The Squeeze - Kristin Juszczyk: Behind the Seams

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

In this week’s episode, Tay and Taylor are joined by fashion designer Kristin Juszczyk! Kristin shares how she met her husband, San Francisco 49ers fullback Kyle Juszczyk, what their training life and in-season routines look like, and her favorite stadiums to visit. She opens up about her introduction to fashion and how she taught herself to sew, starting with a small boutique and DIY Halloween costumes before turning her passion into Off Season, a full-fledged fashion brand. Kristin talks about the story behind making Taylor’s jacket and how that ultimately led to landing an official NFL licensing deal. She also reflects on losing her mom to breast cancer at just 18, the grief journey that shaped her, and how that strength continues to fuel her today. To close, she gives us a look at her latest drop, her vision for the future of Off Season, and what she’s most proud of so far!Be sure to follow Kristin on https://instagram.com/kristinjuszczyk/!Check out Off Season here: https://www.offseasonbrand.com/To email us your questions or share your story, you can reach out to [e-mail] sure to rate, review, and follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode! Plus, follow us on all of our socials:The SqueezeInstagram: https://instagram.com/thesqueeze/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@thesqueezepodcastTay LautnerInstagram: https://instagram.com/taylautner/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@mrstaylautnerAmazon Storefront https://urlgeni.us/amazon/FDXj7 Taylor LautnerInstagram: https://instagram.com/taylorlautner/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@taylorlautnerTo learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow https://instagram.com/lemonsbytay/ and visit https://lemonsbytay.comEpisode Sponsors:Visit gruns.co and use code SQUEEZE at checkout for up to 52% off your first order.Use the code “SQUEEZE” at Rhoback.com for 20% off your first order — now through the end of this week.Don’t let financial opportunity slip through the cracks. Use code SQUEEZE at monarchmoney.com for half off your first year. Right now, Tonal is offering our listeners $200 off your Tonal purchase with promo code SQUEEZE.Complete your fall look. Go to thrivecausemetics.com/THESQUEEZE for an exclusive offer of 20% off your first order.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I was like, sorry, what? That weekend changed my whole life. I texted it to, like, Kyle's sports agent. And I was like, this is a revolutionary? It was the most insane thing. How did you and Kyle meet? We met on Facebook. My friend requested him.

First saw his last name. Were you like... Did someone fall asleep on a keyboard? Philly. My bad. Love the Philly scene. She tapped my shoulder and I turned around. She went, glitter all in my eye, and then she was like,

this is the worst thing that happens is you today? And you're lucky. And I was like, I was like, what is this? The purge? Like, yeah. Me too. Kyle and I wanted to be Justin and Brady Spears from the VMAs at like denim on denim look. I'm just like delusional.

And I'm like, I can make that. Now was like so engulfed in like the NFL life. Then it became like our lifestyle. I always kind of knew. I've never seen anybody like this. I don't even think I told you guys this whole story. It was even crazier than that. Kristen.

Hi. Welcome to the squeeze. Thank you. This is funny. Just so listeners and viewers understand we've been sitting here talking for about 45 minutes. And we were down in our kitchen eating baked potatoes and ground bison. Yeah. So to say, Kristen, welcome to the squeeze as if we're starting this conversation.

Do I not shut up? Am I the problem? Isn't me? I think it is me. It needs me. No, I think it's just we haven't seen you in so long. There's a lot of catching up. There's a lot of topics to talk about.

There is. I think we'll talk about some of them, even though we have already talked about some of them. Yeah. But we do start each episode off this jar. It's a game called Citrus Got Real. If you want to pull a little piece of paper out of there. Okay, can you move this? Yes, you can. I'll do that one. Right on top. Drum roll. What's your most used app in your phone? Oh, that's so easy, Pinterest. Oh, wow. I am on Pinterest 24-7. Is that like for, like, fashion things? Yeah, for fashion stuff. Like, I look at it for design and spell all the time.

I'm constantly wanting to remodel things, so I'm always like looking at. I love like tablescapes. I feel like you like tablescapes too. Yeah. I should really use that more for tablescapes. You should. Yeah. Like I'm already looking at like, what do we do for Thanksgiving?

Oh, yeah. It's really, I love it when I'm on flights and stuff. Yeah. If I have Wi-Fi, I am just scrolling Pinterest all the time. I get really inspired by it. I love that. I mainly use Pinterest for like nails. Nails?

And whenever I get like my nail and so I always like, I'm just scrolling it and seeing what. ideas take it for my oh that's good recipes oh always Pinterest oh god like Pinterest you don't have Pinterest

not really oh my Kyle uses it all the time really are you a big cooker yeah yeah Pinterest all the time wow what does he use it for recipes really he cooks yeah loves to cook he actually like now has taken over

cooking more than I have yikes he's not happy about it Nothing wrong with that. I'm definitely the cook in our house. You're also not like... I'm not the cleaner. Oh yeah.

Kyle's not either. I hate. You're going to love this story. So, here we're going on. We're at our wedding and our vow, like Kyle vowed up there and he was like, I vowed to like always do the dishes when you cook. And my uncle John and the crowd goes, you're going to regret that one. Like in front of everybody and everyone starts laughing. Oh.

Oh my. Oh my gosh. Has he kept up to that, Val? Well, now it's kind of like he's cooked and I've cleaned and he's kind of helped clean. I didn't bow that. Yeah.

He's the one who vowed that. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I need to, I need to cook more so you can clean more. No. I enjoy.

The thing is though, Taylor, like, loves cooking. That's like his art. Love prepping. Like, that's what I don't like about it. That's therapeutic for me. Really? Yeah. That's awesome.

I love cooking too. It reminds me like being like a family because that's being an Italian. Like that's literally how we show love. It's just like cooking for each other. So I love that aspect, but I just like having a whole workday and then having to prep and cook and clean. DoorDash is just really racking up for me. No, it's like one or the other. Either on making like a full meal.

Yeah. Or we're just post-mating something. Always. I mean, we've been talking about football, honestly, since you got here. But I want to know, like, I think I know the answer. Do you look forward to football season? Oh my gosh, yes. Even though it's like by husband.

You kind of losing your husband for a bit. Is it by husband? No. No, it doesn't work like that. I think in my brain, what does it look like? Yeah, what does like the week look like for you? Yeah. So I would say, and I also like don't know too much about other professional athletes, it's like their timing.

but from what I've heard, football is the most like 9 to 5 sport in comparison to the other types of leagues. Yeah. So he, it's definitely like there's no days off during season, but he goes in probably at like 7 a.m. every day and then he's home around like four. Oh. And it's like not. I mean, I work a whole day too, so it's like, it's fine. Even during training camp? No. Training camp is a whole different situation.

Yeah. Like they can't sleep at home, so they sleep in a hotel. And so like for probably a month Yeah, the hardest part is that training camp Like for a month we're really not seeing each other that much Wow It's like every third or fourth day is off But off doesn't mean anything

Because at least from my husband He still goes in and gets massages, acupuncture He does all his recovery stuff on his off days So it's not like on his off day It's not like he doesn't go into the facility He's there the whole day Yeah So it doesn't really make a difference

But then if it's a home game game, they still have the sleep in hotels before the games. Yeah. So, but I mean, I still feel like we see each other a lot. And I go to every single game. So I go to all the away games. You go to every game. You go to every game.

Wow. Mm-hmm. That's incredible. I love it so much. And mainly because me and Claire Kittle are such good friends and our families are now like literally family with each other. Yeah. So we all go as a package.

It's so fun. Yeah. It's fun to like explore all. explore all the different cities and away games are so much fun. I mean like going to a new stadium and like kind of seeing their culture and stuff I love. The lion's stadium is one of the few that I've never been to. Really? We've never played. We haven't played there. No, I don't think you have. Yeah. And don't this year, right? I know we don't. No. Dang. I know. Okay. Well, out of curiosity, what's one of your like favorite cities slash stadiums to go to them? Okay. Packers.

Really? By far. Bluh. And I'll tell you why. Well, it usually depends on what the game was like, you know, that. Yeah. But, like, it's just so iconic. The stadium?

Yeah, the stadium is old and it's iconic and there's bleachers. Yeah. And it was snoring. It was snowing, like, crazy when it was snoring. It was snowing, like, crazy when we went. And the tailgate scene is, like, insane. Like, the Midwesterns just, like, really know how to tailgate. Yeah.

And it just was so cool. Like we were wearing these snowsuits. It was like dumping snow and it just felt so football. Oh yeah. Did you, it was that the one you guys had like the matching little like snow suits? We've worn snow suits twice. Okay.

Because of how it is and we're from California now. I think like growing up in the East Coast and Kyle starting with the Ravens, like East Coast football is so different than West Coast football. Yeah. Like it's just so much more like gritty and like just really feel it. Whereas like West Coast it's, I don't know, just not the same vibe. Yeah. But the Bill stadium. Oh my gosh.

I, and we got destroyed when we went there, but it was one of my favorite football experiences ever. Wow. I love snowing games, I guess. Sounds like it. Yeah, like they were all throwing snowballs when the bills scored,

and their tailgate scene is, you guys. I imagine. You have to go experience it. Like if I, obviously I'm a 49er fan through and through, but like I was like, I may have to be a Bill's fan when Kyle retires

because those games are so much fun. Wow. Oh, wow. I love that. And then I actually love SoFi. I love the Ram Stadium. Yeah. I mean, it's a beautiful, like, the structure itself is stunning.

Structure is beautiful. The DJ there, like, is always so good. I swear to God, the crowd's always dancing. And the music, like, the acoustics just are really loud. They put on a good little show. Honestly, they're really, there's not many stadiums that I don't like. Have you been to Philly? Oh.

That was a great topic. My bad. I love the Philly State. No, here's the thing. I'm a New Yorker. She goes, there's not many things I don't like. I was like, have you been to Philadelphia? That's hilarious.

One thing about me, like, I am not sensitive, like, at all. Like, I just think it's growing up, like, as a New Yorker. So, like, I can appreciate it. Like, when people are, like, screaming horrific things at you, I'm like, yeah. Fuck me too. You know, like, everyone, it's, I think it's funny. And, like, I love the passion. what I love about Philly is when you land there

like the entire plane is wearing Philly stuff the entire city is wearing Philly stuff you can't go and you the wages will drop a check off and they'll be like go birds like it's such a culture have you ever been uh uh okay you have to experience if you ever need a buddy like maybe Claire can't go to a game just let me know

even if Claire comes come okay great it's so much fun we literally I feel like we go on like I feel like a groupie like we're like a band tour yeah like we're just like following the band around you know um but it's just something you have to experience affiliate. I mean, like, but you have to not be sensitive. You know what I mean?

Because they're going to scream stuff at you. They love it. They love like getting in your face and like cursing you out. And you just have to, you have to laugh. Just don't reciprocate it. Yeah. Are you really able to still go to an away game if you're not in a box? Like you and Claire, like, can you really do that still?

I mean, of course. We can. I definitely can. I mean, we've been like fortunate that a lot of brands that we work with. have like hooked us up. Yeah. Because as you guys know, they're so much money.

Yeah. It's insane. But there was a game last year that you guys were right behind the end zone. Yeah. And I was like, Hey, I was like, how are they doing this right now?

Not getting like eaten alive. Oh, oh. Oh, when we were in the sands. Yeah. When we played the Vikings. I mean, I would say that. And Minnesota,

I've had rough experiences. Yeah. That's also one of my other favorite stadiums because I hit snows. I guess I have a snow ice. You. I'm like really realizing things about myself sitting in the show. It's, but have you been?

Like it snows inside. Like they like do a whole theatrical thing where, because they're like the Vikings. It's a beautiful stadium. Yeah. I actually, we had a fan experience there too once. But,

um, I don't know. Like, we're just, we're at, because I'm not sensitive, you just have to like swallow it when people, you know,

if you're, if I'm wearing something with Kyle's name on it, like, and it doesn't even matter. if we win or lose. Like, you know, people are going to say things and opposing team. But honestly, I'm going to be honest, I really have had, like, such amazing experiences. I have only had, like, Kyle's been in the league for 13 years now.

And I've only had, like, two. That's crazy. People are honestly usually really nice. Wow. Yeah. I think I'm just too sensitive. Also, I was going to say that. And she's a pretty girl and you're, like, a guy.

So. No, I mean, I've had some crazy experiences. I'm not going to, like, name where because I don't want to, like, piss the fan base off. But, like, some girl was like, hammered and touched my shoulder and she was like trying to like rile me up because that's like they'll you know they'd be like use check suck blah blah blah blah blah and i'm just like yeah oh yeah and she tapped my shoulder and i turned around and she went and she blew glitter like in my face and i was so startled and it was all in my eye and then she was like if this is the worst thing that happens

is you today then you're lucky and i was like i was like what is this the perch like and i'm just like okay I was like, listen, I'm trying to be a good sport. Like, please stop touching me. Like, just please stop touching me. And I had glitter like all in my face. Glitter? It was wild. And like, so there's like, then I just, you know, you got to laugh.

Because what is the other that you're going to get in a fight? Yeah. A fist fight? Yeah. I literally, I got tackled at in Minnesota. He got checked from behind. I was, we were running. Like sucker punched?

No. We were jogging out. What did you say? What did I say? Yeah. Did you say something? It was an old. It was a.

very old drunk man. He was like seven. And he like chase me down from behind as I was running and just... Just because you were wearing a jersey? Yeah. Yeah. We were being heckled the whole game. And then right before the game finished, we were like, let's get out of here.

So we started like running out of the stadium. Yeah, yeah. And I'm jogging out and all of a sudden, oh, get just chucked. And I go to the ground and... Shot up. When was this? This was... 2018.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Did anyone get involved? No. I just stood up and kept going. Yeah. Good for you. That's hard though.

That's the hardest thing to do. But also, I just don't even people touch me like that. Yeah. Especially just punched. It wasn't glitter in the face. Yeah. But Minnesota won. The face is don't.

Yeah. That was a lot. It was painful in the eyes. Like imagine all the glitter in the eyeballs. No. No, no, no. But Minnesota won that game. That's what also I don't understand.

I'm like, you won. Like, don't, like, sure, yell, but like, pursue victory with honor. Yeah. That's what Kyle wears a wristband. Really? They could, this fan could have used some of that. So something new that I have been loving lately is Roback's brand new

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That's tonal.com promo code squeeze for $200 off. How did you and Kyle meet? Do you know the story? I don't know. We met on Facebook. What? Wow. Yeah.

Do you want me to get into the whole thing? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I just transferred colleges. My uncle John was visiting his, I mean, his daughter who went to a nearby school. Okay. And he had bought Ravens tickets because I went to school in Maryland. Okay. And she didn't want to go.

And so he called me and was like, do you want to come? I'm like, I sure I've never been to an NFL game. I didn't grow up in like a huge NFL family. We come from like fishermen as you guys Like surfers and like boaters We like we grew up on the water So we were like very like water sports And I grew up dancing

So it wasn't like we were that big of like an NFL family So anyway so I went And we were in the nosebleeds And they were playing the Panthers And they were up like 30 points at half time So everyone was leaving It was clearing out So Uncle John was like let's go try to get behind the bench

In his nature you know Yeah I'm like okay So we sit behind the bench and I saw Kyle and I was like oh my gosh 44 so handsome And I had the pamphlet because you know I was like my first time I was like yeah I'll take the pamphlet I'll take all the goodies like you know what I mean I'm just like going through the pamphal like reading stuff and I saw Kyle and at that time I really didn't know too much about the NFL and I thought they were like a lot older and I was 20 and I was like oh he's only 23 and like oh he went to Harvard okay They're like, shoot.

Yeah, yeah. But that was it. And then, like, a few weeks later, I was with a bunch of girlfriends, and I was telling them about him and, like, oh, see if he has a Facebook. Because it was, like, before Instagram was, like, Facebook was the go-to. Instagram existed, but it was... Facebook was the go-to there. Then I'm really aging myself.

And so my friend requested him, and he started, like, liking my photos from, like, years ago. Like, I could tell he was, like, stalking, you know? Oh, he was into you. Yeah. Yeah. We tell this story on the Kittles podcast, and it's really hilarious from his point of view because there was like a picture of me

in a sunflower field, and I guess that one got him. So I was like, ladies. Get that one got. You look into find a man. Take their shirts and sunflowers. I had a photo like that. Is that what got you, Taylor?

Was obsessed with, before we were, like, dating. No, I was sitting. Gumbballs. No, it was sprinkles. Sprinkles. There was, like, an ice cream museum? Or there was some, like, cute art installation. You're like, And I went with my girlfriends and I'm like, I have like my little like space buns,

like my hair half of half down space ones and I'm sitting in like this pool of sprinkles. Yeah. And Taylor for the longest time was like this photo, you're just so cute and that. I'm like, what? And when I would show people photos of her, that would be the photo. That was like the main photo. She's not so cute. Yeah.

Yeah. That's hilarious. So there you go ladies. Sunflowers and sprinkles. So he's like, so he's liking all. Maybe he's just like they. Men are weird. So simple.

So simple. It's so simple. Just on a sweet girl. Sweet girl, sprinkles, sunflowers. Space funds. It's the S's. It's the S's. So he's liking these photos.

And then he never messages me. And I'm like, the hell? And so I was pre-gaming like in college as like a natural college student does. And I had like some liquid courage. Yeah. And they were like, just message him. What do you have to lose? I'm like, okay.

So I messaged him and he responded and we just like were chatting. And then he asked me out to dinner. And we went out to dinner. and I was so nervous because I was like, I'm 20 years old, not mature enough for this. Like, I don't meet people. Like, I've never, I've never gone on a date with someone that I didn't know. Yeah.

Like, I, you know, go on date with, like, friends or. That's intimidating. Yeah, at 20. And, yeah, we went out to dinner and we, like, closed the restaurant out. We were there for four hours. Oh, my gosh. Probably because I was talking so much.

And it was really a history from there. Like, I remember leaving and being like, wow, I think I just met my husband. And I wasn't in that part of my life where I was even, I was not looking for even a boyfriend. I just was like, oh, this would be fun. We'll go to dinner. And yeah, it was really history since I. We were like inseparable ever since. Oh my gosh.

Didn't move pretty quickly? So fast. He met my family two months later. My entire family came to Christmas Eve. Like we have this huge Italian Christmas Eve in New York, which now like looking back at it is so crazy that like from Maryland and he like definitely didn't have an off day like drove. to New York, came to my Christmas Eve and then drove home.

I was like, he would never do that now. I was doing something, right? But, yeah, it moved so fast. Yeah, really fast. When you opened the pamphlet and saw his... You have the pamphlet still? No, I wish I saved it.

Oh, you wish you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you first saw his last name, were you like, yeah, I could do that. I'm like, did someone fall asleep on a keyboard? That's so good. What happened here? Where's the vowels?

Where's the vowels? Fell asleep on your keyboard? Yeah, that's so good. I'm happy it hit. But yeah, no. It's one of those names that's like not hard to say, but it looks really intimidating when you like read it. It's just a weird combination.

I remember when I, when I was sending your manager to schedule this, I had typed your name in the subject line. And I'm like, sitting there staring at it. And I'm like, this is how you spell it. It's how you spell it. It's how you spell it. I have your Instagram out, I'm looking at it. I'm like, it's spelled correctly. And my brain, I was like, it just like was not.

I was so nervous to send it. When you stare at a word too long, yeah, it looks like something's wrong with it. Well, it looks wrong from the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. I know I tried to get him take my last. same he wasn't having it. What's your main name? Arceeree. How do you spell that? A.R C-E-R-I. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's like not as hard. It's pretty. And yeah, thanks. I think so.

But, yeah. How is my favorite person your uncle? Lovely. He's been amazing. You guys, I can't tell you how he just knows everybody. We just, the kittles are coming out of the podcast. Or they just launched it. Yeah, yeah. And Kyle and I filmed an episode like last week. And they have like a whole production crew. It's crazy. And the person comes up to me and just shows me a picture of them with Uncle John holding a fish up. I'm like how do you know him? Like everybody knows this man. He just he makes himself known.

You know. Funny. You guys have to come to another game. I know your Lions fans but like you can be honorary. No. We definitely. Honorary Niners fans. We had the best day and I I get always get nervous with Taylor because he like just in social settings. He's like sometimes not the best. You're anxious in social. You guys were great. But he literally had the best time like sitting like sitting like. Like my family doesn't like, they're just crazy.

They were, but they were so fun. Like, it wasn't like, like, sometimes you get overwhelmed. Like, if you were to be. I get that. I'll just shut down. Just get quiet. Yeah, yeah. I get that.

Knowing you were going to go on a party, party bus with like someone's family, Taylor would be like, no. Yeah. But he literally after he was like, I had the best day. I was like, oh, I was so happy. It's true. That makes me happy. Because when he was like sitting next to you and he, we were on the party bus and he was like

talking about he, he like fought that mailman. Like my family, like beat up that guy. And I was like, We don't know. I'm like that. Don't let him in a little bit of the family secret. And then he was like putting, I knew he was going to call his daughter and like FaceTime her and I was so embarrassed.

I was like, I think, did I had to have texted you. Like, by the way. I come from like a strong Italian family. Oh yeah. You gave me fair warning. Yeah, like it's going to be a lot. No, my favorite was when we were on fish picture, 197. And I was asking, I still was asking questions.

I'm like, in what kind of fish is that? Yeah, you did it to yourself. I did. Yeah, the second you asked one question, you knew there was going to be seven more coming. Yeah. He's very proud. Yeah. He's very proud.

You really enjoyed it. I feel like you were like, I saw some crazy fish. And then, I saw some crazy fish. I saw some crazy fish. Thought you were going to a football game now. No. You were going to see fish. And then in the box, like with the kiddles family.

They're great, aren't they? But you guys have to come again. Yeah. Twist my arm. I've grown up always like watching like football and sports and loving it. but since like now having friends in the NFL and becoming close with the Hutchinson's and now like, you know,

we are so close with everyone at the line. Like it just, I have like a different viewpoint of it now. Totally. Because they're human beings. And you want them to be successful. Yeah. And like it now like gets me like really like anxious with games.

Or like when eating got hurt last year. Like both of us were like six years. Like it was like it was the first time I was like, well this is actually like really puts into perspective. effective, you see people get, like, carted off like every game. And, like, such a violence for it. What, what that actually entails for them. I've never, like, had to think about it that way, because I haven't been close with anyone.

Yeah. Once you put a human interaction to it, it changes everything. Well, I was hurting so bad for you guys, like, after the Super Bowl. I appreciate that. But, yeah, it was brutal. Brutal. Brutal. I mean, yes, losing a Super Bowl twice is, like, just, like, gut punching because you get there.

And then we, it was really. not as similar to the Lions game, but like we had lead. Yeah. And we were crushing it. Yeah. And then it just slipped. I mean, that's what happens. Really, it just changes.

The hard part with the Super Bowl, and I feel like a lot of people don't realize this, because if you don't go to the Super Bowl, you don't realize how slow-paced it is because of how many commercial breaks there are. It's hard to, like, get in a momentum, I feel like for the players. Because between, like, every play, there's a huge break for commercial breaks. Yeah. And it's such a long game. that I feel like it's like hard to keep once you have momentum to even keep it.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it was gut-ranging. We hyster-I mean, there's an after-party that for each team and you're like really obligate, you're supposed to go. And you should because you shouldn't like be crying in your hotel room. Right. Celebrate you. You should like be celebrating.

But the party is like hilarious because it starts off like everyone's devastated, right? Like you're in a club and there's like little way in performing. and everyone's like crying. Like, Little Wayne's performing and everyone's like actually sobbing and then everyone gets hammered. Yeah. And then they're having like so much fun.

And it's like the best time ever and then it just goes and then everyone gets too drunk. And then you remember the awful. Yeah, then you get two drinking and you get emotional again. And then everyone just starts sobbing. It's like the ultimate like every emotion you can possibly feel. I have a, yeah, there's like a video of Kyle and I like in a club and him just like hyperventilating.

And then there's a video of. of us like, yeah, dancing, and then like, hypervailing. That has to be the worst hangover, I could imagine. The next day you wake up, you're hungover, and you remember you lost the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, horrible. Actually, another funny story, when he came to Christmas and it was only like two months in dust dating, and he met everybody, Uncle John, of course, like gets him, just hands him a gift.

And I'm like, what did he get this? Like, what do you mean you got him a gift? A giant fish. Like, what did you get him? Yeah. Then we got him a jersey with like 44, but he put our Siri on the back, like our last name. And I'm like, oh, my God. But we have that and we hung it up on our wedding.

That's so good. And I remember being mortified and being like, oh, I'm so sorry. He's crazy. I love you, Uncle John. Was the adjustment, like, you guys dating, was it hard for you to, like, adjust to his, like, travel and stuff? So, no. I would say we really have lived two different lives together. Like, when we first met, I was in college.

and I didn't like go to games really. I would maybe go to like a few games a year at home. I never went to away games. And I was living like very much my own life. I was in college, like had all my college friends, you know, like having a normal college schedule. I was interning. So like I would go to games here or there, like at home.

And then when he signed with the Niners and we moved out to California, that was like it couldn't be any more different because I didn't have my job anymore. I didn't have my friends anymore. I now was like so engulfed in like the NFL life where before it was really like his his job like that was his job and I had my job and we just like but then it became like our lifestyle because then I only had like friends through football which was amazing but it was a huge adjustment. Those like first two years out in California were probably like one of the hardest years for me. Yeah. I can't imagine especially because you strike me as someone that is like very like independent too. And like, just like you have, like you were saying, like, you had like your own life and everything going.

It was hard. Like, I've always like, I've always been a hard worker. Yeah. And when I had to leave my job and, like, go to California and then figure out, like, okay, well, what do what, like, where's my purpose? Like, what do I do here? And then we were going to New York in the off season. So I was like, how can I get a job that is going to let me leave for like four months? Like, that doesn't work.

And this was before COVID. I feel like now it's probably easier because a lot of. where people work remote, but back then really people weren't. Yeah. So I ended up getting a job at SoulCycle. Oh, wow. Like, when we moved out there, I was like, I need a job. Like, I need to get out of the house.

I can't. And I wanted friends actually outside of the football world because people come and go. And then you're just like, you know, if you have, I've made so many best friends, by the way, like bridesmaid sisters and I like love so much. But if you go to another team, they're gone and then you don't have a friend there anymore. So I wanted someone, people would, like, consistency. Yeah. And so for like two years I worked front desk at SoulCycle. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And I just like made so many friends and yeah. And I actually like while I was doing that

started an online clothing boutique that like kept me busy that I loved to was called origin. Oh my. So when was that? What year would that have been? 2017. Okay. I yeah yeah, 2017. And how do you make the jump from, and wasn't like real estate somewhere in there? That's what I was doing in Maryland. Okay. How do you make the jump from what you were doing to, to starting this? She's a woman of many talents. I feel like, okay, I was a very typical college student that I'm like, I've no idea what I want to do with my life type of thing. I've always loved fashion though. Like that was just something I've always loved. And I dabbled like interning and like the buying world. And I was like, oh, like corporate life really isn't for me. And so,

I've always loved that. So when I, but then my family also was like entrepreneurs. Like they've kind of have like done, touched a lot of things. And so my family like flips houses in New York. Okay. They're also in like interior design and they do. Yeah.

Like they've done like pizza areas. I have they done it all to be honest. But so I was like dabbling at first. I graduated college. I was like, oh maybe let me get my real estate license and maybe I could like start flipping homes in Maryland. And then once I got my real estate license like two months later,

Kyle signed with the Niners and he was like come to California with me. And that was like a big moment where I was like, do I stay? Do I go? And I decided to go with him. But I was 23. I was so young. Yeah. And so when I got out there, I was like, well, do I want to do real estate out here?

I just felt like I was like, I don't even know California. Like if a client were to ask me. Yeah. How do you get here? I'd be like, type it into ways. Like I have no way. You know, I was like it wouldn't make sense. So.

Yeah. I really had like, I mean, obviously we're so fortunate that I was able to like have stability that I can kind of find what I want to do. So then when I started working at SoulCycle, that was really truly just for like a, I need to get out of the house type of thing. Yeah. Like, and then while I was doing that is when I started to, I wanted to get back into clothing because it was something I loved. So I was like, I want to open up a boutique, like an online boutique. And I started doing that and I was working at SoulCycle doing just like for, for, you know, for, you know, I was like, for. making friends.

Yeah. Were you doing, like making like sports clothes or what was it? So I, no, I went to, I was literally like on YouTube trying to figure out like, how do I even start?

I don't know anybody who has at that time worked in clothing. So I was like, YouTube being like how to start a boutique. Like I had no idea. Yeah. I found this like trade show called magic in Los Angeles. I mean, uh,

Las Vegas. I like blanked on what that was. Um, and it's actually very, like it's a big show. show a lot of people know about it, like in that world. I just didn't. And I was buying wholesale and I was like shooting it myself, modeling it myself. I set up like a whole area in my house as like all storage. I was packaging it. Like I loved it. Yeah.

But then from there, I felt like I wasn't being able to be creative enough because I've always like loved being creative. And because I was like just buying wholesale and they weren't actually when I was buying it. I was like, oh, this stuff feels so cheap and I hate that. And just I probably I don't even really love that shirt. I wish I could find something like this. It would be hard to find. Yeah. So that's when I started transitioning to designing.

And I was doing all of it at the same time. And that's when I was like, okay, I need to stop something. And I stopped working at SoulCycle. Yeah. They also all closed down by me, which is so sad because I love because I was a dancer. Do you like SoulCycle? No. I don't like cardio.

That's why. I can understand. He hates cardio. Yeah. I love Soul Cycle, though, because you feel like you're dancing. I need to actually just like try it. I've never tried it. I've never done it.

No. Okay, we'll go together. You're gonna love it. You're like, I hate it. She's never done it. I just am not a cardio girlie.

So, like the thought of like doing that on a bike. There's like choreography though. Okay. Yeah. Which I feel like you like. To the beat. Like you don't,

I don't really like cardio either, but you ride to the beat of the music. Okay. Which is just fun. Yeah. And I subconsciously even have to like walk on a treadmill to the beat of music also. Perfect.

There you go. Yeah. Okay, great. Good to know. Good to know. Yeah. That's kind of the whole origin story of like how I started designing. If you're like me or most people, you probably can't name all of your financial accounts or what they're worth.

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From YouTube videos? Wow. That's crazy. I always had a sewing machine and like I wish I remember There's like no story to it I just kind of like always had one I've always been kind of like a figure it out type of person That's just in my blood

And so I always knew how to work a sewing machine We didn't really like I didn't really sew growing up or anything Maybe sewed like once I had like Holmec in seventh grade It wasn't you know what I mean It all stemmed from Halloween Kyle and I wanted to be Justin and Brady Spiers From the VMAs that like denim on denim look Yeah yeah

and I'm just like delusional and I'm like I can make that I was like I can do it I don't know why I thought that I just have confidence in myself but you did and I did wow and then after I made it um I just like loved that feeling of like working with my hands making something and feeling like so proud to say that I made it yeah and from there it's kind of like it's snowballed like I was like oh I'm gonna maybe make some things for Kyle's game I had like a few t-shirts and rotation that I would wear and I just got so sick of it. So I'm like, let me just try to make some stuff. I don't like any of the stuff that was out there for myself. Yeah. And that I made that and I was like, oh, this is fun. Maybe I could try to do this for every week. And then it just became like a thing.

Like I started doing it for every single week. It's crazy. And then that was, I did that for probably like two, three years before I started making stuff for other people. Yeah. Because I was teaching myself, like I wasn't a professional by any means. And like, if you were to give me your measurements, I'd be like, at that time, I'm like, I have no idea.

Yeah. Because I was like trying it on myself and pinning it on myself to make it fit. Yeah. But then I realized there was like a big gap because so many people would be asking me to make them things like, oh, I love that, make me that or this, that. Yeah. And that's when I was like, oh, this could be a business. Yeah.

And here we are. When did you first realize that people were starting to take notice and it could be something other than just you making clothes for yourself? Yeah. It was a slow burn at first. And then I realized, I guess, I always kind of knew, by the way. Like I always believed in it that I feel like it could be something because I, there was only like, there was no differentiation of product out there for girls at least in the sport. Now there is.

I feel like there's a lot of brands doing amazing things. But back in 2017, I feel like it was just like it was T-shirts and V-Nex. And like there was nothing. So I kind of always believed in it. it. But then I'll never forget, I made, sorry, I made the puffer vest, the Jersey puffer vest. And I never forget. Like, when I made it, I texted it to like Kyle's sports agent who was really close at the time, I still am. And I was like, this is a really good idea. Like, I just had a feeling when I made it. I was like, you made it for yourself? I made it for myself. And I was like,

this is a revolutionary? Like, I feel like this is a really good idea. And I was like, should I I'll put this on the internet. Like I feel like I was always torn when I was designing and like making stuff for myself every week. Because I was knocking on everyone's door, you guys. Like I was going on LinkedIn, finding everybody, any company who had licensing, finding who like their marketing managers or like collaboration managers. I was sending them emails, LinkedIn messages to like get meetings with them. And really nobody was interested in me.

Like everyone was just like, we just don't have the space for it right now. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. But I was trying like. like so hard. I was meeting with the NFL. The NFL always knew that I was like really trying to get at it and like get a license. And I realized at that time I was like I can't get a license. Like they're not, A, they're probably, they're not going to give it to me and be like if you ever look at this license agreement of what you have to fill out to even apply. Like I wouldn't

even been able to fill out half of it because I don't have manufacturers or any of that stuff. It's like super complicated. So I was like let me try to collaborate with a brand because that would be like my first step into the field. But no one would. was really willing to collaborate. So when I had that decision now. Yeah, I have a lot of emails. But when I made the puffer vest is when I just was like, gosh, like, do I want to put this out there?

Because like a brand who has licensing rights can easily just go do it. Rip it off. Yeah. And then I was just like, you know what? What's the alternative? Like I just don't ever put it out there. So I was like, screw it. I'm just going to put myself out there.

So I put it out there and I added, I remember in my, captioned I added fanatics and I added Nike and I was like hit me up that's what I wrote and that post is was the first one that really like got a shit ton of momentum yeah yeah so that's when people started hitting you up and like hey can you make me something yeah yeah who was like the first person of notice that you made something for that people were like well well first Debo Samuel wore something of mine. Uh-huh. And he was like really one of the first to support it.

And then Simone Biles. Yes. And then you were right after that. I know. Like you were right in the kickfire. I was going to get to that. Yeah. So I slid in your DMs, right?

You did. Taylor had been showing me. Yeah, I need so. For a while. Yeah. Like he was like, look at all of these things she's doing. And I was like, oh, whoa, that's cool. He was like, I think I'm going to message her.

I was like, do it. Yeah. I was so excited. You have no idea. Like, I was so excited. Mainly because I was asking people constantly for me to design them. So it was like so amazing. I'm like, somebody asked me.

It was so excited. And before that, I had so many like amazing ideas to like do men stuff because I was really only designing for myself. And so once I made something for Debo, I was like, oh, there's so many like great stuff I could do for men. Yeah. So that's why I was like so excited for your piece. Yeah. And then it just so happened like randomly, right? that you had made other Taylor's the same weekend.

It was the same weekend. I DM'd you and I was like, I think it was a really quick turnaround. Yours was a super quick turnaround. Yeah. We can get into the FedEx story. Yeah, but I feel like it was like a week and a half, two weeks? Max.

Max. Max. I killed myself that week. I'll never forget. So I remember being like, Taylor's whole thing was a complete question mark. Like there wasn't like a, I had no idea, no guarantee. Yeah.

But I was like, I'm going to let him know just in case, um, because it will be like back to back. Yeah. And like literally the same weekend. The same weekend. Yeah. And, but I also had absolutely no idea. But I remember just like staying up till five, six o'clock in the morning.

Cause I'm like, if I back to back like this could just be so amazing. And it really was truly the best weekend of my life. And like Taylor, I owe you everything. Like I'm not even kidding. No. from the bottom of my heart. Like it was that we can change my whole life. Like it really did.

It changed everything. And I'm so happy that. We were so happy. I'm so happy that you loved it. But also the whole story of how you got it. Yeah. Just was. Let's try.

Can we try and tell this story? So we weren't home and we were, I think we were in Nashville and we were flying to Detroit or something like that. It was like we were. There was a snowstorm. We weren't home and we were flying. I think we were in Nashville. and we were flying in Detroit for the game

and it was last minute you were working on the jacket. Also, it was like, I'm like, where am I going to find Hutchinson jerseys in San Jose? Right. Like I was panicking, like trying to find those online, I'm sure.

I somehow got an overnight because like you can't really overnight jerseys. It's like the shipping is usually like takes a while. Okay. I don't remember how I even. Yeah, you somehow got that and then we, like the address was up in the air. We didn't know where we're going to send it.

Oh yeah, yeah, your hotel. We were like, okay, you'll send it to our hotel in Detroit. And then there was a snowstorm that hit, but we had just missed it because we'd flown in the day before. But then that delayed the package. Got the package stuck. Yeah, so I remember being so upset because guys, I killed myself to get both. Because it wasn't just yours, it was Taylor's and Brittany.

So I was doing three jackets in one week. And that is just like so much work. I have videos in me of like 4 o'clock in the morning. Like I was just like really wanting to get it done. And so that. I'm like, oh my gosh, like I got the timeline. Like I did it in time. I finished it.

And now this is going to be the reason why it doesn't get to him. And it's playoff football. Like they could have lost. And, you know, and then there was nothing there anymore. So like, so anyway, so it gets stuck. And I remember being like, I will not let this be the reason why I will fly to Detroit, open up every single head ex office to get him this jacket. This time period is when I learned how.

much of a hustler you are and that no force she'll ever stop you. And I was just like telling her the whole time. I'm like, I've never seen anybody like this. No, I think Taylor looked at me. He's like, you're going to be getting a call from the like CEO of FedEx. And I was like, sorry, what? So somehow you got FedEx involved. Yeah. Shout out FedEx. It was actually like the whole thing was a legit Super Bowl commercial. Was it not? Like it was insane. I still think FedEx if you please watch We need to recreate. I think this would have been literally FedEx needs to do a Super Bowl commercial. It was insane.

Yeah. I feel like it was a drop ball. That was like such a crazy commercial. And the ending could not have been more perfect. Yeah. Because, wait. Okay.

Sorry. We'll get there. We'll get there. Okay. So we can't find the package. I'm like calling everybody. And you put on your story. You're like,

does anyone have a contact at FedEx? Well, first being from a Long Island, it's just like, you know, a guy who knows a guy mentality. Like that's just like the type of like Long Islanders there. So like I had a friend who knew a friend who knew a friend, somebody high up at FedEx. And so they gave me their number And they were like all over it

But it's it you guys It's a ginormous company Like yeah there's so many people So then I put on my story out Because that wasn't working And I remember being on the phone with him for a while And I was like fuck this isn't happening Yeah

And I put on my story I was like a last shot Like I might as well just see Who out there can help me And I just really just anybody Know anyone at FedEx I made something for somebody Because I didn't want to say like what

And I was like They're supposed to wear it tomorrow and it stuck and I worked so hard on this. Like, please somebody help me. And actually it was one of my friends. It wasn't, like, it was one of my friends that I just wasn't like talking to her about it. She's like, hey, I actually know the owner of FedEx's son. And I'm like, what?

Give me his number immediately. Yeah. Like, oh my gosh, thank you. Yeah. So they connected me with somebody with, I think, their son. I was on the phone with him. And it wasn't even like, I don't even think I told you. guys this whole sort of. It was even crazier than that. So then we found it. They opened up a facility.

It was like the facility was closed because of the FedEx, like because of the storm. Yeah. They opened it up for us. And they found the package. Hunted down the package of like, I'm sure millions of packages, right? Hunted it down, puts it on a truck. That truck breaks down. Yes. You remember that? It broke down about an hour, hour and a half outside of Detroit. Yes. And I'm like, after you got it. Within that through everything. Yeah, I was like, who is testing me? I will succeed.

Yes. And then I, that was when I was like, I'll get on a plane. Like, and then so I was like, give me, drop a pin. Like, give me the driver's pin, drop the pin. I will get an Uber carrier to go to the pin. And it was just like insane. They had somebody come and fix the truck eventually. And then the truck ends up coming.

And by this time, like, they're already in the stadium. The game has almost started, but you guys were in the stadium. Yeah. Because I was like, the whole day, I was like, it's happening. She's figuring it out. She's going to, she's figuring it out. But then it was time to go to the stadium. And the jacket still wasn't there.

And then the truck broke down. And I was like, okay. It's not going to show up. This is just me back and forth the house. Yeah. Like, just going crazy. And luckily, Kyle was on bye week that. Oh.

And he, like, experienced that whole thing. He could be a part of that. Wow. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Long story short, the truck starts working. They're on their way. The guy calls me and I was like, they're like, okay, they're going to go to the hotel.

And I was like, I kind of like gave up at that point. I was like, they're already out the game. Like, there's nothing we could do. I was like, I'm just going to put this out there. Like, I don't know if this is even possible. But if they have an extra ticket, can they send a ticket to maybe the delivery guy? And then the delivery guy can hand deliver at the person. package to them.

I never in a million years thought that was even going to work. And I actually don't even remember. Did you give a ticket? How did they get in the stadium? So the clients, like marketing girls are literally the best. And they knew we filled them in with the whole situation. They knew what was going on. We're standing on the sideline pregame.

But games about ready to start in 10 minutes. 10 minutes. I have the number of the driver. I give it to one of them. I'm like, hey, he's going to go out. outside can like one of you get it can one of you got there and meet him and so they give one of like their like staff people the number and then he disappears and we're just like you know standing there like waiting all of a sudden what if you get in you're like this is ugly that would have been

unfortunate because when I was opening up the package on the sideline it was such a spectacle oh my god cut to the guy comes back we literally are handed this FedEx box on the field five minutes before game time. Taylor like rips it up. And mind you, it's taped very well. Taylor is ripping this thing open. I think I have a video bit of you opening it up. And you pull it out and you put it on and it was literally like, yeah. The stars aligned. Like that's what I imagine winning the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. It was totally. It was literally that moment. Everybody on the sideline and in the stands behind us were invested in this. Yeah, yeah. Everyone is. Package gets hand delivered to me on the sideline. I remember getting a voice. Now I remember.

like, are you in the CIA? Taylor was like, how did she get, how did this happen? It was just the most absurd, like, I feel like that's why I have like, I'm like delusionally like optimistic because of like scenarios like that just happened. And I'm like, it was the most insane thing. But the jacket was, like moral of the story is you have to ask for help like all like all the time. You take away one thing from this episode, Lemon Drops, ask for help.

Ask for help. You can't do everything on your own. Yeah. You can't. And like one person, and I truly try to help people too because I've gotten so much help to be able to succeed in so many things. So it's like, you have to ask for help. You have to give help. And it was, you guys, that was like the best.

I've never. I think I immediately the second you got it, went to sleep. I was like, and crash. I'm sure. We were having the best time. And you guys won. And we did win. And we did win.

Lucky jacket. I got it right here, by the way. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. There she is. And we had Aiden sign it.

And after the game, I had Aden sign it. Honestly, that thing is beautiful. I have to make, I have to bring that to market. Yeah, no, I, I love. Yeah, like, what have you hated it? That would have been really unfortunate. I said you pictures, though. Yeah, no, I saw what it looked like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew it would be cool. No, it's so good. We will, like, fight over it to this day. We bring it to almost every game we go to. Lucky Jacket. And it's just like, it's always like our, like, we'll, get like a new shirt and we're like that's always just like it hasn't lost yet no I don't think it

I don't think I didn't bring it to the commander's name did I no I don't think I don't think well there you go oh there you go and that's why I have to get you an aiden puffer vest I think it got delivered we did aiden puffer vest really mm-hmm oh wow yeah they're downstairs yeah they got delivered right as we sat up here yeah as you were looking for the jacket oh my oh I'm so excited um no but I was gonna say we were having the best time like seeing all of the news articles of like, dude. It was crazy.

Obviously, you know, it was insane. Taylor, my Taylor was involved in some of them, but obviously like Taylor wearing Travis's puffer.

And like, we just like had, we're having the best, we laid in our hotel, we always like stay another day. Yeah. We were just laying in our hotel room. We were watching your followers go up.

We were just like watching all of the interactions and all the posts, all of the articles. Like we were just like, it was wild. We were cheerleading for you. And I just could not be more happy for you

that whole day. I felt like I was celebrating with you. Oh, thank you. Just because I just saw how hard you work. Yeah. Like, and then seeing Kyle's support of you, which was just the freaking cuteest thing ever. It's, uh, I could not have been more happy for you that day. Thank you guys.

Well, you're so part of that story. Like, truly, it was just like the perfect, perfect storm. But it was just so crazy. But it was, that was one of the weekends that, like, I'll never forget my entire life. Yeah, I'm sure. It was the best. And then I remember that weekend, I was like checking in with you because you, I think then you were like, what's next?

How can I turn this into something? And then cut to. Yeah. Have to off season. Cut to off season. So the NFL always knew, like I said, that I was really trying to do something. And they honestly were always supportive and like trying to help me find collaborators. But then, of course, like I think once that big moment happened and there was.

was such an amazing response from people being like, I want that. Yeah. They were like, okay, we can gift her licensing. But at that time, they gave me licensing for only a few months because they wanted me to just like have some time to figure out what I want to do. Like they didn't want. And it was honestly so gracious because I didn't want to like sign a long contract.

I was so overwhelmed. Not only was like so much happening at that time. My husband was playing. Yeah. And like I want to be a good wife and support him in that. And this is like, and they went to the Super Bowl. that year. So it was like, I need to like honor that and make sure he feel supported. But so at that time, I was like, okay, I'm not going to be able to make anything or sell anything

for the Super Bowl. It's like a week turnaround. So I was like, let me auction something off for breast cancer awareness. And so I made a puffer vest. I made a few actually. Like I made 10 of them actually. The Super Bowl ones. The Super Bowl ones. And I just like place them throughout. And then I was like, let me auction one off and I'll donate it to charity. And my goal. was $5,000. I was like, it would be so insane if somebody buys this for $5,000. And it went for $75,000. $75 grand.

Is that not insane? Wow. Truly nuts. On the none of breast cancer. Yeah. I was talking about your mom for a minute. For our Lama Job Sales and our listeners. I love that you called them that, by the way.

You have such a love for advocacy for breast cancer because you lost your mom to breast cancer. When you were 18. When I was 18. Okay. How long did she battle cancer for? Truly my whole life. It was something that she was in and out of remission forever. There were like gaps or like years that she was really healthy and then years that she was like back on her chemo. So it was never for me something that it was my norm.

Yeah. Like mom was sick. That was just like my norm always or you know mom has a wig or like that was to me something that I grew up with. Yeah. So I think I think what I struggle. with the most now is that like, I never really realized how serious it was when she was like actually really bad

because I just like, oh, she bounces back. That's what she does. Like she gets sick, she bounces back. So I like, I think that's, I think that's hard for any kid too because you don't really understand the severity of something when you're that age. Yeah.

Then you have so much happening with like, I was, you know, applying to colleges and just like, very teenager engulfed, like very selfish engulfed in my own life, you know? But yeah, that was like she's really, it was in and out and vermission and there and treatment really my whole life, to be honest. Was it always breast cancer or did it move? It was always breast cancer until the end. And then that's when like it spread everywhere.

But yeah, my mom was like the most like smileiest, happy, warm energy. Like anybody who she ever met, I swear it just says like she was an angel because she really was. and she never let anybody feel her pain. And it was almost like a blessing and a curse because we never knew how much she really was like going through. She never wanted us, her kids, to ever worry about her or feel sad for her. Like she, if I needed, I don't know,

if I needed to go somewhere and I couldn't drive because I didn't have a license, she would like drive me somewhere and then like go throw up in the bathroom and not tell me. Like she would never want anyone to know. It was like a blessing and a curse though. Yeah. But she was just so strong and like such a light. Yeah. And I really try. I mean, I try to carry that as much as I can. I like, of course, losing a mom is so hard.

Especially at that age because a parent's like so important when you're really young. Yeah. But I feel like a parent's like maybe even just is more important when you're like in your early, when you're in your late teens. Like you're, yeah, not even an adult. Like I was like I was like, it just turned 18. So I was really like 17. it's like so important to have that figure there to like really guide you because you're lost you know yeah um yeah she was the best yeah do you feel like because like do you think you had like

or did you have a little bit of like warning that it was maybe no that's something that I have resentment towards a little bit um and like I try to remind I've been in therapy for it and like try to remind myself that there was so much happening at that time and like there's people are going through so much my dad was going through so much like potentially at that time like losing his partner and like I think because we were older I was a youngest by the way like my siblings are five years older than me so I feel like it was very much like they were adults but they never told us that like the doctor gave her two weeks which I have like resentment towards a little bit but um I just try to remind myself that I wouldn't have

change anything. Do you know what I mean? And like we had such an amazing, we had an amazing relationship. We were a mother-daughter, like, of course, you know, you fight, but we had her an amazing relationship and I love her and I carry it. I'll always, like, carry her memory. Yeah. And I have to let go of that guilt or else I'll live with it forever. There's nothing because I was actually, this is like a sad story, but I was actually gone the weekend. My mom passed really because they like let me, it was strange. They like let me go away. I don't know. It was strange.

But I think everyone was just, there was so much happening and everyone was really like in their head. And it was chaos. But also a little bit of like delusion because she always bounced back. And we just always thought she'd bounce back. Yeah. You know. We talk about grief a lot on the podcast because I feel like that's just like such a universal thing. Totally.

How do you feel like your grief was and has like kind of changed? It changes a lot all the time. I think. I'll go through periods of feeling okay. I feel like I was kind of, I hate to use the word blessed because I'm not blessed in any way of that. But like I was at an age where there was so much change

that I, so she passed in March my senior year of high school. And then I had to like, I was applying to colleges. And then when I went to college right after, like it forced me to get out of my environment, which I think looking back at was like the best thing. ever. Like, if I would have stayed home for college, I feel like I'd be a different person because, like, being in the house was sad, you know, like, passing her room was sad. Like, it was just a house full of sadness after. And I really do feel like a mother, my mother, like, brought

warmth into the house. Like, and when she left, it was just felt cold, you know what I mean? But so I had a lot of distractions with college and being away. And, like, that helped me a lot. and I think as I got older is when I finally dealt with my grief because I never dealt with it. I distracted myself with it if that makes sense. Like just with school

and being in a new environment. And I think with grief, what's hard is that it's a constant reminder. But I think it's also just a constant reminder of your love, which is what I try to channel it. Like you,

I'm blessed that I had a mother that I had because not everyone gets an amazing mom. Like I really had the most loving mother. and I hope to be that kind of mom that she was. So I just try to like remind myself that it was like grief is really just an I miss you and I love you. And that's what I try to remind myself about. But what's so like funny about grief is it will hit you literally so randomly. For me it like always hits me when I'm driving for some reason.

Like I always get like sad when I drive. I don't know why. Like music kind of triggers me sometimes. Not in a bad way just in general. Like it provokes emotion. Yeah. And then big life events are always like kind of sad. Yeah.

And that's hard. Like your wedding day that's supposed to be like the happiest day. There's always like that hint of sadness or like. Yeah. The day I launched off season. Yeah. I remember just being like I hysterical cry that day because it's just like wish. You know, it's like your biggest moments are always kind of like a little bit of your saddest.

Yeah. Which you're like it's kind of depressing to say like that. But it's just true. Totally. You wish they were there. But it's life. Everybody, unfortunately. we'll have to deal with grief at some point in their life.

Like, we're human. And I've accepted it. I really have. I've accepted it. I think it's been a long time now. And time does heal. Your heart will never make you forget. And I still have moments that I'm very sad.

And I still get, like, choked up. Like, I'm actually doing a really good job talking about it right now. But, yeah, it was really, it really did change me, though. I think dealing with that at such a young age, but also like being able to still know who she was like it wasn't a kid do you know what you mean yeah I feel like it made me I'm not easy I'm not I'm not that sensitive like it takes a lot to get me upset yeah and I feel like in a good way actually like I am emotional but like it takes me a lot to get upset because I just I'm always like we're healthy like as we're healthy even with stuff

with like off season if something goes really wrong right and I'm like guys it's close. Like we're healthy. Yeah. You know, like, of course, it's, you know, I just think that's, your health is your wealth. And so it puts it into perspective so much for me. So I feel like it's really, it's really taught me to just really look at things from a bigger picture. Yeah.

Yeah. And also like the one, my loved ones, like to really grasp on to them and have a lot of, like, dedicated time with the people that I love. Yeah. Because at that time, like my biggest guilt, I would say is that like just being a teenager and not wanting to hang out with your parents. You know what you mean? I'm like, I wanted to be with my friends.

Yeah. And so that, some, that lingers in me. And so now I, like, always want to dedicate time to my dad and to my, like, I'm so fortunate to serve my grandpa here at 92.

Wow. And so, like, I just want to always dedicate time, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That's special.

I love that. Also, I'm sure that you know this, but the way that you describe your mom and, like, the warmth and light that she brought, like, do that same thing.

That's so sweet. Thank you. When you were describing her, I was like, so you're describing yourself right now. Thank you. So true. Thank you. That's really sweet.

I think my one thing I struggle with is like self-reflection. I think a lot of people probably do. Because you never know how other people perceive you, you know? Yeah. But yeah, that's really sweet. Thank you. Of course. Obviously we've been talking about off season this whole time.

Yeah. There's some new, exciting, like launches, Collapse stuff. Can you? Yeah. What's like the latest, what's the latest drops? We just dropped what's to come.

Okay. We just dropped puffers yesterday. Okay. And we expanded to 13 teams. You were first at five? We were first at five. Yep. And lines are part of it.

I'm a big fan. And we were first at five. And it's so funny because people get really upset when we don't have their team. And I'm like, it has nothing to do with me not liking the team. Like people are like, she hates us. Yeah. No. It's just a lot of inventory.

to carry all those teams. But so, yeah, we launched 13 teams yesterday of like puffer vest and puffer jackets. And then we have a player, like one or two, like every team kind of varies for each team. Okay. A puffer vest. And I'm so excited because it's like that's how the whole thing really started. So to be able to like expand that and to offer it to more teams. I mean the goal is, of course, to get to all 32 teams.

Yeah. But we have to like walk before we run. Yeah, right? You got to start somewhere. We had a lot, like, there's been a lot of boom, boom, boom, boom. Things got, like, delayed for a while. So now it's like, there's a lot back to back. I'm sure it's probably like overwhelming for people to consume.

Like, wait, what? Yeah. But we just launched WMBA. Oh, yes. Which was so fun. That's cool. Puffers? No, just like, we call it ready to wear.

So it's like tops and teas and shorts and pants. Maybe puffers one day. But it's like an arena sport. Yeah. So I don't know if you really well. Um, actually that's not true. I guess we'll take, I take that back.

We, we probably will. Um, but yeah, it was so fun to collaborate with them. We've gone to a lot of Valkyries games, which is the new Bay Area, um,

WMBA team. Okay. And it's, this is their first year, like, ever having a team in the Bay. And they're actually in the playoffs right now, which is like really cool and like,

history. But the games are electric, you guys have been, we've been, they're electric. We've been told. What'd you say? We've been dying ago.

You have to. They're so much fun, I swear. It's like, I mean, every, the whole thing, it's like a dance party. The players, like, it's just so fun to hear how, like, the roars of the crowd for them to get the recognition that they deserve. Yeah. And it's just, it's amazing. It's, like, so fun. I know you're not going to, like, tell me anything, but, like, is the, could you, like, tease or do you know?

Yeah. Like, what's, like, a dream thing for you to do with off season? With off season? Yeah. Or a T's, but if... My dream for off-season would be to... I mean, listen, there's so many leagues out there, like, outside of, like, the main leagues, and, like, there's so many sports in the world.

So, I mean, like, I would love to be, like, the go-to spot for sports fashion. Yeah. For anything you can think of. And then I would also love to have, like, an off-season line that isn't sports, like, not license. Yeah. Like, just, just actually off-season. Yes. So I would say that's, like, my old...

ultimate dream with it. But like, I mean, I'm, we, I just went to a game. Well, because when we launched us,

the 49ers were out of the playoffs. So I hadn't been to any stadium. And then I was so excited week one because I was like, I just hope I bump into somebody wearing it. Yeah. And I did. And it was just the ultimate. Like that was always the dream from the beginning.

But I still do the one-offs. Have you ever one, you guys? I'm next. I'm next. I'm next. You are next. You are next.

I'm ready. Luckily, we like basically wear the same size. and a lot of stuff. Yeah, we share a lot of things. Yeah, see, perfect. So I'm next to you can. Yeah, you already admitted that you steal this jacket from me all the time.

I need a new jacket. Perfect. We'll have to get you the, um, we just dropped a, like, Cammy shrug. And it's so cute. I feel like I hope that it's here for you. I can't wait. It's like Christmas morning down soon. It is.

It is Christmas morning. Um, last question I just want to know. Yeah. I just feel like we've, I mean, we obviously knew a lot about, you because we're friends with you, but just like getting to hear again how hard of a worker you are and just how you live your life and what you've been through. I want to know what you're most proud of yourself for. Oh, I love that question. I would say like who I chose as a partner. I feel like that is the biggest decision in life. I mean, you guys know. You guys are so,

by the way, like so compatible. Seriously. You both have like incredibly calming. energy to both of you. No, truly. You guys are like really grounding. You really are. But you're so right. It's the most important decision. It's the most important decision like outside of anything.

Like Kyle has grounded me. He's very grounding. You guys haven't really spent too much time with him just yet. No. You love him. Literally only in the bus on the way home from that game. I wanted after the Chief's game. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. And Taylor was like, I don't want to talk to him. Like they just like, I don't want to like. Oh yeah. I felt so bad because they were. I just lost and I didn't know how he takes those. Yeah, he's actually normally, like he's a happy person. Yeah, but he seems like the best.

Yeah, we'll have to do dinner. Yeah. But yeah, I would say I'm most proud of that because just like to be proud of your partner is everything. And I feel like I'm just like I'm so proud of him. I love supporting him. He loves supporting me. And like you'll, to pick somebody that you can grow, I'm a different person now than I was at 20 when we met. Yeah.

And we've been able to grow together. And I just think your family. has everything so I'm most proud of that. No one's ever said that answer before and I'm obsessed with that answer. I know for sure for sure. Well we love you. Thanks for you guys. This is so fun. I can't wait to go off my boxes downstairs. I know. Yeah literally let's get downstairs. And maybe we can just like have a Super Bowl that's like maybe they can just make an exception where it's like the Niners. Two out of C teams. Yeah. The Niners and

the Lions can play together. I'd love to run that back with a different outcome. Sorry. No. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.