The Steve Dangle Podcast - 2 Nations Facing Off | February 18, 2025

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:49 and the big news today is alex steves is not on the ice at marley's practice called up to the leafs he is the ahl leader in goals with 29 in 40 games wow this is legitimately like kind of cool it's i mean he did play for the leafs earlier this year and did nothing okay all right all right he did he did nothing was he put in the right spot oh oh that's oh okay sorry we got to bring up alex steve's and make sure that we make it good for alex steve no earn his spot is that how that works is it a little stinky here because adam's trying to poo-poo on alex steve he is i'm just saying man uh i would love for him to be successful no and bobby mcmahon was a great fourth liner you're right but we saw he was awesome as a fourth liner but we saw it
Starting point is 00:03:41 didn't we? Oh yeah, we did. We did. Remember when he was on the fourth line and did friggin' nothing forever?
Starting point is 00:03:47 And then they put him in a slight position to succeed and now he's Bobbert McFriggin' Mobbert. Remember that? I hope this is
Starting point is 00:03:56 Bobbert McMobbert 2.0. All right, genius Steve and genius Jesse. I know. Big brain. How can we roll out the red carpet for Alex Steeves?
Starting point is 00:04:03 The important thing about Alex Steeves is that he's 25 years old. It's not like this is a 32 year old man putting up crazy AHL numbers or even like 30 yeah this is somebody who can still be reaching their peak of NHL powers and he displayed that he's a fantastic goal scorer at the AHL level now put him in a position with the Toronto Maple Leafs where all he has to do is focus on scoring goals and he might do that at the NHL level too and then the Leafs magically
Starting point is 00:04:33 found a great goal scorer has scored a single goal at the nhl level in 11 games wow cool how many did how many games did it take bobby mcmahon to score his first nhl goal you might know that i don't know that it was a lot it was he scored one against detroit that should have counted and didn't so is he playing center or is he playing wing because the leafs need a center minton i don't think is the answer right now for the playoffs they should try him at center okay with i was i was gonna say like you can take robertson off the third line and throw steves in there but you could have both that'd be crazy there is only one puck i don't know you could have them there with mcmahon oh my god a third line with like purpose mcmahon steves and domey or
Starting point is 00:05:16 something like that is that oh there you go do you want an answer two goal scorers and a playmaker it took bobby mcmahon until his 17th nhl game horrible you know what they should send him to Madagascar. Right, Adam? They should send him to the SPHL. You've only got six games left to match Bobbert McMobbert. Isn't that what you call him? Bobbert McMobbert.
Starting point is 00:05:38 The McManimal. I like that one. I like that one. Three years younger than Bobby McMahon. I like Steve's. Yep. But nope. Garbage. He's a garbage player. We learned nothing from that experience. Adam thinks he's garbage.
Starting point is 00:05:54 No, Adam is not the only person saying that. Adam and company. Adam and co. I mean, Adam and co. There's always a gaggle of idiots, isn't there? Right, Jesse? An artisanal meat shop. Adam and co.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Adam and co. Ugh. Ugh. I don't want an artisanal meat shop. I don't want to smell like that all the time. I don't. Something. I don't want to smell like that.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Hey. Something about the term artisanal meat. Charlie McAvoy is out for Thursday's game against Canada, and it's just been announced that Quinn Hughes is in. Quinn Hughes was announced? Yes. Renaud Lavoie just tweeted it out. That's brand new news.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It is what time? It's Mike Sullivan said a minute ago that Quinn Hughes is coming. Old news to everybody listening, but that's okay. Wow. So the stakes just got raised, baby. The Kachuks are going to be ready for Thursday. Matthews is going to be ready for Thursday. I confirmed that with CJ this morning.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He said it's a minor injury. Leafs Nation, stop freaking out. It's fine. He didn't need to play, so he didn't. and that's why he's going to play Thursday and try to beat Canada. So we're done with Alex Steves, by the way. Oh, yeah. We're moving on.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I'm pretty sure we just did that as a bit. I don't know. We could have done 20 minutes on it. Oh, no. It feels unfair that they can add Quinn Hughes. That's all I'm going to say. No. Well, it feels unfair that Canada scratched Thomas Harley
Starting point is 00:07:10 after having an insane debut. Well, okay. I'm okay with teams being able to bring guys in. I'm totally cool with it. I think it's insane that they would be like, no, we must put Sandheim in there. Well, here's the difference. the difference is canada uh their emergency replacement was literally an emergency
Starting point is 00:07:29 replacement yeah the americans emergency replacement is a guy who should have been there the whole time the guy on the roster but he was injured he was injured he was injured um listen as a canadian that's not awesome but it's awesome for the tournament in this oh it's awesome for the tournament but also in the spirit of fairness i think that's how it should be i agree and uh when it comes to thomas harley he did have a really good game against the americans and a lot of canadians wanted to see him in the game against finland under the rules even though he was granted permission to play in that game against finland i don't think he should be eligible he's there on an emergency basis well uh and the emergency the united states
Starting point is 00:08:15 has seven or six defensemen ready to go and they're still bringing quinn hughes in he's on the roster now that's the rule oh that yeah they they kind of that kind of they manipulated the rules mid-turn yeah because it's a dumb rule if somebody gets injured you should be able to replace them why wouldn't you do that this that's stupid is of course such a gary betman ass tournament yeah well he leaves in just enough gray he always always in every situation leaves in gray so that he can manipulate it just a little i just don't understand no no adam the point isn't that i disagree or agree with the decision uh it's just crazy that they've left it like this where it's hey mid-tournament we can make kind of the decisions they want i think that in the end they
Starting point is 00:09:02 made the right decision i mean yeah i think the roster should have been like 25 guys that you have on rotation that can come in whenever you want because that it's truly best on best have the best people available but the idea that they just like you know what he's an emergency replacement but midway through the tournament now he's actually on the roster it's goofy nonsense that the nhl always does listen i hate i hate to defend them on this but let me let me put it to you this way obviously this was always going to be the case when they said nope those are the rosters and no one else can come i was like bullshit if people get injured absolutely and by the way oh no we don't want more stars in our tournament no totally like f off right but what it
Starting point is 00:09:42 with the decision what it does what it does guys is it creates an opportunity like what i just gave you which is quinn hughes is flying in you guys that's new news whoa that's crazy emergency base like they're it what it does is it raises the stakes this was always going to be the way this played out i agree with you that the rule should have just been like i don't know have more guys there yes but i think usa played shorthanded in their first game in america yesterday yeah i know it meant nothing to them but you didn't know that when the tournament began like that's stupid i don't think that game meant nothing we could talk about that they well they sure didn't play the standings to the standings it meant nothing but the the the point is i think the nhl is just like
Starting point is 00:10:20 we're gonna try to create some drama here like they're manufacturing drama i'm fine with it yeah but that should have been the rules to start the rules to start should have been like you know what the rosters are flexible switch about whatever you want like bring bring logan thompson like hell yeah if you really if you really want to cut montembo or something do it like if you're trying to manufacture drama go all the way nhl like allow them to do what the fuck they want i'll i'll even i'll do you one better have it be like the video games a few years ago where at intermission you're allowed to just bring in a new player yeah have have a royal rumble countdown three two one nhl you think you know me oh shit it's logan johnson oh shit
Starting point is 00:11:03 i don't know why he comes out to edges music shouldn't it be shouldn't it be uh john cena's like where you don't see no because edge is canadian yeah sorry adam sorry cope oh sorry adam cope yeah just adopt nhl three's rules where you bring yeah or have a money puck where it's worth two or minus one pucks like that's awesome listen go all out everyone has played in a game of money pucks where you're like the person on the other end of this game would kill me if they could you're losing like eight three but your three were all three pucks and minus three pucks and if they could get up if they could get their hands around my throat i'd be dead but hold this hell if the nhl is smart they do the whole thing for the drama and it's just
Starting point is 00:11:55 the rosters or whatever and you make the best players come exactly like but they refuse to do that don't don't clip that jesse you know i left it alone what did i say you know what jesse doesn't matter hey listen we've had two huge pieces of breaking news to kick off the show alex steve's ahl we didn't spend enough time on it okay we didn't hey listen we got another show to do tomorrow and there's no hockey game between now and then oh okay we'll do an alex steve's breakdown we can do a full alex steve's breakdown you should do a video on your channel minute video that's 60 000 views yeah steve you need to no lie i don't think it is i do but i can try i think you should do a video uh no you're not gonna do a video on that for someone getting called up
Starting point is 00:12:36 yes adam i don't do videos for that the ahl leader in goals you've been waiting for this clip it we talked about it on the show clip it that's not that's not the same thing oh yeah adam what are your plans by the way yo if you're watching this show do you not want that you freaking want that i want that this guy's like no i'm too good for that i'm steve dangle oh yeah adam what are your plans for thursday what damn it i have to do a stream until thursday i have to do a stream and then i gotta do a video you're working me like a dog i'm sorry is that your job oh i i'm sorry is that are you producer chrising me you mother oh oh damn it's so bad i gonna do my job it's really hard yeah everyone listening right now teachers nurses plumbers yeah
Starting point is 00:13:23 you guys get electricians i'm sure you go really bad tradesmen you guys have no idea steve is complaining has to watch the hockey game on thursday yeah and yell while i do it yeah you would you would be doing regardless yeah yeah you just yell with an audience yeah but i gotta do it in front of people so i gotta have decorum um okay so i told you we had two great pieces of news to start the show i'm gonna up the ante you guys ready so we've had steve's called up we've had quinn hughes flying into boston to join team usa all right third piece of news oh no it's big like did all these things happen in the last 10 minutes yes yes they did oh my god uh it's a good thing you were held up by snow today i was held up because we wouldn't have been able to launch
Starting point is 00:14:04 the show this way okay the vancouver canucks have signed drew o'connor do a two-year extension oh i okay what i'm sorry it's 2.5 million aav i think that works oh that's a good little uh raise for him yeah he was making 800 900 grand uh it goes up to two and a half yeah yeah way to go drew and that's you know what those are the kinds of deals i know it's it's drew o'connor's i don't imagine he's among the top selling jerseys in the league he might be but when this with the salary cap jumping over a hundred million dollars very soon here those kinds of deals really useful really useful a good player in your bottom six who you traded for you can retain and uh he takes up two percent of your cap great you want him or david camp can't have both which which do
Starting point is 00:14:58 you want i don't know i don't know either i haven't seen enough of o'connor okay all right um good player so my next question to you after this weekend gentlemen i'm gonna i want to i'm gonna do this okay i'm gonna i'm just gonna put this out there uh as a question but after that i want to talk about the ratings because the ratings have been crazy i want to talk about the games after the ratings we talk about and then we're going to talk about players who are a little bit under the spotlight for good and for not okay but to start do we think alex petrangelo regrets not being here because i am going to just put you i'm going to tell you i think absolutely i think absolutely and you can talk to me he'll never admit it well he'll you give him truth serum
Starting point is 00:15:43 he'll be like no vegas is my priority are you kidding me i know are you kidding me thursday night you want to you don't want to be there i think you want to be there i know he pulled out and then that night he played 26 minutes and that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way we don't know what's wrong with them no no we don't no we don't we have no idea you know what i mean like you can't tell me there aren't a bunch of players who i mean the narrative is what you want it to be i think certain players are going to come into this tournament and you know oh man they wouldn't be on the streak right now without that tournament yep they're so hot they're hot as a pistol other guys are going to come out banged up man they're going to come out like brady kachuk has just
Starting point is 00:16:25 floored it floored it for three games and he had to pull out of last night matthew kachuk probably it has a groin floored it groin issue though floored it uh everyone on the united states has floored it there have been a few passengers throughout the tournament i don't know if any of them wear an american jersey no i don't think there's a single player on team usa that anyone's upset about i know jeremy swayman's riding the shit out of that bike like like i don't think they have a single passenger right they should have bikes on the bench for the coaches um you know some guys are going to come out hotter for this tournament other guys their season will not be the same and it's difficult to judge alex petrangelo i'm not without him no no yeah but
Starting point is 00:17:15 a lot of people are i'm asking how you think he feels i think he misses this he definitely wants to be there but he can't else he would because you watch these games you watch what happened on saturday he has to give 110 if he's out there he can't half-ass it and he knows that if i was there i wouldn't be able to give all of that i could or i'd probably risk injury so he can't be there but he probably definitely probably wishes he would you know but he can't because he's physically not capable it's a bit of a shame he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt as someone who well he should get the one a gold medal for his country like just no one remembers or cares he would have been one of three players to play on the 26th world cup team for canada and then
Starting point is 00:17:57 also play on this team that's like he's 35 years old and has an ailment and he's like i can't go out there alex petrangelo is 35 i believe so i think last time i checked guys i covered in junior 35 let me let me triple check uh his age uh you're right 35 years old 1990 january 18th a month ago he had his 35th birthday and he's like i i know that hockey is a hard sport to play and the intensity of these games will be ramped up to a million and if i'm there i have to be at that level and he said i can't do that i have to just play out the rest of this regular season and be healthy for that so i like he's probably really sad but you can't blame him for making that decision yeah guys know their bodies athletes know their bodies that's a tough one well i will say
Starting point is 00:18:43 this i regret him not being there because i miss him how do you think he's really good how do you think the vegas golden knights feel because they're like all right we have theodore and petrangelo going we're gonna hold petrangelo out just to be safe theodore done i know yeah have we do we know how long he's gonna be out i haven't heard anything week to week which is broken wrist we don't know what do we think okay i've not um no idea i thought he jammed his wrist but like you know though vegas will be fine i mean it's vegas they'll be fine oh no you know what they have to do we get to put ir oh i'm just gonna say i'm just gonna say oh no maybe he shouldn't come back until the first game of the playoffs no oh mark stone is gonna throw out his shoulder lifting
Starting point is 00:19:27 the the whatever makeshift trophy they have for this tournament uh that's what uh that's what Friedman said on 32 Thoughts that it looks like it might be close to playoffs. Technically, it's week to week, I think is his quote. But it looks like it might be close to playoffs. So they might just hold now. Hey, listen, guys. It's almost exactly two months. Yeah, this time, two months from now, we'll be in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I'm pumped, man. But let's talk about the ratings for a second here. According to John Shannon, friend of the show, Wednesday on Sportsnet, the Canada-Sweden game, got 2.1 million canadians watching and another 1 million americans watched wow on thursday finland united states 1.1 million people watched on sportsnet on espn another 1.55 million watched in the united states okay jeez canada usa saturday night 4.4 million people both sides of the border so like so that's that's the total audience yeah that is an enormous number uh sorry
Starting point is 00:20:35 i'm wrong on that actually espn's telecast of last night's game according to sportico a staggering 4.4 million viewers that's so that's just the sweden game no sorry the the canada usa game okay canada usa game not the sweden you're all over the place adam wild well i'm reading from their article the next right okay i got uh uh game seven of oilers panthers averaged 7.66 million viewers on abc now it helps that it was on abc of course but uh that is an enormous number and going on at the same time was the nba all-star game which was widely panned as much as everybody loves seeing nba superstar mac mcclum jump over a car yo if if the nhl had ambassadors like the nbas gary betman would have them killed what do you mean draymond green was a comment oh and he
Starting point is 00:21:31 said it sucks yeah he said it's on air talking about how crap the all-star game yeah well and you know what was amazing is that like listen uh mac mcclung is is electric to watch in the slam Dunn competition no one cares and NBA stars don't want to don't they don't want to do it uh nobody wants to do it and and so there so that was to me that was the price of admission it's not watching the NBA all-stars put up 175 points on each other it's it's watching the slam dunk competition and you have a non-NBA player winning it and doing crazy stuff oh they got the celebrity game too you like Drewski's free throws don't care right and apparently people were talking about the and i didn't see this so it's not totally fair of me to comment but uh people were saying oh it's so
Starting point is 00:22:16 nice they're playing basketball in the middle of this kevin hart special um and so mr beast had some sort of hundred thousand dollar competition um and and what is amazing about this is if i had told you two years ago even last year when the all-star game was in toronto uh oh the the the nhl is going to out i don't know if they outrated but out relevant the nba i i don't think you would have believed me and i think it would have been right not to and finally for once they went head to head with something oh yeah they they just said no we're just doing this yeah they're always making uh to put it in nba terms business decisions and avoiding the the you know going head-to-head with you know maybe they should avoid going head-to-head with the nfl maybe they should
Starting point is 00:23:06 but everyone else give it a shot for god's sake do you have faith in your product or not right and you have this going up against the all-star game we've waxed poetically about the nba and the job they've done for a long time in the show nba didn't have a chance no not a chance hockey won out it's awesome it's been a long time it's been a long time like i i'm i think the number one thing in hockey's way at least in terms of cultural relevance is just visibility like every it matters what stage you perform on and what i mean by that is like if you go you could be the best talent in the world and you go to uh a small outlet with a small following you're gonna disappear right and that's what happened with the nhl after that first
Starting point is 00:23:57 full season lockout was they went to the outdoor life network and you know and things started to pick up when they got back onto nbc and now it's even better that it's espn and tnt although we're not still there we need more abc games right yeah but abc reaches more households it's like if i were to if gary betman were to call us tomorrow and be like guys we want to put all nhl games on sdpn i'd be like gary i'm thrilled that's fantastic but just expect that there's going to be a bit of a viewership drop especially if we pay a wallet and and so that is we'd be rich hockey would not be we don't have the reach right you need to have the reach and and so i think that the nhl finally is in a place where the reach is available where you can get into
Starting point is 00:24:38 the average person's home who's not thinking about this stuff right uh the other thing that kind of slipped under the radar guys is there will be an all-star game next year and it will be in long island so there is going to be an olympic tournament and an all-star game february 2026 so we're going to get both of them in the same month i think it's weird too and i wondered what you guys thought jesse you've been saying that this was going to happen and it happened yeah because they announced it like last year it was a curious decision i would would have just foregone the all-star game for a little bit and just gone world cup olympic bring it back in 27 or something yeah whenever there's a free space in
Starting point is 00:25:16 the calendar because it seems like it's wholly unnecessary now um the nfl has gone completely away from an all-star an all-star game their pro bowl they play flag football and they have they have skills competitions now in between the week between the conference finals and the super bowl they just do that every year and that's a lot better than actually trying to play football Because football, just like hockey, is a game that you can't play at 60%. Once you're on the ice, you have to be out there trying, else the product looks terrible. And that's what we saw in the All-Star Games.
Starting point is 00:25:48 We saw guys not trying to play hockey, and it wasn't a good product. So I don't know. I would just forego the All-Star Game forever. I think there's – because it's such a big corporate event in all of these sports. Like the NBA, that's all it is right now. It's a giant corporate event. They make a lot of money off of it. It's an opportunity for their advertisers to have this moment in the season with all of the stars there.
Starting point is 00:26:11 But they need to create some sort of other event that's just that. You know, it needs to be like NHL Fan Expo every year where you fly in the guys. And we don't need the game and everything in that. Like, we just we need something like this every year where it's Four Nations, it's World Cup, it's Olympics. And your big advertiser event needs to be some sort of fan expo or make it the draft. Make the draft that. And maybe you go away from the... No, we need another All-Star game.
Starting point is 00:26:38 No, maybe you go away from... I know they want to do... What is the word they're using for? Decentralized draft right now. I don't agree with that. I think that's where you make your big corporate event should be at the draft where you fly everybody in. Have some of the superstars there
Starting point is 00:26:51 doing their corporate schmooze thing and make it that because that's always been a great fan tradition. And let's forego All-Star games. You can do a non-decentralized draft, right? You can have everybody there and not make the broadcast ass you don't have to have every team come up with their 40 fucking people and thank 40 million people like have the commissioner come out like he did make the make
Starting point is 00:27:14 the draft pick on behalf of the new jersey devils or blah blah blah blah so we don't have to thank the city 40 million times and make jokes and all that shit and someone's granddaughter is on the stage who the hell is that we don't need that like i agree with you jesse i think you need to have some sort of corporate event that the nhl owns the nhl does not own the olympics you need to have that that's what the all-star is it usually is a great way let's be honest it's great for the city that it's in it's great for flying clients in and making them feel special and having the meat you know and it's good for business to do the all-star game it's not a great product so they're gonna have to find a way to make this good and i think i got it what is it skills competition okay
Starting point is 00:27:57 in the afternoon early afternoon and it's not a long thing it starts at like noon last two hours it's only nikita kucherov night one of the yeah no he's just trolling bro hilarious bro yeah oh yeah everyone's laughing so hard um night night one of the draft next day is day two oh have the skills competition same weekend as the draft oh that's fun now you might not get you might not get the stanley cup winners there well they're hung over and sore that's fine like you have the like listen attendance will be poor from the stars um but they're not going to do it begrudgingly you might have some players that actually want to be there the only thing i
Starting point is 00:28:48 i would need to look into is how difficult would it be to uh get the arena set up all right it's ice and in five hours it's got to be the draft floor or you could just do it in different locations or that no i would do it in cities that can support both like vegas is a perfect location for that because you hold the skills competition at t-mobile and you do the draft to the sphere you do something like that in in la in la at crypto you you do the skills competition then the one next door what is the la live or whatever the the venue is that just for concerts next door hold it there you know hold the draft there you do do it in in uh out in inglewood or wherever they have the the big stadium there for the nfl team yeah i love that do it there like
Starting point is 00:29:34 there's there's options here in cities that can support both so do both and i think that's a great idea i'm gonna ask a really dumb question as someone who once bought fake tickets to madison square garden so i didn't get to go inside would it be possible to do one thing on one floor of madison square garden and do another thing yes of course it would on another floor yeah but it means the nhl's got to rent space from dames dolan again and they ah well we just said the sphere they should yeah that's it that's his that's what i'm saying yeah yeah so but i feel like they should never do the draft away from vegas again why would you move it to any other city no disrespect to any other city it should be a vegas event i think we know because you're going to make people listen
Starting point is 00:30:16 if you want to have that skills competition there you got to make it a city that's a real destination that they can come and have fun and bring their families vegas is perfect for that it's meant to be that i are we gonna hand out the cup in august next year well i'm trying oh you mean because of the calendar no because it's roughly it's roughly ish what we've taken a break here for four nations right because we've gotten three weeks off right so if just two plus the one no it's not three weeks the it's it's been 10 days hasn't it and then we don't come back to the 22nd damn well the olympics if i remember correct the olympics are two full weeks and the last game oh i thought it was longer than that no olympics are two weeks they're always two
Starting point is 00:30:57 weeks but they the last game for hockey because it is the marquee event when nhl players are there yes is the last day yes so are they going to go right to all-star so all the players that play in the olympics like ah you don't have to do all-star we'll just all-star should be before so you have a before i think it's before on the calendar so they're gonna have the first ever some star game that's what i'm saying like it's a weird it's a weird yeah it's a weird decision just to host all-star again i'm not into it yeah not into it like you've given me a taste of something so much better um i didn't i didn't come to popeyes for the biscuits yeah give it i'll i'll eat them i like them but it's a game for the chicken if you're gonna do 26 uh
Starting point is 00:31:41 olympics 28 world cup all that stuff then i think that the all-star game in between those years on the 27 and the 29 are gonna make a lot of sense good you're a good little you know hey this is fun yeah uh great can't wait for next year yeah right yes no they figured something out with the four nations because you get games where guys are trying and you start the conversation with the nba like that's the whole thing the the product sucks because nobody out there is trying and nobody we've discovered that the watching public through the previous generations okay maybe a little we were entertained by the all-star game it definitely had its moments in the early 2000s we all remember vince carter we all didn't mind those all-star games or we saw the spectacular
Starting point is 00:32:21 stuff but now that we see the stars so often and the games like we're more interested in the actual games part of it we don't care to see these exhibition matches so you have to manufacture something that the fans actually want the nfl like to their credit they've done a great job because of how their season is aligned where they only have one game for each playoffs they've made their corporate schmooze event the super bowl where everybody's there for two weeks like they don't need the all-star event because they have their corporate schmooze event and they don't have like the the top stars playing in the in the in the pro bowl skills thing because they're in the super bowl that week but they're all there doing media and everything so you get all of that stuff
Starting point is 00:32:59 and you have to go away from what you've had traditionally for the last 50 years of sports in the nba and nhl where you play this all-star game mid-season and just create something new and credit the nhl for doing it now continue that manufacture something else so we don't have the all-star game and that draft skills competition thing is great because then you get the same kind of kind of event around that and move forward and the nba needs to revamp the way they do things too because yeah they're only failing each and every year the conversation just gets worse around the nba and all-star weekend and it makes them look bad it makes them look bad and and and frankly sometimes perception is reality the nba probably tripled whatever the nhl rated on saturday
Starting point is 00:33:40 night and that's just cultural relevance that's years and years of building and all of that but there's no question what the more entertaining of the events were this weekend yeah and i and And here's the thing, All-Star as a format is very old. I'm going to give you a stat. Gordie Howe fought at an All-Star game. Do you know what year? 1959. Jesse, give me a year.
Starting point is 00:34:06 65. 1948. Oh, my God. Holy shit! Wow. When did the Korean War begin? He fought... Okay, it's so insane.
Starting point is 00:34:16 So, first off, the All-Star game was in November, And back then it was the rest of the all-stars from the other team versus the previous Stanley Cup winners. Which is kind of a cool format. It's a cool format. That could make some sense, right? But Gordie Howe fought Gus Mortensen, who was a Toronto Maple Leafs defenseman.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He was just 20 years old and in his third season with the Red Wings. And this is the point that, like, okay, I just gave you the date, 1948, right? you know cliff fletcher is barely in his 30s at that point but my point my point to that is like that's a really old idea you know it's not totally surprising like art you know it's like hey we're still doing late night show formats from the 1940s you know what i mean television no filming elvis from the hips down it's exactly it's all moved on from then except for this idea that the all-star game could be good and in no sport is it good 1948 is crazy yes crazy right i mean you're you're talking pre-color television you're talking probably this game wasn't on
Starting point is 00:35:23 television like you'd have no idea i have no idea i bet it sounded insane on a refrigerator size radio yeah no it's clearly an outdated format and we've all jumped the shark on it as a watching public and we don't really care about it anymore and the nba conversation around has gotten really toxic where internally like their own players are criticizing it and and like that's that's just they're at a desperation point with this thing what did you think about lebron uh showing up but then a few hours before pulling out yeah that was that wasn't a great look that was now i was thinking just as an aside maybe the nba knew they didn't want to announce it but they wanted him there because you can't sell the game necessarily without lebron at it because he's still the
Starting point is 00:36:09 biggest star okay so they did sell it and if they did know i want my money back okay i just want to know what you guys thought of that because like is it was because people lebron's taken a lot of heat for this and that to me doesn't feel like i feel like lebron obviously would show up anyway and be in the crowd but i think that's the nba going let's not tell anyone about this otherwise our ticket prices are going down like what what do you think the theory is it was a protest oh because he doesn't like the format that's at very least that's what's floating around reddit and we all know it isn't that is the news front page of the internet baby wouldn't he just say that though because he's lebron like what are you going to say to him well he might get find a whole
Starting point is 00:36:50 big bunch i don't know imagine oh yeah no i'm just pulling out of this i don't want to play then it's a whole thing right but if he comes he takes the pictures is it crappy jesse like do you think it was people like oh that's really shitty lebron like i don't think it was great like i i think it was a little too too last minute i didn't like like i love the the way the nfl props up their own players and we do it in hockey really well too like guys on pre-games when when they're when they're talking to the tnt panel and their headset because you know sports net doesn't do that um up here uh so when the americans are doing the broadcast and they're talking with the guys and it's all fun and jovial and they're always hyping up the players and they'll criticize the game too
Starting point is 00:37:31 but it's always a great relationship with the fans and the media the thing that bothered me the most i guess about the lebron stuff is the way nba commentators are so quick to criticize the game and the players like everybody jump and whenever there's a small issue with with the nba and the players or anything that goes wrong we see the old guard jump on the new generation and i hate that relationship that nba commentators have with the players and it doesn't seem like they like the game like you you watch you watch the guys on the nba tnt panel looks like all of them like shack especially like he just loves dumping on on the new generation we had it better in the 90s were tougher and all that stuff these guys are so much more skilled than every 90s basketball player
Starting point is 00:38:14 and i'd love to hear people who talk about the nba say these things and you never get that but we get it in other sports and it's a shame that we've reached this point with the nba where it's like oh we all got a pile on lebron like that like fucking enjoy the game do you guys even like basketball sometimes i wonder when these guys are talking about i mean no they tell you no kevin garnett is always on the paul pierce and kevin garnett are always just like well it was so much better kevin's kevin garnett's a guy who loves basketball yeah he plays for the pure joy of the game and that's like you you question his decisions online on on uh yeah him having a million burner accounts and going at fans on twitter all day that's durant durant
Starting point is 00:38:56 kevin durant i'm talking garnett i was talking garnett because hey i find uh kg and paul pierce are grumpy oh oh that's where i was going no durant like paul pierce isn't even entertaining to watch kevin garnetta at least i'm like okay that's fun yeah yeah but i just you're like kevin garnett and paul pierce sorry i thought you said durant when you said garnett um kevin garnett and paul pierce are exactly what i'm talking about yeah and two guys who sit around and fucking bitch and moan about basketball it's like this is your life and these players that are the next generation are going to be the reason that your legacies continue because basketball will still continue and you should probably give back to the game that gave you your entire life
Starting point is 00:39:38 and be supportive of the product and they just sit around and complain about it and it's a shame and i have i i understand the whole thing about all the the analytics have taken over it's in every sport right where it's like you're taking threes or you're in the paint and you're not taking jump shots from the outside oh they got better at the game right oh they discovered that this is the way you win well oh no that's like that's like people being mad about the the 80s lakers in showtime right like it's like oh they changed the way that the game is played well i hate it i i want to go back and i think you should put people on who like basketball yeah i think it's important to like your sport like you know how seldomly i turn on a hockey game i'm like this
Starting point is 00:40:20 is a hunk of crap yeah yeah yeah this is like there's always something special about it even if the the product that night isn't the greatest listen Craig Berube's coach the Leafs all season like I understand I understand but there's always a story there are always special moments and I've so rarely turned on a basketball game and been like this is a waste of my time and garbage like maybe you're just not interested in the team's playing yeah yeah and and and you know listen we're we've been accused of that from time to time too and it's because well we've never we have been highly critical of the nhl in certain instances and i think there are people sometimes there are people sometimes who are like hey uh you guys sure bitch a lot uh what's you know do you just
Starting point is 00:41:07 not like hockey and like listen i i think that that the difference for us has always been the game is itself is the best fucking game yes it's it was always best game run by worst our gripe is never with hockey like the gripe is always with the nhl and so with these guys their gripe is with the actual play yeah and it's not the all-star gameplay it's literally regular season play not like in the all-star format i think is different but it's that it's the current conversation that has led into hey also these guys just don't seem to enjoy the sport yeah like at all well and you know the thing is that's part of what happens when you get older too when you're less relevant is and Draymond's gonna discover this when he retires is like
Starting point is 00:41:50 hey man your your glory days are actually in the past and unless he might win a championship this year totally but you he's an active NBA player who's like the thing I do for a living stinks but if you have like unless you do what Shaq has done or and Barkley and those guys that have you know created something new and had a renaissance in their career a lot of guys leave the games that they're in and then get grouchy about it because the game leaves them behind because spotlights never last forever and once you're out of it you're out did you see the Dwight Howard stuff with Shaq or the most recent Stephen A Smith saying they should sign Dwight Howard no um like so Shaq just dumps on him at every opportunity oh okay and Dwight Howard was finally like do we
Starting point is 00:42:32 have to throw hands like enough like that's enough yeah like how long are you gonna do this yeah you know what like hey man neither of us play anymore like yeah what are you doing how is playing in mongolia oh okay great i'm kidding i mean he's not in the nba is yeah no no you know okay so you're gonna keep talking about do we have to fight yeah i mean this is the this is the thing right it's less about the game um let's get back to hockey for a sec here because i think it's you know this is a huge victory for the nhl and this is the first time i think on this entire podcast run and that goes back 13 years where we can say the nhl objectively put a better product uh not just in terms of what's on the ice but marketing and drama and stakes and everything
Starting point is 00:43:19 reception reception is crazy people liked it uh saturday night obviously you had the you had the double header you had finland sweden which was a i i you know i understand people have lives and families and it's hard to do uh but watching that finland sweden game was amazing and i and i i don't want to bury the lead i know canada us is the best game i get it the hockey play was insane but that finland sweden game for finland to get an overtime goal and win that game i wish we had a live camera at at one of the bars in in malmo or somewhere like that uh helsinki or whatever You know, I want to know what it looked like on the faces of the Finns. And, you know, we can't run it, but that radio call that's going around to that Finns broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Awesome. Just spectacular stuff. And then you've got Canada, United States. In Montreal, there's the booing the national anthem thing. The prime minister is there. Kale McCarr is out. You know, you've got question marks and goaltending for Team Canada. I almost said Toronto.
Starting point is 00:44:24 uh and for both of them right jesse yeah yeah fraud watch fraud watch oh yeah yeah yeah no yeah usa needs to look out for their holes in that yeah exactly right swiss cheese that connor hellebuck that uh that fraud watch is the greatest thing you've ever it's so funny especially because it's the greatest goalie in the world right now i don't know hilarious we're on watch um and you know keeping our eye on the case for it essentially to be a one goal game until the last couple of minutes like i i look at the the canada usa game it was a 3-1 game but two of the usa goals were scored on a real net no you know and and and and frankly if you look at some of the advanced stats canada actually had more high dangerous scoring uh you know what i'm but they didn't
Starting point is 00:45:15 Full up on the rebounds. Full blown. Old man yells at cloud. Finished. Okay. Give it to me. Why? Because last night, Canada, Finland, not to skip ahead.
Starting point is 00:45:27 No, no. Give it to me. Yeah, that's fine. Finland scoring chances. Everything dominated Canada. My ass. No, they didn't. Did you watch the game?
Starting point is 00:45:35 No, they didn't. Yeah. I saw the deserve to win a meter floating around. I was like that. There seems like something wrong with that. I don't even have a big diatribe. No, they didn't. So anyway, and moving on into reality.
Starting point is 00:45:46 So what did you think of? Because Finland-Sweden was pretty well matched, I thought. Yeah. Canada-USA. It's a one goal game. So to me, I'd want to know, I would separate the numbers into two things. I would separate them into the first 40 minutes when the game was, well, I was going to say close.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It was close the whole time. The first 40 minutes that was played like a back and forth hockey game. Well, maybe not the first two. we'll get to that and then the third period where the states were happy to just give canada the puck over and over and over again no wonder canada had more shot attempts and shots on goal and scoring chances that the states just crawled into a shell for 20 minutes click just mashed harden and it worked out it worked out for them um canada looked like the better team for that period because the States just kept giving it to him.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Clear it. Kept giving it to him. Clear it. Kept giving it to him. Rushed the puck out this time. Ah, dump it. That was it. That was it.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Bennington came up big a couple times because Canada got caught because obviously they're cheating for offense. But that game, I thought the margins were razor thin. Yeah. Which means you got to stop that first goal. Yeah. From Jake Henson.
Starting point is 00:47:07 and and i think that we'll get to players under the the spotlight oh yeah we skipped all the fights um uh we did skip all the fights uh uh well i guess we should talk about that i mean that do you want to talk about that after the big story oh i guess we should yeah let's do what it is sometimes life throws your curveballs and you don't have time to get to them and that's where task rabbit comes in and i think you should check this out because here's the deal one of the things One of the weird quirks about my condo building is that they use my floor to rappel down and clean all the windows, but they never clean my windows. Uh-oh. And their way around on that is like, well, it's a patio window.
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Starting point is 00:48:46 I mean, last year, Boston-Toronto Game 7, which did go to overtime, I think there was 350,000 people that tuned into your stream, which is a crazy number and less people tuned in on Saturday night to, you know, this Thursday, it could be more, we don't know, but it's looking like it's going to be pretty electric.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And it seems like the players saw it too, felt it too. And there's three fights to start the game, the Kachucks and obviously JT Miller all wanted to fight. And I think most of them were pretty even. um i i think colton pareko size advantage over uh jt miller was pretty noticeable the kachuks had significant size advantage in both of their fights and then pareko miller was uh returning the favor yeah that was like david goliath sort of thing that was nice um when you're in that moment
Starting point is 00:49:39 forget the because we don't know what it's like to be a player in that moment when you're steve in that moment what was it like well the first fight is is surprise but i won't say shock like i'll say surprise because i mean hegel was a surprise matthew kachuk was not even sort of a surprise and a lot of a lot of leaf fans are gonna hate what i'm about to say that's the captain the captain of the united states is matthew kachuk what are we doing stop it that's a ceremonial c wow matthew kachuk he led the charge of the three fights he had the first one that's the captain stop surprised but i was like you know what this is so charged and it's matthew kachuk i'm not
Starting point is 00:50:37 shocked that this is happening his dad did it it's kind of funny the moment kind of called for it let's go brady kachuk fights sam bennett i'm completely shocked completely shocked and miller looks like he wants to go too but then he doesn't the third fight happens like i know i'm watching something legendary we will always reference this game will never not talk about this game um that is a defining moment for every player involved my only regret is like Miller Pareko was third because like those guys might be forgotten a little because it wasn't off the opening face-off that's the biggest moment of brady kachuk's career name a bigger one i think that's the biggest game he's played in at the pro
Starting point is 00:51:36 level no question no question and that's not his fault and matthew kachuk like outside of playing in the stanley cup final with a broken sternum then winning it the next year in game seven yeah against the best player on the planet uh that's two players on the planet honestly he's the captain uh he does that off the opening draw dude I'm a Leafs fan I hate Brandon Hagel I hate him what a mouth I hate his face he's always talking he's always yapping and he's so good and he's on just a redonkulous contract and then seeing Brandon Hagel take on a bigger opponent and then angrily say, I'm not backing down.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I love him. One stroke. You guys do a show with me. Do I like Sam Bennett? Yes or no? No, you don't like him. Hate him! You don't.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Fiery rage hate him. I've called him a diver because he is, but not in red and white or red and pearl. yeah it's like it is like an off white yeah but i like it red and coffee teeth right yes it's okay i have red and coffee teeth he looks great in red and coffee teeth it's one of my favorite jerseys they've ever made and again he takes on a bigger opponent
Starting point is 00:53:07 a way bigger opponent and he does okay and right there it maybe wasn't for some reason the same affection that i had for brandon hagel in that moment uh i you know what was terrifying about that moment i'll i'll tell you like as a streamer as a as a reaction guy every game seven i've done man i've streamed a bunch too 2021 2022 uh 2023 and 2024 because the leafs always go to friggin yep or no 2023 was not right but it was a chance for the leafs to clinch um there's always a pressure to it i know people are watching but they're feeling the same pressure i do they want their team to win there's a finality to the game let's see what happens right this moment felt like and this might seem like a strange comparison uh two different moments
Starting point is 00:54:13 of my career um one you were there for Adam it it felt like my first stream with Sportsnet my first live game stream was game one against Montreal when John Tavares got knocked out and there were people behind the scenes that didn't want me to stream they thought streaming was a waste of the company's time didn't want to do it and well there's a reason they're not still doing it yeah they should they should still be doing it but they're, they're not, that's fine. They, I, I immediately, like there were thousands and thousands of people watching that game, but when Tavares went down and we don't know what's going to happen next. And it's obviously a very serious injury. And I have to tap dance now for like 20
Starting point is 00:55:01 minutes. I, I felt, uh, like I was, uh, I wasn't being watched for entertainment. I was being watch to be evaluated if that makes sense the other one was you and i going on the radio the day after oh yeah got traded to the raptors are we out of our depth or not we're gonna have these two hockey guys go on in the summer and it's whatever they're just filling in we're gonna have to talk about hockey and then yeah we're gonna no no it's tennis and golf season but we'll just let them talk about hockey that was the plan yeah and then it's like nope you're gonna talk about kawaii for three hours yep and again i just felt like i was being evaluated the moment of that game was bigger than the game and then a magical thing happened where the players met
Starting point is 00:55:55 the moment head on it's so special like i'm so i'm tearing up like i'm i'm it's so special and such a privilege to be involved in a moment like that like you pray to get one of those in your in your life like in your in your career to have something that you're like i i called that like i i was on camera for that i got to be a small part of that even though i wasn't in the building it wasn't even in the same province um that was unbelievable that was one of the most unbelievable moments of since i started making videos nearly 20 years ago so you loved it i fucking loved it i wish so bad canada won yeah but so i could remember it a little more funnily but you know that was unreal jesse what was your this is again because again we have to remember like
Starting point is 00:56:51 we understand that people have lives and stuff but for us this is we literally live and breathe this all the time because it's the job and and we're thrilled to do it did you wake up with any sort of anxiety or feelings or and the reason i'm asking you is because it's obvious that i did because of course i did you are of the three of us on this show the very the coolest and calmest and most together in moments like that okay how did you feel waking up and thinking about that game that night in terms of like going into the game yeah like are you feeling like as a fan are you feeling yeah you would you like you're rooting for them to win and everything the loss doesn't feel like the end of the world because there's thursday yeah but yeah going into that game
Starting point is 00:57:32 the reaching the moment part is i think the uh is the key there and what you said steve because yeah going in like what they did in the first nine seconds of the clock ticking away in those three fights everybody on the ice reached that moment you felt like yeah this is what my going into the game feeling was and now we're at that level and everything is equaling that and that's that was so cool to watch and and with with thursday now and seeing how saturday played out i i don't think you can be a hundred percent confident in canada's abilities on thursday because of how saturday started and the kachuk brothers and what you were talking about and how they are captains because like their their dad keith is the last person to fight in one of these
Starting point is 00:58:20 games hilarious the the 1996 world cup is the last time we had a canada versus usa brawl on international ice because the double ihf doesn't allow fighting you can't have fighting at the world cup that are sanctioned by them or the olympics so we had a world cup that replaced the canada cup in 1996 and keith kachuk in seven games played that tournament had 44 penalty minutes that's amazing and he birthed two kids who are as psycho as him i love it and they're the ones who were texting the group chat beforehand about this fight thing and they came out and and they spearheaded this moment obviously canada rose to that occasion and fought back and all that but like the start of that game made me worry about thursday where i was always confident canada was
Starting point is 00:59:10 gonna beat finland but that start i'm like okay are they able to match that energy in terms of the play on the ice now and in that game they weren't with with the shaky one from biddington when it's a one goal game essentially two one loss every goal matters and you have that that that goalie in net who allows the weak one early on and that stuff scares me so i have more anxiety leaving that game than i did have interesting yeah because no thursday thursday worries me because they everything well yeah everything's for team usa to win the johnny goudreau storyline yeah about how like this is for him like how can you not feel for the team in that respect the way that they have the guys who are it seems like they're able to reach the moment moment more
Starting point is 00:59:58 than the canadian guys currently even though like we got crosby you know but we've never seen it out mcdavid in these moments so we didn't i mean he's starting to show it though i mean and he did he did in the finals too it's great but i would need you to win yeah i need you to win so i have more anxiety about uh going up against a fraud maybe and connor hellebuck the rest of the american team going into this game that i do for saturday which makes sense because higher stakes sam bennett said today this is chris johnston uh i think messages were sent in the last game this game it's all about winning so i don't expect there's going to be huge fights off the top and i think anybody with a wow i could have told you that um but but to put a nice capstone on what we've been talking
Starting point is 01:00:38 about john cooper just said about 15 minutes ago nothing's done more for hockey in the last decade than what this tournament has done yep he's absolutely right correct and i think secondarily to that last spring stanley cup final yeah yeah i think connor mcdavid connor mcdavid and the florida panthers and you know and like i think and i think the preamble to that was the previous one between vegas and florida oh and sorry i would like to um there was something i vaguely remember us talking about and we were talking about the the stardom of certain players and we were talking about connor mcdavid and then i think you went oh and matthew kachuk he was in gq or whatever it was on people magazine people magazine and i was like adam uh take it back take it back he's
Starting point is 01:01:28 there now he's there the listen i don't want is anyone more american than matthew kachuk i mean no no single kid no single hockey player has ever been more of an american than matthew kachuk this is why like i don't want to i i hope people don't think i'm trying to insult austin matthews by calling kachuk the captain he is at minimum the emotional heartbeat absolutely of that team and one thing that i think it it's it's a little just brushstroke on on the first period that makes it so perfect that the group chat that we know exists were that that got jt miller to fight anyone he pick colton and the kachuks no no but miller being in there is is what makes it a masterpiece because it's not the kachuks fighting yeah it's the americans if it's just the kachuks
Starting point is 01:02:27 oh yeah bash brothers it's all of them it does make me question what the hell was going on in the flames dressing room when when matthew kachuk when they were like oh we just don't like that he gets into side stuff i'm like man you're right that dressing room sucks the the dumbest guy the dumbest decision by a locker room of guys to alienate that player stupid yeah so genuinely stupid set the flames back no question uh and and here's what brandon haggle had to say to chris about two minutes ago he said i was thinking to myself laying in bed the night before the first game you know if this is going to be an all-star type thing i'm going to be so out of place tomorrow because i'm literally gonna put my head through a window uh he said that was my mentality
Starting point is 01:03:13 and i mean that is that speaks to the intensity of and that was canada sweden guys that wasn't even canada oh states he's talking about that game um you know that kind of speaks to just how much this means and i know it means a lot in finland and sweden as well um and i know it means a lot to NHL players because you know you guys saw that you know David Pasternak was interviewed
Starting point is 01:03:38 during the USA Finland game and you know in a white t-shirt in a white he's just hanging out there in a white t-shirt he's got like 40 of them yeah
Starting point is 01:03:46 he said he hopes his teammates get hat tricks and I think it's gonna be a little hard for Swayman to get a hat trick yeah but Brad Marchand I wouldn't mind that
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Starting point is 01:05:49 right now uh we've got the link in our description but it's als super fun dot ca slash the dash people the people so it's als super fun.ca slash the dash people check it out um i wanted i wanted i want to pivot a little here to players under the microscope because of this tournament okay there are players under the good microscope and players under the bad microscope and i'm just going to give names and we can kind of go through them sure uh i will say these two stats about sweden are hilarious okay sweden had a better tournament i think than anybody really gives them credit for they are the only team to not lose in regulation that's really funny and they finish they finish last technically no no no no finland's last yes tied with canada tied with canada yeah
Starting point is 01:06:33 oh that's right sorry sorry sorry um you're right my bad sweden are also the only team not to score power play goal the entire tournament which is wild yeah kind of a wild thing and you look at you look at their tournament and sweden's tournament if we were a swedish hockey podcast we'd be saying today all of those games were one goal games yep two of those games were ot games yeah we could have been in the finals no problem that's how competitive it was now people under the microscope i say sweden and i'm going to start here elias pettersson he didn't do anything he didn't do anything he deserves it you went into this tournament everyone's like this is going to be a good reset for him and he did nothing bad what else you want me to say i mean
Starting point is 01:07:14 i guess the the swedish coach said that he was playing good 3f hockey like taking care of the puck and stuff but like that's not why you have elias patterson well i mean that's i during the canada usa video i waxed poetically about what a great defensive job austin matthews has done um and like you know i i didn't see i didn't really see that out of patterson like not to a degree where i was like wow this guy's the new barkoff like man there's a guy out there jesse your thoughts on pedersen do you have anything to add i don't think we can fully take away what he does on the defensive side of the game like i think he's he's upped what he does in terms of his whole game like i feel like he's a more complete player than he was in previous years
Starting point is 01:08:02 but if you're looking for him to put up points he didn't do that but i don't think he was useless out there for sure i think i think the defensive side of hockey is sometimes underrated and he was effective defensively right right they need him to be effective on both sides though yeah that's the thing you're paying somebody 11.5 you want them to be effective in all areas am i but this this isn't there's no salary cap in this so it's a little different am i crazy to think that he could still get traded by the trade deadline um because it sure feels like he could use a change of scenery too the Canucks have to be the team to make the call I'm not actively calling you for that right now 11 and a half 11 six more than Willie Nylander no no okay no right now for what
Starting point is 01:08:53 for what for what like this conversation so much different than it was you know months ago this isn't a slump anymore this is just how you are he just kind of stinks and I know that's not who he is it's who he's been for quite some time and unless I think I'm a freaking genius which a lot of guys in front offices do I'm not trading for that 11 well because the Canucks problem then becomes yours so you're taking my problem oh and i'm sure the canucks wanna they're eager to take on a problem or two to get rid of elias petterson no like okay gt miller and him oil and water okay he's gone now so you got to figure it out and if you end up losing both
Starting point is 01:09:47 i'm not sure there's a person in that organization who should keep their job uh i don't want to sound like giving a pass either so i had this one piece of criticism for elias give it to us there's 32 players so far in this tournament who have taken a face-off draw okay that's it there's third two where do you think pedersen ranks among the face-off percentage of everybody who's taking a face off i'm not whether it's one or or 10 where do you think he ranks i'm not gonna say this because i know what his stats were mid-game on face-offs yesterday So let Steve take it. 16.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Because I did the stream. Middle of the pack. 32nd. Bro. What did he have, like a 26%? He has a 26.1 face-off percentage, which is inexcusable. And he's last amongst anybody who took a face-off draw in this entire tournament. Yeah, but he got a bunch of goals and assists.
Starting point is 01:10:35 He didn't do that. He has zero goals, zero assists. Even. He prevented. Maybe he prevented a bunch of... You know, those don't show up on the stat sheet, you know? How many shots? No, no.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I genuinely believe that. Like, his defensive game is good. But he's not providing enough Offensively and even like little things like In the face off circle he's not Standing out or in any way there That's at 26% you're a non-option Yeah you should be able to draw
Starting point is 01:11:00 11.6 for Dave Steckle Let's go Alright on the good side I don't know how many Finland games you caught I caught them all Mikko Rantanen Good he got better as the tournament went He sure looked great
Starting point is 01:11:17 didn't he Canada like you look at that finish team and it's a little thin a little thinner than the rest of the teams Rantanen was a menace every time he was out there Canada zeroed in on him they knew they knew uh the finish comeback would run through him or at least uh that was what they figured wrong it was Grandland but uh no he he was he was very good out there as a pending free agent you know we were talking about going into this tournament did he make a mistake not signing in Colorado and then if he goes to Carolina where he's probably not going to put up as many points because they are the Selke team run by the Selke coach is he spending money and I think what we saw was that oh no Mikko Rantanen is still alive and well so I I think I I think
Starting point is 01:12:05 it's two conversations between now and the end of the season Rantanen's number does not change a dollar no matter if he's a heart candidate or bum i don't think it changes a dollar um it's spending money with teams he wants to go to right the teams that stink and have the money and know they're not a destination they're not negotiating with you yeah here 14 mil there you go like like you're talking about some of the bottom rung franchises that have in terms of performance yeah have a lot of caps your your your ducks your your blackhawks your yeah i don't want to throw names out there to be insulting but i think you nailed it um yeah but in terms of teams that you want to go to contenders teams that do got to mind their p's and q's when it comes to
Starting point is 01:12:57 the cap yeah you're spending money with them but you know he might be one of the players who actually gets his legs back because of this tournament okay next one guys um and this is a good one jordan bennington now listen i have never been a fan and i will be admitted with that bias now i'm saying and i've said this on the stream he's my guy now because i'm cheering for team canada so he's my guy yeah but people were saying and and the sports net broadcast specifically was just falling over itself to talk about well he made a bunch of saves at the end and i'm like guys i thought that was such bullshit guys for me and this is where i'm gonna get so boxy a little bit the difference in the canada usa game was one soft goal and they're like well he only let
Starting point is 01:13:47 in one softy yeah at tournaments like this the the the the bar is zero you know how many softies you can allow in tournaments like this zero zero yeah they lost by one goal essentially and one saw he merely cost them the game maybe if he's if he saves that maybe they win like listen canada only had one goal that's inexcusable and i think that's a larger conversation yep or at very least a more complex one we probably can have that tomorrow i don't know if i'd have this guy as the third goalie on my canada b team and like i'm not trying to be a dick make what's a compelling argument he should be starting games over hill well and here's the thing now it's too late it's oh it's way too late no you got to put bennington in the championship game now i spent last week
Starting point is 01:14:35 spreading misinformation that they would try out hill on saturday and once they didn't do that it's over oh it's like you start hill and back to back you started against usa you're done you're committed it was i think i think it's absolutely ridiculous that you because it's not solid like who looks at that roster and says Binnington's it like we're committed the day before one tournament starts one man Binning I mean Doug Armstrong and they're deferring to
Starting point is 01:15:02 Doug because he's one of the more senior guys on the staff Cooper's the head coach yeah but the GMs are making that that's a collective decision I don't believe it's just on it's on John Cooper to override Doug Armstrong but I think anybody with a right mind and a knowledge of hockey
Starting point is 01:15:19 looks at the three goaltenders and they say there's question marks we don't know who's the starters going to be so let's try out too and if the report is to be believed earlier on in the tournament and i'm not sure how good this report was but it was a report that deborah who was on the staff and cassidy who was on the staff both coach and former coach of the vegas golden knights didn't want logan thompson there because they didn't quote unquote like their experience with him and i'm here to tell you this i don't give a shit what your experience was what is he playing like right now is he playing great or is he playing bad logan thompson should
Starting point is 01:15:54 be here and if you don't like him suck it up you big fucking babies like are you kidding me oh you know what sydney crosby yelled at me once i'm not picking him for the team fuck off okay darcy kemper is a golden retriever go and get him then and this is my thing like you and i don't know if i buy that report fully i don't know if i buy that report i think they just made a bad decision in early December when the rosters were due because it didn't look like this was how everything was going to play out. But I also don't think that's
Starting point is 01:16:23 the right decision they should have made. They just made a bad decision. Here's where I get frustrated though, Jesse, and I think you're right, is I think they made this decision before the summer even ended. That's it. Because what did we have? We had fucking people going, oh, Sam Montembeau outside chance. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:16:39 Sam Montembeau? He made the team first game of the season. He made it in August. The Leafs, yeah, he did make it in august there was even the leafs game where he put up listen the leafs fired a bunch of shots at his chest in the home opener and he had 41 saves and that was great and good for sam uh did you not watch a single game since because i did and you know what even if i hadn't all i have to do is go on nhl.com and look up his stats guys this team this team allowed the united states one here's here's a here's a free pass here's free parking do not pass go and i just
Starting point is 01:17:17 think it's a it's a shame that they are so stuck on this but it is so doug kyle dubas it is so doug armstrong all these guys are so fucking surprised adam no is he not guys is he not on the oh i'm sorry no no no no you led with that one loves his guy here's here i already made i already called Doug Armstrong and I'm calling Dubas out and the rest of these guys too why do you think Hockey Canada invited Kyle holy fuck that guy loves his guys so do we you're one of our guys now no listen I don't want this to be an autopsy because body ain't dead listen if he goes out and he put pitches to shut out and it's amazing in Boston I'm gonna be the first one to go Steve I think we're allowed to have the conversation oh yeah what it currently looks like
Starting point is 01:18:02 oh yeah well how many soft goals versus Sweden I say two another soft one versus the United States And what would you say yesterday? Listen, I didn't think Canada was great in those final minutes. No, I thought they provided an abundance of fire drills. That snipe from Lindell's, that's a pretty good goal. I thought Finland was his best game. He made some... Which could be good.
Starting point is 01:18:28 That could be a good thing. Yeah, maybe he's heating up. Two softies, one softie, no softies. Harden. Okay, I'm fine with that. he's bricked up Brickington raw
Starting point is 01:18:42 listen I wouldn't have picked that goalie here's what's gonna be hilarious if Canada wins on Thursday of winning if Canada wins Thursday he will be the Olympic goalie I just hope you're ready for that if Canada wins Thursday he will be the Olympic goalie because those guys are gonna go say
Starting point is 01:18:59 we were right yeah you guys are wrong you commentators are wrong which hey listen we often are yeah but Adam That's the Canadian way. Carey Price should be in the Hall of Fame for this one thing. 2002, Salt Lake. Canada goes in with Cujo. How did Cujo do?
Starting point is 01:19:18 Not good. So they put in Brodeur. Yeah. And he wins. 2010. And it wrecked Cujo's relationship with Pat Quinn and is the reason he signed in Detroit. 2010.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Who did they go with? They go with Brodeur. How does he do? Not good. Not good. Luongo. Who did they go with? Lou.
Starting point is 01:19:34 who was always, and I'm old enough to remember, the obvious choice. 2010 Roberto Luongo? Are you out of your frigging mind not starting that guy? Every opportunity you can? Yeah. They had to get tricked into it. Was that the one where Brodeur baseball swung a puck out of midair in the round robin game?
Starting point is 01:20:00 I can't remember. You don't remember? Okay, okay. He got lit up against the States. I remember that. He didn't do good. His prime was well past at that point. This is a guy that was winning cups in the mid-90s,
Starting point is 01:20:10 and it's 2010, and you're starting him at the Olympics? Now, what's funny about Brodeur is he ended up going to the cup final two years later because it's Martin Brodeur. But in terms of who was better. Dave Clarkson put him on his back. 100%. In terms of who was better at the time, Luongo. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:20:30 So if Bennington starts the Olympics next year, that's okay. That's the Canadian way. Okay. Who started the most recent world championships? Bennington? Their two goalies were Bennington and Hofer. Hofer. Hofer?
Starting point is 01:20:46 Yeah, those were their two goalies. Dude, it was Bennington, Hofer, and holy shit. I don't even remember the third. I want to say it's like the devil's third. But the reason that I think a large reason Johnny Pennington is in this position right now is because he did the last one. No, no.
Starting point is 01:21:03 And Canada did great. Kidding. They blew it against Austria. They fucking suck. They allowed no shots against Norway until Norway's first shot went in. John Gillies, I want to say. I think he probably was.
Starting point is 01:21:18 You're right. Dude. Yeah. But like, it's funny. like drew and i every stream we keep going okay logan thompson darcy kemper mackenzie blackwood i'm in that sounds great there you go and then that conversation about oh canada can't develop good goalies anymore is kind of off the table yeah these guys are leading the league in save percentage in some cases like is it the strongest random at the tournament no we knew that was it's
Starting point is 01:21:45 fine though like it's it's then the conversation becomes a little bit more like the forwards and the d like does that balance out do we have better forwards than they have yeah like there's a team with number one there's a team with number four but it's probably like they're real close together even though you can rank them one to four they're so close that anyone can win same with uh defense in net it's a chasm you can still win but it's gonna be tricky you're playing on legendary uh the next one i want to bring up yep okay yep i know i know let's go mitch marner i think uh people are being uh too hard on him and and this is me tell me this is me i agree with you but i want to know why you think that well okay oh man where's he been where have you
Starting point is 01:22:43 been scored the ot winner in the first game they've only they've only played three what's you done since steve is the is the question they will instantly come back at you with yes okay the mcdavid reinhardt marner line in the game against the states was not good uh well it wasn't i just didn't feel like it had a purpose but from the moment the tournament began i said marner should be with sorelli and someone else yes i don't know if i said hagel but someone else what does coop do puts him with he's coop now he's like he's my coach he's your coach yeah well people were calling him bagel and i'm like can i call him bagel my wife loves john cooper because of that series in 2023 she's like man you can really tell like he's also of course she loves the lawyer
Starting point is 01:23:32 yeah yeah she's like i'm really glad he's our coach no like in terms of like the players McDavid doesn't play with a facilitator like and Dreisaitl is absolutely a facilitator but like he's Leon Dreisaitl
Starting point is 01:23:52 man he's on his worst day the third best goal scorer in the world like he's real real real good it's probably more often than not Connor to Leon
Starting point is 01:24:07 right or connor to d-man who passes to leon whatever and grunt there's no grunt there marner's not a grunt reinhardt's not a grunt so what what are we doing right i'd never like that mix of guys um marner was sorelli and hegel like again you want more offense out of marner you want more offense out of everyone not everyone's going to score a thousand goals the d all these teams play is really good so what do you say though to people who are like he's playing too much perimeter again not driving uh doing all the shit that we see in the playoffs that we complain about i uh i'm not sure what games you're watching okay uh it's it's a lot of hagel is really impressing me and he is playing that what what i want that line's role to be to a t which is
Starting point is 01:25:03 intense which is not what Marner's known for but Marner is a defensively responsible players he wins stick battles he doesn't throw the body around he started to a little bit but he
Starting point is 01:25:18 he wins at more of the dirty stuff than he gets credit for and he doesn't get the credit because he's not crashing and banging around right could he be more intense and a little less timid I won't lie like there are still aspects to his game that look that way in this tournament I think
Starting point is 01:25:39 the craziest thing as a Leaf fan is Marner and Matthews are going to head into a winner take all game and by default one of them has to win one of them has to win and they will feel that experience yeah yeah what it's like lose and for the other guy it'll just be business as usual We had a three out of four chance of winding up this way with Willie Matthews and Marner in the tournament, and we got here. Finland winning would have been legitimately very funny. Hey, didn't happen. Didn't happen. Didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:26:14 You know, it's because Hockenpah wasn't there. Because Hockenpah wasn't there. Hockenpoppy. Now, he wasn't there. No, no. Hockenpoppy. I think Marner is a lightning rod. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Because of his name. Dude, the chat during the Canada-Sweden game, you guys kept laughing at me because, like, you're not able to listen to the stream because you were standing around me right you were watching the game you're in the bar well jesse was harassing you too with his sweden jersey he was and then but you guys kept laughing because you kept hearing me talking about going in on marner yeah because the chat was going in on marner and i was just reading the comments and i'm like man like i really don't think he's having like a terrible game like i'd like to see this or i'd like to see that and then he gets the ot winner and it was hilarious and really funny and blah
Starting point is 01:27:00 the lines make more sense with mitch marner on that third line there yeah i don't and he's he's there's been three games and he has an ot winner and one and then he's been he's put on a line now that makes more sense for him we like we why are we criticizing we spoke to someone who characterized it as a demotion and i'm like what was rick nash demoted at the 2010 olympics no every line someone's like go play defense right every line's a good line yes yes well i mean it's all about the mix if you're gonna be hard on marner about those couple of games or like the team usa game specifically they got nothing out of crosby mckinnon for those first couple periods nothing there was nothing doing how about crosby gave the game away yeah yeah turnover he get it's a
Starting point is 01:27:45 terrible turnover you could argue uh harley could have had a better line change but the way i look at it you know maybe he stayed at the bench a little too long he advances the puck up the ice Canada's got three forwards in the offensive zone it's Sidney Crosby with time and space it's second period so I have a long change there's nowhere else I'd rather the puck be than in the offensive zone on Sidney Crosby's stick I'm going for a change yeah so he goes for a change Crosby throws an absolute yep just grenade to sam bennett um and it never makes it to sam bennett puck goes the other way and it's in perfect shot from dylan larkin i talked about it briefly when i was talking about my anxieties going into thursday and how i think team team usa might be primed to
Starting point is 01:28:30 win this thing and some of that is due to crosby's clearly still dealing with whatever injury he had going into this tournament yep and i mentioned at the amount he's deferring crosby is currently shooting 50 on shots on goal i mean that's great he has two shots this tournament his first shot on goal this tournament came against finland and then his second wait was the hit and then the empty net right he has two shots on goal this tournament because he can't physically muster up the willpower to shoot because he's clearly injured he has to pass on everything and i think the other players can tell because of how they're attacking him and every time he gets the puck you know he's going to defer he has two shots on goal and i worry like if the injury still lingers into
Starting point is 01:29:18 thursday maybe like between now and thursday he's all better and his his wrists i think it's his arm i don't know it's upper body something they never disclose maybe that's why he's not shooting because of some sort of injury and if you are just out there passing the puck and everybody knows that that's a liability in some cases so there was a oh god i really wish i remember the account i think it was on instagram they were talking about like this tournament is the best of the best players in the world and even the best of the best make mistakes and it wasn't about crosby's giveaway it was about a moment in the finland game where crosby's alone in front but he instead of stopping in front he curls back and turns his back to the play while his back is turned to the play mckinnon
Starting point is 01:30:04 gives him a tapping that just sails into the corner because crosby's not there anymore and they talk about it when they go when they go to the bench and they have a they laugh about it because it's probably four nothing at the time yeah um but like there's always more to give you never assume even the greatest player in the world one of the greatest players of all time is always going to make the right decision i imagine crosby is going to stay with nate i'm trying to remember what the lines were at the end of the game but i imagine crosby stays with nate i think i'd like to see stone with mcdavid hmm he needs a grunt like to do the takeaways and just give it to mcdavid yes i love by the way i love cheering for mark stone
Starting point is 01:30:51 vegas fans you were so lucky uh his takeaways are unreal oh my god i'm glad we have i'm glad we have willie for it but wouldn't it be nice if we had another guy who could do that just on that level that's crazy i mean there's no bad players like that's that's why like i felt bad for finland at times because like i'm like okay so there's crosby taking the puck off earl vacanainen who's playing 15 under 15 and a half minutes of this season and he's not even their least experienced d-man yeah monten paulo who's looked pretty good yeah i give him credit like monten paulo look great he's got like 11 nhl games under his belt like it's insane uh this tournament by the way Did you see the Brock Nelson knocking Sam Harrison over yesterday?
Starting point is 01:31:29 He literally, in front of Wes McCauley, pushed him over. And Wes McCauley was like, I'd rather leave the game. I'm injured now. Is he okay? I don't know. I'm not really sure what happened there. But he just kind of left and couldn't be there. And yo, you never hear of a ref leaving.
Starting point is 01:31:44 So I hope he's all right. But he needs to get his eyes checked. That was a terrible missed call. No, he saw it. He saw it. Yeah. I mean, it has been a NHL friggin... Reft tournament, for sure.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Late series. This tournament started at Game 5. Yeah. Right? In terms of the intensity of all the games and the officiating. So on Saturday, March the 1st, I am hosting what's called the Carly's Angels Legacy Gala. It's celebrating 10 years of the Carly's Angels Foundation
Starting point is 01:32:17 honoring Carly herself, Carly Allison. And this was put together by her family. Carly was diagnosed at, I think, 15, 16 years old with a very rare form of cancer, like one person in Canada had it and she was it. And basically, the family afterwards put together this foundation. And they are a pretty incredible family, the Allisons. but basically what they want to do is raise money for integrative cancer care and this is in partnership with sick kids and princess margaret cancer center both incredible organizations uh carly's angels also spreads carly's message always smile carly was known for her strength and positivity which she shared on her blog uh and obviously she had a netflix film made about her too called kiss and cry you could check it out you were in that right i was i was my voice was in it at the end yes okay um that counts that yeah that counts yeah that counts you make the
Starting point is 01:33:11 credit um yeah and her story and her blog also inspired a novel always smile carly allison secrets to laughing loving and living you can uh help either buy tickets uh to come to the gala at carlysangels.ca uh or you can donate through that as well and again it's sick kids it's the princess margaret uh they're incredible organizations and i hope you can check it out now one more name guys one more name and then we'll go to press conference one more name and i'm going to start with jesse on this one your famous fraud two goals allowed in two games connor halibut i thought you're gonna go willie not willie no i mean we could talk willie if you want no he uh he set up the nice uh who scored the broad goal the which one yeah by the way
Starting point is 01:33:54 jesper bratt jesper bratt jesper bratt there you go wow what a tournament holy shit really good player wow yeah he was he was sweden's most noticeable forward yes he was every game every game anyway sorry let's talk about the fraud connor hellebuck who will have been great like he's been this is this is what we talked pre-tournament and we can't be surprised that this is how it played out we said the forward groups are really tight the defense is really tight canada usa one two there is a difference in these two rosters and one of them has the best goaltender in the nhl in the entire world right now in net and that's team usa and he has performed like that yes like it's it's been it hasn't been a surprise i'm gonna be the head up
Starting point is 01:34:39 his own ass thinks he's smarter than everyone else guy uh canada's got to do a better job getting to the net go to the net during the championship game second and third rebounds i don't like the way he tracked the puck against canada there were so many instances in that game go back and watch where he had no idea where the puck was it left a canadian stick he had no idea where it was go watch now with that i want to just say that we are doing the show again tomorrow because obviously uh it's a compressed week uh because of the long weekend i had a whole segment on the blue jays that i wanted to put in because vlad guerrero jr and the jays they passed their thing. They're
Starting point is 01:35:22 self-imposed season limit. Vlad and the Jays are not going to negotiate in season. He is going to be a free agent next year. I want to talk to you guys about it, but I want to save it for tomorrow's show. So can we do that? Are you guys okay with that? Alex, Steve's watch. Is that cool? Jesse, you're good
Starting point is 01:35:39 with that? Yeah. All right. Cool. I'm just teasing that for tomorrow. Leafs practice today. We can talk hockey. Yeah, we can. We can. Nah. What were the lines? What did Steve's look like? They don't practice till 2 30. Lazy. Okay. All right. So we'll talk about that too uh so let's do the press conference the steve dangle press conference are you gonna love brandon hagel after this one what i did last game i did for the flag not for the cameras
Starting point is 01:36:06 oh hit me with that shit bagel i just saw that sorry go hit me with that shit bagel i mean go ahead jess steve you did not get the goaltender correct in uh the world championships the 2024 four world championships do you want to take a second guess Bennington Hofer I swear it's a guy who used to play for the Devils I said John Gillies not Blackwood who's the other guy
Starting point is 01:36:34 Wedgwood no it wasn't Wedgwood it wasn't Akira Schmidt your brain never just button mash the wrong answer and you're like get out someone else I don't know you want to take another guess at devil's goaltenders,
Starting point is 01:36:50 you're right there. It's just about saying the right devil's goaltender. No, Jake Allen would have been the starter. Son of a gun! I know, I'm going to be mad when you say it.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Nick Dawes. Damn! Nico Dawes. Isn't it Nico? Nicholas is his full name. Oh, I thought it goes by Nico, though. Okay, well.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I don't care. Oh, okay. I think the answer is Dawes. Dawes. I think the answer is Nicholas Dawes. In the 2020 World Championships, if we want to pull up the goaltender stats, we'll see that Jordan Bennington in eight games finished with an 8.85, good enough for the 11th worst, 11th best, I guess,
Starting point is 01:37:37 11th best save percentage of the tournament. Best Canadian goalie, though. He finished just ahead of Jackson Whistle of Great Britain. Ben Bones He beat him too Of Great Britain Behind the great John Murray of Poland Harry Sateri
Starting point is 01:37:58 I'm sure John Murray No way Harry Sateri Get out of town Henrik Hockiland I love that Chris Lepkis is there I love that Oh my god dude
Starting point is 01:38:13 Lucas Dostal number two yeah yeah no no one could top leonardo genoni who led the tourney in safe percentage uh yeah they beat canada in the exodus in semi-finals yeah because that was where lessons were learned by tavaris remember that quote oh yeah was that this this turn yeah it was the 2020 remember tavaris went because they said if you go you're going to be on team canada and then they didn't yeah yeah here who's team pull that back up team poland's goalie here let me hopefully i get the pronunciation right john murray yeah yeah oh i'm sure i'm sure there's some anastasia that plays into that for sure oh yeah yeah elvis merlink did not have a good tourney dead last uh he
Starting point is 01:39:00 eventually i think got replaced because there's two latvian chris got it baby chris there bittington finish behind grubauer bro like oh my god all right but he was there so he got the start for team canada on the fortnite so okay so the rule that making the team will be helped by attending this tournament helped binnington but not john tavaris would you just just making sure okay so a lot of people like saying oh this guy should have been there that guy should have been there you got to remove somebody who are you putting on who are you taking off the team to put john Tavares there uh I mean I'm not I'm just being sour about it also Sam Bennett but there are other players like come on Shifley should be on this team Shifley a hundred percent yeah I'm not I'm
Starting point is 01:39:48 not gonna you know crusade for Tavares here like it should be Shifley I mean what is he third in the NHL in goals or something like that he's like some of the best players in the world Drew sent me something like it's not just at the nhl level he sent me michael misa's stats eligible for the draft this year he's he's got 50 goals in the ohl and 50 something i think he's got 106 points did not make team canada yeah no uh all of those guys should be fired all of them and i remember that whoever that exec was was like well it was on me it was on me like if you want to blame someone blame me okay i do blame you fucking hand in your resignation you don't know hockey get out he's he's still in charge of course he is he's the one who put the four nations team together like
Starting point is 01:40:33 he's still like oh awesome charge of hockey canada overseeing everything guy stinks yeah not great um yeah mark shifley it goes dry side oh william neilander mark shifley in terms of goals scored this season in the nhl good lord i don't know why he's not on the team um i got tagged in this by Dez Obscure on Blue Sky because we have a new tradition of going through how to pronounce guys' names.
Starting point is 01:41:00 And we did Sweden last episode, so here is Finland. Let's go. Oh, yeah. Rikko Rantanen. That was Kapo Kako or run that back one time. He like coughed it.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yeah. Dikko Räntänen, Kaapo Kakko, Kaapo Kakko, Kaapo Kakko. Next up is Uka Pekkalukkonen, Kaapo Kakko, Uka Pekkalukkonen, Eetu Luosternet, Juuse Saros, Anton Mundell, Uka Pekkalukkonen, Ulla, Kevin Lankinen, Urho Vaakanainen. make sure you get it right when they put him in again i was like wait they're doing a bit unless they you know they probably put him on there three times because not enough guys answered it and they were like we gotta orbit as he has three names oh there you go steve um i thought But you see, let's run.
Starting point is 01:42:17 You saw Valamaki. Valamaki. You saw Valamaki. You saw Valamaki. Valamaki. Is one we don't often get correct. Yeah, we say Valamaki. Well, that's how it is spelled, though.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Like with the, I don't know what you call that above the A. Adam, is that an umlaut? I think that's an umlaut, yeah. Like you see on Lauenbrau. Beer. Is that not how you? Or Motley Crue. Did he, is he screwing with us?
Starting point is 01:42:40 Is he saying it the North Americanized way? I don't think he's saying his name incorrectly. That's why I love Finnish and Swedish, because they sort of dance. It's like a slingshot. They pull on the vowel, and they just let it go. No, they're dancing. Yeah. Earl one more time.
Starting point is 01:43:06 We never do the extra A in there. We always say Vakanainen. So he does the double A, which is the A that I thought was the umlaut. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, Valamaki doesn't have the double A. Right. So you wouldn't do it like how you do Vakanainen.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Because they really pronounce that. Yeah, yeah. We never say that extra A. We always say Vakanainen. Joke's on you, Finland. We're not smart enough for this to help. We're dumb. As I ask at the end of all of these,
Starting point is 01:43:40 will this change your pronunciation of these names? No. If I go, oh, what a play from Velimeki. Everyone's going to be like, what the fuck? Steve, you're an asshole. Yeah, stop. Stop. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:43:55 That's what I'm going to say. Huge fan. I'm going to be doing that the entire way home into the windshield. Uka baka luka. The other thing I wanted to bring to the table for the press conference from a member on discord who wants us to talk about jerseys because we had a really good alt jersey special night jersey from the providence bruins oh cool
Starting point is 01:44:25 they went with a teenage mutant ninja turtles theme jersey right what do you guys think this This is from General Dr. God Ninja Meech Bear on Discord. Kind of looks like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the D1 Mighty Ducks movie. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. It's sick. Well done.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Damn. That's hot. Okay. The captain and all the assistants should have had headbands on their helmets. A blue one. Oh, I like that. An orange one. A red one.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Kind of like the Red Wings. Purple one. With the wings on the side. I love that. Dude, that's sick. The cool thing about these lower levels when they do these themed jerseys is that they actually wear them during the games. And it's not like the NHL when they used to do themed jerseys on the ice where you wear it and warm up and then you throw it away. No, they actually play with them, which is so cool.
Starting point is 01:45:22 And they don't have to get over themselves. They just do it. This is silly. Look how ridiculous we look. yeah i'm gonna wear a freaking bear with a ninja turtle bandana and it's gonna be fine i'm gonna play just as hard as i usually yeah it doesn't have any effect because it's just a piece of clothing yeah yeah love that anyways fun stuff from uh the providence bruins there very cool the state of massachusetts did something cool providence no rhode island i don't know
Starting point is 01:45:54 providence rhode island rhode island yeah shout out rhode island uh maybe there's one in both providence no i assume it's rhode island it's rhode island yeah all right yeah you get out of massachusetts you still owe us something yeah yeah yeah step it up step your fucking game up guys yeah step it up massachusetts um adam do you want to mention that we have a show oh yeah alibi roadhouse i uh we mentioned it all weekend during the streams we'll mention it off the top of the show tomorrow but we have a london show uh i have people in the chat saying i'm taking a the train up from detroit i was like i didn't even know you could take a train from detroit all the way up to london me neither uh but uh you can do it and uh they are known for
Starting point is 01:46:33 the best wings in london uh we are gonna go right before it's there's a toronto colorado game that night but we're gonna do doors at five show at six you can hang around afterwards obviously they've got golden tea golf which is one of my i love golden tea uh a couple of pool tables that uh oh it's like a golf video game where you actually like play 18 holes and there's like a golf ball and you roll it back for your backswing and then you whoosh you push forward and it's like it's it's cool man it's oh man i love here's here's if i had time and i don't uh beers and golden tea golf with two or three other people is a good way to spend an afternoon and it's been a long time since i've done it but yeah that is going to be a uh a wicked show and
Starting point is 01:47:16 the tickets are available you can see it in the description for this video uh or for the audio sections um 20 bucks uh and it's going to be our first sort of show in london since like hockey night in cinema way back in the day 16 17 it's been a long time yeah so it'll be fun i like it big shout out to the alibi roadhouse family owned and operated since 1988 that's how old we are steve yep yay yay i don't like it all right show tomorrow we're gonna do some blue jays we're gonna do some leafs practice updates what did alex steves do who knows probably scored some goals No, no, put him on the fourth line. S-E-P
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