The Squeeze - Kaitlyn Bristowe: Look At Me, Coping

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

Bachelor Nation’s fireball and podcast queen Kaitlyn Bristowe joins the Lautners to discuss her journey with therapy and navigating life in the public eye. She opens up about her time at the Hoffman inner-child-work retreat, and the work she’s done throughout her life to acquire coping skills. She talks about a life-changing breakup in her 20s from which she ended up addicted to valium, and how therapy brought her out of that dark place. She discusses the fine line that is her relationship with alcohol and the harsh realities of going through a public breakup. Then, the three play a fun Valentine’s Day edition of Sweet and Sour that has them chatting man buns, pet names, and more. Enjoy! Be sure to follow @kaitlynbristowe, @offthevinepodcast, @spadeandsparrows, and of course, @misophonia_misery Thanks to our awesome sponsors for supporting this episode: Hungryroot — Go to Hungryroot.com/THESQUEEZE, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies for life Squeezed.com — Get Same day local delivery or Free Fast delivery nationwide with code THESQUEEZE at squeezed.com Blissy — Get better sleep now with Blissy and use SQUEEZE to get an additional 30% off at blissy.com/SQUEEZE Ritual — No more shady business. Ritual’s Essential for Women 18+ is a multivitamin you can actually trust. Get 20% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/THESQUEEZE. Start Ritual or add Essential For Women 18+ to your subscription today To email us your questions or share your story, you can reach out to [e-mail]. Be sure to rate, review, and follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode! Plus, follow us on Instagram, @thesqueeze and personally @taylautner and @taylorlautner + on TikTok @thesqueezepodcast To learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow @lemonsbytay on Instagram and visit lemonsbytay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Go to your rice-adviseur or sunny-cars. You mentioned, like, struggling with drinking. You own a wine company. Yeah. That is so still struggling. No, just kidding. When life gives you lemons, what do you do with them?

Over here at The Squeeze, we talk about it. Caitlin, welcome to The Squeeze. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. I don't know why I'm trying to match your levels. I'd like you for having me. We are stoked to have you. We've been waiting for this moment.

And before we, you know, dive into the juice, we start each episode with a segment called citrus got real. Oh. Hey, that's good. Right, clever. That's good. I like that. And basically in this beautiful glass jar of lemons, we have very random questions.

If you could pull one for us. If you could make anything rain from the sky, what would it be? Obviously, dollars. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just kidding.

You were going to, like, say puppies. I was going to say puppies. I literally was going to say later. But then I would take all of the rain dollars and buy all of, no, I would rescue all of the puppies. Oh, yes. And buy them all of the, like, most high quality food. Yeah. And give them their best life.

There we go. Yep. Smart. Yep. I don't know why my first, I don't know. My first answer was to say cotton candy. Cotton candy. Like, imagine like.

Just like floating. Like fair, like, level cotton candy. Just like, that's what you would want to fall from the sky. I don't know if that's, that's. That's what I would want. But I read that question. I just saw a cotton candy falling. It's a pretty visual.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's why. Maybe because we were just flying in the clouds look like fluffy. Okay. That's so nice. I'm like, money. Honestly smart.

I mean, yeah, that was the. And then I would do really good things with the money. Yes. Dollar bills, y'all. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I'll stick with like puppy golden retrievers. Yeah. I mean, we all know I'd like that.

With a soft landing. A very soft landing. Little pillows. Yes. Pillows for the goldins falling out of the sky. Could you imagine? So funny. They're like the Grinch.

You know how the babies are in the little thing? Yes. You just come falling down like that. Yes. I'm going to cry. I remember the video, was it of ramen coming out of the kennel like for the first time? Yeah. And seeing you was the sweetest thing ever.

I can't watch it because I just like now he looks like such an old man and I was like, you're such a baby there. No, it's so sad. But I like to picture the kennel as my womb, and he came from that. Yes. Yeah, because he's my baby. How old is he? I don't know.

I think seven. Okay. I'm going to tell myself he's six, but I think seven. Okay. Yeah. He came from, like, China or South Korea. Wow. He's humble beginnings for that one.

Aw. To say it with Pino, they both, Pino was on a meat truck and Raman was in a ditch, like, with a broken hip and, like, fractured pelvis. That is so crazy. I know. I can't even like picture it. I'm like, but I spoil them. Now they live their best life.

As they should. Yeah. I was saying last night I'm like, the dogs, it's their bed and I will sleep uncomfortably for them to be comfortable. Yeah. I love them so much. Yeah. She loves having the dogs sleep in the bed. Yeah.

I love it for a second. I get that. Like the idea of it. And then you're like. Yeah. They're like, yeah. I can't do it. She can sleep like that with them draped all over and pushing her.

I can do. You can? Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I can. You know, usually sleeps on my head, like, actually on my head. And I love it. That would be my actual dream.

Yeah, it's the best. Our dogs won't do that. Mine are very cut. I can get one to wake up right here. You can? Remy will do that. We'll sometimes, too. We'll do this thing sometimes where, if we're, like, gone all day and we feel bad for the dogs.

Yeah. We'll sleep in separate rooms and we'll each bring a dog to bed with us because they normally don't sleep with us. We can't do both of them. Like the two humans and the two 60 pound dogs. Yeah. A lot. You just got to get a bigger bed. Yeah.

Like shacks. Have you seen like pictures of shack's bed? Get a shack bed. We need a shack bed. Yes. Imagine. Or you just like. Two people that are under six foot.

It's a frigging massive bed. Or you just build out your bed and like a little end bed for the dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's what they are. Maybe I'll start a business dog beds that attached to your bed.

Yeah. Shark tank. I bite. I bite. I support it. Okay. We are massive Caitlin Bristow fans. That's very nice.

So we're very excited for this. And when I say we are, I really mean I am. I am too. She appreciates you. Did it, was it like a slow burn? Like you started being like, she's okay. And now you're like, oh, I like her. I'll let Taylor can tell his story.

Okay. I am equally as excited you are here. But Taylor's history of knowledge of you goes back. Okay. Tell me everything. Fair enough. Tell me everything. We will have to get into another funny story that we talked about on your podcast, which we need to share with the listeners because it's crazy.

But my story, I feel like I just need to tell you this. When, okay, I was late to joining Instagram. Okay. I was very late to joining any and all social media. Yeah. And I joined Instagram, I believe in 2016. Okay. I had watched your season, loved you from the season, was already a big fan of yours.

Then I join Instagram and I literally, I just joined. And I asked a buddy of mine. I was like, so how does this work? Like, how do I, how do I tell if like any other celebs follow me? And because you couldn't, it didn't like, you weren't able to. Follow back then or something. Yeah, that was hard. That was a newish feature.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It wasn't easy to figure out, you know, if any other blue check marks followed you then. But he, at the time, this is 2016, he's like, well, actually there's this website. And if you pay for it, you can type in your at and you can see. And I was like, oh, well, I don't have that. He's like, well, I do.

And we can use it. And I'll put in your thing and we can tell. And I like, just joined. But I was so curious. So I was like, sure, let's do it. And we put in my, my at, and I had like three celebs that followed me. And you were one of them. And I freaked out.

I was like, Caitlin Bristow follows me. What are we talking? I've made it. I've made it. I was so excited. I just feel like I needed to tell you that. Wait, I love that. Wait, who are the other two?

I don't remember because all I cared about was you. That is amazing. Yeah. It is pretty fascinating that that is the one. you remember that yeah that is oh yeah it's all i cared i love that i was so excited that's so i feel like that um time in bachelor world was like it was at like the height of a lot of people watching i remember jimmy kimmel telling me he's like or actually was his wife telling me that they have watch parties and it was like jennifer anneson just and timbre like all these people watching my season

and i was like oh i'm just like this little old like Caitlin from laduke alberda being like what is happening what turn did I take in life to get here yeah that's crazy oh my god so crazy that's so that's a thank you for sharing yeah yeah yeah any wait should we just since we're on it should we tell the story that you um told me which one the one where you humbled me no oh no thanks for bringing that up no when i was filming a movie yes and i served you at a restaurant crazy. Yes. In Vancouver. Uh-huh. It was at the Opus Hotel.

Okay. And it was, well, first of all, I had served Robert at Earls. And people went nuts and they would all come in and order what he had, which was the cassadilla and tomato soup. L-O-L. And then I moved restaurants of where I work. I love that people ordered it. They would.

They'd be like, what did he order? And I said, and then they'd all come in and all these girls would come in and get the case-to-a-to-to-to-soop. Yeah. Wow. They started calling it. the rob. And then I moved over to another restaurant at the Opus Hotel. And I think you guys stayed there while you're filming. Okay. Or maybe not, but you always came in there for dinner. Really? And I served you. That is so funny. Isn't that funny? It's just so weird when little

things happen like that. We're like, yeah. Same thing with Jimmy Kimmel. I served him at the same place. In Vancouver. Really? In Vancouver. Yes. He was on a bachelor party. And I ended up sitting with them after my shift. and talking to him and Jeff Ross and like shooting the whatever with him. And then on my season, or when I was on The Bachelor, they're like, we've got a special guest coming in today.

And it was Jimmy Kimmel. And he came in and I was like, Jimmy. And then the date that I ended up getting the one-on-one date and it was me, Chris Souls, and Jimmy Kimmel, and we're sitting there grilling. Oh, I remember this. Yeah.

And I was like, Jimmy. Do you remember Opus Hotel? Like that one night. And I told him, and he was like, oh my God, Caitlin. He's like, he goes, I threw up 30 minutes after you left us that night because I got so hammered. Yeah. Now you're on a date with him. Now I'm in a hot tub with you on The Bachelor.

Like, what? The world works in weird ways sometimes. Oh my gosh. So funny. I think the biggest thing that I learned for that story is, is this like a Canadian thing, casidia and tomato soup? Oh. Because we do grilled cheese and tomato soup.

Or was that just Rob? Or was that just Rob? Yeah, I think that was just the rob. Okay. Great. I was like maybe that's like a Canadian, like one-off. He probably wanted a grilled cheese, but the closest he could get to is just a cheese, casidia. Yeah.

So you do grilled cheese there? Oh, yes. Okay, great. My favorite. Also, why was the Canadian flag blurt out of the? I found out. Okay. Something about the Canadian government, like possibly getting them in trouble.

But when they showed the Canadian girl, I don't have a great explanation. Sorry, that was it. But they showed the girl and she was in Canada and like way in the background, there's a Canadian flag and it wasn't blurred out. But when she came out and did this, it was blurred. Yeah. And Joey, the next bachelor was, or the bachelor right now, I guess, he was on my podcast yesterday. And I was like, what gives? What's with the Canadian?

And the producers, a couple were there. But they said something about the Canadian government. Like they were too scared to get in trouble with them. Interesting. Yeah. We were wondering. She was like, why is it? I was like, I don't know.

He was like, maybe there's like something like, maybe it's not. like a real flag. Like maybe there's like something vulgar on it. Like maybe it looks like a Canadian flag, but it really was like a penis. A penis. Yeah. I don't know.

No, it really was. And then I guess one of the media outlets like Us Weekly or something reached out to the Canadian government was like, is this true? You'd be. And they're like, no,

we wouldn't, we wouldn't have cared. But I think there's stuff they've done in the past. They didn't want them digging into it. Okay. I don't know. I think they just have to be careful with mean old Canada. Mean old can't.

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And then we were here. And then now I'm asking. Another reason why this is kind of like full circle, aside from Taylor's Blue Check Mark story, is we did your podcast like about a year ago. And that was my first live podcast ever. And it's actually like, please don't go. and watch it actually go watch off the vine i was like i ended and i was like i did so bad like what

did i even say and now looking back i was like well because i was like after i was like i did not like say things right and you were like we just need to work on like the verbiage because it's my first time like pitching like it's it's it's definitely not natural to like i mean especially for me like i don't talk about like my accomplishments or things that i've done well when really like you're being interviewed and that's like why you're here they're there to talk about it. I understand that. I was so sweaty.

Like, when we started and I was like, I don't, I don't know. That is so fun. I mean, it ended and I was like, wait, what? It's over. Like, it, like, it went by so fast. But the, yeah. Just make you black out. But that's, I truly, I'll never forget my first podcast and I was so nervous.

But you don't realize that like when it gets edited and it sounds good and they make it sound like, yeah. And you did so good. Wasn't that your first podcast too? Yeah. Oh, actually, it may have been. I think it was both of your first times. Yeah, I had not gone on podcasts.

Yeah, it could have been. Or I'm just telling myself that to shoot my own home or I'm like, both of your first was with me. I mean, knowing me and how big of a fan I am of yours, I probably was like, okay, if I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait to do it for off the vine. Yes. Mix sense. How long have you been in Nashville?

Seven years. Almost eight. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's been a long time, which is so crazy because I really don't feel like I made any friends for the first four years that I was there. Oh, wow. I just, like, hit in my house and, like, didn't want to see anybody. But, yeah, now I feel like it's home. Yeah. Okay.

You love it? I do. That's where you all. Well, I don't know because somebody actually, Victoria Garrick, do you know who that is? Mm-hmm. She asked me on her podcast yesterday, like, if. I hate the question about a five-year plan or if I actually am a person who has a five-year plan. Okay.

And I was like, ask anyone that works for me. I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow. I will figure it out in the morning. And I just like to go where the wind blows me. Yeah. And I don't know where I'm going to be in five years. And so I always think, like, will I be in Nashville? Because I just bought a new house there.

Okay. And I love it. But it's kind of big for little old me. I'm like, what do I need six bathrooms for? I don't know. but I have been hosting a lot of parties. Good. But yeah, it was kind of like an investment, but also I love the house.

And now I'm like, I guess I'm here for a minute. And I do like Nashville. Yeah. We love Nashville. I mean, it's so, it's such a good city. And I love that I can like go to L.A. easy, go to New York easy. Yeah. And then home base is kind of Nashville.

Yeah. It's like a little spot. Yeah, you guys go a lot. Yeah. Is your sister lives? Yeah. Tay grew up going there too. I went to the CMA Festival

Like oh so far Since I was in like fifth grade Really? Yeah And I'd gone So fun I've probably been like Oh 10 times by the time we like met

Yeah Nice Yeah I love CMA Fest No I have I have not been no I know I know what you're doing in June Okay is that when it is Yeah

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as like a suite there. And so then I'm always, I always invite myself. They don't reach out to me. I reach out to them. And I go, hey, you still got that sweet. They're like, yeah, of course we still have it. I was like, so. That's at Bridgetown?

Yeah. Okay. That's a great hookup. So if you guys want to come with me. You can know somebody? Yeah. I got a guy. Okay, perfect.

You're like, I have 20 guys. No. One thing that I think I'm really excited to talk with you about is just how like open you are on all of your platforms because I feel like a lot of people aren't as open as you are. And it's really awesome that you are like that. Is that something that just like comes easy? Like have you always been open with your emotions? Yes. Okay. I didn't even realize that was like a crazy thing for people to do. Right. I was, everyone's like, you're very open. And I was like, oh, aren't we all doing that?

No. Okay. I thought we all were just. like crying on our Instagram. I thought it was like a normal thing to do. But no, I feel like growing up, my family was just very open to, like we would have feelings meetings. Like we would like,

if something happened at school or if my parents got an argument, like we'd all sit down and have like a feelings meeting. And I feel like I've just always been open with my emotions. And then I kind of closed up after I went through a really tough breakup. And I was like, oh, maybe like if I hold onto them, I won't hurt like that ever again.

But The Bachelor, go on that show, it'll just break you right down. Like, I, it's every day that you're talking about your feelings on The Bachelor. So it kind of opened me back up. Yeah. And like, double down on my emotions almost. So then going from Bachelor to Bachelorette, that's, what is that? That's 24 weeks of talking about your feelings every day. So then after it was kind of like, okay,

now I need to reel it in a bit. Yeah. But, you know, social media was just starting to be a thing where it was like kind of your own platform to have your own stories and share not just like this one dimensional character from television that people might see. So I was obsessed with Snapchat because I was like, ha, producers can't produce this. I was like, I get to show my personality and show the ups and downs of life. And I think a big part for me was I grew up reading magazines and I never.

had somebody that like made me feel like they were like me. Like it was always just like, oh, eat an orange and four almonds to have these abs and the man will like you. Like that's really what I grew up looking at. And I didn't have someone where I was like, oh, they're open with their emotions and their feelings and their anxiety and their struggles. And so I was like, I want to be that for if I have younger audience or even like my mom, I feel like I've helped her be more open with her like mental health struggles. And I started seeing people. kind of forming a community through Instagram and Snapchat. And I was like, oh, this is cool.

And so then I just liked feeling like I was less alone and I was helping other people feel less alone. And sometimes it is too much. Like sometimes I'm like, I probably didn't need to share this. But I still like, it's just who I am. Have you ever like shared? Have you ever like shared openly and like woken up the next morning and been like, okay, I wish I could take that one back. Oh, bless Cleo over here because she used to have the Instagram, my Instagram. password and sometimes she would go in and be like, I'm just going to delete it for her sake.

Yes, I definitely have. I mean, sometimes a glass or aid of wine. Maybe I go on a little bit of a, I don't know, rant. Yeah. Spoon and sparrows. But I just do it. I love it. I love being open.

Yeah. I mean, it's definitely like not only that, but it's definitely like made you who you are and why so many people can connect to you and um i mean you unlike in my opinion anybody else have just really taken you know where you came from and just created so many different awesome avenues and i think it's just because you're unapologetically yourself yeah thank you for saying that it's i didn't really know what i was doing half the time but i had a really solid team around me and i think i think that was always just so important to me. I'm like, whatever I do, I want to do it all, but I need to stay true to myself and I need to like build businesses around who I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's so true.

I was talking with Clayu about this. Do you feel like, because I feel like people on the internet just like you're an easy target. Oh yeah. Because you are so like vulnerable. How do you, I mean, how do you like manage that. Well, I do say sometimes I'm like, gosh, I really, I am so easy to to get because I'll be like, here's my biggest insecurities. Like, here's what really makes me feel small and here's what hurts my feelings. And then they're like, well, thank you. We know how to get her. So then all of a sudden, all these, if I've done something to annoy them, all of a sudden, all the trolls are coming up being like, you look really old today. And I'm like, I know right where to like cut to the core of me. They're like, ha ha. So yeah, I do feel like I am an easy target because they know all of my insecurities. They know

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Okay. How, how was that? Or can you explain to our listeners what that is? Yes. So Hoffman is an inner child work retreat. So it's six days of 13 to 15 hours of therapy a day. Oh. And it's a lot.

It's intense. It's really intense. Like, I know that some people will leave after two days because they're like, I can't, I can't do this. I mean, it's really digging deep into like your old shadows and patterns and how your parents like, of course, are doing their best, but things that you learn from them. And it's just a really eye-opening retreat. And it's no phones. So you are not on your, no devices, no computer. You can't work. You just have this small group of people that you're with and then you break out into smaller groups and you have silent times. So like sometimes you wouldn't even talk to somebody in a day, but you're doing like full therapy with your therapists. And then you go to bed and you wake up and they have breakfast, lunch and dinner for you. And they do different visualizations, meditations. We did like some pretty crazy things. Like in the first two days, I was like, that was kind of dumb. And then day three, I was like smashing a pillow with a bat.

Like if you really surrendered to it, it's like I took away so much. much from that. And it was like a lot of time in nature and it was just it was it was very intense. And so coming out of it, I truly was like, I was on the most spiritual path. And I got, I went to Hawaii after because they say go spend a long time with yourself for like two or three days after. Okay. Like don't jump back onto your phone. Like really process what you've learned. Go through your workbook. Like try and do some practices on your own. And I went to Hawaii and I was like, like I thought I was Jesus or something. I was like, I need to see whales. And whales were like breaching out of the water. And I was just like thinking.

I just was so spiritual and so connected that I thought I was like thinking of the whales and the whales would come up. I don't know who I was in this moment, but it was amazing. And I was like, okay, I really want to ask for signs from the universe that I'm on the right path. And I was like, I need blinking lights. Like that's the sign I'm going to ask for. I won't take anything else. I'm going to be looking for blinking lights. I like got into my bathroom to take off my makeup.

up in the one light about me. It was just like, bloop, bloop, just blinking. And I was like, what? So then I find this guy in Hawaii who's, he does Hawaiian blessings. And he usually does it on couples. And I was like, would you be open to blessing my relationship with myself? And he was like, I would love to. And so I met him down.

We went to the water. And he was telling me about like asking for signs and talking to my ancestors. And in my head, I'm going, yeah, I know how to do that. And all of a sudden these sea turtles just come and like start swore. forming me and he and then it started raining and it like never rains in hawaii and he was like you've got magic and i was like i know so yeah go to hoffman everyone's going to be like yeah yeah exactly i mean you have to really want to do that that kind of work but yeah it was amazing it was really amazing and i just learned i i let go of so much resentment to certain

aspects of life with what what my parents like made me believe yeah because of course they're just like They're the most loving parents, but every parent has something that they're going to pass along to their kids. And I found myself letting go of so much resentment. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's on my, it's on my vision board for the year to do some type of. Yeah. It sounds very, it sounds similar to onsite.

It's very similar to onsite. I would say it's a little bit more intense than on site. Okay. But on site is, yeah. And this one, Hoffman is San Francisco, like just outside of San Francisco. Oh. Yeah. Is it just one location?

They have one in Connecticut and then they have one in Canada as well in Alberta. Okay. But yeah, on site, I've heard just incredible things from them too. Yeah. Yeah, that's on my, when I wrote it down on my thing, I wrote on site or mental health retreat because I couldn't remember the one that you said. But when I wrote it down, I was thinking about that thing. That's so cool.

How long have you been doing like therapy prior to, I guess how long have you been doing it? Yeah. So I went through the worst heartbreak of my life where I actually, like you would have thought somebody the love of my life died like I was not okay and that was probably how old was I 25 or 26? That's 26 and he kind of left me out of nowhere but I didn't have anything like I didn't have a dollar to my name I didn't have a job I quit my like dancing career I didn't have second like education I like I did not know I didn't have a home and he was kind of like I know this is rough but like you you got to figure it out and so I called my mom and so I called my mom

and she got me on the next flight to Phoenix. And I was in such a bad place that she was like, like, do you want me to take you to the hospital now? And I was like, yes, I'm not okay. And so I went to this place and I started filling out all these like papers on depression and what I was feeling. And it was bad. It was really bad.

Oh, wow. And so they put me on some medication. But what happened was I ended up getting addicted to Valium because I was like, how, I could just take this pill. and numb myself out for the day and then wake up and like try and eat something but then I can just take another one and sleep and not feel this way

which was obviously very unhealthy and my parents became very worried and then that's when I started therapy and it was like luckily I wasn't addicted to for so long but it was definitely a problem had to wean myself off and then I was like drinking way too much

and then I went back to Vancouver and I started from scratch at a restaurant where I was like I never thought I'd have to go back to a restaurant again here I am hosting at a front door like the age of 27 being like, I don't, like I need that first paycheck. I need to get myself back out there. And therapy really brought me out of that dark hole.

Like my parents were like, you can't stay on our couch forever. Like you are meant to do big things in your life. So if it means going back to a restaurant to just figure out something. Yeah. So I went and started working at the restaurant and kind of building myself back up. And then that's when I started therapy. And it was actually so crazy because I found this one. And my best friend, Brie, helped me find.

I walk to this building and she walks me to the building and I go in and I must have taken the wrong elevator. I go to a mental institution and I walk in and it's like very like like people are unwell in there and there's it's like basically a hospital for like really mentally unstable people. Like I think some guy was trying to come off heroin. Like I was like this actually feels like it could be right. Like I might need to be here. I don't know. And then I was calling her and she was like, oh, I'm actually down the hall of that. You took the wrong elevator.

I was like, okay, a little better. Oh, my God. I was like, this could be it. Yeah, I might need to be here. But it was really, really bad. But I'll never forget the thing that she told me that clicked. And she said, like we got into my childhood and how my mom always tried to fix things because she just loved me so much. And she was like, after listening to you, talk about like everything for 40 minutes.

She was like, you have zero coping. skills like zero your mom has just always jumped in and been there for you done anything your parents would pay for your rent like they would always make sure that nothing bad ever happened to you and you have never had to cope with anything and this is a very severe loss for you and you don't know how to cope with it um and that's when i was like i will pay you anything just keep telling me what i need to do uh and that's when my journey kind of started with therapy so that was probably 26 27 wow yeah i feel like i've so many questions just from i know i know that's a lot That's such a, I don't think I've like heard of that.

What? Like, say the coping thing. Uh-huh. Before. Uh-huh. That's so, like, interesting. But also, I just feel like a very profound thing to like, well, it was very validating because I was like, wow, I really did have like childlike tantrums

over something that I shouldn't have freaked out about. And it, I really realized that, like, all I need to, I need to work on coping skills. Because if I do that, I will grow so much as a human being. And then that's really what I've focused on for so long is just like my coping skills. I see it my sister too. Like she goes, oh, yeah, that therapist was right. Like, we do not have coping skills. And so she's been working on it too.

But it's crazy how, how, yeah, dark. That she's been that you guys like relate on that regard and can help each other out. Yes. Call each other out when you need it. Totally. You mentioned like struggling with drinking. Mm-hmm. You own a wine company.

Yeah. That is so still struggling. It's right here. Delicious. We love tremendously. Thank you. But how, like, obviously, we all love wine here. You love wine.

You have your own wine company. How do you set that boundary of when, you know, when you're going through a hard time, like not. Because, like, you come from a hard day. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely. And it's probably the most easily accessible thing. Like, you have a rough day or get bad news or anything.

The first thing is like, oh, I need a drink. Like, that's always, like, even, I'll have. Like not even a bad day. I'll just have a long day. I'm like, oh, I need a drink. Like, let's go get a mark or let's go get a cocktail or something or have a glass of wine. How do you set that boundary since you have struggled with that before to not let yourself get there? I will always love wine.

Like, I think I'm really trying to find a balance of like I'm 38. Like, I don't need to go blackout partying anymore. Well, I probably do it once in a blue moon. Yes. But I just, I find, and I was talking to my spiritual coach about this where she goes, I want you to like, watch how you're even speaking about wine, like, not even saying like, oh, I need a drink or saying, like, you know, after I worked really hard today, I want to celebrate my day and have a glass of wine. Like, it's even just changing your verbiage around it and how that works in your brain

because I am someone who can easily want to numb myself out, whether that's scrolling. I'm not into drugs, but like drinking, scrolling, like watching a movie, like trying to get my mind off something. And so I think that's how you approach drinking now for me personally. And I have this whole vision around wine where I want it to be like a European thing. Like I want people to just enjoy wine and not think of it as like, God, I need a drink or yeah. Or think of it as a negative thing. Like let's have long table dinners and conversations with friends over a glass of wine. And yeah. Or like even just the way I said like I had a really long day. I'm going to celebrate with a glass of wine, not being like, bang, I need this.

I'm depressed. Like, you know what I mean? It's just changing your thought process around it. Because I will say, drinking wine doesn't give me anxiety. If I drink a whole bottle and I get crushed and I wake up the next day, I don't feel good. I have anxiety. It's like, it's just about what makes you feel good. Some people, alcohol does not work for them.

Yeah. For me, I love a couple glasses of wine and if I don't overdo it, then I'm good. Yeah. Yeah, the intention behind why you're having it. Yeah, it's definitely important. Yeah, well, we love your wine. Thank you. I too love my wine.

Spade and Sparrows. We'll leave a link below. And all that, no, go drink at all. I really do, I want to like reinvent the box wine clue and I've talked about it before because I'm like, that way people like, because if you open a bottle, sometimes you're like, well, like, I should probably finish it. Yeah. Or a box, you could just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Back to therapy. Because, yeah, I feel like we know a lot of people. We know some people like this. And I'm sure we have listeners that are interested in therapy, want to try it, but are scared to. Is there anything you would say to somebody that is feeling that way? Somebody that's curious about it, but is terrified of it. Yeah, I think there's, I would like to know, like, what they're scared of because some people are actually scared of what they'll discover about themselves. That would be for me.

Really? Yes. Okay. I just think there's so many resources out there for people that I think that initial step of going into like an office and meeting someone face to face is really intimidating to people. And I think a lot of people think that person's going to almost shame them for how they feel or be like, well, this is, you know, if this happened to you, this is probably what it is where I feel like online therapy, you can kind of like ease yourself into it or even like listening to podcasts around mental help or therapy. Like there's so many resources out there that people can, you know, use now to even just like start the conversation or start to hear other people's struggles and be like, whoa, I feel that way too. And that's happened to me. And I felt so much shame around that. But, you know, I shouldn't and this person can help me. I just think it's like easing into whether it's, there's apps on phones, there's podcasts, there's. Yeah. And then and then you'll find that that might have made you feel a little bit better. And then you might get a little bit inspired to go find one. my therapist right now is five minutes from my house.

I'm like, yes. Wow. Yeah, I love it. That's really nice. And I think it's just like, I think people also get intimidated because what if you don't vibe with your person right away? And then you're like discouraged. But I always think about this with, I'm on antidepressants and I tried this one brand. And I was like having intrusive thoughts.

And I got really dark and it made me feel sick. And I got these zaps. And I was like, I don't want to try it. one and my doctor was like you just have to keep trying because wait till you see how much better you will feel when you find the right one and now it changed my whole life wow and so I feel like that's kind of same thing with a therapist you can find one that can change your whole life but just like keep trying to find that one that you you feel comfortable with yeah that's very good I know I feel like something I've learned about it is like I feel like some days I'm like I feel like you even feel

this too like I don't I like really don't want to go I don't like have the bandwidth to like like go and like spill my guts for an hour. Yeah. But. And then I walk out and I'm like, oh my gosh, I feel so much better. I can go run a mile. I can do that. Like I'm like, I'm so energized.

It's like, it's like, it's the same thing like going into the gym. Yeah. Like before you go into the gym, before you go into therapy, sometimes, you're like, oh, I just don't know if I have it in me today. But not once have I left. Yeah. And felt like that. Yeah.

He'll be like, oh, I really, like, I'm a, I'm a wife who. Go ahead, babe. I'll book. I'll just book his appointments. Yeah. tell him when he has therapy when he's going. That's amazing. I have to schedule.

So I just should literally be like, oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you you're going in tomorrow. He does this every time. And then he'll and then he's like, really? I have to go. I'm like, you know, you know that the outcome is going to be good. So just go. And then he goes, it's true. That was great.

But it is really hard to get there for some reason. Yeah. And like you said, like going to the gym, it's putting on your shoes and be like, here I go. Like, and then you walk out and you go. So same thing with when I hit my snooze button. If I wake up and start moving, I'm like, why don't I just realize that when I'm laying there? But I'm like, or I could just keep sleeping and feel like crap when I wake up. Yeah.

Like it's all the things. It's like we know what will make us feel good. Yeah. You just have to have that like a little bit of self-discipline to do it. Yeah. Yeah. That's really true. Yeah.

Including therapy. Therapy. Woo! You need to like press a button on that thing where it does that for you. Yeah. What were those buttons? The little, the staples, the red button that Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was easy.

Oh, yes. Yeah, that was easy. Yeah, that's what you mean. Yeah, go to therapy. Yes, you could do that. You could do that on those buttons, guys. Let's get a new button over there. Yeah, I love it.

Okay, I'm going to ask you something. You don't have to answer it if you don't want to, and I mean that. But you recently have gone through a public breakup. Yeah. I am also familiar with public breakups. And like breakups are difficult enough as they are. Especially for somebody that feels so much and so deeply. And I feel like you are that type of person as well.

But then put that, you know, in front of everybody else's eyes. Yeah. It makes it so much more complicated than it already is because you introduce other people's opinions and judgment and all this, you know, it's, it's a lot. Yeah. What have you found was the most challenging part about the public eye of it all? Okay. The most challenging part for me, and I talked about this in therapy, is because I, I always want to protest and I always want people to know a full story.

Yeah. And I have to understand that they will never know the full story. And that makes me want to go protest and tell the world. But my therapist is like you, you have not built enough capacity to just hold sadness and fear because of how badly you got hurt in your past. So you think like, I can't sit in this fear and the sadness and like be really sad about it. I have to be like, well, this happened and this happened.

And he did this and like, yeah, I did this. But he did this. Like that it's like my protest. Yeah. Instead of just sitting and being like, you know what what I felt in that relationship wasn't okay and that's okay and I'm sad. I'm really sad. And so I found it hard to not just like share my story and try and make people understand because

the misogyny out there of it must be the woman's fault. Yeah. When there is two people in the relationship that both made mistakes and even at the end of the day people are like, you hurt him. And I'm like, but we both knew it wasn't the relationship we should be in. And so having everybody think they know the story because they've seen milliseconds on social media and not have them know the full story has made me want to protest instead of just removing the noise and sitting in my own sadness. I think that's been the hardest part. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. How have you been able to do it if you can answer that? Like how. Therapy? Yeah. I guess that's. Well, and... Got therapy.

A lot of. I mean, it's, I think that one breakup that I truly was like, this is going to end me. This will be the end of me. That's how she goes. It's a breakup. I think that showed me that I can truly get through like some really rock bottom moments. Yeah. And so with my other breakup that was also public, that one rocked me like pretty good, but still not as bad as the one before that.

And this one, I'm like, I've got the tools. I know I know that I can get through this. I know that this is the best choice for me. I know that my intuition and my gut is leading me in the right direction. I like have way more confidence in just like my ability to to understand that this wasn't right and move forward and know that that's I'm going to be happy. Yeah. So I think it like I think it was like I've been prepped for this. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean full circle for you. I feel like it's your ability. to cope with it. 100%. Yeah. 100%. I could cry thinking about that.

I want to find that therapist and be like, if I, like, I just wouldn't be anywhere where I am now without that one piece of advice. But yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I also find myself really being proud where I'm like, look at me coping. Like, I have got this. Yeah. And it's like, I really am finding myself celebrating my little moments of when I realize I've done some serious growing.

Yeah. over a long period of time. I was just, I was literally just going to ask you, like, what is something like you're most proud of yourself? Yes. That. I feel like it's the tiny micro shifts in your life that, like, you can look back on after like a decade and go, oh my gosh. How I would have responded to this 10 years ago to how I'm responding to it today, go me. Like, that's huge.

And so I think I, yeah, I'm really, I'm really proud that I've stuck to therapy. Like, Cleo always jokes. And all my friends actually are like, you're very. self-aware and I'm like sometimes too self-aware. Yeah. Like it's I can just go down that rabbit hole too but I'm just really proud that I've consistently worked on trying to be a better version of myself every year. Yeah.

Like even and it's not these like big moments it's all the tiny little micro shifts over the years that have like evolved me into this person who I feel like proud of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that does add up.

I love that for you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Should we get into our fun game? Yeah, we should. Okay. Do you want to ask these quick and then we can do the game?

Okay, okay. So we have a segment called Lemon 7. And there are seven random fun questions that somewhat have to do with mental health. Okay. And they can be more like rapid fire. You can elaborate if you want, whatever you're feeling. Okay. Okay.

Whatever speaking to you in the moment. Yeah. All right. I'm going to kick it off. Number one. What movie? or song title best describes your mental health today. Today?

Ooh. A movie or a song title. Yeah. I feel like everyone probably says this, but immediately Kelly Clarkson came to my head. Oh. What doesn't kill me makes me stronger. I think we've only had that maybe once. I don't know if we have, have we?

I know. If so, once, but I don't know if we have. Well, that's it for me. Stronger. Kelly Clarkson. Yeah. What a banger. I just saved breakaway.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I forgot about that song. Great. It popped up on something. I was like, saving a great song. It's so good. Yeah, it was. She's so talented.

That's, um, my Christmas playlist is all Kelly Clarkson. Love that. Yeah. Has to me. So good. Yeah. Number two. How open are you with people in your life when struggling?

Very. Yeah. Think we cover that in this interview. Very. Love it. Yeah. On a scale of 10. Well.

Yeah, definitely. All right. Number three. This is a new question in the segment. Well, I guess we've done it a couple times so far. If you could only follow three social media accounts. So any platforms, but three accounts, who would it be? What would it be?

Okay. It would be something to do with astrology, crystals. Okay. Anything spiritual, like Spirit Daughter or Chris Korsini is a good. one he reads tarot cards and like talks all about where the planets are and anything astrology yeah that is like my religion um okay so that and then i would follow erin trlor raw beauty talks because she just celebrates everybody and she's doing really good things and i'm i'm now on the board for her charity which is really exciting um which is called free to be and then my other one oh gosh it would

have to be someone really funny that makes me belly laugh oh Who makes you laugh the most? And I'd like to know that. Who does? Honestly, Ariel. Yeah. She really, her facial expressions and the stuff she comes up with, like, probably Ariel Vandenberg. Wow.

That's saying a lot. Yeah. I mean, I agree. She's very, very funny. Yeah. She just, her something, like, she's like the most beautiful human I've ever seen, but then makes the ugliest faces and a cartoon. And that's just like so funny. Yeah, at the same time, she has the most perfect facial structure you've ever seen in your life.

Sheik bones, everything. It feels like she was like designed by, like, by a chisel. Yeah, literally. She's like, she's like, I was going to make a Squidward joke. What, what joke? A SpongeBob joke. Were you going to compare her to Squidward? You know, handsome Squidward when he's all chiseled?

Okay, there we go. Yeah. Okay. Ariel, you are so handsome. We call our dogs handsome And they're girls I call my dog Pino a pretty girl because

A pet medium told me once He likes to be referred to as a girl Stop I'm always like A pet pee-pity! You're pretty girl! No! No! I didn't know that existed. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. I'm about to freaking have that so I can know if we should go down that rabbit hole. Okay, number four What is your favorite form of self-care? Honestly, lifting weights. Okay. Oh, I lift like pretty heavy and I go girl. It truly makes me feel so strong mentally and physically. Yeah. I started before I went on dancing with the stars, I was like

looking for a trainer to like actually make me put on muscle. Yeah. And so I found this one guy, his name's Kevin Klug and he he was like, like I at first I went in, I was like, oh yeah, there's no way I'm going to be able to do this. Like I walked out of there being like, that was the hardest thing ever done in my life. And he, he was. And he was. I was. He's like, all right, you ready for a day after tomorrow? And he's like, just trust me. And after like two weeks, I was like, I feel like I could do anything. Oh, wow.

And I just love it. Like, I love lifting and like grunting and like getting in there. Like I walk out just being like, like, like, I walk out and I'm like, my masculine energy is like on another level. He'll like, he'll like, chest bump me. I'll be like, see you tomorrow, bro. Let's go. Tomorrow. But I'm tired up.

I just feel so good when I work out. I did do. So funny. Yeah, muscle milk. Muscle milk. This pound in protein shapes. Yeah. Like, you got any creatine?

Cretine. I don't know. I just love it. Holy crap. But then on my feminine side. I also have like an eight-step skincare routine that I like at night that it feels like I'm like pampering myself before I go to bed. Yeah. I would see lifting weights, my skincare, and therapy.

There we go. Those balance each other. Yeah. It's a good mix. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay.

Number five. Yeah, I'm curious about this. But what is, what would you say is the most misunderstood thing about you? Oh, people think I'm just like this harsh, like, party girl. It just gets drunk and, like, does dumb stuff. And I actually, like, I feel like so proud of where I'm at my life. I'm like, I'm very responsible. And I have, like, a really huge heart.

and I really care about the people in my life and I like would do anything for anyone and I think they just think I'm this like I'm unapologetic but I'm not carefree like I care a lot and I think people I feel very misunderstood when they think I'm like this harsh girl Right yeah that's a really good point

Yeah of like being yourself but you aren't care for you do Like deeply care or Deeply and I'm highly sensitive and I just feel like I'm a true Gemini like I am that spicy sassy crazy one, but I'm like also very soft and sensitive. Yeah. Yeah. Number six, who has had the most positive impact on your mental health?

Okay, one of my girlfriends, Jess Kanutson, she ever since I've been friends with her since I was 19 and she has always just been this person like, I don't even know how to describe her. She like, she just would call me out on things when she knew I wasn't being me. Like she'd be like, you're only doing that because you like that guy and he likes that. And I don't think this is you. And I don't think you're being who you truly need to be. And she was always just so honest. And like, I was always late and she'd be like, she sat me down and gone, you're actually offending people who like to be on time. And like it seems like you don't care.

And she really like, I don't know. I feel like she built my character a little bit through my 20s. And then that help. I don't, is that mental health? I don't know. I feel like it was. Like she made me. more self-aware and like compassionate, I think.

Wow. And then I'm trying to think of someone else that had the most impact. My God. I don't even know. I mean, that's a great answer. Jessica Newton. I feel like we all need a Jessica Newton in our life. Yes, she's amazing.

And she's just like this calm presence who like really, if you're having to freak out or meltdown, like she can get to the root of like what's actually bothering you. and have a calm conversation with you. She'll, like, rub your feet while she's doing it. Like, she's amazing. I love that. She seems pretty special. Yeah, she is.

Jeez. We all need one of those in your life. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Last. Number seven. If you could go back to one moment in your life, what moment would that be?

And what would you say to yourself? Oh. Um, I would probably go back to my rock bottom. Yeah. And I would probably, I would probably just like, be like, bro, this is what's going to be the pivotal moment in your life. Like, this is what's going to change your trajectory to, like, work on yourself and go in the direction that you need to, like, thank the world for this happening to you instead of thinking, like, you should not be here anymore. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. What do we, what are we doing here? Okay. So this is a very special segment of sweet and sour. It's Valentine's Day. Oh. Edition. Yes.

I love Valentine's Day. So you guys on Instagram helped, uh, I asked for your favorite things about love and relationship Valentine's Day. Also all of the icks. Oh. Yeah. About dating and love and all of these things.

Oh, wow. Um, so I'm just going to say a statement and we're going to, we're going to, we're going to sweet. So sour is ick. Got it. Yes. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. I'm excited. Love it. Okay. Okay. So it's coming out on Valentine's Day. Perfect.

If you can tell. Okay. First one is they call their mom every day. This is like your partner. I find it sweet. They call their mom every day. I mean, it depends on the relationship they have with them. Yeah.

I know. Okay. I'll say sweet as long as it's a healthy, healthy phone calls. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's good. Like I'm like, I try to put, I think it's like, if they're calling to be like,

what should I wear or to go to? To go to like to work today, I'd be like, that's a neck. Yeah. But if you're like, hey, just checking in, like, love you mom. Yeah. Sweet. Sweet. That's good.

I'm doing this. Yeah. Yeah. 50, 50 depends on what it is. Okay. This one says, you went on your first date a week before Valentine's Day and they are wishing you a happy Valentine's Day a week later. Sweet.

You went on a date and they don't wish you happy Valentine's Day? I'd be like. But it's a first date. Like you went on. a first day a week before Valentine's Day. I'm kind of saying it. I think I am too. Like in my mind, when I read that, I'm like, okay, I just like went on like a first day with

someone. I just met them. Like, there's always a loophole though because I'm like, yeah, but what if you were like, oh good, he's on the same page as me. I'm obsessed. And he's like being sweet or what if the date was bad. It better have been a really good first date. Yeah, I'm saying sweet.

Okay. Okay. You don't have to agree. No, I'm not. I'm a sick of sour. I'm not. It's funny. It's funny because I feel like we we started dating very briefly before Valentine's Day and you went all out on Valentine's Day.

Aw. See? Sweet. It's true. You did do that and I did say ick. Did I give you? Wow. Here we are. Here we are.

Okay. This one was interesting and I feel offended by this one. They almost exclusively wear sweatpants. Oh. I think sweatpants are hot. Sweet as can be. Yeah. I wear.

Thank you. Aside from at this moment, because these are baggy jeans, I, like, exclusively live in sweatsets. Yeah. No, that's how you know a good person. Yeah. A person that lives in sweats. They're humble. They're humble.

And they're comfy, which means they're happy. Yes. Yeah. Amen. And I like dudes and sweatpants. Yeah. I'm into it. That's a look for you.

Yeah. That's three sweets right there. Okay. They call you, hun. I'm triggered by that right now. Oh, really? Okay. Sour.

Okay. That's only what I call Taylor. So I will not call him that. I think just for for Caitlin, we all should be sour on this. Gross. The hon. Ew. Who would do that?

It is kind of sweet. I'm just being bitter. We need a sour. Yeah. We need a bunch of buttons. We need some buttons up in here. Did you ever watch I Carly? Or Sam had like a, she had, they like filmed their little web show and she had like a little remote that had all the sounds and things.

That's what I need. Okay. You know you have one. Yeah. The roadcaster. Yeah, it's just a little far for me. Oh, okay. Here's a second one right there.

Yeah. Just put it there. I know what I'm getting up for Christmas. L. A. Um, next one is, um, they have a lot of money but live with their parents. Oh my God. Ew.

They have a lot of money but live with their parents. That is, I'm going to definitely an egg. Okay. I think because that means they're not like self-sufficient. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's something going on deeper.

They need to, that would probably mean like their mama's boy need like, they don't know how to like make their bed or away from the nest. Yeah, like live with your parents. Like that's totally fine. But yeah, if that's the case specifically, there's there's something going. It's the setup of it. They have a lot of money. So if they don't and they live with the parents, I'm like resourceful. This is like you guys said, I didn't write these.

They have. This sounds like somebody specifically is going through this. If you wrote this, please, Evolus at Lautner dot the street. We need to talk about this at gmail.com and let us know. They have a lot of money, but they still live with daddy. Yeah, but I see why you're still hanging on. This is a predicament. We would love to hear more.

Please let us know. And then please keep me posted too. Oh my gosh. Okay. Next one is they're covered in tattoos. Oh, sweet, hot, sexy, all the things. I love it. I do like tattoos, but I'm doing.

doing this because you have one. I better get working. Yeah, I have one mini tattoo. Oh, oh, you like tatted up, bros? Check that out.

That's my sleeve. I'm a bad boy. You are so bad. I'm a motorcycle. I say that, but like my last two relationships, no tattoos. I'm like,

yeah, it's odd, but I'll probably want to date you if you have them. It's funny how that works. Yeah, it really is. Um, man buns. Man buns.

I'm going to, I'm going to say sour, but yeah, it's like, if you're like, okay, if it's like Chris Hemsworth man bun. Yeah, then it's sweet. He can pull that off. As long as it's not super greasy. Yeah, man buns usually are. I don't want to be like in bed with you with your grease on the pillow. My head's like right there.

The only sweet man bun that I'll say is David Beckham. Oh, David Beckham in his prime. He's still in his prime. but like when he will always be in his prime yeah yeah forever otherwise sour yeah getting serenaded by them singing to you so someone's serenading you with song i'm gonna say sour here yeah i'm not sure about that unless they're like a yeah but even if they are then it's yeah oh maybe it's more icky yeah oh that just saying what i'm not gonna say who it is our friends live in an apartment building.

Oh gosh. And there is a singer that I will tell you. A known singer. And he brings girls to his apartment and sings to them. They're all the time. They see him, multiple girls all the time, different girls all the time, on his balcony singing to them. And that is clearly like, it's his party trick.

Yeah. I feel like a lot of guys who play guitar and sing, that's usually their party trick. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm, it's, yeah. No, I'm definitely going to go in this one. We're going to go sour on that one. And I have, honestly, like, not to bring it back here, sorry, I know I'm a fanboy.

But the first thing that came to my mind is I have seen it on several seasons of The Bachelor, and it's never been great. No. It's never, I've never said that was a great idea. No, no, no, never. Not once. Not once. I can't. It's usually like a cringe moment.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fair. Baby talk. Oh, God. I like baby talk. What?

I mean, what are we talking? I feel like it's been incorporated more because of how we talk to Remy, like the puppy. And now. Okay. She's judging over there. Well, you had me at dogs then because I was like, I talk baby to talk to my dogs all the time. Yeah. I feel like it's kind of infiltrated into when we don't have a dog, Taylor will.

I get the affection that Remy normally gets. Well, that's cute, though. That is cute. but okay but you're in general not a fan maybe behind closed doors yeah like once in a while but like yeah I think if I'm I think I'm thinking of things like out in public

like I don't know I guess if you were to do that in public I'd be like I don't yeah I don't think we bring it We just do like pet names What do you guys call each other Well mine is the one that we all The one that we don't like

on a lot. Oh gosh. I can stop. Taylor has a lot of self-made. Taylor is the king of nicknames. Oh, I love that. And they just kind of like spiral. Yeah.

They like I'll get. Yeah, I'm like the, like if we hang out for an hour, I'll have one for you. And then we hang out for two hours. The one I gave to you like branches off and becomes something like different. Yeah. And then we're like, I'm calling like my dogs like... We literally call Remy Petunia. I get it. And it's like where did that come from?

Well, I could backtrack it and tell you where it came from, but it makes no sense. I call Raman Wami Lami doodle all the day. That's good. And like my godson, his name's Chandler and I call him Tudy, Poodie, Mr. Baby. Like I will come up with anything that's not anything to do with their names. I got some weird ones for her. Like I call her, I think I've maybe toned it back, but I call her Scooper. Oh.

And it, it, it don't ask me why. It started with Pooper Scooper. Okay. Uh-huh. Yeah. Don't know how we got there. Well, maybe it was Schmooper. And then now she's just scoop.

Like I'll tell you scoop. Oh, Scoop's cute. I'll call her Scoop. I like it. It's just, I have so many crazy ones. I like no sense. I really do like nicknames. Yeah.

Yeah, you have some of flattery. They really, they really just trickle down there. Spiral. Let's see. Where's the next one? When a guy takes mirror selfies. Oh, my, ick. If it's, if it's a, if the first thing I literally thought of was like a TikToker, like in the bathroom, like mirror selfie.

Like if it's like a, if it's like a chill, like, I don't even like a selfie. Here's my guy. I don't even like a selfie on a guy. A mirror. I had a mirror. That was a whole level of duchery. And then he's whispering hon. Yeah.

Oh, God. Make it stop. Make it stop. No. I just don't like... Yeah, no. I do enough of that in my own life. I don't want a guy to do it.

Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. Next one is a giant teddy bear as a Valentine's Day gift. I think that's sweet. Did you do that? No.

We still have it downstairs. Really? Oh, I think that's sweet. And it wasn't the first time. Wait, I was... Wasn't it. Wait. I got you one.

You got me a giant one downstairs. It's technically a unicorn, but it's a giant bear. Oh, I wasn't thinking that's not a teddy bear. He's thinking about different. Nothing. That's really sweet. My parents always said me a different relationship, a different Taylor. Oh, no.

Oh, wow. Interesting. That's, I love it because Valentine's Day sometimes when people are single, they get bitter about it. But I love it because my parents always like send me a nice loving message. and like send treats and that's cute. Just like a day of love. I forgot that you were in a movie called Valentine's Day. As we've been saying Valentine's Day, what.

Oh, yeah, I remember that movie. And my character gives her the giant bear. Yeah. Yeah. Funny. I remember that. Yeah. Is that what inspired you to give me a giant unicorn?

Yes. Say yes. That's funny. It's a yes. Okay. Yes. Absolutely. Literally still downstairs.

I haven't got rid of it. Wait, who is your girlfriend in that movie? Who played? Swift. Oh, yeah. Oh my gosh. Right. He just said that too. Oh, yeah, that's so funny. Crazy.

Yes. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive? That's crazy. What a time? Okay. This one, I literally read and laughed out loud next to Taylor. When a guy asks for your Snapchat.

Why is that kind of sweet? No. No. Why is that kind of sweet? I'm like, that means he's like a lot younger and he like thinks I'm young or something. No, that's like, that's like, that's like, oh, wow. Compliment. Immediately takes it as a compliment.

No, that's like, like typical, like F boy. Like, I'm just like, I just feel like, okay. If it's F boy, yeah. But if it's a young boy thinking I'm young, sweet. Oh, my gosh, I'm leaving it there. Oh, that was so good. They love telling you, did you skip that one? No, I'm about to say it.

Oh, oh, oh. They love telling you about their high school years. Oh, I hate that. I hate it. I'm, yeah. you tell me about your high school years a lot I don't I think you do

I don't think I do I mean you know sometimes Can I justify mine though Yeah It's because I feel like it's when they think like they had peaked in high school Yeah that's definitely not why I'm telling you No you're not You're probably reminiscing

It's not like a brag it's not a bragging Oh it's just telling you about my trauma That's why he thinks it's sweet Yeah because you're trying to convince me to go back to your reunion. Oh. She literally, she hasn't had her 10 year yet. Next year.

Next year. What? I'm on my 20th reunion. Oh my God. Okay. This one's kind of funny. Yeah. We're almost done. They check off almost all your boxes, but they chew really loud.

A loud, open chewer is a killer. You guys suffer misophonia? Is that a real thing? Yeah. It more so, it's not an ick, it's more of like a, I get hyper focused on it and I can't. And does it make you angry? Uh-huh. Yeah.

Yeah. No, that's a bad thing. That is a deal breaker. Yeah. Misophonia is a real thing for me. It's, wow. Yeah. I just recently learned what that was or that.

I started a support group on Instagram if anyone would like to follow. It's misophonia underscore misery. No way. Yeah. We've built quite the community over there. We talk about like solutions and coping mechanisms and then we like to have funny memes. It's great. We'll link it down below.

Okay. Thanks. That's what we came on this podcast to promote. Hey, people really suffer. Yeah. Holy crap. There's a whole world. There's some people struggling out there.

Yeah. Okay. Last one. They've been a part of the Bachelor franchise. God. I still say I still say, I probably like, it's like in the family. It's just like. Like, I get it.

I get it. When I started dating Jason, I was like, no chance. He's from Bachelor. No chance. I'll, like, go on a date with him, but like, no chance. And I was like, oh, oops. I still say it today, though. I still find it to be an egg.

I will, I will say. I feel like there's like a cutoff in my mind. What do you mean? Of when it became an egg. Yes. There was an exact time period where the show went from being. what it was to what it is now and like yeah it's different now yeah i think if a girlfriend were to be like i've like this guy he was just on the last season of the bachelorette i'd be like please

don't do that yeah how far did he make it yeah how many followers was he had now yeah yeah exactly does he does he show up at bachelor influencer events oh yeah hot yeah that it's sweet then it's a sweet oh my gosh okay that was our that was our sweet that was so fun. That was great. Oh my gosh. Thank you guys for having me on my cheeks like hurt. Yeah, I love that like we're literally able to have such like swing of conversation. Yeah, I, I knew we would and I really enjoyed it and I just love what you guys are doing with everything. So thank you for having me be part of it. We love you so much. Thanks for following me on Instagram. Yeah.

That made me feel really good about myself. Wow. Full circle. Full circle moments. So many circles that have closed tonight. Yeah. And we'll end with good to Theron. Okay. Boop. Boop. Squeeze out. Squeeze out. Thank you so much for squeezing us into your day. Please be sure to rate, review, and follow our pod and check out full episodes on YouTube. You can follow me at Taylor Lautner, my lovely wife, at Tay Lautner. Check out the squeeze on Instagram at the squeeze. And also give a little glance and a follow to Lemons by Tay. That's at Lemon by Tay on Instagram and lemons by Tay.com. And also be sure to email us, lapner.

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