The Steve Dangle Podcast - Apples | April 1, 2021

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Happy Long Weekend (00:00), who wore the crown? (04:15), more deadline Leafs talk after they beat the Jets last night (11:30), the Flyers waive Shayne Gostisbehere (32:00), Patrik Laine is struggling in Columbus (43:00), Erik Karlsson eats an apple (1:02:00), Thatcher Demko signs an extension (1:12:00), the Sabres won! (1:15:00), Jays Talk (1:19:00), and an AHC on the Ever Given (1:24:00). Originally aired: April 1, 2021 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/Ihf25rT4ZAE Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: Visit this episode's sponsors: https://www.freshly.com/​ https://betmgm.com/en/​ https://theathletic.com/sdp​ https://www.getroman.com/ed/​ Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake a very happy easter to you if you are celebrating and even if you're not happy easter because it's a three-day weekend so all right sometimes and if you have the right job and you you chose correctly you have a four-day weekend but if you didn't choose correctly like us you don't ever get a weekend they said there'd be no math oh my god imagine having two consecutive days off oh man it's impossible it's not gonna happen just not gonna happen um yeah i asked adam this before the show but if any of our american listeners can tell me is it also a stat holiday down the states tomorrow it has to be i don't know if they do good friday yeah no the states are more jesus

than we are that's why i think it has to be right but like most of the stat holidays are like columbus day president's day invade the other the other space that isn't yet ours day we took land explosives day the rockets red glare day that's not until may don't be silly it's april was that the april fool's prank that you thought missiles day or whatever you called is in april is that your prank can we get missiles day shirts yeah and then every april 1st we drop new missiles day merch what the fuck celebrate missiles day with the steve deco podcast we're gonna spend and we're gonna spend a billion dollars with the nfl just to advertise it yeah and we're gonna make the uh national anthem mandatory let me be clear about something i don't

know which parts of this are a bit anymore i've i've gotten lost i don't know ask america which part of what's going on in america is a bit all right like it's pretty wild remains my favorite reality show this is to uh to everybody that has served in any any sort of military function thank you so much for your service we're not making fun of that we are making fun of the fascination with explosives guns and presidents in the united states and i think everybody's allowed to do that just a little bit okay we're allowed to make fun of our big big brother did you know that the u.s army uh just signed a contract with microsoft for 21 billion dollars to uh create augmented reality helmets cool well i would imagine that would be helpful if you're not sending soldiers

into battle anymore and it's just guys like proxy soldiers like yeah you know what i mean like you have a helmet on and it's like a video game one day war is going to be like call of duty yeah well that's what call of duty exists it's training us all up for war this is not what i signed up for well this is not what i i thought we were going to talk about like the blue jays and speaking of successful teams in buffalo the sabers won well they won once i mean really what are we supposed to say you won one game that is a 1000 improvement improvement on the previous 18 games that's true that's a good point sorry i've got a bit of a mess here happening with my stand i almost hit myself in the face uh what's happening to us the terrible

desk here that i have the 85 stand-up desk i bought on amazon it likes to sink into my new um into my new flooring so i've got it so that i like i'll start the podcast and it's just on a bit of a tilt that's okay i'm on i'm on a bit of a tilt constantly yeah well listen the leafs play a near perfect game in winnipeg last night we'll talk about that in a little bit plus also on the show uh elliot friedman saying that toronto has checked in to buffalo about something that might surprise you unless you've been listening to what i've been telling you in which case it will not surprise you it will be the smart thing would you give up robertson for eichel i say no uh mckinnon and mcdavid both fine columbus what are they doing with line a

and of course eric carlson eating an apple i mean that's the story of the day i think it has to be can we do we start with it no how could we know the crown steven all right charity stupid all right jesse who are we talking about today all right so today's who wore the crown comes from Liam okay Liam was saying instead of a shout out I was wondering if y'all could do a who wore the crown for the Toronto six in addition to the Leafs so there weren't any Toronto six games we can't really do it unless we throw back to when they're back last week yeah uh I have next season on that one because yeah because that I don't want to because they don't deserve to be shoehorned yeah exactly this properly fine fine we'll we'll save it for it will save your idea for Tuesday Liam

but he also said um i obviously don't know if it's possible for you guys to do it uh and if my idea gets through i just want to thank you guys steve adam and jesse for all the amazing work you do on the sdp you three represent the best of hockey and uh the rest of it i just don't want to pat myself on the back anymore but liam thinks we're awesome oh that's nice liam's right and liam gave two sick kids well uh liam liam's the kind of guy and my friend saw this meme on the internet and sent it to me the other day and he's like yeah why don't we do this more liam's the kind of guy that goes through life and pumps your tires and this meme i saw on the internet said why don't we just go through life pumping other people's tired tires and making them feel good

about themselves why don't we guys why not why not so make your friend feel good for his time at his previous employer, the Toronto Zoo. Okay. Oh, Jesse is not having that. Jesse's like, no, fuck you, it's exhausting. The people love Steve's Zoo Stories. And just so everybody knows, the segment is called Steve's Zoo Stories

and Adam's History Corner. They have different names. Get it right. I think it should be Steve's Zoo Corner for sure. No, that's Adam's History Corner, Steve's Zoo Stories. Can it be Steve's Zoo Corner presented by Adam? Could be. Can I buy the segment?

Yeah, you pay us. By Adam's History Corner? Well, listen, I think it was pretty funny, the meme that we had that Jesse posted on the Steve Dangle Podcast Instagram. By the way, you can follow at the Steve Dangle Podcast. Remember, the is important, like the sports. I don't think we're at the Steve Dangle Podcast.

Are we not? No, on Instagram, it's just at Steve Dangle Podcast. This podcast has been a mess. oh my god no it's oh we're gonna get it back you think it does say the steve dangle podcast in the thing though in the bio but like the handle is at steve dangle okay so it's steve dangle podcast okay well fine anyway this is the meme and it was really funny um oh also steve looks like the joker in one of those and that's weird too um okay so we got to talk about who wore the crown who wants to go first anybody have one where they're like i must go before the two

of you i'll take it no oh take oh rains since you guys don't want to step up i'll tell you who stepped up jesse campbell step up to the streets jesse i will jack campbell gets my crown and to be honest i want to give him seven crowns because quietly this is the most quiet seven and oh start for a goalie i think ever in leafs history did you know that jack campbell is seven and 0 this season i did seven seven zero and zero so jack campbell so far 702 shutouts 948 save percentage he stepped in stepped up for freddie crown goes to soup love it steve adam what the what was that i've just fixed some stuff a bunch of shit fell apart on me i have shitty equipment okay i've been showing people on cameo my shitty my shitty podcast setup it's falling

apart and it was a bad time stop pointing it out okay i'm gonna come over there and i'm gonna take all your dolls off the wall what's okay no not again no you're not absolutely not again i stole one of steve doll steve's dolls once and took it to a tampa bay lightning game so in tampa in tampa you know i forgot that happened it was pretty sweet it was it was pretty funny it was it was james reimer oh yeah it was the right i took him on vacation he's he's back in his rightful where is he where is he for the love of there he is and it was star wars 2 at the game well james loves star wars so he was very happy to go he told me that later on when you brought

you're up uh so you know you ever try to fix something that isn't broken i mean adam tries to fix things that are broken throughout the show do you ever try to fix something that's not zach hyman getting back onto the leafs top line gosh you know maybe we just need to go out and get some third line help like the boys were saying because sometimes the answer is right under your nose and zach hyman zachary right back on the attackery leading to the first two goals of the game ended up getting the game morning goal himself key part of the penalty kill key part of everything my goodness what doesn't Zach Hyman do and the answer is let you down Zach Hyman is an amazing gentleman an amazing individual and gosh darn it here's your crown

Zachary wow that's my crown on the attackery that's Zachary on the attackery I like that it flows so well you don't even have to force it it's really good mine's going to go to a little known and little mentioned subject uh his name is austin matthews and you know whenever you need a goal austin seems to be the guy that can get you that goal you know last night and we'll get into this a little bit better uh but last night was the perfect way that you would want the leafs to handle a game against a team that is as good as the winnipeg jets are the winnipeg jets to me are the second best team in that division and the Leafs handled them really really well and it starts with Austin Matthews and that first effort it was it it was the Austin Matthews goal and then

the Austin Matthews post that led to the Zach Hyman goal and it's things like that that just seemed to happen when Austin Matthews is on the ice so my crown Austin Matthews for just making goals happen he's a goal guy he does goals that's what he does when he had a shot taken away briefly like he was still finding ways the the dangles the tips the oh he's disgusting that's right he is disgusting now jesse one more time on the name who sponsored the segment today liam liam l-i-m the next time you want to be a good guy like liam and pump other people's tires and give to charity why not why not let us know that you gave to charity so we can have you as the sponsor of the who wore the crown segment on the steve dangle podcast back by popular demand

Now, last night, that's got to be the perfect kind of game, right? Oh, just a coach's dream. Coach's dream where there were 10 total shots in the third period, and the team that was down had five of them. How many two-goal deficits are you going to erase with five shots in a third period? Not a lot. But you're playing the Leafs, though.

But you are playing the Leafs. You know what I got really scared when they got the double minor and then the Jets scored when it was 2-0-6 left in the first minor. And I was like, oh, if we could have just killed seven more seconds, the goal would have just erased both of them and then would have been okay. But I was like, they're going to score again here. And then they didn't, which was awesome. And here's how neurotic we are as Leaf fans.

Like, okay, they scored with six seconds left in that power play. There was a shorthanded goal, like, a few seconds into that. Yeah. And none of us cared. Like, spoiled. Alex Kerfoot, like, I feel bad for him because even when he does things right, people are like, I didn't notice. He's not a bad player.

Like, I don't know why everybody wants to kick him out of town so bad. Kerfoot on this team is, like, what, the 10th most important guy? Maybe even less. Yeah. Oh, probably less. Yeah. So, it's like, okay. maybe you don't cross my mind a lot whatever yeah but what I'm saying is that just because

he's the 10th doesn't mean he's not useful and he is useful and like and the thing is Alex Kerfoot needs to shoot and we saw why Alex Kerfoot never shoots needs to shoot needs to score some more goals and again for three and a half million dollars I can understand uh it was the same issue we had with Kapanen and Janssen and here's the problem three and a half million dollar players from time to time are going to frustrate you because the talent's there but sometimes they don't just, they just don't put it all together, which is why they're not making seven or 8 million. And so I think in Alice Kerfoot's case, I know that there's trades coming and I get that everybody's like, well, he's the salary that needs to go. I would just

like to pump some caution into that because if this guy gets going and plays like he did last year, you're going to be completely fine with the way he plays. I'd like him to be better, better in the face off dot as well, a hundred percent, but for three and a half million dollars, the wheels that that guy has, what he brings to the penalty kill when he's on, He's very, very good. And there's that, there's an enigma about Alex Kerfoot. I'm still intrigued by the skillset that this guy has that we just haven't seen be put together. And remember too, this is a guy who's been shuffled from how many line one, line two, line three, and how many different line mates has he had? Like he's not been, it's not like, you know,

Matthews and Marner, most of the season they've been together. Tavares, Nylander, most of the season they've been together. Who has Kerfoot had if he's been the center? And he's had production everywhere, which is important. Like Joe Thornton, bless him, did a really good job on the top line when he was there. He has not really done anything anywhere else. Like, I think he's a positive presence. I enjoy having him on the team, but he's not producing. But it's okay.

He's a 41-year-old making league minimum. Alex Kerfoot is making three and a half, and if that were the same case with him, we would all be offering after you, after you, after you to drive him to the airport. I think this is an important player and a good player, and if you gotta move his salary out of town fine i'd prefer it to be in the off season unless you really if you really blow me away you get that cold mom i don't care yes right but like

if we're talking like okay i keep saying i follow i want i follow from the kings okay so you're bringing in him and taking kerfoot out is that an improvement yeah i think marginally maybe exactly it's not it's not enough it's not enough to justify losing this player i think if you can find a way to get both yeah buddy like i would trade him for conor mcdavid but like otherwise i do that i think i'd do it i think i'd do that yeah would you do that okay not leon though screw leon no guy makes we've talked about this he makes eight and a half that's way too much it's way too much for leon drives we did once say that boy what fools we were what fools we were i still stand by the logic but i'm not holy shit he's been real good um i think you know i think

when we talk about um the way you want the leafs to look on the offensive side of the puck though it's it's the top three lines are rolling the fourth line just does what the fourth line does and occasionally scores you're like wow that's great thank you uh and then the the defense though steve i think you made a really good point there in the third period 10 total shots you're not going to score a lot on connor hellebuck with five shots in a period you just probably will never score at all uh but with jack campbell it's seeming more and more like you won't score either this guy has been lights out and apparently not even close to fully healthy and i think part of the reason he's been able to be so good and flourish and build confidence in that net is

because the Leafs defense in front of them is pretty good well and and uh a thing I saw talked about that I think is important to our little trade discussion we just had Travis Dermott played like eight minutes and barely played the back half of the game but then you talk about how well they executed the back half of the game specifically the third period what do you do what do you do there i i don't think it makes a ton of sense to roll out justin hall and jake muzzin 25 minutes a night during the regular season but during the playoffs during the playoffs absolutely so i that's we seem to fluctuate we go back and forth on who the leaf should get and i think this is one of those games that tips me towards oh okay it's

maybe a defender then you know their great defensive performance leads leans me towards they need more defense which is odd i know but sort of what i brought up on the last show too about gouch um i'm calling him gouch because that's the nickname that makes chucky doesn't make sense it's gouch fun in toronto it's gouch i don't know it's very satisfying i like it so gauch is the guy it's gauch by the way um what about chenny chenny just a chin uh i think what i like about what i like about him is he's doing everything right now that michelle terrian was dying for him to do in montreal like dying for him to do and he's you know he's a he's a physical presence he's on the puck he is the he seems to be anyway the sixth forward that they've sort of

been looking for. And I think there was a lot of people last episode who were kind of confused by what we were saying about Zach Hyman and how we wanted him on the third line. And our point in that was saying that if you can have Zach Hyman on the third line, then you have a deep, deep forward group. And that doesn't mean he stays on the third line. This isn't NHL 21. He moves up as the game goes on. That's the point. But at the beginning of the game, you want to try to have three lines going if you can if you're the Toronto Maple Leafs so you just completely outmatch a team that's that's that you're playing and Zach Hyman being on the third line driving that play would do that I understand the need for some sort of extra winger maybe but haven't you noticed since

Gauch came up has started becoming a good player for the Toronto Maple Leafs that the conversation around him or Dubas going and getting a winger has completely changed like you don't hear it And I recognize Tavares or I noticed Tavares so much more and I noticed Nylander so much more. And I wonder if it's because Galchenyuk is such a handful that it gives him a little bit extra space. Tavares especially like Nylander has been much better at finding free space than Tavares. but Tavares is like a sort of in-the-trenches sort of player, likes to play in tight. Galchenyuk's been providing something that hasn't really been there this season. And to our Kerfoot conversation, if they're able to get a third-line center,

like you've been beating that drum this whole time, Adam, could your top two left-wingers then be potentially Galchenyuk and Kerfoot? Why not? With Thornton filling in sometimes, and you have Zach Hyman way down on the third. I want you to imagine Hyman, Centerman, whatever the Centerman is, and Wayne Simmons. Yeah.

Man, I think the ideal fourth line of this team, and they'll eventually get there, is Joe Thornton, Jason Spezza, Wayne Simmons. And as a fourth line, that's so formidable. that's yeah a few years ago that would have been like one of the best line best first lines in the nhl right um they're all older now and a little bit more beat up but you throw them out there i don't know 11 12 minutes a game yeah that's some good stuff that's some good stuff i gotta say i i don't know what do you guys think of uh i can't believe i'm bringing this player up pierre engvall

dude i love this guy why what i don't know why i don't know why it's just man he's i'm not noticing him in the negative way i was at the beginning of the season when like i've forgotten that he could barely make the team right and now i think the leafs have him like penned in as the third line center yeah but that's not i i wouldn't say that's optimal i mean if you can push them down to the fourth cool no no i think i think optimal is him being a sub because i don't think you're pushing any of those guys off i don't think i don't steve you've seen what you've seen a week a good week out of pierre ingvall and all of a sudden good week he hasn't how dare you i think he's been great for like a month and a half great for a month and a half i really do i really do i

like he drives me fucking crazy i will say you don't think he has a spot on the lineup i think i think ideally he's not your third line center and he's definitely not your fourth line center because spence is the fourth line magic him and mckeough have this man how many lines have two guys that tall and that fast like i just think in and if you play them correctly so little with the puck it's yeah but the opponent is doing so little with the puck when they're on the ice which is what they're there for they're the negative time you're just it's just neutral time just a bunch of neutral time there's a lot of bad that's not a bad thing yeah but with the leafs they don't need that they could they could go get a good productive center if eric stall was a

toronto maple leaf that third line is productive productive are we doing is this the mason raymond phenomenon like is the answer that we're eventually going to come up with actually the leafs offense is really good and it's versatile yeah and there's a lot of options there and maybe they should put their focus elsewhere i'm so happy with this forward group you have like what 12 guys who are just decent and it can switch in at any time and then you have your top six obviously that are amazing and then so just kind of leave the forward group alone and go get a defenseman if you're i'm with you on that trying to make a trade if you have so many pieces and they do so many different things that you can create a solid lineup out of them

and the amount the sheer amount of guys they have in the minors who could come up and be perfectly fine and the amount of guys that they've lost and they haven't missed a step what they lost boyd they lost vc and they still have totally forgot about barabanov uh patan is on a really good streak in the minors robertson they just got sda and of course he gets his first ahl point on a robertson goal which is hilarious because they're magic together those two absolute magic at robertson shot it's sda smart all he's all he has to do is get him the puck like he doesn't have to do anything magical with it just pass it to nick and he'll shoot it through a goalie he's he's eating up the american hockey league what we keep coming to i think is maybe

defensive help because let's say there's an injury okay and you gotta fill in a spot on the left wing are you worried no I think don't get by dude they played Barabanov with Tavares and Nylander on purpose for several games and it was good yeah because you have two elite players the other two don't just need a guy who's gonna go get the puck and like half the guys in this roster are guys who are gonna work hard and go get the puck for you which is what Galchenyuk is doing right and I think Patan is a guy who if you had to for a game or two could do that Robertson is the third name i mentioned in this conversation somehow and that's like priority number one that we're talking about on the trade deadline no i think it's a defender well and i would disagree i

actually think it's a goalie and i've been saying that for a bit now we do know today on wgr that elliot freeman was making his weekly appearance on uh 55 wgr in buffalo and he said the leafs have checked in with the Sabres. They'd be stupid not to. Linus Olmark is over Bettman 500, man. On the Sabres. That's dumb. Guys,

Linus Olmark was one of the guys I brought up. Linus Olmark. So this is if Freddie is not going to be healthy. That's what I was about to say. I hate to say this, guys. Freddie ain't going to be healthy. If you're getting a goalie, that means you talk to the doctors

and they said that Freddie's going to be out a lot longer than we all think he'll be on the ltir the rest of the season yeah i think they got to very quickly maybe get vevaline in the net for a game or two uh and make it and make a decision here which was that it was at that time i didn't think it was that shocking i'm drinking the sparkly water and and i mean it would have been worse had you said hutch but you're right yeah I mean, listen, it's, it's not, it's not good. You don't, they didn't get Vevel lining because they wanted him to play this season.

Well, I just feel like, well, if you didn't, then you have a decision to make. And I think the decision has been made for you because you need to, obviously Freddie's no longer an option. So you need to get Jack some rest because as good as he's playing, he's obviously not a hundred percent either. There's 20 games left. Like for a short season,

it's a pretty long season uh and you're gonna have to get someone else uh to fill up the net and you don't exactly have first locked up last night was big and then you play the freaking jets again you know and they win and all of a sudden they're right back within one and the oilers are right there too you know so i i think they need to make a decision there sooner rather than later and you know we're probably i think we're gonna get a trade any day now and that's not exactly uh going off the board here wow jesse he's out of control today we gotta put a stop to this we might get a trade any day now oh well if you want to get a player on the same day as the trade deadline you have to make a trade what is it april 5th yeah or something like that so

they gotta they gotta get somebody and they gotta get someone who's not shitty at net it's funny how shout out jesse's dog that just made an appearance in his mirror on the left side i don't know oh yeah yeah waffles waffles his butthole but that's what it was this was waffles i don't think you can see it on the on the video because i'm like this square oh are you okay sorry man on the wide angle you could probably see my dog walking around yeah so i i saw it but nobody else did so trust us it's me and waffles i was gonna say um it's funny how there was that week where the leafs had one game and everyone was like oh they're they had that marked it circled on their calendar this is the week the Leafs are making the trade this is the

week and Dubas was like no I'm not I'm not doing it here you guys all think I'm doing this thing and I'm not gonna do it when you tried when you don't know I'm doing a thing that's probably when it's gonna get done and like now that we know he's spoken to the Sabres I think we can pretty confidently say he won't deal with them yeah that's what it seems like out of spite well Maybe the Jonathan Quick rumors are true then. I mean, I hope not. Oh, me too. I don't know.

I don't know when the last time he had a good week was, but it's probably been a while. I think what it is is this, guys. Like, yeah, they're going to get a defenseman probably. It's going to be a depth defenseman, though. It's going to be somebody who slots in with, who can probably draw in with Bogosian or Travis Dermott. And maybe it's crazy to say,

but maybe for the first time in a long time, the Leafs need a backup left shot defenseman. They, I got to say, I had no idea Bogosian was this kind of player. Like not even this good. This good doesn't describe him. I didn't know he was this kind of player. Like I thought he was this big,

like going to bruise you up guy. And he'll do that on occasion, but like he skates pretty well for the guy he was advertised as he moves the puck pretty well the the what was it it was the hyman goal the little pass to marner passing it to where marner's going to be and not where he is and just ah he's he's such a much better puck mover uh than i could have ever expected like what a great signing great by dubas great find and it's funny because you know you look at his history though poor guy it was like atlanta the jets when they were bad and then the sabers who

are always bad like it's not like he's had a lot of great teams to play with and boom the lightning and then lightning yeah lightning championship whoa yeah he was playing top line minutes was he not like was he was he not playing like on their first pair because the lightning defense was decimated they their final their right side was uh brutal i want to i'm trying I don't remember who they had. Didn't they have Hedman out? During the – I want to say their left side was good. Their left side options –

That's Sergachev, Hedman, and who? McDonough. Oh, Jesus. So they had Hedman, McDonough, Sergachev, I think was the order, which is stupid. It's stupid. How does any team have that? But the right side, I want to say Cernak was out of the lineup,

and they were like – they had like Bogosian and Chen, and I don't even remember who else. And they're winning Stanley Cup playoff games. well that's why i think it would make sense to talk to a team like i keep saying the coyotes but shalmerson could should be available he's ufa at the end of the year there's another coyotes defenseman that actually came up goal i think it's goligosky uh is he still there demers demers would be good like you know guys that are probably and you know what you know what arizona wants they're gonna want mid-round draft picks they're not getting first rounders for those guys but if

you could i mean god if you could swing a deal and i keep saying this he's got to be not injured sure would be great if um uh darcy kemper came back and was all of a sudden available yeah that's starting to seem like wishful thinking i know it's a bummer but so you look at their defense core here so you've got ekman larson who's signed there forever and ever amen golegoski who's ufa at the end of this year demers australia and uh lubashishka oh i think i know i think i know who you're talking about but without the name in front of me i have no yeah it's it's ilia anyways 26 ilia oh man i know it should be better but whatever um it's it's i mean you're part russian it's the

long weekend too right so i'm just i'm i'm out to lunch but i would say it's been checked out johnson's nude yeah baby but like okay so here's working harder hardly working boys if you're a if you're a hawks or an oilers fan i want you to like if if the leafs are looking for winger depth because they've lost boyd and they've lost vc even though i don't really think they need it could you not swing like a fully depth move could you not get uh if shalmerson is not injured because he's on the reserve right now and then say like a drake kajula oh but why trade for Drake Kajula Adam when you could get a Tyler Ennis for Tyler Ennis for free again on your boy is on waivers again I know hey um just saying uh I did want to say uh Shane Goss's bear completely

clear his waivers which we expected because of his contract um Steve can you kind of kind of quickly explain why he was put on waivers and and what that means for the Flyers other than taxi squad well the flyers suck so there's that um and like the devils just put uh nikita gusev on waivers and the devils suck so there's that uh both those guys i want to say make four and a half um and neither are bad players um gusev's having a bad season but he scored i think it was 44 points last year in i think 65 66 games and shane goss despair is i want to say he's kind of like tysonberry in that you're super not going to want to give him a ton of defensive responsibility that's probably not going to go great for you but he does know how to move the puck he knows

how to qb a power play and if you need that sort of player go for it um i think the fly would have had the Oilers not got Barry Goss's bear would be great yeah yeah it could work you know there's I'm sure there's some cap here and there but whatever it's the sort of thing that could work I think he needs an opportunity and a change of scenery because good players don't get crap overnight um and those players players like him tend to get exposed uh on teams that stink um like they look amazing on teams that are good and they look terrible on teams that are bad right there's no in between and what here's what i want to know here's the bigger story uh than shane gossespierre getting put on waivers because this is the season where you put multi-million

dollar players on waivers you know they're not getting claimed nobody's got any money who has the cap room to add a 4.5 million dollar player just willy-nilly randomly the real story here is How did the Philadelphia Flyers, who were the hottest team heading into the pause last year, how are they one year later just a bag of flaming garbage? Goaltending. What happened? Honestly, I'm beginning to think the Flyers are cursed.

After the year 2000, how many goalies has that team gone through? One season wonders. 20 brian elliott uh uh roman roman checkmanic the chick magnet the chick magnet who was that mike toth i think i would always wake up and even do his little one-liners uh the uh who else did you van beesbrook i think was there for a little bit uh after florida robert ash robert ash was there stanley cup final goalie michael layton what about steve mason was steve mason there oh you bet your bottom dollar it's like it's akin to the lineup of the amount of qbs the browns have had in the last 20 years it's crazy it's like it's where goaltenders go to die who

who uh ilia bobrovsky or sorry sergey bobrovsky yeah uh was was there i mean wait no no no ilia brisgalov you brisgalov oh wait a second no they did have bobrovsky yeah that's what i totally forgot they got pretty good Bobrovsky here oh yeah here let me let me find that one let me find that one that's a doozy and I have I don't think I've done that trade tree yet um thank you for reminding me to do it though because it sucks it's real bad it's real bad Bobrovsky uh Sergey Bobrovsky NHLTradeTracker.com Oh my god, the Philadelphia Flyers trade Sergei Bobrovsky

I'm pretty sure it was so they could keep Ilya Brizgalov to trade Bobrovsky to the Columbus Blue Jackets for it was three picks I want you to tell me what the picks were, like what rounds four, five

and six a third and a fifth well you're underestimating them because according to nhltradetracker.com it's a second round pick oh that the flyers used on anthony stallers a goalie who is no longer their goalie um a 2012 fourth round pick taylor lear and a 2013 fourth round pick they misspelled pick on the website and it doesn't even say who that player was so a second and two fourths for sergey frigging i'm pretty sure he went on to win the vesna more than once do you remember when brisgalov uh he had that press conference and he was like why you got to be mad is your name that was pre uh pre flyers why are you mad i like i like european goalies in uh in in press conferences especially guys from from russia or from like like dominic hasik

was always a very interesting pre-game or sorry like post-game interview because if buffalo lost like i remember there's one time in the playoffs where buffalo lost the game and this is when they were a monster team and he was a monster goalie and they were unstoppable and he's like well you know if we lose next game and we are out well at least we make it this far and and i'm like if that attitude had come out of a canadian in canada he would be kicked out of the country and and hasik who is easily the best goalie of his era easily oh like well at least we made it this far like i love it you know we play our games and we try we we try to play our games and we try to win the games that's what he's that's exactly what i missed i missed dominic hasik's interviews man

and lindy ruff just with a with his eye bulging out lindy ruff has calmed down considerably since his buffalo days he was torts before torts was torts i see it i see it really try to win the game and if we don't win the game is then we lost the game that's exactly what he would say i missed dominic perfect he was great man wow it was fun i uh my my buddy just casually was uh dropped a story he's like oh yeah i played table tennis against dominic hashrick really nice what is he's like a video editor for the sabers oh yeah like what huh holy shit like imagine just oh yeah played table tennis you've played quite a few nhl pros because of that uh the table tennis tournament they hold here every year because of smash fest now i wasn't playing table tennis as

much as i was uh standing in front of a table tennis player so we could shoot a video like my body's like competitive table tennis he's good i was just getting my ass kicked with poor jason davidson uh no jason dickinson sorry and um who is it brandon tanev was just smashing the ping pong ball right in my face nice it was not a it's not a fun night just brandon did brandon know who you were well i had i was wondering that because i had recently called him one of the worst free agent signings of the summer so i don't do that contract's brutal and he brings it has been pretty good you know what i don't hate as a player no no no no that was the thing like i don't think i called him a crap player all right bad contract it's yeah it's the contract right well and ruins

everything you know can can pittsburgh stop rehabilitating all of the bad defensemen in the league except for johnson who's not who was actually bad like like they're making us look bad on cody cc here but ottawa it's unbelievable ottawa ottawa fans know what they saw toronto fans know what they saw pittsburgh you just wait all right you just wait okay enough enough from you are we in the year the era this is the salary cap era where player where teams finally go all right let's stop making this player something they're not cody what would you like to do how do we make you better i do want to talk about that steve it's funny that you bring that up also 3.5 million dollars for brandon tana that's a lot of money for brandon that's not too bad

what's the term it's like five years it's six years six years okay for a guy who was like a career fourth liner up to that point maybe third tana is going to be a consistent top six forward for the rest of his career like that's that's all and then he'll drop down a little third line that's it it's not based off of don't look up his point total or whatever it's based off his don't look up his stats they're just stats if you look at what he was before the signing it was a bag of crap signing sure but i don't know why bag of crap is my crutch this episode but it is in winnipeg in winnipeg i really like brandon taniff as as your as your sixth forward he's he fills in to bring it back

to the Leafs, Brandon Tanev would fill in perfectly on that left wing slot on the second line. That gout slot right now, Brandon Tanev is that perfect player. He's the Kerfoot. He's the Kerfoot of any NHL team. Except he

can't really play center. But everyone's trying to trade Kerfoot. Exactly. So he'll play on a couple teams, but he's good. Brandon Tanev is the hill I will die on. That's that's an oof it's not what i expected but okay all right so by the way brandon tennep's nothing will ever be brandon tennep's photo from this year where he looks absolutely fucking

terrified yeah he's that's the that's the face he gave them when pittsburgh faxed them the offer and then rutherford's like i'm going to resign after this this is going to be sweet he couldn't it's like doug mclean sticking columbus with the cannon have fun suckers Ends up being a thing. Hey, uh... Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know, the same way you can skip an ad? I get it.

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put out a story about one patrick linea and the struggles that columbus blue jackets are having this season with turning patrick linea into a power forward one who blocks shots and throws hits it's kind of sounds like you want pierre luke dubois who by the way had a bit of an off night last night let's just it wasn't great well it started bad when he decked his own teammate and then oh god kind of got worse from there yeah but what are they doing man the whole the whole thing about the blue jackets going out and getting patrick linea beyond the dubois drama because they could have traded him for anybody they traded him for patrick linea right the whole story uh this finnish gm in yarmulke kalainen

goes and gets one of the best young finnish players in the world in patrick linea and he was a player patrick liney was a player that kekalainen wanted even at that draft in 2016 and you would think at some point over the last half decade yarmule kekalainen would have googled a story or two about patrick liney or watched a game or two of patrick liney maybe it's not that's the problem it's torts trying to make patrick line a who is extraordinarily patrick line a patrick line not everyone is them all the time you know what i mean patrick line is him all the time though patrick line is a person who is very true to himself and john tortorella gets every car that pulls into his garage he get he get hey you a volkswagen you a bmw you a ferrari

you a mazda 3 randomly you're all jeeps now all of you all of you a couple of you we need a couple dodge durangos but the rest of you are jeeps patrick line he's not a jeep he's never been a jeep i don't think he's ever gonna be a jeep why are you trying to make patrick line a jeep when i saw that headline like it's so rare that a headline does actually tell the whole story well what you didn't google the guy do you have any scouts did you think you were getting someone else like when the leafs got jeff finger and they were probably trying to sign kurt sauer that old story that's still one of the best stories in hockey history it's still an unbelievably it's wild that it's believable yes or let alone that

it might actually be true yes but what i'm sorry what did you think patrick liney was what did you think he did active stick at the oak leafs who's so funny this year he's like the accountant i hired can't even fix my plumbing he sucks it's patrick liney you guys yeah yeah it's patrick liney like like when dale hunter got the caps i want to say it was either to the third round or like they did well in the second round but they didn't quite make it but ovechkin could not frigging score well who won that little battle you think Dale Hunter hasn't been seen since yeah as a coach yeah Ovechkin resumed being Alex Ovechkin and won a cup and people go oh Ovechkin changed well I mean a bit but largely the caps changed around him my favorite part is when Alex

Ovechkin got back-to-back shutouts in game six and seven against the lightning like guys Patrick Laine is Patrick Laine he's a guy who's going to snore his way to 30 goals snore if you just let him and I guess he's not allowed well and so Steve you made a really interesting point earlier on in this season and I thought it was something worth watching as the season went on and you're the only one to my knowledge who's made this point I could be wrong but this is a really good one how does Columbus re-sign Patrick Laine if this doesn't go well that was the question at the time money okay money that they don't have money that they don't have they've lost Pierre-Luc Dubois doesn't want to be there what if other young player from the same draft says

yeah i don't want to be here either even if torts leaves if the mantra and the build of the team is a jeep team what's the mclaren driver gonna do i adam i i do not know i do and you know what could happen here is a thomas vanek situation uh the buffalo sabers lose danny briere uh-oh we don't like that because uh the philadelphia flyers gave him a shitload of money then they lose chris drury because the new york rangers gave him a shitload of money then the edmonton oilers offer sheeted thomas vanik and the sabers said that's enough and they're keeping them we're keeping them so the columbus blue jackets lost her temi panarin because the Rangers, they keep coming up, don't they?

Gave them a bunch of money. And they lost Sergei Bobrovsky because the Panthers gave them a bunch of money. And Pierre-Luc Dubois, I don't know. No one will tell us. But he's not there anymore. And I think at some point, someone far above Jarmo Kekulainen is going to go, you don't lose this one. And you have a blank slate to not lose this one.

and they're going to give him a shitload of money. And listen, Patrick Laine is absolutely the sort of player who might be worth that money. Thomas Vanek was like a 40-goal scorer when he got that contract. But you need to let him be him. Can I put out a theory on how the Columbus Blue Jackets could re-sign Patrick Laine? Sure.

By firing John Tortorella. Contract's up. They won't need to fire him. By letting him go, because the quote from Portsline's article from Tortorella says that I'd like to see line a go with go with the puck more. I envision him as an unbelievable, unbelievably skilled power forward. I'd like to see him bring some power into his game. And that's skating with the puck, talking, taking people on one on one. That's not his game. And then, so then they asked line a abouts towards his comments and they said, they asked

him if his attempts to change his game were playing a role into his slump. And line, I said, I don't know. It's hard to say. I've never really been a guy who's playing in the corners or behind the net too much. I'm usually the guy looking for openings where I can maybe receive the puck and try to shoot. That's what I'm good at, but you still have to do other things. So I don't know. That's a tough one to me.

that sounds like a guy who doesn't want to just say no to the media he doesn't want to say uh hey i don't play like that but in a roundabout way he did say it so if columbus can just not resign torts then maybe line a will be happy because there won't be a guy above him forcing him to play hockey how he's not good at playing hockey and like and columbus by the way sorry steve i'll let you go in just a second sure columbus is falling out of the playoff picture very quickly here oh yeah like tortorella isn't like wrong here like line eight wouldn't it be better if he did do all those things yeah probably like yeah if my lambo could haul 800 pounds like my my semi truck how come i can't put all this sod in the back of my lambo like like what the fuck

man like get a rent a fucking u-haul bro like we also forget we forget how young this player is because how good he is yeah like he's he was drafted 2016 was so he's been what is he 23 22 yeah it'll come entering his peak well and he's developed as well like he was kind of a young candidate like the kind of guy who gets 40 goals in tennises or something like that and then he developed as a playmaker that's that's an upgrade that's a development that's something he learned how to do better all this corner work and what the surround give him someone give him a hyman type or damn it jesse even a brandon tanev type give him give him someone who's gonna give that one the puck because that's what he that's what he's he's let max domi let max

domey feed patrick line or jack roslovich apparently is there like first line center just whoever's game complements that style like you're you're building a line like hockey is all about building lines that kind of work together you can't have the same guys doing the same thing on the ice you need a one guy who's gonna fill in those gaps and when somebody gets him the puck he's willing to shoot and line a uh i forget the number but he had he's averaging like two shots a game that's not his game he he needs to shoot more than that he's just get the puck on that and nobody's feeding him the puck because they need to go play like that one-on-one with big defensemen i want patrick lion versus alex petrangelo every time can i can i just throw

this out there everybody was shitting on the north division for being not very good the discover central division is three good teams dining out on five not good teams i want to tell i want to point out the goal differential from nashville on down to the bottom of the division because you got tampa you got florida and you've got carolina uh two with 50 and one with 49 points those are some pretty damn good teams good for them okay then you got nashville which is now in a playoff spot and this is what's so hilarious about the line deluded and hilarious that that because nashville is now winning it would set the wrong precedent to potentially move out some players for some assets on a team that is objectively not making it past the first round even if they make

the playoffs which they still probably won't adam you're gonna be so upset when they win a round look at the goal differentials here and this is what i'm talking about so tampa bay 124 goals for 85 against good lord florida 119 to 99 that's amazing on a team with brobrovsky playing as shitty as he's playing uh carolina 113 to 86 and by the way carolina has at least two games in hand on florida and one game in hand on tampa bay so they could be first by tonight who knows nashville number four they've got 39 points remember the next closest has 49 yikes nashville has 95 goals for 109 against oh hide with them but with less wins in the in the actual win category uh they've lost more in overtime that's why they're tied with nashville because that makes

sense the chicago blackhawks with 106 goals for and 115 against and then you got the columbus blue jackets who are in sixth place and everybody in columbus are going to be like guys they're only three points out of fourth uh wait till we get to dallas just a second um columbus 94 goals for 118 against and then you've got dallas who is by the way of those teams going to make the playoffs they have four games in hand on nashville chicago and columbus because they remember they had the covid protocols beginning of the season yes i get it they're 11 12 and 10 they have 10 overtime losses what yes now dallas has 10 overtime losses dallas is a very good team in the second last spot in their division dallas is going to the playoffs and their goal differential

is zero 91 for 91 against which isn't great but it's better than less than what i just gave you right rest of them yeah and then detroit is shitty and we don't need to we don't need to highlight that they know yeah they know they know that's the point um so the the point i'm trying to make here is columbus has fallen out of the playoff picture they got a coach who's on his way out if i'm yarmulke aligning i have to sell patrick line in columbus and i and it's not i don't i don't think portsy was wrong we had him on um he was talking about how great columbus as a city is and i'm sure it is i haven't spent a lot of time in columbus but why wouldn't it be great it's great um every city every nhl city you can find a very good reason to live there as a

millionaire because remember you're not living there as just a regular person every place you're living is as a millionaire and i think you can make it work you probably could you probably could okay so is there a bad place to be rich it's a good question i don't know but the problem with the blue jackets is they for whatever reason can't keep these young talents in town which brings us back to our original point patrick line is going to have to be sold on columbus and who is going to be sold on, forget the money. Because I think Patrick Laine in this economy is more valuable to other teams as a restricted free agent than he would be under contract, which is the exact opposite of what happened with Pierre-Luc Dubois, who signed his three-year contract just so he

could get traded. I think this offseason, Columbus's best route is either to trade him or to sell him on the city. If they can't sell him on Columbus and staying in Columbus long-term, then you got to trade him before you sign him because another team's going to want to be able to fit Patrick Laine in somehow, some way, and you don't want to have to make

the money decision for them. Jarmo's really tough on RFAs too. One thing I'll give him huge credit for. So I think in this particular instance, unless they announce a really great coach, I don't think you're selling Patrick Laine in Columbus. you don't need to be a great it's got to be bruce bruce boudreaux right oh he'd be good i think he'd be he'd be a good fit yes he'd be a good fit john tortorella for a number of years

has been like the perfect candidate to coach the what the columbus blue jackets want to be yes he is good at squeezing blood from a stone and getting four lines that play the exact same um line eight doesn't play like those guys he doesn't um he has not he might one day maybe torts is a genius and he'll get him there i don't think so i think he's going to continue to be patrick line a now and going forward and flirt with 40 50 goals every year um boudreaux i think is the sort of guy who will get him there boudreaux is the sort of coach who allowed Alex Ovechkin to be Alex Ovechkin for as long as he did and also got a guy like Mike Green, who plays defense, by the way,

30 goals. And you might be like, well, no, Mike Green didn't play defense. That was the problem. Yeah, but Bruce Boudreaux looked past it because he scored 30 goals. Let line A be line A. We bring it up once an episode, the last dance. You don't put a saddle on a Mustang. Patrick Laine, Dennis Rodman, same guy.

same guy the office meme hold up their pictures it's the same picture I see the same guy Patrick just moving on from Patrick Lennox we've got to get to Eric Carlson then quickly to the press conference McDavid and McKinnon both fined five thousand dollars within the last 48 hours that is the maximum allowable fine of the CBA if the players won one thing in negotiations and by the way this is the only thing they won besides guaranteed contracts they won the fine thing because what is what's the equivalent it's mcdavid makes like 12.5 million right right okay so after taxes and escrow and the fact that this is a 56 game season this is this math equation isn't right but without complicating it and making it less fun connor mcdavid makes 12.5 million dollars

against the cap he was fined five thousand dollars that is the equivalent of a person making fifty thousand dollars being fined twenty dollars wow so for mckinnon who's on the the best deal in the league oh it's like 40 it'd be 40 bucks man i don't know how he's gonna cope man it's a trouble that's an issue man that's a problem uh it's like uber eats for two or three also i thought depends how you tip i i know it was sort of dangerous and he shouldn't do it but the throwing of the helmet was a new one i've never seen that before in my life that was pretty cool that's the sort of thing it was a little funny that's the sort of thing where like as long as connor garland's okay it's instantly hilarious right it's it's also an that to me

was like the blue dress gold dress meme you know that thing where you looked the optical illusion if you go and look at that play and you just stare at nathan mckinnon it looks like he barely lobs the thing and if you look at connor garland it looks like he just friggin roy holiday right down the middle like just hucked it straight at his brain um i just that's a heat of the moment thing you hear heat of the moment in hockey a lot i wonder like what what person in the right mind does that i wonder if he was like put your helmet on so i can fight you right because now you have to keep your helmets on otherwise you get kicked off the ice nathan mckinnon i think is the sort of star who wants to fight because in the off season he boxes which i've mentioned a bunch of

times i think he's one of those guys who i think any person who does that they're like oh i do it for the fitness yeah but party wants to try it too eric carlson eric carlson uh has had a couple of interesting press conferences and the most recent the first one i think we talked about was i didn't sign here to rebuild like we did in ottawa for 10 years ottawa made the playoff six of nine years audible fans noticeably a little ticked by that uh but since there aren't many of them left um it really didn't create much of a firestorm oh wow now hey the sickos have an army how dare you how dare you i'm kidding uh but beyond that uh uh things have not gone well in san jose and eric basically you know what we said the last time was like hey eric if you want to

turn things around in san jose you should look at you because you're the 11 and a half million dollar player are you not yeah right you're the guy who's supposed to turn it around and you signed a contract with a bunch of guys who were all in their mid-30s already of the san jose sharks core eric carlson's the young one who's more excited for the expansion draft than the sharks oh man well what'll be interesting would you like an old guy i bet you would i think they're all on no trade clauses anyway now uh jesse you've got the audio from his most recent press conference where he is eating an apple yeah so for context uh that night carlson had a great game scored two goals and then the shootout winner where he clapped a bomb to so mean which is like against

hockey rules but like it was a lot of fun to see it so he was feeling himself in this press conference and the uh reporter asked hey uh was this one of the better offensive games you've ever had in your career and this is how it goes and in it he's eating an apple for some reason he decided to munch on an apple all right eric is that the best office game you've ever had uh two goals and essentially a hat trick when the game winner and the uh not even close who asked the question do we know i don't know i could uh to do no i could look it up but i don't know off the top of my head so like okay so you can't see the reporter asking the question but like when someone is speaking with warmth you know in their face you can hear it right you can

hear it in his voice eric was that the best uh i think he was kidding and i think carlson was kidding back but like that's a flex what and then jeff merrick has a very important question on twitter is that the most powerful fruit in that situation he was asking what's the most powerful fruit you could eat in front of somebody yeah like what is yeah to establish dominance right apples i think number one you can't just be like not even close and have like an orange slice yeah no or like a pineapple where you're just trying to get it open like how do i even cut this where do i yeah not even close and you're fiddling with it unless you go to whole foods and it's pre-cut for you you ever get an orange and you're trying to peel it and you're like oh it's one of those

ones shit not not even close and you aggressively bite into a banana a hard not the same oomph a A hard pear could do it. Hard pear could do it. A pear? A hard pear. Like one that's firm. You don't want a soft pear. But that is just like eating an apple.

It's like eating an apple. A pear. But it's bigger, right? Because your hands are bigger because you're an athlete. Bigger pear. You can hold a pear like the average person can hold an apple. That's a flex. What about like a bite of a burger?

No, that's not a fruit. A two-handed. It's not even calm. Just sitting there with some spaghetti, like twirling it on a spoon. Or you're cutting a stick. What should Carlson have been eating? Tweet us. Actually, in fact, you know what, Jesse, do we have any inventory we can give away?

What do you mean? Well, do we have anything that we can give away? Oh, like in terms of merch? Yeah. Yeah, merch. Yeah. Could we do a Photoshop contest where people take the still of Eric Carlson and Photoshop in different food and the best one wins? or the best three wins

or something like that. Can we do that? Best one. Best one. And it's got to be food. It's got to be food. Don't be gross. It's got to be food.

All right, so competition. We'll set up the rules and regs right now. Competition, you have to tweet at Steve Dangle at underscore Steve underscore Dangle

on Twitter at Jesse Blake at Adam Wilde on Twitter. You have to tweet all of us your Photoshop picture of what Eric Carlson is eating. He has to be eating food. Contest starts

when this podcast goes up and it ends on uh when the next one goes up so monday at 8 p.m 8 p.m there you go monday it's the most powerful fruit it is the it's like seven is the most magically powerful number apples are the most magically powerful fruit actually contest should end earlier so we can announce it on the next the contest closes monday at noon thank you can can we just take a minute for how jeff merrick's brain works no we can't take a minute we can't take a minute like the guy one one minute fucking like he's so fucking smart it drives me insane there's things he tweets i'm like

there's i could i could i could go to you multiple universities get multiple degrees and never would i approach that it's just wild he belongs to like uh i forget what it's called like a hockey historical society and i've told this story before but you know how people will put on like a dumb party movie like just to have on in the background you know when you can see people and they'll put on something like super bad super troopers whatever jeff merrick puts on like dvds of hockey games from the 70s i was watching a flyers bruins game from like 19 i don't even know what and then a rental car commercial comes on and it's oj simpson whoa yeah for hertz right he did the hertz spots uh something something like that he's i don't know

he's like running through the airport i think it might have been that one with the briefcase yeah and i'm just like who is this man whose house am i at that's crazy just lives a magical mystical life i think that's pretty much anybody that listens to the show's dream though isn't it like if you're like if that isn't that how you'd live your life if you were living your best life just throw especially you steve like i mean that is if mrs dangle would let you that's what you would have on at parties oh probably yeah and i would like invite roger clark who plays the voice of arthur morgan and just because i could just i'm famous and i want arthur morgan at my party and by the way if you want to check out something cool that's jeff merrick related that isn't uh 31

thoughts or what he does on sports net um he's on dan carlin's feed uh because he interviewed dan carlin when dan carlin came to toronto and it's an hour long and it's incredible it's so good i've listened to it three times so uh it's about dan has a book and so jeff kind of interviewed him about that anyway definitely worth checking out jeff also used to host uh live audio wrestling like way back like 10 a decade ago he used to run on like uh i forget which which station but He used to do a fucking radio show about wrestling and it was incredible. I want to just get Jeff Merrick and Ron McClain

in the same room and have them talk about nothing to do with hockey. A story off. Yeah. I want Jeff Merrick and Ron McClain to talk about wrestling in Alberta. Just wild, crazy. They could.

They could. They legitimately both could. Probably could make it interesting too. Oh yeah. Yes. And Ron McLean will make it about like some author from like the forties. Like, Oh, I just, I just want to hear it. I just want to hear what smart people say.

Unless I'm nuts. Ron McLean doesn't have a podcast. Does he? Cause he should. Well, I know he's got national television, but you like a free form podcast. Like he was so good when he was on with us. Ron should have a podcast.

No hometown hockey is kind of his playground, but no, he should absolutely uh have a podcast and they should just let him interview whoever he wants right probably nobody to do anything with hockey all right fair enough um and let's get in the press conference the steve dangle press conference all right uh one thing we didn't get to uh do you guys have any thoughts on thatcher demko signing five times uh five years for 25 mil yeah so you know some people were like oh 62 games of experience and i was like who else had 62 games of experience before signing their first big contract no adam i think it was vesa toscala actually if i'm not mistaken

not mistaken don't do that don't do that we're doing it we're doing that um no i uh thatcher demko has been very very good um five times five i believe is exactly the contract that freddie anderson got um i don't see a problem with it um and especially like going forward i mean five mil as long as he's good like i saw some people go well as long as he's good and i'm like well yeah no isn't isn't that the given in any signing in any sports you know like did anyone say that with Conor McDavid? 12 and a half. Well, as long as he's good. I think the question is, which Thatcher Demko are you going to get?

Are you going to get early season Thatcher Demko this year, or are you going to get the last couple of weeks Thatcher Demko? I think I'd say it's last month. Since the hot streak sort of began, the Canucks were shit. They were real bad in front of him. So was Thatcher Demko

though. He wasn't very good either. No, I think he'll end up being fine, and they'll probably expose Braden Holtby. he'll probably go to Seattle. You think Hopi will go to Seattle? I don't think they're going to take Hopi. They might.

No, I think they're going to make the Canucks keep him. They'll be like, ha, you like your cap? You like your cap? Well, you're going to keep it. I want to see the list of goalies who are eligible for that draft because there's always someone good. I mean, they could sign a free agent. One goalie on every team, right?

Who's got cap space at Seattle? Their current cap hit is $0. so they could go out and get a guy like Anderson imagine having a tandem of Anderson and Holtby you can make that happen it's not the worst it's pretty good you know what's going to happen

Seattle's going to the Stanley Cup Finals next year ride Anderson for the regular season and Holtby in the playoffs that's what you do oh you know what that sounds like a joke no that makes a lot of sense why not hey you know what else we didn't talk about quickly

before we get to questions i know you don't care but like dude the sabers won oh yeah yeah you know what hey they did all right they deserve it they deserve it i don't know everybody chirping them chirping the players online for being excited for winning yo what the fuck is wrong with you they lost like 17 games come on i kind of had a feeling i kind of had a feeling they were going to win this one because brandon montour's reaction was the funniest uh well no sorry second funniest was Rasmus Dahlien basically going we panicked

because he I'm paraphrasing him but he was basically like well we haven't played with the lead so so when they blew it against Philly I mean yeah they didn't know what to do because they hadn't done it in like a month and a half but Brandon Montour was like

you that can't happen this is the National Hockey League and it was like it's been Sabres, Sabres, Buffalo, Buffalo, the Buffalo Sabres and And there's something about hockey players. There's something about the National Hockey League. And when you stepped out of the team itself, guys, we're all in the National Hockey League. Every one of us is a National Hockey League player. This is fucking embarrassing. This is fucking embarrassing. Okay. I don't think any of us want to be here.

Do you want to be here? You want to be here next year? No. Okay. Well, right now we're here and we're in the National Hockey League. This can't happen. We can't lose 18 straights. We can't blow third period three goal leads.

What is going on? And then they went out there and they mopped the Philadelphia Flyers. And I know it's the Flyers, but they mopped them. and don't be surprised if the sabers actually do okay for the rest of the season okay by losing 18 straight standards right you know what i mean they might win two out of every five and that will be happy that'd be good two out of every five i think duane might actually kill a man if they didn't duane's not doing so hot he was like dude his i saw a few seconds of his uh little stream after the collapse against philly

oh boy and i'm like this is this is about an hour into the joker like this is his origin story this is the buffalo sabers are a joke and i'm trying to i'm tired of pretending like they're not and like i just i was ready for him to put on full face paint and a purple suit you didn't get that far though they won the next game and they avoid the record jesse what's our first question no i was just trying to bug you steve let's not make too much of the savories here come on now well here i'll put a bow on it i'm a losing streak is a losing streak uh but now that it's not the record yeah it's done it goes away forever you know what i mean it had it been the record it would have been a thing

it's a thing yeah you're right you become the hey take it from me you become the first team to cough up a three goal lead in game seven of a playoff series ah becomes a thing you become the first team to lose to an e-bug ah kind of becomes a thing that i get tweeted daily like you lose the record you're good steve are the leafs the first team to do that twice two game sevens drop drop three goal lead in game sevens twice because didn't they do it another year remember the bad gardener year no that was they were up one they were up one rightly they did they did blow it they they back to back game sevens in boston went into the third with the lead right and blew both they had a terrible third period i remember that yeah it

was pretty bad yeah that was probably the worst one that was the worst third period the worst full game seven was 2019 isn't it amazing that the worst third period was the one where they didn't blow a three goal lead that's how bad they were i like the three goal lead i look back on it now in that half season the leaf should have never been in it they would have never been they were playing with house money anyways that's why i don't feel so bad about that loss like i feel bad about uh eight years ago and it was yes and like i feel bad about last year's because you shouldn't get embarrassed like that year before as well uh like those i find those much more embarrassing than the boston three one the year before made me so mad yeah because you

had that and they're up three when they're up three two in the series you gotta close it out eventually and they were the better team through five games and then followed up with two pieces of shit yeah they really did it always comes back to the Leafs in our shitty history huh yeah so there you go I know I know all right we we promised this for for all the people out there listening today is opening day the Blue Jays last time I checked it was 2-2 versus the Yankees It's now 3-2. 3-2. 3-2-4.

The Jays. The Blue Jays. It's a soft J. It's the Jays. The Blue Jays. One thing I noticed looking up and down the roster, the starting nine, at least for the position players, not counting the pitchers, their everyday starting nine,

none of their players were born in the 80s. George Springer's injured. He was born in 89. but he's not in the lineup right now when he gets back in the one guy born in the 80s as out of their everyday position players that to me is so much fun for this jay's team it's young there's so much potential on it like if these guys if in even if it's not even this season if it's next season half of this roster reaches their maximum potential they're going to be so damn good and like going to this year if the guys just step up a little bit they'll be a wild card team easily

like i think i i'm i'm so disappointed that they're not in toronto like the pandemic's taking so much from the world but like the jays is also we gotta add to that list because the hype in the city around these young guys would be so much and like there are so many guys that the city would like um grab onto and you want to root for so i'm very excited for this jays here what do you guys think well and it matters seeing them and in a place that's cold like the beginning of the baseball season the first time i see the highlights on tv i'm like there's hope you know what i mean and i miss the commentary i miss the even the smell the smell of shitty skydome like i just oh give me baseball give me baseball so much and you make

a great point like we're talking about a city that still is shrouded in brett laurie jerseys that stuff needs to change he was no but he was a popular player because he was young and exciting yeah and then obviously they went through a pretty good few year stretch um but like biggio uh bichette vladdy like oh it's such an exciting team lords goriel yeah all those jerseys like i said all those leftover donaldson batista lowry jerseys those are gonna get swapped out for of the guys on this team like there's so much gonna be bichette's gonna be the one people like the most i think but guerrero jr kicked off the season with it uh i guess the garrett cole is the ace for the yankees uh and bichette or sorry uh vladdy hit a ball so hard it's the hardest hit

ball off of a garrett cole pitch in history 114 miles an hour off the bat so he hit it back harder then garrett cole can throw it and then on his second and third at bat he walked both times which is incredible on base percentage to start the year for vladdy who's lost 60 pounds that's incredible i had to look it up for my canadian friends that is a 183 kilometer an hour ball thank you oh my god that's uh i've never driven that fast crazy wild just crazy so it's you know what I think what I'm what I'm excited about with the Blue Jays is young and fun house money kind of like when they were in the wildcard game last year young fun I think the pitching staff needs another full year plus some additions like I don't think uh anybody is fooling themselves into

thinking that this is a pitching staff that takes you much more beyond the ALDS um but while you have it great and you got Ryu who's great you got a bunch of question marks after him like Tanner O'Rourke can he go 10 and 10 maybe uh you lost Kirby Yates for to Tommy John surgery which means he's going to be out till probably beyond next training camp or sorry next training camp but I think there's an opportunity there to just offense your way as far as you can go and that's wicked that's so much fun to watch if you're a non-baseball fan this is the year to get into the Blue Jays because they're the fun team to watch every at-bat somebody can hit a home run there isn't a single person in this order who hasn't hit like 15 at least in a series or sorry in a

season so it's pretty uh it's pretty incredible and when springer gets back it's gonna get that much more dangerous jesse to answer your question i'm freaking pumped awesome awesome adam can you do a quick history corner for us okay i don't know if you're if you're up on this information i'm gonna i'm putting you on the spot here but uh story at storytime hockey travis duncan wanted to know if you could talk a little about the suez canal and our favorite boat that just got dislodged do you know why that canal is so important to the world trade because we everyone was talking about that they're like oh my god this freaking freight is going to stop toilet paper production do you know a little bit about that can you talk about that in history corner

yes uh the suez canal is a canal that was based on an idea that a french engineer came up with in the 1850s uh although there was a canal previously that existed in that same area apparently that was built before the romans got there and then maintained by the romans and then when the roman empire fell um i think the mamluks took over in in egypt if i'm not mistaken and they were they've got a they had a weird setup but they they were not first off they were not native egyptians i'm sorry adam who mamluks they were the mammoths no the mamluks i thought this was history corner not zoo stories the mamluks were known for being incredible cavalrymen and i believe they fought on camelback i think and brilliance in the desert but i think that they

were um they were a if i'm not mistaken a slave culture meaning that they were technically enslaved to the ottoman turks who controlled egypt but the but egypt was given to the mamluks to kind of look after. So they were the governors of that and made money off of that. But they were still technically enslaved and had to do whatever the Ottomans told them to do. It's a bizarre setup. The whole Ottoman Empire thing, by the way, fascinating history, just a crazy way to run an empire. And they were dominant for 500 years. But beyond that, the Suez Canal was essentially an idea that a French engineer came up with. And I guess the idea was, you know, to get all the expensive, incredible goods from India to Europe at the time was almost impossible.

You had to go around the horn of Africa, which is right down the tip of Africa. It takes several months. It's very dangerous to do. The tides down there are crazy. In the wintertime, it's ugly, ugly because it's close to Antarctica, right? And you're sailing these like wooden ships. So it was basically sort of one of those ideas that like, well, if we could do this, um we could cut through the thinnest part of that land it'd be no problem we have a great shipping uh area kind of like what um the turks now and sorry the turkish people now and the ottoman turks had with constant yeah that's right yeah basically the uh the dardanelle straits i'm helping so long story short this guy brings it to the french government they're like you're

fucking crazy not a chance and they uh somehow some way he gets british money which back then the brits had all the money anyway uh and starts this and there's a whole bunch of stories about um first off you got to know that like 10 000 people unpaid workers dug this and it dug and then when that fell apart uh because that didn't get the job done um and there was almost like a a full on rebellion. Um, they actually brought in steam powered diggers and started digging it out. Um, and I believe in the 1890s it was completed. And the reason that really the English, the British empire at the time took such an interest in Egypt was the Suez canal because it was them and their money and their investment that finished it. The French part of it was

interesting for a whole completely different type of reason, but there was entire governments fell because there was a whole Ponzi scheme associated with how it was financed when the French had control over it. So the British seeing an opportunity were like, wow, we can control literally the most important trade route in the world. And it gets us directly to our colonies in India. Yeah, we're going to take it. So they sort of just took Egypt from the Ottoman Empire in the late 1800s. They're like, this is going to be ours now. I mean, it's technically yours, but we're the protectorate. So we're the military muscle in the area. And so the Suez Canal became in World War I and World War II, probably one of the most important shipping routes in the world

anyway. But it became like Hitler's main target in the Middle East was the Suez Canal. The Ottomans' main target in World War I, when they were allied with Germany and Austria-Hungary, was to take the Suez Canal. Because if you cut England and India off at that point, England starts to starve. And it's an incredible, it's got an incredible history and obviously is a a major part of uh egyptian commerce now um but the suez canal to this day remains the most important that and the um the panama canal in north america are two of the most important canals in the entire world because they're the ones that allow us not to go down to the south of america like south america and south africa essentially to get our trading done and it's a huge huge thing

so i don't know what the hell happened with this boat but apparently they drove they they drew like a penis on the board or something with their navigation. It can't be why. I don't know. I don't know what's happening. They're going to investigate this and who knows if we'll ever know the real answer. What's it called again? Evergreen or

something? I don't know. The thing was those boats, those shipping boats now are so big. I don't know if it's Photoshop but the picture of that little backhoe next to the boat. Not Photoshop. Real picture. That's

unbelievable yeah yeah yeah okay here's what i want to know how many boats in the world are bigger like how many boats in the world right now are bigger than the titanic like there's no way titanic was bigger than that boat right oh yeah no no no most cruise boats are are 10 times the size of the titanic that's hilarious yeah titanic was big for its time but uh in fact 12 or whatever yeah but like the titanic now would be a pretty small ship really yeah oh wow yeah yeah like i most ocean going vessels are much bigger than that because frankly if you're gonna put i know something out on the ocean uh it's got to be a bit shorter it can't be like the long boats we see on the great lakes like they have big long shipping container boats you can't do

that in the ocean because they'll snap in half but the they're just bigger and burlier and they sit you know how high cruise ships sit like titanic sat kind of low the cruise ships sit really super high um those are the kinds of ships that tend to do well they're not very long but they sit high so that way the swells don't you know wash up on the deck as much and etc etc it's crazy the the whole very little is known by about like how our shit gets to our stores but there's some pretty dangerous stuff still happening when you have to cross the atlantic or the pacific and people just don't know about it's so true because it's like oh this thing came from from asia and it's just here right you don't you don't really think about how they got it from one side of the

world to the other and it's constantly happening with millions of items just all around us all the time and that in indonesia yeah yeah yeah oh i guess they flew it over no they didn't they shipped it and it's when they ship like those pacific shipping lanes are not for the faint of heart that is a scary big piece of water and it takes a special kind of person to want to be out on that for most of their lives because that they're out there for like a month imagine even something like the internet most people don't know that there are fiber optic cables running across the ocean so you have internet yeah like they have to cable that it's not just oh it's through the air yeah people are sending things everywhere they often say that if there was

another world war assuming there was no like mega bombs dropped um the first thing that would get cut is those fiber optic cables and and and then you your internet is essentially cut off from europe at that point i think it's wild those yeah that's nuts and like people don't believe you but like you know how you can get wi-fi on planes now that's because every plane has like a little cord that dangles all the way from the plane to the surface and they just they have to reroute to not like hit anything yeah and that's also really important steve so the planes don't float out into outer space right it keeps them tethered to earth yeah yeah ingenuity yeah brilliant human anyway the suez canal very very important i would highly suggest you look it up um just because it's

the stories around it are absolutely fascinating um it created britain's empire and you a lot of people argue that it ended britain's empire as well when uh egyptian people said um can we have our country back please for the first time in like a thousand years that'd be great thank you so much appreciate it for the first time and the ship was called ever given by the way ever given so everybody's yelling at their

phone or podcast or whatever no it's not no it's not the more you talk about history and like the more things we learn about the earth it just feels like the society itself is just kind of like on the edge you know and just at any moment it could fall either way

yeah we're dangling we're just dangling we're building this thing people like like they look at the roman empire and they think you know what that could never happen to us and like what happened to you know especially the western roman empire and it easily could the you know rome was maybe it's only it was the only superpower of its day but they still fell and there are you know china's a superpower united states is a superpower india is becoming a superpower um these these empires these mega empires whether it's a landmass empire or an economic empire like what the united states has and what china has they fall they rise and they fall and uh it's like the pandemic we're living in like what was it there's the clip of obama in what was it 2016 mentioning like hey we

gotta boost our pandemic things because like every hundred years there's a pandemic and you're just going about your life you're like oh that was the people in the 20s you know that happened to them we're good and then it happens to you yo i remember the entire human race you want to you want to talk about pure ignorance jesse i remember growing up and thinking racism was a thing of the past or i legitimately or was like not like society-wide do you know what i mean like a bunch of crazy people down in like the southern united states are still racist but the rest of us are good well in toronto's especially yeah right yeah yeah that's what happens when you don't grow up as a person of color well interesting isn't it it's that was one of those things where

i i feel like there might have been good intentions there but it backfired you know what i mean you because they wanted to instill a pride in multiculturalism right but then that pride also made a lot of people and probably for a period of time myself included think ah it's just not an issue here yeah why are we bothering with this we've already dealt with it racism is done yeah guys that was that's why we we learned this year especially that ignorance is not uh it's not the way you should be living you know you need to learn about these things and they happen you can't just can't just live ignorantly you know there was a um uh it's so i wish we could dig it up now but john stewart when he was still on the daily show um which is a millennium ago

I know. I know. It's too bad we didn't have him for Trump. But the one of the pieces that he made fun of the most that I don't think got as much play at the time as it should have was Fox News sending out a correspondent to do a story on how racism was over. and this was 2014 or 2015 and and john like you know the look he would always give the camera like that like stunned surprise yeah and i miss it but this is before black lives matter this is any of that and obviously you know john was a hell of a lot smarter than the average person but it was very funny to have uh the i think it was who was the guy that had um there was a few spinoff shows from that there was um obviously john oliver and it was larry what was his name tannenbaum no there was another no there was another guy who was no he's very very funny comedian wears glasses and he had a show on comedy central after john's show and it was

unfortunately canceled anyway long story short he kind of looked at john's like this is you can't make this up and then of course trump starts running like a year later and it's just it's very very funny to go back and see like fox news had the audacity to say you know this racism thing it's essentially done ah yeah it's crazy it's fine anyway uh other questions jesse uh trevor noah is that who you're thinking of no not trevor no i don't think adam would have got larry no uh prepper larry um um uh what is his name i've been looking up people who are an episode once oh steve corral and uh steve and uh steven colbert used to be they used to duel on that show that's how big that show like so much talent came out of that show

what was the show they were on together where they um were two guys who worked at a restaurant but they hated food they ever see that sketch no i don't think i have and it's literally it's the stupid it's the dumbest thing ever they're both waiters but like food makes them sick and like they're literally just making themselves fake vomit the whole sketch and for some reason because it's those two it's the funniest thing ever really i don't think i've seen it larry wilmore larry wilmore i think larry wilmore was the guy that came on and said john i just want to present to you fox news says racism's over and then they cut to this i i swear to god this happened so they cut to the couch i know him yeah yeah and so they cut to the couch and fox news has

at this point one black reporter and they have him sitting on a couch with the fox and friends morning show and he's and he introduces the fox news segment because he because he as the black fox reporter would be able to say that racism is in fact over and does the thing and the whole you could just see everybody kind of go oh my god is this really happening and it's something that really happened i remember it it's crazy and that was the end of it that was the worst we did and we everything's fine now oh boy yeah no still no fuck it's crazy anyway by the way the town we get here i don't know i don't know either i don't know either uh one last i mean 2021 like not this conversation sorry uh final question it comes from zander zander on twitter

do you guys plan on watching the mighty duck series that just premiered i believe it's on apple apple plus why not he's gonna check it out i'm not okay here's where i am in my life i don't watch series on my own. I don't. I speak to one frigging person! I only speak to my wife, and I watch what she's watching. And right now she's watching

Superstore, so that's what we're watching. Mighty Ducks can wait until after Superstore. So when Mrs. Dangle decides to watch The Mighty Ducks, you'll check it out on Apple+. Yeah, and if she doesn't, then I'm not watching it. There's also one on Crave called

Beartown, which is also about hockey. it's uh it's about like a year it's a swedish hockey league i think it is i read the book oh you read the book is it good the audio book yes it is good you're gonna check out the series on crave i might i might i also like it was long enough ago that i kind of forget what happens and there's also a sequel and i haven't read that yet it's good it's not the lightest read but it is good adam are you gonna check out either of the hockey series that are running right now the mighty ducks one i'll check out yeah i like the idea of emilio just being a guy who runs a hockey rink and doesn't like hockey how dare you how i like how they're just running out

what the mighty ducks was well yeah it worked why wouldn't you do it again yeah i guess i guess it's hey what if we did star wars but three times yeah no like you mean nine different movies no i mean the same three movies three different ways three different decades three times 100 works all right uh other one last question jesse got now that was the last question all right well there you go so guys listen i like that steve liked it so we hope you did too all right i gotta say something like can i just say something we have been giving steve a hard time lately and i want i want to remind everybody yeah we'll just do two stories and stuff like that i don't know um and i just want to remind everybody that we wouldn't bust steve's balls

like this if if he couldn't take it okay this is how we this is how we play let us have our moment no no no you shouldn't let the internet know that let them assume that steve when the podcast ends he drives to our houses and punches us in the face let them think that well i that would require him leaving oshawa which would never happen why would it why would he leave the greatest place on earth why would i went to sports net for the first time uh it was yesterday or the day before since March 11th, 2020. Wow. What was that like? It was bizarre.

That's not true. You went in to film the It's On video. That was... CBC. That was the CBC building. I haven't been to the actual Sportsnet studio. The CBC building where they also have Sportsnet studios. It's different.

Oh, I went to a different building. It's different. You see? You see, wasn't I in the middle of a fucking apology? Saying you guys are nice to me? Were you at Mount Pleasant or 4th Street Entrance? Was it different? Different buildings?

Is your card still work there? No, it did not. And let me tell you, that led to a pain in the ass. Yeah, the card thing at the Mount Pleasant office is a pain. Steve used to work at SportsNet and Jesse and I would still have to sign him in because he didn't have a card.

You were an employee on hockey night on Wednesdays and they wouldn't let you in the building. You were the C-chair in ice surfing and you didn't even have a thing. It wasn't even that. It wasn't even that, man.

You were the Q-chair on ice surfing. We had a guest every week and I spoke, I think, twice. I talked to Edge. I don't know. Actually, it might have just been Edge. I don't think I had any others. The funny thing was

that CJ didn't have one either. Yeah. We had to sign him in too to come on his show at Sportsnet where we used to broadcast in the Fan 590 backup studio. And one day I just stopped having an email and I haven't asked for it back.

Don't. You don't want to fill out all those surveys. No. Imagine the freedom. Okay, think of your work email. Okay, imagine one day not having it. It's great. Way to be.

Nice life. It is a nice life. Adam, it's your responsibility to wrap us up. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Have a fantastic long weekend. Happy Easter to you and your family. If you're in a lockdown zone, please don't see your family in person.

As hard as that is to say, if you are in Florida and nothing matters, then good for you. If you're in Texas, please attend the 50,000 people home opener today. 50 000 people are there stadiums full no okay however like in new york right now if you're over the age of 30 you can get a covid vaccine in toronto we just got that age lowered to 60 six zero so we're a little behind yeah but you know what doug ford said folks into the camera

and i felt better yeah well anyway long story short we made it so far wherever you are without I love you. Happy Easter. Jesus has risen. Unless for you, he hasn't. And I hope that you have a fantastic, wonderful, long weekend and enjoy. We should have wrapped like 10 minutes ago. We should have, but we didn't.

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