The Steve Dangle Podcast - Aristanley Cupyotes | August 8, 2018

Episode Date: August 9, 2018

On this episode, do video games ever cause you intense sadness? (00:00), shoutout Evan Huber for making this dope animation of us https://youtu.be/DcSjD_O0trY (8:30), Steve goes to visit the cup! (12:00), Wayne Gretzky signed a deal with a Chinese hockey club (26:00), Larkin and the scary state of the Detroit Red Wings (41:00), John Gibson signed a LOOONNNGGG extension with the Ducks (1:07:00), Steve Dangle thinks the Leafs are going to start bad (1:14:00), and the press conference (1:26:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.C.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde Have you ever felt sad at the end of a video game? Not because the game was over, but because you made a choice?

They offer you that end of video game choice that you have to go Damn it! Damn it! This all stems from a conversation we were having because YouTube's algorithm is awful and just links to so many terrible videos what's the video called

it was I deleted it but it was it was the saddest in saddest in all caps the saddest deaths in Grand Theft Auto that will make you cry

and I said well okay because I was thinking like online multiplayer those deaths are not going to make me cry no

like I don't feel anything for those but if we're talking about the actual like cut scenes I might get hurt a little I might shed a tear there's some sad deaths

none in Grand Theft Auto The only ones I was talking about was at the end of Grand Theft Auto 5. Spoiler alert, in case you haven't played a five-year-old game. There will be one person who will be upset. Damn it! I've been avoiding this since 2013! I paid $29.99 for this at EB Games when I traded in four other games. For crying out loud!

When you traded in those four games, you got a total of ten cents for those four games. We'll give you half a chocolate bar for this. Pawn Stars visits EB Games I'm gonna have to bring in an expert best I can do is negative $25 sorry

in fact you're making our carpet dirty being here you'll have to pay for that too there's three options at the end of Grand Theft Auto 5 if you don't know the characters I'm sorry you can kill Michael, you can kill Trevor or you can save everyone and I played the kill Michael and kill Trevor ones and all I was left with was

not sadness, but what kind of a jerk, what kind of an absolute narc chooses either of those first two options where you kill Michael or Trevor. And what's the other option? Save everyone. Oh, why do you have options to kill people if

there's a save everyone option? Exactly! That's instantaneously what I would do, but Steve has time. So he can go back and replay that scene. I used to have time. I have time today! Alright, Adam? I have lots of time today because I deleted Twitter off my phone, but maybe maybe that's for later in the show

I'm trying to think of sad video game deaths not a ton no have you guys played The Last of Us yet? I've heard it's outstanding heard it's really good

haven't played it you've heard it's great since 2011 I believe so you guys better catch up on that that's my game where I go

yeah soon soon for a very long time if you have PlayStation Plus I'm pretty sure it's free so you really have no excuse it's on your system

PlayStation Plus that's the subscription service right? so if you just have online How much does that... Oh, just online? Yeah, if you pay for the online thingy, which I have.

It's free for Plus. What's the... Okay, so what's the service, and I'm sorry to go off on a tangent here, but what's the service where there are older games that are available, like Red Dead Redemption? That's PlayStation Plus.

So I have Red Dead... Yeah. Because I thought it was like $19.99 a month or something like that, wasn't it? Maybe that is. I don't know. Because I'm like, I'm not paying $19 a month

to play Red Dead Redemption, the original. Like, come on. That's another one that I haven't played. Great game, but it's only available for PS3. You can't get it for PS4. No, I've got to be able to download it.

Yeah. No, you can't. No. Can't you get it with PlayStation Plus on PS4? I don't think so. Maybe. Oh, you can get it with PS... Yeah.

On PlayStation Plus, that's where you can play the PS3 games. That's how you can play The Last of Us. So I have it then. So I'm pretty sure if you're paying for online... I hope so. Are you paying for online? Of course, yeah. Yeah, then you have PlayStation Plus.

Okay. If you go into the PlayStation Plus section, you can play NBA 2K8 or something like that. Oh, my God. Yes. Yeah, it's pretty dope. yeah and The Last of Us is one of the free games there and you should play it

because I'm not going to spoil it at the end for you because it's so heartbreaking Far Cry well damn Far Cry has this weird ability to get you into certain characters

and there's one I think it's three where you're on like an island and you can you can kill the bad guy or you can become the bad guy

like become the bad guy and kill the other two people and it's like like the people who've been with you the whole game and I've tried that a couple times

I did it once to one character and I was like I can't do this because like the horror of it all and there was a couple others

I don't know there's a couple like moments in Zelda over the course of the years where I was like oh man oh man when I was a kid

I don't know if I can handle this yeah absolutely I don't know I've never played Zelda it's me neither but I got the

the new Nintendo Classic where you get 20 games in the little box oh you got one yeah that's cool I just got it just got it

I was amazed I was playing Mario 3 which I used to play all the time like dude I remember where like all the secrets are like it's buried in my muscle

memory but I know it I know it all it's so pathetic it was that instead of girls you ever seen a speed run in Mario 3 like on the internet it stresses me out

so much people beat it in 11 minutes oh yeah I've watched those crazy it's insane crazy like especially

the cannonball level where they're like they literally just pop from cannonball to cannonball they just know and that's all you hear and it's great

watching it because they do it on twitch Yes And everyone in the chat is like I'm here for this Oh my god It's happening It happened

They like beat the world record By like two tenths of a second And ah They do it And it's just a bunch of Exclamation marks It's total silence Yeah

It's just people in the room GIF GIF Face Face Face Exclamation OMG

Holy shit Subscribe Subscribe Subscribe I'm gonna donate three dollars I'm gonna donate 25 cents Oh my god I can't believe I'm here

Wakanda forever And like Just all the Internet stuff Hard Subscribe Yeah I was telling Steve

I saw Post Malone Playing a Nintendo DS On my flight Home from Montreal That's crazy And I was like I want a Nintendo DS If Post Malone's

Still playing it Sure So I think I might Invest in that next If it's cool enough For Post Malone Yeah I think I'd need

To invest in Nintendo DS Jesse went to Oceaga Yeah how was Oceaga It was a good time Did you see One of my favorite bands Was there Did you see

Franz Ferdinand By any chance I did not Is this one of your Favorite bands One of my favorite bands I really love them Love them

Cause they're amazing No you girls Never do Yeah Really Yeah fuck yeah Absolutely They have better songs than that

But like The first album is like a classic If you're like into that Sort of rock Absolutely That's great That's surprising Really

I would not have I mean I went and saw them It's okay to like them Oh no I went and saw them With our friend A guy who we grew up with

Named Russell And this was the first concert I'd ever been to Russell Brand Russell Brand Yeah First concert I'd ever been to That like I didn't realize

I didn't realize that like you could go to a concert and stand like at that point in my life I was like probably 15 where I was like I thought you just went to concerts and you had an assigned seat so this is at the at the time it was like the docks but it's now the rebel or something in Toronto and it was their first album

they're kind of just breaking and this guy literally in the crowd who was taller than everybody else made it his mission to elbow everyone in the fucking head like he got like this perverse like he just fucking loved it like and he just It was like dropping like serious elbows on people and they get it was like I was like this is fucked. I hate this Okay

Mosh pits used to be just running around and shoving people Yeah, now I've been seeing all these videos of people throwing like Barton Lisa windmill punches Oh, yeah, and kick it. They're doing the Bart and Alisa at the same time. Just trying to kill people. When did that happen? When you're high, you don't feel anything at a Travis Scott who closed on Friday broke his leg and the concert had to be stopped Went so hard, he broke his leg. That's insane. How is his new album?

Oh my God, it's great. Is it good? But it's, I was telling, we were having this conversation earlier, sorry. It's 17 songs, which is a little annoying because you can't perfect 17 songs. So I prefer when artists go short and you get all the hits,

but it's a streaming era and you bloat your album so you can pump the streaming numbers. So I get it. Yeah, double albums are always hilarious because it's like ah you mean there's one good album in this double album

you're just going to make me find it yeah you'll just make me find 12 songs that are actually playable and then I'll put them on a playlist here's the only downside

but it's filled with hits here's a 5 minute interlude that sucks yeah absolutely let's get to the next song man whatever exactly

hey I want to shout out our boy Evan Hubert yeah who put together the coolest thing that we well Jesse Jesse I think missed it all

because he was at Oshiega I saw it on Like four days after, like four days after, Jesse's like, that cartoon's nuts. He's like, Steve, watch a Game of Thrones in ten years. Yeah, I thought you just weren't that impressed. Yeah, well, that garbage thing. Yeah, and then you were like, whoa.

I'm like, it was pretty awesome. Man, if you guys heard of Maroon 5, it was okay. It featured us, so it couldn't have been that good. I thought it was very good. Excellent, actually. That's what I think. You're the star. The part where you have like the long eyelashes, like, hey guys.

I didn't watch it. If you want to follow Evan... Are you out of your mind?! Sorry. Evan Huber, at sketchhead underscore Evan. And if you can, he's asking for people to help crowdfund his projects and stuff. He does more than just videos for... He doesn't do the videos for us, to be honest with you.

So if you pump up his... I encourage you to watch the video on YouTube. So at least he gets some AdSense money from that. Yeah, also he's got a... I guess it's called a Ko-fi account. K-O-F-I. and you can donate a coffee to them

so a coffee is coffee is three dollars at a time so like the other day I donated 14 coffees to them

because that's two weeks worth so you can go on and give them one or you can give them ten or three whatever

that's a cool service don't just watch don't just watch the video he did for us watch his other stuff he's really great and talented and make sure you click

all of the ads ah yes see okay Hey, as a YouTube partner, I'm going to have to ask you to not say that. Yeah, please don't. On account of that is a breach of something. I didn't say that. I was being sarcastic.

Well, not for us. It's not a breach for us. We were encouraging you to do it for someone else. Yes. But definitely don't do it for us. Heavens no. No, that's wrong. I would ask you to skip every ad.

See. Right? No. Wouldn't you? Wouldn't. No, I always watch all the ads. Are you a psychopath? Beth, you skipped the ads?

What's wrong with you? I always watch- I don't care if Iggy and Charlie eat. I want to watch Steve's video. No. Hey guys, what's up? This is a five minute infomercial on how you need a new washer dryer. And I'm always like, hooked!

Can't wait to watch the next four minutes and 53 seconds of this. Remember when the YouTube video was just this guy in his garage like, this is my Porsche or whatever. And he's like, you know how I got this? Books. And he just- I never watched it all the way through. I don't know how that commercial ends.

It was just some guy, and I think he's got a YouTube channel, so I think he advertised through YouTube, but he's basically, it's like him in his supercar in his garage, and he's like, you guys like this car or whatever? You know how I got it? Reading. And he, like, shot it on his phone. Yeah. What year is this?

A couple years ago, I think? It wasn't that long ago. Dude, no. No, I know. It sounds like some guy was like, I want to be the first one to have a YouTube ad. Nope. Like, two years ago. This was yesterday.

Yeah. Yeah, no, I've noticed. Anyway, shout out, Evan. He's coming in studio right now. The video did really great. And you know what we'll have to do next time is just put, like, when he comes out with it,

because he surprised us. We didn't know. We were working on one. Yeah, I know. He sent me some sketches. But what I want to know or what I want to do with him next time is we'll take, like, a 10-second teaser

and put it on all of our YouTube channels, or not on our YouTube channels, but on our Instagrams. So that way it pushes to his YouTube. I'd rather him get the money than, you know what I mean? Than everybody find it on Twitter and then you just watch it

and then you don't go back to YouTube and watch it. Bingo. Or have to donate money through coffee if you can't do that. Because not everybody can. We get that. Of course. So let's do the AdSense thing so at least he makes some money off it because he's very talented. That was awesome.

Over 62,000 people have seen it on Twitter alone. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's not bad. Yeah. And it was one of those videos, I think you picked the right clip. Again, we didn't set him up for that. I mentioned, I think, in a previous podcast that he was going to do it. But he picked that clip.

That was all him. So that was a perfect 30-second clip. And I think it takes like a week of concentrated effort to do like 30 seconds of animation we were talking about. So it's not easy. How do you want to support him? How do you know those 62,000 people weren't just Russian bots? They could have just been Russian bots. It was on Twitter, which we shouldn't trust.

No, we definitely shouldn't. So 61 is probably fake bots? Probably. So it's like 1,000 people. Okay, the video doesn't exist. It didn't happen. No. No, we don't have it.

Yeah. Hey, Steve. Yes, Adam. You went and saw the Stanley Cup. I did, and only the Stanley Cup. So there's a story here. I know it was rainy, and I know you ran into our boy Andrew Sheehy, who comes out to every event.

We love you, Andrew. Shout out. Shout out, Andrew. And he was posting, I saw on his Facebook, he had pictures with you and everything. So tell me, Steve. Yes. There is apparently a story associated with this that Jesse already knows. Jesse's talked about it far too much.

No, I didn't hear the full story. Oh. I wanted you to keep going. I'll tell you the full story, which I think gets to an argument Jesse wants to have. So that's good. But, no, so the— I don't know if I'm argumentative today. Go ahead.

Years ago, Chris Draper, longtime Detroit Red Wing, noted guy who was traded for a dollar. You go ahead and Google that one. He brought the Stanley Cup to the Black Dog Pub, which is literally up the street from where Adam and I grew up. and uh i met chris draper when i was in grade two but that was the year claude lemieux decked them from behind red wings win the cup next year brings the cup to the black dog but i didn't find out about it until it was too late i found out in the scarborough mirror a local paper back when those existed and um i was like you know what i'm not gonna miss that again i'm not gonna miss that again because i think he brought it there more than once it's rare that a local like

I mean a local like someone who grew up up the street not someone who's from like the same town I'm talking about up the street it's rare that a local

wins a championship in a major league you know and we've been lucky enough to have that happen a couple times if Wayne Simmons

wins the cup he grew up just down the street so he might bring it to the black dog who knows but DSP grew up just down the street so he brings the cup

Devante Smith-Pelly just in case you're not a Caps fan my bad I assume most of the people listening to the show know who DSP is Not everybody's going to know.

You're right. So George St. Pierre. So I'm in the parking lot across the street from the Black Dog. It's like kind of a busted plaza. There used to be a bowling alley. I don't know. It might have got shut down for reasons. I don't know.

You're drinking, mostly? Yeah, mostly that. I wasn't going to say it, but yeah, there it is. There it is right there. For sure, was that? I was 19 when I drank there. I know that. Nope.

So anyway. Important parts of this story. It's super important. I'm glad we've gone there underage drink so I had a turnip on my belt and

no so I get there and it is absolute deluge like completely it's a downpour yep and I thought maybe

the whole meet and greet thing was like inside the bar oh no no no no it was outside everyone's lined up down the street

to see this thing and they're all soaked and I drive by them and they're soaked and I have I'm like okay I want to like film this I brought my camera

that's out I'm not I'm not taking that out of the bag even okay well I want my phone well no that's gonna get ruined too

my mom calls and she finds out I'm in the area and she's like oh come down the street I got a rain jacket I can give you I'm like

mom shout out mom so I go and get the rain jacket come back up and I wait in line your mom has an interesting tone of voice I just wanna say

oh Steven I'm your mother it's a condition Adam how dare you I'm sorry she's got stereotypical mom voice itis oh

come in out of the rain and have a warm lasagna take this blanket you didn't say stereotypical Italian mom is itis am I right gotta have a warm lasagna so get my jacket and I'm like okay I'll just wait in line

and the line takes like forever right and I'm also wasting time by like going down the street to get this jacket I didn't realize Devontae Smith-Pelly wasn't going to be taking pictures anymore after 4.30 so when I get to the front I'm like where'd he go

oh he's gone how long did you wait in line honestly like probably an hour, hour and a half I did like a Instagram live stream to kill the time no because I was going to make it into a thing and then I was going to make it into a video and then I get to the front and there's nothing there

I bet that was interesting it was super interesting man what thing were you going to make it into I so Smith Pelly and I follow each other so I was hoping to maybe

get an interview on what and all that on Twitter okay which I can't use that anymore but I

yeah I thought I was gonna maybe Jesse the attempt to get a cool thing okay does not take away okay listen just cause it didn't happen

I tried I freaking tried I tried my best alright why you gonna dump on me for the shitty effort I mean I tried

there's a couple things here Number one, you work for the number one sports organization in the country Yeah, but I didn't want to Sports media I didn't want to do it that way, though No, you want to wait in line for 90 minutes to get to the front of the line No, man, it's got to be authentic Yeah, kind of

What are you, a hipster hockey guy? No, I just didn't want to be one of those I'm with the media while people are standing out there soaked in the rain I wanted to be soaked in the rain as well So you got nothing Yeah, listen You got nothing because you didn't want to jump the queue of a couple hundred people so you could entertain thousands.

Don't make me argue that I was right knowing that I'm wrong. I know I goofed up. And also, did you bother to DM him before? I did, and he said maybe, which that's fine. He doesn't know. So at least he responded. That's cool. Yeah, and I knew he was going to be busy.

It was a private event at the Black Dog. There were a few people who I noticed there, and I got to talk to them. The Stewart brothers were there, Chris and Anthony Oh nice Chris Kern, NHLer, Anthony Former And I think there were a bunch of other folks there A bunch of folks I recognized from high school But yeah, that's it

That's all I got Now Jesse asked, did I touch the Stanley Cup? And my answer was an emphatic No, I did not touch the Stanley Cup Why? Why didn't you touch the Stanley Cup? Because what if I jinx the Leafs, Jesse?

What if? Tell me how that makes sense I cheer for the Leafs I touch the cup I'm not supposed to touch the cup Therefore I'd be jinxing them It is real And affects them

No that's sound logic Yeah Just like watching from his couch Versus anyone else's Would have changed the outcome Of the Boston Bruins series I still say someone moved And that's why they lost

Someone moved And Jake Gardner's play fell off a cliff And Freddie couldn't stop anything It was like someone stuck a Like a voodoo doll needle Right through his head That's exactly what happened

It's all because they moved a popcorn bowl A quarter of an inch to the left And that's why the Leafs lost game 7 I'm going to make a definitive list of things Steve came away with That day 1. He got soaked 2. His mom carries a raincoat Ah, great lasagna from his mom's house

That's also true I didn't get any food 3. Wasted 90 minutes of his life Four Not a picture with DSP Five Not a You got a picture with the Stanley Cup?

Yeah he did I got a picture with the Stanley Cup Alright Which by the way So I wait in line all that time I get my picture with the Stanley Cup And then they're like alright next And I just stand to the side

And I'm like Where do I get my picture? Where's the picture? And they're like oh Oh you gotta go to his website And I'm like oh Okay cool So it was up on

Devante Smith-Pelly's website later on Did you see it? I saw it. It's I forgot to take off the rain jacket So I'm just wearing my uncle's rain jacket in this stupid-ass picture with the Washington Capitals flag behind it No It is an Italian uncle, but on the English side, okay? It's complicated. I would Jesse I hope I hope his picture and this will only work for the YouTube. Oh, yeah Steve like this

Can you make one? Yeah, can you make... What's Devante Smith-Pelly's website? I don't know. Google Devante Smith-Pelly website. It's not coming up. I don't know. Mrs. Dangle found it.

I didn't bother looking for it. I typed it in. Not even coming up. So you didn't get the picture either. No, I did get the picture. I tweeted it here. Did you tweet it? No, I deleted it off my phone, so...

I can't find it. It's on my Twitter. It's probably... Go on media. Jesse, you probably could find... I just might think it might be a waste of your day. It might have been a waste of my day. Also, screw every major news organization in the city

for, like, parking right on the friggin' corner. It's like this tight residential street, and, like, I'm not going to single anyone out, because it was all of them. Oh, yeah, so I forgot to mention this part. The mayor was there. The mayor of Toronto. Oh, I was about to say, which city?

Was there. But he didn't show up to Tom Wilson's. Interesting. No, I don't know. I don't know. He might have. So apparently he said something about handguns that morning and then didn't give a comment.

And everyone, it was basically, well, if you want a comment from him, you're going to have to go to where he is, which is this event today. So everyone on top of, oh, we'll get this cool sports story. The Stanley Cup was in Toronto today. And also we talked to Mayor John Tory about guns. And it was just a mess. So here's the other thing that I struggle with. I struggle with lining up to see the Stanley Cup

when it's available all the time at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto. Like, if you're from California and it's in your neighborhood, I get that. But we literally, I live several blocks from where the Stanley Cup is 90% of the time.

I thought I'd be able to meet the man, the myth, the legend, DSP. I mean, that's cool, but like... Wait, why do you have to meet him? I just thought I could ask him a couple questions for... If I'm there and I'm in front of him, I'm going to be able to go, hey, man, like, can I borrow you for three minutes?

Which is fine. And not now, but later. Also, I don't think that's going to happen. The man is there to take pictures with people. Yeah, but I... You got to give it a shot. No, once he's done taking pictures with people, then you go, hey, man, you got a minute.

So you were going to wait around until the event was done. I gave it a shot. Also, I wanted to go back to my old neighborhood. See, I don't mind that. I don't mind that. That's okay. I get that. You know, you're trying to get some content.

I understand that. And no, I didn't go in there with my Sportsnet badge. Excuse me, everyone. I'm different than you. But I had spoken to the person, and he said maybe. So I went there on a maybe. And I didn't get it. Sometimes you come up empty-handed.

Again. That's life. So that's always the thing that... But I didn't... I wasn't empty-handed. I got to meet cool people. No, that's cool. I got to meet people in the lineup.

I'm sure. I got a notification today that I'm at my data limit. So apparently it was a long IG live stream. How many people tuned in? Lots? I'm sure a lot. It was it was a bunch I don't I don't have the final number. It was a good bunch. It's a solid bushel Did you throw the video up on your YouTube channel? No, you should. You wanna monetize it? Download and throw it up on YouTube. I don't know if it's relevant enough for YouTube. I don't know. Okay, Jesse's the social media expert. He's telling me to do that

Maybe I'll do that. Hey, I got carpet today So I'm gonna go back to shooting videos very soon because the basement is almost complete and Jesse found the picture And I'm surprised you're not laughing yet Shut the hell up with my khaki rain jacket Yeah, show that show the camera stupid. Oh, it's you with Andrew. Yeah. Okay. Well now it now I like it Because someone else is in it You like it I saw it

I was like Oh that's nice But here's the thing You can see the Stanley Cup If you're from Toronto Any time of the year For like 20 bucks In the warmth

Oh I know Or air conditioning I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna get out of line Once I realized I'm like okay Well I've been waiting here I'm soaked

Oh I might as well Just go home now I'm just gonna drive back To Oshawa and sulk Right Okay. All right. And also, I waited for a little while after I got my picture to see if he'd respond.

He didn't respond. Whatever. He was busy. He was having his day with the cup. I don't begrudge him. Yeah, absolutely. He was having a whale of a time. Devante Smith-Pelly is a great Instagram follow.

Really? I should follow him. All the Caps anarchy, like the day of the parade and everything, he was a super underrated follow. Bunch of really cool stories and stuff. He posted a story of There was a girl drinking out of the Stanley Cup But like upside down and backwards

It just seems like the best thing ever To win the Stanley Cup And God I'm jealous I'm sure they had a blast with it honestly Okay Wayne Gretzky Yes I'm so behind

When was the last time you heard Wayne Gretzky in the news for anything? What's the last Wayne Gretzky related? Maybe when I met him for that Canadian Tire thing It was the Edmonton Oilers reunion thingy that they brought back to all the players. Also known as

their management team. The Father's Day campaign that I helped out with. Ah. Yes. That's right, me too. What was that? It was for

because he's got a whiskey. Wayne Gretzky Estates. Ah. So they did a campaign. His dad is Walter and he talked about how his dad was awesome growing up.

So the campaign was about like who was your Walter? My Walter. My dad was my Walter. My two. There you go. So everyone's dad is their Walter.

Well, not necessarily. It doesn't have to be your dad. What a great campaign. It is. Your mom could be your Walter, I guess. Yeah. Or your uncle or whatever. Your dog.

Absolutely. Iggy is my Walter. I don't know. What do you think about Wayne Gretzky representing a KHL team? Okay, yeah. I'm going in totally cold on this one. I haven't heard this story at all. Okay, so Wayne Gretzky is the official global ambassador.

Like Drake. For the Chinese KHL team, Kunlun Red Star. That's cool. Okay. Yeah. Now, they're based out of Beijing, and this is to help raise the profile of hockey in China ahead of the 2022 Olympics.

They're trying to develop the game in China. At least they're trying. Now, this says a couple things to me. First, they're trying to get young people involved in hockey in China. Okay. Is Wayne the guy? What makes you say young? That's what they say in the press release.

They said they want young people. They want to get young people into it. Is Wayne the guy you choose? No. Wayne is not the guy I choose. Not at all. No offense to Wayne. No, but like that is...

Dude, we talk about Matt Sundin on this show. And like, oh man, remember that 2002 run? And there's people who were like, dude, I was like... I was born that year. I was not born. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

And Gretzky retired in 99. Gretzky will focus on youth development in China, including a planned KRS Gretzky Hockey School, which is cool. That will provide advanced training for players 8 to 17 in Beijing and the Southern Tech Hub of Sichuan, the whole province,

eventually expanding to at least 20 locations nationwide, which is very cool. Yeah. Sorry, just another thing on Gretzky. Like, do you remember Prime Gretzky? No, you don't. No. You weren't alive.

No. Neither of us were alive, and we're both 30 years old. Like, we don't remember Prime Gretzky. That was probably, I would say, 35 years ago, 34 years ago. Like 85, 86 when he was scoring like 200 a year. It's just bonkers. Yeah, we don't remember prime Gretzky.

So anyone younger than us is, we're already useless, and they're just absolutely hopeless. They don't remember a thing. This also says, so for the second year, the NHL is holding a promotional game in China. The Boston Bruins and Calgary Flames will be in Szechuan. Oh, sorry, Szechuan. I said Szechuan.

I don't know. It's Sension? Cheshwan is a sauce. I was about to say Rick and Morty. Dude, I didn't even challenge it because I'm like, maybe that's where the sauce is from. No, it is. It's Sension.

Sorry, my bad. Sension. I read it wrong. September 15th and in Beijing, September 19th. So they're going to play two promotional games there. They did that last year, Canucks and someone. The second thing this tells me is that the NHL is absolutely going to China for the Olympics.

Ah, interesting. Well, I mean, that was... No, their plan the whole time has been to go to the Olympics in China. I don't think that was ever up for debate. It's the IOC, or the double IHF, I can't remember which one, who was like, no, no, no, no, no. You can't just skip one and then show up a couple years later. And I think Gary Bettman's going to say, yeah, we can.

And I think Gary Bettman's going to be right. I think so, too. What, are they going to turn him down? What, are they allergic to money? I'm sorry. Like, let's just be straight. The Olympics, how much Olympic hockey did you watch from this...

You know what? The Olympic hockey that I did watch was awesome. Sure. It was fun because I tuned into a few great games.

The hockey was not marvelous. But let's talk about... Forget about the quality of play. Most fans don't care about the quality of play. Most fans do not care. Let's be... No, seriously.

It's a bold take. Oh, it's true. Come on. You think the fans really care too much? It's the names that sell the game here. Do you want to see

a guy who was drafted in the sixth round who didn't quite cut it? play for Team Canada, or do you want to see Sidney Crosby play for Canada? There were basically no names. Yeah. Yeah. Like, is it Mason Raymond that you want to see?

Or is it Sidney Crosby? Yes, first of all, yes. Right. Second of all, yes. So if you're a hockey nerd, and everybody, I understand everybody going to the Olympics said, you shouldn't denigrate these guys, and I'm not denigrating them, but let's not pretend that that star power not being there didn't affect it. Like 5% of hockey fans even know who 10% of these guys are.

Show me the ratings. Show me the television ratings. Now, I know they were in the middle of the night, but show me the television ratings and tell me that there wasn't a noticeable, discernible difference. Yeah, but if there's a gold medal game on Canada with Crosby, McDavid, etc. versus the States, if that's on at 11 at night, people are watching that. I think they're going to watch it. Wait, what? No, you were talking about how it was at night. Yeah.

So disadvantage Which is true But if all the big names Are there And it's on 11 at night Yes Oh yeah You make a time of it

Sochi was on like Early in the morning We watched it Nagano was too Sure Well now you're going back To when I was 10 years old I got up early

Well 4am If the guys are there You're watching no matter what Totally Yeah It's like having the World Cup Without Ronaldo and Messi

Like I I'm sorry But you just You don't throw a World Cup And I I think I think what's interesting about this is the double IHF

is trying to play tough guy here and I think the NHL is going to win I haven't heard them say anything else well of course we won't hear anything until the lockout's over but what I find extremely interesting about this is I wonder what it does

to international hockey if the NHL wins this one as in they get everything they want and they sort of bully the double IHF and maybe the IOC as well and say all right well we won't send our players well hopefully it ends up being the right call like listen okay well i know i wonder if the nhl though becomes more of a global power and and relegates the double ihf to secondary status which it might already be anyway it already is like what decisions

do they make that anyone cares about nhl isn't even double ihf rules who cares seriously who cares the nhl players have to bend to the double ihf rules at the olympics and that's it and then when they start playing in the nhl we're like ah back to real hockey thank goodness you know i my hatred for the nhl in skipping the uh korea olympics is well documented but they're going to come out on top and they're probably going to come out right uh they're going to come out having no pushback from the IOC. There's going to be some posturing and all that, but ultimately

they're going to go. There's going to be anticipation because, oh, the NHL is back! And hockey's going to be more popular after it. They're going to come out the winners. There is no justice.

Sorry, everybody. I wish there was. I wish Sidney Crosby dumped Gary Bettman's head in the toilet and give him a swirly but it's just not going to happen

the bad guys win oh of course do you remember leading up to this past Olympics there were all that talk about oh Ovechkin's

going to boycott the NHL and those games he's going to go to Sochi and play for them and all the Russian athletes

they're going to go over there and some Canadians are even going to go play for them none of that happened and everyone's just like okay we're going to

play our games we're not going and Russia won gold and Ovechkin won anyway yeah what justice none there's no and by the way we're talking about like it's all NHL good guy IOC or sorry NHL bad guy IOC good guy it got brought

up I think it was by Greg Wyshynski the other day like whenever like okay when Jerome McGinley retired the other day the golden goal where he sets up Crosby they're showing pictures you know why because they won't give away those rights. Bunch of rotten jerks. They both suck.

And I'm going to watch every game. IOC, IHF, NHL, it's like three bad guys fighting each other. You're not, there is no good guy in this situation. It's heel versus heel. Yeah. Except none of them can work a mic. They all stink! It stinks!

Imagine a conversation between Rene Fussell and Gary Vettman. Both lawyeristic. I mean, Gary's actually a lawyer. I don't know if Rene Fussell is. And both Extremely boring. I hate that I know Rene Fussell's name. Like, I hate that I know who you're talking about

when you say his name. I hate that I can picture him. I don't... Yet I couldn't tell you who the... Off the top of my head, anyway, who the leading scorer in the Swedish Elite League was last year. Or the KHL.

And I should know that. I should... I can look that up. Franz Ferdinand. Ah! Yes. Si. Si.

That's how on top the NHL is and how far down the rung every other league is. and that's why the NHL is going to win. They're going to get their way and they're going to go. Yeah, and do you think that China is going to be cool? They paid all this money for the Olympics.

I don't know. They did all this work for the Olympics and the IOC is going to say, sorry, we couldn't come to an agreement with the NHL. The Chinese government is going to go, well, then figure it out. Yeah, because of the posturing.

Pay them what they want. Bring the stars. They'll figure it out. The NHL will be at the Olympics in 2022. Does Wayne Gretzky get to play for China? He does not get to play for China. Is that, that's not part of his contract? No, no.

He doesn't get to play for the Chinese Olympic team? No. Probably will. See, if I was Wayne Gretzky, I would write that into my contract. I get some sort of citizenship. I don't think Wayne wants to do that. Okay. If Wayne Gretzky was on the Chinese Olympic team, is he the best player?

No. Today? No, they've got some good young players, man. You'd be surprised. There's a couple of phenoms coming out of Japan, too. Yep. What percentage of peak Wayne Gretzky is Wayne Gretzky right now? He is probably.

Maybe a percent Absolutely not One percent No Nope That's a big old If he's been on his skates Six times in the last year

I'd be surprised He's not Gary Roberts Like just Fitness man Picking up heavy stuff And putting it back down Like every day

Like no He's a He's like a dad How many How many professional Hockey players At an elite level Are on the Chinese

Olympic team At an elite level Say that again How many elite level professional hockey players are on the Chinese Olympic team? Oh,

I can't think of any. Zero. Is Cliff Poo Chinese? He's Canadian, is he not? No way. So, he might get on

because of one of those, like, he's got ancestry, sort of, it's like your parents need to be or your grandparents, something like that.

I mean, he's from Richmond Hill. You can do that. Brad Hall is a perfect example of a guy who did that. Yeah. You can do that. Well,

and a number of Canadian Go and play for Germany And England Yep Yep Absolutely it happens I just don't think Cliff Pooh's gonna do that

Something tells me The Islanders have a draft pick Who's from China Like actually from China I don't know man Dude Wayne Gretzky's like He's like 47

Or something like that And he's not Jager 47 He's I haven't really done A whole hell of a lot Since 1999 47

Actually he's probably Older than 47 If he stopped playing in 99 Yep. Come on, Jesse. Come on now. This guy? Look at him!

Come on, man. You want to give him a hug. You don't want to play hockey against him. I think you don't. If you're the greatest player to ever do something, how much of that are you losing in 15 years? So let's ask Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to play for Team Canada. Okay, the answer is almost instantly.

How dare you? They are, all right. It's a different country who's not good at basketball. They're actually good. They're very good now, yeah. The answer, Jesse, is almost instantly. You're training to be the best every day. You wake up best.

Lunchtime, best. Go to bed, best. Hit the ice, best. If you're the best at anything, you're constantly working to be the best. Yeah. And you're honing those skills. He's not just hopping on the ice with no practice. We're giving him four years.

He'll be four years older. No, but he's training. He doesn't want to do that Modern medicine He doesn't want to do that We can rebuild him Let's say he wants to do this If Wayne Gretzky wants to come back

And his decision is I'm going to play for the Chinese Olympic team And this is going to be my comeback In China, Olympics 2022 I'm going to play on the fourth line Chinese Olympic team This is insulting to Chinese hockey He can't even do it? Yes he can

Okay, okay. Jesse's, how much further does this conversation have to go before Jesse goes, okay, you're telling me Cyber Gretzky wouldn't make fourth line? Cyber Gretzky from Mars. Yeah, Borg Gretzky is not going to play fourth line for the Chinese hockey team. I think we saw Michael Jordan retire twice and come back

at ridiculous ages and just not play basketball. Okay, but he didn't leave athletics. all together and I refuse to believe the second time he did and then he came back and played for the Wizards

and he was terrible but he could still play in the NBA yeah but I refuse to believe he just stopped training all together I refuse to believe

that Wayne Gretzky can't hop on skates and still be decent he could destroy most rec leagues still yeah

probably every rec league in the world ask anybody in their late 40s how their body feels just generally when they wake up

in the morning like talking about like rotation and talking about your hips and your knees and like all the things that go into hockey you know the the amount of ankle damage that you get from playing hockey for 30 or 40 years regularly like it like being an athlete is not good for you by the way it's terrible for your body it's horrendous i met bobby bond who is like an old man elder he's in his 80s and i just you look at him and he's still got that twinkle in his eye but it just

looks like every joint in his body is so sore. Johnny Bauer God rest his soul he like couldn't bend his fingers. Watch Shaq walk. I can't picture him dance

that's it. He can dance better than he can walk man. You ever seen him walk on that TNT set? He can't walk I want to hug his knees I want to help him. Every sport is bad for your knees. Totally. Name one sport

that's good for your knees. Elliptical. Like Olympic elliptical. Is that a thing? That's it. It's terrible. Anyway, Jesse. I think

You're wrong. I love you. Yeah, you're underestimating the skill of Wayne Gretzky at this age if you gave him four years of practice.

I think he could crack an Olympic team. First of all, no. Second of all, I don't remember which one of you it was. I think it was you brought up a great point.

It's going to be interesting to see who is like obviously not Chinese born but is able to play for China because like

South Korea was just like this Matt Johnson or whatever his name was because he's lived here for a couple years can play for our team yeah and it's like

you're obviously not going to crack team Canada so why not go for your parents country or your grandparents country

and do that and be an Olympian and the Olympics are less than four years away so the people who are going to do that

are going to head there relatively soon I'm excited to see who does it you know You know, Dylan Larkin has tweeted that there are some contract-related things coming. Wait, what?

I'm sorry, he didn't tweet it. He said, something's coming. Larkin promised Tuesday afternoon, this is a Luke Fox article on Sportsnet.ca, following an intense skills training session alongside Connor McDavid and other NHLers. He said, I've been told everyone I think, I've told everyone I think it'll be before training camp. It's right there. I'm just waiting to iron out the details. What does a skills camp between Conor McDavid and Dylan Larkin look like?

Is it just two blurs going back and forth, like Goku fighting Vegeta? Like, just two different color blurs? I think so. I think so. And I wonder what that contract looks like, because, you know, we're talking about William Nylander. I mean, is Dylan Larkin not a pretty good comparable? Can you look up his numbers? Well, I will. I'm doing that right now. But I also think, too, Dylan Larkin, you could argue,

is more important to the Red Wings than William Nylander is to the Leafs. You know what? Maybe. And you know what's funny is the past few shows, whenever the Red Wings have come up, I realize I know so little about them because they just haven't been a factor in the National Hockey League for like two years.

Right. So Dylan Larkin for the last— It's true. They have not been relevant in the National Hockey League. And that's of their own choice. Yeah. The decisions that they currently make. You can't know every team inside and out.

And if you're going to let a couple teams drop off, that's a pretty good choice over the past couple years. So Dylan Larkin. No offense. The last three years. 34 points, 37 points, 61 points last year. And he's played all but four games over those last three seasons. So he's played three full seasons.

Three full seasons. Whereas Nylander's just got the two and a half. Two and a half. But his first crack at 60, I mean, Nylander has two 61-point seasons in a row. Larkin's got one. Larkin's got what again? Really has better numbers.

34, 37, 61. Yeah, I mean, I think, listen, I think he's the lower end comparable. Yeah. I don't think you're giving... But I also think it's interesting. I think you pay more when your team sucks. My theory is that if Dylan Larkin's your guy

and he really is their guy, like even if Tennessee didn't really... I don't think he's worked out the way they hoped he would. I think they were seeing him as like a power forward, dominant in the NHL. Oh, I was furious when the Red Wings drafted him. I thought he was going to be sick. And he's good.

He still might be. Yeah, but he's not. It doesn't look like he's going to be the showstopper that we thought he would be. Right. He's going to be a, you know, he could be a nice guy to have in your bottom six. He's got some skill, maybe like a shootout specialist sort of guy. But I look at, let's have a look at daily faceoff. Dylan Larkin is a center, so that ups his value already.

and then you got the fact that Detroit is not deep at any position. Damn. They are good at nothing. He broke 20 goals once. And he,

Henrik Zetterberg, like right now, Tyler Bertuzzi, Dylan Larkin, and Anthony Mantha are your top, top line. That's the top line?

Followed by Vanek Zetterberg and maybe Zedina. Okay. That's what daily is. Now. What do they have? It has Bertuzzi,

Tyler Bertuzzi, Dylan Larkin, and Anthony Mantha. I think Philip Zadina is going to replace Anthony Mantha on that top line I'm just throwing that out there

I like Mantha I think Zadina's no but I think Zadina needs like a high end playmaker I would also even like throw out Vanek on the first line just if that's your

Tyler Bertuzzi is not a first line player right now Andreas Athanasiu Franz Nielsen and Gustav Nyquist on the third and then Abdelkader

Glenn Danning and Hill it's funny because like you just reading that roster out loud it's not bad it doesn't register as awful

because a lot of those guys were touted as guys who, like, watch, they're only going to get better. And then a bunch of them didn't. Like, remember what a monster Gustav Nyquist was when he came into the league? Huge. Crazy. He had that, what, 20-game streak.

It was something like that. That was the last Mike Babcock season, and they went on that crazy run to make the playoffs one more time. Yeah, because of him. Yeah. He dragged, like, if he just kept that going, if he continued to be that monster, It's an unsustainable thing, but if you're like three-quarters of it.

And now he's 28 and not getting better. Which year was that? I don't think he even, oh my God, it must have been that one. 13-14 in 57 games, he had 28 goals, 20 assists, 48 points. Since then? What a monster. Since then, he had 27 goals the next season, but that was a full 82-game season,

followed by 17, 12, and last year, 21. Okay. So he's somewhere in the early 20s in goal scoring. Yeah, but you see a guy score, what is it, 28 goals in 57 games. That's roughly like a 40-goal pace, something like that. And you go, well, maybe he's consistently 30. And he's just not that. And you could go, and you need guys like that,

but you just go up and down that whole roster. But he's a third-line guy. You watch Darren Helm is going to wreck world. Nope. No. This guy and that guy and that guy. I think whatever William Nylander's contract is, and I think it's going to be between 6 and 6.25 per year.

I think it's going to be the full 8. I think they're going full bore on this one. I think both Larkin and Nylander start with a 6. Absolutely. But I don't... I almost wonder if Dylan Larkin maybe makes a little bit more because Dylan Larkin is the only guy. Nylander is...

I hope so. Let's be honest. On the depth chart of the top players on this team, in terms of forwards, right? We're not counting defense in this. Nylander's fourth right now. Uh, arguably. Yeah, some people might put him above Marner.

Some people, yeah, okay, fine. So maybe tied for third. Regardless. Tavares and Matthews and, yeah. Dylan Larkin, because Henrik Zetterberg's not Henrik Zetterberg anymore. Dylan Larkin's number one. And he's going to retire, like, any minute now. Yeah.

Yeah? Yeah. And the whole thing about bad teams is you have to pay someone. You have to get to the floor. Yes, you do. You have to get the minimum. Dude, look at the Leafs. You have to give anybody money.

They might be near the cap, though. The Red Wings have spent poorly. But It's very true They get spent very poorly They pay everyone You have to pay someone They pay literally everyone

Yeah you gotta You gotta pay everyone Justin applicator Everyone to get something Dude look at The contracts that the Leafs Handed out FNUF

Like imagine Like Kessel Imagine those Leafs Without FNUF though Oh brutal Matt Henrik was his line mate Yeah alright Go ahead and do it without me

Go ahead and put someone else Next to Mike Koska all right dion when you put it that way here's 7.1 million dollars yeah yeah yep phil we're not going to give you eight million dollars okay you throw someone else out there tell you what phil here's eight million dollars that we're just going to retain on almost immediately have fun winning cups with a better team we're going to pay you 1.2 million dollars to win two cups in a row literally literally what happened and then and then this is i don't know who it was that convinced morgan riley and nazem kadri that they were worth five and four point five

blue amorello with a gun in his hand or something like those are amazing deals and when they signed them the team was garbage garbage so bad the leafs are very which in that situation probably helped that they were bad yeah the lower because they were younger and unproven they weren't

fun off at the time well and with Nas I remember seeing the 4.5 and going boy I hope he lives up to that because he was coming off the worst

season of his career I just want to run through some of the Detroit contracts for you oh boy I love this game that we play sometimes

oh my god we've done this we have done this and I think we've done this with Detroit so Zetterberg even if he retires I believe they still

have to pay him because he's got one of those weird deals no he should get Sick. Oh, how dare you? Jesse, what if he's allergic to his equipment for the first time after 17 years? How dare you?

After 17 years, just when we're about to go over, oh, thank goodness for this allergy. What if Henrik's leg Zeta breaks? You're going to hell for that alone. The Hosa thing is one of my, again, I bring them up. Like we're Toronto fans. We can't exactly poke too much fun. No, we have a whole island. We have a whole island.

I'm bringing him up again, but Greg Wyshynski, he won't let the Marian Hossa thing go. And he's like, okay, two things can be true here at the same time. He's allergic to his equipment, and the contract is utter shenanigans. Both are true. Whereas Zetterberg, and we would have to look it up, but I remember we talked about it on the show at one point. Didn't he straight up say to a Swedish newspaper,

like, oh, yeah, I'm retiring this year. And you're like, what? Beg your pardon, sir. There's actually like two years left on your contract. Oh, well, you don't want to play for a million dollars because that was the plan the whole time. By the way, he signed that deal. Like, no wonder those contracts are illegal.

He signed that deal in 2009, 2010. His salary, his actual salary this year, and here's why he's retiring. Still going. He's got $3.5 million to make next year. After that, it's $1 million and $1 million for the next two seasons. Henry Zetterberg goodbye tour, everybody.

Yeah, the cap hit is $6 million. but he's making only 3.35. Prime Henrik Zetterberg was six million bucks against the cap. Prime Henrik

Zetterberg. Yeah. Yep. Travesty. Yep. Prime Duncan Keith, 5.1. What was the

percentage of cap? Yeah, it was much bigger, man. everyone's like, oh my god, Crosby's only 8.7, but his percentage of the

cap is like a few percentage points lower than McDavid's currently is. When he signed that deal, that was a big contract. That's fat.

That's a fat contract. Still And it was what 12 years He was so good He primed Zetterberg Was so good

He made 70 He's gonna make 71 million dollars Of the 73 He was promised Yeah Minus those two Unless he

Unless he develops An allergy to bees And they trade him to Arizona Where there are no bees I'm sure there are bees In Arizona I was like Where's

What Who needs I'm allergic to auto parts Oh we'll trade you To Arizona then You know what's gonna be great Is when the coyotes Do this again

next year. They're going to win a cup on this, man. It's unbelievable. You don't think so? The Arizona Coyotes. The Cup Yotes is what you're going to call them. Wow. They're going to win a Stanley Cup.

Yeah, the Cup Yotes. Alright. You think your dog leaves out of a silver bowl? They drink out of a silver cup because they're the Cup Yotes. The era Stanley Cup Yotes. No. It's great.

The Aristale and Cappiotis. And they did it all. And they're going to do it all. Place the cup above his head. C etched into his helmet. I'm pretty sure, by the way, pretty sure that his contract still counts against the cap

even if he retires. Am I right on that? Yeah. No. No? Pretty sure no. Why not? I don't remember.

But he's got one of those weird back-loaded ones. Yeah. I thought those counted. Because, like, Hosa, that's why the Coyotes have Hosa and Dave Bolin. But Dave Bolin signed after. He signed after the lockout. Oh, no, but you just do the same thing, where you send them to the Era Cup.

Era Stanley Cup Biotis. After this season, Bolin's 5.5 comes off, so the Coyotes will need some more. They will need to get to the floor. We need some more money. There you go. No, you're right. You're in Zetterberg.

They don't have Pronger anymore either. They don't. Coyote's legend Pronger. Chris Pronger. That cap recapture thing is confusing. Yeah, I don't know. Somebody will know. We need to get cap friendly on.

Interestingly. So anyway, that's just Zetterberg. But let's have a look at some of the other deals. Okay, so Zetterberg. We were doing that. Yeah, so Franz Nielsen is 34 years old right now. No. Yes.

Franz Nielsen has a modified no trade and a no move clause. Remember when that was like fancy? Yeah. And like no one had it?

Hell. Franz Nielsen is making 5.25 until he's 38. 2022. Now, he'll lose one of those years because of the pending lockout.

No! Even after the lockout's done, he's going to make 5 million dollars. Put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. Gustav Nyquist, who needs to be

re-signed next year, he's making 4.75 million. Don't think he's going to make that much after next year. What was he getting? If he's a consistent 20 goal scorer, yeah. I think he gets about that. Justin Abdelkader.

31. Left wing, right wing. No trade clause. Full no trade. Unreal. 4.25 million dollars every single year until 2022-2023. When he'll be 36. Johan

Franzen. On the IR. Another one of those goofy deals. This is IR, though. Well, and he's legitimately, like, can't play. Yeah, he's actually, like, yeah. Darren Hill. Okay. He can play center, left wing, and right wing, and that's why they gave him a no-trade clause as well.

Didn't he score a hat-trick against the Leafs? I'm sure he did. Everybody did at one point. $3.85 million. He's 31. He'll make that until he's 34. So, three more seasons. You know what? Because of all the other ones

you just listed off I'm like that's not bad if that deal was on the Leafs it would be the thing that everybody he would be their

he'd be the Connor Brown I don't nobody hates Connor Brown's contract but everybody seems to dump on Connor Brown

and I'm completely in total disagreement with you on that by the way you know how many people I love Connor Brown kick the internet

door down going I hate that contract stupid Darren Helm 3.85 million dollars and then Anthony Mantha has got a good term 3.3 for the next

two years. Thomas Vanek just re-signed for the one year for $3 million. At Fantasy, he's got $6 million over the next two. And then you get into the Luke Glenn Denning, so it's $1.8 million for three more years of Luke Glenn Denning. You just don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. Can we play

a game? Yeah. Can we pause? Okay. Play a game? Yep. Alright. Since being traded from the Buffalo Sabres, name all of the teams that Thomas Vanek played for. Ooh! Adam Wild and Steve Diggle. So he was on the black, gray, and red Buffalo Sabres.

Mm-hmm. With the funny logo, the terrible logo. They had an old red jersey at one point. He was traded then to the Islanders. Yes. Nailed it.

Who then flipped him. That's actually where the curse of everything happening after the podcast happened. It was the Thomas Vanik trade to the Islanders. That's where it started. Because he was traded to the Islanders

for far too much. Ten minutes after the show ended. Like, it was ridiculous. Far too much. And then he signed a big, fat, ridiculous contract with the Wild. No, no, no.

Before that, he was flipped to Montreal. In between that, Steve is correct. When was he flipped to Montreal? The next season? The same season. That same season. Because New York fell out of it. Yeah.

And he just fell off a cliff. Then, no, I think before he went to Minnesota, he was with someone else. Who was it? Adam's more right. Oh, Adam's more right. So it was then Minnesota. And it was a pretty big contract, wasn't it?

Was it the Islanders he signed a big fat extension with? He just kept getting traded at the deadline Yeah Yeah, so you guys have got The timeline correct So it was Buffalo Then flipped to the Islanders Then same season flipped to Canadians

Then that offseason he signs with Minnesota Right Plays till the 2016 offseason with Minnesota Then he signs with Detroit There you go Oh, it was Detroit And then what happens?

He was traded to Who was he traded to? Vancouver No Not yet Not yet Not yet Right, because he did go to Vancouver.

Why did he go to Vancouver? Detroit traded him to someone. Wasn't he like a non-factor? It wasn't Chicago. Detroit traded him to somebody at the deadline. That was Hansel. I want to say Minnesota again. No.

Or something. No? Who did they trade him to? Was it someone in the East? He was a total non-factor. Was it Florida? Florida! Hey!

That's right. He did? Detroit flips him to Florida at the deadline, plays 20 games with Florida, Scores two goals Has eight assists And they don't make The playoffs do they?

The 16-17 season? They might have No I think they did That was the Pre-computer voice That was the galant season Okay Actually

He doesn't have any Playoff games that year That doesn't mean He didn't play very well Or he might have got scratched And then he went to Vancouver So that offseason Signed in Vancouver

He signs in Vancouver Who traded him Who trades him This past year to Buffalo or Detroit? Who did he just Who did you finish the year with? No, it wasn't Detroit.

No? Why do I feel like he's played for Minnesota four times? No, he's only played there that one stint. Nashville? Who did Thomas Maddox finish the season with? This is bananas. It's nobody on that list. It's a new team.

And they went to the playoffs, and he scored a goal and had one assist. They had a six-game series against... Columbus? Hey! You're right. Because we were like, how is Tortorella going to have Vannick? He doesn't play defense. And he just signed, re-signed, I guess.

Or no, it wouldn't be re-signed. Yeah, so he signed with Detroit. So that timeline plays from the 05-06 season to 13-14 with Buffalo. Then he goes New York, Montreal, Minnesota, Detroit, Florida, Vancouver, Columbus. Now Detroit. That's Tomic's fan. And that was the guy the Sabres dug in for. Remember that?

Yep We talk about like Sundin being good as ancient Remember the powerhouse Buffalo Sabres? Oh yeah Of like 06, 07 They were good They were really good Chris Drury signs a monster deal with the Rangers

So the Sabres lose him This is before the Pagoulas came on board So the Sabres didn't really have the money to challenge these teams And then yeah, their team Danny Breer Danny Breer, yeah Signs his who was a monster Montreal

went to Montreal no Philly Philly right and was good for them as well and then the Oilers come along

that's the 05-06 Buffalo Super 05 oh my god Tim Connolly in 77 games Maxim Afinaganov had 73 points

yeah how many of you are like who Chris Drury 67 points in 81 games this is back when

people scored Alex Kotelik had 62 points In 82 games I remember not liking that guy For no other reason Other than he played For the stupid Sabres

Basically everyone Had a career year Was this the Buffalo Slug jersey too? No This was No this was the Red and black Sabres

Oh which is cool That was a cool jersey Daniel Breer This is when the Sabres Beat the Leafs Literally every single time They played them I hated them

Oh it was terrible Danny Breer had 58 points In 48 games Ryan Miller was the goalie Yes And you couldn't You couldn't beat The friggin guy

He was so good Ryan Miller had such a stretch and by such a stretch I mean he was actually a really good goalie he's just at the end of his career now man

he's still decent I'm trying to find a bad player Tim Connolly 55 points in 63 games Vanek 48 points in 81 games but he had 25 goals

Derek Roy who was it was like a depth center on that team was so good 48 points in 81 games or sorry 46 points in 70 games

I was looking at the guy above him Brian Campbell oh what a hit by Campbell when he friggin ended R.J. Umberg 44 points

as a defenseman in 79 games RJ Umberger Blue Jackets legend RJ Umberger Blue Jackets legend and then there's a bunch of guys

who were like I only remember as being good on the Sabres but they were good for the Sabres who were they Jokin Hecht

oh yeah remember him 42 points he got traded to Chicago or something and he was terrible wasn't he like he got traded

oh I don't even remember but he never looked right not on the Sabres by the way everyone welcome to the August 8th edition of a hockey podcast I don't give a hecht

about him oh heavens Adam J.P. Dumont 40 points in 54 games 20 of those points were goals how far down the depth chart

have we gotten we're still hitting 20 goal scores Teppo Newman the population of Plymouthville is on that team they had a lot of injuries

to deal with 30 points but that was only in 57 games Teppo Newman is a legend by the way that's an underrated defenseman

underrated defenseman that guy did some big things with terrible teams pre getting traded for a first round pick Paul Gostad oh my god

Mike Greer was on this team. Henrik Talinder, Dimitri Kalinin, Tony Lidman, Jay McKee, Taylor Pyatt, Rory Fitzpatrick! Almost all-star. Former Leaf Adam Mayer. I'm not going to go through the

whole damn team. I pretty much did. Though I almost did. And you know what's amazing? Ryan Miller, 9-14. Like as far as Ryan Miller's seasons go. But that's 0-5-0-6, 9-14. Wait, oh, is this the 0-5-0-6 team? Yeah, yeah. So you looked at the wrong team. Oh, it's next year.

the next year they were even better sorry my bad guys holy shit danny briere 95 points in 81 games wow vanik by the way everyone who's like how come vanik keeps getting signed vanik 43 goals 41 assists 84 uh points in 82 games chris drury 69 points palminville 68 derrick roy 63 brought back the whole band yeah oh yeah like everyone again having the career

of their lives it's interesting when the crash started a season of their lives one of the I think one of the one of the companies

that went under in the crash in 08 was the company that owned the Sabres if I'm not mistaken so that's part of the reason why when those guys all left

it was like 08-09 Miller was a 914 what the hell anyway I might be mistaken I don't think so though monsters like they were all

either prime or young like I'm just looking at all their top scores it's actually pretty shocking that any of those guys are even still playing

like Vanek is still playing the fact that Vanek can still get something for him at the deadline like Columbus is picking him up for a run

oh yeah he's made some money that guy holy anyway Chris Drury left the team boatload of money

Sabres are like damn we lost him Breer leaves the team boatload of money Sabres are like damn we lost him Oilers come in and they try to get Vanek

and at the amount of money they were signing him for it would have been like four first round picks something gross like that right but the sabers to save face were like no we're not losing a third guy they held on to him and he was never if i'm not mistaken let me go look at his numbers never able to really repeat it yep 43 goals then down to 36 40 again he was still pretty good for a while but he goes from 84 points to 64 64 53 he had a 73 resurgence 61 that's not bad 41 he was still

consistent. He was consistent but they offered him it was something like seven I want to say it was over seven million which at the time was a stupid amount of your cap. Thomas Vanik, man. What a trip down memory

lane. The red and black sabers. Has anyone in the NHL's history ever been luckier with money than Thomas Vanik? He's still making three million dollars a year. Him and Carmelo Anthony should get together and just laugh at people. He is the NHL's Carmelo for sure. hasn't been effective

for several seasons but still gets a lot of money and people still care about him has Carmelo Anthony ever had a season as good as FanX 43 goal season he was pretty damn good

with the Nuggets yeah yeah when he was a star in Denver it's just it's just like him and Dwight Howard like just for the longest time

everyone was like here it comes here it comes and it never came just you wait it's gonna be the year yeah nope

you know whose year it is who John Gibson Oh, yeah? Wow. John Gibson. That's a contract. For the next eight years after this coming season

will make $6.4 million. His extension, it's the Carey Price treatment, does not kick in until the end of the coming season. Oh, no. I didn't know that. Yeah. When I saw that. Oh, no.

I think it's an overlooked detail. Because he will make, this year, $2.3 million, and he'll be a steal at that. His numbers are great. Well. they're good yes they're pretty good

there's a giant if what's the giant if he has played 60 plus games two seasons in a row well yeah but

as friend of the show Jen Neal pointed out noted Ducks fan dude he's made of like toothpicks and like a bunch of

lint from your dryer like this guy he's been injured man he has you better be damn sure he doesn't get injured.

He has Buffalo Sabre great Ryan Miller backing him up who's also still making money. Oh my god. 38 year old Ryan Miller.

He deserves to be. For sure. For sure. This deal along with the Carey Price deal which we've seen has all

the potential in the world to go so wrong. So wrong. Dude. It's not the amount of money. It's the term.

You know what would have been a great contract uh sans injuries and a lot of people won't admit this because they just don't want to give up on the joke but let's let's face it if he stays anyway yada yada yada rick di pietro go look at some of the numbers rick di pietro put up he wasn't that bad no if he wasn't hurt and then he just kept getting hurt in that contract that 15 year like god no wonder we have lockouts 15 year contract

hey what's the worst that could happen well what happens he got hurt if Gibson plays like he did last year that's absolutely a steal that's a complete steal well I mean 2.3 million dollars is a steal 6.4 I would argue is fair market value

fair market value is a steal you know what I mean his save percentage last year was quite high and it's funny I was looking at because I've been filling in for Elliot Price on the fan morning show. Oh, yeah, we haven't talked about that. And I was talking about how I felt like the Gibson deal

should make Leaf fans feel pretty good about the Freddie deal. And the Freddie deal is good for a couple reasons. First off, Freddie's numbers are always worse than they should be because he starts slow. I mean, or maybe they are what they should be. I'd say they are what they are. But they are what they are. They are what we thought they were.

Gibson is, by all accounts, and by all metrics, I think, has performed better. He just has. And what's interesting is the Ducks went from 21st in the NHL in shots against per game. That's 16-17. To last year, being 6th. The Leafs, both years, finished 4th in shots against per game. The highest. Like, 4th highest.

So this is bad. So the Ducks were a very good defensive team. And all of a sudden became a not very good defensive team. And his save percentage obviously went up. Under Carlisle? Never. Yeah, I know. 9.26 save percentage.

That's great. But what happens? What happens? And I think what they did here was they tried to keep the number down because they've got some big fat contracts, including that Corey Perry anchor. Unless he comes back. They had to keep that number down. But to do that, you've got to sign a longer deal.

do you think they look at it as okay 8 years from now we can figure out a way to get out of this contract I think 4 years from now

they probably can if they retain if he's taking a step back then he's a good backup somewhere he's only 25 let's say he can be in his prime

for 6 years even 5 years you get 5 years out of an 8 year deal that's not bad 5 is I'd argue even that's optimistic

and by 25 he's only 30 you expect him to fall on the map by 30 But Gibson's not 30. He's 25 now. No, he's 25. So if you get five years out of him, he's still only 30.

They're arguing, though, that the argument now is that... Yeah, but what if he's 30 and busted? Yeah, the argument now is that... Well, and that's really, as my therapist would call it, that's an anxious thought. Yeah, I don't think... You don't know. Yeah, and your expectation isn't for an athlete to break down at 30.

I think that's ridiculous. It is. The expectation is also right now, from the numbers that we're seeing, goalies do peak in their early to mid-20s. Like, we do know by 24, 25, 26 what you are. Gibson's pretty good what you are. And I don't hate the contract. I just think it's the one thing that always kills you.

It's never the dollar amount. It's always, always, always that term. Dave Bolin doesn't seem that bad if Dave Bolin signs a $5 million per year. Even if Dave Bolin signs a two-year contract. Three-year. Three-year like a hot butt. Five years of Dave Bolin at $5.25 million. That's a little much.

That's a lot That's a lot I'm trying to find We are where it all started Dave Clarkson I'm trying to find All the Gibson injuries I thought hockey reference had it

Let me see It Look He's a great goalie That's a lot of term And a lot of money I'm fine with the money Like Adam

Yeah I think 6 point What is it 6.4 I think it's pretty solid 6.4 is good for a great starting goalie who's putting up a 9-26

on he played 60 games last year okay okay I don't know I'm skeptical I'm skeptical

but what else is new you were skeptical of Freddie too I was and I had every right to be and I have every right to be with this

because we've already seen this not work well at least it's not going well for the whole price deal. Everyone expects him to bounce back, and I think Price has earned that for sure.

But with the Leafs, they had acquired 1A goalies from California teams as RFAs. Freddie was the third time they had done that. And the previous two were Toskala and Bernier. So forgive me for being a little bit concerned about Freddie Anderson. And to say that we can be sold on Freddie Anderson yet,

I think there were I'm sold I think there were stretches last year where he was a Vesna candidate goalie but I also and stretches where

he was pretty bad pretty bad so if he can iron that out just be a little more consistent I think Freddie Anderson is a steal

I think he's a steal anyway getting off of John Gibson for a little bit and with the whole Freddie sucking at the beginning

of the season thing I have this theory that I don't know if we've talked about on the show that the Leafs are going to start bad We talked about that personally

But we have not talked about that on the show And I also agree You were with me before we even talked about it I think they're going to start bad And people are going to panic And I'm going to tell myself that I'm not going to panic But I'm going to end up panicking But it's going to end up alright

Listen, first of all The given is Freddie stinks every October Hopefully he doesn't The year they made the playoffs, he won two games in October The first year they were horrendous he was their worst player

like he was so bad and Mike Babcock had to get up and go no Freddie's our guy yeah and he's our guy and you know Babcock has really thrown a few

Hail Marys in his short time as Leafs coach that was one of them that was one of them and he's done alright with most of them believe it or not

but yeah Freddie's bad in October typically we don't know if that's going to happen there's been such a personnel

turnover that chemistry might be an issue The penalty kill personnel is totally different. The power play personnel is totally different. Their formations may be going to have to change. There's a lot of change with the Leafs. Remember how last year during preseason,

and I don't expect you to remember this, because especially if you're not a Leafs fan, you for sure won't remember this, but a lot of the players, a lot of the stars, didn't play very much. They played a lot of the Marlies guys because they didn't want to work these guys out too hard because it was like, okay, let's save him for the season.

We know who's on this team. They played a few games at Ricoh where you're like, Patrick Marleau should not be here. Yeah, yeah, like why is he playing? This year I think is going to be very different. I think they're going to have to really iron those things out in preseason to avoid exactly what we're talking about. Literally, like the first, I don't know,

they usually play I think nine preseason games, which is far too much. That's stupid. But let's say the first four games should be entirely Marlies and Growlers, have one, like, mixed game and then have your final three or four games just be your NHL lineup. You know, and let the backup goalie situation

is going to have to figure itself out in preseason, maybe. You don't need to play Freddie in those games. You know where he's at. Right. But for, like, I'm very interested to see how the power play and penalty kill rolls in preseason, which isn't the greatest indicator of things, but if it's super dominant or completely hopeless...

There might be some indicators. Might be some indicators. There's a reason they play the games. I mean, it could be even better. They'll have an actual center taking face-offs on the penalty kill. That sounds interesting. That sounds like a neat idea to try. But, like, JBR won't be there on the power play.

Do you think Tavares is going to play penalty kill? I don't know. Per Lindholm? Maybe if he makes the team? like remember when Miro Alton fourth line center like I know Babcock

has already said Lindholm's gonna be there but like we don't know we don't know how he's gonna be in North American ice remember Petri Conciola yeah

no you probably don't oh apparently you do that's why I would PTO Nick Shore in a hurry I actually think Nick Shore is the guy that I'm surprised

Nick Shore huh 25 25 yeah and they have Josh Joris but I I think Nick Shore I know everybody

in the analytics community really loves him I tend to agree I think he's a pretty good player There's a Tyler Ennis Yeah but he doesn't play center very well For some reason he got labeled with the center But he's never really played center effectively

He was really a winger So I think Yeah you do have Tyler Ennis I think they try JT I think they try him at PK And you tell him don't you dare Don't you dare block a shot Don't you dare block a shot before game one

You're benched If you block a shot which being a superstar player you go out and block a shot for a shift and now you don't have to play the rest of the preseason congrats but no I think the Leafs are going to stumble out of the gate they'll recover in November

and I don't know where they'll end the season but they're going to stumble out of the gate do you have any of the same line combinations as last season well not to start because we know that's the plan so far

well see at the end of last season at the end of the playoffs because Kadri decided to be a knucklehead they had I want to say a fourth line of Janssen Kadri

Kapanen which I think they might actually try as their third unit okay other than that no they're not going to start that way

okay so I could definitely see I mean I think certain pairings will stay together like I see Nylander Matthews probably sticking together although I would

really love to see oh yes I would love to see Marner Matthews but it looks like Marner's going to play with Tavares yeah

And, yeah, I mean, I think that it's a full blender. With Hyman, Taveras, Marner. Babcock has already said that he pictures the top six being Marleau, Matthews, Nylander, Hyman, Taveras, Marner. I wonder throughout the season, too, if Andreas Janssen, I feel like, is a guy that eventually can and should take over for Patrick Marleau on that wing with Matthews. And that's not to denigrate Patrick Marleau, but I really feel like Andreas Janssen's going to have to earn it because that's what Mike Babcock does. Fine.

He's going to make his money on special teams. He might be a guy where you don't put him on the first line, you don't wear him out in the same way that you sort of did with Zach Hyman. Hyman had to play on the—well, had to play, like he was forced. He played on the first line, and then you made him play all these PK minutes. He basically played every single penalty. And he would often, I think more often than not actually, play more time than Matthews.

Janssen is a good 5-on-5 player. He's a good penalty killer. But I think where he's really going to make his money is on the power play. I noticed something when I went back and watched Janssen's highlights, and I didn't want to say it because it sounded silly. And then I see Gus Katsaros, friend of the show, and noted hockey mind go,

I wonder if Janssen helps fill the JVR void on the power play. Because he's not the same size, but he's a goal suck. He's a front of the net banging kind of guy. He's going to make his money

on the power play, so don't completely wear him out. You know what I mean? Are we hoping no matter how this upcoming season ends that Patrick Marleau

develops a skin disease at the end of it. Wow! And that he ends up on an island. So we have more money come next offseason. He scored 27 goals last year.

But how much do we expect that to continue? That's what everyone says every year about Patrick Marleau. To Adam's point about Janssen replacing him on the line. Do we hope that that's

what happens at the start He's heading into a contract year again The exact reason that Steve said Andreas Janssen will make his money on the special teams I think that's where Patrick Marleau makes his money Andreas Janssen's like what? 22? 3

He's got energy Patrick Marleau's 38,000 years old He was born in the Cretaceous period But he's a freak Some people are just freaks But why test the freak? You know what I'm saying? Why?

Like he was so good for the Leafs last year He really was Why not dial back his minutes Five on five and let him rack up those goals On the power play Put him with Kadri He did play well with Kadri And that's a good point

I like that point And the great thing is So you got these Franken lines that Babcock made up And then last year You have all these lines you can go back to That did so well Hyman Matthews Nylander was obviously great Marlo Cadry

Marner Mark Hadmar Mark Hadmar and then who does that leave Tavares with well I don't think you don't really want to get Tavares I don't think Mark Hadmar

ever exists ever no no you're right you're probably right unless there's like injuries although Tavares with Kapanen

and and Janssen would be kind of cool too I'm very excited if that's the third line with Cadry and Janssen and Kapanen

I think that's a phenomenal phenomenal third line they have lots of options I don't even remember with the original conversation is Patrick Marleau

on the team to start the 2019 season no I don't think that was ever the plan either yeah

I'm kind of with you there I don't think that was ever I think his contract ends up in Arizona I think they

gave him that year so that he could because he makes doesn't he make a pretty significant chunk of that on July 1st

yeah so he gets his signing bonus money and then he retires he's paid very little of his money

I don't know exactly how that'll work well you trade him to Arizona for a player that makes the same amount

of money that Arizona will have to pay. He's still such a good player. That's so ridiculous that you have a team in the league where you can dump caps. Totally.

Cap hits. Game genie. Don't worry. Game genie league. They'll try to ruin that in the lockout, the next lockout. I think it is possible

that he's on the team. He's got to score at that same rate or higher. He's got to get the 25 goals. I think he's got to get another 20 assists.

What did he have, 18 last year? This season. This season, this coming season. Yeah. And he's going to also want to, right? He may just be tired after that.

His numbers, I think, kind of sucked because that... Okay, before the Mark Hadmar line, which was disgusting, it was the Marlo Kadri Komarov line, which just stunk. It was not a good line. So I'm weary of Marlo and like, oh, we're going to have him on a shutdown line. No, you're the Leafs. You have three lines just full of murderers,

and you have a fourth line that you use for funsies. that's your thing that's your identity you're oh we send this line out no no no you're the team

that other teams try to shut down yeah you're no longer the team that that goes and shuts the lines down yeah no

you're the maniacs the way you shut another team's line down is you keep the puck yeah you're the axe wielding maniacs the whole

the whole third line shut down bullshit no that's done so if you have them on just your third offensive unit

and that's what we call it yeah great Last season, Patrick Marleau scored 27 goals and had 20 assists. What did he have the season before? 27 goals and 19 assists. His past three seasons, 48 points, 46, 47. And this coming season... He's got to do the same thing.

He's got to do the same thing. If he's playing with Matthews, he will. We have every reason to think he will. On September 15th, he turns 39. That's a good reason to feel like he won't. And he was great in the playoffs. Didn't he have two two-goal games? Yep.

And one of them was game seven? He was great. He was great, man. Man, I was a huge fan, and I think it was a great pickup. Even if you get a good season and a half out of him, it was worth it. I still think he's going to be great this year. And I think the players that he's playing with will dictate that, right? If he was on Detroit, I'd be like, well...

But with Toronto, it's like there's... But with Toronto, it's more like he's got... It doesn't matter what center he plays with. He's playing with either... Both the top two centers are number one guys, and the other guys are number two. I think Babcock is me with a menu at a restaurant I love. You know?

I can't possibly make the wrong decision, but it's going to take me forever anyway. How will I make the rightest move? Yes! How will I make the... What is the most delicious? I'd take forever at a restaurant. Yeah, anyway.

That's why I'm afraid to ask for my food. I think that's it for us today. We won't do the press conference. Should we do the press conference? You want a press conference? There's no press conference. Can you take me a second? Press conference.

We'll take Jesse's check. That ain't a press conference. That ain't a press conference. If you can Eric Stahl for a bit. Maybe if you Mark Stahl or Jordan Stahl. I'll Stahl. I'm offended. I found the thread.

There are too many Stahl brothers, I just decided. There are. I'm not going to ask that one. Imagine how competitive that family is at mini-golf. Like, think about that for a second, you know? It always ends in a fight. Yeah. The Buffalo Sabres.

The Buffalo Sabres. This is a very simple question. It says, the Buffalo Sabres, colon, not total trash this season? No, they're not. No, I don't think they are. Hey! They had a great off-season. Good job, guys.

Especially that Jeff Skinner deal. They traded a third-round draft pick, who admittedly is a pretty good prospect, and then a couple of like what are they the first and the second or something it was Cliff Poo who's the third round pick

wasn't it Cliff Poo no it was Cliff Poo and three draft picks a second, third, and sixth so you drafted so you traded two thirds a second

and a sixth come on and a couple of those picks the third and the sixth I believe are in 2020 they're two years away oh

now so that player is two years away from being four years away a lot of people dumped on that and no that's not great return for Jeff Skinner However, did Jeff Skinner not deny trades to other teams? Because I believe that was the case.

He had to waive his no-trade clause to go to Buffalo. Which, by the way, he waived his no-trade clause to go to Buffalo. They probably said Jack Eichelman. And he's probably like, okay. If you're a forward, why not go to Buffalo? Why wouldn't you go to Buffalo? Doesn't make any sense not to. Yeah.

If you're a defender, you're like, oh, I got to do this all myself. I wonder if he's on the last year of his deal, too. But, I mean, wouldn't you want to be paired with Rasmus Dahlien? That could be fun. Yeah. Sabres are going to be fun next year. I don't know if they're going to make the playoffs, but they're going to be fun.

They're not going to be total trash. I have a question. Okay, Skidder's 26. He makes 5-7-2-5, and he's on the last year of his deal, and they're going to put him with Jack Eichel. That's why he accepted that trade. That's a team that, like, the locker room is completely different, which I think is exactly what they needed.

Yeah. Question for Adam Wild. Uh-oh. It's from Kinebox. Says Adam. And here's a mean question. What did you think of the Jack's Pancake Factory? Oh, in Barry?

In Barry. Oh, my God. Did somebody see me there? What did you get? And what brought you to Barry? Somebody spotted you in Barry. Wow, that's wild. It is.

I went and visited my dad and stepmom with my wife. Aw, you say wife now. Yeah, I do. I've got this ring, you see. and I we're moving this week so I was going to go to Collingwood to see them where they live

but I said can you meet us halfway and that's what brought us there it was my dad that found the place and we very much enjoyed it I got eggs and I got a blueberry pancake too because I was like I haven't had a pancake in months I want to try a pancake I assume this place is like a famous place

no it's brand new brand new strip mall and berry berries growing so fast It looks completely different from even when I worked there about 10 years ago. But yeah, so that's why I was there. Nice.

I'm surprised you didn't say hi. You should have said hi. Yeah. I didn't mean to stop the whole show for that. That's okay. No, that's okay. No, you can't talk about that?

Not yet. No? Okay. Next week. Oh, not yet. Next week. Next week. Okay, fair enough.

Someone wants to wish Charlie a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Chuckles. Thank you. He's eight years old, which means he's 50-something. Yeah. And is very much getting into the get-off-my-lawn years.

He's healthy, though. We've been feeding him real good food. He had a bald patch on his ass. He had this gross skin. I don't know how well he was taken care of, but anyway, his hair's grown and thicker. I'm pumped that you told me that. He's in his best shape of his career.

I needed to know that. Bald patch on his ass. Could he play for the Chinese Olympic team with Wayne Gretzky? No, he couldn't. Yeah, it could be his winger. Is this a question? Depends. Is he a right-handed shot or a left?

Is this a question, Jesse, that you're laughing at? No, you. Oh, you were like delayed on that. Yeah, I was reading and then I was like, oh, you just said that. You see? Final question. Do butterflies get humans in their stomach? That's a pretty good one.

Junkie Chow, what's up? August 8th, everyone. August 8th. bye see you next week we don't know what day follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y l d e and at jesse blake the steve dangle podcast brought to you by panago pizza order at panago.com and stuff your face with deliciousness