The Steve Dangle Podcast - April Jar | September 13, 2024

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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all right so corset clubhouse live next saturday night i had my wife text message me on her way home uh the day that the show was posted our last show on wednesday and she was like hey your corset clubhouse date you announced it as friday it's saturday and then she followed it up with uh Oh, no, wait. They corrected you. Oh, my God. She's a typical commenter. I don't know why you said Friday.

What was going on there? I don't know. I just, you know, I just wasn't. You know what's been going on, honestly, is that I haven't been sleeping the greatest because my daughter has entered a stage where she is getting nightmares every night. And I looked into it, and it's apparently good because it means that their brain is progressing. But it is messing with my sleep. And so I'm – she's cool.

like she usually goes right back to sleep but then it takes me about 20 25 minutes to get back to sleep and so i'm a little bit like i'm in a different phase where leo lies about his dream what's he lie about before he goes to bed he tells us what he's gonna dream about oh that's good and then in the morning he lies and says it's what he dreamed about and i'm like no you didn't and he always tells me it's about the least winning the cup oh leo's learned to lie or like a lot right he's at that phase yeah but he's shitty at it four so bad at it course at clubhouses in saint catherine's five hd golf simulators and 40 real courses and many others obviously jesse's gonna have his longest drive competition odr hockey heroes the indie hockey game that we've

been supporting for over a year now are gonna be there so you can test it out uh still in beta phase there but so cool uh tickets are officially live they're 20 bucks and the food is amazing and it's just going to be a great night it's always a fun time now uh moving on to uh what what we're wearing i wasn't going to start with this but then steve and jesse walked upstairs with these this morning and they are our cap friendly jerseys our good friends at cap friendly uh sent us sent us customized jerseys look at these yeah um dangle wild blake yeah and they just i they just sent them over just to say thank you um they're the best just in case you were wondering how great the cat friendly guys are this is how great the cat friendly guys are move me to tears man and

steve you have to take your jersey off because i showed off brad mug that jesse made how great is that brad mug and steve's got a brad shirt yeah and an lfr mug too by the way buddy merch Merch! Merch! Merch! Merch! When does your LFR notebook arrive? Soon.

It's the only thing that hasn't come yet. Is there an LFR notebook? Buddy, yeah. I don't know why Jesse made it, but I'm happy. We talked about it on the show, Adam. Yeah, talk about it again. Oh, guys, come on. You're asking me to remember what day our live shows are?

I bet you could talk about it again. What we talked about on the show? What is this? Come on. Do you guys not know me after 12 years? By the way, this is our 12th season. I should say that, too. Did you guys know that?

No, I didn't. Yeah, this is the beginning of our 12th season. Depends on how you count it. It's 13, I think, technically. Technically 13. Because the show started in the springtime. Yes. So that's got to be season one.

And then season two came off in the fall of that year. Oh, OK. Yes, because season one was a short run. Yes, it was the pilot run. 2013 playoffs? Yeah, it's the pilot. So technically, the way the episodes are counting, this is season 13.

It's like The Office. They had like eight episodes in the first season. And then they went to like 22 or something like that. Yeah, right? That's how you count. if we're counting every september refresh i do i sure do maybe 13 so we're in season 13 how about that um now guys uh it's great that we have the brad merchandise because uh our man who tree lives tree loves and tree laughs spoke to the media yesterday and he had plenty of plenty of stuff

to say but it seems like he has taken a um a note out of the lou lamorello book of i'm gonna say a bunch of stuff and it's not going to mean all much all that much so september ass quotes so here we go with some september ass quotes you guys ready all right so on max patcher ready's role with the team so we said this is this part actually is actually interesting a little bit of background we brought max in probably about a month or three weeks ago for a couple of days uh he was very open to not only going through a medical exam but also getting on the ice for us to see where he was at he feels he's had a couple of years two and a half years where he hasn't really had an opportunity to train. Uh, it, it has been, you know, rehab for him. He came back

last year, jumped in sort of halfway through the season. And at the end of the year, he felt like he wasn't where he wanted to be physically. So he's had a full summer of training. We'll see our expectation is that he is going to come in and give us more depth. All of that stuff is, you know, trying to sort itself out in camp. Uh, I know we all get excited when we see guys added, we are trying, what we were trying to do is make the roster as deep as possible. and this last quote i think is very important my expectation is that he is going to be with us but everyone has to earn their spot here whether that is on the roster or or playing with whoever they're playing with it gives us a lot of different options he's worth a shot like yeah is it gonna

work out is it gonna i don't know but it's worth a shot like so he says two years right he feels like he hasn't two and a half two and a half so last year four goals 23 points in 47 games the year before three goals in five games which is actually quite nice right uh but he only played five games yep that's it the year before his last season with the golden knights 19 goals and 37 points in 39 games and again the games played is a problem yeah it's a big problem but that's essentially a point of game player the season before same issue 48 games although i think that was the shortened season which means he would have still missed eight games but in 48 games 24 goals and 51 points so this guy when he's healthy and in the lineup his last couple years in vegas uh

was a point of game player i don't expect him to be that it's not reasonable to expect him to be like oh fixed everything's fine at his age the ripe old age of 35 gonna turn 36 an 88 baby just like jesse oh what he's what we're the same age as max patch ready hey technically older yeah wow yeah that's pretty crazy that's pretty cool um but uh if i mean if he can get to 0.5 0.6 that's a great ad if he can chip in we keep talking about robertson and what i tell you was like 0.54 exactly like robertson's gonna chip in like if he can get to 20 goals if robertson and patch ready are hovering around 20 each it's all now one might take the other spot so that's a bit of a a potential issue that i could see on the horizon um you know how how is

he defensively after the achilles issues and everything but it's a flyer like you're taking a flyer on a guy it's fine jesse i it's gonna be interesting because a lot of caps fans when the signing happened they they were being like yeah woo Leafs took him he was one of our worst players in the playoff Ian Olin was brutal yeah yeah but like I I wonder if you asked Max if he'd be like yeah yeah no no that's that's that was the point I was getting to so when it happened a lot of the cast fans were like yeah he's not coming back and good luck Leafs he was the worst but you have to take it with the context of everything you just outlined there in that he had an achilles injury that held him up for a couple years and now he's finally having a full

off season where he's able to train at the full extent that max patch already trains at and adam you would know from alan walsh about how seriously patch already takes his training and it's a guy who can't do that stuff because of an injury and he's not good anymore in actual hockey and during the playoffs and everything now it's a different player we got to be evaluating oh during the playoffs yeah he wasn't good during the playoffs but it's because what do you did like are you are you specifically talking about max patriots ability to be good in the playoffs for the leafs i don't i don't know i was evaluating his performance oh no i don't we made it this far no that was such a stretch that was a stretch no i wasn't because i wasn't april jar i brought one

it's okay april jar no but i was talking about the previous april with max patch already in the capital so i don't think that's what i was not leafs playoff yeah we know we know april i think i think this didn't apply at all for the he wanted it so yeah that was such a stretch you wanted to wait until the least conversation don't worry i brought more than one dollar i have stuff coming up that could have put you there hey by the way um uh cj reported on wednesday that there was mutual interest between jvr and the leafs uh for a reunion and the leafs ultimately went uh with patch ready now also no one listening knows what you did that's not true he brought out he brought out a jar that says april jar on it because i suggested last episode

that i was going to start one and then steve took the initiative no i think the debut was really good it's great i think it was really good yeah no i think we're in the first 10 minutes of this show are already already amazing uh leafs could have brought back jvr or max patch ready and they chose match max patch ready um and i have to say like given the type of player because i know there are people who you know there's nostalgia factor is a factor here um given the type of players that both of those guys were at the best points in their career and are now i think they made the right call in theory and i say that because it's not because i don't like jvr i freaking love jvr i'd love to plant his ass in front of a goalie on the power play again and have him just hit pucks

in the way he used to because he was crazy at it and it made the Leafs power play deadly but his skating at the best of times was never great no and if he is not going to play a top six role I struggle to see where he slots in because I don't see unless unless he turns into like Jason Spezza flying knee I don't see him being like a guy who's who's gonna knock skulls together do you know what I mean yeah I mean 11 goals 38 points in 71 games like it's good numbers yeah numbers um I just see uh you can bring in JVR and he could potentially like I feel like his floor at this point in his career is higher than Pacioretty's Pacioretty's floor is he doesn't play for you right um but Pacioretty's ceiling is higher does that make sense yeah there's more

potential in it there's more potential there if he doesn't make it well especially for a team that wants to be a little bit more mobile than I think they were last year I think goes undersold how slow this Leafs team was. It was not a fast team last year. There are fast players on it, but they don't set up quickly and they don't move the puck quickly and they're very intentional

and very obvious and teams who are actually good, you know, regular season teams, it's like, ah, well, they might not take you to task for it. In the playoffs, you get found out quick. What is it?

No, that's not how it works, Steve. It's not just any mention of the playoffs. It's a mention of talking about, hey, the Leafs in the core four of the playoffs, and this is the result of it. That's what the April jar is for. Put that April jar away. I'll put it away.

Anytime you talk about the playoffs, I'll put it back. Back to what Brad Treliving was saying, this time on Nick Robertson. A reporter asked him, hey, how'd you sell Nick Robertson on this situation? And he said, it is not a sell. A lot gets made of him. You ask him, but Nick has gone through some stuff here, right?

Some of it's been injury related, and sometimes with young players, their game is still evolving. i have a good relationship with nick we talked throughout the summer and you explain here is the situation and everybody has to earn their stripes i like nick he shoots it in the net you have to do other things too you have to round a great line that's a great line you have to round out your game you have to be a complete player but it is a fresh clean slate with a new coach and a new opportunity so clearly this is less of a leafs thing more of a sheldon keith thing i hope i first of all i think you're right second i hope nick uh thinks carefully about

what he's gonna say and at the first opportunity uh runs for a camera and and says his piece and makes good because some fans are still salty about it and and i understand i get that i get it but he's here yeah i also get i also get why you're like hey man give me a shot and you're also not you guys aren't scoring goals in the playoffs and you're gonna scratch me in game seven what the hell uh okay that okay that i'll give you i'll give you that drop it in the air i get that i get that um we're gonna donate a lot of money to easter seals here this is gonna be crazy um yanni on yanni hockenpah gentlemen i'm gonna make change unless you got more to add i'm gonna take that loony put it in a toonie all right unless you got more to add on uh on nick robertson i

wanted to move to yanni hockenpah who by the way we had a nice little uh tiktok moment go viral because you calculated that there was $333 left for the cap. There was. Well, that's wrong. Yeah, but... Because Yanni Hockenpah signed for $30,000 less than we thought he would. Yes, so they have $33,333 left. I thought it was $30,333.

No, because you said... Oh, no, it is $30,000. Ah, ah, yeah, $30,333. So Yanni Hockenpah signs for $1.47, and here's what Brad had to say. obviously there was a bit of a delay with yanni we had yanni in town earlier this summer for a bit of time our performance staff went out there two three times it was him going through rehab to the point uh where he and we felt confident we'll see how it goes this is certainly there is certainly always a risk for any person coming off a knee injury he has put in a lot of work

uh i think he had surgery and a scope on his knee in march we went through the healing and the rehab and he is doing well the leafs are heavily leaning on their sports science department this year right well they've invested a lot of money maybe they should yeah yeah you got to take risks i said this in my patch ready video like they've prolonged a bunch of careers like we tyler ennis is one that sticks out yeah like we we talk about robie doll and that was a famous example of them being like ah you're retired you're retired you're done yeah but they've also prolong some careers not just guys who have dealt with extensive extensive injury issues like tyler anis but you know some a lot of older guys have been like i could play there yeah because i my

body needs a lot of work right now and they're the team to do it am i mistaken do you guys remember a story where somebody had come to town too early and trained with performance staff and then other nhl teams got mad about it oh are you thinking about yeah when they were my conflating two things When they added the rule because the Leafs were like flying guys around, that sort of stuff? I think you might be conflating two things because it was a prospect. Like they on their dime flew a prospect and teams were like, you can't do that. Because we're cheap. Yeah, and they shut it down.

Well, the way the Leafs have been running their performance department in that like, hey, they're investing all this money into it. That's how you exercise your power as a big market team who makes all the money because there's a salary cap. Everybody can only spend the same amount of money on the players. so the Leafs are doing the right thing by we're rich let's spend it in the ways we're allowed to spend it and I think it's really smart of them and even like recently last year John Klingberg like in his back yeah it was now it didn't work a plane ride ruined it for him but he comes and he plays in Toronto because he knows he's going to get that support and yes back didn't have the support to hold up but um that that's how you as a big market team you say we're gonna be better

than the teams that don't spend this money hawk and paw to me seems like a better example of how it should work and like there were still things wrong with the klingberg signing like if this is a hey maybe it'll work out signing you don't give them 4.5 million dollars no no no right uh no that was step on robbie dot yeah like let's say hawk and paw plays like 20 games for the team it doesn't work out it's one year 1.47 yeah it's fine you'll live it's fine that's that's not anything where you're like oh we missed out on a guy because we spent all this money on hawkball clingberg that's four million dollars it's a big consideration yeah it's a big consideration yeah yeah any of those guys uh hawk and paw patch already you know go through the lineup

i think it'll be okay i remember watching i think it was either global or tsn back in the day because global used to have uh significant global in canada games used to have leaf games all the They used to have all the, like, a lot of Raptor games, too. Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely. No, I'm wrong about that. I thought the, no, no, the owner, I thought the Aspers who used to own it, I thought they were part owners in the Raptors, too, but I'm not sure, so don't quote me on that.

It's fine. I do know that, I remember they did a story on the doctors that went to the game and looked after the players if they were injured, and they did a story on this doctor who was quite well-renowned here in Toronto, and he had a day job. and and like he was he would show up at the game at night and he's just like you know i i have a wife i have kids but like i really love this and they understand so i'm here every home game and i just think about the difference that was probably when i was 12 or 13 you think about

the difference here 20 25 years later where it's like you know you have dedicated performance staff they went to school for this and this like this guy was like a pediatrician right it's like oh, you hurt your knee, put some ice on it. Now, that is actually still the case today. For the guys that are in the game? I don't know if he still does it, but there's a member of the Leafs medical staff or training staff or whatever staff

who has a private practice. I've been to see that. That I can see that. I can see that. He fixed my shit. It was good. That's great. But what I mean is he wasn't relying on the Leafs to,

you know what I mean? Like, that guy probably doesn't need it if the Leafs are probably paying well for good talent. I think Adam's point is that we've come a long way with the investment in the medical staff that sits around the game. Like, you would be the side hustle. The Leafs are not the side hustle. Right. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Well, Yannick Perrault, he's been out for a couple of weeks, but we've applied an adequate amount of leeches. Yeah. And we think we've solved the problem. It's a shame the in-game staff kind of still works like that. like the 50 50 ticket sellers who are walking the concourse they just are regular people day jobs and like the dance crew and all that stuff in the ice pack like they don't get paid enough to this is their full-time job but i guess it makes sense there's only 41 dates but you'd like to see full-time dedicated uh people doing that kind of stuff i mean i dallas cowboy i don't know if you

guys watch the the dallas cowboys thing cheerleader thing on netflix but like that kind of opened my eyes to like oh they're really getting paid nothing here oh yeah they didn't disclose all the salaries but all of those the girls are doing that are just doing on like pennies you know just for the exposure the the asterisk for my guy it's like all right you have two months where you can see him and then after that like nah it's he's not he's not here you might see someone else we recommend someone else but like no he's here for two months he only works like the private practice yeah that's what i mean you were the side hustle yeah right yeah uh so i i uh i wanted to do one more here and it's on easton cowan uh and i love brad's quote on this even though it doesn't really

tell you all that much he said he's a competitive player a dog on a bone really good player which is what you want in your top prospect you want them to be really good uh he's a young player too and you want to make sure you're putting him in a position to succeed and are not rushing the process whoa you see he is excited to get going this week uh he will be excited to camp that is why you go through an exhibition in training camp we will see where he is at very shortly here and obviously john gruden not nfl's john gruden but the ahl marley's john gruden who is also a head coach fucking weird uh that that's that there's two guys named john gruden who are coaches at a professional level uh john gruden marley's is uh is saying that yeah he looks really good and that

he's taken a step and looks strong and i don't know it's september so everybody's like we could win the cup but i i still like that i love the hope of september there's not a whole lot of man he looked like shit no there isn't there isn't it's not a whole lot of that i saw someone um there was a picture of alexander ovechkin floating around and someone's like oh man he's looking heavy i'm like is this your first time is this like if he is well generally he is a fridge do me a favor and google him like what are you what are you talking he walks around pretty heavy yeah yeah that's what he does all the time living weight yeah it's fine it was like when when people be like oh bufflin does not look and like but dustin bufflin's like he's fine cigarette down

it's like yeah you you wait yeah don't worry i'm good yeah you know ryan reeves was looking kind of built the other day it was crazy it's a shame on him yeah i hope they let him do interviews with his shirt off like he wants well yeah yeah hey great point um also i think doesn't reeves have good tats like he's good yeah yeah he showed them off a couple times in those uh was the blueprint of the youtube series yes on the leaf's youtube channel when they're in the locker room he's like shirtless and stuff he's fucking just yoked islanders fans i'm gonna bring this up one more time if there's any behind the scenes stuff with pierre engvall watch watch him in the background definitely no shirt and watch how he claps he's flexing well he knows he knows where

every lens is aisles fans you owe it to us to send uh to send us clips when you see it it's going to happen 100 you owe it to us you must look out for that um sam reinhardt guy who scores goals and hangs out with sdpn at all-star all the time with pepsi all the time this is not a paid sponsored post but it was at all-star um sam reinhardt on anthony stallers who the leafs have signed and by the way we've talked a lot about the left wing i did a little deep dive on anthony stallers this summer and i think there's a lot to be excited about with this player dude and it is september but he's a six seven goaltender who was at a really high save percentage last year led the league led the league he led the league and save percentage minimum 25 five ish starts

yeah and uh and so here's what reinhardt said he has a good chance to be that goalie him h.i.m uh for the organization that they've needed he was unbelievable his personality off the ice is top notch something anyone would want in the room i'm excited to see that happen for him as a person you know if joseph wall goes down with an injury they're gonna have to call up probably dennis hildeby and then their tandem is both going to be six foot seven it's gonna be absolutely no man i i keep saying and people weren't receptive to this earlier in the summer like i i'm either a leaf homer or i'm completely against the team and you'll be shocked to find out i'm somewhere in the middle uh this team is better than last year's oh it is it's straight up better the

forward group there's no arguments that they're better they're they're definitely worse yeah really worse the decor is clearly better i don't know what argument there is against that and the goaltending what the they had elia samson off what yeah the goaltending i think is where they took the biggest step yes probably now what if this guy gets hurt all right well what if we all get hit by exactly like hell it's all health dependent yes we're talking about like imagine this is nhl ea sports nhl 25 and everybody goes into the season healthy you know that's that's how you have to look at this i think i think you're right and i think what's interesting is okay fine they they lost a few goals on the on the top end if they can stop a few more it's not

going to matter goal differential yeah that's what I mean uh Tanev again I keep coming back to this like you're you're replacing a guy who for several months was the worst goalie in the league with a guy who was the best so that's pretty good um but Chris Tanev is by kilometers and continents uh the best right-handed defenseman the Leafs have had in the lifetime of this show? Oh, easily. Well, who was the last one that was better? Here's what I want you to do for the SDPN channel

if you have time. I want you to do... The definitive who's better? No, no, no. A retrospective of right-handed defensemen, top and right-handed defensemen, that have played for this team since the start of this show up until Chris Tam.

Oh, my... No, do the Matthews era. Or even the Matthews era. I do want to do pre-Matthews just because it's hilarious. I'm not... I would do since Matthews was drafted first overall.

Right-handed defenseman. Since the 0-4-0-5 lockout, the title might belong to Pavel Kubina, and I'm not kidding. Francois Beauchemin is not happy with you. He wasn't a righty. He wasn't a righty.

Damn. Okay. Dude, the crop sucks. It sucks ass dude well it's really bad i mean you if you really want to get crazy like if you want to get trade tree crazy oh you could go all the way back to the last good one they actually had which was uskavage who was just a defensive defenseman who was better who was it's not a long not a long list right it's not a long list with the goalie situation do the leafs sign martin jones who's currently still a ufa well see they do have matt murray oh yeah which yeah never mind man they already got their guy i automatically went to hill to be yeah my guess is they have matt murray

in order to uh not have to play hill to be in the nhl they can well and rather sit hill to be in the nhl they can have them play in the minors i wouldn't be surprised to see him play nhl games this year at all um i would straight up be much more confident in martin jones because who saved the leaf season in january last year yeah and also like we've seen him play nhl games and play them well fairly recently which we haven't seen with matt murray who that's a confusing one yep they must know something we don't and it's funny because like kyle's not here anymore and we knew kyle just loved matt loves his guys and then brad doesn't we're like oh so somebody else must love matt murray as well here's the thing kyle liked him at four and a half million dollars a year i'm

gonna steal him from ottawa yeah but now that he's cheap he's like meh yeah like why not what's wrong with that and by the way i did just check into matt murray's contract if you remember yes last year with martin jones the least were able to uh get him through waivers on the last day of camp because he had a 100 000 signing bonus that teams did not want to pay yeah the day of waivers like the last day um and matt murray also has that in his thing but it does not specify on puckpedia our good friends at puckpedia um where where's our jerseys huh where that hundred thousand dollar bonus where where and when it's paid i had somebody dm me the other day actually adam you stink shut up about hockey no he said hey man i'm going on vacation and i'm

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Starting at just $1 all day, every day, now until December 31st. You gotta try breakfast at A&W. at participating A&W locations in Ontario. Nathan McKinnon on Mitch Marner. Now, this got some play because it mentions Toronto. And I want to encourage everybody to just, let's ratchet it down a notch. Let's take it down.

Let's take it down a little bit here. It's September. Everybody wins the cup in September. I'll have the jar ready. uh he said uh how when asked how marner looked at the andy o'brien camp which is was in vail colorado andy o'brien's been i think crosby and mckinnon's guy like trainer for years and years and years um and i think he was crosby's trainer from like when crosby was like 14 like it was this guy is like legendary um and mckinnon said he looks awesome he's so impressive out there

unreal just so so talented don't think anybody's offended no no here's the sentence and then lee fans lost their minds not bad this was not that bad marner gets a lot of flack in toronto but he's honestly one of the best players in the league i play with some of the best players in the league and then i skate with marns and he's right up with anybody uh especially at the camp there was lots of good players he stuck out as one of the best to the surprise of nobody i think no we know he's one of the best yeah i uh last week i think said he might break gilmore's record single season for points for points this year which is 127 by the way yeah yeah i hate him though so well no i think i don't think he's talking i don't think nathan mckinnon is

specifically referencing you i think the flack do i have to say it here jesse do i have to say it or do we do we already know where the flack comes from where's the where does it need to be said can we leave it jesse no say it say the flack comes when one of the best players in the league doesn't dominate in the playoffs the way you'd hope there you go is that fair that's one for the segment i'm not doing it every time it's mentioned okay ben danford left prospect camp yesterday with a potential oh the oh before you move on okay quickly um that was the driveway i'm sorry yeah sorry um mckinnon and marner training in vale colorado friend of the show coach jeremy was actually there yes uh for the few days that um mckinnon and the whole crew was

out there he said was there can confirm that they were training in vale colorado nate is super chill off the ice but on the ice he's intense wants to win wants to improve the guys are there to get dialed in i love that someone else who would know who's not coach jeremy just so i protect him thought it was really important that we know that that camp was three days yes we we were like marner's been training with crosby and mckinnon all summer and someone got mad at us even though we were like hey this is a good thing did we say all summer i i think i might have slipped we and like we didn't specify that this was like a weekend thing yeah okay and someone was like what it was only three days they didn't spend the summer together and and i'm like oh okay

all right well now we know sorry to inflate how good of a job he's doing like i didn't understand the problem but either way uh no good yeah uh marner's a really good hockey player who's shocked i told you take him in fantasy this year draft him in fantasy this year dude if i get the chance i'm taking him like he would be my first pick he might he might be my first pick yeah might be uh there's some really a little much depends on it depends on where you're drafting i didn't say first overall what i'm not gonna take is kucherov bum fake heart fake heart that's right fake heart h-e-a-r-t you know what i'm saying that's for you lightning fans love you uh ben danford left prospect camp yesterday with a potential head

injury i checked in with our good friend longtime friend david alter uh who is at camp today and he told me that um danford is not on the ice as of this recording but that doesn't could be maintenance um and nobody i said like was it what kind of play was it because i saw that mark masters had the tweet of like them getting him off the ice i said what happened video no uh well so tsn's cameras weren't there yet so we don't know nobody saw it so we don't really know what the play was But these things do happen, and we'll try to update when we know. Well, one of the Leafs' better forward prospects is Roni Hirvonen, and he's been out of sight, out of mind for Leafs fans for the better part of a year

because last year, I think it was at this very camp, he got frigging rocked, and we basically didn't see him for months and months. This happens, man. Unfortunately, this happens. yeah and it's you know i think your instant thought is is it some you know a whole player trying to make a name for themselves with the big first round pick or something that's not the sense i got i but that does happen sure but it's happening less and less i didn't mark stone like like he knocked a block off a guy a couple years ago no see that was that was different it was um it was last year i think and it was a it was a pre-season game uh kings and golden knights

is that what it is yeah and he got mad that a hockey player played hockey i guess yeah mark mark seems like a surly guy i get it yeah i get it but and i just didn't he's like it's not time for me to go on ltir yet that's later man that's adam that's later that's adam wild talking it's later that's that's march i didn't say um robert thomas almost started an international incident did you guys see this no robert thomas of the st louis blues so i guess that robert thomas was um with mcdavid and dry sidle and multiple oilers players when the offer sheet news broke this summer oh and he insinuated matt larkin uh who is a great writer uh you should follow matt larkin uh he's we worked at daily face off um he said so what matt's tweet says is this

when the offer sheet news broke he was with multiple oilers players including connor mcdavid and leon dry saddle awkward moment and thomas explained they weren't too happy now connor mcdavid spoke to the media and he said no we're not mad you're mad he didn't say it like that he said i saw robbie's comments please don't report that i was mad exactly fooling right yeah connor mcdavid i saw robbie's comments i thought they were pretty funny he said we were angry or something like that i think it was more just surprised and leon dry side dry soldier said connor and i weren't sitting there pouting like little babies okay can i can i you can we all saw that footage from the oilers locker room after they lost game seven oh powerful heartbreaking

tears in their eyes they just watched their worst nightmares come true their dreams get crushed and zach hyman stands up in front of the whole team and he gives an impassioned speech that included i want every single man in this room to be back so we can try to do it again i think the first game between the oilers and blues is going to be a fucking bloodbath oh i can't wait it's gonna be awesome and and um uh i what i don't understand is why don't they just go yeah we were kind of disappointed kind of sucks to lose two great guys nope i want connor to be silent mad until jesse when is the first oilers blues game uh oiler i hope it simmers and seethes and december 7th oh not too long christmas tree yeah blues uh go to edmonton

so the blues go to they're dead they're dead like listen are the blues better than the Oilers are the Oilers better than the blues who beats who in a playoff series whatever whatever listen I don't know

who wins what individual games except that one the Oilers are going to fucking stomp them they're going to kill that hockey team if all involved like all the main players involved are playing guarantee it they're gonna yeah 100 100 what if what if like broberg has come to jesus moment

has a giant game all the way just scores a hat trick connor mcdavid lifted miro hayskinen's underwear over his head and blinded him with them in the playoffs philip broberg's dead we'll see i'm ready they're excited there's it's oh oh the silent simmer and they get like what 20 25 games to warm up because we know they treat the beginning of the season like a fuck around like last year oh they're gonna maul them they're gonna maul them tom gazzola from uh yeg sports talk haven't in sports talk said hearing that evander kane and darnell nurse are expected to start training camp on the shelf due to injury nurse has been on the ice for informal skates and continues to heal up from a lingering injury in the playoffs.

The projection is he will be good to go later in camp. And this sort of backs up what we've been hearing about Evander Kane or has been whispered, which is, you know, this could be one of those longer things. And what I'm wondering is if we see a situation where he comes back around trade deadline, if he comes back, you know, oh, no, he's got an injury that's going to keep him out until game one.

That's crazy. No, that's not going to happen. it won't be game one you need to be able to teams want to see what you have right like 32 thoughts Elliott Freeman was talking about Thatcher Demko last year and one of the reasonable

requests the Canucks had was we need to see you play two games before the playoffs start that's pretty reasonable you can't just be like no I'm good this is the most important time of year and I'm fine because trust me bro and then what happened you got hurt right

it's it's not how it works on that track by the way the the canucks seem to be a little bit worried that thatcher demko trained too hard this summer oh really that's the report out of vancouver is that they've they've told him to like you know sometimes you do have to tell these athletes to like yo can you just that's an interesting maybe eat some doritos and sit on the couch man like uh done because you know like they are extremely competitive and i'm sure he's probably thinking like if i was there no disrespect to archer silas but if i was there we would have beat edmondson he's probably thinking that right now sure i mean silas was great he was and i just think like you know uh but that's how you have to think if you're a hockey player totally yeah with a vander kane

like vander kane's injuries as real as it gets he wasn't healthy enough to play in the stanley cup final the final what was that five games because the last game he played was game two and in the final two games that he played against florida he was useless zero shots on goal played about 10 minutes was a minus three like you if you remember he was limping around the ice do you remember that and so like he's gonna be out and it makes sense that he's out uh Oilers are a fascinating team I think trade deadline is closer to right um with Evander Kane but the Oilers like okay so they've lost some guys right they lost we're gonna talk about this on their season preview that we're recording actually after this but um uh so they lost Fogle they lost Holloway they

lost Broberg they've lost CeCe they have Stetcher Henrik and Perry and they're those are all guys they added throughout the course of last season right so those are guys who aren't going to show up as ads to the team but to me they are well and some more new faces Arvids and Skitter Pod Colson with like we didn't even get to them yep yeah again I'm saving this for the yeah what are what are you doing here well what i'm what i'm trying to say is those are guys who they were like okay we're gonna get them we're gonna ease them in the lineup we're gonna see what we got but this whole game one thing like that works for someone like mark stone or nikita kucherov who's a star and a known quantity and you've worked with them uh forever um i i don't think that

works with evander kane at this stage in his career no i don't i don't imagine this injury we're talking like hey he's gonna sit out 82 games no like no that's so many games i don't think that's the expectation here for edmonton or it shouldn't be for the fans like he'll return somewhere this season the middle beginning somewhere but um i don't think he sits out till the playoff no no no no i agree um i'm one of my favorite headlines for no reason at all this season i was looking at uh um sportsnet's website and mark specter had a piece on victor arvidsson and here's the headline arvidsson drawn to the oilers for quote the hockey i was like yeah man now writers don't before we go in on mark do not do that because writers don't

write the headlines but no they don't turns out they let you know about that it was it was the article is about and we've we've there's been a lot of talk about this because oilers fans have been subjected to the um mostly fully now canadian hey 18 no trade list so it's all of canada and buffalo uh for years and a lot of players are taking their no trades off for edmonton because who the hell's saying no to that who's saying no to that who the hell's saying no to the oilers right now 100 and uh i guess matthias akholm was asked uh what drew victor arvidsson there and he said it's the hockey people want to do better or want to get better people want to win i just look at myself i am from up north in sweden too so i'm kind of used to the weather i think the weather is

a big part of it for players but i'm excited so what have we said before on the show every city's great to live in if you're rich yeah it's pretty great yeah edmonton and mcdavid was saying that too he's like listen turn up construction could be better he's like but it's not a hard city to live in like it's pretty convenient turn up the heat the dude fine you'll you'll live yeah doesn't mcdavid have a heated driveway he does yeah he does now i don't know if arvidson's quite in that tax bracket but he's doing all right he could have heated drive he could have a heated driveway he's in that tax bracket for sure uh matt martin is going to the aisles camp on a pto guys i think cal clutterbug if i'm not mistaken he's still unsigned is this the end of that line yeah

identity line the identity line is that i have to i have to look that up but there was some talk about that too is it finally because i think that's a big deal now lou is known for being a like a soulless hard-ass and everything. But he has, and we know this from his time with the Leafs, he has used PTOs to do right by his guys. And, you know, we've talked about this with the Leafs and stuff happens throughout training camp. And Matt Martin, at this stage in his career,

should he be in the top 12 for the Islanders? Eh. But what if something happens? I don't even see Casey Zizekas in here. So he's there in case. No, no, he's there. he's there casey's casey's there there you go so sezikis is there but like clutterbuck played in with john tavaris and i think he was older and tavaris we talk about like he's old

and he's not a star right matt martin oh man oh man the sun sets on every nhl career like he's not there on a pto because the islanders are like well let's familiarize ourselves with this guy yeah they know what he can bring he's played for lou lamorello for the majority of his career at this point i think um they know they know what to expect clearly lou likes him and has a lot of respect for him yes i'm in toronto and i think he really likes immediately traded for him uh when he went to the island this is a huge sign of respect from the islanders but also i think a sign of where he's at in his career right now yeah yeah yeah so i just thought that was a little interesting thing because that is that's been a big part of what the islanders have been for

with the exception of the one and a half year stint in toronto um a decade that line yeah oh my god it reminds me a little bit of uh remember the leafs invited brandon prust to camp on a pto yeah and then kept him for like a month into the season just because they're like yeah be good to have him around uh i think this is what they're doing with matt martin and i want to say that was under lew as well i don't think he goes down to the minors if he doesn't earn a role with the team right uh no no yeah no like it doesn't feel unless he wants to be that guy you know unless he wants to be like hey i'm the captain of the hl team this is what i'm gonna do i think he could support right like like like kyle clifford at this point yeah yeah that's exactly the example

i was gonna give yeah like he you'd have to ask him right right not everyone wants to do that yeah i know a cow cow clutterbuck he's just looking for a job like uh lou said that he's not coming back so yeah that really is the end that's the end of the line yeah wow so he gets assigned for like three more years yeah he's still there but clutterbuck's not coming back so he's gotta look for a job and yeah who knows if matt martin makes the team is the in the nhl the season i mean they're not like all right let's familiarize yourself no no they know who matt martin is they're just not sure he's in their top 12 can i just say that i'm not looking forward to our islander season preview because i just don't know like great man are you are you the

same you look the same um have you gotten better i don't know man it's just like like they're always tricky yeah you gotta remember and they can take advantage of teams that fall and then play great defense and then go to the second round but you gotta remember that it's september and any day now they're about to announce oh yeah and we signed these four guys yeah that's true that is very very true um yeah uh keith kincaid by the way has joined uh the islanders as well too yeah he's at the rookie camp which is interesting 35 yeah how is this allowed well maybe he's a rookie with the islanders what has he played for the islanders before i don't think so they got to invite geo yeah yeah they have to invite you what are the rules for that obviously you can have a

35 i guess there's none yeah there's um there's leafs games this weekend like rookie camp oh yeah this weekend there's hockey i think someone's playing games tonight yeah no yeah you're right what are you talking about the universe leafs games outlined all the games bruins and penguins panthers and predators devils and senators blah blah blah blah like we just keep going and i said like how i actually texted him like kyle how do you watch these he's like well you can watch pens and bruins on the penguins website all right wow that's cool like it would be nice if the teams were like here here's a link you know i uh i was watching i think it was a rookie camp game last year online and i was just in the comment section like we're all sick i think it's

we're all disgusting don't you like it i don't know of course i'm excited to see some rookie camp i'm a pig in mud do i do i'm not gonna do so much like i'm not gonna have a hot take after rookie camp oh bullshit it's cool to watch play ah no this guy he's not gonna make it sucks look at that back check garbage uh jesse yeah i sent you something via text i'm not sure if you got it yet but i would like to queue it up for the next segment if we could and it's a short one i love when you're rock favor yeah now you get players don't look over there i'm not look at me looks directly at me when you get nhl media day you get players taking pictures on the ice and yes um brock favors pictures i think stood out to a lot of people okay uh have you seen brock favors

pictures i don't think so okay have a look what it looks like why it's a little clark kentish like i'm gonna take off these glasses and be superman uh i have tried to wear glasses under my helmet a bunch of times what a pain in the ass he's wearing his glasses under his visor okay if you if you haven't if you're listening on audio and he sort of got the visor tipped up over his eyes so he can see you but not through two panes of glass just his actual glasses not the visor i love that why is he doing that they kind of go hard right you you ask why the reason why is because he has an eyewear collection uh it's through it's through huxley they launched it last year mid-season ish it's through huxley and there's also like a charitable um portion to it

so yeah i'll bring it up after it's such a i feel like it's an under talked about uh aspect of like pro athletes like how many of them need eyewear how many of them wear contacts on the field and like they're so particular about everything and like oh this neck guard's uncomfortable like i wonder if guys are like no i don't feel comfortable playing with contacts i just i'll just going fuzzy you know what i mean yeah yeah i play hockey fuzzy i mean i know i'm not the same but i'm just saying like we should run that right we should run that video and i'm michael jordan of of what of steve getting blown up at hockey oh my gosh yeah maybe that wasn't my damn fault maybe you should put some contact yeah that wasn't my fault just give your periphery a little uh a

little bit of a boost there yeah be okay it's not hurting my so last season december 1st uh there's a pr notice uh brock faber and huxley optical to launch signature glasses collection and move that celebrates heritage hometown pride minnesota wild defenseman brock faber has teamed up with huxley optical a twin cities based small business to launch an exclusive collection of glasses for over a decade huxley optical has been crafting fashionable affordable eyewear from minnesota's diverse community emphasizing transparency customization and meticulous craftsmanship so uh what's the charitable line as well uh reinforcing the hendrickson foundation's belief that hockey is for everyone five percent of all proceeds from the faves

and page collection so page is his sister uh page paper collections will be donated to the hendrickson foundation and minnesota wild special hockey where page plays so there you go yeah it's it's really cool and why not just reinforce not your um your persona as the guy with the glasses then you go to media day you throw on the glasses now if if he was on the la kings under mark bergevin he'd have been traded by now well uh but but they already did that the minnesota wild have allowed brock faber to be a person and i think that's cool it's really cool good for them good for them um less lest he have a personality i'm just looking there's so i didn't know anything about brock faber's sister there appears to be an article on the nhlpa website that we uh uh can

maybe link to brock faber's sister page a star athlete and member of minnesota's special hockey shares her younger brother's love for the game i didn't know that that's really cool yeah that's great two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. And what better way than with a delicious Pret organic coffee starting with just $1

all day, every day now until December 31st at participating A&W locations in Ontario. Um, the NHL, and this one's going to be spicy for you. Oh boy. The NHL are monitoring teams, quote, income tax situations, but say, but say there are no easy fixes. Who? Who could they be referring to? So I'm going to give you a Bill Daley quote, and then I'm going to give you a Shane Pinto quote. Oh, OK.

It's an issue that comes up from time to time in our room at the board level and the general manager's level, said Bill Daley. there are no easy fixes it's not like we can just pick from column a and fix the problem overnight players make decisions on where they want to play for a variety of reasons their bottom line is one of them but the quality of life and the communities they live in is probably more important now what did we just say about specifically edmonton but any any part of canada when you're rich any city's great now here's what shane pinto had this could be greater shane is a man of the people and he's got a damn good mustache too does he he said they have to find a way to tweak it honestly oh if you look at all these free agents you don't blame them for

going down south it just is what it is and it's the best for their families and taxes and lifestyle wise but i do think they have to find a way especially for the canadian teams they've got to overpay guys to come to Canada every time and that messes up the cap I think they have to find a way to just even it out I know it's not easy because it's been like that forever but I think it would be nice given the even playing field now let me say this guys do you have the John Tavares quote about this issue no I don't I don't but that could be a problem is that my lawyers currently in court yeah he's he's at war with the Canada Revenue Agency let me say this let me say this uh it's a really easy fix that's tougher than chara that's that's a tough one uh you take

the percentage of income tax for people in the bracket and in canada it's over 250 grand and then everybody's in the same bracket and it's 52 based on province in ontario it's 52 when you get up over 250 grand um they'll live yes they'll live but what you do is you work a percentage out where it's even across the entire no because that's not how it works for most of the athletes like they don't have to live in the state where they play they also file 41 different income taxes for all of the cities they play yes you play in la that day you're filing california tax so i shouldn't say it's not 41 technically i'm just talking about how many games are not in their home market but you're filing taxes for the game you played in la because you earn that income

there so it doesn't work a blanket across the board you charge teams in canada this because the guys it's a pretty easy math wait this is easy no i would just leave it what why why would you leave it when that when we're talking about some in some cases a 15 to 20 percent difference and and like guys like alan walsh will tell you if you manage your money properly this should not be a problem yeah however that's being challenged in canada right now on tavaris so the way tavaris did it is the way that they do it alan says that and i believe him alan's a very smart guy but the vast majority of players in the nhl disagree with that notion well do they disagree or do they not understand they probably don't understand it yeah uh both yeah and and that's okay i just think

people disagree with things they don't understand right the idea the idea so jesse while that's true 41 games still are at home yes so that so so but then how do you how do you calculate a tax break for certain guys because they're going to be living there certain parts of the year and other guys who aren't going to be living there and like say okay you you live you play in a certain market in a state how does that work across the board it does the majority of your money is going to be made in the whole market but it's not a blanket for everybody it's not a blanket we're all paying the same rate so how can you put a blanket implementation of this salary cap to the team well i don't think you do a blanket i think you have to adjust by market so what's the what's the

income tax in whatever territory yeah and then you go okay so this team if they're signing a guy like like for instance with the cap everything's in american dollars right right everything like when matthew signs 13 and 1325 that's not canadian dollars canadian dollars that's like 17 million or whatever it is uh it is yeah yeah so so they're so they do everything in american dollars what i would suggest is and again not a mathematician this will shock you is you have to look at the income tax at every part i think quebec's got the highest i think ontario's up there i think bc's up there and you have to look at what's the overage a team can spend in real dollars not because again canadian teams pay in american dollars so but their real dollars are higher than the american

dollar figure what can they overpay in real dollars to even that out you cannot have a system that you claim is fair like the one thing about parity is if it's going to be if we're going to talk about financial parity which the nhl claims that's their key factor we want everybody on the same playing field financially when it comes to the cap you have to have an income tax variant variant in there and listen there's probably some accountants listening right now going adam you're doing a really bad job by representing us and here's how i do it leave it in the comments i don't know i uh you know parents can talk about certain things at the dinner table because the child at the table is not going to have a basis of understanding for the yeah that's me right now

Well, and I, and I think here's the whole thing you're trying to do is even out what the player takes home. So if I play, if I play in Tampa or if I play in Toronto, I'm going to take home the same thing. My point is that the two guys, we could sit next to each other as players on the Tampa Bay lightning, but our take, if even if we both made $5 million, I can probably take home a different amount than you because of how I live my life in terms of where I live in the off season, where I live during the season.

you know like i could live in pennsylvania but play in new york but the nhl and the nhlpa are not responsible for that they are responsible for where they play during the season yes so no i'm even during the season i'm just saying paid only during if the if the goal is for the the take-home pay to be the same each player's situation would have to be the same and their accounting would have to i don't i don't think that's necessarily the case i don't think the implementing some sort of tax variant is fixing any problem i think it's i think because i i agree with you when you talk about cost of living like it's going to cost more to live in new york than it is in nashville right clear yeah well you sign in new york you know that but if you are objectively making five

million you're making five million in nashville you're making five million in new york and yes it costs more to live in new york but your take-home pay is still less that is where i think the nhl can do something they can't do anything about how you spend your money cost of living and i think this should be a union issue because the union should be going hey some of our guys are gonna get screwed by income tax here and they should all be making the money that the take-home should be the same i do think there's a math calculation in there and that that never has to reach the fans like we don't have to be taking that into account but there should be a variable of here's an equalization so that you know if you make five million in nashville your

take are you adjusting with uh canadian players who live in canada and make american dollars like i think absolutely you are i mean you're already doing it you're already doing it in what way well because you're paying them the money goes into their account in american dollars yeah it does yeah so i'm saying that money goes further so then are you scaling that back against the tax system where they put it's like i i don't understand the adjustments we're making and like it doesn't well i haven't formulated the plan it doesn't sound like it's equalized it doesn't sound like it's achieving the goal here of making everything equal well i don't think everything can be we've talked about that right like a market like toronto is always going to

have more money than a market like columbus that's just the way it is but i think you can equalize at very least if that's if the nhl is going to have what we call the triple hard cap then it has to be actually fair right if we are gonna if we are going to and i'm somebody who hates the cap but if we are going to have it it should be fair it should be team x and team y are completely different cities but if you play for team x you will make the same as if you play for team y regardless of income tax your take-home pay would be the same and i don't care how they get there that's a smart person's problem i'm just guy with podcast who says doesn't that seem to make sense i mean tell me where that doesn't make sense it it only makes sense if it puts more

money in the pockets of teams and or players well players it would and so teams might not like that wouldn't it or actually governments might not like that i don't know i mean maybe the teams don't care because it's just a little extra money i don't know is it a canadian is it a canadian team issue where it's like okay now we got to overpay them even more so that the tax system will accommodate this but then year in year out taxes change in different places Well, so does the cap. Yeah. Bubble on.

No, no, no. It's flat against all the teams. Like, I feel like that's something the NHL controls. It's like, it's 88 million. Yeah. The standard is the cap goes up unless the world stops, right? Yeah. The cap goes up no matter what.

Taxes kind of ebb and flow. And what do all these teams have? Accountants. Ice building. Oh, accountants. And what do all these agencies have? We interviewed on Agent Provocateur, one of the guys who's the accountant for Octagon Hockey. Yeah. And what Alan said is that the tax rates don't matter in that in the end, that's what he's always said.

We'll see what happens to guys. And I and I agree with you, Jesse, but it's not understood by the players. And therefore, it's an obvious disadvantage. It's an obvious disadvantage. Whether or not that's true, the perception is I can't get my money the same way in the north as I can in the south. and when i look at um uh when i look at all the other things too like oh by the way i get to play golf all year round if i live in florida that's also great but i i would i would bet that and i think this is the same for most people when you have one career and you've got a short window to make as much money as possible you're going to the place that can make you the most money and right now it's you not only do you have the best weather you also have the most money in these

places places like florida places like tennessee formerly arizona as well what happens when a player named chuck puck signs an eight-year contract with the florida panthers and he only plays one year there before your uncle is correct and alexandria ocasio-cortez becomes the dictator of florida and declares a 90 tax a socialist republic yeah dictator of florida then they adjust that's the whole thing the cap adjusts yeah but i wish they also don't adjust for like the canadian dollar you know like i don't well they do adjust for the canadian dollar they just say you pay in american dollars and whatever the canadian dollar is at that's no but hey no but i'm saying your money goes further or your money's less at that moment so there yeah i think i think

the reality though is that on both sides of the border things like obviously cost of living if you go the second you cross the invisible barrier from buffalo like upstate new york to ontario things go up like 30 and it's not just the dollar conversion it's straight up it's more expensive to live here the the they can't account for that they cannot account for that and i agree on that but they can account for taxes they can account for taxes absolutely and it's also weird to be just to be advocating for like oh make it easier to take the players away from tampa you know well it's not i mean you're gonna get a little bit like oh no they're too good like make it make toronto make it better for toronto yes half the owners in the league are gonna say no

like what like the ones who want this very clearly benefit from it and the ones who don't don't and to me it just seems like it's gonna be a stalemate it just seems like it doesn't need to be a priority for the league above i think it's all their other priority whether they're gonna to take it or not i think it's a pa oh it's a pa issue that's what it should well that settles that what made you happening what made you flip-flop from what alan talked about for years and that it doesn't really matter to i think it's the execution of it i think we've already when we talked about the fact that players are like yeah that's great i don't understand that and here's the thing alan's system and the system that a lot of players use is currently being challenged in

court right now sure the tavaris thing part of it is bonus what's considered bonus and how that's taxed in this country but part of it is uh players have to take their wealth and essentially lock it up it's like you got to take this and you got to put it away isn't this part of what escrow is no oh so well you're you're talking specifically about canadian hockey players what about guys who play in california who pay a higher tax i think they do a similar thing there i think it's locked in like a corporation and when there's it's it's really minutiae it's extremely like So what made you? I'm not flip-flopping.

I'm looking at the, I do still agree with Alan that yes, you can do that. I just don't think a lot of guys understand it. And I don't think they will. And I don't think they care. It's like, oh, well,

I could do all that shit or I can just sign right down the road there and that sure looks a lot better and it's easier. So because the guys don't understand or care, you think that the league

should change to help those guys? Yes. And help those teams. Or better inform them. Oh, come on. You're going to make them read tax law? Come on. Like, that's not fair.

These guys are hockey players. I don't expect them to know that stuff. Right? And maybe some of them do. But anyway, we'll move on. But I do want to throw that out there. I do think that should happen. By the way, we, along with a bunch of other shows,

talked about the Roberto Luongo clip that went viral. Apparently, Greg Wyshynski is here to ruin the party. Thanks, Wish. Thanks, Greg, from ESPN. He said, in reality, that was not what happened. He did not answer a Facebook ad to join a local hockey team for their championship. It was a combination of them needing a goalie and Luongo being at the practice that day and saying, hey, I'll play.

And Zach Randolph was the guy that was interviewed on it. Adult hockey coordinator at the Panthers Ice Den in Coral Springs. Having current and former NHL players walking around the facility there is commonplace. Since many of their children skate at the rink, Panthers players have been known to drop in randomly. on the day of the Florida Stanley Cup Parade. Three Panthers players stopped by to celebrate during a men's league game.

Lomberg was one of the guys, and he dropped the puck for a face-off. Love that. Yeah, who's now in Calgary. So I just think... Actually, I like that story better that he just happened to be there. No, you should tell the full story.

Well, I didn't want to wreck Greg's article. Do it. What's he ever done for us? Screw that guy. What's he ever done for us? Screw that guy. um okay so do you want me to start from the beginning here uh so basically the team what's the title of the goaltender um was unavailable okay uh and they were sitting

in their dress room nervously and then obviously you see luongo walk in uh and a guy uh the captain of the team brad bargman uh said i got a shiver down my spine i couldn't believe it because this is what i prayed for i was like this guy is going to be amazing uh while their playoff game took place on august 15th news of the loango moonlighting in a beer league only spread uh this week when a video of their locker room entrance went viral um uh when each when reached by comment or reach for comment by espn loango said it's an urban legend and i prefer to leave it that way um and And basically, Bargman had known Luongo for some time. He coached Luongo's son Gianni, and Luongo now coaches Bargman's son Bryce.

He sometimes wondered if Luongo would suit up for the Beer League Leafs, but felt that asking him would be taking advantage of the friendship, which I understand. I get that. He's also a big fan of the Florida Panthers. And Bargman says that no Rogretskis, which was the name of the team, are comprised of players who used to be on the beer league leafs a few years ago he said things happened disagreements persisted and they left me uh and they started their own team and i guess

that's how it all came this is a long it's a long article but that's that's the fun part of the thing is that the team they were playing the noragretzky's in the semi-final against the beer league leafs um they had formed this other team and on that team the noragretzky's was p i I can't pronounce. Peter Sheslevy. Peter Sheslevy, who's a former NHL player. I remember him. No way.

And the GM of the Beer League Leafs, Brad, he was adamant that no NHL players or ex-NHL players should be in our Beer League. You know, we shouldn't have a guy who's played for the Sens and the Ducks and over in the KHL for years. He's played hundreds and hundreds. Yeah, bring up his hundreds. Yeah, playing in the NHL.

Holy moly. Playing in our Beer League. Like, this is for fun. forget so he was like no peter can't be on our team so then the guys who wanted to be on peter's team went and formed their own team which became the noragretskis and the noragretskis went on to win a couple championships with peter and then they reached the semifinals their goalies out brad has saw roberto luongo earlier that day and he's like our goalies out who's gonna play for us luongo luongo's like i will and then luongo actually shows up plays for them they end up

winning four two in the semis and then they go on to win the championship with uh their goalie who came back no yeah and greg's line in there is that um it was a dream for all hockey fans because luongo helped bring a cup to the leafs as we all knew he would finally we all knew it the reason that luongo ended up saying yes is because he has a day with the cup in montreal and he he's going to be on the ice for that day with the cup in montreal and he's going to be playing goalie and stuff and entertaining all the fans so he wanted a warm-up and and he did this for those guys and they ended up winning for him he's just addicted to winning now this motion of raising something above his head he's addicted to it now shatsley who's one of the goal scorers in the game yeah

love that he scored from long distance on like a wobbler that went through luongo and luongo was talking he said he was like super tired like through the second period he's like i'm not gonna get through this i guess it's a really competitive league yeah jason york about it because if he played for the sins in that era that you're showing i think he probably would have played with yorkie yeah yeah adam the the league is like high the highest level of beer league you can get if you got an ex nhl player if if your main concern is you can't have nhl players in this league you got a good league that's a good league yeah and the fact that around the rink. You just have NHLers popping in every now and again. It's really cool.

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today um real news none of this luongo personality stuff this fluff this greg wischinski espn fluff never heard of them clearly trying to take our name and make it into something you know what um big college college hockey news college hockey uh whl's braxton whitehead of course uh has reached a verbal commitment for the 25 26 season from arizona state of the ncaa this is the first ncaa commitment for a chl player since a proposed class action suit was filed against the NCAA. Now, if you remember, because CHL players are given room and board

and a per diem, that's considered by the corrupt NCAA, and I will call them the corrupt NCAA. Sure. Because it's been proven time and time again that they're corrupt. That is getting paid to play a sport. That's such bullshit.

And therefore, you cannot come and you can come get an education here, but you can't play for our teams. And so obviously there's been this class action that has not actually gone to court yet. It's going to take years. If we have an answer by 2030, I'll be surprised. But, wow, it seems like it's probably going to change now.

So a lot of people responded to this. So Alan Walsh, I don't know if you've heard of him, he said, the walls are coming down. Several NCAA head coaches have told me they expect former CHL players in the NCAA as soon as next season. Chris Peters, who runs Flow Hockey, does a lot of prospect stuff,

has a, I think he just announced a deal with the AHL and ECHL too, good for him he said, going to be interesting to watch in terms of timing suit still has not been heard in court and the rule barring CHL players is on the books for now, won't be surprised if others start positioning themselves similarly

smart for CHL overagers to explore this option and frankly, when you think about it like, most CHL players are not going to make the NHL and wouldn't it be great if they could take their great talent to an american school uh and go get an education and play great hockey and you know what frankly

there are so many players in the ncaa who do not develop into great hockey players until they're 22 or 23 and maybe you don't go to the nhl but maybe you got it maybe you got a good career in europe where you're making a quarter million tanner pearson is the enormous exception to the rule where you're two years after your draft eligibility and some team goes actually after deciding you weren't good enough to draft for two years we're going to take you in the first round right and then you're going to go on to have a long nhl career what happens with a lot of overagers is they shoot their shot they fall just short they're like okay i'll try it again and they fall short and then they're 20 and what do you do and the only league

nating university you could you could and it's becoming a better and better option but a lot of guys are like i i don't know i what what do i do with my life right like it's we get thrown into this whether we're in hockey or not into the situation where we're 17 18 19 20 and you got to pick what you want to do with the rest of your life and a lot of these guys are just not prepared to answer that question sure and i look at this guys and i go for the ends from the ncaa's perspective why wouldn't they want this i this raises the level of the talent in their program and there is one more issue i should say oh sorry for the overagers there's a maximum amount of them allowed on any given chl team i believe the number's five oh so you're unless you're really

really good so well can't be a tweener and a team might be like we have six and you're the one we don't want so you got to pack up and go now so now you got to drop your life you still get to play in the ohl but now you got to go play somewhere else and by the way the the the room and board and the per diem is like next to nothing yes it's so small like you just get through the week yeah i don't um i don't really understand why the ncaa doesn't want this well that's what i mean is that i feel and i you guys correct me if i'm wrong here the way i look at this is i'm like if i'm the ncaa i'm like oh i got a bunch of guys who are already well trained like they i was just looking at um uh the france uh instagram page came up and they were going

through all the staff that they've hired like their strength and conditioning and nutrition and all these people that are you know uh starting out their careers as well and a lot of people in hockey started in the chl and you kind of go okay they got all of that to their advantage and then they're gonna go into school where a lot of ncaa ncaa players are coming out of like triple a and high school and maybe they're at sports performance academies but all the same uh is it more competition good doesn't this and and if you're um a d1 university it's obvious but what about if you're one of those university programs that's trying to grow their hockey program and you take a lot of these guys right maybe you're not the most popular destination for the best players

in the country right now but what if you were to grow it and and and pad your pad your stats get you know get better players in i don't think universities don't want talent i think they do yes doesn't make any sense it's weird it feels like it's the corrupt ncaa uh the corrupt ncaa getting in the way of the corrupt ncaa yeah it benefits them like him him declaring for the team like he we expect this rule to be changed for next season like if he if he says he's gonna play 2025 26 season like if if asu is like oh yeah you can commit to us then i think this will be done by 12 months from now jesse the the rule about video games which is why we're able to get an ncaa football game now um or a college football game what was the actual change there was it was

about players being able to get paid how does that work yeah because you couldn't use your name and likeness nil your can use your name and likeness for the history of the ncaa and then that changed so ea sports was able to offer some sort of compensation which largely was just like a free copy of the game and like 100 bucks or something like that to all the all the players names and likeness they used in the game so that's what changed and big in the ncaa in the last decade or so half decade you know it's everybody's allowed to be paid to do brand deals and they can make a whole ton of money right yeah because a lot of them were like it was interesting when they were doing exposés and some of these players and maybe it's not football um or maybe it is

football where you're not one of the star players but you still do have a scholarship and you don't have any money yeah right you're getting a free ride but like you come from a background that's disadvantaged and you don't have how do i how am i going to get groceries this week yeah and And since NIL has been implemented, guys in NCAA are making millions of dollars. And that's how it always should have been because NCAA doesn't want to play the players. But why did you stop athletes for 100 years from just going to Nike and being like, I want a shoe deal? Why was that ever not allowed? And now it is, and it makes total sense.

But it's also kind of skewed the college recruitment game where teams now work with brands to give their players NIL deals. and pay them quote through that right so it's like alabama we got a deal with nike for every recruit that signs and you're going to get this this deal with nike if you come sign with us so they've and then oregon can't offer that or something even though oregon's a nike school yep conflated things but besides the point sure um they can't offer that so it's the kind of skewed agreements but like that's the game big schools will always be able to find ways to pay people over the smaller schools so yeah oh no you know what we can't pay the players but we are going to pay our coach 30 million yeah yeah caitlin clark is one of the best examples where

everybody's worried that when she goes to the wnba she's going to make less money because when she had her nil deals in at iowa she was making so much hand over fist and then you go to wnba the salary is like nothing for a rookie and all that stuff but then she signs a bunch of brand deals and everything's fine turns out she's fine yeah good for but yeah you can make a ton of money as a top ncaa athlete these days which is how it always should have been so these guys who are going from the chl to the ncaa hopefully like if they can now make a significant amount of money like it's it's a shame that the ncaa is limiting that for players right now where it's like okay you're a pro athlete because you play in the chl like that doesn't that doesn't line up with how

we look at the chl so i think by the time this year rolls around uh it'll all be lifted and they'll lose that loss or settle that lawsuit i might feel differently if someone was in the ahl for a full year and then was like i'm a student no no then you're a liar right like that no like you actually play played professional hockey but don't sit here and tell me major juniors profession no stop that's that's it's always been a ridiculous rule and i think yeah if you play you're 21 years old you played in this major junior team like it's minor leagues because you're not a pro athlete. So yeah, Braxton.

Where's he from? Oh, man. Did you look it up? Steve loves this. Okay, I'm going to do province, and then if I get province, I'll do city. He's American. Oh, bad start.

Braxton. It's not for the reason you think. Maine. Alaska. Damn. Wow. you love who's your boy from alaska oh phoenix copley from north pole alaska he loves that trivia and uh over the plate in alaska jeremy sway over a last couple years there was an alaska

versus alaska game phoenix copley against jeremy swayman i don't know what your obsession is with hockey players from alaska he's from north pole alaska braxton's from i think palmer alaska so not quite north pole but i would be equally as excited if a player played in a city called easter bunny land but it's called north pole alaska phoenix gobbledy phoenix gobbledy there we go north pole alaska get a jar uh and also teddy blue from riga latvia um i want to so one of the things that we've talked about a lot and then we'll go to the press conference here if We've got time is the 2018 and the 2019 drafts and the players from those drafts and how they kind of got screwed by COVID.

Yes. What's interesting when you go to hockey TV and you check out the 2019 first round is that every single player that was drafted in the first round, and this is really rare, has played at least one game in the NHL thus far. Wow. Except for Ryan Suzuki, the 28th overall pick to Carolina.

He was drafted out of Barry. he's had uh he just was with the thunderbirds last year uh springfield uh and had a pretty good year 30 points in 51 games still remains to be seen if he plays and even that like 28th overall pick that's very late carolina very good team absolutely and probably didn't need him didn't need him he's the centerman probably didn't need him so i look at you know you look at guys this is the draft that had you know uh jack hughes and bowen byram and uh you know one of the guys in the top five that hasn't quite turned into what they were hoping is alex turcotte in la he's supposed to take a big step forward this year um you know phil broberg was drafted there it's

interesting and i'm bringing up phil broberg for one one reason and one reason alone craig morgan uh who was the coyotes main reporter is now doing a lot of utah hc stuff um has reported this morning just a few minutes ago that victor soderstrom who was the 11th overall pick to arizona right shot defenseman has played just 30 less games than philip broberg in the nhl and utah hc have reached a contract impasse meaning they will not uh that they that he doesn't appear that he is going to be um uh signing with utah signing with utah rfa he is an rfa and uh it doesn't appear that there is anybody either wanting to take him or willing to pay whatever Utah wants to pay

or wants you to pay to take him. So he is going to explore signing with a team in Switzerland or Sweden. Now, I thought it was really interesting to compare Soderstrom with Broberg. Broberg, obviously, and Stan Bowman's right when he says he's overpaid,

but he was actually very effective for the Oilers last year in the playoffs, especially when they finally played him. There's no, no one gets underpaid with an offer sheet. Right, right. Like, what are you talking about? But Phil Broberg is still,

hey, he's a first round guy and he was an eighth overall pick. So they were only picked four spots aside from each other. And here's the interesting thing. Soderstrom in 53 career games has one goal and 10 assists. So 11 points.

In 81 career games, Philip Broberg has two goals and 11 assists. Wow. So Soderstrom's points per game is actually higher than Philip Broberg's. Does that mean he's a better player?

I haven't done the scouting on Victor Soderstrom specifically, but I just thought it was interesting how thin the margins can be sometimes and i wonder if this is one of those situations in utah where okay you've reached a contract impact that could get noisy well you've reached an a quote-unquote impasse with a guy who had his development curved as a lot of these guys didn't uh screwed up by covid i would i would call victor and i'd be like hey man you know you heard of nick robertson right that was the first place my mind went and and listen i'll say this utah is loaded on the right

side yep surrogate surrogate chefs left though right he's left yeah but you got jersey there and they got somebody else they have a decent decor they got a good decor i haven't done that we haven't done the previews for them i know i know they got three great defensemen this year in my head i'm like moser nope not anymore uh let's go at daily face off and we'll find out there you go uh the point of i'm trying to make here poorly is that yeah you got jersey marino the guy i was talking about and michael kesselring you're probably not playing for the team in the nhl this year and he probably feels like he should be and i'm imagining that they're trying to get him on a on a two-way deal like peltier in in calgary whereas he probably wants a one-way so

he's got to slip through although i don't know if he'd have to slip through waivers on his first rfa deal because i don't know the cap that well we keep talking so like if you're uh 2018 yeah so your entry-level slides entry-level slides you play one two three seasons now you're an rfa and you've barely played shit because the world stopped so all these guys like they're either like struggling to even have a job or struggling to stay in the nhl or making millions dollars less than they probably anticipated they were going to and i don't um i don't uh i'm not going to chastise these guys for feeling pissed off about their situation i do want something better it's likely like because in a lot of people don't know this the ahl if you sign a two-way deal

your nhl salary could be like 875 your ahl salary could be like 500 grand yeah oh sorry sorry on the high end yeah teams could be like ah here you go the sun and the moon but no you could make a few years ago i think minimum was 70 so sodastrom this could benefit utah because a they don't have to pay b he goes and plays big minutes in in europe it benefits him because he could probably make a quarter million to a half million at a club oh yeah or more in in uh in sweden or switzerland and come back in a couple years and this is gonna like this is often forgotten he'll play he'll play he'll play and those leagues listen they're not the ahl yeah but they're great leagues yeah it's fun do you get as many eyeballs on you maybe not but maybe you maybe

your club gets lucky and goes to the whole Inca tournament and like you get to do some crazy international shit and whatever. I'm not, I'm not trying to demean European leagues by saying that. I'm just saying when you're in the AHL, you have NHL. Oh, Spangler.

I was, it took me a sec too. I'm like, Nope, that's not the right one. Spangler. You, when you are in the AHL,

you have more eyes on you than you do in Europe. End of story for NHL. But I still think this might actually be smart for both sides. It could, it could. I mean, it's, I'm,

I'm honestly surprised there aren't more situations like this. Arizona Coyotes did not operate like a hockey team for the last few years. And now they are. And I'm surprised it hasn't thrown more things out of whack. You know what I mean? I'm surprised this is the only situation where it's like, hi, we're not even fucking trying. They weren't.

They weren't trying to sell tickets. They weren't trying to win games. they weren't trying to do fucking anything um and now that they are actually trying it looks like this one guy who actually kind of benefited from the situation a little bit by getting into the lineup for a team that wasn't even fucking trying um now he's kicked out um i don't think there's an easy solution here like there's no guarantee there's other teams out there who are like yeah we'll get you in the lineup i honestly thought it'd be noisier from utah this offseason because of that it's kind of quiet literally moving states moving cities with a whole new roster and

news new city and everything so i thought like they'd go spend all this money they weren't spending and guys would would want to leave and come but none of that really happened they kind of stand put they kind of it's sneaky they did it like all at once remember like we signed this guy that guy that is a circus have trade and that was it and like almost radio silence but it wasn't like a dozen moves it was kind of more of a handful yeah no there was one day where they were hands down it was one or two days they were hands down the noisiest team in hockey and then they vanished but maybe i underestimated how much time it takes to just like get your feet on the ground like oh yeah let's not do a bunch of stuff because we're moving states and cities that let's

just slow down and keep everything kind of the same hey we have a building now um is it like staffed like do people work there stop no no i'm like i'm serious that's literally like you have to find out like who from our hockey ops is gonna move from arizona to utah where are we gonna live yeah so i feel like my my perspective on it should have been different and been like there's gonna be nothing happening because there's so much fluctuation yeah that's stuff something to keep keep in mind and by the way uh maurit cider was also drafted in that draft and so was yeah i said bone by needs a contract those are the byram cider and broberg were the only defenseman taken before soderstrom pretty great list yeah good list man yeah good good list anyway uh do we have time

for a press conference or are we wrapping jesse uh we can do a quick one all right quick one two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. First things first, my dream is to get this segment sponsored it is nhl player car watch oh yes uh thank you to the two individuals who sent in our latest nhl player car watches this first one comes from flames fan dan so dan sent in

andre kuzmenko at a chevrolet in calgary oh it's okotoks i've been to that chevrolet have you really just outside of calgary so calgarians oh sorry no no it's it's calgary jesse but people in calgary like that's not calgary that's okotoks so dave who i assume uh hooked koozie up with this uh chevrolet gmc i don't know was that a c a denali that's i can see on the side denali uh he tweeted that koozie has arrived it's flame season soon we're overdue for some good things to happen here nowhere to go but up the next couple years and then there's koozie up front of his Denali in his little hoodie and sweatpants.

Zero out of ten on the tweet. What do you mean? You gotta put hashtag we are a gold star. Yeah, true. If it's a Milstein client and you're not saying we are. Come on. Come on. No, that's... Thank you, Jesse.

I feel like we gotta have some sort of rating system with NHL Car Watch. Do you rate the car? Do you rate the picture? I think we gotta rate the presentation. Have you guys seen the video of Malkin and is it Crosby and some of these other young guys? Letang.

And Letang at a Pittsburgh dealership in like 2007? Max Talbot. Is it Max Talbot? No, Crosby's not there, but it is Malkin, Letang. And they dance. And it's terrible. It's the worst video. And it's the best.

It's the best and worst video I've ever seen in my life. Ovechkin has another one. He sings. No way. Sings and dances. I know he's in a rap video in Russia too. That was funny. He is.

but it's so there's they have no charisma uh like like the the riz is zero oh i don't know and i think talbot had and the riz and they like throw the keys at each other like it's so bad and and so if we're using that as like our that's our that's our sort of um beam in which like you know the bar that's what it is that i feel like koozie even goes under that because at least because i can't even tell that that's kuzmenko in that like he's the picture the picture it's like unless you really know the guy right all right look at his like i you can't tell that okay no the picture is just a little far away you're right there it definitely looks like i'm so proud of my nephew for graduating he turned he turned 18 we got him a denali you know it does

it does here i'm gonna throw this out there he smiled he did smile he did smile but morgan's picture with the mercedes hat on they took two photos one out in front one in the car they do the selfie like that gets a higher rate yes no selfie yeah no yeah how do we okay we have to figure out how a rating system but i think that yeah we need some sort of so yeah if you got an idea for a rating system maybe we do like five tires out of five like i don't know i like that i don't know i give that a one and a half tires one and a half tires five tires is perfect because there are not five tires yeah that's why it's funny that's why it's ridiculous okay and secondly just give me a second to pull this one up this one was sent in by richard clay thank you

richard um at r clay 321 on twitter so richard alerted us to this second player in today's nhl car watch oh it is a tiktok video for everybody listening it's a tiktok video and the caption says regular gt3rs and the question mark and then you see it and then they're doing oh it's got little shots of the porsche oh fun wait it's stanley cup winner colton parejos dude is there two colton parekos or it's just one what do you mean yeah oh yeah the name is pareko they're making them greek no pareko like it's his car oh no apostrophe zero out of ten that's why you guys got hung up yes it is i was like does this person know who okay so it's colton prego's uh gt very nice there it is yeah and by the way i love a porsche with the deckling on it it's the nice

like i love the throwback love love i think it's sick that pareko went to a car meetup oh it's amazing like and brought his porsche and walked around took photos drove it away really fast and then everybody got to see it like i think that's sick no that's what these meetups are known for also safety perhaps what they should have not done is put his license plate on the video that is that the license plate is visible on the video but it's out there now uh but yeah look at that thing that is hot i love i love carbon on a car and look at that yeah beautiful where do you get that thing giant tiger what are you talking about walmart what are you oh what are you just what is happening i don't know i've there's another

pull and pareko out there ready to kick your ass mr mazda is like my mask that horse yeah sorry i i like a nice reliant automobile thank you very much holden pareko you me one-on-one race thinking your nose up at a porsche when you're driving when you drive a mazda he drives a porsche your car occasionally hits 100 hey hey okay adam i don't drive the land yacht anymore my parents 1995 ford tourist station wagon that i used to drive around that's right not anymore maddie bring it back up look at this look at this that's hot yeah that's well done i'm not the fan of giant spoilers i think they're a little tacky but i can see how it adds to the aesthetic of a car like agreed yeah and if you're into that like that is a well because most giant spoilers the

reason you're probably not into them jesse's because they look like shit yeah because somebody stuck them on their their honda accord yeah my uncle my uncle chris helps me bolt this to my fucking shitty car that has rust on it like you know i yeah that to me if i'm with you i don't love a gigantic rear spoiler that's aftermarket right that car is done well yes what's wrong with uncle chris you're a piece of shit steve's not feeling this he doesn't like cars he doesn't get it yeah steve's got an hl car watch uh what are you giving this at a five tires oh man that's a five for me five tires out of five that's a bold don't you think i don't know if this is the bar like you guys complain about the caption on on the video if we're if we're doing the whole thing

With the Kuzmenko picture, you guys were like, oh, the picture is stupid. And you only got one and a half tires. So this time, what are we giving for the tires on Colton Pareko? There's zero blue or logo or anything. It doesn't even say Mazda on it. There's no St. Louis arch on it. There's no, yeah, Mazda logo. What?

Does he even have Apple CarPlay? One. One tire? One. you're giving one tire oh i didn't take a selfie with it dare you adam what are you giving it uh i think okay fine if if if the caption the caption kind of stinks uh you gotta have the apostrophe so i'm gonna dock you half a mark i'll still give you four and a half because it's awesome and you know what we could expand this jesse i love the car watch but we could expand

this just nhl influencer watch no no cars yeah narrow the focus all right all right yeah all right then you're just we're just looking at nhl players instagrams all day but what you guys don't do that anyway you know who had the best instagram at his peak uh pk suban when he when we'd see him training and we'd see all the fast legs you know when that stopped when when somebody put out that video of pk suban parodying that the chop chop chop that stopped immediately like he used to do that every like i'm on the ice i'm on the ice right now and then as soon as that happened it was like that was over and i don't remember who it was but uh the player was miked up i want to

say it was someone on the bruins and they're like post another training video you fucking loser oh what oh yeah that's what i'm talking about it was a thing when pk was like playing and like posting on straight it was a thing yeah see you do it all the time i always found him for that oh i think it was uh trent frederick i think oh no way that's a good show i think i'm not totally sure yeah that's a good chirp i like that one day a good video for you would be uh top 10 chirps of all time oh damn you got me i'll stop your head i mean patrick ring in his ears oh yeah pretty crazy that's got a number one yeah who said you're just bad at hockey uh drew dowdy to patrick maroon and then maroon went on to go to like 40 straight stanley

yeah i want to know um i want to know uh um what was the crosby to caudry oh man oh shit i can't remember he put him away he did he did it was good i didn't think crosby was a big chirper and then he just this cadre thing was pretty devastating oh shit um brad richards to oh my god tom sestito he goes this is fantasy camp for you oh because sestito had just been called up and he's yelling at the bench i'll fucking knock every fucking one of you out i remember brad richards just goes this is fantasy camp didn't uh didn't uh matthews look at um who was whose jersey did he look at and go who are you oh shit oh and he was a leaf too he became was it it wasn't sestito but it was was it a sen yeah it was a sense yeah and the next year he's

at leaf's training camp that's so bad that i forget his name that was a no but every player does that that would make the list yeah it was pretty no it's a common no that was nothing i have never seen another player do that really i don't know never that's a first that was a first that's why it took off it went viral that's a good one i gotta think of some more i gotta think so no it's a good question i feel like it's a fun list you know what i would love to know i want to talk to one of the 80s guys and then one of the 90s guys and go i don't want to know what was said because it was probably really inappropriate and oh my god you would get you canceled but who had who had the biggest mouth in the 80s and who had the biggest mouth in the 90s interesting you

know because there'd be some i think there's to be some good ones you know who'd be fun to ask a question like that uh kiprios oh i feel like you would have some like grade a stories about chirps and he's a great storyteller yeah he'd probably be like and then this and we'd be like really wow like yeah he tells a story wow tell me more the one storyteller the ones you never hear on mic'd up or like the chirps that are like heard you're going through a rough divorce they do that all the time yeah there's a lot of stuff we can't say alex burrows alex burrows took a lot of guys to hell yeah yeah we won't go there but yes uh the crosby cadre thing this is from a toronto sun article way back when in 2013 crosby ticked about an apparent elbow by cadre is shown

exchanging an on ice verbal jabs with leafs captain dion funoff in a clip for the second hbo documentary 24 7 which aired in canada sunday cadre's a bleeping joke crosby tells funoff as the cameras zoom in as for his take on crosby's comment on sunday cadre seemed amused by it all i think i got inside his kitchen a little bit but that's part of my game he's the best player in the world you've got to be hard on him i expect everyone to do that not just myself i think he lost a little respect for me but what are you gonna do i don't hate the guy or nothing i just play hard and he plays hard against me it is what it is okay i thought maybe i thought it was worse than it was it must no no it seems pretty that's pretty weird wait no i like the quote underneath it um friggin

they actually wanted to mic me up for that game and i said no thank god i did because i was a mouthpiece I miss Naz Naz rules yeah okay so anyway well I guess we'll wrap it up there it was a fun show and we're gonna be back next week and this is the second week of our

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