking about your sport. Yeah. And once I figured that out from there on, I was like, yeah. Yeah. I should have done this a long time ago. Yeah. It takes a while like in life for everyone to figure out the balance and also figure out boundaries, like setting those boundaries.

so difficult sometimes, but as soon as you like realize, you're like, oh, I can say no to that. Oh, I can like set that boundary. It's like, life is a little bit more enjoyable. Exactly. I mean, I always wondered because like as an athlete, like, I know you were in acting and you're an actor and all that. Like, how did that determine? Like, when did that phase of you being like, oh, wait, I don't always have to say yes to everything. Yeah. For me, it was more so deciding. like I was making decisions based off of what I thought other people wanted me to do. And, yeah. And like, yeah, instead of viewing it as I want to be successful in my own eyes.

I want to be successful in my family's eyes. I was going, what's the right next move for me? What do, you know, my agents and managers want me to do? What do the fans? me to do. What do the critics want me to do? Well, if I do this, you know, I really want to do this, it would be fun, but the critics will probably say that's a stupid move and I need to go some, do some like little, you know, indie. For a long time, that was my point of view and how I was making decisions. And I think it eventually led to unhappiness. And it, that eventually led to me

having to take a step back and just saying, I'm done with this for now. And I don't know if I will come back. I'll figure that out. But yeah, that was the bigger problem for me, was just making choices for the wrong reasons. What are like some of your hobbies or whatever your favorite thing to do is to just kind of like release? Like what do you do to like turn off?

Like what are your favorite activities or even if it's just sitting, staring at your TV? Because I feel like that probably, that's probably important to still. keep like, you have to be able to have the release to still, like, have like your drive for your sport because of how intense it is. Yeah, for sure. Well, I'm a sneaker head.

I don't know if you can tell my shoes. Oh, we can tell. So for me, it's, I know it's like really bad, but retail therapy. Shopping just in general. Talk to the right person. Sometimes, though, it's crazy because a couple times I've done this, I'll just go to a car lot. like a dealership and just look at cars. Yeah.

Like don't ask me why that's even a thing. Like sometimes I would just be like, you know what? I'm just going to stop at this dealership real quick and just look at cars. Like I'm going to buy one that day or something. You aren't in need of a car. You just want to.

No, like just like, well, I love cars. Like I love motorsports, like anything like that. So that's something that I really enjoy. But besides that, I really take time to myself. I learned about time management. freshman year of college. And once I realized that I was like, where was this all along? Being able to take time to yourself, whether it's getting a massage, whether it's doing

facials with your friends. A lot of the time, I will just sit back and watch Netflix. One thing that really helps me is going on Pinterest. I don't like social media. I dislike social media so much, even though it is a part of my business. It's a part of what I do. But the only social media I will use is Pinterest. And for some reason,

just like the thought process of creating things, because I do have very interesting, my creative mind, whether it's within designing stuff, whether it's within, you know, just one time I was on a plane and I started creating a play. Don't ask me how. And then it turned into like a movie.

It was just, I just get very creative. Yeah. So with Pinterest, it kind of lets my creativity, like, just explore a lot of different things. So those are like kind of the things.

I sometimes will, like, go down to stuff. stairs and draw. I like drawing. I like, I figured out during COVID that I actually could draw. It was very interesting. COVID times very interesting for me. But, yeah, those are like the simple little things.

Besides, you know, I've talked to sports psychologists to get my mental in the right spot. I've talked to, you know, family members. Going to deep conversations, that's the one thing I love to do. Like, just getting pieces of advice from like each and every person, whether you know what you're talking about you don't, but you're like pitching in. Yeah. It just makes my mind like really turn into different directions.

But other than that, it's really shopping is the go for me. I love that. I'll go shopping one day. Meet you on Rodeo real quick. Oh my gosh. You tell me when. I will be there. Perfect.

I will be there. Did anything ever happen social media-wise that made you take a step back? or are you just like proactively protecting yourself from, you know, the downfalls of social media? So my mom had my social media for the first, like, I want to say when I turned 17, she finally let my social media like I can have it. Okay. Which I think was for the better. Yeah. Because I feel like nowadays with all these influencers, like, you know, with body shaming, with, you know, looking a certain way with, there's just a lot of things that go into it.

for me personally there were a lot of things um i got bullied um i've gotten threats um i've gotten inappropriate pictures sent to me um but this was only all said to me by my mom because she was controlling it and she had to um you know protect me from that which i'm so thankful for because still to the day sometimes i'd be like you had my social media for this long and the like all this stuff but again like i can only give her her like motherhood to an extent because she was trying to protect me

from what was being said. So nowadays, I just feel like social media has taken a turn now because it's became such a huge platform for a lot of people. And I feel like being authentic to who you are

is something that people will never recognize whether you tell the truth on social media and they still think that you're lying in real life. And it's also like, I'm always in the forefront. front. I'm always in people's eyes 24-7. Like we're in entertainment. So it's the expectation, right? It's the expectation of looking a certain way that I just don't like. I don't, I call them bully bots. No, like you're sitting on your couch eating potato chips looking at me for why. Yeah. Just to criticize

something that you may not have, which I understand. I get it. Not everybody has the same exact thing. Not everybody has the same, you know, lifestyle. Not everybody has the same path that needs to be taken. But at the end of the day, if you are criticizing somebody else, I think you should go look at yourself in the mirror and find out what the real problem is. Because normally the real problem is within yourself. So that's how I see social media. And I just kind of, you know, I take stepbacks. I do.

Yeah. All the time. Like I've gone ghosts one time. And the only way you could communicate with me was if you had my number. I've gone, you know, just to a point where I don't like posting all the time. Like if you think me, like if you're only following me because I post 24-7, then obviously you don't know who truly I am. Because if you're only following me because I do a sport, then that's an issue. If you're only following me because, you know, you're choosing sides, then I feel like, okay, so then you're not truly knowing who I am as a person because there's more to me.

So that's social media has just kind of been like, yeah, okay. But again, it's a business thing. It's just a part of the job. It's a part of the job. Exactly. Like, it's a part of it. everything that you're doing now, whether it's with your agent, whether it's with PR, whether it's a sponsorship, whether it's with, you know, just within yourself, because that's your income.

I get that. Yeah. But if I had to choose to just let social media go, I would. You stick to Pinterest. Exactly. I would stick to Pinterest and just pin myself away. Well, that's great advice and such a good, like, outlook for people to hear. You touched on it, and I want to bring it up, if you're comfortable sharing the story,

We talk about body shaming a lot on the podcast because that is something that, you know, Taylor has had his fair share of with stuff. I mean, we both have dealt with it, but obviously you on a much bigger scale than me. I know that you mentioned, you know, being body shamed and I know there was like a situation. Something happened with the former coach. Do you mind sharing? Yeah, of course. I had a coach who verbally abused me and emotionally abused me. I was body shame to an extent to where I look at pictures now and I say, wow, I was told I looked like a sack of potatoes when I was literally looked like a twig.

How old were you? The crazy part is, is I was so blindsided that I don't even know, like, what age I was. Yeah. I was so, like, in a realm of people saying, this is a normal thing. Yeah. This is normal with every coach that you get coached by. This is how gymnastics is, you know? You're supposed to look a certain way.

It's the typical, you know, look of a gymnast, right? So if you didn't look like that, you were told, you know, either you're fat. Either for me, I have a backside that I'm African American. I can't control what happens, you know? Like, I don't look like everybody else. So with that, it was just, I want to say, probably around 10, 11 years old is kind of when it got such an issue. But when I first started, she didn't believe my mom was my mom. I'm half Latin and black.

So after Latina, my mom brought me in the gym and she was like, this is not your daughter. Mom was like, what are you talking about? She's like, this is not your daughter. She doesn't like, what is what do looks got to do with anything, right? I didn't know this. I was just like, hey, I'm in the gym, right? Yeah. But with the body shaming situation, I've gotten told,

I had two heads because of my hair. I looked like sack potatoes. There was one point I was called Tinkerbell. Never knew why I was called Tinkerbell. But there was just times where my self-esteem got to a point where I didn't want to be on the earth anymore. I didn't want anything to deal with my life. Like, why, what's the point if I'm always going to get told something? I'm always going to say there's something wrong with me.

So it was so bad with her that it got to a point where I just kind of told my mom, like, I don't know what she's doing, but it's not good. I can't look at food and be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to eat it. Like, I don't eat already. Like, I feel like I can't have, you know, ice cream when everybody else is having ice cream. Like, there was just a lot of things that. She kind of stripped from me. I'm still working through it.

There are times where if you say one wrong thing, I will be like, okay, I'm done. Yeah. Like, oh, you're eating this today? I'm sorry. No, not anymore. Yeah. So it's just like that abuse that she had put on me was just like to a max. So bad.

Yeah. But yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, I mean, I'm so sorry that you had to go through that because I can't imagine. and having that at that young of age. When it's instilled in you that young, it's not just like you can snap your fingers and it goes away. Like that is going to be like the reality is that is going to be something that you will, you know, be working through for probably a while because, I mean, that's how I feel. But like, I mean, gymnastics as a sport in general is maybe the most judge.

mental sport there is. Like, it's literally judgment, like in every aspect. So that's hard enough, I would imagine. But then having stuff like that on top of the sport itself, yeah, that's something that, you know, requires work. It does. I got weighed. Oh, gosh. Yep.

I got weighed. You gain one pound to weigh you. I had to be under a certain weight. Yeah. There was actually a lot of things. I got smoked out in the car. She smoked cigarettes and left me in the car while smoking a cigarette. I've gotten left in the airport.

There was just a lot of things that happened within, not just the abusing part of body shaming, but also just as being a young child. Yeah. How have you been able to, like, heal from that? Like, what steps or what have you, what has helped you heal from that? God, really, praying every day, having the right support around me. My circle got really small. When I first came out, was on another podcast.

It was the first time I was after Tokyo, I was like, you know what? I think I just need to speak about what happened because it's eating me out like all the time. So when I was able to do that, from there on I was just like, okay, like I can talk about this. There's been friends, well, used to be friends, ex-friends now, who came at me and said, did you never did this, da-da-da, and I was like, you can protect her all you want. But at the end of the day, I know what she did to me. Yeah. You know, so knowing that I had my family.

I apologize to me so many times. She was like, I'm so sorry. I never saw that. I was like, you didn't know really either. There was family, like other parents telling you it's normal. Like, you can't do anything about that. But definitely would have to say, like, God was something that I, he was by my side through the whole entire thing. Parents, friends that, you know, understood where I was coming from.

And even my teachers, they would know. They'd be like, are you okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I just got to, you know, push through what I'm going through and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, I know I have a place to be on this earth for a reason. And so I think that's another thing is. And also understanding my story is so unique and different and making sure that the generation underneath me understands that your life isn't perfect. But once you put those right pieces into play, everything will be how it's supposed to be.

I love that. Is there like any advice that you could give someone listening right now that is maybe, you know, being bullied online, dealing with body shaming, um, advice like now looking back, having dealt with that, like what advice you would give to them? Um, I would say use your voice. Um, talk to people, whether it's a family member, whether it is a sports psychologist, whether it is, you know, somebody that you may not know, because it's easier to talk to somebody you don't know because they can understand you. Um, So and also knowing that it's your life. Nobody can control it. You can only control what you do within yourself. So if you want to, you know, be, you know, have your times where you do grieve where you are sad and all that, but also understand that everybody's put on this earth for a reason. And if you know your reasons are the right ones, then just keep pushing towards that because that's what I did. I wanted to prove people wrong. I wanted to prove people that it's okay to look the way you look and still succeed what you want to do. It's okay to. be the person you are and go on and live your life how it's supposed to be. So just always remember, my quote actually, is always believe in the power of your dreams. Because your dreams are very powerful. They are very immaculate.

They can go on however long you want them to go. But always know that your dreams are your dreams and nobody else's. I love that. Yeah, I mean, of that, I literally said that so many times in my head is your time. This is like a simple question, but a loaded one. And it could literally be anything from like life to Olympics to whatever. Is there an accomplishment or something that you are the most proud of yourself for? Staying true to myself.

Because there was. There were a lot of doubts. There were a lot of times where I did want to quit within my sport. Obviously, you know, I did have a lot of suicidal thoughts, not being on. being here and all that stuff, but just being true to myself and true to what my passion and my dedication is. And then also just, you know, fulfilling something that I've always wanted since I was little, whether people were picking at me, poking me, throwing things at me, like, it just depend on, you know, how strong I could be. So just fighting, continue to fight. And, you know, I'm still fighting.

Like, whether you see it or you don't see it, like I fight every day, making sure, you know, I'm good. family's good, you know, my support system understands. And same with my fans. So just being the best version of myself. I love that. I love that so much. Before we move on to Lemon 7, what about, what about goal? What's your next? Do you have, what's your next goal? My next goal, besides 24, that's coming quick. It is coming quick. How are you feeling? I'm excited. I'm really excited just to see what this year has an like intel for me. It's a new chapter. Every year for me is a new chapter. Obviously, 23, I can't wait to leave behind because I did have some very interesting family situations at the beginning of the year and then not too long ago. So just knowing that hopefully

24 will be a new beginning, a new chapter that's just filled with excitement, enjoyment, you know, fun things like this and me being me. So I'm really excited for 24. But Other than that, I don't know. I mean, there's so many things that I feel like I want to do within my life. I'm only 22. I have a car. I bought my parents a house. There's so many things.

I want to go into real estate. I want to do things to help the community, whether it's building like homeless shelters, whether, you know, just things that I can make sure, like, everybody's okay. Even though my dad always tells me, you can't save everybody. I know that. But at the end of the day, like, if I try to, it makes me feel so much better. Yeah. Would you ever, like, do something like, let's say, you know, you're older, you know, you've hung up your leotard.

Would you do something artsy? Like, like, go. You've such a creative brain. Well, I do like fashion. Okay. I've always wanted to, you know, design something within, like, a designer, whether it's, like, a lou. Chanel, just something that's creative that has came from like my line of Leo's that I have. Or like just something that just let my brain go.

Yeah. But I think the more creative side, like if I did, it would probably be interior design. Yeah. I love designing like houses and all that stuff. Like just me being me, just letting my mind go is just craziest thing. I mean, I've thought of doing, you know, a clothing brand. I've thought of doing other type of, like, artsy things. I used to play music.

I played the clarinet, so that's another, like, yeah, I was first chair and I did marching band. You got some fun facts. I do. How did you have time for that? Exactly. I made sure I had time. I had to make sure I had time. I did marching band for four years.

I was first chair in my, for clarinet. I did saxophone, too. Wow. Yeah. So if I did, I mean, honestly, I would probably go into, if I could. go back to music as an art. I would go back to music and maybe do like jazz or something. Oh my gosh.

Okay, I'm going to go back to our Citrus Scott real question. I'm going to be you for a day because I feel like one, I would be able to do all these fun flips and things. But then also be that crazy. Like I just, I love your mind. Just like how it works. Yeah, you know how when she was a kid, they would bring her to the gym so she could get her energy out.

Like now it's like, we got to bring her. her mind to places so we can let her mind just fly. Yeah. Literally. There's been times where I'll just sit on the couch and be like, okay, so this is what I want to do. And my dad or my mom will look at me and be like, huh? I kid you not.

I was like, okay, so what if there was this, you know, show, whether it's a TV show or a movie, somebody, you know, however I pitch it. And it's basically this girl, she's living a life, a normal life. She's in high school and all this stuff. But her superpower is whenever she, closes her eyes, her dreams come to reality. Oh. She falls in love with this mistress that's in her dream, but doesn't know how to explain it

to her boyfriend that's in the real world. Oh. So like her worlds are colliding in a way. And I had told my parents, like I wrote the whole script out and everything. Of course you did. I literally wrote the whole script out and everything. Like it's actually pretty funny. And I had told my parents this and they were like, what?

Like, where did you even get this? It's like my mind just. one day I was like, you know what, I'm just going to write script on the plane because I couldn't go to sleep. I was just like, and the movie or the film or whatever it would be, it would be called The Dreamer. Okay. So if that ever comes out, you know, you guys are the first to now.

Oh, my gosh. But yeah, my mind just like eight to nonstop, creative. I love that. Yeah. Dang. That's so fun. Okay, I'm going to be you. So we have this little segment called Lemon 7.

It's just seven fun questions. You can rapid fire them. You can go an explanation, whatever your heart desires when you... I like that. You hear the question. Lemon seven? Lemon seven. I love that.

All right. Number one. Okay. What movie or song title best describes your mental health today? Ooh. She's like my film. Yeah, the dreamer. I would have to say Beyonce's, I'm that girl.

Okay. Yeah. Love it. I think that would really describe, like, where I'm at with my mental and, like, who I am. Yeah. I have that. Good answer. Number two, how open are you with the people in your life when struggling?

I'm very open. It took me a while, but now that I understand that they understand me, I'm very open. Wow. I'm definitely more open to my siblings than I am to my parents sometimes because sometimes I feel like the topics I talk about can't really be seen in a certain way. but my siblings could understand a little better. Yeah. But yeah, I'm open. They basically almost know my whole entire life.

I love that. Yeah. That's so great. Okay, this might be a tough one. We'll change it to Pinterest. I know. The question was going to be if you could only follow three social media accounts, what would they be? On any platform, including Pinterest.

Like social media accounts? Yeah. Yeah, like who would you, like if you could only follow three of them? Oh, my. gosh okay so on tic-tok i would do mona mic michael do you know who that is she's like an influencer i don't know who she sounds like oh sus is like yeah i probably know her if i saw her i'm so bad at names do you know who jalen um you can hate saying all these names and i'm not gonna know his last name's nobo how do you say his last name yeah he was on love island uh yeah so they're a reality

junkie oh i love reality same yeah keeping up with the cardactions or how did i say the Cardashians now. So yeah, I would choose her on TikTok. I would probably choose for like Instagram.

That's social media platform. Instagram, I would probably choose like one of my favorite artists. I'd probably do Megast styling though. Because she does her reels and they're so hilarious but then she also like posts her normal life. Right.

So I think that would be yeah. And then on Twitter I would do People's Magazine because they just are funny and crazy. and they always make things up. And they always make things up. I feel like they'd be making stuff up. Sometimes I'd be looking like, is that real? Or are you just making that up?

You never know. You never know. Keep you on your toes. Right? But I mean, I have the, well, if you think about the three, I can go deeper because the three that I chose, one, Monet, she is an influencer. So she does her beauty. She does her home.

So I could get the entertainment. from that of understanding, okay, beauty. Then Megan, she's an artist, and she also is becoming an actress now, too. So it's like, it's like her daily life, but also I could still listen to her music. And then People Magazine, it's like I can get all the politics in the world. Yeah. You got everything. Exactly.

Like that. You're good to go. Yeah. It's almost like you planned that answer. That really did it. She came prepared. Okay, number four. What is your favorite form of self-care?

Mm, massages. Oh, girl. Or like facials. Yeah. If there was a hangout. Yeah, I'm down. Can't get a massage. We're going to go shopping after.

Get a facial. Might as well get a manny patiae. Yeah. Everything. Yep. But yeah, definitely, like if I had more time to be able to do those things, you would probably like, where's Jordan? Oh, she said a massage.

Okay. Leave you there. Hey, that's important for your job. Tell me about it. Body aches. Hers are probably just like painful, like sports massages. No. They're relaxing.

They're so relaxing. Yeah, she gets those like on the daily. Sorry, that's what I was saying. Yeah, the daily ones, you're probably getting like rubbed down and it hurts. Right? No, I'm actually, I've done. You're probably so used to it now? No.

I'm actually, I've never met anybody who's ever done a pressure point massage. Have you heard of those? Uh-huh. Pressure point massages? Uh-huh. Yeah. So the very first time I got a pressure point massage. Apparently I didn't flinch.

I didn't do anything. I fell asleep, actually. Yeah. So, like, those type of massages, I enjoy. So a deep tissue massage from your local spa, you would just be like, can you go harder? Yep. Okay. We're going to need different massages because I'm literally like, don't touch me.

Like, it hurts. I'm such a baby. Yeah, you are the opposite. That's not my mom is, though. My mom is very, like, sensitive in that way. Like, but it's only because, like, I think it's the way as athletes, it's a little different because our muscles are always tight no matter what. Yeah.

So when we get them rubbed out, the pain isn't because like, oh, we're getting pushed on. It's more so of like, oh, that muscle is getting released because of how tight it is. Yeah. No, I'm like, literally, I'd be like, can you go really light on my traps? I'm like, don't touch them. No, honestly, sometimes you're like, can you just tickle? I don't even want the massage. I don't say that.

You just scratch. Hey, I love a good tickle scratch. Yeah, I know. I also love a relaxing massage. Yeah, I can do those ones too. I can. I'll just relax. And I will tell you it was good because normally they are.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay. Number five. What would you say is the most misunderstood thing about you? My personality. Okay. I feel like people say that I all of a sudden like change my personality from when I was younger.

Okay. Only because like now like within my sport I smile, I laugh, I jump, I dance On the side of like our events or whatever But it's like I've had that within myself I was just I was shut down Yeah, at a young age Yeah

So I think that's one thing to be my personality Yeah I mean is it Oh and that I'm mean Oh Yeah People I've gotten multiple times Oh my gosh like I'm not gonna lie But I thought you were mean when I first met you

I was like do I give like like what's my face? RBA. This is my RBF? I was going to say you've been really mean to us today. I'm so sorry. I guess the truth is out now, guys. She is super mean and she doesn't laugh or smile or joke at all.

Never. But yeah, those are like the two things that I've, they're like, yeah, you know, your personality is just different. It's social media, I swear. Yeah. It is social media. It doesn't help at all. Yeah. I think people are just jealous of like how cool you are.

You just like have like a cool energy. You have a cool energy about you and I think people are probably like, oh, that's scary. She's cool. That's probably the energy. What are we going to do? Number six is who has had the most positive impact on your mental health? I would say everyone that's spoken about it from Simone to Serena Williams to Naomi Osaka to even Michael Jordan when people really didn't know that he was truly talking about it. To a bunch of artists, actually, from one recently was Chloe Bailey, her journey and what she's gone through.

I was like, wow. Like it's almost similar, just like different because mine's in a sport. She's an artist. Megan Stalian, she's spoken about it. So like really truly anybody who has been able to use their voice in such a deep topic. Well, you are also one of those in that list. Thank you. Thank you.

No, thank you. Okay. Last question. Okay. It's a tough one. Okay. I'm ready. Maybe it's easy.

Okay. If you could go back to one moment in your life, what moment would that be and what would you say to yourself? If I could go back to one moment in my life, oh, Jordan, do not cry, would be to when my aunt was alive and apologize for a lot of things that I wish I would. would have been able to say before she passed. That would be one thing. You make me cry out here. Sorry. Well, I think she's looking down on you and knows your heart.

Thank you. So I think she knows your heart and probably knew that too before. Thank you. So sweet. I think this has actually been one of my most favorite interviews. No, you're lying. I'm dead serious. This has been so fun.

Yes. You are just such a light and just so, like, honest and, like, authentic. Like, thank you. You're just like, I feel like we've been sitting here and like, I mean, maybe it was a cheetah girls harmonizing. But I just feel. Started off on the right foot. Yeah, I did.

But, you know, I feel like, you know, we have so many people through here. And especially, like, you know, I don't, I don't know. Like the thought of, like, having like, an Olympian in our home, like, talking to them. Like, it's intimidating, but also, like, you, you're just, like, very, and very authentic and just like. And also your wisdom and perspective is just, you know, beyond belief. Like, it's just, it's really amazing. Like, I learned a lot from you today.

Yeah. And I know our listeners are going to. Hold on. Hold on. Just getting out of here. I love that. So much. It's so fun.

No, but honestly, I would say thank you to you guys, though, for real. having me on, you know, your guys' podcast and just like the understanding of what it's like, that you guys understand, you know, where you've been in certain situations where you had to, you know, speak and do everything that you're doing and to be in the position for you to speak about it now and be able to, you know, tell the world what it was like. I think that's like what really brings the squeeze, no pun intended. Oh, okay. No, yeah. I think it's the opposite, though. Me being in your guys' house.

Like, you don't understand. I've been to met so many, like, people celebrity-wise, like, podcast-wise, like, I think it's more so of just being able to be in a presence of you rather than me being in your house, truly. Oh. The feeling is mutual. We love you. Thank you. Thank you.

This was fun. And that's a wrap. Squeeze out. Squeeze out. Let's go film our Cheetah girls' TikTok. Oh, my gosh. I'm so down. Like we said, quite a phenomenal conversation.

Quite a phenomenal. Jordan. Thank you, Jordan. We love you so much. I can't wait to hang out with you again because we miss you. We just had the most amazing time with you. And I hope that you guys enjoyed that as much as we did. Again, if you haven't seen the TikTok, please go check it out.

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