The Steve Dangle Podcast - Anonymous | September 27, 2024

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

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so when was the last time you had a gander at jesse blake's package oh man oh no this isn't a manscaped ad no i just wonder when was the last time you saw jesse's package when was it i mean you don't really look at it it looks at you right right well jesse said i need to start the show with my package and i said okay well you have to we all have to look at jesse blake's package together what is it jesse a listener by the name of eric williams is a comic book collector and eric has the ability to obtain the most rare items because it's what he does for his for his hobby right so eric sent us a package to the sdpn studios thank you eric it's very nice and i just i think adam should do the honors

since adam's so skeptical about eric's no i was i was told it was your package now it's eric's package that he sent to us i think it's a yellow sweater a yellow sweater yeah adam eric was able to obtain the most rare item in the universe in the entire universe why don't you open it my god and tell the audience no what we received people oh my god so this he was able to track down the may 2016 edition of hello canada which happens to be the edition where adam wilde was named one of canada's most beautiful people so here's the problem it's a little taped down is this from one of the vip episodes i can't no no we started one of the regular shows with it it was a very vip conversation but it happened

off the top of uh one of our shows a few days ago oh my god and adam said in in our conversation that he doesn't own a copy he was embarrassed by it and he never kept a copy of it so it doesn't make sense ultimately yeah but i it's a good keepsake to have yes and please don't ever get rid of it i'm gonna maybe we'll have to we'll frame it we'll put it in the office so i know you don't go home and throw it out okay well i would never throw it out here because i don't want to no you don't want to damage it at all it's actually an incredible shape but i know i'm in here adam doesn't want to damage it yeah or i have tuberculosis open it all right okay all right here we go here we go do you know what page it's on no you should i don't think you've ever read it

no i don't think i ever i don't even know if i ever held a copy uh okay beautiful people beautiful people um look look in the glossary under like the weekend ryan reynolds ryan gosling justin justin trudeau sophie trudeau let's get to adam wilde relo let's get to the good ones oh gosh you guys are you okay yeah i'm just do you want the day off uh you guys keep talking and i'll find this you want me to do it no no i'll find it okay well jesse it's not like it's easy there's 50 of them no no you steve you steve you go what do you got on a scale of one to hot yeah how do we how do we think uh adam's uh profile is going to be in this magazine definitely hot he's named one of canada's hottest people obviously come on guys tap dance a little bit

oh no this is much more fun watching you try and find this here we go do you think nick robertson did it on purpose um let's let's talk about that i'm on the side if you did all right here's my co-host tanya kim okay see makes sense beautiful she's in the middle there in the leather jumpsuit oh thank you i was like complete sense like okay she belongs in this magazine okay sure yeah okay now remember this is 10 years ago i cannot believe someone found this is unbelievable um and i'm just gonna find oh i thought you were gonna turn the page and you were there no not yet yeah no jonathan bernier sophie gregoire trudeau justin trudeau oh good they put me right next to like yeah there i am yeah finally that was excruciating that was actually

terrible that was awful talking about here guys okay here we go there's adam wilde read what the description says description says um into the microphone of toronto age 28 can be heard on the radio station kiss 92.5 and tv's rogers your world this week entertainment city and breakfast television confidence comes down to how you eat how at ease you are in a situation so i guess i'm confident is that a quote from you apparently oh my god hold on hold on what did you give to Hello, Canada. What quote did you say? Can I read it so that people can hear it?

Let Steve do it. You can barely talk. Sound like me. Hometown, Toronto. Age, 28. Multimedia. He can be heard on radio station KISS 92.5. What?

I'm doing it, but better. And seen on TV's Rogers Your World this week. Entertainment City and Breakfast Television. Casual wear. Confidence comes down to how at ease you are in a situation. so i guess i'm most confident on a sunday morning drinking coffee in my pajamas fresh cut nothing beats the feeling of putting on a brand new suit yeah adam nothing beats the feeling of how about bacon i don't know you said this i don't think i did you did there's no if this was a bachelor

bio i'd be like get him off the show yeah yeah it's rough fresh cut oh no we just did that rock on adam's go-to concert companion is his mom tv and radio star maryland that is actually true that is true no you're missing you're missing a one quote from adam oh dear the closest thing i can compare celebrity reporting to is going on a first date that's from adam wilde that's also true so you did these are your quotes that i don't think i said nothing compares to putting on a fresh suit i don't i don't know oh well my clothes for for tv were borrowed so yeah but you're in a suit no i never was i was wearing jeans the picture is literally of you in a suit i know it's a suit jacket i still was wearing jeans i remember that jacket too but yeah that's

what i used to look like yeah yeah anyway look like like it's just well that's crazy what fine how do you even locate something i don't know you got to be like in eric's world where you're a comic book collector you almost tore it i almost did right jesse i put it down dad take it do we we gotta frame like the page i guess i think we can frame the page they can yeah so we gotta flatten it we'll damage it a little bit like who cares it's about the page right yes yeah yeah maybe we'll maybe we'll take out the cover or we'll take out like the staples and we'll do like the cover although they'll do that at the framing place yeah not us yeah yeah no i wouldn't do the uh the cover and the page but that'll be cool we'll hang that in the office thank you so

hilarious that is incredible like how do you track down something like that what a fine it's unbelievable uh this person may or may not have reached out to me on instagram and i was like please send that to us immediately oh my god that's so funny that's so funny i guess two people collect like hello canada magazines i don't know that's weird right maybe they're huge adam wild fans or jay baruchel fans he was right next to you it could be now i wanted to start the show with this video i'm not sure if you uh if you've seen it i'm going to send this to jesse this is the markham royals and before steve asks because he does this every time even though i vet it yes we can use it on youtube steve it's a social media sometimes you don't vet it i do vet it

no just don't play it don't play it with any audio okay all right everyone we were like hey does that have any music in it and then the first note was a piano oh okay i was like three episodes to go adam yeah probably royalty free but anyway when has adam ever been wrong aside from the times he's been wrong so watch this now remember steve getting nailed at hockey yes he was blindsided this is a markham royals captain stepping out on the ice for the first time and i'm he's excited he's ready to go he's a young man in the prime of his life press play jess get in there kid get in there and he absolutely clobbers one of his teammates man and man that should be uh like i would send that to teams like as part of my like highlight package absolutely he so he steps

onto the ice he does not dude his the teammate that runs into him at like full speed i would say at least half speed does not affect him at all it's just shoulder into the chest and he's dead yeah yeah i like it you can see why this guy's captain he's also like half a foot taller he's huge those uh shades of uh that's a vladdy konstantinov hit that's a that's a big monster yeah throwback but uh man he flattens some of the flyers heck of a promo video the other thing i wanted to bring up before we get into you know news and notes around the league and the leafs and everything uh jesse i'll just say another thing there um oakland played their last game at what was oakland alameda county stadium has been there since i believe 1968 stadium is falling

apart there are a ton of great tiktoks from people that actually work there that are like here's what i love about the stadium and the stadium is just a shithole now right it was not well kept it's too bad i posted a video and someone's like looks like a great place to bring your kids to a ball yeah honestly and there were people like ripping seats out of the stadium and the seats were all rusted underneath like it really does kind of show like man we're a little spoiled here in toronto with our sports well they also just i mean they've they abandoned it yes yeah for you while using it yeah so uh what was weird about the goodbye video was the abruzzese toronto maple leafs justin bieber video or um jersey that showed up uh why are you wearing

an abrazizi jersey it's it's the black leafs jersey 26 abrazizi that's some leaf fans right now are like who's that why are you simply sharing a video of a guy wearing a leafs jersey with his name on the back no nick abrazizi has played 11 nhl games for the toronto maple and he is on their b squad this morning adam do you know our special connection to nick abruzzese uh other than the fact that every time we say his name a bunch of people reach out it's abruzzese and he's like no it's abruzzese well there's there's also abruzzese some people say oh yeah yeah well and i'm sure i'm sure everyone called him bates batalia when he was a leaf right yeah let's calm down everyone no our connection is you and i were in the building for his first and so far only nhl

goal really yes in that shitty game 82 against boston where no one played no one was in the lineup basically and he scored um uh so that's so incredibly random it's random it's almost as random as remember we used to talk about uh rough rider fans saskatchewan rough rider fans yes and how you could find them literally anywhere great wall of china yeah and they're they got the rough riders gear on this is years and years ago that that felt like that to me i just don't know why you're wearing a leaf jersey to the oakland game i uh i i gotta i'm sure that guy like he must have heard an episode of the show at least once like if you're him and you wore that please reach out oh i was definitely like man that's a fan that's a fan he must like if you're a leaf fan you've

at least heard of it yeah what's with that if i see someone being difficult about a jersey my instinct is they listen well no it's not that's not what i'm saying but i'm like like leaf fandom as much as it's huge it's sort of a small town everybody knows everybody and so it's like hey if if you know this person even if you know this person i would love to know i'd love to have them on and figure out why the hell they were wearing it um so it anyway yeah what's the what's the context here with the oakland a's and wearing a leafs jersey yeah and then i look it up because i'm like i bet abrazizi's from oakland and this is a relative and he's from uh new york okay so guess not like when i went and saw a tampa bay game against nashville in like 2017 and somebody

was wearing a dave steckle leafsters hell yeah i'm like you have to be related to dave steckle who's gonna have dave steckle leafsters there was a leafs fan in sweden when i was there last year wearing a leafs dennis malkin jersey and i was just like what's real relative what is up with that and he's like no i'm just i'm a big dennis malkin fan so he's just a big dennis malkin fan good for malkin hive the malkin hive rise up i found the leader i found the queen bee so last night the least won their first game of the preseason nobody cares about the score but but there was one storyline uh nick robertson the best of times and the blirst of times game winning goal that's what everyone was talking about yes yes but he also took out a member of

the core four and as of this morning uh it means matthews uh nylander and tavaris are not skating well so or have light injuries already leafs pr um sent out a tweet um this morning listing injuries and they didn't list willie no they didn't and and and berube did say he would be okay yeah willie seems like he's fine they're they're being extra cautious he makes 11 and a half million he's one of their best players and he missed playoff games why boys and girls migraines right so they want to make sure he doesn't get those but they they they listed a few injuries yarn croak lower body alex steves lower body john tavaris lower body um the following players will not i'm reading it in reverse order for some stupid reason it's friday um they're they're

not skating today because they have day-to-day injuries matthews was on the ice yeah um and Dakota Mermis is actually undergoing surgery for his jaw. He's listed as week to week. That sucks. The jaw is a very long and shitty recovery. And that's a guy who kind of like has a somewhat okay chance of playing games at least this season. I'm not worried. I'm not worried.

If he was listed and they said, oh, he's, you know, it's a terrible word, terrifying word, especially this time of year. reevaluation oh you never want to hear it re-evaluated he's got to get re-evaluated oh no no i don't want to hear that everybody's wondering too like you know how's this all gonna fit and at least you're gonna have to make a change before the end of pre-season to fit everybody and sign patch ready or whatever with yarn croak not skating for now three or four days i don't know that they're gonna have to figure that out for a while it seems like he might actually be hurt well so it's i was talking about this about a month ago a few weeks ago hey they actually have cap space going into the season and they're going to be able to accrue it

every passing day it appears that will not be the plan um i'm fairly confident they're going to ltir are um uh connor doer um and it looks like that could be a possibility with yarn croak although he's listed as day-to-day and the season doesn't begin for another two weeks i have no idea what they're doing no idea cap wise like i it feels like they're like i i think lorenz is going to be a leaf he looked good i liked him i love that player like for the role um i think patch ready is going to be a leaf on account of that's what everyone is saying so you know i i think it was cj was saying it'll be sort of like the uh who was it zach aston reese deal where he signed for a very weird amount of money and the reason was to maximize their ltir i think he got him down to

zero dollars or something like that um i think that's what they're gonna try to finagle with these guys even then i still don't understand like kiprios yesterday was like yeah pat ready he's gonna get like one mil 1.1 1.2 and i'm like where with no i think how if he was generalizing if you watch the whole conversation he was kind of just generalizing on like the same thing that everybody's been saying and that whatever's left of the salary cap is just like hey this is the money that's left this is what it's gonna get like it's not that he was saying oh it's gonna be 900 or 1.1 it was just like hey whatever million dollar left mill 1.1 left that's what he's gonna get you know so it's not that specific where he's talking about the salary cap like he's a

capologist and that sort of yeah the context i still like it's it's been enjoyable to watch um and pay attention to um i like this like i i feel like in previous years it's been obvious what they were going to do like painfully like you could telegraph what leaves management was going to do now i'm sitting here like i don't know who's going to be in the lineup that's what i was saying before cam i was excited for that it's no it's definitely fun two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer

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You know, the same way you can skip an ad. i get it i'm siaya and i live in ice cove i've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way i planned and today i'm still figuring it out somehow things usually get worse before they get better apparently that's how i roll so bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride don't miss the new season of north of north starting september 8th on cbc gem um are we moving quickly past nick robertson doing that okay okay we went a lot of no and and i think i think obviously we'll start we'll work backwards here the steel and the goal fantastic if that is thank you jesse exactly if that's the only highlight from nick robertson

last night you're like damn it that man just made the team that's exactly the kind of stuff berube wants from him stick work on the guy turn the puck over and and nick has one of the best shots on the team preseason's about adjustment to speed right and that looked like a player um who could keep up right taking advantage of a player who wasn't at very least in that moment um i thought it was it was strange i don't know which habs defenseman it was baron um they were so casual with it but nick is never going to be casual about everything he plays every game like it might be his last because it genuinely might be um whether the team is gonna trade him or he just decides to skate brain first into a hit again like he just seems to get creamed every

every every time but he always gets back up and he always tries his best and he has this funny looking shot like it's so weird he's just got one of those shots where i'm like i don't understand how this is good but goalies can't keep track of it they can't keep up to it and i think uh the difficulty he's had um is finding room for himself well if he creates a scenario for himself where he has a breakaway that goalie's in trouble right that goalie's in very big trouble And with that play, I think he did good things for his opportunity to make this team. I'm going to go as far to say last night was, in the eyes of the Leafs organization, good for him. I know Leaf fans do not feel that way today.

And I think I'm about to get into an argument with my friends. i think we all need to get over it okay jesse in a game where nothing matters and not everybody's going 100 because it's an exhibition game there are actually no points on the line when you're a guy fighting for a lineup spot your job is to be the guy going 100 and it was engstrom who he stole the puck from uh when you're back there in the offensive zone and you have that opportunity to make a play that's just simply an effort play and stealing the puck and turning around and scoring. That's what you want to see out of a player

who's fighting for a lineup spot. It was the perfect play for a guy who needs those sorts of play to make the lineup. So I agree with you that it was a great night for Nick in the end of it all, that he was able to come up and make that play. But the one thing about Nick Robertson that's the difficult thing about him

is that he's been good offensively. We know he is good on the offensive end. we know that we can get 14 goals out of him and he's going to be one of the highest goals per 60. You pointed that out where it's like isolate for goals per 60 is going to be at the top there. And I think he's number three on the team last season or number two behind Austin.

It's like Austin Robertson McMahon. Yeah. Because McMahon had that hot start. So the guy who's second on the team in goals per 60, we know he did. He can do that at the NHL level. It's about the other stuff. And the other stuff includes not making a boneheaded decision,

like pushing their top one of the top players on the team in the butt and causing him to hit somebody's knee in chin you know like just terrifyingly similar to tavaris perry i want to say in the end it's a good night for nick and i agree with that but it's also how much did you move the needle it couldn't have moved that much because the other parts of the game are what we want you to fix we want you to be not not fast feet everywhere i want you to do a smarter hockey sense yeah you know all of those things are what Nick Robertson needs to do to get in the lineup regularly and last night he showed the part of the game that he's good at which is like play to your strengths you know so we got to also see more from Nick well and and part of so when it gets to

the Nylander thing can we pull that up do we have can we so this is Robertson giving Nylander a push this happens all the time in the NHL the issue is that I don't think he told him he was going to do that nylander has no idea this is coming or if the situation warranted it because it can also be nick move your feet that was the argument nick caprios is making at intermission it's nick slows down and his feet stop moving so that he can boost nylander but if you're the guy fighting for the lineup get in there and move your feet and get into the zone also like i'm not that screenshot's terrible because lost in this conversation is that stick is in a very under he basically puts it between neil andrews but that's a credit card swipe right there yes yes yes and

so it's the reason neil andrew goes down is because he was diving in a pre-season game okay no i'm kidding sorry i was just doing an impression of the worst people in the world uh the the placement of the stick was too low um and that's why he falls and i don't think nylander needs your help no he's pretty no that's the thing nylander's quicker than you he's yeah he's quicker than almost everybody like i i look at this and and he's fine was a kipper call that a bush league play and that's what pre-seasons for bush league plays to me this is nick robertson doing what steve mentioned earlier which is he he tries so hard sometimes it's almost too hard and this is and i don't i'm not i don't want to victimize the guy but you could tell this guy

fucking wants it so bad i'm gonna i'm i'm gonna turn the heat down on on robertson because i could go full hellfire and brimstone no i don't think you can we all know it's stupid sure it's stupid he shouldn't have done it yeah and dangerous and would i have different feelings about it if neil andrew was hurt long term you bet i probably would would it change the logic that nick used heading into the play no is that fair also no what am i human yes is the logic he used going into the play the good logic is i'm going to do one percent better like i'm going to do whatever i can do i'm gonna help william nylander do something good and like what if this boost helps willie get the puck and it leads to offense maddie's laughing but like

this i'm not buying what you're selling this is no but you jesse there's nothing at stake for you like this guy badly badly wants to play in the nhl and ask for a trade and he signed his contract and he's here and he's trying to do everything he's still fighting for his life to make the team because they went out and they got guys like patch ready and lorenz and i barely had a spot on this team without those guys and now they're here and he adam nailed it he's doing way too much and since neil andrews okay i think it's water under the bridge and it's a good teachable moment hey nick no one does that relax no one should ever do that i don't i don't even know about relax but like that's not gonna get you on the team what's gonna get you on the team

is what you did later in the game and that is where i felt okay we're getting somewhere because what he could have done was folded and what he did do was he went out and he made a great play and perube put him out if i'm not mistaken next shift that is a coach showing hey i know you can do this i know you can do better because if you're perube in that situation you got to take him aside and say listen you got about three seconds to feel bad about that and you got to move on yes and short memory short memory you'll deal with it after the game you got to get out there and you got to earn a spot and what he did i thought you know when we started with the great play that he made there's a reason for that because that is the lasting memory you should

have from this obviously this was silly this is dumb and willie's okay and we're okay so you don't need to do that simplify the game jesse mentioned it when you're talking about what kept him out of the lineup you know sheldon keith scratching him for game seven last year was completely unforgivable i would fire sheldon keith just based on that but he was zeros across the board but when you're looking okay he's zeros across the board yeah but you can't fucking score in the series you're going to take a scoring threat out okay fine great yeah that makes a ton of sense great work good job everybody fair enough my point is this guy can put it in the net yeah if this guy does simple shit where he's not dicking around with the puck at the blue line like he did last

year uh where he's not making cross ice passes through the neutral zone if you keep it simplify your game on the defensive zone no one needs you to be cali on croak nobody needs you to be john tavaris in the defensive zone all we need is for you to be simple get work on your zone exits and we'll get you in a spot where you can get open and shoot he's going to score 25 goals this year if he plays and i think all of that is why the game itself is like a net even for nick because he he didn't show any improvement for last year but he didn't take a step back you know he showed he could score but he shows that he's still doing boneheaded stuff well then there's the argument that last year he was a good player you know like last year offensively and like he should be in the

lineup anyway he should be on pace for 15 20 goals should be on pace for like 40 ish points yeah but for under a million bucks there's other there's other parts of the game than nick just yes yes and that's the part he struggles with and this showed that he's still where he was last year and if the idea for nick to get an improvement is to get in the lineup is to improve he's right where he is yeah this is i think maybe it's it's jitters left over from the key fair yeah i think having a lot of sports having i don't i don't have time for you to figure out your jitters that's fair like i don't i don't how much leash you given this pro athlete to figure out the rest of the game having not watched every single nick robertson game my

guess is he's never done this before and my guess is he'll never do this again yeah like i don't look at this as a bad habit he needs to get out of his game you know what i mean no it's not being constantly out of position that's bad yeah it's not the specific play it's the what this play represents about the rest of his game i understand it's not the hey he does this all the time he pokes guys in the butt and makes them go down and swipes them in between directly in the gooch it's about his hockey sense and this is an example of that and that is rest of the game this is just an example of what he does outside of score by the way i will i will also say that willie did join the ice late in practice today which is not abnormal for him yeah i don't think he needs to

he takes the subway in toronto yeah he said uh he said at the amazon thing that waking up early is not his best skill and same freaking same um so yeah it doesn't shock me that he was late going into the game i thought this was important too we got to talk about d lander because this whole shift to center is a is a topic of conversation and berube said in in my opinion he's been better and better i watch him in practice situational stuff coming in our zone it's all about moving his feet without the puck and that was going into the game yes and he does coast sometimes right so now that you're a center you really can't anymore i think he's got the maturity now that he knows that how do you think you know accepting what happened with robertson last night how do you

think it's going well it's going back to uh what we talked about with neil andrew coasting because of that he's one of the most fun iso cams in the league like you know how there's a goal and they have a cam on one player and they'll go back 15 seconds before the goal and he's doing the pierre luke dubois in winnipeg special just or in columbus special just we nothing nothing nothing and like he's just bad as hell and his acceleration no one can keep up of them he's so ridiculous um it's pre-season it's difficult to glean too much but um you know what we haven't seen is like a huge glut of stupid decisions or blown assignments where you're like oh he can't do this yeah now the speed is gonna jump up and the games are gonna start to count

and he is gonna make those mistakes and he is gonna blow it and he might even cost you a game or two right uh or at very least a goal or two and it's going to make people upset and people are going to react and say this is why he can't do it and it's on Craig Berube and the Leafs organization to have patience and give it an honest shot um I have been adamant all summer long I don't think this team can enter the season with the core four again I don't they're doing it so it's crazy out of your mind nuts to go into the season with the core four in the exact same configuration which is neil andrew marner on the wings matthews and tavaris top two centers away we go you find two guys to play the left you can't do it again um this is as close to fundamental

changes we're going to get with the leafs and if it doesn't work i don't think this team can simply go well then we'll just put tavaris back there no no they're gonna have to make a move i mean they they can no it's good listen they can't i think this is gonna work a bit but like i think i think heading into the playoffs barring other large injuries your priority has to be all right we need to get the best center available right right jesse any thoughts on willie at center yeah yeah no i think i think steve nailed it and that a at least always do at least it's something different you know you look at you look at the roster and how they've just leaned even heavier into the core four idea and that like okay you got mitch at 10.9 and then from there from the

forward group it goes to domey at 3.7 yeah like that's that's insane the way the cap is structured for them did you hear uh cj on uh cj show i think what he said yesterday he says uh there's a greater than zero chance that mitch a mitch extension gets done before the season begins yeah yeah that makes sense certainly feeling warm in that well i don't recall anyone saying that previously i was i every now and then i listen to that and i go we're gonna go back what sorry what and he i was screwing around with the blue room switching up some things but i i i couldn't believe he said that because i hadn't really heard a whisper in that direction what did you guys think of the london knights line of cow and martyr domey that was fine um you know they

it's difficult i i watching pre-season games is a skill um justin bourne i think is very good at it and he did that for sports net so i think it was the the second game where robertson is on the top power play because no one's in the lineup and he gets a really good shot and he misses and fans are like oh he missed and born doesn't get caught up in that he goes he was in good position he's got a good shot that's a clean look and that's a look he'll score from yeah um easton cowan how differently would we be talking about him if that really good scoring chance he had where marner was the screen in front if that had just gone in yeah we'd be like oh well this guy might make the team i thought it was the best i've seen easton cowan look

is that enough i don't think so this is like i think they're too much of a glut leaf fans are bored we we've talked about this um they're a lot of them are just not excited not as excited about this team and this season as they wish they were i think a lot of people are trying to talk themselves into it and they're too smart um you know people have been hurt too many times they lost in the first round again and then they didn't really do anything um you know tanf was a good signing i'm sorry oliver egman larson had an 87 expected to go for last night oh man that's so he might be the greatest free agent signing the least i've ever made like my brain will not process that he's 95 i know it's crazy every time he's on the ice i'm

like who's that i know every time next shift who's that i i disagree with you i do think they did more stuff than you're giving them credit for no no they did more stuff is it enough i think they did more stuff in there in the ways that they i actually think you're wrong on that and i'll and i'll i'll i'll stop you there on that because i think the tanf signing is far more valuable than people are giving it credit for i i think that i agree i think ryan o'reilly was right when he said we got to de-emphasize the core four and what the leafs did yes they kept the core four yes they'll probably continue to keep them you got tanf who cares about the term it's about winning now you got oel you needed puck movement he played really well and here's a guy that just won the

stanley cup that's great yep and and i want to i want to do a little particular spotlight anthony stallers um that's a good goalie man holy smokes is he ever yeah big fan and i and i think when you when you look at what the issues were with the team last year um yes scoring in the postseason was a problem you were also missing matthews and nylander for a good chunk of that series and i would say this is why the april jar it's got to be this big yeah 100 it's it's what i would say though what was the problem in october well samson off there you go and so that is a nice problem not to have yes you got two guys who you know are objectively better than samson off samsonov at his best is a tantalizing goaltender that was the problem heading into last season

there wasn't any real reason to think samsonov would stink right right and then he was awful yeah it's awful so i look at i look at the stallers thing and i'm like listen think about the difference that that can make the fact that you have a goalie that can actually stop pucks regularly we did not have that in october we did not have that in march we did not have that in april he's big athletic calm really like him what's not to like you know what else i like he's healthy that's the other problem with the other goal oh you shut your mouth you shut your mouth joe wall and and true living said there's still three preseason games left you shut your mouth you're right you gotta have you gotta have a healthy goalie too yes and joe wall i think is

the real deal you gotta stay healthy what is it and for the rest of the preseason maybe you switch those guys in for half a game give the rest of it to matt murray and hill the beast because you don't really like what are you really aiming to get out of this i don't i don't need some guy in the ahl like the reason tavaris has got a lower body injury is because posada caught him and was it a harder than you need to hit hit in the preseason sure but posada is trying to earn a job no you gotta you gotta look at it jorge masvidal it was super necessary i'm on the ice i'm on the ice or you yeah 100 fresh meat i just feel like you know like let's let's preserve a good thing we got three of the four already battling some injuries uh let's not push our

luck goalies look good maybe a little bit more i need to see a little more wall and let hilda be and matt murray duke it out for third string uh i think we're gonna start seeing full games yeah only three left right has anyone no one's played a full game yet no i don't think no so you'll probably get a solars one probably get a wool one maybe one where they split and this is where i think they've made big changes is that last year's team you had it was crazy what a sequence of events domi was cold coming out of the gate bertuzzi was non like a non-player he was horrible he was terrible non-option yeah uh samson off was brutal brutal and clingberg was not good either clingberg like it was sheltered tyler bertuzzi like how bad clingberg

was that's made people not care about how bad bertuzzi was so if you can have average career average performances from all of these guys i think it's a better team no one is arguing the least are bad no one i think they're better i also think they're better and this is again the problem you gotta i don't know how you get this fan base jacked about this team without tricking them okay no i'm serious like like uh they're nearly the same and even if they weren't nearly the same no one's going to believe that they're different until the end of the first round and whether or not the leafs are still playing april jar they could do they could go well they could go win a division i think that'd be cool

i think that'd be get people interested that'd be cool no like the atlantic boston doesn't have boston doesn't have swayman if florida's tired if tampa's old like i don't know there's lots there's there's no reason the leaf shouldn't at least compete for it you know there you go adam like we outside of the individual races can matthews win another uh rocket or you know maybe even challenge for mvp stuff like that yeah win the division win the league go win the league yeah go win the president's trophy yeah why not 100 try it go set some records regular season records that's what we're after yeah the d pairing from last night looked like they'll be the d pairing to start opening day right can you run them through it was riley tanev oel mccabe ben

wall lilligran um i don't see any changes there yeah baruba's not screwing around eh what do you mean well it's just uh less than well now we're halfway through but he began game three out of six like here's what it is i think you got to give him a run right you got to try him at least one time and i guess this was the game well at this point it's i don't think it's about um like yeah it's about building chemistry for sure but it's it's less about all right let's see who's going to make the team and it's more about let's evaluate is this good enough in the preseason because it's not out of the realm of possibility baruba just goes nah i don't like it and they got to make a move uh or someone becomes available on waivers right like

it's he just got here notably uh but guys are going to start getting waived and berube's got to know by the time that starts happening whether or not he kind of likes this group and i think the d is i think it was good enough i don't think there's any need any changes like i don't think you bring in any waiver guys i think it's good um simone benoit open ankle blocking a shot in the final seconds of a preseason game it was like never change never change benny in intense sky you nut um notable yesterday too not having to do with the leafs unless you guys have more to add to the match patch or any turnover wasn't great not great yeah i feel like somebody at that age should know not to do that in your own end i mean passing it

across the ice and then leading directly to a goal that was that was a sequence that backed up justin bourne's uh skepticism about are we sure about this guy but i think we're sure about this guy but also can't make that play here's here's the difference uh if nick robertson makes that play we're like that's why he can't play yes patch ready uh who's had two achilles injuries but you know the name brand does a lot yes name brand does a lot um i mean if nick robertson had a two goal game like patch ready did we'd be like here he is you know and then he has the turnover he hasn't learned shit um you know name brand does a lot this is a former captain this is a multi-time 30 goal scorer i'm pretty sure multi-time 60 plus points you know the name

brand of max patch ready has been really really good hasn't been that way for a few years that's why he's here exactly if things had gone well if his health held up like he wouldn't be here least wouldn't be able to afford him he'd be somewhere else lighting it up um but he's here technically on a pto they keep saying wow he's got a contract where where it hasn't been signed you know what i mean if he's garbage for the next three games i'm not entirely convinced there's going to be a contract so um i mean it's preseason everyone's got stuff to work on um he can't do that again you don't get many more mistakes like that but i think like you're to your point like name brand means a lot you know that he knows he shouldn't

do that yeah you know it's not like a young guy where you got to teach him a lesson he knows yeah yeah but he didn't yeah robertson that's why i was worth you young idiot you young dumb stupid idiot yeah and then uh you know a young guy who's learning his way through the league we carve him like a thanksgiving turkey a 35 year old who's been in the nhl for hundreds of games does it and we're like ah but then he won't do it again the other side of like you know is he losing a step because once you get to a certain age then the conversation goes back to when you were a kid and it's like oh you might not have it anymore instead of you don't have it you might not have it anymore and we're not at that point with patch ready yet for sure but like there's always that

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better way than with a delicious Pret Organic Coffee, starting at just $1 all day, every day now until December 31st. You gotta try breakfast at participating a and w locations in ontario um i want to throw this at you so yesterday it was announced live nation is going to build a non-permanent concert venue at downsview park townsview park for those that don't know is a gigantic piece of land north of toronto it's up

where we actually play um steve's easter seals tournament with um the ark lindros uh easter hills kind of connection near scotiabank pond scotiabank pond and near york university there it's where they actually teach uh tomorrow's pilots how to fly oh because there's an airport there that's where the school is and it's a 520 acre site i have been to a concert there i was at it was called star stock rolling stones acdc guess who justin zimmer like uh about 20 years ago and it has from time to time hosted gigantic outdoor festivals but toronto really doesn't have a spot for that and the site will be redeveloped into housing eventually in the next couple of decades we're just not sure when so it's going to be the first massive open air stadium that we have had

since exhibition stadium which closed about 25 30 years ago and what's interesting here guys is for the hockey perspective and the sports perspective it got people instantly talking about an nfl team in toronto and really could we potentially have another site for an open air outdoor game 30 000 seats the rest will be standing so you could still have an outdoor stadium and you can also put um like what they've done with the cfl with uh with bemo field as they you know put um you know you just put more seats up you can just do that put bench seating in for one venue but right now by the way it's going to be called rogers stadium you bet that was the worst part of the whole announcement yeah rogers arena rogers place roger what's rogers stadium

rogers stadium rogers rogers center yeah there's a lot of it rogers rogers rogers what's the next one i don't know rogers building yeah they already have that place arena stadium stadium center yes yeah are the four big ones yes and the offices are rogers campus yes i don't know they're running out of names of places thanks that's all i'm saying that's all i'm saying i'm sure there's like a rogers auditorium somewhere too like i'm sure uh but what's going to be interesting is that it'll have 30 000 seats rest standing three-quarter stadium removable standard stage and so artists like you know like taylor swift she is doing five or six nights at rogers um center center in november somebody like her could come back next year or they're rolling stones

because they're getting older and they only do outdoor stadiums now they do football stadiums rather than doing like hockey rinks because they're they're coming towards the end of their careers and they're legendary artists when you have something like that um you know like there's the 65 000 capacity oceaga at jean drapeau espace uh in montreal good job um you know we didn't have that in toronto so i think this is going to be interesting i think we're going to see an outdoor game they're saying it's going to open next june so they announced it yesterday it'll open next june that's how it's not going to be built a plywood well that's how not permanent it is right but i think it could be they think it's going to be 12 to 15 performances a year

my bet is the oasis tour is going to be the first stop because they have announced toronto or they haven't announced but it's leaked that it'll be toronto and then after that i'm thinking it would be very very cool to get an outdoor game up there yes i agree um but i listen we need this we do need this we we need more cool things to do in the city we do um and it's on the subway line the the first thing i thought of was you won't catch me dead going to that venue without being paid to do it really fuck no why not fuck no as a suburbanite as someone who lives outside the city absolutely the fuck not location in the world it's the worst yeah fucking location on planet earth and this is gonna why a lot of people are not gonna understand this but but you know because

you you don't know the area but i'm sure if you live in a big city you have an area like this that place 50 000 people and you said they have a what subway subway what subway stop down they have a subway stop are you kidding me well that's getting up to downs you from the subway that's what that's what i would imagine they would do it's all it's literally impossible well i mean when you look at formula one or you look at uh formula one's done on an island in montreal there are prisoners two hours to leave there are prisoners in kingston penn that if you gave them the option of just staying put in kingston or being forced to ride that subway up and down all day would stay in prison 50 000 people no shot now i think no shot maddie it's gonna take you

two hours to get out of that fucking thing maddie mad no shot maddie you're down though right yeah i'd do it yeah of course you would maddie how old are you you're not in that temple anymore 24 there you go i'm a grown adult 24 man you know is it near a go train station maddie i got terrible news it is nowhere fucking near a go train station no no no getting up to townsview park go townsview park is that a bus station that's like one of the b line it is a b line but it is like if anything that's not on the lakeshore yeah does the b stand for bus that's not on lakeshore west is annoying to train or lakeshore west or east lakeshore line i will agree though that our urban planning system is in shambles getting around toronto is is fucking horrible

getting up to yorkdale shepherd west area what are you advocating for this getting to yorkdale via transit is is basically you know just a little south of of down to you on the other side of the 401 this is such a nice toronto talk but it's impossible no this play i think toronto has lost the privilege to make cool new places and uh to earn that privilege back has to come up with cool new transits to get to those places how about you do not get to build cool new places until this place is not the worst city to navigate in north america how about a tunnel underneath the 401 anything anything try anything that's what they're talking about yes try anything can we have a can we have subways can we have uh this well okay here's beer in

grocery stores oh they're fucking great i am dude i don't care until like they shut they shut a lane down on the dvp and like the economy of the country takes a hit like it's it's brutal it's brutal it's brutal it's brutal i know this has nothing to do with sports but there's my little rant my first second and third thought when i heard this wasn't oh cool a new thing it was you won't catch me dead unless i'm being paid to be there now i think there are a lot of people in north york in that area who are going to love this that's great because they're close to them they're close to it and i think that is if you're the toronto maple leafs if you're looking for an outdoor game here's a great way to reach out to your fans that it does take them two hours to get

to a game if they are even going yeah right yeah because that area of the great that part of the greater toronto area is fucking uh road warrior like it's driving in it is a is a nightmare i don't know what it is about west of young street where you just don't require a license to drive it's oh my god no you won't catch me dead now this i'm excited to go this isn't to say that i don't think you're ever gonna step foot in there i'm going to oasis you don't leave your house i'm going to oasis um absolutely you don't go to things so i don't know how you're gonna go go to things um jesse's all right yeah i don't know what you're talking about i'm going to oasis all right did you go to veldt i don't why would i go to veldt because it was held at downsview

no i'm not going i was trying to make is that i'm not gonna go rip fucking drugs and go to veldt like the point i'm trying to make is that this it's not like they didn't already do this over the course of the summer over a weekend like veldt is held at downsview over the course of three days and you're getting just as many people in there as you're getting um for this imaginary venue that's gonna be opening next year so they they have proof of concept that they can do this like veld is successful asterisk i would do it if i was wildly high if i was wildly high there's no there's no doubt that i think it'll be successful they'll do it it's just it's just not it's not great yeah no it's it like they don't have land in toronto and the one place

they have land is all the way up there and it's a very inconvenient place yeah they make uh the leafs and the raptors and the blue jays and tfc and the marley's and and now by extension toronto pwhl they make it and the argos they make it preposterously easy for if you don't live in toronto here's this really easy way to get in come here uh take your money that you got from other cities spend it here and beat it without ever actually setting foot like on the streets of toronto like it's it's crazy this does not have that and it's a venue two and a half uh two and a half times the size of the acc nightmare absolutely not no thank you like it if you are from a certain distance east you you won't be stepping foot yeah and the idea that an nfl team

would go up there it'd be a little disappointing because of just getting there would be impossible for the person that lives downtown or just east of the city it's it's like having the jets play in albany like i i just to me well the the that's the jets do play outside of new york and it's very inconvenient oh really oh there you go play they play out in uh newark i think it is yeah like dude leaving foxborough uh when the outdoor game was there at Habs Bruins, leaving Gillette Stadium, I was like, people live like this? So

we're just all going to collectively not move for the next hour and a half. That's what we're doing? LA has the same problem with SoFi Stadium being out in Englewood, I believe. There's no transit going out there because LA's transit system is awful getting out to those places, and they have the same problem

with SoFi. The people don't go there. They don't go there outside of going to those football games. Same thing with where Ballmer's new arena is, which is right there. it's there's no transit out there and i i don't know if you have the opportunity to build something new don't replicate all of these places that have made this mistake and i guess the idea is we're going to build up and around it because there's going to be stuff like that in the other areas that's the idea you know you're going to build around sofi and and balmer's new stadium out in

englewood but here there's already stuff there like we got a giant mall just south of there the 401 there's two there's so much housing around downsville and all that stuff there's nothing to build up you're just putting it in an inconvenient area so i just wish you'd planned a little better live nation and then they're gonna put housing there which is good we need more housing but how are any of those people gonna get anywhere oh i live in this fucking prison like well i think i think the idea is to probably develop it yeah is that the idea more places to spend money while not spending money on making it easier to get to those places Yeah, with this, you have to come with some sort of transit plan for the next 20 years of Toronto.

Make it easier for the citizens to spend money instead of spending money on the citizens. That's what the government always does. And there would probably be some sort of expansion of that GO train station that's way out there because that's there and that'd be convenient. But just some sort of just get better. Yeah, well, everyone enjoy that plywood hunk of shit. I'm not going. I'm excited. I was excited about it.

Matty, why don't we go to Oasis together and tell Steve and Jesse what a great time we had. Today is going to be the day. Yeah, I'm going to send you guys videos. You'll be like, wow, we're having the best time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's going to make me miss. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be like, fuck,

I wish I was there. Back to hockey. The NHLPA has officially filed a grievance on behalf of Ryan Johansson for his centrally canceled contract by the philadelphia flyers remains to be seen what happens here but i would think there's going to be some sort of monetary settlement and that this never actually makes it to some sort of public setting where we're going to hear about it i hope the flyers get dinged if there is yeah yeah if there's a monetary settlement that should go against your cap but like what are we talking

here's what i want to know guys like let's say it takes six months for that settlement to happen will the will it be applied retroactively to the cap or will it and if it's not are like who is going to call shenanigans like let's say the flyers have to settle and pay multiple millions here and the nhl pulls like a mike richards where it's like oh yeah it went away and nobody talked about it and we're just going to pretend yeah no if if i'm the canucks or panthers i call shenanigans on absolutely because of the luongo because of the luongo cap recapture you didn't let us have our fun no one gets to have it nope i'm complaining nope don't feel like it nope i like i still don't understand why mike richards is on a reduced

rate for the la kings like we we've we've talked about that um and it without knowing all the details like it's hard to have a hard and fast opinion about this because we don't know all the details but it feels like ryan johansson and the philadelphia flyers were in the middle of doing something that lots of other teams have done the difference is the flyers really really wanted to get rid of him right they could have roby da island him it sounds like the vegas golden nights were starting to you know lay the breadcrumbs that yeah we're gonna do this with robin lenner uh you know not an apples to apples thing but sounded very similar and it sounds like the people involved nip that in the bud real fast and that's not gonna happen yeah um but i i don't

understand i'd like to know what ryan johansson did that is so different from what anyone else has done well the word is that he deceived the avalanche based on his injury the avalanche or the flyers the avalanche and then the flyers were also deceived and that he waited till the end of the summer to get the procedure that they recommended that's the that's the scuttlebutt i don't think he deceived the avalanche because he played up until he was traded right apparently there was some sort of the from what i have read and i don't know how confirmable any of this is the that the abs are claiming they didn't know the extent and i don't know how that's possible so is that the abs trying to avoid what happened to the senators where maybe senators got dinged

but i just here's what i think not having all the details with the golden knights the reason that ryan johansson was traded essentially from the blue jackets because he was supposed to be their young cool number one center kind of like beer luke dubois are we sensing a pattern here is that he and torts hated each other yeah so when the flyers acquired him my question was always in what world is ryan johansson ever gonna play for this team and the answer was he wasn't and he wasn't going to report to lehigh valley yeah but you're gonna get whatever your salary was in lehigh valley uh without having to dock escrow dude take it lots of players have you know what i mean yeah like if he's healthy do it i just i'm i'm there is incentive for him to play sure i guess there's

also incentive for him to just sit at home yeah i just i know that he would have never played under torts never right never have happened so when the flyers acquired him my question is you can loan him out what what under what circumstances other than that deal itself were they like what are we like they must have known okay torts hates this guy this guy hates torts he's never going to play here it's purely cap right but then so you acquire him that doesn't give him the right to make up a will just say hey my injury is now worse and i can't play for you no of course not i'm just i'm just skeptical that's what happened okay what do you mean i'm i'm skeptical he was like yeah i'm gonna be real sneaky about this and like i just how would he think he could possibly get away with

that right it's it's a little fishy on his end because he played right up until he was traded yes but the so the incentive for johansson to keep playing um or rather the incentive seems to be there for the flyers right because they get out from underneath this monetarily right but like are they fighting because they really want them to play for lehigh valley like is is that it i think it's no no the nhlpa is filing the grievance on behalf of ryan johansson yeah because the flyers terminated his contract because they said he was lying about this injury right right so it's it's the onus is on ryan johansson here is fighting for his money back because he thought he could well after he was traded to the flyers he thought like oh now i'm

gonna get surgery for this injury and i can go on ltir collect my check become a free agent leave but they said no you didn't have this injury you're doing this unceremoniously we got it we're gonna cut you yeah that's what's happening i'm just it's an interesting story right that seems like something so blatant and dumb and like maybe that's just straight up what happened it's just you ever hear a story that's so dumb you have a hard time believing it i don't think it's dumb i think like he thought that players kind of do this all the time where it's like oh if i want to get surgery tomorrow i can because i have this injury and he thought he could exercise it in this instance and know everybody would be okay with it and you could

just collect this check and the flyers would be like yeah go away but the flyers are like no we actually want this money we're gonna cut you is are there similarities to jack eichel and the sabers where eichel's like i'm gonna get the surgery and the sabers were like well no you're not allowed and this is simply johansson went and got a surgery without getting it cleared with the flyers no no i haven't heard that i don't think that's yeah no i don't think those so it's difficult to know without all the it's gonna be one to watch but i have a sneaking suspicion guys that this settles so no one talks and the flyers do not get dinged on the cap yeah i think that's that's what's gonna happen how it should be because that's the precedence not illegal uh

dennis bernstein uh from who writes about the la kings uh is hearing that drew dowdy has a fractured ankle but there is no other damage and everybody's worried about his achilles that's crazy do you remember from that so this is a game from a couple nights ago yeah uh he ran into us for the vegas golden knights thing um and he needed to be helped off the ice and this is a guy who is very healthy most of the time well i just when i saw his reaction like it wasn't one of um his reaction seemed very similar to reactions i've seen where people rupture their Achilles where it's not even necessarily like he's down, he's yelling, he's screaming. Um, there's like, go back and look at Kevin Durant when he got hurt.

Oh my God. He just sort of went down and was like, fuck, like, you know, something really bad just happened. And you know, if a guy breaks their leg skateboarding, you know, any video I've ever seen is there's they're screaming bloody murder. um so doughty handling that so calmly and you see him say my ankle i'm like that's his achilles 100 easy so for it to just be a fracture is great news for him and the kings because bones are actually easier to heal they also have a significant amount of young talent they could

probably benefit from using that time and then gives him a little bit of padded space to to really actually get fully healthy and not race back all of a sudden brant clark and jordan spence pretty valuable might be playing 20 plus minutes a night yeah yeah and what's going to be fascinating too is apparently uh at their camp la has switched up their style completely so they're not playing the 131 anymore and they're going to be a far more fast moving high speed team they have the talent for it yeah it's i think it actually lends lends it to what la has better than what they were playing before well that's during our season preview and this is why i was so down on the kings i was looking at the team they had and the team that we recognize them as i'm like this

doesn't match and so i know it's good it's good to to hear that they're trying something different they should they should be doing what the stars did they were the shutdown metapod team and kind of subtly over time it's like wait a sec these guys score all the time like these guys are actually running gun hockey it's a lot of fun yeah um spencer carpery did you guys see this no uh i guess preseason does matter to some people because washington started preseason oh and two and so they've lost six straight games spencer said to sorry um uh the media i'll be totally honest with you there hasn't been a lot of separation thus far at camp i haven't seen someone take the bull by the horns own that spot and go holy that's a good coach

That's a good, that's a challenge, right? You're, you're challenging all the players on, uh, on your roster. He's just being honest, right? This is the, the caps. If you look at the bottom of the lineup, there's, there's room for improvement. There's, there's room for guys to come in. There's a lot of young guys who might be taking it for granted that they have a spot. Um, he's upping the standard for the Washington capitals.

That's all he's done since he's, he's joined them. so yeah good for him like that um are you uh are you interested in seeing uh sorry are you interested in knowing just how bad the ducks will be this year oh i saw this um so john gibson underwent an emergency appendectomy oh this is something i thought you were going somewhere and is going to miss three to six weeks of action do goalies need their core uh just a little important yeah that's so so bad which is crazy an emergency appendectomy is like there's nothing you could do about that what did you see with it oh uh i saw a pre-season lineup it was you know how teams will do their juiced lineup and their their who are these people lineup half the names

i'm like you're made up you're not be a player there were uh put it this way i when i went through the roster i went ah i know that one it was it was it was a tough look um uh yeah it's it's uh it's gonna be a rough start for them um a little shout out to john tortorell this is a bit of an older story but gee gadreau or guy gadreau was brought to uh flyers camp that's johnny and matthew gadreau's dad and i thought this was very cool because uh meredith gadreau said um john and maddie would have loved this they're so proud of their dad i know this made them smile as they watched down from heaven and i what a great opportunity and what a great what a smart move by john to to do something like that um this is a uh a flyers team that by all accounts johnny

probably should have been on had they not made the moves they made right and i think um i think you know it's it's making the best out of a bad situation and for the flyers it's going to be a battle that for them to be relevant this year what a nice little i think there's a boost there too it uh it doesn't cost anything to be kind right um this was an easy thing to do and i think i think sometimes you go through something and and people say you know let me know if i can do anything and they mean it i believe that they mean it but um you got to be sometimes when people are grieving you got to be proactive yeah and this was the the flyers being proactive and the i think the invitation was such a fabulous gesture and john tortorella remains one of the more complicated

people in the national hockey league you know the we we know his reputation and how bombastic he is but i do think at the core of him he's a good person oh yeah i don't think anybody would doubt that yeah two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca you gotta try breakfast And what better way than with a delicious Pret Organic Coffee,

starting at just $1 all day, every day, now until December 31st. At participating A&W locations in Ontario. on. Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know, the same way you can skip an ad. I get it. I'm Siaya and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll. So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride don't miss the new season of north of north starting september 8th on cbc gem um yeah so there's there's that um now jesus adam i don't know if how much how much speed i got left

i'm so excited for the weekend for you thank you i appreciate it um uh there is a couple things so jesse i sent a video and then i was hoping jesse could bring us through this because the first video is something that went viral yesterday that if you haven't seen it yet, it is extremely wholesome. This is the Canyon Ice Hockey Federation joining the double IHF and finding out that they

are in fact included. Have a look. Oh! We're in, people! One on three! Wow. anonymous i mean anonymous unanimous fucking idiot i ruined such a great moment what a dumbass

why did you yell because the votes were unanimous the votes were unanimous and i said anonymous we are anonymous we are legion yeah they were we do not forgive we do not 103 to zero yeah definitely anonymous yeah dude just put the guy fox mascot fucking idiot stupid idiot amazing now jesse do you mind bringing us through this next story i did send it over which one's this it's the um it's a bit of a bit of a wild card to throw at you but we talked about the utah yeti hmm and we talked about the mascot and how like you know i was thinking like monster zinc yeti wouldn't that be fun but it turns out there already was a yeti mascot in the nhl right yes

i brought up uh howler that's right and i think avalanche's original mascot and i think it's only it's only uh fair that you bring up why howler is no longer the mascot of the colorado avalanche before i die all right this is the last thing we'll do and let Adam go uh this is an article from nine news nbc before bernie there was howler the story behind the colorado avalanches original mascot denver before bernie entertained fans at colorado avalanche games there was howler standing more than seven feet tall colorado's friendliest bigfoot is what they called them burst onto the scene when the Avs came to Denver from Quebec City in 95. They stole the tame.

He's the reason many of those classic Avalanche jerseys you see have the footprint on them. Classic patch. They should bring it back. But Howler just kind of disappeared in 2001. Ooh, spooky. What is this? Haunting of Hill House?

And the Avs were without a mascot until Bernie arrived in 2009. they went eight years without a mascot holy cow details are scarce about what happened before howler's exit only an associated press story detailing a march 1999 incident at mcnichols arena what we know is that howler and a fan named linda got into a scuffle how what the hell linda van hook told nine news she was wearing her then boyfriend's blackhawks jersey when she went outside for a smoke break between periods you cannot do that today you know this story from 1999 because you could just go in and out an arena and just have a smoke break yeah wow van hook said howler was going around bonking fans on the head with rolled up posters and he

bonked her she said she pushed him he pushed back and before long the pair were in a scuffle van hook said security broke up the fight and put them in separate rooms while police took statements she told nine news howler kicked her in the stomach during the scuffle and she went to the hospital to get checked out the trail goes quiet about howler after that at the time a spokesman for the then owner of the team told ap my understanding is that there was an incident that's about it a lot of fans say he seemed to just disappear van hook who now lives in florida told nine news i guess i was the end of howler wow there you go that's the end of the story so first of all that's an incredible find and i didn't know that shout out to justin fisher for

that yeah unbelievable second of all howler's innocent and you know how i know howler's innocent howler is a suit the guy inside a howler got into a scuffle with linda yeah howler is a suit i'm thinking they could have just kept howler and hired a new guy to be in the suit you could have just you could just kept the suit but instead of a new suit you went without howler for like a decade eight years because the guy in howler's suit bonked a lady on the head and then fodder what the fuck that's automatic termination like it has to be because your one job as a mascot is to interact with fans yes jolly lovable thing so if you can't do your job you should be fired as a mascot yes like there's no defense of howler here you don't need to get rid of the mascot you

could just put a new guy in the suit here's my question how much of the suit was this person wearing when they gave their statement to police that's funny yeah do you just you know they were wearing part of it yeah i assume he just took off the head and it was just pure comedy dude there's something out of like always sunny you know they're so hot and also as a mascot do you not have to accept that people especially kids will punch and kick you yeah that's why he deserved to be fired yeah yeah yeah but that or she we don't know you don't need a full like that's that's pre-social media yeah like you don't even nobody would have known no right now if that happens there's if gritty fights some uh devil's fan like there's a tiktok about it and then it

goes viral it's on twitter for like 48 hours and then gritty loses his job you know like but this is 99 who knows justice for the suit you know what i mean justice for howler oh the other guy no no he can go to jail but the guy inside the suit or inside the suit rather didn't do anything oh guys wouldn't it be cool if first utah colorado game in utah here comes howler who rips off the abs jersey to reveal hc oh man and then instant rivalry he's a traitor wouldn't that be crazy Like when Sergeant Slaughter started fighting for Iraq. Like if I were the Utah team, I would just do that. Get a suit that looks like Owler.

Oh, this is Bowler. Actually, we're the mountain team now. Sorry, Flames. Sorry, Denver. Then you get people like us going back. You brought back the guy who fought a woman. No. Don't talk to that guy.

Who's us? Don't you dare associate me. I think the suit is innocent. the man is in the room i'm starting to lean towards like the guy in the suit represents the suit no yeah poo no so i feel like garbage this per this person in the suit ruined the reputation of howler if okay let's say howler murdered someone yes are you bringing are you just keeping the suit okay are you just like no probably stained at that point a new guy in the suit this is different no you gotta remove remove the suit i think the person in there

stay in the suit you move on you're bringing bernie the dog the saint bernard it's all good if howler murdered or somebody or just put a new somebody new in the suit howler was set up now okay so the person in the suit ruined howler's reputation yeah howler should be able to sue the person wearing the suit the suit should be able to sue the wearer of the suit it's a good point point for defamation great i hope to have my voice back monday i'm sure i will i feel better i'm sorry that it sounds like this i'm gonna tear down the fourth wall we're recording four season previews after this that's right good luck man yeah i am yeah it's gonna be fun yeah i forgot my notebook so it definitely will be

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